February 22, 2025 • 25 mins
Hi Guys, welcome back to TV Reload. Thank you for clicking or downloading on today’s episode with Kent one of this weeks eliminated Australian Survivor players.
The popular reality show is back on Network Ten and there has already been a few decent twists and turns which has been interesting to watch unfold
Braisn vs Brawn II is a return to this popular 'survivor theme' and what a first week we had served up by the team at Endemol Shine Australia. I think there has been some really cool set ups with some characters and I am already quite invested in dynamics on both teams.
This week we saw Candy, Indy and Kent eliminated at the first three tribal councils and we are lucky to unpack the week with Kent today.
- Kent will talk about how he was cast after 10 years of applying and what nearly saw him say no to accepting a spot on the series
- Kent will share what he thinks about the first three eliminations and what he expects to happen in the aftermath of his exit..
- I find out about his journey on the show and what it has been like watching his personality from a viewers point of view.
- You will get everything from burning max’s hat, what he really thought of Myles and why it looks months to recover from the experience.
There is so much to talk about with so many inside revelations. So sit back and relax as we unpack the wonderful world of Australian Survivor. Which is back this week on Sunday night.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
It's in the news today, but it was actually on
TV Reload, the podcast last week that lif.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Hey guys, welcome back to TV Reload. I want to
thank you for clicking and downloading on today's episode with Kent,
one of this week's eliminated Australian Survivor players. The popular
reality show is back on Network ten and there's already
been a few decent twists and turns which has been
really interesting to watch unfold. Brains Versus Brown two is
a return to this popular Survivor theme and what a
(00:26):
first week we had served up by the team at
Endemols Shine Australia. I think there has been some really
cool setups with some of the characters and I'm already
quite invested in the dynamics on both teams. This week
we saw Candy, Indy and Kent eliminated in the first
tribal councils and we are lucky enough to unpack the
first week with Kent. Today. Kent will talk about how
(00:46):
he was cast after ten years of applying and what
nearly saw him say no to accepting a spot in
this series. Kent will share what he thinks about the
first three eliminations and what he expects to happen in
the aftermath of his exit. I find out about his
journey on the show and what it has been like
watching his personality from a viewer's point of view. You
(01:07):
will get everything from burning maxis hat, what he really
thinks of Miles, and why it took months to recover
from this experience. There is so much to talk about,
with so many inside revelations, So guys, sit back and
relax as we unpack the wonderful world of a Strand Survivor,
which is back this week on Sunday Night. This is
very exciting because from the minute I watched the first episode,
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I'd heard that there was someone in this series that
had applied for many had been applying for many years.
I think what I want to really talk to you about, though,
is this ongoing debate about do you think being a
schooled fan of the show helps you in reality?
Speaker 1 (01:45):
Oh? Look, as much as I am a super fan,
like I've loved the show as everybody has listened and
heard forever since its inception, but I'm not one of
those people like Miles who can be like season two,
episode six, this person and played this and they should
have done that and that's not how my brain works. Sadly,
my brand's pretty good, but it's not that good. That's
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one area where I lack, but I'm better in other areas.
So I think it's certainly something like Master has the
ability to kind of do the numbers and strategize and everything.
That's never been me. For me, it was my Waimea Bay,
my Mount Everest. It was the peak that was unachievable
that no one has climbed before.
Speaker 3 (02:25):
That's what it was for me.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
It was never about winning, it was never about it
was just achieving the goal, the dream.
Speaker 3 (02:32):
That's what it was all about for me.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
You like the rich people from Jurassic Park three where
they were like, we've got so much money we can
pay to go to the island.
Speaker 3 (02:40):
The money inside of it, you know.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
I answered one question which was, hey, Kent, are you
a multimillionaire? And I went, yeah, I'm a multimillionaire, but
I'm not Jeanine Ellis. But all you got was that
I'm a multimillionaire, and then they played that a thousand times.
And I don't want to be defined by the guy
that was cast that has a bit of money. I
would love to have just been seen as the entrepre
I know, the money side of it is irrelevant.
Speaker 3 (03:03):
In my game and who I am as a person.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
Sure that gives me some great stuff, like I get
to do cool stuff snowboarding and surfing and all that
kind of stuff.
Speaker 3 (03:10):
But yeah, it was a goal. And I'm one of
those people in life that.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
I will push and push and push and persist and persist.
And when I met my wife, I told her about
the show. My kids that are twenty eight and twenty
six have known pretty much their whole existence about Survivor,
and I told them that I'm going to be on
one day and lo and behold, guess what I did it.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
You know, there's this debate about reality TV. Let's go
with this about reality TV, where it's a really good
opportunity to look in and see who you really are
because we in the real world, we don't get it
played back and we have no idea about how people
see us. Do you think this is an accurate portrayal
of you? Do you think you might have seen something
about yourself that you thought, hang on a zech, that's
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not who I am. You know, I didn't realize that's
how I came across oh well.
Speaker 1 (03:52):
Interestingly, I was auditioned a couple of years ago as
a villain.
Speaker 3 (03:56):
They ran and said, hey, can we want to audition
it as a villain.
Speaker 1 (03:58):
And then I went, amazing a villain, but I'll try,
and they went, hey, You're not the villain, sorry, lo
and Behold. I ended up being quite villainous. But as
to who you see, honestly, don't think you know. I
have a bad bone in my body. I'm incredibly kind,
I'm full of love.
Speaker 3 (04:14):
Hopefully in the.
Speaker 1 (04:15):
In the pre show videos, you'll see me talking about
how I just want to come in there and I
want to hug Miles and hold him and protect him
because I'm worried about him. I want to be the
father figure. And then Lo and Behold. I get in there,
and night one, Miles tells me I'm the first to
go on the chopping block. Day two, he tells everybody
that I found an idol. I'm like, Okay, this journey
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is going to be a quick one.
Speaker 3 (04:36):
Better make an impact. I'm gonna I'm gonna burn Max's hat.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
Because Max had done three things to me in the
space of about ten minutes.
Speaker 3 (04:45):
I was like, Max, who's here right by the way.
He's just turned up. We're going hat shopping today, Max.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
Get My name's Ben, Welcome to the podcast. I just
wishit get a So I watched the first episode without
my partner and I said to him, there's a guy
that's in this series. When you first look at him,
you might not think he's the hottest person in the world,
but by the time you finished the episode, you'll be obsessed.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
I agree, I am the most heterosexual man on the planet.
Speaker 3 (05:12):
But I was like, my god, how good looking.
Speaker 1 (05:15):
We are gonna we are going to launch you through this,
And I said all along, he's gonna love it when
I burn his hat because he's going to be burnts down,
our main character. And you're going to get some modeling
giggs Atus because he's honestly, you're one of the best
looking dudes.
Speaker 3 (05:27):
Look at him. He's a good looking He's a good
looking guy. Thank you. It means a lot.
Speaker 2 (05:33):
We're gonna have to pick all of that up and
move it to the side.
Speaker 3 (05:36):
I'll see you in a minute.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
Lovely to meet you. So you know, Ken, I just
want to talk to you a little bit more about
just that reflection of yourself. Did watching this show make
you think about who you are as a person. Do
you think watching this will make you change any of
your behavior?
Speaker 1 (05:52):
Look, everything in Survivor is incredibly amplified. Can's a mad
man running around with the magette? No canse the guy
that has the one machete that we have that's been
nominated to chop bamboo, chop down palm frongs.
Speaker 3 (06:06):
That was it. But I'm a crazy man. Man.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
Well, you did say quite a few cutting comments. I mean,
some villainous, hilarious one line, but you did say those
things though.
Speaker 1 (06:16):
Yeah, when it comes to me, maybe the way I
kind of was like, I'm the I'm the praying mantis.
I'm going to I'm going to eat Miles alive. And
that's that's not my real world. You know.
Speaker 3 (06:26):
As I said, I went in there wanting.
Speaker 1 (06:28):
To protect I want I wanted to protect Myles, Sorry,
I wanted to I wanted to.
Speaker 3 (06:32):
Protect him and nurture him and make sure he wasn't
the first vote.
Speaker 1 (06:35):
But what happens in this game is that everything just
gets turned on its head. I went in there, first
of all, incredibly vulnerable. My wife was very sick. Just
as I'd found out I was going on the show.
If she was ill, I didn't want to leave her.
It was my it was my my dream to be
on Survivor. And then also my wife's incredibly ill, so
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I was like So I was in tears all the
way to the airport. Night when I was prying On's shoulder,
I had hurt my back really badly.
Speaker 3 (07:03):
I tore my seratus posteria. So I was in incredible pain.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
I couldn't sleep, and I can tell you I literally
was losing my mind out there.
Speaker 3 (07:12):
So what you saw on the island was not a
true reflection of who I am.
Speaker 1 (07:17):
Maybe certainly there's elements of it, but they were amplified
based on the person that I became.
Speaker 3 (07:24):
I will say, and.
Speaker 1 (07:24):
When Rich said something's going on with Kant, I think
the appropriate words were something wasn't quite right with me.
Speaker 3 (07:30):
And it took me about a month to get quite right.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
And I've never had any sort of mental health issues
my entire life. But I came out a very fragile
human being. And that's what I've learned from I guess
from this is is that I'm far more fragile than
what I ever realized.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
I think it's important to ask how the health of
your wife is at the moment, if you don't mind
sharing about that, how is she?
Speaker 3 (07:55):
Yeah, this is difficult to talk about.
Speaker 1 (07:58):
I came great joy that I rang her and said
I'm out, and I came home to honestly a lot
of grief. We then spent the next eight weeks traveling
around Europe and had a great time. But it's been
a battle. I abandoned her in the biggest time of
need ever in her existence, and her husband.
Speaker 3 (08:18):
Got went sea. I'm going to fulfill my dream.
Speaker 1 (08:20):
Hence the overwhelmingness that hit me of all of it,
it was, Yeah, it was a lot.
Speaker 2 (08:26):
I think sometimes when we make these decisions, you know, wrong,
all right, they've been made and you have to go okay,
that's what it is, and you have to move on.
In a way, I think maybe the universe wanted you home,
and maybe the universe made that decision for you. And
I'm not completely one of those people that believes that,
but I do think sometimes it's important for us to
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let the path guide us, and you know, maybe this
was not your time. Also, maybe burning Max's hat will
allow you to be back for heroes versus villains too,
and the story may continue because there is something I
can say to you, Ken about your time on this show.
When you look at the people talking about the first
three episodes, they are talking about you. You made an impact.
Speaker 1 (09:10):
I left because I made it happen. I knew when
I burnt the hat there.
Speaker 3 (09:15):
Was never an intention of ever announcing it the tribal council.
Why would you ever do that. It's like the stupidest
move ever. Hey, guys, here's here's the machete.
Speaker 1 (09:23):
You put it to my throat. I was ready to go.
I knew it would kill me, but I needed to go.
And the second I walked.
Speaker 3 (09:31):
Out, I was like, okay, guys, yep, I'm happy to go.
This is what I haven't told you.
Speaker 1 (09:34):
My wife's a time sick and I've ticked the box
and I have.
Speaker 3 (09:37):
To get it out of here. Thank you so much.
Speaker 1 (09:40):
I sent David and phoebea message this morning and thanking
them so much for giving me the opportunity and for
the journey. And I said, never again, never again. But
you know what it's like, it's in the blood.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
Yeah, look, reality, Clev's a little bit like Craig Cocaine.
Let people get it and they're addicted, you know, And
I'll destroy their lives until they get it again.
Speaker 3 (09:58):
Yeah, look for me, for me.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
Yeah, if there was an opportunity again and they'd be
my wife would have to be well, and I would
love the opportunity, and I would play a totally different game.
Speaker 3 (10:08):
I wouldn't.
Speaker 1 (10:09):
I wouldn't hang out of a bus and destroy my
back and going injured and be in pain and not
sleep for six days. And you know, with the correct surroundings,
it would be a total And if I was on
the right tribe, I should have been. Even though I
am a little bit of a brain.
Speaker 3 (10:27):
I belonged. I belonged on the other tribe just.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
To get some of your hot takes on the show
now because you can step back and be a bit
of a viewer, but you also were there. I thought
it would interesting to ask you about some of the
other things that had happened. I really enjoyed the concept
of the White Witch, regardless as to you know who
our white witch is. I liked the idea of that.
Speaker 3 (10:47):
And the coven, I mean the Covenants.
Speaker 1 (10:48):
I guess it's a cool thing, you know, the Victoria
Bidders and the Covenants.
Speaker 3 (10:52):
Let's put a name to something they can call it
whatever they want.
Speaker 1 (10:55):
It was pretty visible day one that they were going
to sort of do what they did quite often the case.
I'm looking forward to them slowly eating each other alive,
which I'm sure is inevitable. That's what's going to happen.
Someone's going to flip. That's the beauty of this game,
and it's so exciting to watch. I've caught up with
so many people from the show. Max is here right now,
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Laura and myself, Morgan, Kate, and Noonan.
Speaker 3 (11:21):
I've caught up with.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
Miles, I've caught up with Kursten. We've all gone out
for dinners. And Laura in particularly I found lovely. Yeah,
she was great, although she was pretty cut throat on
me last night, and I, as I said in the
show last night, you know I trust you.
Speaker 3 (11:35):
Yeah she lied to my face, but yeah, she's a
good white witch.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
Well that's the nature of these sorts of shows. So like,
if you to play these games, well, you want to
be able to create these TV moments, and this particular
show celebrates people who lie, and you know a lie,
well that's a part of it.
Speaker 3 (11:51):
You watch.
Speaker 1 (11:51):
Aj Aj is going to be I think he's going
to be good to watch.
Speaker 3 (11:55):
I don't have the benefit of kind of knowing what's.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
Going to happen, but I feel that, Yeah, Aj came
out last night, not out of the closet, he came out,
and he's going to rise.
Speaker 3 (12:07):
I can see that.
Speaker 2 (12:08):
Looking at some of the other people that left this
show this week, what did you think of the first boot?
So you've got Candy that's coming out of this show first,
did you think that was the right decision there?
Speaker 1 (12:17):
Well, yeah, lookh Nash walking out one of the boldest,
fastest finding ever idols, wearing it into you know, that
was a pretty bold statement.
Speaker 3 (12:26):
He was probably always going to.
Speaker 1 (12:28):
Play it, and it's always sad to see somebody go,
you know, it's devastating for anybody.
Speaker 3 (12:34):
She was just a byproduct of Nash playing.
Speaker 1 (12:37):
His idol, and sadly she was seen as kind of
the weakest link. I think, probably because she was just
one of the little girls and Kate and her. But
you'll find, you know, people like Kate, her Zara, they
thrive in the challenges where they can hang off poles
and you know, support their own body weight and all
those kinds of things. She would have excelled in those things,
or she had to climb through ropes and everything.
Speaker 3 (12:57):
It was sad to see her go, It really was.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
And Nash has made some pretty bold booths. I mean,
I would never have found that idol and want it
around my neck and carry it on like he did.
Like I thought that was a choice. That's a real
decision in your gameplay. Did you think that? Do you
think that's going to bite him in the ass, because
what do you think about some of Nash's decisions? And
if he didn't have that idol, maybe should he be
the one to go home first.
Speaker 3 (13:19):
I don't know about him needing to be the one
to go home first.
Speaker 1 (13:22):
I certainly would wouldn't ever tell anybody if I found
an idol, and PAULI did it last night. I think
it's always good to keep these things because long and behold,
you know, and if I tell you, then you'll know.
Speaker 3 (13:34):
Chinese whispers and before you know it, it's everywhere.
Speaker 1 (13:36):
So I think, really it's best to always keep those
things to yourself unless there's one particular person that you
think you can really can fight and you can use
it together.
Speaker 3 (13:46):
But we've seen that it can implode, explode. You just
never know. It's all about trust and who you can
and who you can't. But ultimately, at the end of
the day, everyone always gets stabbed in the back, don't they.
Speaker 2 (13:58):
Is an interesting thing that you've brought up right out,
because like trust in episode two could have been the
name of the episode, because what we saw unravel with
Indy's decisions seemed to be about misguided trust. You know,
she really could have stayed with her alliance but chose
to step out of it. It begs me to ask
the question as to whether or not she should have
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just bit her tongue, you know, and waited, because it
makes you wonder whether or not in the game of
survivor do you play in the moment or are you
playing three steps down the line? Because what's going to
get you to the end?
Speaker 3 (14:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (14:30):
Look, certainly, if she hadn't have done what she did,
Miles would have gone home. That was clear, and then
I would have I would have got what I wanted.
On the back of Miles telling you when I had
an idol and telling me I was the first to go.
I had blinkers on for him, which was probably a
little bit silly of me.
Speaker 3 (14:47):
But your Indy, Indy imploded, But I understand it until
until you've played it.
Speaker 1 (14:53):
It's so there's just so much going on, and you know,
it's always talked about in suburb at the Paranoid. When
Myles told me, you know, I was actually surprisingly incredibly
calm when.
Speaker 3 (15:05):
He said my name. But then about an hour later
it kicked in. I was like, ah, I'll it eats
your live. It really does. And then you take away
the food and you.
Speaker 1 (15:14):
Take away the sleep, and all of a sudden it's like,
oh my god, can I make a decision?
Speaker 3 (15:20):
This is the correct one?
Speaker 1 (15:21):
And then you think you have, and then someone tells
somebody else and then all of a sudden, the whole
thing flips on his head. It's like what she said
that he said that, you know, and then all of
a sudden, the whole thing flips.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
That's what makes this game so exciting. It's also happening
so fast in real time, so it's also happening fast
for the viewer, but in real time it's a lot slower.
It's interesting with your analogy about the dragon or the
poison slowly seeping in. I mean that really permeates more
when you're in real time, because with all that time
in your head and in your mind you're not making
decisions as fast as they look on the show. Do
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you think that in some ways you were second guessing
some of the decisions that you were making.
Speaker 1 (15:55):
Oh, in hindsight, probably the kmmodo dragon bit himself and
was slowly, slowly kind of eating me alive.
Speaker 3 (16:03):
Yeah, there's a lot of things that you know in hindsight.
Speaker 1 (16:06):
And it's again when you watch, When you watch the
show and you see what was happening in those conversations
that were twenty feet away, thirty away, thirty feet away, whatever,
then you kind of then you get the true picture
what you think is your reality.
Speaker 3 (16:21):
And everyone's telling you, yes, don't trust me data, don't worry.
If something's fine.
Speaker 1 (16:25):
It's again, you can you can be the only looking
you know one hundred and eighty degrees. You can have
people right behind you that are sticking the knife in
your back and you just can't.
Speaker 3 (16:34):
See it, you can't feel it.
Speaker 1 (16:36):
You need to be incredibly intuitive, and a few days
in the ability to do that bades pretty quickly, and
the people that rise at the top of the people
that capable of probably going in with the strategy and
being able to maintain that discipline, that state Miles did
a great job. I'm just going to I'm just going
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to play it, mister cool and sat there and just
I mean, credit to the guy. You didn't see me.
I was brutal on him. I stood in front of him,
said I accused him of stealing the hat, in front
of everyone. I know what you're doing. You told everyone
I found an idol. You told me not one. I
was full on with him.
Speaker 3 (17:12):
That's probably why they cut so you didn't see it.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
I was going to say, Miles is an interesting character, though,
how do I describe this for the viewers perspective? He
sort of is an uncomfortable person sometimes, like, but is
he using that tactic of being uncomfortable in game play?
Speaker 1 (17:27):
Like?
Speaker 2 (17:27):
I could almost imagine Miles could be a completely different
person out of this game.
Speaker 3 (17:31):
No, I've met Miles out of the game.
Speaker 1 (17:32):
We've had beers together, and Miles is the same outside
as he is inside. Miles love him. We've been messaging
each other this morning and he is full on. And
I was rapped that actually, Klin, by the way you
saw it wasn't just me going hey, mate, show some
emotional intelligence. Stopped doing this as he was twenty four
seven three sixty five.
Speaker 3 (17:53):
Bang bang bang bang bang bang bang, telling people that
they didn't belong there. What are we even doing here? Like,
you're not a brain, I'm the brain.
Speaker 1 (18:00):
If this is someone's journey, man, don't say that kind
of stuff.
Speaker 3 (18:03):
And he's brilliant.
Speaker 1 (18:04):
His brain is just the intellect in that guy's the
way that his brain thinks.
Speaker 3 (18:10):
It's manic, it's on overdrive.
Speaker 1 (18:13):
It's almost like it comes out without any thought, and
then he regrets it. And that's why he kind of said,
I need to kind of a credit to the guy
where he went himself back that day and he did
him Actually, really, is it all exploded around him to
him sitting there changed it?
Speaker 3 (18:31):
Maybe it did, but it's all just kind of everything
else was happening.
Speaker 1 (18:34):
People were throwing each other under the bus, and I
didn't know that rich was even a consideration. I knew
that Indy obviously threw herself under the bus sadly, and
then yeah, that kind of destroyed miles going home, which
was pretty pivotal.
Speaker 3 (18:48):
Yeah, and I think now he's going to be he's
going to be.
Speaker 1 (18:51):
Now he's getting be able to kind of slide under
and he can be used from side to side, and
it's going to be interesting to see how that plays out.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
Yeah, he's definitely set himself up to be a character
of this show. There's a few questions coming in about
people wanting to know about Zen with his injury and
leaving the series. Do you think that that should give
him the opportunity to come back in the next series,
regardless of the theme. Do you think, you know, having
an injury like that and coming out of the show
gives you an automatic pass or should give you an
automatic pass into another season.
Speaker 3 (19:19):
That's a great question. I cried. I cried when that happened.
Speaker 1 (19:22):
It was obviously devastating. I don't know that that's a
question for the producers obviously as a fan and him
being a fan. Oh, I think he's a fan. I
haven't really I didn't get a chest to meet him. Yeah,
if he's a super fan and he yeah, absolutely, who knows?
Speaker 3 (19:38):
That's stuck to the survivor gods.
Speaker 2 (19:39):
And the other thing I kept saying as well, was
people were saying, you know, it wasn't completely obvious that
you were going to get eliminated. It was a bit
of a blindside, but you know, people were talking about
your abilities and your abilities to read the room, and
you're even on camera saying I think I've got a
very good read on everything. But when did you think
in that tribal council that you were going to go home?
Speaker 3 (19:57):
Well this, I mean, first of all, the tribal that
went for two hours.
Speaker 1 (20:02):
You see ten minutes on the show. The first half
an hour of that tribal was Max and me, Max
and me, all the boys, all the boys, all the
boy The girls went even spoken to to the point
at one point because We're like, hello over here, we
can see Ken's the main character.
Speaker 3 (20:14):
Can we please, JLP? Do you even know who we are?
Speaker 1 (20:18):
They go for a long time, and there was a
question that was asked by JLP to AJ and then
he AJ mentioned my name and Miles's name, and the.
Speaker 3 (20:28):
Second he did that, I went, yeah, I'm right. And
I turned to.
Speaker 1 (20:32):
Zara and Rich that were behind me, and I said,
it's me, isn't it? And they went no, no, no, no,
no no no no, it's not you. And I knew,
and I wish the cameras were on me, and you
saw the smile come on my face because I was
kind of like I'm going, I'm going and yeah, look.
When that final vote was read out, there was a yeah,
it was a bit of sweet moment. But yeah, I'd
packed my bags. I'd left my hat behind for Max.
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I had my two sets of really cool shoes, one
that I painted up with vibe of logos and stuff
all over it.
Speaker 3 (21:02):
I wasn't going to leave those behind, and yeah, left
the hat for Max.
Speaker 1 (21:06):
So everyone out there going worrying about Max getting sun burnt.
Speaker 3 (21:08):
Hey have you seen this head here? Yeah? I left
my hat for Max deliberately.
Speaker 2 (21:15):
Well, it's an exciting first week of Brands Versus Braunze too.
It's a very hard thing to get people to buy
into series these days. There's people with so many options
of so many other shows they could be watching. But
this is an excellent start to the show and a
credit to you for what you brought to this series.
I think people will be talking about it for a
long time. How do you predict this series is going
to go? Do you think this is going to be
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spicy or what's your outlook?
Speaker 1 (21:38):
I don't know what's going to happen now. Look, hopefully
there's some chaos and catastrophe and it'll be interesting to
see how it plays out, depending on who wins or
loses the next challenge.
Speaker 3 (21:49):
You know, if the Braun lose, what's going to happen
with Nash? Who else?
Speaker 1 (21:54):
As a viewer now, you kind of can't see much
else happening other than Thath who's going to go next?
In in the my God? Based on last night, I
would probably say Rich, Yeah, the girls have got control, man.
I'll just pluck them off by one by one. I'll
call them the boy spooning brigade that are getting the
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boys all warm and fuzzy.
Speaker 3 (22:17):
We'll just pick them off one by one. That's exactly
what's happening to you.
Speaker 2 (22:22):
Before I let you go, I ask everyone what is
something from behind the scenes. We've got to be careful
with Survivor because we want to protect some of the
secrecy of this show. Have you got anything interesting about
your time in there that you can share that's maybe
something we didn't see on the program.
Speaker 1 (22:36):
Oh so much, But I've signed an NDA.
Speaker 2 (22:40):
You know what a good question might be to ask you
about the choices of your clothing. How much time did
it take to work out what you were going to wear?
Speaker 3 (22:46):
Put it this.
Speaker 1 (22:46):
Way, I didn't want to be the guy every season
I'm like, why the hell is it guy wearing a suit?
Speaker 3 (22:52):
Who does he think he is? Anyway, I ended up
wearing a suit jacket.
Speaker 1 (22:56):
We were the red or the orange or the pink,
so I went and got some red chinos.
Speaker 3 (23:02):
I had some really.
Speaker 1 (23:03):
Cool, helly, handsome shoes that I went and bought and
I painted them up with full colors because I'm very bland.
And yeah, my Leopard Prince shirt. There's some other cool
pink hoodie I had. Yeah, look that the wardrobe process
is guided, shall we say so?
Speaker 3 (23:21):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (23:21):
I got to wear my Leopard Prince shirt, which is
pretty cool. I was pretty pumped being able to My
wife hates that shirt though, but I love it. And
every time I wear it, I've been on a plane,
the hostess will be like, I love your shirt, and
I'm like, tell my wife, I'll be somewhere else.
Speaker 3 (23:34):
I love that shirt. Tell my wife. Maybe she hates
it because I wore it on Survivor. I don't know.
Speaker 2 (23:41):
Maybe she knows it's bringing you attention. She's worried about
you being an attention seeger. I don't know.
Speaker 3 (23:46):
Well, there's a lot of that about.
Speaker 1 (23:47):
There is a lot about that about me. Everything I have,
is bold, is bright, he is out there. I think
that comes back to being told for half my life
that I was a failure, and I just want to
kind of stand out now.
Speaker 2 (23:59):
Well, mate, I absolutely loved watching you on the show.
You're not a failure in my eyes. My thoughts with
your wife and her health, and we'll check in with that,
you know, as as time goes on. But thank you
for being so generous with your time and talking to
me on the podcast. I know so many people have
so many questions and people are invested in your story.
So yeah, you've been kind to share as much as
you have.
Speaker 1 (24:19):
Absolutely, it's been an honor and a privileged and thank
you for helping me continue this little survivor journey that's
almost over until I get invited back for billings back.
Speaker 2 (24:32):
Don't come back. I'm putting money on that. I'm just
going to say, bern a hat do something iconic like
that coming back?
Speaker 3 (24:38):
Well what I love the episode two Praying Mantis.
Speaker 2 (24:42):
Oh, I mean there's a lot of catchphrases. I mean
I was saying to my partner sitting across the couch
when I was like, do you reckon?
Speaker 1 (24:47):
Do you reckon?
Speaker 2 (24:48):
You sort of come up with some of these, like
to produces, tell them what to say. I'm in these.
You had me, you had a lot of things that landed,
you know, that were great TV moments. So I don't know.
I think we ended up deciding that we thought that's
probably just how you are in the real world. And
I think from talkers use today, I think that question
answered itself. Perfect job done, amazing, look after yourself.
It's in the news today, but it was actually on
TV Reload, the podcast last week that lif.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Hey guys, welcome back to TV Reload. I want to
thank you for clicking and downloading on today's episode with Kent,
one of this week's eliminated Australian Survivor players. The popular
reality show is back on Network ten and there's already
been a few decent twists and turns which has been
really interesting to watch unfold. Brains Versus Brown two is
a return to this popular Survivor theme and what a
(00:26):
first week we had served up by the team at
Endemols Shine Australia. I think there has been some really
cool setups with some of the characters and I'm already
quite invested in the dynamics on both teams. This week
we saw Candy, Indy and Kent eliminated in the first
tribal councils and we are lucky enough to unpack the
first week with Kent. Today. Kent will talk about how
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he was cast after ten years of applying and what
nearly saw him say no to accepting a spot in
this series. Kent will share what he thinks about the
first three eliminations and what he expects to happen in
the aftermath of his exit. I find out about his
journey on the show and what it has been like
watching his personality from a viewer's point of view. You
(01:07):
will get everything from burning maxis hat, what he really
thinks of Miles, and why it took months to recover
from this experience. There is so much to talk about,
with so many inside revelations, So guys, sit back and
relax as we unpack the wonderful world of a Strand Survivor,
which is back this week on Sunday Night. This is
very exciting because from the minute I watched the first episode,
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I'd heard that there was someone in this series that
had applied for many had been applying for many years.
I think what I want to really talk to you about, though,
is this ongoing debate about do you think being a
schooled fan of the show helps you in reality?
Speaker 1 (01:45):
Oh? Look, as much as I am a super fan,
like I've loved the show as everybody has listened and
heard forever since its inception, but I'm not one of
those people like Miles who can be like season two,
episode six, this person and played this and they should
have done that and that's not how my brain works. Sadly,
my brand's pretty good, but it's not that good. That's
(02:06):
one area where I lack, but I'm better in other areas.
So I think it's certainly something like Master has the
ability to kind of do the numbers and strategize and everything.
That's never been me. For me, it was my Waimea Bay,
my Mount Everest. It was the peak that was unachievable
that no one has climbed before.
Speaker 3 (02:25):
That's what it was for me.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
It was never about winning, it was never about it
was just achieving the goal, the dream.
Speaker 3 (02:32):
That's what it was all about for me.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
You like the rich people from Jurassic Park three where
they were like, we've got so much money we can
pay to go to the island.
Speaker 3 (02:40):
The money inside of it, you know.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
I answered one question which was, hey, Kent, are you
a multimillionaire? And I went, yeah, I'm a multimillionaire, but
I'm not Jeanine Ellis. But all you got was that
I'm a multimillionaire, and then they played that a thousand times.
And I don't want to be defined by the guy
that was cast that has a bit of money. I
would love to have just been seen as the entrepre
I know, the money side of it is irrelevant.
Speaker 3 (03:03):
In my game and who I am as a person.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
Sure that gives me some great stuff, like I get
to do cool stuff snowboarding and surfing and all that
kind of stuff.
Speaker 3 (03:10):
But yeah, it was a goal. And I'm one of
those people in life that.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
I will push and push and push and persist and persist.
And when I met my wife, I told her about
the show. My kids that are twenty eight and twenty
six have known pretty much their whole existence about Survivor,
and I told them that I'm going to be on
one day and lo and behold, guess what I did it.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
You know, there's this debate about reality TV. Let's go
with this about reality TV, where it's a really good
opportunity to look in and see who you really are
because we in the real world, we don't get it
played back and we have no idea about how people
see us. Do you think this is an accurate portrayal
of you? Do you think you might have seen something
about yourself that you thought, hang on a zech, that's
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not who I am. You know, I didn't realize that's
how I came across oh well.
Speaker 1 (03:52):
Interestingly, I was auditioned a couple of years ago as
a villain.
Speaker 3 (03:56):
They ran and said, hey, can we want to audition
it as a villain.
Speaker 1 (03:58):
And then I went, amazing a villain, but I'll try,
and they went, hey, You're not the villain, sorry, lo
and Behold. I ended up being quite villainous. But as
to who you see, honestly, don't think you know. I
have a bad bone in my body. I'm incredibly kind,
I'm full of love.
Speaker 3 (04:14):
Hopefully in the.
Speaker 1 (04:15):
In the pre show videos, you'll see me talking about
how I just want to come in there and I
want to hug Miles and hold him and protect him
because I'm worried about him. I want to be the
father figure. And then Lo and Behold. I get in there,
and night one, Miles tells me I'm the first to
go on the chopping block. Day two, he tells everybody
that I found an idol. I'm like, Okay, this journey
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is going to be a quick one.
Speaker 3 (04:36):
Better make an impact. I'm gonna I'm gonna burn Max's hat.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
Because Max had done three things to me in the
space of about ten minutes.
Speaker 3 (04:45):
I was like, Max, who's here right by the way.
He's just turned up. We're going hat shopping today, Max.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
Get My name's Ben, Welcome to the podcast. I just
wishit get a So I watched the first episode without
my partner and I said to him, there's a guy
that's in this series. When you first look at him,
you might not think he's the hottest person in the world,
but by the time you finished the episode, you'll be obsessed.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
I agree, I am the most heterosexual man on the planet.
Speaker 3 (05:12):
But I was like, my god, how good looking.
Speaker 1 (05:15):
We are gonna we are going to launch you through this,
And I said all along, he's gonna love it when
I burn his hat because he's going to be burnts down,
our main character. And you're going to get some modeling
giggs Atus because he's honestly, you're one of the best
looking dudes.
Speaker 3 (05:27):
Look at him. He's a good looking He's a good
looking guy. Thank you. It means a lot.
Speaker 2 (05:33):
We're gonna have to pick all of that up and
move it to the side.
Speaker 3 (05:36):
I'll see you in a minute.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
Lovely to meet you. So you know, Ken, I just
want to talk to you a little bit more about
just that reflection of yourself. Did watching this show make
you think about who you are as a person. Do
you think watching this will make you change any of
your behavior?
Speaker 1 (05:52):
Look, everything in Survivor is incredibly amplified. Can's a mad
man running around with the magette? No canse the guy
that has the one machete that we have that's been
nominated to chop bamboo, chop down palm frongs.
Speaker 3 (06:06):
That was it. But I'm a crazy man. Man.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
Well, you did say quite a few cutting comments. I mean,
some villainous, hilarious one line, but you did say those
things though.
Speaker 1 (06:16):
Yeah, when it comes to me, maybe the way I
kind of was like, I'm the I'm the praying mantis.
I'm going to I'm going to eat Miles alive. And
that's that's not my real world. You know.
Speaker 3 (06:26):
As I said, I went in there wanting.
Speaker 1 (06:28):
To protect I want I wanted to protect Myles, Sorry,
I wanted to I wanted to.
Speaker 3 (06:32):
Protect him and nurture him and make sure he wasn't
the first vote.
Speaker 1 (06:35):
But what happens in this game is that everything just
gets turned on its head. I went in there, first
of all, incredibly vulnerable. My wife was very sick. Just
as I'd found out I was going on the show.
If she was ill, I didn't want to leave her.
It was my it was my my dream to be
on Survivor. And then also my wife's incredibly ill, so
(06:56):
I was like So I was in tears all the
way to the airport. Night when I was prying On's shoulder,
I had hurt my back really badly.
Speaker 3 (07:03):
I tore my seratus posteria. So I was in incredible pain.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
I couldn't sleep, and I can tell you I literally
was losing my mind out there.
Speaker 3 (07:12):
So what you saw on the island was not a
true reflection of who I am.
Speaker 1 (07:17):
Maybe certainly there's elements of it, but they were amplified
based on the person that I became.
Speaker 3 (07:24):
I will say, and.
Speaker 1 (07:24):
When Rich said something's going on with Kant, I think
the appropriate words were something wasn't quite right with me.
Speaker 3 (07:30):
And it took me about a month to get quite right.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
And I've never had any sort of mental health issues
my entire life. But I came out a very fragile
human being. And that's what I've learned from I guess
from this is is that I'm far more fragile than
what I ever realized.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
I think it's important to ask how the health of
your wife is at the moment, if you don't mind
sharing about that, how is she?
Speaker 3 (07:55):
Yeah, this is difficult to talk about.
Speaker 1 (07:58):
I came great joy that I rang her and said
I'm out, and I came home to honestly a lot
of grief. We then spent the next eight weeks traveling
around Europe and had a great time. But it's been
a battle. I abandoned her in the biggest time of
need ever in her existence, and her husband.
Speaker 3 (08:18):
Got went sea. I'm going to fulfill my dream.
Speaker 1 (08:20):
Hence the overwhelmingness that hit me of all of it,
it was, Yeah, it was a lot.
Speaker 2 (08:26):
I think sometimes when we make these decisions, you know, wrong,
all right, they've been made and you have to go okay,
that's what it is, and you have to move on.
In a way, I think maybe the universe wanted you home,
and maybe the universe made that decision for you. And
I'm not completely one of those people that believes that,
but I do think sometimes it's important for us to
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let the path guide us, and you know, maybe this
was not your time. Also, maybe burning Max's hat will
allow you to be back for heroes versus villains too,
and the story may continue because there is something I
can say to you, Ken about your time on this show.
When you look at the people talking about the first
three episodes, they are talking about you. You made an impact.
Speaker 1 (09:10):
I left because I made it happen. I knew when
I burnt the hat there.
Speaker 3 (09:15):
Was never an intention of ever announcing it the tribal council.
Why would you ever do that. It's like the stupidest
move ever. Hey, guys, here's here's the machete.
Speaker 1 (09:23):
You put it to my throat. I was ready to go.
I knew it would kill me, but I needed to go.
And the second I walked.
Speaker 3 (09:31):
Out, I was like, okay, guys, yep, I'm happy to go.
This is what I haven't told you.
Speaker 1 (09:34):
My wife's a time sick and I've ticked the box
and I have.
Speaker 3 (09:37):
To get it out of here. Thank you so much.
Speaker 1 (09:40):
I sent David and phoebea message this morning and thanking
them so much for giving me the opportunity and for
the journey. And I said, never again, never again. But
you know what it's like, it's in the blood.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
Yeah, look, reality, Clev's a little bit like Craig Cocaine.
Let people get it and they're addicted, you know, And
I'll destroy their lives until they get it again.
Speaker 3 (09:58):
Yeah, look for me, for me.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
Yeah, if there was an opportunity again and they'd be
my wife would have to be well, and I would
love the opportunity, and I would play a totally different game.
Speaker 3 (10:08):
I wouldn't.
Speaker 1 (10:09):
I wouldn't hang out of a bus and destroy my
back and going injured and be in pain and not
sleep for six days. And you know, with the correct surroundings,
it would be a total And if I was on
the right tribe, I should have been. Even though I
am a little bit of a brain.
Speaker 3 (10:27):
I belonged. I belonged on the other tribe just.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
To get some of your hot takes on the show
now because you can step back and be a bit
of a viewer, but you also were there. I thought
it would interesting to ask you about some of the
other things that had happened. I really enjoyed the concept
of the White Witch, regardless as to you know who
our white witch is. I liked the idea of that.
Speaker 3 (10:47):
And the coven, I mean the Covenants.
Speaker 1 (10:48):
I guess it's a cool thing, you know, the Victoria
Bidders and the Covenants.
Speaker 3 (10:52):
Let's put a name to something they can call it
whatever they want.
Speaker 1 (10:55):
It was pretty visible day one that they were going
to sort of do what they did quite often the case.
I'm looking forward to them slowly eating each other alive,
which I'm sure is inevitable. That's what's going to happen.
Someone's going to flip. That's the beauty of this game,
and it's so exciting to watch. I've caught up with
so many people from the show. Max is here right now,
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Laura and myself, Morgan, Kate, and Noonan.
Speaker 3 (11:21):
I've caught up with.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
Miles, I've caught up with Kursten. We've all gone out
for dinners. And Laura in particularly I found lovely. Yeah,
she was great, although she was pretty cut throat on
me last night, and I, as I said in the
show last night, you know I trust you.
Speaker 3 (11:35):
Yeah she lied to my face, but yeah, she's a
good white witch.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
Well that's the nature of these sorts of shows. So like,
if you to play these games, well, you want to
be able to create these TV moments, and this particular
show celebrates people who lie, and you know a lie,
well that's a part of it.
Speaker 3 (11:51):
You watch.
Speaker 1 (11:51):
Aj Aj is going to be I think he's going
to be good to watch.
Speaker 3 (11:55):
I don't have the benefit of kind of knowing what's.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
Going to happen, but I feel that, Yeah, Aj came
out last night, not out of the closet, he came out,
and he's going to rise.
Speaker 3 (12:07):
I can see that.
Speaker 2 (12:08):
Looking at some of the other people that left this
show this week, what did you think of the first boot?
So you've got Candy that's coming out of this show first,
did you think that was the right decision there?
Speaker 1 (12:17):
Well, yeah, lookh Nash walking out one of the boldest,
fastest finding ever idols, wearing it into you know, that
was a pretty bold statement.
Speaker 3 (12:26):
He was probably always going to.
Speaker 1 (12:28):
Play it, and it's always sad to see somebody go,
you know, it's devastating for anybody.
Speaker 3 (12:34):
She was just a byproduct of Nash playing.
Speaker 1 (12:37):
His idol, and sadly she was seen as kind of
the weakest link. I think, probably because she was just
one of the little girls and Kate and her. But
you'll find, you know, people like Kate, her Zara, they
thrive in the challenges where they can hang off poles
and you know, support their own body weight and all
those kinds of things. She would have excelled in those things,
or she had to climb through ropes and everything.
Speaker 3 (12:57):
It was sad to see her go, It really was.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
And Nash has made some pretty bold booths. I mean,
I would never have found that idol and want it
around my neck and carry it on like he did.
Like I thought that was a choice. That's a real
decision in your gameplay. Did you think that? Do you
think that's going to bite him in the ass, because
what do you think about some of Nash's decisions? And
if he didn't have that idol, maybe should he be
the one to go home first.
Speaker 3 (13:19):
I don't know about him needing to be the one
to go home first.
Speaker 1 (13:22):
I certainly would wouldn't ever tell anybody if I found
an idol, and PAULI did it last night. I think
it's always good to keep these things because long and behold,
you know, and if I tell you, then you'll know.
Speaker 3 (13:34):
Chinese whispers and before you know it, it's everywhere.
Speaker 1 (13:36):
So I think, really it's best to always keep those
things to yourself unless there's one particular person that you
think you can really can fight and you can use
it together.
Speaker 3 (13:46):
But we've seen that it can implode, explode. You just
never know. It's all about trust and who you can
and who you can't. But ultimately, at the end of
the day, everyone always gets stabbed in the back, don't they.
Speaker 2 (13:58):
Is an interesting thing that you've brought up right out,
because like trust in episode two could have been the
name of the episode, because what we saw unravel with
Indy's decisions seemed to be about misguided trust. You know,
she really could have stayed with her alliance but chose
to step out of it. It begs me to ask
the question as to whether or not she should have
(14:18):
just bit her tongue, you know, and waited, because it
makes you wonder whether or not in the game of
survivor do you play in the moment or are you
playing three steps down the line? Because what's going to
get you to the end?
Speaker 3 (14:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (14:30):
Look, certainly, if she hadn't have done what she did,
Miles would have gone home. That was clear, and then
I would have I would have got what I wanted.
On the back of Miles telling you when I had
an idol and telling me I was the first to go.
I had blinkers on for him, which was probably a
little bit silly of me.
Speaker 3 (14:47):
But your Indy, Indy imploded, But I understand it until
until you've played it.
Speaker 1 (14:53):
It's so there's just so much going on, and you know,
it's always talked about in suburb at the Paranoid. When
Myles told me, you know, I was actually surprisingly incredibly
calm when.
Speaker 3 (15:05):
He said my name. But then about an hour later
it kicked in. I was like, ah, I'll it eats
your live. It really does. And then you take away
the food and you.
Speaker 1 (15:14):
Take away the sleep, and all of a sudden it's like,
oh my god, can I make a decision?
Speaker 3 (15:20):
This is the correct one?
Speaker 1 (15:21):
And then you think you have, and then someone tells
somebody else and then all of a sudden, the whole
thing flips on his head. It's like what she said
that he said that, you know, and then all of
a sudden, the whole thing flips.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
That's what makes this game so exciting. It's also happening
so fast in real time, so it's also happening fast
for the viewer, but in real time it's a lot slower.
It's interesting with your analogy about the dragon or the
poison slowly seeping in. I mean that really permeates more
when you're in real time, because with all that time
in your head and in your mind you're not making
decisions as fast as they look on the show. Do
(15:51):
you think that in some ways you were second guessing
some of the decisions that you were making.
Speaker 1 (15:55):
Oh, in hindsight, probably the kmmodo dragon bit himself and
was slowly, slowly kind of eating me alive.
Speaker 3 (16:03):
Yeah, there's a lot of things that you know in hindsight.
Speaker 1 (16:06):
And it's again when you watch, When you watch the
show and you see what was happening in those conversations
that were twenty feet away, thirty away, thirty feet away, whatever,
then you kind of then you get the true picture
what you think is your reality.
Speaker 3 (16:21):
And everyone's telling you, yes, don't trust me data, don't worry.
If something's fine.
Speaker 1 (16:25):
It's again, you can you can be the only looking
you know one hundred and eighty degrees. You can have
people right behind you that are sticking the knife in
your back and you just can't.
Speaker 3 (16:34):
See it, you can't feel it.
Speaker 1 (16:36):
You need to be incredibly intuitive, and a few days
in the ability to do that bades pretty quickly, and
the people that rise at the top of the people
that capable of probably going in with the strategy and
being able to maintain that discipline, that state Miles did
a great job. I'm just going to I'm just going
(16:56):
to play it, mister cool and sat there and just
I mean, credit to the guy. You didn't see me.
I was brutal on him. I stood in front of him,
said I accused him of stealing the hat, in front
of everyone. I know what you're doing. You told everyone
I found an idol. You told me not one. I
was full on with him.
Speaker 3 (17:12):
That's probably why they cut so you didn't see it.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
I was going to say, Miles is an interesting character, though,
how do I describe this for the viewers perspective? He
sort of is an uncomfortable person sometimes, like, but is
he using that tactic of being uncomfortable in game play?
Speaker 1 (17:27):
Like?
Speaker 2 (17:27):
I could almost imagine Miles could be a completely different
person out of this game.
Speaker 3 (17:31):
No, I've met Miles out of the game.
Speaker 1 (17:32):
We've had beers together, and Miles is the same outside
as he is inside. Miles love him. We've been messaging
each other this morning and he is full on. And
I was rapped that actually, Klin, by the way you
saw it wasn't just me going hey, mate, show some
emotional intelligence. Stopped doing this as he was twenty four
seven three sixty five.
Speaker 3 (17:53):
Bang bang bang bang bang bang bang, telling people that
they didn't belong there. What are we even doing here? Like,
you're not a brain, I'm the brain.
Speaker 1 (18:00):
If this is someone's journey, man, don't say that kind
of stuff.
Speaker 3 (18:03):
And he's brilliant.
Speaker 1 (18:04):
His brain is just the intellect in that guy's the
way that his brain thinks.
Speaker 3 (18:10):
It's manic, it's on overdrive.
Speaker 1 (18:13):
It's almost like it comes out without any thought, and
then he regrets it. And that's why he kind of said,
I need to kind of a credit to the guy
where he went himself back that day and he did
him Actually, really, is it all exploded around him to
him sitting there changed it?
Speaker 3 (18:31):
Maybe it did, but it's all just kind of everything
else was happening.
Speaker 1 (18:34):
People were throwing each other under the bus, and I
didn't know that rich was even a consideration. I knew
that Indy obviously threw herself under the bus sadly, and
then yeah, that kind of destroyed miles going home, which
was pretty pivotal.
Speaker 3 (18:48):
Yeah, and I think now he's going to be he's
going to be.
Speaker 1 (18:51):
Now he's getting be able to kind of slide under
and he can be used from side to side, and
it's going to be interesting to see how that plays out.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
Yeah, he's definitely set himself up to be a character
of this show. There's a few questions coming in about
people wanting to know about Zen with his injury and
leaving the series. Do you think that that should give
him the opportunity to come back in the next series,
regardless of the theme. Do you think, you know, having
an injury like that and coming out of the show
gives you an automatic pass or should give you an
automatic pass into another season.
Speaker 3 (19:19):
That's a great question. I cried. I cried when that happened.
Speaker 1 (19:22):
It was obviously devastating. I don't know that that's a
question for the producers obviously as a fan and him
being a fan. Oh, I think he's a fan. I
haven't really I didn't get a chest to meet him. Yeah,
if he's a super fan and he yeah, absolutely, who knows?
Speaker 3 (19:38):
That's stuck to the survivor gods.
Speaker 2 (19:39):
And the other thing I kept saying as well, was
people were saying, you know, it wasn't completely obvious that
you were going to get eliminated. It was a bit
of a blindside, but you know, people were talking about
your abilities and your abilities to read the room, and
you're even on camera saying I think I've got a
very good read on everything. But when did you think
in that tribal council that you were going to go home?
Speaker 3 (19:57):
Well this, I mean, first of all, the tribal that
went for two hours.
Speaker 1 (20:02):
You see ten minutes on the show. The first half
an hour of that tribal was Max and me, Max
and me, all the boys, all the boys, all the
boy The girls went even spoken to to the point
at one point because We're like, hello over here, we
can see Ken's the main character.
Speaker 3 (20:14):
Can we please, JLP? Do you even know who we are?
Speaker 1 (20:18):
They go for a long time, and there was a
question that was asked by JLP to AJ and then
he AJ mentioned my name and Miles's name, and the.
Speaker 3 (20:28):
Second he did that, I went, yeah, I'm right. And
I turned to.
Speaker 1 (20:32):
Zara and Rich that were behind me, and I said,
it's me, isn't it? And they went no, no, no, no,
no no no no, it's not you. And I knew,
and I wish the cameras were on me, and you
saw the smile come on my face because I was
kind of like I'm going, I'm going and yeah, look.
When that final vote was read out, there was a yeah,
it was a bit of sweet moment. But yeah, I'd
packed my bags. I'd left my hat behind for Max.
(20:55):
I had my two sets of really cool shoes, one
that I painted up with vibe of logos and stuff
all over it.
Speaker 3 (21:02):
I wasn't going to leave those behind, and yeah, left
the hat for Max.
Speaker 1 (21:06):
So everyone out there going worrying about Max getting sun burnt.
Speaker 3 (21:08):
Hey have you seen this head here? Yeah? I left
my hat for Max deliberately.
Speaker 2 (21:15):
Well, it's an exciting first week of Brands Versus Braunze too.
It's a very hard thing to get people to buy
into series these days. There's people with so many options
of so many other shows they could be watching. But
this is an excellent start to the show and a
credit to you for what you brought to this series.
I think people will be talking about it for a
long time. How do you predict this series is going
to go? Do you think this is going to be
(21:35):
spicy or what's your outlook?
Speaker 1 (21:38):
I don't know what's going to happen now. Look, hopefully
there's some chaos and catastrophe and it'll be interesting to
see how it plays out, depending on who wins or
loses the next challenge.
Speaker 3 (21:49):
You know, if the Braun lose, what's going to happen
with Nash? Who else?
Speaker 1 (21:54):
As a viewer now, you kind of can't see much
else happening other than Thath who's going to go next?
In in the my God? Based on last night, I
would probably say Rich, Yeah, the girls have got control, man.
I'll just pluck them off by one by one. I'll
call them the boy spooning brigade that are getting the
(22:15):
boys all warm and fuzzy.
Speaker 3 (22:17):
We'll just pick them off one by one. That's exactly
what's happening to you.
Speaker 2 (22:22):
Before I let you go, I ask everyone what is
something from behind the scenes. We've got to be careful
with Survivor because we want to protect some of the
secrecy of this show. Have you got anything interesting about
your time in there that you can share that's maybe
something we didn't see on the program.
Speaker 1 (22:36):
Oh so much, But I've signed an NDA.
Speaker 2 (22:40):
You know what a good question might be to ask you
about the choices of your clothing. How much time did
it take to work out what you were going to wear?
Speaker 3 (22:46):
Put it this.
Speaker 1 (22:46):
Way, I didn't want to be the guy every season
I'm like, why the hell is it guy wearing a suit?
Speaker 3 (22:52):
Who does he think he is? Anyway, I ended up
wearing a suit jacket.
Speaker 1 (22:56):
We were the red or the orange or the pink,
so I went and got some red chinos.
Speaker 3 (23:02):
I had some really.
Speaker 1 (23:03):
Cool, helly, handsome shoes that I went and bought and
I painted them up with full colors because I'm very bland.
And yeah, my Leopard Prince shirt. There's some other cool
pink hoodie I had. Yeah, look that the wardrobe process
is guided, shall we say so?
Speaker 3 (23:21):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (23:21):
I got to wear my Leopard Prince shirt, which is
pretty cool. I was pretty pumped being able to My
wife hates that shirt though, but I love it. And
every time I wear it, I've been on a plane,
the hostess will be like, I love your shirt, and
I'm like, tell my wife, I'll be somewhere else.
Speaker 3 (23:34):
I love that shirt. Tell my wife. Maybe she hates
it because I wore it on Survivor. I don't know.
Speaker 2 (23:41):
Maybe she knows it's bringing you attention. She's worried about
you being an attention seeger. I don't know.
Speaker 3 (23:46):
Well, there's a lot of that about.
Speaker 1 (23:47):
There is a lot about that about me. Everything I have,
is bold, is bright, he is out there. I think
that comes back to being told for half my life
that I was a failure, and I just want to
kind of stand out now.
Speaker 2 (23:59):
Well, mate, I absolutely loved watching you on the show.
You're not a failure in my eyes. My thoughts with
your wife and her health, and we'll check in with that,
you know, as as time goes on. But thank you
for being so generous with your time and talking to
me on the podcast. I know so many people have
so many questions and people are invested in your story.
So yeah, you've been kind to share as much as
you have.
Speaker 1 (24:19):
Absolutely, it's been an honor and a privileged and thank
you for helping me continue this little survivor journey that's
almost over until I get invited back for billings back.
Speaker 2 (24:32):
Don't come back. I'm putting money on that. I'm just
going to say, bern a hat do something iconic like
that coming back?
Speaker 3 (24:38):
Well what I love the episode two Praying Mantis.
Speaker 2 (24:42):
Oh, I mean there's a lot of catchphrases. I mean
I was saying to my partner sitting across the couch
when I was like, do you reckon?
Speaker 1 (24:47):
Do you reckon?
Speaker 2 (24:48):
You sort of come up with some of these, like
to produces, tell them what to say. I'm in these.
You had me, you had a lot of things that landed,
you know, that were great TV moments. So I don't know.
I think we ended up deciding that we thought that's
probably just how you are in the real world. And
I think from talkers use today, I think that question
answered itself. Perfect job done, amazing, look after yourself.
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