February 27, 2025 • 20 mins
Hi Guys, welcome back to TV Reload. Thank you for clicking or downloading on today’s episode with Nash one of this weeks eliminated Australian Survivor players.
The second week saw another very noisy player booted and we are going to get some hot takes on why Nash was eliminated and what he thinks of the days that followed.
- Nash will talk about that 'ido'l being found so early and I will ask if that turned out to be a negative in his eyes.
- Nash will share what he thinks about fake crying and he will expose the truth behind those tears.
- I find out about his secret friendship with a past winner.
- You will get Nash's takes on moments like Max’s advantage, what he really thought the cover and what he thinks he would do differently next time.
There is so much to talk about with so many inside revelations. So sit back and relax as we unpack the wonderful world of Australian Survivor. Which is back this week on Sunday night.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
It's in the news today, but it was actually on
TV Reload, the podcast last week that light.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Hey, guys, welcome back to TV Reload. I want to
thank you for clicking and downloading on today's episode with Nash,
one of this week's eliminated Australian Survivor players. The second
week saw another very noisy player getting booted, and we
are going to get some hot takes from Nash on
why he was eliminated and what he thinks of the
days that followed. Nash will talk about the idol being
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found so early on, and I will ask if that
turned out to be a negative in his eyes. Nash
will share what he thinks about fake crying, and he
will explain the truth behind some of those tears. I
find out about his secret friendship with a past winner
of the show. Everything from Nash's perspective on moments like
Max's advantage, what he really thought of the coven, and
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what he thinks he would do differently if he gets
asked back for another season. There's actually so much to
talk about, as per usual, So sit back and relax, guys,
as we unpack the wonderful of Australian Survivor Brains Versus
Braun Series two, which is back this Sunday night. How
I and Ash are you well?
Speaker 3 (01:08):
I'm great. I am so happy. I'm great. I'm feeling good.
I'm really pumped.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
It must be really weird when you're sort of not
used to being on television and then all of a
sudden watching yourself on television in a high pressure environment
like Survivor.
Speaker 3 (01:22):
Yeah, one hundred percent it is.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
It's weird having everything all around you, but you tend
to get used to it and just they become, you know, invisible.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
This is all permeating for you, I guess, and it's
probably all starting to land. But in some ways you
might be one of the more polarizing players that we've
seen in Survivor. You know, you were very loud with
your gameplay and very deliberate.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
I'm a very loud person in general. I mean, I
love to entertain. I love to make people smile. I
love to crack jokes and make bad situations into jokes
because you know, small makes people happy.
Speaker 3 (01:57):
Laugh to makes people happy, you know, I mean, And
that's the time person I am.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
But yes, when it comes down to business, I can
be serious and I can pretty much you know, saw
you what I need to sell you and if it works,
it works, you buy and it worked out.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
You know, does sales work? Does it translate to survivor
what do you think?
Speaker 1 (02:13):
Look definitely not because there's so many conversations going around.
It's probably that was probably my hardest time and sales
and my whole life. I've been in sales for twenty
years and selling yourself and survivor. It's crazy because you're
with these guys twenty four hours, seven days a week.
Speaker 3 (02:27):
You know that they're.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
Seeing everything around your own sales. You can really, you know,
do what you need to do, exit and just it
leaves it in there.
Speaker 3 (02:34):
But they see who you talk to.
Speaker 1 (02:36):
You know. It's not like you can hide away and
make these little conversations and go to the next door.
Speaker 3 (02:41):
And go to the next door. So it was very,
very hard. I think I done well.
Speaker 1 (02:46):
There's a lot I need to learn, obviously, you know,
being in that situation.
Speaker 3 (02:49):
In that environment. You know there's a little.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
Bit of sell techniques I should have really used. I
should have done a couple of little things differently. But
you know, the main thing I realized is people were entertained.
The guys played from straight away. I felt like they
were a bit intimidated from the beginning, which was a
bit exciting.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
You know.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
Chaos was fun, you know, like looking at the Brains team,
I'm like, oh, that would have been so fun to
be on there and see what we could have done here.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
I mean, my favorite thing that I found out this
week about you was your history with last year's winner, Ferris.
I mean, obviously I'm a huge first fan, so I
saw you on his podcast. Good on him forgetting you
first and having exclusive But I was like, did he
train you? And did you not listen?
Speaker 3 (03:35):
So just I'll give you a bit of intol.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
Yes he did, and King George of Bankson's was a
good friend of mine because he lives.
Speaker 3 (03:42):
Only down the road.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
So yes, they gave me a lot of do's and don'ts,
and you know a bit of.
Speaker 3 (03:47):
Down the toilet one hundred percent. I did, I am
who I am? You know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (03:56):
Yes, maybe a little bit too much on the game.
I should have really really being me, It would have
probably really played to my advantage. But obviously, being in
that scenario, being a survivor and everything's just going to
make judgment straight away and look sometimes that were the
wrong ones. Sometimes with the good ones, you just don't know.
And how many times did you make the right judgments?
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In survivor means nothing toil, you know, the final votes
ridden down.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
It's interesting about you talking about being meat when you
got you know, should I be more meat? Where I
felt like I was yelling at the TV screen watching
you when you said, you know, I can cry on tap.
You know, so you put the waterworks on and you
were sort of manipulating people. I agree to a certain
extent that you could probably do some of that. But
my biggest concern is they might have believed you right.
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They might have actually believed every tear and sympathized with you.
But when you are lying about something like that, it's
human nature to second guess that person. And I wondered
whether or not by pretending to do things like that
it made people put a target on your back. What
do you think?
Speaker 3 (04:58):
So I'll give you a bit of an insight in cry. Okay,
it was a genuine cry.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
That was my birthday that day, Oh, happy birthday for them,
thank you. So I obviously was pretty emotional that day.
I was missing my kids. It was my birthday, but.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
Say that, Nash. Don't say I'm crying and I'm pretending
to cry. That's we need to call you out.
Speaker 3 (05:18):
Look, it's you take it to the advantage, you know.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
But you were crying because you were genuinely upset. You
were not upset that day.
Speaker 1 (05:25):
Yes, and it means that I could bonusly get these
guys to maybe film me a little bit more to
my advantage.
Speaker 3 (05:32):
Why not.
Speaker 2 (05:33):
I'm looking at you right now and I'm enjoying you
right now more than I'm enjoying and enjoyed you on
the show. You are a likable, lovable character. You're really
are on the show, it kind of looked like a
kid maybe had too much sugar at a birthday party,
and it kind of made it hard to relate to you.
It was kind of like, calm down, Nash.
Speaker 3 (05:52):
I agreed.
Speaker 1 (05:53):
I think you only saw bits and pieces of Nash
on Sah. You didn't see a lot of the back
and stuff of the real real Nash.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
But I'm getting it from you right now. I've been
talking to you for five minutes and I'm getting the
real Nash and I'm loving it. I'm loving you is
the real Nash.
Speaker 3 (06:08):
What you see me of Israel Nash.
Speaker 1 (06:10):
Yes, of course, I can, you know, play out a
lot of the different scenarios and be over the top
and be really.
Speaker 3 (06:17):
Shying quite I can do all of that. But I
think what you what Australia saw was like a really
tiny bit of the real meat.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
You know that the way in which I think anyone
wins these sorts of shows is about staying authentic within themselves,
like there has to be that inner truth behind it.
And whilst I think you did give glimpses of that,
because there was so many different levels to it, I
just felt like it could have been not great for
your gameplay.
Speaker 3 (06:47):
I agree, You're probably right, I should have probably played
the game a little bit more differently.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
Agreed, this person right now is a person that could
win Survivor.
Speaker 1 (06:56):
One hundred percent if the real one hundred percent Nash
without the extra when in yet one hundred definitely one
hundred percent with I think with the genuine people meeting me, Yeah,
I think definitely there there was a lit'll be a
great chance one hundred percent.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
What about this idol because I feel like you got
the idol the fastest in history, and I'm pretty sure
that's the tagline but like it didn't work to your advantage,
because if you get an idol, you should hide at
or an actual fact. You got this idol and used
it on display, and that's a choice. But I think
that howd that not have happened? Howd you not have
found that idol in the first episode? I think you
would still be there now.
Speaker 3 (07:30):
I feel like you're wrong in that.
Speaker 1 (07:32):
Being at my weight level within the Bronze team, I
wanted to show these guys that, hey, just because I'm
the biggest in the group and not the fittest and
not the fastest, I can play this game too, so
I'm ready to play. I wanted to also want to
show I'm okay, I've got an idol. I'm playing a
fair game.
Speaker 3 (07:49):
I'm not hiding it.
Speaker 1 (07:50):
Let's see who's were ready to play with me, you know,
Let's see who's willing to look Puckinash. You know what,
we appreciate your show us to your idol. We respect
that it was a completely different reaction. Obviously, term they might.
Speaker 3 (08:01):
Respect that I've showed them I've got an idol.
Speaker 2 (08:03):
Yeah. I hate asking people about regrets though, but do
you think that there's any regrets over that? Decision.
Speaker 3 (08:09):
Of course there is one hundred percent Like I mean,
it's great for TV, but for gameplay, I assumed it
might do a little bit different and get a different reaction,
but obviously did enough. Felt like people were instantly scared.
And what do you do? You know, it's a choice
you make on the spot, and whether it was a
bad or a good one, Like if we found out
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what it was, you know what I mean, it still
gave me another you know, eight nine days after that.
But look, maybe not even playing the idol at my
exit would have been a good play.
Speaker 1 (08:38):
But she was didn't know if I had sold Morgan
and Kate enough. Obviously, when I looked up Morgan, she
put her head down, and that worried me a little bit.
I knew I had Kate ready to go, but Morgan
putting her head down, I was like, you know what.
Speaker 3 (08:51):
I'm not going home with an idol. Let me just
play it.
Speaker 1 (08:53):
I fought enough for us to get enough votes out
of her so she doesn't go home because she was
my closest and Kandy was just the only person socially
that I just felt didn't connect with anyone, or I
wouldn't break a patch up that was just what it was.
And I didn't connect with her. I mean, we never
really had a chance to connect them. She was the
first easiest name I could go for.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
When you were also claiming that you threw that puzzle,
there were so many people on the Facebook group saying, yeah, right,
you threw the puzzle, you just weren't good at it.
What was the truth then with that? Were you actually
trying to throw that or did you just try and
claim that you threw it afterwards?
Speaker 1 (09:31):
I don't think I could have made it any more obvious.
All actually was literally pretty much sit on the floor
and wait for noon and to finish the puzzle. I
didn't help that all with the puzzle, Okay I didn't.
I was the only way I could throw this challenge.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
Well, it's interesting because you come out on a Monday
and there was still more episodes to come. Are you
and your family still watching the show like you?
Speaker 1 (09:51):
I love obviously, I know everything that's happened, but I
just love the drama that's happening, the actions and how
people where there were se you know, yes, you were safe,
especially last night.
Speaker 3 (10:02):
I did not expect aliy go.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
I mean, come on, do you think the fact that
she went across to the other team and played that.
When she went across to the other side, I thought
that put a huge target on her back. She repeated
way too many things, and she came back and my father,
she's going to go. Next time there's an opportunity to
chop her, they're going to chop her. So, I mean,
it wasn't maybe such as a big surprise to it.
Speaker 3 (10:24):
No, I know that one hundred percent, But I think
that I would probably done the same thing, but I
just probably wouldn't tell the girls.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
Well, I don't understand, Like, this coven thing is great.
They've got such a great team going, but they've been
trying to pull apart their advantage being in a coven
since the day that they decided they were in a coven.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
Like, the problem is, if it's a girl's group, you
can't have two other girls wanting Rich or wanting Max.
Speaker 3 (10:47):
It just doesn't work if it's all girls. You just
took to all girls.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
Okay, do you think that Max played his advantage correctly?
Because I thought that was really fascinating to say.
Speaker 3 (10:56):
Oh I was.
Speaker 1 (10:57):
I was like, okay, my holes is going one hundred percent.
I did not expect Ali to go. I think he
played it real well personally. I think he maybe should
have kept Laura and Current in to get the Miles numbers.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
Yeah, I mean, you could have moved those girls around
just a slight bit and there would have been a
different results. So you know, he had to have been
really sort of putting together the pieces to decide girls
to send.
Speaker 3 (11:25):
Laura.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
Yeah, I think he thought too specific about it. I
thought he thought of the move being let's dissipate the
women's ability, like the coven's ability. I think he was
thinking that. I don't think he was tuned in enough
to where those votes would go if two of them
were gone, you know what I mean, he.
Speaker 3 (11:42):
Had one target.
Speaker 1 (11:43):
He just that was all it was in his attack, attack, attack,
and let's just hope it works.
Speaker 2 (11:49):
And you know what, when it doesn't work and you
get close like that, you really only get one shot.
And I'm going to tell you I know nothing about
what's going to happen, but I'm going to say he
took his one shot at Miles, and if history repeats itself,
I think that's not going to work in Max's favor.
I feel like that's going to be really hard.
Speaker 1 (12:05):
To because someone's about to turn and there again that's
what I think as well.
Speaker 3 (12:09):
That might happen, but who knows, who knows.
Speaker 1 (12:13):
You know, it might become a friendship after and they
move on and go pretty far together.
Speaker 3 (12:18):
You just don't know. It's survival.
Speaker 1 (12:19):
I mean, people turn Look at the girls love each other,
we're best friends forever, and they're breaking apart, you know,
like people turn on.
Speaker 3 (12:26):
Everyone, you know. I mean, it's just really you got
to just save yourself in the end, and it's what's
best for you.
Speaker 2 (12:30):
Why didn't they turn on Max though?
Speaker 1 (12:32):
Why didn't they turn on Max? I think Max was
just a person they want to keep.
Speaker 3 (12:36):
I think it was good entertainment. Okay, I think it
was good entertainment.
Speaker 1 (12:40):
Sometimes you make judgments on who you really want to
wake up next to.
Speaker 3 (12:44):
In the morning.
Speaker 2 (12:44):
Uh huh.
Speaker 1 (12:45):
You know, I think you know, for me Zen going
if like it would have I would never vote for
Zen because I would enjoy you know, nice we sleep
together with crack jokes, we have a laugh, and we
just great things. I wouldn't have voted forever for Jesse
because me and him would can we make you know,
great content with being each other?
Speaker 3 (13:03):
We do crazy things.
Speaker 1 (13:05):
Sometimes your judgments really affect you in a way because
you've actually gained a relationship and probably you know what,
when it comes down to it, if it becomes someone
I'm really close to, for example, Ursula, yes I loved
hanging out with her and everything, and then someone yes
I'm still close to, But can I you know, can
I go with Adam for another day because is a
really good friend of mine and we connect. Yeah, you
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know what, I can get rid of them, But I
couldn't go for Usla as much as I know if
she's dogged me. I know, these are kind of things
that go through your head sometimes, you know, Like I
knew that my votse was gunning for me and she
had to save herself. I really wish my tribe just
like my alliance p D. Christino, so just believed in
me a little bit, because I know, I know for
a fact, if they just work with me a little bit,
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we could have convinced one or two people and the
game would have changed completely.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
If you could pick one person that you didn't work
hard enough on in your team to try and stick around, well,
who would that person be?
Speaker 3 (13:58):
Yeah? If I flipped Ben's it was. It was a
no brain.
Speaker 1 (14:03):
I would never gone home if I flipped, Ben Jesse
would have flipped and then the rest is history. But
it's just I think the Bronze were just mainly braun
strong brawn muscles. We're keeping the must league, We're keeping
the fittest, you know. And I'm like, think about the future, Like,
you know, not every game is about strength and stuff
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like that. Think about the future. Just think about who's
going to wipe you out later. So I thought a
little bit different. They think a little bit different. Yeah,
I thought really early in the game. They thinking later
on the game. You'll see what happens later on the game.
And whether I say is right or wrong, we'll soon
to find out.
Speaker 2 (14:42):
Do you reckon that if you've got us to go
back on the show, we would get the same as
what we got this time, Like, how much do you
think I returned to this format would show a different
side to you or do you think?
Speaker 3 (14:53):
Look, if I was on the brain Steam, I think
you would have seen a different.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
Nash okay bringing it up. But I still I'm sitting
here with you today and I'm like, this is the
sort of person I'd be making alliances with one hundred percent.
Speaker 1 (15:05):
I think if you commit to me, I will make
sure you're family for life.
Speaker 3 (15:10):
Look, obviously someone's got to be stabborn in the back,
but you'll get.
Speaker 1 (15:13):
Stup in the back knowing that I'd done it out
of my heart and not because I hate you.
Speaker 2 (15:18):
Don't get me wrong, you did make good television. I
always like the noisiest, most polarizing players. And when I
started this chat, you're probably like, why are you calling
me polarizing? You being negative? I'm not. I actually think
that you know you only get one shot to be
on his shows and you want to make an impact.
I want people to remember you, and that is something
you walk away with.
Speaker 3 (15:34):
So the reason why I've done the podcast with us
and Yeahs and it.
Speaker 2 (15:37):
Was a roast, right, I loved it because of it.
Speaker 3 (15:41):
I wanted Australia to see that Nash is actually a
genuine guy.
Speaker 1 (15:44):
He can take its really heavy, heavy hits like a
lot of people, like even fair.
Speaker 3 (15:49):
I said that I don't think I would have been
able to take what you can take.
Speaker 1 (15:51):
And I took them and I laughed and smiled, and
here I am, I'm still smiling.
Speaker 3 (15:55):
I'm still poking it out because I understand sometimes in
life people need to be picked on to make you know,
someone else laugh or so not everyone's gonna love each other.
Speaker 2 (16:04):
I don't know that. I don't think that that. You
don't need to position yourself like that, you know what
I mean, Like, it's not your job to make people laugh.
You don't have to make yourself small to make that happen.
Speaker 1 (16:13):
Yeah, but I don't feel that I'm making myself small.
I'm obviously being a dad. I want to make my
kids happy. Look, that's something wy you make them smile.
It's just a thing I've always done in my life.
Speaker 3 (16:23):
I'm the only child, and I'm just that funny, lovable,
you know, out of the world character that just likes
to crack jokes out of nowhere, whether they're you know,
the right time on the wrong time.
Speaker 1 (16:32):
But that's just me who I am. If you ask
my family and friends, that's nash Like, yeah, who I am.
I love too smile. I don't like being upset. That's
not a thing that it really built into me, you know.
So it's hard to break me. And when I break,
I really break down, but not an upcent the time.
I'm actually a very happy person.
Speaker 2 (16:48):
Well, I love that this week we got to I
mean the end of this week we got to see
a promo for them dropping their buffs, and I'm like,
I don't know if that's happening early. I don't know
what's going on or wasn't expecting that to happen at
this point. What do you think is going to happen
when we mix these teams up?
Speaker 1 (17:04):
The Bronze are going to struggle, I believe, okay, I
believe the Brons are going to struggle. And if it's
going to be a mixed, mixed team and with the
crazy brains that you've got, I feel like there's going
to be a lot of attack on the brain Brounze, okay,
because they're not built.
Speaker 3 (17:18):
They're not built to do.
Speaker 1 (17:20):
From what I felt, they weren't built enough to do
crazy stuff, and the brains were always doing ready to
do crazy stuff.
Speaker 3 (17:28):
That's how I see it. But who knows? Who knows?
Speaker 2 (17:33):
Yeah, the Surviving Universe, you know, an a dime, you know, the.
Speaker 1 (17:37):
Best game in the world, and it can still come second.
You know, you just don't know.
Speaker 2 (17:40):
I asked that every moment I leave this podcast for
something from behind the scenes, and it's really hard ad
Survivor because there's a lot this is a big program
all around the world. We don't want to sort of
get you in trouble with an NDA. So I thought
about a question to ask you, and I want to know,
give you one piece of advice that George King George
gave you as going into this game, because I'm sure
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you asked him, and I'm sure he would have given
you a four and a half hour ted talk on it.
What was the take home?
Speaker 3 (18:10):
It's I can't really say, yes you can.
Speaker 2 (18:13):
That's what we want to know.
Speaker 3 (18:14):
If there's nothing happening, make something happen.
Speaker 2 (18:17):
Okay, I love that. That's a good one.
Speaker 1 (18:19):
That's what If nothing's happening, makes something happen. And I did,
really I did.
Speaker 2 (18:26):
And you know, the producers and everybody would have been
loving it. They would have been right.
Speaker 3 (18:29):
They loved it.
Speaker 1 (18:30):
Producers love the content, look great, TV explosive, season great
from the start.
Speaker 3 (18:35):
A lot of people didn't like.
Speaker 1 (18:36):
You know, really really strategy fans. I know, I've read
the comments. They didn't like it.
Speaker 3 (18:42):
Stubid deers, hey, apply, get on, let me know how
you go. That's what I say. I don't seem behind
a computer and write comments they apply go on, show
me how you play?
Speaker 2 (18:53):
Yeah, yeah, and then we'll talk about it offline.
Speaker 3 (18:55):
We'll talk about it. Let's see.
Speaker 1 (18:56):
You know I made it, you know, out of how
many thousands applied, Yeah, I was chosen. This is the
game I played. Whether it was wrong or right, There
is no right game. The only person who played the
right game is the winner at the end.
Speaker 2 (19:07):
You know, a people of the right comments about these things.
The sad people like no one normal goes and gets
online and writes about someone they've never met before. You know,
whatever they're putting out online says more about them.
Speaker 3 (19:19):
I read it.
Speaker 1 (19:19):
I read that night on my in the first episode
I went through X. I was trending forth on X.
Speaker 2 (19:24):
Why would you do that?
Speaker 1 (19:26):
And I smiled at every single comment I loved because
it doesn't hurt me. It doesn't hurt me. I've born
on national TV. Yeah, being one hundred and five killers
with my shirt off.
Speaker 3 (19:35):
Luck. Do you think that really? Comments? People comments really early?
They don't. I can handle it like it's just words.
Speaker 2 (19:42):
Well, I'm signing up to your ted talk because I reckon,
you've got a lot to You've got a lot to say,
and a really interesting perspective on that. So I have
to let you go because I'm over time. I honestly,
I've absolutely loved talking to you today. I think that
you're a very interesting, lovable guy. Thank you for being
so generous and talking to me, but also thanks for
signing up to Survivor and and being in it to
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play hard and have I'll be back.
Speaker 3 (20:06):
I'll be back. Don't you worry.
Speaker 2 (20:08):
You've watched you terminated movies.
Speaker 3 (20:14):
Look after you some.
Speaker 2 (20:17):
Enjoy the chats with everyone.
Speaker 3 (20:18):
Yeah, bye, guys,
It's in the news today, but it was actually on
TV Reload, the podcast last week that light.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Hey, guys, welcome back to TV Reload. I want to
thank you for clicking and downloading on today's episode with Nash,
one of this week's eliminated Australian Survivor players. The second
week saw another very noisy player getting booted, and we
are going to get some hot takes from Nash on
why he was eliminated and what he thinks of the
days that followed. Nash will talk about the idol being
(00:26):
found so early on, and I will ask if that
turned out to be a negative in his eyes. Nash
will share what he thinks about fake crying, and he
will explain the truth behind some of those tears. I
find out about his secret friendship with a past winner
of the show. Everything from Nash's perspective on moments like
Max's advantage, what he really thought of the coven, and
(00:49):
what he thinks he would do differently if he gets
asked back for another season. There's actually so much to
talk about, as per usual, So sit back and relax, guys,
as we unpack the wonderful of Australian Survivor Brains Versus
Braun Series two, which is back this Sunday night. How
I and Ash are you well?
Speaker 3 (01:08):
I'm great. I am so happy. I'm great. I'm feeling good.
I'm really pumped.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
It must be really weird when you're sort of not
used to being on television and then all of a
sudden watching yourself on television in a high pressure environment
like Survivor.
Speaker 3 (01:22):
Yeah, one hundred percent it is.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
It's weird having everything all around you, but you tend
to get used to it and just they become, you know, invisible.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
This is all permeating for you, I guess, and it's
probably all starting to land. But in some ways you
might be one of the more polarizing players that we've
seen in Survivor. You know, you were very loud with
your gameplay and very deliberate.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
I'm a very loud person in general. I mean, I
love to entertain. I love to make people smile. I
love to crack jokes and make bad situations into jokes
because you know, small makes people happy.
Speaker 3 (01:57):
Laugh to makes people happy, you know, I mean, And
that's the time person I am.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
But yes, when it comes down to business, I can
be serious and I can pretty much you know, saw
you what I need to sell you and if it works,
it works, you buy and it worked out.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
You know, does sales work? Does it translate to survivor
what do you think?
Speaker 1 (02:13):
Look definitely not because there's so many conversations going around.
It's probably that was probably my hardest time and sales
and my whole life. I've been in sales for twenty
years and selling yourself and survivor. It's crazy because you're
with these guys twenty four hours, seven days a week.
Speaker 3 (02:27):
You know that they're.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
Seeing everything around your own sales. You can really, you know,
do what you need to do, exit and just it
leaves it in there.
Speaker 3 (02:34):
But they see who you talk to.
Speaker 1 (02:36):
You know. It's not like you can hide away and
make these little conversations and go to the next door.
Speaker 3 (02:41):
And go to the next door. So it was very,
very hard. I think I done well.
Speaker 1 (02:46):
There's a lot I need to learn, obviously, you know,
being in that situation.
Speaker 3 (02:49):
In that environment. You know there's a little.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
Bit of sell techniques I should have really used. I
should have done a couple of little things differently. But
you know, the main thing I realized is people were entertained.
The guys played from straight away. I felt like they
were a bit intimidated from the beginning, which was a
bit exciting.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
You know.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
Chaos was fun, you know, like looking at the Brains team,
I'm like, oh, that would have been so fun to
be on there and see what we could have done here.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
I mean, my favorite thing that I found out this
week about you was your history with last year's winner, Ferris.
I mean, obviously I'm a huge first fan, so I
saw you on his podcast. Good on him forgetting you
first and having exclusive But I was like, did he
train you? And did you not listen?
Speaker 3 (03:35):
So just I'll give you a bit of intol.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
Yes he did, and King George of Bankson's was a
good friend of mine because he lives.
Speaker 3 (03:42):
Only down the road.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
So yes, they gave me a lot of do's and don'ts,
and you know a bit of.
Speaker 3 (03:47):
Down the toilet one hundred percent. I did, I am
who I am? You know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (03:56):
Yes, maybe a little bit too much on the game.
I should have really really being me, It would have
probably really played to my advantage. But obviously, being in
that scenario, being a survivor and everything's just going to
make judgment straight away and look sometimes that were the
wrong ones. Sometimes with the good ones, you just don't know.
And how many times did you make the right judgments?
(04:17):
In survivor means nothing toil, you know, the final votes
ridden down.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
It's interesting about you talking about being meat when you
got you know, should I be more meat? Where I
felt like I was yelling at the TV screen watching
you when you said, you know, I can cry on tap.
You know, so you put the waterworks on and you
were sort of manipulating people. I agree to a certain
extent that you could probably do some of that. But
my biggest concern is they might have believed you right.
(04:43):
They might have actually believed every tear and sympathized with you.
But when you are lying about something like that, it's
human nature to second guess that person. And I wondered
whether or not by pretending to do things like that
it made people put a target on your back. What
do you think?
Speaker 3 (04:58):
So I'll give you a bit of an insight in cry. Okay,
it was a genuine cry.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
That was my birthday that day, Oh, happy birthday for them,
thank you. So I obviously was pretty emotional that day.
I was missing my kids. It was my birthday, but.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
Say that, Nash. Don't say I'm crying and I'm pretending
to cry. That's we need to call you out.
Speaker 3 (05:18):
Look, it's you take it to the advantage, you know.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
But you were crying because you were genuinely upset. You
were not upset that day.
Speaker 1 (05:25):
Yes, and it means that I could bonusly get these
guys to maybe film me a little bit more to
my advantage.
Speaker 3 (05:32):
Why not.
Speaker 2 (05:33):
I'm looking at you right now and I'm enjoying you
right now more than I'm enjoying and enjoyed you on
the show. You are a likable, lovable character. You're really
are on the show, it kind of looked like a
kid maybe had too much sugar at a birthday party,
and it kind of made it hard to relate to you.
It was kind of like, calm down, Nash.
Speaker 3 (05:52):
I agreed.
Speaker 1 (05:53):
I think you only saw bits and pieces of Nash
on Sah. You didn't see a lot of the back
and stuff of the real real Nash.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
But I'm getting it from you right now. I've been
talking to you for five minutes and I'm getting the
real Nash and I'm loving it. I'm loving you is
the real Nash.
Speaker 3 (06:08):
What you see me of Israel Nash.
Speaker 1 (06:10):
Yes, of course, I can, you know, play out a
lot of the different scenarios and be over the top
and be really.
Speaker 3 (06:17):
Shying quite I can do all of that. But I
think what you what Australia saw was like a really
tiny bit of the real meat.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
You know that the way in which I think anyone
wins these sorts of shows is about staying authentic within themselves,
like there has to be that inner truth behind it.
And whilst I think you did give glimpses of that,
because there was so many different levels to it, I
just felt like it could have been not great for
your gameplay.
Speaker 3 (06:47):
I agree, You're probably right, I should have probably played
the game a little bit more differently.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
Agreed, this person right now is a person that could
win Survivor.
Speaker 1 (06:56):
One hundred percent if the real one hundred percent Nash
without the extra when in yet one hundred definitely one
hundred percent with I think with the genuine people meeting me, Yeah,
I think definitely there there was a lit'll be a
great chance one hundred percent.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
What about this idol because I feel like you got
the idol the fastest in history, and I'm pretty sure
that's the tagline but like it didn't work to your advantage,
because if you get an idol, you should hide at
or an actual fact. You got this idol and used
it on display, and that's a choice. But I think
that howd that not have happened? Howd you not have
found that idol in the first episode? I think you
would still be there now.
Speaker 3 (07:30):
I feel like you're wrong in that.
Speaker 1 (07:32):
Being at my weight level within the Bronze team, I
wanted to show these guys that, hey, just because I'm
the biggest in the group and not the fittest and
not the fastest, I can play this game too, so
I'm ready to play. I wanted to also want to
show I'm okay, I've got an idol. I'm playing a
fair game.
Speaker 3 (07:49):
I'm not hiding it.
Speaker 1 (07:50):
Let's see who's were ready to play with me, you know,
Let's see who's willing to look Puckinash. You know what,
we appreciate your show us to your idol. We respect
that it was a completely different reaction. Obviously, term they might.
Speaker 3 (08:01):
Respect that I've showed them I've got an idol.
Speaker 2 (08:03):
Yeah. I hate asking people about regrets though, but do
you think that there's any regrets over that? Decision.
Speaker 3 (08:09):
Of course there is one hundred percent Like I mean,
it's great for TV, but for gameplay, I assumed it
might do a little bit different and get a different reaction,
but obviously did enough. Felt like people were instantly scared.
And what do you do? You know, it's a choice
you make on the spot, and whether it was a
bad or a good one, Like if we found out
(08:29):
what it was, you know what I mean, it still
gave me another you know, eight nine days after that.
But look, maybe not even playing the idol at my
exit would have been a good play.
Speaker 1 (08:38):
But she was didn't know if I had sold Morgan
and Kate enough. Obviously, when I looked up Morgan, she
put her head down, and that worried me a little bit.
I knew I had Kate ready to go, but Morgan
putting her head down, I was like, you know what.
Speaker 3 (08:51):
I'm not going home with an idol. Let me just
play it.
Speaker 1 (08:53):
I fought enough for us to get enough votes out
of her so she doesn't go home because she was
my closest and Kandy was just the only person socially
that I just felt didn't connect with anyone, or I
wouldn't break a patch up that was just what it was.
And I didn't connect with her. I mean, we never
really had a chance to connect them. She was the
first easiest name I could go for.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
When you were also claiming that you threw that puzzle,
there were so many people on the Facebook group saying, yeah, right,
you threw the puzzle, you just weren't good at it.
What was the truth then with that? Were you actually
trying to throw that or did you just try and
claim that you threw it afterwards?
Speaker 1 (09:31):
I don't think I could have made it any more obvious.
All actually was literally pretty much sit on the floor
and wait for noon and to finish the puzzle. I
didn't help that all with the puzzle, Okay I didn't.
I was the only way I could throw this challenge.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
Well, it's interesting because you come out on a Monday
and there was still more episodes to come. Are you
and your family still watching the show like you?
Speaker 1 (09:51):
I love obviously, I know everything that's happened, but I
just love the drama that's happening, the actions and how
people where there were se you know, yes, you were safe,
especially last night.
Speaker 3 (10:02):
I did not expect aliy go.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
I mean, come on, do you think the fact that
she went across to the other team and played that.
When she went across to the other side, I thought
that put a huge target on her back. She repeated
way too many things, and she came back and my father,
she's going to go. Next time there's an opportunity to
chop her, they're going to chop her. So, I mean,
it wasn't maybe such as a big surprise to it.
Speaker 3 (10:24):
No, I know that one hundred percent, But I think
that I would probably done the same thing, but I
just probably wouldn't tell the girls.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
Well, I don't understand, Like, this coven thing is great.
They've got such a great team going, but they've been
trying to pull apart their advantage being in a coven
since the day that they decided they were in a coven.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
Like, the problem is, if it's a girl's group, you
can't have two other girls wanting Rich or wanting Max.
Speaker 3 (10:47):
It just doesn't work if it's all girls. You just
took to all girls.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
Okay, do you think that Max played his advantage correctly?
Because I thought that was really fascinating to say.
Speaker 3 (10:56):
Oh I was.
Speaker 1 (10:57):
I was like, okay, my holes is going one hundred percent.
I did not expect Ali to go. I think he
played it real well personally. I think he maybe should
have kept Laura and Current in to get the Miles numbers.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
Yeah, I mean, you could have moved those girls around
just a slight bit and there would have been a
different results. So you know, he had to have been
really sort of putting together the pieces to decide girls
to send.
Speaker 3 (11:25):
Laura.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
Yeah, I think he thought too specific about it. I
thought he thought of the move being let's dissipate the
women's ability, like the coven's ability. I think he was
thinking that. I don't think he was tuned in enough
to where those votes would go if two of them
were gone, you know what I mean, he.
Speaker 3 (11:42):
Had one target.
Speaker 1 (11:43):
He just that was all it was in his attack, attack, attack,
and let's just hope it works.
Speaker 2 (11:49):
And you know what, when it doesn't work and you
get close like that, you really only get one shot.
And I'm going to tell you I know nothing about
what's going to happen, but I'm going to say he
took his one shot at Miles, and if history repeats itself,
I think that's not going to work in Max's favor.
I feel like that's going to be really hard.
Speaker 1 (12:05):
To because someone's about to turn and there again that's
what I think as well.
Speaker 3 (12:09):
That might happen, but who knows, who knows.
Speaker 1 (12:13):
You know, it might become a friendship after and they
move on and go pretty far together.
Speaker 3 (12:18):
You just don't know. It's survival.
Speaker 1 (12:19):
I mean, people turn Look at the girls love each other,
we're best friends forever, and they're breaking apart, you know,
like people turn on.
Speaker 3 (12:26):
Everyone, you know. I mean, it's just really you got
to just save yourself in the end, and it's what's
best for you.
Speaker 2 (12:30):
Why didn't they turn on Max though?
Speaker 1 (12:32):
Why didn't they turn on Max? I think Max was
just a person they want to keep.
Speaker 3 (12:36):
I think it was good entertainment. Okay, I think it
was good entertainment.
Speaker 1 (12:40):
Sometimes you make judgments on who you really want to
wake up next to.
Speaker 3 (12:44):
In the morning.
Speaker 2 (12:44):
Uh huh.
Speaker 1 (12:45):
You know, I think you know, for me Zen going
if like it would have I would never vote for
Zen because I would enjoy you know, nice we sleep
together with crack jokes, we have a laugh, and we
just great things. I wouldn't have voted forever for Jesse
because me and him would can we make you know,
great content with being each other?
Speaker 3 (13:03):
We do crazy things.
Speaker 1 (13:05):
Sometimes your judgments really affect you in a way because
you've actually gained a relationship and probably you know what,
when it comes down to it, if it becomes someone
I'm really close to, for example, Ursula, yes I loved
hanging out with her and everything, and then someone yes
I'm still close to, But can I you know, can
I go with Adam for another day because is a
really good friend of mine and we connect. Yeah, you
(13:26):
know what, I can get rid of them, But I
couldn't go for Usla as much as I know if
she's dogged me. I know, these are kind of things
that go through your head sometimes, you know, Like I
knew that my votse was gunning for me and she
had to save herself. I really wish my tribe just
like my alliance p D. Christino, so just believed in
me a little bit, because I know, I know for
a fact, if they just work with me a little bit,
(13:48):
we could have convinced one or two people and the
game would have changed completely.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
If you could pick one person that you didn't work
hard enough on in your team to try and stick around, well,
who would that person be?
Speaker 3 (13:58):
Yeah? If I flipped Ben's it was. It was a
no brain.
Speaker 1 (14:03):
I would never gone home if I flipped, Ben Jesse
would have flipped and then the rest is history. But
it's just I think the Bronze were just mainly braun
strong brawn muscles. We're keeping the must league, We're keeping
the fittest, you know. And I'm like, think about the future, Like,
you know, not every game is about strength and stuff
(14:24):
like that. Think about the future. Just think about who's
going to wipe you out later. So I thought a
little bit different. They think a little bit different. Yeah,
I thought really early in the game. They thinking later
on the game. You'll see what happens later on the game.
And whether I say is right or wrong, we'll soon
to find out.
Speaker 2 (14:42):
Do you reckon that if you've got us to go
back on the show, we would get the same as
what we got this time, Like, how much do you
think I returned to this format would show a different
side to you or do you think?
Speaker 3 (14:53):
Look, if I was on the brain Steam, I think
you would have seen a different.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
Nash okay bringing it up. But I still I'm sitting
here with you today and I'm like, this is the
sort of person I'd be making alliances with one hundred percent.
Speaker 1 (15:05):
I think if you commit to me, I will make
sure you're family for life.
Speaker 3 (15:10):
Look, obviously someone's got to be stabborn in the back,
but you'll get.
Speaker 1 (15:13):
Stup in the back knowing that I'd done it out
of my heart and not because I hate you.
Speaker 2 (15:18):
Don't get me wrong, you did make good television. I
always like the noisiest, most polarizing players. And when I
started this chat, you're probably like, why are you calling
me polarizing? You being negative? I'm not. I actually think
that you know you only get one shot to be
on his shows and you want to make an impact.
I want people to remember you, and that is something
you walk away with.
Speaker 3 (15:34):
So the reason why I've done the podcast with us
and Yeahs and it.
Speaker 2 (15:37):
Was a roast, right, I loved it because of it.
Speaker 3 (15:41):
I wanted Australia to see that Nash is actually a
genuine guy.
Speaker 1 (15:44):
He can take its really heavy, heavy hits like a
lot of people, like even fair.
Speaker 3 (15:49):
I said that I don't think I would have been
able to take what you can take.
Speaker 1 (15:51):
And I took them and I laughed and smiled, and
here I am, I'm still smiling.
Speaker 3 (15:55):
I'm still poking it out because I understand sometimes in
life people need to be picked on to make you know,
someone else laugh or so not everyone's gonna love each other.
Speaker 2 (16:04):
I don't know that. I don't think that that. You
don't need to position yourself like that, you know what
I mean, Like, it's not your job to make people laugh.
You don't have to make yourself small to make that happen.
Speaker 1 (16:13):
Yeah, but I don't feel that I'm making myself small.
I'm obviously being a dad. I want to make my
kids happy. Look, that's something wy you make them smile.
It's just a thing I've always done in my life.
Speaker 3 (16:23):
I'm the only child, and I'm just that funny, lovable,
you know, out of the world character that just likes
to crack jokes out of nowhere, whether they're you know,
the right time on the wrong time.
Speaker 1 (16:32):
But that's just me who I am. If you ask
my family and friends, that's nash Like, yeah, who I am.
I love too smile. I don't like being upset. That's
not a thing that it really built into me, you know.
So it's hard to break me. And when I break,
I really break down, but not an upcent the time.
I'm actually a very happy person.
Speaker 2 (16:48):
Well, I love that this week we got to I
mean the end of this week we got to see
a promo for them dropping their buffs, and I'm like,
I don't know if that's happening early. I don't know
what's going on or wasn't expecting that to happen at
this point. What do you think is going to happen
when we mix these teams up?
Speaker 1 (17:04):
The Bronze are going to struggle, I believe, okay, I
believe the Brons are going to struggle. And if it's
going to be a mixed, mixed team and with the
crazy brains that you've got, I feel like there's going
to be a lot of attack on the brain Brounze, okay,
because they're not built.
Speaker 3 (17:18):
They're not built to do.
Speaker 1 (17:20):
From what I felt, they weren't built enough to do
crazy stuff, and the brains were always doing ready to
do crazy stuff.
Speaker 3 (17:28):
That's how I see it. But who knows? Who knows?
Speaker 2 (17:33):
Yeah, the Surviving Universe, you know, an a dime, you know, the.
Speaker 1 (17:37):
Best game in the world, and it can still come second.
You know, you just don't know.
Speaker 2 (17:40):
I asked that every moment I leave this podcast for
something from behind the scenes, and it's really hard ad
Survivor because there's a lot this is a big program
all around the world. We don't want to sort of
get you in trouble with an NDA. So I thought
about a question to ask you, and I want to know,
give you one piece of advice that George King George
gave you as going into this game, because I'm sure
(18:02):
you asked him, and I'm sure he would have given
you a four and a half hour ted talk on it.
What was the take home?
Speaker 3 (18:10):
It's I can't really say, yes you can.
Speaker 2 (18:13):
That's what we want to know.
Speaker 3 (18:14):
If there's nothing happening, make something happen.
Speaker 2 (18:17):
Okay, I love that. That's a good one.
Speaker 1 (18:19):
That's what If nothing's happening, makes something happen. And I did,
really I did.
Speaker 2 (18:26):
And you know, the producers and everybody would have been
loving it. They would have been right.
Speaker 3 (18:29):
They loved it.
Speaker 1 (18:30):
Producers love the content, look great, TV explosive, season great
from the start.
Speaker 3 (18:35):
A lot of people didn't like.
Speaker 1 (18:36):
You know, really really strategy fans. I know, I've read
the comments. They didn't like it.
Speaker 3 (18:42):
Stubid deers, hey, apply, get on, let me know how
you go. That's what I say. I don't seem behind
a computer and write comments they apply go on, show
me how you play?
Speaker 2 (18:53):
Yeah, yeah, and then we'll talk about it offline.
Speaker 3 (18:55):
We'll talk about it. Let's see.
Speaker 1 (18:56):
You know I made it, you know, out of how
many thousands applied, Yeah, I was chosen. This is the
game I played. Whether it was wrong or right, There
is no right game. The only person who played the
right game is the winner at the end.
Speaker 2 (19:07):
You know, a people of the right comments about these things.
The sad people like no one normal goes and gets
online and writes about someone they've never met before. You know,
whatever they're putting out online says more about them.
Speaker 3 (19:19):
I read it.
Speaker 1 (19:19):
I read that night on my in the first episode
I went through X. I was trending forth on X.
Speaker 2 (19:24):
Why would you do that?
Speaker 1 (19:26):
And I smiled at every single comment I loved because
it doesn't hurt me. It doesn't hurt me. I've born
on national TV. Yeah, being one hundred and five killers
with my shirt off.
Speaker 3 (19:35):
Luck. Do you think that really? Comments? People comments really early?
They don't. I can handle it like it's just words.
Speaker 2 (19:42):
Well, I'm signing up to your ted talk because I reckon,
you've got a lot to You've got a lot to say,
and a really interesting perspective on that. So I have
to let you go because I'm over time. I honestly,
I've absolutely loved talking to you today. I think that
you're a very interesting, lovable guy. Thank you for being
so generous and talking to me, but also thanks for
signing up to Survivor and and being in it to
(20:04):
play hard and have I'll be back.
Speaker 3 (20:06):
I'll be back. Don't you worry.
Speaker 2 (20:08):
You've watched you terminated movies.
Speaker 3 (20:14):
Look after you some.
Speaker 2 (20:17):
Enjoy the chats with everyone.
Speaker 3 (20:18):
Yeah, bye, guys,
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