January 24, 2025 • 40 mins
Hi Guys, welcome back to TV Reload. Thank you for clicking or downloading on today’s episode with Alana Mclean… our housewife aficionado.
We have another delicious episodes for you this week. The eighth episode of Beverly Hills season 14 is called a Perfect Storms Out and while we had prepared ourselves for a 'LVP style walk out' - the audience quickly realised that Kyle’s break was nothing more than an ad break. With her really only being gone for a hot second.
- We discuss the fall out from Kyle reading those texts to Garcelle, Sutton and Erika. What kind of ammunition that will give the likes of the Kyle New sayers.
- I will get Alana’s perspective on Bozema place in making Kyle read those messages to Dorit.
- We will address Erika’s awkward position of being forced to pick a side.
- You are going to get plenty of speculation on the real reason Kyle is pissed with Dorit.. What PK must be thinking of Dorit continuing to defame his character and how we feel Porsche getting a Portia for her sweet 16th
There is so much to talk about with so many inside revelations. So sit back and relax as we unpack the wonderful world of the RHOBH season 14!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
It's in the news today, but it was actually on
TV Reload the podcast last week that liy. Hey, guys,
welcome back to TV Reload. I want to thank you
for clicking and downloading on today's episode with Alana MacLean
my Housewife Officionato, we have another delicious episode fore you
this week. The eighth episode of Beverly Hills season fourteen
is and was called a perfect storms out, and while
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we had prepared ourselves for an LVP style walkout, the
audience quickly realized that Kyle's break was nothing more than
an ad break because Kyle is not going to be
taking any time off from the show. We will discuss
the fallout from Kyle reading those texts of Garcels Sudden
and Erica are chuck E cheese and what kind of
ammunition that will give the likes of the Kyle naysayers.
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I will get Alana's perspective on Bozeman's place in making
Kyle read those text messages to Derete. We will address
Erica's awkward position of being forced to pick a side
between Kyle and Derete. To get plenty of speculation on
the real reason Kyle is pissed with Dereet, what pe
Came must be thinking of Dereet continuing to defame his character,
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and how we feel about Porsche getting a Porsche for
her sweet sixteenth. There is so much to talk about,
as per usual, with so many inside revelations from our perspective.
So sit back and relax as we unpack the wonderful
world of the Real Housewives of Beverly Hill's Season fourteen,
episode eight. How are you?
Speaker 2 (01:30):
I am good? I can't believe it is long weekend
time and it's been so hot here. Oh my god,
we've had like forty forty two forty three, so the
beach hair is back in full swing.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
Do you have anyone in your life that appreciates photos
and selfies as much as I do?
Speaker 2 (01:46):
Like, yes, everyone I know, Otherwise I wouldn't be friends
with them.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
I just love them. And I like Bendaby sitting on
the couch and he'll be like, why are you show
you photos of Elana? I'm like, don't you think that
this is a really pretty dress? This orange looks really
good and like the buttons in the middle, And then
it's like, you're way too invested, Like I'm invested in
you the way that he's invested in like kind libit.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
An actual person with social standing.
Speaker 1 (02:12):
Yeah, I get it, I get it.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
But look, you know, feel free anyone send me some photos,
I mean, not like nude ones. I don't want those.
Don't slide those in at any point, thank you.
Speaker 1 (02:24):
Have you accidentally ever sent a nude to anyone? No?
Speaker 2 (02:26):
Do you know what. I've never taken a nude photo.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
Oh.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
Ever, I feel like I've taken one like in a
bra or something. I've never taken and sent a nude
photo ever, because I just I always thought that's that's
the pr brain that I have. I'm like, once that's
on your camera roll, once that's out in the world,
you never know.
Speaker 1 (02:46):
I think what's interesting about Ben and I have been
together for fifteen years was that we outdate the apps
like Grinder and things like that. So most of my
gay friends have got nudes that have been leaked, especially
if they're in the public eye. But that's because they're
on those apps and they take photos where Ben and
I we're only sending them to each other. And to
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be honest with you, after fifteen years, I don't think
I've sent Ben a nude in the last ten Yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
You're like, I've already seen it, sent me something worse.
I don't want to see it.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
I want to ask you about something to start off
the podcast, and that is the rumors about Rebel Wilson's
wife being asked to be on the Real Housewives next season.
They are talking about the possibility of having an Australian accent.
That was apparently a part of the brief. They want
an Australian accent in Beverly Hills who lives in the US,
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in Beverly Hills or La roundabout that you think would
be a good actress on Real Housewives.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
Well, I said this to you. This was my hot tip,
was Isla Fisher. Amazing Isla Fisher. I'm putting on on
her because I'm pretty sure she's still living there, isn't
she Obviously she has the US connection being married to
Sasha Baron Collin for all those years, so people know her.
It's not like an Australian that's She's been in some
of those huge movies that you know are still so
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famous now. So I'm going to put money on her.
Do you think it's Rebel's wife? What's her name? I
don't even know her name.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
I feel like I should have put that down in
the note, because that is an obvious thing to talk about.
I never even knew that she was married to someone
of any sort of relevance. But there was that controversy
with Hugh Sheridan because Hugh Sheridan introduced her to introduced
Rebel to Rebel's now wife, and then he didn't get
invited to the wedding, so they had a massive barney.
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But I'm like, who is Rebel's wife? Like, who is Why.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
Wouldn't they just choose Rebel? Why wouldn't they put her
on instead of the wife because she's so well known?
Speaker 1 (04:41):
But Rebel's like an A list Hollywood actor.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
Really, Like she hasn't done that much at the moment,
is she She could squeeze it in. I'm sure. I'm
sure she could make time.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
I hope she's busy enough to not be listening to
our podcast. That's all I can say.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
She ain't listening, babe, listening. Not even our mums are listening.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
So anyway, this is a great episode. I as much
as it was a good episode, they really did lead
us to something that didn't end up being true because
there was so much discussion about Kyle walking off camera
and maybe taking a break for a couple of episodes,
but that didn't happen. Do you feel a little bit cheated?
Speaker 2 (05:20):
Well, when all those rumors were surfacing, I was like,
surely not. Like she's been on the show so long,
she is still the queen Bee, Surely she's not taking
time off. So I was finding it a bit hard
to believe. But yes, I mean it was the perfect
example of clickbait. It was. It got us on all
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the online social trailers, it got all the forums chatting.
Everyone was really invested in wanting to know what was
going to happen. So I think it achieved what it
needed to. But yeah, I mean, the only other side
to that is that it creates a bit of an
anti climax when it doesn't play out that way.
Speaker 1 (05:56):
When we saw the preview for next week's episode and
she's still on camera, I was like, oh, so we've
all just been believing the lie. What I think made
this episode good and what makes me enjoy reality television
is the point where they break the fourth wall that
to me is always really delicious, and they're explicitly told
not to do it. Bozeman said to Andy Cohen on
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Watch What Happens Live that she was told you can't
do that, and did Kyle do that because Kyle is
an og and she can get away with it? Like
is that her throwing her weight around? How is she
allad to get away with that where no one else is.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
What was your reaction to Kyle kind of breaking the
fourth wall in tonight's episode and getting out of there. Well,
first of all, I thought that was a no, no,
okay right, and then it was a yes yes from.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
Her, Okay, okay. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
I'm like, look, I'm just here to observe what's going
on and Kyle as I see it. Yeah, I don't know.
I feel like over the last couple of years they
have had moments of that, and I mean, Denise Richards
with the Bravo, Bravo, Bravo, they have to cut that
if they want me show. I want to talk to
Chris Cullen. If you watch the show, you know he's
one of the producers. So I feel like they have
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had little sprinklings of those moments where they have broken
the fourth wall. But yes, this was sort of different
in that you actually fully saw the cameras, you saw
the setup. I don't mean that we already knew. I
think that's what you're taking it as. I'm not talking
about that. I'm talking about this, okay, which I can't
say because we were filming and production. Some fact. Sometimes
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when they're in a filming scene where there's reflection or
something in their sunglasses, I always try and look to
see if I can see the cameras.
Speaker 1 (07:37):
Why do we love this so much?
Speaker 3 (07:38):
Like?
Speaker 1 (07:38):
Why do we want to see them?
Speaker 2 (07:40):
Veristic?
Speaker 1 (07:40):
Is that what it is? We were like, we're already
getting enough, We're already getting their full live stories and
following their marriage breakups and everything, and yet here we
are peering at the TV just to get a glimpse
of the cameras or the booms, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
Like, well, I think it's interesting because you know, it's
interesting just to see how many people are involved in
a production like this. I mean, when they walk into
a restaurant, they're literally walking in with like three cameras,
two sound people lighting, like it's a full operation. I mean,
hats off to everyone else that sits in the background
of all these public settings and just kind of carries
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on about their business. I would just be like, oh
my God, I would be glued to what is going on.
Speaker 1 (08:18):
Well, we're a little bit ahead of ourselves already, which
what's on brand Prass. We have to go back to
where the episode starts, and we really are still in
the thick of these messages being revealed. So you've had
Kyle last week read out messages to Garcel Sudden and Erica,
which has put her in the shit because it's now
obvious that it's not memes and jokes, you know.
Speaker 2 (08:39):
As memes memes. As Tilly said, it's more than mens.
It's more than memes. Memes means he sends memes.
Speaker 3 (08:49):
I feel like he was texting her more than memes
and she's down playing, like, oh.
Speaker 2 (08:54):
He's texting me memes, bro, it's like.
Speaker 1 (08:56):
Memes, memes mes. Side note when Bose was asked on
Watch What Happens Live who has the best fashion on
the series of Real Housewives of Beverly Hills, and she
said Jennifer Tilly. I had to smack my TV. I
was like, is the TV broken? Who has the best
fashion sense? Jennifer Tilly?
Speaker 2 (09:17):
That is such an odd I haven't heard those comments.
That's an odd choice, particularly when you're friends with Derete
and Durite hangs her hat on being the fashionista of
the group. I mean that's almost like throwing a little grenade.
Speaker 1 (09:30):
I think Dereitt would have been upset with that. She
was sitting in the audience with Watch what Happens Lives.
I know, I'm actually really enjoying Derete's look the most
this season than any other season. I'm loving her hair color,
I'm loving the length. I'm loving a bit of the
waves and the hair that we saw in this episode.
Gone to the days where she's got a giant turd
hanging off the back of her head that probably cost
a million dollars, Like she's.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
Really paid it back, she had everything back, Yes, but look,
I mean she is, She's going through a hard time
and probably you know, getting dressed up in couture isn't
high on the agenda list at the moment, so you know,
fair play. But it was, I mean, it was a
compelling episode. I think the fact that they set it up,
like with Bose having this serenity party as the juxtaposition
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for you know, the craziness, the the intense scenes that
were about to ensue. And I love when Jennifer Tilly
said to that massage guy, this is the calm before
all the yelling. And he said, they're going to yell,
and she's like, oh yeah, they'll be yelling the quiet
period before the shouting state.
Speaker 1 (10:35):
Will be shouting.
Speaker 2 (10:38):
And then there was just that little flashback those two
massous guys were talking to each other. He's like, that
lady was right.
Speaker 1 (10:47):
That lady from the Chucky movie is right.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
She was right.
Speaker 1 (10:51):
I thought about Bozeman and Bozman setup of this day
Spar and it was really the sequel to Sutton's sister
and you know health, you know idea, you know, she
was really leading off the back of that. This kind
of did become the sequel to that, which I think
was bigger and more disastrous this time. These women being
invited to these events, and do you reckon that the
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producers are saying to them today, we're setting this up
for this particular conversation. Do you reckon they walked them
into a day spar scenario, you know, as a bit
of a ruse to then have them finally have a
big explosion and have the space for maybe Kyle and
to eat to take the conversation outside.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
Well, I mean, I don't know if they were necessarily
going to predict that that was going to happen, although
I did definitely feel like it was deliberate that Bo's
opened that can of worms because Kyle was sitting there.
She was like, oh, it's a lovely day. And then
she was like, Hey about that text, Why couldn't you
read it out to me? I think you should read
it out to the group. She really started that, and
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she she drew her battle lines very clearly to be like,
I'm with Derete, you need to show the text. Here
we go, and that is basically what started everything. The
fireworks commenced from there. When it comes to a conversation
that Kyle is having with PK No tell de okay, well.
Speaker 1 (12:12):
Let me ask you this.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
They'll guarantees. Can you read the text? Please read it
to you?
Speaker 1 (12:18):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (12:20):
I don't know why bos is taking u upon herself
to tell me that I need to share my messages
with the.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
Group, And Kyle basically threw it back on the piece
to camera to say, why is it Boseman's business to
ask me this? And it did have the viewers probably
asking the same question if anyone is going to keep
pushing this narrative and bring this topic up today? Is
it Bozman's job. It's really got nothing to do with
Bozman except that she's now besties with Deret. Like if
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anyone was going to bring up this conversation, I just
didn't think that Bozman was the right person to do it.
Speaker 2 (12:55):
I think it was definitely like, let's get her in there,
let's get her front, sent her with the drama, and
obviously us as viewers, we have seen this relationship strengthen
with Dereat from the confessionals. We're seeing all the other scenes,
but you have to remember when they're filming this, they're
not knowing any of that that's happening in the background.
I think Kyle would have thought she was quite neutral,
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and I think Kyle would have thought, oh, we're friendly.
You know, I've given her the flowers after surgery, I've
gone to visit her. I think she was quite taken
aback that Bose was like, Nah, this ain't cool, and
it really started from there. But what I also found
was so interesting was that shift in dynamics where it
almost seemed like all the other women were turning on
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Kyle and she was realizing that in real time that
these women aren't sticking up for me at all. Everyone
has gone completely silent, everyone who's obviously thinking this text
is way worse than what she is thinking it is,
and even someone like Sutton who we saw too. I mean,
this just goes to Sutton's volatility. But Sutton, who was
screaming at Dreat saying we're not even friends, she wasn't
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even sticking up for Kyle in that moment. The only
person that stuck up for Kyle in that moment was Erica.
Speaker 3 (14:08):
The rest of these women are pressuring Kyle, almost accusing
her of having done something wrong. She has not done
anything wrong by communicating with a friend. Let me go
see this friend of mine. Durt and Kyle need to
have this conversation, not us fantasizing and filling in the blank.
Speaker 2 (14:29):
And last week we were the ones saying Erica has
chosen team to read. So there is a lot of
shifting ground here beneath.
Speaker 1 (14:36):
Us, well, Gus, Allen Suddener, obviously just the Witches of Eastwick.
They're sitting there with their cauldron. It's not their storyline,
but they are absolutely enjoying putting the little ingredients in
to make it bubble away. And make this more of
a meal for Kyle. I don't know what their problem is.
I think that they've both come to this series laid
in the piece around the era of this is Kyle's
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show or I guess that still is the era in
some ways, And maybe there's a bounty on being able
to overthrow an og like that. Maybe that's their mo
is that they are like, we're here to look for
the cracks and make them bigger.
Speaker 2 (15:13):
Well, we definitely saw that with that conversation that then
happened later with Gussell and Sutton, and Sutton saying, which
they had promoted heavily on the season trailer at the
start of the season, I am not going to bow
down at the altar of Kyle Richards.
Speaker 3 (15:27):
She thanks, it's okay to storm out and leave this group,
and I am not going to bow down at the
altar of Carl.
Speaker 2 (15:38):
So it'd be interesting to see how much further she
takes that. What exactly does that look like? What does
that mean? Are they going to have a huge beef
or is she just going to basically say you're not
allowed to walk out? But the walkout, I mean, what
did you make of that? Because to me, when I'm
watching that, I was just getting such deja vus of
Lisa vander Pump season nine or whatever it was. When
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Kyle went over confrontedly, some was basically like, this is
what everyone thinks. We think you're in the wrong. It's shady,
you're almost caught out. You need to admit it. And LVP,
as we know, was so vehemently denying that she had
any involvement. She wasn't wrong, and then she stormed off,
never to be seen again. And aside from the fact
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that we did see Kyle again, but that whole scene
to me played out exactly like that. She was caught.
She was trying to double down. Everyone was going, Babe,
you're caught. You're not right. You need to just admit
that you were wrong and let the whole thing go.
But her storming off like that, that was really a
case of she can't handle this fire.
Speaker 1 (16:39):
At this point, though, I am starting to think that
if I was Kile, I think I'd probably just be like,
you know what, dear, I'm not that close to you,
and it's starting to feel like our values are not aligned.
This isn't about being a bad girlfriend. This is about
what is serving me and PEK sending me some funny
messages while I'm going through a divorce is kind of
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what I need right now. And I don't need this
so well, dret and everybody's chasing after her for some
accountability of not being a good girlfriend. I just don't
think she's done anything wrong. I think they're making more
out of this than they really need to.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
Well, I just think if she said that though, that
the thing with these what though she said I don't
want to be friends with you to read, I'm actually
better friends with PK. I have been over the final
six months. We have talked about things on a deeper level.
It is more than means and jokes, and we've had
a friendship. The fact that she is lying about that
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is what is getting her into the shit. And it's
the same thing that got Denise in the ship with
the Brandy text. And we've seen it. We've seen this
play out before, the fact that they all preach ownership
and honesty and Kyle has been a massive ringleader of
that approach, and she has been very very aggressive towards
people that haven't done that, and that is what they're
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pissed at her about. Is this hypocrisy that she preaches
that and the fact that she's not owning what she said.
She's changed the story and we've never had the real
reason about why she was angry at Duret when we
came into this season. She has been scrambling. She never
gave us a reason, and now she's trying to cover
this whole thing up. It's strange.
Speaker 1 (18:15):
Is it making you think that the reason why Morgan
Wade isn't a part of this series has got something
to do with Deret and that Dereit might have done
something to push this Morgan wave narrative at a positioned
that maybe Kyle's uncomfortable with. Because the only thing that
makes sense to me right now about something that Kyle
would be hiding and not putting on camera is kind
of obvious to me that Morgan Wade's name is not
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being mentioned.
Speaker 2 (18:37):
Well, that could be a theory that checks out. That
could be a theory that checks out if Morgan was like,
I don't really want you being friends with Dereat and
then Kyle's sort of backed off in that sense. But
I mean, I don't really understand why you'd still keep
issuing a friendship with Dret's husband. If that was the case,
you know, it's I don't know. The whole thing's a
little bit weird. It's almost like she's tried to pursue
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the friendship with PK. Moore to piss to read off.
There's something in that equation though, whether it's the Morgan
thing or there's something else. So she's pissed at the
rumors that Dured had a thing for mo or whatever
it is. But there's definitely something that we've said this
before that is fueling this to such a level where
she is so pissed at to read. I still believe
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I think she wants to read to cut the friendship off.
I think Kyle is almost to the point where with
this text thing she wants to eat to get so
angry at her that Durret is the one that says, well,
she's not my friend. I've cut her off. But it
gets Kyle out of having to look like the one
that pulled the pin, and in turn, she gets to
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look like the victim.
Speaker 1 (19:42):
Well, it's a strategy on the chessboard that we've seen
with any franchise of this show. It seems to be
what women want to do in this scenario is that
they don't want to be made accountable for their honest opinion,
and they usually place it underneath someone else's care. Get
someone else to shut that person down, get them to
bury themselves. You know, that seems to be what they
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want to do. And maybe that's because they've been on
these shows long enough to know that a big part
of being a reality TV personality is keeping your fans
on side. Maybe Kyle thinks that she won't keep her
fans on side if she veers too far away from
what she's already been projecting. You know, maybe she's terrified
about and I don't want to speculate her about her
being a lesbian, because I actually think speculating about somebody's
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sexuality is kind of wrong. That to me, is a
bit gross. But whatever Kyle is struggling with, there is
a good possibility that she doesn't feel like she can
do that because she's worried she's going to lose her audience.
Speaker 2 (20:38):
Well, I mean, it's either thinking that she might lose
her audience or it's assuming that her audience is so
right or die at this point that she can just
play the cards however she wants. And she's expecting a pass,
so I'm not too sure which one it is. But
another sort of compelling part of this whole conversation was
where Erica was sitting in amongst all of it all,
because we assumed that even though she was trying to
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be friends with them both, she was seeing Durrett's point more.
She wasn't being, you know, overt about it, but she
was sort of saying, look, I think I was in
the wrong here. That was sort of the undertone to it.
And then in this episode that whole situation flipped. She
publicly stood up for Kyle in that moment, and then
we saw the continuation of that at the day spar
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where Durrett was really starting to put her under the grill,
and she, you know, she was saying, well, you don't
have enough proof that that's what's happened on the text.
Speaker 3 (21:32):
Durit may not need Prue, but I need Prue. And
you know what, I was married to a trial lawyer
for over twenty years, and guess what you taught me
a few things.
Speaker 1 (21:42):
You gotta have proof, man, you do on its.
Speaker 3 (21:45):
Face to me, it could read two ways. Of course,
Kyle's message sounds suspicious, So what I'm choosing to believe
my friend that I've known for a decade.
Speaker 1 (21:58):
I think it's amazing how Erica has been able to
be throughout this because it was not really sitting well
with me with these storylines where we kept seeing Erica
and Derete together and having these conversations, like I just
felt like these women don't really seem to have the
same values. Like Erica looked like she was just trying
to be kind to a friend who that she thought
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was a bit duffed, and so she was like, yes,
I understand you're right with this, but the overall picture
is no, No, you're kind of going off on the
wrong direction, I think. And the one thing that Kyle
wouldn't do to Erica, which dret did in this episode,
and that is ask her basically you need to pick aside,
and I don't think that was I felt so uncomfortable
watching that scene where Dereit really went after Erica and
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Erica had to say, alrighty, I'm going to bow out now,
you know, if you're going to start campaigning for me
to pick aside and say one person is truly right,
one person is truly wrong, that's the point where I'm
going to have to step out where she can break
it down and she can say to Durete, yeah, Kyle
was wrong here. She can say to you know, Kyle, yes,
Direct's wrong here, and say bits and pieces. But she's
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never really been told pick the friend. And I thought
Direct doing that was really immature.
Speaker 2 (23:10):
It was sort of strange because she ended up giving
her that hypothetic called the end. She said, but if
this was true, if she was texting her about other
things besides memes and jokes and it was about our relationship,
you know, would you be okay with that? And Erica said,
well no, but she has got herself really stuck in
the middle of it. And it was interesting when Dret said,
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I think Erica is scared of Kyle, because Erica was
the one that used to pick out that everyone was scared,
including to read of Lisa vander Pump, and that they
were prepared to say or do anything or bend any
which way they needed to bend to avoid the wrath
of Lisa vander Pump.
Speaker 1 (23:48):
What do you think do you think that Erica's scared
of Kyle, because I don't.
Speaker 2 (23:52):
I don't think she's scared of Kyle. I don't think
that's what it was. But I think she would be
scared of being called a hypocrite by the fan because it's,
as she said in her confessional, this is what happened
to me. People assumed things about the legal case, people
assumed things about her involvement in the embezzlement scandal with
Tom Girardi. They didn't have proof. I was dragged through
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the mud and I had nothing to do with it,
and I've had to fight like a dog to get
my reputation and my social standing back. So if she
went after Kyle without the proof, as she says, I
think people would come for her and said, Kyle's been
a good friend to you, and now you were going
after her without that proof. So I think that is
why she's trying to say to Dret, I can't openly
(24:36):
fully side with you with the facts as they are.
I need more.
Speaker 1 (24:41):
I tell friends to get fucked when they do that
to me, though, Like when friends say to me, oh,
this happens such and such, I'm involved in this drama
and this is how it's gone and this is how
it's gone down. I'm always like, it takes two to tango,
so let's just look at what you're responsible for, and
let's talk about that. Because you can't control another person,
you can only control yourself. So if that person's not
(25:02):
doing what you want them to do, and you keep
shifting and trying to do the right thing by yourself
with what you can control, maybe that friendship's not working,
maybe it's not serving you anymore, Like maybe it's time
to bow out. But when they ask for me to
co sign on their feelings about something that doesn't directly
involve me, that's what I'm out. I'm like, no, no, no,
(25:23):
this isn't about the problem. This is a campaign. This
is about ego, this is about control.
Speaker 2 (25:29):
Well, last week we said we wanted to see a
conversation between Kyle and Darite that was without the other ladies.
We were like, we're done with the group setting, the screening,
the alcohol fueled conversations, you know, like we've seen at
the Viper Room and we've seen at the season premiere.
We got that on this episode. We got that moment
where Durit went outside, followed her down, tried to sit
(25:50):
down and have a quieter, rational conversation, and I mean
it went pretty well in the scheme of things. I
think they were both being quiet logical about it. I
think Kyle's still doubling down to sort of make it
sound like she hasn't spoken about p K and Dearite was,
you know, in her sort of zone of saying, well,
(26:10):
I think you have probably done that because that's what
PK does to everyone. But what is sort of, you know,
a contradiction is that she was calmer having that conversation
with Kyle. Then she was about the conversation with Erica
where she was asking her to sort of choose side.
So I was like, oh, you got to be careful there,
because are you going to go pick another enemy?
Speaker 1 (26:32):
It is to me when I was watching that conversation happened,
it made me think that Kyle genuinely believes her own narrative.
I don't think she's lying. I think she just believes
to be believes the situation to be a certain way.
I don't think she's going I know the truth and
I'm hiding it. I don't think that's what's happening. But
what is happening and what I don't understand, and like,
(26:55):
let's put a big question mark on this is where's
Paul Kemsley? Where's p K while she defames him so hard.
Deret's saying that he turns into a monster like that,
and that Kyle doesn't know who he is. That is
out courageously slanderous and Pik as quiet as a mouse
on social media, while Derete is out there pushing this narrative,
which makes me think that isn't adding up. You know,
(27:17):
Let's just say if Ben and I broke up, and
Ben and I were on a reality TV show, or
say Ben was on a reality TV show and he's
having heart to hearts with his friends and saying that
I was a monster and I did all of these things,
I would be pretty pissed off.
Speaker 2 (27:31):
Oh of course you would be. I mean, whether that's
the case or not. But you know, to Kyle's point,
rightly so, and to your point, we will never know.
We weren't there behind closed doors. I think what has
become so evident is the protection that these women have
given against them for their marriages. Because there was all
(27:52):
the talk about Kyle and Mo and him being you know,
adulterous and whatever. We never got confirmation of that, but
then all of a sudden, broken up Deret lovey dovey
bubble ish, you know, everything's all good. He supports me,
he's helping me with my designs. Rahah blah bla.
Speaker 1 (28:09):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (28:09):
Now he's a monster, he's an alcoholic, all of these things.
Erica with the legal scandal, and then she came out
and said Tom was so mean to her. So it's
very hard for us to take anything they're saying on
face value when it's becoming very evident that they have
protected them and told a very different story over so
many years.
Speaker 1 (28:27):
If any of my friends in their relationships are posting
on Facebook about shmoopy whoopy or woopy whoopy, it's never
smoopy whoopy. If anyone's saying that in front of other people,
then they're trying to prove something that's not real. I
think that there's something very subservient about the dynamics of
the women that they find on these shows. That they
find these men and that they don't probably agree with
(28:48):
everything that they do, but they've been brought up to
be the housewife, you know. They've brought up to protect
their man, protect their family. And I think in some
ways that's probably what all of these women have had
in common, maybe less so Erica Jane with her son
being much older by the time she got together with
old mate. I just think that there's something quite interesting
(29:09):
in those dynamics. I think in Beverly Hills, who're supposed
to present a certain image, and that's what they were
trying to do. You know, I don't necessarily think that
they are trying to cover up for or lying about it.
I think that that's the culture of it. The culture
of it is, you know, don't embarrass yourself by putting
your personal lives or throwing your husband's under the bus
(29:30):
like that.
Speaker 2 (29:30):
Well, we saw Mauricio on this episode and it was
Porta's birthday, and I mean, aside from the fact that
we're buying sixteen year old children one hundred and fifty
thousand dollar cars side note, but you know, we saw
Kyle with all the girls there, Mauricio, Oh, hi, honey,
big hugs and kisses hello. And then we see in
her confessional she was like, you know, I was so
(29:53):
excited about what we built, and now we don't have
each other in that way, we don't have the family
dynamic in the same She was very teary about it.
You can tell that's really taking a toll on her.
But something obviously happened in that relationship towards the end
there to make her you know, Lee, and to make
her make that stand and to blow the whole thing up.
(30:15):
So I feel like maybe there was a point where
she's gone, oh, we might be able to get past
this and get back together. But I think she's realizing
now that's not the case, and I think she's quite
upset by that. But I feel like that's why we
never got told what actually went down there. So I
still think there is a level of protection with these
women against these men.
Speaker 1 (30:34):
Just because it's television doesn't mean it needs to be
as dramatic as you think. I mean, I've got friends
whose relationships have fallen apart because some of the women
have felt like their husbands haven't picked them, They've picked
their jobs over them, they've picked their mates over them.
Maybe there's a chance that Kyle Richard's just got sick
of not being picked by Marizio and he was off
on holidays and golfing and putting other people first. I mean,
(30:56):
marriages have crumbled because of that.
Speaker 2 (30:58):
But she did mention the trust. The only nugget that
we got she said.
Speaker 1 (31:02):
Trust broken because he said he's for Portio's birthday and
then he didn't or maybe trust is broken when he
says I'm going to be there at one of your
white parties and then he doesn't turn up at the
white party because he decided to go and have a
scotch with someone else, you know what I mean, Like, maybe, yeah,
that's true, sick of the fact that he wasn't picking.
Because it's television, we have to go infidelity. Oh it's infidelity.
(31:24):
Oh that's exactly what it is. And I'm not one
hundred percent sure that's what it is because running by
what Erica Jane continuously pushed forward in this episode is
that we don't have proof of anything, you know what
I mean, Like, we're only speculating.
Speaker 2 (31:37):
Yeah, well that's that's definitely the case. And you know,
we're dealing with a cast now that is all single.
I'm classing Bows as that, but her relationships only knew.
But really we're seeing these women in out of thee
their late forties, their fifties, they're starting a second chapter.
They're single. It's a very different, you know, playing field
(31:58):
to what it was when we first watched this show
at the start, where they were all married to very
high profile rich men.
Speaker 1 (32:04):
So I love that dynamic though, Like I think it's
fascinating to see these weeks and it's funny. My mum's
in a relationship in her seventies, you know, and that
is not her forever partner. And I think we need
to see more women on television in their second and
third relationships because we're living longer. And love is an
(32:24):
interesting thing because we all feel like we're deserved it,
and we're all deserved this Disney Happily ever After, but
for so many people that isn't the case. They haven't
found there forever person, although forever person has died. I
think it's important to show women still having new adventures
on television. I think it's important to show the dynamics
of women and about how they've evolved as friends in
(32:46):
their later life. So House was right Now for me
is quite fascinating because apart from the occasional movie like
The Book Club or some movie where you put four
Hollywood has beens together on a book group tour, we
don't necessarily get to see women's day to day and
how they interact.
Speaker 2 (33:06):
And I think what makes that so important is the
fact that when they don't have these relationships anymore. These
female friendships become the core, and that becomes their family.
And that is why when things start shifting and changing
or there's you know, tension or something's happened, it's hitting
on a new level. It's hitting on a new layer.
(33:26):
It's landing differently because you would see me, you know,
as we've watched through the season. Sometimes when those arguments happen,
they go, Okay, well I'm going home to my husband,
and it's sort of like the friendship is secondary. But
when you take the husband and those you know, core
relationships out of the mix, this is what you're left
with and it's in turmoil and it is making these
women either fight or not fight in a different way.
(33:50):
You know. That's where the dereet Erica friendship. I'm surprised
that dere took her to task and was sort of
pushing her to pick aside because I thought, well, you're
in a position where you don't have a lot of
close friends. Eric has been very good to you, and
now you're about to throw a grenade in there that
could blow the whole thing up. So yes, you've got
Bows now as your new friend, but it's a new friendship,
(34:13):
and I sometimes think new friendships are a little bit
like new relationships. It's all fanfare and gloss, and you know,
you sort of have a sort of facade over the
relationship a little bit in those early days because it's
all a bit happy and new and you haven't really
gone through these things yet. So I think putting all
(34:34):
her eggs in the bow's basket, I don't know if
that's a smart move.
Speaker 1 (34:38):
Well, it's really not. And one of the most shocking
things that happened in this episode to me, and I
had to do the double take point in check. Thank
you for the message of you watching this week's episode
and showing Robbie sitting next to you hilarious. But when
I looked over at Ben, I was like, when to
interrupted Garcel while she was having her treatment and really
made that beeline. We have never seen that. And how
(34:59):
bizarre for Dreit to go after Garca like that after
pretending she hasn't existed for four seasons. I think that's
about recruitment. I think that's about recruiting Garsel. And I
find that sort of play amongst female friendships to be
kind of toxic.
Speaker 2 (35:16):
I'm so sorry to disturb this beautiful moment?
Speaker 1 (35:21):
Why is she here right now?
Speaker 3 (35:24):
As far as the other nightman in the vapor room
gotten into screaming match with Yale when you turn around
and asked me.
Speaker 2 (35:32):
How are you doing? Do you mean that genuinely?
Speaker 1 (35:37):
How welcome I are you?
Speaker 2 (35:39):
I think that was definitely a move to get her
in a position she wasn't going anywhere. She was lying
down getting the massage. No one else was around to
interrupt that conversation, and that was definitely like a little
play to become an ally for sure. I think I
thought Garsa was quite disingenuous at the Viber room when
she asked that question. In that moment, I thought, how stupid,
(36:00):
Oh how are you?
Speaker 3 (36:01):
Well?
Speaker 2 (36:01):
Obviously I'm having a screaming match with my friend. I'm
really upset I found out all this information about these
secret text shit is going haywire every which way somethe
was yelling at her. Why would she then, in that
moment have a heart to heart with Garcel and be like, oh,
let's talk about life and my relationship. So I thought
Garcell's question was loaded, But then they sort of seem
to have quite a nice moment. So I'm like, Oh
(36:22):
my god, it's changing again. I mean, the whiplash with
these women and their allegiances is quite crazy.
Speaker 1 (36:29):
It's wild. Coming to the end of this discussion, I mean,
we kind of had to interweave so much because this episode,
whilst it did go to other places, it really did
center around the same theme. I felt like we did
get some answers, like it felt like a mid season moment.
I don't know if you felt the same way, because
then when we got a preview for next week's episode,
I wasn't expecting that. I was expecting to see, you know,
(36:52):
for the next part of Beverly Hills, you know, for
the rest of this season. This is what you're going
to get, and get a glimpse of new looks with
pieces to camera and some new fights, some new storylines emerging.
But we got sort of like a preview to a
generic episode.
Speaker 2 (37:06):
Maybe maybe we might get that next week. I just
I feel like, coming back from a Christmas break, we
already had that two weeks off. I really hope they
just don't put another two weeks in there anytime soon.
I want to watch a couple more before we get
to that point.
Speaker 1 (37:20):
How many Alana mcleans are you giving this episode?
Speaker 2 (37:23):
Oh, this was a good one. I agree. I'm going
to put this right up there. This was a four
point five.
Speaker 1 (37:27):
Yeah, I'm going to give this a four point five.
I'd almost tempt to just get to give it a five,
you know what I mean, Like on the reason why
I would reach for that limit is because I mean
for that height is that I felt like we did
get some answers, we got some resolutions in this, and
we got something a little bit resolved where I felt
like if we hadn't reached that point and I was
(37:48):
still hanging episode to episode with so many questions, I
would have been quite frustrated. Where we've got conflict. We
got Kyle Richard's hair looking fucking fantastic. By the way,
when you gave that car to Porsche.
Speaker 2 (38:01):
Oh that hair was great. I thought you were going
to say the days by day and I was like,
oh no, no, oh no, they had regular, regular hair
when they don't have the fashion moments. And I do
feel a little bit starved. But four and a half
solid episode. I'm liking seeing the shifting dynamics and the friendships,
and I think one thing that I think is very
(38:23):
good with this you know storyline playing out is that
it is involving all the women. I don't think it's
a separate storyline to Tom Girardi and Erica where it's
sort of we're not it's not touching all the women.
This is touching all the women, and I'm here for it.
Speaker 1 (38:37):
Yeah, yeah, I'm here for touching with all the women
apparently PC. Okay, Well, before I go, I just want
to know what are you doing for this long weekend?
Is there? Like? I'm assuming you're not going to wash
your hair?
Speaker 2 (38:49):
Oh, it's it's a salty mess. I might go to
the beach again later. I've got some drinks on. I'm
going to a corporate sweet tomorrow for the basketball. I
don't know anything about the basketball.
Speaker 1 (38:59):
But you're only there for You're there for your fashion
and for your drinks.
Speaker 2 (39:03):
That's what Yeah, And I can do this? Ready? Do
you fit? Is that what they say basketball?
Speaker 1 (39:08):
You're asking You're asking the wrong question. What do I
say to basketball match? As if I'd ever been to one?
Speaker 2 (39:15):
My reference point to a basketball match is Kate Hudson
and Matthew mccallaughey.
Speaker 1 (39:20):
That's it.
Speaker 2 (39:20):
Ten things I hate about you? That's it My reference
point is she looks so cute in that little guernsey jersey.
So I don't know, I.
Speaker 1 (39:28):
Think he gives something a guernsey. I don't think. I
think that's a jersey. Yeah, okay, you look good at
a jersey.
Speaker 2 (39:33):
Okay, I'm going to do some research on things besides
Bravo before this game.
Speaker 1 (39:37):
Well, I'm going to go put my pajamas on and
start my weekend early. Because am I right by saying
that that the first part of the Reunion of Salt
Lake City is already out?
Speaker 2 (39:47):
It's out? They watched it amongst it, of course I have.
I woke up at like five thirty am yesterday morning
to watch it because I'm standing so good, so good
get fucked.
Speaker 1 (39:58):
I've got to go.
Speaker 2 (39:59):
Okay, goodbye, they say,
It's in the news today, but it was actually on
TV Reload the podcast last week that liy. Hey, guys,
welcome back to TV Reload. I want to thank you
for clicking and downloading on today's episode with Alana MacLean
my Housewife Officionato, we have another delicious episode fore you
this week. The eighth episode of Beverly Hills season fourteen
is and was called a perfect storms out, and while
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we had prepared ourselves for an LVP style walkout, the
audience quickly realized that Kyle's break was nothing more than
an ad break because Kyle is not going to be
taking any time off from the show. We will discuss
the fallout from Kyle reading those texts of Garcels Sudden
and Erica are chuck E cheese and what kind of
ammunition that will give the likes of the Kyle naysayers.
(00:47):
I will get Alana's perspective on Bozeman's place in making
Kyle read those text messages to Derete. We will address
Erica's awkward position of being forced to pick a side
between Kyle and Derete. To get plenty of speculation on
the real reason Kyle is pissed with Dereet, what pe
Came must be thinking of Dereet continuing to defame his character,
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and how we feel about Porsche getting a Porsche for
her sweet sixteenth. There is so much to talk about,
as per usual, with so many inside revelations from our perspective.
So sit back and relax as we unpack the wonderful
world of the Real Housewives of Beverly Hill's Season fourteen,
episode eight. How are you?
Speaker 2 (01:30):
I am good? I can't believe it is long weekend
time and it's been so hot here. Oh my god,
we've had like forty forty two forty three, so the
beach hair is back in full swing.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
Do you have anyone in your life that appreciates photos
and selfies as much as I do?
Speaker 2 (01:46):
Like, yes, everyone I know, Otherwise I wouldn't be friends
with them.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
I just love them. And I like Bendaby sitting on
the couch and he'll be like, why are you show
you photos of Elana? I'm like, don't you think that
this is a really pretty dress? This orange looks really
good and like the buttons in the middle, And then
it's like, you're way too invested, Like I'm invested in
you the way that he's invested in like kind libit.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
An actual person with social standing.
Speaker 1 (02:12):
Yeah, I get it, I get it.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
But look, you know, feel free anyone send me some photos,
I mean, not like nude ones. I don't want those.
Don't slide those in at any point, thank you.
Speaker 1 (02:24):
Have you accidentally ever sent a nude to anyone? No?
Speaker 2 (02:26):
Do you know what. I've never taken a nude photo.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
Oh.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
Ever, I feel like I've taken one like in a
bra or something. I've never taken and sent a nude
photo ever, because I just I always thought that's that's
the pr brain that I have. I'm like, once that's
on your camera roll, once that's out in the world,
you never know.
Speaker 1 (02:46):
I think what's interesting about Ben and I have been
together for fifteen years was that we outdate the apps
like Grinder and things like that. So most of my
gay friends have got nudes that have been leaked, especially
if they're in the public eye. But that's because they're
on those apps and they take photos where Ben and
I we're only sending them to each other. And to
(03:07):
be honest with you, after fifteen years, I don't think
I've sent Ben a nude in the last ten Yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
You're like, I've already seen it, sent me something worse.
I don't want to see it.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
I want to ask you about something to start off
the podcast, and that is the rumors about Rebel Wilson's
wife being asked to be on the Real Housewives next season.
They are talking about the possibility of having an Australian accent.
That was apparently a part of the brief. They want
an Australian accent in Beverly Hills who lives in the US,
(03:37):
in Beverly Hills or La roundabout that you think would
be a good actress on Real Housewives.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
Well, I said this to you. This was my hot tip,
was Isla Fisher. Amazing Isla Fisher. I'm putting on on
her because I'm pretty sure she's still living there, isn't
she Obviously she has the US connection being married to
Sasha Baron Collin for all those years, so people know her.
It's not like an Australian that's She's been in some
of those huge movies that you know are still so
(04:04):
famous now. So I'm going to put money on her.
Do you think it's Rebel's wife? What's her name? I
don't even know her name.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
I feel like I should have put that down in
the note, because that is an obvious thing to talk about.
I never even knew that she was married to someone
of any sort of relevance. But there was that controversy
with Hugh Sheridan because Hugh Sheridan introduced her to introduced
Rebel to Rebel's now wife, and then he didn't get
invited to the wedding, so they had a massive barney.
(04:32):
But I'm like, who is Rebel's wife? Like, who is Why.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
Wouldn't they just choose Rebel? Why wouldn't they put her
on instead of the wife because she's so well known?
Speaker 1 (04:41):
But Rebel's like an A list Hollywood actor.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
Really, Like she hasn't done that much at the moment,
is she She could squeeze it in. I'm sure. I'm
sure she could make time.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
I hope she's busy enough to not be listening to
our podcast. That's all I can say.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
She ain't listening, babe, listening. Not even our mums are listening.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
So anyway, this is a great episode. I as much
as it was a good episode, they really did lead
us to something that didn't end up being true because
there was so much discussion about Kyle walking off camera
and maybe taking a break for a couple of episodes,
but that didn't happen. Do you feel a little bit cheated?
Speaker 2 (05:20):
Well, when all those rumors were surfacing, I was like,
surely not. Like she's been on the show so long,
she is still the queen Bee, Surely she's not taking
time off. So I was finding it a bit hard
to believe. But yes, I mean it was the perfect
example of clickbait. It was. It got us on all
(05:40):
the online social trailers, it got all the forums chatting.
Everyone was really invested in wanting to know what was
going to happen. So I think it achieved what it
needed to. But yeah, I mean, the only other side
to that is that it creates a bit of an
anti climax when it doesn't play out that way.
Speaker 1 (05:56):
When we saw the preview for next week's episode and
she's still on camera, I was like, oh, so we've
all just been believing the lie. What I think made
this episode good and what makes me enjoy reality television
is the point where they break the fourth wall that
to me is always really delicious, and they're explicitly told
not to do it. Bozeman said to Andy Cohen on
(06:17):
Watch What Happens Live that she was told you can't
do that, and did Kyle do that because Kyle is
an og and she can get away with it? Like
is that her throwing her weight around? How is she
allad to get away with that where no one else is.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
What was your reaction to Kyle kind of breaking the
fourth wall in tonight's episode and getting out of there. Well,
first of all, I thought that was a no, no,
okay right, and then it was a yes yes from.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
Her, Okay, okay. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
I'm like, look, I'm just here to observe what's going
on and Kyle as I see it. Yeah, I don't know.
I feel like over the last couple of years they
have had moments of that, and I mean, Denise Richards
with the Bravo, Bravo, Bravo, they have to cut that
if they want me show. I want to talk to
Chris Cullen. If you watch the show, you know he's
one of the producers. So I feel like they have
(07:05):
had little sprinklings of those moments where they have broken
the fourth wall. But yes, this was sort of different
in that you actually fully saw the cameras, you saw
the setup. I don't mean that we already knew. I
think that's what you're taking it as. I'm not talking
about that. I'm talking about this, okay, which I can't
say because we were filming and production. Some fact. Sometimes
(07:29):
when they're in a filming scene where there's reflection or
something in their sunglasses, I always try and look to
see if I can see the cameras.
Speaker 1 (07:37):
Why do we love this so much?
Speaker 3 (07:38):
Like?
Speaker 1 (07:38):
Why do we want to see them?
Speaker 2 (07:40):
Veristic?
Speaker 1 (07:40):
Is that what it is? We were like, we're already
getting enough, We're already getting their full live stories and
following their marriage breakups and everything, and yet here we
are peering at the TV just to get a glimpse
of the cameras or the booms, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
Like, well, I think it's interesting because you know, it's
interesting just to see how many people are involved in
a production like this. I mean, when they walk into
a restaurant, they're literally walking in with like three cameras,
two sound people lighting, like it's a full operation. I mean,
hats off to everyone else that sits in the background
of all these public settings and just kind of carries
(08:13):
on about their business. I would just be like, oh
my God, I would be glued to what is going on.
Speaker 1 (08:18):
Well, we're a little bit ahead of ourselves already, which
what's on brand Prass. We have to go back to
where the episode starts, and we really are still in
the thick of these messages being revealed. So you've had
Kyle last week read out messages to Garcel Sudden and Erica,
which has put her in the shit because it's now
obvious that it's not memes and jokes, you know.
Speaker 2 (08:39):
As memes memes. As Tilly said, it's more than mens.
It's more than memes. Memes means he sends memes.
Speaker 3 (08:49):
I feel like he was texting her more than memes
and she's down playing, like, oh.
Speaker 2 (08:54):
He's texting me memes, bro, it's like.
Speaker 1 (08:56):
Memes, memes mes. Side note when Bose was asked on
Watch What Happens Live who has the best fashion on
the series of Real Housewives of Beverly Hills, and she
said Jennifer Tilly. I had to smack my TV. I
was like, is the TV broken? Who has the best
fashion sense? Jennifer Tilly?
Speaker 2 (09:17):
That is such an odd I haven't heard those comments.
That's an odd choice, particularly when you're friends with Derete
and Durite hangs her hat on being the fashionista of
the group. I mean that's almost like throwing a little grenade.
Speaker 1 (09:30):
I think Dereitt would have been upset with that. She
was sitting in the audience with Watch what Happens Lives.
I know, I'm actually really enjoying Derete's look the most
this season than any other season. I'm loving her hair color,
I'm loving the length. I'm loving a bit of the
waves and the hair that we saw in this episode.
Gone to the days where she's got a giant turd
hanging off the back of her head that probably cost
a million dollars, Like she's.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
Really paid it back, she had everything back, Yes, but look,
I mean she is, She's going through a hard time
and probably you know, getting dressed up in couture isn't
high on the agenda list at the moment, so you know,
fair play. But it was, I mean, it was a
compelling episode. I think the fact that they set it up,
like with Bose having this serenity party as the juxtaposition
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for you know, the craziness, the the intense scenes that
were about to ensue. And I love when Jennifer Tilly
said to that massage guy, this is the calm before
all the yelling. And he said, they're going to yell,
and she's like, oh yeah, they'll be yelling the quiet
period before the shouting state.
Speaker 1 (10:35):
Will be shouting.
Speaker 2 (10:38):
And then there was just that little flashback those two
massous guys were talking to each other. He's like, that
lady was right.
Speaker 1 (10:47):
That lady from the Chucky movie is right.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
She was right.
Speaker 1 (10:51):
I thought about Bozeman and Bozman setup of this day
Spar and it was really the sequel to Sutton's sister
and you know health, you know idea, you know, she
was really leading off the back of that. This kind
of did become the sequel to that, which I think
was bigger and more disastrous this time. These women being
invited to these events, and do you reckon that the
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producers are saying to them today, we're setting this up
for this particular conversation. Do you reckon they walked them
into a day spar scenario, you know, as a bit
of a ruse to then have them finally have a
big explosion and have the space for maybe Kyle and
to eat to take the conversation outside.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
Well, I mean, I don't know if they were necessarily
going to predict that that was going to happen, although
I did definitely feel like it was deliberate that Bo's
opened that can of worms because Kyle was sitting there.
She was like, oh, it's a lovely day. And then
she was like, Hey about that text, Why couldn't you
read it out to me? I think you should read
it out to the group. She really started that, and
(11:54):
she she drew her battle lines very clearly to be like,
I'm with Derete, you need to show the text. Here
we go, and that is basically what started everything. The
fireworks commenced from there. When it comes to a conversation
that Kyle is having with PK No tell de okay, well.
Speaker 1 (12:12):
Let me ask you this.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
They'll guarantees. Can you read the text? Please read it
to you?
Speaker 1 (12:18):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (12:20):
I don't know why bos is taking u upon herself
to tell me that I need to share my messages
with the.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
Group, And Kyle basically threw it back on the piece
to camera to say, why is it Boseman's business to
ask me this? And it did have the viewers probably
asking the same question if anyone is going to keep
pushing this narrative and bring this topic up today? Is
it Bozman's job. It's really got nothing to do with
Bozman except that she's now besties with Deret. Like if
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anyone was going to bring up this conversation, I just
didn't think that Bozman was the right person to do it.
Speaker 2 (12:55):
I think it was definitely like, let's get her in there,
let's get her front, sent her with the drama, and
obviously us as viewers, we have seen this relationship strengthen
with Dereat from the confessionals. We're seeing all the other scenes,
but you have to remember when they're filming this, they're
not knowing any of that that's happening in the background.
I think Kyle would have thought she was quite neutral,
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and I think Kyle would have thought, oh, we're friendly.
You know, I've given her the flowers after surgery, I've
gone to visit her. I think she was quite taken
aback that Bose was like, Nah, this ain't cool, and
it really started from there. But what I also found
was so interesting was that shift in dynamics where it
almost seemed like all the other women were turning on
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Kyle and she was realizing that in real time that
these women aren't sticking up for me at all. Everyone
has gone completely silent, everyone who's obviously thinking this text
is way worse than what she is thinking it is,
and even someone like Sutton who we saw too. I mean,
this just goes to Sutton's volatility. But Sutton, who was
screaming at Dreat saying we're not even friends, she wasn't
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even sticking up for Kyle in that moment. The only
person that stuck up for Kyle in that moment was Erica.
Speaker 3 (14:08):
The rest of these women are pressuring Kyle, almost accusing
her of having done something wrong. She has not done
anything wrong by communicating with a friend. Let me go
see this friend of mine. Durt and Kyle need to
have this conversation, not us fantasizing and filling in the blank.
Speaker 2 (14:29):
And last week we were the ones saying Erica has
chosen team to read. So there is a lot of
shifting ground here beneath.
Speaker 1 (14:36):
Us, well, Gus, Allen Suddener, obviously just the Witches of Eastwick.
They're sitting there with their cauldron. It's not their storyline,
but they are absolutely enjoying putting the little ingredients in
to make it bubble away. And make this more of
a meal for Kyle. I don't know what their problem is.
I think that they've both come to this series laid
in the piece around the era of this is Kyle's
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show or I guess that still is the era in
some ways, And maybe there's a bounty on being able
to overthrow an og like that. Maybe that's their mo
is that they are like, we're here to look for
the cracks and make them bigger.
Speaker 2 (15:13):
Well, we definitely saw that with that conversation that then
happened later with Gussell and Sutton, and Sutton saying, which
they had promoted heavily on the season trailer at the
start of the season, I am not going to bow
down at the altar of Kyle Richards.
Speaker 3 (15:27):
She thanks, it's okay to storm out and leave this group,
and I am not going to bow down at the
altar of Carl.
Speaker 2 (15:38):
So it'd be interesting to see how much further she
takes that. What exactly does that look like? What does
that mean? Are they going to have a huge beef
or is she just going to basically say you're not
allowed to walk out? But the walkout, I mean, what
did you make of that? Because to me, when I'm
watching that, I was just getting such deja vus of
Lisa vander Pump season nine or whatever it was. When
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Kyle went over confrontedly, some was basically like, this is
what everyone thinks. We think you're in the wrong. It's shady,
you're almost caught out. You need to admit it. And LVP,
as we know, was so vehemently denying that she had
any involvement. She wasn't wrong, and then she stormed off,
never to be seen again. And aside from the fact
(16:20):
that we did see Kyle again, but that whole scene
to me played out exactly like that. She was caught.
She was trying to double down. Everyone was going, Babe,
you're caught. You're not right. You need to just admit
that you were wrong and let the whole thing go.
But her storming off like that, that was really a
case of she can't handle this fire.
Speaker 1 (16:39):
At this point, though, I am starting to think that
if I was Kile, I think I'd probably just be like,
you know what, dear, I'm not that close to you,
and it's starting to feel like our values are not aligned.
This isn't about being a bad girlfriend. This is about
what is serving me and PEK sending me some funny
messages while I'm going through a divorce is kind of
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what I need right now. And I don't need this
so well, dret and everybody's chasing after her for some
accountability of not being a good girlfriend. I just don't
think she's done anything wrong. I think they're making more
out of this than they really need to.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
Well, I just think if she said that though, that
the thing with these what though she said I don't
want to be friends with you to read, I'm actually
better friends with PK. I have been over the final
six months. We have talked about things on a deeper level.
It is more than means and jokes, and we've had
a friendship. The fact that she is lying about that
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is what is getting her into the shit. And it's
the same thing that got Denise in the ship with
the Brandy text. And we've seen it. We've seen this
play out before, the fact that they all preach ownership
and honesty and Kyle has been a massive ringleader of
that approach, and she has been very very aggressive towards
people that haven't done that, and that is what they're
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pissed at her about. Is this hypocrisy that she preaches
that and the fact that she's not owning what she said.
She's changed the story and we've never had the real
reason about why she was angry at Duret when we
came into this season. She has been scrambling. She never
gave us a reason, and now she's trying to cover
this whole thing up. It's strange.
Speaker 1 (18:15):
Is it making you think that the reason why Morgan
Wade isn't a part of this series has got something
to do with Deret and that Dereit might have done
something to push this Morgan wave narrative at a positioned
that maybe Kyle's uncomfortable with. Because the only thing that
makes sense to me right now about something that Kyle
would be hiding and not putting on camera is kind
of obvious to me that Morgan Wade's name is not
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being mentioned.
Speaker 2 (18:37):
Well, that could be a theory that checks out. That
could be a theory that checks out if Morgan was like,
I don't really want you being friends with Dereat and
then Kyle's sort of backed off in that sense. But
I mean, I don't really understand why you'd still keep
issuing a friendship with Dret's husband. If that was the case,
you know, it's I don't know. The whole thing's a
little bit weird. It's almost like she's tried to pursue
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the friendship with PK. Moore to piss to read off.
There's something in that equation though, whether it's the Morgan
thing or there's something else. So she's pissed at the
rumors that Dured had a thing for mo or whatever
it is. But there's definitely something that we've said this
before that is fueling this to such a level where
she is so pissed at to read. I still believe
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I think she wants to read to cut the friendship off.
I think Kyle is almost to the point where with
this text thing she wants to eat to get so
angry at her that Durret is the one that says, well,
she's not my friend. I've cut her off. But it
gets Kyle out of having to look like the one
that pulled the pin, and in turn, she gets to
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look like the victim.
Speaker 1 (19:42):
Well, it's a strategy on the chessboard that we've seen
with any franchise of this show. It seems to be
what women want to do in this scenario is that
they don't want to be made accountable for their honest opinion,
and they usually place it underneath someone else's care. Get
someone else to shut that person down, get them to
bury themselves. You know, that seems to be what they
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want to do. And maybe that's because they've been on
these shows long enough to know that a big part
of being a reality TV personality is keeping your fans
on side. Maybe Kyle thinks that she won't keep her
fans on side if she veers too far away from
what she's already been projecting. You know, maybe she's terrified
about and I don't want to speculate her about her
being a lesbian, because I actually think speculating about somebody's
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sexuality is kind of wrong. That to me, is a
bit gross. But whatever Kyle is struggling with, there is
a good possibility that she doesn't feel like she can
do that because she's worried she's going to lose her audience.
Speaker 2 (20:38):
Well, I mean, it's either thinking that she might lose
her audience or it's assuming that her audience is so
right or die at this point that she can just
play the cards however she wants. And she's expecting a pass,
so I'm not too sure which one it is. But
another sort of compelling part of this whole conversation was
where Erica was sitting in amongst all of it all,
because we assumed that even though she was trying to
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be friends with them both, she was seeing Durrett's point more.
She wasn't being, you know, overt about it, but she
was sort of saying, look, I think I was in
the wrong here. That was sort of the undertone to it.
And then in this episode that whole situation flipped. She
publicly stood up for Kyle in that moment, and then
we saw the continuation of that at the day spar
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where Durrett was really starting to put her under the grill,
and she, you know, she was saying, well, you don't
have enough proof that that's what's happened on the text.
Speaker 3 (21:32):
Durit may not need Prue, but I need Prue. And
you know what, I was married to a trial lawyer
for over twenty years, and guess what you taught me
a few things.
Speaker 1 (21:42):
You gotta have proof, man, you do on its.
Speaker 3 (21:45):
Face to me, it could read two ways. Of course,
Kyle's message sounds suspicious, So what I'm choosing to believe
my friend that I've known for a decade.
Speaker 1 (21:58):
I think it's amazing how Erica has been able to
be throughout this because it was not really sitting well
with me with these storylines where we kept seeing Erica
and Derete together and having these conversations, like I just
felt like these women don't really seem to have the
same values. Like Erica looked like she was just trying
to be kind to a friend who that she thought
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was a bit duffed, and so she was like, yes,
I understand you're right with this, but the overall picture
is no, No, you're kind of going off on the
wrong direction, I think. And the one thing that Kyle
wouldn't do to Erica, which dret did in this episode,
and that is ask her basically you need to pick aside,
and I don't think that was I felt so uncomfortable
watching that scene where Dereit really went after Erica and
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Erica had to say, alrighty, I'm going to bow out now,
you know, if you're going to start campaigning for me
to pick aside and say one person is truly right,
one person is truly wrong, that's the point where I'm
going to have to step out where she can break
it down and she can say to Durete, yeah, Kyle
was wrong here. She can say to you know, Kyle, yes,
Direct's wrong here, and say bits and pieces. But she's
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never really been told pick the friend. And I thought
Direct doing that was really immature.
Speaker 2 (23:10):
It was sort of strange because she ended up giving
her that hypothetic called the end. She said, but if
this was true, if she was texting her about other
things besides memes and jokes and it was about our relationship,
you know, would you be okay with that? And Erica said,
well no, but she has got herself really stuck in
the middle of it. And it was interesting when Dret said,
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I think Erica is scared of Kyle, because Erica was
the one that used to pick out that everyone was scared,
including to read of Lisa vander Pump, and that they
were prepared to say or do anything or bend any
which way they needed to bend to avoid the wrath
of Lisa vander Pump.
Speaker 1 (23:48):
What do you think do you think that Erica's scared
of Kyle, because I don't.
Speaker 2 (23:52):
I don't think she's scared of Kyle. I don't think
that's what it was. But I think she would be
scared of being called a hypocrite by the fan because it's,
as she said in her confessional, this is what happened
to me. People assumed things about the legal case, people
assumed things about her involvement in the embezzlement scandal with
Tom Girardi. They didn't have proof. I was dragged through
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the mud and I had nothing to do with it,
and I've had to fight like a dog to get
my reputation and my social standing back. So if she
went after Kyle without the proof, as she says, I
think people would come for her and said, Kyle's been
a good friend to you, and now you were going
after her without that proof. So I think that is
why she's trying to say to Dret, I can't openly
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fully side with you with the facts as they are.
I need more.
Speaker 1 (24:41):
I tell friends to get fucked when they do that
to me, though, Like when friends say to me, oh,
this happens such and such, I'm involved in this drama
and this is how it's gone and this is how
it's gone down. I'm always like, it takes two to tango,
so let's just look at what you're responsible for, and
let's talk about that. Because you can't control another person,
you can only control yourself. So if that person's not
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doing what you want them to do, and you keep
shifting and trying to do the right thing by yourself
with what you can control, maybe that friendship's not working,
maybe it's not serving you anymore, Like maybe it's time
to bow out. But when they ask for me to
co sign on their feelings about something that doesn't directly
involve me, that's what I'm out. I'm like, no, no, no,
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this isn't about the problem. This is a campaign. This
is about ego, this is about control.
Speaker 2 (25:29):
Well, last week we said we wanted to see a
conversation between Kyle and Darite that was without the other ladies.
We were like, we're done with the group setting, the screening,
the alcohol fueled conversations, you know, like we've seen at
the Viper Room and we've seen at the season premiere.
We got that on this episode. We got that moment
where Durit went outside, followed her down, tried to sit
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down and have a quieter, rational conversation, and I mean
it went pretty well in the scheme of things. I
think they were both being quiet logical about it. I
think Kyle's still doubling down to sort of make it
sound like she hasn't spoken about p K and Dearite was,
you know, in her sort of zone of saying, well,
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I think you have probably done that because that's what
PK does to everyone. But what is sort of, you know,
a contradiction is that she was calmer having that conversation
with Kyle. Then she was about the conversation with Erica
where she was asking her to sort of choose side.
So I was like, oh, you got to be careful there,
because are you going to go pick another enemy?
Speaker 1 (26:32):
It is to me when I was watching that conversation happened,
it made me think that Kyle genuinely believes her own narrative.
I don't think she's lying. I think she just believes
to be believes the situation to be a certain way.
I don't think she's going I know the truth and
I'm hiding it. I don't think that's what's happening. But
what is happening and what I don't understand, and like,
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let's put a big question mark on this is where's
Paul Kemsley? Where's p K while she defames him so hard.
Deret's saying that he turns into a monster like that,
and that Kyle doesn't know who he is. That is
out courageously slanderous and Pik as quiet as a mouse
on social media, while Derete is out there pushing this narrative,
which makes me think that isn't adding up. You know,
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Let's just say if Ben and I broke up, and
Ben and I were on a reality TV show, or
say Ben was on a reality TV show and he's
having heart to hearts with his friends and saying that
I was a monster and I did all of these things,
I would be pretty pissed off.
Speaker 2 (27:31):
Oh of course you would be. I mean, whether that's
the case or not. But you know, to Kyle's point,
rightly so, and to your point, we will never know.
We weren't there behind closed doors. I think what has
become so evident is the protection that these women have
given against them for their marriages. Because there was all
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the talk about Kyle and Mo and him being you know,
adulterous and whatever. We never got confirmation of that, but
then all of a sudden, broken up Deret lovey dovey
bubble ish, you know, everything's all good. He supports me,
he's helping me with my designs. Rahah blah bla.
Speaker 1 (28:09):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (28:09):
Now he's a monster, he's an alcoholic, all of these things.
Erica with the legal scandal, and then she came out
and said Tom was so mean to her. So it's
very hard for us to take anything they're saying on
face value when it's becoming very evident that they have
protected them and told a very different story over so
many years.
Speaker 1 (28:27):
If any of my friends in their relationships are posting
on Facebook about shmoopy whoopy or woopy whoopy, it's never
smoopy whoopy. If anyone's saying that in front of other people,
then they're trying to prove something that's not real. I
think that there's something very subservient about the dynamics of
the women that they find on these shows. That they
find these men and that they don't probably agree with
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everything that they do, but they've been brought up to
be the housewife, you know. They've brought up to protect
their man, protect their family. And I think in some
ways that's probably what all of these women have had
in common, maybe less so Erica Jane with her son
being much older by the time she got together with
old mate. I just think that there's something quite interesting
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in those dynamics. I think in Beverly Hills, who're supposed
to present a certain image, and that's what they were
trying to do. You know, I don't necessarily think that
they are trying to cover up for or lying about it.
I think that that's the culture of it. The culture
of it is, you know, don't embarrass yourself by putting
your personal lives or throwing your husband's under the bus
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like that.
Speaker 2 (29:30):
Well, we saw Mauricio on this episode and it was
Porta's birthday, and I mean, aside from the fact that
we're buying sixteen year old children one hundred and fifty
thousand dollar cars side note, but you know, we saw
Kyle with all the girls there, Mauricio, Oh, hi, honey,
big hugs and kisses hello. And then we see in
her confessional she was like, you know, I was so
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excited about what we built, and now we don't have
each other in that way, we don't have the family
dynamic in the same She was very teary about it.
You can tell that's really taking a toll on her.
But something obviously happened in that relationship towards the end
there to make her you know, Lee, and to make
her make that stand and to blow the whole thing up.
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So I feel like maybe there was a point where
she's gone, oh, we might be able to get past
this and get back together. But I think she's realizing
now that's not the case, and I think she's quite
upset by that. But I feel like that's why we
never got told what actually went down there. So I
still think there is a level of protection with these
women against these men.
Speaker 1 (30:34):
Just because it's television doesn't mean it needs to be
as dramatic as you think. I mean, I've got friends
whose relationships have fallen apart because some of the women
have felt like their husbands haven't picked them, They've picked
their jobs over them, they've picked their mates over them.
Maybe there's a chance that Kyle Richard's just got sick
of not being picked by Marizio and he was off
on holidays and golfing and putting other people first. I mean,
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marriages have crumbled because of that.
Speaker 2 (30:58):
But she did mention the trust. The only nugget that
we got she said.
Speaker 1 (31:02):
Trust broken because he said he's for Portio's birthday and
then he didn't or maybe trust is broken when he
says I'm going to be there at one of your
white parties and then he doesn't turn up at the
white party because he decided to go and have a
scotch with someone else, you know what I mean, Like, maybe, yeah,
that's true, sick of the fact that he wasn't picking.
Because it's television, we have to go infidelity. Oh it's infidelity.
(31:24):
Oh that's exactly what it is. And I'm not one
hundred percent sure that's what it is because running by
what Erica Jane continuously pushed forward in this episode is
that we don't have proof of anything, you know what
I mean, Like, we're only speculating.
Speaker 2 (31:37):
Yeah, well that's that's definitely the case. And you know,
we're dealing with a cast now that is all single.
I'm classing Bows as that, but her relationships only knew.
But really we're seeing these women in out of thee
their late forties, their fifties, they're starting a second chapter.
They're single. It's a very different, you know, playing field
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to what it was when we first watched this show
at the start, where they were all married to very
high profile rich men.
Speaker 1 (32:04):
So I love that dynamic though, Like I think it's
fascinating to see these weeks and it's funny. My mum's
in a relationship in her seventies, you know, and that
is not her forever partner. And I think we need
to see more women on television in their second and
third relationships because we're living longer. And love is an
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interesting thing because we all feel like we're deserved it,
and we're all deserved this Disney Happily ever After, but
for so many people that isn't the case. They haven't
found there forever person, although forever person has died. I
think it's important to show women still having new adventures
on television. I think it's important to show the dynamics
of women and about how they've evolved as friends in
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their later life. So House was right Now for me
is quite fascinating because apart from the occasional movie like
The Book Club or some movie where you put four
Hollywood has beens together on a book group tour, we
don't necessarily get to see women's day to day and
how they interact.
Speaker 2 (33:06):
And I think what makes that so important is the
fact that when they don't have these relationships anymore. These
female friendships become the core, and that becomes their family.
And that is why when things start shifting and changing
or there's you know, tension or something's happened, it's hitting
on a new level. It's hitting on a new layer.
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It's landing differently because you would see me, you know,
as we've watched through the season. Sometimes when those arguments happen,
they go, Okay, well I'm going home to my husband,
and it's sort of like the friendship is secondary. But
when you take the husband and those you know, core
relationships out of the mix, this is what you're left
with and it's in turmoil and it is making these
women either fight or not fight in a different way.
(33:50):
You know. That's where the dereet Erica friendship. I'm surprised
that dere took her to task and was sort of
pushing her to pick aside because I thought, well, you're
in a position where you don't have a lot of
close friends. Eric has been very good to you, and
now you're about to throw a grenade in there that
could blow the whole thing up. So yes, you've got
Bows now as your new friend, but it's a new friendship,
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and I sometimes think new friendships are a little bit
like new relationships. It's all fanfare and gloss, and you know,
you sort of have a sort of facade over the
relationship a little bit in those early days because it's
all a bit happy and new and you haven't really
gone through these things yet. So I think putting all
(34:34):
her eggs in the bow's basket, I don't know if
that's a smart move.
Speaker 1 (34:38):
Well, it's really not. And one of the most shocking
things that happened in this episode to me, and I
had to do the double take point in check. Thank
you for the message of you watching this week's episode
and showing Robbie sitting next to you hilarious. But when
I looked over at Ben, I was like, when to
interrupted Garcel while she was having her treatment and really
made that beeline. We have never seen that. And how
(34:59):
bizarre for Dreit to go after Garca like that after
pretending she hasn't existed for four seasons. I think that's
about recruitment. I think that's about recruiting Garsel. And I
find that sort of play amongst female friendships to be
kind of toxic.
Speaker 2 (35:16):
I'm so sorry to disturb this beautiful moment?
Speaker 1 (35:21):
Why is she here right now?
Speaker 3 (35:24):
As far as the other nightman in the vapor room
gotten into screaming match with Yale when you turn around
and asked me.
Speaker 2 (35:32):
How are you doing? Do you mean that genuinely?
Speaker 1 (35:37):
How welcome I are you?
Speaker 2 (35:39):
I think that was definitely a move to get her
in a position she wasn't going anywhere. She was lying
down getting the massage. No one else was around to
interrupt that conversation, and that was definitely like a little
play to become an ally for sure. I think I
thought Garsa was quite disingenuous at the Viber room when
she asked that question. In that moment, I thought, how stupid,
(36:00):
Oh how are you?
Speaker 3 (36:01):
Well?
Speaker 2 (36:01):
Obviously I'm having a screaming match with my friend. I'm
really upset I found out all this information about these
secret text shit is going haywire every which way somethe
was yelling at her. Why would she then, in that
moment have a heart to heart with Garcel and be like, oh,
let's talk about life and my relationship. So I thought
Garcell's question was loaded, But then they sort of seem
to have quite a nice moment. So I'm like, Oh
(36:22):
my god, it's changing again. I mean, the whiplash with
these women and their allegiances is quite crazy.
Speaker 1 (36:29):
It's wild. Coming to the end of this discussion, I mean,
we kind of had to interweave so much because this episode,
whilst it did go to other places, it really did
center around the same theme. I felt like we did
get some answers, like it felt like a mid season moment.
I don't know if you felt the same way, because
then when we got a preview for next week's episode,
I wasn't expecting that. I was expecting to see, you know,
(36:52):
for the next part of Beverly Hills, you know, for
the rest of this season. This is what you're going
to get, and get a glimpse of new looks with
pieces to camera and some new fights, some new storylines emerging.
But we got sort of like a preview to a
generic episode.
Speaker 2 (37:06):
Maybe maybe we might get that next week. I just
I feel like, coming back from a Christmas break, we
already had that two weeks off. I really hope they
just don't put another two weeks in there anytime soon.
I want to watch a couple more before we get
to that point.
Speaker 1 (37:20):
How many Alana mcleans are you giving this episode?
Speaker 2 (37:23):
Oh, this was a good one. I agree. I'm going
to put this right up there. This was a four
point five.
Speaker 1 (37:27):
Yeah, I'm going to give this a four point five.
I'd almost tempt to just get to give it a five,
you know what I mean, Like on the reason why
I would reach for that limit is because I mean
for that height is that I felt like we did
get some answers, we got some resolutions in this, and
we got something a little bit resolved where I felt
like if we hadn't reached that point and I was
(37:48):
still hanging episode to episode with so many questions, I
would have been quite frustrated. Where we've got conflict. We
got Kyle Richard's hair looking fucking fantastic. By the way,
when you gave that car to Porsche.
Speaker 2 (38:01):
Oh that hair was great. I thought you were going
to say the days by day and I was like,
oh no, no, oh no, they had regular, regular hair
when they don't have the fashion moments. And I do
feel a little bit starved. But four and a half
solid episode. I'm liking seeing the shifting dynamics and the friendships,
and I think one thing that I think is very
(38:23):
good with this you know storyline playing out is that
it is involving all the women. I don't think it's
a separate storyline to Tom Girardi and Erica where it's
sort of we're not it's not touching all the women.
This is touching all the women, and I'm here for it.
Speaker 1 (38:37):
Yeah, yeah, I'm here for touching with all the women
apparently PC. Okay, Well, before I go, I just want
to know what are you doing for this long weekend?
Is there? Like? I'm assuming you're not going to wash
your hair?
Speaker 2 (38:49):
Oh, it's it's a salty mess. I might go to
the beach again later. I've got some drinks on. I'm
going to a corporate sweet tomorrow for the basketball. I
don't know anything about the basketball.
Speaker 1 (38:59):
But you're only there for You're there for your fashion
and for your drinks.
Speaker 2 (39:03):
That's what Yeah, And I can do this? Ready? Do
you fit? Is that what they say basketball?
Speaker 1 (39:08):
You're asking You're asking the wrong question. What do I
say to basketball match? As if I'd ever been to one?
Speaker 2 (39:15):
My reference point to a basketball match is Kate Hudson
and Matthew mccallaughey.
Speaker 1 (39:20):
That's it.
Speaker 2 (39:20):
Ten things I hate about you? That's it My reference
point is she looks so cute in that little guernsey jersey.
So I don't know, I.
Speaker 1 (39:28):
Think he gives something a guernsey. I don't think. I
think that's a jersey. Yeah, okay, you look good at
a jersey.
Speaker 2 (39:33):
Okay, I'm going to do some research on things besides
Bravo before this game.
Speaker 1 (39:37):
Well, I'm going to go put my pajamas on and
start my weekend early. Because am I right by saying
that that the first part of the Reunion of Salt
Lake City is already out?
Speaker 2 (39:47):
It's out? They watched it amongst it, of course I have.
I woke up at like five thirty am yesterday morning
to watch it because I'm standing so good, so good
get fucked.
Speaker 1 (39:58):
I've got to go.
Speaker 2 (39:59):
Okay, goodbye, they say,
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