January 31, 2025 • 38 mins
Hi Guys, welcome back to TV Reload. Thank you for clicking or downloading on today’s episode with Alana McLean… my fact checker... My housewives ride or die and the best person to spa with - over these ladies we act like we know but in fact will never meet in real life..
We have another top shelf episodes for you this week. The ninth episode of Beverely Hills season 14 is called a 'Beachy Keen' and we have had some resolution with Kyle and Dorit and thank gawd we did not have to wait till the end of the season. That is all I am saying.
- We will discuss, the way in which Erica choose to navigate what she repeats to Kyle about Dorit. To keep her nose clean
- I will get Alana’s perspective on Sutton's lack of ability to read a room. Which her reaction to that awkward interruption of Dorit.
- We will address the decision to not tell your children.. you have separated from their father?
- You are going to get plenty of speculation on the mis season preview.. What what were our favourite parts of this episode and a request from our listeners on what Andy Cohen should be preparing to ask these women when we get to the reunion
There is so much to talk about with so many inside revelations. So sit back and relax as we unpack the wonderful world of the RHOBH season 14!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
It's in the news today, but it was actually on
TV Reload the podcast last week. Thereby, Hey, guys, welcome
back to TV Reload. I want to thank you for
clicking and downloading on today's episode with my friend Alana McLean,
my fact checker, my housewife, Right or Die, and the
best person to spar with over some ladies that we
act like we know but in fact we will never meet.
(00:21):
We have another top shelf episode for you this week.
The ninth episode of Beverly Hills season fourteen is called
Beachy Keen and guys, we got some resolution with Kyle
and Dereete, and thank god we did not have to
wait till the end of the season. That is all
I'm saying. We will discuss the way in which Erica
chooses to navigate what she repeats to Kyle about Dereete
(00:42):
to keep her nose clean. I will get Alana's perspective
on Sutton's lack of ability to read a room, which
her reaction to that awkward interruption of Dereet will go
down in Real Housewives history. We will also address that
decision to not tell your children that you've separated from
their father. You were going to get plenty of speculation
on the mid season preview, what were our favorite parts
(01:05):
of episode nine and a request from our listeners on
what Andy Cohen should be preparing to ask these women
when we get to the reunion. There's actually so much
to talk about, with so many inside revelations from Alara
and myself. So guys, sit back and relax as we
unpacked the wonderful world of Real Housewives at Beverly Hills
Season fourteen, Episode nine. How are you, by the way,
(01:28):
are you well?
Speaker 2 (01:30):
Just having a Limonicello spirits? And I'm on the countdown
to Italy and I'm going to pretend I'm on a
cast troop when I'm over there, except I haven't told
my husband. That's the kind of mentality that I'm going
into the trip with.
Speaker 3 (01:43):
So when I.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
Watched back all the other women.
Speaker 3 (01:46):
Well, I was watching back on old series ten.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
I think it was when they go to Rome and
I was writing down all the name of the bars
and everything, and then Robbie, we can't afford to go
to any of those places, like, please stop doing that,
And I was like, well, you'll just say.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
Oh my god. For the people listening to this, I'm
wearing a face mask. So I sound a little bit weird.
It's because I'm restricted. My face is restricted.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
It's everyone's strength come true. Then Norris can no longer talk.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
This is what you're here for.
Speaker 3 (02:15):
Oh my gosh, I love it.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
You look out standing, and you just you can look
even better in about half an hour from now.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
Well, I can tell you that I've been drinking green
juices because they're meant to be really good for my
skin and for feeling better, like gut health, you know,
mind health or whatever the fuck that is. And he's
kind of working. I don't know what's going on, Like, yeah,
so gross, but good for my mental health.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
Okay, well that's great. I'm feeling quite bad about my
limon cello choice. Then, given it's only two pm in
the afternoon here.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
The confidence of a person that knows that no one
from their work is listening to this podcast is declaring.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
I just like I heard it back and I thought
it out of context. People are going to think you've
gone too far there, cracking a drink at two perre.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
I'm getting that on a T shirt. I don't know
what you're talking about, or what or what psychotictic I
want to start by asking something which I've been thinking
about a week. Has your opinion of Bozma and someone
who corrected me online last week for you and I
calling it Bozman?
Speaker 3 (03:21):
Oh my god?
Speaker 2 (03:22):
Was it just to actually feel like I've been meaning
to tell you this for four weeks and every time
we do it, I'm like, oh, well, we've already said it.
Now we've moved on. I think I've just called her bows.
But then I'm like, hang on, I think it's just
bos muf. Okay, we've been corrected. Apologies, apologies, bows and muf.
Speaker 1 (03:41):
Yeah, we have been corrected. But look, it's totally fine.
But I think I really want to start the podcast
by talking about Bozmak because I want to know is
your opinion of her changed? Because very Salt Lake City, Bronwyn,
I'm getting the feeling as though we let her believe.
We kind of allowed our minds to think that she
having the perfect season, but yet on reflection, is she
(04:03):
as good as what we thought she was?
Speaker 2 (04:05):
I think she's better. I am loving her more with
each episode. I love the fact that she I feel
had the perfect balance of observation and then also getting involved.
So I feel like we have got to see some
of her personal life. I feel like we've got to
see her friendship with Derete actually flourish. I don't think
(04:25):
that is you know, behind the scenes as well. I
don't think it's a fake friendship. I think it's a
real friendship. And they've traveled together. She was in New
York together. They were celebrating Boza's birthday over there, and
Derete and I feel like, you know, her reads on
everyone have just been so spot on. So for me,
she's elevated. I liked her in the first couple of episodes,
(04:46):
and she's still on the trajectory for me?
Speaker 3 (04:48):
Is she not for you?
Speaker 1 (04:50):
No, I don't know what's happened?
Speaker 3 (04:51):
Well, you're off her.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
Yeah, the Bosma has curdled.
Speaker 4 (04:54):
I just.
Speaker 1 (04:56):
I just feel like she's going so so hard for
Kyle Richards. Kyle continues to lie.
Speaker 5 (05:06):
She's lying about the depth of her relationship with Pique
and what she's saying about Dorrie. She's clearly lying about
the depth of her knowledge about what's going on.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
And look, let's not just leave that with bose mut
All of these women are going so hard for her,
and I just I just don't know if Bozman's the
right person to go after Kyle. Does she really know
her well enough to be really saying as much as
what she says? I mean, maybe she's just playing defense
and when she catches up at direct, you know, it's
just very easy for her to go.
Speaker 3 (05:36):
I don't feel like she's come for Kyle.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
All she did was basically at that last episode say,
I think you should read the text. I think in
her confessionals she has said some stuff.
Speaker 3 (05:46):
But I think it's been warranted.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
And I don't think she's actually come for Kyle face
to face, don't.
Speaker 3 (05:52):
I don't think she has. I think she's asked the
questions that everyone else will be asking, what do you
want to talk about? Willis?
Speaker 2 (05:58):
She's been quite quite fair who in her questions to
Kyle as of all the women, And I just don't
think Kyle was banking on everyone turning against her. That's
what That's basically what it's come down to, and that's
what the penny dropped for a few of those women
at that precursor dinner before they.
Speaker 3 (06:16):
Went to Garcel's beach house.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
That's when she realized, I don't have the troops on
my side. I need to change direction.
Speaker 1 (06:23):
I mean, we need to get into that. But one
thing I will give you, Bosma, She's definitely not there
to fuck spiders this season.
Speaker 4 (06:30):
She is back.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
I love that it's such an Aussie saying, but it's
truly she. I mean, she has signed seal delivered that
diamond for next year, honey.
Speaker 1 (06:41):
If she wants it.
Speaker 3 (06:42):
If she wants it, let's hope she does.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (06:45):
Yeah, I like someone who's willing to give it. There all,
you know, Erica not feeding back her conversation with Derete
from the day spar in the previous episode was proof
to me that she's actually being a very good friend
to both of these women, because she was able to
get on that phone call and talk to Kyle and
give Kyle good advice. When she was brought up on
(07:06):
the Erica Durradi phone call.
Speaker 3 (07:10):
He's Siri FaceTime, Erica Girardi.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
Thanks Kyle for not changing her name to not Girardi.
But anyway, maybe that's what her name is. I don't know.
I think everyone's calling her Erica Jane. But I thought
if that was me, I would have said, you know
what you got? You know what my girl said yesterday
about you? She wants me to pick aside, you know,
but she didn't do that.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
No, she didn't, And I think she's shown that she
is very trustworthy. I think when Dereit first came to
her and said, you know PK and I getting separated
that we saw in the season premiere, and she didn't
and she said, look, I'm going to be honest with you.
I'm seeing Kyle after this. What do you want me
to say? She said, I prefer you not to say anything,
and she didn't. So I think she definitely is a
(07:52):
trustworthy friend. And I mean, thank god she didn't, because
I think that just would have inflamed the whole situation
to another level. It'll be interesting to see when that
comes up at the reunion. I'm sure they'll roll some
of that footage back what Kyle's reaction will be when
she watches that back.
Speaker 1 (08:11):
Do you spend a lot of the episodes these days
looking at KRT Richard's lips, Like I spent a really
long time looking at how much she's rubbing them together
and eating food and like as in she looks like
she bought a mouth on team.
Speaker 2 (08:26):
I don't think you can like pass judgment when you're
wearing this face mask, and I'm looking at you in
this face mask because you know what I mean. But
Diana Jenkins, remember Diana Jenkins got a lot of stuff
said to her online because she kept licking her lips,
and she basically ended up saying, I actually didn't realize
that I did it that much.
Speaker 3 (08:44):
But it's the filler. It's the filler. You can't sort
of feel your lips as much.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
And you they're a bit numb, and you sort of
just touch them all because you know you can't feel them.
Speaker 3 (08:53):
So it must be the same thing. I haven't got
filler in my lips.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
I've contemplated it, and if I ever go down that road,
I'll report.
Speaker 3 (09:00):
You can tell me if I'm moving my lips together
too much.
Speaker 1 (09:03):
I'm here for Simla. I'm here for simlaa MacLean lip filler.
I don't know not to say that your lips are bad.
I'm just gonna quick a little.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
Bit that I feel like it's a little bit thin now,
Like I'm feeling like.
Speaker 1 (09:17):
Now, what happened? Do you think it's deflated over time?
Speaker 2 (09:19):
Yeah, they do, they deflate a little bit. It's the
collagen or something. I feel like this is where it starts,
and it's a slippery slope.
Speaker 3 (09:26):
I'm going to be.
Speaker 2 (09:27):
Looking like you know, God knows who in no time Wisner.
Speaker 3 (09:31):
Oh, yes, filler?
Speaker 1 (09:35):
So am I so good? The way that I would
say Sutton and Garcel also speculate over Kyle to every
detail is completely and utterly unhealthy. I mean, we know
my obsession with Kyle Riches is unhealthy. That is fine.
But the way that these women can only talk about
(09:57):
that when they get on the phone to each other, Oh,
I'm good.
Speaker 6 (10:01):
So how are you, by the way, random that Kyle
wants to have dinner tonight considering we're all going to
see each other tomorrow.
Speaker 7 (10:10):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (10:11):
You have to answer this question for me, but is
this normal behavior for women to focus in on one
particular friend in the friend group and go hard for them.
Speaker 3 (10:20):
I don't feel like.
Speaker 2 (10:22):
I mean, we only saw one part of that conversation,
but I was actually like yes, because I feel like
when Kyle organized that dinner for the night before, they
were onto it straight away. They were like, this is us.
Kyle's never done this before. She knows we're filming the
next day. She's not going to be like, hey, let's
have an impromptu dinner and they were like, she's trying
(10:43):
to rally the troops, which is what we talked about
last week. It was recruitment, it's getting allies, it's getting
a temperature check on where those other women are standing
on her with this text issue before she goes back
into battle the next day. And I think what we
ended up seeing was there a of those women not
being forthright and coming on her side and saying, yeah.
Speaker 3 (11:06):
Durt's out of line. You shouldn't feel bad for the
text blah blah blah.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
I think the fact that what happened at that dinner
and Garcel saying, you know, I think you probably should
have just said me and PK talk a little bit
of shit about you, blah blah blah.
Speaker 3 (11:19):
That would have been fine.
Speaker 6 (11:21):
If you said to her, you know what to read, Yeah,
I talk a little with PK about you because I
was also mad at you.
Speaker 1 (11:27):
That's also normal.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
I think when she realized those women were not going
to stand up for her in another group setting because
I didn't agree with her, I think she realized, I've
got a change tact here.
Speaker 3 (11:38):
I really need to, you know, change direction. I've got
a back down I've got.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
No one necessarily in my corner. I don't have the numbers,
and I've got nowhere else to go. And that's how
I think that played out on the beach.
Speaker 1 (11:50):
Carle certainly has and always has, and over time, anyone
that's collecting a dorser on this would know she got
patent behavior, you know, stuff that we see. But it
makes me wonder whether or not she's aware of it.
Do you think that she's as calculated as what everyone
thinks because I've been friends with I'm not going to
say women, because I actually don't want to say that.
(12:10):
I want to say all people. I've been friends with
people over time who aren't consciously manipulative, but leave themselves
open for others to suggest that they are, you know
what I mean. Like, I think that she's very lonely.
I think that she's very scared. I think there's a
lot of change happening in her life, and I think
it's natural to be like, Oh, I've got to go
(12:32):
to Garcel's beach house tomorrow. And the last time I
saw all these women in dressing gowns, they weren't that nice,
and so I'm going to really need to make sure
that I've got some friends to take with me. Is
that a bad thing?
Speaker 3 (12:44):
I don't think she's been.
Speaker 2 (12:46):
I don't want to say manipulative because I think that's
too strong of a word. But I think she's smart
enough to know how it plays out when you've been
on the show this long. And I think when they
rolled back all that footage, which again I was like, Oh.
Speaker 4 (13:02):
The questions, but that's what's going to have to happen.
She's going to have to answer more than she's comfortable with. Well,
that's because you know what we deserved another.
Speaker 3 (13:07):
Truth and I'm talking about it. I'm being more honest
in the group.
Speaker 4 (13:10):
Okay, So for me to be questioned ladies, women that
know me, it is extremely frustrating to me.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
The producers and then putting those edits in of all
the times that she has said you have to be
open and honest, she's going to have to answer all
the questions. She's going to have to say more than
she wants to. You need to say more.
Speaker 3 (13:29):
I thought, well, this is what it is.
Speaker 2 (13:31):
It's hypocrisy to sit there and say I don't have
to answer these questions, or you know, view it a
different way.
Speaker 3 (13:40):
And I think That's basically where it got to.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
And she realized the other women were not on her side.
She had to change TAC with the read And when
they sat down to have that beach conversation, I just thought.
Speaker 3 (13:51):
Wow, we she has put up the white flag.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
She's just gone, I've got nowhere else to go, and
whatever Duried.
Speaker 3 (13:57):
Says, I'm just going to go, yes, yes, yes, sir,
Yes sir, yes.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
Sir, and basically just hope that this whole thing gets
blown over and move on.
Speaker 1 (14:05):
Can I just jump back on a point that you
made about Kyle wanting people to be open and honest. Right,
what do we know about Sutton and her personal life? No?
Speaker 2 (14:13):
I feel like Sutton we still haven't seen as much,
but I just don't think there's as much there. I
think we're seeing Sutton, you know, do what she does best,
and that is stir the pot and get in there.
And when she sat on that couch and said Kyle, well,
why are we here? Like, I don't understand what the
apology is for. It's not really clear. You could see
Kyle was on the back foot.
Speaker 7 (14:34):
I got confused in all the words why you were apologizing?
So I just want to be very clear, but why
you felt like you needed to apologize.
Speaker 2 (14:43):
She was like, oh god, I thought I would just
say sorry and all these women be like, that's okay, babe,
Like you're going through a hard time to reach. Shouldn't
be coming for you. She should understand you've been the
best friend.
Speaker 3 (14:53):
But they pushed her.
Speaker 2 (14:55):
They pushed Kyle, and Kyle got put into an uncomfortable
place where she's like, Okay, well I've got no allies here.
Speaker 3 (15:01):
And I have to turn around on the direction.
Speaker 2 (15:04):
So to go back to your point about seeing them
on the couch and what they're going to.
Speaker 3 (15:08):
Say about their real life.
Speaker 2 (15:09):
I feel like Sutton has really stepped up on the
pot stirring, and I think that's what she'll be able
to hang a haut on. I mean, she would have
taken on that Lisa in a role in terms of
wanting the accountability from people.
Speaker 1 (15:22):
Lisa Brenner was accused of that for nine seasons of
her being on the show or something like that around
about that sort of episode, that that amount of seasons,
you know, stirring the pot and earning her you know,
earning her diamond by just being that not talking about
the family too much, like we never really got to
know Harry Hamlin that well, and even with the girls,
(15:43):
like we really didn't get to know them that well.
We've got to know her mum. But I mean, I
think she showed enough.
Speaker 2 (15:48):
I just don't think Sutton has as much to show
us there. I mean, I find her very strange personality.
I feel like, you know, when Dereitt's opening her heart
out in the kitchen, saying, oh my god, my son's
finally asked this question about whether we're getting divorced, and
she's like, okay, so we'll wrap it up and get.
Speaker 3 (16:05):
In the cut. Like she's strange.
Speaker 2 (16:07):
She's strange, cookie, strange, pumpkin, I think, is what Darite
said before.
Speaker 3 (16:12):
I was rudely interrupted, Well, sorry, we got we do
have any.
Speaker 1 (16:17):
This was a wall of the story.
Speaker 3 (16:20):
Of all times. To interrupt Sutton. This is not it.
But you know that's the role that she plays.
Speaker 2 (16:28):
That's what makes more interesting television, and you know it
brings a difficult conversation to the table sometimes, but it
needs to be had.
Speaker 1 (16:37):
I don't know, talk to me about the weight loss
that you had between the last season and this season.
I know we're talking and we're skirting on very difficult
grounds because I don't think it's comfortable or the right
thing to talk about people's physical appearance. But I guess
what I'm trying to say is I just would like
to know a little bit more about her as a person,
Like I just feel like we've learned that from other people.
I'd like the veil to be lifted. I'd like to
(16:59):
be less plots doing and more humanizing yourself to us,
because at the moment when you interrupt a conversation like
what Durite was having about something very serious, and I'm
sure that even people that don't like Drete would have
found it really uncomfortable to watch a woman talking about
her child like that, opening up and then being interrupted
to be like, oh my god, it was so cruel.
Speaker 2 (17:20):
It was very bizarre, and I don't know how you
could read a room that badly.
Speaker 3 (17:26):
I really, I really don't.
Speaker 2 (17:27):
I mean, we see in the mid season trailer, just
to jump to that for a second, her having a
goal at Drete and saying, well, mar Wilett's bigger, So
there is obviously something coming there. But I think that's
I think, you know, when you start to think if
comments like that are coming out of your mouth.
Speaker 3 (17:43):
You really do think that you are in a different league.
She's getting that.
Speaker 2 (17:48):
Three hundred and fifty grand a month from her ex husband.
She has so much money. But then I feel like,
when you're saying things like that, you actually do believe
you're on a different level, and she just must think
is not on the same level as her. She doesn't
want to play with her. She doesn't see her the
same way. She doesn't see her value. I'm so distracted
(18:09):
with you taking off this mask. You're taking off your
face mask. I can barely strength sentence together. You've got
like a little mustache section left. You look like Bono
Via Like, I'm so stup I can't what are you doing.
I have to like not look at you. I can't
think of what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (18:26):
It's really bad.
Speaker 2 (18:27):
Most of this episode I felt quite distracted, so.
Speaker 3 (18:30):
My points aren't landing.
Speaker 2 (18:32):
It's because I'm watching benst transition of a black face
mask for his skin and is coming off in pieces.
Speaker 1 (18:40):
Okay, a little bit of context for anyone that's playing
along in the background. Yeah, look, I don't know. Drep
is an interesting one for Sudden. Sudden's never been able
to see the other women on the show that she
doesn't see that she doesn't care for. So I think
that's what we're seeing in a conversation about her best
friend Garcel, she will be very much on it, do
you know what I mean? Where I don't know. I
(19:01):
just think that she's just as like waiting for you
to go or it's low hanging fruit for her.
Speaker 2 (19:07):
Well, one thing that did become a parent was when
she said in her confessional, you know, Gussell and I
are night minions. I very much was like, Oh, you've
just solidified what the online world has been talking.
Speaker 3 (19:19):
About for years is that you guys are an allegiance.
Speaker 2 (19:22):
You are together, you are a package deal, and whatever
one does, the other one backs up. Those two are
like two peas in a pod and they very much
go in the same direction.
Speaker 1 (19:33):
Do you think that these women would be friends in
everyday circumstances? Like, do you think that they've gelled together
just to have an alliance on this show?
Speaker 3 (19:39):
I mean, I feel.
Speaker 2 (19:40):
Like Beverly Hills is a bit strange in that sense,
isn't it. Everyone's always talking about Beverly Hills level of
friendship rather than real friendship. I mean, I think there's
some solid friendships that have emerged from the show.
Speaker 3 (19:51):
And I think, you know.
Speaker 2 (19:52):
Erica and Lisa Rinna definitely. I think Kyle and Teddy definitely.
I think we're seeing Deret and Bows now having a relationship.
So I mean, it's not to say that there can't
be genuine relationships formed. And I mean I would have
put Kyle and to Read in that category as being
really good friends. I never could understand when Kyle was
trying to diminish that friendship. I still feel confused about
(20:14):
what happened there. And she came out guns blazing and
she scramped to find all these excuses that she was
mad at with Dread And then we saw them sitting
on the beach and d'uried saying, well, did you consider.
Speaker 3 (20:24):
Us good friends? And she says yes, that's her answer.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
But I'm like, if we went back four episodes ago,
five episodes ago, she was saying, well, I didn't consider
us that good of friends. We only went on one trip,
blah blah blah. She was singing a completely different story.
She flipped on that beach. Did you not see that?
Speaker 1 (20:41):
M Yeah, I mean that's where this episode goes, and
that's where we end is where we get the girls
on the beach together. I don't know about you, and
I kind of feel like I know your answer anyway,
but I just felt like to read at the bar
and to read on the beach infuriated me.
Speaker 7 (20:57):
When you wrote to him and you said, you know,
I've never repeated anything that you said. I know, I
know that you were making him feel like he can
talk to you, and you're not going to repeat it
to me.
Speaker 1 (21:10):
She's trying to make Kyle completely accountable and responsible for
a whole lot of behavior. And I'm not sure whether
Deret is really wanting to own her part in this
as well, because at the end of the day, Teddy
Mellencamp ended up with a friendship with Kyle because she
rang her outside of the show and she hung out
with her outside of the show, and their lives and
their likes and dislikes were similar. Everyone knows right from
(21:32):
the start when the season wasn't on deurit was never
with Kyle Richards. They were not having a friendship outside
of the show. So like dereit does need to think
about it's like this, and I'm sure you've been there
as well with friends. When friends come and tell you
about a problem that they're having. In a friend group,
they come and tell you about what they're upset about.
I always feel like you have to say to them,
(21:53):
but what is it that you can own here, because
that's all you can control. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (21:57):
Look, I think things get messy and they get complicated,
and you know, that's where Eric has been. She's been
stuck in the middle where you genuinely can see something
quite often from both sides, and.
Speaker 3 (22:08):
It's a very hard sort of spot to be as
a friend.
Speaker 2 (22:10):
But I think where it started with the beef with
those two was about the diminishing of the friendship and
Kyle not talking to her and all these other things,
and then where it sort of landed was more to
do with the text and the lying about the text
and not being honest sort of about the full nature
of the friendship with p K.
Speaker 3 (22:30):
And that's sort of it sort of overtook.
Speaker 2 (22:33):
I guess the initial issues that we saw in those
first few episodes, but I think in terms.
Speaker 3 (22:39):
Of the text, that's where the focus.
Speaker 2 (22:42):
Has been, and that's where I think Kyle realized she
had nowhere else to turn, she.
Speaker 3 (22:46):
Had nowhere to go. She just had to back down.
Speaker 2 (22:48):
I don't think she. I mean, she didn't say look sorry,
I was in the role. She's just sort of said, sorry,
I am your friend, my loyalty will be with you,
and I'll stop doing that.
Speaker 3 (22:59):
So that's kind of where it finished up.
Speaker 2 (23:02):
I think it was nice to see them have nice
conversation on the beach, having a hug at the end there.
I thought it was I thought it was quite good
and I'll be interested to see where that friendship kind
of goes to from here.
Speaker 3 (23:12):
But yeah, I don't know. I always thought they were
good friends. I really did.
Speaker 1 (23:16):
In twenty twenty five. What I find really interesting is
people talking about girl groups and boy groups and talking
about gender specific groups that people are obligatory, obliged to
be a part of. You know, you're not being a
girl's girl. Well, you're not a guy's guy. You're not this.
Well we're moving further away from that. What is wrong
(23:36):
with Kyle having a friendship? She met them both at
the same time, PK and Darte. She met them both
at the same time. She's had an equal friendship with
both of them. Why is she obliged to pick the
girl's side. Why is she obliged to be the girl's
girl isn't what I think she's obliged.
Speaker 3 (23:52):
But she was the one that used that phrase. She
was like, I'm a girl's girl. I wouldn't do that
to you.
Speaker 2 (23:57):
She was the one that put that phrasing out there,
and she was the one that was trying to sort
of hang.
Speaker 3 (24:01):
Her hat on there. But this is what everyone was
trying to get to the bottom of.
Speaker 2 (24:04):
Had she just said to be honest with you, PK
and I get along super well, you and I weren't
really talking. I appreciate his friendship more. And that's just
kind of where it was at. I think everyone would
have been happier with that, And I think that's what
Garcel and someton were trying to get to the bottom of,
just her being honest about that and actually saying it,
rather than trying to spin the narrative and sort of
(24:27):
get all these other people onside to sort of put
to read back.
Speaker 3 (24:30):
In a corner and silence her about it. I think
if she'd have just said that, everyone would have been fine.
Speaker 2 (24:35):
What everyone was trying to point out was the years
of demanding honesty from other people and then her not
wanting to be honest about it.
Speaker 3 (24:42):
Herself.
Speaker 2 (24:43):
That's where the issue was, was the lack of accountability.
Speaker 1 (24:46):
Yeah, I don't know. I guess I wonder why I
kicked you know, I've listened back to some of the
chats that we've had, and I get really infuriated with
me not answering some of your questions. Sometimes I'm just
really struggling with the reasons as to why I can't
answer specific questions that you've asked me every week. And
I don't know whether it's just because I'm flying blind
with my love of Kyle Richards, but I just sometimes that's.
Speaker 3 (25:08):
What it is. No, I do think that's what it is.
It's not it's not that I feel.
Speaker 2 (25:13):
Like I'm not understanding where your defensive her is coming from.
And you know, I'm like a huge Carle Richards fans too,
and I think most of the people that watch.
Speaker 3 (25:22):
This show are. But I think in this situation, she
has been wrong.
Speaker 2 (25:27):
I thought it on the premiere, I thought it the
whole way through, and I've thought it with this tech scandal,
she's been wrong. She's been hiding whatever the hell she
was actually pissed about, and I think she has played
it wrong. And I think she you know, she had
to back down.
Speaker 3 (25:40):
She just had to.
Speaker 2 (25:41):
But I think she's done that to try and sweep
it over, not because she genuinely believes that she was
in the wrong.
Speaker 1 (25:48):
There's a few things that we haven't touched on in
this episode that we need to backtrack over. Just a
couple of things, and that was what about to read
when she did bring up Jagger, when she brought up
her son, and being shocked and being blindsided by that
question from a ten year old.
Speaker 7 (26:04):
Are you and Daddy divorced? I said, no, what you know?
What makes you ask that? And he says, well, he said,
did you post something on Instagram?
Speaker 1 (26:15):
Would you, by this stage be that ignorant to think
that your child would not be on social media? Like
you can't hide? I think some of the goals.
Speaker 2 (26:23):
This is where it's different because she homeschools. She gets
those kids homeschooled. Oh yeah, So this is where I
think there was the initial thought process that, well, I've
kind of got control of their environment and they're not
necessarily going to have access to this information, nor are
they going to be interacting on the daily other people's
(26:43):
kids or whatever, and in that sort of typical setting.
So I think that's where she did think that she
had a little bit more assertion over what information they
could have or not have, or sort of trying to
buy herself some time, you know, But I think that's
a decision that both of them should have been making together.
I don't know where they he was in agreeance with that.
We sort of haven't heard any differently. She just said,
(27:05):
I've tried to protect the kids. But look, it was
this heartbreaking moment. I mean, I'm sure that was, you know,
awful to have to sit there and tell him, But
you could tell that other women were sort of like, well,
what was coming?
Speaker 7 (27:16):
Dull?
Speaker 2 (27:17):
Like you know what I mean, like your time's run out,
Like you're going to have to.
Speaker 3 (27:21):
Deal with it. It's part of it. It's happening, and
this is the landscape that we're living in.
Speaker 2 (27:26):
So you know, even though you've bought yourself a couple
of extra weeks of not having to deal with it,
surely you didn't think that that was going to go
on too much longer.
Speaker 1 (27:34):
I mean, you can build yourself a stick house, you
can build yourself a strawhouse, you can build yourself a
brick house, and you've got to make sure that you've
prepared yourself to be able to tackle this situation. I mean,
at the end of the day, all three scenarios could
see you being eaten by the big bad wolf. But
at least prepare your children with the information that they
have armed them with information I think to help them
(27:54):
prepare themselves. I don't know. I don't have children, and
I feel like someone's going to come for me in
the online comments section when I say this, But I
actually feel like there was a bit of negligence on
behalf of PK and dear by not having that conversation
with Jagger because you left him open.
Speaker 2 (28:09):
Well, I just think that they've obviously tried to do
what they think is right, and whether you know it
has been a better outcome or worse, you know, we'll
never know because we don't get to see the other
side play out. But what we did get to see
was someton cutting off that conversation going well, anyway, speaking
of best friends, we've got to get to garselves. That
to me spoke volumes because she almost had that attitude
(28:31):
of like, we told you this was.
Speaker 3 (28:32):
Going to happen. We were wrong, you were wrong.
Speaker 2 (28:35):
I can't be bothered talking about this anymore? What the
fuck did you think was going to happen? You're an
idiot and I just want to get to my friend's
house and.
Speaker 3 (28:41):
Poorous spirits like that. It had a real, like, you.
Speaker 2 (28:45):
Know, dismissive overtone to it, and I think, you know,
that was definitely very evident.
Speaker 1 (28:51):
I think you're onto something that you know. I hadn't
thought about it from that perspective, but I do think
you're onto it. I also think that the other women,
they don't seem to appreciate garselves beach House as much
as Garcel appreciates.
Speaker 3 (29:02):
Her beach house beach House.
Speaker 1 (29:04):
But I think it's kind of like the rest of
the women must look at the beach House like most
people look at like getting a caravan, you know what
I mean. No one seems to be appreciating poor Garcel
with this beach house as much as she is. Do
you think it's I.
Speaker 2 (29:17):
Feel like the beach House is almost a friend of
like the beach House. This season has overtaken Kathy Hilton,
and the beach House needs like a credit line, do
you know what I mean? Like it is every episode
we're getting Beach House updates. I mean, aside from the
fact that that light shade made of the shells.
Speaker 3 (29:36):
I was like, girl, that is strange choice. But you know,
I think, yeah, it does symbolize a lot of her,
you know, where she was, where she is.
Speaker 2 (29:46):
I think we've got to see a lot of that
from a viewer point of view, because she talks about
a lot in her confessionals.
Speaker 3 (29:51):
But you're right. I think the girls just went.
Speaker 2 (29:52):
They were like, oh, cool, congrats, Like it's fun, let's
have a shampez.
Speaker 3 (29:56):
We're freezing. We're freezing. We're cold. We're cold. We're so cold.
Speaker 2 (30:00):
I didn't really see the full pomp and ceremony to
you know, congratulate her.
Speaker 1 (30:04):
You're right, no one's come to the party and said, well, Garcelle,
we love this place. I mean, Kyle looked more excited
about the Papatobico, pimper de Paco, pep department whatever. She
looked more excited about that, And we know she was
faking that.
Speaker 5 (30:20):
You know.
Speaker 1 (30:20):
No one was like gasel yay. I mean, here's a
toaster that's from Gucci. I mean, let me tell you
when they said it was seven hundred dollars, I was like,
a seven hundred American, that's a fac.
Speaker 3 (30:30):
And T cut. Is it an ad to cut moment
for Benjamin Norris?
Speaker 1 (30:33):
When I watched on the show in Garcelle's house, I
was like, no, I want to introduce something new to
our podcast. What was your favorite moment of this episode?
Speaker 2 (30:42):
Oh, I think it would have to be the reconciliation.
Speaker 3 (30:45):
I actually do.
Speaker 5 (30:46):
You know.
Speaker 2 (30:46):
What I do appreciate about Kyle and Dread is that
they are very logical people, and I think it is
nice to see that kind of calm conversation.
Speaker 3 (30:56):
I think even when they've been fighting.
Speaker 2 (30:57):
They've still been cordial to each other at the air
and how you hugger a kiss like, I think they've
actually handled it quite well despite the level of frustration
that they've both felt. So I think it was nice
to see that resolution come to a point where it
was just them on the beach.
Speaker 3 (31:12):
Having a hug.
Speaker 2 (31:13):
I think they both sort of, you know, will deread
I think felt heard and seen at that point, and
I think that's all she really wanted, So I would
have to say that was the best moment.
Speaker 7 (31:22):
What I would like to see is that we get
to a police where we're able to have conversations and
feel comfortable telling one another how we feel.
Speaker 1 (31:34):
My favorite moment of the whole episode goes to someone
that you and I don't always appreciate. That's something turning
up at the lunch and going what are we here for?
Speaker 3 (31:44):
I gotta ask why are we here? With the apology?
I just why you're apologizing now?
Speaker 1 (31:51):
Oh my god, the lead up to I just want
to be clear on what you're apologizing for.
Speaker 2 (31:55):
And you know, another funny moment I'll give my silver
medal was when they were trying to do those lanterns
and Bos's just went off down the beach, looking like
a hollowed out tampon, just flying.
Speaker 3 (32:07):
Down the beach.
Speaker 2 (32:09):
It's like the wishes and the dreams are not coming
through today. The lantern is not going up, and can
someone please get that litter off the beach?
Speaker 4 (32:17):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (32:17):
Look a dead bird?
Speaker 2 (32:19):
Yeah, the dead bird. Oh that was a bit scary.
I was like, oh God, it's a symbol.
Speaker 1 (32:25):
It's a symbol. So I want to ask you before
we talk about the mid season promo while I put
myself together, is how many Alana mcleans do we have?
Or actually we'll change it to how many spritzers do
you give? This episode?
Speaker 2 (32:40):
I liked it. I liked it. I did like it.
I don't I don't think I liked it as much
as a week before. Maybe, but I'll not give it
at four. I think it was decent. I think it
was good to have the resolution moment, and I think
it was very good to sort of have that sort
of resolution. And then we got the mid season trially,
because it sort of felt like to your point last week,
when you were I think this is dragging on? Is
(33:02):
this all it's going to be for the whole season,
it sort of felt like that had been bookended a
little bit.
Speaker 1 (33:07):
I'm going to go with the four point five again,
And the reason for that is that I do think
that there was some really good pacing in this where
there was nothing really wasted. I really enjoyed that we
saw very little of Jennifer Tilly, thank you. And then
we also we got some really interesting conversations. You know,
something that we didn't touch on was Garcel and Kyle
talking about Garcel repeating stuff that Kyle had given her.
Speaker 3 (33:30):
That particular day.
Speaker 4 (33:31):
I was kind of like Kime and sat down and
then and all of a sudden goes you need to
show the text to everyone, And then Eric I was like, well,
hold on a minute, Garceon went to Bowls the day
after puck you cheese, And then I was like, you don't.
Speaker 3 (33:43):
Even know her.
Speaker 6 (33:44):
I don't feel like me sharing that information about the
text of Bows is a violation to Kyle, a betrayaled
to cut.
Speaker 1 (33:51):
That was some really interesting conversation amongst two women, because
I think it was something they could have easily tried
to step over, and both of these went with their
opinions pretty hard, and we're still leaving space for each
other to be heard. I thought that was really compelling.
Speaker 2 (34:10):
Yeah, I agree with you, and I think I think, well,
I think Garsell's actually one of the best at doing that.
I think what we what we see from her, she
will follow through on what she wants to say, and
I'll you know, credit where credits due.
Speaker 1 (34:23):
Mid season promo, I thought it was really weak. I
thought it was a bit undercooked. You know, I don't
know if we got to see enough, Like I think
that the back end of the season was being shown
more as fashion holidays and good hearted, good fun girl time.
Speaker 7 (34:40):
Later this season and the Real Housewives of Beverly Hill
strated you let.
Speaker 1 (34:44):
Her grab your sister?
Speaker 3 (34:45):
Where's she going, well, go to.
Speaker 5 (34:50):
I have a bomb.
Speaker 3 (34:54):
She's a woman on the d world. A man wants
a divorce. We're getting a divorce.
Speaker 7 (35:00):
There's a lot in California community property.
Speaker 3 (35:02):
You and get half.
Speaker 1 (35:03):
He's trying to divorce you before ten years.
Speaker 3 (35:05):
Oh hell no, h really, I'm sorry for hurrying you.
I would never want to hurt you on her person.
Speaker 5 (35:12):
Do you guys think that you like move in together
like before when I got married.
Speaker 6 (35:17):
She would just love to hear you say that you
love her too.
Speaker 7 (35:20):
I don't think that's any of your business.
Speaker 3 (35:25):
You're such a bitch.
Speaker 7 (35:27):
Don't call me a bitch in my home for sake.
Speaker 5 (35:30):
If somebody wants in my house and calls me a bitch,
those are fighting words.
Speaker 7 (35:34):
You need to pick on somebody else who'se wallet gits
think you're bigger than her.
Speaker 4 (35:38):
I think my wallet is you paulose as a friend
and then oftentimes work as an enemy.
Speaker 3 (35:43):
What do you think want from me? Last week? I'm
crazy yacht from hell?
Speaker 1 (35:50):
No? No, no, I'm going to give the mid season promo
one star.
Speaker 3 (35:55):
Oh I know, I feel like I'll give it a
bit more than that.
Speaker 2 (35:58):
I was very interested to see where that to eat
and Sutton Beef goes around the wallet comment because I
think that opens up a whole class debate that maybe
we haven't really seen openly where she thinks lower of her,
she thinks less of her, So we're interested to see
where that goes.
Speaker 3 (36:14):
The Kyle and Maurisio, you.
Speaker 2 (36:16):
Know, there's some kind of emotional moment there that we
saw is like, I'm really sorry, wodn't got to hurt
you on purpose? She's builing her eyes out. The vein
makes another appearance in the forehead. Keen to see where
that goes. And I think the fun sort of cast
trip in Instant Lucia because I think, you know, we
saw some shitty budget, half baked cast trip on a
beach somewhere at the beginning of the season with Kathy
(36:39):
Hilton delivering hats to people, and then we've seen this
beach episode kind of again. I'm like, I want some glamour.
I want like cast trip, like I want that to deliver.
I want opulence, I want elegance, I want you know,
I want all the things. So I'm keen to see that.
So I feel like I'll give it more than man,
I'll give it three.
Speaker 1 (36:57):
If you could write, like a question to Andy Cohen
for the reunion mid season, would you have a question?
Because you actually do send Andy Cohen questions, and I'd
be very shocked. I'd be very shocked if we don't
at some point soon see him read one of your questions,
because they're always very good.
Speaker 2 (37:13):
Oh my god, you've put me on the spot. Oh
my god, oh my god.
Speaker 3 (37:17):
Would you have on? What would it be?
Speaker 1 (37:19):
Andy Cohen? Dick pick? No, I'm kidding, he'd probably.
Speaker 2 (37:25):
Say, yeah, So, I mean, who knows. You know, I'm
going to come back to you on.
Speaker 1 (37:30):
These I think we're both going to come back.
Speaker 2 (37:31):
I think I thinks that's anyone that wants to sort
of chime in send DM.
Speaker 3 (37:37):
Maybe we can throw a few of the.
Speaker 2 (37:38):
Questions out so that everyone can hear, and then you know,
why don't we just send them in?
Speaker 1 (37:42):
We can send them in, We can chew on that.
What's on for the weekend? Are you day sparring? Day drinking?
What do you do well?
Speaker 3 (37:50):
Day drunk? Through this episode? So that's been quite nice. No,
I've got like a.
Speaker 2 (37:54):
Work function on tonight and then I'm just going to
try and chill this weekend.
Speaker 3 (37:58):
I'm trying to like not do as much saving for
trying to be a little bit more select.
Speaker 2 (38:04):
You just take it down a little not but you know,
we say that, and then next minute I'll be like,
WELLT de clare.
Speaker 1 (38:11):
It's impromptu karaoke YouTube, husband, Robbie, sit down and watch.
Speaker 3 (38:19):
With Kylie Minogue's back catalog.
Speaker 1 (38:23):
Well, I'm going to leave you with I'm going to
go and see Natalie Bassingthwait in Shirley Valentine tonight. So
I'm gonna have to go and put on some sort
of red carpet outfit and peel the rest of the
face mask off.
Speaker 2 (38:35):
Please never come on the podcast with that face mask
on again. I feel like the first twenty minutes.
Speaker 3 (38:40):
Of that I was so distracted.
Speaker 2 (38:43):
It was so funny to watch the transition, the moments
of it all falling off.
Speaker 3 (38:48):
But look, never a dull moment with you, my darling.
Speaker 1 (38:52):
Next too soon, Okay, love you bye,
It's in the news today, but it was actually on
TV Reload the podcast last week. Thereby, Hey, guys, welcome
back to TV Reload. I want to thank you for
clicking and downloading on today's episode with my friend Alana McLean,
my fact checker, my housewife, Right or Die, and the
best person to spar with over some ladies that we
act like we know but in fact we will never meet.
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We have another top shelf episode for you this week.
The ninth episode of Beverly Hills season fourteen is called
Beachy Keen and guys, we got some resolution with Kyle
and Dereete, and thank god we did not have to
wait till the end of the season. That is all
I'm saying. We will discuss the way in which Erica
chooses to navigate what she repeats to Kyle about Dereete
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to keep her nose clean. I will get Alana's perspective
on Sutton's lack of ability to read a room, which
her reaction to that awkward interruption of Dereet will go
down in Real Housewives history. We will also address that
decision to not tell your children that you've separated from
their father. You were going to get plenty of speculation
on the mid season preview, what were our favorite parts
(01:05):
of episode nine and a request from our listeners on
what Andy Cohen should be preparing to ask these women
when we get to the reunion. There's actually so much
to talk about, with so many inside revelations from Alara
and myself. So guys, sit back and relax as we
unpacked the wonderful world of Real Housewives at Beverly Hills
Season fourteen, Episode nine. How are you, by the way,
(01:28):
are you well?
Speaker 2 (01:30):
Just having a Limonicello spirits? And I'm on the countdown
to Italy and I'm going to pretend I'm on a
cast troop when I'm over there, except I haven't told
my husband. That's the kind of mentality that I'm going
into the trip with.
Speaker 3 (01:43):
So when I.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
Watched back all the other women.
Speaker 3 (01:46):
Well, I was watching back on old series ten.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
I think it was when they go to Rome and
I was writing down all the name of the bars
and everything, and then Robbie, we can't afford to go
to any of those places, like, please stop doing that,
And I was like, well, you'll just say.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
Oh my god. For the people listening to this, I'm
wearing a face mask. So I sound a little bit weird.
It's because I'm restricted. My face is restricted.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
It's everyone's strength come true. Then Norris can no longer talk.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
This is what you're here for.
Speaker 3 (02:15):
Oh my gosh, I love it.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
You look out standing, and you just you can look
even better in about half an hour from now.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
Well, I can tell you that I've been drinking green
juices because they're meant to be really good for my
skin and for feeling better, like gut health, you know,
mind health or whatever the fuck that is. And he's
kind of working. I don't know what's going on, Like, yeah,
so gross, but good for my mental health.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
Okay, well that's great. I'm feeling quite bad about my
limon cello choice. Then, given it's only two pm in
the afternoon here.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
The confidence of a person that knows that no one
from their work is listening to this podcast is declaring.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
I just like I heard it back and I thought
it out of context. People are going to think you've
gone too far there, cracking a drink at two perre.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
I'm getting that on a T shirt. I don't know
what you're talking about, or what or what psychotictic I
want to start by asking something which I've been thinking
about a week. Has your opinion of Bozma and someone
who corrected me online last week for you and I
calling it Bozman?
Speaker 3 (03:21):
Oh my god?
Speaker 2 (03:22):
Was it just to actually feel like I've been meaning
to tell you this for four weeks and every time
we do it, I'm like, oh, well, we've already said it.
Now we've moved on. I think I've just called her bows.
But then I'm like, hang on, I think it's just
bos muf. Okay, we've been corrected. Apologies, apologies, bows and muf.
Speaker 1 (03:41):
Yeah, we have been corrected. But look, it's totally fine.
But I think I really want to start the podcast
by talking about Bozmak because I want to know is
your opinion of her changed? Because very Salt Lake City, Bronwyn,
I'm getting the feeling as though we let her believe.
We kind of allowed our minds to think that she
having the perfect season, but yet on reflection, is she
(04:03):
as good as what we thought she was?
Speaker 2 (04:05):
I think she's better. I am loving her more with
each episode. I love the fact that she I feel
had the perfect balance of observation and then also getting involved.
So I feel like we have got to see some
of her personal life. I feel like we've got to
see her friendship with Derete actually flourish. I don't think
(04:25):
that is you know, behind the scenes as well. I
don't think it's a fake friendship. I think it's a
real friendship. And they've traveled together. She was in New
York together. They were celebrating Boza's birthday over there, and
Derete and I feel like, you know, her reads on
everyone have just been so spot on. So for me,
she's elevated. I liked her in the first couple of episodes,
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and she's still on the trajectory for me?
Speaker 3 (04:48):
Is she not for you?
Speaker 1 (04:50):
No, I don't know what's happened?
Speaker 3 (04:51):
Well, you're off her.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
Yeah, the Bosma has curdled.
Speaker 4 (04:54):
I just.
Speaker 1 (04:56):
I just feel like she's going so so hard for
Kyle Richards. Kyle continues to lie.
Speaker 5 (05:06):
She's lying about the depth of her relationship with Pique
and what she's saying about Dorrie. She's clearly lying about
the depth of her knowledge about what's going on.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
And look, let's not just leave that with bose mut
All of these women are going so hard for her,
and I just I just don't know if Bozman's the
right person to go after Kyle. Does she really know
her well enough to be really saying as much as
what she says? I mean, maybe she's just playing defense
and when she catches up at direct, you know, it's
just very easy for her to go.
Speaker 3 (05:36):
I don't feel like she's come for Kyle.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
All she did was basically at that last episode say,
I think you should read the text. I think in
her confessionals she has said some stuff.
Speaker 3 (05:46):
But I think it's been warranted.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
And I don't think she's actually come for Kyle face
to face, don't.
Speaker 3 (05:52):
I don't think she has. I think she's asked the
questions that everyone else will be asking, what do you
want to talk about? Willis?
Speaker 2 (05:58):
She's been quite quite fair who in her questions to
Kyle as of all the women, And I just don't
think Kyle was banking on everyone turning against her. That's
what That's basically what it's come down to, and that's
what the penny dropped for a few of those women
at that precursor dinner before they.
Speaker 3 (06:16):
Went to Garcel's beach house.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
That's when she realized, I don't have the troops on
my side. I need to change direction.
Speaker 1 (06:23):
I mean, we need to get into that. But one
thing I will give you, Bosma, She's definitely not there
to fuck spiders this season.
Speaker 4 (06:30):
She is back.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
I love that it's such an Aussie saying, but it's
truly she. I mean, she has signed seal delivered that
diamond for next year, honey.
Speaker 1 (06:41):
If she wants it.
Speaker 3 (06:42):
If she wants it, let's hope she does.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (06:45):
Yeah, I like someone who's willing to give it. There all,
you know, Erica not feeding back her conversation with Derete
from the day spar in the previous episode was proof
to me that she's actually being a very good friend
to both of these women, because she was able to
get on that phone call and talk to Kyle and
give Kyle good advice. When she was brought up on
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the Erica Durradi phone call.
Speaker 3 (07:10):
He's Siri FaceTime, Erica Girardi.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
Thanks Kyle for not changing her name to not Girardi.
But anyway, maybe that's what her name is. I don't know.
I think everyone's calling her Erica Jane. But I thought
if that was me, I would have said, you know
what you got? You know what my girl said yesterday
about you? She wants me to pick aside, you know,
but she didn't do that.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
No, she didn't, And I think she's shown that she
is very trustworthy. I think when Dereit first came to
her and said, you know PK and I getting separated
that we saw in the season premiere, and she didn't
and she said, look, I'm going to be honest with you.
I'm seeing Kyle after this. What do you want me
to say? She said, I prefer you not to say anything,
and she didn't. So I think she definitely is a
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trustworthy friend. And I mean, thank god she didn't, because
I think that just would have inflamed the whole situation
to another level. It'll be interesting to see when that
comes up at the reunion. I'm sure they'll roll some
of that footage back what Kyle's reaction will be when
she watches that back.
Speaker 1 (08:11):
Do you spend a lot of the episodes these days
looking at KRT Richard's lips, Like I spent a really
long time looking at how much she's rubbing them together
and eating food and like as in she looks like
she bought a mouth on team.
Speaker 2 (08:26):
I don't think you can like pass judgment when you're
wearing this face mask, and I'm looking at you in
this face mask because you know what I mean. But
Diana Jenkins, remember Diana Jenkins got a lot of stuff
said to her online because she kept licking her lips,
and she basically ended up saying, I actually didn't realize
that I did it that much.
Speaker 3 (08:44):
But it's the filler. It's the filler. You can't sort
of feel your lips as much.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
And you they're a bit numb, and you sort of
just touch them all because you know you can't feel them.
Speaker 3 (08:53):
So it must be the same thing. I haven't got
filler in my lips.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
I've contemplated it, and if I ever go down that road,
I'll report.
Speaker 3 (09:00):
You can tell me if I'm moving my lips together
too much.
Speaker 1 (09:03):
I'm here for Simla. I'm here for simlaa MacLean lip filler.
I don't know not to say that your lips are bad.
I'm just gonna quick a little.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
Bit that I feel like it's a little bit thin now,
Like I'm feeling like.
Speaker 1 (09:17):
Now, what happened? Do you think it's deflated over time?
Speaker 2 (09:19):
Yeah, they do, they deflate a little bit. It's the
collagen or something. I feel like this is where it starts,
and it's a slippery slope.
Speaker 3 (09:26):
I'm going to be.
Speaker 2 (09:27):
Looking like you know, God knows who in no time Wisner.
Speaker 3 (09:31):
Oh, yes, filler?
Speaker 1 (09:35):
So am I so good? The way that I would
say Sutton and Garcel also speculate over Kyle to every
detail is completely and utterly unhealthy. I mean, we know
my obsession with Kyle Riches is unhealthy. That is fine.
But the way that these women can only talk about
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that when they get on the phone to each other, Oh,
I'm good.
Speaker 6 (10:01):
So how are you, by the way, random that Kyle
wants to have dinner tonight considering we're all going to
see each other tomorrow.
Speaker 7 (10:10):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (10:11):
You have to answer this question for me, but is
this normal behavior for women to focus in on one
particular friend in the friend group and go hard for them.
Speaker 3 (10:20):
I don't feel like.
Speaker 2 (10:22):
I mean, we only saw one part of that conversation,
but I was actually like yes, because I feel like
when Kyle organized that dinner for the night before, they
were onto it straight away. They were like, this is us.
Kyle's never done this before. She knows we're filming the
next day. She's not going to be like, hey, let's
have an impromptu dinner and they were like, she's trying
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to rally the troops, which is what we talked about
last week. It was recruitment, it's getting allies, it's getting
a temperature check on where those other women are standing
on her with this text issue before she goes back
into battle the next day. And I think what we
ended up seeing was there a of those women not
being forthright and coming on her side and saying, yeah.
Speaker 3 (11:06):
Durt's out of line. You shouldn't feel bad for the
text blah blah blah.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
I think the fact that what happened at that dinner
and Garcel saying, you know, I think you probably should
have just said me and PK talk a little bit
of shit about you, blah blah blah.
Speaker 3 (11:19):
That would have been fine.
Speaker 6 (11:21):
If you said to her, you know what to read, Yeah,
I talk a little with PK about you because I
was also mad at you.
Speaker 1 (11:27):
That's also normal.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
I think when she realized those women were not going
to stand up for her in another group setting because
I didn't agree with her, I think she realized, I've
got a change tact here.
Speaker 3 (11:38):
I really need to, you know, change direction. I've got
a back down I've got.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
No one necessarily in my corner. I don't have the numbers,
and I've got nowhere else to go. And that's how
I think that played out on the beach.
Speaker 1 (11:50):
Carle certainly has and always has, and over time, anyone
that's collecting a dorser on this would know she got
patent behavior, you know, stuff that we see. But it
makes me wonder whether or not she's aware of it.
Do you think that she's as calculated as what everyone
thinks because I've been friends with I'm not going to
say women, because I actually don't want to say that.
(12:10):
I want to say all people. I've been friends with
people over time who aren't consciously manipulative, but leave themselves
open for others to suggest that they are, you know
what I mean. Like, I think that she's very lonely.
I think that she's very scared. I think there's a
lot of change happening in her life, and I think
it's natural to be like, Oh, I've got to go
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to Garcel's beach house tomorrow. And the last time I
saw all these women in dressing gowns, they weren't that nice,
and so I'm going to really need to make sure
that I've got some friends to take with me. Is
that a bad thing?
Speaker 3 (12:44):
I don't think she's been.
Speaker 2 (12:46):
I don't want to say manipulative because I think that's
too strong of a word. But I think she's smart
enough to know how it plays out when you've been
on the show this long. And I think when they
rolled back all that footage, which again I was like, Oh.
Speaker 4 (13:02):
The questions, but that's what's going to have to happen.
She's going to have to answer more than she's comfortable with. Well,
that's because you know what we deserved another.
Speaker 3 (13:07):
Truth and I'm talking about it. I'm being more honest
in the group.
Speaker 4 (13:10):
Okay, So for me to be questioned ladies, women that
know me, it is extremely frustrating to me.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
The producers and then putting those edits in of all
the times that she has said you have to be
open and honest, she's going to have to answer all
the questions. She's going to have to say more than
she wants to. You need to say more.
Speaker 3 (13:29):
I thought, well, this is what it is.
Speaker 2 (13:31):
It's hypocrisy to sit there and say I don't have
to answer these questions, or you know, view it a
different way.
Speaker 3 (13:40):
And I think That's basically where it got to.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
And she realized the other women were not on her side.
She had to change TAC with the read And when
they sat down to have that beach conversation, I just thought.
Speaker 3 (13:51):
Wow, we she has put up the white flag.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
She's just gone, I've got nowhere else to go, and
whatever Duried.
Speaker 3 (13:57):
Says, I'm just going to go, yes, yes, yes, sir,
Yes sir, yes.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
Sir, and basically just hope that this whole thing gets
blown over and move on.
Speaker 1 (14:05):
Can I just jump back on a point that you
made about Kyle wanting people to be open and honest. Right,
what do we know about Sutton and her personal life? No?
Speaker 2 (14:13):
I feel like Sutton we still haven't seen as much,
but I just don't think there's as much there. I
think we're seeing Sutton, you know, do what she does best,
and that is stir the pot and get in there.
And when she sat on that couch and said Kyle, well,
why are we here? Like, I don't understand what the
apology is for. It's not really clear. You could see
Kyle was on the back foot.
Speaker 7 (14:34):
I got confused in all the words why you were apologizing?
So I just want to be very clear, but why
you felt like you needed to apologize.
Speaker 2 (14:43):
She was like, oh god, I thought I would just
say sorry and all these women be like, that's okay, babe,
Like you're going through a hard time to reach. Shouldn't
be coming for you. She should understand you've been the
best friend.
Speaker 3 (14:53):
But they pushed her.
Speaker 2 (14:55):
They pushed Kyle, and Kyle got put into an uncomfortable
place where she's like, Okay, well I've got no allies here.
Speaker 3 (15:01):
And I have to turn around on the direction.
Speaker 2 (15:04):
So to go back to your point about seeing them
on the couch and what they're going to.
Speaker 3 (15:08):
Say about their real life.
Speaker 2 (15:09):
I feel like Sutton has really stepped up on the
pot stirring, and I think that's what she'll be able
to hang a haut on. I mean, she would have
taken on that Lisa in a role in terms of
wanting the accountability from people.
Speaker 1 (15:22):
Lisa Brenner was accused of that for nine seasons of
her being on the show or something like that around
about that sort of episode, that that amount of seasons,
you know, stirring the pot and earning her you know,
earning her diamond by just being that not talking about
the family too much, like we never really got to
know Harry Hamlin that well, and even with the girls,
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like we really didn't get to know them that well.
We've got to know her mum. But I mean, I
think she showed enough.
Speaker 2 (15:48):
I just don't think Sutton has as much to show
us there. I mean, I find her very strange personality.
I feel like, you know, when Dereitt's opening her heart
out in the kitchen, saying, oh my god, my son's
finally asked this question about whether we're getting divorced, and
she's like, okay, so we'll wrap it up and get.
Speaker 3 (16:05):
In the cut. Like she's strange.
Speaker 2 (16:07):
She's strange, cookie, strange, pumpkin, I think, is what Darite
said before.
Speaker 3 (16:12):
I was rudely interrupted, Well, sorry, we got we do
have any.
Speaker 1 (16:17):
This was a wall of the story.
Speaker 3 (16:20):
Of all times. To interrupt Sutton. This is not it.
But you know that's the role that she plays.
Speaker 2 (16:28):
That's what makes more interesting television, and you know it
brings a difficult conversation to the table sometimes, but it
needs to be had.
Speaker 1 (16:37):
I don't know, talk to me about the weight loss
that you had between the last season and this season.
I know we're talking and we're skirting on very difficult
grounds because I don't think it's comfortable or the right
thing to talk about people's physical appearance. But I guess
what I'm trying to say is I just would like
to know a little bit more about her as a person,
Like I just feel like we've learned that from other people.
I'd like the veil to be lifted. I'd like to
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be less plots doing and more humanizing yourself to us,
because at the moment when you interrupt a conversation like
what Durite was having about something very serious, and I'm
sure that even people that don't like Drete would have
found it really uncomfortable to watch a woman talking about
her child like that, opening up and then being interrupted
to be like, oh my god, it was so cruel.
Speaker 2 (17:20):
It was very bizarre, and I don't know how you
could read a room that badly.
Speaker 3 (17:26):
I really, I really don't.
Speaker 2 (17:27):
I mean, we see in the mid season trailer, just
to jump to that for a second, her having a
goal at Drete and saying, well, mar Wilett's bigger, So
there is obviously something coming there. But I think that's
I think, you know, when you start to think if
comments like that are coming out of your mouth.
Speaker 3 (17:43):
You really do think that you are in a different league.
She's getting that.
Speaker 2 (17:48):
Three hundred and fifty grand a month from her ex husband.
She has so much money. But then I feel like,
when you're saying things like that, you actually do believe
you're on a different level, and she just must think
is not on the same level as her. She doesn't
want to play with her. She doesn't see her the
same way. She doesn't see her value. I'm so distracted
(18:09):
with you taking off this mask. You're taking off your
face mask. I can barely strength sentence together. You've got
like a little mustache section left. You look like Bono
Via Like, I'm so stup I can't what are you doing.
I have to like not look at you. I can't
think of what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (18:26):
It's really bad.
Speaker 2 (18:27):
Most of this episode I felt quite distracted, so.
Speaker 3 (18:30):
My points aren't landing.
Speaker 2 (18:32):
It's because I'm watching benst transition of a black face
mask for his skin and is coming off in pieces.
Speaker 1 (18:40):
Okay, a little bit of context for anyone that's playing
along in the background. Yeah, look, I don't know. Drep
is an interesting one for Sudden. Sudden's never been able
to see the other women on the show that she
doesn't see that she doesn't care for. So I think
that's what we're seeing in a conversation about her best
friend Garcel, she will be very much on it, do
you know what I mean? Where I don't know. I
(19:01):
just think that she's just as like waiting for you
to go or it's low hanging fruit for her.
Speaker 2 (19:07):
Well, one thing that did become a parent was when
she said in her confessional, you know, Gussell and I
are night minions. I very much was like, Oh, you've
just solidified what the online world has been talking.
Speaker 3 (19:19):
About for years is that you guys are an allegiance.
Speaker 2 (19:22):
You are together, you are a package deal, and whatever
one does, the other one backs up. Those two are
like two peas in a pod and they very much
go in the same direction.
Speaker 1 (19:33):
Do you think that these women would be friends in
everyday circumstances? Like, do you think that they've gelled together
just to have an alliance on this show?
Speaker 3 (19:39):
I mean, I feel.
Speaker 2 (19:40):
Like Beverly Hills is a bit strange in that sense,
isn't it. Everyone's always talking about Beverly Hills level of
friendship rather than real friendship. I mean, I think there's
some solid friendships that have emerged from the show.
Speaker 3 (19:51):
And I think, you know.
Speaker 2 (19:52):
Erica and Lisa Rinna definitely. I think Kyle and Teddy definitely.
I think we're seeing Deret and Bows now having a relationship.
So I mean, it's not to say that there can't
be genuine relationships formed. And I mean I would have
put Kyle and to Read in that category as being
really good friends. I never could understand when Kyle was
trying to diminish that friendship. I still feel confused about
(20:14):
what happened there. And she came out guns blazing and
she scramped to find all these excuses that she was
mad at with Dread And then we saw them sitting
on the beach and d'uried saying, well, did you consider.
Speaker 3 (20:24):
Us good friends? And she says yes, that's her answer.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
But I'm like, if we went back four episodes ago,
five episodes ago, she was saying, well, I didn't consider
us that good of friends. We only went on one trip,
blah blah blah. She was singing a completely different story.
She flipped on that beach. Did you not see that?
Speaker 1 (20:41):
M Yeah, I mean that's where this episode goes, and
that's where we end is where we get the girls
on the beach together. I don't know about you, and
I kind of feel like I know your answer anyway,
but I just felt like to read at the bar
and to read on the beach infuriated me.
Speaker 7 (20:57):
When you wrote to him and you said, you know,
I've never repeated anything that you said. I know, I
know that you were making him feel like he can
talk to you, and you're not going to repeat it
to me.
Speaker 1 (21:10):
She's trying to make Kyle completely accountable and responsible for
a whole lot of behavior. And I'm not sure whether
Deret is really wanting to own her part in this
as well, because at the end of the day, Teddy
Mellencamp ended up with a friendship with Kyle because she
rang her outside of the show and she hung out
with her outside of the show, and their lives and
their likes and dislikes were similar. Everyone knows right from
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the start when the season wasn't on deurit was never
with Kyle Richards. They were not having a friendship outside
of the show. So like dereit does need to think
about it's like this, and I'm sure you've been there
as well with friends. When friends come and tell you
about a problem that they're having. In a friend group,
they come and tell you about what they're upset about.
I always feel like you have to say to them,
(21:53):
but what is it that you can own here, because
that's all you can control. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (21:57):
Look, I think things get messy and they get complicated,
and you know, that's where Eric has been. She's been
stuck in the middle where you genuinely can see something
quite often from both sides, and.
Speaker 3 (22:08):
It's a very hard sort of spot to be as
a friend.
Speaker 2 (22:10):
But I think where it started with the beef with
those two was about the diminishing of the friendship and
Kyle not talking to her and all these other things,
and then where it sort of landed was more to
do with the text and the lying about the text
and not being honest sort of about the full nature
of the friendship with p K.
Speaker 3 (22:30):
And that's sort of it sort of overtook.
Speaker 2 (22:33):
I guess the initial issues that we saw in those
first few episodes, but I think in terms.
Speaker 3 (22:39):
Of the text, that's where the focus.
Speaker 2 (22:42):
Has been, and that's where I think Kyle realized she
had nowhere else to turn, she.
Speaker 3 (22:46):
Had nowhere to go. She just had to back down.
Speaker 2 (22:48):
I don't think she. I mean, she didn't say look sorry,
I was in the role. She's just sort of said, sorry,
I am your friend, my loyalty will be with you,
and I'll stop doing that.
Speaker 3 (22:59):
So that's kind of where it finished up.
Speaker 2 (23:02):
I think it was nice to see them have nice
conversation on the beach, having a hug at the end there.
I thought it was I thought it was quite good
and I'll be interested to see where that friendship kind
of goes to from here.
Speaker 3 (23:12):
But yeah, I don't know. I always thought they were
good friends. I really did.
Speaker 1 (23:16):
In twenty twenty five. What I find really interesting is
people talking about girl groups and boy groups and talking
about gender specific groups that people are obligatory, obliged to
be a part of. You know, you're not being a
girl's girl. Well, you're not a guy's guy. You're not this.
Well we're moving further away from that. What is wrong
(23:36):
with Kyle having a friendship? She met them both at
the same time, PK and Darte. She met them both
at the same time. She's had an equal friendship with
both of them. Why is she obliged to pick the
girl's side. Why is she obliged to be the girl's
girl isn't what I think she's obliged.
Speaker 3 (23:52):
But she was the one that used that phrase. She
was like, I'm a girl's girl. I wouldn't do that
to you.
Speaker 2 (23:57):
She was the one that put that phrasing out there,
and she was the one that was trying to sort
of hang.
Speaker 3 (24:01):
Her hat on there. But this is what everyone was
trying to get to the bottom of.
Speaker 2 (24:04):
Had she just said to be honest with you, PK
and I get along super well, you and I weren't
really talking. I appreciate his friendship more. And that's just
kind of where it was at. I think everyone would
have been happier with that, And I think that's what
Garcel and someton were trying to get to the bottom of,
just her being honest about that and actually saying it,
rather than trying to spin the narrative and sort of
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get all these other people onside to sort of put
to read back.
Speaker 3 (24:30):
In a corner and silence her about it. I think
if she'd have just said that, everyone would have been fine.
Speaker 2 (24:35):
What everyone was trying to point out was the years
of demanding honesty from other people and then her not
wanting to be honest about it.
Speaker 3 (24:42):
Herself.
Speaker 2 (24:43):
That's where the issue was, was the lack of accountability.
Speaker 1 (24:46):
Yeah, I don't know. I guess I wonder why I
kicked you know, I've listened back to some of the
chats that we've had, and I get really infuriated with
me not answering some of your questions. Sometimes I'm just
really struggling with the reasons as to why I can't
answer specific questions that you've asked me every week. And
I don't know whether it's just because I'm flying blind
with my love of Kyle Richards, but I just sometimes that's.
Speaker 3 (25:08):
What it is. No, I do think that's what it is.
It's not it's not that I feel.
Speaker 2 (25:13):
Like I'm not understanding where your defensive her is coming from.
And you know, I'm like a huge Carle Richards fans too,
and I think most of the people that watch.
Speaker 3 (25:22):
This show are. But I think in this situation, she
has been wrong.
Speaker 2 (25:27):
I thought it on the premiere, I thought it the
whole way through, and I've thought it with this tech scandal,
she's been wrong. She's been hiding whatever the hell she
was actually pissed about, and I think she has played
it wrong. And I think she you know, she had
to back down.
Speaker 3 (25:40):
She just had to.
Speaker 2 (25:41):
But I think she's done that to try and sweep
it over, not because she genuinely believes that she was
in the wrong.
Speaker 1 (25:48):
There's a few things that we haven't touched on in
this episode that we need to backtrack over. Just a
couple of things, and that was what about to read
when she did bring up Jagger, when she brought up
her son, and being shocked and being blindsided by that
question from a ten year old.
Speaker 7 (26:04):
Are you and Daddy divorced? I said, no, what you know?
What makes you ask that? And he says, well, he said,
did you post something on Instagram?
Speaker 1 (26:15):
Would you, by this stage be that ignorant to think
that your child would not be on social media? Like
you can't hide? I think some of the goals.
Speaker 2 (26:23):
This is where it's different because she homeschools. She gets
those kids homeschooled. Oh yeah, So this is where I
think there was the initial thought process that, well, I've
kind of got control of their environment and they're not
necessarily going to have access to this information, nor are
they going to be interacting on the daily other people's
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kids or whatever, and in that sort of typical setting.
So I think that's where she did think that she
had a little bit more assertion over what information they
could have or not have, or sort of trying to
buy herself some time, you know, But I think that's
a decision that both of them should have been making together.
I don't know where they he was in agreeance with that.
We sort of haven't heard any differently. She just said,
(27:05):
I've tried to protect the kids. But look, it was
this heartbreaking moment. I mean, I'm sure that was, you know,
awful to have to sit there and tell him, But
you could tell that other women were sort of like, well,
what was coming?
Speaker 7 (27:16):
Dull?
Speaker 2 (27:17):
Like you know what I mean, like your time's run out,
Like you're going to have to.
Speaker 3 (27:21):
Deal with it. It's part of it. It's happening, and
this is the landscape that we're living in.
Speaker 2 (27:26):
So you know, even though you've bought yourself a couple
of extra weeks of not having to deal with it,
surely you didn't think that that was going to go
on too much longer.
Speaker 1 (27:34):
I mean, you can build yourself a stick house, you
can build yourself a strawhouse, you can build yourself a
brick house, and you've got to make sure that you've
prepared yourself to be able to tackle this situation. I mean,
at the end of the day, all three scenarios could
see you being eaten by the big bad wolf. But
at least prepare your children with the information that they
have armed them with information I think to help them
(27:54):
prepare themselves. I don't know. I don't have children, and
I feel like someone's going to come for me in
the online comments section when I say this, But I
actually feel like there was a bit of negligence on
behalf of PK and dear by not having that conversation
with Jagger because you left him open.
Speaker 2 (28:09):
Well, I just think that they've obviously tried to do
what they think is right, and whether you know it
has been a better outcome or worse, you know, we'll
never know because we don't get to see the other
side play out. But what we did get to see
was someton cutting off that conversation going well, anyway, speaking
of best friends, we've got to get to garselves. That
to me spoke volumes because she almost had that attitude
(28:31):
of like, we told you this was.
Speaker 3 (28:32):
Going to happen. We were wrong, you were wrong.
Speaker 2 (28:35):
I can't be bothered talking about this anymore? What the
fuck did you think was going to happen? You're an
idiot and I just want to get to my friend's
house and.
Speaker 3 (28:41):
Poorous spirits like that. It had a real, like, you.
Speaker 2 (28:45):
Know, dismissive overtone to it, and I think, you know,
that was definitely very evident.
Speaker 1 (28:51):
I think you're onto something that you know. I hadn't
thought about it from that perspective, but I do think
you're onto it. I also think that the other women,
they don't seem to appreciate garselves beach House as much
as Garcel appreciates.
Speaker 3 (29:02):
Her beach house beach House.
Speaker 1 (29:04):
But I think it's kind of like the rest of
the women must look at the beach House like most
people look at like getting a caravan, you know what
I mean. No one seems to be appreciating poor Garcel
with this beach house as much as she is. Do
you think it's I.
Speaker 2 (29:17):
Feel like the beach House is almost a friend of
like the beach House. This season has overtaken Kathy Hilton,
and the beach House needs like a credit line, do
you know what I mean? Like it is every episode
we're getting Beach House updates. I mean, aside from the
fact that that light shade made of the shells.
Speaker 3 (29:36):
I was like, girl, that is strange choice. But you know,
I think, yeah, it does symbolize a lot of her,
you know, where she was, where she is.
Speaker 2 (29:46):
I think we've got to see a lot of that
from a viewer point of view, because she talks about
a lot in her confessionals.
Speaker 3 (29:51):
But you're right. I think the girls just went.
Speaker 2 (29:52):
They were like, oh, cool, congrats, Like it's fun, let's
have a shampez.
Speaker 3 (29:56):
We're freezing. We're freezing. We're cold. We're cold. We're so cold.
Speaker 2 (30:00):
I didn't really see the full pomp and ceremony to
you know, congratulate her.
Speaker 1 (30:04):
You're right, no one's come to the party and said, well, Garcelle,
we love this place. I mean, Kyle looked more excited
about the Papatobico, pimper de Paco, pep department whatever. She
looked more excited about that, And we know she was
faking that.
Speaker 5 (30:20):
You know.
Speaker 1 (30:20):
No one was like gasel yay. I mean, here's a
toaster that's from Gucci. I mean, let me tell you
when they said it was seven hundred dollars, I was like,
a seven hundred American, that's a fac.
Speaker 3 (30:30):
And T cut. Is it an ad to cut moment
for Benjamin Norris?
Speaker 1 (30:33):
When I watched on the show in Garcelle's house, I
was like, no, I want to introduce something new to
our podcast. What was your favorite moment of this episode?
Speaker 2 (30:42):
Oh, I think it would have to be the reconciliation.
Speaker 3 (30:45):
I actually do.
Speaker 5 (30:46):
You know.
Speaker 2 (30:46):
What I do appreciate about Kyle and Dread is that
they are very logical people, and I think it is
nice to see that kind of calm conversation.
Speaker 3 (30:56):
I think even when they've been fighting.
Speaker 2 (30:57):
They've still been cordial to each other at the air
and how you hugger a kiss like, I think they've
actually handled it quite well despite the level of frustration
that they've both felt. So I think it was nice
to see that resolution come to a point where it
was just them on the beach.
Speaker 3 (31:12):
Having a hug.
Speaker 2 (31:13):
I think they both sort of, you know, will deread
I think felt heard and seen at that point, and
I think that's all she really wanted, So I would
have to say that was the best moment.
Speaker 7 (31:22):
What I would like to see is that we get
to a police where we're able to have conversations and
feel comfortable telling one another how we feel.
Speaker 1 (31:34):
My favorite moment of the whole episode goes to someone
that you and I don't always appreciate. That's something turning
up at the lunch and going what are we here for?
Speaker 3 (31:44):
I gotta ask why are we here? With the apology?
I just why you're apologizing now?
Speaker 1 (31:51):
Oh my god, the lead up to I just want
to be clear on what you're apologizing for.
Speaker 2 (31:55):
And you know, another funny moment I'll give my silver
medal was when they were trying to do those lanterns
and Bos's just went off down the beach, looking like
a hollowed out tampon, just flying.
Speaker 3 (32:07):
Down the beach.
Speaker 2 (32:09):
It's like the wishes and the dreams are not coming
through today. The lantern is not going up, and can
someone please get that litter off the beach?
Speaker 4 (32:17):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (32:17):
Look a dead bird?
Speaker 2 (32:19):
Yeah, the dead bird. Oh that was a bit scary.
I was like, oh God, it's a symbol.
Speaker 1 (32:25):
It's a symbol. So I want to ask you before
we talk about the mid season promo while I put
myself together, is how many Alana mcleans do we have?
Or actually we'll change it to how many spritzers do
you give? This episode?
Speaker 2 (32:40):
I liked it. I liked it. I did like it.
I don't I don't think I liked it as much
as a week before. Maybe, but I'll not give it
at four. I think it was decent. I think it
was good to have the resolution moment, and I think
it was very good to sort of have that sort
of resolution. And then we got the mid season trially,
because it sort of felt like to your point last week,
when you were I think this is dragging on? Is
(33:02):
this all it's going to be for the whole season,
it sort of felt like that had been bookended a
little bit.
Speaker 1 (33:07):
I'm going to go with the four point five again,
And the reason for that is that I do think
that there was some really good pacing in this where
there was nothing really wasted. I really enjoyed that we
saw very little of Jennifer Tilly, thank you. And then
we also we got some really interesting conversations. You know,
something that we didn't touch on was Garcel and Kyle
talking about Garcel repeating stuff that Kyle had given her.
Speaker 3 (33:30):
That particular day.
Speaker 4 (33:31):
I was kind of like Kime and sat down and
then and all of a sudden goes you need to
show the text to everyone, And then Eric I was like, well,
hold on a minute, Garceon went to Bowls the day
after puck you cheese, And then I was like, you don't.
Speaker 3 (33:43):
Even know her.
Speaker 6 (33:44):
I don't feel like me sharing that information about the
text of Bows is a violation to Kyle, a betrayaled
to cut.
Speaker 1 (33:51):
That was some really interesting conversation amongst two women, because
I think it was something they could have easily tried
to step over, and both of these went with their
opinions pretty hard, and we're still leaving space for each
other to be heard. I thought that was really compelling.
Speaker 2 (34:10):
Yeah, I agree with you, and I think I think, well,
I think Garsell's actually one of the best at doing that.
I think what we what we see from her, she
will follow through on what she wants to say, and
I'll you know, credit where credits due.
Speaker 1 (34:23):
Mid season promo, I thought it was really weak. I
thought it was a bit undercooked. You know, I don't
know if we got to see enough, Like I think
that the back end of the season was being shown
more as fashion holidays and good hearted, good fun girl time.
Speaker 7 (34:40):
Later this season and the Real Housewives of Beverly Hill
strated you let.
Speaker 1 (34:44):
Her grab your sister?
Speaker 3 (34:45):
Where's she going, well, go to.
Speaker 5 (34:50):
I have a bomb.
Speaker 3 (34:54):
She's a woman on the d world. A man wants
a divorce. We're getting a divorce.
Speaker 7 (35:00):
There's a lot in California community property.
Speaker 3 (35:02):
You and get half.
Speaker 1 (35:03):
He's trying to divorce you before ten years.
Speaker 3 (35:05):
Oh hell no, h really, I'm sorry for hurrying you.
I would never want to hurt you on her person.
Speaker 5 (35:12):
Do you guys think that you like move in together
like before when I got married.
Speaker 6 (35:17):
She would just love to hear you say that you
love her too.
Speaker 7 (35:20):
I don't think that's any of your business.
Speaker 3 (35:25):
You're such a bitch.
Speaker 7 (35:27):
Don't call me a bitch in my home for sake.
Speaker 5 (35:30):
If somebody wants in my house and calls me a bitch,
those are fighting words.
Speaker 7 (35:34):
You need to pick on somebody else who'se wallet gits
think you're bigger than her.
Speaker 4 (35:38):
I think my wallet is you paulose as a friend
and then oftentimes work as an enemy.
Speaker 3 (35:43):
What do you think want from me? Last week? I'm
crazy yacht from hell?
Speaker 1 (35:50):
No? No, no, I'm going to give the mid season promo
one star.
Speaker 3 (35:55):
Oh I know, I feel like I'll give it a
bit more than that.
Speaker 2 (35:58):
I was very interested to see where that to eat
and Sutton Beef goes around the wallet comment because I
think that opens up a whole class debate that maybe
we haven't really seen openly where she thinks lower of her,
she thinks less of her, So we're interested to see
where that goes.
Speaker 3 (36:14):
The Kyle and Maurisio, you.
Speaker 2 (36:16):
Know, there's some kind of emotional moment there that we
saw is like, I'm really sorry, wodn't got to hurt
you on purpose? She's builing her eyes out. The vein
makes another appearance in the forehead. Keen to see where
that goes. And I think the fun sort of cast
trip in Instant Lucia because I think, you know, we
saw some shitty budget, half baked cast trip on a
beach somewhere at the beginning of the season with Kathy
(36:39):
Hilton delivering hats to people, and then we've seen this
beach episode kind of again. I'm like, I want some glamour.
I want like cast trip, like I want that to deliver.
I want opulence, I want elegance, I want you know,
I want all the things. So I'm keen to see that.
So I feel like I'll give it more than man,
I'll give it three.
Speaker 1 (36:57):
If you could write, like a question to Andy Cohen
for the reunion mid season, would you have a question?
Because you actually do send Andy Cohen questions, and I'd
be very shocked. I'd be very shocked if we don't
at some point soon see him read one of your questions,
because they're always very good.
Speaker 2 (37:13):
Oh my god, you've put me on the spot. Oh
my god, oh my god.
Speaker 3 (37:17):
Would you have on? What would it be?
Speaker 1 (37:19):
Andy Cohen? Dick pick? No, I'm kidding, he'd probably.
Speaker 2 (37:25):
Say, yeah, So, I mean, who knows. You know, I'm
going to come back to you on.
Speaker 1 (37:30):
These I think we're both going to come back.
Speaker 2 (37:31):
I think I thinks that's anyone that wants to sort
of chime in send DM.
Speaker 3 (37:37):
Maybe we can throw a few of the.
Speaker 2 (37:38):
Questions out so that everyone can hear, and then you know,
why don't we just send them in?
Speaker 1 (37:42):
We can send them in, We can chew on that.
What's on for the weekend? Are you day sparring? Day drinking?
What do you do well?
Speaker 3 (37:50):
Day drunk? Through this episode? So that's been quite nice. No,
I've got like a.
Speaker 2 (37:54):
Work function on tonight and then I'm just going to
try and chill this weekend.
Speaker 3 (37:58):
I'm trying to like not do as much saving for
trying to be a little bit more select.
Speaker 2 (38:04):
You just take it down a little not but you know,
we say that, and then next minute I'll be like,
WELLT de clare.
Speaker 1 (38:11):
It's impromptu karaoke YouTube, husband, Robbie, sit down and watch.
Speaker 3 (38:19):
With Kylie Minogue's back catalog.
Speaker 1 (38:23):
Well, I'm going to leave you with I'm going to
go and see Natalie Bassingthwait in Shirley Valentine tonight. So
I'm gonna have to go and put on some sort
of red carpet outfit and peel the rest of the
face mask off.
Speaker 2 (38:35):
Please never come on the podcast with that face mask
on again. I feel like the first twenty minutes.
Speaker 3 (38:40):
Of that I was so distracted.
Speaker 2 (38:43):
It was so funny to watch the transition, the moments
of it all falling off.
Speaker 3 (38:48):
But look, never a dull moment with you, my darling.
Speaker 1 (38:52):
Next too soon, Okay, love you bye,
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