March 6, 2025 • 20 mins
Hi Guys, welcome back to TV Reload. Thank you for clicking or downloading on today’s episode with Ursula one of this weeks eliminated Australian Survivor players.
This third week we saw another brawn player booted and we are going to get some hot takes on why Ursula was eliminated and what she thinks of this weeks game play.
- Ursula will talk about that her relationship with Nash and how that affected her game.
- Ursula will share what she thinks about Noonan and will shock the average viewers by revealing where their relationship is now.
- I find out about why those buffs were dropped early and what was happening on the brawn camp that wasn’t welcomed by Ursula.
- You will get everything from Ursula take on the eliminated players this week, what she thinks of that epic face of challenge and who deserves to come back next year.
There is so much to talk about with so many inside revelations. So sit back and relax as we unpack the wonderful world of Australian Survivor. Which is back this week on Sunday night.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
It's in the news today, but it was actually on
TV Reload the podcast last week. Thereby, Hey guys, welcome
back to TV Reload. I want to thank you for
clicking and downloading on today's episode with Ursula, one of
this week's eliminated Australian Survivor players. This is the third
week of Brains Versus Braun two and we did see
another Braun player get booted, and we are going to
get some hot takes on why Ursela was eliminated and
(00:24):
what she thinks of this week's gameplay. Ursula will talk
about her relationship with Nash and how that affected her
game overall. Ursula will share what she thinks about Noonan
and what she has to say will shock the average
viewer by revealing where their friendship is. Now let me
say it is not where you think it is. It
is a little bit complicated. I find out about why
(00:46):
those buffs were dropped early and what was actually happening
on the Braun camp that wasn't welcomed by Ursula. You
will get everything from Ursula's takes on the eliminated players
this week, concluding Max what she thinks of that epic
fase self challenge that we saw getting tied and who
deserves to come back next year that's actually going to
really surprise you. So there is actually so much to
(01:08):
talk about. As per usual, guys, I'm a massive Survivor fan,
So sit back and relaxes. We unpack the wonderful world
of Australian Survivor, which is back this Sunday night, and
let me tell you Week four. I am ready. How
are you good?
Speaker 2 (01:22):
How are you?
Speaker 1 (01:23):
I'm very well, you know, I'm I'm kind of shocked
by your game plan. I'm just going to get right
into this because when I saw you in the cast,
I was like, she is a weapon. People are going
to be so excited to have her because you just
bring the strength. And then almost straight away it's like
people didn't see that, they didn't see you for what
you were worth. Did you feel like that?
Speaker 2 (01:44):
Absolutely?
Speaker 3 (01:45):
I mean I was targeted from the start, so yes,
I did feel it.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
I did see it, but I.
Speaker 3 (01:52):
Fought for eighteen days, so I wasn't going to let
it affect me.
Speaker 1 (01:57):
Now, you fought for eighteen days, like you survived. Yes,
you were put up again and again. Does this happen
to you in your real life? Because I'm looking at
you right now and you look like so sweet and lovely.
You do not look like someone who should have a
target on their back.
Speaker 3 (02:11):
No, listen, I have copped it a little bit in
my life, but you know, I just get up every
day and I do what I need to do, and
you know, it.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
Is what it is. Who cares.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
I'm not going to let anyone kind of bring me down,
just not how I roll.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
Really, people in the forums kept saying that you played
to emotionally. Do you think that there's any truth to that, Like,
I don't see that as me reading you out some
troll comments because I don't think that that's what it is.
But I think I didn't see it like that when
I was watching it. But then on reflection, maybe there's
some truth in that for sure.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
Yeah, I agree with you.
Speaker 3 (02:45):
I think, particularly in those last two days, I was
playing emotionally.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
Yeah, maybe that's because there was there was a lot
going on that.
Speaker 3 (02:53):
Wasn't shown, particularly how Noonan was treating me. So that
was ultimately why I wanted her gone, and it showed
because the public are also seeing it as well.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
I have to get into this noon and conversation, but
I feel like just one beat ahead of where I
need to start.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
With with some of these informations, we can wait.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
Yeah, we'll do a separate podcast, the Noonan Podcast.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
Oh poor noon I feel like you.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
Go to sleep at night time and you'd be having
nightmares about her. But Nash. People kept thinking about your
relationship with Nash. If Nash wasn't there and he hadn't
sort of orchestrated a relationship with you, things might have
played out differently.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
For sure, one hundred percent.
Speaker 3 (03:33):
He really advocated for me, and watching that first episode,
I did not know. I mean, he tells me what
he said, and he told me that he advocated for me,
but really he can say whatever he wants because I
will never know until the show is and I didn't,
and I saw that he advocated for me, and I
was just shocked by that. I really did not know,
(03:55):
And I'm so blessed to have had him do that,
because had he not, would have been me.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
For sure.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
You're not regretting that relationship with Nash then, oh absolutely not.
Do you know what's so weird was when I caught
up with him, I full disclosure. I found him quite
polarizing on the show. But when I caught up with him,
I really brought into his energy and who he was
as a person. You think there was some kind of
a disconnect between Nash and who he is versus the
(04:22):
personality we saw on the show.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
For sure, one hundred percent.
Speaker 3 (04:26):
You know, even when the cameras weren't around, he made
us all laugh. He kind of Anyone would say that
all I did was crack up at him. You know,
he'd make these one off comments or one line as
while we're all laying in bed together, and I would
just crack up. So he's definitely a little Nashy. I'll
call him Nashi Pear because he's, you know, round in juice.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
He like a Nashi Pear. So you know, he's got
all the goss, he's got all the laughter. That's what
I call him, Nashi Pears, So you know that's exactly
how he is.
Speaker 1 (04:54):
Well, I feel like, then we need to step into
this doing and thing really quickly, because you know, we've
only got twenty minutes, and I feel like this Bible
X twenty minutes. But what do you think was the
biggest problem with your relationship with Noonan, Because it really
did set itself up for this ongoing rivalry.
Speaker 3 (05:10):
I mean from the start, and I would say this
all the time, particularly to Petere and Kristen. She's just
fake and that's fine. She can go into the game
being fake. If that's the game she wants to play,
then that's fine. That that good on her. But it
really shined through while she was playing the game, and
it's shined through on the TV.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
Well. I just want to say, fake is a It's
a big thing to throw out there, sure, because like
you know, for me, I see her as maybe the
younger sibling of some more dominant personalities, and over time
she may have learnt to be loud to be heard,
and I think that that still can be who you are.
Do you think that you're saying fake in those terms,
(05:52):
or do you think that she was fake in sort
of misrepresenting herself.
Speaker 3 (05:57):
She would say one thing to me and then say
another thing to someone else.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
So oh yeah, we saw that.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
Yes, So that's what I mean by fake.
Speaker 3 (06:05):
If we were all in a group, she would act
a type of way and then act a different type
of way when she was with others, And.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
I think that that was mostly only with me.
Speaker 1 (06:17):
Do you know what My theory on this though, is
for you is that I think can secure people in
social situations picked the weakest person in their mind to
sort of mock in a weird way them be elevated.
And I wondered whether or not that's something that Nonan
was doing with you, was that you were probably the
weakest link out of everybody in an obvious way, so
(06:37):
it was fine for her to elevate herself by pushing
you down.
Speaker 2 (06:40):
I don't know, Oh yeah, for sure, Okay, for sure.
I mean I didn't have this.
Speaker 3 (06:43):
I didn't have those connections straight off the bat with people.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
But as the days.
Speaker 3 (06:49):
Went on, the role reverse, so I really started gaining
some real relationships. And I mean the alliance that she
was in the kind of pushed her out a little bit,
just prior to tribe swap, and she wasn't all what
she made out to be. So I mean, I love her.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
You know, I've had friends in the real world.
Speaker 1 (07:13):
Are you talking in.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
The mill like I've had her at my house?
Speaker 1 (07:16):
Oh wow, did you poison learn to get the mushrooms
out to secretly poison her?
Speaker 3 (07:20):
No? But honestly, since my elimination, there's it's been a
bit rough because obviously she hasn't had very good feedback
from the public. But as I've said, we go into
the game knowing that we're going to be portrayed in
any way, shape or form. You went into the game
being that type of person, so you have to accept
(07:42):
the backlash.
Speaker 1 (07:43):
God's a lot to swallow for her, though, do you
know what I mean? Like, Yeah, it's a really hard
thing going on reality TV because it isn't as straightforward
as this is a true mirror about yourself, and she
is lovely. So you're saying she's fake on the show
and then you found her to be real in real life.
This is interesting.
Speaker 3 (08:01):
Oh no, No, I wouldn't say that.
Speaker 1 (08:05):
Because you don't have a camera to play back what
she says when she leaves your house, thank you exactly.
Speaker 2 (08:11):
I have tried to do the right thing.
Speaker 3 (08:12):
I've invited her to my house, I've made food for her.
But you know, I still feel the same way I
felt on the show.
Speaker 1 (08:22):
But I would say that you knowing that you had
such this is how I would play the game, and
who cares what I think? But I wonder whether or
not having such an outstanding beef something that's going on,
shouldn't you just tidy it away, like that's what I
think i'd probably do.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
I tried, and I actually tried on several.
Speaker 1 (08:37):
Occasions, and you were like, this ain't happening.
Speaker 3 (08:40):
No, she just kept on lying to me and saying, yes, yes, yes, Sola,
let's do this, yes, yes, yes, you know, but it
never happened.
Speaker 1 (08:49):
Well, we should talk about that lying, because was she
lying when she said Karen's name, Because you scoffed very
loudly in that tribal council when she threw you under
the bus, and you'd thrown her name up lying again.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
Then okay, I'll tell you the full story here.
Speaker 3 (09:03):
So Paulie actually came to me and said, hey, this
is what we should do, and told me that whole story.
And then Noonan came over separately, and then I relaid
that story that Paulie gave to me, and she made
it out like it was mine. We've all spoken about
it since the show. Paulie admitted it at my house
(09:25):
that it was his idea. But apparently I'm hearing that
he's he's.
Speaker 2 (09:30):
Saying no, no, no, I didn't. I didn't. That wasn't
my idea. So you know whatever, let him have it
and let them have it. I don't care.
Speaker 1 (09:41):
I just love this. This is it's still going on,
is what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (09:44):
This is absolutely If they want to choose to believe them,
then that's fine. I've been known to be a truth teller,
They've been known to lies.
Speaker 1 (09:55):
So let's all lead to believe we're all just maying
ourselves right now.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
That's it.
Speaker 1 (10:01):
But you predicted all of this so accurately. I mean,
I don't think anyone's ever had an exit interview that
goes for thirty seconds that sums up people so accurately,
Like did you for off over yourself when you said
all of those things? Because you ticked a lot of boxes.
You're like, Noonan's not who she says she is, Paul's
not who he says he is, and AJ's controlling the camp.
Speaker 3 (10:20):
Goodbye, Listen, I always say, and I say it all
the time, people's true colors will always shine through, regardless
how fake they're being. And for those three, I've picked it,
and you know, I think I picked it right bang.
Speaker 1 (10:38):
On the money. I wonder whether or not this series
is setting up this is all fresh cast of newbies.
I wonder whether or not this series honed in on
some rivalries happening to bring you guys back, because do
you think there's any truth in this? In my theory,
Kent and Max Kent Burt Max's hat, they're definitely coming back.
There's a rivalry, come on, and now Max is gone
(10:59):
and Kent's gone. You know that's what it is. You
have this rivalry with Noonan. So I feel like the
four of you could easily come back for another series
of Survivor called rivals. Could we be onto something?
Speaker 2 (11:09):
I mean, give me a time, a date, and I'll
be there.
Speaker 1 (11:13):
Would you go back so easily? Because it's a firstful environment.
You know, I have.
Speaker 3 (11:18):
Said, I've said this to Noon and I've messaged her
and said to her, this is not over. If they
ever want to the police rivalry or if they ever
want us back on, it's on.
Speaker 2 (11:30):
I'm ready.
Speaker 1 (11:30):
I'm here for it.
Speaker 3 (11:31):
Yeah, I'm ready. I mean, it's not over. She got
me in the end, but we'll see how long she lasts.
I mean, we'll see how long she lives.
Speaker 1 (11:43):
Do you feel like maybe that it might have been
too early to drop the buffs. I don't know if
the buffs Maybe I'm not as big a Survivor officionado
as I think I am. But it felt very soon,
like very early in the game. What's your theory as
to why that happened so early?
Speaker 2 (11:57):
Yes, so it was definitely early on in game, and I.
Speaker 3 (12:01):
Think that's because there was just not much gameplay going
on at all in the bron Tribe. It was really
hard to There was a group of six Alliance and
it was really hard for myself, PD and Kristen to
ruffle any feathers.
Speaker 2 (12:19):
They just were not budgeting and that's a boring game.
Let's face it.
Speaker 3 (12:24):
Who wants to watch six people singing Kumbai behind a
camp you know around it?
Speaker 1 (12:28):
Well, not on this show.
Speaker 3 (12:30):
No, you go on there to play a game, to
be controversial, to stab people in the back.
Speaker 2 (12:35):
Why else would you go on the game?
Speaker 1 (12:37):
Well, they're different shows. I mean like the Jungle I'm
a Celebrity is a bit like that. You know, everyone
goes into the Jungle to win that game. You need
to sit around and tell your sad story and relate
to people and you know, get along. Where with this one,
it's on the box, it's on the tin. It's like
live chat and steel and you.
Speaker 3 (12:54):
Will get absolutely, absolutely absolutely I am one hundred percent
on the same page, And I said that sometimes we'd
all be sitting around the campfire and I remember pulling
these faces and I'm thinking, what am I doing here
listening to these people rap and sing and playing clapping games.
Speaker 2 (13:12):
I'm just like, yeah, okay.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
Well, and you're like, what show did you guys sign
up for? You know, then going home early. I wonder
whether or not the dynamics of what was planned for
this show got thrown out of whack because he was,
you know, presenting himself as to be quite strong. Do
you think that there's a possibility that, you know, early on,
if someone leaves, they should try and replace them. Should
they have a couple of spare survivor castaways ready to
(13:34):
replace someone like that so early on, because it did
feel like, you know, having him have his accident and
then fall out, that it kind of upset the dynamic
a little bit. I mean, it could be just me.
Speaker 3 (13:45):
I mean, you could have some castaways on the side
ready to go for me. I mean, I was upset
that he'd gone out the way he did, but at
the end of the day, I was at the bottom,
so it was one less person I had to convince
to kind of, you know, be on my side. I
hope he gets another chance because he was gone way
(14:06):
too quickly, and I really think that he had so
much more to give because he was He actually even
had quite a similar gameplay to Nash, except I think
he was a little bit more calculated and he didn't
show that side of him that much.
Speaker 2 (14:22):
To most of the cast members.
Speaker 3 (14:24):
So I think he would have done really well had
that not have happened.
Speaker 1 (14:28):
And it really leans into the ongoing debate about challenges
on Survivor. I'm always like, make them really hard, you know,
make them really stressful.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
But unless you have to go one on one with me, then.
Speaker 1 (14:39):
Shit, I mean, I'm going to tell you. I'm going
to tell you. So I was watching you in that
challenge with the music and everything, and I it was
so intense, Like, you know which challenge I'm talking about
is that the challenge with Karen holy Manoli. I was like,
this is like you know when you're stumbling across TikTok
or Instagram and you see of like two snakes fighting
(15:02):
where it's like I don't even know who's going to
survive this. That's what it was like for me.
Speaker 3 (15:05):
Yes, and that's what it was like living it and
watching it. It was unreal and I didn't actually know
that it went for that long. And I suppose while
we're there on that platform, you don't realize that we're fighting,
that you're fighting for that long. The thing is is
that we're both as stubborn as each other. We were
not going to let either win. So but I think
(15:28):
it's going to go down in Survivor history as one
of the biggest and the best challenges.
Speaker 1 (15:34):
I'm going to co sign on that one. I'm co
signing that it was for sure. He was so epic.
I think I watched it twice and I just was
like both times I had the same reaction. It was
sort of jaw to the floor. Before we move on
and I lose time with you, we need to talk
about the two other people that I've left this week,
because everyone will want to know your perspective on that.
With Rich, I've heard on the grapevine he was a
bit disappointed with the fact that he's come out. But
(15:55):
with Rich, do you think it was a bit rich
that he said in his exit interview that he was
just about to get spicy, Because that sort of pisses
me off with reality TV people when they're leaving and
they go, oh, I'm sad that I've gone, because you know,
I was just about to get spicy, you know, like.
Speaker 2 (16:10):
You should have already been spicy.
Speaker 3 (16:11):
But I saw him already being spicy. He was a
bit of a snake, and I kind of get why
people didn't like him.
Speaker 2 (16:19):
I get it.
Speaker 3 (16:20):
But at the end of the day, that's why we
go on the game. We go on to be spicy,
we go on to be a certain type of person,
and he was that certain type of person. Maybe it
wasn't as spicy as what it could have been had
he been there a little bit longer.
Speaker 2 (16:34):
The thing is is we all want to get to Merge.
Speaker 1 (16:36):
Yeah, so you do.
Speaker 3 (16:37):
Downplay it a little bit. And even that was my
game plan too, Okay. I wanted to kind of be
quiet and lay low, and unfortunately.
Speaker 2 (16:44):
At backfired because I just wanted to get to Merge.
Come Merge.
Speaker 3 (16:48):
I would have unleashed, and I think I did start
to unleash there a little bit with mernin It's just.
Speaker 1 (16:52):
For me, Like if I was to order some hot
spicy chicken from KFC, and the piece of chicken I've
eaten was then to say I was going to be spicy,
I'd be disappointed.
Speaker 3 (17:00):
But sure, absolutely, But at the end of the day,
we also want to get to a certain point in
the game. And that's for Aj too. He hasn't been
spicy up until now. It's just like the draw really, and.
Speaker 1 (17:12):
Then we've got Max. You'd be watching Max and you'd
be looking at sort of this week he all of
a sudden became like Jim Kerry Ace Ventura, Like what
I mean, great television, my friend, and for sure so entertaining,
but way to blow up your game a little bit,
don't you think?
Speaker 2 (17:28):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (17:28):
Absolutely? And unfortunately he went on with an idol. He
should have used it.
Speaker 2 (17:32):
Yeah, he really is like that in real life too, because.
Speaker 3 (17:36):
He's just that really loud bubblea kind of you know,
ready to go attitude. And I think he did have
so much more to give. I mean, as I said,
it's just like the drawer. Unfortunately, Yeah, I hope he
does get a second chance, because he really was coming through.
Speaker 1 (17:51):
I mean, he was very entertaining. I got to say that, like,
you know, I was really shocked for them to even
for him to.
Speaker 2 (17:56):
A bit popular with the girls. They love him.
Speaker 1 (17:59):
Yes, do you know, I know this is a terrible
thing to say. I'm probably gonna have to cut this
out of the podcast, but I thought he was gay
and then when I I found out that he's no
straight and he's going out with someone who's like, he's
like an older lady or something, and I was like.
Speaker 2 (18:10):
He does do you like the older girl too? Yes?
Speaker 3 (18:14):
Actually originally from Cambrian. When he came here we ended
up going out together. I'm like, oh, I can see
why the girl's like him.
Speaker 2 (18:21):
He's charming. He's really just yeah.
Speaker 1 (18:24):
I'm charmed. I'm charmed. I mean he could be a
little bit too much for me.
Speaker 3 (18:29):
And he looks even better with his shirt off, just
like Kaylin does.
Speaker 1 (18:33):
This is a different podcast now. I am so loving
chatting to you. But the last question I ask everybody
that joins the podcast is what is something from behind
the scenes, something that we didn't get a chance to see?
And I thought about asking you this question when you
did your exit interview. Do you get did that just
fly off the cuff for you? Did you just say that?
(18:54):
Like how long are you recording that for? Because that
is the best thirty seconds of Survivor this season just
now there on to the wall.
Speaker 3 (19:00):
We don't even have time to think because we're eliminated.
Speaker 2 (19:04):
We're gone.
Speaker 3 (19:05):
We've gone from tribal counsel to a chair and then
to that exit in you and it's just like lights everywhere,
cameras everywhere, and you're just like, oh, I don't even
have time to process my emotions because I've just.
Speaker 2 (19:17):
Been voted out and here I am being blasted.
Speaker 3 (19:19):
With questions, so you don't have time to think that.
It's just becomes naturally to me to just be.
Speaker 1 (19:25):
Like that, I love it.
Speaker 3 (19:26):
And there that's the entertaining Ursula that that really didn't
come out or play out on the screens.
Speaker 2 (19:33):
Yeah, that's how I was. That's how I was.
Speaker 1 (19:36):
Yeah, well, I'm ordering a second serving of Ursula. So
thank you. I'm up for it. I'm here for it.
I'm not just saying that to you because you're on
the podcast. I genuinely have put on my bingo card
that Max Kent Ursula and Nonan are definitely kind I
hope so.
Speaker 3 (19:50):
And with all the drama that Noonan and I have, curiously,
I do love her and I would one hundred percent.
Speaker 2 (19:58):
Go back on the game to get in you The feud.
Speaker 1 (20:01):
A sequel to your storyline is like the sequel to
the Wizard of Oz Wicked A four hour two part
one bring on two movies. Amazing. Thank you so much
for being so generous with your time and chatting with
me today. I've had a lot of fun.
Speaker 2 (20:17):
Thank you. I appreciate it.
It's in the news today, but it was actually on
TV Reload the podcast last week. Thereby, Hey guys, welcome
back to TV Reload. I want to thank you for
clicking and downloading on today's episode with Ursula, one of
this week's eliminated Australian Survivor players. This is the third
week of Brains Versus Braun two and we did see
another Braun player get booted, and we are going to
get some hot takes on why Ursela was eliminated and
(00:24):
what she thinks of this week's gameplay. Ursula will talk
about her relationship with Nash and how that affected her
game overall. Ursula will share what she thinks about Noonan
and what she has to say will shock the average
viewer by revealing where their friendship is. Now let me
say it is not where you think it is. It
is a little bit complicated. I find out about why
(00:46):
those buffs were dropped early and what was actually happening
on the Braun camp that wasn't welcomed by Ursula. You
will get everything from Ursula's takes on the eliminated players
this week, concluding Max what she thinks of that epic
fase self challenge that we saw getting tied and who
deserves to come back next year that's actually going to
really surprise you. So there is actually so much to
(01:08):
talk about. As per usual, guys, I'm a massive Survivor fan,
So sit back and relaxes. We unpack the wonderful world
of Australian Survivor, which is back this Sunday night, and
let me tell you Week four. I am ready. How
are you good?
Speaker 2 (01:22):
How are you?
Speaker 1 (01:23):
I'm very well, you know, I'm I'm kind of shocked
by your game plan. I'm just going to get right
into this because when I saw you in the cast,
I was like, she is a weapon. People are going
to be so excited to have her because you just
bring the strength. And then almost straight away it's like
people didn't see that, they didn't see you for what
you were worth. Did you feel like that?
Speaker 2 (01:44):
Absolutely?
Speaker 3 (01:45):
I mean I was targeted from the start, so yes,
I did feel it.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
I did see it, but I.
Speaker 3 (01:52):
Fought for eighteen days, so I wasn't going to let
it affect me.
Speaker 1 (01:57):
Now, you fought for eighteen days, like you survived. Yes,
you were put up again and again. Does this happen
to you in your real life? Because I'm looking at
you right now and you look like so sweet and lovely.
You do not look like someone who should have a
target on their back.
Speaker 3 (02:11):
No, listen, I have copped it a little bit in
my life, but you know, I just get up every
day and I do what I need to do, and
you know, it.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
Is what it is. Who cares.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
I'm not going to let anyone kind of bring me down,
just not how I roll.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
Really, people in the forums kept saying that you played
to emotionally. Do you think that there's any truth to that, Like,
I don't see that as me reading you out some
troll comments because I don't think that that's what it is.
But I think I didn't see it like that when
I was watching it. But then on reflection, maybe there's
some truth in that for sure.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
Yeah, I agree with you.
Speaker 3 (02:45):
I think, particularly in those last two days, I was
playing emotionally.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
Yeah, maybe that's because there was there was a lot
going on that.
Speaker 3 (02:53):
Wasn't shown, particularly how Noonan was treating me. So that
was ultimately why I wanted her gone, and it showed
because the public are also seeing it as well.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
I have to get into this noon and conversation, but
I feel like just one beat ahead of where I
need to start.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
With with some of these informations, we can wait.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
Yeah, we'll do a separate podcast, the Noonan Podcast.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
Oh poor noon I feel like you.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
Go to sleep at night time and you'd be having
nightmares about her. But Nash. People kept thinking about your
relationship with Nash. If Nash wasn't there and he hadn't
sort of orchestrated a relationship with you, things might have
played out differently.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
For sure, one hundred percent.
Speaker 3 (03:33):
He really advocated for me, and watching that first episode,
I did not know. I mean, he tells me what
he said, and he told me that he advocated for me,
but really he can say whatever he wants because I
will never know until the show is and I didn't,
and I saw that he advocated for me, and I
was just shocked by that. I really did not know,
(03:55):
And I'm so blessed to have had him do that,
because had he not, would have been me.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
For sure.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
You're not regretting that relationship with Nash then, oh absolutely not.
Do you know what's so weird was when I caught
up with him, I full disclosure. I found him quite
polarizing on the show. But when I caught up with him,
I really brought into his energy and who he was
as a person. You think there was some kind of
a disconnect between Nash and who he is versus the
(04:22):
personality we saw on the show.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
For sure, one hundred percent.
Speaker 3 (04:26):
You know, even when the cameras weren't around, he made
us all laugh. He kind of Anyone would say that
all I did was crack up at him. You know,
he'd make these one off comments or one line as
while we're all laying in bed together, and I would
just crack up. So he's definitely a little Nashy. I'll
call him Nashi Pear because he's, you know, round in juice.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
He like a Nashi Pear. So you know, he's got
all the goss, he's got all the laughter. That's what
I call him, Nashi Pears, So you know that's exactly
how he is.
Speaker 1 (04:54):
Well, I feel like, then we need to step into
this doing and thing really quickly, because you know, we've
only got twenty minutes, and I feel like this Bible
X twenty minutes. But what do you think was the
biggest problem with your relationship with Noonan, Because it really
did set itself up for this ongoing rivalry.
Speaker 3 (05:10):
I mean from the start, and I would say this
all the time, particularly to Petere and Kristen. She's just
fake and that's fine. She can go into the game
being fake. If that's the game she wants to play,
then that's fine. That that good on her. But it
really shined through while she was playing the game, and
it's shined through on the TV.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
Well. I just want to say, fake is a It's
a big thing to throw out there, sure, because like
you know, for me, I see her as maybe the
younger sibling of some more dominant personalities, and over time
she may have learnt to be loud to be heard,
and I think that that still can be who you are.
Do you think that you're saying fake in those terms,
(05:52):
or do you think that she was fake in sort
of misrepresenting herself.
Speaker 3 (05:57):
She would say one thing to me and then say
another thing to someone else.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
So oh yeah, we saw that.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
Yes, So that's what I mean by fake.
Speaker 3 (06:05):
If we were all in a group, she would act
a type of way and then act a different type
of way when she was with others, And.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
I think that that was mostly only with me.
Speaker 1 (06:17):
Do you know what My theory on this though, is
for you is that I think can secure people in
social situations picked the weakest person in their mind to
sort of mock in a weird way them be elevated.
And I wondered whether or not that's something that Nonan
was doing with you, was that you were probably the
weakest link out of everybody in an obvious way, so
(06:37):
it was fine for her to elevate herself by pushing
you down.
Speaker 2 (06:40):
I don't know, Oh yeah, for sure, Okay, for sure.
I mean I didn't have this.
Speaker 3 (06:43):
I didn't have those connections straight off the bat with people.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
But as the days.
Speaker 3 (06:49):
Went on, the role reverse, so I really started gaining
some real relationships. And I mean the alliance that she
was in the kind of pushed her out a little bit,
just prior to tribe swap, and she wasn't all what
she made out to be. So I mean, I love her.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
You know, I've had friends in the real world.
Speaker 1 (07:13):
Are you talking in.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
The mill like I've had her at my house?
Speaker 1 (07:16):
Oh wow, did you poison learn to get the mushrooms
out to secretly poison her?
Speaker 3 (07:20):
No? But honestly, since my elimination, there's it's been a
bit rough because obviously she hasn't had very good feedback
from the public. But as I've said, we go into
the game knowing that we're going to be portrayed in
any way, shape or form. You went into the game
being that type of person, so you have to accept
(07:42):
the backlash.
Speaker 1 (07:43):
God's a lot to swallow for her, though, do you
know what I mean? Like, Yeah, it's a really hard
thing going on reality TV because it isn't as straightforward
as this is a true mirror about yourself, and she
is lovely. So you're saying she's fake on the show
and then you found her to be real in real life.
This is interesting.
Speaker 3 (08:01):
Oh no, No, I wouldn't say that.
Speaker 1 (08:05):
Because you don't have a camera to play back what
she says when she leaves your house, thank you exactly.
Speaker 2 (08:11):
I have tried to do the right thing.
Speaker 3 (08:12):
I've invited her to my house, I've made food for her.
But you know, I still feel the same way I
felt on the show.
Speaker 1 (08:22):
But I would say that you knowing that you had
such this is how I would play the game, and
who cares what I think? But I wonder whether or
not having such an outstanding beef something that's going on,
shouldn't you just tidy it away, like that's what I
think i'd probably do.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
I tried, and I actually tried on several.
Speaker 1 (08:37):
Occasions, and you were like, this ain't happening.
Speaker 3 (08:40):
No, she just kept on lying to me and saying, yes, yes, yes, Sola,
let's do this, yes, yes, yes, you know, but it
never happened.
Speaker 1 (08:49):
Well, we should talk about that lying, because was she
lying when she said Karen's name, Because you scoffed very
loudly in that tribal council when she threw you under
the bus, and you'd thrown her name up lying again.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
Then okay, I'll tell you the full story here.
Speaker 3 (09:03):
So Paulie actually came to me and said, hey, this
is what we should do, and told me that whole story.
And then Noonan came over separately, and then I relaid
that story that Paulie gave to me, and she made
it out like it was mine. We've all spoken about
it since the show. Paulie admitted it at my house
(09:25):
that it was his idea. But apparently I'm hearing that
he's he's.
Speaker 2 (09:30):
Saying no, no, no, I didn't. I didn't. That wasn't
my idea. So you know whatever, let him have it
and let them have it. I don't care.
Speaker 1 (09:41):
I just love this. This is it's still going on,
is what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (09:44):
This is absolutely If they want to choose to believe them,
then that's fine. I've been known to be a truth teller,
They've been known to lies.
Speaker 1 (09:55):
So let's all lead to believe we're all just maying
ourselves right now.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
That's it.
Speaker 1 (10:01):
But you predicted all of this so accurately. I mean,
I don't think anyone's ever had an exit interview that
goes for thirty seconds that sums up people so accurately,
Like did you for off over yourself when you said
all of those things? Because you ticked a lot of boxes.
You're like, Noonan's not who she says she is, Paul's
not who he says he is, and AJ's controlling the camp.
Speaker 3 (10:20):
Goodbye, Listen, I always say, and I say it all
the time, people's true colors will always shine through, regardless
how fake they're being. And for those three, I've picked it,
and you know, I think I picked it right bang.
Speaker 1 (10:38):
On the money. I wonder whether or not this series
is setting up this is all fresh cast of newbies.
I wonder whether or not this series honed in on
some rivalries happening to bring you guys back, because do
you think there's any truth in this? In my theory,
Kent and Max Kent Burt Max's hat, they're definitely coming back.
There's a rivalry, come on, and now Max is gone
(10:59):
and Kent's gone. You know that's what it is. You
have this rivalry with Noonan. So I feel like the
four of you could easily come back for another series
of Survivor called rivals. Could we be onto something?
Speaker 2 (11:09):
I mean, give me a time, a date, and I'll
be there.
Speaker 1 (11:13):
Would you go back so easily? Because it's a firstful environment.
You know, I have.
Speaker 3 (11:18):
Said, I've said this to Noon and I've messaged her
and said to her, this is not over. If they
ever want to the police rivalry or if they ever
want us back on, it's on.
Speaker 2 (11:30):
I'm ready.
Speaker 1 (11:30):
I'm here for it.
Speaker 3 (11:31):
Yeah, I'm ready. I mean, it's not over. She got
me in the end, but we'll see how long she lasts.
I mean, we'll see how long she lives.
Speaker 1 (11:43):
Do you feel like maybe that it might have been
too early to drop the buffs. I don't know if
the buffs Maybe I'm not as big a Survivor officionado
as I think I am. But it felt very soon,
like very early in the game. What's your theory as
to why that happened so early?
Speaker 2 (11:57):
Yes, so it was definitely early on in game, and I.
Speaker 3 (12:01):
Think that's because there was just not much gameplay going
on at all in the bron Tribe. It was really
hard to There was a group of six Alliance and
it was really hard for myself, PD and Kristen to
ruffle any feathers.
Speaker 2 (12:19):
They just were not budgeting and that's a boring game.
Let's face it.
Speaker 3 (12:24):
Who wants to watch six people singing Kumbai behind a
camp you know around it?
Speaker 1 (12:28):
Well, not on this show.
Speaker 3 (12:30):
No, you go on there to play a game, to
be controversial, to stab people in the back.
Speaker 2 (12:35):
Why else would you go on the game?
Speaker 1 (12:37):
Well, they're different shows. I mean like the Jungle I'm
a Celebrity is a bit like that. You know, everyone
goes into the Jungle to win that game. You need
to sit around and tell your sad story and relate
to people and you know, get along. Where with this one,
it's on the box, it's on the tin. It's like
live chat and steel and you.
Speaker 3 (12:54):
Will get absolutely, absolutely absolutely I am one hundred percent
on the same page, And I said that sometimes we'd
all be sitting around the campfire and I remember pulling
these faces and I'm thinking, what am I doing here
listening to these people rap and sing and playing clapping games.
Speaker 2 (13:12):
I'm just like, yeah, okay.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
Well, and you're like, what show did you guys sign
up for? You know, then going home early. I wonder
whether or not the dynamics of what was planned for
this show got thrown out of whack because he was,
you know, presenting himself as to be quite strong. Do
you think that there's a possibility that, you know, early on,
if someone leaves, they should try and replace them. Should
they have a couple of spare survivor castaways ready to
(13:34):
replace someone like that so early on, because it did
feel like, you know, having him have his accident and
then fall out, that it kind of upset the dynamic
a little bit. I mean, it could be just me.
Speaker 3 (13:45):
I mean, you could have some castaways on the side
ready to go for me. I mean, I was upset
that he'd gone out the way he did, but at
the end of the day, I was at the bottom,
so it was one less person I had to convince
to kind of, you know, be on my side. I
hope he gets another chance because he was gone way
(14:06):
too quickly, and I really think that he had so
much more to give because he was He actually even
had quite a similar gameplay to Nash, except I think
he was a little bit more calculated and he didn't
show that side of him that much.
Speaker 2 (14:22):
To most of the cast members.
Speaker 3 (14:24):
So I think he would have done really well had
that not have happened.
Speaker 1 (14:28):
And it really leans into the ongoing debate about challenges
on Survivor. I'm always like, make them really hard, you know,
make them really stressful.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
But unless you have to go one on one with me, then.
Speaker 1 (14:39):
Shit, I mean, I'm going to tell you. I'm going
to tell you. So I was watching you in that
challenge with the music and everything, and I it was
so intense, Like, you know which challenge I'm talking about
is that the challenge with Karen holy Manoli. I was like,
this is like you know when you're stumbling across TikTok
or Instagram and you see of like two snakes fighting
(15:02):
where it's like I don't even know who's going to
survive this. That's what it was like for me.
Speaker 3 (15:05):
Yes, and that's what it was like living it and
watching it. It was unreal and I didn't actually know
that it went for that long. And I suppose while
we're there on that platform, you don't realize that we're fighting,
that you're fighting for that long. The thing is is
that we're both as stubborn as each other. We were
not going to let either win. So but I think
(15:28):
it's going to go down in Survivor history as one
of the biggest and the best challenges.
Speaker 1 (15:34):
I'm going to co sign on that one. I'm co
signing that it was for sure. He was so epic.
I think I watched it twice and I just was
like both times I had the same reaction. It was
sort of jaw to the floor. Before we move on
and I lose time with you, we need to talk
about the two other people that I've left this week,
because everyone will want to know your perspective on that.
With Rich, I've heard on the grapevine he was a
bit disappointed with the fact that he's come out. But
(15:55):
with Rich, do you think it was a bit rich
that he said in his exit interview that he was
just about to get spicy, Because that sort of pisses
me off with reality TV people when they're leaving and
they go, oh, I'm sad that I've gone, because you know,
I was just about to get spicy, you know, like.
Speaker 2 (16:10):
You should have already been spicy.
Speaker 3 (16:11):
But I saw him already being spicy. He was a
bit of a snake, and I kind of get why
people didn't like him.
Speaker 2 (16:19):
I get it.
Speaker 3 (16:20):
But at the end of the day, that's why we
go on the game. We go on to be spicy,
we go on to be a certain type of person,
and he was that certain type of person. Maybe it
wasn't as spicy as what it could have been had
he been there a little bit longer.
Speaker 2 (16:34):
The thing is is we all want to get to Merge.
Speaker 1 (16:36):
Yeah, so you do.
Speaker 3 (16:37):
Downplay it a little bit. And even that was my
game plan too, Okay. I wanted to kind of be
quiet and lay low, and unfortunately.
Speaker 2 (16:44):
At backfired because I just wanted to get to Merge.
Come Merge.
Speaker 3 (16:48):
I would have unleashed, and I think I did start
to unleash there a little bit with mernin It's just.
Speaker 1 (16:52):
For me, Like if I was to order some hot
spicy chicken from KFC, and the piece of chicken I've
eaten was then to say I was going to be spicy,
I'd be disappointed.
Speaker 3 (17:00):
But sure, absolutely, But at the end of the day,
we also want to get to a certain point in
the game. And that's for Aj too. He hasn't been
spicy up until now. It's just like the draw really, and.
Speaker 1 (17:12):
Then we've got Max. You'd be watching Max and you'd
be looking at sort of this week he all of
a sudden became like Jim Kerry Ace Ventura, Like what
I mean, great television, my friend, and for sure so entertaining,
but way to blow up your game a little bit,
don't you think?
Speaker 2 (17:28):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (17:28):
Absolutely? And unfortunately he went on with an idol. He
should have used it.
Speaker 2 (17:32):
Yeah, he really is like that in real life too, because.
Speaker 3 (17:36):
He's just that really loud bubblea kind of you know,
ready to go attitude. And I think he did have
so much more to give. I mean, as I said,
it's just like the drawer. Unfortunately, Yeah, I hope he
does get a second chance, because he really was coming through.
Speaker 1 (17:51):
I mean, he was very entertaining. I got to say that, like,
you know, I was really shocked for them to even
for him to.
Speaker 2 (17:56):
A bit popular with the girls. They love him.
Speaker 1 (17:59):
Yes, do you know, I know this is a terrible
thing to say. I'm probably gonna have to cut this
out of the podcast, but I thought he was gay
and then when I I found out that he's no
straight and he's going out with someone who's like, he's
like an older lady or something, and I was like.
Speaker 2 (18:10):
He does do you like the older girl too? Yes?
Speaker 3 (18:14):
Actually originally from Cambrian. When he came here we ended
up going out together. I'm like, oh, I can see
why the girl's like him.
Speaker 2 (18:21):
He's charming. He's really just yeah.
Speaker 1 (18:24):
I'm charmed. I'm charmed. I mean he could be a
little bit too much for me.
Speaker 3 (18:29):
And he looks even better with his shirt off, just
like Kaylin does.
Speaker 1 (18:33):
This is a different podcast now. I am so loving
chatting to you. But the last question I ask everybody
that joins the podcast is what is something from behind
the scenes, something that we didn't get a chance to see?
And I thought about asking you this question when you
did your exit interview. Do you get did that just
fly off the cuff for you? Did you just say that?
(18:54):
Like how long are you recording that for? Because that
is the best thirty seconds of Survivor this season just
now there on to the wall.
Speaker 3 (19:00):
We don't even have time to think because we're eliminated.
Speaker 2 (19:04):
We're gone.
Speaker 3 (19:05):
We've gone from tribal counsel to a chair and then
to that exit in you and it's just like lights everywhere,
cameras everywhere, and you're just like, oh, I don't even
have time to process my emotions because I've just.
Speaker 2 (19:17):
Been voted out and here I am being blasted.
Speaker 3 (19:19):
With questions, so you don't have time to think that.
It's just becomes naturally to me to just be.
Speaker 1 (19:25):
Like that, I love it.
Speaker 3 (19:26):
And there that's the entertaining Ursula that that really didn't
come out or play out on the screens.
Speaker 2 (19:33):
Yeah, that's how I was. That's how I was.
Speaker 1 (19:36):
Yeah, well, I'm ordering a second serving of Ursula. So
thank you. I'm up for it. I'm here for it.
I'm not just saying that to you because you're on
the podcast. I genuinely have put on my bingo card
that Max Kent Ursula and Nonan are definitely kind I
hope so.
Speaker 3 (19:50):
And with all the drama that Noonan and I have, curiously,
I do love her and I would one hundred percent.
Speaker 2 (19:58):
Go back on the game to get in you The feud.
Speaker 1 (20:01):
A sequel to your storyline is like the sequel to
the Wizard of Oz Wicked A four hour two part
one bring on two movies. Amazing. Thank you so much
for being so generous with your time and chatting with
me today. I've had a lot of fun.
Speaker 2 (20:17):
Thank you. I appreciate it.
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