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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome. Its verdict was Senator Ted Cruz Ben Ferguson with
you and Senator we made some serious headlines from our
Wednesday podcast, and in that podcast you said it's time
to start looking four documents and you named places, and
now the White House has had to respond to that.
The White House Press Secretary was asked about you saying,

(00:24):
the documents are that are being hell at the University
of Delaware, and there's a hell of a lot of them.
Is anybody going to go through those? Here's how she
responded to that. Questions regarding a comment from Senator Ted Cruz,
He's calling for a search of President Biden's Senate records
at the University of Delaware for potentially classified information. There's

(00:44):
records reportedly include about eighteen hundred and fifty boxes of documents,
as well as four hundred and fifteen gigabytes for electronic files.
Does President Biden have any objection to such a search
when it comes to the documents and this ongoing legal matter,
I refer to the whale Counsel's office. Would I just
like to read I'm so sorry you guys, just the

(01:05):
request of our callings in this room for someone to
answer these questions from the pubuan. I mean, what a dodge, Senator,
what a dodge. Well done to her for doing her
job that day, right, so I'm reminded of Monty Python.
Her response to that question is run away, run away,
like there is nothing preventing her from answering that question.

(01:30):
His question was does Biden object to searching those documents?
That's not even really a legal question, it's a political question.
Is he open to allowing the FBI to search the
documents from his tenure in the Senate? Mind you, he
just made public that, oh crap, he had classified documents

(01:52):
from his tenure in the Senate that were at his
house in Wilmington. The University of Delaware has over one thousand,
eight hundred and fifty boxes of documents from his Senate tenure.
Now listen, if he had classified documents at his house,
it's reasonable to ask where they're classified documents in those files.

(02:19):
I believe the FBI will search those files. I think
it's inevitable. But I think it's striking that the Biden
White House won't say no, we don't object to that.
They're not willing to go on record. That was an
obvious dodge and I actually want to make clear I
think it's not just the files at the University of Delaware.

(02:43):
I think it is critical that the FBI search Hunter
Biden's home and his office locations, given the enormous evidence
of corruption involving Hunter Biden and Joe Biden, involving Hunter
Biden's selling access to Joe Biden when he was vice president,

(03:06):
involving Hunter Biden being paid millions of dollars from Barisma,
the Ukrainian natural gas company, and millions of dollars from
companies funded by the Chinese communist government at the same
time that Hunter Biden, we know, was in his father's corvette.

(03:30):
He has pictures out on the Internet of him driving
his father's corvette which was parked we now know, and
it is admitted next to classified documents. The FBI needs
to search and investigate to determine whether there are any

(03:51):
classified documents at Hunter Biden's home or business. And by
the way, the next question someone might ask is, okay, well,
what is the probable cause to search Hunter Biden's home
or business? And there may or may not be probable
cause if you had to go to a court and

(04:13):
get a warrant for that search. You'd have to lay
out the case. But the question that should be asked
tomorrow to Karen Jean Pierre is does Hunter Biden object
to an FBI search of his home and business, Because

(04:35):
if there's no objection, the FBI can do it now.
If he objects, that tells you something. And notice she
wouldn't even answer if Joe Biden, the sitting president, objects
to the search of his own Senate documents, that question
needs to be asked. That search needs to happen. And

(04:55):
I believe if at the end of the day we
discover that these classes deified documents relate to the corruption
of the Biden family, then we are facing real and
material criminal charges. We don't know that there's no evidence
of that. But at the same time, the Biden, FBI

(05:17):
and DOJ, which leaks on every damn thing you can
imagine related to Donald Trump, has been locked like a
steel drum on this. So we know nothing about what's
in these documents. We need to know. We need to
search the University of Delaware documents, and we need to
search Hunter Biden's home and office, and we need to

(05:38):
do it now. The FBI doesn't need to sit on
its rear end for days and weeks and months and
let someone put those documents in a shredder. They need
to show up tomorrow and search Hunter Biden's home and office.

(05:58):
If we care about protecting classified documents and understanding what
Joe Biden has done, we need to do that immediately. Yeah,
there's no doubt about that. And I want to ask
you also about the other family members. The one thing
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(07:25):
dot com slash Verdict Center. There's one thing that the
Biden family really loves to do, and that is to
commingle office space. We have the emails from Hunter Biden's
laptop that talk about having keys made for shady Chinese communists,
individuals who were with with with Cefe. We know that

(07:47):
they were wanting keys for his not only for Joe Biden,
but for Hunter Biden, for Joe Biden, and for Jimmy
James Biden. When you look at at the University of
Delaware in these documents, knowing that right after he left
the White House they were co mingling office space, aren't
there maybe even other locations that the FBI should be

(08:08):
asking questions about now and who took what documents where,
Because we also know that documents had to be stored
somewhere before they went to the Biden Center. There's a
significant chunk of time where those documents had to be
somewhere else Where were they kept before? Then the classified
documents and then those documents as garage where all had
they been? Had they been a Jimmy's office or to

(08:30):
Hunter's office, or to Jill's office for that matter. So look,
I think those are all very reasonable questions. If you
had a DOJ and an FBI that were investigating this
seriously and with a nonpartisan focus, they would ask those questions.
They would search those locations, you know. I'll say. Also,

(08:51):
so we had a big headline that broke today, which
is classified documents were discovered at Mike Pence's home address,
and the press went into a bit of a tizzy
on this. Now, I will say, I think there's a
pretty significant difference between the Pence situation in the Biden situation.
Pence and look, this was responsible, This was prudent when

(09:15):
on a search of whatever documents where it is home
residence when this happened, to say okay, let's make sure
I don't have anything, and they discovered, Oh we do. Now.
What Pence has done is he's put out a public explanation,
which is he said that when he had staff packing
up his office files in the Office of the Vice President,

(09:36):
that inadvertently there were some classified documents that were put
in the boxes along with unclassified documents. Now that's sloppy,
it's not a wonderful explanation, but it's understandable. I don't
think anyone thinks Mike Pence was there packing those boxes.
So when he found it, he immediately admitted to it.

(10:00):
He was forthcoming, He didn't hide it. He didn't do
what Joe Biden did. This was discovered on November second,
a week before election day, and he hit it. He
didn't want the American people to know. Pence the incident.
He knew about it, publicly admitted it, and he also
gave an explanation. By the way, Joe Biden has given
zero explanation for how he had these documents, no explanation

(10:22):
for how he had the vice presidential documents, and even
more stunning, no explanation for how he had the Senate documents.
We've talked on this podcast at length about how in
the Senate you review classified documents in a skiff, a
secure location, so it takes extraordinary efforts. I have never
once read a classified document in ten years in the

(10:44):
Senate outside of the skiff, the secure location, so there
is zero chance. I'm sitting in my DC apartment, I
know to a metaphysical certainty there are zero classified documents
in my DC apartment. Why because the only place I
read a classified document has been in the skiff. Joe
Biden has given zero explanation. He's not willing to give

(11:08):
an explanation. I will admit, though, Ben, when the story
about Pence broke, I was really really tempted to tweet
holy cow, Hunter Biden went to Mike Pence's house too,
And I literally pulled out my phone and started to
type it. And then a guy on my team said, yeah,

(11:30):
if you said that, people will read that as a
shot at Mike Pence. And I'm like, no, I'm not
taking a shot at Mike Pence. Look, Mike's a friend
of mine, he's a good man. I don't want to
take a shot at Mike. I'm taking a shot at
Hunter and Biden and the Biden family corruption. But I
gotta say I still thought it was funny as hell.
So this is a tweet. I did not send this,

(11:51):
but it made me laugh. I was walking along right
alongside the underground railroad if from the Er office buildings
to the Capitol, and I was almost sending the tweet,
and then I'm like, no, I don't want to pop
Mike Pence. He's a good guy. So if I send it,
people will laugh, but they'll also twist it into popping Mike.

(12:13):
So I didn't send the tweet. That's you have a
wise staff around you. They know how people will screw
that one up for you. Let's talk real quick about
Joe Biden just sticking his foot in his mouth. All right,
he does this a lot. We have that famous video
of him now just talking about how, you know, I
was in charge of the Ukraine gig, basically in charge

(12:34):
of everything going from the US to Ukraine. He said
I got all the good jobs, the good assignments when
he was vice president, and then he bragged about having
that prosecutor fire that was actually investigating his son's company
with corruption in Ukraine. He loves to brag about these
types of things. Well, you go back now and there's
been some unearthing of how he has dealt with classified

(12:58):
information when he was in this Senate. We also know
that some of the documents found at his home and
Delaware were from his time in the Senate, which at
the bare minimum means they're fourteen plus years old. That
the youngest some of these could easily be thirty forty
years old. He's been a public official now for literally
fifty years, but he apparently openly bragged about classified information,

(13:22):
leaking it all the way back in nineteen eighty six
in an interview that he did, well, that's exactly right.
He did an interview in nineteen eighty six where he said,
quote he twice threatened to go public with covert action
plans by the Reagan administration that he believed were quote hairbrained,

(13:47):
and to stop them, and to put this in context,
in nineteen eighty six, Reagan is president. He's in his
second term as president. Joe Biden as a senator, is
a left wing senator who hated ro Old Reagan's foreign policy.
He hated his foreign policy of standing up to the
Soviet Union. He hated his foreign policy of winning the
Cold War. He hated his foreign policy of standing up

(14:10):
to the Sandinisis, and the communists that were pushing revolutions
in Latin America. And so Biden bragged that when he
heard about covert actions what the CIA was doing. And
by the way, covert actions, covert is a fancy word
for secret, what our US government is doing. All covert actions,

(14:30):
one hundred percent of them are classified. They're usually classified
at the highest level SCI code word classified. And Biden said, well, hell,
I don't care about the classified documents. I didn't like
what Reagan was doing, so I was just going to
leak him. And by the way, Michael Reagan was a friend.
He's Ronald Reagan's son. Michael Reagan tweeted out yesterday he said, quote,

(14:54):
after my father was out of office, he shared to
me that Senator Joe Biden confronted him and told him
that if he disagreed with my father on a covert
action he had planned, he would leak it to the
media to stop it. Now, let me be clear, leaking
a classified document to the media is a felony. Literally,

(15:18):
this is Joe Biden bragging I will commit a felony
because I don't like your foreign policy. So, going back
forty years, Joe Biden has had a cavalier attitude towards
classified documents. Now, there's a rich irony that he preened
self righteously when the Biden FBI rated Mara Lago where

(15:46):
he said, well, for him to have classified documents in
a locked closet, that was irresponsible. And of course, Kareen
John Piher, who you played at the outset of this podcast,
when she was asked a few days ago, was it
irresponsible for Joe Budden to do the exact same thing,

(16:08):
she promptly said, to quote Monty Python run Away. She
refused to answer, Yeah, it is. Truly. It's stunning to
see how this White House has done everything they can
just with the narrative to screw this up. And you're
seeing this now and we're watching this really play out

(16:30):
where the White House doesn't know which way is up.
The President has basically lost total control of this narrative.
And now you have I think two big storylines. You
have the storyline, which is the FBI is now kind
of having to do their job, and you also have
the other storyline, which is undermining this White House as well,

(16:52):
that the top level FBI individuals. We just saw this
top FBI official charge with violating Russian sanctions. He was
apparently making the decisions in the Carter Page investigation. They've
got now problems all over the place. Even NBC News
talked about this on the news. I mean, it was
a shocking moment for me. They're having to cover documents

(17:14):
that are classified at multiple residents and maybe at other
offices and maybe with other searches, and they're having to
admit that a former top FBI official was charged with
violating Russian sanctions who was also making decisions on spying
on Donald Trump. This may be the worst week in
history for the FBI and the Democratic Party of actually

(17:36):
all of the chickens coming home to roost at the
same exact time. Well, let me just say wait till
next week. I like it. I like to tease there, Senator.
I like to tease there, Senator. I wanted you to
give it an important update that's going to have a
huge impact in our men and women in uniform when
it comes to vaccine mandate. You're trying to get them reinstated.

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I want to ask you about another issue, and this
one is something that's really important. You've been fighting for
quite some time about getting reinstated men and women in

(19:44):
our military who were kicked out for not getting the vaccine.
We've also now seen that they were going to recommend
or have recommended, Oh, you should just get the COVID
vaccine annually. If you're older, you should get two shots
a year. If your children you should get two shots. Hears.
We want to put the on the regular schedule for everybody,
so when you're getting your flute shot, and how we
might even do quote an experiment and put them together

(20:06):
in one shot. And yet men and women stood up,
lost their jobs. Some of them were even having to
pay back their bonuses that they received while serving our country.
And you and other senators and members of the House
now are fighting really hard to try to make sure
that these men and women are reinstated in the military.

(20:27):
My question is, and so many other Americans senders who
are in their right mind would hold this up because
we also didn't hit our recruiting goals in our military
this last year. We desperately need these people back in uniform. Well, listen,
that's exactly right that there were a lot of policies
over the last two years on COVID that were utterly indefensible.

(20:51):
You saw the Biden administration shutting down small businesses, shutting
down schools, sending millions of kids home and denying them
in a education. You saw the Biden administration trying to
fire federal employees, trying to force private employers to fire
their employees if they didn't get a COVID vaccine. Of

(21:14):
all of the policies, and every one of those was outrageous.
It was an abuse of power, it was wrong. But
of all of the policies, I'm not sure any was
more outrageous then the Biden administration firing thousands upon thousands
of active duty military men and women because they made

(21:35):
the personal decision not to get the COVID vaccine. Some
of them made it for religious reasons, they had religious objections.
Others made it for personal health reasons. But thousands upon
thousands of active duty military members were fired by Joe
Biden eagerly, aggressively, proudly. By the way, the guy in

(21:57):
charge of the COVID policy in the White House is
the new Biden Chief of Staff, Jeff Zience, so they
embraced these policies from the day they were announced. I
have opposed these policies. I think they are wrong. I
think they're abusive, I think they're illegal, I think they're immoral,
and I've fought against them. I led the fight in

(22:19):
the Senate against the Biden COVID vaccine mandates. On the
military front, we won a big, a huge victory last
month when Congress passed the National Defense Authorization Act and
it by statute explicitly rescinded it repealed the Biden vaccine

(22:44):
mandate in the military. That is a big damn deal.
I have fought hard, others have fought hard, have spilled
blood and sweat and tears to stop this immoral mandate.
And so winning that victory we need to sell. We
need to pause and say we got a big win here.
We forced the Democrats to accept that they didn't want it.

(23:07):
We forced Joe Biden to sign it he didn't want to,
and that was a big win. But unfortunately, the price
the Democrats extracted is the repeal was prospective only, which
means going forward tomorrow, no active duty military members will
be fired for not getting the COVID of vaccine. But

(23:29):
it did absolutely nothing for the thousands, and I'd say thousands.
We don't know the exact number. We know it is
at a minimum thousands. It may be tens of thousands.
The Biden administration refuses to answer this question. At a minimum,
it is thousands of active duty military members who were fired,
who were terminated, who were removed from the military, and

(23:54):
the legislation we passed last month provides no relief for them.
I file this week legislation I'm calling it the Americans
Act that gives them relief. So if you're an active
duty service men or woman and you were terminated from
the military, you would have a right to return to

(24:15):
the military, return at your original rank, return at the
same level of benefits, get your benefits back, go back
to serving our nation. If the mandate is wrong, and
it is wrong, then it shouldn't just be wrong today.
It should have been wrong yesterday and a year ago

(24:35):
when these people were being fired. And beyond that, there
are also thousands of servicemen and women who had their
ranks reduced. My legislation provides that if you had your
rank reduced, you get your rank restored and you get
back pay. And beyond that, there are some servicemen and

(24:57):
women who were fired who may may I could determination say, Look,
I've got a job in the private sector. I've moved on.
I don't want to go back to the military. Okay,
if you don't want to go back, we're not going
to make you. But those individuals, my legislation would provide
that they get an honorable discharge, not just a general discharge,
which ensures that they get the benefits they have earned

(25:20):
by defending this nation. And I'll tell you this, to
every soldier, every sailor, every airman, every marine, every coast guardsman,
I'm going to keep fighting for you until you are
taken care of, until justice is served. Because it is

(25:43):
wrong that Democrats did this. And by the way, one
of the big reasons been that Biden and the Democrats
did this. I believe they are engaging in a purge,
a purge of the military. They want to get rid
of conservatives, they want to get rid of independent thinking.
I was going to ask you that because there's so

(26:04):
many people center that think this was exactly what you
just describe. The easiest way to get rid of people
that are probably more conservative yep, or more principled or
are not willing to look the other way when they
love America. Get rid of them, right, get rid of them.
And this was an easy way to ask a question
without asking a question to part. And it's not just

(26:27):
the military, it's also DOJ, it's also the FBI, it's
also the border Patrol. They are trying to persecute and
drive out a public service anyone who is conservative. They
want only left wing sheep who will obey their orders

(26:48):
to serve in the government. And it is one of
the most it's part of the reason they have dug
in so hard on these mandates, as they view it
as an enormous political opportunity. I want to ask you,
who is it that is going to basically hold this up? Now.
I understand the politics of it, you know, a year ago,
two years ago, right, but a lot has changed center

(27:09):
since then. You come into a new Congress, there are
new members of the House, obviously, new members of the Senate,
and there would have been no way this could have happened.
I think two years ago, year ago, etc. Is there.
But now and we've seen this in polling among the
American people on issues like COVID and vaccine mandates. The
majority of Americans are against them. So who is it

(27:32):
that's going to really hold this up? Where does the
pressure need to go now? So, Number one, every Democrat,
every Democrat is happy to vote for the vaccine mandates,
is happy to leave these thousands of American heroes of
servicemen and women. I've met with Navy seals who spent years,
decades fighting to defend this country who were fired because

(27:54):
they made a personal decision not to get a vaccine.
That is grotesque. Every single Senate Democrat is happy to
stand with firing those servicemen and women, and sadly, there
are a handful of Republicans who are willing to do
so as well. I'm going to tell you I'm going

(28:15):
to keep leading this fight, particularly at a time, as
you noted, when we are having massive shortfalls in military recruiting.
We need to bring back American heroes. We got Navy
seals ready to defend this nation, and these idiot ideologues
won't let them back into the military. That makes no sense. Now,

(28:39):
what are the chances of this happening? If I had
to pass my bill in the Senate and to get
sixty votes to overcome a filibuster. The chances of it
passing would be zero. Every Democrat opposes it, and a
handful of Republicans suppose, so we would not get to
submit Romney opposed. Is it I disagree with me? I

(29:02):
don't know. I have had this argument with Mitt. I
cannot explain it. You ask Mitt why he opposes it.
I don't know, but he opposes it. He's like he's
willing to leave these service men and women being fired.
I'm frustrated by that. And that's that's one of the
shocking ones for so many people that are listening. It's like,

(29:22):
where's the logic now? Right in retrospect, we know a
hell of a lot more now about the COVID vaccines.
We have a lot more of of asterisks next to it, right,
that it's not just as simple as they try to
make it out to be. And to dig in on
it now and not admit, hey, we got this wrong.

(29:43):
And by the way, the majority of Americans believe we
got vaccine mandates wrong. So you're going against what I
would assume the people you represent would want. Yeah, and
let me be clear, the mandates were unequivally wrong. The
vaccines were not necessarily and I think get varied person
by person. If you were eighty eight years old and

(30:04):
you had serious comorbidities, I think it made sense for
a lot of people to make the choice to get
a vaccine, Like given the risks of COVID, there's a
cost benefit analysis as a new vaccine. You didn't know
the downsides, but the risk of COVID were serious for
vulnerable populations. I think people rationally made the choice I

(30:26):
want to get the vaccine. If you're a healthy, twenty
four year old man who's a Navy seal, it may
well have made sense for you to say, I don't
need the vaccine. COVID's not going to be that serious
for me, and I'm concerned about the downsides. By the way,
if you're a twelve year old child, I think the

(30:47):
argument is really powerful that it didn't make sense for
you get the vaccine because COVID with young children has
been so relatively mild. Higher death right whoever year for
children then of actual COVID, So why would you Why
would you take that big risk on someone that's so
long and based on life expectancy, has so many years

(31:10):
to live. I mean, even in my own house. Everybody
in my house had a different COVID vaccine experienced. My
dad went in the hospital and he almost died. He
came out and he actually, this is pre vaccine, and
he came out. He was on oxygen for three and
a half almost four months. He was in great health.

(31:30):
My mom, who is a cancer survivor, has a low
immune system, has gone through hell with cancer treatment. She
had basically a cough the same week COVID that my
dad had. He went into the hospital for weeks on
end and still, I mean, he said it when he
was here the day because I think it took years
off my life going through that. I went to my

(31:50):
doctors and said, hey, I have my dad's DNA, I
have asthma. I'm not in the best shape I've ever
been in my life right now. I'm honest about that.
What should I do it? But I will say, I
will say, you're a monstrously good tennis player. I played
tennis with you. It's a little frightening because, all right,
I'm gonna slightly brag here. I think I'm in better

(32:13):
shape than you are. You are, I'll admit that I'm
coming for you, though, where we got a little competition going.
But tennis, you can so utterly kick my ass by
the way. I'll take you in hoops. I played two
hours hoops today. I will take you. I'll post you up,
I'll shoot on your ass. I'll bet money in a
hoops game, but I will not. I will not bet

(32:35):
money in a tennis game because you will crush me.
And we played together, so you know that too. You
know there's a reason why I haven't been saying, hey,
when am I getting the invite to the basketball game?
Just right? That's the strategic thing I got you. But
but you look at the decisions that were made by families.
My decision was different than my wife's based on my

(32:57):
medical history, based on my DNA, based on sure my chart,
and then with my kids it was a hell no
because they were so young. And again the risk reward
factor here the Democratic Party and people that you, including
Mitt Romney, who think that they should be able to
make medical decisions for you that affect by how you

(33:18):
pay for your kids, the medical care you get later.
And that's one part here that you mentioned earlier that
I think we should just remind people if you are discharged,
not honorably. It changes your lifetime benefits that can affect
the medical treatment that you and your children receive. Well.
And look, I want to be clear when it comes

(33:40):
to vaccines. I'm not anti vaccine. I'm not pro vaccine.
I'm pro individual choice. Bingo, it's your damn decision. You're
an adult. Go research it, go figure it out. If
you want to get the vaccine, God bless you make
that decision. If you don't, God bless you make that decision.
I believe if it's your right to make that decision.

(34:02):
And I think Joe Biden and the Democrats were immoral
firing thousands upon thousands of active duty military heroes, American
heroes because they refuse to comply with their arbitrary dictate. Yeah,
and they heard a lot of kids and a lot
of parents and a lot of people had to move
and uproot and start all over when they dedicate their

(34:25):
lives to protecting and serving this country. Last thing I
want to bring up real quick because I have to
play this for you, Senator Kamala Harris, And this week
was a big week. You have the Right to Life
march that happens all over the country. You have Democrats
that were furious this year because of the overturning of
Roe v. Wade. This going back to a state's rights issue,

(34:47):
Kamala Harris. She decided to talk about the Declaration of
Independence and a pro abortion speech saying that all Americans
are endowed with the right to liberty and and the
pursuit of happiness. But she left out a key word,
and I'm sure most people are gonna know which word
it is. Take a listen. We collectively believe and no,

(35:12):
America is a promise. America is a promise. It is
a promise of freedom and liberty, not for some, but
for all, a promise we made in the Declaration of

(35:35):
Independence that we are each endowed with the right to
liberty and the pursuit of happiness. Senator, I'm just gonna
stop there. She missed. She missed a word in a
pro abortion speech. There's a key word there that she missed,

(35:57):
And I'm pretty sure you heard it the way I did.
The words she left out with life. Yes, Look, as
you know, there are very few things that I hold
more dear to my heart than the Constitution and the
Declaration of Independence, than the protections of our fundamental liberties

(36:19):
and to listen to her. That embodies both the ignorance
of the modern Democrat Party but also the utter contempt
for our rights. So the words that Thomas Jefferson at
age thirty three penned in the declaration, and I'm not
reading these, We hold these truths to be self evident,

(36:41):
that all men are created equal. Somehow she forgot all
men are created equal. She said, truths that are self evident.
But all men are created equal. Nowhere to be found
that they are endowed by their creator. Where were the
words by their in what she said? Apparently God is

(37:03):
erased in this, that they are endowed by their creator
with unalienable rights, that among these are the rights to life, liberty,
and the pursuit of happiness. Those may have been the
most glorious words ever penned by man outside of the Bible.

(37:30):
It was a bold vision for the future of the
natural rights of mankind, going back to John Locke. So
if you look at John Locke, the British philosopher, he
had posited for years and beautifully, and the Founders were
all very familiar with John Locke, that the natural rights
of all people were life, liberty, and property. Those those

(37:54):
were usually the triumphant life, liberty, and property. When it
came to the Declaration, they contemplated including life, liberty, and property.
The reason they excluded the word property is because Jefferson
did not want to embrace in the declaration a word

(38:14):
that could be used to justify slavery. And there's an
irony to this, And listen, there are ironies in our
nation's history. Good and extraordinary men who fought for justice
and freedom and equality were also inexplicably slaveholders. Jefferson was
a slaveholder. The man who penned the words, we hold

(38:37):
these rights to be self evident, that all men are
created equal was a slaveholder. I don't know how you
write those words while owning slaves. That is a discontinuity
that is difficult to understand. But the reason that the
word property was omitted from that and replaced with pursuit

(38:59):
of happiness was because Jefferson and the other people who
wrote the declaration did not want language in there that
was seen as a defense of slavery. For Kamala Harris
number one, Okay, listen, I served with Kamala. We were
in the Senate together. She has no idea what's in

(39:20):
the declaration of independence. I feel certain if somebody pointed
a TV camera at you and said, I will give
you one million dollars today if you can quote what
the declaration says about the truth that are self evident,
I think the chances are zero point zero percent. She

(39:42):
could answer that she doesn't know what's interesting about those remarks.
She wasn't ad libbing. That's not her riffing on her own.
Somebody wrote that, Yeah, it was clear that she was
reading a tele prompt when you were. It's the video
of it. It's obvious that these were pre determined words

(40:06):
that she was reading life liberty in the pursuit of happiness.
And the Democrat Party is never mind life. We don't
like the right to life. We're not going to acknowledge it.
And we think that a bunch of left wing pro
abortion activists, when you say the right to liberty in
pursuit of happiness, will go yeah, never mind that life thing. Yeah,

(40:29):
it is stunning, and it's listen, people of good conscience
and good morals can disagree on the question of abortion.
I'm pro life, your pro life. I believe we should
protect the right to life. But I understand those people
who disagree It is not an easy question. It is
a difficult question of morality of law. It places intention

(40:59):
the woman right to liberty with the child's right to life,
and those two rights, both of which are rights endowed
by our creator. Those rights are intention Now, I believe
that the listing of life liberty in the pursuit of happiness,
I think that's a hierarchy. I think the first right

(41:19):
is life, and I think you have a right to liberty,
but you don't have a right to liberty that violates
the right to life of another human being. And so
you can have a reasonable principled argument. And then this
is something people struggle about. It. It's a personal issue.
It's an emotional issue. I understand that. But Kamala Harris

(41:42):
doesn't acknowledge any of that. She is just being a
rabid partisan. And by the way, look, Kamala is part
of the same Democrat party that just voted a couple
of weeks ago against the Born Alive Infant Protection Act,
against ledgislation that would say that if in the course
of an abortion, a child is born, the child is alive,

(42:07):
the child is breathing, the child is outside the womb,
so you have an infant. You can't kill the infant.
You can't allow the infant to die. You must save
the infant if the child is born. Virtually every single
Democrat in the House of Representatives voted against that legislation

(42:29):
in a normal circles. That yeah, that's a new type
of evil. It's a new level of evil. And I
describe that as evil. And that's the reason why when
people say, I don't know how you're so involved politically,
I say, you think of it as politics. I think
of it as an issue of right and wrong and
fighting for things like this. These are the issues that

(42:49):
I that I stay engaged on. That to me is
my mission field because when you when you can see
such a quick disregard in a nation for the rights
of an infant child that had been born, and they say,
no, no no, that was supposed to be an abortion, So
let's just keep doing it. I'm not going to just
turn the other way and act like that's not happening

(43:09):
and that's not wrong. And I think that's why so
many people stand up for the rights of the unborn
this country, and that's the reason why I think we
had this incredible victory this year with Rovie Wade being
overturned going back to the States. Well, and you should
ask why is it that the White House political staffers,
when they wrote the speech that Kamala was reading on

(43:30):
the teleprompter, Thomas Jefferson laid out three rights endowed by
our creator, life, liberty, in the pursuit of happiness. Why
did they erase the right to life? Yeah, it tells
you accidental. It tells you a lot about this White
House Center. As always, it's a pleasure. We'll be back
with you on Friday. Who knows how many classified documents

(43:53):
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