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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Center is always nice to be sitting with you in studio,
and for people that are listening audio only, you can
watch this episode on YouTube as well. Let's start with
this idea, and I think it's time to have a
real discussion about it, the possibility that Joe Biden may
actually not be the nominee for the Democratic Party. They
seem to be turning on him. Your initial reaction to this.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
Well, I think the odds that Joe Biden is not
the Democrats nominee in twenty twenty four have risen significantly,
maybe by as much as twenty or thirty percent, And
I think they're all sorts of inditia that suggests that
Democrats are getting nervous. They're getting nervous about his age.
They're looking at polling numbers that show two thirds of
Americans think he's too old to be president. They're getting
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nervous about all of the evidence of Biden corruption. You've
got Hunter being indicted, You've got all the connections to Joe.
And then what we've seen in recent weeks is the
media's turning on them. And remember the role of the media. Sadly,
they're no longer journalists, they no longer report news. They
are the left wing of the Democrat Party. And when
the media turns on the presumed Democrat nominee, I think
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that is the cutting edge of the Democrat intelligentsia saying
we may have to cut bait and find someone new. So,
for example, David Ignatius, Yeah, columnists in the Washington Post.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
Say that again in the Washington Post, saying this, this
is something that doesn't happen.
Speaker 3 (01:27):
Well, he wrote, tell us what he wrote.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
Then he wrote something interesting and basically was saying it's
time to get rid of Joe Biden or maybe Kamala Harris,
or maybe both. And one of the things he talked
about in here he said he was concerned about Harris
that even with Biden, because he says that, well, one
way that Biden could help himself is by encouraging quote
a more open vice presidential selection process that can produce
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a stronger running mate. So he's even saying, hey, Joe Biden,
you're in deep trouble. Democrats need to pay attention to this.
But if you're not going to stop, if you're not
gonna say I'm not going to run, you might want
to look at replace your vice presidential candidate. Because maybe
that will at least make you'll go, all right, well,
we like you a little bit more because we know
we're going to replace you with someone that we like.
Because her poll numbers are worse than Joe Biden's, well,
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well they are.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
And the fact that the Washington Post is throwing that
marker out there, and let's come back to that, because
I want to talk about the likelihood of Joe not
being the nominee. I want to talk about the likelihood
of Kamala not being the vice presidentdential nominee. But first,
the fact that the Washington Post puts that out there
in a very prominent column. It's like the starter's pistol
and the media, they all listen to the same things.
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And so when you have the Washington Post start saying that,
when you have the New York Times starts saying that,
you start having others. So, for example, here's CNN this
past week. Give a listen he has done I don't
know if it's similar things, but he's sort of told
some stories that don't line up quite like this before.
Speaker 4 (02:56):
Yeah, this president has a pattern at this point of
either in venting or embellishing stories about his own past,
his biography. He did it three times in one speech
last month alone. He claimed he had witnessed bridge collapse
in Pittsburgh when he actually showed up about six hours later.
He claimed that his grandfather had died just days before
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he was born himself at the same hospital. In fact,
his grandpa died more than a year before in a
different state, not the same hospital. And he also repeated
a favorite fallse story that I and others had debunked
over and over again about a supposed conversation with an
Amtrak train conductor he was friends with who was actually
deceased at the time the conversation would have had to
take place. And that's not all. There are some more
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serious ones, in my view. Previously in his presidency, he
claimed at one point he'd been arrested during a civil
rights protest, when in other versions of the story he
just said an officer had taken him home from a protest.
He said he had visited the Pittsburgh synagogue where warshippers
were killed in a twenty eighteen match shooting. In fact,
he had actually spoken to the rabbi, but but never went.
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And he's made a whole bunch of others too, he
said At one point Republicans like to bring this up.
He said that he used to drive a tractor trailer
and he used to drive an eighteen wheeler. Never happened.
The White House later clarified he used to drive a
school bus at one point for as a job briefly
school bus, of course, not an eighteen wheeler. So whatever
his intentions, whether it's you know, foggy memory about stuff
that's going on decades ago, or deliberate embellishment, this is
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unfortunate pattern that keeps coming up again and again with
Joe Biden.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
You go back to the starter gun analogy that used
a moment ago, Senator. It's like everyone was holding back.
Then all of a sudden, the op ed comes out
in the Washington Post, and it's like, oh, we can
now say this, we can now do this well.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
And I got to say that clip on CNN I
think is funny on like nineteen different levels. Number one,
the most important thing is they're finally reporting on the
fact that Joe Biden is a pathological serial liar. He
has been his entire career. He says things that are false,
he says the things that they're false. Again, he does
it over and over and over and over again. The
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reporters all know that. Yeah, us CNN didn't used to
talk about it. They didn't used to be willing to
say it, because, hey, their job is to protect the
Democrat president, not actually to report on what he says
and does, even though it's a lie.
Speaker 3 (05:11):
That's point number one. On that point number.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
Two, the examples they use are deliberately minor examples. They're
deliberately not that consequential. They didn't include the lie that
Joe Biden just did last week where he said he
was at ground zero the day after nine to eleven
and he saw it right there. That's a flat out lie.
Speaker 3 (05:32):
No, he wasn't.
Speaker 2 (05:33):
He was on the floor of the Senate on September twelfth,
two thousand and one. He did not go the day
after nine to eleven. It's just at an absolute lie.
But they didn't include that one because that is well.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
I laugh, because they put at the bottom of the
screen on the ticker, but they didn't mention it in
their comments. They're like, well, it was like the pretext
was like, let's not mention that one, because I think
that makes too many Americans angry that you would place
yourself at the ground zero the day after nine to eleven,
So we'll just put at the bottom of the screen,
but we won't even talk about it. Where our work words.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
And most significantly, they do not include his repeated lies
about his corruption with his son, Hunter Biden. They don't
include the lie I've never spoken with my son about
his overseas business dealings. That's now demonstrably false. Even the
White House is backed away from it. But far be
it from CNN to admit that that's a lie, because
that actually that goes to their conceit no evidence, no evidence,
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no evidence, there's no evidence, no direct evidence. We obviously
had an entire podcast explaining what they mean when they
say no no direct evidence and why they're lying. So
they don't include the most consequential and significant ones. And
I got to say, for those of you that are
watching this on YouTube, this is one of our three
pods a week that is both on YouTube and on audio.
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You can see the images they put up, and they
have a whole series of clips of Joe Biden, every
one of them.
Speaker 3 (06:51):
He's smiling.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
Yeah, they're all good. He looks like a genial grandfather.
Speaker 3 (06:56):
So he's a.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
Liar, but he's just like it old he just haven't fine,
he's just you.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
I mean, who else hasn't claimed they were at ground
zero after nine to eleven when they weren't. That's just
what really old genial uncle Joe's do. So CNN is
starting to criticize them, but they're so bad at it,
They're so used to being the praetorian guard protecting him
that they can't really bring themselves to do it. That
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being said, look this the Washington Post flipping on him,
CNN flipping on him. This is significant, and I think
the Democrat intelligentsia is getting nervous and Ben. I believe
there is now a real possibility Joe Biden is not
the Democrat nominee in twenty twenty four. And I think
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there are two ways this potentially plays out. One way
is the pressure ratchets up internally within the Democrat Party
significantly enough that Biden ends up back out. I think
there's some chance of that. He didn't want to, but
I got to say. The weird thing about Democrats their
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command and control.
Speaker 3 (08:07):
They are collectivists.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
And if enough of the power brokers go to Biden
and say enough is enough is enough, I think there
is some possibility, says I'm out.
Speaker 3 (08:18):
I did what I came to do.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
I stopped Donald Trump from getting in office in twenty
twenty one.
Speaker 3 (08:24):
I'm done.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
I'm riding off into the sunset. That's actually what David
Igdasias says. Look, you can victory lap. You did what
you wanted to do. And by the way, one of
the things fueling that is the unease about Kamala Harris.
Kamala Harris's numbers, her pole support is terrible, her unfavorables
are terrible.
Speaker 1 (08:45):
Worse than his, and his poll numbers, to be clear,
are at Jimmy Carter.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
Levels or thirty nine percent approval ratings, and hers are
worse in the twenties. It makes you wonder if she
wears mint flavored shoes, because daily she seems to stick
her foot in her mouth and Democrats are nervous. Look,
Joe Biden is eighty years old. If Biden is elected
in twenty twenty four, the actuarial tables are very significant.
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The odds are high that he does not live out
a second term, that he dies sometime in the White House.
That's just the realities of the age he's at, which
means in this next election, if the Democrat ticket is
Biden Harris, A huge part of it is going to
be you pull that lever for Joe Biden. You are
voting for President Kamala Harris, and that number one scares
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the heck I think out of a lot of voters.
But number two makes Democrat Democrats nervous because they recognize
it scares the heck out of a lot of voters.
Now you asked, Okay, might they dump Kamala Harris as VP?
Speaker 3 (09:53):
I think the chances of that are zero?
Speaker 1 (09:54):
Is it for the same reason that I think it's
probably zero, and that is if it was a white male,
they'd have a much easier time. I'm getting rid of
that person. But this is an African American female. How
do you offload an African American female without having to
worry that women are going to turn against you? Yeah,
and minorities would turn against you, saying how dare you
get rid of our woman? Who could be the first
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female president in the history of the United States of
America could be Kamala Harris, not because anyone elects her,
just because of age and him having to resign or
based on age that he could die in office.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
So yes, And especially because the Democrats are such hyper
bean counting, they put everyone into categories, so they don't
think of you as a human being. They think of
you you are a man, you were a white man,
you were a black woman, like whatever your race, whatever
your category. Ideally you're a transgender, you know, vegetarian, pantheist
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or whatever. But whatever your category, they put you into it.
If it were some poor slub white guy, if the
VP were Joe Biden, see ya, they'd put him out
on a boat with a guy saying Hail Mary as
he puts around in his forehead as they do, and
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Godfather too. That's what they do. And I mean that figuratively.
I can just see the fact checkers now. Cruz says
they're going to murder him, though that's not what I'm saying.
I'm saying they'd get rid of him, and get rid
of him really quickly. I don't think the Democrats would
be willing to dump Kamala Harris because they view African
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American women as such an essential part of their political
coalition to victory that I think they'd be terrified of
pissing off black women.
Speaker 3 (11:41):
And if African American women stayed home.
Speaker 2 (11:44):
Democrats lose, so I don't think they can dump Kamala
Harris as much as as the Washington Post columnists might
want them to. So they're two scenarios in which Joe
Biden is not the nominee. I believe number one, the
powers that be in the Democrat Party convinced Joe Biden
to pull out. If that happens, I think it's a
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free for all. I think a bunch of people get in.
I think the top four Democrats who get in are
Kamala Harris, Pete Bootage, Edge, Gavin Newsom, and Elizabeth Warren.
And I think all four of them get in. I
think Gretchen Whitmer probably gets in as well. I think
there are some others that get in. I think you
probably get five to ten candidates who jump in the
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instant Biden is out now, in my view, the top
tier of the first four I listed, and I think
in that primary, I believe Elizabeth Warren wins that primary. Really,
and when I say that that shocks people, I get
a lot of gasps.
Speaker 1 (12:42):
But I'd be to that group right now because that
was not what I thought you were gonna say. Why
Elizabeth Warren out of all them. I mean, she has
Pokehontas for a reason.
Speaker 2 (12:50):
Because I think Elizabeth Warren is the ID of today's
Democrat Party. She is the hard left, angry Marxist and
that is where the heart is. Look, it's Elizabeth Warren
and Bernie Sanders and AOC that drive the Democrat policy
agenda right now because the entire party is terrified of her.
In twenty twenty, Elizabeth Warren was splitting the crazy moon
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bat Marxist left with Bernie Sanders. Yeah, and the two
of them were dividing that vote, which is what let
Joe Biden win that primary. I don't think Bernie runs
this time. I think he will recognize he's too old
to run this time. And so I think Elizabeth has
the crazy left winger lane all to herself, and I
think that beats the rest of that field. That scenario one,
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Elizabeth Warren comes out of a wide open, real Democrat primary. Now,
the thing about it is you're running out of time,
So I'll give you some deadlines. October sixteenth is the
filing deadline for major party candidates in Nevada. November tenth
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is the filing deadline for major major party candidates at Alabama.
November fourteenth is the filing deadline for major party candidates
in Arkansas. So we're starting to get to filing deadlines
where it becomes exceedingly difficult to get on the ballot.
And so if this scenario happens, it has to happen fast.
Speaker 1 (14:18):
That was my question at the timeline. If Joe Biden's
gonna if he's gonna be pushed out, forced out, because
it's not gonna be on his own accord.
Speaker 3 (14:24):
Next sixty days, next sixty days, Yeah, I mean it's
we've got it.
Speaker 1 (14:28):
So then here's my question. Do we see the media
change the way they're covering the Biden crime family over
the next sixty days is part of the final push
to get him to realize he can't run.
Speaker 3 (14:38):
I think that is entirely possible.
Speaker 2 (14:40):
I think Washington Post and CNN are sort of the
opening shots. And if we see in the next couple
of weeks, if we see the media actually covering all
of Biden's enormous problems, that's the pressure mounting. There's a
second scenario, and this scenario I think is more likely
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and a heck of a lot more dangerous, which is
fast forward to next year. Fast forward to the Democrat
National Convention. It's going to be in Chicago, Illinois, and
it is August nineteenth through twenty second. If we get
to August of next year and number one, Biden's mental
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diminishment has gotten even worse and it becomes obvious to
anyone that he can't find his shoes, and Democrats decide, okay,
all of this downside is really worrying us. Then the
convention is the opportunity to parachute someone in. You parachute
someone in by having some story that for health reasons,
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Biden's not able to continue. How the Democrats execute that exactly,
I don't know. But the Democrats are very big on
smoke filled rooms and forcing through the outcome they want
and they obey orders. Now, if you're a Democrat, pubah.
And by the way, the Democrats also have what are
called super delegates. Republicans don't have super delegates. Super delegates
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are typically elected officials that have disproportionate power at their convention.
They have the ability to really move the votes. If
you get to the August convention for Democrats and they've
collectively lost their nerve on Biden said, it's time to
put Joe out to pasture. What do they do then, Well,
the natural thing to say would be, okay, it'll be
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one of those top four. And here's the problem. Whoever
they pick is a problem. They pick Kamala Harris, She's
the vice president in some ways the natural choice. All
of the downsides of Kamala Harris make that a really
dangerous choice. If they pick Gavin Newsom, that makes some
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California Democrats happy. The problem is you're replacing an African
American woman in the Democrat Party with a white guy.
That a rich white guy, a very rich white guy.
You want to talk about a recipe for discontent. That's
a big problem. They could go with Pete Boudhajeedge, another
white guy, but Buddha Jedge is gay. That's at least
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the gay lesbian community is a big chunk of the
Democrat coalition. So rich liberals would really like Pete bootaj Edge,
and a lot of the Democrat donors are gay and lesbian.
That's a major chunk of the funding stream for a
Democrat candidate. But you have the same problem if you
jettison an African American woman who's vice president for a
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white guy in the Democrat primary, you're really asking for trouble.
An option for is Elizabeth Warren. Well, Elizabeth Warren makes
the crazy moon bat leftists happy, but you have the
same everyone else who doesn't get it. I think anyone
they go with as a coronation. It's different than an
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open primary where Warren wins, because primary voters vote for
that gives an element of legitimacy that the people who
don't win can live with. If it's just the king
maker saying nope, we pick you, whoever doesn't get picked,
everyone else's pissed. So here's the scenario that I think
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is perhaps most likely and most dangerous. In August of
twenty twenty four, the Democrat kingmakers jettison Joe Biden and
parachute in Michelle Obama, and I want you to pause
and reflect on it.
Speaker 1 (18:36):
Oh, I'm pausing, and I'm reflecting, as we said, and
so is everybody else listening right now.
Speaker 3 (18:40):
I view this as a very serious danger.
Speaker 1 (18:45):
I'm smiling right now because it terrifies me. And I
also could totally see this happening.
Speaker 2 (18:48):
So, Michelle Obama, number one, you don't infuriate African American women,
which is a critical part of the constituency that Democrats
are relying on to win. But number two, you so
avoid the problem if you pick from any of the four.
The other three are pissed because they're all, to some
extent peers, they're rivals, they're all jabbin knives at each other.
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Michelle Obama, because she was first lady, has the ability
to kind of parachute in above all four and say, hey,
we're not picking among any of you. You guys can
all fight it out. Next time. You're all going to
be on the same level. We're coming. This is the
Obamas saving the day. And I think in terms of
a solution that unifies Democrats, there ain't nothing like that.
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I also think Michelle is not all that eager to
run for president, but to parachute in in August of
twenty four a couple of months before the presidency and
suddenly wake up and be president not a bad gig.
It's not a bad gig at all. Now would she
do it? I don't know. I've met Michelle, but I
don't know her personally in any meaningful way. I don't
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know if she would do it. I do think Barack
Obama is already running the Biden administration. I think he
is already the puppet master behind this Biden White House.
I don't think Joe Biden is the decision maker. And
so when I see the media turning on Joe Biden
right now, I think the odds of Michelle Obama parachuting
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in in August of twenty twenty four have risen dramatically,
and that ought to scare the hell out anyone who
who is unhappy about the direction this country is going
and doesn't want us to go even crazier in an
even worse direction.
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more question about this scenario with Michelle. If that was
to happen at the conventions you just described it and
Joe Biden walks off the stage, does he turned himself
into the biggest hero of the Democratic Party in history.
Speaker 2 (22:20):
Oh yeah, yeah, I know that they immediately start carving
him on Rushmore figuratively speaking, the rushmore of socialists. Joe
Biden would permanently look. He aspires to be the next FDR,
and part of how Democrats would get him to step
down as saying, by doing this, your FDR. By doing this,
you're George Washington stepping down after two terms. You're demonstrating
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the ultimate statesman principle. Now look, I think Joe Biden
loves the trappings of being president. This guy's wanted to
be president forevers he was two. And to be clear,
I understand that in particular sickness, my hands are not cleaned.
Speaker 3 (22:59):
Yeah, in that.
Speaker 2 (23:00):
Discussion, but so I get it. But I do think
the Democrats appeal to his vanity that you will be
legendary and immortal if you do this, and that may
be an element of making it happen. And I don't
think it is more likely than not. I don't think
it's greater than fifty percent that Biden is not the nominee,
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but I think it's probably twenty five or thirty percent
right now.
Speaker 1 (23:24):
It's interesting that you said that about Michelle because I
was doing my podcast the night after Michelle Obama was
talking with Billy Jing King about equal pay, and she
did this speech the US open in prime time And
I said the next day, not thinking about the connection
you're talking about here, I said it like it was
almost like a coming out political speech. It was the
first time I saw Michelle Obama in a political way.
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It wasn't a first lady's speech. It was a political
ass speech. It was her in her own words, not
under my husband. First lady ask and if you think
about that now, with what you just said, that's scary
as hell.
Speaker 2 (23:56):
And by the way, this is not a new thought
for Democrats. Had Bill Clinton who served two terms, and
then obviously Hillary was presumed to be the heir apparent,
and so the dynamic from Barack to Michelle. Listen, the
Democrats are dynastic. The Democrats are top down. The Democrats
are command and control. And it's because Michelle has a
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claim to already being at a higher level in the
Democrat pecking order than any of the other contenders. It's
the only solution for Democrat power brokers that doesn't cause
a civil war.
Speaker 1 (24:35):
Yeah, and it comes with the best political campaigner in
the Democratic Party, her husband.
Speaker 2 (24:41):
Plus, look, Michelle spent eight years as first lady. First
lady is a position that by design keeps you out
of the political fray. And so Michelle Obama has really
high positives and relatively low negatives. Now she starts getting
into policy, I think she is further left than Barack.
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I think she is further left than Joe Biden. I
think as a president she would be disastrous. But the
American people think not only of her because she's first Lady.
The role of first lady insulates someone. And if she
parachutes in in August with big positives and relatively low negatives,
and she can also say, hey, all the things Joe
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Biden screwed up on that wasn't me. Yeah, that is
really potent politically. If I were a Democrat, I'd be
excited about that.
Speaker 1 (25:32):
There's also something else to happened this week with a
Democratic primary that was shocking to me. You've had people
that made threats against you, You've run for president of
United States of America. I've experienced having people threatened against
me as well. It's not a good feeling. You look
at the Kennedy family and the fact that they've had
assassinations and targeting, and RFK has made it clear he
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wants protection. There was something shocking that had this week
with a man that was dressed liked law enforcement. Thank goodness,
they saw him, they figured it out. There were certain
things he was wearing in his outfit, the way where
his gun was being held on his person that didn't
fit law enforcement, and he was arrested. But you were
upset about this, I think as you should be, because
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why have they still not decided to protect RFK and
what's taking them so long, especially when see things like
this happened.
Speaker 2 (26:25):
Yeah, this was a really disturbing security incident. You had
someone show up at an event for RFK Junior. He
had two firearms and two shoulder holsters that he was wearing.
He was dressed as law enforcement, and it was fraudulent.
He was dressed with a lanyard that indicated he was
a US marshal. He was trying to camouflage. He told
people he was part of rfk's security detail. Thankfully, the
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private security that RFK hired recognized that he wasn't and
they detained and arrested him. But someone coming in with
two loaded firearms and extra magazines impersonating law enforcement is
on its face, exceptionally dangerous. Now, RFK put out the
following statement, We're gonna put it up on the screen.
Here's what RFK said. I'm very grateful that alert and
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fast acting protectors from Gavin de Becker and associates his
private security firm spotted and detained an armed man who
attempted to approach me at my Hispanic Heritage speech at
the Wilshire Ebel Theatre in Los Angeles tonight. The man,
wearing two shoulder hosters with loaded pistols and spare ammunition magazines,
was carrying a US Marshal badge on a lanyard and
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at belt clip federal ID. He identified himself as a
member of my security detail. Armed GDBA team members moved
quickly to isolate and detain the man until LAPD arrived
to make the arrest. I'm also grateful to LAPD for
its rapid response. And then this is in bold in
his tweet. I'm still entertaining a hope that President Biden
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will allow me Secret Service protection, the first presidential candidate
history to whom the White House has denied a request
for protection.
Speaker 1 (28:06):
Now, can you explain the politics of that real quick.
So people don't understand how this works.
Speaker 3 (28:10):
Yeah, let me do that in the way I'm going
to do that.
Speaker 2 (28:11):
I want to put up I retweeted this, and I
retweeted it with my own comment. So let's put up
what I tweeted. I retweeted RFK statement, and here's what
I said. This isn't a left or right issue. The
Biden administration should give Robert Kennedy Junior a security detail now.
(28:34):
Given his tragic family history. Both his father and uncle
were horrifically assassinated and this latest serious security incident, Biden
shouldn't mess around. Under law, quote, major candidates are entitled
(28:56):
a secret service protection. Is Mayorcus's deceivision not to grant
protection political Surely this administration wouldn't put a man's life
at risk Rather than concede that RFK Junior is a
major candidate. The Trump DHS gave Biden protection in March
(29:20):
of twenty twenty after a security incident. MAJORCA should follow
that precedent and expeditiously approve protection for RFK Junior. Now,
the way it works under law is that a candidate
for president is entitled to secret Service protection if they
are a quote major candidate, and being a major candidate,
(29:43):
there are a series of criteria that are used to
ascertain major candidate, including poll numbers. It is the Secretary
of the Department of Homeland Security that makes that determination.
They do so in consultation with a bipartisan advisory committee
that concludes both with Republicans and Democrats at the easy level,
the major party nominees both are entitled to coverage, and
(30:06):
they both get it, but historically they get it earlier
than becoming the nominees. If you look at twenty sixteen,
so I've got some real and personal experience with dealing
with this. In twenty sixteen, in the Republican presidential primary,
Donald Trump was given Secret Service protection relatively early on,
(30:27):
and Ben Carson was given Secret Service protection relatively early on. Now,
Ben Carson did not win a single state. Ben Carson
was given Secret Service protection because the level of death
threats that were directed at him was deemed sufficient that
it merited Secret Service protection. I don't know exactly how
(30:48):
many death threats were talking about, but the Department of
Homeland Security made the determination given this threat level, given
the risk that some lunatic would try to kill an
after Kann American Republican running for president, We're going to
provide Secret Service protection now. As the primary went on,
(31:09):
I won twelve states. For months, the race was essentially
a two man race between me and Donald Trump. No
other Republican other than Trump and I won more than
a single state. So John Kasik won Ohio, Marco Rubio
won Minnesota, and Trump and I won the other forty
eight states. And at the time that I dropped out,
(31:31):
I had won twelve and he had won something like
twenty two to twenty three states, so he'd won about
twice as many states.
Speaker 3 (31:37):
That's when I dropped out.
Speaker 2 (31:39):
So for months earlier, I easily met the standard for
a major candidate, and had I requested Secret Service protection,
I almost certainly would have received it, because under any
objective measure, I met it. In twenty sixteen, I made
the decision not to ask for it. We talked about
it in our campaign because when Secret Service comes into
(32:02):
the campaign, they slow everything down. They come in, they
take over all the security, They set up magnetometers, they
set up metal detectors in the front of the events.
That means people coming to your events often I'll have
to wait one two three hours in line.
Speaker 3 (32:18):
It slows the operation down.
Speaker 2 (32:20):
Once you bring Secret Service in, typically a candidate will
do maybe two or three events a day because it
just slows the entire operation down. In twenty sixteen, we
were running fast and hard. I was doing in days,
six seven, eight, nine events a day.
Speaker 3 (32:37):
I mean, we were going fast.
Speaker 2 (32:40):
And I didn't want pump the brakes to pump the brakes,
I didn't want to slow it down. So we took
security very seriously. So I hired private security, and we
had significant private security. But I would do something at
the end of most events. I'd jump off the front
of the stage and I'd plow into the crowd and
I'd be hugging people, I'd be taking pictures, I'd be
talk to kids. I remember, Secret Service would never let
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you do that.
Speaker 3 (33:03):
They would.
Speaker 1 (33:05):
You stay on the other side.
Speaker 2 (33:07):
And so we made the decision that we wanted to
be faster and more nimble, and that bringing Secret Service
in would slow that down. And we also made the
decision that we had a pretty significant investment in security,
and that we thought we could use private security to
ensure safety while at the same time maintaining speed. In
(33:28):
this instance, you've got RFK Junior Number one, You've got
his unique personal story. His father was murdered while running
for president of the United States, Bobby Kennedy murdered as
a candidate for the Democratic nominee for president, and before that,
his uncle John F. Kennedy was murdered while being President of.
Speaker 3 (33:53):
The United States. Given that history and.
Speaker 2 (33:56):
Given people are just not look at this guy, Coppy
Katz and create look, I think it is a no
brainer that if RFK Junior wants Secret Service protection given
his circumstances, he deserves it. And the reason I believe
the Biden administration hasn't granted it is because if they did,
(34:16):
under it genmizes him, they would have to say he's
a major candidate. And the approach of the Biden White
House is RFK who we never heard of him? Nope, Nope,
nobody running, nobody in the Democrat primary doesn't exist.
Speaker 3 (34:28):
This is a corrodation.
Speaker 2 (34:29):
Joe's down in the basement, and I think it is
purely political. And I ask everyone listening to this, imagine
your reaction if you turned on the TV tomorrow and
saw that RFK Junior, like his father, was murdered while
being a candidate for the Democrat nomination for president.
Speaker 3 (34:51):
Imagine the horror.
Speaker 2 (34:54):
How do you justify the Biden administration saying nope, politics
matters more to us, So good luck you. Hope nothing happens.
This should not be Look, I'm not voting for our
FK junior.
Speaker 3 (35:05):
Yeah, but you should.
Speaker 1 (35:06):
If you're running for president, you should be safe while doing.
Speaker 2 (35:09):
This is the right thing to do. And whether you're
a Democrat or a Republican, this ought to be an
easy choice. And the Biden Whitehouse ought to get their
political heads out of their rear ends and do the
right thing. Listen, they feel confident they can beat OURFK junior,
You're fine. If they're confident, then do the right thing
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and ensure that he's got Secret Service protection so we
don't have a national tragedy on her hands.
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on to something else that happened this week, and this
one actually makes me really angry. It's judges getting involved
in a way that I think is pretty clear it
to election interference. We've seen court dates that have come
out now for Donald Trump, with all these different indictments
in different states, that could be like the days before
Super Tuesday, when any normal candate would be on the
campaign trail. You just mentioned why you guys didn't do
(37:36):
secret service. That's how important is to be to be
fast and right to be campaigning. We're seeing two things
now that seem to be marking the calendar. One, you
could throw this guy into courtroom during dates when he
descerately needs to be out campaigning, taking away his ability
to have a fair election against Joe Biden or whoever
it may be. And two, now you may take away
(37:58):
the president form president. It's America and the leading can
it for the Republican party's voice to talk about the
accusations against him from these the leftists and these people,
these DA's are trying to lock him up by putting
a gag order on what he can say. This seems
un American, it seems Banana Republic. Ask. I think it's
(38:19):
disgusting political poy here. Yet that's what we're really talking
about now, is that real possibility?
Speaker 3 (38:24):
Look, you're exactly right.
Speaker 2 (38:25):
We have talked at length on this podcast about how
the multiple indictments against Donald Trump are election interference. Democrats
have convinced themselves that Donald Trump is Adolf Hitler, and
because they believe he's Hitler, anything, anything, anything is justified
to stop him. The ends justify the means, and they're
willing to corrupt the legal process to turn the Department
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of Justice into a political weapon. They're willing to do
everything they can to stop the voters from daring to
make a decision to vote in the way these angry
partisan Democrats don't want the voters to vote. We've gone
over two hundred years of our nation's history. We've never
indicted a president or a former president, or a major
candidate for president. In the last six months, Democrats have
(39:09):
done so four separate times. The US Department of Justice
under Biden is the most partisan and political we've ever seen.
And Jack Smith, the special prosecutor, we've talked at length.
He is a partisan. He has a history of abusing power,
including this is not the first presidential candidate or potential
presidential candidate he's gone after he went after Bob McDonald,
(39:32):
the governor of Virginia, was considered a credible presidential candidate.
Jack Smith indicted him, destroyed his political career, destroyed his life,
and then on appeal, the Supreme Court unanimously throughout the
conviction as not being consistent with law. But he'd already
done its job, which here out he took him out.
In this instance, the case in the District of Columbia
(39:55):
is profoundly dangerous. It's profoundly dangerous because number one, the
jury pool in the District Columbia is over ninety percent
about ninety four percent Democrat. So you're going to get
a jury that in all likelihood hates Donald Trump and
believes he's Adolf Hitler. Now, if you believe someone's ad
Off Hitler, he's a victim. That's not a hard guilty
(40:16):
for whatever the crime is Yeah, it's just you hate
if it's Adolf Hitler. Yes, we also have a district
judge who has demonstrated and earned a reputation as being
one of the furthest left Democrat district judges on the
federal bench in d C. Who is presiding this trial
is designed to directly interfere with the election. But Jacksmith
(40:38):
said this is not enough, and so he filed a motion,
a motion for a gag order. So he's gone to
this left wing district judge and he's asked for a
gag order. He says, defendant has repeatedly and widely disseminated
public statements attacking the citizens of the district Columbia. That's
by daring to point out that ninety four percent of
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DC voters vote Democrat, and that's going to be the
jury pool the court. That's by pointing out that the
judge has a record of being one of the most
left wing Democrats on the entire federal bench.
Speaker 3 (41:11):
Prosecutors.
Speaker 2 (41:12):
That's by pointing out that jack Smith is a hard
core partisan Democrat, has already abused his power repeatedly and
prospective witnesses. The government therefore requests that the court quote
enter a narrowly tailored order pursue into local criminal Rule
fifty seven C that restricts certain prejudicial extra judicial statements,
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And in particular, what they ask for the government seeks
this is a quote A narrow, well defined restriction that
is targeted at extra judicial statements that present a serious
and substantial danger of materially prejudicing the case. The government's
proposed order specifies that such statements would include A statements
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regarding the identity, testimony, or credibility of prospective witnesses, and
b statements about any party witness, attorney, court personnel, or
potential jurors that are disparaging and inflamma territory or intimidating.
Now let's be clear who do they mean by potential witnesses.
They mean people like Bill Barr yep, and they mean
(42:23):
people like Mike Pence. So Mike Pence is literally running
against Donald Trump right now for the Republican nomination for president.
And you have the Biden Department of Justice asking a
federal judge issue an order that Donald Trump cannot say
a critical word of Mike Pence about one of his
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opponents in the primary, Like, holy crap, if this doesn't
piss you off, You're not paying attention. I mean, it
is truly breathtaking. You want to understand why this is
election interference? Jay believes the federal court can order one
political candidate you're not allowed to criticize your opponent. Just
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don't say a word. Don't say a word at all,
despite the fact that you're facing a political persecution designed
to interfere with the election, You're not.
Speaker 3 (43:16):
Allowed to say it.
Speaker 2 (43:17):
And if you do, by the way, look, a gag
order is typically enforced by contempt and by jail. So
what the Biden doj is proposing is if Donald Trump
says a negative word about Mike Pence, that the US
Department of Justice will show up and arrest him and
put him in jail for saying a negative word about
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one of his opponents running for president.
Speaker 1 (43:39):
And by the way, they would do that. Let's be clear,
they would love to arrest him again.
Speaker 2 (43:43):
That's what they want, and to keep him in jail.
This is election interference. It is wildly unconstitutional. It is
a direct violation of the First Amendment. It is also
a direct violation of the right to vote of our
democratic process in this country. Now, the Democrat talking heads
will say, look, sometimes you have gag orders. If you're
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going against the mafia, bosh, you're going up against al Capone.
Courts will enter orders saying, Okay, you can't intimidate witnesses,
you can't say things that will prejudice the jury. You're right,
in an ordinary criminal trial. Those things can happen. In
an ordinary criminal trial. The defendant is not a leading
candidate for president of the United States actively running for
(44:29):
president of the United States. And my guess, I don't
think the district court will grant this. I don't know that.
I don't know this judge at all. I've never met her.
Her record demonstrates she's left wing. But I think if
the district court granted this order, it would be exceptionally foolish.
Why because the order would be appealed and it would
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be overturned on appeal. I do not believe there's any
way the Supreme Court of the United States would allow
a leading candidate for president to be enjoined. To be
ordered from a court, you are not allowed to criticize
your political opponents. I mean, if you can envision, imagine debate,
let's we have a subsequent Republican debate. Trump shows up
and Mike Pence blasts him, and Trump turns and says,
(45:15):
I'm sorry, I'm prevented by court order from.
Speaker 1 (45:17):
Respond, yeah, from defending myself.
Speaker 2 (45:20):
That is not free speech, that is not democracy, that
is not how our system operates.
Speaker 1 (45:26):
And that's election interference.
Speaker 2 (45:29):
Exactly, perfect example of what capsulates. And by the way,
that's what they want, actually what they want. Look, they
know in that circumstance, Donald Trump could not restrain himself, sure,
and then they would arrest him.
Speaker 3 (45:41):
And then they would arrest him.
Speaker 2 (45:42):
I mean, I mean, you can almost envision the jack
booted thugs sitting by the side of the debate and
as Trump blasts his opponents, and he'll blast all his
opponents because that's what he does. You can almost envision
them walking out in the middle of the debate and saying, sir,
you're under arrest. If that is not election interference, holy cow,
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it really shows just how extreme the Democrats have gotten.
This is horrific. By the way, let's be clear, I
would be every bit as opposed to an order preventing
Joe Biden from criticizing his opponents from criticizing RFK Junior
from criticizing Donald Trump. Not to be clear, Joe Biden
couldn't get up in the morning and speak without criticizing
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Donald Trump. He says, good morning. Trump is the devil.
That's just how he addresses it. And he also demonizes
every other Republican because he's in his mental and feeblement,
he's also become an even more vicious partisan. But I
would be equally and animately opposed to any court trying
to prevent Joe Biden from attacking me or Trump or
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anybody else, because that's what free speech and elections are
all about. But today's Democrats, they don't believe in democracy,
which is why these indictments are happening. They want to
stop the voters from voting in a way they don't like.
And they don't believe in free speech, which is why
they want to muzzle their leading opponent for president. It
is it's a brave new world.
Speaker 3 (47:07):
We're living here.
Speaker 1 (47:07):
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Center is always nice to be sitting with you in studio,
and for people that are listening audio only, you can
watch this episode on YouTube as well. Let's start with
this idea, and I think it's time to have a
real discussion about it, the possibility that Joe Biden may
actually not be the nominee for the Democratic Party. They
seem to be turning on him. Your initial reaction to this.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
Well, I think the odds that Joe Biden is not
the Democrats nominee in twenty twenty four have risen significantly,
maybe by as much as twenty or thirty percent, And
I think they're all sorts of inditia that suggests that
Democrats are getting nervous. They're getting nervous about his age.
They're looking at polling numbers that show two thirds of
Americans think he's too old to be president. They're getting
(00:47):
nervous about all of the evidence of Biden corruption. You've
got Hunter being indicted, You've got all the connections to Joe.
And then what we've seen in recent weeks is the
media's turning on them. And remember the role of the media. Sadly,
they're no longer journalists, they no longer report news. They
are the left wing of the Democrat Party. And when
the media turns on the presumed Democrat nominee, I think
(01:09):
that is the cutting edge of the Democrat intelligentsia saying
we may have to cut bait and find someone new. So,
for example, David Ignatius, Yeah, columnists in the Washington Post.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
Say that again in the Washington Post, saying this, this
is something that doesn't happen.
Speaker 3 (01:27):
Well, he wrote, tell us what he wrote.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
Then he wrote something interesting and basically was saying it's
time to get rid of Joe Biden or maybe Kamala Harris,
or maybe both. And one of the things he talked
about in here he said he was concerned about Harris
that even with Biden, because he says that, well, one
way that Biden could help himself is by encouraging quote
a more open vice presidential selection process that can produce
(01:51):
a stronger running mate. So he's even saying, hey, Joe Biden,
you're in deep trouble. Democrats need to pay attention to this.
But if you're not going to stop, if you're not
gonna say I'm not going to run, you might want
to look at replace your vice presidential candidate. Because maybe
that will at least make you'll go, all right, well,
we like you a little bit more because we know
we're going to replace you with someone that we like.
Because her poll numbers are worse than Joe Biden's, well,
(02:14):
well they are.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
And the fact that the Washington Post is throwing that
marker out there, and let's come back to that, because
I want to talk about the likelihood of Joe not
being the nominee. I want to talk about the likelihood
of Kamala not being the vice presidentdential nominee. But first,
the fact that the Washington Post puts that out there
in a very prominent column. It's like the starter's pistol
and the media, they all listen to the same things.
(02:36):
And so when you have the Washington Post start saying that,
when you have the New York Times starts saying that,
you start having others. So, for example, here's CNN this
past week. Give a listen he has done I don't
know if it's similar things, but he's sort of told
some stories that don't line up quite like this before.
Speaker 4 (02:56):
Yeah, this president has a pattern at this point of
either in venting or embellishing stories about his own past,
his biography. He did it three times in one speech
last month alone. He claimed he had witnessed bridge collapse
in Pittsburgh when he actually showed up about six hours later.
He claimed that his grandfather had died just days before
(03:16):
he was born himself at the same hospital. In fact,
his grandpa died more than a year before in a
different state, not the same hospital. And he also repeated
a favorite fallse story that I and others had debunked
over and over again about a supposed conversation with an
Amtrak train conductor he was friends with who was actually
deceased at the time the conversation would have had to
take place. And that's not all. There are some more
(03:37):
serious ones, in my view. Previously in his presidency, he
claimed at one point he'd been arrested during a civil
rights protest, when in other versions of the story he
just said an officer had taken him home from a protest.
He said he had visited the Pittsburgh synagogue where warshippers
were killed in a twenty eighteen match shooting. In fact,
he had actually spoken to the rabbi, but but never went.
(03:57):
And he's made a whole bunch of others too, he
said At one point Republicans like to bring this up.
He said that he used to drive a tractor trailer
and he used to drive an eighteen wheeler. Never happened.
The White House later clarified he used to drive a
school bus at one point for as a job briefly
school bus, of course, not an eighteen wheeler. So whatever
his intentions, whether it's you know, foggy memory about stuff
that's going on decades ago, or deliberate embellishment, this is
(04:20):
unfortunate pattern that keeps coming up again and again with
Joe Biden.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
You go back to the starter gun analogy that used
a moment ago, Senator. It's like everyone was holding back.
Then all of a sudden, the op ed comes out
in the Washington Post, and it's like, oh, we can
now say this, we can now do this well.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
And I got to say that clip on CNN I
think is funny on like nineteen different levels. Number one,
the most important thing is they're finally reporting on the
fact that Joe Biden is a pathological serial liar. He
has been his entire career. He says things that are false,
he says the things that they're false. Again, he does
it over and over and over and over again. The
(04:57):
reporters all know that. Yeah, us CNN didn't used to
talk about it. They didn't used to be willing to
say it, because, hey, their job is to protect the
Democrat president, not actually to report on what he says
and does, even though it's a lie.
Speaker 3 (05:11):
That's point number one. On that point number.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
Two, the examples they use are deliberately minor examples. They're
deliberately not that consequential. They didn't include the lie that
Joe Biden just did last week where he said he
was at ground zero the day after nine to eleven
and he saw it right there. That's a flat out lie.
Speaker 3 (05:32):
No, he wasn't.
Speaker 2 (05:33):
He was on the floor of the Senate on September twelfth,
two thousand and one. He did not go the day
after nine to eleven. It's just at an absolute lie.
But they didn't include that one because that is well.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
I laugh, because they put at the bottom of the
screen on the ticker, but they didn't mention it in
their comments. They're like, well, it was like the pretext
was like, let's not mention that one, because I think
that makes too many Americans angry that you would place
yourself at the ground zero the day after nine to eleven,
So we'll just put at the bottom of the screen,
but we won't even talk about it. Where our work words.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
And most significantly, they do not include his repeated lies
about his corruption with his son, Hunter Biden. They don't
include the lie I've never spoken with my son about
his overseas business dealings. That's now demonstrably false. Even the
White House is backed away from it. But far be
it from CNN to admit that that's a lie, because
that actually that goes to their conceit no evidence, no evidence,
(06:23):
no evidence, there's no evidence, no direct evidence. We obviously
had an entire podcast explaining what they mean when they
say no no direct evidence and why they're lying. So
they don't include the most consequential and significant ones. And
I got to say, for those of you that are
watching this on YouTube, this is one of our three
pods a week that is both on YouTube and on audio.
(06:46):
You can see the images they put up, and they
have a whole series of clips of Joe Biden, every
one of them.
Speaker 3 (06:51):
He's smiling.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
Yeah, they're all good. He looks like a genial grandfather.
Speaker 3 (06:56):
So he's a.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
Liar, but he's just like it old he just haven't fine,
he's just you.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
I mean, who else hasn't claimed they were at ground
zero after nine to eleven when they weren't. That's just
what really old genial uncle Joe's do. So CNN is
starting to criticize them, but they're so bad at it,
They're so used to being the praetorian guard protecting him
that they can't really bring themselves to do it. That
(07:23):
being said, look this the Washington Post flipping on him,
CNN flipping on him. This is significant, and I think
the Democrat intelligentsia is getting nervous and Ben. I believe
there is now a real possibility Joe Biden is not
the Democrat nominee in twenty twenty four. And I think
(07:45):
there are two ways this potentially plays out. One way
is the pressure ratchets up internally within the Democrat Party
significantly enough that Biden ends up back out. I think
there's some chance of that. He didn't want to, but
I got to say. The weird thing about Democrats their
(08:06):
command and control.
Speaker 3 (08:07):
They are collectivists.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
And if enough of the power brokers go to Biden
and say enough is enough is enough, I think there
is some possibility, says I'm out.
Speaker 3 (08:18):
I did what I came to do.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
I stopped Donald Trump from getting in office in twenty
twenty one.
Speaker 3 (08:24):
I'm done.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
I'm riding off into the sunset. That's actually what David
Igdasias says. Look, you can victory lap. You did what
you wanted to do. And by the way, one of
the things fueling that is the unease about Kamala Harris.
Kamala Harris's numbers, her pole support is terrible, her unfavorables
are terrible.
Speaker 1 (08:45):
Worse than his, and his poll numbers, to be clear,
are at Jimmy Carter.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
Levels or thirty nine percent approval ratings, and hers are
worse in the twenties. It makes you wonder if she
wears mint flavored shoes, because daily she seems to stick
her foot in her mouth and Democrats are nervous. Look,
Joe Biden is eighty years old. If Biden is elected
in twenty twenty four, the actuarial tables are very significant.
(09:12):
The odds are high that he does not live out
a second term, that he dies sometime in the White House.
That's just the realities of the age he's at, which
means in this next election, if the Democrat ticket is
Biden Harris, A huge part of it is going to
be you pull that lever for Joe Biden. You are
voting for President Kamala Harris, and that number one scares
(09:36):
the heck I think out of a lot of voters.
But number two makes Democrat Democrats nervous because they recognize
it scares the heck out of a lot of voters.
Now you asked, Okay, might they dump Kamala Harris as VP?
Speaker 3 (09:53):
I think the chances of that are zero?
Speaker 1 (09:54):
Is it for the same reason that I think it's
probably zero, and that is if it was a white male,
they'd have a much easier time. I'm getting rid of
that person. But this is an African American female. How
do you offload an African American female without having to
worry that women are going to turn against you? Yeah,
and minorities would turn against you, saying how dare you
get rid of our woman? Who could be the first
(10:15):
female president in the history of the United States of
America could be Kamala Harris, not because anyone elects her,
just because of age and him having to resign or
based on age that he could die in office.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
So yes, And especially because the Democrats are such hyper
bean counting, they put everyone into categories, so they don't
think of you as a human being. They think of
you you are a man, you were a white man,
you were a black woman, like whatever your race, whatever
your category. Ideally you're a transgender, you know, vegetarian, pantheist
(10:49):
or whatever. But whatever your category, they put you into it.
If it were some poor slub white guy, if the
VP were Joe Biden, see ya, they'd put him out
on a boat with a guy saying Hail Mary as
he puts around in his forehead as they do, and
(11:10):
Godfather too. That's what they do. And I mean that figuratively.
I can just see the fact checkers now. Cruz says
they're going to murder him, though that's not what I'm saying.
I'm saying they'd get rid of him, and get rid
of him really quickly. I don't think the Democrats would
be willing to dump Kamala Harris because they view African
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American women as such an essential part of their political
coalition to victory that I think they'd be terrified of
pissing off black women.
Speaker 3 (11:41):
And if African American women stayed home.
Speaker 2 (11:44):
Democrats lose, so I don't think they can dump Kamala
Harris as much as as the Washington Post columnists might
want them to. So they're two scenarios in which Joe
Biden is not the nominee. I believe number one, the
powers that be in the Democrat Party convinced Joe Biden
to pull out. If that happens, I think it's a
(12:05):
free for all. I think a bunch of people get in.
I think the top four Democrats who get in are
Kamala Harris, Pete Bootage, Edge, Gavin Newsom, and Elizabeth Warren.
And I think all four of them get in. I
think Gretchen Whitmer probably gets in as well. I think
there are some others that get in. I think you
probably get five to ten candidates who jump in the
(12:28):
instant Biden is out now, in my view, the top
tier of the first four I listed, and I think
in that primary, I believe Elizabeth Warren wins that primary. Really,
and when I say that that shocks people, I get
a lot of gasps.
Speaker 1 (12:42):
But I'd be to that group right now because that
was not what I thought you were gonna say. Why
Elizabeth Warren out of all them. I mean, she has
Pokehontas for a reason.
Speaker 2 (12:50):
Because I think Elizabeth Warren is the ID of today's
Democrat Party. She is the hard left, angry Marxist and
that is where the heart is. Look, it's Elizabeth Warren
and Bernie Sanders and AOC that drive the Democrat policy
agenda right now because the entire party is terrified of her.
In twenty twenty, Elizabeth Warren was splitting the crazy moon
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bat Marxist left with Bernie Sanders. Yeah, and the two
of them were dividing that vote, which is what let
Joe Biden win that primary. I don't think Bernie runs
this time. I think he will recognize he's too old
to run this time. And so I think Elizabeth has
the crazy left winger lane all to herself, and I
think that beats the rest of that field. That scenario one,
(13:38):
Elizabeth Warren comes out of a wide open, real Democrat primary. Now,
the thing about it is you're running out of time,
So I'll give you some deadlines. October sixteenth is the
filing deadline for major party candidates in Nevada. November tenth
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is the filing deadline for major major party candidates at Alabama.
November fourteenth is the filing deadline for major party candidates
in Arkansas. So we're starting to get to filing deadlines
where it becomes exceedingly difficult to get on the ballot.
And so if this scenario happens, it has to happen fast.
Speaker 1 (14:18):
That was my question at the timeline. If Joe Biden's
gonna if he's gonna be pushed out, forced out, because
it's not gonna be on his own accord.
Speaker 3 (14:24):
Next sixty days, next sixty days, Yeah, I mean it's
we've got it.
Speaker 1 (14:28):
So then here's my question. Do we see the media
change the way they're covering the Biden crime family over
the next sixty days is part of the final push
to get him to realize he can't run.
Speaker 3 (14:38):
I think that is entirely possible.
Speaker 2 (14:40):
I think Washington Post and CNN are sort of the
opening shots. And if we see in the next couple
of weeks, if we see the media actually covering all
of Biden's enormous problems, that's the pressure mounting. There's a
second scenario, and this scenario I think is more likely
(15:00):
and a heck of a lot more dangerous, which is
fast forward to next year. Fast forward to the Democrat
National Convention. It's going to be in Chicago, Illinois, and
it is August nineteenth through twenty second. If we get
to August of next year and number one, Biden's mental
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diminishment has gotten even worse and it becomes obvious to
anyone that he can't find his shoes, and Democrats decide, okay,
all of this downside is really worrying us. Then the
convention is the opportunity to parachute someone in. You parachute
someone in by having some story that for health reasons,
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Biden's not able to continue. How the Democrats execute that exactly,
I don't know. But the Democrats are very big on
smoke filled rooms and forcing through the outcome they want
and they obey orders. Now, if you're a Democrat, pubah.
And by the way, the Democrats also have what are
called super delegates. Republicans don't have super delegates. Super delegates
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are typically elected officials that have disproportionate power at their convention.
They have the ability to really move the votes. If
you get to the August convention for Democrats and they've
collectively lost their nerve on Biden said, it's time to
put Joe out to pasture. What do they do then, Well,
the natural thing to say would be, okay, it'll be
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one of those top four. And here's the problem. Whoever
they pick is a problem. They pick Kamala Harris, She's
the vice president in some ways the natural choice. All
of the downsides of Kamala Harris make that a really
dangerous choice. If they pick Gavin Newsom, that makes some
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California Democrats happy. The problem is you're replacing an African
American woman in the Democrat Party with a white guy.
That a rich white guy, a very rich white guy.
You want to talk about a recipe for discontent. That's
a big problem. They could go with Pete Boudhajeedge, another
white guy, but Buddha Jedge is gay. That's at least
(17:15):
the gay lesbian community is a big chunk of the
Democrat coalition. So rich liberals would really like Pete bootaj Edge,
and a lot of the Democrat donors are gay and lesbian.
That's a major chunk of the funding stream for a
Democrat candidate. But you have the same problem if you
jettison an African American woman who's vice president for a
(17:37):
white guy in the Democrat primary, you're really asking for trouble.
An option for is Elizabeth Warren. Well, Elizabeth Warren makes
the crazy moon bat leftists happy, but you have the
same everyone else who doesn't get it. I think anyone
they go with as a coronation. It's different than an
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open primary where Warren wins, because primary voters vote for
that gives an element of legitimacy that the people who
don't win can live with. If it's just the king
maker saying nope, we pick you, whoever doesn't get picked,
everyone else's pissed. So here's the scenario that I think
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is perhaps most likely and most dangerous. In August of
twenty twenty four, the Democrat kingmakers jettison Joe Biden and
parachute in Michelle Obama, and I want you to pause
and reflect on it.
Speaker 1 (18:36):
Oh, I'm pausing, and I'm reflecting, as we said, and
so is everybody else listening right now.
Speaker 3 (18:40):
I view this as a very serious danger.
Speaker 1 (18:45):
I'm smiling right now because it terrifies me. And I
also could totally see this happening.
Speaker 2 (18:48):
So, Michelle Obama, number one, you don't infuriate African American women,
which is a critical part of the constituency that Democrats
are relying on to win. But number two, you so
avoid the problem if you pick from any of the four.
The other three are pissed because they're all, to some
extent peers, they're rivals, they're all jabbin knives at each other.
(19:10):
Michelle Obama, because she was first lady, has the ability
to kind of parachute in above all four and say, hey,
we're not picking among any of you. You guys can
all fight it out. Next time. You're all going to
be on the same level. We're coming. This is the
Obamas saving the day. And I think in terms of
a solution that unifies Democrats, there ain't nothing like that.
(19:38):
I also think Michelle is not all that eager to
run for president, but to parachute in in August of
twenty four a couple of months before the presidency and
suddenly wake up and be president not a bad gig.
It's not a bad gig at all. Now would she
do it? I don't know. I've met Michelle, but I
don't know her personally in any meaningful way. I don't
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know if she would do it. I do think Barack
Obama is already running the Biden administration. I think he
is already the puppet master behind this Biden White House.
I don't think Joe Biden is the decision maker. And
so when I see the media turning on Joe Biden
right now, I think the odds of Michelle Obama parachuting
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in in August of twenty twenty four have risen dramatically,
and that ought to scare the hell out anyone who
who is unhappy about the direction this country is going
and doesn't want us to go even crazier in an
even worse direction.
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more question about this scenario with Michelle. If that was
to happen at the conventions you just described it and
Joe Biden walks off the stage, does he turned himself
into the biggest hero of the Democratic Party in history.
Speaker 2 (22:20):
Oh yeah, yeah, I know that they immediately start carving
him on Rushmore figuratively speaking, the rushmore of socialists. Joe
Biden would permanently look. He aspires to be the next FDR,
and part of how Democrats would get him to step
down as saying, by doing this, your FDR. By doing this,
you're George Washington stepping down after two terms. You're demonstrating
(22:42):
the ultimate statesman principle. Now look, I think Joe Biden
loves the trappings of being president. This guy's wanted to
be president forevers he was two. And to be clear,
I understand that in particular sickness, my hands are not cleaned.
Speaker 3 (22:59):
Yeah, in that.
Speaker 2 (23:00):
Discussion, but so I get it. But I do think
the Democrats appeal to his vanity that you will be
legendary and immortal if you do this, and that may
be an element of making it happen. And I don't
think it is more likely than not. I don't think
it's greater than fifty percent that Biden is not the nominee,
(23:21):
but I think it's probably twenty five or thirty percent
right now.
Speaker 1 (23:24):
It's interesting that you said that about Michelle because I
was doing my podcast the night after Michelle Obama was
talking with Billy Jing King about equal pay, and she
did this speech the US open in prime time And
I said the next day, not thinking about the connection
you're talking about here, I said it like it was
almost like a coming out political speech. It was the
first time I saw Michelle Obama in a political way.
(23:44):
It wasn't a first lady's speech. It was a political
ass speech. It was her in her own words, not
under my husband. First lady ask and if you think
about that now, with what you just said, that's scary
as hell.
Speaker 2 (23:56):
And by the way, this is not a new thought
for Democrats. Had Bill Clinton who served two terms, and
then obviously Hillary was presumed to be the heir apparent,
and so the dynamic from Barack to Michelle. Listen, the
Democrats are dynastic. The Democrats are top down. The Democrats
are command and control. And it's because Michelle has a
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claim to already being at a higher level in the
Democrat pecking order than any of the other contenders. It's
the only solution for Democrat power brokers that doesn't cause
a civil war.
Speaker 1 (24:35):
Yeah, and it comes with the best political campaigner in
the Democratic Party, her husband.
Speaker 2 (24:41):
Plus, look, Michelle spent eight years as first lady. First
lady is a position that by design keeps you out
of the political fray. And so Michelle Obama has really
high positives and relatively low negatives. Now she starts getting
into policy, I think she is further left than Barack.
(25:01):
I think she is further left than Joe Biden. I
think as a president she would be disastrous. But the
American people think not only of her because she's first Lady.
The role of first lady insulates someone. And if she
parachutes in in August with big positives and relatively low negatives,
and she can also say, hey, all the things Joe
(25:22):
Biden screwed up on that wasn't me. Yeah, that is
really potent politically. If I were a Democrat, I'd be
excited about that.
Speaker 1 (25:32):
There's also something else to happened this week with a
Democratic primary that was shocking to me. You've had people
that made threats against you, You've run for president of
United States of America. I've experienced having people threatened against
me as well. It's not a good feeling. You look
at the Kennedy family and the fact that they've had
assassinations and targeting, and RFK has made it clear he
(25:56):
wants protection. There was something shocking that had this week
with a man that was dressed liked law enforcement. Thank goodness,
they saw him, they figured it out. There were certain
things he was wearing in his outfit, the way where
his gun was being held on his person that didn't
fit law enforcement, and he was arrested. But you were
upset about this, I think as you should be, because
(26:18):
why have they still not decided to protect RFK and
what's taking them so long, especially when see things like
this happened.
Speaker 2 (26:25):
Yeah, this was a really disturbing security incident. You had
someone show up at an event for RFK Junior. He
had two firearms and two shoulder holsters that he was wearing.
He was dressed as law enforcement, and it was fraudulent.
He was dressed with a lanyard that indicated he was
a US marshal. He was trying to camouflage. He told
people he was part of rfk's security detail. Thankfully, the
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private security that RFK hired recognized that he wasn't and
they detained and arrested him. But someone coming in with
two loaded firearms and extra magazines impersonating law enforcement is
on its face, exceptionally dangerous. Now, RFK put out the
following statement, We're gonna put it up on the screen.
Here's what RFK said. I'm very grateful that alert and
(27:12):
fast acting protectors from Gavin de Becker and associates his
private security firm spotted and detained an armed man who
attempted to approach me at my Hispanic Heritage speech at
the Wilshire Ebel Theatre in Los Angeles tonight. The man,
wearing two shoulder hosters with loaded pistols and spare ammunition magazines,
was carrying a US Marshal badge on a lanyard and
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at belt clip federal ID. He identified himself as a
member of my security detail. Armed GDBA team members moved
quickly to isolate and detain the man until LAPD arrived
to make the arrest. I'm also grateful to LAPD for
its rapid response. And then this is in bold in
his tweet. I'm still entertaining a hope that President Biden
(27:57):
will allow me Secret Service protection, the first presidential candidate
history to whom the White House has denied a request
for protection.
Speaker 1 (28:06):
Now, can you explain the politics of that real quick.
So people don't understand how this works.
Speaker 3 (28:10):
Yeah, let me do that in the way I'm going
to do that.
Speaker 2 (28:11):
I want to put up I retweeted this, and I
retweeted it with my own comment. So let's put up
what I tweeted. I retweeted RFK statement, and here's what
I said. This isn't a left or right issue. The
Biden administration should give Robert Kennedy Junior a security detail now.
(28:34):
Given his tragic family history. Both his father and uncle
were horrifically assassinated and this latest serious security incident, Biden
shouldn't mess around. Under law, quote, major candidates are entitled
(28:56):
a secret service protection. Is Mayorcus's deceivision not to grant
protection political Surely this administration wouldn't put a man's life
at risk Rather than concede that RFK Junior is a
major candidate. The Trump DHS gave Biden protection in March
(29:20):
of twenty twenty after a security incident. MAJORCA should follow
that precedent and expeditiously approve protection for RFK Junior. Now,
the way it works under law is that a candidate
for president is entitled to secret Service protection if they
are a quote major candidate, and being a major candidate,
(29:43):
there are a series of criteria that are used to
ascertain major candidate, including poll numbers. It is the Secretary
of the Department of Homeland Security that makes that determination.
They do so in consultation with a bipartisan advisory committee
that concludes both with Republicans and Democrats at the easy level,
the major party nominees both are entitled to coverage, and
(30:06):
they both get it, but historically they get it earlier
than becoming the nominees. If you look at twenty sixteen,
so I've got some real and personal experience with dealing
with this. In twenty sixteen, in the Republican presidential primary,
Donald Trump was given Secret Service protection relatively early on,
(30:27):
and Ben Carson was given Secret Service protection relatively early on. Now,
Ben Carson did not win a single state. Ben Carson
was given Secret Service protection because the level of death
threats that were directed at him was deemed sufficient that
it merited Secret Service protection. I don't know exactly how
(30:48):
many death threats were talking about, but the Department of
Homeland Security made the determination given this threat level, given
the risk that some lunatic would try to kill an
after Kann American Republican running for president, We're going to
provide Secret Service protection now. As the primary went on,
(31:09):
I won twelve states. For months, the race was essentially
a two man race between me and Donald Trump. No
other Republican other than Trump and I won more than
a single state. So John Kasik won Ohio, Marco Rubio
won Minnesota, and Trump and I won the other forty
eight states. And at the time that I dropped out,
(31:31):
I had won twelve and he had won something like
twenty two to twenty three states, so he'd won about
twice as many states.
Speaker 3 (31:37):
That's when I dropped out.
Speaker 2 (31:39):
So for months earlier, I easily met the standard for
a major candidate, and had I requested Secret Service protection,
I almost certainly would have received it, because under any
objective measure, I met it. In twenty sixteen, I made
the decision not to ask for it. We talked about
it in our campaign because when Secret Service comes into
(32:02):
the campaign, they slow everything down. They come in, they
take over all the security, They set up magnetometers, they
set up metal detectors in the front of the events.
That means people coming to your events often I'll have
to wait one two three hours in line.
Speaker 3 (32:18):
It slows the operation down.
Speaker 2 (32:20):
Once you bring Secret Service in, typically a candidate will
do maybe two or three events a day because it
just slows the entire operation down. In twenty sixteen, we
were running fast and hard. I was doing in days,
six seven, eight, nine events a day.
Speaker 3 (32:37):
I mean, we were going fast.
Speaker 2 (32:40):
And I didn't want pump the brakes to pump the brakes,
I didn't want to slow it down. So we took
security very seriously. So I hired private security, and we
had significant private security. But I would do something at
the end of most events. I'd jump off the front
of the stage and I'd plow into the crowd and
I'd be hugging people, I'd be taking pictures, I'd be
talk to kids. I remember, Secret Service would never let
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you do that.
Speaker 3 (33:03):
They would.
Speaker 1 (33:05):
You stay on the other side.
Speaker 2 (33:07):
And so we made the decision that we wanted to
be faster and more nimble, and that bringing Secret Service
in would slow that down. And we also made the
decision that we had a pretty significant investment in security,
and that we thought we could use private security to
ensure safety while at the same time maintaining speed. In
(33:28):
this instance, you've got RFK Junior Number one, You've got
his unique personal story. His father was murdered while running
for president of the United States, Bobby Kennedy murdered as
a candidate for the Democratic nominee for president, and before that,
his uncle John F. Kennedy was murdered while being President of.
Speaker 3 (33:53):
The United States. Given that history and.
Speaker 2 (33:56):
Given people are just not look at this guy, Coppy
Katz and create look, I think it is a no
brainer that if RFK Junior wants Secret Service protection given
his circumstances, he deserves it. And the reason I believe
the Biden administration hasn't granted it is because if they did,
(34:16):
under it genmizes him, they would have to say he's
a major candidate. And the approach of the Biden White
House is RFK who we never heard of him? Nope, Nope,
nobody running, nobody in the Democrat primary doesn't exist.
Speaker 3 (34:28):
This is a corrodation.
Speaker 2 (34:29):
Joe's down in the basement, and I think it is
purely political. And I ask everyone listening to this, imagine
your reaction if you turned on the TV tomorrow and
saw that RFK Junior, like his father, was murdered while
being a candidate for the Democrat nomination for president.
Speaker 3 (34:51):
Imagine the horror.
Speaker 2 (34:54):
How do you justify the Biden administration saying nope, politics
matters more to us, So good luck you. Hope nothing happens.
This should not be Look, I'm not voting for our
FK junior.
Speaker 3 (35:05):
Yeah, but you should.
Speaker 1 (35:06):
If you're running for president, you should be safe while doing.
Speaker 2 (35:09):
This is the right thing to do. And whether you're
a Democrat or a Republican, this ought to be an
easy choice. And the Biden Whitehouse ought to get their
political heads out of their rear ends and do the
right thing. Listen, they feel confident they can beat OURFK junior,
You're fine. If they're confident, then do the right thing
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and ensure that he's got Secret Service protection so we
don't have a national tragedy on her hands.
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one actually makes me really angry. It's judges getting involved
in a way that I think is pretty clear it
to election interference. We've seen court dates that have come
out now for Donald Trump, with all these different indictments
in different states, that could be like the days before
Super Tuesday, when any normal candate would be on the
campaign trail. You just mentioned why you guys didn't do
(37:36):
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fast and right to be campaigning. We're seeing two things
now that seem to be marking the calendar. One, you
could throw this guy into courtroom during dates when he
descerately needs to be out campaigning, taking away his ability
to have a fair election against Joe Biden or whoever
it may be. And two, now you may take away
(37:58):
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it for the Republican party's voice to talk about the
accusations against him from these the leftists and these people,
these DA's are trying to lock him up by putting
a gag order on what he can say. This seems
un American, it seems Banana Republic. Ask. I think it's
(38:19):
disgusting political poy here. Yet that's what we're really talking
about now, is that real possibility?
Speaker 3 (38:24):
Look, you're exactly right.
Speaker 2 (38:25):
We have talked at length on this podcast about how
the multiple indictments against Donald Trump are election interference. Democrats
have convinced themselves that Donald Trump is Adolf Hitler, and
because they believe he's Hitler, anything, anything, anything is justified
to stop him. The ends justify the means, and they're
willing to corrupt the legal process to turn the Department
(38:48):
of Justice into a political weapon. They're willing to do
everything they can to stop the voters from daring to
make a decision to vote in the way these angry
partisan Democrats don't want the voters to vote. We've gone
over two hundred years of our nation's history. We've never
indicted a president or a former president, or a major
candidate for president. In the last six months, Democrats have
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done so four separate times. The US Department of Justice
under Biden is the most partisan and political we've ever seen.
And Jack Smith, the special prosecutor, we've talked at length.
He is a partisan. He has a history of abusing power,
including this is not the first presidential candidate or potential
presidential candidate he's gone after he went after Bob McDonald,
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the governor of Virginia, was considered a credible presidential candidate.
Jack Smith indicted him, destroyed his political career, destroyed his life,
and then on appeal, the Supreme Court unanimously throughout the
conviction as not being consistent with law. But he'd already
done its job, which here out he took him out.
In this instance, the case in the District of Columbia
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is profoundly dangerous. It's profoundly dangerous because number one, the
jury pool in the District Columbia is over ninety percent
about ninety four percent Democrat. So you're going to get
a jury that in all likelihood hates Donald Trump and
believes he's Adolf Hitler. Now, if you believe someone's ad
Off Hitler, he's a victim. That's not a hard guilty
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for whatever the crime is Yeah, it's just you hate
if it's Adolf Hitler. Yes, we also have a district
judge who has demonstrated and earned a reputation as being
one of the furthest left Democrat district judges on the
federal bench in d C. Who is presiding this trial
is designed to directly interfere with the election. But Jacksmith
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said this is not enough, and so he filed a motion,
a motion for a gag order. So he's gone to
this left wing district judge and he's asked for a
gag order. He says, defendant has repeatedly and widely disseminated
public statements attacking the citizens of the district Columbia. That's
by daring to point out that ninety four percent of
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DC voters vote Democrat, and that's going to be the
jury pool the court. That's by pointing out that the
judge has a record of being one of the most
left wing Democrats on the entire federal bench.
Speaker 3 (41:11):
Prosecutors.
Speaker 2 (41:12):
That's by pointing out that jack Smith is a hard
core partisan Democrat, has already abused his power repeatedly and
prospective witnesses. The government therefore requests that the court quote
enter a narrowly tailored order pursue into local criminal Rule
fifty seven C that restricts certain prejudicial extra judicial statements,
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And in particular, what they ask for the government seeks
this is a quote A narrow, well defined restriction that
is targeted at extra judicial statements that present a serious
and substantial danger of materially prejudicing the case. The government's
proposed order specifies that such statements would include A statements
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regarding the identity, testimony, or credibility of prospective witnesses, and
b statements about any party witness, attorney, court personnel, or
potential jurors that are disparaging and inflamma territory or intimidating.
Now let's be clear who do they mean by potential witnesses.
They mean people like Bill Barr yep, and they mean
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people like Mike Pence. So Mike Pence is literally running
against Donald Trump right now for the Republican nomination for president.
And you have the Biden Department of Justice asking a
federal judge issue an order that Donald Trump cannot say
a critical word of Mike Pence about one of his
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opponents in the primary, Like, holy crap, if this doesn't
piss you off, You're not paying attention. I mean, it
is truly breathtaking. You want to understand why this is
election interference? Jay believes the federal court can order one
political candidate you're not allowed to criticize your opponent. Just
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don't say a word. Don't say a word at all,
despite the fact that you're facing a political persecution designed
to interfere with the election, You're not.
Speaker 3 (43:16):
Allowed to say it.
Speaker 2 (43:17):
And if you do, by the way, look, a gag
order is typically enforced by contempt and by jail. So
what the Biden doj is proposing is if Donald Trump
says a negative word about Mike Pence, that the US
Department of Justice will show up and arrest him and
put him in jail for saying a negative word about
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one of his opponents running for president.
Speaker 1 (43:39):
And by the way, they would do that. Let's be clear,
they would love to arrest him again.
Speaker 2 (43:43):
That's what they want, and to keep him in jail.
This is election interference. It is wildly unconstitutional. It is
a direct violation of the First Amendment. It is also
a direct violation of the right to vote of our
democratic process in this country. Now, the Democrat talking heads
will say, look, sometimes you have gag orders. If you're
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going against the mafia, bosh, you're going up against al Capone.
Courts will enter orders saying, Okay, you can't intimidate witnesses,
you can't say things that will prejudice the jury. You're right,
in an ordinary criminal trial. Those things can happen. In
an ordinary criminal trial. The defendant is not a leading
candidate for president of the United States actively running for
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president of the United States. And my guess, I don't
think the district court will grant this. I don't know that.
I don't know this judge at all. I've never met her.
Her record demonstrates she's left wing. But I think if
the district court granted this order, it would be exceptionally foolish.
Why because the order would be appealed and it would
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be overturned on appeal. I do not believe there's any
way the Supreme Court of the United States would allow
a leading candidate for president to be enjoined. To be
ordered from a court, you are not allowed to criticize
your political opponents. I mean, if you can envision, imagine debate,
let's we have a subsequent Republican debate. Trump shows up
and Mike Pence blasts him, and Trump turns and says,
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I'm sorry, I'm prevented by court order from.
Speaker 1 (45:17):
Respond, yeah, from defending myself.
Speaker 2 (45:20):
That is not free speech, that is not democracy, that
is not how our system operates.
Speaker 1 (45:26):
And that's election interference.
Speaker 2 (45:29):
Exactly, perfect example of what capsulates. And by the way,
that's what they want, actually what they want. Look, they
know in that circumstance, Donald Trump could not restrain himself, sure,
and then they would arrest him.
Speaker 3 (45:41):
And then they would arrest him.
Speaker 2 (45:42):
I mean, I mean, you can almost envision the jack
booted thugs sitting by the side of the debate and
as Trump blasts his opponents, and he'll blast all his
opponents because that's what he does. You can almost envision
them walking out in the middle of the debate and saying, sir,
you're under arrest. If that is not election interference, holy cow,
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it really shows just how extreme the Democrats have gotten.
This is horrific. By the way, let's be clear, I
would be every bit as opposed to an order preventing
Joe Biden from criticizing his opponents from criticizing RFK Junior
from criticizing Donald Trump. Not to be clear, Joe Biden
couldn't get up in the morning and speak without criticizing
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Donald Trump. He says, good morning. Trump is the devil.
That's just how he addresses it. And he also demonizes
every other Republican because he's in his mental and feeblement,
he's also become an even more vicious partisan. But I
would be equally and animately opposed to any court trying
to prevent Joe Biden from attacking me or Trump or
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anybody else, because that's what free speech and elections are
all about. But today's Democrats, they don't believe in democracy,
which is why these indictments are happening. They want to
stop the voters from voting in a way they don't like.
And they don't believe in free speech, which is why
they want to muzzle their leading opponent for president. It
is it's a brave new world.
Speaker 3 (47:07):
We're living here.
Speaker 1 (47:07):
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