September 4, 2023 • 49 mins
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Speaker 2 (01:50):
Doc Phil Part two, Nice to have you with us
today as well as we're talking about America, American families
and everything that's going on this country. Plus we're going
to get into a very important issue and that is
the issue of COVID and what impact it had on
the families in this country.
Speaker 3 (02:06):
Well, and I've got to say this has been fascinating.
We've covered a lot of topics that Verdict typically doesn't
get into. We've we've covered being a parent, being a spouse,
we've covered the mental health challenges facing our kids, and
we've talked about the desperate, neat need for truth. And
I will say, if you didn't listen to part one,
(02:27):
go back and listen to part one, because you're not
gonna want to miss the discussion from doctor Phil unplugged
in a way you may you may not have seen
him before, but saying things that need to be said
and demonstrating an enormous amount of courage.
Speaker 4 (02:42):
Well, I'm like a bad rash. You can't get rid
of me.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
Work ethic in society today. As parents, you want to
raise your kids to love the Lord, you want to
raise your kids to have manners. But we're being undermind.
Parents are being in her mind with work ethic.
Speaker 4 (02:58):
We're a double income society, and you have both parents
working so much that they're just really burning the candle
at both ends, and some of those fundamentals really aren't
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being focused on. And you say, how do we how
do we get the work ethic Sentater and I were
talking earlier. You and I are so aligned in focus
because I said, meritocracy is so important to me if
we lose that, and you know right now, we've got
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a government that wants to give everything to everybody for free,
and we're teaching people that you don't have to work
hard for what you want, and the statistics are staggering.
If people spend month after month after month not full
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time working, they're off work, like during the pandemic, the
chance of them coming back. Everybody thought when the pandemic
was over, it was going to look like that scene
in the movie Grease at the end of the school
year where those doors flung open and it was a
carnival and everybody comes running out. And it wasn't that
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way at all. People were intimidated. Things they used to
take for granted were now intimidating. And when you don't
hold people to a standard, then I've spent a lot
of time in rehab. And I'm not talking about drug rehab.
I'm talking about rehabilitating people with brain injuries and spinal
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cord injuries. And if it takes someone that has had
that kind of injury and they need to turn the
light on and it takes them three minutes to get
over there to do it, or you could walk over
and do it for them, you need to require them
to do one hundred percent of what they're able to
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do or they'll never get to the next level. And
so you ask me, how do we get them to
do that by requiring them to do everything they can
do every chance we get to do it. And right now,
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almost a third of fifth and eighth graders can't read
at the most fundamental level. They can't read a sentence,
And the question is how did they get into fifth grade?
How did they get in the eighth grade? Nineteen percent
of high school graduates can't read. They cannot read. How
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do you graduate high school if you can't read in
the first, second, and third grade. You learned to read
from the fourth grade on. You read to learn. So
if you don't learn to read in those first three grades,
you don't have that tool to learn the rest of
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your life. And if teachers are going to pass them
either way, then you're just setting them up to fail.
Speaker 5 (06:33):
It's utterly destructive. You know.
Speaker 3 (06:35):
One of the things you mentioned in that answer is
you talked about coming out of COVID, and I'd be
interested in your judgment on what was the damage that
was done from a mental health perspective from the shutdowns
we had across the country, and what was the damage
in particular to kids from tens of millions of kids
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across this country, their schools shut down for a year
or more.
Speaker 5 (07:02):
And what what do you see as the consequences of.
Speaker 4 (07:05):
Those policies When they shut down this country in the
schools at the beginning of COVID and said this is
going to be for a couple of weeks, I said,
I get it. When it turned into a month or
two months, I went public and said, what you're doing
is going to create more damage and more loss of
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life than the virus itself.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
So you saw it before a lot of people did well.
Speaker 4 (07:36):
I actually said it and got called a complete idiot.
Speaker 5 (07:45):
I've never had that happen to me neither.
Speaker 4 (07:48):
I got called a complete I got attacked from every
possible way you can. And I said, I stand by
what I say, and I said it. I think I've
got fifteen clips of different times that I said shutting
this country down and taking our kids out of school
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for a prolonged period of time, and the epidemiological pediatricians
estimate that it will cost somewhere around fifteen million years
of life lost for these kids. And they figure that
because you got roughly fifty million kids in public school
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plus the private schools, and because of what they lost,
they will never close that gap, and with lesser educational achievement,
they will get lesser jobs, lesser jobs or usually higher
risk jobs because they're blue collar and they're working with
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machinery and construction and things where they get injured. They
have poor health covery, which means they get slower diagnosis
and lesser care, and so it obtains with years of
life shaved off the end of their lives. And what
gets me is they did this. The same agencies that
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advocated for this are the same agencies that had the
records that said, we have the highest levels of anxiety, depression,
and loneliness among our children than we've had since records
were being kept. So let's shut down the schools which
we know are essential to their development. It's like throwing
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gas on a fire. And that doesn't even take into
account that mandated reporters are in these schools who report
child abuse and molestation, and referrals to the Department of
Child and Family Services dropped in some areas fifty to
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sixty percent. And trust me, abuse molestation did not drop
fifty to sixty percent. We simply rendered those children alone
with their abusers for two years without eyes on them
to report it. To people that could help them. We
simply abandoned them to their abusers. And so many of
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these children relied on those schools for at least one,
if not two, meals per day. We took that away.
And some say, well, but they delivered those meals. Some
got them delivered, some didn't. So we created a huge
educational gap. We abandoned the abused and molested children to
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their abusers and molesters. And nobody has done anything to
close the gap utterly other than that, no problem, you know.
Speaker 3 (11:03):
I'll actually say today is an interesting milestone.
Speaker 5 (11:06):
I tweeted about it earlier. Today.
Speaker 3 (11:09):
Today is the sixty sixth anniversary of the day that
my father came to the United States of America. So
sixty six years ago in nineteen fifty seven, my dad
landed in America and he was fleeing Cuba, and he'd
been in prison in Cuba. He'd been tortured in Cuba,
and he came here with nothing. He came here with
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one hundred dollars in his underwear, and he washed dishes.
He made fifty cents an hour, and America gave him freedom,
gave him security, gave him hope, gave him the ability
to work and excel and achieve and prosper. And there
is no nation in the history of the world like America.
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And that is I look on too many college campuses.
The faculties don't believe it. You and I were talking
earlier today about your conversation with college kids who, when
it comes to looters in California, say that the looters
have a right to take what they want.
Speaker 4 (12:08):
The shoplifters, I've had them city in my studio audience,
say they're taking what's rightfully theirs because they're not being
paid a living wage. And look, I get it. But
if you're sitting home in a beanbag eating Cheetos while
somebody else is working their butt off for fifteen years
to get consequential knowledge that people are willing to pay for,
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you don't get the same outcome. You have to work
for what you want. That's what I said. When you
choose the behavior, you choose the consequences. And do we
need to give everybody better chances and better choices. Yes,
we need to work on that, there's no doubt about that.
But you cannot tell everybody that they're going to get
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the same outcome. And we've got college professors that are
in there supposedly teaching art that are getting into all
of this. And if I had a child in college
right now that we're getting taught that, I would be
real upset about that, because let me tell you, where
are those professors going to be five years later, when
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that young man is trying to buy braces for his
son or daughter and pay the rent. I'll tell you
where they're going to be. They're going to be gonzo.
You're gonna be able to find them with both hands
in a flashlight because they're going to be gone. They're
going to be down the road somewhere. And then here's
this person that got this college education and wasn't taught
to cope with the real world, which is a shark tank.
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You get out there in the real world where somebody's
looking for somebody to produce, and here was somebody taught no,
it's the employer's job to get along with them instead
of the other way around. We did shows these people
that were doing quiet quitting where they just said, well
you just do the bare minimum. Well see where that
gets you. This is not what we need to be
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talking about in America right now.
Speaker 5 (14:05):
How do we change it?
Speaker 4 (14:06):
We change it by people hearing what's going on, Hearing
that these algorithms are programmed to attack our children, hearing
what's going on on the college campuses, hearing that kids
are getting their feelings hurt and they're medicalizing it. There
have been more professors suspended, disciplined, or dismissed in the
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last twenty or thirty years since the McCarthy era, because
now they're saying, no, this injured me. You 't heart
my feelings. It injured me. And so now they say, well,
we have to react to that, and so they're complaining
about it, and professors are getting dismissed because they're asking
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students to take positions that's not comfortable for them.
Speaker 5 (15:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (15:04):
You know, in law school you had to take the defense.
Now you plain of both sides. And so they put
trigger warnings on everything. Trigger warnings are a myth. They
don't trigger warnings create the anxiety they're intended to avoid.
The research is clear on that, But yet there are
trigger something like sixty seventy percent of the universities use
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trigger warnings.
Speaker 3 (15:26):
Look, and in fact, I'd go even further and say
the purpose of education is to trigger you. The purpose
of education is have you encounter uncomfortable views on comfortable.
Speaker 5 (15:40):
Positions, challenge your assumptions.
Speaker 3 (15:42):
For a number of years, I used to teach at
University of Texas Law School, and I taught a class
as an adjunct professor on Supreme Court litigation.
Speaker 5 (15:51):
And I would have my students.
Speaker 3 (15:53):
I would pick seven of the biggest cases before the
Supreme Court that term, and they were real cases, and
I would have the students the cases and argue the cases,
and the students, every student would get to argue two cases,
and the remainder of the cases, they would sit as
Supreme Court justices and they would ask the questions and
we'd do it exactly like the real argument, same time period.
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And it was a two hour seminar once a week,
and so the first hour would be the argument. The
second hour, the nine justices would retire to conference and
they would discuss the case. And you were required to
discuss the case in the persona of your justice. So
you might be Clarence Thomas, you might be Ruth Bader Ginsburg,
and you were required to discuss the case and decide
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the case consistent with the jurisprudence of the justice that
you'd been assigned, and then each student was required to
write an opinion. And I got to tell you, I
think some of the best teaching moments is I would
assign the cases, and I would assign them randomly. I'd
actually just use letters and randomly assign the cases, and
I'd signed the sides. And we had a number of
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students who ended up being assigned positions they hated. I
remember one student who did very well in the class
was a West Point graduate had been an Army ranger
and he was assigned to represent a terrorist at GITMO,
challenging his detention. He didn't like that at all, but
he did a terrific job. I remember another student, a
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very liberal woman, was assigned to argue the case of
pro life protesters, which was a view she really didn't like.
And I thought teaching the class, those were more valuable
that if I had switched their positions and let them
argue the position they agreed with, they would have learned
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less from it. And now you have universities that that
that seem to be behaving saying our job is to
prevent you from encountering anything you disagree with, and surround
you only.
Speaker 5 (17:55):
That triggers you.
Speaker 2 (17:56):
That triggers you, triggers you, makes you feel uncomfortable.
Speaker 3 (17:59):
And that their job is to enforce an orthodoxy. You
must agree with what we're saying.
Speaker 4 (18:04):
Yeah, well, that's why they're booing and not letting speakers
that are invited to universities speak. I call it the
heckler's veto ye, the heckler's veto does.
Speaker 5 (18:19):
That's the phrase from court used.
Speaker 4 (18:20):
And you can't you can't learn if you're just preaching
to the choir all the time, Which is why I say,
I want both sides to come on and let people
here and make up their own mind. And we so
you said, what do we do about this? We've got
to awaken the masses to say, look, you've got to uh,
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you've got to speak up about this. You've got to
find your voice and talk about this. You know, I
said earlier. The reason that these small groups of activists,
this tyranny of the fringe, is so efficient, is because
they identify an enemy and go after that enemy. And
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the silent majority doesn't have an enemy like that. They
don't have a rally to attend because what they're trying
to do is raise their family with love and care
and concern and nurture them to get to the next
level of life. That's what we're supposed to do as parents,
is prepare our children for the next level of life.
Speaker 2 (19:24):
I want to ask you a question. You've said it twice,
maybe three times a night, the fear you have of
these algorithms they're targeting kids. Parents have so much pure
pressure now and kids have gotten really good at saying, well,
so and so has it. Well they've got a smartphone. Well,
they're online. They're on TikTok, they're on Instagram, they're on Twitter,
they're on Facebook. What advice do you have to parents
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about the appropriate age to give them a tool that
can also destroy their life, which is a cell phone
and allow them on social media.
Speaker 3 (19:53):
Forty five Yeah, I think it's a great number.
Speaker 5 (19:57):
My three boys are getting flip phones.
Speaker 3 (19:59):
Maybe just wait till all their classmates have them. It's
easy to say at the ages your kids are, wait
till they get in junior high in high school and
they're the only kid and they're facing complete ostracization because
all of the discussion of their classmates is through these
evil black hole devices we put in our kids' hands.
Speaker 4 (20:22):
Here's the thing. There are arguments on both sides. It's
good for the child to have a device where you
can reach them at any time, you can track them
at any time, you can put all of these parental
controls on there. They're so far ahead of us they
can laugh at us. They have workarounds, and if you
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don't give them the devices, they're going to be on
their friends' devices. The better thing you.
Speaker 3 (20:53):
I got to tell you a story. So our daughter
got grounded. We took our phone away. She was grounded
for a month. It's pretty serious grounding. And we'd taken
her phone away. A couple of weeks go by, and
then Heidi gets an email from the phone company that's
kind of a curious email, and we discovered that before
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she handed her phone over, she had gone into the
phone and taken out the SIM card, of course, and
she got a burn heer phone from a friend and
put it in the phone. And what was amazing is
she said, she said, well, you said you were taking
my phone away. You didn't say you were taking my
SIM card away. And it was you know, she's got
a fabulous mind, and it was a great argument. But
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you're right, our kids can run circles around us on technology.
Speaker 4 (21:39):
Yea, I say this. I always tell people that you
should talk to your children about things that don't matter.
And they said, well, what do you mean by that?
And you watch these medical shows on TV? And what's
one of the first things I say when you roll
somebody into the er? They say, start an IV with
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ringers lactate. Does anybody ever know what that is?
Speaker 5 (22:05):
I have no idea what it is.
Speaker 4 (22:06):
Well, it's water and it's saline. It's an inert substance.
And why do they do it. They're getting a vein open,
so when they figure out what they do need, the
vein is open and all they have to do is
plug something into it. That's why I say talk to
kids about things that don't matter, because when it comes
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time to talk about something that does matter, you got
that vein open. And if you're talking to them about
something that really matters, and it's the first time you've
ever tried to have a conversation with them, it's going
to feel really awkward. But if you've been talking to
them about their video game or shooting baskets with them,
about getting a dog, about who they're dating, about this,
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about that, just about regular things. But there's a dialogue
that's going on, and then it comes time where you
have to talk to them about something that really matters.
It's not like you're on your first date. You know,
you've got this dialogue going, and when you roll into
something it really matters, it's open, it doesn't feel so awkward.
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And when you start talking about the internet and the phone.
Every time I do a show about these predators or
these algorithms and how a significant percentage of young girls
get into Instagram or whatever, and so they start getting depressed.
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I take all of that and send it to my
granddaughter and say, you know, read this, let's talk about this,
and she becomes aware of it and goes, well, wow,
I don't know. And you know, just before we walked
in here, I was on the cameras and she's over
having a party, a swim party with all the adults there.
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She's not sitting at home. And that's what's happening right
now with young people. They're watching people live their lives
instead of living their own lives. And the lives they're
watching being lived are fantasies.
Speaker 5 (24:11):
They're not.
Speaker 4 (24:13):
It's it's not even the good, it's fictional good. I've
had influencers on the show who say they get all
dressed up and say, yeah, they're going to this big event,
this big party. They're going to the NBA All Star Game,
They're going to this, going that, And as soon as
they do the shoot, they turn it off, put their
sweats on and go sit down and watch TV or
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sit down watching whatever. They don't. They're not that's not
their real lives. And people compare themselves to these fictional
lives and they get depressed because they say, I'm a loser.
I'm not doing any of that stuff. I'm not going
to there. There's a there. This is an amazing thing.
I actually had them on. There is a false fuselize
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to a private jet. It's in La Now, it was
in San Francisco. It's just in a room. It's a
seat with a window. They rent by fifteen minutes for
influencers to come on. They'll come there with like ten
changes of clothes, like summer, Christmas, all this stuff. They
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sit down and do all these photo shoots so they
can post them throughout the year. Like they're off to Cabo,
you know, they're off to Asping for skiing, They're off
to the They don't go anywhere they're going and sitting
in a box in a warehouse.
Speaker 5 (25:33):
And pay them to do it. That's hysterical.
Speaker 4 (25:35):
They used to do it with a toilet seat that
looked like it was a window. Now they actually have
one they go sit in. It's just it's just.
Speaker 5 (25:44):
In a room. Well, you know, capitalism is incredible, Oh
isn't it?
Speaker 4 (25:47):
Though?
Speaker 3 (25:48):
All right, so let me ask you. You're in Hollywood.
Hollywood at least, I think they're nuts.
Speaker 4 (25:53):
I'm a Texas resident. I know you are, so don't
be saying I'm in Hollywood.
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Speaker 3 (27:44):
Yeah, you are a resident of the great state of Texas.
Speaker 5 (27:47):
You're in Dallas.
Speaker 3 (27:49):
We are proud you're a Texan. But how have you
not been canceled? I mean, you've dared say things you're
not supposed to say, and yet you work in Hollywood
and you're still standing. How what has the reaction been
to you, what has the pushback been to you?
Speaker 5 (28:06):
And how have you survived?
Speaker 4 (28:07):
I think the truth is I've been really consistent in
owning the debate. Lane. I give both sides an opportunity
to talk about their position and let people make up
their own minds. And I've now seen that there's too
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much traction being gained and somebody needs to stand up
and give this a voice. And like I said in
the beginning, I'll sit around and say, you know, the media,
this the media that, the media, this the media that.
And Robin said to me, I guess it's about a
year and a half ago. We were sitting in the kitchen.
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She said, you know you are the media. Well you're
bitching about the media. You are the media. Why aren't
you doing something about it? And as usual, she was right.
Speaker 2 (29:12):
Would we ever see and it seems that you're in
I say, this is a sincere compliment. The fourth quarter
of your career, and it seems that you're now thinking
about where we are as a country, your legacy. Would
we ever see doctor Phil's name on a ballot? Is
that something that you've ever even thought of?
Speaker 4 (29:29):
No, I'll tell you why. I think I can have
more of an impact doing what I'm doing the way
I'm doing it now than if I went into politics.
First off, I don't think I know enough about it,
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And I think you got to know where your strengths
are and your weaknesses are. I mean Senator Cruz here,
constitutional law expert. He's immersed himself in this. I spend
twenty years and not be where he was on day one.
I get that he is really good at what he does.
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And I'm in my lane and he's in his lane.
I would rather work with him in his lane from
my lane than try to get in his lane.
Speaker 3 (30:23):
So let me ask you a different question. You may
remember the movie Mel Gibson was in What Women Want.
A very substantial percentage of your viewers are women across
America who tune into you and listen and are very
interested in what you have to say. So I guess
my question would be the title of the movie what
a women Want? What resonates and height? He's laughing in
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the audience. I'm seeking counseling. See, my dear, I'm actually
getting advice.
Speaker 5 (30:54):
The man's really working on you.
Speaker 4 (30:56):
You're asking me what women does? Somebody write stupid on
my forehead? Well, Robin and I just celebrated our forty
seventh anniversary last week.
Speaker 5 (31:09):
Congratulations.
Speaker 4 (31:10):
Yeah, we've been together fifty years, married forty seven. And
I've learned this. When she says what it does not
mean she did not hear what I said. It means
she's given me a chance to change what I said.
Speaker 2 (31:33):
If you're taking notes in the audience or listening to
this show, this is when you write that down.
Speaker 4 (31:38):
Yes, that is something to write down. So what I
know about what women want? I have a clue. I
know this. It is changing. And I did a show
(32:00):
with women talking about how their role is changing in
this day and time, and they were very outspoken about this.
And I think, you know, I think women are people,
and I think they want to be hurt. I think
(32:20):
they want to be treated with dignity and respect. I
think they want to have an opportunity to be acknowledged
for the contributions they make and the things that they do,
and I think it is changing. But like I said,
(32:40):
this country is not perfect and we're making progress, but
it needs to change.
Speaker 3 (32:46):
So let me ask a follow up to that. This podcast,
we talk about politics a lot and policy a lot.
If you look at politics right now in elections nationally,
Republicans are typically winning married men, single men, and married women.
(33:08):
But right now in elections, Democrats are winning single women
by huge margins.
Speaker 4 (33:16):
You know, I think the difference, one of the differences
I see between the messaging between Democrats and Republicans is
I think Democrats do a better job of messaging about
the feeling parts of the process than Republicans do.
Speaker 5 (33:35):
Ye. Unquestionably, I think.
Speaker 4 (33:37):
Republicans do a real good job about messaging objectives and
bottom lines and quantifying those objectives in setting measurable outcomes.
And that's really important.
Speaker 3 (33:56):
And one of the things that's interesting is that get
being married is strongly correlated with more conservative voting patterns,
and being single is inversely correlated. Now, some of that
may just be a factor of age that young people. Historically,
(34:17):
Winston Churchill famously said, if you're twenty and not a liberal,
you have no heart. And if you're forty and not
a conservative, you.
Speaker 5 (34:24):
Have no brain.
Speaker 3 (34:26):
That's been true for a long time that young people
skew left, and as they get older, they tend to
get more conservative.
Speaker 5 (34:32):
So that's a factor.
Speaker 3 (34:33):
But do you see something in the divide between single
women and married women that would produce a really significant
delta in their voting patterns.
Speaker 4 (34:43):
Well? I do in that. As I've said, I think
family in America is under attack, and I think when
you become part of a family, your value shift dramatically
because now you're responsible for somebody other than yourself. You're
responsible for your home. And we've seen marriage on the decline.
(35:09):
People are getting married later in life now. Marriage is
down now compared to what it was a generation ago.
We've seen church membership drop below the fifty percent level
for the first time ever. And you know one reason
for that is I think we've seen our birth rate
(35:29):
drop now to one point six and it takes two
point one to sustain this society right now, and it's
dropped now to around one point six. And most people
when they have a child, they want to go to
church and have the child, you know, christened or baptized
(35:50):
or whatever. So if you're having fewer marriages and fewer children,
then you have fewer families that go to church to
start with and begin that tradition. I think that's all
tied together.
Speaker 3 (36:02):
And now do you have any theories on why fewer
people are getting married, having fewer children, fewer people are
going to church.
Speaker 4 (36:09):
I do. That's what it's part of this whole theory
I have about family being under attack. It's like in
two thousand and eight, two thousand and nine, it's like
I have this image of huge airplanes flying over the
United States and dropping smartphones on everybody. And that's when
people started watching people live their lives instead of living
(36:31):
their own. They started dating later, they started getting their
driver's license. Later, they have fewer friends, they stop socializing.
They started social development much later and much less efficiently
because they're living virtual lives instead of real lives. So
social development was really arrested at that time. And if
(36:53):
you if you go back and look at it, you
see in eighth nine that begins in to disrupt the
social development in America. It's an unintended consequence of carrying
a computer with a visual screen in your hand and
it's just gone up dramatically, and that's where the social
(37:15):
platform started launching, and it took the place of having
real friends. You say, oh, I've got you know, I've
got three hundred friends. No you don't. You have three
hundred followers. You don't know these people. I have these
people that come on and say they're engaged. We mean
(37:37):
you're engaged. You've never met this person. You've been messaging
back and forth for two years to somebody and it
turns out to be somebody in a Nigerian workroom. That's
you've been sending money for two years. That's not a relationship.
But people are confusing followers and clicks for real relationships,
(38:04):
and sometimes they fall in love with the fantasy, not
even really caring whether it's a real person. On the
other end, they fall in love with the fantasy. So
I think we've got to really encourage our kids to
get off the screens and get out on to the
playground and get out into the go to the school dances.
(38:28):
You ask these young people today how many friends they have,
you would be stunned at how few it is compared
to what it was. A generation will go.
Speaker 2 (38:36):
For everybody that's watching listening to this. You also have
a podcast as well, in a book coming out quickly
as we wrap up this, tell everybody where all they
can find all.
Speaker 4 (38:45):
This well, thank you for asking, and there are going
to be press releases and information coming out on that
very soon. And it's not a maybe thing. We're building
the broadcast center right now. I'm leaving here now, headed
to Texas, and we're designing so many of the things.
(39:07):
The news department is built, my studio is under construction
right now, and a huge broadcast center, and most of
my senior people from Doctor Phild one point zero are
packing up the truck and moving out of Beverly, coming
to Texas and buying homes in Fort Worth, Keller, Dallas.
(39:32):
Argyle all around and tell them I do, and I
tell them how great it was and how value, how
values were great, but very exciting, and in like I say,
in late January, first week of February, we're going to
be launching. It's when the book's going to be landing.
(39:53):
And I am more excited about this than I was
when we launched Doctor Phild to begin with. Very excited,
and I hope people listening are saying, you know.
Speaker 5 (40:04):
Does the network have an am yet.
Speaker 4 (40:07):
It does, but we haven't released it.
Speaker 5 (40:08):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (40:09):
One of the questions from the audience, Doctor Phil was
a question of what type of shows, what type of host,
what type of roles is it going to be, and
how's it going to be different than what you've done before.
Speaker 4 (40:18):
Well, I think that one of the things that I
bring to the process that is unique to my particular
brand or approach is that I'm a journalist and a
mental health professional at the same time. And what I've
(40:40):
always done is talk to real people with real problems
and try to come up with real solutions. And I
intend to stay with that format in the new show.
And what I mean by that is, even though we're
going to be talking about different things like social issues,
(41:02):
whether it's homelessness, or whether it's the problems we're having
with the internet, or it's this issue about the government
paying people not to work instead of two work, or
whatever the issue might be, I'm going to approach that
(41:23):
by telling those stories and dealing with those issues through
the eyes of the people that are impacted by them.
I think one of the best examples is, you know,
we talked about buying these counterfeit pills on the internet,
forty percent of which will kill you. Think about that.
(41:47):
You've got to really stop to wrap your head around
that four out of ten pills you buy, that you
can buy whether you're twelve or thirteen or fourteen, four
out of ten, ten of those will kill you. This
fentanyl is being manufactured in China, sent to the Sinaloa cartel.
(42:10):
In Mexico, they raided a pill factory just south of
the border near San Diego that was stamping out seventy
million pills a month. One lab. Seventy million pills a month.
Not all of them are coming here, but a lot
(42:30):
of them are coming to America. And when I talk
about that, I don't want to have a bunch of
talking head experts up there. I had four sets of
parents who had non drug addicted children that ordered pills
during finals of college to stay awake or to do this,
(42:53):
or to do that, and they found them dead the
next morning, and credit card receipts where they ordered one pill,
yep one pill from a social media platform and we're
dead the next morning. And I approach that by telling
this story through the eyes of the parents who went
(43:13):
up and found their child dead. And that's how we
got into that issue, real people, real problems, and we
did have the DEA there, we did have representatives there
that were involved in every aspect of the story. But
still I approached it through the acts of these parents
(43:37):
that lost these precious young people. And that's how I
intend to continue to do this, to talk about this,
not with a bunch of talking head experts like you
see on the twenty four hour cable news networks, but
instead by dealing with real people that are impacted by
these stories.
Speaker 3 (43:56):
And as you know, the numbers are staggering. Last year,
more than one hundred thousand Americans died of drug overdoses.
Roughly seventy percent of that is Chinese fentanyl coming across
our southern border. That's the highest in the history of
our country. To put it in perspective, one hundred thousand
people dying is almost double the number of Americans who
(44:20):
died in the entire Vietnam War. And that was last year.
And even the word overdose is the wrong word because poisoning.
Speaker 5 (44:28):
It's poisoning.
Speaker 3 (44:29):
And you know, I've visited with a lot of these
parents who've lost their kids, and you're right, it's not
a heroin addict on the street. Who's a junkie, it's
it's a teenager, it's a college kid who's at a
party and someone says, here, try one xanax, try one
adderall and they take it, and just one, the wrong
(44:51):
one can kill them.
Speaker 5 (44:53):
You know.
Speaker 3 (44:53):
I had a DA agent do an illustration that I
think is really powerful.
Speaker 5 (44:57):
He had several of us take.
Speaker 3 (44:59):
A power A Sweet and Low and he said, tear
this open, empty all the Sweet and Low out of
the packet.
Speaker 5 (45:04):
So we all did that.
Speaker 3 (45:06):
He said, okay, now take your pinky and just stick
it in the packet and pull it out. And when
you do that, you have a couple of little tiny
grains on your fingertip. And he said, that is enough
fentanyl to kill you. And I'll tell you I sat
down with both our daughters and I gave them packets
A Sweet and Low and had them do that. But
as a parent, it's terrifying because you hope the message sticks.
(45:30):
And the problem is teenagers sometimes do dumb things, and
when the dumb things can kill you, that's really terrifying.
Speaker 4 (45:40):
Yeah. And now there's something called car fentanyl, which is
even more powerful than fentanyl, And people say, well, why
would a drug dealer want to kill their client, their customers.
They don't want to kill them. It's just so addictive
that if they'll take it and not die, they just
are immediately addicted and they come back. But they're mixing
(46:04):
this stuff up in a bathtub with a boatdoor. This
isn't a drug, it's no and they don't know how
much gets in this one or that one and and so.
But to answer your question, that's how I'm going to
do it, and I'm going to do it because that's
how my audience, the people that I've built a relationship
(46:27):
with over twenty one years, that's how they're used to
getting the information from people they can relate to, and
what they do. Every guest I have on is a
teaching tool. And you know, people don't know because I
have kind of a I guess, a shoot from the
hip style of delivery. But I get like a two
(46:50):
hundred and fifty page notebook for every single show we do,
and we get a cross sectional history of medical history,
of longitudinal history. We have a research and I have
a fifteen member Blue Ribbon advisory board with the top
minds in medicine, psychology, psychiatry, nursing theology, every area from
(47:14):
the top learning centers in the country, a lot of
them peer review journal editors, and if I have a
really complex case, I can send it to them and
we talk about it, and we stick with evidence based
therapies and give them cutting edge information because there's an
eighteen month lag between submitting findings and getting out in
(47:34):
a peer review journal, and I'm able to get it immediately.
And we really try and deliver the absolute best available
information to people about these key issues everyday in understandable terms,
and we're going to stay with that format going forward.
Speaker 2 (47:54):
Doctor Philip, thank you so much for being with us,
being a part of this the audience. You guys give
doctor Phil a big round of applause as well.
Speaker 4 (48:02):
Well. Thank you for having the us fascinating and in
death questions. Thank you so much.
Speaker 2 (48:06):
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Speaker 2 (01:50):
Doc Phil Part two, Nice to have you with us
today as well as we're talking about America, American families
and everything that's going on this country. Plus we're going
to get into a very important issue and that is
the issue of COVID and what impact it had on
the families in this country.
Speaker 3 (02:06):
Well, and I've got to say this has been fascinating.
We've covered a lot of topics that Verdict typically doesn't
get into. We've we've covered being a parent, being a spouse,
we've covered the mental health challenges facing our kids, and
we've talked about the desperate, neat need for truth. And
I will say, if you didn't listen to part one,
(02:27):
go back and listen to part one, because you're not
gonna want to miss the discussion from doctor Phil unplugged
in a way you may you may not have seen
him before, but saying things that need to be said
and demonstrating an enormous amount of courage.
Speaker 4 (02:42):
Well, I'm like a bad rash. You can't get rid
of me.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
Work ethic in society today. As parents, you want to
raise your kids to love the Lord, you want to
raise your kids to have manners. But we're being undermind.
Parents are being in her mind with work ethic.
Speaker 4 (02:58):
We're a double income society, and you have both parents
working so much that they're just really burning the candle
at both ends, and some of those fundamentals really aren't
(03:18):
being focused on. And you say, how do we how
do we get the work ethic Sentater and I were
talking earlier. You and I are so aligned in focus
because I said, meritocracy is so important to me if
we lose that, and you know right now, we've got
(03:46):
a government that wants to give everything to everybody for free,
and we're teaching people that you don't have to work
hard for what you want, and the statistics are staggering.
If people spend month after month after month not full
(04:11):
time working, they're off work, like during the pandemic, the
chance of them coming back. Everybody thought when the pandemic
was over, it was going to look like that scene
in the movie Grease at the end of the school
year where those doors flung open and it was a
carnival and everybody comes running out. And it wasn't that
(04:32):
way at all. People were intimidated. Things they used to
take for granted were now intimidating. And when you don't
hold people to a standard, then I've spent a lot
of time in rehab. And I'm not talking about drug rehab.
I'm talking about rehabilitating people with brain injuries and spinal
(04:54):
cord injuries. And if it takes someone that has had
that kind of injury and they need to turn the
light on and it takes them three minutes to get
over there to do it, or you could walk over
and do it for them, you need to require them
to do one hundred percent of what they're able to
(05:15):
do or they'll never get to the next level. And
so you ask me, how do we get them to
do that by requiring them to do everything they can
do every chance we get to do it. And right now,
(05:36):
almost a third of fifth and eighth graders can't read
at the most fundamental level. They can't read a sentence,
And the question is how did they get into fifth grade?
How did they get in the eighth grade? Nineteen percent
of high school graduates can't read. They cannot read. How
(06:03):
do you graduate high school if you can't read in
the first, second, and third grade. You learned to read
from the fourth grade on. You read to learn. So
if you don't learn to read in those first three grades,
you don't have that tool to learn the rest of
(06:24):
your life. And if teachers are going to pass them
either way, then you're just setting them up to fail.
Speaker 5 (06:33):
It's utterly destructive. You know.
Speaker 3 (06:35):
One of the things you mentioned in that answer is
you talked about coming out of COVID, and I'd be
interested in your judgment on what was the damage that
was done from a mental health perspective from the shutdowns
we had across the country, and what was the damage
in particular to kids from tens of millions of kids
(06:58):
across this country, their schools shut down for a year
or more.
Speaker 5 (07:02):
And what what do you see as the consequences of.
Speaker 4 (07:05):
Those policies When they shut down this country in the
schools at the beginning of COVID and said this is
going to be for a couple of weeks, I said,
I get it. When it turned into a month or
two months, I went public and said, what you're doing
is going to create more damage and more loss of
(07:29):
life than the virus itself.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
So you saw it before a lot of people did well.
Speaker 4 (07:36):
I actually said it and got called a complete idiot.
Speaker 5 (07:45):
I've never had that happen to me neither.
Speaker 4 (07:48):
I got called a complete I got attacked from every
possible way you can. And I said, I stand by
what I say, and I said it. I think I've
got fifteen clips of different times that I said shutting
this country down and taking our kids out of school
(08:10):
for a prolonged period of time, and the epidemiological pediatricians
estimate that it will cost somewhere around fifteen million years
of life lost for these kids. And they figure that
because you got roughly fifty million kids in public school
(08:31):
plus the private schools, and because of what they lost,
they will never close that gap, and with lesser educational achievement,
they will get lesser jobs, lesser jobs or usually higher
risk jobs because they're blue collar and they're working with
(08:54):
machinery and construction and things where they get injured. They
have poor health covery, which means they get slower diagnosis
and lesser care, and so it obtains with years of
life shaved off the end of their lives. And what
gets me is they did this. The same agencies that
(09:18):
advocated for this are the same agencies that had the
records that said, we have the highest levels of anxiety, depression,
and loneliness among our children than we've had since records
were being kept. So let's shut down the schools which
we know are essential to their development. It's like throwing
(09:44):
gas on a fire. And that doesn't even take into
account that mandated reporters are in these schools who report
child abuse and molestation, and referrals to the Department of
Child and Family Services dropped in some areas fifty to
(10:05):
sixty percent. And trust me, abuse molestation did not drop
fifty to sixty percent. We simply rendered those children alone
with their abusers for two years without eyes on them
to report it. To people that could help them. We
simply abandoned them to their abusers. And so many of
(10:30):
these children relied on those schools for at least one,
if not two, meals per day. We took that away.
And some say, well, but they delivered those meals. Some
got them delivered, some didn't. So we created a huge
educational gap. We abandoned the abused and molested children to
(10:52):
their abusers and molesters. And nobody has done anything to
close the gap utterly other than that, no problem, you know.
Speaker 3 (11:03):
I'll actually say today is an interesting milestone.
Speaker 5 (11:06):
I tweeted about it earlier. Today.
Speaker 3 (11:09):
Today is the sixty sixth anniversary of the day that
my father came to the United States of America. So
sixty six years ago in nineteen fifty seven, my dad
landed in America and he was fleeing Cuba, and he'd
been in prison in Cuba. He'd been tortured in Cuba,
and he came here with nothing. He came here with
(11:29):
one hundred dollars in his underwear, and he washed dishes.
He made fifty cents an hour, and America gave him freedom,
gave him security, gave him hope, gave him the ability
to work and excel and achieve and prosper. And there
is no nation in the history of the world like America.
(11:50):
And that is I look on too many college campuses.
The faculties don't believe it. You and I were talking
earlier today about your conversation with college kids who, when
it comes to looters in California, say that the looters
have a right to take what they want.
Speaker 4 (12:08):
The shoplifters, I've had them city in my studio audience,
say they're taking what's rightfully theirs because they're not being
paid a living wage. And look, I get it. But
if you're sitting home in a beanbag eating Cheetos while
somebody else is working their butt off for fifteen years
to get consequential knowledge that people are willing to pay for,
(12:32):
you don't get the same outcome. You have to work
for what you want. That's what I said. When you
choose the behavior, you choose the consequences. And do we
need to give everybody better chances and better choices. Yes,
we need to work on that, there's no doubt about that.
But you cannot tell everybody that they're going to get
(12:55):
the same outcome. And we've got college professors that are
in there supposedly teaching art that are getting into all
of this. And if I had a child in college
right now that we're getting taught that, I would be
real upset about that, because let me tell you, where
are those professors going to be five years later, when
(13:17):
that young man is trying to buy braces for his
son or daughter and pay the rent. I'll tell you
where they're going to be. They're going to be gonzo.
You're gonna be able to find them with both hands
in a flashlight because they're going to be gone. They're
going to be down the road somewhere. And then here's
this person that got this college education and wasn't taught
to cope with the real world, which is a shark tank.
(13:39):
You get out there in the real world where somebody's
looking for somebody to produce, and here was somebody taught no,
it's the employer's job to get along with them instead
of the other way around. We did shows these people
that were doing quiet quitting where they just said, well
you just do the bare minimum. Well see where that
gets you. This is not what we need to be
(14:03):
talking about in America right now.
Speaker 5 (14:05):
How do we change it?
Speaker 4 (14:06):
We change it by people hearing what's going on, Hearing
that these algorithms are programmed to attack our children, hearing
what's going on on the college campuses, hearing that kids
are getting their feelings hurt and they're medicalizing it. There
have been more professors suspended, disciplined, or dismissed in the
(14:33):
last twenty or thirty years since the McCarthy era, because
now they're saying, no, this injured me. You 't heart
my feelings. It injured me. And so now they say, well,
we have to react to that, and so they're complaining
about it, and professors are getting dismissed because they're asking
(14:57):
students to take positions that's not comfortable for them.
Speaker 5 (15:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (15:04):
You know, in law school you had to take the defense.
Now you plain of both sides. And so they put
trigger warnings on everything. Trigger warnings are a myth. They
don't trigger warnings create the anxiety they're intended to avoid.
The research is clear on that, But yet there are
trigger something like sixty seventy percent of the universities use
(15:25):
trigger warnings.
Speaker 3 (15:26):
Look, and in fact, I'd go even further and say
the purpose of education is to trigger you. The purpose
of education is have you encounter uncomfortable views on comfortable.
Speaker 5 (15:40):
Positions, challenge your assumptions.
Speaker 3 (15:42):
For a number of years, I used to teach at
University of Texas Law School, and I taught a class
as an adjunct professor on Supreme Court litigation.
Speaker 5 (15:51):
And I would have my students.
Speaker 3 (15:53):
I would pick seven of the biggest cases before the
Supreme Court that term, and they were real cases, and
I would have the students the cases and argue the cases,
and the students, every student would get to argue two cases,
and the remainder of the cases, they would sit as
Supreme Court justices and they would ask the questions and
we'd do it exactly like the real argument, same time period.
(16:14):
And it was a two hour seminar once a week,
and so the first hour would be the argument. The
second hour, the nine justices would retire to conference and
they would discuss the case. And you were required to
discuss the case in the persona of your justice. So
you might be Clarence Thomas, you might be Ruth Bader Ginsburg,
and you were required to discuss the case and decide
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the case consistent with the jurisprudence of the justice that
you'd been assigned, and then each student was required to
write an opinion. And I got to tell you, I
think some of the best teaching moments is I would
assign the cases, and I would assign them randomly. I'd
actually just use letters and randomly assign the cases, and
I'd signed the sides. And we had a number of
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students who ended up being assigned positions they hated. I
remember one student who did very well in the class
was a West Point graduate had been an Army ranger
and he was assigned to represent a terrorist at GITMO,
challenging his detention. He didn't like that at all, but
he did a terrific job. I remember another student, a
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very liberal woman, was assigned to argue the case of
pro life protesters, which was a view she really didn't like.
And I thought teaching the class, those were more valuable
that if I had switched their positions and let them
argue the position they agreed with, they would have learned
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less from it. And now you have universities that that
that seem to be behaving saying our job is to
prevent you from encountering anything you disagree with, and surround
you only.
Speaker 5 (17:55):
That triggers you.
Speaker 2 (17:56):
That triggers you, triggers you, makes you feel uncomfortable.
Speaker 3 (17:59):
And that their job is to enforce an orthodoxy. You
must agree with what we're saying.
Speaker 4 (18:04):
Yeah, well, that's why they're booing and not letting speakers
that are invited to universities speak. I call it the
heckler's veto ye, the heckler's veto does.
Speaker 5 (18:19):
That's the phrase from court used.
Speaker 4 (18:20):
And you can't you can't learn if you're just preaching
to the choir all the time, Which is why I say,
I want both sides to come on and let people
here and make up their own mind. And we so
you said, what do we do about this? We've got
to awaken the masses to say, look, you've got to uh,
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you've got to speak up about this. You've got to
find your voice and talk about this. You know, I
said earlier. The reason that these small groups of activists,
this tyranny of the fringe, is so efficient, is because
they identify an enemy and go after that enemy. And
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the silent majority doesn't have an enemy like that. They
don't have a rally to attend because what they're trying
to do is raise their family with love and care
and concern and nurture them to get to the next
level of life. That's what we're supposed to do as parents,
is prepare our children for the next level of life.
Speaker 2 (19:24):
I want to ask you a question. You've said it twice,
maybe three times a night, the fear you have of
these algorithms they're targeting kids. Parents have so much pure
pressure now and kids have gotten really good at saying, well,
so and so has it. Well they've got a smartphone. Well,
they're online. They're on TikTok, they're on Instagram, they're on Twitter,
they're on Facebook. What advice do you have to parents
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about the appropriate age to give them a tool that
can also destroy their life, which is a cell phone
and allow them on social media.
Speaker 3 (19:53):
Forty five Yeah, I think it's a great number.
Speaker 5 (19:57):
My three boys are getting flip phones.
Speaker 3 (19:59):
Maybe just wait till all their classmates have them. It's
easy to say at the ages your kids are, wait
till they get in junior high in high school and
they're the only kid and they're facing complete ostracization because
all of the discussion of their classmates is through these
evil black hole devices we put in our kids' hands.
Speaker 4 (20:22):
Here's the thing. There are arguments on both sides. It's
good for the child to have a device where you
can reach them at any time, you can track them
at any time, you can put all of these parental
controls on there. They're so far ahead of us they
can laugh at us. They have workarounds, and if you
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don't give them the devices, they're going to be on
their friends' devices. The better thing you.
Speaker 3 (20:53):
I got to tell you a story. So our daughter
got grounded. We took our phone away. She was grounded
for a month. It's pretty serious grounding. And we'd taken
her phone away. A couple of weeks go by, and
then Heidi gets an email from the phone company that's
kind of a curious email, and we discovered that before
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she handed her phone over, she had gone into the
phone and taken out the SIM card, of course, and
she got a burn heer phone from a friend and
put it in the phone. And what was amazing is
she said, she said, well, you said you were taking
my phone away. You didn't say you were taking my
SIM card away. And it was you know, she's got
a fabulous mind, and it was a great argument. But
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you're right, our kids can run circles around us on technology.
Speaker 4 (21:39):
Yea, I say this. I always tell people that you
should talk to your children about things that don't matter.
And they said, well, what do you mean by that?
And you watch these medical shows on TV? And what's
one of the first things I say when you roll
somebody into the er? They say, start an IV with
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ringers lactate. Does anybody ever know what that is?
Speaker 5 (22:05):
I have no idea what it is.
Speaker 4 (22:06):
Well, it's water and it's saline. It's an inert substance.
And why do they do it. They're getting a vein open,
so when they figure out what they do need, the
vein is open and all they have to do is
plug something into it. That's why I say talk to
kids about things that don't matter, because when it comes
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time to talk about something that does matter, you got
that vein open. And if you're talking to them about
something that really matters, and it's the first time you've
ever tried to have a conversation with them, it's going
to feel really awkward. But if you've been talking to
them about their video game or shooting baskets with them,
about getting a dog, about who they're dating, about this,
(22:51):
about that, just about regular things. But there's a dialogue
that's going on, and then it comes time where you
have to talk to them about something that really matters.
It's not like you're on your first date. You know,
you've got this dialogue going, and when you roll into
something it really matters, it's open, it doesn't feel so awkward.
(23:13):
And when you start talking about the internet and the phone.
Every time I do a show about these predators or
these algorithms and how a significant percentage of young girls
get into Instagram or whatever, and so they start getting depressed.
(23:34):
I take all of that and send it to my
granddaughter and say, you know, read this, let's talk about this,
and she becomes aware of it and goes, well, wow,
I don't know. And you know, just before we walked
in here, I was on the cameras and she's over
having a party, a swim party with all the adults there.
(23:55):
She's not sitting at home. And that's what's happening right
now with young people. They're watching people live their lives
instead of living their own lives. And the lives they're
watching being lived are fantasies.
Speaker 5 (24:11):
They're not.
Speaker 4 (24:13):
It's it's not even the good, it's fictional good. I've
had influencers on the show who say they get all
dressed up and say, yeah, they're going to this big event,
this big party. They're going to the NBA All Star Game,
They're going to this, going that, And as soon as
they do the shoot, they turn it off, put their
sweats on and go sit down and watch TV or
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sit down watching whatever. They don't. They're not that's not
their real lives. And people compare themselves to these fictional
lives and they get depressed because they say, I'm a loser.
I'm not doing any of that stuff. I'm not going
to there. There's a there. This is an amazing thing.
I actually had them on. There is a false fuselize
(24:57):
to a private jet. It's in La Now, it was
in San Francisco. It's just in a room. It's a
seat with a window. They rent by fifteen minutes for
influencers to come on. They'll come there with like ten
changes of clothes, like summer, Christmas, all this stuff. They
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sit down and do all these photo shoots so they
can post them throughout the year. Like they're off to Cabo,
you know, they're off to Asping for skiing, They're off
to the They don't go anywhere they're going and sitting
in a box in a warehouse.
Speaker 5 (25:33):
And pay them to do it. That's hysterical.
Speaker 4 (25:35):
They used to do it with a toilet seat that
looked like it was a window. Now they actually have
one they go sit in. It's just it's just.
Speaker 5 (25:44):
In a room. Well, you know, capitalism is incredible, Oh
isn't it?
Speaker 4 (25:47):
Though?
Speaker 3 (25:48):
All right, so let me ask you. You're in Hollywood.
Hollywood at least, I think they're nuts.
Speaker 4 (25:53):
I'm a Texas resident. I know you are, so don't
be saying I'm in Hollywood.
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Speaker 3 (27:44):
Yeah, you are a resident of the great state of Texas.
Speaker 5 (27:47):
You're in Dallas.
Speaker 3 (27:49):
We are proud you're a Texan. But how have you
not been canceled? I mean, you've dared say things you're
not supposed to say, and yet you work in Hollywood
and you're still standing. How what has the reaction been
to you, what has the pushback been to you?
Speaker 5 (28:06):
And how have you survived?
Speaker 4 (28:07):
I think the truth is I've been really consistent in
owning the debate. Lane. I give both sides an opportunity
to talk about their position and let people make up
their own minds. And I've now seen that there's too
(28:34):
much traction being gained and somebody needs to stand up
and give this a voice. And like I said in
the beginning, I'll sit around and say, you know, the media,
this the media that, the media, this the media that.
And Robin said to me, I guess it's about a
year and a half ago. We were sitting in the kitchen.
(28:55):
She said, you know you are the media. Well you're
bitching about the media. You are the media. Why aren't
you doing something about it? And as usual, she was right.
Speaker 2 (29:12):
Would we ever see and it seems that you're in
I say, this is a sincere compliment. The fourth quarter
of your career, and it seems that you're now thinking
about where we are as a country, your legacy. Would
we ever see doctor Phil's name on a ballot? Is
that something that you've ever even thought of?
Speaker 4 (29:29):
No, I'll tell you why. I think I can have
more of an impact doing what I'm doing the way
I'm doing it now than if I went into politics.
First off, I don't think I know enough about it,
(29:50):
And I think you got to know where your strengths
are and your weaknesses are. I mean Senator Cruz here,
constitutional law expert. He's immersed himself in this. I spend
twenty years and not be where he was on day one.
I get that he is really good at what he does.
(30:13):
And I'm in my lane and he's in his lane.
I would rather work with him in his lane from
my lane than try to get in his lane.
Speaker 3 (30:23):
So let me ask you a different question. You may
remember the movie Mel Gibson was in What Women Want.
A very substantial percentage of your viewers are women across
America who tune into you and listen and are very
interested in what you have to say. So I guess
my question would be the title of the movie what
a women Want? What resonates and height? He's laughing in
(30:47):
the audience. I'm seeking counseling. See, my dear, I'm actually
getting advice.
Speaker 5 (30:54):
The man's really working on you.
Speaker 4 (30:56):
You're asking me what women does? Somebody write stupid on
my forehead? Well, Robin and I just celebrated our forty
seventh anniversary last week.
Speaker 5 (31:09):
Congratulations.
Speaker 4 (31:10):
Yeah, we've been together fifty years, married forty seven. And
I've learned this. When she says what it does not
mean she did not hear what I said. It means
she's given me a chance to change what I said.
Speaker 2 (31:33):
If you're taking notes in the audience or listening to
this show, this is when you write that down.
Speaker 4 (31:38):
Yes, that is something to write down. So what I
know about what women want? I have a clue. I
know this. It is changing. And I did a show
(32:00):
with women talking about how their role is changing in
this day and time, and they were very outspoken about this.
And I think, you know, I think women are people,
and I think they want to be hurt. I think
(32:20):
they want to be treated with dignity and respect. I
think they want to have an opportunity to be acknowledged
for the contributions they make and the things that they do,
and I think it is changing. But like I said,
(32:40):
this country is not perfect and we're making progress, but
it needs to change.
Speaker 3 (32:46):
So let me ask a follow up to that. This podcast,
we talk about politics a lot and policy a lot.
If you look at politics right now in elections nationally,
Republicans are typically winning married men, single men, and married women.
(33:08):
But right now in elections, Democrats are winning single women
by huge margins.
Speaker 4 (33:16):
You know, I think the difference, one of the differences
I see between the messaging between Democrats and Republicans is
I think Democrats do a better job of messaging about
the feeling parts of the process than Republicans do.
Speaker 5 (33:35):
Ye. Unquestionably, I think.
Speaker 4 (33:37):
Republicans do a real good job about messaging objectives and
bottom lines and quantifying those objectives in setting measurable outcomes.
And that's really important.
Speaker 3 (33:56):
And one of the things that's interesting is that get
being married is strongly correlated with more conservative voting patterns,
and being single is inversely correlated. Now, some of that
may just be a factor of age that young people. Historically,
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Winston Churchill famously said, if you're twenty and not a liberal,
you have no heart. And if you're forty and not
a conservative, you.
Speaker 5 (34:24):
Have no brain.
Speaker 3 (34:26):
That's been true for a long time that young people
skew left, and as they get older, they tend to
get more conservative.
Speaker 5 (34:32):
So that's a factor.
Speaker 3 (34:33):
But do you see something in the divide between single
women and married women that would produce a really significant
delta in their voting patterns.
Speaker 4 (34:43):
Well? I do in that. As I've said, I think
family in America is under attack, and I think when
you become part of a family, your value shift dramatically
because now you're responsible for somebody other than yourself. You're
responsible for your home. And we've seen marriage on the decline.
(35:09):
People are getting married later in life now. Marriage is
down now compared to what it was a generation ago.
We've seen church membership drop below the fifty percent level
for the first time ever. And you know one reason
for that is I think we've seen our birth rate
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drop now to one point six and it takes two
point one to sustain this society right now, and it's
dropped now to around one point six. And most people
when they have a child, they want to go to
church and have the child, you know, christened or baptized
(35:50):
or whatever. So if you're having fewer marriages and fewer children,
then you have fewer families that go to church to
start with and begin that tradition. I think that's all
tied together.
Speaker 3 (36:02):
And now do you have any theories on why fewer
people are getting married, having fewer children, fewer people are
going to church.
Speaker 4 (36:09):
I do. That's what it's part of this whole theory
I have about family being under attack. It's like in
two thousand and eight, two thousand and nine, it's like
I have this image of huge airplanes flying over the
United States and dropping smartphones on everybody. And that's when
people started watching people live their lives instead of living
(36:31):
their own. They started dating later, they started getting their
driver's license. Later, they have fewer friends, they stop socializing.
They started social development much later and much less efficiently
because they're living virtual lives instead of real lives. So
social development was really arrested at that time. And if
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you if you go back and look at it, you
see in eighth nine that begins in to disrupt the
social development in America. It's an unintended consequence of carrying
a computer with a visual screen in your hand and
it's just gone up dramatically, and that's where the social
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platform started launching, and it took the place of having
real friends. You say, oh, I've got you know, I've
got three hundred friends. No you don't. You have three
hundred followers. You don't know these people. I have these
people that come on and say they're engaged. We mean
(37:37):
you're engaged. You've never met this person. You've been messaging
back and forth for two years to somebody and it
turns out to be somebody in a Nigerian workroom. That's
you've been sending money for two years. That's not a relationship.
But people are confusing followers and clicks for real relationships,
(38:04):
and sometimes they fall in love with the fantasy, not
even really caring whether it's a real person. On the
other end, they fall in love with the fantasy. So
I think we've got to really encourage our kids to
get off the screens and get out on to the
playground and get out into the go to the school dances.
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You ask these young people today how many friends they have,
you would be stunned at how few it is compared
to what it was. A generation will go.
Speaker 2 (38:36):
For everybody that's watching listening to this. You also have
a podcast as well, in a book coming out quickly
as we wrap up this, tell everybody where all they
can find all.
Speaker 4 (38:45):
This well, thank you for asking, and there are going
to be press releases and information coming out on that
very soon. And it's not a maybe thing. We're building
the broadcast center right now. I'm leaving here now, headed
to Texas, and we're designing so many of the things.
(39:07):
The news department is built, my studio is under construction
right now, and a huge broadcast center, and most of
my senior people from Doctor Phild one point zero are
packing up the truck and moving out of Beverly, coming
to Texas and buying homes in Fort Worth, Keller, Dallas.
(39:32):
Argyle all around and tell them I do, and I
tell them how great it was and how value, how
values were great, but very exciting, and in like I say,
in late January, first week of February, we're going to
be launching. It's when the book's going to be landing.
(39:53):
And I am more excited about this than I was
when we launched Doctor Phild to begin with. Very excited,
and I hope people listening are saying, you know.
Speaker 5 (40:04):
Does the network have an am yet.
Speaker 4 (40:07):
It does, but we haven't released it.
Speaker 5 (40:08):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (40:09):
One of the questions from the audience, Doctor Phil was
a question of what type of shows, what type of host,
what type of roles is it going to be, and
how's it going to be different than what you've done before.
Speaker 4 (40:18):
Well, I think that one of the things that I
bring to the process that is unique to my particular
brand or approach is that I'm a journalist and a
mental health professional at the same time. And what I've
(40:40):
always done is talk to real people with real problems
and try to come up with real solutions. And I
intend to stay with that format in the new show.
And what I mean by that is, even though we're
going to be talking about different things like social issues,
(41:02):
whether it's homelessness, or whether it's the problems we're having
with the internet, or it's this issue about the government
paying people not to work instead of two work, or
whatever the issue might be, I'm going to approach that
(41:23):
by telling those stories and dealing with those issues through
the eyes of the people that are impacted by them.
I think one of the best examples is, you know,
we talked about buying these counterfeit pills on the internet,
forty percent of which will kill you. Think about that.
(41:47):
You've got to really stop to wrap your head around
that four out of ten pills you buy, that you
can buy whether you're twelve or thirteen or fourteen, four
out of ten, ten of those will kill you. This
fentanyl is being manufactured in China, sent to the Sinaloa cartel.
(42:10):
In Mexico, they raided a pill factory just south of
the border near San Diego that was stamping out seventy
million pills a month. One lab. Seventy million pills a month.
Not all of them are coming here, but a lot
(42:30):
of them are coming to America. And when I talk
about that, I don't want to have a bunch of
talking head experts up there. I had four sets of
parents who had non drug addicted children that ordered pills
during finals of college to stay awake or to do this,
(42:53):
or to do that, and they found them dead the
next morning, and credit card receipts where they ordered one pill,
yep one pill from a social media platform and we're
dead the next morning. And I approach that by telling
this story through the eyes of the parents who went
(43:13):
up and found their child dead. And that's how we
got into that issue, real people, real problems, and we
did have the DEA there, we did have representatives there
that were involved in every aspect of the story. But
still I approached it through the acts of these parents
(43:37):
that lost these precious young people. And that's how I
intend to continue to do this, to talk about this,
not with a bunch of talking head experts like you
see on the twenty four hour cable news networks, but
instead by dealing with real people that are impacted by
these stories.
Speaker 3 (43:56):
And as you know, the numbers are staggering. Last year,
more than one hundred thousand Americans died of drug overdoses.
Roughly seventy percent of that is Chinese fentanyl coming across
our southern border. That's the highest in the history of
our country. To put it in perspective, one hundred thousand
people dying is almost double the number of Americans who
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died in the entire Vietnam War. And that was last year.
And even the word overdose is the wrong word because poisoning.
Speaker 5 (44:28):
It's poisoning.
Speaker 3 (44:29):
And you know, I've visited with a lot of these
parents who've lost their kids, and you're right, it's not
a heroin addict on the street. Who's a junkie, it's
it's a teenager, it's a college kid who's at a
party and someone says, here, try one xanax, try one
adderall and they take it, and just one, the wrong
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one can kill them.
Speaker 5 (44:53):
You know.
Speaker 3 (44:53):
I had a DA agent do an illustration that I
think is really powerful.
Speaker 5 (44:57):
He had several of us take.
Speaker 3 (44:59):
A power A Sweet and Low and he said, tear
this open, empty all the Sweet and Low out of
the packet.
Speaker 5 (45:04):
So we all did that.
Speaker 3 (45:06):
He said, okay, now take your pinky and just stick
it in the packet and pull it out. And when
you do that, you have a couple of little tiny
grains on your fingertip. And he said, that is enough
fentanyl to kill you. And I'll tell you I sat
down with both our daughters and I gave them packets
A Sweet and Low and had them do that. But
as a parent, it's terrifying because you hope the message sticks.
(45:30):
And the problem is teenagers sometimes do dumb things, and
when the dumb things can kill you, that's really terrifying.
Speaker 4 (45:40):
Yeah. And now there's something called car fentanyl, which is
even more powerful than fentanyl, And people say, well, why
would a drug dealer want to kill their client, their customers.
They don't want to kill them. It's just so addictive
that if they'll take it and not die, they just
are immediately addicted and they come back. But they're mixing
(46:04):
this stuff up in a bathtub with a boatdoor. This
isn't a drug, it's no and they don't know how
much gets in this one or that one and and so.
But to answer your question, that's how I'm going to
do it, and I'm going to do it because that's
how my audience, the people that I've built a relationship
(46:27):
with over twenty one years, that's how they're used to
getting the information from people they can relate to, and
what they do. Every guest I have on is a
teaching tool. And you know, people don't know because I
have kind of a I guess, a shoot from the
hip style of delivery. But I get like a two
(46:50):
hundred and fifty page notebook for every single show we do,
and we get a cross sectional history of medical history,
of longitudinal history. We have a research and I have
a fifteen member Blue Ribbon advisory board with the top
minds in medicine, psychology, psychiatry, nursing theology, every area from
(47:14):
the top learning centers in the country, a lot of
them peer review journal editors, and if I have a
really complex case, I can send it to them and
we talk about it, and we stick with evidence based
therapies and give them cutting edge information because there's an
eighteen month lag between submitting findings and getting out in
(47:34):
a peer review journal, and I'm able to get it immediately.
And we really try and deliver the absolute best available
information to people about these key issues everyday in understandable terms,
and we're going to stay with that format going forward.
Speaker 2 (47:54):
Doctor Philip, thank you so much for being with us,
being a part of this the audience. You guys give
doctor Phil a big round of applause as well.
Speaker 4 (48:02):
Well. Thank you for having the us fascinating and in
death questions. Thank you so much.
Speaker 2 (48:06):
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have more than doubled on homes now, the highest interest
rates on home that we see in twenty one years.
We've seen inflation issues and that is where it is
affecting your retirement, your four one K. We know that
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it's important to diversify your investments, especially if you are
close to retirement or in retirement. That's why I want
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you protect your hard earned dollars, your hard earned investments,
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