September 25, 2023 • 45 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Center.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
Nice to be with you in person. I love it
when we get to do this once a week. You
had a very interesting weekend, and I think this conversation
what people are about to see is very foreshadowing of
the presidential election and the conversation that many Americans are
going to be having. There's this thing called Tripfest down
in Austin. It's a bunch of lefties in a room,
a bunch of young people.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
I love what I.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
Get to watch you do these things because I know
how much you enjoy it. But there was real dialogue
and a real conversation that's important for the country. And
one of the things about this was you got to
talk about issues like school choice, which was incredible.
Speaker 3 (00:36):
Well that's right.
Speaker 4 (00:36):
So on Saturday, I was up in Austin and the
event Tripfest they do every year. It's hosted by the
Texas Tribune, which is a Texas political and news organization,
and they have lots of different elected officials. They have
predominantly Democrats. They get media, they get reporters from all
over the country.
Speaker 3 (00:53):
National media comes down.
Speaker 4 (00:55):
They've had Hillary Clinton down there, they had they had
Joe Manchin this year.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
They bring in it's sort of a nickname.
Speaker 4 (01:04):
The Weekend has his Libfest instead of trip Fest because
it's accurate. It skews heavily left, and most of the
attendees are either left wing reporters or their UT students
who lean heavily left. And so this event was an
hour long where I'm up on stage being interviewed by
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a reporter, Patrick Fetech, who's their political reporter, very smart,
capable guy. I know Patrick well, and so he interviewed
me for forty five minutes and then the audience said
fifteen minutes of questions. And as I said, I've done
it year after year after year, and the crowd are
always these like woke lefties.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
From UT know everything who.
Speaker 4 (01:50):
Are are frankly horrified to see someone right a center.
Speaker 3 (01:55):
But it gives you a chance.
Speaker 4 (01:57):
And actually, while I was there, I took the point
of thanking them, the folks who were booing me, to say.
Speaker 3 (02:04):
Hey, listen, thank you for coming. Yeah. You know, I
talked about.
Speaker 4 (02:08):
At the outset how we don't talk to each other enough,
how we do too much screaming and yelling, and the
right talks to the right and the left talks to
the left. And in fact I told them I said,
all right, it'll kill you to do this, but subscribe
to the podcast. You ought to actually listen to a
view that that that you don't ordinarily hear. But it
was it was a good chance to talk about a
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lot of issues. And here's the first where I brought
up school choice. And they all had their minds made
up to begin with. But here's the exchange. I think
this year is the best opportunity of your in my
lifetime for the state legislature to pass a real and
serious school choice program to provide every child in Texas
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with with hope and access to an excellent education. Texas
unfortunately lags behind on school choice. I'm a passionate defender
of school choice. I've spent thirty years fighting for school choice.
I think it is the civil rights issue of the
twenty first century. And you know, people who have gotten
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a good education can laugh at that. But you know,
it's interesting if you go into the inner cities and
you ask African American parents, you ask Hispanic parents, do.
Speaker 3 (03:19):
They support school choice?
Speaker 4 (03:20):
Sixty seventy eighty percent of them support it. So I
get in Austin when folks have money and they feel
quite comfortable that they can oppost choice.
Speaker 3 (03:29):
Well, my view is, don't trap kids.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
I gotta say, I really do believe school choice is
an issue that is changing, and I think a lot
of it is because of COVID, but especially among African
American Hispanic Americans, single mothers.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
Yes, they want their kids out of these.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
Failing schools, and they see the damage that these teachers
are doing their kids' future, and they saw it at home.
During the time of COVID, the lid came off. I
don't think you put this GUNI back in this bottle.
Speaker 4 (03:56):
Look, I agree. I think the momentum behind choice is mass.
If you're seeing growing numbers, you're seeing state after state
after state across the country passing school choice programs. For me,
it's been an issue that it's been a thirty year passion.
I think it is the single most important domestic issue
in this country. Education is the gateway. It's antecedent to
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every other social problem. So you think about it, whether
you're dealing with poverty or crime, or health.
Speaker 3 (04:24):
Care issues or substance abuse.
Speaker 4 (04:26):
If kids get an education, many of those problems largely
take care of themselves. On the other hand, if kids
don't get a good education, if they drop out, if
they don't learn to read and write. We know that
those problems crime and poverty, and healthcare issues and substance
abuse issues, they follow like night follows day, and so
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allowing kids to be trapped in failing schools is consigning
them to be shut out of the American dream.
Speaker 3 (04:56):
And it's There are a lot of issues in public life.
Speaker 4 (05:00):
You take an issue like affirmative action, you take an
issue like abortion, where people of good faith can disagree.
You and I have strong views on both of those topics,
but I understand the people who disagree with us. I
understand how someone can look at that same issue and
come to a different conclusion. And there are real arguments
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on both sides of that issue. School choice is the
only issue I know of in public policy on which
there is literally not a good argument on the other side.
The only argument is one of venal self interests. The
only argument is the teachers' unions bingo, who for whom
Democrat politicians are bought and paid for, and they view
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it as maintaining power. Because look a point I make
all the time, the rich and middle class.
Speaker 3 (05:49):
Have always had school choice.
Speaker 4 (05:50):
If you're at a wealthy jurisdiction. An example I use.
Let's say you live in Bethesda, Maryland. All right, so Bethesda,
Maryland is a very nice rink, which she shi neighborhood
outside of Washington.
Speaker 3 (06:03):
If the Bethesda public.
Speaker 4 (06:05):
Schools had a fifty percent dropout rate, if among those
kids who remained in school, only thirty percent graduated reading
at grade level, if you had drug dealers roaming the
hallways and you had little girls getting sexually assaulted in
the bathrooms, the Bethesda public schools would be empty. Why
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because the parents there have money, and so they would
do one of two things. They would either move, they'd
move to another home in a different district that had
a better public school. Or because they have the resources,
they would pay tuition to send their kid to a
private school. But they would not send their child to
a school that was failing. What happens is low income parents,
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often in the inner city, are trapped. They're facing schools
exactly what I just described, but if they're not rich,
they don't have the option to change it. And you
see democrats who are are blocking children. And it is
predominantly African American and Hispanic children in inner cities who
are trapped in these failing schools. And by the way,
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the Democrats like to like to consider themselves the champions
for the minority community, and on the single most important
civil rights issue in the country, which is giving those
kids a chance at the American dream, the Democrats are
adamantly opposed. And you listen to all of those left
wingers at ut laughing, Oh, how funny little children that
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can't get an education, ha ha. And there's an arrogance
on the left that I think is really disturbing.
Speaker 1 (07:39):
What is your.
Speaker 2 (07:40):
Advice for those that are running in this presidential election
on this issue, because when I when I worked in
the Bush campaign of four, there was this was a
third rail issue.
Speaker 1 (07:50):
It was a do not touch issue. It was leave
it alone. It was that's fascinating it. It was a
grand debate.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
It was two debates that we had on that campaign,
so secure reform, don't talk about it till after we win.
And then the second one was school choice in school vouchers.
It was like, we don't go there, that's third rail.
And I remember fighting, going, this is something we should
take to the people because people that are stuck in
failing schools. I was from Memphis, had a different perspective.
Majority of schools there. Public schools are failing schools year
after year. They're failing schools like this. You guys don't understand.
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If you take this idea to the community that has
it and needs it, they will side with you.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
You just have to explain it.
Speaker 2 (08:26):
Are we winning now where this is no longer that
fear of that third rail. Don't touch it, don't mention it.
Democrats will beat you over the head with it.
Speaker 4 (08:34):
So I got to say, I'm you and I have
never talked about this topic before, so I didn't know
that story. You were on the two thousand and four
Bush Cheney reelect. I was on the two thousand campaign,
the first Bush Cheney campaign, and my job was domestic
policy advisor.
Speaker 3 (08:49):
I was twenty eight twenty nine years old. I was
a young lawyer, and.
Speaker 4 (08:53):
I essentially covered any issue that touched on law, and
so education and school choice was not in my portfolio,
but I cared about it passionately, and so on the
two thousand campaign, I actually wrote a memo. I wrote
a memo to Karl Robe and Josh Bolden, all the
senior people on the campaign, arguing and arguing that George W.
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Bush should have come out and promised scholarships for one
million kids across the country to go to any school
of their choice.
Speaker 3 (09:20):
Lean in and own school choice. And I put the
polling data.
Speaker 4 (09:24):
I put the polling data that showed that African Americans
and Hispanics, even back then, that was twenty three years ago,
were consistently sixty seventy eighty percent in support a school choice.
They also at the time ranked education is their number
one issue, as did as did white parents, but Black
parents and Hispanic parents, they all put education at their
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top issue in ninety nine and two thousand and I said, look,
you've got the issue that is the top issue for
minority parents. They have an overwhelming view, and the Democrat
Party has bought and paid for by the teachers union,
so they are adamantly fighting them. And then I ran
a series of electoral hypotheticals. Sadly, I knew I was
not going to persuade the campaign on the merits we
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should have but but but I didn't even bother to
make that argument. I just tried to make a simple
political argument. I ran the numbers, looking at the last
three presidential races, and I ran a couple of hypotheticals.
I said, what would have happened if the Republican nominee
got five percent more, ten percent more, or fifteen percent
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more of the black and Hispanic vote. So I didn't
assume suddenly you get fifty percent more. I ran three
reasonable scenarios five percent more, ten and fifteen. The one
that really stood out to my mind was nineteen ninety
six Bob Dole versus Bill Clinton. If Bob Dole had
gotten fifteen percent more of the black and Hispanic vote,
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he would have won an additional ninety six electoral votes.
Speaker 3 (10:55):
Wow, it was stunning.
Speaker 4 (10:57):
And I still remember that debate when Bob Dole was
asked at education and his answer he said the word
school choice. But they were so painful. I remember screaming
at the television. I was so mad at this old
man who knew nothing about choice and didn't care about it,
and was reading a talking point that he didn't give
a flip about.
Speaker 3 (11:18):
And it was horrible.
Speaker 4 (11:21):
Well, this memo that I submitted, it got filed in
the circular file because the education advisors on that campaign
very much were sympathetic to the blob, to the teachers'
unions and the education bureaucracy, and so I was never
able to get them to embrace choice. And actually the
memo I wrote was co signed. I wrote it, but
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I asked the chief Economic Advisor who was on the
policy staff.
Speaker 3 (11:48):
He signed it. I asked the Chief Education Advisor, who
was in the policy staff. She signed it. Wow.
Speaker 4 (11:53):
I asked the chief advisor on kind of urban and
inner city issues.
Speaker 3 (11:58):
He signed it. And frankly, I could've gotten every.
Speaker 4 (12:00):
Single policy staffer they're about a dozen of us, to
sign it if I had asked them, I think, but
I didn't want. I thought that was sort of piling
on and to get. But the difference was we were
all twenty something or thirty something, and for the twenty
somethings and thirty somethings, we saw it as massively important.
The senior people on the campaign were forty somethings and
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fifty somethings, and they were not interested in taking it
on there.
Speaker 3 (12:26):
And they didn't Yeah, the same thing, you know.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
Four It was don't go there, great idea, great idea,
young guys, and we're not gonna do it.
Speaker 1 (12:33):
We don't touch it. And I think it's inching now
in this in this cycle.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
How This could change Republican Party for the better for
decades to come.
Speaker 4 (12:42):
So Ben, something I told Heidi before I first ran
for Senate in twenty twelve, I said, if when I
am dead and buried, my tombstone says Ted played a
meaningful part in bringing about school choice to every child
in Texas and every child to America, I said, I
will die a happy man. I mean, I mean that
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it is difficult to think of a more meaningful and
powerful legacy than giving kids hope and opportunity and a
real chance to achieve a better life for themselves and
their kids in the future.
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talked about something else that is really important at this event,
and that was the Second Amendment. The Second Amendment is
an issue that some don't like to touch. I love
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that you love to talk about it because it's something
you care about and you're willing to have a grand debate.
And it got a little feisty, especially with the audience.
I want people to see what you had to.
Speaker 4 (14:46):
Say this is the basic divide. Every time there's a
mass shooting, you see elected Democrats. Their approach is they
want to take away the Second Amendment rights of law
abiding citizens. Here's the pronounce See this is what I mean.
We just yell at each other. This is not that
there is zero evidence that doing so, There is zero
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evidence that doing so protects any lives. And in fact,
if you look nationally, if you look at the jurisdictions
with the strictest gun control laws, almost without exception, they
have among the highest murder rates and among the highest
crime rates. The city of Chicago has some of the
toughest gun control laws in the country, and it consistently
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has horrible murder rates. Because what happens if you pass
a law that disarms law abiding citizens. Law abiding citizens,
by definition, they follow the law. The criminals don't, and
so what ends up happening is the criminals target the
law abiding citizens. So your question, there are proposals that say, listen,
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we want to raise the age to buy a firearm
to age twenty one. Well, you know what, I think
that a nineteen or twenty year old single mom living
in the inner city and huge Dallas, going to work
in a dangerous neighborhood has a right to protect yourself
as a right under the Second Amendment, to protect yourself
from someone who would commit violence against her.
Speaker 3 (16:11):
And I'll give a stat again.
Speaker 4 (16:12):
Look, this is an audience who I think has their
mind made up and doesn't want to hear actual data.
Speaker 3 (16:18):
But let me give you. Let me give you data.
Speaker 4 (16:20):
From a source that I suspect you would agree with
the Obama White House. You're gonna agree that's not a
right wing source. Here's what the Obama White House put out.
They said, every year, firearms are used defensively to stop
a crime, to stop a murder, to stop a rape,
between five hundred thousand and a million times a year
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every year in the United States of America. That is
a very simple reality. And so when you disarm people,
when you take that nineteen year old single mom and
you say you can no longer defend yourself, the data
show you see crime rates go up, you see murder
rates go up, you see sexual assault rates go up.
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And if you want to stop those crimes, and listen,
I believe the people here want to stop those crimes.
But if you want to stop them, you should look
to the data of what actually works, and what works
is putting the criminals in jail.
Speaker 3 (17:16):
And I'll point out and.
Speaker 4 (17:17):
We got to move on to the next question, but
hold on a second. This is deeply connected. This is
deeply connected with the policies Democrats have championed defunding the
police and also George Soros prosecutors who release violent criminals.
Because the same people who are all worked up about
gun control are also by and large supporting releasing criminals
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from jail. And we see that pattern over and over
and over again and.
Speaker 3 (17:44):
When it happens. So I've sat down with.
Speaker 4 (17:47):
Texas police chiefs who said to me, we know who
the trigger pullers are, we know who the criminals are.
We want to arrest them, and we can't because they
keep getting let go and they keep committee more murders.
If you want to stop crime, go after the criminals,
not law abiding citizens.
Speaker 1 (18:05):
Let's talk about it. Another big issue. We got to
move on. You're making too much sense over your sinner.
We gotta with some mis move But we heard your answer.
Speaker 2 (18:15):
I can't believe that the audience couldn't even clap in
a basic idea that a single mother who's nineteen the
inner city should be able to defend yourself against someone
bring in your home, trying to kill a raper, whatever
it may be, not a clap in the room.
Speaker 3 (18:27):
That don't look Rich Liberals like school choice. If you're
a rich liberal, you live in a neighborhood where they haven't.
Speaker 4 (18:36):
Abolished the police, You've got lots of police officers protecting
your home. You know, Actually, if you're wealthy enough, the
second Amendment is not necessarily life or death because you're
able to outsource protection. You're able to live in an
environment where you're not living next door to a crack
house at all likelihood. If you're low income, if you're
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in the inner city, if you're a single, you're facing
the very real prospect of if you're taking the subway
at home at night, or the bus at home at night,
at being robbed at gunpoint, at being assaulted, and you
often don't have a choice.
Speaker 3 (19:15):
You don't have another option.
Speaker 4 (19:17):
You can't move to a safer place where the criminals
are not next to you. And liberals talk about compassion enormously,
but when you actually point out that the people who
are hurt by their policies are the most vulnerable, they
get very angry. They do not like you're not allowed
to defend an African American single mom in the inner
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city because they're in charge of her, and damn it,
if they disarmor and she gets killed, it was good
for it made them feel good to disarm her, even
though they also championed the policy that released the murderer
who killed her. They take no responsibility. You heard the
crowd howling when I brought up George Soros prosecutors. So
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they all support, but they all contribute.
Speaker 2 (20:03):
They laugh, they act like you're making it up. The
data shows that you're not.
Speaker 4 (20:07):
The numbers are staggering. George Soros has spent literally millions
of dollars electing DA's who let violent criminals out of
jail over and over and over again. And they commit
crimes over and over and over again. But you know what,
they generally don't commit crimes against rich people living in rich,
white liberal neighborhoods where they say, oh, I feel so
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good emptying the prisons. Isn't that nice? No, it's the
inner cities. It's the people, and it's predominantly African Americans
and Hispanics whose lives are lost. All the people with
the yard signs out front of their house that say
black lives matter apparently don't really give a damn about
black lives because when you point out that more African
Americans are being murdered because of the left wing policies
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they support, undermining police officers and letting violent criminals go,
they react like that crowd. They boo you just they
don't want to hear it.
Speaker 2 (20:58):
Just two weeks ago, there's an African American young way
there was a soros DA elected because SROs backed him
and gave them the money, and she was shot. It
was four or five times by her ex She was
in surgery in critical condition, and the man who they
caught who shut her, had already gotten out of jail
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because of an activist soros DA who said bail reform,
Oh I can't keep you here, you don't have a
lot of money. He was out free in the city
while that woman was still in surgery fighting for her life.
And that's the source day and they laugh about that. Yeah,
it's amazing. There's also another issue that it's interesting to
see how abortion plays in election cycles. There seems to
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be a real taste for revenge right now from Democrats
because of the overturning of Roe v. Wade and going
back to the States. There seems to be this is
a presidential election year issue. They want it to be
inspiring for women and feminists and angry people on the
left to come out and get revenge because they say
how their Republicans protect the life of the unborn. You
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talked about some of the ways are trying to get
back Roe v. Wade and try to put back these
laws into place, and that also had a very interesting
reaction from the crowd.
Speaker 4 (22:09):
Take a look, so twice the Democrats have taken up
a bill and it's a bill they said was to
recodify ROW.
Speaker 1 (22:18):
I get it. It's you're saying it's not it's not
plausible politically, right.
Speaker 3 (22:20):
Well, but let me go a little further.
Speaker 4 (22:23):
So the Democrats said the bill was was to codify Row.
And what's interesting that actually is poll tested, that polls
pretty well, but it is not in fact what the
bill would do. The bill that was voted on in
the Senate is a bill that would effectively strike down
every single state restriction on abortion, so it would legalize
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abortion up until the moment of birth. It would legalize
partial birth abortion.
Speaker 1 (22:48):
Democrats disputed.
Speaker 4 (22:50):
It would it would strike down parental notification and parental consent.
You're saying, but I want to say something that's important
to understand. If you look at national polling, that view
is an extreme and radical view. Nine percent of Americans
agree with that view, and every single Senate Democrat voted
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for that view. And so the position of Washington Democrats
is wildly out of step with where the American people are.
Speaker 2 (23:20):
I mean, Sier, you listen to the status, You listen
to what you said.
Speaker 1 (23:23):
He didn't want to hear it.
Speaker 2 (23:25):
The audience doesn't want to hear it, and they don't
want to hear what's actually in the bill that you
just describe because it doesn't fit their narrative, even though
it's not the truth.
Speaker 4 (23:33):
They just yell it's not true. No, no, no, it's
not true. And yet it is the view over and
over again of elected Democrats. And the hate when you
pointed out. Reporters hate when you pointed out. Activists hate
when you pointed out because Republicans are supposed to be
on the defensive. They're supposed to run away and not
be willing to discuss the issue.
Speaker 3 (23:51):
And what I said earlier at Tripfest I said.
Speaker 4 (23:55):
Listen, abortion, people disagree, people disagree strongly, and the Supreme
Court was right in overturning Row and leaving the issue
to the democratically elected legislature so that we can have
the answer to that question about what the rules should
be decided by the democrat process, not by nine unelected
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lawyers in black robes. And again, left wing activists don't
like to hear it. They wanted to create their view
and force it on people whether they like it or not,
because they've got a real problem with democracy.
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I wanted to get your take because I wanted to
see what the audience is gonna do. I was really
intrigued as I was watching this online as you were there.
It was the audience going to change on the issue
of immigration reform in border security because the onslaught of
illegal immigrants coming across the border into Texas and what
it's happening around the country. Seeing this debate change very
quickly with Democrats like Mayor Adams and the governor New
(26:36):
York and others. Did the audience change in Austin though,
because it's go outside, go anywhere in Texas. You can
see the difference in how the state's changing because of
so many illegal immigrants come across the border. Were they
willing to have a different dialogue this.
Speaker 3 (26:51):
Year, Not not remotely.
Speaker 4 (26:52):
Unfortunately, left wing college students live in an ivory tower.
These are the same college students that think school choice
there's no need for it, that think the Second Amendment
is unnecessary and we should disarm people that want to
see unlimited abortion on demand because they're being indoctrinated. Look,
they're nineteen twenty year olds are being indoctrinated, So on
immigration that their only view as open borders is mandated
(27:14):
by justice, and so they.
Speaker 3 (27:15):
Don't want to hear the people who are hurt.
Speaker 4 (27:18):
They don't want to hear the suffering, they don't want
to hear the death that comes from open borders because
it's inconsistent with their political narrative.
Speaker 1 (27:24):
Take a look at this video. It's interesting and.
Speaker 4 (27:27):
It's a problem that is man made. This is one
of the important things to say. So if you look
at press talking points, one of the talking points that
you see from the White House is well, the border
is just not solvable. The problem with that is that
is objectively false. When Joe Biden came into office, he
inherited the lowest rate of illegal immigration in forty five years.
(27:50):
And this crisis was caused by three specific decisions. Number one,
it was caused the first week in office. Biden immediately
halted construction of the border wall. Number two, he reinstated
the failed policy of catch and release, so that when
people are apprehended, they're given a court date sometime in
(28:10):
the future, they're let go and the vast majority of
them are never seen again. And number three, he pulled
out of the incredibly successful remain in Mexico Agreement.
Speaker 3 (28:21):
Now, what was remain in Mexico.
Speaker 4 (28:22):
Remain in Mexico was an international agreement the United States
negotiated with Mexico that said that when people cross illegally
into Mexico, typically from Central or South America, that they
would remain in Mexico while their US asylum case was preceding.
Speaker 1 (28:38):
And it worked.
Speaker 4 (28:39):
It worked incredibly well, so much so that we saw
the lowest rate of illegal immigration in forty five years.
Biden came in his first week in office, he ripped
that agreement to shreds and we right now have the
highest rate ever recorded. Seven point two million people have
crossed illegally since Biden became president, and it is utterly indefensible.
Speaker 5 (29:05):
I want to move on to one, one or two
topics before we go to audience questions.
Speaker 1 (29:09):
Here, Let's just think about how silent he was.
Speaker 2 (29:13):
It's like, let's move on again, right, don't want to
talk about the facts. And if you look at the
numbers since Joe Biden took office, you have seven point
five million illegal immigrants that have crossed the border, including
one point five million guidaways to escape border patrol and
vanished into the country.
Speaker 1 (29:29):
In Friday, there was a dump of new data.
Speaker 2 (29:33):
The Biden administration announced two hundred and thirty two, nine
hundred and seventy two illegal immigrants were encountered at the
southern border in August. That's the thirtieth straight month center
of the worst border crisis in history, and the highest
total for that month in Department of Homeland Security history.
Speaker 1 (29:52):
That is how bad it is.
Speaker 2 (29:53):
And if you take a look at the graft that
was released on Friday by the Border Patrol custom Border,
this is what it looks like. And I I want
to get your reaction to now, this is just the encounters,
and you can explain the difference for people between encounters
and godaways.
Speaker 4 (30:06):
So encounters are where border patrol agents actually encounter someone,
they stop someone, they turn them in. A got away
is they see someone and they take off, so they
don't actually apprehend them. They but they know that they
are there. They just got away. And let let's go
back to this chart because I want to walk it through.
So if you look at the August numbers, all right,
(30:28):
August of twenty twenty, there were forty nine hundred and
twenty nine encounters.
Speaker 1 (30:32):
That's a lot.
Speaker 4 (30:33):
Although it was the lowest in forty five years. One
year later, August of twenty twenty one, it goes from
forty thousand to two hundred and thirteen thousand, five hundred
and ninety three. So August of twenty twenty there were
fifty thousand and fourteen encounters. Now that's a lot, but
twenty twenty was the lowest rate of illegal immigration in.
Speaker 3 (30:52):
Forty five years.
Speaker 1 (30:52):
So is the president then?
Speaker 3 (30:54):
That would be Donald.
Speaker 1 (30:54):
Trump, just making sure everybody knows that.
Speaker 4 (30:56):
So fifty and twenty twenty one year later, August of
twenty twenty one, two hundred and nine thousand, eight hundred
and forty so it's increased four hundred percent. First year
Biden's in office August of twenty twenty two, two hundred
and four thousand and eighty seven, So it stays up
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four x where it was under Trump. And how about
August of twenty twenty three, they just released the numbers
two hundred and thirty two thousand, nine hundred and seventy two.
It's nearly five hundred percent where it was in August
of twenty twenty. And if you look at this chart,
that same ratio is there every single month. October November
(31:39):
December January Februy. All the way through you see numbers
that are about a quarter of what they are now,
a four x increase. And that's what happens when you
have open border democrats who empower the cartels and among
other things, make billions of dollars for the cartels in
human trafficking, in drug trafficking, not concerning themselves with the
(32:05):
death and suffering and misery that results from.
Speaker 2 (32:07):
There's a civil war the Democratic Party right now over
the immigration issue. We're seeing, you know, Mayor Adams come out,
the Governor of New York come out, and it's hard
to just overlook what's happening at the border. There was
an interesting Fox report that I think put it in
perspective for people, and I wanted to make sure we
played it in the video pod. And many people are
listening to this right now. They're listening on audio only.
(32:28):
You can go watch the video that we're about to
do on YouTube, all right, because we're doing this one
with video and audio. Go look at it, because this
is something that should go viral and people should see.
Speaker 1 (32:37):
Yep, take a look at this.
Speaker 5 (32:38):
I can tell you that early this morning, an eagle
pass we witnessed one of the largest mass illegal crossings
we have ever seen in the last two and a
half years of covering our southern border. We'll get right
to this video. Take a look at this stunning footage.
Border patrol sources telling us just after midnight about two thousand,
five hundred migrants crossed illegally into Eagle So you can
(33:00):
see this lengthy line of them stretching from shore to
shore in the river. This video perspective coming from the
Mexican side of the river in Piedros Negros, one of
our contacts over there shooting this video as they essentially
bum rushed Eagle Pass.
Speaker 2 (33:13):
Last night, you saw that there was another video also
in viral, and that was a train coming towards America
filled with people. And it's like the cartails that figured out, Hey,
they're not gonna stop us. In fact, the more that
we send the more likely it is to be successful.
We can just bum rush the border and this administration
will not stop us.
Speaker 4 (33:33):
Yeah, let's put these these numbers in context. So, as
we've discussed on the pod before, Mayor Adams in New
York has said that New York is City isn't a
crisis they've had one hundred and ten thousand illegal immigrants.
He says that one hundred and ten thousand illegal immigrants
is destroying New York City. I want to focus on
Eagle Pass where where if you watch that video you
(33:55):
just saw the people crossing. Eagle Pass is a small
town on the southern border on the Rio Grande River.
It has a population of about twenty eight thousand people,
so it's a little town. On one single day last week,
more than four thousand illegal immigrants came into Eagle Pass
(34:15):
on one day. Now four thousand people in town of
twenty eight thousand people is about fourteen percent of the population.
About fourteen percent of the population of the city came
illegally into Eagle Pass on one day. What would that
be in New York City? New York City has a
population of about nine million people. If fourteen percent of
(34:37):
New York City came into New York on one day,
that would be one million, two hundred and sixty thousand
people invading New York on a single day. Mayor Adams says,
one hundred and ten thousand people over two and a
half years is a crisis destroying the city. Well, how
would he feel about one million, two hundred and sixty
(34:57):
thousand people entering the city on a single day. That's
what Eagle Pass saw on one day last week. And
you know what they saw thousands more the next day
and the next day and the next day and the
next day. And these Democrats do not give a damn.
Speaker 2 (35:11):
Border Patrol Union put out a very interesting tweet and
this is what they said as they put this out.
It said, from September first through the twentieth, the Biden
administration or the release of more than one hundred thousand.
This to order the release of one hundred thousand legal
border crashers, enough to double the population of sees like Uma, Arizona.
Think about what Biden is doing to this country with
(35:32):
his out of control border policies.
Speaker 1 (35:34):
How many millions more?
Speaker 2 (35:36):
That's not like exaggeration when they say Border Patrol Union
saying how many millions more, that's a very accurate sit
because there are millions.
Speaker 4 (35:46):
Look, they're at seven and a half million, and Joe
Biden and Kamala Harris and Chuck Schumer and Alejandro may
orcus and every Senate Democrat and just about every congressional
Democrat they want seven and a half million, to go
to ten million, to go to two million, to go
to fifteen million. They want as many as possible. And
by the way, if you don't believe me that they
(36:07):
want as many as possible, take a look at the
Governor of New York, Governor Hochel back in twenty twenty one,
so just two years ago, where she is explicitly inviting
as many as possible to come to New York.
Speaker 1 (36:20):
Take a look.
Speaker 6 (36:21):
So our message the world is, send us your people,
send us those who need the cloak of comfort that
we can demonstrate as New Yorkers.
Speaker 7 (36:30):
With big hearts and open arms, and we'll provide.
Speaker 6 (36:33):
A safe have and particularly for these Afghan refugees, we're
so proud that are here. We have already seventy five
hundred Afghans living here already, and we expect to have
another eighteen hundred more. And we send a message from
day one, we'll take as many as you want to
have us have come to New York State because it's
a huge point of pride for us, and we'll support
(36:53):
them to build a whole new life.
Speaker 1 (36:55):
Open arms and big hearts. In twenty twenty one.
Speaker 4 (36:58):
And she also said will take as many as you
want to have come to New York, please come. So
that is the approved talking point of left wingers. Now
fast forward to twenty twenty three, same governor.
Speaker 3 (37:13):
Here's what she says this year.
Speaker 7 (37:15):
It certainly will, because about forty one percent of the
people in our shelters today are from Venezuela. They are
lily from around the world, West Africa, South and Central America.
They're coming from all over. But we have to let
the word out that when you come to New York,
we're not going to have more hotel rooms. We don't
have capacities. So we have to also message properly that
(37:37):
we're at our limit. If you're going to leave your country,
go somewhere else. But the smarter thing is to apply
for asylum before you leave your country, and then you'll
have a different experience when you arrive.
Speaker 2 (37:47):
If you're going to leave your country, center go somewhere else.
Down that we're at our limit. We're at our limit.
Speaker 1 (37:53):
We have no more hotel rooms for you.
Speaker 3 (37:55):
And by the way, look at the numbers.
Speaker 4 (37:56):
So in twenty twenty one, she was saying, we have
seventy five hundred afar and we expect another eighteen hundred
more Okay, So if they're talking seven eight nine thousand,
that we're good one hundred and ten thousand, Oh crap,
we're at our limit. We said eighteen hundred, we didn't
say one hundred and ten thousand. Well what do you
think about seven and.
Speaker 3 (38:16):
A half million?
Speaker 4 (38:17):
The utter hypocrisy and mind you you know, you know
what name she didn't say Joe Biden. Yeah, she didn't
say Kamala Harris, she didn't say Chuck Schumer. If New
York is at its limit, doesn't New York State have
two US Senators?
Speaker 1 (38:33):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (38:34):
Isn't one of them the Senate Majority Leader Charles Schumer.
Speaker 2 (38:37):
Who could do something on this, actually legislation or introduce legislation.
Speaker 4 (38:41):
And not only does he not introduce legislation, he votes
against anything to secure the border. He demonizes any effort
to secure the border. He embraces the open borders that
are destroying New York City, and even the Democrats who
are calling it out, they don't dare call out their
fellow Democrats. Instead, they blame as I love, you know,
(39:02):
Mayor Adams who said some madman in Texas, Greg Abbott. Yeah,
I'm still I'm still offended that he wasn't talking about me.
But the hypocrisy is massive because New York's Democrat governor
is not saying stop secure the border, stop the invasion.
She's saying, please don't send them to New York, send
them to Red States. Make other people deal with them
(39:24):
so I can continue to virtue signal. By the way,
did you notice also in that press interview it was
a little Stepford wives that that that that that both
she and the woman interviewing are wearing the exact same
white suit. Yeah, it was just kind of a little
freaky look, and I'm not sure what was going on there.
Speaker 1 (39:39):
I love everybody asked me about it.
Speaker 2 (39:40):
You really believe there's bias in the media, And I'm like, yes,
I really do.
Speaker 1 (39:43):
Like I love when I'm traveling, you get it to
all the time.
Speaker 2 (39:45):
People come up and they kind of want to antagonize, like,
there's not bias media. If you were a decent person
in the media, when she said go somewhere else, any journalist,
the initial response would been, will governor where else where?
What is this somewhere where else? Is that another state?
Are you telling me to go to another country? There
was no follow up.
Speaker 4 (40:05):
There on at all, No no, no, because there's no
response to that, go somewhere else what they mean. And
actually the Biden White House said that go to Texas.
Send them all to Texas because they hate Texas and
they figure if they invade Texas with enough people, they'll
flip it blue. And you know what, if the cities
are bankrupted, and if people die, and if children are assaulted,
(40:27):
and if they're drug overdoses, all of that is an
acceptable price for their partisan political objective.
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Speaker 2 (41:45):
You mentioned Eagle Pass, and you're starting to see some
of these smaller mayors in these smaller towns. They're finally
getting some airtime on places like CNN, and they're doing
an amazing job telling their story now because they've been
bombarded with illegal immig And again you compared it to
New York City as you did a moment ago, and
it should make you angry, But imagine being a mayor.
(42:07):
You're being invaded every twenty four hours with thirty forty
fifty six percent of your entire population with illegal immigrants
are come across and now they're draining on your economy.
They're not helping your economy, they're draining your economy, and
they're begging for help.
Speaker 1 (42:22):
And look at what he had to say on CNN.
Speaker 8 (42:24):
This is definitely a very serious situation for the city
of Eagle Pass. We're a city of about twenty eight
to thirty thousand people, and the last couple of days
we've had in excess of five thousand people cross from
Piadras Negadas, Mexico into Eagle Past, Texas. It's become a
big concern for the community. A lot of people are frustrated,
(42:44):
a lot of these people are being loose in the community,
walking around, and it's just a big concern for the
City of Eagle Pass, not only safety wise, but also
our local economy is taking a hit because because of
this crisis, we've had to shut down bridge and a
one our international bridge, which so many millions of dollars
glow through this bridge. We depend on the tolls of
(43:06):
the people that pay those bridge tolls, and it's just
an emergency situation. That is why as mayor for the
City of Eagle Pass, I decided to declare a state
of emergency for our city because We've never seen this before.
This is not normal, and we shouldn't have to be
going through a situation like this in the United States
or here in Egle Pass, Texas.
Speaker 1 (43:27):
No, you shouldn't.
Speaker 2 (43:28):
No, you shouldn't. For by the way, that was on CNN.
You just heard Aaron Burnett say no, you shouldn't.
Speaker 4 (43:34):
So I want to pull that screen up again. Don't
play the video, but just pull the screen up again.
I want to ask you what letter is missing from
the screen.
Speaker 1 (43:44):
It's a trick question. I'm ready, go ahead.
Speaker 3 (43:46):
So it says at the bottom Mayor Rolando Salinas.
Speaker 1 (43:50):
Oh the D or the R?
Speaker 3 (43:52):
And what is he?
Speaker 4 (43:53):
He's a Democrat and they didn't put the democrats. CNN
didn't want to tell you. This is a Democrat who's
calling what's going on so miraculous. There's not a little
D after his name, which they usually do. CNN knows
how to do that. Yeah, it's always up there, It
is always up there. Until they realize this is counter
to the narrative. You've got an Hispanic Democrat, Holy crap
(44:13):
in South Texas saying this is an emergency.
Speaker 3 (44:16):
This is not normal. No, no, no, no, we can't have
that Let's have people assume he's a Republican.
Speaker 1 (44:22):
Yeah, let's make sure they don't think he's a Democrat.
Speaker 4 (44:25):
Okay, Look South Texas, most of the elected officials are Democrats,
and I cannot tell you how many of them have
said if my party nationally supports open borders, I can't
be a part of that because you cannot see what
is happening on the border and defend it. Nobody does.
There is nobody who sees it day to day in
(44:46):
reality and says this is a good outcome, this is
a humane outcome.
Speaker 3 (44:50):
It is indefensible.
Speaker 4 (44:52):
It's an emergency, and it's a man made emergency that
Joe Biden the Democrats want to have happen, and they
want to make it worse to tomorrow. And you know
they do because the policies they're following are designed to
make it worse tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (45:07):
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Center.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
Nice to be with you in person. I love it
when we get to do this once a week. You
had a very interesting weekend, and I think this conversation
what people are about to see is very foreshadowing of
the presidential election and the conversation that many Americans are
going to be having. There's this thing called Tripfest down
in Austin. It's a bunch of lefties in a room,
a bunch of young people.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
I love what I.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
Get to watch you do these things because I know
how much you enjoy it. But there was real dialogue
and a real conversation that's important for the country. And
one of the things about this was you got to
talk about issues like school choice, which was incredible.
Speaker 3 (00:36):
Well that's right.
Speaker 4 (00:36):
So on Saturday, I was up in Austin and the
event Tripfest they do every year. It's hosted by the
Texas Tribune, which is a Texas political and news organization,
and they have lots of different elected officials. They have
predominantly Democrats. They get media, they get reporters from all
over the country.
Speaker 3 (00:53):
National media comes down.
Speaker 4 (00:55):
They've had Hillary Clinton down there, they had they had
Joe Manchin this year.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
They bring in it's sort of a nickname.
Speaker 4 (01:04):
The Weekend has his Libfest instead of trip Fest because
it's accurate. It skews heavily left, and most of the
attendees are either left wing reporters or their UT students
who lean heavily left. And so this event was an
hour long where I'm up on stage being interviewed by
(01:26):
a reporter, Patrick Fetech, who's their political reporter, very smart,
capable guy. I know Patrick well, and so he interviewed
me for forty five minutes and then the audience said
fifteen minutes of questions. And as I said, I've done
it year after year after year, and the crowd are
always these like woke lefties.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
From UT know everything who.
Speaker 4 (01:50):
Are are frankly horrified to see someone right a center.
Speaker 3 (01:55):
But it gives you a chance.
Speaker 4 (01:57):
And actually, while I was there, I took the point
of thanking them, the folks who were booing me, to say.
Speaker 3 (02:04):
Hey, listen, thank you for coming. Yeah. You know, I
talked about.
Speaker 4 (02:08):
At the outset how we don't talk to each other enough,
how we do too much screaming and yelling, and the
right talks to the right and the left talks to
the left. And in fact I told them I said,
all right, it'll kill you to do this, but subscribe
to the podcast. You ought to actually listen to a
view that that that you don't ordinarily hear. But it
was it was a good chance to talk about a
(02:29):
lot of issues. And here's the first where I brought
up school choice. And they all had their minds made
up to begin with. But here's the exchange. I think
this year is the best opportunity of your in my
lifetime for the state legislature to pass a real and
serious school choice program to provide every child in Texas
(02:51):
with with hope and access to an excellent education. Texas
unfortunately lags behind on school choice. I'm a passionate defender
of school choice. I've spent thirty years fighting for school choice.
I think it is the civil rights issue of the
twenty first century. And you know, people who have gotten
(03:12):
a good education can laugh at that. But you know,
it's interesting if you go into the inner cities and
you ask African American parents, you ask Hispanic parents, do.
Speaker 3 (03:19):
They support school choice?
Speaker 4 (03:20):
Sixty seventy eighty percent of them support it. So I
get in Austin when folks have money and they feel
quite comfortable that they can oppost choice.
Speaker 3 (03:29):
Well, my view is, don't trap kids.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
I gotta say, I really do believe school choice is
an issue that is changing, and I think a lot
of it is because of COVID, but especially among African
American Hispanic Americans, single mothers.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
Yes, they want their kids out of these.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
Failing schools, and they see the damage that these teachers
are doing their kids' future, and they saw it at home.
During the time of COVID, the lid came off. I
don't think you put this GUNI back in this bottle.
Speaker 4 (03:56):
Look, I agree. I think the momentum behind choice is mass.
If you're seeing growing numbers, you're seeing state after state
after state across the country passing school choice programs. For me,
it's been an issue that it's been a thirty year passion.
I think it is the single most important domestic issue
in this country. Education is the gateway. It's antecedent to
(04:17):
every other social problem. So you think about it, whether
you're dealing with poverty or crime, or health.
Speaker 3 (04:24):
Care issues or substance abuse.
Speaker 4 (04:26):
If kids get an education, many of those problems largely
take care of themselves. On the other hand, if kids
don't get a good education, if they drop out, if
they don't learn to read and write. We know that
those problems crime and poverty, and healthcare issues and substance
abuse issues, they follow like night follows day, and so
(04:49):
allowing kids to be trapped in failing schools is consigning
them to be shut out of the American dream.
Speaker 3 (04:56):
And it's There are a lot of issues in public life.
Speaker 4 (05:00):
You take an issue like affirmative action, you take an
issue like abortion, where people of good faith can disagree.
You and I have strong views on both of those topics,
but I understand the people who disagree with us. I
understand how someone can look at that same issue and
come to a different conclusion. And there are real arguments
(05:20):
on both sides of that issue. School choice is the
only issue I know of in public policy on which
there is literally not a good argument on the other side.
The only argument is one of venal self interests. The
only argument is the teachers' unions bingo, who for whom
Democrat politicians are bought and paid for, and they view
(05:43):
it as maintaining power. Because look a point I make
all the time, the rich and middle class.
Speaker 3 (05:49):
Have always had school choice.
Speaker 4 (05:50):
If you're at a wealthy jurisdiction. An example I use.
Let's say you live in Bethesda, Maryland. All right, so Bethesda,
Maryland is a very nice rink, which she shi neighborhood
outside of Washington.
Speaker 3 (06:03):
If the Bethesda public.
Speaker 4 (06:05):
Schools had a fifty percent dropout rate, if among those
kids who remained in school, only thirty percent graduated reading
at grade level, if you had drug dealers roaming the
hallways and you had little girls getting sexually assaulted in
the bathrooms, the Bethesda public schools would be empty. Why
(06:28):
because the parents there have money, and so they would
do one of two things. They would either move, they'd
move to another home in a different district that had
a better public school. Or because they have the resources,
they would pay tuition to send their kid to a
private school. But they would not send their child to
a school that was failing. What happens is low income parents,
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often in the inner city, are trapped. They're facing schools
exactly what I just described, but if they're not rich,
they don't have the option to change it. And you
see democrats who are are blocking children. And it is
predominantly African American and Hispanic children in inner cities who
are trapped in these failing schools. And by the way,
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the Democrats like to like to consider themselves the champions
for the minority community, and on the single most important
civil rights issue in the country, which is giving those
kids a chance at the American dream, the Democrats are
adamantly opposed. And you listen to all of those left
wingers at ut laughing, Oh, how funny little children that
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can't get an education, ha ha. And there's an arrogance
on the left that I think is really disturbing.
Speaker 1 (07:39):
What is your.
Speaker 2 (07:40):
Advice for those that are running in this presidential election
on this issue, because when I when I worked in
the Bush campaign of four, there was this was a
third rail issue.
Speaker 1 (07:50):
It was a do not touch issue. It was leave
it alone. It was that's fascinating it. It was a
grand debate.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
It was two debates that we had on that campaign,
so secure reform, don't talk about it till after we win.
And then the second one was school choice in school vouchers.
It was like, we don't go there, that's third rail.
And I remember fighting, going, this is something we should
take to the people because people that are stuck in
failing schools. I was from Memphis, had a different perspective.
Majority of schools there. Public schools are failing schools year
after year. They're failing schools like this. You guys don't understand.
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If you take this idea to the community that has
it and needs it, they will side with you.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
You just have to explain it.
Speaker 2 (08:26):
Are we winning now where this is no longer that
fear of that third rail. Don't touch it, don't mention it.
Democrats will beat you over the head with it.
Speaker 4 (08:34):
So I got to say, I'm you and I have
never talked about this topic before, so I didn't know
that story. You were on the two thousand and four
Bush Cheney reelect. I was on the two thousand campaign,
the first Bush Cheney campaign, and my job was domestic
policy advisor.
Speaker 3 (08:49):
I was twenty eight twenty nine years old. I was
a young lawyer, and.
Speaker 4 (08:53):
I essentially covered any issue that touched on law, and
so education and school choice was not in my portfolio,
but I cared about it passionately, and so on the
two thousand campaign, I actually wrote a memo. I wrote
a memo to Karl Robe and Josh Bolden, all the
senior people on the campaign, arguing and arguing that George W.
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Bush should have come out and promised scholarships for one
million kids across the country to go to any school
of their choice.
Speaker 3 (09:20):
Lean in and own school choice. And I put the
polling data.
Speaker 4 (09:24):
I put the polling data that showed that African Americans
and Hispanics, even back then, that was twenty three years ago,
were consistently sixty seventy eighty percent in support a school choice.
They also at the time ranked education is their number
one issue, as did as did white parents, but Black
parents and Hispanic parents, they all put education at their
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top issue in ninety nine and two thousand and I said, look,
you've got the issue that is the top issue for
minority parents. They have an overwhelming view, and the Democrat
Party has bought and paid for by the teachers union,
so they are adamantly fighting them. And then I ran
a series of electoral hypotheticals. Sadly, I knew I was
not going to persuade the campaign on the merits we
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should have but but but I didn't even bother to
make that argument. I just tried to make a simple
political argument. I ran the numbers, looking at the last
three presidential races, and I ran a couple of hypotheticals.
I said, what would have happened if the Republican nominee
got five percent more, ten percent more, or fifteen percent
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more of the black and Hispanic vote. So I didn't
assume suddenly you get fifty percent more. I ran three
reasonable scenarios five percent more, ten and fifteen. The one
that really stood out to my mind was nineteen ninety
six Bob Dole versus Bill Clinton. If Bob Dole had
gotten fifteen percent more of the black and Hispanic vote,
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he would have won an additional ninety six electoral votes.
Speaker 3 (10:55):
Wow, it was stunning.
Speaker 4 (10:57):
And I still remember that debate when Bob Dole was
asked at education and his answer he said the word
school choice. But they were so painful. I remember screaming
at the television. I was so mad at this old
man who knew nothing about choice and didn't care about it,
and was reading a talking point that he didn't give
a flip about.
Speaker 3 (11:18):
And it was horrible.
Speaker 4 (11:21):
Well, this memo that I submitted, it got filed in
the circular file because the education advisors on that campaign
very much were sympathetic to the blob, to the teachers'
unions and the education bureaucracy, and so I was never
able to get them to embrace choice. And actually the
memo I wrote was co signed. I wrote it, but
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I asked the chief Economic Advisor who was on the
policy staff.
Speaker 3 (11:48):
He signed it. I asked the Chief Education Advisor, who
was in the policy staff. She signed it. Wow.
Speaker 4 (11:53):
I asked the chief advisor on kind of urban and
inner city issues.
Speaker 3 (11:58):
He signed it. And frankly, I could've gotten every.
Speaker 4 (12:00):
Single policy staffer they're about a dozen of us, to
sign it if I had asked them, I think, but
I didn't want. I thought that was sort of piling
on and to get. But the difference was we were
all twenty something or thirty something, and for the twenty
somethings and thirty somethings, we saw it as massively important.
The senior people on the campaign were forty somethings and
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fifty somethings, and they were not interested in taking it
on there.
Speaker 3 (12:26):
And they didn't Yeah, the same thing, you know.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
Four It was don't go there, great idea, great idea,
young guys, and we're not gonna do it.
Speaker 1 (12:33):
We don't touch it. And I think it's inching now
in this in this cycle.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
How This could change Republican Party for the better for
decades to come.
Speaker 4 (12:42):
So Ben, something I told Heidi before I first ran
for Senate in twenty twelve, I said, if when I
am dead and buried, my tombstone says Ted played a
meaningful part in bringing about school choice to every child
in Texas and every child to America, I said, I
will die a happy man. I mean, I mean that
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it is difficult to think of a more meaningful and
powerful legacy than giving kids hope and opportunity and a
real chance to achieve a better life for themselves and
their kids in the future.
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talked about something else that is really important at this event,
and that was the Second Amendment. The Second Amendment is
an issue that some don't like to touch. I love
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that you love to talk about it because it's something
you care about and you're willing to have a grand debate.
And it got a little feisty, especially with the audience.
I want people to see what you had to.
Speaker 4 (14:46):
Say this is the basic divide. Every time there's a
mass shooting, you see elected Democrats. Their approach is they
want to take away the Second Amendment rights of law
abiding citizens. Here's the pronounce See this is what I mean.
We just yell at each other. This is not that
there is zero evidence that doing so, There is zero
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evidence that doing so protects any lives. And in fact,
if you look nationally, if you look at the jurisdictions
with the strictest gun control laws, almost without exception, they
have among the highest murder rates and among the highest
crime rates. The city of Chicago has some of the
toughest gun control laws in the country, and it consistently
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has horrible murder rates. Because what happens if you pass
a law that disarms law abiding citizens. Law abiding citizens,
by definition, they follow the law. The criminals don't, and
so what ends up happening is the criminals target the
law abiding citizens. So your question, there are proposals that say, listen,
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we want to raise the age to buy a firearm
to age twenty one. Well, you know what, I think
that a nineteen or twenty year old single mom living
in the inner city and huge Dallas, going to work
in a dangerous neighborhood has a right to protect yourself
as a right under the Second Amendment, to protect yourself
from someone who would commit violence against her.
Speaker 3 (16:11):
And I'll give a stat again.
Speaker 4 (16:12):
Look, this is an audience who I think has their
mind made up and doesn't want to hear actual data.
Speaker 3 (16:18):
But let me give you. Let me give you data.
Speaker 4 (16:20):
From a source that I suspect you would agree with
the Obama White House. You're gonna agree that's not a
right wing source. Here's what the Obama White House put out.
They said, every year, firearms are used defensively to stop
a crime, to stop a murder, to stop a rape,
between five hundred thousand and a million times a year
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every year in the United States of America. That is
a very simple reality. And so when you disarm people,
when you take that nineteen year old single mom and
you say you can no longer defend yourself, the data
show you see crime rates go up, you see murder
rates go up, you see sexual assault rates go up.
(17:03):
And if you want to stop those crimes, and listen,
I believe the people here want to stop those crimes.
But if you want to stop them, you should look
to the data of what actually works, and what works
is putting the criminals in jail.
Speaker 3 (17:16):
And I'll point out and.
Speaker 4 (17:17):
We got to move on to the next question, but
hold on a second. This is deeply connected. This is
deeply connected with the policies Democrats have championed defunding the
police and also George Soros prosecutors who release violent criminals.
Because the same people who are all worked up about
gun control are also by and large supporting releasing criminals
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from jail. And we see that pattern over and over
and over again and.
Speaker 3 (17:44):
When it happens. So I've sat down with.
Speaker 4 (17:47):
Texas police chiefs who said to me, we know who
the trigger pullers are, we know who the criminals are.
We want to arrest them, and we can't because they
keep getting let go and they keep committee more murders.
If you want to stop crime, go after the criminals,
not law abiding citizens.
Speaker 1 (18:05):
Let's talk about it. Another big issue. We got to
move on. You're making too much sense over your sinner.
We gotta with some mis move But we heard your answer.
Speaker 2 (18:15):
I can't believe that the audience couldn't even clap in
a basic idea that a single mother who's nineteen the
inner city should be able to defend yourself against someone
bring in your home, trying to kill a raper, whatever
it may be, not a clap in the room.
Speaker 3 (18:27):
That don't look Rich Liberals like school choice. If you're
a rich liberal, you live in a neighborhood where they haven't.
Speaker 4 (18:36):
Abolished the police, You've got lots of police officers protecting
your home. You know, Actually, if you're wealthy enough, the
second Amendment is not necessarily life or death because you're
able to outsource protection. You're able to live in an
environment where you're not living next door to a crack
house at all likelihood. If you're low income, if you're
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in the inner city, if you're a single, you're facing
the very real prospect of if you're taking the subway
at home at night, or the bus at home at night,
at being robbed at gunpoint, at being assaulted, and you
often don't have a choice.
Speaker 3 (19:15):
You don't have another option.
Speaker 4 (19:17):
You can't move to a safer place where the criminals
are not next to you. And liberals talk about compassion enormously,
but when you actually point out that the people who
are hurt by their policies are the most vulnerable, they
get very angry. They do not like you're not allowed
to defend an African American single mom in the inner
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city because they're in charge of her, and damn it,
if they disarmor and she gets killed, it was good
for it made them feel good to disarm her, even
though they also championed the policy that released the murderer
who killed her. They take no responsibility. You heard the
crowd howling when I brought up George Soros prosecutors. So
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they all support, but they all contribute.
Speaker 2 (20:03):
They laugh, they act like you're making it up. The
data shows that you're not.
Speaker 4 (20:07):
The numbers are staggering. George Soros has spent literally millions
of dollars electing DA's who let violent criminals out of
jail over and over and over again. And they commit
crimes over and over and over again. But you know what,
they generally don't commit crimes against rich people living in rich,
white liberal neighborhoods where they say, oh, I feel so
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good emptying the prisons. Isn't that nice? No, it's the
inner cities. It's the people, and it's predominantly African Americans
and Hispanics whose lives are lost. All the people with
the yard signs out front of their house that say
black lives matter apparently don't really give a damn about
black lives because when you point out that more African
Americans are being murdered because of the left wing policies
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they support, undermining police officers and letting violent criminals go,
they react like that crowd. They boo you just they
don't want to hear it.
Speaker 2 (20:58):
Just two weeks ago, there's an African American young way
there was a soros DA elected because SROs backed him
and gave them the money, and she was shot. It
was four or five times by her ex She was
in surgery in critical condition, and the man who they
caught who shut her, had already gotten out of jail
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because of an activist soros DA who said bail reform,
Oh I can't keep you here, you don't have a
lot of money. He was out free in the city
while that woman was still in surgery fighting for her life.
And that's the source day and they laugh about that. Yeah,
it's amazing. There's also another issue that it's interesting to
see how abortion plays in election cycles. There seems to
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be a real taste for revenge right now from Democrats
because of the overturning of Roe v. Wade and going
back to the States. There seems to be this is
a presidential election year issue. They want it to be
inspiring for women and feminists and angry people on the
left to come out and get revenge because they say
how their Republicans protect the life of the unborn. You
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talked about some of the ways are trying to get
back Roe v. Wade and try to put back these
laws into place, and that also had a very interesting
reaction from the crowd.
Speaker 4 (22:09):
Take a look, so twice the Democrats have taken up
a bill and it's a bill they said was to
recodify ROW.
Speaker 1 (22:18):
I get it. It's you're saying it's not it's not
plausible politically, right.
Speaker 3 (22:20):
Well, but let me go a little further.
Speaker 4 (22:23):
So the Democrats said the bill was was to codify Row.
And what's interesting that actually is poll tested, that polls
pretty well, but it is not in fact what the
bill would do. The bill that was voted on in
the Senate is a bill that would effectively strike down
every single state restriction on abortion, so it would legalize
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abortion up until the moment of birth. It would legalize
partial birth abortion.
Speaker 1 (22:48):
Democrats disputed.
Speaker 4 (22:50):
It would it would strike down parental notification and parental consent.
You're saying, but I want to say something that's important
to understand. If you look at national polling, that view
is an extreme and radical view. Nine percent of Americans
agree with that view, and every single Senate Democrat voted
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for that view. And so the position of Washington Democrats
is wildly out of step with where the American people are.
Speaker 2 (23:20):
I mean, Sier, you listen to the status, You listen
to what you said.
Speaker 1 (23:23):
He didn't want to hear it.
Speaker 2 (23:25):
The audience doesn't want to hear it, and they don't
want to hear what's actually in the bill that you
just describe because it doesn't fit their narrative, even though
it's not the truth.
Speaker 4 (23:33):
They just yell it's not true. No, no, no, it's
not true. And yet it is the view over and
over again of elected Democrats. And the hate when you
pointed out. Reporters hate when you pointed out. Activists hate
when you pointed out because Republicans are supposed to be
on the defensive. They're supposed to run away and not
be willing to discuss the issue.
Speaker 3 (23:51):
And what I said earlier at Tripfest I said.
Speaker 4 (23:55):
Listen, abortion, people disagree, people disagree strongly, and the Supreme
Court was right in overturning Row and leaving the issue
to the democratically elected legislature so that we can have
the answer to that question about what the rules should
be decided by the democrat process, not by nine unelected
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lawyers in black robes. And again, left wing activists don't
like to hear it. They wanted to create their view
and force it on people whether they like it or not,
because they've got a real problem with democracy.
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I wanted to get your take because I wanted to
see what the audience is gonna do. I was really
intrigued as I was watching this online as you were there.
It was the audience going to change on the issue
of immigration reform in border security because the onslaught of
illegal immigrants coming across the border into Texas and what
it's happening around the country. Seeing this debate change very
quickly with Democrats like Mayor Adams and the governor New
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York and others. Did the audience change in Austin though,
because it's go outside, go anywhere in Texas. You can
see the difference in how the state's changing because of
so many illegal immigrants come across the border. Were they
willing to have a different dialogue this.
Speaker 3 (26:51):
Year, Not not remotely.
Speaker 4 (26:52):
Unfortunately, left wing college students live in an ivory tower.
These are the same college students that think school choice
there's no need for it, that think the Second Amendment
is unnecessary and we should disarm people that want to
see unlimited abortion on demand because they're being indoctrinated. Look,
they're nineteen twenty year olds are being indoctrinated, So on
immigration that their only view as open borders is mandated
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by justice, and so they.
Speaker 3 (27:15):
Don't want to hear the people who are hurt.
Speaker 4 (27:18):
They don't want to hear the suffering, they don't want
to hear the death that comes from open borders because
it's inconsistent with their political narrative.
Speaker 1 (27:24):
Take a look at this video. It's interesting and.
Speaker 4 (27:27):
It's a problem that is man made. This is one
of the important things to say. So if you look
at press talking points, one of the talking points that
you see from the White House is well, the border
is just not solvable. The problem with that is that
is objectively false. When Joe Biden came into office, he
inherited the lowest rate of illegal immigration in forty five years.
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And this crisis was caused by three specific decisions. Number one,
it was caused the first week in office. Biden immediately
halted construction of the border wall. Number two, he reinstated
the failed policy of catch and release, so that when
people are apprehended, they're given a court date sometime in
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the future, they're let go and the vast majority of
them are never seen again. And number three, he pulled
out of the incredibly successful remain in Mexico Agreement.
Speaker 3 (28:21):
Now, what was remain in Mexico.
Speaker 4 (28:22):
Remain in Mexico was an international agreement the United States
negotiated with Mexico that said that when people cross illegally
into Mexico, typically from Central or South America, that they
would remain in Mexico while their US asylum case was preceding.
Speaker 1 (28:38):
And it worked.
Speaker 4 (28:39):
It worked incredibly well, so much so that we saw
the lowest rate of illegal immigration in forty five years.
Biden came in his first week in office, he ripped
that agreement to shreds and we right now have the
highest rate ever recorded. Seven point two million people have
crossed illegally since Biden became president, and it is utterly indefensible.
Speaker 5 (29:05):
I want to move on to one, one or two
topics before we go to audience questions.
Speaker 1 (29:09):
Here, Let's just think about how silent he was.
Speaker 2 (29:13):
It's like, let's move on again, right, don't want to
talk about the facts. And if you look at the
numbers since Joe Biden took office, you have seven point
five million illegal immigrants that have crossed the border, including
one point five million guidaways to escape border patrol and
vanished into the country.
Speaker 1 (29:29):
In Friday, there was a dump of new data.
Speaker 2 (29:33):
The Biden administration announced two hundred and thirty two, nine
hundred and seventy two illegal immigrants were encountered at the
southern border in August. That's the thirtieth straight month center
of the worst border crisis in history, and the highest
total for that month in Department of Homeland Security history.
Speaker 1 (29:52):
That is how bad it is.
Speaker 2 (29:53):
And if you take a look at the graft that
was released on Friday by the Border Patrol custom Border,
this is what it looks like. And I I want
to get your reaction to now, this is just the encounters,
and you can explain the difference for people between encounters
and godaways.
Speaker 4 (30:06):
So encounters are where border patrol agents actually encounter someone,
they stop someone, they turn them in. A got away
is they see someone and they take off, so they
don't actually apprehend them. They but they know that they
are there. They just got away. And let let's go
back to this chart because I want to walk it through.
So if you look at the August numbers, all right,
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August of twenty twenty, there were forty nine hundred and
twenty nine encounters.
Speaker 1 (30:32):
That's a lot.
Speaker 4 (30:33):
Although it was the lowest in forty five years. One
year later, August of twenty twenty one, it goes from
forty thousand to two hundred and thirteen thousand, five hundred
and ninety three. So August of twenty twenty there were
fifty thousand and fourteen encounters. Now that's a lot, but
twenty twenty was the lowest rate of illegal immigration in.
Speaker 3 (30:52):
Forty five years.
Speaker 1 (30:52):
So is the president then?
Speaker 3 (30:54):
That would be Donald.
Speaker 1 (30:54):
Trump, just making sure everybody knows that.
Speaker 4 (30:56):
So fifty and twenty twenty one year later, August of
twenty twenty one, two hundred and nine thousand, eight hundred
and forty so it's increased four hundred percent. First year
Biden's in office August of twenty twenty two, two hundred
and four thousand and eighty seven, So it stays up
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four x where it was under Trump. And how about
August of twenty twenty three, they just released the numbers
two hundred and thirty two thousand, nine hundred and seventy two.
It's nearly five hundred percent where it was in August
of twenty twenty. And if you look at this chart,
that same ratio is there every single month. October November
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December January Februy. All the way through you see numbers
that are about a quarter of what they are now,
a four x increase. And that's what happens when you
have open border democrats who empower the cartels and among
other things, make billions of dollars for the cartels in
human trafficking, in drug trafficking, not concerning themselves with the
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death and suffering and misery that results from.
Speaker 2 (32:07):
There's a civil war the Democratic Party right now over
the immigration issue. We're seeing, you know, Mayor Adams come out,
the Governor of New York come out, and it's hard
to just overlook what's happening at the border. There was
an interesting Fox report that I think put it in
perspective for people, and I wanted to make sure we
played it in the video pod. And many people are
listening to this right now. They're listening on audio only.
(32:28):
You can go watch the video that we're about to
do on YouTube, all right, because we're doing this one
with video and audio. Go look at it, because this
is something that should go viral and people should see.
Speaker 1 (32:37):
Yep, take a look at this.
Speaker 5 (32:38):
I can tell you that early this morning, an eagle
pass we witnessed one of the largest mass illegal crossings
we have ever seen in the last two and a
half years of covering our southern border. We'll get right
to this video. Take a look at this stunning footage.
Border patrol sources telling us just after midnight about two thousand,
five hundred migrants crossed illegally into Eagle So you can
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see this lengthy line of them stretching from shore to
shore in the river. This video perspective coming from the
Mexican side of the river in Piedros Negros, one of
our contacts over there shooting this video as they essentially
bum rushed Eagle Pass.
Speaker 2 (33:13):
Last night, you saw that there was another video also
in viral, and that was a train coming towards America
filled with people. And it's like the cartails that figured out, Hey,
they're not gonna stop us. In fact, the more that
we send the more likely it is to be successful.
We can just bum rush the border and this administration
will not stop us.
Speaker 4 (33:33):
Yeah, let's put these these numbers in context. So, as
we've discussed on the pod before, Mayor Adams in New
York has said that New York is City isn't a
crisis they've had one hundred and ten thousand illegal immigrants.
He says that one hundred and ten thousand illegal immigrants
is destroying New York City. I want to focus on
Eagle Pass where where if you watch that video you
(33:55):
just saw the people crossing. Eagle Pass is a small
town on the southern border on the Rio Grande River.
It has a population of about twenty eight thousand people,
so it's a little town. On one single day last week,
more than four thousand illegal immigrants came into Eagle Pass
(34:15):
on one day. Now four thousand people in town of
twenty eight thousand people is about fourteen percent of the population.
About fourteen percent of the population of the city came
illegally into Eagle Pass on one day. What would that
be in New York City? New York City has a
population of about nine million people. If fourteen percent of
(34:37):
New York City came into New York on one day,
that would be one million, two hundred and sixty thousand
people invading New York on a single day. Mayor Adams says,
one hundred and ten thousand people over two and a
half years is a crisis destroying the city. Well, how
would he feel about one million, two hundred and sixty
(34:57):
thousand people entering the city on a single day. That's
what Eagle Pass saw on one day last week. And
you know what they saw thousands more the next day
and the next day and the next day and the
next day. And these Democrats do not give a damn.
Speaker 2 (35:11):
Border Patrol Union put out a very interesting tweet and
this is what they said as they put this out.
It said, from September first through the twentieth, the Biden
administration or the release of more than one hundred thousand.
This to order the release of one hundred thousand legal
border crashers, enough to double the population of sees like Uma, Arizona.
Think about what Biden is doing to this country with
(35:32):
his out of control border policies.
Speaker 1 (35:34):
How many millions more?
Speaker 2 (35:36):
That's not like exaggeration when they say Border Patrol Union
saying how many millions more, that's a very accurate sit
because there are millions.
Speaker 4 (35:46):
Look, they're at seven and a half million, and Joe
Biden and Kamala Harris and Chuck Schumer and Alejandro may
orcus and every Senate Democrat and just about every congressional
Democrat they want seven and a half million, to go
to ten million, to go to two million, to go
to fifteen million. They want as many as possible. And
by the way, if you don't believe me that they
(36:07):
want as many as possible, take a look at the
Governor of New York, Governor Hochel back in twenty twenty one,
so just two years ago, where she is explicitly inviting
as many as possible to come to New York.
Speaker 1 (36:20):
Take a look.
Speaker 6 (36:21):
So our message the world is, send us your people,
send us those who need the cloak of comfort that
we can demonstrate as New Yorkers.
Speaker 7 (36:30):
With big hearts and open arms, and we'll provide.
Speaker 6 (36:33):
A safe have and particularly for these Afghan refugees, we're
so proud that are here. We have already seventy five
hundred Afghans living here already, and we expect to have
another eighteen hundred more. And we send a message from
day one, we'll take as many as you want to
have us have come to New York State because it's
a huge point of pride for us, and we'll support
(36:53):
them to build a whole new life.
Speaker 1 (36:55):
Open arms and big hearts. In twenty twenty one.
Speaker 4 (36:58):
And she also said will take as many as you
want to have come to New York, please come. So
that is the approved talking point of left wingers. Now
fast forward to twenty twenty three, same governor.
Speaker 3 (37:13):
Here's what she says this year.
Speaker 7 (37:15):
It certainly will, because about forty one percent of the
people in our shelters today are from Venezuela. They are
lily from around the world, West Africa, South and Central America.
They're coming from all over. But we have to let
the word out that when you come to New York,
we're not going to have more hotel rooms. We don't
have capacities. So we have to also message properly that
(37:37):
we're at our limit. If you're going to leave your country,
go somewhere else. But the smarter thing is to apply
for asylum before you leave your country, and then you'll
have a different experience when you arrive.
Speaker 2 (37:47):
If you're going to leave your country, center go somewhere else.
Down that we're at our limit. We're at our limit.
Speaker 1 (37:53):
We have no more hotel rooms for you.
Speaker 3 (37:55):
And by the way, look at the numbers.
Speaker 4 (37:56):
So in twenty twenty one, she was saying, we have
seventy five hundred afar and we expect another eighteen hundred
more Okay, So if they're talking seven eight nine thousand,
that we're good one hundred and ten thousand, Oh crap,
we're at our limit. We said eighteen hundred, we didn't
say one hundred and ten thousand. Well what do you
think about seven and.
Speaker 3 (38:16):
A half million?
Speaker 4 (38:17):
The utter hypocrisy and mind you you know, you know
what name she didn't say Joe Biden. Yeah, she didn't
say Kamala Harris, she didn't say Chuck Schumer. If New
York is at its limit, doesn't New York State have
two US Senators?
Speaker 1 (38:33):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (38:34):
Isn't one of them the Senate Majority Leader Charles Schumer.
Speaker 2 (38:37):
Who could do something on this, actually legislation or introduce legislation.
Speaker 4 (38:41):
And not only does he not introduce legislation, he votes
against anything to secure the border. He demonizes any effort
to secure the border. He embraces the open borders that
are destroying New York City, and even the Democrats who
are calling it out, they don't dare call out their
fellow Democrats. Instead, they blame as I love, you know,
(39:02):
Mayor Adams who said some madman in Texas, Greg Abbott. Yeah,
I'm still I'm still offended that he wasn't talking about me.
But the hypocrisy is massive because New York's Democrat governor
is not saying stop secure the border, stop the invasion.
She's saying, please don't send them to New York, send
them to Red States. Make other people deal with them
(39:24):
so I can continue to virtue signal. By the way,
did you notice also in that press interview it was
a little Stepford wives that that that that that both
she and the woman interviewing are wearing the exact same
white suit. Yeah, it was just kind of a little
freaky look, and I'm not sure what was going on there.
Speaker 1 (39:39):
I love everybody asked me about it.
Speaker 2 (39:40):
You really believe there's bias in the media, And I'm like, yes,
I really do.
Speaker 1 (39:43):
Like I love when I'm traveling, you get it to
all the time.
Speaker 2 (39:45):
People come up and they kind of want to antagonize, like,
there's not bias media. If you were a decent person
in the media, when she said go somewhere else, any journalist,
the initial response would been, will governor where else where?
What is this somewhere where else? Is that another state?
Are you telling me to go to another country? There
was no follow up.
Speaker 4 (40:05):
There on at all, No no, no, because there's no
response to that, go somewhere else what they mean. And
actually the Biden White House said that go to Texas.
Send them all to Texas because they hate Texas and
they figure if they invade Texas with enough people, they'll
flip it blue. And you know what, if the cities
are bankrupted, and if people die, and if children are assaulted,
(40:27):
and if they're drug overdoses, all of that is an
acceptable price for their partisan political objective.
Speaker 2 (40:33):
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Speaker 2 (41:45):
You mentioned Eagle Pass, and you're starting to see some
of these smaller mayors in these smaller towns. They're finally
getting some airtime on places like CNN, and they're doing
an amazing job telling their story now because they've been
bombarded with illegal immig And again you compared it to
New York City as you did a moment ago, and
it should make you angry, But imagine being a mayor.
(42:07):
You're being invaded every twenty four hours with thirty forty
fifty six percent of your entire population with illegal immigrants
are come across and now they're draining on your economy.
They're not helping your economy, they're draining your economy, and
they're begging for help.
Speaker 1 (42:22):
And look at what he had to say on CNN.
Speaker 8 (42:24):
This is definitely a very serious situation for the city
of Eagle Pass. We're a city of about twenty eight
to thirty thousand people, and the last couple of days
we've had in excess of five thousand people cross from
Piadras Negadas, Mexico into Eagle Past, Texas. It's become a
big concern for the community. A lot of people are frustrated,
(42:44):
a lot of these people are being loose in the community,
walking around, and it's just a big concern for the
City of Eagle Pass, not only safety wise, but also
our local economy is taking a hit because because of
this crisis, we've had to shut down bridge and a
one our international bridge, which so many millions of dollars
glow through this bridge. We depend on the tolls of
(43:06):
the people that pay those bridge tolls, and it's just
an emergency situation. That is why as mayor for the
City of Eagle Pass, I decided to declare a state
of emergency for our city because We've never seen this before.
This is not normal, and we shouldn't have to be
going through a situation like this in the United States
or here in Egle Pass, Texas.
Speaker 1 (43:27):
No, you shouldn't.
Speaker 2 (43:28):
No, you shouldn't. For by the way, that was on CNN.
You just heard Aaron Burnett say no, you shouldn't.
Speaker 4 (43:34):
So I want to pull that screen up again. Don't
play the video, but just pull the screen up again.
I want to ask you what letter is missing from
the screen.
Speaker 1 (43:44):
It's a trick question. I'm ready, go ahead.
Speaker 3 (43:46):
So it says at the bottom Mayor Rolando Salinas.
Speaker 1 (43:50):
Oh the D or the R?
Speaker 3 (43:52):
And what is he?
Speaker 4 (43:53):
He's a Democrat and they didn't put the democrats. CNN
didn't want to tell you. This is a Democrat who's
calling what's going on so miraculous. There's not a little
D after his name, which they usually do. CNN knows
how to do that. Yeah, it's always up there, It
is always up there. Until they realize this is counter
to the narrative. You've got an Hispanic Democrat, Holy crap
(44:13):
in South Texas saying this is an emergency.
Speaker 3 (44:16):
This is not normal. No, no, no, no, we can't have
that Let's have people assume he's a Republican.
Speaker 1 (44:22):
Yeah, let's make sure they don't think he's a Democrat.
Speaker 4 (44:25):
Okay, Look South Texas, most of the elected officials are Democrats,
and I cannot tell you how many of them have
said if my party nationally supports open borders, I can't
be a part of that because you cannot see what
is happening on the border and defend it. Nobody does.
There is nobody who sees it day to day in
(44:46):
reality and says this is a good outcome, this is
a humane outcome.
Speaker 3 (44:50):
It is indefensible.
Speaker 4 (44:52):
It's an emergency, and it's a man made emergency that
Joe Biden the Democrats want to have happen, and they
want to make it worse to tomorrow. And you know
they do because the policies they're following are designed to
make it worse tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (45:07):
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