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April 15, 2024 37 mins
What happens when a crisis in leadership affects an organization? Is the opportunity for restoration and rebuilding possible? Yes it is!  Dr. Jon Chasteen is on the podcast today. He is a husband and father, an author, the Lead Pastor of Victory.Church, and the Former University & Seminary President. Our conversation helps us understand better: How we can rebuild after a leadership crisis The role and challenges of a Re-Leader The impact of foundation building Planting seeds for future generations Overcoming weariness and burnout The challenges of rebuilding are real. It is important that we don’t despise the small beginnings because they will lead to the rewards of re-leading in marriage, business, and other aspects of life. Fixing what you didn’t break is hard. Navigating it can make us feel weary or stuck in the process. Remember, doing hard things with perseverance allows God to show up and bring transformation. Not only is my friend Jon teaching us how to shift our mindset to view crisis as an opportunity for growth and improvement, we are also getting strategies on how to do hard things, lead through a mess, and find strength to keep moving forward. Restoration is possible, friend! Let us know how you are making progress rebuilding your life by tagging us @biancaolthoff and @jonchasteen XO, B RESOURCES/LINKS Guest Jon Chasteen  ReLeader: How To Fix What You Didn't Break  Quote And the real question for every, really every real eater is am I willing to plant a tree and build something that I may never taste the fruit of it. Takeaways Re-leading requires patience and trust-building. Don't despise small beginnings; they are essential for growth. Re-leading can be challenging and discouraging, but it is a calling. Zoom out and envision the long-term impact of your re-leading journey. Doing hard things allows God to show up and bring transformation. ⋇ Convoy of Hope - Empowering Women and Girls Together Donate here ⋇ Bianca’s new book Grit Don't Quit: Developing Resilience And Faith When Giving Up Isn't An Option ⋇ The Grit Don’t Quit Bible Study is now available. ⋇ So grateful to our sponsors! This episode is sponsored by Airdoctor. Head to and use promo code WGT you’ll receive UP TO $300 off air purifiers!  ⋇ Subscribe to We’re Going There on your favorite podcast app so you don’t miss out on any of the great topics and conversations. Don’t forget to leave a loving review! Apple Spotify Google ⋇ Visit to learn more about books and other resources from Bianca. ⋇ Want to stay connected, join the community today. ⋇ WGT email: ⋇ Music by: Brad Tsushima, Instagram: @bradtsushima, email:, Spotify: “R.A.D.” Learn more about your ad choices. Visit
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