03-14-25 FULL SHOW - The Lakewood Informer Joins Us, Plus A Crime in CO Deep Dive

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome, Welcome, Welcome to a Friday edition of the show
All Together.

Speaker 2 (00:05):
Now for more than thirty minutes.

Speaker 1 (00:22):
I will be your host for the next three hours.
You heard it here, three hours. It's a full show,
hus So what are we going to talk about? I
don't know, just kidding, just kidding. I got a big
blog for you today. We've got three guests because we've
kind of had to move everybody back throughout the week.

Speaker 3 (00:42):
But they're good guests.

Speaker 1 (00:44):
And then apparently Trump is supposed to speak at one,
we will have our guests on because I really want
to talk to chief, our former chief, Paul Payson about
a new report from Common Sense. By the way, I'm
Mandy Connell. That guy over there is Anthony Rodriguez. We
call him a rod Yes, Yes, indeedy. And let's see
the blog. Shall We find it by going to mandy'sblog

(01:07):
dot com. That's mandy'sblog dot com. Look for the headline
this is three fourteen twenty five blog The Lakewood Informer
joins us plus a crime in Colorado Deep dive. Click
on that and here are the headlines you will find
within tick Tech two A winner.

Speaker 3 (01:22):
Anyone's Listening Office. Half of American all with ships and
clipas and say that's got a press platch.

Speaker 1 (01:27):
Today on the blog, I'm so sorry for all my
commercials that you're gonna hear today. I asked for snitches,
and you guys sent me. The Lakewood Informer, A deep
dive on crime stats with common sense. The wayiogipops in
at Q thirty Russia hedges on a deal. Did we
just create a new reason for illegal immigrants to come here?
Another Republican jumps into the governor's race.

Speaker 3 (01:48):
An American Airlines.

Speaker 1 (01:50):
Jet caught fire at DA scrolling a Colorado team died
during an abortion. All immigrants are not the same, so
stop treating them like they are.

Speaker 3 (02:00):
Scrolling.

Speaker 1 (02:00):
A doge has canceled a bunch of leases in Colorado.
Denver's forced electrification is on hold. How politicians make everything
more expensive? A quick history of tariff's in the United States.
Steam moat is coming for vacation home owners. Secretary of
State Marco Rubio is the right man for this job.
Scrolling a state board of that makes meaningless gesture?

Speaker 3 (02:22):
What great great hole in the wall?

Speaker 1 (02:25):
Tacos along mot Bakery owner swims with the sharks when
a baby boar is adopted by a dog. The retroactive
energy tax.

Speaker 3 (02:33):
This is goals for me.

Speaker 1 (02:35):
Those are the headlines on the blog mandy'sblog dot com
and to the texture just said, Mandy, I thought we
had basketball again. No, and I'm just gonna say on Wednesday,
I was annoyed that the cu Buffs won their game
and A preempted the show.

Speaker 3 (02:56):
But by Thursday I was like, Okay, we're going to
win it now.

Speaker 1 (02:59):
See you right, We're gonna to just go the whole
way since you've now preempted three of my shows. And
then they had the nerve to run into the buzzsaw
that is Houston.

Speaker 3 (03:07):
Last night.

Speaker 4 (03:07):
They had a few moments they did. They almost came back.
They brought it within five, and then Houston was Houston
because they really.

Speaker 1 (03:13):
All of a sudden, like they got within five and
Houston was like, oh we're still playing.

Speaker 3 (03:16):
Oh yeah, okay, yeah, and.

Speaker 4 (03:17):
That well, Mark Johnson and the broadcasting and even noted like, yeah,
this is not a team you want to get down to.

Speaker 3 (03:22):
Yeah, they are really good defensively.

Speaker 4 (03:24):
So when they brought it within five, I was like, oh,
oh see, you might might be that outlier here.

Speaker 3 (03:29):
And then yeah, nope, nope.

Speaker 1 (03:31):
But even if they won yesterday, it still would have
preempted the show today because the next game is at.

Speaker 3 (03:35):
Six o'clock tonight.

Speaker 1 (03:36):
So I was rooting for him, and I'm sad that
they lost. But here we are and we'll be okay, making.

Speaker 3 (03:42):
The best of it.

Speaker 1 (03:43):
Oh man, I was late in switching off my bad.
I'm the one that can't stand the air horn and
the human air horns. I know it's just me, but
I can't listen after that. No, it's not just you.
We have no multiple people that do complain, but we
have far more people who comment in the positive. This
is why we have the human airhorns. Can the little
kid air horn? Even a little kid?

Speaker 3 (04:06):
I really will up? Okay, I'm sorry. Okay, he's not sorry,
he's not.

Speaker 1 (04:11):
Every time you complain about it, an angel gets his way.

Speaker 3 (04:17):
That is her. She is coming into two thirty. It's
Saint Patrick's say, it's Easter and your air horns a rod.
At iHeartMedia dot Com, I can on the.

Speaker 1 (04:27):
Wall or they could do the talkback that to talkback
is the easiest way to send us an airhorn. All
you have to do on the iHeart radio is use
free to use iHeart Radio app preset for conn show.
By the way, I wanted to say this. I just
found out in a meeting the other day that iHeart
Media is actually kind of paying attention, huge emphasis to
who is on your presets, meaning if this show is

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on your presets, it would help his sister out. I'm
just throwing that out there, Okay, I'm trying to win
the preset award. So if you download the new app
or update you're at, you get presets across the top.
I've set all of mine to my favorite podcast. Isn't
that sad that I don't have one music station? But honestly,
if I don't listen to music, I don't really listen
to music. Isn't that sad? It's kind of sad that

(05:09):
I've never I'm not.

Speaker 3 (05:11):
My daughter music is.

Speaker 1 (05:13):
Like oxygen for her, you know, she has to have
her music, and she's actually.

Speaker 3 (05:18):
Introduced me to some very cool music.

Speaker 1 (05:19):
But I've never been one of those people that have
to have music on.

Speaker 3 (05:21):
I drive in my car in silence every drive.

Speaker 1 (05:25):
Nope, not every drive, but probably about seventy five percent.
What yeah, I drive in silence. That's my thinking time,
Like thirty minutes oh gosh, longer than that sometimes, So
I've done road trips for two and a half hours
in silence because I'm thinking about stuff. Sometimes I talk
out loud to myself.

Speaker 3 (05:41):
You don't do this other people?

Speaker 1 (05:42):
Okay, I need to know texters on the Common Spirit
Health text line, Who among this listening audience has a
conversation with themselves out loud in the car when you're
by yourself?

Speaker 3 (05:51):
Who else? Every year drive?

Speaker 4 (05:53):
I mean, I will say within the last week I
did do one just to like calm myself.

Speaker 3 (05:58):
Yea measure and time.

Speaker 1 (06:02):
Probably, like I'd say, probably seventy five percent.

Speaker 3 (06:06):
Of the time I drive in silence.

Speaker 4 (06:08):
You're strange, I I duh, No, that's no. When I
say you're strange, it's beyond the normal. You're strange. It's
that's strange for you. Mandy Connall, that's strange.

Speaker 1 (06:19):
Oh, you haven't begun to scratch the depths of the
strangeness of Mandy.

Speaker 3 (06:22):
Connon like weirder weird stuff off the air. Is it
weird for you to have things in common with serial killers?

Speaker 4 (06:27):
Because I think that's probably one of the things, maybe
because need to be.

Speaker 3 (06:32):
Stuck in their own minds. Yeah, may drive in silence.
You're now with them. Yeah, that's weird. We have a
text who wants to belch the air horn? Yes, God
com please give him a call. He's right there on
the text. I need it. I need to get on
the track back. I need I need it.

Speaker 1 (06:45):
So, sir or madam, who's going to belch the air horn?
You have to go to your iart radio app, the
one where you're going to make the Mandy Connall show
a preset, and then you were going to hit the
little red button on the microphone button.

Speaker 3 (06:55):
Yes, and you hit that. You got thirty seconds to
record whatever you want to record. If you take nice
things seven minutes, I will play it. There you go
multiple times. Oh, this text said hamas members drive in silence.

Speaker 1 (07:07):
Also thank you text. That's actually very funny. That's very funny.
I'm laughing on the inside where it counts. Yank Jason says,
of course I talk to myself while driving.

Speaker 3 (07:17):
That's the only time I can win an argument.

Speaker 4 (07:19):
Well, we don't want you to talk to yourself right now.
We want to talk back to us using the free
us at radio app.

Speaker 1 (07:26):
Using the talkback is like talking to yourself, only to us.

Speaker 3 (07:30):
Yes, see purpose yeah, not to be your serial killer.
There you go, Mandy.

Speaker 1 (07:33):
I talk to myself all the time while driving, and
once I even turned down the radio so I can
hear myself better. Okay, I haven't done that because I
usually turn the radio off like there's no sound there.

Speaker 3 (07:46):
I'll interview myself about stuff. If I need to see
better when looking for a parking spot, I turn what.

Speaker 5 (07:51):
You have to.

Speaker 1 (07:52):
Everybody knows that if you can't see a street sign,
you've got to turn the radio down. That's I think
they teach that in driving school. Now it's just universe, Mandy.
I talk to myself all the time, But you're a
psycho for driving in silence a psycho.

Speaker 3 (08:06):
No it's not, Mandy.

Speaker 1 (08:09):
Just cursing out stupid drivers count as a conversation with myself.

Speaker 3 (08:12):
No it does not.

Speaker 1 (08:13):
I'm talking about when you have a problem to work out, right,
because I found and I'm trying to teach my daughter
this now.

Speaker 3 (08:19):
Sometimes when I'm in.

Speaker 1 (08:20):
My head thinking about stuff, when I say whatever I'm
thinking out loud, I realize how absolutely batpoop crazy what
I'm thinking is.

Speaker 3 (08:30):
This is why this show is so cathartic. This is
exactly why this show is cathartic because.

Speaker 1 (08:35):
I just say whatever's in my head to you guys,
and sometimes it comes out of my mouth and I'm like,
you know, it doesn't quite sound the way I thought
it was gonna sound, but hey, whatever, it's out there, Mandy.
I used to drive to Denver to Salt Lake City
about half the time without the radio on, and I
would mention a few things to myself. I'm sure, yeah, Mandy.

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I drive or am at home in silence, and in
my head, I've got depesch and enjoy the silence playing.

Speaker 3 (09:02):
In my head.

Speaker 1 (09:03):
That's a lot of concentrating about silence. I just go
with the sound of silence. That's what I hum to
myself as I drive in silence.

Speaker 3 (09:11):
You guys.

Speaker 1 (09:11):
I think maybe part of it is having headphones on
for three hours a day, because now I'm hearing myself.
I'm hearing my own voice for three hours a day
and it's right there.

Speaker 3 (09:20):
And by the time I get in my car, I
just want.

Speaker 1 (09:22):
Quiet from my own voice. What does that say about me?
I think I need therapy anyway.

Speaker 3 (09:28):
Let me tell you what's actually.

Speaker 1 (09:29):
Happening on the show today. I did not I was
not was a rhetorical question. Oh sorry, you think I
did not need any kind of affirmation on that. You
got it anyway, An Belch, you weren't here when I
asked for snitches on the air, people to rat out
their local governments, their city councils, their town managers. I

(09:53):
wanted to know because I can't pay attention to every
bit of dirt. And I can't even tell you how
many people emailed me and said, you've got to get
the link an informer on the show. First of all,
I like anything called the Informer, but Karen Morgan has
been doing the Lakewood Informer. I don't even know how
long we're going to find out when we talk to
her at twelve thirty. It is a website devoted to Lakewood,

(10:13):
So if you live in Lakewood, you're probably gonna want
to check this out because much I mean in the
Lakewood story is being.

Speaker 3 (10:19):
Told all over. It's being the same story.

Speaker 1 (10:22):
And that is the battle between residents who moved to
an area for a certain ambiance and the push to
create greater density, to drive the tax space, to rate
make more money so they can have more amenities and
do all of those things that happen in a growing
city and it's conflict. And this is happening all over
the front Range. I mean, it's happening in Littleton where

(10:45):
they're trying to approve some big project in Littleton, and
you know you've got citizens pitted against developers, you know,
pitted against city council. That's what I want to know
because I'm paying attention down here in Douglas County, right,
I'm Intoglass County, and I pay attention, and we got
some shady stuff going on. It's board a county commissioners.

(11:06):
I've just heard that they fired a woman from a
planning commission seat, and I'm getting her on the show
to find out about that. So it's like, I'd love
to dig into some of the stuff. I'd love to
expose stuff. But I will tell you what I'm having
a hard time with.

Speaker 3 (11:21):
I got a couple tips from a couple of different.

Speaker 1 (11:23):
Smaller communities and they were basically like, here are the rumors.

Speaker 3 (11:28):
Right.

Speaker 1 (11:28):
Well, I can have the mayor on the show and
I can say, here are the rumors. Is any of
this true? But I don't know the answers to those questions,
and it's hard to find out in a small farming
community what's actually going on. So I'm basically enlisting all
of you to rat out the stuff.

Speaker 3 (11:43):
That's going on in your communities.

Speaker 1 (11:45):
The only way to solve these problems is to shine
sunlight on it. And this is something that the leadership
in Colorado absolutely hates, which just makes me want to
do it even more if you look at what's happening
in the Jefferson County School District where they have demonstrated.
And I got to get Lindsay Dakko back on the
show because she is just going lights out on these

(12:08):
people as a citizen journalists doing CORP requests, and she
has proven how dismissive of the actual parents in Jefferson County,
this board and this superintendent are. I mean, it's stunning
some of the stuff that's happening, but I can't cover
it all, you guys.

Speaker 3 (12:24):
And I'd love to.

Speaker 1 (12:26):
I love disrupting sanctimonious people in government who think they
are better than the people that they are supposed to
be serving. And we've got more than our And by
the way, I don't care if you're a Republican or
a Democrat, I really don't. All three members of the
Board of County commissioners and Douglas County are Republicans, and
I still don't trust him one of them. I don't

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fully not trust because you just got into office. But
I'm waiting to see if he is the rubber stamp
that I've been told he is.

Speaker 3 (12:55):
We shall see.

Speaker 6 (12:57):
Oh.

Speaker 1 (12:57):
You know the best thing about the Internet, I think
that has been so democratizing in the sense that.

Speaker 3 (13:07):
If you have music.

Speaker 1 (13:08):
Now, if you're a musician and you have a lot
of talent, I'm not saying you just put your stuff
on YouTube and you're gonna get discovered, But the reality
is is that more and more musicians are getting discovered
because young people find them on YouTube or they find
their music on Spotify. That would have been absolutely impossible
two decades ago, not even maybe fifteen years ago, right
because you just have to go through a record company

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and you had to sign a contract that was inevitably
suck really bad for you. But that's been taken care of,
and now we have this entire class of citizen journalists
who have risen up, so they're out there doing the
work that reporters that work for newspapers and television stations
either don't want to cover, their editors don't want them

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to cover, or they simply don't have time.

Speaker 3 (13:54):
One of the big.

Speaker 1 (13:56):
Areas of defense that I will always issue for people
in the mainstream media newspeople working for any kind of television, newspaper,
whatever organizations.

Speaker 3 (14:06):
They are all working with far.

Speaker 1 (14:09):
Fewer resources than they were just fifteen years ago, and
they're working their butts off, but there's so few people
that they cannot cover everything anymore. And then there's the
editors who say, no, we're not going to cover that
for whatever reason. But the citizen journalists are doing incredible work,
and this is incredibly powerful opportunity to cast a light

(14:31):
on some of the bad behavior that is going on.
And it doesn't have to be evil, it doesn't have
to be criminal. It just has to be something that
makes you go, wait a minute, is this right for
the community, And are they doing it for themselves or
are they doing it for everybody else?

Speaker 3 (14:44):
And this is how we make it happen.

Speaker 1 (14:49):
So I appreciate that we're going to talk to Karen
Morgan here at about twelve thirty from a Liakewood informer.

Speaker 3 (14:53):
I link to it. If you're in Lakewood, I would
suggest you check it out. We also are going to
have former chief of Police.

Speaker 1 (14:59):
Paw he's now a fellow with the Common Sense Institute.

Speaker 3 (15:03):
And they just did a new report that I'm making
sure I can open the report.

Speaker 1 (15:07):
Okay, Yes, they did a new report the Fight against
Crime in Colorado policing, legislation and incarceration, and they compare
in a lot of it Colorado Springs and Denver. And
I'm just gonna get I'm gonna I'm gonna let you guess.
I'm gonna let you guess which city spends more as

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a percentage of its overall budget on policing, which city
has more police officers per capita, and which city has
a lower crime rate. Now, if you guessed that those
through three things may be connected, you guessed correctly. But

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we'll talk to Paul Payson at one o'clock about that.
And then we are coming up on Saint Patrick's Day
on Monday. We are coming up on Easter in a
few weeks? Is it just a few weeks? Holy macaroniates?
What so lent ash Wednesday? I can't do the mask
in my head right now?

Speaker 3 (16:11):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (16:12):
A little over a month, No, not even a month. Sorry, guys,
don't ask me to do math and dates. Ever, for
this very reason, she's got some suggestions, some bubbles, and
I said to her the last time we spoke us, so,
you know what may be helpful for all of my listeners,
why don't you start doing wine store reviews. So that way,

(16:32):
when people hear us talking about something and they go, well,
I live in Oravada, so I don't know where to
get this stuff, they can go to I am Thewineyogi
dot com and find a review. And by the way,
that's just started, so they're not all up there and
they're not all done, but that way you can help
people find stores that we're really good. So she has
taken that to heart and has our first wine story
review as well.

Speaker 3 (16:51):
So we got a big show, and we've got a
whole show, a whole entire show just ready to be done.
And I'm so excited right now, so excited.

Speaker 1 (17:04):
Okay, I love all of y'all for sending me tips
about stuff to look into. I need you guys to
email me because the text line is here and gone, right,
I don't it doesn't stay. Mandy Connell at iHeartMedia dot com.
Mandy Connell at iHeartMedia dot com. So check that out

(17:27):
to the text or he just said Kyle Clark drives
around listening to recordings of himself.

Speaker 3 (17:31):
I bet stop it. I'm trying. I'm trying to find
commonalities with Kyle.

Speaker 1 (17:37):
He's doing some really good reporting on the GOP chairman's race.
Just trying to, you know, send out positivity, people positivity.
We'll be right back with the Liquid Informer. Keep it
right here on KOA and it's past twelve thirty. M

(18:00):
super excited about that. I asked you guys to on
my snitch line by emailing me Mandy Connell at iHeartMedia
dot com tell me about the shenanigans.

Speaker 3 (18:09):
That are going on your community. And I said this
a couple of weeks ago.

Speaker 1 (18:12):
Within two minutes, I had five different emails saying, You've
got to talk.

Speaker 3 (18:16):
To the Lakewood Informer. Now I am talking to the
Lakewood Informer. Now, Karen Morgan joining me in the studio.

Speaker 1 (18:22):
Let's talk about your website, Lakewoodinformer dot com. But first
let's talk about why you decided to start reporting on
shenanigans in Lakewood.

Speaker 3 (18:32):
What happened to you?

Speaker 5 (18:34):
Hi, thanks so much for having me.

Speaker 7 (18:35):
I appreciate the opportunity because there are shenanigans at the
local level and once you notice and you can spot
it at the higher level.

Speaker 5 (18:42):
So I appreciated.

Speaker 7 (18:44):
In my case in Lakewood, I was working with my kids.
My husband was building model rockets and we wanted to
go to the park and shoot them off, and they
we got pushed out of the Lakewood parks. There is
a law on the books that says model rockets shall
not be prohibited.

Speaker 5 (19:00):
What'd they do prohibited them?

Speaker 3 (19:03):
So where was the law that said they shall not
be prohibited? Was that a state law?

Speaker 5 (19:06):
It's city ordinance?

Speaker 3 (19:07):
Wait? Wait, so they violated their own city ordinance.

Speaker 7 (19:10):
They redefined model rockets as dangerous missiles as a gun ordinance?

Speaker 3 (19:17):
Are you kidding me?

Speaker 1 (19:18):
So it's now science is out in Lakewood. So they
pushed you out of the park. And what happened after that, Well,
then I got.

Speaker 7 (19:26):
Involved in other things, and I see this happens all
the all the time. For example, you know, now I'm
looking at pick an issue, it happens there. I write
a lot about crime. People come and complain about the
crime in Lakewood all the time. They come to city
council meetings, in public comment online on next door, and

(19:46):
nothing happens, right, as a matter of fact. And then
we bring it up and they they say that the
police deprioritize certain all the city crimes, the drug paraphernalia,
they're testpassing.

Speaker 3 (19:57):
The nuisance crimes.

Speaker 7 (20:00):
Yes, yes, And they say it doesn't really matter, don't
And then they say, well, it doesn't rise to the
level of our interfering because we just don't have the staff.

Speaker 5 (20:09):
Well, which one is it? Right, is crime so high
that you don't have time for this?

Speaker 7 (20:15):
And which one is? Or these policies working and therefore
you should have time for.

Speaker 3 (20:20):
Right, you should have time for the major crime.

Speaker 5 (20:22):
Yeah, they want it both ways.

Speaker 7 (20:24):
They want to tell you that these policies are working,
to not enforce and to forgive crime, and they go
the extra mile to say that everything is fine, but
it's not fine because things are still bad.

Speaker 1 (20:35):
Well, it's interesting that you're on here today because my
next guest coming up at one is former Denver Police
Chief Paul Pais, and he's with a Common Sense Institute
and they did a breakdown of Denver and Colorado Springs
and amazingly, and of course correlation is not causation, but
Colorado Springs spends a much bigger portion of its budget
on police. It has more police officers per capita, I believe,

(20:59):
and they have a lower car I'm right. I mean,
I'm not saying they're connected, but at some point we've
got to connect this. How big is the Lakewood Police
Department's budget as a percentage.

Speaker 3 (21:09):
Of the overall budget? Do you know?

Speaker 7 (21:11):
You know, I don't know the numbers offhand. I know
this year they did not ask for a budget increase.
They are shifting resources into more it's resource management, it's
community officers, so that they will give out resources instead
of and they are this year they're going to be
doing more AI assisted report writing. That's what they're saying.

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But I researched that early on. And for the size
of Lakewood, for the population, we should have enough police officers.

Speaker 5 (21:40):
That's not the problem.

Speaker 7 (21:41):
All things being equal, we should have enough police officers.

Speaker 5 (21:45):
What is different in Lakewood?

Speaker 7 (21:46):
And could it have something to do with we have
these laws on the books that we're just not enforcing
right people, the residents don't know that. The residents still
call in and ask for help, and city council outright
refuse to tell them multiple times, we refuse to study
the situation.

Speaker 5 (22:00):
Refused to tell people that's.

Speaker 7 (22:01):
What is going on, and that's got to have something.

Speaker 5 (22:05):
To do with it.

Speaker 1 (22:06):
So what do you think it is about Lakewood specifically,
because depending on first of all, depending.

Speaker 3 (22:12):
On what part of Lakewood.

Speaker 1 (22:13):
Lakewood is a lot like Aurora in the sense that
there are parts of Lakewood that are beautiful, like really beautiful,
and then there are parts of Lakewood that are way.

Speaker 3 (22:22):
More beat up. So how does that all play into
making Lakewood what it is?

Speaker 7 (22:28):
You know, that's very interesting because that is really getting
to be divisive at the city council level. It's you
guys have a one section words four and five. You
have a beautiful part of the city, So you should
be concentrating over here along coal facts for example, and
putting the resources over there. We should be spending more

(22:49):
money and going like this. But you know, overall, people
come to the city with all of these problems and
they're asking for help, and it almost doesn't matter where
you live or what your problem is because the city
council isn't listening.

Speaker 5 (23:06):
City officials are not listening.

Speaker 7 (23:08):
People are now coming into the hundreds to city council meetings,
which where that.

Speaker 1 (23:12):
In and of itself is remarkable because no one goes
to city council meetings.

Speaker 3 (23:17):
I mean it's right, you guys.

Speaker 1 (23:19):
Nobody wakes up in the morning and goes, yes, I
get to go to a city council meeting tonight.

Speaker 3 (23:24):
So the fact that people are.

Speaker 1 (23:25):
Showing up by the hundreds, what are specifically some of
the biggest issues in Lakewood? We've already talked about crime.
Are you guys having the same issues that we're having
in Douglas County and in a Rapo County where you
have people that have been there for a long time.

Speaker 3 (23:38):
You want to preserve the.

Speaker 1 (23:39):
Character of wherever they are right and then development, you know,
obviously they want the tax space, they want a larger
business community or whatever. Are you having those same kind
of conflicts at the board as well?

Speaker 7 (23:50):
Absolutely? Absolutely so they're coming in. One of the big issues.
I mean, that's affordable housing right right is the big
build up And you've mentioned that, how do you make
affordable housing work for all these other different cities? And
I don't even know if it's the tax base, but anyway,
people have come for that.

Speaker 5 (24:11):
They show up, they ask for setbacks on.

Speaker 7 (24:15):
Their property, they ask for park money, park land to.

Speaker 5 (24:20):
Be set aside.

Speaker 7 (24:21):
They ask for these things, and then the city has
one excuse after another. That's really what it comes down to,
one excuse after another. And then if that's not good enough,
what the city is doing now is taking it up
to the state level and inserting provisions into.

Speaker 5 (24:34):
Bills to make the excuses to the city. And then
they say, oh, there's nothing we can.

Speaker 3 (24:38):
Do, like what give me an example.

Speaker 7 (24:41):
For example, ten ninety three house built ten ninety three
just passed.

Speaker 5 (24:47):
That was a limit to local growth.

Speaker 3 (24:51):
We have another one. How does that look? I am
not familiar with that.

Speaker 5 (24:55):
It's an anti growth restriction.

Speaker 1 (25:00):
And an anti anti growth restriction, meaning you can't vote
to municipality can't say we're going to.

Speaker 3 (25:05):
Limit growth right.

Speaker 5 (25:06):
Well, and that was I've lived in.

Speaker 1 (25:08):
Multiple communities in Florida, because I've already been through this
once in Florida where everyone from the northeast invaded, right,
So there are there were any time they tried to
limit growth. All they did was jack up remaining property
prices so high that it had the opposite effect of
trying to bring, you know, make anything more affordable.

Speaker 3 (25:25):
It was kind of a disaster.

Speaker 7 (25:26):
And I should say that's not this bill specifically, because
I already repealed that in commone right, But for example,
we have Lakewood is fighting for parkland dedication and.

Speaker 5 (25:40):
Actually, let me back up, because I know.

Speaker 7 (25:42):
Better, House Bill twenty five, twelve eleven, that is something silly.

Speaker 5 (25:50):
It's a water tap fees. Okay, how much you're going to.

Speaker 7 (25:53):
Charge to tap into the system your share of the
overall infrastructure, right going on?

Speaker 5 (25:58):
Lakewood wants to limit that. They have wanted to limit.

Speaker 7 (26:01):
That for decades, and now is their opportunity. So they
have there inserting that at the state level to make
sure and do that here in Lakewood. And that is
they're saying a little bit of limiting tap fees, it's
a lot of making sure you develop every square inch
of land because if you don't put concrete there, then

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you have to pay for extra watering and irrigation whatever,
just go through the roof.

Speaker 5 (26:28):
So it's really a development aid.

Speaker 1 (26:30):
Do you feel like the Lakewood City Council is to
beholden to developers? Is that a common feeling in Lakewood?

Speaker 7 (26:36):
You know, there's a balance you really have to strike
with the development. But what I do know is that
you can't take away the local control of the water
districts who set their fees, and for disclosure, I am
a director elector director on one of these water districts.

Speaker 5 (26:54):
You can't take away the local control from.

Speaker 7 (26:56):
People who know how to set the fees equally to
do some city agenda or state agenda for that matter,
because the only agenda of these little water districts is
to get the bills paid.

Speaker 3 (27:08):
Right.

Speaker 1 (27:08):
So let's take a quick time out. Karen Morgan is
my guest from the Lakewood Informer. I want to ask
you some of your favorite stories that you have covered,
and I want to talk about Bill mar Park for
just a second, because that was mentioned specifically by multiple people,
and this is kind of what we're talking about now,
where development and green space are colliding.

Speaker 3 (27:27):
Will be right back.

Speaker 1 (27:36):
Happy Friday to everybody, even those of you driving slowly
in your fast car. I never realized how ironic it
was that this car the song is called fast cars
and it's so slow in silence. Shush by the way
way in on our Twitter, our Facebook or our Instagram pages,
we just asked if anyone else drives like a psycho
in silence. I'm with Karen Morgan, the Lakewood Informer and

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Karen a couple questions, one from this texture, Mandy, can
you ask her for details as to why Lakewood council
member Rich Oliver gave up his seat?

Speaker 3 (28:05):
Please? What happened there?

Speaker 7 (28:08):
Rich was really fighting upstream and nobody wanted to listen.

Speaker 5 (28:12):
They shut him down, They wanted to censure.

Speaker 7 (28:15):
Him at one point, and he walked away. He said,
there's no point in being here. This is not a
collaborative effort and there's nothing he can do.

Speaker 1 (28:21):
So we just called it out and stopped wasting his time.
I admire that I'm getting him on the show. Let's
talk about Bellmar Park for a moment. This is a
big thing going on in Lakewood. Now, correct me if
I'm wrong. This is my outsider looking inview. Bellmar Park
residents said we want to protect green space for this development,
and they did. They pass an initiative or something, or

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they pushed something forward, and then the city council basically went, nah, uh,
how close am I?

Speaker 5 (28:47):
You're so close? Except you missed all the shenanigans.

Speaker 3 (28:50):
Okay, I did be the lead. There was more.

Speaker 7 (28:55):
Yes, they're trying to protect the open space. The new
development going in is going to be developed right up
into the lot line on Bellmar Park, which on one
hand is your right. On the other hand, it's really
encroaching into the space. The development space will be pushed out.
It will destroy the setbacks that have already exist. People
got upset about it. Cities said there's nothing they can do.

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Residents did get together and I'm the least qualified to
speak on this. Save open Space Lakewood and save Bellmarpark
dot com.

Speaker 5 (29:26):
They're the ones who have really put in the time.
But they asked for the thing. They didn't get any accommodations.

Speaker 7 (29:32):
They started a petition, they got six thousand, they got
more than six thousand. They got to the wild registered
official press signers.

Speaker 3 (29:40):
Yes, and.

Speaker 5 (29:43):
To mandate that you have to give land. You can't
buy your.

Speaker 7 (29:47):
Way out of the right on dedication. That's what they
were trying to do. They got the initiative passed and
they were going through. But during this process morshanianigans and
they inserted into a state bill that you.

Speaker 1 (30:00):
Who couldn't do this, So they preempted the bill before
it could even get going.

Speaker 5 (30:04):
While it was getting petitions. Now Lakewood didn't do this,
They didn't do it at the city council level.

Speaker 7 (30:10):
They did at the state level, and now as part
of another state bill this year, they're saying that these
citizen initiatives just can't.

Speaker 5 (30:16):
Be done because they're illegal. They're going against state law.

Speaker 1 (30:20):
So this person, said Mandy on Belmar, Lakewood City Council
are using the excuse that they cannot put it up
as a ballot measure on the usage of land versus
green space. So my question is are they just lazy
or would they rather have the state do the work
that they were voted to do.

Speaker 3 (30:34):
And that's you're telling me it's the second right there.

Speaker 5 (30:37):
I think it's the second.

Speaker 7 (30:38):
But you know, they said that they didn't want to
risk people voting for something illegally.

Speaker 5 (30:44):
I think they just knew that they were.

Speaker 4 (30:46):
Going to lose.

Speaker 1 (30:46):
Yeah, I would urge anybody in Lakewood to go to
Lakewoodinformer dot com.

Speaker 3 (30:51):
I put a link to it on the blog today.

Speaker 1 (30:53):
Karen's actually got information interviews with special election candidates, which
I think is really great that you now have enough
gravitas that people recognize they should talk to you. I
haven't listened to them yet, but I think that's wonderful
for you. That really says that what you're doing at
the Lakewoodinformer dot com is getting it, Doug.

Speaker 7 (31:10):
Well, I appreciate it. I appreciate the time today. I
appreciate those candidates who talk to us because that speaks
well for their ability to listen too.

Speaker 1 (31:17):
Yeah, Karen Morgan, thank you for what you do. And
when you get a big scoop, we'll have you back
on again. I appreciate it so much.

Speaker 3 (31:23):
Thank you.

Speaker 1 (31:23):
All right, we'll be right back. Chief Paul, former Chief
Paul Paysan joins us. The Common Sense Institute did a
report talking about some of the stuff Karen is talking
about in Lakewood, only with Denver and Colorado Springs, and
it is really interesting but totally unsurprising.

Speaker 3 (31:38):
We'll be right back into the second hour of the show.

Speaker 1 (31:48):
Anthony Rodriguez has turned into a pumpkin and it's turned
into Zach Seger for the next two hours. But that's
okay because we have two more hours, not just four minutes,
two more hours in joining me in the studio. Now,
he used to be a police chief, but now he's
just a guy without a uniform. His name is Paul Paysan,
and he also happens to be a public safety fellow
with a Common Sense Institute.

Speaker 3 (32:10):
Now, if you don't know what common sense does.

Speaker 1 (32:12):
They look at the economic impact of a variety of
different things, and in this case we're going to be
talking about public safety.

Speaker 3 (32:18):
They also, in this study that we're going to.

Speaker 1 (32:20):
Talk about, look at the results of policies that are
utilized by government in order to try and fight crime,
or in some cases in Colorado, I would argue, make
crime easier and more convenient for criminals.

Speaker 6 (32:35):
So, first of all, welcome to the show. Appreciate you
coming in, Mandy, Thank you, it's an honor to be here.
And love the introduction. You actually nailed it. A man
without a uniform.

Speaker 3 (32:45):
There you're doing.

Speaker 1 (32:46):
All right, let's talk about this Colorado's crime and Aurora's
experience with auto theft and guys, I promoted a different
study because I asked the chief, I said, well, what
study are we talking about today? Because I looked at
the title of paperwork he's got it and he said, oh,
it's this one. I read this study. I just didn't
promote his study. So if it makes you me seem crazy,
well I'll just all cop to that. So this study

(33:10):
specifically was about Aurora's experience with auto theft. We know
that Colorado was number one in the country for auto thefts.
Just like a year or two ago, Aurora decided to
try and do something about it. Tell me, first of all,
what they decided to do well, It was.

Speaker 6 (33:27):
A dubious title that no state would want to have
number one in the entire country for auto theft, and
that is per kapup per one.

Speaker 3 (33:36):
Hundred thousand residents.

Speaker 6 (33:38):
We didn't get there on accident and really bad policy
equals bad outcomes. We used to be one of the
safest states in the entire country, with crime rates including
auto theft, at or below.

Speaker 3 (33:51):
The national average.

Speaker 6 (33:53):
After we made some statewide policy changes, some state statute changes,
we saw dramatic increases not just in auto theft, but
in property crimes, total crimes, and violent crimes. Now Aurora said, hey,
we're not going to tolerate this anymore. And kudos to
them for standing up and saying this is not what

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we want for the people that live, work, in play
in our community. And they enacted a tough city ordinance
to address auto theft.

Speaker 1 (34:25):
And what the Resultsman, Because it's very frustrating for me
and we've seen this happen so much in the legislature.
Whenever you talk about making crime more difficult, there's always
this little group of harpies in the background that says
more cops does not equal less crime. We know we
have statistics, and I get wanting to allow people to

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have a second chance. I get having a system where
rehabilitation is a part of it, a big part of it.
But what I don't get is the notion that somehow
we're going to make excuses for people that are going
to commit crimes before they even commit them and then
let them off the hook, which is.

Speaker 3 (35:01):
What we did with gar theft. That's exactly that, Mandy.

Speaker 6 (35:04):
I wish I could just take you with me and
you could rephrase that or say that over and over again,
because that's exactly what happened in the state of Colorado.
I am the first one to raise my hand and
say I believe in rehabilitation. However, I believe in accountability.
And if we make excuses for criminal behavior, we are
going to continue to see outpaced crime rates greater than

(35:27):
the national average. And what Common Sense Institute does is
it looks at the economic impact now crime and the
fear of crime drives the behavior of a community. If
people are afraid to live, work, or play in a community,
to go to work, to go to the grocery store,
to cross the street and go to the park. They're

(35:48):
going to make different choices, and sometimes those choices are
no longer being residents.

Speaker 3 (35:54):
Of the beautiful state of Colorado.

Speaker 6 (35:56):
They will move to places where they feel safer, where
that economic impact isn't as pronounced as it is here.

Speaker 3 (36:03):
I have a tiny anecdote about this.

Speaker 1 (36:05):
Yesterday I posted something on the blog about Auroras having
an international food festival and they want looking for nominations.
Just gott a throwaway story. I got an email that said,
I would never go eat in Aura because I love
a Wars food scene. I think it's amazing. It's all
these international flavors.

Speaker 3 (36:18):
And I would never go eat in Aurora.

Speaker 1 (36:21):
That's the kind of perception issue that has a direct
economic impact.

Speaker 3 (36:25):
Is that kind of what you're talking about here? That's
exactly it.

Speaker 6 (36:28):
If you do not prioritize public safety, If people don't
feel safe in your community, they will not go and
shop in your city, they will not live in your city.

Speaker 3 (36:39):
They will make choices based on safety.

Speaker 6 (36:42):
Safety Maslow's hierarchy of needs, it's foundational government's first role
is the protection, safety and security of its residents, and
we have to prioritize that, and that hasn't been the
priority for the elected officials. The decision make the people
in power who have watered down, who've made excuses for

(37:04):
criminal behavior, who have erased a lot of the accountability,
not just for auto theF but we're talking about hard
drugs like fonol, cocaine, meth amphetamine that we've watered down penalties.
We've also watered down penalties went with regards to bond
and letting people out on serious crimes on PR bonds

(37:28):
or what they've done is they created monetary bonds of
one dollar and two dollars, which effectively is a PR bond.
So when crime goes up and we don't hold people accountable,
we shouldn't be surprised.

Speaker 1 (37:40):
So how is this worked out from Aurora in terms
of how are their card safts different than the rest
of the state, and especially say, I'd love to know
their neighbors.

Speaker 3 (37:48):
What that looks like? Oh, perfect intro into the report itself.

Speaker 6 (37:55):
So again in twenty twenty two, Aurora said, no more,
We're not going to tolerate this.

Speaker 3 (38:01):
We are going to hold accountable individuals.

Speaker 6 (38:04):
Who steal that car from a young family that's struggling,
a single mom who needs.

Speaker 3 (38:09):
That car to get the kids to school, to go
to the grocery store.

Speaker 6 (38:13):
They're going to say we will hold people accountable, to
include a mandatory jail sentence for individuals caught stealing cars.
And what the report has shown is that they have
a dramatic decrease in auto thefts in their city. The
projected model is they have reduced auto thefts in Aurora

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during that time period by at least seven hundred and
twenty three auto thefts. Wow, seven hundred and twenty three
fewer victims of that particular crime. And what also gets
missed in this is oftentimes a stolen car is involved
in another higher level crimes, yes, higher level violent crimes.

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And if you're able to reduce seven hundred and twenty
three crimes in your city, you're also impacting those higher
level violent crimes. So they're making progress and that's exactly
what this report shows.

Speaker 1 (39:06):
One of the things I've always wondered as just like
a normal citizen who doesn't have a lot of contact
with criminals that I.

Speaker 3 (39:11):
Know of, is are criminals? Are they up to speed
on these laws because you know, you would think that.
I mean a lot of these.

Speaker 1 (39:20):
Criminals are not the sharpest people in the sharpest tool
in the shed, because they would be doing something more
productive if they were.

Speaker 3 (39:29):
But they do know the laws, so do they know
where they are? They're not going to steal a car
in Aurora? Is it that calculated?

Speaker 6 (39:35):
It becomes that calculated when you publicly announced that we're
going to hold people accountable, as George Brockler did recently
with his new position. He put the boundaries up, said hey,
if you commit crimes in this area, I will hold
you accountable to the fullest extent of the law. That

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is a deterrence effect that lets people know, hey, they're
serious there. And that's exactly what Aurora did in twenty
twenty two, and the report bears that out that they're
having greater success than the rest of the state. Now,
I believe that their actions help push the state because
the following year, the state of Colorado said, wait a minute,

(40:17):
us defelonizing auto theft right excusing criminal behavior has had
a negative impact on us. That led to the number
one per Kappa crime in the entire country. And so
they refelonized this crime, and we saw a decrease in the.

Speaker 3 (40:36):
Rest of the state.

Speaker 6 (40:37):
However, Aurora's leadership in this help nudge the state of
Colorado and their results are better than what the state
has done.

Speaker 1 (40:48):
So, you guys have done studies in the past about
specifically like how policies affect all of this stuff. Hasn't
been consistent across all of these different studies that you've done.
You see a consistent seam that when you invest more
in law enforcement, you see a lower rate of crime.
Do we now have a statistical body of evidence that
would allow us to say that.

Speaker 6 (41:11):
We at the Common Sense Institute, we really look at
this from that economic picture frame market.

Speaker 3 (41:16):
We want to make sure that we can show cost benefit.

Speaker 6 (41:20):
Analysis that we're talking about here whether investing in public
safety has those downstream.

Speaker 3 (41:27):
Positive impacts, and it does, it absolutely does.

Speaker 6 (41:31):
So.

Speaker 3 (41:31):
For example, the economic impact in.

Speaker 6 (41:34):
Aurora of that reduction in auto thefts is more than
sixteen million dollars that they have saved.

Speaker 3 (41:42):
For their community.

Speaker 6 (41:43):
There is a cost per crime and auto theft in particular,
it's about fifteen thousand dollars in direct costs, but there's
also indirect costs associated with the adjudication, investigation, incarceration that
pushes that number closer to twenty thousand per c. Now,
same way, if we utilized Aurora's approach for all crime

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in the state of Colorado, we would see a one
point eight billion billion with a B dollar savings for
the people of Colorado.

Speaker 1 (42:15):
And that's just on the cost of the crime itself, right,
And then we're not even talking about And I'm going
to use downtown Denver as an example. You were police
chief in Denver, and I have spoken with police officers
in Denver. I have some that email me on a
regular basis, and they have been so frustrated over the
years because they are arresting people and before they can
finish the paperwork, the people are already out again. It's

(42:35):
been a very frustrating cycle. And now we see a
situation in downtown Denver in my view, that we have
enough of a perception a violent crime backed up by
things like a flight attendant and a man being murdered
on the sixteenth Street mall not too long ago. And
yet I personally do not feel that either the Denver
City Council nor the mayor are giving nearly enough credence

(42:58):
to that public safety component. But I'll tell you this,
I don't drive my car downtown anymore. I don't go
downtown for dinner and a show. I don't spend nearly
as much time downtown as I did before because I
don't know if my car is going to be broken into.

Speaker 3 (43:11):
Or it's even going to be there when I get back,
depending on where I am. So in terms of the
economic impact of these crimes, I feel like I don't
understand why people don't understand that should be the first
piece to your point. What can citizens do to.

Speaker 1 (43:25):
Drive the point home that, because everybody's howling about public safety,
but yet it seems to be bouncing off.

Speaker 3 (43:31):
The people who can actually do something about it.

Speaker 6 (43:34):
So thanks for sharing that, And actually I think you
are very articulately making the point that public safety matters
right right, that people make decisions based on their safety
and the safety of the people that they love and
care about, and they make decisions on where they're going
to shop, on where they're going to recreate based on

(43:54):
safety needs as well. So it is foundational that city governs,
state governments, federal governments must protect their citizenry. That is
first and foremost for people to have a high quality
of life. Now, all of that being said, this report

(44:16):
is actually quite timely. What can citizens do? What can
community members do when they realize that the public safety
really is a critical component of their overall quality of life,
is they can see how these laws are impacting them.
Right now as we speak, in the Colorado State legislature,

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they don't like what Aurora has done. They're enacting a
bill that they will say, hey, cities, you can't do
this anymore. Even though you're prioritizing public safety at a
higher level than we do, you cannot do this moving forward.
And there's legislation where it says you cannot have penalties
higher than what the state does. Well, what I will

(44:58):
tell you is if we're leaving public safety up to
the folks in the state legislature who have made these
water down laws beginning in twenty eighteen, nineteen twenty twenty,
the laws that mandate that repeat offenders must be released
from jail within four hours, how does that make any sense?

Speaker 3 (45:19):
How does it make anyone safer? Exactly?

Speaker 6 (45:21):
And when they defelainize fentanyl, the most deadly poisoned drug
that we have, it used to be a felony. They
thought it was a good idea to turn it into
a misdemeanor. Meth Amphetamine, cocaine, heroin, deadly serious drugs they
have decategorized, defelinized.

Speaker 3 (45:40):
And what this shows is this is one.

Speaker 6 (45:44):
City's attempt to take public safety seriously and they're having
positive results.

Speaker 3 (45:51):
What should be happening is folks.

Speaker 6 (45:53):
Saying, wait, we can hold people accountable, we can reduce crime,
and yes, we can also focus on rehabilitation on the backside,
so that when this person gets out, they're not stealing
cars in the future, but you still have to hold
them accountable for those criminal actions that they took in
the first place.

Speaker 1 (46:10):
Wouldn't it be ironic if essentially the same makeup the
legislature that made it easier for communities to make it
harder for a citizen to own a gun then decided
that the communities can't make it harder.

Speaker 3 (46:21):
For criminals to do a crime.

Speaker 1 (46:22):
That's where we are in Colorado. It is so it
doesn't make any sense to me. It's super frustrating. We
got a text message on the Common Spirit Health text
line you can text your questions in at five sixty
six nine zero. This texter said, Hey, Mandy, former addict
and criminal here. If I wasn't held accountable, I wouldn't
be able to say former, And I think that you know,

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what is your take and on the economic impact?

Speaker 3 (46:47):
Oh, actually, somebody just asked this question.

Speaker 1 (46:49):
Hey, Mandy, please ask Paul if he thinks marijuana becoming
decriminalized was a major player in the crimes rise here.
Have you guys studied the criminal economic in pact of legalization?
Because that's you know, I'm a libertarian smalll libertarian at heart, right,
So I was like, sure, legalized pot, seeing what it's

(47:09):
done to Denver and seeing what has changed here since
even I moved here in twenty thirteen, because in part coincidentally,
at the same time.

Speaker 3 (47:18):
I'm not sure to feel that way anymore.

Speaker 1 (47:20):
You know, have you guys analyzed the impact economically of
that decision?

Speaker 8 (47:24):
Yes?

Speaker 3 (47:25):
Actually it's a very recent report.

Speaker 6 (47:27):
And a fellow fellow I love saying, fellow fellow Mitch Morrissey.
He's the former d attorney in Denver, and this report
is no more than a month old, and it looks
at marijuana as well as the impact that marijuana has
on additional drugs, the costs associated with that one area

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that truly is underreported, that it's not talked about enough,
is the direct link between.

Speaker 3 (47:56):
High potency THC and that increase levels in psychosis.

Speaker 6 (48:03):
It is causing mental health crisises in communities where you see,
in particular, there's a Mayo clinic report, a Cleveland clinic,
additional studies that are coming out on a regular basis
that are saying this is driving psychosis mental health diagnoses,
particularly in boys age sixteen to twenty four. So we

(48:27):
are causing more harm in our community by having the
essentially the wild wild West. It's unregulated the amount of THCHC,
and that is causing long term harms in our society.

Speaker 3 (48:42):
Fascinating stuff. They're doing all of this stuff at the
Common Sense Institute and.

Speaker 1 (48:46):
It's not all about crime. I mean, you guys really do.
And I love the way the reports are written in
such a way that you can draw your own conclusions.
You're not sitting here telling people here's what the data is,
and here's what you should think it is. Here's what
the data is. You can make your own choices in
your own decisions. So Paul Paysan so appreciates you coming.

Speaker 3 (49:03):
In on this issue.

Speaker 1 (49:05):
And I'm a huge fan of what's happening in Aurora.
In my job, one of the things I get to
do is I get to choose to watch things. When
I first got my first show in two thousand and five,
one of the first things I talked about was Venezuela
at the time, still under Yugo Javez, and I told
my listeners, you guys, we're going to get to see
the fall of this country in real time because everything
that I saw, they were headed.

Speaker 3 (49:25):
Off a cliff and we've gotten to do that.

Speaker 1 (49:28):
I'm watching and have been watching what's happening in Aurora
under an aggressive city council, under a supportive mayor who
really want to provide a vibrant, safe, beautiful place for
people to live in Aurora, Colorado. And I think it's
a fascinating sort of side by side study with Aurora
and Denver.

Speaker 3 (49:45):
I think that's going to be something to watch going.

Speaker 1 (49:47):
Forward, whether it's how they're dealing with homelessness, how they're
dealing with all of the other issues. It's just we
have this real time case study and we get to
watch it from afar and hope everything works out.

Speaker 6 (49:58):
You're exactly right on that, and I think that you know,
as you described, and whether or not people will go
there for the International Food Festival things of that nature.

Speaker 3 (50:07):
They'll go there if they feel safe, Yeah, and they'll
go to downtown Denver if they feel safe, exactly. And
this is showing that they're taking it serious. Some of
the recent policy changes that they publicly announce.

Speaker 6 (50:18):
They're saying it publicly. And why are they saying it publicly?
To provide that deterrence impact and reduce the crime from
prevent the crime from occurring in the first place.

Speaker 1 (50:28):
And that's why you had George Brockler surrounded by law
enforcement officers having a press conference to say, if you
come to the twenty third and do something, you're going
to jail.

Speaker 3 (50:34):
That's exactly it. And I live in the twenty third,
so I'm here for it, here for it. Former Chief
Paul Paige, and I really appreciate your time today.

Speaker 1 (50:42):
Thank you so much for coming in. And this is
great work coming out of the Common Sense too. And
Ross Kimisky is now an economic fellow there, so that's
kind of some I got one more question, Mandy. Can
you ask if the use of pot has any connection
to the use of hard drugs? Is that something you
guys have in terms of the Gateway drug situation. Yes,

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and I would encourage folks to take a look at
that most recent report from Mitch Morrisey. It's very detailed.

Speaker 6 (51:09):
It shows exactly in line graphs how the impact of
marijuana has had on the more dangerous, more serious the
types of drugs that have killed, poisoned so many of
our fellow coloradoms.

Speaker 3 (51:26):
I put a link to this report about a war,
but you can also that's going to take your right
to Common Sense's.

Speaker 1 (51:30):
Website, so you can go ahead and check it out there.
We will talk again in the future, sir.

Speaker 3 (51:35):
We will be right back. Keep it on KOA.

Speaker 1 (51:45):
Donald Trump is supposed to be speaking at the Department
of Justice. Do we ever figure out who' speaking now?
Is it still a female?

Speaker 3 (51:52):
Yes, it's probably Pam Bondy. Go ahead and bring it.

Speaker 4 (51:54):
Up you all.

Speaker 3 (52:05):
I promise she was speaking. We turn it up for
the Yeah. No, she's speaking right now. That is her.

Speaker 5 (52:12):
So we're gonna so have two angel moms here today.

Speaker 1 (52:16):
You know what, well, just when Trump comes on, I
want to hear that. No offense to Pam BONDI, who
I actually like. Well, she's got a rash of you
know what for not releasing the Jeffrey Epstein files. Mandy,
you can always text us at the common Spirit health
text line. This texter said, Mandy, what state bill is
it that doesn't allow cities to have harder penalties than

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the state? Want to email my state reps? So ridiculous.
I don't know, but I will find out. I will
find out, Mandy. George loses some points with me. He
and Darren Weekley are too fond of social media. In
the camera, they love to tuote their own horns and showboat.
I will just have their back for just a moment.
I would much rather have law enforcement at the forefront

(52:58):
on social media talking about fitting criminals in jail, and
Douglas County does a great job on their social media
of telling you how they arrested someone.

Speaker 3 (53:06):
And why they arrested them. I love it.

Speaker 1 (53:08):
As a Douglas County resident, I want criminals to go.
You know what, I'm not coming down here. I actually
I think it was the Parker Police Department, maybe Castle Rock.
I can't remember which one because I follow them both
on social media, and they actually had a video of
a guy getting thrown into the backseat of a car,
and he said, you know this wouldn't happen in Denver.

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It only happens in Douglas County. And I was like, yes, sir,
you are correct. Take your happy, little stealing self back
to Denver. Then, Mandy, there's no way that marijuana is
worse than alcohol. It's just that alcohol has been around
legally for so wrong, so long, that people don't even
consider it a drug anymore.

Speaker 3 (53:46):
I actually agree with this. I am.

Speaker 1 (53:51):
I am increasingly disgusted by mommy wine culture.

Speaker 3 (53:55):
I've talked about it here. I don't like it. I
don't think it's healthy.

Speaker 1 (54:00):
I don't think children need to be seeing that behavior
modeled when you have kids. Zach, you don't have kids, yeah,
Zackson for a right a Rod went to get some
sleep when you have kids, I mean for me anyway.
And maybe other parents didn't feel this way. And actually
I've seen other parents' parent differently, so I know not
everybody feels this way. But when I had the que
and even when Chuck and I got married and Ryan
and Phil were already there, they were in their teens,

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it became really important to me to model good behavior
around them. Right at the time, I was still a smoker,
and I never smoked around the boys, not once, not ever.
And then once I decided, or we decided, that we're
gonna try and have a baby, I stopped and that
was it and I never started again. But I still
tried to model good behavior around the kids. You know,

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the old saying is is that kids learn a lot
more by watching you.

Speaker 3 (54:48):
Than what you say.

Speaker 1 (54:50):
And that is so incredibly true. And I am not
a perfect parent. I will be the first to admit it,
but I have always been conscious. I never cursed around
my daughter until fairly recently when she deserved it, you know.
I mean, she's a fifteen year old teenager now, and
she cursed in front of me, Zach, she dropped the
S word, and then as soon as she came out

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of her mouth, she went, oh.

Speaker 6 (55:13):
Like that.

Speaker 1 (55:14):
And we had a conversation about time and place when
it comes to cursing, Like, you know, make sure there's
no adults around.

Speaker 3 (55:20):
I know you and your friends curse.

Speaker 1 (55:21):
I'm not an idiot, but make sure that you are
respectful of the people around you and not polluting their airwaves.

Speaker 3 (55:28):
But I think to myself, like.

Speaker 1 (55:30):
I want to model good behavior and I want law
enforcement and prosecutors in my neighborhood to stand up on
social media and say, if you come here, we're going
to arrest you and you are going to go to jail.

Speaker 3 (55:45):
So it may be annoying, but unfortunately this is the
world we live in. I how can I say this?

Speaker 1 (55:52):
Jelly despise the fact that I have to have a
social media presence, but ultimately I have to have a
social media presence. It's impossible to do my job without
a social media presence.

Speaker 8 (56:02):
Now.

Speaker 1 (56:03):
Unfortunately, I got into radio because I didn't want.

Speaker 3 (56:06):
People to know who I was straight. That is legit,
one hundred percent true when I was a kid.

Speaker 1 (56:11):
Here's a little radio background for you and guys, there's
way more important things we could talk about. If you
want to text me and ask me anything, tell me
what you want me to talk about. It's been a
crazy week.

Speaker 3 (56:21):
You can text me on the Common Spirit Health text
line at five six six nine.

Speaker 6 (56:24):
Oh, but.

Speaker 3 (56:27):
I completely lost my train of thought.

Speaker 1 (56:29):
What was I talking about, Zach, You were listening, You
were paying attention, or at least you were pretending to.

Speaker 3 (56:35):
Dang it, It'll come back to me in a minute.

Speaker 1 (56:38):
Oh that was Parker Peadie that posted the guy getting
arrested in the back seat, Mandy, Aurora has sucked for
fifty four years of my life in Denver, and I
will never go there. Unfortunately. Now I will not go
to downtown Denver. Even as a Denver resident. I go
to a lot of stuff in Aurora.

Speaker 3 (56:55):
There.

Speaker 1 (56:56):
When I say I love the restaurants in Aurora, I'm
not kidding because Aurora, unlike Denver, you can go to
an incredible little mom and pop shop that is not
going to cost you fourteen million dollars.

Speaker 3 (57:09):
You're not going to walk out feeling like you got robbed.

Speaker 1 (57:11):
You're going to be supporting a local family, probably an
immigrant family, and you get this incredible meal for a
reasonable price from around the world. We have all of
this international food that it's like and people are like, oh,
I weant go to Aurora.

Speaker 3 (57:26):
Well, you're missing out. Now. There are some scary neighborhoods
in Aurora.

Speaker 1 (57:31):
We already know this scary, but I avoid those and
I just go to the places and enjoy the great
parts of Aurora. And this is why I'm watching that
city council. This is why I'm watching There are already
a ton of people who have announced for the city
council race coming up. I'm telling you, Aurora, you've got
to vote on this, and you better vote very, very carefully.

Speaker 3 (57:53):
Mandy.

Speaker 1 (57:53):
We tried outlying alcohol once in this country and it
led to higher crime rates. Oh, don't get me wrong.
I am never I am a one hundred percent posed
to outlying any vice. I'm opposed outlying cigarettes, even though
I think they're gross.

Speaker 3 (58:06):
As a former smoker, I am.

Speaker 1 (58:09):
I'm opposed outlying alcohol, even though as I get older,
I find it to be very destructive. As the win
Yogi shows up to do a segment on bubbles Pree,
it's like anything in moderation, right, but unfortunately we see
a lot of things happen bad because of people that
can't do moderation. Of people that can't or for whatever reason,

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alcohol controls them instead of the other way around. It
can be extremely destructive in families. It can often lead
to domestic violence situations. Not everybody, of course, but it's
just it's not.

Speaker 3 (58:43):
Great for us.

Speaker 1 (58:44):
And I don't like the sort of cool like let's
just make it super awesome.

Speaker 3 (58:50):
For a mom to drink a bottle of wine every night.
It's not healthy at all.

Speaker 1 (58:55):
So in any case, that's where we It's not Saudi Aurora,
stop it right now. Aurora has way more ethnicities than
arab They have a burgeoning African community that has amazing restaurants.

Speaker 3 (59:07):
It was just so much going on in Aurora. Mandy,
who's the better driving instructor? You or Chuck?

Speaker 1 (59:12):
Well, when our first Ryan got old enough to learn
how to drive, he went out with Chuck. Once Chuck
walked back in the door and said, I cannot do that.
So I got to teach Ryan how to drive. Phil
just seemed to know how to drive through osmosis.

Speaker 3 (59:27):
He was easy.

Speaker 8 (59:28):
And Q.

Speaker 1 (59:30):
Has not gotten your learners permit yet because she doesn't
want to. And I we finally put the hammer down,
made an appointment. She's going to be doing that soon.

Speaker 3 (59:39):
Uh, who's the wait? North Blend is getting really bad.
Prime wise guys.

Speaker 1 (59:46):
When you invite a bunch of people in the country
and don't vet any of them and one of them
happens to be a Venezuelan gang that decides that Denver,
Colorado is the place they want to call home.

Speaker 3 (59:58):
Of course it's going to increase crime.

Speaker 1 (01:00:00):
We've now had in Highland's Ranch three burglaries where the
houses were cut off from the Internet. They used to
WiFi jammers so none of their alarm systems worked.

Speaker 3 (01:00:09):
The houses were.

Speaker 1 (01:00:10):
Ransacked and one homeowner came home three in like two days.
Crime is everywhere now and we have the delightful I
think delightful immigration policies to blame for at least a
bit of it.

Speaker 8 (01:00:27):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (01:00:28):
Mandy, you were talking about working in radio for an
anonymous person.

Speaker 3 (01:00:31):
I don't even remember what the story was. Now, dagit, Mandy.

Speaker 1 (01:00:35):
I agree with you on almost everything, but you are obnoxious. Sorry,
I'll come to that. I'm fine with that better than
being boring, because being boring in this job is a
death now. Oh, Mandy, you were talking about your approval
of Brocolo loving the limelight when you lost your train
of thought. Now I had already moved past that. I think,
what are your favorite mom and pop restaurants in Aurora?

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You know what I'll do, because a couple of mine
have closed they did not quite make it out of
COVID intact.

Speaker 3 (01:01:05):
I'll make a list. Ooh ooh, I have an idea.
I have an idea brewing.

Speaker 1 (01:01:10):
We could do a Mandy Connell listener takeover of certain
restaurants on certain days. Ross does this on occasion where
we just say, like Thursday at six, we're gonna meet here.
That would be fun. C ever drank or vaped as
far as you know. Well, the queue did try beer
with us in Belgium, cause you know, we were making

(01:01:32):
Belgian waffles with beer. And she tried three different beers.
One of them was a cherry beer that tasted exactly
like cherry soda.

Speaker 3 (01:01:39):
It got the thumbs up.

Speaker 1 (01:01:41):
The next one was an ipa that tasted like a
glass fill of grass clippings.

Speaker 3 (01:01:45):
That was a big thumb down. And the last one
was some kind of peach thing or something.

Speaker 1 (01:01:48):
And she was like, Eh, she's not interested in vaping
because I constantly talk about how much money I just
wasted smoking. God, that still just chaps my hide. Not
that I would have anything responsible with it, but I shouldn't.

Speaker 3 (01:02:01):
Have spit it on that.

Speaker 8 (01:02:11):
Free speech and many other things and values in America,
My administration stripped the security clearances of the disgraced intelligence
agents who lied about Hunter Biden's laptop from Hell. We
revoked the clearances of deranged Jack Smith, Alvin Bragg, Letitia James,
and the crooked Law firms that aided their partisan persecutions,

(01:02:35):
and I went through it. These are state and city courts,
and the corruption is unbelievable. We also terminated the clearances
of the Biden crime family and Joe Biden himself.

Speaker 3 (01:02:51):
He didn't deserve it.

Speaker 8 (01:02:52):
In fact, he was essentially found guilty, but they said
he was incompetent and therefore let's not find him guilty.
I guess nobody knows what that ruling was, but I
didn't want any part of it. I think I would
have rather been found guilty than what they found with him.
They said he didn't know what the hell he.

Speaker 3 (01:03:10):
Was doing, and therefore he's let him go. I said,
you know, I'd rather be convicted, Pam. I think that
that was I said, please convict me.

Speaker 8 (01:03:20):
Don't say that. I pardoned hundreds of political prisoners who
had been grossly mistreated. We removed the senior FBI officials
who misdirected resources to send SWAT teams after grandmothers and
Jay six hostages.

Speaker 3 (01:03:36):
And it was a great honor for me to fire.

Speaker 8 (01:03:38):
I will tell you this, a great honor to fire
James call me a great, great honor.

Speaker 3 (01:03:44):
That was nothing.

Speaker 8 (01:03:45):
That was no better day a lot of people said, oh,
that's too bad, you did that, and they said that's
going to be and you know what, a year later
they said that actually saved the administration because a level
of corrupt things that we learned after that turned out
to be that they were doing, in fact, really bad things.
He was a terrible person, did terrible things and persecuted people,

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and all in the guys.

Speaker 3 (01:04:10):
Are being an angel, but he wasn't an angel. We
created a brand.

Speaker 8 (01:04:13):
New DOJ task force, an anti Christian bias, and under
Director of Patel, we're getting the FBI agents out of
the headquarters in Washington, DC and back on the streets
in pursuit of dangerous criminals.

Speaker 3 (01:04:27):
Where they belong and where they want to be.

Speaker 8 (01:04:30):
And you know, you have that big FBI building, and
it's a very big building, and they were going to
build an FBI headquarters three hours away in Maryland, a
liberal state. But that has no bearing on what I'm
about to say. But we're going to stop it. I'm
not going to let that happen. We're going to build
another big FBI building right where it is, which would
have been the right place, because the FBI and the

(01:04:52):
DOJ have to be near each other.

Speaker 3 (01:04:53):
You can't. That's one thing I did learn from this persecution.
The FBI and the DOJ work together.

Speaker 8 (01:05:00):
In my case, they work together for bad purposes, but
they do. They were awas together. So how can you
have one that's three hours away? But one thing I
said to Cash, Well, we're going to get a great
building built.

Speaker 3 (01:05:11):
It's going to be a magnificent building. He said, So
we don't need that kind of room. I said, what
do you mean?

Speaker 8 (01:05:16):
He said, I'm just going to take a old Department
of Commerce building that's about twenty five percent the size,
and that's what I need. We're going to have the
best staff that you've ever seen, and that's what I need.
It's in a nice location, but.

Speaker 3 (01:05:27):
I don't need that big building.

Speaker 8 (01:05:29):
Why don't you just sell the site to somebody and
we're going to be very happy and they want to
have far fewer people.

Speaker 3 (01:05:37):
But we also want to have them in DC.

Speaker 8 (01:05:39):
And if for no other reason, we like having law
enforcement walking the streets of our capital because when the
bad guys are out there and they see.

Speaker 3 (01:05:48):
There's an FBI agent, that's the.

Speaker 8 (01:05:51):
Ultimated law enforcement and they're not going to be acting
so bad we're leaning up our city. We're leaning up
this great capital and we're not going to have crime.
I'm not going to stand for crime. And we're going
to take the graffiti down. And we're already taking the
tents down and we're working.

Speaker 3 (01:06:07):
With the administration.

Speaker 8 (01:06:08):
And if the administration can't do the job we're going
to take we're going to have to take it back
and run it through the federal government. But we hope
the administration is going to be able. So far, they've
been doing very well. The mayor's been doing a good job.
We said there are tents galore right opposite the State Department.
They have to come down, and they took them down
right away, and so so far, so good. But we

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want to have a capital that can be the talk
of the world. When Prime Minister Modi of India, when
the President of France and all of these people, the
head of a Prime minister of the United Kingdom, they
all came to see me over the last week and
a half. And when they come in, I like to

(01:06:51):
had I had the route run. I didn't want to
have them see tents. I didn't want to have them
see graffiti.

Speaker 3 (01:06:57):
I didn't want to have.

Speaker 8 (01:06:58):
Them see broken barriers and pot holes in the roads,
and we.

Speaker 3 (01:07:01):
Had it looking beautiful.

Speaker 8 (01:07:03):
And then we're going to do that for the city
and we're going to have a crime free capital. When
people come here, they're not going to be mugged or
shot or raped, and they're going to have a crime
free capital again. It's going to be cleaner and better
and safer than it ever was. And it's not going
to take us too long.

Speaker 3 (01:07:19):
All right, we are going to dip out right now.

Speaker 1 (01:07:22):
I'm not hearing lent new stuff right now, and I'm
not knocking what the President is saying. I'm just I'm
not hearing new stuff come.

Speaker 3 (01:07:29):
Out right now.

Speaker 1 (01:07:30):
We will monitor this on the break and we will
be back. I have a thousand things on the blog
that I had a thousand things this week that we
didn't get to, So we may not dip back in,
but we'll be back after this. We'll let you know
if something good happens.

Speaker 3 (01:07:51):
About the show. Yes, indeedy we had three hours today.
It's been glorious. I have squandered quite a bit of it,
but that's okay.

Speaker 1 (01:07:59):
Coming up at two thirty the win, Yogi joins us,
we've got easter bubbles to talk about, Saint Patrick's day
to talk about, and she's been doing a series of
wine store reviews. So wherever you are, eventually the win
Yogi will be able to tell you to go where
to get the wines that we talk about, or just
similar wines and help. So that's coming up to two thirty.
In the meantime, though, I do want to answer this

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question because thank you Texter.

Speaker 3 (01:08:22):
When you lost your train of thought.

Speaker 1 (01:08:24):
Earlier, you were about to tell us why, even as
a very young person, you preferred radio to TV for
a career.

Speaker 3 (01:08:30):
First of all, it never occurred to me to go
into television.

Speaker 1 (01:08:32):
I'm gonna be perfectly honest, because I am a giant person.
Zach is in for a Rod. A Rod went home.

Speaker 3 (01:08:40):
He had to work in the morning show, so we
let him go so we can actually get some sleep. Zach,
do you go any TV people? A few? Yeah, Daryld,
Tiny aren't they?

Speaker 4 (01:08:49):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:08:49):
They want to They're tiny people. They're like little pocket people.

Speaker 2 (01:08:53):
Right.

Speaker 1 (01:08:54):
So, the few times that I've been on camera on television,
and even when I was in my early twenties, I
did I worked for a restaurant and I did a
television hit with a local television station, and the first
thing I noticed was that I am like Godzilla around
other television people. I mean, I was a good I'm
five ten, so I was like three inches taller than
the male anchors, and I was like five inches taller

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than the female anchors and they were wearing heels. So
I didn't belong there. But radio has always appealed to
me because it used to be anonymous.

Speaker 3 (01:09:25):
There was a guy when I was growing up in Jacksonville, Florida.
He was the ape Man. I didn't grow up in Jacksonville,
grew up in a town adjacent to Jacksonville.

Speaker 1 (01:09:32):
We were part of their radio market and the ape man.
Nobody knew who the ape Man was.

Speaker 3 (01:09:38):
He would go.

Speaker 1 (01:09:38):
Into work wearing a gorilla mask and then he would
do this wild show like he was one of those
early like nineteen seventies, eighties kind of I don't want
to say shock jock, because he wasn't as bad as
Howard's certain.

Speaker 3 (01:09:51):
But he was really edgy for the time, you know,
and nobody knew who the ape Man was. And I
was like, that is so freaking cool. You're like a
s but you're on the radio.

Speaker 1 (01:10:02):
I mean, think about that for a second, having no
one know who you are, and yet everybody knows your voice.
And through the years, I will say I have been
until the Internet, I was recognized by my voice far
more than I was ever recognized for the way I look. Well,
now you know, now, I think it's a little bit different.
People look at you on the Internet. They follow you
on Facebook, which you should do Mandy Connell or Instagram

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at the Mandy Connell And I say, this is part
of why I hate doing social.

Speaker 3 (01:10:28):
Media, but it's a necessary part of the job now.
And for ulsters like me who are in.

Speaker 1 (01:10:35):
Radio meeting with this big muckety mucket I heart the
other day is a VP something something in social media
something something.

Speaker 3 (01:10:44):
Super guy, super guy.

Speaker 1 (01:10:47):
And I'm sitting in this meeting and I legitimately have
no idea what the words coming out of his mouth mean.

Speaker 3 (01:10:54):
I have no idea what the initials mean. I have
no idea what language this man is speaking. And I
just sat there and I was like, Okay, just nod,
just nod and smile and not and smile, and at
the end of it, just say, great job, appreciate you
so much. And that's what I did. I was like,
I have no clue what this man is talking about.

(01:11:14):
But I have a rod. Please, I have a rod,
so I don't have to worry about it. Want me
to buy you a monkey mask? Lol.

Speaker 1 (01:11:25):
With the Internet, the cat is out of the bag.
Nothing I can do about that. So thank you Texter
for reminding me of what I was talking about. By
the way, we'll make it and ask me anything till
the wein yoga gets in here. Five six six nine
O is the text line. In the meantime, let's talk
about some actual news for just a minute.

Speaker 3 (01:11:41):
I actually have a story on the blog today that
I'm genuinely.

Speaker 1 (01:11:43):
Concerned about because we already know that illegal immigrants came
across the southern border and told people at the border
they wanted to come to Denver because of our immigration policies,
namely that they could come here and be pretty much
immune for any sort of prosecution. And they knew we
were a sanctuary city and that's why they chose Denver.

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So imagine my surprise and frankly a little bit of
upset when I see this headline on Denver.

Speaker 3 (01:12:12):
Seven new Colorado law will fast track.

Speaker 1 (01:12:16):
Process for immigrants to obtain driver's licenses.

Speaker 3 (01:12:19):
Oh yeah, this should go well.

Speaker 1 (01:12:22):
A new Colorado law will speed up the process for
new immigrants to obtain their driver's licenses. Colorado already allows
they say undocumented I'm going to say illegal immigrants to
get driver's licenses, but they currently must live in the
state for at least two years before qualifying and provide
a Social Security or individual taxpayer identification number. Which was

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signed into law by Governor Jared Pulis in June of
twenty twenty four, it will drop those requirements. So let
me just tell you what the bill summary does.

Speaker 3 (01:12:55):
The new bill just signed by Jared Pulis.

Speaker 1 (01:12:58):
It repeals the requirement that the applicant have filed a
Colorado resident income tax return. It repealed the requirement that
the applicant demonstrate residency in the state for the immediately
preceding two years. It repealed the requirement that the applicant
provide a documented Social Security number, which they can't have
if they're an illegal immigrant unless they bought it from

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someone else, or an individual taxpayer identification number, and allowing
an applicant to present a passport, consular Identification card, or
military ID document from the applicants country of origin that
is unexpired or expired less than ten years before the
date of the applicant's application for a driver's license or

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identifying document.

Speaker 3 (01:13:43):
Now, let me just explain what this does.

Speaker 1 (01:13:47):
This makes den for the place and Colorado the state
where you can break into the country illegally for you know,
good purposes or bad.

Speaker 3 (01:13:57):
They don't ask.

Speaker 1 (01:13:58):
You can come into colorad and immediately go to a
driver's license office and they are going to give you
a driver's license, which immediately gives you legitimacy. Now, whether
you say or not, it doesn't matter. You already have
a legal document from the United States of America that
says you are here. So they can then take that

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driver's license and go wherever they want to do whatever
they want. And the reality is this, there are a
lot of really good people who are suffering from economic disasters,
mainly because they're coming from socialist South and Central American
countries who want to come here to give a better
life for themselves for their children. I get that, but

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there's a certain percentage of these people that are coming
over to set up outposts of trendy Arragua or other
gangs from Central and South America and we are about
to give them legitimacy immediately. This is going to be
a problem going forward as will it should be oh mandy,
but no proof of insurance required. Of course, we can't

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ask for people to actually follow all the laws.

Speaker 3 (01:15:05):
Anyway.

Speaker 1 (01:15:07):
Maybe it's Friday, woohoo. How about some happy stories. I
want to see the baby giraffe at the Denver Zoo.
Does the little tyke have a name yet? That from
Jared and Boulder Jared, good news. You can actually vote
on the name of the new baby giraffe at the
Denver Zoo, but you got to pay to do it.

Speaker 3 (01:15:23):
It's a fundraiser, you know what.

Speaker 1 (01:15:24):
For though to take caure of the baby giraffe. Best
fundraiser ever? I believe it's Denver Zoo dot com.

Speaker 3 (01:15:33):
We'll be right back. Speaking of fire, there was a
fire at the airport.

Speaker 1 (01:15:45):
Air American Airlines plane had engine some kind of engine
vibration situation trouble. The last thing you want is an
engine that's vibrating, because that means something that is spinning
has come loose, and that is an absolute disaster, I mean,
not an actual disaster. I shouldn't say it like that
because obviously the plane landed, got to the gate, and

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then caught on fire, which you know, I'm actually kind
of surprised because normally, if there's any kind of situation
with an airplane where there's any kind of fire, they
will back that thing away from the gate.

Speaker 3 (01:16:19):
And they don't appear.

Speaker 1 (01:16:20):
I don't think the jetway was up there, but they
do not appear to have backed it up from the gate.
But I also from the video that I have on
the blog today, you can see it from two different angles. Now,
the only reason I say this is because there are
going to be more people and I see this online like,
oh my gosh, it's so unsafe to fly right now.

Speaker 3 (01:16:36):
No, it's not. You guys, you first of all would
be shocked and horrified to find out how often things
like this happened. Okay, this is not super unusual. Now,
I'll be honest.

Speaker 1 (01:16:48):
In the five and a half years that I flew,
my planes never caught on actual fire.

Speaker 3 (01:16:52):
We had smoke in the cabin and stuff like that.

Speaker 1 (01:16:54):
But I'm getting on an airplane this afternoon because I'm
going to be broadcasting from training next week, and I'm
pretty not the whole week, just in Monday and Tuesday Tuesday,
I get to broadcast.

Speaker 3 (01:17:04):
From the actual stadium.

Speaker 1 (01:17:06):
I'm super excited about that, super excited to the Texter,
said Mandy. At least the Zoo was smart enough to
limit possible names. I would have spent money to submit
and vote on the name Tali mattal face, and of
course a reference to voting mcboat face, which the Navy
was actually going to have to name some kind of
craft because everyone voted on that. This is what happens

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when you let the internet decide people. When I was
pregnant with a queue, I said to Chuck for just
a moment, I was like, hey, we should do a
poll and let the internet pick the name of our child.

Speaker 3 (01:17:39):
And he just he did that thing.

Speaker 1 (01:17:42):
I think everybody has this in their lives. You have
that person who doesn't say anything. They just stand there
and they stare at you, right, just that dead stare
for a good like thirty forty seconds. And I was like, yeah,
that's probably not a good idea. After I said it
out loud, Oh, let's do what's going on in.

Speaker 3 (01:17:59):
The up speech.

Speaker 1 (01:18:00):
There's act somebody said Trump is making a bizarre speech
right now, let's check it out.

Speaker 8 (01:18:03):
We're all straight into the USA and open border.

Speaker 3 (01:18:06):
We had an open border policy.

Speaker 8 (01:18:07):
Anybody could come in, no matter what you were, no
matter where you came from, no matter what you look like,
no matter what you were doing, no matter what you did,
no matter how many people you have murdered, you could
come right into our country.

Speaker 3 (01:18:19):
Runs right now, walk in the streets. Yeah, again, not wrong.

Speaker 8 (01:18:22):
We're joined today by Tammy Nobles, who's twenty year old daughter, Kayla,
was attacked in her home three years ago, horrifically assaulted
and strangled to death by an illegal alien MS thirteen
monster set loose into our country under the open border
Biden regime. Kayla was one of countless American victims ripped

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away from their families by the.

Speaker 3 (01:18:45):
Open This is just more examples of the negative consequences.

Speaker 8 (01:18:50):
Kayla's stepfather Jered, So, maybe.

Speaker 3 (01:18:52):
We missed the bizarre part. Bring that back down, Bring
it back down, and I'd love it.

Speaker 1 (01:18:57):
I'll go over all that on Monday. I'll have time
to die. I dissect the whole thing on Monday. And again,
it's not that I you know, don't want to hear
Donald Trump say things, but if it's breaking.

Speaker 3 (01:19:08):
News or something new, then yes, we can do it.
I have a favor to ask from you listeners.

Speaker 1 (01:19:15):
Dough has canceled a bunch of leases in Colorado, and
here's what I need citizen journalists to do. The list
of all of the properties is linked today on the blog.
Are friends at Fox thirty one have a list. If
you are anywhere around any of these addresses, go see
what's up.

Speaker 3 (01:19:32):
Are there any people in these addresses? What are these
businesses or offices? What are they?

Speaker 1 (01:19:39):
Because some of them are big, eighty six thousand square
feet in Denver off Broadway.

Speaker 3 (01:19:47):
So I'm curious if you've got time and you've got
the inclination.

Speaker 1 (01:19:53):
I know there's a couple down south in Douglas County
that I'm going to go check out.

Speaker 3 (01:19:57):
I just I just want to know what we're canceling
leases for. I'm a posed to it. By the way.

Speaker 1 (01:20:01):
I just wonder know if people are gonna be working
in their cars now, because that would be a little inconvenient.
The wine Yogi up next. We're talking bubbles for Easter
and delicious Irish cream for Saint Patrick's Day. A new
wine store review, and she has brought in a unicorn product.
It is low car bread that is freaking delicious. We'll

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do all that next, wine Yogi Cristo Alfonso to join us.
And right around the corner, two things are happening. Number One,
Saint Patrick's Day is Monday, and we could have spent
a lot of time talking about fancy Irish whiskeys. But

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let's be real, you're just gonna drink crappy green beer.
Probably why not not?

Speaker 8 (01:20:49):
You?

Speaker 3 (01:20:49):
Now with you in the greater collective sense of you,
people don't. Here's the thing? What is it about?

Speaker 1 (01:20:56):
Because Irish whiskey doesn't suck? Right, it's not horrible coffee,
but it doesn't get a lot of street cred. You know,
it's definitely you think about beer. You think about, you know,
green beer. You don't necessarily think about a fine Irish whiskey.

Speaker 5 (01:21:11):
The green beer reminds me too much of the Green
River in Chicago. So that's why it's kind of.

Speaker 3 (01:21:15):
Already passed for me.

Speaker 1 (01:21:16):
I don't like what nevermind, I won't say what it
looks like coming out the other end anyway.

Speaker 3 (01:21:21):
Wine Yogi is doing a couple of things on.

Speaker 1 (01:21:23):
Today's blog that I've linked at my blog at Mandy's
blog dot com. But you can always find her at
Iamthwineyogi dot com. But let's talk about first the liquor
store reviews or wine store reviews, because this is something
I said, you know, Crystal, we talk about all these
great wines, but then people will email me and say, where.

Speaker 3 (01:21:39):
Can I get this in Nevada? Where can I get
this in Aurora? Where can I get this? Where? I
have no idea?

Speaker 1 (01:21:44):
So I have set the wine Yogi on it, and
she's begun her reviews of wine stores.

Speaker 3 (01:21:50):
And I thought it was very kind that you mentioned
that you went into.

Speaker 1 (01:21:56):
A quote wine store in Aurora, but we're so unimpressed
you decided to not even name them.

Speaker 3 (01:22:03):
Well, so specialty is in the name, and it was.

Speaker 9 (01:22:06):
There was nothing special other than how they stored some
of their cheap Chardinay.

Speaker 3 (01:22:11):
And that's fine. There are.

Speaker 5 (01:22:13):
You have liquor stores out there that they serve.

Speaker 3 (01:22:15):
A demographic and and God bless them, they're just not
the kind of place.

Speaker 1 (01:22:20):
They're unsophisticated wine drinkers, if they even drinking. It sounds
like an insult, but it's really not, because at one
point I was an unsophisticated wine drinker. And you develop
as you try new things, and you go to wine
tastings and you learn more about wine, but everybody starts somewhere.

Speaker 9 (01:22:37):
I think this is more just kind of the business model.
If you kind of think of your convenience stores. When
it comes to a grocery store, they have like your basics,
and you can run into the loaf and jug or
whatever the convenience store is you need to run into.

Speaker 3 (01:22:50):
You can grab what you need. You know, it may
not be what you normally buy, but if you're in
a pinch that that will work. There you go.

Speaker 5 (01:22:57):
So that's how I kind of regard.

Speaker 3 (01:22:58):
A lot of these places. But I had had I hopes.

Speaker 9 (01:23:00):
The general area that this was at seemed like kind
of a based off the restaurants and the living situation,
like with the apartments and kind of the homes. I
was like, oh, I think this will this will be
pretty nice, and had great reviews, fantastic.

Speaker 3 (01:23:18):
Reviews, and I just walked in. I was like, wow,
I know exactly who your distributor is and you only
have the one for wine.

Speaker 9 (01:23:27):
And so I walked in and I pretty much did
a quick loop around the store and walked out. So
then I started googling somewhere else, and that's how I
came across mister B's over at the Stanley Market and
it was pretty close by, and so I was like, okay,
I have to cleanse my palette in my eyes of
what I saw because they were stored. They did actually
have chardonnay sitting in a window with nothing, no type

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of sun protection.

Speaker 1 (01:23:50):
Just to let you guys know, light degrades most liquids, yes, okay,
it degrades beer, It degrades wine, It degrades milk, It
degrades a lot of stuff.

Speaker 3 (01:23:58):
So light is the enemy of anything you pour, especially wine.

Speaker 9 (01:24:02):
And especially something that's in a white, clear bottle, right
like a chardonnay, and it's going to just chard nation,
uppy brown. If you've seen bottle shock, that was kind
of the issue behind the whole story was what.

Speaker 3 (01:24:15):
Is bottle shock?

Speaker 9 (01:24:16):
Bottle shock is when you bottle wine. And first of all,
it's a great movie. Absolutely, it's a documentary.

Speaker 3 (01:24:21):
It is not no, it's Chris Pine, Bill Pullman.

Speaker 5 (01:24:24):
Oh my gosh, you have to watch it.

Speaker 7 (01:24:25):
It is so good.

Speaker 3 (01:24:26):
Should have downloaded it for the plane.

Speaker 6 (01:24:27):
Oh and.

Speaker 9 (01:24:30):
So snape from Harry Potter Alan Okay, So it's about
the great blind of nineteen seventy six. First of all,
it is an amazing it's called Bottle Shock.

Speaker 3 (01:24:41):
It is an amazing wine movie.

Speaker 1 (01:24:42):
Wait stop, what was the great You said it like
I should know, like it was War of the Roses
or something great bottle what was that?

Speaker 3 (01:24:50):
Okay?

Speaker 9 (01:24:50):
So the Great Blind of nineteen seventy six was the
bi centennial obviously of us Steve Spurrier, who is portrayed
by Alan Rickman.

Speaker 3 (01:25:00):
It was football coach. No, okay, this is this is
tracking a wine snob kind of person.

Speaker 9 (01:25:07):
He was not happy with Alan Rickman's portrayal of him,
by the way, in this movie, of course, but he
was an expat brit living in Paris and his Parisian
nobody really kind of paid any attention to him because
he's a brit and the you know, French wine snobs thought, well,
you're a brit you don't you know know anything about wine.

Speaker 3 (01:25:26):
Well, you don't know anything about blow exactly we.

Speaker 5 (01:25:30):
Know about wine.

Speaker 9 (01:25:31):
So he came up with kind of a marketing idea
to have a great blind tasting. Somebody told him you
need to go check out these wines. These crazy farmers
in Napa are making some amazing wine. So he goes
out and so the story is basically how he kind
of discovers Chateau Montelena, Oh California wine wine brings several wines,

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so stags stags leap. It was the cap sab that
beat all of the French Bordeaux and they're red wines
of blind.

Speaker 5 (01:26:01):
Tasting and these were these were.

Speaker 9 (01:26:03):
Master psalms, chefs, Michelin.

Speaker 5 (01:26:06):
Star restaurant type stuff.

Speaker 9 (01:26:07):
I mean, these were the kreme de la krem of
of French wine that were judging it. And Chateau Montelena
chardonnay is the one that won for the white. They
couldn't believe it actually redid the whole because they did
not believe it. They thought that it was fixed somehow.
So they actually had another blind tasting. They're blind blinds

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and America. Still one's hilarious.

Speaker 5 (01:26:34):
You know, the French ship in service to watch this
movie so good. It's so good.

Speaker 3 (01:26:38):
Okay, So tell me about mister Bees.

Speaker 9 (01:26:40):
Mister Bees is a great I would call this more
of a specialty boutique wine store.

Speaker 3 (01:26:46):
They have three locations.

Speaker 9 (01:26:48):
They the the guys there were awesome and super friendly
and helpful, and they shared with me that the one
in the Golden Triangle is probably more specialty wine. If
you are, you know, desperate to find something specific, those
folks can probably help you out even more. But it's
just a local owned wine and liquor store. Great bourbon selection, fantastic,

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just spirits and craft beers.

Speaker 1 (01:27:12):
I just want to interject here and say this, A
great wine or liquor store should should operate like this,
and you should feel comfortable as a newbie knowing nothing.
So go in and say, look, here's what I'm serving,
here's what I kind of like. Can you direct me
into the right area?

Speaker 3 (01:27:28):
Can you help me?

Speaker 1 (01:27:28):
A great liquor store will do that, and knowledgeable wine
people are there, and most of the time, knowledgeable wine
people who work in a wine store they want to
share information with you.

Speaker 3 (01:27:39):
They want to help you find.

Speaker 1 (01:27:40):
Something that you absolutely love. They're all very motivated by
a love of wine. So don't be afraid to ask
for help. It's really that simple, it is.

Speaker 9 (01:27:49):
And you know, these guys were all great. They were
because when I walk in, I know what I'm looking at,
and so I don't.

Speaker 3 (01:27:55):
Really need a lot of assistance.

Speaker 1 (01:27:56):
But then when I started, I want you walk in, like,
excuse me, alp over here.

Speaker 9 (01:28:01):
Well, when I start asking more pointed questions, Hey, do
you carry any Colorado wine? Colorado wines? I never heard
of such and such and things like that, So do
you have your code question? I do have some a
few questions. I ask about tastings.

Speaker 3 (01:28:14):
I ask about.

Speaker 9 (01:28:15):
Specials because most reputable places are going to give you
like case discounts, and in this case, mister Bees gives
you if you buy six bottles, you get.

Speaker 3 (01:28:22):
A ten percent discount right by a case. I think
it's fifteen percent.

Speaker 5 (01:28:25):
I listed it on the block.

Speaker 9 (01:28:27):
But they also have they do offer a while not
a steady set wine tasting, complimentary tasting. On Fridays they
usually are tasting something. So today they're doing something with
Avalanche Brewing. So it's it's kind of a little bit
more variety because it's not just solely focused on wine.
But yeah, fantastic wine selection. I ended up picking up
a Sicilian read that I had a grape I've never

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heard of, and so because Italy has like thousands of
fit is fine for us.

Speaker 3 (01:28:52):
So I was pretty stoked about that and picked one
of those up. So let's talk about easters coming up
right around the corner. You say.

Speaker 1 (01:28:58):
We already talked about Saint Patrick's say will come by
to cool Swan in just a moment.

Speaker 3 (01:29:02):
You brought in a couple of bubbles today, and you
know I love the bubbles. Yes, and they are both.

Speaker 1 (01:29:07):
Oh you know why I like bubbles. You know, I
like sparkling wine. It feels like summer and celebration and fun.
There's nothing stodgy or boring. It's all like it feels
like a like a celebratory beverage. It feels like you've
been resurrected or just Jesus whatever, it's fine, be born

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or whatever. Yeah, it's fine, it's fine.

Speaker 9 (01:29:31):
But so yeah, no, these are and I know we're
probably going to get a text of she only brings
in Colorado wine. Well, I just happened to have been
last month for my birthday in Uay for the Winter
Wine Festival, and I had these two particular bubbles, and
I do know you love bubbles, and they're from places
I've never poured for you before.

Speaker 3 (01:29:48):
The first one is a Blanca blanc.

Speaker 9 (01:29:50):
It's actually when you said unicorn product, I thought you
were talking about the load Eye wine, but I actually
like because I don't like load Eye wine. But this
is a blanc to blanc, so one hundred percent shardina
coming out of lod Eye that Sutcliff Vineyards down.

Speaker 3 (01:30:02):
In Cortez has. This is freaking delicious. It is beautiful.
They have front range distribution, you know.

Speaker 9 (01:30:07):
They self distribute and you can have you can get
wine shipped for them. I have to follow up with
them if they do. If they do have front range
all the way up here, so TBD, I have to
reach out to them because I do want to go
see this vineyard down in Cortes because it just looks
absolutely stunning.

Speaker 3 (01:30:27):
So somebody just asked, what's your favorite Colorado wine? Really
depends on what I'm having, Like, actually, give me like.

Speaker 1 (01:30:34):
Top three, top five, not in any particular order. Just
give me a lot of the wines you love in
And here's the thing. I love that Crystal brings in
Colorado wines because there are a lot of wines on
the Western Slope that don't get a lot of play
over here. And I love supporting our local economy. I
love small growing this economy. And anybody can tell you
about a nap of wine or an old world wine,

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but I want to hear about people who are getting
it done here in Colorado, so I'm not I've never
said only bring Colorwao wines, but there's some great wines
that are being made here now.

Speaker 3 (01:31:05):
There are. In fact, I just poureded this Buckle sparkling rose.

Speaker 9 (01:31:10):
So buckle Is Family Wines is out of Gunnison. Joe
and Chamma Buckle have been making wine for that are
part of twenty years he has.

Speaker 3 (01:31:18):
Joe has ties to Cuckcliffe and yours.

Speaker 9 (01:31:20):
They're the ones down in Cortez that made the Blanc
to Blanc sparkling wine. I am loving some of buckles
wines right now. We did a wine maker dinner at
the Western Hotel in Ura on Valentine's Day and we
started with this rose and it's a Sarah and Bigner.

Speaker 3 (01:31:38):
It is absolutely.

Speaker 5 (01:31:42):
She's like, oh it paired.

Speaker 9 (01:31:44):
So it paid was just about everything we had because
I kept replenishing because I was just I was overboard
about this particular wine and it just was so beautiful
and it does not disappoint even when I you know,
because that's romantic. You're in Ura, You're at this beautiful
hotel and restaurant.

Speaker 1 (01:32:01):
So when I try it a second time, oh yes,
at home, yes, it stands out not just locationally, it's not.

Speaker 9 (01:32:07):
Just a memory type thing or yeah, location experience. So
really enjoy a.

Speaker 3 (01:32:12):
Lot of Buckle. Buckle.

Speaker 9 (01:32:13):
Also, I have been known to buy winemakers out of
certain wines that I like to roll to goo is
from Carboy or from Chill Switch. I've been known to
just how many cases do you have left? I'll take
them all. And the same thing with Buckle with their son.
So that's a red wine that they had that survived
the twenty twenty early freeze that killed most of the grapes.

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I ruined the crop in twenty twenty up in Grand
Valley Palisade area.

Speaker 3 (01:32:40):
But so I love Buckle. I love Storm Cellar for
my whites and rosees. She'll switch for my big juicy reds.
So let me ask this question because it.

Speaker 1 (01:32:49):
Came up earlier and I want to get it in.
Have you spoken to any of the wine shops that
you know? You're very well connected to the wine gallery
in Colorado Springs. What are they worried about with these tariffs?
Have they begun to to talk to their distributors? Have
there been any discussion about what that's going.

Speaker 3 (01:33:04):
To look like?

Speaker 9 (01:33:05):
So we've been dealing with a lot of issues already
in the wine industry. Pretty much since COVID, there's been
a backlog of just wine making in general, because Europe
was a little bit slower to kind of start opening
things back up.

Speaker 3 (01:33:21):
So when you're especially talking about old World wines.

Speaker 9 (01:33:24):
There's been already a shortage of wine, if you will.
There's also issues with bottles, actual glass to make the bottles,
the world lines to go into, so all of that
has already been happening most of I would say, less
about tariffs, more about people watching their spending. People are
not wanting and I would say probably prior to the

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new administration, people were already starting to pull back their
willingness to spend a lot of money on more expensive
lines and kind of going more with the ten to
fifteen dollar price point. So like, for example, most of
these wine stores, you have a plenty of stock because

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people are not necessarily oh so they're staying, and people
are sitting and not choosing, they're choosing like to spend
their money on that.

Speaker 1 (01:34:15):
Would it be wise to go ahead and stock up
on the wines you like? So if they are old
World wines.

Speaker 9 (01:34:19):
I always stock up on any wine I like, especially
if I find one that kind of uh you know,
it's tic tac toe a winner. And that's that's just
how I am programmed. Though I don't just buy one
bottle at a time. If I like a wine, right,
I'm going to go I'm going to go in and
buy a few of it. That way I can lay
them down, especially if they're red wines, so I can
lay them down and have them later.

Speaker 3 (01:34:40):
We have a couple of wine stores for you to
check out.

Speaker 1 (01:34:42):
We've got Casque and Craft off thirty eighth in tay Hoone.
They said they have some very interesting wine options. And
then this one says mandy and wine Yogi. I was
driving uber and drove the owner of Persona Wine in Boulder,
which is a natural wine store, tell us the natural
wines versus commercial ones. What's the difference? So, basically, because
we're almost out a time, we want to play of

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the day.

Speaker 3 (01:35:04):
Yeah.

Speaker 9 (01:35:04):
So natural winds, like with anything that's labeled natural, it
really just depends on your definition of natural.

Speaker 5 (01:35:09):
Right, So what you want to look for if you.

Speaker 9 (01:35:11):
Are concerned about things getting into your wine, you want
to look for certified, organic, certified, biodynamic.

Speaker 3 (01:35:18):
Uh.

Speaker 9 (01:35:18):
In fact, uh Some of the wines I'm tasting this
weekend at the Wine Gallery are certified organic and biodynamic,
which means sustainably farmed. Natural is just kind of like
when you it's a marketing orders. It's a marketing work,
so you really want to start kind of diping down
into figuring out what do they mean by natural.

Speaker 3 (01:35:36):
It could be harvesting by moonlight. That's how I like
to harvest.

Speaker 1 (01:35:41):
Yeah, naked in the moonlight. That's when I harvest my grapes.
That's not happening. I don't eat grapes, is like eating eyeballs.
Chuck has come in because he's pick me up and take.

Speaker 3 (01:35:51):
Me to the airport with him, and he's going to
try He's gotta try this the super fuw.

Speaker 1 (01:35:54):
You know, oh my gosh, we haven't even gotten this
crystal broad in this low car bread.

Speaker 3 (01:36:00):
Babe, you're not even ready. You're not even ready for
this bread. Okay, try oh no, try to croissant first.

Speaker 9 (01:36:07):
So we had a we had hero Bread croissant cheddar
biscuit hero Bread dot com.

Speaker 3 (01:36:12):
It is, oh my god, damn bread. But if you're
looking for low carbread that actually tastes and feels like bread,
they have cracks of code and it iss like, what
what is it again? I know it's so expensive, babe,
but we're gonna order someone bo.

Speaker 6 (01:36:30):
She when you used to do the show from home,
she would come in, So come downstairs and have a
shmortgage sport.

Speaker 3 (01:36:34):
Yeah, and everything she brought in. There's even stuff I
didn't like. I cried, because you bring in stuff that
I like, and you do get a discount if you subscribe.

Speaker 1 (01:36:43):
Yes, here, we'll make that a hero bread if you're
looking for low car bread. I'm so good, I told
Crystal earlier. I said, I kind of feel like this
is going to be like frozen yogurt in the eighties
and nineties, where we were all told frozen yogurt was
healthy and then we just all got fat from eating
frozen yogurt because.

Speaker 9 (01:36:58):
It was by yeah gcby Baby's so good.

Speaker 3 (01:37:03):
Anyway. Now it's time for the most exciting segment on
the radio on its guide in the world of the day.

Speaker 1 (01:37:12):
Okay, we got to do a speed round here because
we're almost out of time. What is our dad joke
of the day, Please, Zach Dad that music out just
the bitch.

Speaker 5 (01:37:20):
Yeah, there you go, Dad Joke of the day today.

Speaker 6 (01:37:22):
What's the difference between a well dressed man on a
unicycle and a poorly dressed man on a bicycle?

Speaker 4 (01:37:30):
Am?

Speaker 3 (01:37:31):
I don't know? Oh? She was so close attire?

Speaker 5 (01:37:35):
Boo.

Speaker 3 (01:37:39):
What's the day's word of the day? Got a good
word of the day today? Bamboozle.

Speaker 1 (01:37:44):
Oh, bamboozle means to puzzle over somebody's eyes.

Speaker 5 (01:37:47):
To fool hm, bamboozled seem from him too?

Speaker 4 (01:37:50):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:37:50):
Exactly correct? All right. Today's trivia question.

Speaker 1 (01:37:53):
Who invented the allie, a skateboarding trick in which the
skater makes the board pop into the air by kicking
the tail of the board down while jumping. I'm gonna
say Tony Hawk because he's able.

Speaker 3 (01:38:04):
Only one I know and I'm wrong. Just to let
you know.

Speaker 1 (01:38:07):
Guy named Ali, Yes Alan Olie Gilfriend pioneered the trick
in nineteen seventy seven. The ali is now a staple
move in skateboarding, and often one of the first tricks
new skaters learn.