THAT TIME NPR PARTICIPATED IN THE GOVERNMENT COVERUP You know I'm talking about Covid and this column by David Strom at Hotair.com is about an NPR interview with a guy who has written a new book about how NPR silenced stories that didn't fit the narrative and now these people are going to PROFIT off their own malfeasance by writing books about it! THE NERVE. David joins me at 1pm to discuss it.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You know, I know people in high places, and when
I need things done, I reach out to my incredible
network and I say, hey, look, hotair dot com. I
know you've put this great column by my friend David
Strom behind a paywall, but.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
I want my listeners to be able to see it
for free.
Speaker 1 (00:17):
And because we asked and Hot Air listened, you can
now find David Strom's great story about NPR un behind well,
free to everyone, but only for twenty four hours.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
So go check it out. As I welcome David Strom
to the show. Good to see you again, welcome back
to the show.
Speaker 3 (00:35):
Well, it's always a pleasure to be on and thank
god that we got this going because I didn't put
on my white makeup.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
There you go.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
You know, you and I I actually really started reading
your stuff, specifically.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
On Hot Air during COVID. And I mean.
Speaker 1 (00:53):
It's not to say that I wasn't reading it before, right,
but I started paying attention because you and I were
on the same page. We were very much on the
same page, questioning, masking, questioning these arbitrary spacing rules, questioning
pretty much everything we were being told about COVID, and
you followed the media narrative pretty closely. And this almost
(01:13):
feels like we've almost come full circle with the story
that you have today. Give a better overview of what's
in this story that I was about to do.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
Yeah, well, I.
Speaker 3 (01:24):
Mean I did something that very few and a number
of other people did as well, but that very few
people in the mainstream or what I call the props
the media do, which is read around. I read what
the establishment people said and didn't assume it was right
or wrong, and I read what the critics said and
(01:45):
didn't assume it was right or wrong. And one of
the things that became absolutely clear to me is that
not only were the critics right on just about everything,
people like Jay Badakaria, who's now at the National Institute
of Health in a POSAD, who just got hired on
as well for the Trump administration, neither of whom was
(02:07):
a political person during COVID. But I started reading around
those guys, and what I found was that you could
discover any you know, the scientific facts, not without too
much difficulty, as long as you didn't trust the mainstream media,
(02:30):
which is parenting one side of the story and really
working extremely hard to debunk to Schlander or anyone who
disagreed and now you're getting you know, it's not quite
the same thing as that. Now it can be told
(02:52):
stories that we're seeing about Joe Biden where the narrative
is flipping. But we're getting into that category now where people.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
Yeah, the whole And this is the one that got
me because when the Great Bearrington Declaration came out, I
talked about it on this show and I was like, look,
this makes perfect sense. This is our pandemic policy. As
a matter of fact, we veered so far away from
our agreed upon pandemic policies that had been sort of
set after years of studying about masks and do they
(03:25):
work for viral infections and all of this stuff. And
now we find out that not only did NPR not
report on it when they tried to, they essentially said
we would be amplifying misinformation, therefore making an editorial judgment
about the content of the story they should have been doing,
and then killing the story before it can get started.
(03:45):
And in all honesty, are they now trying to sell
me as like they're uncovering this news for the first time.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
That's insulting.
Speaker 3 (03:53):
David Well, it is insulting, And this is what's happening
on a number of issues, says, it's become clear that
you can no longer deny that, say, the six foot
distance and social distancing was just made up out of
someone's nether region. The data on masking was pretty clear
(04:16):
before COVID. Uh. By the way, the National Founder did
not sponsor one study double blind. Yeah, no studies on masks,
no studies on any of the controversial things, because they
did not want to know. And you know, here we're
(04:37):
having on NPR this intellectual discussion with a guy who
wrote a book on how the media just blew it,
and NPR is saying, well, you know, we were We
actually did a pretty good job, although it admittedly our
editors didn't want us to cover certain things because they
(05:00):
didn't want to cloud the narrative. You know, even allowing
someone to say something that is true and obviously true
that contradicts what Tauchy or Burke so the CDC said,
is giving aid and comfort to the enemy.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
I love the part of this interview that you blurb
in this story where they say, and that's what I
try to excloplate explicate in my book is that we
were living in a very misinformed sort of media bubble
in much of the United States, and then the interviewer says, so,
were you saying that outside those particular bubbles and you
(05:40):
can identify them in a minute, people had more accurate
sense as to what was going on, And he says, yeah,
I think that's right absolutely.
Speaker 4 (05:49):
I mean, dude, yeah, the look there is no I mean,
if you just spent fifteen men on x or at
the time Twitter and read things around, I mean you
could find.
Speaker 3 (06:08):
You know, scientific studies. For instance, the Cleveland Clinic very
early on it studies themselves on masks. They have fifty
thousand employees. They're at the number one or number two
medical institution in the country. They and Mayo Clinic. So
with say vaccines and mass. With mass, what they found
(06:30):
out was it is impossible, even in a medical setting
where you have doctors who are trained, to get enough
compliance even if the mask work for it to make
a difference. Even doctors would take you put on masks,
take them off, leave gaps, reuse the mask, and you know,
(06:56):
people wound up just because you can't live life the
way that they were doing it, not being they just
weren't able to use the mask. But of course that
was surprissed. I mean I read that study and yet
it was never ever discussed in the mainstream.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
But David, it's even worse than that the Danish mask study,
which was a true, you know, random control trial, and
you have one group of people that are committed to
wearing a mask every time they go outside and the
other side says, I'm never covering my face.
Speaker 2 (07:29):
And when that study came out, there.
Speaker 1 (07:32):
Was a collective push by the.
Speaker 2 (07:34):
Media to discredit it.
Speaker 1 (07:36):
For I still can't figure out how they thought they
were going to discredit it. It was an actual random
control trial, so it wasn't just not reporting on some stuff.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
It was actively trying.
Speaker 1 (07:46):
To torpedo the studies that did show that masking didn't work.
And then they propped up that Bangladeshi idiot study that
was horrible. It was just all of this stuff was
making me nuts. I think you gave me flashbacks with
this column.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
I'm not going to lie.
Speaker 4 (08:02):
Oh yeah, it's horrible.
Speaker 3 (08:04):
I mean, another Cleveland Clinic study shows that the more
vaccinations you get against COVID, the more likely you are
to get it, and by quite a bit. And they
have done two studies with again fifty thousand of their
own employees that show the ones who got the fewest
(08:24):
number of vaccinations got COVID the least, and so you know,
time and again and with the Great Barrenton Declaration, obviously
it came down from the top. You were going to
debunk this, you were going to suppress it, And it
went all the way from the top science magazines. We're
(08:45):
talking about the Lancet Nature, you know, the New England
journalist Medison put out the word that you are going
to trash this, you are going to trash need the
sen And there was a reason for that, and there's
a reason why the media collaborated with the people at
(09:09):
the top, and it boils down to this. They think
the American people are too stupid to make their own decisions.
And so what you need is this very simple and
absoluted message that goes out there. And you could actually
(09:30):
go and dig into the transcripts of meetings that the
CDC and the NIH where they will talk about this
and just say, well, yeah, we don't really know this,
but if we tell people that they won't do what
we want them to do.
Speaker 1 (09:46):
Well, and I was going to say, I think there's
an even more nefarious purpose to the mask orders and
the made up social distancing, you know, or I think
it's conditioning, you know. I think they are conditioning us
to do what the government tells us to do.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
So much.
Speaker 1 (10:01):
So let me read this text message I just got
on the Common Spirit Health text line at five six
six nine.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
Zero, Mandy.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
They used distancing during the Spanish flu pandemic of nineteen
eighteen masks.
Speaker 2 (10:12):
As well, so it's been used before.
Speaker 1 (10:14):
Yeah, back then, they probably still bled people who were
having certain illnesses because medicine was so archaic. Guys, one
more time. I'm just give me a moment, David. I'm
telling you I'm having flashbacks right now. Give me a second.
Because we our own CDC did studies during the Stars
outbreak in two thousand and eight and two thousand and nine,
and they proved that there was really no effect to
(10:36):
wearing a mask when you're talking about an airborne illness
like influenza or an influenza like illness like COVID. Our
own doctors, our own studies had already showed this, but
because we were behind the eight ball and government had
to look like they were doing something, they pulled that
one out of thin air and went with it, and
it was so dumb and so frustrating. And this person
(10:57):
still believes that masks are effective.
Speaker 3 (11:00):
Yeah. Well, I had this conversation with my dad, who
bought every single narrative on COVID, and we did a
trip in twenty twenty one, and you know, he carried
around in ninety five masks in his pocket and he
put it on every time he went inside anywhere, and
it was the same mass, and a lot of people
(11:22):
did that, and so I just asked them to do
First of all, it's you know, the reason why I
end ninety five masks are used. They don't really work
against viruses. They do against certain things, but the only
reason why they work better than a surgical mask is
because it's supposed to be completely covered, tight around everything. Right.
(11:45):
In fact, the proper way to use them is to
tape it to your faith. So they're there are no gangs,
and you know, so I just asked them. So you know,
you're walking around, you got this thing in your pocket,
you put it on, you take it off if you
handle it, and back and forth. What's on the inside
of that mask? You know, you just handled that thing,
(12:10):
you know, and your hand is outside everything else. And
you know, it really was pure conditioning. He was told
to wear a mask. This is a mask, and you know,
it never ever occurred to him that he was actually
putting the virus closer to his face with a higher
(12:31):
conation than if you were just breathing. And you know it,
it really shows that what they were trying to do
was short circuit the rational mind. You know, the constant repetition,
the unanimity, all of those things were, as you said,
(12:52):
to condition people to obey. Yeah, and I think a
lot of these people genuinely believe that they were doing good.
Some of them knew better, I mean absolutely new better,
but you know, some of them thought they were genuinely
doing good. But it's based upon the fundamental notion that
(13:17):
human beings are stupid, irrational beings that have to be
ruled by technocrats who tell them what to do, and
the sheer arrogance. And by the way, if you go
and you read the ethics statements of public health schools,
(13:37):
it tells them exactly the opposite that. You know, one
of the things that's crucial in public health context is
be absolutely honest, give people all the information costs and
benefits and allow them to make rational decisions, because, uh,
(14:00):
you know, otherwise, what you're doing is you're undermining the
fundamental autonomy of human beings.
Speaker 1 (14:07):
And not only that, I mean, how many of us
if the government comes to us and says we have
another situation, all of us are just going to give
them the middle finger and not even entertain it, right.
I mean, it's like, how many times do you have
to fool us before we stop paying attention to what
you're saying, which undermines, you know, an actual public health
situation where we may need to do excessive measures. I
(14:29):
can't imagine what that would be. But at the same time,
I don't trust him anymore.
Speaker 3 (14:34):
Well, and really, I mean at its most basic, you
hear the public health people really offend it. You know,
OURFK is in there and he's pushing vaccine skepticism. It's
like the people who push vaccine skepticism the most where
the people who lied to us again and again and
(14:54):
again about the COVID vaccine. Why should we trust you
on anything? And the answer is well, probably we shouldn't
because you have a proven track record of lying. It
makes you reconsider everything. Uh, And I think I encourage
(15:16):
people to reframe how they think about public health advice
and just reframe it in terms of what we're told
about nutrition and what we've been told about nutrition over time. Uh,
they're always wrong. Uh the you know, the science is
(15:36):
generally bad. You know. Ever since they've put together the
food pyramid, Americans have gotten battered and less healthy diabetes.
Speaker 1 (15:46):
Okay, David that No, we're gonna put a pin in
this because that is a whole You just hit my
pet project right there. I mean, because those those food
pyramid crap was written by food manufacturers. It wasn't written
by nutritionists. It wasn't written it was my lobbyist. So
you're to your point, why are we listening to the government.
I hate to be that person because I want government
(16:07):
to work. I mean, I know, you know, I'm a
small government person. But whatever the government is that we have,
I want it to work and be reliable and serve
the American people. We'll take up the nutrition conversation at
a later time.
Speaker 2 (16:18):
My friend.
Speaker 3 (16:20):
That sounds wonderful.
Speaker 2 (16:21):
Oh, by the way, I.
Speaker 1 (16:22):
Want to reiterate that today and today only, David made
this whole article free. It's normally for VIP members. I
didn't even realize it was a VIP because I am
a VIP.
Speaker 2 (16:33):
I give them money every month, not very.
Speaker 1 (16:34):
Much, but I love Hot Air, I love its sister
and brother sites and use them all the time. So
David Strong, keep up the good work. My friend will
talk again soon.
Speaker 3 (16:43):
Sounds great, Mandy, all right, Thanks buddy,
You know, I know people in high places, and when
I need things done, I reach out to my incredible
network and I say, hey, look, hotair dot com. I
know you've put this great column by my friend David
Strom behind a paywall, but.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
I want my listeners to be able to see it
for free.
Speaker 1 (00:17):
And because we asked and Hot Air listened, you can
now find David Strom's great story about NPR un behind well,
free to everyone, but only for twenty four hours.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
So go check it out. As I welcome David Strom
to the show. Good to see you again, welcome back
to the show.
Speaker 3 (00:35):
Well, it's always a pleasure to be on and thank
god that we got this going because I didn't put
on my white makeup.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
There you go.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
You know, you and I I actually really started reading
your stuff, specifically.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
On Hot Air during COVID. And I mean.
Speaker 1 (00:53):
It's not to say that I wasn't reading it before, right,
but I started paying attention because you and I were
on the same page. We were very much on the
same page, questioning, masking, questioning these arbitrary spacing rules, questioning
pretty much everything we were being told about COVID, and
you followed the media narrative pretty closely. And this almost
(01:13):
feels like we've almost come full circle with the story
that you have today. Give a better overview of what's
in this story that I was about to do.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
Yeah, well, I.
Speaker 3 (01:24):
Mean I did something that very few and a number
of other people did as well, but that very few
people in the mainstream or what I call the props
the media do, which is read around. I read what
the establishment people said and didn't assume it was right
or wrong, and I read what the critics said and
(01:45):
didn't assume it was right or wrong. And one of
the things that became absolutely clear to me is that
not only were the critics right on just about everything,
people like Jay Badakaria, who's now at the National Institute
of Health in a POSAD, who just got hired on
as well for the Trump administration, neither of whom was
(02:07):
a political person during COVID. But I started reading around
those guys, and what I found was that you could
discover any you know, the scientific facts, not without too
much difficulty, as long as you didn't trust the mainstream media,
(02:30):
which is parenting one side of the story and really
working extremely hard to debunk to Schlander or anyone who
disagreed and now you're getting you know, it's not quite
the same thing as that. Now it can be told
(02:52):
stories that we're seeing about Joe Biden where the narrative
is flipping. But we're getting into that category now where people.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
Yeah, the whole And this is the one that got
me because when the Great Bearrington Declaration came out, I
talked about it on this show and I was like, look,
this makes perfect sense. This is our pandemic policy. As
a matter of fact, we veered so far away from
our agreed upon pandemic policies that had been sort of
set after years of studying about masks and do they
(03:25):
work for viral infections and all of this stuff. And
now we find out that not only did NPR not
report on it when they tried to, they essentially said
we would be amplifying misinformation, therefore making an editorial judgment
about the content of the story they should have been doing,
and then killing the story before it can get started.
(03:45):
And in all honesty, are they now trying to sell
me as like they're uncovering this news for the first time.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
That's insulting.
Speaker 3 (03:53):
David Well, it is insulting, And this is what's happening
on a number of issues, says, it's become clear that
you can no longer deny that, say, the six foot
distance and social distancing was just made up out of
someone's nether region. The data on masking was pretty clear
(04:16):
before COVID. Uh. By the way, the National Founder did
not sponsor one study double blind. Yeah, no studies on masks,
no studies on any of the controversial things, because they
did not want to know. And you know, here we're
(04:37):
having on NPR this intellectual discussion with a guy who
wrote a book on how the media just blew it,
and NPR is saying, well, you know, we were We
actually did a pretty good job, although it admittedly our
editors didn't want us to cover certain things because they
(05:00):
didn't want to cloud the narrative. You know, even allowing
someone to say something that is true and obviously true
that contradicts what Tauchy or Burke so the CDC said,
is giving aid and comfort to the enemy.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
I love the part of this interview that you blurb
in this story where they say, and that's what I
try to excloplate explicate in my book is that we
were living in a very misinformed sort of media bubble
in much of the United States, and then the interviewer says, so,
were you saying that outside those particular bubbles and you
(05:40):
can identify them in a minute, people had more accurate
sense as to what was going on, And he says, yeah,
I think that's right absolutely.
Speaker 4 (05:49):
I mean, dude, yeah, the look there is no I mean,
if you just spent fifteen men on x or at
the time Twitter and read things around, I mean you
could find.
Speaker 3 (06:08):
You know, scientific studies. For instance, the Cleveland Clinic very
early on it studies themselves on masks. They have fifty
thousand employees. They're at the number one or number two
medical institution in the country. They and Mayo Clinic. So
with say vaccines and mass. With mass, what they found
(06:30):
out was it is impossible, even in a medical setting
where you have doctors who are trained, to get enough
compliance even if the mask work for it to make
a difference. Even doctors would take you put on masks,
take them off, leave gaps, reuse the mask, and you know,
(06:56):
people wound up just because you can't live life the
way that they were doing it, not being they just
weren't able to use the mask. But of course that
was surprissed. I mean I read that study and yet
it was never ever discussed in the mainstream.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
But David, it's even worse than that the Danish mask study,
which was a true, you know, random control trial, and
you have one group of people that are committed to
wearing a mask every time they go outside and the
other side says, I'm never covering my face.
Speaker 2 (07:29):
And when that study came out, there.
Speaker 1 (07:32):
Was a collective push by the.
Speaker 2 (07:34):
Media to discredit it.
Speaker 1 (07:36):
For I still can't figure out how they thought they
were going to discredit it. It was an actual random
control trial, so it wasn't just not reporting on some stuff.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
It was actively trying.
Speaker 1 (07:46):
To torpedo the studies that did show that masking didn't work.
And then they propped up that Bangladeshi idiot study that
was horrible. It was just all of this stuff was
making me nuts. I think you gave me flashbacks with
this column.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
I'm not going to lie.
Speaker 4 (08:02):
Oh yeah, it's horrible.
Speaker 3 (08:04):
I mean, another Cleveland Clinic study shows that the more
vaccinations you get against COVID, the more likely you are
to get it, and by quite a bit. And they
have done two studies with again fifty thousand of their
own employees that show the ones who got the fewest
(08:24):
number of vaccinations got COVID the least, and so you know,
time and again and with the Great Barrenton Declaration, obviously
it came down from the top. You were going to
debunk this, you were going to suppress it, And it
went all the way from the top science magazines. We're
(08:45):
talking about the Lancet Nature, you know, the New England
journalist Medison put out the word that you are going
to trash this, you are going to trash need the
sen And there was a reason for that, and there's
a reason why the media collaborated with the people at
(09:09):
the top, and it boils down to this. They think
the American people are too stupid to make their own decisions.
And so what you need is this very simple and
absoluted message that goes out there. And you could actually
(09:30):
go and dig into the transcripts of meetings that the
CDC and the NIH where they will talk about this
and just say, well, yeah, we don't really know this,
but if we tell people that they won't do what
we want them to do.
Speaker 1 (09:46):
Well, and I was going to say, I think there's
an even more nefarious purpose to the mask orders and
the made up social distancing, you know, or I think
it's conditioning, you know. I think they are conditioning us
to do what the government tells us to do.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
So much.
Speaker 1 (10:01):
So let me read this text message I just got
on the Common Spirit Health text line at five six
six nine.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
Zero, Mandy.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
They used distancing during the Spanish flu pandemic of nineteen
eighteen masks.
Speaker 2 (10:12):
As well, so it's been used before.
Speaker 1 (10:14):
Yeah, back then, they probably still bled people who were
having certain illnesses because medicine was so archaic. Guys, one
more time. I'm just give me a moment, David. I'm
telling you I'm having flashbacks right now. Give me a second.
Because we our own CDC did studies during the Stars
outbreak in two thousand and eight and two thousand and nine,
and they proved that there was really no effect to
(10:36):
wearing a mask when you're talking about an airborne illness
like influenza or an influenza like illness like COVID. Our
own doctors, our own studies had already showed this, but
because we were behind the eight ball and government had
to look like they were doing something, they pulled that
one out of thin air and went with it, and
it was so dumb and so frustrating. And this person
(10:57):
still believes that masks are effective.
Speaker 3 (11:00):
Yeah. Well, I had this conversation with my dad, who
bought every single narrative on COVID, and we did a
trip in twenty twenty one, and you know, he carried
around in ninety five masks in his pocket and he
put it on every time he went inside anywhere, and
it was the same mass, and a lot of people
(11:22):
did that, and so I just asked them to do
First of all, it's you know, the reason why I
end ninety five masks are used. They don't really work
against viruses. They do against certain things, but the only
reason why they work better than a surgical mask is
because it's supposed to be completely covered, tight around everything. Right.
(11:45):
In fact, the proper way to use them is to
tape it to your faith. So they're there are no gangs,
and you know, so I just asked them. So you know,
you're walking around, you got this thing in your pocket,
you put it on, you take it off if you
handle it, and back and forth. What's on the inside
of that mask? You know, you just handled that thing,
(12:10):
you know, and your hand is outside everything else. And
you know, it really was pure conditioning. He was told
to wear a mask. This is a mask, and you know,
it never ever occurred to him that he was actually
putting the virus closer to his face with a higher
(12:31):
conation than if you were just breathing. And you know it,
it really shows that what they were trying to do
was short circuit the rational mind. You know, the constant repetition,
the unanimity, all of those things were, as you said,
(12:52):
to condition people to obey. Yeah, and I think a
lot of these people genuinely believe that they were doing good.
Some of them knew better, I mean absolutely new better,
but you know, some of them thought they were genuinely
doing good. But it's based upon the fundamental notion that
(13:17):
human beings are stupid, irrational beings that have to be
ruled by technocrats who tell them what to do, and
the sheer arrogance. And by the way, if you go
and you read the ethics statements of public health schools,
(13:37):
it tells them exactly the opposite that. You know, one
of the things that's crucial in public health context is
be absolutely honest, give people all the information costs and
benefits and allow them to make rational decisions, because, uh,
(14:00):
you know, otherwise, what you're doing is you're undermining the
fundamental autonomy of human beings.
Speaker 1 (14:07):
And not only that, I mean, how many of us
if the government comes to us and says we have
another situation, all of us are just going to give
them the middle finger and not even entertain it, right.
I mean, it's like, how many times do you have
to fool us before we stop paying attention to what
you're saying, which undermines, you know, an actual public health
situation where we may need to do excessive measures. I
(14:29):
can't imagine what that would be. But at the same time,
I don't trust him anymore.
Speaker 3 (14:34):
Well, and really, I mean at its most basic, you
hear the public health people really offend it. You know,
OURFK is in there and he's pushing vaccine skepticism. It's
like the people who push vaccine skepticism the most where
the people who lied to us again and again and
(14:54):
again about the COVID vaccine. Why should we trust you
on anything? And the answer is well, probably we shouldn't
because you have a proven track record of lying. It
makes you reconsider everything. Uh, And I think I encourage
(15:16):
people to reframe how they think about public health advice
and just reframe it in terms of what we're told
about nutrition and what we've been told about nutrition over time. Uh,
they're always wrong. Uh the you know, the science is
(15:36):
generally bad. You know. Ever since they've put together the
food pyramid, Americans have gotten battered and less healthy diabetes.
Speaker 1 (15:46):
Okay, David that No, we're gonna put a pin in
this because that is a whole You just hit my
pet project right there. I mean, because those those food
pyramid crap was written by food manufacturers. It wasn't written
by nutritionists. It wasn't written it was my lobbyist. So
you're to your point, why are we listening to the government.
I hate to be that person because I want government
(16:07):
to work. I mean, I know, you know, I'm a
small government person. But whatever the government is that we have,
I want it to work and be reliable and serve
the American people. We'll take up the nutrition conversation at
a later time.
Speaker 2 (16:18):
My friend.
Speaker 3 (16:20):
That sounds wonderful.
Speaker 2 (16:21):
Oh, by the way, I.
Speaker 1 (16:22):
Want to reiterate that today and today only, David made
this whole article free. It's normally for VIP members. I
didn't even realize it was a VIP because I am
a VIP.
Speaker 2 (16:33):
I give them money every month, not very.
Speaker 1 (16:34):
Much, but I love Hot Air, I love its sister
and brother sites and use them all the time. So
David Strong, keep up the good work. My friend will
talk again soon.
Speaker 3 (16:43):
Sounds great, Mandy, all right, Thanks buddy,
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