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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Jimmy Sangenberger back with you today and the following three
days of The Mandy Connell Show Monday, Tuesday, and Wednesday,
filling in for the ever traveling Mandy. And you know,
it is great to be with you on a Friday
when there has been so much that has gone on
(00:20):
over the course of this week that has just been
a whirlwind.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
I remember at the end.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
Of the show on Wednesday, I was talking to Zach like, Hey,
we need to let the sports guys know we are
going to take an extra hour because we have so much,
so much to work on, and I would rather talk
about and yes, to work on as a country, as
a world never ending, especially now that there has been
(00:54):
a strike from Israel on Iran, a very significant development
to be sure. Now the IDF is reporting that missiles
have been detected launched toward Israel, of course, in retaliation
for Israel's strike yesterday. There were a number of signs
(01:16):
going on being given that this was going to happen.
The US was evacuating installations around the Middle East to
protect the public and protect their personnel and make sure
that they were safe with what was known to becoming.
(01:41):
Of course, this strike now This is another example of
something very fascinating in the sense of Israel being able
to do an attack of this scale, this magnitude, in
this level of surprise and detail because of all the
different facets, from the nuclear scientists, senior military leaders including
(02:05):
the head of the Iranian Revolutionary Guard, to the nuclear
installations and more. It calls back to mind for me,
the pagers incident last year with Hesbola. Remember when they
set off thousands of pagers explode to explode. That was
(02:27):
a massive surprise attack. This again very similar in that respect,
just different size and scale and type of attack, but
still one that took an amazing amount of intelligence and
smarts in terms.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
Of how to actually get the job done.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
Here is the Prime Minister of Israel bib Netnyahoo announcing
Operation Rising Lion last night.
Speaker 3 (02:54):
Moments ago, Israel launched Operation Rising Lion, i targeted military
operation to roll back the uranium threat to Israel's very survival.
This operation will continue for as many days as it
takes to remove this threat. For decades, the tyrants of
Tehran have brazenly openly called for Israel's destruction. They've backed
(03:18):
up their genocidal rhetoric with a program to develop nuclear weapons.
In recent years, Iran has produced enough highly enriched uranium
for nine atom bombs. Nine In recent months, Iran has
taken steps that it has never taken before, steps to
weaponize this enriched uranium. And if not stopped, Iran could
(03:42):
produce a nuclear weapon in a very short time. It
could be a year, it could be within a few months,
less than a year. This is a clear and present
danger to Israel's very survival, A.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
Clear and present danger to Israel's very survival, which to
me strikes true.
Speaker 2 (03:59):
Here's what we know.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
Oh, the head of the Iranian Revolutionary Guard, commander, the
commander hass Hassian Salami, and two other generals were killed,
which definitely, as the Wall Street Journal put it, punched
a hole into Ihran's military leadership. Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Nanyah,
who said the military operation would last as many days
(04:22):
as it takes Israel planned fourteen days of operations, according
to his senior Israeli official, and long before Israel's attacks,
agents smuggled explosive drones and other guided weapons into Iran,
according to an official, nan Yahoo and Defense Minister Israel
(04:43):
kap Cats decided Monday that the attack would begin Friday
local time, in official said, and of course we've seen
oil prices have been climbing as a result. Iran's foreign
minister has asked the United Nations to condemn israel attack
on the country's military and nuclear sites, saying in a
(05:04):
letter that the actions quote amount to a declaration of
war against the Islamic Republic of Iran. And it is
rather interesting as well to see a statement from the
Kingdom of Saudi Arabia expressing its strong condemnation and denunciation
of the blatant Israeli aggressions against the brotherlye Islamic Republic
(05:25):
of Iran, which undermine its sovereignty and security and constitute
a clear violation of international laws and norms, which I
think is I don't think they wrote that with a
straight face.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
To be honest.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
One of the big reasons that we even have the
Abraham Accords brought about during the first Trump administration is
because the Gulf Arab States were very concerned about Iran.
And there's that old I think Arabic proverb the enemy
of my enemy is my friend, and that's what brought
them together with Israel for a number of Arab countries
(06:04):
and even Saudi Arabia basically telling those countries it's.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
Okay, go ahead, sign the deal.
Speaker 1 (06:09):
Plus, as I understand it, you need Saudi Arabia to
agree for airspace to be used by Israel for this.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
Strike to happen.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
So they're saying they condemn it, but do they really?
Fascinating times, let's break it down with somebody who can
help us understand how the intelligence gathering could get to
this point and what happens to make this such a
success from the standpoint of preparation and more. Keith Nobles
(06:42):
is a longtime a military intelligence contractor, particularly during the
last decade of the Cold War. He's author of multiple books,
including Breaking the Zeitgeist How to Be Happy in a
World Gone in saying he joins me now, Keith, welcome
back to KOA.
Speaker 4 (06:58):
Hey, Jeffy, how are you? Thank you for having me on.
Speaker 1 (07:01):
I'm doing well, my friends, thanks for joining us. I
want to just throw you a very broad question. How
do you look at what happened last night and what
has gone on since Israel struck Iran?
Speaker 4 (07:13):
Well, Jimmy, there's a little joke that one third of
the people of the Iranian regime or THESSAD ages. It
looked like maybe that's less of a joke that it
was true. It's obvious Israel has thoroughly infiltrated Iran. I mean,
I think you mentioned in your intro there that there
(07:35):
are reports that Israel did very similar to what Ukraine
did Russia just a couple of weeks ago, and had
drones actually within inside of Iran that they launched at
targets from inside Iran. There are reports that some of
these targeted assassinations were not by missile or bomb, but
(07:57):
that we're actual Israeli agent who convected the assassinations, and
that there's UH at Israeli base the fact though base
operating inside of Iran from which they're they're convecting these activities.
And that to the point about the Saudi Arabia UH
(08:19):
proclamation last night, UH, the the weakness of the Iranian response.
They launched one hundred drones, none of their ballistic missiles
are appuarly still available to them to launch, but that
Saudi Arabian the OE shotdown some of those Iranian drones
themselves last night. So yeah, Iran is in a very
(08:41):
bad spot obviously, they've they've been thoroughly infiltrated by by
Israel all up and down the line.
Speaker 1 (08:48):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (08:48):
The other part about that, that's interesting. It's been fought
that the deepest underground Iranian nuclear facilities would require specific
lobs that manufacturer of the United States and the Israeli
is as best we know, do not have an aircraft
that would be capable of carrying that bomb. And that's
always been about to be the limit on Israel wighting
(09:12):
out the Arabian nuclear program. Given what we've seen in
this level of Israeli infiltration into Iran, Israel may very
well have a different method to destroy those those very
deepest bunkers.
Speaker 1 (09:26):
Keith Nobles, our guest Israeli Defense Forces, the our Israel
Defense Forces IDF identifying a missiles launched from Iran toward
Israel at this.
Speaker 2 (09:37):
Moment above a Tel Aviv.
Speaker 1 (09:39):
They say that their missile defense system, the Iron Dome,
is activated. I think it's the Iron Dome one that
would address that, but is activated to provide that defense.
When you look at the signs, let's talk for a moment,
because you were sending me a number of different indicators
on Thursday, or rather on Wednesday.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
That this was on the verge of happening.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
You said, looks like this strike is going to happen,
and they were evacuating US facilities. There were other signs.
What are some of those things that were done that
gave you this sense, Okay, this is going to happen.
Speaker 4 (10:15):
At this point, we evacuated most of the people have
the Dagdat Embassy, Paul raid UAE dependents were basically told
to depart, and then we evacuated a number of our
non combat aircraft out of the Persian Gulf and blew
(10:37):
them off somewhere to the west. So the United States
took the steps that they would anticipate the possibility of
Iranian retaliation against the United States facilities and forces in
the Middle East, especially in the Persian Gulf and obviously
in Iraq, where there are still a cons terrible number
(11:00):
of militias, sponsored, funded and armed by Iran that are
are active in Iraq. And that's that's the vulnerability to
any of the American assets. See the government and non
government that may be in Iraq, are those malicious? And
of course we have the Iranian motif has been terror
(11:24):
inside Iran and outside of Iran. And so we have
very possibly that Iran will strike back with terrorist attacks.
Those could be virtually anywhere in the world against Israeli
or American.
Speaker 1 (11:42):
Yeah, yeah, that is a big concern in terms of retaliation.
And already what is this the seventh or eighth front
for Israel and its war against Iran or Iran's proxies the.
Speaker 4 (11:55):
Subjects, and yeah, I mean Israel's obviously just going for
the throat. Now, Iran has funded these foxy terrorist groups
in the best known of those are Homoss Belaw, but
there are many others all throughout the Midle East, in
East Africa, and nearly everywhere you see conflict in the
(12:16):
Middle East, in East Africa, it is being fomented by Iran,
is being armed, funded and instigated by Arabian malicious that's
truthful Lebanon and Iraq, the East Africa. So yeah, Israel
(12:36):
is just going for the jugular here at this point without.
Speaker 1 (12:39):
A doubt and successfully. So Keith Nobles, Now I want
to ask you, because you are a very avid follower
of foreign affairs, you understand the region of the Middle
East extremely well. One thing that I found really interesting
is how you initially had Secretary of State Marco Rubio
put out a statement saying that Israel did this unilaterally,
(13:02):
which some folks on the media and Democrats others had
been saying, oh, well, this is Trump distancing himself from Israel,
all via Marco Rubil. But to me, that was very
intentional that he was saying, Look, Israel did this strike
on its own, but that doesn't mean that the United
States didn't in essence provide cover through its diplomacy over
(13:24):
the last sixty one sixty two days that they've been
trying to negotiate a new deal with Iran that sixty
day period. And Trump talked about this today in some interviews.
Now that sixty day period passed, he said, we're giving
you sixty days.
Speaker 2 (13:40):
On the sixty first.
Speaker 1 (13:41):
Day, there goes Israel breaking out the attack and striking
on Iran and doing so very successfully. You just talk
a little bit about some of that diplomatic aspect and
the strategy there, and how the United States is looking
at this and approaching me that you know, tacit support
(14:03):
for what Israel is doing.
Speaker 4 (14:06):
Well. So the Rubio statement last night was really a
proclamation that the United States was not involved, even though
we almost certainly were for an intelligence and probably a
logistics ploited view in assisting this. But really we're Rubio
is seeing is you know, don't don't you dare attack
(14:26):
our facilities in Eras, Yes, the UAE, Bahrain, et cetera.
And of course Iran has threatened they will hold Israel
and the United States accountable for that. If they have
the wherewithal to do that anymore is a serious question
at this point. I mean, obviously there's as we mentioned,
(14:48):
there's always a possibility of terrorist attacks, but actually launching
missiles at American facilities, it's unclear at this point if
they can eve to do that. The other thing, for
the last forty five years, so Steve Lowens have taken
over in Iran, the real threat that Iran is posed
(15:10):
to any military action against Iran is their ability to
close the straight up for Boos, which would lock up
all that oil in the Persian Gulfs. All the Gulf
states out of the Arabia and Iraq would not be
able to shift their oil and that would theoretically drive
the price of oils through the rough hundred and fifty
(15:31):
two hundred fifty hours of barrel or something like that,
and consequence consequently collapse to global comfy. I mean, that's
always been for forty five years, it's been the scenario.
So that's always that is still the risk. But yeah,
the question is does Iran have the wherewithal to be
(15:52):
able to do that today? And what we're seeing this
will do what we've assumed for a one time rail
would be capable of doing, they no longer seem to
be capable of doing after this ra ISRAELI attacked. Yeah,
so the whole formulation the Middle East has changed. Hair
(16:14):
Molest fifteen hours or so.
Speaker 2 (16:17):
It is dramatic.
Speaker 1 (16:18):
Keith Nobles just a couple of minutes with our guests
from a military intail contractor, Keith Nobles, when we look
at moving ahead. President Trump telling Fox News that the
Iranians were hit ten times worse than.
Speaker 2 (16:31):
They thought they would be.
Speaker 1 (16:32):
He has indicated he believes that this strike on Iran
could improve chances for a nuclear deal, and also went
on in an interview with a CNN reporter Dana Bash
he said that the negotiations might go better this time
because all of their hardline negotiators are now dead. And
so the follow up question was if this means that
(16:55):
Israel was the one who had killed them, and after
pausing for a second, he said.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
Well, they didn't die of COVID. What do you make
of that? And where we go from here?
Speaker 4 (17:05):
Briefly, Well, it's important to note Israel has not struck
the actual nuclear eractor reactor in Iran, so that's still
there and functioning. They've structed all these facilities used to
process the materials needed to produce a bomb, and as
(17:27):
you mentioned, you played that Yahi w to start there
saying Iran was very close to a bomb, and we
could debate or different people debate what very close was,
but obviously Iran and I think obviously the Nan Sates
both believe Iran reached a threshold where it cannot be
allowed to proceed the farther. They were just too close
(17:48):
to tabbing a bomb. So what's left to negotiate here
is really they were made and reactor and what they
made or may not do with that. I think it's
been clear for Yeah, Iran does not need nuclear power
to produce electricity. They are a wash in oil and
they are a wash in natural gas natural gas, so
(18:12):
that's never really been a viable excuse for Iran. So
what's left the negotiate is really that reactor. It would
appear there may be not much left of the rest
of the Iranian program after Israel is finished. It's important
to know these attacks are by Israel continuing they have
would saw it will probably go on for several more days. Absolutely, well,
(18:37):
is Israel is pretty determined to get rid of anything
from Iran as far as nuclear weapons or holistic missiles.
Speaker 2 (18:45):
Well, we got to leave it there.
Speaker 1 (18:46):
I would just say that to me, the achievement really
is pointed to of what Israel has done here in
the fact that they knew did.
Speaker 2 (18:56):
Some actions that would.
Speaker 1 (19:00):
Make sure that top blue military leadership would be at
a particular location, so that way they could basically lure
them into a trap and then boom where everybody's The
whole thing is absolutely amazing. We'll we'll talk about it
more later on in the program with Breedier. General retired
Doug slocom who is a fighter pilot in the US
(19:21):
Air Force has worked with the IDF and he'll be
joining us. He was with us the other day. He's
going to be back with us at the top of
this next hour. Keep Nobles, my friend, thanks for joining us.
Speaker 4 (19:30):
Thank you, Jimmy all.
Speaker 1 (19:31):
Right, we got to run to a break. We'll continue
on the other side. I'm Jimmy Sangenberger in for Andy
Connell on KOA
Jimmy Sangenberger back with you today and the following three
days of The Mandy Connell Show Monday, Tuesday, and Wednesday,
filling in for the ever traveling Mandy. And you know,
it is great to be with you on a Friday
when there has been so much that has gone on
(00:20):
over the course of this week that has just been
a whirlwind.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
I remember at the end.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
Of the show on Wednesday, I was talking to Zach like, Hey,
we need to let the sports guys know we are
going to take an extra hour because we have so much,
so much to work on, and I would rather talk
about and yes, to work on as a country, as
a world never ending, especially now that there has been
(00:54):
a strike from Israel on Iran, a very significant development
to be sure. Now the IDF is reporting that missiles
have been detected launched toward Israel, of course, in retaliation
for Israel's strike yesterday. There were a number of signs
(01:16):
going on being given that this was going to happen.
The US was evacuating installations around the Middle East to
protect the public and protect their personnel and make sure
that they were safe with what was known to becoming.
(01:41):
Of course, this strike now This is another example of
something very fascinating in the sense of Israel being able
to do an attack of this scale, this magnitude, in
this level of surprise and detail because of all the
different facets, from the nuclear scientists, senior military leaders including
(02:05):
the head of the Iranian Revolutionary Guard, to the nuclear
installations and more. It calls back to mind for me,
the pagers incident last year with Hesbola. Remember when they
set off thousands of pagers explode to explode. That was
(02:27):
a massive surprise attack. This again very similar in that respect,
just different size and scale and type of attack, but
still one that took an amazing amount of intelligence and
smarts in terms.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
Of how to actually get the job done.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
Here is the Prime Minister of Israel bib Netnyahoo announcing
Operation Rising Lion last night.
Speaker 3 (02:54):
Moments ago, Israel launched Operation Rising Lion, i targeted military
operation to roll back the uranium threat to Israel's very survival.
This operation will continue for as many days as it
takes to remove this threat. For decades, the tyrants of
Tehran have brazenly openly called for Israel's destruction. They've backed
(03:18):
up their genocidal rhetoric with a program to develop nuclear weapons.
In recent years, Iran has produced enough highly enriched uranium
for nine atom bombs. Nine In recent months, Iran has
taken steps that it has never taken before, steps to
weaponize this enriched uranium. And if not stopped, Iran could
(03:42):
produce a nuclear weapon in a very short time. It
could be a year, it could be within a few months,
less than a year. This is a clear and present
danger to Israel's very survival, A.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
Clear and present danger to Israel's very survival, which to
me strikes true.
Speaker 2 (03:59):
Here's what we know.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
Oh, the head of the Iranian Revolutionary Guard, commander, the
commander hass Hassian Salami, and two other generals were killed,
which definitely, as the Wall Street Journal put it, punched
a hole into Ihran's military leadership. Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Nanyah,
who said the military operation would last as many days
(04:22):
as it takes Israel planned fourteen days of operations, according
to his senior Israeli official, and long before Israel's attacks,
agents smuggled explosive drones and other guided weapons into Iran,
according to an official, nan Yahoo and Defense Minister Israel
(04:43):
kap Cats decided Monday that the attack would begin Friday
local time, in official said, and of course we've seen
oil prices have been climbing as a result. Iran's foreign
minister has asked the United Nations to condemn israel attack
on the country's military and nuclear sites, saying in a
(05:04):
letter that the actions quote amount to a declaration of
war against the Islamic Republic of Iran. And it is
rather interesting as well to see a statement from the
Kingdom of Saudi Arabia expressing its strong condemnation and denunciation
of the blatant Israeli aggressions against the brotherlye Islamic Republic
(05:25):
of Iran, which undermine its sovereignty and security and constitute
a clear violation of international laws and norms, which I
think is I don't think they wrote that with a
straight face.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
To be honest.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
One of the big reasons that we even have the
Abraham Accords brought about during the first Trump administration is
because the Gulf Arab States were very concerned about Iran.
And there's that old I think Arabic proverb the enemy
of my enemy is my friend, and that's what brought
them together with Israel for a number of Arab countries
(06:04):
and even Saudi Arabia basically telling those countries it's.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
Okay, go ahead, sign the deal.
Speaker 1 (06:09):
Plus, as I understand it, you need Saudi Arabia to
agree for airspace to be used by Israel for this.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
Strike to happen.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
So they're saying they condemn it, but do they really?
Fascinating times, let's break it down with somebody who can
help us understand how the intelligence gathering could get to
this point and what happens to make this such a
success from the standpoint of preparation and more. Keith Nobles
(06:42):
is a longtime a military intelligence contractor, particularly during the
last decade of the Cold War. He's author of multiple books,
including Breaking the Zeitgeist How to Be Happy in a
World Gone in saying he joins me now, Keith, welcome
back to KOA.
Speaker 4 (06:58):
Hey, Jeffy, how are you? Thank you for having me on.
Speaker 1 (07:01):
I'm doing well, my friends, thanks for joining us. I
want to just throw you a very broad question. How
do you look at what happened last night and what
has gone on since Israel struck Iran?
Speaker 4 (07:13):
Well, Jimmy, there's a little joke that one third of
the people of the Iranian regime or THESSAD ages. It
looked like maybe that's less of a joke that it
was true. It's obvious Israel has thoroughly infiltrated Iran. I mean,
I think you mentioned in your intro there that there
(07:35):
are reports that Israel did very similar to what Ukraine
did Russia just a couple of weeks ago, and had
drones actually within inside of Iran that they launched at
targets from inside Iran. There are reports that some of
these targeted assassinations were not by missile or bomb, but
(07:57):
that we're actual Israeli agent who convected the assassinations, and
that there's UH at Israeli base the fact though base
operating inside of Iran from which they're they're convecting these activities.
And that to the point about the Saudi Arabia UH
(08:19):
proclamation last night, UH, the the weakness of the Iranian response.
They launched one hundred drones, none of their ballistic missiles
are appuarly still available to them to launch, but that
Saudi Arabian the OE shotdown some of those Iranian drones
themselves last night. So yeah, Iran is in a very
(08:41):
bad spot obviously, they've they've been thoroughly infiltrated by by
Israel all up and down the line.
Speaker 1 (08:48):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (08:48):
The other part about that, that's interesting. It's been fought
that the deepest underground Iranian nuclear facilities would require specific
lobs that manufacturer of the United States and the Israeli
is as best we know, do not have an aircraft
that would be capable of carrying that bomb. And that's
always been about to be the limit on Israel wighting
(09:12):
out the Arabian nuclear program. Given what we've seen in
this level of Israeli infiltration into Iran, Israel may very
well have a different method to destroy those those very
deepest bunkers.
Speaker 1 (09:26):
Keith Nobles, our guest Israeli Defense Forces, the our Israel
Defense Forces IDF identifying a missiles launched from Iran toward
Israel at this.
Speaker 2 (09:37):
Moment above a Tel Aviv.
Speaker 1 (09:39):
They say that their missile defense system, the Iron Dome,
is activated. I think it's the Iron Dome one that
would address that, but is activated to provide that defense.
When you look at the signs, let's talk for a moment,
because you were sending me a number of different indicators
on Thursday, or rather on Wednesday.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
That this was on the verge of happening.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
You said, looks like this strike is going to happen,
and they were evacuating US facilities. There were other signs.
What are some of those things that were done that
gave you this sense, Okay, this is going to happen.
Speaker 4 (10:15):
At this point, we evacuated most of the people have
the Dagdat Embassy, Paul raid UAE dependents were basically told
to depart, and then we evacuated a number of our
non combat aircraft out of the Persian Gulf and blew
(10:37):
them off somewhere to the west. So the United States
took the steps that they would anticipate the possibility of
Iranian retaliation against the United States facilities and forces in
the Middle East, especially in the Persian Gulf and obviously
in Iraq, where there are still a cons terrible number
(11:00):
of militias, sponsored, funded and armed by Iran that are
are active in Iraq. And that's that's the vulnerability to
any of the American assets. See the government and non
government that may be in Iraq, are those malicious? And
of course we have the Iranian motif has been terror
(11:24):
inside Iran and outside of Iran. And so we have
very possibly that Iran will strike back with terrorist attacks.
Those could be virtually anywhere in the world against Israeli
or American.
Speaker 1 (11:42):
Yeah, yeah, that is a big concern in terms of retaliation.
And already what is this the seventh or eighth front
for Israel and its war against Iran or Iran's proxies the.
Speaker 4 (11:55):
Subjects, and yeah, I mean Israel's obviously just going for
the throat. Now, Iran has funded these foxy terrorist groups
in the best known of those are Homoss Belaw, but
there are many others all throughout the Midle East, in
East Africa, and nearly everywhere you see conflict in the
(12:16):
Middle East, in East Africa, it is being fomented by Iran,
is being armed, funded and instigated by Arabian malicious that's
truthful Lebanon and Iraq, the East Africa. So yeah, Israel
(12:36):
is just going for the jugular here at this point without.
Speaker 1 (12:39):
A doubt and successfully. So Keith Nobles, Now I want
to ask you, because you are a very avid follower
of foreign affairs, you understand the region of the Middle
East extremely well. One thing that I found really interesting
is how you initially had Secretary of State Marco Rubio
put out a statement saying that Israel did this unilaterally,
(13:02):
which some folks on the media and Democrats others had
been saying, oh, well, this is Trump distancing himself from Israel,
all via Marco Rubil. But to me, that was very
intentional that he was saying, Look, Israel did this strike
on its own, but that doesn't mean that the United
States didn't in essence provide cover through its diplomacy over
(13:24):
the last sixty one sixty two days that they've been
trying to negotiate a new deal with Iran that sixty
day period. And Trump talked about this today in some interviews.
Now that sixty day period passed, he said, we're giving
you sixty days.
Speaker 2 (13:40):
On the sixty first.
Speaker 1 (13:41):
Day, there goes Israel breaking out the attack and striking
on Iran and doing so very successfully. You just talk
a little bit about some of that diplomatic aspect and
the strategy there, and how the United States is looking
at this and approaching me that you know, tacit support
(14:03):
for what Israel is doing.
Speaker 4 (14:06):
Well. So the Rubio statement last night was really a
proclamation that the United States was not involved, even though
we almost certainly were for an intelligence and probably a
logistics ploited view in assisting this. But really we're Rubio
is seeing is you know, don't don't you dare attack
(14:26):
our facilities in Eras, Yes, the UAE, Bahrain, et cetera.
And of course Iran has threatened they will hold Israel
and the United States accountable for that. If they have
the wherewithal to do that anymore is a serious question
at this point. I mean, obviously there's as we mentioned,
(14:48):
there's always a possibility of terrorist attacks, but actually launching
missiles at American facilities, it's unclear at this point if
they can eve to do that. The other thing, for
the last forty five years, so Steve Lowens have taken
over in Iran, the real threat that Iran is posed
(15:10):
to any military action against Iran is their ability to
close the straight up for Boos, which would lock up
all that oil in the Persian Gulfs. All the Gulf
states out of the Arabia and Iraq would not be
able to shift their oil and that would theoretically drive
the price of oils through the rough hundred and fifty
(15:31):
two hundred fifty hours of barrel or something like that,
and consequence consequently collapse to global comfy. I mean, that's
always been for forty five years, it's been the scenario.
So that's always that is still the risk. But yeah,
the question is does Iran have the wherewithal to be
(15:52):
able to do that today? And what we're seeing this
will do what we've assumed for a one time rail
would be capable of doing, they no longer seem to
be capable of doing after this ra ISRAELI attacked. Yeah,
so the whole formulation the Middle East has changed. Hair
(16:14):
Molest fifteen hours or so.
Speaker 2 (16:17):
It is dramatic.
Speaker 1 (16:18):
Keith Nobles just a couple of minutes with our guests
from a military intail contractor, Keith Nobles, when we look
at moving ahead. President Trump telling Fox News that the
Iranians were hit ten times worse than.
Speaker 2 (16:31):
They thought they would be.
Speaker 1 (16:32):
He has indicated he believes that this strike on Iran
could improve chances for a nuclear deal, and also went
on in an interview with a CNN reporter Dana Bash
he said that the negotiations might go better this time
because all of their hardline negotiators are now dead. And
so the follow up question was if this means that
(16:55):
Israel was the one who had killed them, and after
pausing for a second, he said.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
Well, they didn't die of COVID. What do you make
of that? And where we go from here?
Speaker 4 (17:05):
Briefly, Well, it's important to note Israel has not struck
the actual nuclear eractor reactor in Iran, so that's still
there and functioning. They've structed all these facilities used to
process the materials needed to produce a bomb, and as
(17:27):
you mentioned, you played that Yahi w to start there
saying Iran was very close to a bomb, and we
could debate or different people debate what very close was,
but obviously Iran and I think obviously the Nan Sates
both believe Iran reached a threshold where it cannot be
allowed to proceed the farther. They were just too close
(17:48):
to tabbing a bomb. So what's left to negotiate here
is really they were made and reactor and what they
made or may not do with that. I think it's
been clear for Yeah, Iran does not need nuclear power
to produce electricity. They are a wash in oil and
they are a wash in natural gas natural gas, so
(18:12):
that's never really been a viable excuse for Iran. So
what's left the negotiate is really that reactor. It would
appear there may be not much left of the rest
of the Iranian program after Israel is finished. It's important
to know these attacks are by Israel continuing they have
would saw it will probably go on for several more days. Absolutely, well,
(18:37):
is Israel is pretty determined to get rid of anything
from Iran as far as nuclear weapons or holistic missiles.
Speaker 2 (18:45):
Well, we got to leave it there.
Speaker 1 (18:46):
I would just say that to me, the achievement really
is pointed to of what Israel has done here in
the fact that they knew did.
Speaker 2 (18:56):
Some actions that would.
Speaker 1 (19:00):
Make sure that top blue military leadership would be at
a particular location, so that way they could basically lure
them into a trap and then boom where everybody's The
whole thing is absolutely amazing. We'll we'll talk about it
more later on in the program with Breedier. General retired
Doug slocom who is a fighter pilot in the US
(19:21):
Air Force has worked with the IDF and he'll be
joining us. He was with us the other day. He's
going to be back with us at the top of
this next hour. Keep Nobles, my friend, thanks for joining us.
Speaker 4 (19:30):
Thank you, Jimmy all.
Speaker 1 (19:31):
Right, we got to run to a break. We'll continue
on the other side. I'm Jimmy Sangenberger in for Andy
Connell on KOA
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