11-01-24 FULL SHOW - Wine Pairings for Halloween Candy, And Yes on Prop 80 Please!

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Today you're gonna get extra from a Rod because he
is full board training our new guy, Zach. So we
got as we're calling it, the Training Special, make you
suring is how to do everything. So you're gonna hear
all kinds of stuff today because Zach is gonna have
to know it all they we're gonna throw it into
the wolves. We're gonna Bo Nixon all right.

Speaker 2 (01:10):
And then I told you the first month of the
season for Zach is gotta be better than Bo Nix's first.

Speaker 5 (01:14):
Well, I'm talking from game five on. Okay, yeah, game
five on? Did you not hear me say game five on?

Speaker 2 (01:20):
Today? We can just say today's the Tampa Bay game.
When it all week three, there you go, let's go,
let's go, let's get you week four.

Speaker 4 (01:27):
Okay, we'll start in week four, so okay, we're giving
him a little you know what I'm saying, like week
four at home. Okay, we'll take it. We will take it.

Speaker 5 (01:39):
I have a lot of stuff going on today, so
let's jump into the blog because we got guests coming up,
and we got things, and we got stuff and we
got whatnot and I'm.

Speaker 4 (01:46):
Ready to just pile in there.

Speaker 5 (01:49):
So let's find the blog at mandy'sblog dot com. Mandy'sblog
dot com. Look for the headline.

Speaker 4 (01:54):
It says eleven one four blog wine pairings for Halloween
candy and yes on Prop eighty. Please click on that
and here are the headlines you will find within I.

Speaker 2 (02:04):
Thinkyone's listening office, half of American all with ships and
clippas a s edsona press.

Speaker 5 (02:08):
Plant today on the blog have you signed up for
Cleans Beach Colorado? The wine Yogi is pairing Halloween candy
with wine. Prop eighty on School Choice must Pass, a
mom running for Premies.

Speaker 4 (02:21):
Jd Vance crushed it on Joe.

Speaker 5 (02:23):
Rogan calls for deeper investigation into Griswold's incompetence grow. We
need to make sure elections are secure. The case for
Griswold's resignation, it's about safety, stupid, no more fluoride in
Evergreen's water. Happy dwale to those who celebrate. Why do
we have a problem with women abusing their power?

Speaker 6 (02:42):
Here?

Speaker 5 (02:43):
Denver police is coming for a license plate, scoff laws.
Job creation in October was an emic. Jerry Seinfeld calls
out a school for coddling teens. Bob Costas is out,
CBS concerned Trump didn't give Biden a pass scrolling what
may you want? This seems legit for this election cycle.

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Sign someone isn't a great parent. Mark Cuban is sorry
for insulting women. Chuck would be so mad if I
did this. And a ninety three year old billionaire gives
life advice. Those are the headlines on the blog at
mandy'sblog dot com, and lots of good stuff on the
blog today. Lots of fun stuff on the show today.

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The wine Yogi's bringing in Halloween candy. She's already done
a blog pairing some of your favorites with.

Speaker 4 (03:31):
Wines that you might want to have. She's also got another.

Speaker 5 (03:34):
Class coming up in a couple of weeks I believe
maybe two and a half weeks at the Wine Gallery
getting ready for Thanksgiving. She always does these great wine
pairing classes and she always makes really good little nauches
for people to eat, and it's only fifteen bucks. It
is in the Springs, but she's going to come on
at two thirty to do that. We're also going to
talk to joy Overbeck. She's a columnist and local sort

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of politico, and she's written a column about Proposition eighty,
that is the school Choice Amendment. There is so much
conversation in the homeschooling community about this. I've had multiple
homeschoolers reach out to me and say, I'm just not
sure what to do here, and we're.

Speaker 4 (04:13):
Going to address some of those things.

Speaker 5 (04:15):
But ultimately, the short story or the long story short
is that right now, homeschoolers.

Speaker 4 (04:22):
Have no protection.

Speaker 5 (04:23):
If the legislature decided to come after homeschooling, they could
ban homeschooling. Right now, there's nothing to stop them from
banning homeschooling, from dictating curriculums, from doing all of these
interfearing things to homeschoolers. And the fear is if we
pass this, then all of a sudden, the state's going
to go, Aha, now we can interfere. But that is

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the reality is they can do whatever they want and
one thing that people in this state need to realize.

Speaker 4 (04:53):
We all have are so comfortable with charter schools. We're
all so.

Speaker 5 (04:58):
Comfortable with having charter schools Colorado. Many of the most successful.

Speaker 4 (05:02):
Schools in Colorado are charter schools. We have a robust system.
But you know who's not happy with our charter school
system in Colorado The teachers' unions.

Speaker 5 (05:12):
And they have almost unlimited pockets, meaning unlimited money, and
they have unlimited time to focus on nothing else. While
we're all going about our business right, living our lives,
doing our thing, all they do is try to figure
out how to bring every educational opportunity under their control.

Speaker 4 (05:32):
That is the reality.

Speaker 5 (05:33):
They view anything that is not union controlled traditional public
schools as a threat to their power, to their money,
and they never stop looking at it.

Speaker 4 (05:43):
And now I fear, now, I fear that if.

Speaker 5 (05:45):
Prop eighty doesn't pass, that will signal to them that
our supportive charter schools has weekend and force them to
redouble their efforts here in Colorado to start shipping away at.

Speaker 4 (05:56):
Our charter school system. So we're going to talk to Joy.

Speaker 5 (06:00):
About that at twelve thirty and then I uh, this story,
you guys, I love this story so much. There's a
new documentary out called one forty seven and I embedded
the trailer for the movie on the blog today, and
it is about a mom whose baby was born severely premature.
He spent one hundred and forty seven days in the NICKUU.

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My daughter was born two weeks premature. It was an
urgent c section. She was in fetal distress, so they
delivered her early, but she was almost at full term.
So we were in the niqu for twelve days and
it was the longest twelve days of my entire life.
I am not exaggerating when I say that. I think
about it and it starts to make me physically ill,

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that stress of having a baby. And she was a
giant in the nickqu She was an eight pound baby
in the nickqu So all of these other teeny tiny,
almost like little teacup babies in these you know, cribs,
trying to grow and get strong, it was just it
was heartbreaking. So this mom started an organization to support

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families who have had the experience of having an extremely
premature baby. Many extremely premature babies have ongoing issues, so
it's not just oh, we had the baby early. Some
struggle going forward. Some you know, make a full recovery
and go on to lead their happy, healthy lives with
no issues, but some extremely premature babies struggle throughout their lives.

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So it's not just a one and done. It is
a struggle in the beginning that sometimes continues. So I
can't wait to introduce you to Stephanie Hawser and the
movie one forty seven is about her and her team
running one hundred and forty seven miles in forty eight
hours to raise awareness for their organization because her son

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was in the Nikki for one hundred and forty seven days.

Speaker 4 (07:57):
It's just really really cool. So we're going to talk
about that in a little bit.

Speaker 5 (08:01):
So I want to start out with this because I
am becoming increasingly hopeful that Jenna Griswold's burgeoning career in
politics is over, because now more and more voices are
calling for some kind of significant accountability that comes from

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outside the Secretary of State's office for this password breach.

Speaker 4 (08:28):
And it's not just the password breach. Isn't the old
adage in political scandals the cover up is always worse
than the crime.

Speaker 5 (08:37):
Now you may remember that Jenna Griswold could not wait
to race out in front of the cameras last week
to talk about the security breach in Mesa County. Mesa
County got twelve ballots that were stolen from other people,
filled up fraudulently. Nine of them did not survive the
signature verification process, three of them did, votes were counted,

(09:00):
and she had to have a press conference to talk
about how aggressively they.

Speaker 4 (09:04):
Were handling this.

Speaker 5 (09:05):
But the reality was she knew that these passwords had
been leaked and did not say anything to anyone except
the federal government until she was outed by a Republican
Party mass email that exposed the story.

Speaker 4 (09:23):
So she did not call county.

Speaker 5 (09:26):
Clerks, who are, by the way, really the first line
of defense because they're the ones that manage the rooms,
the locked rooms. Colorado state law says the voting machines
have to be kept in locked rooms with key card
access and video evidence, right So the clerks are the
ones that oversee all of that. So they should have

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been notified right away, and she didn't. She didn't notify
the governor. The governor found out about it from a
Republican Party email that probably went over like a lead balloon,
and it might indicate why he has now come out
and said, look, we have to have an independent investigation
into what happened. Police told CBS, how could this happen

(10:13):
sensitive passwords posted? Sounds like he's pretty disgusted. He said,
anything related to elections. We want to be radically transparent,
so anytime we know something, we tell people.

Speaker 4 (10:24):
I found out wednesday myself.

Speaker 5 (10:27):
Now Polis has brought in the National Guard's cybersecurity team
to bring in cybersecurity experts who are going to make
sure that all the passwords have been updated and that
no one has accessed the equipment in the meantime, because
apparently these passwords are online for months, absolute months, on

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a hidden tab in a.

Speaker 4 (10:48):
Set of documents that all you had to see was
click on hide. Ooh, that's clever. Whoever came up with
that cybersecurity measure, they're super smart. Being sarcastic.

Speaker 5 (11:00):
But now you have State Representative Lisa Frazzelle, she's the
chair of the Legislative Audit Committee. She said, look, the
cover up is the worst part, absolutely, And this is
what I was talking about the other day after her
interview with Kyle Clark. The thing that bothered me the
most about that interview was her unwillingness to just take

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full responsibility be horrified by what happened, and instead she
downplayed it and boop pooed it like, oh, you know what,
it's not that big a deal. It's only one of
the past words. We have all these other layers of security,
right am I. Right next we find out that they've
leaked like key cards to every clerk's office in the state,

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but no one's talking about it. Lisa Frizzelle said, what
policies have not been observed, What procedures are already established
but are being ignored because it is not normal for
some of this stuff to be happening over and over
and over again. Now you may not know, and I
don't have the details of this story in front of me.
I'll go find them on the break. The Secretary of

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State's office has refused to release documentations surrounding voter list
maintenance that is required to be done. Now an organization
is asking to see the records of this maintenance being performed.
They're not asking to see, you know, the actual perform
they just want to see the records that say this.

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These actions to clean up the voter roles were taken.
They're required by law, and she refused to release the records.
Today is the deadline. She was supposed to release them
to them today by noon, So we'll see if that
even happens.

Speaker 4 (12:40):
This level of incompetence cannot be. It cannot be. It
just it cannot stand.

Speaker 5 (12:46):
And I certainly hope behind the scenes that her colleagues
and fellow Democrats are urging her to step down.

Speaker 4 (12:53):
I mean, I would like them to publicly say it.

Speaker 5 (12:56):
I think the governor, by coming out and demanding an
independent investigation, is definitely sending a signal. And the fact
that he didn't find out until Wednesday was the wrong move.
Always the wrong move. This is what's wrong legenda Griswold
in this office. She is a nakedly partisan person. She

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spends more time on MSNBC than she does in Colorado
I think, I mean, really, I'm just kidding about that,
but you get what I'm saying. She blocked travel to
Alabama because she personally disagrees with their abortion laws. That
is a partisan hack thing to do. Now, I really
don't care what your own opinion is, but she's she's

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a partisan hack. And now she's an incompetent partisan hack.
So it's going to be very interesting to see how
the Democratic Party deals with this, how the governor deals
with this going forward.

Speaker 4 (13:46):
They have to know who posted these documents. I mean,
they have to know whose job that was.

Speaker 5 (13:53):
Generally speaking, you don't just have everybody in the organization
really nilly putting stuff.

Speaker 4 (13:58):
On the internet for you.

Speaker 5 (14:00):
Accept in radio and then willing nelly, everybody's just put
stuff on the internet for you.

Speaker 4 (14:04):
I wish I was kidding, but I'm not. It's completely true.

Speaker 5 (14:08):
So you know, there's a great column today in the
Denver Gazette by Jimmy Segenberger, and he lays out the
many reasons that Tina should go, and I just want
to skip ahead. I'm not going to read the whole thing.
You can read it. I linked to it on the
blog today. And again, you guys, if you have not
subscribed to the Denver Gazette yet, why have you not?

Speaker 6 (14:30):
Why have you not?

Speaker 4 (14:31):
This is Paywalden.

Speaker 5 (14:32):
I make no apologies for that, and you need to
just subscribe because they're doing a really good job, and
they're covering things fairly, and it's refreshing to have an
editorial page that doesn't hate me, so make it happen
people anyway, not sponsored anyway.

Speaker 4 (14:47):
He goes through several of the issues that she has
been around.

Speaker 5 (14:57):
Griswald has brushed off the call to resign, saying there's
no serious threat to our elections and no evidence of
compromise equipment.

Speaker 4 (15:05):
While that appears true, he says.

Speaker 5 (15:07):
This breach of trust in state election rules is extraordinary,
and Griswold always claims to be a stickler for the rules.
In twenty twenty one, when Masa County's bios passwords were
leaked by then clerk Tina Peters, who's spending nine years
behind bars, Griswold called the leak of a single password
a serious breach. Now with a shoe on the other foot,

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should in the same standard apply to her. Last week,
she rushed to the cameras for a press conference, hastily
claiming victory for election integrity. Twelve fraudulent mail ballots were
intercepted and illegally voted in Mesa County. Nine ballots were
caught as the system was designed, but three slipped through
and were counted due to human error by an election

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judge who was later reassigned. The frustration of Mesa County
MESA Bobby Gross was palpable. She said, while we understand
the Secretary of State's desire to make public statements, this
is our community and our investigation, and prematurely releasing details
could hamper investigators and justice. In twenty nineteen, she announced

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a symbolic staff travel boycott of Alabama to protest abortion
laws and coordinate it with Planned Parenthood, a Griswold donor.
She swiftly replaced her entire leadership team with partisan Democrats.

Speaker 4 (16:23):
Within thirteen months.

Speaker 5 (16:24):
They were already gone, sparking what her first legislative liaison
called two hundred percent turnover. The instability was unprecedented. All
six immediate Presidence predecessors combined had two deputy secretaries over
twenty years.

Speaker 4 (16:39):
Griswold is on number three in just six.

Speaker 5 (16:42):
The next year, she used federal pandemic relief funds for
a DCPR firm and a shameless self promotion disguised as
voter education. She also signed a confidential settlement with former
Deputy Secretary Jenny Flanagan, complete with a gag order and
scripted talking points.

Speaker 4 (16:58):
During the twenty twenty elections, she soon.

Speaker 5 (17:00):
The US Postal Service over a mailer simply advising voters
to plan ahead for mail in ballots, somehow claiming voters suppression,
invoking American tragedies like racially charged poll tests and poll taxes.
The suit didn't help Colorado voters, but fueled national drama
over Postmaster General Louis de Joy a Democratic target. In

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twenty twenty one, as chair of the Democratic Association of
Secretaries of State, she became a pivotal player in a
dark money network that s funneled millions into Democratic campaigns
across the country, including her own.

Speaker 4 (17:36):
In twenty twenty two, she.

Speaker 5 (17:38):
Sent voter registration postcards to thirty thousand non citizens for
the second time since twenty twenty, shrugging it off as
a data glitch. She's incompetent. She's truly incompetent, and I
don't think she survives. Even the Trump campaign is involved.
By the way they've sent letters asking for answers about

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the password leak, I'm sure they will be ignored because
that's really the mo. Just ask the people who've been
trying to get her to release their records on the
necessary and required updates and checks to our voter roles.

Speaker 4 (18:17):
Just something to think about it.

Speaker 5 (18:19):
Manny, and you wonder why Tina Peters went behind Griswold's back.
But the thing is, you guys, there were other clerks
of court. I want to say this for the last
time about Tina Peters.

Speaker 4 (18:28):
There were other clerks of court that.

Speaker 5 (18:31):
Had questions, and you know why they're not in jail
for nine years. They followed the law on how to
find out if they were if anything was amiss. There's
an entire process. There are so many checks and balances.

Speaker 4 (18:43):
Now I'm not saying that, you know, you can't manipulate turnout,
but there's a lot of checks and balances in place,
and Tina Peters didn't use any of them. She went rogue.

Speaker 5 (18:57):
She lied about a man's identity, she turned off video cameras,
shed a law of stuff.

Speaker 4 (19:03):
It does not follow the law, and that's why she's
in jail.

Speaker 5 (19:06):
Unfortunately, with Janna Griswolk, people keep sending me emails.

Speaker 4 (19:08):
So she's going to go to jail now. And competence
is not a crime, but oh if it were.

Speaker 5 (19:15):
Callum this joy overback, who's recent column in The Rocky
Mountain Voice don't align with teachers' unions against Amendment eighty
for school choice.

Speaker 4 (19:23):
Joey, welcome back to the show.

Speaker 7 (19:25):
Hey, thankr Andy, great to be here.

Speaker 4 (19:27):
Well, let's talk about our Amendment eighty.

Speaker 6 (19:30):
What it would do.

Speaker 4 (19:30):
Let's start with that.

Speaker 7 (19:32):
Okay, Well, it would put in the lock box I
call the lock box or the Colorado Constitution the right
to school choice for parents to direct. And that's really
an important word, to direct their kids schooling, where their
kids go to school. In other words, a lot of
people are misunderstanding this because the actual amendment language says

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the children have the right to school choice. So some
people are mistakingly, mistakenly of thinking that that means that
the kid has the right to decide on the school
the kid goes to, and that's just preposterous.

Speaker 5 (20:07):
Well, it also is it says clearly in the initiative
that parents have the right to direct their children's education.

Speaker 4 (20:14):
The language is in there, so it's it's yeah.

Speaker 7 (20:18):
But people are ignoring that because I think that language
is not in the actual uh, in the in the
language that said that's on Amendment AD on the ballot,
and so people are missing that really important part. And
some of the homeschoolers and some of the charter people
are saying, oh, my kid is going to decide and
I can't have my kids and that if you just

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follow that, let's just have a little fun and follow
that ridiculous assumption. Do they really think that that a
kid is going to sue the parent in a Coloro
court and have a radical judge who's usually a Democrat
who's totally against school choice and public money being used
to fund any private school, is going to say to

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the parent, Okay, now your kid wants to go to
private Catholic school with his friends, so you're gonna have
to fund that private Catholic school and you're gonna have
to uh allow this kid to do it. Or conversely,
if a kid wants to go to you know, wants
prepare it to homeschool, does anybody really think adem just
going to say, okay, parent, you need to quit your

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job and stay home and homeschool your kids. I mean,
it's just so ludicrous and far fetched and not happening.

Speaker 5 (21:30):
Well and for me, I mean, but for me, the
whole argument stops when in the Amendment it says parents
have the right to direct the education of their children.
That is part of the actual Amendment, So that should
not even we shouldn't even be doing like, you know,
hypotheticals joy because I don't want to encourage people to
think down that line, because the language says the exact words.

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Parents have the right to direct the education of their children.
So we need to just put that to bed.

Speaker 7 (21:58):
Believe on Facebook from people who do not understand that
elementary fact that parents direct the right. That's why I
went to the to the preposterous scenario of the judges.
They just don't seem to get that. And the other
thing they're saying all over the place is that the
schools will be told by uh, you know, there's there's

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a line about quality education, that the kids have a
right to quality education, or people are saying, oh, well,
quality education is going to be defined by the state,
by the government, and they're going to come in and
tell homeschoolers and charter parents and private schools this is
what you have to do. And you know what, already,
the Department of Education, the Board of Education in Colorado

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is the one who really sets the curriculum, you know,
essentially for schools, and so the government is already influencing
that and they're not going to influence anymore when this
an AD passes and that that's the thing that people
are just they're just the gripped by these irrational fears
when they should be welcoming this Amendment eighty with glad

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hosannas and singing in the crashing of drums and symbols.
Instead of that, they're coming up with these really frankly
ridiculous objections to it. And as you said, actually at
the top of the hour, I think if we don't
have this Amendment eighty, the legislature is going to continue
to interfere. And they're already trying because they're going to say, oh,

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look at the Republicans, the charter people, they don't care
they failed this question.

Speaker 5 (23:35):
I think this is a big, big deal because now
that it's on the ballot, if this fails, because people
don't necessarily understand, and you've got this in your column
that last year House Build twenty four thirteen sixty three
was designed to start eroding charter schools and it would
have taken away their ability. A charter school can now
use available school buildings for free, and that would have

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taken that away. It repealed the Yeah, it repealed the
ability of district charter schools to apply to use the
district building or land.

Speaker 4 (24:03):
So they're going to start shipping away.

Speaker 5 (24:05):
And if we don't have this protection in the constitution,
those shipping away, they will just continue and they will
smell blood in the water if this pass.

Speaker 4 (24:14):
If this doesn't pass now, yeah.

Speaker 7 (24:16):
And actually the worst provision of that bill that the
Democrats tried to pass last time to erase charter schools
actually just to destroy the ability church of charter schools
to function at all. At about fifteen percent of kids
in Colorado go to these wonderful and by the way,
they're public charter schools, which a lot of people.

Speaker 4 (24:33):
Don't get that either.

Speaker 7 (24:34):
They also, in this terrible bill that thank god didn't pass,
they would give the district the right to actually eradicate
all charter schools, even existing charter schools in the district,
if the district's per pupil enrollment is projected to decline,
not even if it declines, but if it's projected to decline.

Speaker 4 (24:57):
So you see what that does.

Speaker 7 (24:58):
That absolutely wrangles the ability of parents just to just
effectively bans all charter schools in the district if they're
her pupil enrollment is projected to the climate. Because of
course the public school people. The Democrats don't want the
competition of charter schools. That's why they're trying to kill

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charter schools and homeschooling because these always are nearly always
score a lot better in testing and in proficiency than
the regular public school. So that's why they want. They
can't handle the competition. And by the way, of course,
just the mere fact.

Speaker 3 (25:37):
That the.

Speaker 7 (25:38):
National Education Associations at that crazy Randy Winingarten and our
local school unions teachers unions here in Poloa have actually
kicked in between eight and ten million dollars to try
to destroy Amendment AID. That should tell oh, it's work.

Speaker 4 (25:57):
I want to read this to you.

Speaker 5 (25:58):
This text message us to got it joy If the
kid wants to go to the school where they're encouraged
to be trands, the legal system has already wiped out parents.
If the wording recognizes the rights of the parent, cool,
But if it bestows rights to a child, no go
for me. So let me explain to this text or
where they're wrong. Okay, they're run because it clearly delineates

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parents have the right to direct their children's education. The
implied right that you're giving children is not clearly spelled
out in this language, and it would come in conflict
with the clearly spelled out language that gives parents the
rights to direct their child's education. So one of them
is assumed, one of them is clearly in the amendment.

Speaker 7 (26:41):
Yeah, they just have to Well if they look at
their blue book under this, I think page three nine
or something, then the language is explained about the parent
having the right to direct education. And people just need
to look up the word direct. Do you understand what
direct means? People? I mean, sincerely, And also this tone
completely ridiculous scenario that the parent is going to be

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taken court.

Speaker 4 (27:05):
By the child.

Speaker 7 (27:06):
That's just not happening for the reasons that I explained.
And even if it were to happen, the parent would
not be instructed by the court to quit his or
her job in homeschool the kid or to pay her
religious school, which is another thing people a parent are
terrified of, and to pay tuition for real. I mean,

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no court is going to is going to command a
parent to pay for religious instruction for their kids at
some Catholic school or Lutheran school or whatever.

Speaker 5 (27:38):
So I've got another text message I want to address here,
and that is how is this taking money from public schools.
That's what the antis are claiming. There is no money
being directed anywhere. All this amendment does is say that
parents have the right to choose the best educational choices
for their children, and that existing charter schools, homeschool options.

Speaker 4 (28:04):
Private schools have the right to exist. That's all it says.

Speaker 5 (28:08):
There's no money, there's no economic impact, there's nothing. But
that's the scare tactics used by the unions who say
that this is going to be used for vouchers, when
no one is talking about that at all.

Speaker 7 (28:19):
No, that's exactly right. And so also the homeschoolers don't
want vouchers, right, They don't want vouchers for whatever reason.
And they're all using the weirdest thing, and the most
bizarre thing is that the homeschoolers and the unions are
using the same language to try to defeat AM eighties.
And that should be a clue. People don't want to

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be on the side of the teachers' unions if you
care about school choice, because they don't. They've been trying
to destroy school choices, excuse me, absolutely forever, and that's
why they're spending as I say, eight to ten million
dollars to destroy this amendment. And the other thing that
people say is, oh, we already have school choice in Colorado. Well,

(29:01):
I live in the district that happened to have a
one person conservative majority on the board, but a while
ago they didn't. And any district you're in that has
liberals on the board, on your school board, they can
just deny school choice by denying charter applications willy nilly,
just at the district level. And people don't seem to
get that either. But if we put it in the

(29:23):
lock box of the constitution, that's what we must do.
If you care about school choice, forget all these frivolous,
absolutely you know, bizarre, preposterous arguments about how the kid
is going to decide what school's she or he is
going to be in. That's just not true. And as
you say, there's no fisc what we call a fiscal

(29:44):
note on this amount. The fiscal note would be spending
of public money. There's no spending and there's no possibility
of spending public money.

Speaker 4 (29:53):
This is just a clear.

Speaker 7 (29:55):
Statement that we in Colorado and we parents and believe
in school choice for kids. Period.

Speaker 4 (30:02):
Joy overback. I appreciate your time today.

Speaker 5 (30:04):
Hopefully people will read Amendment eighty and see clearly that
parents are given control of their child's education.

Speaker 4 (30:10):
I appreciate you coming on the show today, Joyce Our Joy.

Speaker 7 (30:13):
Thanks, thank you.

Speaker 4 (30:15):
We'll be right back.

Speaker 5 (30:16):
Bring something out about why Amendment eighty is very important
and it'll help you understand I hope why teachers' unions
are going to continue attacking charter schools.

Speaker 1 (30:27):
Now.

Speaker 5 (30:27):
I want to make a couple things really clear. Right now,
Charter schools are public high schools. Charter schools cannot cherry
pick their students. You have to go in via a
lottery system, unless you are a founding family, in which
case you have to give a bunch of volunteer hours
to get the school up and running.

Speaker 4 (30:44):
They don't get capital funds.

Speaker 5 (30:46):
They have to pay for their own buildings and structures
unless they're able to use existing school buildings that are
not being used, so they have to pay their mortgages
out of their budget. They are not under teacher union control,
and they have more freedom with their curriculums and their
sort of autonomy with the school district, which is why

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teachers unions hate them. But I want to give you
another reason why teacher unions hate them. I am at
us News and World Report Best high Schools in Colorado.
The top ranked Colorado high schools are as follows. Devlon
Junior Senior High School in Denver number one, number two,
Stargate Charter School, they're a charter school. Number three, Liberty

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Common Charter.

Speaker 4 (31:30):
School they're a charter school.

Speaker 5 (31:33):
Peak to Peak charter School, number four, the Vanguard School
also a charter school. Number five Denver School of the Arts,
Vail Ski and Snowboard Academy, Fairview High School, the Classical
Academy High School which is a charter school, followed by
Stem High School in Highlands Ranch, also a charter school.

(31:53):
You beginning to get what I'm laying down here, because
this is why, this is why why the teachers unions
want to destroy charter schools, because they are outperforming the
schools that teachers unions have control over.

Speaker 4 (32:09):
And that's just the reality.

Speaker 5 (32:13):
Just pulled up the top ten middle schools in Colorado.
Number one Parker Core Knowledge Charter School, number two, Some
Middle charter School, number three, Challenge School which is just
a magnet school, not a charter school. The rest of
them are either magnet schools or charter schools or both.

(32:36):
This is why teachers unions have to destroy charters and
they have to destroy school choice. They have to be
able to continue to funnel your child, against your will
into a school that may or may not be capable
of educating them, because that's the only way they can
keep all of those teachers employed in the schools that
may or may not be educating children well, because that's

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the way that teachers can continue paying union dues so
the union can continue supporting democratic candidates.

Speaker 4 (33:03):
I mean, I hate to break it down that simple,
but that is. That's it.

Speaker 6 (33:08):
That's it.

Speaker 5 (33:10):
So a yes vote on Amendment eighty is is a
vote for continued excellence in.

Speaker 4 (33:15):
Schools across Colorado. And here's a news flash, a very
interesting study.

Speaker 5 (33:21):
Stanford has an entire department of researchers who study charter schools,
probably more closely than anybody else does, and what they
found was when you have a vibrant charter school community,
it brings the other schools up because competition is a
real thing, and they're trying to to do away with

(33:43):
the thing that forces them to be better. So yeah,
I'd appreciate it. Why would a snowboarding academy need tax dollars.
There's only like one hundred and thirty five students in that.
I don't even know how many.

Speaker 4 (33:57):
I don't know. I don't think they're a private school.
Maybe they are.

Speaker 5 (34:03):
VSSA is a public charter school in Eagle County.

Speaker 4 (34:06):
Sorry about that. It doesn't say that on US News
and World Report.

Speaker 5 (34:10):
So just please you guys, please this Texter. I'm going
to let them have the last one on it right now.
The only protection that charter schools have with our liberal
legislature is the fact that the governor is pro charter schools.
If our next governor is a teacher backed candidate like
Mayor Mike Johnston, we.

Speaker 4 (34:28):
Will start to see charter schools disappear. That is the
main reason to put this into the constitution, that my
friends is correct.

Speaker 5 (34:37):
When we get back, we're going to talk to a
mom who took one hundred and forty seven days that
her son spent in an aqueue and turned it into
a movement to help parents with extremely premature children.

Speaker 4 (34:49):
We're going to talk to Stephanie Hawser next.

Speaker 1 (34:51):
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Speaker 2 (35:00):
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Speaker 4 (35:06):
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Speaker 5 (35:18):
Welcome, Welcome, Welcome to the second hour of the show.
I'm Mandy Connell here with Anthony Rodriguez, you can call
him a rod And I have to make a correction
of something that I said in the last segment. I
made a comment about, you know, if we get somebody
who's pro union, like Mayor Mike Johnston as governor, and
I got this text message Mike Johnston supports charter schools
and passed the law making it tougher for union teachers

(35:40):
to get tenure. I was a Republican co sponsor of
that bill that from our textter. I wanted to make
sure I corrected the record before we moved on to
our next guest. Unfortunately, I have a little bit in
common with her, and we're part of a club that's
not the most fun club.

Speaker 4 (35:55):
To be a part of, and it is a club
of parents who's went to a hospital to have a baby,
only to leave without the baby because the baby needed
to spend some time in the neonatal intensive care unit
otherwise known as NICK You for me, it was just
twelve long days.

Speaker 5 (36:11):
For my guest, it was one hundred and forty seven
long days. Stephanie Hawser, welcome to the show.

Speaker 6 (36:19):
Oh, thank you so much for having me.

Speaker 8 (36:21):
And I'd love to say, you know, any amount of
the time in the Nicku is really long. You know,
it can be one hundred and forty seven days or
even just two days.

Speaker 4 (36:28):
Well a lot. Tell me about your son. What happened?
He came in very very early.

Speaker 8 (36:36):
Yeah, So in twenty nineteen, our son zeb was born
at just twenty three weeks, just stationed just over halfway
through pregnancy. He was given less than a one percent
chance to survival through birth, and as time went on,
you know, he was given a ninety five percent chance
with all the complications of being born so impossibly early,
ninety five percent chance of never walking, never talking, never

(36:59):
eating or breathing on his own.

Speaker 6 (37:01):
They expected that he would be blind.

Speaker 8 (37:02):
These are all very typical outcomes of babies born so early,
and and Zev was just a miraculous case. From go
he came out rying on no lungs and from there
we knew he was stronger than we thought.

Speaker 5 (37:18):
One hundred and forty seven days. I can't even imagine
how much did he weigh when he was born.

Speaker 6 (37:26):
Zev weighed one pound four ounces at birth.

Speaker 8 (37:29):
He was small enough to fit into the palm of
my hands, So, if you can believe it, he was
so tiny, but he was a fighter. And through our
time in the nick you note, through those one hundred
and forty seven days, that can be a really hopeless time.
You know, that's a place, just like you said, you know,
the Nicki is really hard no matter how long you
spend there.

Speaker 6 (37:48):
It's full of two things at once.

Speaker 8 (37:50):
It's the best place you can be for the care
of your children and the hardest place to be as
a parent, watching your child go through such hard things.
And for us, you know, so those one hundred and
forty seven days, we found hope in just believing that
no matter what came from Zev's extreme prematurity, you know,
whether he lived or died or never, never, never, we
would stand in a place of belief that whatever came

(38:13):
from this, we would experience a big and full and
beautiful life for him, whatever that life looked like, and
that we as his parents, would experience a big and
beautiful life for ourselves too. And now we bring that
same hope and healing impossibility to other families who are
experiencing the journey.

Speaker 6 (38:29):
Of the Niku through for those are nonprofit.

Speaker 5 (38:31):
And I will tell you, it is the scariest thing
ever to walk in to. And you've just had a baby, right,
And if you're the mom, you've just had a baby,
you feel like you've just had a baby. And then
you see this little human that you've created, and they're
attached to fifty million wires and there's tubes, and there's
an IV in their foot, and it's just the most

(38:52):
incredibly overwhelming experience. And like I said, I only went
through it for twelve days, and because my daughter was
almost full term, she was just in fetal distress, so
we delivered her a couple weeks early. She was this
ginormous eight pound baby in a room where I started
calling them teacup babies. I would have referred to your
son as a teacup baby because they look like they

(39:12):
could just fit into a teacup, so tiny, so so tidy.
So there's all these machines and you don't know what
they do, and it's just there's so much. And I
would have loved anyone like you to be able to
help walk us through that, So tell me about for those.

Speaker 6 (39:29):
Yeah, I think you know exactly what you're saying.

Speaker 8 (39:33):
You know, the shock of the NIKU can be really
intense for people, especially when you have these little you know,
we call them micro premies, babies born before twenty six weeks.
They have all of these machines hooked up. You're not
quite sure what's going on.

Speaker 6 (39:47):
You know.

Speaker 8 (39:47):
We couldn't hold Zev for a month, you know that,
and even when we did, it was so touch and go.
You know, Zev was going through so many different ups
and downs and highs and lows, and we just kept
holding on that hope that whatever came next, we could
walk through it. And when we were there, you know,
on one of his worst nights, that was when we
sort of decided we're going to create the place that

(40:10):
you know, there's so much narrative in the NIKU around
what could happen, you know, what would happen to your children,
you know, your child, your children being hooked up to
all these things and all these different outcomes that can.

Speaker 6 (40:20):
Feel really scary and lonely.

Speaker 8 (40:22):
And what we're doing with for those is telling a
new story around extreme prematurity. We are saying Hey, however
this road goes, you're not alone, and when you come
out of here on the other side, we're going to
be here to walk you through it and to catch you,
to help provide that same hope, healing impossibility through for
those you know, through our programming, we do you know,

(40:43):
a nick You family day out every year, which is
basically like a mini fair. You know, there's a train
and ponies and petting zoos and face painting and all
these fun things for kids. Because what we found was
zev after all this impossible narrative, to watch him do
these really incredible little kid things, you know, it just
brought so much healing to us as as parents.

Speaker 6 (41:05):
We had made it through such a hard season.

Speaker 8 (41:07):
We're here to celebrate that with other families, to provide
memories and these wonderful places for them where the whole family,
siblings included, to live out the big story after the
niqu And then for parents. You know, what we found
when we came out is where do we put all
these feelings that we had, these highs, these lows. It's
emotional whiplash in there, you know, how do we sort

(41:28):
of give these parents a place to heal too, to say,
we've been through this big journey, we have fought for
our children against impossible odds. Where can I go to
start believing in a big, beautiful future for myself as well?

Speaker 7 (41:41):
I am.

Speaker 5 (41:41):
On my daughter's first birthday, we took her and we
took lunch to the to the nurses of the NICU,
like we.

Speaker 4 (41:48):
Just went back to the hospital.

Speaker 5 (41:49):
And by this point, I mean when we left the
hospital with her, we were told and you know what,
I understand the medical system, I get it, but they
just give you the worst case scenario. They literally tell
you the worst thing that can happen, so your expectations
are managed. So we leave the hospital being told, we
don't know she's gonna walk or do any of these things.
And I cannot even tell you how normal my daughter

(42:11):
is right now. So obviously's fifteen now, so obviously none
of that panned out. But we went back and took
lunch to the nick you nurses and two of them
started crying. They said, we never get to see the
babies who do better.

Speaker 4 (42:22):
So it was like a really for us.

Speaker 5 (42:24):
It was just a way to say thank you to
the people who were so important in our family. But
this what you're doing sounds like it's so needed to
just be able to get your questions answered by people
who have been through it before.

Speaker 4 (42:36):
I mean, what a what a great thing you.

Speaker 5 (42:39):
Guys are doing. Let's talk about the movie though. Now
you're a movie star too, Stephanie, you're just doing it all.
Tell me about one forty seven.

Speaker 8 (42:49):
So one forty seven, So the backstory of one forty seven.
That's a documentary that we have it out now by
our friends at Farsighted Creative. So one forty seven came
about when we started for those, I thought, okay, what can.

Speaker 6 (43:01):
We do to bring attention to this?

Speaker 8 (43:03):
Really the long and hard journey, but the beautiful journey
as well that it's encapsulated in the nick you and
so I thought, okay, so we're launching for those, how
do we bring awareness to this? How do we raise
money for this? And I thought, okay, I can I
can run. That's one thing I can do. So I thought,
all right, what can we do to make a big splash.
I'm going to run one hundred and forty seven miles

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one for every day. Zev was in that NICKU to
bring hope, feeling and possibility to other families who are.

Speaker 6 (43:28):
Sitting there saying, I'm sitting in the valley.

Speaker 8 (43:30):
I need to know there's a mountaintop somewhere, you know,
and we've you know, I'm willing to go through that
valley to get to that mountaintop and then I want
to come back and bring that to the other people
who are going through the hard things. And so with
one forty seven, so a year ago September, I took off.
I had to run one hundred and forty seven miles
over forty eight hours, and our friends get along and
filmed it.

Speaker 9 (43:50):
You were communities beside the video and stuff like that,
and we created a documentary that tells the story of
both that long, hard run and also the narrative of
the nick you you know, sort of wound up into
it as well.

Speaker 6 (44:03):
And so what we're doing with the documentary.

Speaker 8 (44:05):
It's been around to multiple film festivals here in Colorado.
We just had a fundraising screening of it and Boulder.
We brought it home to our community, and we're getting
ready to start licensing it out as well. So it's
been so fun to see the movement grow, to see
people hear our story in a new way.

Speaker 6 (44:21):
Through one forty seven, it's been awesome.

Speaker 4 (44:23):
So how can people get involved?

Speaker 5 (44:25):
I mean, how do people find out about you if
they are going through this? How do you bring people
into the fold?

Speaker 6 (44:33):
Well, we're so lucky we have such a big community.

Speaker 8 (44:35):
We still have connections as well with our nurses and
doctors from that time in the hospital.

Speaker 6 (44:39):
Zev's five.

Speaker 8 (44:40):
Now he lives a healthy and thriving life as a
five year old, and we do go back and see
our nick You family as well all the time.

Speaker 6 (44:47):
Gosh, what a gift our nick.

Speaker 8 (44:49):
You nurses and all the care team there were to us,
and so they spread the word for us.

Speaker 6 (44:55):
You can go to our website.

Speaker 8 (44:57):
Www dot four those that's number fourt dot org. You
can sign up for our newsletter. You can see when
you know we'll send up information when we're doing more screenings.

Speaker 6 (45:06):
Our biggest ask is that if.

Speaker 8 (45:08):
You know someone in the Nikku right now, would you
tell them about for them, you know, the whole healing
and possibility that comes from these impossible journeys in the Niku,
these long stays. We're here on the other side to say,
whatever comes next, we're here to get you through it.
We're here to support you as you go. You know
you could just follow us on Instagram too for those
org or on Facebook.

Speaker 5 (45:29):
Well, I love, love, love this organization so much. Somebody
and it's Zev right, Zev.

Speaker 8 (45:37):
At Ev And yeah, you can hear a whole story
at the Zev Project. It's a podcast I did after
we got out of the NIKU to just tell a
new story. You know, there's all this fear and a
you know, uncertainty about the future. We're here to just
say whatever future comes, it can be beautiful, even in
the hard stuff.

Speaker 5 (45:53):
Well, we always had the attitude when we got all
the you know, negative possible prognosis, we were like, look,
we're just gonna do everything we can treat her like
a normal kid and just let the ships fall where
they may, because you can get too caught up and
worrying about what's going to happen or what's not going
to happen, and then that just makes the whole thing worse.
I have put links to everything. I've put links to

(46:14):
four of those on the blog. I put the trailer
for the movie on the blog so people can see it.
There are you Do you have any showings around like
in the Denver Metro coming up anytime soon?

Speaker 8 (46:26):
Currently not right now we are still we're getting ready
to license it out. We're just waiting for it to
finish its festival run and then we'll be able to
bring it back to the Denver area.

Speaker 6 (46:35):
So stay tuned on our website.

Speaker 8 (46:37):
Like I said, you can find all the information there
and we'll keep everyone posted on when you can come
and see it.

Speaker 6 (46:42):
It's going to be so fun.

Speaker 5 (46:43):
Well let me know and I will spread the word
for my listeners. And Stephanie Hawser, thank you so much
for coming on the show and for everything you're doing,
because I know twelve days was the longest twelve days
of my life.

Speaker 4 (46:54):
You were in it almost six months.

Speaker 5 (46:56):
I cannot even imagine, but I can imagine what it
must have been like the day you walked out of
that hospital was zev. That feeling is like no other
feeling in the entire world, And that's what I focus
on when I think about the nick you that day
we left.

Speaker 6 (47:14):
That's right, that's right, and I think what you said
was just right. We're all part of this club. We
all know that feeling.

Speaker 8 (47:20):
It is such an incredible moment. You know you've you've
gotten through one of the hardest situations in your life.
And now we get to provide through for those the
place where you get to live out that beautiful future
out here in the world.

Speaker 5 (47:32):
It's so good, Stephanie, thank you so much for your
time today. Thank you, it was so good to be here,
all right. That is Stephanie Hauser with for those. I
put a link to the Instagram.

Speaker 4 (47:42):
Page, the Facebook page, thefo those dot org page. It's
just for the number four those dot org. What a
great way to take just you guys.

Speaker 5 (47:54):
I can't even begin I mean I probably could, but
I would probably start crying those twelve days. Chuck will
tell you if you ever meet Chuck, He'll say to you,
I've been shot, I've been stabbed, and would I would
do all of those again if I could never do
the nick You twelve days again.

Speaker 4 (48:13):
My great nephew says.

Speaker 5 (48:14):
This texter was born five weeks premature and spent the
first month of his life at Children's Hospital. Nick You
in two thousand and nine, been there thirty six days
for this texter.

Speaker 4 (48:25):
So yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 5 (48:30):
Did anybody else watch Joe Rogan The jd Vance? Joe Rogan, Crystal,
did you watch it yet? Joe Rogan jd Vance?

Speaker 4 (48:38):
Okay, so I.

Speaker 5 (48:39):
Started watching it last night and I got through like
forty five minutes of it last night. Listen to the
rest of it, and not all of it. I still
have like a half hour left on the end by
the time I'm done finished what hashtag Vance twenty twenty eight. Okay,
I'm all in, And I have to say I think JD.
Vance is proving that Donald Trump made the right choice

(49:06):
for his campaign. And he made the right choice in
a big way with JD. I mean, he really truly did.
This guy is so good at articulating controversial issues.

Speaker 6 (49:22):
But he seems so.

Speaker 4 (49:24):
Likable and dare I say normal? He's just like us.
Although seeing this and Trump dropping the.

Speaker 5 (49:32):
S word in his rallies, now we have now crossed
the rubicon of cursing, and we no longer should expect
our politicians to refrain from way back when Joe Biden
said on a hot mac Barack.

Speaker 4 (49:47):
This is a big blanken deal.

Speaker 5 (49:52):
And I'm trying to decide if I'm bothered by it?
Are you bothered by politicians cursing a rod?

Speaker 6 (49:56):
Does it bother you?

Speaker 5 (49:57):
I mean, is this like I'm an old person thing.
I just need to know where where where the I mean,
there's a certain level.

Speaker 4 (50:02):
Of decorum, you know.

Speaker 2 (50:04):
I actually you said you don't like it.

Speaker 6 (50:06):
I don't.

Speaker 4 (50:07):
I don't, I don't love it.

Speaker 2 (50:08):
I'm actually kind of with you. I I want that decorum,
leave the leave the ridiculousness to us, the peons with
the lowers.

Speaker 5 (50:16):
In the interview with Jadie Vance, he I mean, I'm
I'm guessing that he and Joe Rogan are best friends.
Now I'm just gonna say it. I think they're best friends.
Like they might be raiding each other's hair right now.

Speaker 4 (50:25):
We don't know.

Speaker 5 (50:26):
Well we know because Joe Rogan doesn't have hair. But
nonetheless JD. Vance is funny, He's relatable. He tells stories
about his kids and his wife, and everybody's like, ah,
those sound like my family. It was just really I
think this interview probably cemented the male vote that was
still maybe waffling, and maybe it'll get some of those

(50:49):
beta males who are dating really domineering left wing women
and they're gonna secretly go into the voter box and.

Speaker 4 (50:55):
Their pen's gonna hover over the kamlaba and then it's like, nah,
vote but Trump. I don't know this.

Speaker 5 (51:02):
Texter said, Vance talks like me. And my friends no
offense to you, text her. I don't want you and
your friends to be president and vice president.

Speaker 4 (51:10):
And I don't even know you.

Speaker 6 (51:13):
I mean, you know, I'm just saying, as.

Speaker 4 (51:16):
A matter of fact, I'm gonna bring up a story.

Speaker 5 (51:17):
I've been trying to figure out how to deal with
this story because I genuinely I like Danielle Dorinsky.

Speaker 4 (51:23):
We're not like outside the show friends. We don't chit chat.

Speaker 5 (51:27):
About things, you know, we don't talk about life, we
don't braid each other's hair. But I've been really impressed
with her passion for Aurora. But some very unflattering things
have come out about Danielle Drinsky and the way she
treats her colleagues on the Aurora City Council.

Speaker 4 (51:42):
She sends profane text messages to people who should politically
be her allies. Now, just because someone is your political
ally doesn't mean you're going to agree on every issue.

Speaker 5 (51:55):
But apparently she's prone to very, very very significant outbursts
and the text messages that were shared by someone that
they were sent to are definitely profane, and.

Speaker 4 (52:09):
I don't like that. I think that it's important for
the people who are elected to represent us to represent
us at a higher level than we probably represent ourselves.
And I'm gonna use myself as an example in my
real life.

Speaker 5 (52:26):
Oh I curse, ask a Rod, I curse. I don't
hold back you. Yes, no, never ever. I love that
A Rod is now pseudo covering for me. I appreciate you,
but all the reading, but on the radio, not the
time or place.

Speaker 2 (52:44):
So I don't dump.

Speaker 5 (52:45):
But I never used it on myself. I have never
ever had to dump myself. I mean maybe because I
told it an inappropriate joke, but not because I said
a bad word. And I'm worried because I think Danielle
could have a really bright future in politics.

Speaker 4 (53:01):
But people will only put up with so much of your.

Speaker 5 (53:04):
Crap before they not only turn on you, but turn
on you in a way that damages your political future.

Speaker 2 (53:10):
Relatability goes only so far when it comes to hearing
a politician swear. I think you think it's really like, oh,
they're a real person. But then you think better than correct,
you wonder you start to think, as time goes on,
the lack of filter, the lack of decorum, what does
that mean for other things? That I need them to
be buttoned up with that those concerns come into play

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after the five minutes of Wow, that was really cool
wears off.

Speaker 5 (53:35):
Yeah yeah, Mandy, your first year at KOA, you cussed
repeatedly after Mike Rose, and I wasn't fond of it.

Speaker 4 (53:42):
I don't actually say the curse words.

Speaker 5 (53:44):
I say a whole a lot, but if it's deserved,
I need to be able to call somebody that.

Speaker 2 (53:49):
Yeah, my favorite is the FNA and F and o oh.

Speaker 7 (53:54):
Yeah my favorite. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (53:56):
Anyway, jd Vance can tone down the F bomb in public,
save it for beers with the boys in the basement.

Speaker 4 (54:03):
I agree.

Speaker 5 (54:05):
I agree, there's a huge difference between cursing every sentence
and using a curse word every once in a while.

Speaker 2 (54:12):
But why.

Speaker 5 (54:14):
The words are wrong or they're you know, they're offensive
to some or not. And here's the thing about politicians cursing.
You don't want to offend any voter, and there are
people who get deeply offended.

Speaker 4 (54:25):
When you curse.

Speaker 5 (54:27):
I found this out the hard way multiple times. Has
it stopped me now, but it's made me more keenly
aware of who's around me. So you know, I'm not
saying that it is relatable. I would absolutely when't you
love to go to a barbecue.

Speaker 4 (54:43):
With jd Vance after this interview.

Speaker 5 (54:44):
I mean, come on, he's so likable, and if he
was hanging around with me, paling around and we were,
you know, cheating the breeze a little bit, then yeah.
But when you're presenting yourself, you're running for office, you
want to be the president of vice president the United States.
I just I want to be able to expect better
in a public setting. I am not trying to please

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what anybody does with her friends. I am not trying
to police what anybody does when they're just you know,
hanging around with people.

Speaker 2 (55:12):
But I just don't like it.

Speaker 4 (55:14):
I don't love it.

Speaker 5 (55:16):
I'm afraid that rubicon remark would have gone right over
so many heads. Sad I know, well, I'm not gonna
dumb down my fancy talk just because nobody knows what
the heck I'm talking about.

Speaker 4 (55:27):
Mister uh Mandy.

Speaker 5 (55:30):
I think Danielle showed her true colors that the Trump
rally here, the way she was yelling. Maybe this person
said she is under an incredible amount of stress. Yes,
and that is one of the reasons that I have
been trying to figure out how to handle this, because
I don't know her well enough, I don't know. And
we're back to Danielle Drinsky. I don't know her well
enough to say, well, this is her personality or she

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is under stress, or describe any kind.

Speaker 4 (55:52):
But it's still not okay.

Speaker 5 (55:54):
The text messages were bad, you guys, they were like effor.

Speaker 4 (56:00):
I mean, it was bad.

Speaker 6 (56:02):
It was bad.

Speaker 4 (56:04):
And here's the thing.

Speaker 5 (56:05):
You're never gonna convince anyone. You're never gonna win support
for the things that you need to win support for
by alienating and mistreating the people that should be on
your side.

Speaker 4 (56:16):
And Francois Bergen is the nicest woman.

Speaker 5 (56:20):
She's honestly like the nicest woman, and Danielle has apparently
unleashed these tirades at her, and I just if anybody
knows Danielle. I've actually thought about reaching out to her because,
as I said, I think she could have a really
bright future.

Speaker 4 (56:33):
But that is not okay.

Speaker 5 (56:35):
And you're gonna alienate all the people that you need
to affect real change. One person on any board, on
any commission cannot affect real change without the support of
other people. And if you tick them all off, they
are never gonna help you do the things that you
want to do so uh again. If you know her,
I'd love to chat with her about it. I'm gonna
reach out, but it's just it's it's out there in

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the news media. By the way, you guys, this is
I'm not just giving up secrets here. This is a
story in one of the local rags, so you can
check it out for yourself when we get back. I'm
not saying I'm already dipping into the win Jogi's wine
pairings for candy and wine, but there's wine to my left.

Speaker 4 (57:14):
When we get back, though. When we get back, I
want to talk about a.

Speaker 5 (57:18):
New Common Sense Institute study about how downtown Denver has recovered,
and it dovetails perfectly with.

Speaker 4 (57:24):
A point that I made earlier this week. It's about safety.

Speaker 5 (57:28):
Stupid three musketeers with a slightly bubbly Goowitz demeanor from
Chill Switch has got it going on. We're gonna talk
about that in about an hour now. In the meantime, though,
a couple of things. One today, I want to remind
you that you can go out and see the KOA
Sports guys at the Verizon in Lyttleton on South Santa Fe.

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They're gonna have tickets to the Falcons game to give away.
There's gonna be cheerleaders there, there's gonna be football players
former or Bronco football players there as well. So they
sure hope you have time to stop by between three
and six that the store on South Santa Fe in
Lyttleton two days to make sure you do that. So
earlier this week we were talking and I don't honestly
remember a rod do you remember why we were talking

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about downtown Denver and safety in downtown Denver, about how
that's why people weren't going back there. I don't remember
what we were talking about, but we literally talked about
it like Monday of this week, and downtown Denver, in
my opinion, could recover so much faster if the following

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things happened.

Speaker 4 (58:32):
If Mayor Mike.

Speaker 5 (58:32):
Johnston and the police chief and everybody involved in public
safety calls a press conference and they just say, we
know that public safety and crime are a concern in
downtown Denver, and here are the following strategies that we're
going to employ to ensure a safe and fun experience
in downtown Denver. And then you start making all kinds

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of arrest. You arrest everybody for everything you ticket everybody.
You go zero tolerance on all the stupid crap happening downtown,
and then over a two to three month period, you
start shining a focus on all the arrests that you've made.
Because here's the thing. Right now, criminals know that they
will pay no penalty for crime. If they do get arrested,

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the das will just turn them right back out onto
the streets.

Speaker 4 (59:22):
Ask any cop about that.

Speaker 5 (59:23):
Revolving door and how demoralizing that is. But at the
same time, it infers at least that Denver is serious
about law enforcement, and therefore maybe we can have a
community that could treat our law enforcement in Denver with
dare I say respect or even gratitude. Call me crazy.

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For every bad cop, there's a ton of good ones.
That's the reality. So we have to shift the tone
in the Denver metro when it comes to the conversation
about police.

Speaker 4 (59:59):
And then after you in a.

Speaker 5 (01:00:00):
Few months really going after crime, and then people are like,
you know what, maybe I can go downtown without my
car being broken into. Maybe I can park with it
and have some certainty that my car is going to
be there when I get back. That is what's got
to happen. First, and part of that is continuing to
deal with homelessness in downtown Denver. The last three times

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I have driven through Denver, the thing I have noticed,
because you have to understand I live. I live in
Douglas County, right, I live in the hinterlands. So when
I do go downtown, and I was just downtown Monday night,
I try to look around. I look for things like
yard signs. I look for things like homeless encampments. I
look to see where the urban outdoorsmen are gathering. And
the difference is significant when it comes to downtown Denver

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and homelessness. Now, I'm not gonna sit here and tell
you that there's no homeless people, because that's a lie.
But what I am telling you is that the downtown
doesn't look like a pit. But do I want to
go spend a bunch of time downtown. No, I don't
because I still don't have confidence that as a single woman,
if I come out of a restaurant where I just
had dinner with my friends, I would feel safe walking
to my car.

Speaker 4 (01:01:05):
And what's funny about that, you guys. I feel safe
walking around New York City, I feel safe walking around Chicago.
I feel safe walking.

Speaker 5 (01:01:13):
Around many cities, but there are certain places in Denver
I don't feel safe walking around.

Speaker 4 (01:01:17):
And until you can address that, nothing else matters. But
this story in the Denver Gazette is very frustrating because
the Common Sense Institute did a study on how downtown's
nationwide have recovered from the pandemic, and what they found
was downtown Denver's recovering from the pandemic shutdowns lags behind

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other downtowns, and they say due to crime, homelessness, and
high office vacancy rates. Now, the office vacancy rates are insane,
really really crazy. Twenty three percent in downtown Denver. That
is a huge number. And here's the thing.

Speaker 5 (01:01:56):
It's not like each building has twenty three percent of vacancies.
Many of these vacancies are in older buildings, meaning it
gets harder for the landlords to update them, maintain them,
attract new clientele.

Speaker 4 (01:02:10):
So you have kind of deserts where there are not
as many people.

Speaker 5 (01:02:15):
Now, what's interesting about this is Kelly Bruff, who not
only ran for mayor, but she was the former head
of the Metro Denver Chamber of Commerce. She's the one
who is a CSI fellow talking about this study she said,
I was surprised to see how much we were lagging.
Out of fifty five cities surveyed on some eighty criteria,

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Denver's foot traffic recovery is the eleventh lowest among US
cities for weekends, twentieth lowest for weekdays, eighteenth flowist for
working hours, and twelfth lowest for after hours and whole weekends.
Nobody is going downtown on the weekend, especially during the day.
But for me, I think for most of you, I mean,

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is there any other thing that they could do downtown
other than what I just laid out? Like give me,
give me totalitarianism for like six months, right, if you
do anything wrong, you're getting a ticket in Denver and
just clean the place up.

Speaker 4 (01:03:15):
And that's what I'd like to know. I mean, what
for me, that's what's gonna have to happen. But the denial,
the denial of it in this article is what's super frustrating.
They talk to the Denver Downtown Partnership and.

Speaker 5 (01:03:34):
They're basically saying, look, you know, it's it's uh, it's
it's office vacancies. But people are coming back because we're
opening up the sixteen Street mall. If you cannot create
the impression in the wider metro area that things.

Speaker 4 (01:03:51):
Are safe downtown. You you can't expect people to come back.
You just can't.

Speaker 6 (01:03:56):
Now.

Speaker 5 (01:03:56):
What's going to be really interesting to see Apartment vacant
are up. We finally have enough apartments for everybody, and
that means that some of these newer places downtown may
be able to offer lower rents that would be more competitive.

Speaker 2 (01:04:10):
I don't know.

Speaker 5 (01:04:11):
We're gonna have to wait and see. So this study
doesn't say anything surprising to me.

Speaker 4 (01:04:18):
But what's surprising is the dogged denial that going after
and coming out and being open and frank and honest
and saying, you know what, we know what's happened in downtown.
We know, so here's what we're gonna do, and then
do it. At least it not only says to.

Speaker 5 (01:04:35):
Law abiding citizens, we know what's happening and we're gonna
fix it. It also says to criminals, we know what's happening,
and we're gonna fix it.

Speaker 4 (01:04:45):
Because those things go hand in hand. It's kind of like.

Speaker 5 (01:04:50):
Not pulling over cars that don't have a license plate
or they have really out of date plates is driving
me crazy, because that is one of those broken windows
types things right, and let me just hear me out.

Speaker 4 (01:05:01):
The broken windows theory is that if you allow, if
you allow.

Speaker 5 (01:05:10):
Little things to go by, and if you allow windows
to remain broken on a block, people perceive that it
is downtrodden in therefore ripe for crime and other things.
There are tons of people caught who have either warrants
or they're caught with firearms, or they're caught with other things.
By pulling people over for not having tags on their cars,

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tons of people get arrested that way. As a matter
of fact, I have a story on the blog today
that in November the Denver Police Department is going to
be doing tag and registration enforcement.

Speaker 4 (01:05:43):
I have two friends who got a DUI.

Speaker 5 (01:05:45):
Because their tags were out of date and they got
pulled over for having expired tags and ended.

Speaker 4 (01:05:49):
Up getting a DUI.

Speaker 5 (01:05:51):
So they catch a lot of low level criminals and
get them off the streets at least temporarily until the
DA's just turn them out again. So there's advantage to
taking care of this stuff, and Downtown Denver has to
go at it. If I were then I would look
at it like this rip off the band aid or
peel it off one hair at a time. My way's faster,

(01:06:12):
Your ways slower and far more painful. But hey, you
can do whatever you want. Text line the Common Spirit
health text line. Here's a text he I agree. I
don't feel safe being downtown. Part of the problem is
I don't like that there's any major attractions. For example,
in San Francisco, you have a beachfront or the wharf,
or a little shopping areas that are interesting. There's some

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cool attractions that draw people there. In Denver, it's just
buildings and restaurants and that's all. My takeaway is I
was talking to someone recently and suggested she go to
Boulder and walk their Pearl Street mall. To me, that's
more interesting than walking around downtown Denver. The sad thing
is is that there's, you know, so many businesses have
closed that there's not as.

Speaker 4 (01:06:55):
Much to see.

Speaker 5 (01:06:55):
It becomes what they call a doom Spiralal do I
think Denver's doom squire will?

Speaker 1 (01:07:00):
No?

Speaker 4 (01:07:01):
I don't, But do I think the possibility exists?

Speaker 2 (01:07:03):
Yes?

Speaker 4 (01:07:04):
I do, which is why we're having this conversation. A Rod,
did you hear this story? Peanut?

Speaker 5 (01:07:09):
Little squirrel guy guy found a little squirrel. He saw
his mom get hit by a car, so he took
him to his house in New York bottle fed him.
He was gonna try and release the baby squirrel, but
then he released him and he came back, and then
he came back with half his tail missing, and he's like,
this kid's never gonna survive, so he just made him
a house squirrel. And Peanuts been Internet famous for a

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long time. He had an Instagram page, and some busybody
do Gooder decided to call the state on this guy
and report him for having a squirrel that he's not
allowed to have in New York State. Big announcement, the
state killed Peanut. So I hope that animal loving do
Gooder who's an animal rights activist is happy that the

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cutest little squirrel that you swear little top hats on
Instagram is now dead because you.

Speaker 4 (01:08:00):
Decided to be a busybody and call the government. You
got that squirrel killed, And I hope you weep for
the rest of your life over the squirrel that you
were responsible for sending to his death. Peanut, Rip, Peanut, Rip,
little squirrel. I mean, is there anything government doesn't ruin seriously?

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And I'm just asking this kind of like jokingly but not.
They can't just let the guy keep the damn.

Speaker 5 (01:08:30):
Squirrel and say, hey man, we're gonna let you keep Peanut,
but you gotta keep him off the internet. Do you
think the guy would have been like, deal, I'm taking
a squirrel back. But instead they killed Peanut. That's just
like government in a nutshell, someone calls the government and says, government,
someone's doing something I disagree with. I'd like you to intervene.
Government's like, we got you, lady man. Whoever, although don't

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you know.

Speaker 6 (01:08:55):
It's a lady.

Speaker 4 (01:08:56):
Don't you know that this is a woman?

Speaker 7 (01:08:58):
Do you not?

Speaker 4 (01:08:58):
I mean I can clear see her with her care
and haircut and her Peeda T shirt. It's wrong that
this man is keeping the squirrel captive and making him
work against his will and make money on the internet.
Peto has to be saved.

Speaker 5 (01:09:15):
Well, they've saved him in New York. They might save
him for supper because he's dead now. It's just horrible.
What a horrible story, an absolutely horrible story.

Speaker 4 (01:09:30):
What what is happening? Goll Lee? Anyway, Mandy, I.

Speaker 5 (01:09:38):
Thought drop off ballot boxes were supposed to have a
camera on it.

Speaker 4 (01:09:41):
They're not on the camera.

Speaker 5 (01:09:43):
As a matter of fact, thank you for bringing that up. Text,
because I have a an article or a column by
Heidie Gannall linked on the blog today and Heidi lays
out the various election concerns that she has raised that
I think need to be addressed.

Speaker 4 (01:09:59):
Some of them may be easily addressed. They could be like, nope,
we got this. Here's what some of them are. Things
like the cameras that are supposed to be.

Speaker 5 (01:10:07):
Aimed at dropboxes have two issues in many places. Number one,
the cameras do not meet the minimum standards of quality.

Speaker 4 (01:10:15):
There is simply no excuse for this.

Speaker 5 (01:10:17):
When I can go to Amazon and buy an outdoor
security camera for ninety nine dollars that has four K capability,
There's no reason why we shouldn't have a good camera
and then do this crazy thing where we can actually
see the faces of the people that are dropping off ballots.
I know, y'all, it's so crazy. It is so crazy

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to expect people to, I don't know, do what they're
required by law to do. So yeah, yeah, that's what's happening.
That's what's happening. Text, are well done, Candle in the
wind for Peanut all right, pe peanut, I'm tipping you

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know what, when the wine Yogi gives me a little
taste of whin, I'm just gonna tip some out for
my homie, my little homie, Peanut.

Speaker 4 (01:11:06):
He was a really cute squirrel. Oh oh, oh, my goodness.

Speaker 5 (01:11:11):
And now the text line is in fuego Mandy government
in a nutshell pun intended.

Speaker 4 (01:11:17):
I did not mean that, but I I'm gonna take that.

Speaker 5 (01:11:21):
See my brain is making up incredible puns without hell.

Speaker 7 (01:11:24):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:11:24):
Yeah, yeah, how about this one. The squirrel is cremated.
Now he's roasted peanuts.

Speaker 2 (01:11:30):
Get out, get out, get out? No oh thank you?
No no, no, no, no, no no no yeah yeah,
so yeah, I'm going squirrely over here. Stop. I grew
up in.

Speaker 5 (01:11:47):
Florida, where they have the meanest squirrels in the history
of squirrels. They will literally pelt you with with acorns
as you try to go outside. We had this massive
live oak tree, I mean massive. The base was probably
ten feet around.

Speaker 4 (01:12:00):
It was huge, and all the squirrels. We try and
go out on the back patio and they would hurl
those acorns at you until you went back inside. They
were like, it's our territory. You go back inside your house. Human.

Speaker 5 (01:12:15):
Anyway, when we get back, what do we have In
the next hour, We have the win Yogi coming in
to talk candy and wine pairings. And as I have
tested her selections, I have my two favorites. And of course,
once again Reese's peanut butter is involved in the first one.

Speaker 6 (01:12:31):
That's the second one.

Speaker 4 (01:12:32):
I'm a little bit surprised about it.

Speaker 5 (01:12:33):
I was a little surprised that you could make a
Three Musketeers even better.

Speaker 4 (01:12:37):
But low and behold, she did.

Speaker 6 (01:12:40):
She did?

Speaker 4 (01:12:42):
Uh they were allergic? Who was allergic? I'm not No,
We're not going to do that.

Speaker 5 (01:12:46):
Plus, Jerry Seinfeld calls out his kids' school for coddling.

Speaker 4 (01:12:50):
And Bob Gustis is out.

Speaker 2 (01:12:54):
We'll do that next.

Speaker 1 (01:12:55):
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Speaker 4 (01:13:21):
Welcome, Welcome, Welcome to the third hour of the show.

Speaker 5 (01:13:23):
I would like to say a very happy dwala dwale
to any who celebrate. This is a festival of lights
and very very important holiday in Hindu culture. Buddhas celebrate
as well as do a few other religions. It's a
big holiday in India, and I like it because it is.
There's different kind of backstories to Dwali, but the big

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overwhelming takeaway is it is a triumph of good over evil.

Speaker 4 (01:13:50):
So I love the whole concept.

Speaker 5 (01:13:52):
It's celebrated yesterday and today, and it floats, it doesn't.
I don't think it's the same day as every single year.
But I just wanted to say a happy d Wally
to our Indian listeners or anyone who celebrates that holiday.

Speaker 4 (01:14:06):
Now, I love this story.

Speaker 5 (01:14:08):
I love it because it's so it's almost like the
Babylon Bee made a school, only it's not the Babylon
b and people parents in New York City spend sixty
five grand plus a year to send their kids to
the ethical culture Fieldston School. Now, when you send your

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kids to the ethical culture Fieldston School, you know exactly
what you're getting. You're getting ethical culture at Fieldston School.

Speaker 4 (01:14:42):
Well, they sent out an email.

Speaker 5 (01:14:43):
This, by the way, is where Jerry Seinfeld's youngest son
had been going had been the operative word in an
email titled Election Day Support Stacy Bobo. Now, is it
just me or is there her name's shockingly close to Bozo.
Stacey Bobo, principal of the upper school, said, listen to this.

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So they're talking about election day. Okay, they're talking about
election day and oh dang it, I can't click through
and get the whole email. In the email, it said,
we acknowledge that this may be a high stakes and

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emotional time for students. They added, no matter the election outcome,
the school will create space to provide students with the
support they may need.

Speaker 4 (01:15:41):
But that's not all. That's not all.

Speaker 5 (01:15:45):
They are also not requiring students to come to school
the day after the election if they're too emotionally distressed
because of the results. But it's not just the day
after the election, because what if we don't have the
presidential election.

Speaker 4 (01:16:01):
Results for a few days at any time when the
presidential election is announced, if it's too much for these
young schools of mush in New York City, they can
just stay home until they can have the mental health
capacity to make it to school after such a terrible day.
God forbid, Donald Trump wins. They don't say that last part,
but it's implied.

Speaker 7 (01:16:22):
Now.

Speaker 5 (01:16:23):
Jerry Seinfeld has pulled his son out of this school
and said this decision like this, this is what irritated
him so much and forced him to transfer his kid out.

Speaker 4 (01:16:38):
This is what he had to say, He said, this
is why the kids hated it.

Speaker 5 (01:16:41):
What kind of lives have these people led that makes
them think this is the right way to handle young people,
to encourage them to buckle. This is the lesson they're
providing for ungodly sums of money.

Speaker 4 (01:16:52):
Now it gets better. It gets better, you guys, because.

Speaker 5 (01:16:55):
They found another parent parent, John Keuchman, he has two
daughters at the school. He thought the Times well, He
told the Times he thought the plan from the school
was wise.

Speaker 4 (01:17:07):
He said, and this is a quote. I think it's
absolutely the right decision. These students are very astute. I
think their rights are on the line, whether it's on
election night or in five years, and they know it.
The email also pointed out no homework would be assigned
on election day and no assessments would take place on Wednesday.

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Absences would be allowed on Wednesday or whenever the full
election results are announced for students who are unable to
quote fully engage in classes. They also, this is real.

Speaker 5 (01:17:42):
You guys, this is a thing that happened at a
school that costs sixty five thousand dollars per year. The
school provided readings which included from Childmind Institute about the
election and helping kids with election related anxiety.

Speaker 4 (01:18:02):
Y'all come on, by the way.

Speaker 5 (01:18:04):
This school, the sixty five thousand dollars a year school,
is also a hot bed of anti Semitism, and with
students painting free Palestine on the outside of the school building.
This is the thing that I don't understand this genuinely,
like I do not get it. The parents that pay
to send their kids there sixty five grand a year,

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I think they are more afraid of being ostracized from
their social circles than they are in raising children that
have resilience, that understand how to bounce back, who understand
that you don't get everything you want in your life,
and that are emotionally stable enough to not freak out

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no matter who gets elected.

Speaker 4 (01:18:50):
I keep telling people, y'all, whichever way this vote goes,
we're screwed this. I love that people think otherwise, But if.

Speaker 5 (01:18:57):
Donald Trump gets elected, we're gonna have four more years
of resistance, which means made up crap by the Democrats
in order to completely torpedo Donald Trump's ability to get
things done.

Speaker 4 (01:19:08):
That is what's going to happen if Kamala Harris gets elected.
My god, we're in the crapper and we have to
listen to her laugh for four years. I don't know
if I can do it. I literally didn't want Ross
Pero to win because I could listen to this for
four years. I'm rath Baro.

Speaker 5 (01:19:29):
I mean, ugh, Okay, there's a TV on right now
on TMZ and it's showing all the Hollywood celebrities in
their Halloween costumes. At what point do Hollywood celebrities just go,
I'm going as a human body and just show up naked.
Because we're very close to that now. I mean, come on,

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that's a Halloween costume.

Speaker 4 (01:19:50):
She's wearing a bikini Halle Berry in James Bond, which
is a good look, by the way, But.

Speaker 5 (01:19:54):
That's your Halloween costume. You're obviously in southern California, not
in New York City.

Speaker 2 (01:19:58):
Not quite.

Speaker 4 (01:19:59):
Heidi et Heidi Glume. I love her and her love
for Halloween.

Speaker 2 (01:20:04):
Me too.

Speaker 5 (01:20:05):
She loves it, and bless her for every year bringing
out some wack a doodle costume.

Speaker 2 (01:20:10):
The worm weird peacock. Yeah, et this year, which is
really good, Mandy.

Speaker 4 (01:20:18):
It's pronounced bo bo and I don't stink you bo zo.
Yes you do, Mandy.

Speaker 6 (01:20:26):
Lol.

Speaker 5 (01:20:27):
They are all spoiled, privileged, rich snobs, so far out
of touch with the reality, including the parents. I think
the parents are the problem. The kids get it, they
understand how stupid it is. Oh, happy Dia de la
Mertos Day of the Dead for my Latin listeners who
may celebrate. Do you know that there is Is it
ex tomorrow?

Speaker 6 (01:20:47):
Right?

Speaker 4 (01:20:48):
No, it's today.

Speaker 5 (01:20:49):
It's today, after Halloween they have the dead Yep. Day
of the Dead is Halloween after Halloween or All Saints
Day tomorrow?

Speaker 4 (01:20:55):
No, it is today. Day of the Dead is today. Yeah,
Crystal knows. She went to Mass.

Speaker 2 (01:21:05):
Today and the day says there is the first and
Saturday at the second.

Speaker 5 (01:21:10):
I want to say it's Ecuador, but I'm not positive.
It's been a while since I read the book. So
I read a book by a more mortician from laf
interviewer on the show a couple of times about death
rituals from around the world, and I think it's an Ecuador.

Speaker 4 (01:21:24):
Dang, And I'm gonna have to go look it up.
In some part of remote Ecuador, they actually bring out.

Speaker 2 (01:21:29):
Their dead on the Day of the Dead, two days
of festivities, is what this says.

Speaker 7 (01:21:33):
I don't know.

Speaker 5 (01:21:34):
They bring out the dead bodies of their relatives and
decorate them and then you know, uh visit with their
dead relatives and then put them back the next day.

Speaker 4 (01:21:44):
So yeah, yeah, manny.

Speaker 5 (01:21:49):
As that great philosopher Mick Jagger once said, Oh, Michael Jagger,
excuse me, I didn't mean to be so personal. Michael
Jagger said, you can't always get what you want, babe.

Speaker 4 (01:21:59):
Ain't that the truth?

Speaker 5 (01:21:59):
And it's time that these little, spoiled, precious little snowflakes
learn the dirty truth, which is you gotta suck it up, Buttercup,
because nobody's coming.

Speaker 4 (01:22:08):
To save you.

Speaker 10 (01:22:09):
You know.

Speaker 5 (01:22:09):
I have to say, I feel like Chuck got robbed
last night because in Queue's candy hall there was no butterfingers.
There's only one, and that's his candy tax I was like,
I will take a one hundred thousand dollars grand bar.
Take that one, because nobody's ever gonna buy that. And
then I took a three musketeers as well, so that

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was it that was a small hall any almendoys, I
wouldn't know. I have almondoid blindness. You put a pile
of candy in front of me, I'm not even gonna
see the almondoids.

Speaker 4 (01:22:40):
It's not like they didn't even didn't even they don't
want to exist. Mm hmm mm hmm. That's true though.

Speaker 5 (01:22:48):
All Right, couple of things on the blog that you
should go look at. First of all, a funny video
about a little boy wants to be a pirate, A
dramatic reinterpretation of a Kamala Harrison that's worth your time.
And a video that shows you what would if you
ever hear that I got murdered by my husband.

Speaker 4 (01:23:06):
This would be what would instigated it.

Speaker 5 (01:23:09):
Me at twelve o'clock in the morning on November first,
singing the Mariah Carey song dressed as a candy cane
in the middle of the night, and I only say that.
You know, here's something I've learned being married to a
combat veteran over twenty almost twenty years.

Speaker 4 (01:23:27):
That is, don't wake them up out of a.

Speaker 5 (01:23:29):
Deep sleep in the middle of the night and not
expect some kind of reaction. I mean, like like karate
chop reaction kind of thing. You gotta be really, you
gotta you gotta reach, you gotta lean in the other direction,
and then kind of reach over it.

Speaker 4 (01:23:45):
Add time and then you just duck because you got
I didn't know Chuck new Karate until I woke up
in the middle of the night accidentally.

Speaker 5 (01:23:53):
I do want to get this in very very quickly,
and that is Bob Costas is retiring from calling play
by play baseball. And I feel like Bob Costas is
unnecessarily polarizing. I don't want to hear him pontificate about
politics ever, ever, ever, ever. But I love his knowledge
of the game. I enjoy watching him and listening to him.

Speaker 4 (01:24:15):
Talk about baseball's records and you know this, I mean
I enjoy that about him. I love his style for baseball.
It is it's it's like melodic and slow and it
just goes.

Speaker 6 (01:24:27):
With the game.

Speaker 4 (01:24:27):
And I am gonna miss Bob Costas calling baseball games.

Speaker 2 (01:24:30):
He's pretty darn good. There's one guy that probably should
have retired before Bob, and that's how Michaels.

Speaker 4 (01:24:37):
You know what, He's got a call, still does a
decent job. Listen to Thursday Night Football.

Speaker 5 (01:24:43):
Yeah, well, No, I watched Thursday Night football this last Thursday. He's,
I've tried to care about that game too, and I
just couldn't.

Speaker 2 (01:24:50):
It just did not care. Telling it who won that
game last night?

Speaker 4 (01:24:53):
I turned it off.

Speaker 5 (01:24:54):
It was Jets and Jets one. Did Aaron Robbins break
a hundred yards?

Speaker 2 (01:24:58):
Oh?

Speaker 8 (01:24:59):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:24:59):
Yeah? Second half?

Speaker 5 (01:25:00):
He turned it on, Okay, because I turned it off
after the boring facetof I was like, I don't care
about this game, and I don't care about these teams.

Speaker 2 (01:25:05):
So big upset. Yeah, but Al's it's just not a
lot of energy. Touchdown Jets. Oh, Kirk Curve Street's doomed
best he can. I now Kirk Curve Street.

Speaker 5 (01:25:18):
When he was on college game Day with Craig James
on game day, but Craig James was with him, and
then who else was on when it first started?

Speaker 4 (01:25:26):
It was Craig James, who was it? Yeah, and then
Kirk cove Street.

Speaker 5 (01:25:32):
And I was in the airport waiting for a flight,
and I look over and the three of them are
sitting like ten feet away.

Speaker 4 (01:25:37):
So I do what any normal human is. I get up,
I slide over.

Speaker 5 (01:25:40):
I'm like, hey, guys, big fan of your work, and
I had a lovely chat with them. This was well
before I was in radio. I was just like a
person and uh and I had a great chat with
him and they were really nice. And I have a
picture of me with them somewhere.

Speaker 2 (01:25:54):
Lee is name career as well. Well. But if he's
still putting on the head gear and no one has
any excuse.

Speaker 4 (01:25:59):
He has got he's had cancer like six times now,
he's awesome. I mean, I lovely Corso.

Speaker 2 (01:26:05):
He lives in.

Speaker 5 (01:26:06):
Sarasota in the last season. He's kind of a legend
in Southwest Florida as well.

Speaker 2 (01:26:11):
But all these all these broadcasters hanging on because that
money's nice.

Speaker 5 (01:26:15):
But I also think it's I really think it's kind
of like this job. I'm gonna use my own job
as an example. This job is so great that you
don't want to give it up. No, and their job
is so great you don't want to walk away. Because
you get when you find a job that you don't
just like, but you really really love, and you get

(01:26:35):
to a point in your career where you don't have
to deal with that much crap about it, Like you
don't have to deal with the politics, and you're not.

Speaker 4 (01:26:40):
Climbing anymore, so you can just enjoy where you are.
I totally get it.

Speaker 5 (01:26:45):
I've always vowed that I would never be a talk
show host, so it hang on too long because I've
heard talk show hosts that have hung on too long
and you can tell they're mailing it in every day,
and I'm not doing that. The wine Yogi's not mailing
it in every day.

Speaker 2 (01:26:59):
I'm not pointing her. I'm playing to her, mouthing people.

Speaker 5 (01:27:05):
Yeah, so how do we get there? I was talking
about Bob Costas, like some people hate Bob Costas. I'm like,
how would you mate Bob Costas? He's like a He's
a little teddy bear. I'm indifferent. I'm indifferent. I don't
like his politics, but I do enjoy him in the
booth in baseball.

Speaker 4 (01:27:22):
I like the way he calls the game.

Speaker 5 (01:27:23):
I feel like Bob Costas retiring is kind of the
final punctuation mark on an era of baseball that is over.
Because the game is so much faster now, it's not
the same. You know, if you go to get a beer,
you can feasibly miss an inning and a half now,
just because the speed.

Speaker 4 (01:27:41):
Of the game.

Speaker 2 (01:27:42):
If I had to agree with the slight of Bob.
It's probably that he comes off as unintentionally pompous. Yes,
just his tone. Yeah, I'm not big of his delivery again,
really really informative, so much knowledge. It's just I think
his delivery doesn't quite hit with me. It just feels like.

Speaker 4 (01:28:01):
I like him for baseball and golf for that very reason.

Speaker 2 (01:28:04):
Olympics. I love him on the Olympics.

Speaker 4 (01:28:06):
I think he does a great job on the Olympics.

Speaker 5 (01:28:07):
Yeah, but yeah, he does have a kind of high
brow feel that can come across as condo.

Speaker 2 (01:28:12):
The next guy I think is taking that that throne
and kind of a hybrid of taking Bob and eventually
Al Michaels, who already has in Sunday Night Football is
Mike Rico.

Speaker 6 (01:28:24):
Oh.

Speaker 4 (01:28:24):
I love Mike Terrico. I got to meet him at
They Hail once.

Speaker 2 (01:28:27):
Was he was. He as absolutely fantastics I would expect.

Speaker 4 (01:28:30):
So nice.

Speaker 5 (01:28:31):
Maybe the nicest broadcaster I've ever met in my life.
I've talked to him for like forty five minutes about everything,
Asked him his favorite thing to cover, Ask him which
sport he cover that he had no idea about before
he got there.

Speaker 6 (01:28:43):
He was bad.

Speaker 4 (01:28:44):
We should get him on the show. He's a great interview.

Speaker 2 (01:28:46):
I'm so very down.

Speaker 4 (01:28:48):
Okay, well get him on the show, make it happen,
all right, we're gonna be back by the way.

Speaker 5 (01:28:54):
Oh no, I can't remember the joke that I was
about to tell you, and it's so bad that I
really want to tell you the joke. So you're going
to have to just wait a second while I go
back in time and I find the joke that I need,
because I really really want to tell you, guys, this joke,
and it's so bad that I'm going to You're gonna
be like, Mandy, why did you want to Why did
you want to tell us this terrible joke?

Speaker 11 (01:29:14):
Well, I just want to mention that my son went
to the classical Academy back to the first segment about
charter schools, and he did a charter program within the charter,
which was a cottage school program, which was a homeschool hybrid,
and then College Pathways, which was also homeschool hybrid.

Speaker 4 (01:29:29):
So the question the joke is this, what noise does
Jane Bond's doorbell make? Dong ding dong.

Speaker 5 (01:29:40):
I told you it was terrible, it was awful, and
I wanted to tell you anyway, that was like a
dad of the the dad joke because my dad of
the dad.

Speaker 4 (01:29:46):
Okay, so the wine Yogi is with us.

Speaker 5 (01:29:48):
She has done an outstanding blog posting about all of
the things that we're about to talk about. So if
you can't write things down as we talk about these
various wines to be paired with none other than Halloween can.
But before we start with that, I want to make
sure we get in about your holiday class yes at
the Wine Gallery, because they always sell out, and we
actually talked about when she was coming on the show,
and I'm like, you know, it would be nice if

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my listeners actually had a chance to sign up for
one of these classes before they fill up.

Speaker 11 (01:30:14):
So what's happening in this one November seventeenth, So Sunday
afternoon we will be there's two classes, one at one
thirty one at three, and it's holiday wine and food pairings,
So we're going to be covering all your basics, so
not only Thanksgiving, but some you know, Christmas type discussions
as well, and a lot of beautiful fun pairings off
through some ham them in a glaze with a particular
pumpkin butter.

Speaker 5 (01:30:36):
And yeah, I'm just really and you always bring little naches,
so you get to try a little nashes. She gives
you all the recipes and then you try these various wines.
It's super fun. I'll put a link on the blog
to that sign up class.

Speaker 4 (01:30:47):
When is that class?

Speaker 12 (01:30:47):
November seventeenth. It's a Sunday. Yeah, okay, so you've.

Speaker 4 (01:30:50):
Got time to do that.

Speaker 5 (01:30:51):
Now, let's talk about pairing veno with Halloween candy. And
I love this segment for this reason. Everybody thinks that
wine has to be super snob and it doesn't. You
can have the most base candy out there, which we had,
including Smarties, and you compare them and it's really interesting
to see what those candies do with the wine. So

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what are we starting with?

Speaker 6 (01:31:14):
So I just kind of like flashing back.

Speaker 11 (01:31:16):
We started with a kava, just an inexpensive Spanish version
of champagne. So it's a great alternative as you were
going into the holidays we I.

Speaker 4 (01:31:23):
Served at my wedding.

Speaker 6 (01:31:24):
Yeah, and because it is.

Speaker 11 (01:31:26):
Still made in the traditional method, it's not made with
the same standard grapes that.

Speaker 5 (01:31:29):
You would find in Champagna, and it's not made in
the Champagna regions.

Speaker 4 (01:31:34):
So therefore cannot be called it's just sparkling kava. It's
just kava kava.

Speaker 12 (01:31:38):
So if it's kava, it's Spanish, okay.

Speaker 11 (01:31:40):
So but again you're talking about like twelve dollars, right,
you know, the very beautiful wines, but very very affordable.
And so I just kind of started you out with
that to wake up your palette. We tried that with
some Smarties and some Payday because I find, especially when
we've talked about champagne in the past, one of the
classic pairings like if if we were still making popcorn

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balls from our childhood, right, Yeah, a trick or treating,
this would be an amazing pairing with the caramel and
the popcorn with the kava.

Speaker 5 (01:32:09):
So that's why I it's not very sweet. It's this
is not a sweet sparkling wine at all.

Speaker 12 (01:32:15):
It's going to be dry. It's on that brute side.

Speaker 1 (01:32:17):
Uh.

Speaker 11 (01:32:18):
Cava typically is unless you actually find that it says
it's gonna have some residual sugar, and that's very unusual
coming out of Spain. But yes, so you are looking
at something with either salt or high acid in the
case of the Smarties, some chalkiness, and I think kind
of more of that chemical kind of profile that you know,

(01:32:38):
I'm eating cheap, you know, candy, and.

Speaker 5 (01:32:41):
I'm eating candy made like chalcol That's what I'm eating.
And the kava is like, no, you're not, You're having
a delicious item.

Speaker 11 (01:32:46):
And so you know, here I took an inexpensive sparkling
wine and just kind of put it with some inexpense Well,
candy is expensive now at a CUE confirm, but yeah,
so just putting it with your traditional things that you
would find. I would not pair that necessarily with your
chocolates and your richer caramel type things. Maybe salted caramel

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would be okay, but like you're really sweet toffees and
things like that. I would not necessarily go with a
sparkling wine because always remember, sparkling wine and wedding cake
is the worst pairing ever because there's too much sugar,
and so you want to have something that's either going
to have that salt component like a payday does with
the salted peanuts, or that higher acid chalkiness that you

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would get safe from, like limestone chalkiness from the soil
will kind of play off and accentuate that in a
sparkling wine.

Speaker 12 (01:33:39):
Persecca would also be a great, great alternative here, all right.

Speaker 4 (01:33:41):
So then we went to our next one, which was
the chardonnay.

Speaker 11 (01:33:46):
Yes, so that's coming out of Palis, a Carlson vineyard,
and I picked that one just because it's made in.

Speaker 12 (01:33:51):
The French style, so neutral French oak.

Speaker 1 (01:33:54):
Well.

Speaker 4 (01:33:54):
I don't generally like scharnay, but that was pretty dang good,
and I.

Speaker 11 (01:33:57):
Wanted to pair that because shardnay is also kind of
a classic pairing with candy corn.

Speaker 12 (01:34:02):
And I know your thoughts and feelings.

Speaker 5 (01:34:03):
I can't see you just ask what wine pairs best
with candy corn, and my answer is none, none wine.

Speaker 12 (01:34:10):
And I even mentioned candy corn.

Speaker 11 (01:34:11):
My favorite way of having candy corn because it reminds
me of a payday is I like to add in
roasted salted peanuts into my bowl of cancorn. And so
when you shove a handful of that into your mouth
and you're drinking I don't know, sparkling wine or shortening
or something like that, it's like having a pay day
or a better finger. So I offer that for Chuck
since he only got one butter finger.

Speaker 4 (01:34:30):
I know he's very disappointed in that, right now. Then
we moved on to we.

Speaker 12 (01:34:35):
Had the sparkling pet net goervirt tremeanor.

Speaker 5 (01:34:37):
Because that what you're having, is that what you're having
him try with the Three Musketeers, So.

Speaker 12 (01:34:41):
I had you both try that with the Three Musketeers.

Speaker 11 (01:34:44):
It's coming from chill switch wine, ibor and cedar ridge,
and it has a little bit of rs.

Speaker 5 (01:34:49):
It's not as bubbles, sugarsal shugar drop, these fancy salty
you know comments and not explain to the dumb cops here.

Speaker 11 (01:34:55):
It does have like a lot of fruit happening on it.
And so because it has it's just soft effervescence. Because
of its it's a naturally petulant wine, hence the pet
neat method of making it. It's not as bubbly as
sayakava prosecco or just has a little hint of bubble.

Speaker 4 (01:35:13):
Yeah's just a little bit like you're like, oh is
that is that?

Speaker 6 (01:35:15):
Oh? Wait is it? Oh?

Speaker 4 (01:35:16):
Yes it is.

Speaker 11 (01:35:17):
But the gaverts demeanor gaverts means baking spices, and that's
what Goaverts is known for.

Speaker 4 (01:35:22):
It is a very popular.

Speaker 11 (01:35:23):
Thanksgiving table wine just simply because whether it's dry or sparkling,
this is a great wine to have and to consider
for your Thanksgiving table because it has enough acid that
it kind of cuts through the heavy carb components, but
because of the baking spices, it really accentuates things like
mashed potatoes and like a sweet potato casserole.

Speaker 4 (01:35:42):
Well, I really liked it with the Three Musketeers. What'd
you think, Hey, Rod, he's got it in his mouth
right now. I waited till I shoved the Three Musketeers,
and I thought it almost gave a Carvey kind of
flavor to the whole thing.

Speaker 12 (01:35:53):
That Goaverts. That first wine you had, oh.

Speaker 2 (01:35:55):
My gosh, the first one was that the one who
got mad at me about using the word better.

Speaker 4 (01:36:00):
Yes, no, no, that was the second. That was a
red No, that was.

Speaker 7 (01:36:04):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:36:05):
No, the white, the white, Yeah, the white. No, the white.
The white didn't have a oh no, it did in
the order of when I did.

Speaker 11 (01:36:11):
When you had it with the pay Day, you said
you wanted to say it was better. I think you
were kind of even more that it dried the line up,
because it was.

Speaker 2 (01:36:20):
A yeah, it was a Three Musketeers one that did
the enhancing of the sweetness and almost like took away
sweetness from the wine and made the wine more dry. Yes,
it was it was cool.

Speaker 12 (01:36:29):
That was perfect terminology right there.

Speaker 2 (01:36:31):
Did a good job.

Speaker 4 (01:36:33):
We're going to teach you the right words. We're going
to teach you the right words. You're gonna be a
probe by the time this is all said and done.
I enjoyed that pairing. I thought that was really good.

Speaker 11 (01:36:40):
And I was surprised because I would have thought that
the gaverts with the residual sugar would have been a
little bit not your.

Speaker 5 (01:36:47):
Forte, but it gave it a caramel kind of feel
and a kind of overtone that I really enjoyed. I
don't know if I would enjoy that quartz by itself.
With the candy, there was all experience, and.

Speaker 11 (01:36:58):
I definitely think, like if you think stuffy and mashed
potatoes and like your sweet potato type cast roles, especially
when you throw like I like to make mine with pecans,
it's kind of that finish.

Speaker 12 (01:37:09):
Yeah, I think this would be a great wine for
your Thanksgiving to this.

Speaker 5 (01:37:12):
Person, says candy corn pairs with mad Dog twenty twenty,
neither's being consumed for the flavor. I agree, Texter. But
now we continue. Okay, what was the last one? We
got to the red We did have a rose.

Speaker 11 (01:37:24):
The rose had some secondary fermentation happening in the bottle,
which was fun because it kind of made my poor
little clothin over work because of the secondary fermentation, which
means it bubbled, so I had to pull that cort
to let the bubbles die down. But that was a
rose of grenache coming from Restoration Vineyards over in palis
beautiful place to go visit. They only sell their wine there,

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but so we paired that one with the twig spar
that I brought in and just kind of trying it
with different things.

Speaker 6 (01:37:52):
That was a lot of fun.

Speaker 12 (01:37:53):
But your favorite pairing because.

Speaker 11 (01:37:54):
Recei's is the best, one of the best candies out
there with the peanut butter, and we did pair that
with a wine I'm going to be pouring at that
holiday wine and food pairing class in a couple of weeks,
and that is called pairing. And it's a Sarrah. I
think it's coming out of California, but.

Speaker 4 (01:38:11):
We hair is delicious and with the reasons it is.

Speaker 12 (01:38:15):
Oh so you know, Sarrah is known for a lot
of black fruit.

Speaker 11 (01:38:18):
If you're getting charaz coming out of Australia or the
charras coming out of South Africa. They're kind of known
for the BlackBerry jam. Like the way that they make
that way nice a lot. It really intensifies the jam notes.
But this one is a much more subtle. It's like
it's like you're smelling the rat the blackberries kind of

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cooking before you make the jam, and like maybe if
you didn't add as much sugar into it, because it
does not intensive, it doesn't have that super intense jam note.

Speaker 12 (01:38:46):
It has just the BlackBerry fruit kind of note, which
reminds me of PB and J.

Speaker 5 (01:38:51):
Yeah, what I love about this entire exercise is just
this when you take a minute, when you just take
a hot minute, and you cut that ches peanut butter
cup in half so you can do it twice, and
you have a sip of wine, and then you take
the candy and then you have a sip of wine again, and.

Speaker 4 (01:39:07):
You're really intentional about it. It's like an event in
your mouth. Okay.

Speaker 5 (01:39:12):
It's just really cool to see how all of these
different things work together. And if Crystal hasn't talked about
your favorite candy, then get your favorite candy and experiment,
see what works and see what doesn't work for you.
You'll be really really surprised, and you convinced me after
you told me popcorn and.

Speaker 4 (01:39:30):
Champagne go together.

Speaker 5 (01:39:32):
And now when I have champagne, I am inevitably having
some kind of popcorn available to me.

Speaker 11 (01:39:37):
And it is one of the things I like to
do when I do like a wine and yoga carrying
workshop together is talk about the mindfulness to notice what
you're feeling on your palette, to notice what you're smelling,
to notice what happens after there's nothing left in your.

Speaker 4 (01:39:51):
Mouth and what am I still tasting?

Speaker 11 (01:39:53):
What are the residuals kind of left over the discussions
about I think yesterday about being super smellers, super stro
being highly sensitive to smell and taste.

Speaker 12 (01:40:02):
I mean, those are things that you can you can train,
just like.

Speaker 11 (01:40:05):
Anything any muscle, you can work on it and improve
on it just by experimenting. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't,
and you just jot a note of that was terrible
and this was awesome.

Speaker 6 (01:40:17):
I will.

Speaker 5 (01:40:18):
I have a question, and I think there's a couple
different ways to approach this answer rather than head on,
and one of them is, manny need to know the
best twist off type wines for Thanksgiving?

Speaker 4 (01:40:28):
Twist off top wines twist.

Speaker 5 (01:40:30):
Offs have come so far that it really depends on
how much you want to spend because they're not cheap.
So back in the day, if you got screw screw
top wine were you were getting cheap wine. Now I
just bought a bottle of wine that was thirty five
dollars for a friend as a gift, and it was
a screw top wine.

Speaker 11 (01:40:48):
So it depends on where they're coming from, because if
they're coming from, particularly Australia and New Zealand, they're probably
all going to be the screw cap. I could certainly
recommend the Gooverts Tremeiner Alberino Dry Fleeing from the Storm Cellar,
which is over in a Hotchkiss, Peonia, and you.

Speaker 4 (01:41:04):
Buy them on the front range.

Speaker 6 (01:41:05):
Yes, you can do.

Speaker 11 (01:41:06):
They do distribute over here, especially in the Denver area.
In fact, they're doing a club drop off tomorrow. They
will also ship, so you can go onto their website
and order and they'll ship it to you as well.

Speaker 4 (01:41:17):
Let's do this in the last three minutes.

Speaker 5 (01:41:19):
Okay, everybody's got the kind of traditional Thanksgiving table. If
you were going to have people coming over and you
wanted to provide a little bit of variety, just in
case you covered everybody's pallets, what for varieties of wine
would you look for based on making sure you have
something for everybody at your table.

Speaker 11 (01:41:37):
So I would often include a bubble, and I would
probably go with something very very approachable, like a prosecco,
because it is a celebratory type thing. It depends on
what time of day, if you're doing a brunch kind
of thing.

Speaker 4 (01:41:47):
And y'all, the Coseco from Carboy is just, oh, it
is lovely good.

Speaker 12 (01:41:53):
So I like to offer a bubble because some people.

Speaker 11 (01:41:56):
That's what they get into and it is lighter often
and you know, really does help with digestion.

Speaker 12 (01:42:01):
I look for more acidic.

Speaker 11 (01:42:02):
Wines, so you know that's why I'm Grinnervelt Liner good
Vert Streminer would be my other white.

Speaker 12 (01:42:07):
At the class that I'm teaching, we're gonna be pouring.

Speaker 11 (01:42:09):
A beautiful Alberino because it's got some pop in acidity
that I'm gonna pair with a corn chowder that I
think is gonna be absolutely fantastic and a beautiful pairing.

Speaker 12 (01:42:17):
Then I would if I'm looking at reds, let's say.

Speaker 11 (01:42:20):
I want to provide a red I'm gonna go with
a lighter red probably pino no pino noir is not
going to necessarily overpower if you're having roasted turkey, and
it is a great pairing with duck or ham. It
is just you know you again, you want something with
some nice acidity and isn't a tannin bomb because you've
got a lot of carbs happening on that table. So
you want something that triggers digestion. And then something like

(01:42:40):
this Sarah here again, I would avoid your big bold
just simply because those are going to overwhelm your traditional
turkey feast. Now, if you are doing something that's a
little bit more unique of friends giving, and.

Speaker 12 (01:42:55):
Maybe you are doing roast beast of some kind of
beef or game.

Speaker 11 (01:43:00):
Then that's when you can maybe delve a little bit
deeper and offer something for your bigger red wine drinkers.
But if you get a quality pein on a war
gammy is another beautiful.

Speaker 4 (01:43:10):
Things for all we had today. I mean, that's very
very unobtrusive, and I'm pouring.

Speaker 12 (01:43:15):
That at that class if you want to come and
try it, and it is, that's.

Speaker 11 (01:43:18):
Why we're pouring it because it's super approachable, right, bojelais
Nouveaux is gamey that's gone through carbonic maceerration.

Speaker 12 (01:43:24):
It's released the week before Thanksgiving is.

Speaker 4 (01:43:27):
A big celebration you drink.

Speaker 5 (01:43:29):
Okay, So, like, I don't even know how many years ago,
maybe twenty eighteen, I bought an auction at a at
a charity auction, I bought a prize and it came
with a giant bottle of Boujelais Nouveaux. Am I should
I just pour it out? You probably are at its end?

Speaker 11 (01:43:45):
Yeah, I mean twenty twenty one to me is kind
of like right now the limit that I will go
back for neu Veaux. Now, if it's Boujelat Village and
it doesn't have that word neu Veaux anywhere in it,
you're probably fine because it's going to be made in
a more traditional method and it's going to hold off.

Speaker 5 (01:43:59):
I just keep forgetting that I have it. It's just
sitting downstairs. I'm like, what am I gonna do with
this giant bottle one?

Speaker 4 (01:44:03):
Anyway?

Speaker 6 (01:44:04):
But Beaujelais. So that's the gammey.

Speaker 11 (01:44:06):
Great. You can find great gammey coming from Oregon as well,
if you want to, you know, stick with more of
the US. If that's a team that you're doing.

Speaker 4 (01:44:13):
Love the Willamette Valley, h wyam it, will lamb it, that's.

Speaker 6 (01:44:17):
Will lamb it, damn it.

Speaker 4 (01:44:18):
That's all you know, how God announce it.

Speaker 12 (01:44:20):
It's not Willamette.

Speaker 4 (01:44:20):
Well, I love will Lammett damn it.

Speaker 2 (01:44:22):
I love it all.

Speaker 4 (01:44:23):
So why you gear you in?

Speaker 7 (01:44:25):
You in for?

Speaker 6 (01:44:26):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (01:44:26):
All right, here we go. Now it's time for the
most exciting segment on the radio of its kind in
the world of the day. All right, what is our word?

Speaker 2 (01:44:40):
Hello? Dad, Joe? Hello, Hello, Hell?

Speaker 6 (01:44:43):
Go ahead?

Speaker 2 (01:44:45):
Why even the day after Halloween we're doing one more?
Why do witches where name tags? Um? I don't know
so they can tell which witch is which? Oh my goodness, A.

Speaker 4 (01:45:00):
Little bit pens frustrate. All right, well, and usually it's
usually in there, but it's not in there. So what
is our word of the day?

Speaker 2 (01:45:11):
Please?

Speaker 4 (01:45:11):
I just have to write down the word of.

Speaker 6 (01:45:14):
Propinquity.

Speaker 4 (01:45:15):
Pro propinquity r O P I N What qu I believe?

Speaker 1 (01:45:22):
That is?

Speaker 11 (01:45:23):
When your pinkies are bent at an angle like my
grandmother's work.

Speaker 4 (01:45:30):
That's not it, I'm sure, but piquity is the curve propinquity.

Speaker 5 (01:45:33):
I'm going to say it is the tendency to put
one's foot in one's mouth.

Speaker 2 (01:45:38):
Propinquity It refers to nearness in place or time, making
him making it a synonym of proximity.

Speaker 5 (01:45:46):
Okay, that seems like a big word for proximity. I'm
just going to go with proximity on that one. Okay,
Crystal Mandy? What is our jeopardy category? U?

Speaker 4 (01:45:57):
Gather?

Speaker 6 (01:45:58):
Sorry?

Speaker 4 (01:45:58):
It's Friday?

Speaker 5 (01:45:59):
How long we and the election is three days away?
In what century was the Parsonon built? I should know
this because I've been there.

Speaker 2 (01:46:07):
Not a clue.

Speaker 4 (01:46:09):
Just guess a century an old?

Speaker 2 (01:46:11):
Seventeen old? No, No, I don't.

Speaker 12 (01:46:16):
I'm gonna go with fifth, correct it fifth century BC.

Speaker 5 (01:46:21):
The temple was part of a large scale rebuilding program
led by the statesman Pericles after the acropolis was sacked
during the Greco Persian Wars.

Speaker 4 (01:46:29):
Now there's the thing you know?

Speaker 3 (01:46:30):
Now?

Speaker 4 (01:46:31):
All right? What is our jeopardy category? Please?

Speaker 2 (01:46:34):
Face book? Every answer has the word face.

Speaker 5 (01:46:38):
Today with my shots great players Roskominsky? So what what
is our What is our Facebook?

Speaker 2 (01:46:47):
Every answer has the word face. Got it to mar
or spoil the appearance of something?

Speaker 4 (01:46:52):
Andy? What is deface.

Speaker 2 (01:46:55):
A style of type with thick heavy lines to draw
as I think writing style kind I know?

Speaker 4 (01:47:05):
Mandy, what is boldface?

Speaker 2 (01:47:08):
JFK and other newsmakers have often been seen.

Speaker 4 (01:47:11):
On ft N Mandy, what is face? Thevation correct?

Speaker 2 (01:47:15):
To connect a peripheral machine with a computer, Mandy, what
is interface? Oh my correct? And finally, this market maneuver
used by military formation can also mean.

Speaker 12 (01:47:27):
Chris, Chris, what is about faces.

Speaker 6 (01:47:30):
On the board?

Speaker 5 (01:47:32):
All right, all right, we're gonna make room because KABEI
Sports is on location right now. They are out and
the Verizon store in Littleton. They're gonna be where they
Let me just pretend I did that right, Okay, here
we go. They're gonna be with a bunch of Broncos
to your leaders. They get some former Broncos players, and
more importantly, you can win tickets to a Broncos game.
You just need to head out to see them, and

(01:47:53):
they're gonna be there.

Speaker 6 (01:47:54):
Are they there?

Speaker 2 (01:47:55):
Now?

Speaker 6 (01:47:55):
Are they there?

Speaker 4 (01:47:55):
Are they hooked up?

Speaker 1 (01:47:56):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (01:47:56):
Yeah? Yeah?

Speaker 4 (01:47:57):
Let me talk to Ryan. Ryan's there.

Speaker 5 (01:47:59):
Nobody else is paying attention? Nobody else, No, they're not
paying attention. They're out there buying new phones, is what's happening.
We'll be back on Monday. Everybody, have a wonderful and
safe weekend. Enjoy yourselves because I can't afford to lose
any listeners.

Speaker 4 (01:48:12):
But don't die. That's really all you can do. And
I just want to say this to you guys.

Speaker 10 (01:48:16):
One more day before the election on the show. One
one more day, one day, we're almost done.

Speaker 4 (01:48:29):
Turn in your ballots and we'll be back on Monday.