11-14-25 FULL SHOW - A Fort Lewis Prof Hates Free Speech, And Tourney OF THE DAY!

A Fort Lewis Professor shows his true colors over Turning Point USA coming to campus, how to move overseas, and Tournament OF THE DAY! 

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
The Mandy Connell Show is sponsored by Bell and Pollock
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Speaker 2 (00:05):
No, it's Mandy connellyn on KOAM ninety four one FM.

Speaker 3 (00:15):
Guys, Way say the Noisy US three by Donald keeping
your sad Day.

Speaker 4 (00:26):
Welcome, Welcome, Welcome to a Friday edition of the show altogether.

Speaker 2 (00:30):
Now please come up.

Speaker 4 (00:44):
Together. I'm Mandy Connell and he Anthony Rodriguez. We'll take
you right up until three p m. Wn KOA Sports
will take over. But we have some exciting doings going
on today. It's time for tournament. Oh they and it's
going to be an exciting when we've already chosen our
three finalists, they will be coming into the studio. Guys,

(01:05):
if you're listening, I did not make cookies. Oh I
decided to sit down and uh, you know, come up
with real solutions to healthcare instead.

Speaker 5 (01:13):
I hope you understand. Patrick, Jerry and Jack will be
very disappointed.

Speaker 4 (01:17):
I know, but they're coming in and they're gonna play
out the day. And can we tell everybody what that
prize is now?

Speaker 5 (01:21):
Wait for it?

Speaker 4 (01:22):
I mean, and the prize for today's Tournament of the
Day is a pair of tickets two Sundays Broncos Chiefs
banger and the tickets to the VIP tailbait pot.

Speaker 6 (01:40):
No.

Speaker 4 (01:41):
Uh, just to let you guys know the thinking here
of us not telling you what that prize was. I
really wanted people who love of the Day. I'm just saying,
what are you calling someone?

Speaker 7 (01:50):
Oh?

Speaker 4 (01:51):
Ayrod gives me the hold on finger and then he
picks up the phone. I'm like, are you just calling
them right now? And let him know there's no cookies.
Hope you guys aren't upset, But somebody's to win tickets
to uh Sunday's Broncos Chiefs game and tickets to the
VIP tailgate. It's going to be amazing. But first let's
do the blog, because oh my goodness, gracious, it's already
shaping up to be a wild Friday and we haven't

(02:12):
even started yet. Find the blog by going to mandy'sblog
dot com. That's mandy'sblog dot com. In the latest post section,
looks for the headline that says eleven fourteen twenty five
blog a fort Lewis prof hates free speech and Journey
of the Day.

Speaker 5 (02:32):
I go in office South American all with ships and
clippas and say that's going to press Flint.

Speaker 4 (02:38):
Today on the blog want to move Overseas, It's time
for a tournament of the day, my solutions for the
healthcare system. It's an asked Me anything sort of day.
This Fort Lewis College professor is a total a hole.
This fight between Polis and DeSantis was fine. Denver Public
Schools board is absurd again. Mark Kisled doesn't love the

(02:59):
deep to hire Minnesota Somalis are committing massive amounts of fraud.
Mayor Mike thinks teachers want to live next to attics. Scrolling,
are you one of those turkey trot maniacs? Russia's first
AI robot isn't quite ready for prime time. Matt Gates
is a discussing scumbag. Young Communists are often the losers

(03:20):
in well to do families. Scrolling is corruption in gulfing Zelinsky.
Your hotel room may not be cancelable. What industry did?
COVID shutdown hurt the most. Balancing on one foot is
a sign of better health, but no one just calls it.
Mac please buy me this for Christmas, Nate Mayor before
the Christmas movie? But why not a ninth though? Jack

(03:43):
Corrigan talks to pauld Pedesto Chick fil A does it again?
Should the chef spot us some points? Those are the
headlines on the blog at mandy'sblog dot.

Speaker 2 (03:53):
Com tick tech too, what?

Speaker 5 (04:00):
Thank you? Nancy?

Speaker 4 (04:02):
Thank you?

Speaker 1 (04:02):
Oh?

Speaker 4 (04:03):
I saw the saddest Nancy Pelosi video a rod. She
was giving a press conference on the steps of the Capitol.
I don't even know what she was giving a press
conference on. She made her little statement and then said,
does anybody have any questions?

Speaker 8 (04:15):
Oh?

Speaker 5 (04:15):
No, one had questions, No one, no one. Maybe she
gave that good No, that's not how it works. Maybe
she gave tech two.

Speaker 4 (04:27):
I think they showed up out of just deference to
who she used to be. But now she's not even
running again. She's not in leadership. She's just an old
lady in Congress. And unfortunately there were four hundred and
thirty five mostly old people to choose from in Congress.
So she's not a novelty.

Speaker 5 (04:44):
Not as staying with Nancy's retirement, sorry, yep.

Speaker 4 (04:49):
I wish her well. I hope she enjoys her retirement.
Can I just want to have a moment and we're
going to get into the blog and all kinds of
stuff on the blog today, but I got to tell you,
guys about a lovely lady named Bernadette. And Bernadette, I
hope you're listening, because Bernadette every so often sends me
little notes, little cards, you know, with little stuff in them,

(05:10):
little things she thinks I might find interesting, and I
just find them absolutely delightful. Bernadette is eighty years old,
and yet she still finds time to go to the
library to make copies of an email about candy corn
for me in the effort to sway me to become
a candy corn lover instead of a candy corn hater.
But I just can't tell you. This is one of

(05:32):
those things about my job that most people wouldn't necessarily
think if you asked me Andy Connall what she was
most grateful for in her job. And I have a
lot to be grateful for in this job. It's afforded
me some really amazing opportunities. But it's stuff like this
from Bernadette that this is what I find the most gratifying,
And this is what I'm the most grateful for that

(05:53):
someone listens to this show and enjoys it enough that
she wants to share little bright spots in her day
with me, and I just I don't don't please, don't
take this as Mandy once mail. That's not it at all.
That's I'm not soliciting more male but but I'm just
saying it's these little things. I just want you guys
to know. It's like when I meet someone and they

(06:14):
just recite back the details of the show to me.
It just it means a lot that you guys are
out there listening, and I guess I was feeling, uh,
you know, a little more gratitude than normal. Okay, So
I have a weird question to ask you guys. To
ask me anything Friday. But I'm going to ask you
guys something and you can text us on the Common
Spirit Health text line at five sixty six nine. Oh So,

(06:36):
the last couple of days, the reason we saw the
Aurora borealis here in Colorado was there was a really
big geomagnetic storm for a couple of days. So I
woke up yesterday morning and the phrase woke up on
the wrong side of the bed was was perfectly appropriate,
just perfectly appropriate, because I woke up grumpy, and if

(06:58):
you know me, if anybody who knows me personally can
attest I am rarely, if ever grumpy, and if I'm grumpy,
it's for short spurts about something specific, right, and then
I get over it. I just I'm not one of
those people that stays mad about things that I can't control,
you know, very stoic that way. But I'm mostly an uppy.
I was grumpy all day yesterday for no reason, and

(07:20):
Chuck I adore my husband. He just was like, cause
I flied out told him in the morning. I'm like, look,
I'm grumpy. I have no idea why I am. Just
I'm grumpy. I'm feeling out of sorts. That is how
I feel. It, don't feel like myself. And he was
the sweetest thing all day long, like, could not have
been better. But I still last night, I'm laying in bed,
I'm just like, I still feel kind of grumpy and

(07:42):
out of sorts. And then I was thinking about it.
I was like, I wonder if a gem magnetic storm
can affect someone's mood, because there was just no there's
nothing for me to be grumpy about, and that's just
really out of character for me to be grumpy that long.
So I looked it up and indeed, your mood can
be adversely affected by a geomagnetic storm. Who knew, Well,

(08:06):
now I do, and I woke up today and I
feel a million times better. So I either convinced myself
that it was the geomagnetic storm, and therefore, since the
storm is over, I am now in a better mood,
which is fine with me. Whatever it takes, right or
I'm wondering if any of you were like grumpy or
out of sorts the last couple of days. I'm just curious.

(08:27):
I'm not saying we all are. I'm just I'm throwing
this against the wall. We'll just see if it stinks,
not stinks sticks ah the wine yogi. So I've got
a thing on the blog for if you're one of
those turkey trot people. First of all, I'm not gonna
lie when I say I'm a little bit jealous of

(08:47):
the people that want to get up on Thanksgiving morning
and go for a turkey trot. I'm just a smidge
jealous that I'm not that motivated, but I'd rather get
up on Thanksgiving morning and have a cinnamon roll.

Speaker 5 (08:57):
Okay.

Speaker 4 (08:59):
That being so, there are a ton of turkey trots,
and I have a list on the blog, and the
wan Yuki just sends me this, I'm knocking out an
orange theory class before Thanksgiving. You're a small lady, but
I'll punch you. I'm just saying this text are said weird.
I felt the same way yesterday. That's what I'm saying.
It was just I'm just out of sorts. So that's
the thing to think about.

Speaker 2 (09:19):
Now.

Speaker 4 (09:19):
We got a couple of things coming up today on
the show, one of which is Tournaments of the Day,
which we'll be doing in the two thirty segment. And
somebody asked on the text line a Rod, what if
you beat them all, Mandy? And that's what I asked
Arod earlier. But he has confidence that one of them
is gonna beat me.

Speaker 8 (09:37):
Yes.

Speaker 5 (09:38):
Yeah, they need to get only a few points. Mind you,
we're doing it for the whole segment for a reason.

Speaker 4 (09:44):
In just a case, it takes three times the number
of correct answers no, no to be all of them.
I would have to get three because I have to
beat all of them the same amount of times.

Speaker 5 (09:53):
Well, they're gonna have to. We're gonna have to just
keep going. Yeah, you, Mandy, I hate to break it
to you. You will lose it point today because we'll
have to go until you lose to one of our contestants.
And if they right now, we have a certain amount
of answers they have to get right. And if they
don't get to that point and we're like ten fifty
minutes in, we're gonna decrease them out that they have

(10:14):
to get. We're gonna go, Okay, well we had this
number in mind. God's gonna game the system now, so
sidey beats me. I have the system right.

Speaker 4 (10:22):
They are very flexible here on the of the day turn.

Speaker 5 (10:25):
It is fool proof. Let's say you have to beat
Mandy like ten times. Well, if we're ten minutes in
and someone has two points, we're gonna cut that number
down on the fly. Yeah, I'm ready and prepared for anything.

Speaker 4 (10:37):
Okay, somebody's gonna win some tickets to see the Broncos
and Chiefs on Sunday and then they will like maybe
plaster to the VIP tailgate because of how stressful this was.
There you go, there, you go, Mandy. I'm a fifty
three year old male. I'm always cranky. You need to
go to get some hormone replacement. There, mister at Regan
and Revolution, You'll feel a million times.

Speaker 5 (10:56):
Betterrandy, here's a plot twist real quick. And I'm not
just throwing this idea out because I'm really generous and
I want our winner.

Speaker 7 (11:03):
To do this.

Speaker 5 (11:04):
With the VIP tailgate, they get two tickets. If they
don't have a friend significant other. What if they invite
one of the other finalists who knows.

Speaker 2 (11:12):
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (11:12):
You can make new friends today, fantastic, We'll find out
so good.

Speaker 5 (11:18):
I want to tell people what they can do that
aren't coming to play out the day.

Speaker 4 (11:21):
Uh, this is exciting. For the first time ever, We're
giving you a chance to yell, yell at a rod
of the wait in the world, in the world, and
you do it via the talkback. If you don't know
how to use the talkback, it's super easy. Open up
your iHeartRadio app, open up our show KOA right now,
stream it and then hit the little microphone button in

(11:43):
the bottom right of your phone. You have thirty seconds.
You won't need it. But what do they need to
give with their in the world?

Speaker 1 (11:49):
Just that?

Speaker 8 (11:50):
Just that?

Speaker 4 (11:50):
How do we Oh, we're just gonna play and we're
not gonna give all right.

Speaker 5 (11:53):
Yeah, yeah, we just want to hear your best impresion
because I'm sure you all yell it together. Coy all
know you all do. So let's get some points for creativity.
Let's hear your loudest and coolest in the way who it'll.

Speaker 4 (12:05):
Be fantastic will on the show anyway. So somebody just
asked on the text line what our programming is on
Thanksgiving in the day after, And I'm looking right now
to see see you basketball. We don't know when that
is at eleven thirty, and then some kind of iHeart
talk stuff. Yeah, it's all canned stuff. Sorry, I wish

(12:28):
I had better news. I will not be here. I'm
taking that whole week off. Mandy number one, don't do
a turkey trot. But do you know what's better after
you're all fat and happy? There's a five K on
Saturday called the Tap and Trot. No, that's that's guys.
I'm a fifty six year old woman who finally got
my knees fixed ten years ago. I'm not really in
the mood to start running now. I ran some when

(12:50):
I was younger. I never liked it. You know that
whole Runners high. That thing is a lie, that is
a complete fabrication. Now what do I enjoy? I love
walking and ask my husband faster than many people jog.
But no, I have no desire to run anywhere anywhere. Mandy.
I have a chronic health condition and had a terrible

(13:13):
episode after listening to your show and weather Wednesday talking
about magnetic storms. I guarantee that had something to do
with it. The same thing happens with barometric pressure. When
I had regular migraines when I was younger. I don't
get them anymore. Thank god, the drop in barometric pressure
would put me out with a migraine. I mean instantly.
This person said transcrering to a magnetic stimulation is a

(13:35):
treatment for mental disorders, i e. Depression, it is, Mandy.
I have a pet sitting and dog walking business. The
dogs went crazy during the geomagnetic storm. Great, I'm on
the same frequency as a dog, Mandy. I don't get
to listen as much as I used to anymore. I
want to get your thoughts on the whole White House,
ballroom and Super Bowl halftime show. As a matter of fact,

(13:57):
I was just gonna make today's entire show about bad Bunny,
but then I was like, no, anyway. Several of you
are saying possibly the geomagnetic stuff made me inexplicably sad
yesterday much better today. This one says Mandy. It's interesting
you bring up the northern lights. I slept better that

(14:17):
night than I have in a long time, and I
wonder if I was affected by that. See here's the thing,
you guys like people will write that off as cuckoo. Right,
they'll know this is stupid whatever. Well, when you think
about how interconnected the Moon controls the tides, right, I mean,
there's big things that happen in between what happens in
space and what happens on Earth. And I think it's

(14:39):
ridiculous to assume that the pull of the Moon could
affect the oceans, but a geomagnetic storm could not affect
us because we're fundamentally electrical beings, right, I mean, I'm
just saying Mandy about being cranky. Please don't ask my
husband if he thinks I've been cranky. Er Yeah, Ralph

(14:59):
says that you geomagnetic storms are caused by two X
class solar flares. The climate cultists continue their idiocy about
the Sun's influence on the Earth. The idea that a
geomagnetic storm affected your body isn't far fetched. My own
nervous system has had some serious irritation problems in my
lower spine. I hadn't thought of the connection, but it
might make sense as I hadn't done anything to affect it.

(15:20):
Ticks would be nice, but hard stadium seats hold no
allure for me. Yeah, I don't love Mandy fifty three
year old male here with bad knees. The last time
I ran was to the bathroom. There you go, Mandy.
I'm self employed and one of the people affected by
a quadrupling of my health insurance premium on the marketplace,

(15:41):
and ninety nine percent certain I'm going to go with
Pinnacle Direct Primary Care. Wondering if you or any Mandylorians
have had any experience of successfully using the medical health
share programs. That's my hesitancy in going to the direct
care model. I have not personally experienced it, but I
have multi friends who use the direct primary care and

(16:03):
medical health share model, and only one of them has
had an illness or situation that was large enough to
really need to tap into the med share because she
had to be hospitalized for three days and she has
had no issues whatsoever. Now, the thing about the medshare
is is that it is incumbent well I don't want

(16:24):
to get I don't want to get too many details.
Call Travis at Pinnacle Advanced Primary Care. And if your
small business is getting crushed right now, call Travis at
Advanced Primary Care now coming up at one o'clock today.
If you've ever thought about living overseas, or if you've
ever thought what would I need to do to get

(16:44):
dual residency or dual citizenship, we got a guess for
you now, Not that I want to move to Hungary,
but because I am one eighth Hungarian. Wait one, that's
half yeah, I'm won eighth Hungarian. I qualify for citizenship
and Hungry, but I have to learn the language. I

(17:05):
don't know if you guys have ever heard Hungarian or
seen it. It is the ultimate language where the first
thing you think is I'd liked to buy a vowel.
It's super hard to learn. But I think it's interesting
that Americans, more Americans than ever before to my knowledge,
are not necessarily looking to just pick up roots and go,

(17:25):
but they're looking to hedge their bets. But we're going
to talk to a woman from a company who helps
people move overseas and get residency and second citizenship via investment.
We're going to find out about that. So that's coming
up at one o'clock. Mandy, my science teacher said it best.
We're just copper tops on legs.

Speaker 5 (17:43):
Oh.

Speaker 2 (17:43):
I love that.

Speaker 4 (17:45):
I'm going to use that now, Mandy. Nursing home patients
are affected by the full moon, and I saw that
firsthand when I was delivering meds to nursing homes. I
definitely believe that the full moon and solar flares can
affect people, just like the weather. Sometimes I wake up cranky,
but I usually let her sleep in. That's a good one.

Speaker 5 (18:05):
A ride.

Speaker 4 (18:05):
You gotta keep that. You gotta put that in the
old dad joke, Mandy. I'm sixty one and it worked.
They talk about how I am difficult to keep up with.
Also hate running. I walk crazy fast. My husband once
told me, he goes, I wish you'd been my drill
surgeon because we would have gotten to wherever we were
going twice as fast and I would have enjoyed watching

(18:26):
us get there. That's what he said. Mandy asked me
anything Friday, So what's better dealing with the dirty old man.
We're dealing with the dirty legs in the chair before you.
They both have their good qualities, but they both aren't
rosso who.

Speaker 2 (18:48):
In the world.

Speaker 4 (18:53):
In who Aroon and I both on the brink, are like,
why didn't we do this before? Why did we not
make this a thing started? Probably we dropped the ball
on that one because you guys are already delivering.

Speaker 5 (19:06):
But just like our three contestants, we're going to be
here in an hour and a half, we're making all
of you part of our of the day today.

Speaker 4 (19:13):
Yep, a couple of text messages on Ask Me Anything Day,
and I'm going to get into the blog. I yesterday
sat down and hammered out free market solutions that I
think can help our health system now, and I want
to go through those a little bit later. I know
it's nerdy and it's Friday, but I really think that

(19:34):
this is a great starting point for a conversation. This
texter said, Mandy, I thought you were half Hungarian. What
are your other nationalities for the purpose of getting citizenship
in Hungary? My grandparents on my mom's side, my grandmother
was born in Hungary. My grandfather, I found out fairly recently,
was actually born here. His parents immigrated from Hungary and

(19:57):
he was born here. Doesn't count from Hungarian government, but
I mean it's still it's Hungarian. And then on my
dad's side, he's like a mutt. He's Scotch Irish, you know, French,
like basically white European. Just wherever the white Europeans are,
that's them. So that's where that is Manby. I really
enjoyed the conversation with the Citycast guy, which was a

(20:18):
good conversation because I think he has left wing. Absolutely
he is left wing. We had a great conversation and
as a matter of fact, I'm gonna hold him too,
and I'm gonna make him let me on his show.
He sent me a thank you text this morning because
a lot of you went and read the article on
fifty two eighty magazine, which we appreciate, and he said,
I'm thinking about topics to talk to you about on Citycast.

(20:38):
I was like, oh, I'm an authority on everything. I
can talk about anything. And I was only partly kidding,
and you know me, I'm just you know, I'm modest
if nothing. Now, a couple other things on the blog
that I want to get to. I have a video
of a Fort Lewis College professor. His name is David Kozak.

(20:58):
He is a professor emeritus, to be clear from the
Anthropology Department for emeritus is the title used when someone
leaves an office and the school wants to honor them
by not just saying audios, you know, m effort, you
can go. They want they give them this title that
doesn't really mean anything except, hey, thank you for being

(21:21):
a professor for so long. We're going to let you
keep your title and give you this emeritus thing. He's
one of those, and at the meeting where Fort Lewis
College's student government reversed their decision in very dramatic fashion
to allow a Turning Point USA chapter to form on
their campus, he was there and very unhappy about it.

(21:42):
Now this morning, a Rod, you would have been somewhat
proud of me this morning. I tried to record this
and I was going to put beeps in, but there
were so many places I would have had to beep
that I was like, ah care that much. People can
go to the blog and watch it if they want to.
But he's yelling at people who were part of the
group that's forming the Turning Point USA chapter, and he's like,

(22:04):
Nazis having fashist Nazi fascist you fascist Nazis I mean,
it's just like the most predictable thing, and they see
no irony, none whatsoever in trying to shut down speech
they disagree with. That doesn't feel fascist to them at all.

Speaker 5 (22:22):
Is he still employed.

Speaker 4 (22:23):
He's I think he's retired, because that's where the emeritus
title comes from. He's a professor emeritus. I reached out
to him this morning to ask for an interview. He
politely declined, oh he did respond, Yes, he did.

Speaker 5 (22:33):
Well, he just light of him.

Speaker 4 (22:34):
Yeah, well, let me I'll pull it up right here
and tell you what he said. So I sent and
I said, good morning, professor Kozak, I'd love the chance
to speak with you about your grievances with the Turning
Point USA, as evidenced by the video of you calling
students students organizing it nazis. My show is live to
noon three. Well, I've seen my producer here. I hope
we can make this happen in the name of free speech.

(22:56):
He sends back, good morning, thank you for the invitation.
Gets too much exposure as it is, and I am
not interested in giving it more. FYI I was yelling
at adults unaffiliated with the college, not the students. In
response to one of them accosting a Native student, and
I sent back, okay, but as it sure doesn't look
that way in the video. I appreciate the response.

Speaker 5 (23:17):
How polite for someone that teaches young people or taught
young people. What a polite response for someone that is
a stain on the armac.

Speaker 4 (23:24):
But isn't it isn't it interesting that he doesn't view
adult students as adults. He views them as students.

Speaker 5 (23:31):
But they're not adults students period. That guy taught people.

Speaker 4 (23:34):
Well, yeah, I mean there's no fort Lewis College is
notoriously liberal. I mean it's between like I would say,
and I'd like your input on this, Texters, because many
of you have been here a lot longer than I have.
But I think in terms of the universities or colleges
in the state of Colorado that are the most liberal
across the board, I think that Fort Lewis is going

(23:55):
to be up there.

Speaker 5 (23:56):
But I think crazy, like to say, the best teachers,
you don't know what the hell they're exactly taught people.

Speaker 4 (24:04):
Well, how do you think conservative students were treated in
his classroom? That's the thing that's honestly the thing is,
how are students who dare to believe in conservative values
treated in the classrooms of teachers like this. And what's
interesting is, you know what, if you think Turning Point
USA is an awful organization, then counterpoint their arguments. I

(24:27):
was not a big watcher of Charlie Kirk before he died.
We've talked about this, but man, have I seen a
ton of video of him since, way more than I
would have ever seen normally since his assassination, and I
have still yet to see in context any of the
hate or racism or misogyny or whatever people say about him.

(24:48):
When you see it all in context, it all makes sense.
You may disagree with it, but the logic is there,
but they don't care. They don't care about that. They
just want to prevent you from hearing anything that they
disagree with. Because, in all honesty, and I would say
this to someone on the right who is trying to
censor someone on the left, if you can't defend your

(25:10):
positions without censoring someone who doesn't share them, then how
good are they? How rational?

Speaker 5 (25:18):
How logical?

Speaker 4 (25:19):
How defensible are they? Because in my mind, I can
defend pretty much all of my positions. I can defend
some better than others. I can give you a rational
reason why I feel that way. I don't need to
shut someone down who disagrees with me. I really don't.
If you want to have a civil, wonderful conversation, let's
do it. Let's dig in like we did with Paul

(25:42):
Crowley from Citycast, who was on the show yesterday. I'm sorry, Mandy,
but you shouldn't be elevating liberal voices in Colorado on
your show, in a state that's completely ruined by liberals.
That is exactly what I was just saying. Well, I mean,
but I can explain poll Croley or anyone else on
the left why I feel the way I do about homelessness,

(26:05):
about the healthcare system, about taxation, about all of these
different issues that people disagree on. I can tell you
why I feel the way I do, and I hope
I do it in a compelling enough way that at
least I'd give you pause to have a better understanding
of where I'm coming from. You know, Greg Gettfeld was
just interviewed and he said something, and I've said it before.
I have said this so many times, and a lot

(26:27):
of people on the right have used a similar sort
of you know, adage, and that is I think they're wrong.
They think I'm evil, and that's the disconnect, and the
only way to get over that is to talk to
people that we disagree with. Charlie Kirk was one hundred
percent right about that. Colorado College is right up there too.

Speaker 2 (26:44):
Yes it is.

Speaker 4 (26:47):
The Colorado College in Colorado Springs is insane. Yes, I
went to Fort Lewis, as this Texter. A lot of
the libtards are. They're back, even in twenty ten when
I graduated. We don't need to call names. You can
just call them liberal. Mandy's so proud to be a
Fort Lewis alumni insert sarcasm. At least I met my
husband there. If you are a fort Lewis grad, I

(27:10):
certainly hope and they ask you for money, you point
this out as an example of why you're going to
say no, I have.

Speaker 5 (27:15):
What might be my favorite so far. Oh please let
me hear, because this person clearly listens to a certain part.

Speaker 2 (27:20):
Of the show.

Speaker 5 (27:21):
Here we go and the world O winner, well done,
well done.

Speaker 4 (27:33):
That my friend's yep, that's right, Nancy and a winner?
Wow wow, just wow. Okay. I want to get this
story because I am never going to miss an opportunity
to point out what a joke the Denver Public School
Board is right up until the new members are sworn in,

(27:54):
being a white male in the Denver Public School Board
is apparently enough to really cause problems. John young Quist
is finding out what that's like, because now he's officially
been censured by the Denver Public School Board. What is
he censured for? Well, he was accused by the lying
Alex Morrero, who was actively applying for other jobs and

(28:17):
then lying about it. He was accused by Alex Morero
being insensitive towards people of minority status in Morero's office.
What did John young Quist do? He asked hard questions
and demanded answers. Now, an eighty thousand dollars investigation took
place and found no real evidence to confirm that John

(28:41):
young Quist was treating people badly. Now, I want to
just share with you this entire thing. This entire thing
is based on the feelings of a couple of employees
in the superintendent's office. Listen to this. This is from
shock Beat. The school board ordered an investigation into young

(29:01):
Quist's behavior in May, hired a Denver law firm, and
a twenty nine page report released last month says investigators
found no evidence of overt racism. However, they concluded that
young Quist likely exhibited bias in interactions with some district
leaders of color. The report notes that the twenty seven

(29:22):
witnesses who were interviewed had differing opinions about whether they
had experienced biased conduct from mister Youngquist. We noted white
staff members, even those who present on data and issues
mister Youngquist has identified as a priority, largely did not
feel they received inappropriate or disrespectful pushback from mister Youngquist.

(29:43):
In contrast, several staff members of color described feeling mister
Youngquist treated them less favorably than white staff members. Okay,
so now we're going to make policy and decisions about
Poul based on people's feelings. As as someone who has

(30:05):
a rather blunt delivery, that would be me. I have
been accused in the past of being too well blunt.

Speaker 1 (30:13):
You know.

Speaker 4 (30:13):
I had a boss tell me a long time ago.
You know, Mandy, it's what you're saying is right, but
most people are not prepared to receive it when you
drop it in their lap like that. So I worked
really hard on learning how to give constructive feedback when asked.
I keep my comments to myself when not asked. But nonetheless,

(30:34):
what I don't perceive to be an issue, being blunt
is a huge issue for some people. Some people that
I worked with had no issue with it. They were like,
I appreciate your honesty. There's no like, you know, there's
no wondering what Mandy really thinks because when you ask
me and I say, are you sure you really want
to know what I think, which is now my default response,
are you positive you want me to tell you the truth?

(30:56):
And they go sure, and then I tell them they go, okay.
I appreciate the honesty. There's there's no guile there. But
for other people it feels like a personal attack. What
am I responsible for their hurt feelings? Am I responsible?
When I treat everybody the same if somebody gets upset,
is it my fault that they receive that information differently
than everybody else. I'm just curious because I've worked with people,

(31:21):
and I know people who have that grievance mentality and
they're not all black, by the way, they could be gay,
they could be female, and behind every decision they assign
this nefarious motive when in reality the decision is what
the decision was the comment was what it was. There
was no malice intended. It was just hard conversations. And

(31:43):
now the Denver Public Schools has proven that it is
all about victim centered ideology by centering mister young Quist.
Let's reach out to JOHNN. Young Quist Anthony and get
him on the show. Please, let's make that happen. We'll
be back. When we get back, we're gonna talk to
a woman who's gonna help you understand how to move
to another country if you so desire. We'll do that
after this in where the.

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(33:08):
But in the meantime, if you have ever pondered the
notion of leaving the United States for some foreign land
for either retirement or maybe you're just hedging your bets
politically whatever works for you, and have thought to yourself,
that sounds interesting. But I wouldn't even know where to start.
My next guest guest is exactly where you start. Her
name is Heidi Finn. She is the head of the

(33:30):
Denver office of the Latitude Group. They're a company that
helps people establish second residency, second citizenship, dual citizenship, rather
and various places around the world. First of all, Heidi,
welcome to the show.

Speaker 7 (33:43):
Thank you, Mandy, thanks for having me.

Speaker 4 (33:45):
So what exactly do you guys do?

Speaker 7 (33:49):
So we help people that are looking for residency and
citizenships in foreign countries. Motivations are different. Some people want
to expand a business. Some people want to send their
kids to European schools. People look at it as a
geopolitical hedge. Some people want to buy property, increase the
rental portfolios. There's a various amounts of reasons, but we
help them do that.

Speaker 4 (34:10):
So are there countries around the world that are easier
or have better incentives? Tell me, because I don't think
most people realize that there are nations that offer really
kind of really nice packages or incentives to get you there,
like make it easy for you to move there, whereas
in some places it's downright impossible.

Speaker 7 (34:30):
Well, I wouldn't call any of the countries easy. There's
definitely a lot of bureocratic paperwork, but some are faster
than others. So the Caribbean, you could get a passport
a second passport in four to six months, whereas some
European countries like Portugal have a backlog of applicants that
can be two to five years.

Speaker 4 (34:49):
Oh wow.

Speaker 7 (34:49):
So it just depends on your timelines and kind of
your tolerance. But all of these programs, the really unique
thing about them is that you can apply for them
here in college without picking up on a jet and
starting your residency by moving. And a lot of people
look at that, like myself. I'm a mom. I have
a nine year old, and I started this process mainly

(35:10):
because I want to send my kid to a European schools,
and in doing so, I realized that you have to
plan for that. It's not just let's go tomorrow. It's
like building a house. You have to have your permit
in place before you can start construction. So it's the
same type of thing. If you want to move overseas,
your passport isn't enough as an American because you're in
on a tourist visa, so you need something that'll allow

(35:31):
you to stay longer. So people start the process now.

Speaker 4 (35:34):
So give me an example of what that process might
look like. And you just mentioned Portugal, and Portugal is
popping up everywhere on best places to retire. I mean,
it's really kind of having a moment. So if I
come to you and say, Heidi, I would like to
get dual citizenship in Portugal, walk me through what happens next.

Speaker 7 (35:51):
Okay, so the cariat is rules are changing as we're
speaking right now, but as it stands, what you would
do is go through quite a bit of extensive due diligence.
So all of these countries will require background checks that
require clear criminal background. Then there's an investment piece. There's
either a donation to the government an investment in government

(36:13):
bonds funds like European stock markets in each country. So
in the case of Portugal, Portuguese stock market they removed
the ability to purchase real estate, so some countries will
still allow you to do that. Portugal is not one
of those, but you'll start that process. We identify funds
that you may want to invest in. Some of them

(36:35):
can be things like renewable energy, cultural, all types of crypto,
any type of thing that There's about thirteen funds that
are in the Portuguese stock market that you can look into.
You don't have to pile all your money into one,
it just has to be The minimum requirement in the
case of Portugal is five hundred thousand euros and then

(36:58):
you wait. The backlog right now is about two years.
You get your permanent, your temporary residency card, and think
about residency cards like green card. We understand that as
an American, a green card allows you to permanently stay,
but then after five years, the way the current laws
are written, you then have the ability to stick with

(37:19):
that green card, or you could apply for a passport.
The unique thing about Portugal, it's one of the fast
tracks to Portuguese citizenship. But what that does is you
have to remember that it's part of the European Union.
So once you have a European Union or you have
an EU passport, then all twenty seven Member states open up.

(37:39):
So in the case of residency, if you apply for
residency in one country, then you have to stay in
that country, But if you have an EU passport, then
you can move to any of the twenty seven member states.
So Spain closed their program last year, but if you
have an EU passport, you can pick up and move
to Spain, which is a lot of our clients here
in Colorado. It's a pretty popular destination to do.

Speaker 4 (38:02):
This is fascinating and it's almost like they're wanting to
bring in immigrants, which is great, but they want to
make sure they're immigrants that are going to contribute rather
than be a drain on their system. Does that seem
fairly accurate.

Speaker 7 (38:18):
Well, think of it this way. All of these programs,
whether you're looking at Europe, whether you're looking at South
or Central America, or over in South Pacific, in New Zealand, Australia,
and over in Asia, including the United States, who has
the largest immigration program in the world EB five, it's
all about foreign direct investment. These governments are looking for

(38:41):
foreign direct investment in exchange for a residency or a citizenship.
So these programs aren't designed to or they don't appeal
to a lot of people that don't you know, looking
for digital nomad for instance, that doesn't have a clear
path to residency or citizenship, whereby these programs do. And
so that's what these gos are trying to do, is

(39:02):
to prop up some of their economy through this investment
and exchange for something that Americans want, and that's options.

Speaker 4 (39:08):
What are the countries that are easiest to establish residency
and that you guys work with right now.

Speaker 7 (39:14):
Well, the Caribbean's the fastest. So there's four programs down
in the Caribbean that can get you a passport, so
that's citizenship in four to six months. Panama's another. In
Central America. There you can actually purchase a real estate piece.
It has to be government approved anywhere from two hundred
and fifty thousand dollars, which you can't buy anything here
in Colorado for that, and that gives you something in

(39:36):
Central America. One of our most popular in aside from Portugal,
is Greece. There you can buy again a property for
two hundred and fifty thousand as a minimum euros and
you get an EU residency. Keep in mind that residency
in Greece means that's only for Greece, whereas if you
have a Portuguese passport, for instance, that allows even twenty

(39:58):
seven members states passed. So it really just depends.

Speaker 4 (40:01):
Yeah you said, you said Portuguese passport, but an EU
oh I see, because Greece isn't in the EU. Okay, gotcha?

Speaker 5 (40:07):
Correct?

Speaker 4 (40:07):
Gotcha?

Speaker 7 (40:07):
The correct molds another another very attractive one, although the
timeline is a bit longer, but it's also right around
that threshold. The smaller thresholds are very popular when it
comes to two hundred and fifty three hundred thousand dollars
entry rates, and then New Zealand's probably one of the
more expensive when it starts at three million, but you'll
have a permanent residency, which permanent residency within a month.

(40:30):
We've got several clients that have gone through that already.
So it really just depends. If you've got people that
are opening up businesses and are looking to expand, they
may look at different programs than someone like look a
retiree that may look at as you mentioned Portugal having
its moment affordability healthcare, you can you can add your
clients onto your application. Your kids can go to school

(40:53):
in Europe, you can buy property in other places. So
motivations are as varied as likely your audience.

Speaker 4 (41:00):
So Heidi, let me ask you this. I got a
couple questions on our text line, Manda. If you get
new citizenship, how does that affect your US citizenship? What
are we looking at here?

Speaker 7 (41:10):
It doesn't, so you are able to hold dual citizenship.

Speaker 4 (41:14):
So basically it doesn't have any impact. You just decide
which passport you're flying under.

Speaker 7 (41:19):
Well, correct, I have three, so I'm American by birth,
I'm British, I have a British passport by marriage, and
my mom fled World War Two in Germany when she
was twelve, and so I have German based on dissent.
So that's also another popular one. If you have any
kind of European lineage in your background. The most affordable
option Italian being a very popular one. German is another.

(41:43):
We have some Scandinavian countries. We have certainly a lot
of varied programs through Europe. But that's another way to
follow it without having to do a large investment. It
just takes a lot longer to do that, and rules
are continually changing.

Speaker 4 (41:57):
And you most of the time have to learn the language,
which is I'm not holding a dual citizenship passport for
Hungary right now because the language. Okay, I don't know
if I want, well, yes and no.

Speaker 7 (42:09):
So in the case of mind for dissent because my
family was persecuted by the Nazis, there is an exemption
for that. If you go through a Portuguese school, one
of the two that is approved by the a Portuguese government.
You take one hundred and twenty five hours and you
get a certificate and you that waives the ability to
or that waives the requirement for you to take the

(42:29):
language test. So there are there are ways around it.

Speaker 8 (42:32):
You know.

Speaker 7 (42:33):
Malta is their official languages English greet. Unfortunately, if you
have to reside there for at least seven years before
you can apply for passport. But then yes, you have
to as you said with your Hungarian, you would have
to learn a very complicated language.

Speaker 4 (42:47):
Yeah, okay, So will you ask her if we are
the only country that takes people that are immediately on
the covery. That's a political question, not a Heidi question. Uh, Mandy,
ask her about Cana. Yeah, I mean that's Canada.

Speaker 7 (43:02):
So Canada is a very popular program. However, they modified
that pretty quickly. A couple of years ago. So now
it's a startup visa where they put the government will
put you in again for indirect investment with startup companies
and you can be as involved or as a hands
off as you'd like, and that puts you through the
path's way to a permanent residency.

Speaker 4 (43:24):
How do people prove the descent? How do you have
to do that? This texture said, what if I prove
I have near distant family in that country. I have
family in Scotland and Poland? What is that process of
proving descent?

Speaker 7 (43:38):
Well, each country has different rules, so in the case
of Scotland you can only go back one generation. In
the case of Italy you can go back almost infinity.
But there's a lot of litigation right now that's changing
a lot of those rules. So I would just say
reach out, tell me where you're from. We have a
whole dissent program and department that is overheadquartered in Europe

(44:01):
that can go through that process with you in the
country that you're applying and decide and can help you
determine whether you're eligible.

Speaker 4 (44:09):
Heidi, somebody said, can you ask about people who don't
have a large savings account for investment? Is this just
one avenue to move to these countries. Are there other
avenues that maybe are more cumbersome or more difficult.

Speaker 7 (44:23):
Well, descent will be your least expensive. If you don't
have that lineage, then you can certainly look at things
like digital nomad visas. There's passive income visas which are
like retirement visas, and those do not have a direct
path to citizenship or permanent residency. So those are still
somewhat temporary, but it allows you in a different avenue.

Speaker 4 (44:43):
Yes, somebody asked, if I just want to be a
dual citizen, do I have to live in the other country?
Can you buy property there and never live there and
still have those same opportunities?

Speaker 7 (44:54):
So here I we'll just post the challenge to that.
So COVID it's a great example. We had a lot
of client that had second homes in various countries, including
the Caribbean, and when COVID happened, if you weren't a
resident with a permanent residency card or a citizen of
that country, it didn't matter if you had a five
million dollar or a twenty million dollar property. You were
locked out of that country. So could you sure? But

(45:18):
as we know the world is always changing, and that
doesn't necessarily guarantee you access.

Speaker 4 (45:22):
Okay, somebody asked about I guess is there a place
they can go and find out what country? Somebody asked
about Australia because you mentioned New Zealand, which is extremely
expensive to get to, but what about Australia.

Speaker 7 (45:37):
So Australia doesn't have a program currently they shut theirs down.
They used to have those on the points in the
merit system. I used to live in Australia and that's
how I got in back in my li I was
in my twenties. Now it's all very expensive, very similar
type of programs to New Zealand, where your entry level
is going to be in the millions. Again, trying to

(45:57):
curb the ongoing a kind of increase in kind of migration,
and really more thoughtful in their foreign direct investment.

Speaker 4 (46:07):
Heidifinn is my guest. She is with the company called
the Latitudes Group. I put a link to their website
that it is latitudeworld dot com. Heidi, this is fascinating
stuff and I just think it's interesting because I love
to travel, and every time I travel, one of the
things I do that my husband laughs at every single
time is I am constantly looking at real estate, right,

(46:28):
I'm like, what is this little apartment in Gree's gonna
cost me? And it's for sale and let me find out.
But now you've given me reason to like, actually look right,
I mean, really is this something that we want to
invest in? And as I say always, I always want
to hedge my bets just I'm one of those people
that Heidi, I appreciate the info today.

Speaker 7 (46:47):
Absolutely well. I appreciate you having me and again reach out.
Please we have an office here in Colorado if you'd
love to do a one on one or just a
phone call like this or meet in person.

Speaker 4 (46:56):
Happy to do it all right. That's Heidi fin with
Latitudes Group. Thanks Hidi, thank you, take care. You two
really interesting stuff. I got a lot of very specific
questions you guys. You know, what about a child born
in Germany. If my mom was born in England but
moved here as a kid, do she automatically have dual citizenship? No,
she does not, but she would still have her citizenship

(47:17):
for the UK unless they made some changes when she
was a kid. But I can't answer these questions, but
they can, Mandy. I have a British and Canadian passport
and a US Green card. I have my Irish grandmother's
birth certificate. Can I move to Mars?

Speaker 3 (47:28):
Yes?

Speaker 4 (47:29):
Yes, indeedy as long as you are best friends with
Elon Musk. If that question is no, then no, you
cannot go to Mars unless Elon's.

Speaker 5 (47:39):
Your best friend.

Speaker 4 (47:40):
Did you guys know Elon's trying to figure out a
way to build underground bases on Mars. He's trying to
go home. Aye, Rod, He's trying to go home. And
who are we to stand in the way.

Speaker 2 (47:54):
There?

Speaker 4 (47:54):
Actually, it's very interesting. I mean Grenada, why why not
be a Granada citizen?

Speaker 5 (48:01):
Why not?

Speaker 4 (48:03):
And Grenada no physical presence required save time with short
processing six to nine months, you'll have Grenada passport. You
can include your family members and take advantage of favorable
tax schemes.

Speaker 5 (48:16):
There you go.

Speaker 4 (48:19):
Listen, who can get Grenada citizenship? This is all from
the Latitude World website. Firstly, be over eighteen years old check. Secondly,
not have spent more than six months in prison check. Thirdly,
be solvent check. Lastly, have a clean bill of health
check Jeck, Jeck check. I'm practically there. Practically there. Now,

(48:42):
let me get back to the blog very very quickly.
Coming up here at one thirty, I'm going to go
through my my well, let's see my ten point plan
to overhaul the entire healthcare system. And these are things
that I think if we fix them, if we change them,
if we made them possible, because many of the things
on this list are actually explicitly prohibited by Obamacare. So

(49:07):
I would love to go through my list and bore
the crap out of you. But I'm feeling pretty good
about it. I put it out on my social media.
I'm I'm using it as what they call a thought starter, right,
So yeah, anyway, that is on the blog as well.

Speaker 5 (49:20):
I mentioned this.

Speaker 4 (49:21):
Yesterday when it happened, but I actually put the link
to Ron DeSantis and Jared Poulis's fight on X yesterday
on the blog because it's fantastic, absolutely fantastic. Now, speaking
of immigration, I want to play some audio for you
out of US Customs or US Yeah, Customs and Immigration Services.

(49:43):
This is out of Minnesota. Many of you may not
know this, but Minnesota has a massive, massive Somali population,
and now we're finding out that many of them ill
haan omard and by that I mean committed for aud
to get into this country. Can I'm my audio PLEASEA run?
Got it?

Speaker 9 (50:02):
Since September nineteenth, officers from our Fraud Detection and National
Security Directorate, working in teams, have conducted over one thousand
site visits across the Minneapolis Saint Paul area as part
of this operation. What they found should shock all of America.
Focusing on a list of over one thousand target cases

(50:22):
involving more than nine hundred individuals, our officers encountered blanketant
marriage fraud, visa overstates, people claiming to work at businesses
that can't be found, forged documents, abuse of the H
one B visa system, abuse of the F one visas,
and many other discrepancies. Over the course of the operation,

(50:44):
our officers found indication of fraud, non compliance, or public
safety and national security concerns in nearly a little less
than fifty percent of the cases interviewed. We found troubling
patterns with the Uniting for Ukraine program that should have
serious concerns under other administrations, such as.

Speaker 2 (51:03):
An individual filing to sponsor.

Speaker 9 (51:04):
More than one hundred aliens an organization sponsoring hundreds. We
are continuing to investigate these cases.

Speaker 5 (51:12):
Some of the other troubling cases that our officers found.

Speaker 9 (51:15):
In one case, officers identified an alien who would overstate
his visa waiver who was the son of a known
or suspected terrorist on the no fly list. He had
previously been found to have engaged in marriage fraud, which
resulted in the denial of several immigration benefit requests. He
was arrested and is now presently being returned to his
country of origin.

Speaker 4 (51:35):
That's not even the worst of it. You got to
go watch that on the blog today. Oh yeah, But
when you import people from third world countries that are
rife with corruption, they don't just bring themselves. They bring
it all with them. And that's what happens when we
get back. I fixed healthcare. Stick around.

Speaker 5 (51:52):
Jerry, Jack and Patrick are probably almost here too.

Speaker 4 (51:56):
You know, right now, since they are listening now, I
want you to dominate them and your expectations.

Speaker 5 (52:01):
I did not bring cookies intimidate them to them.

Speaker 4 (52:04):
They should go to my social media and look at
today's cartoon that I made.

Speaker 5 (52:07):
It's really good.

Speaker 4 (52:08):
It's really funny, very very funny.

Speaker 5 (52:11):
How long do our listeners think it'll take for a
winner to win? We're starting at two thirty. How long
until a winner wins. Now, keep in mind there's two
rounds round one, the first one to three points in jeopardy,
and then in the final the final two first one
to three points. Very cut and dry. How long do

(52:33):
you think it'll take for a winner to win against
you to get six total? Because I means three in
round one and three in the final. How long will
it take for someone to beat you in Jeopardy? How
long do you think? I don't know.

Speaker 4 (52:45):
How long do I think?

Speaker 5 (52:46):
Well, yeah, they all lose.

Speaker 4 (52:48):
I think they lose.

Speaker 5 (52:49):
We may have to win eventually and lose. They get
to pick the category. Did I tell you that?

Speaker 8 (52:54):
Wait?

Speaker 6 (52:55):
What?

Speaker 5 (52:55):
Yep, you'll see. You'll see you'll be.

Speaker 4 (52:58):
So rigged against me, much like our healthcare system is
rigged against America. That's the list segue. Okay, So listener
asked me in a very nice email yesterday. He said, hey, Mandy,
talk a lot about healthcare. What are some of the
best ideas out there to fix the cost of healthcare?
And I said, you know what, I know a lot
of things. I'm going to write them down and I did,

(53:20):
and so this is my list of things that we
could change in healthcare. And some of these would require
either repeal or amendment of Obamacare up to a certain
point because they are expressly.

Speaker 5 (53:32):
Forbidden in Obamacare.

Speaker 4 (53:33):
Some of these things. If you think that the Affordable
Care Act was ever designed to make things more affordable,
go in and look at the stuff that they forbid
you to buy. Right, everything they forbid you to buy
is something that would help make healthcare more affordable. I'm
just saying number one and just I'm going to go
through these quickly, but I expounded on them a little

(53:55):
bit more on the blog, and I posted this on
social media so you can share it with your friends,
and if you have a better idea, you have a
way to amend this, please comment on my Facebook post,
comment on my ex post about this, you know, because
I wanted this to be a jumping off point. Number one,
price transparency to trigger competition. Now, this is one of
those things that fundamentally, once you start it, it's just

(54:17):
a tool. It's not in and of itself going to
lower health care costs. In Colorado, we have transparency laws
on pricing, but there's no incentive for anybody to look
and see what the pricing is because we're still too
reliant on the third party system what it's been demonstrated
in other areas, requiring hospitals, clinics, and insurers to discose

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real cash prices, let's consumers compare the costs and forces
high price providers to compete. This is one part of
the machine. We'll get to why that's important in just
a few minutes. Number two expansion of direct pay cash
pay medicine, direct primary care. You guys know I love this.
You guys know that I love Pinnacle Living its primary

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care because of this. But these cash pay surgery centers
cash pay direct primary care. They provide complete transparency upfront pricing,
and where they have the Oklahoma City Surgical Center, it's
been proven that it can drop in the area around
where direct primary care is active prices forty to seventy

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percent compared to traditional hospital systems. So that is incredibly important.
Strengthen and broadened health savings accounts. If we can all
contribute to an HSA pre tax, we're going to contribute
to a health savings account that we can then use
to cover our health costs. It would make it so
much easier for people not to get crushed and for

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them to actually get healthcare delivered before they meet their
ginormous deductible. Number four promote competition by removing barriers to entry. Now,
in Colorado, we do not have the certificate of need
requirements that they have in many, many, many other states.
What that is is that before a hospital or a
MRI facility, or you know, a surgical center can set

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up shop, some governmental organization has to decide if there's
actually a need for it. That's insane. Increase supply and
demand will therefore be responsive and prices will eventually go
down when you have more options. We know this from
our housing market. Number nine allows nationwide health insurance markets.

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Right now, all of our health insurance mandates, where our
health insurance companies are forced to pay is decided by
the Colorado Insurance Board. Now, if I don't want coverage
for prosthetics for recreation, or I don't want to pay
for a guy who's decided he's a woman to get
his boobe done, if I don't want to pay for that,
I should be able to buy a plan in Wyoming

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that doesn't have those mandates. Now I would say arguing,
I would argue that you should do away with all mandates.
And I know what you're thinking. Mandy, what about preexisting condition?
I thought about that too. I think is a condition
of being able to offer insurance. Insurance companies should have
to commit a certain percentage of their book of business,

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like they have to have ten to fifteen percent new
customers every year with a pre existing condition. And if
you have a pre existing condition, you don't have insurance,
or you have all of a sudden you're diagnosed with
a heart condition that you didn't have and you didn't
have insurance, and then you want to buy insurance, one
of two things can happen. One, you'll be forced to
go with whatever insurer has room for you, which may

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not be the best insurer. That's thing number two. And
you're going to have to pay a high deductible. That's
your penalty for not carrying health insurance up to that point.
But if you can bring the cost of health care
down out of the stratosphere, and you can bring the
cost of health insurance down, or bring the cost of
membership and direct primary care down, then there's less incentive

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to not have health coverage. You know, right now when
people say, look, my premiums for my family are three
thousand dollars a month, and then we have a five
thousand dollars deductible for every single member of our family,
and I'm going to drop my insurance. I'm like, I
hear you, I get it, I get it. People should

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be allowed to buy a catastrophic policy that doesn't kick
in until ten thousand dollars with a lifetime max of
you know whatever, for a yearly max of whatever you
want to make that yearly max. But they shouldn't use
any of that insurance for any preventive care. A huge
part of the problem with insurance now is that we

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are we feel no, there's no price sensitivity for the
consumer now. I want you to be able to go
and get your physical one hundred percent. I want you
to go and get preventive care like your mammograms and guys,
I want you to get your prostate checked. I want
you to do those things. But when you go in
to see your doctor, and this has happened to me
so many times, it's not even funny. You go in,

(58:53):
like when I was having all these knee problems before
I went to Reagen Revolution. This is actual story of
me going to the orthopedist. The orthopedist and he looks
at my knee and he goes, okay, look, you know
we did the x rays and I can see a
little bit here, damage here. Whatever I can see, you
don't have a lot of space between. And he goes,
do you want to do an MRI just to like
get a better idea? And I said, what is the

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MRI going to show you that you don't already know?
And he goes pretty much nothing. And I was like, well, then,
why am I going to have an MRI? And he
was like, well, some people like to have an MRI.
And I was like, cousein insurance is paying for it?
And then I asked him this question, how much does
an MRI cost? And the orthopedic surgeon, a man who

(59:36):
was in medical school for I don't even know how long.
Do you know what he said to me. He goes,
I have no idea. He's selling me an MRI, but
he has no idea how much it costs. I mean,
that kind of stuff has to stop. And the best
way to stop it is when you go to the
doctor to have your knee checked out and they go, look,
here's what the x ray show. Do you want to
have an MRI if you're coming out of pocket for
that then you get a lot more sensitive and you're like, no,

(59:58):
I don't really need that. We have to inject some
of that into the healthcare system. All right, guys, I'm
not done. You can find this whole thing on the blog.
I put it on social media, on Facebook, and I
put it on X. We're going to get through the
rest of these before we do the two o'clock hour.
We got tournament. It's a big show. We got to
out ah that day. We'll be right back for me

(01:00:21):
to finish this first. Okay, So I'm talking about ways
to solve the healthcare crisis, and I came up with
a list of ten things that we could institute that
would have a huge impact on the cost of healthcare
and immediately inject free market principles into a system which
has been so distorted. Let me make one more point
than I thought of last night that never occurred to

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me quite like this. If you want to know why
I hate socialism, look at our healthcare system. Hear me out.
Our healthcare system is micro managed in such a way
that it incentivizes things that don't make sense, like performance
based pay. We're gonna get to that second, and it

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props ups systems that don't work because once it's codified
into law, well that's it. That's what you're doing now.
So this is absolutely the abject failure of central planning.
So let me continue allow nationwide health insurance markets so
you could buy across state lines, encourage catastrophic insurance for
major medical costs. And this is we've got to change

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the way people think about what health insurance should do.
Your auto insurance does not pay for oil changes. Your
homeowners insurance does not pay if your sewer line collapses.
I know that for a fact. So the things that
you should be taken care of, your preventive medicine, your
preventive maintenance, things of that. I mean you may have
to take on more of the responsibility there. We can

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also pair catastrophic plans with HSA's to reduce premiums and
put downward pressure on everyday healthcare costs by making you
aware of how much things cost, because now you're using
your HS say, to come out of pocket to pay
those costs. Number seven, and this is a big one
because drug prices are a huge part of healthcare expenses.

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Increase competition and prescription drugs faster, you guys may not
know how the drug companies gain the system. When it
comes to patents, there's a certain percentage of time I
believe it is seven years that a drug remains or
should remain, in patent. So ostensibly the drug company can
recoup the costs of research and development for that drug.
But the way the drug companies do, they'll go in

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and they'll make a little tweak to the formula and
then they'll keep it under patent. Or they'll take two
old drugs and they'll formulate them together to make one
new drug, and they'll charge a fortune and keep that
underpatent far too long. So there are ways to sort
of go after the drug companies the way they gain
the system. Because once generics come on the market, the
price of brand name drugs can drop as much as

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eighty to ninety percent. So the key to bringing down
drug prices is to allow the drug companies to remake
their money and then make the generics available. I mean,
you guys, well, Govy should already be a generic. There
should already be a generic for Goovy and probably ozempic,
a lot of the biologics that cost a fortune, like Humera,
and there should already be a generic for that, and

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then if you really want to go after drug prices,
you incentivize the building of drug companies and drug factoring
like manufacturing plants here in the United States to encourage
the production of generic medications. Number eight expand the scope
of practice for non physician providers, nurse practitioners, physician assistance, pharmacists.

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They should all be able to deliver care and do it.
When I go to my regular little primary care provider,
I only see the nurse practitioners. I just like them better,
and we need to make them more autonomous that they
can do more. Number nine, This is one of my favorites.
Go to lump sum payments for scheduled medical procedures. Oh,

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you need to hit replaced. Here, you have ten thousand dollars.
We're gonna cut you a check. You're gonna have to
you can go ahead and pay it to the company,
and if you get a hit replacement for seventy five
hundred you just made yourself twenty five hundred bucks. That
not only incentivizes people to be smart about what they're spending,
but it also incentivizes different you know, doctor's offices to

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be the best price. These are all market forces at
number ten do away with performance edicts of care. The
government uses what's called pay for performance standards. They sound
really good because because they dictate certain things that the
doctor has to do in a certain way to treat you.
But they are one size fits all, and medicine is

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not one size fits all. Not only that, they add
a huge cost to the delivery of services because of compliance.
And here's the kicker, you guys. They have shown to
be an abject failure in improving outcomes in health zero
zero positive impact. So these are my ten things to
fix medicine right now, and I just wanted to put

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them out there so when somebody says none of the
conservatives ever bring any ideas to the table, you'll be like,
uh oh, Mandy Connall did back after this.

Speaker 1 (01:05:10):
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Speaker 5 (01:05:37):
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Speaker 4 (01:05:38):
Let it get the third hour of the show. I'm
your host, Mandy Connall. I just met the three losers
that are coming in and trying to beat me in
Tournament of the day.

Speaker 2 (01:05:48):
Happy end of this hour.

Speaker 4 (01:05:50):
But in the meantime, I'm just gonna say this. I
was just perusing the blog because I was like, okay,
I got a short segment. Then we're gonna bring the
contestants in because there's so much good stuff on this
blog today. If you haven't looked to the blog, you
are going to miss the video of Russia's first AI robot.
And if you do nothing the rest of the day,
you were Did you see the AI Russian robot a rod?

(01:06:12):
Did you see the video of Russia's first AI robot
on the on the blog today?

Speaker 5 (01:06:17):
Yes.

Speaker 4 (01:06:18):
They basically made a robot version of Joe Biden. Okay,
and this robot comes out and he's he's like, he
looks a little drunk and he kind of uh he's
and and there's guys.

Speaker 5 (01:06:28):
Mind him like oh I not.

Speaker 4 (01:06:30):
Whatever they say is for no and Russian and and
the robot just just face planet.

Speaker 3 (01:06:38):
It is.

Speaker 4 (01:06:41):
Chef's kiss. Absolutely fantastic. That video is on the blog today.
I also have videos that are not as funny. Our
hapless mayor Mayor Mike Johnston in his effort to create
more affordable housing. That's a good thing, right, you want
affordable housing for people like teachers and firefighters. But in
showing off the new residences on a coma, he is

(01:07:05):
telling us that affordable housing at residences of a coma
are going to include teachers, firefighters, and homeless people and criminals,
people that are currently living off the street, on the
street that the mayor just wants to shove into housing
and hope for the best. Except here's a huge problem, huge,

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huge problem. I have video from the Denver City council
member and a woman stepped up to make comments to
the city council about what had happened to her family's
small apartment complex since they started working with the Community
Economic Defense Project, which is an organization funded by taxpayer

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dollars and landlord fees that places a formerly homeless tenants
into housing. Listen to this, do I have my audience?
Listen to her testimony about what that's been like for
her family.

Speaker 6 (01:08:06):
Okay, okay, Hi, my name is Christina Eisenstein.

Speaker 2 (01:08:11):
Thanks for having me today.

Speaker 6 (01:08:13):
I'm oh I thought glad I'm here today to urge
you to vote no on Bill twenty five.

Speaker 2 (01:08:22):
Dash fifteen eighty.

Speaker 6 (01:08:23):
This would provide the Community Economic Defense Project with two
point seven million more Denver taxpayer money to help them
fight evictions against landlords. My family owns a small building
at thirteen hundred Adams Street in Congress Park Park. Over
the past year, the building was under the management of

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Force our property management. Five of our eighteen units were
filled with tenants from the Community Economic Defense Project. What
followed has been nothing short of a nightmare for our
family other residents in our neighborhood. Two of those tenants,
at the council of certain CDP members.

Speaker 2 (01:09:08):
Were paid to leave.

Speaker 6 (01:09:09):
They asked us to pay their tenants to leave because
of the ongoing safety.

Speaker 5 (01:09:13):
And drug issues.

Speaker 6 (01:09:15):
We recently had their apartments tested for meth and for
crystal meth and fentanyl, and they came back at a
significant contamination for both of those. Now we're facing a
very costly and exhausting mitigation process.

Speaker 5 (01:09:30):
We also have to.

Speaker 6 (01:09:31):
Test any adjacent apartments to see if they're spread. Through
the experience of working with the Community Economics Defense Project,
I've learned that they operate with no accountability. They do
not drug test or screen tenants, They do not require
work treatment or rehabilitation participation, and they knowingly place people

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with active drug addictions and violent criminal backgrounds in family
buildings next to young families. We've had to move two
families already, one with a two year old child, another
who was a young couple. When I've tried to reach
out to their caseworkers for help and support, they've been unreachable.
Calls go and answered emails are ignored for days weeks.

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I had to move two young families for their own
safety to another building. I've had to hire off duty
police officers to be on site at all times for protection.
I had to install fourteen cameras, to which the CDP
was quite angry about because up until that point they
love to use the word hearsay when I would beg
them for support or help with their tenants. This program

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is doomed from the start. And as a small landlord,
a mom and pop, I am not a large corporation.
I can tell you with conviction that we do not
want to evict people, especially in this market where it
is difficult to find tenants.

Speaker 5 (01:11:00):
You don't want to evict.

Speaker 2 (01:11:00):
It is the last possible resort to do.

Speaker 6 (01:11:04):
This eviction is because of ongoing drug issues with the tenants,
and they're asking for more hard earned taxpayer money for
this when they don't actually fix the problem.

Speaker 5 (01:11:15):
At its source.

Speaker 4 (01:11:16):
So that was a woman testifying a dinversity council. Now
this is what the mayor wants to put more addicts.
They want to put more mentally ill people living right
next door to firefighters and teachers. Are you a teacher
who wants to live in this are you? I don't.
I mean I moved into a neighborhood where it looked
like okay, let me tell you a little secret. If

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you drive through a neighborhood. Actually, this might not be
true anymore with everybody working from home. This was a
real sor many many years ago, said look, if you
are thinking about buying a house, you need to drive
through the neighborhood in the middle of the day, in
the morning of the day, and then at night. And
if you see everyone home during the day, it means
one of two things. It means you're moving into a
neighborhood with a lot of retiree who are home all day,

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or you're moving into a neighborhood where no one has
a job. And I was like interesting, interesting, And I
found that to be true, and I don't want to
live in neighborhood when nobody has a job. I just
don't let me. I don't want to share this, but
that all the video of Mayor Mike is on the
blog as well. You really should watch it. And you
got the video of the Russian robot falling on its face.

(01:12:23):
There's also some really kind of nerdy statistical information about
the Finnish Civil War of nineteen eighteen, meaning the civil
war that happened in Finland in nineteen eighteen, and it's
used to demonstrate a point. And this is what I'm
going to call the Zoon Mamdani effect. Zoon Mamdomni comes
from a wealthy family, a very wealthy family. And what

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this shows is that soldiers who were in the Finnish
Red Guard, which is the communist socialist Red Guard, who
were fighting to bring socialism to Finland, they were essentially
the losers of their family. They were mobile, they were
born in high class, but couldn't keep it up because
they don't have the brain power, or they don't have
the drive, or they're just lazy and they'd rather deal

(01:13:09):
in the grievances of greed. And you got to read
the whole thread. The whole thing is on there. It's fantastic,
and I'm looking at everything else. Ay Ron, I have
a beef with one of the videos you sent me.
Does anybody call mac and cheese just mac?

Speaker 5 (01:13:24):
Sometimes you just call it mac?

Speaker 4 (01:13:27):
Who does? Who are these people? Who are these people
who can't be bothered to finish a sentence mac and cheese?
This guy asked the question, does mac actually stand for
mac and cheese or does it stand for macaroni? And
I'm like, I've never heard a person in my life
called macaroni and cheese just mac. All of this stuff
is on the blog and you guys are missing it.
When we get back, I'm going to bring in the

(01:13:48):
three lehuzers who are coming in to play Tournament of
the Day. I'm gonna get in their heads. I'm gonna
do a little syop so I'm gonna give, you know,
just rattle them a little bit. A Rod's like to
get comfortable with the microphone. Ayron is also gaming the
entire system, changing the rules to make it impossible for
me to win. But whatever I shall prevail. That's coming

(01:14:11):
up next. We have our three contestants for tournament of
the day and rather than break up the tournament to
do that chit chat segment that happens in Jeopardy between
the first commercial or the first segment and the second segment,
where now Ken Jennings does the chit chat with the contestants.
I'm going to do this chit chat now. Welcome to
the studio, Jerry, Jack and Patrick or Pat, I should

(01:14:31):
Pat has officially shortened his name to make it easier
for himself to ring in. Is that accurate?

Speaker 5 (01:14:37):
That is extremely accurate.

Speaker 4 (01:14:38):
Yeah, you can't change it to what though? That was
what you were going with initially.

Speaker 8 (01:14:42):
That's that's what I tried.

Speaker 4 (01:14:43):
Now, Pat, I'm gonna start with you on your radio
dial from right to left. We've got Pat, We've got Jack,
and we've got Cherry. So Pat, what makes you think
you can beat me at this game?

Speaker 8 (01:14:52):
Well? Why not?

Speaker 4 (01:14:53):
I listen every day, m and I know you've been
doing this for a couple of years. Yeah you three
if you Yeah, yeah, Well I've been watching Jeopardy all
my life.

Speaker 5 (01:15:02):
Oh oh well, obviously Art is my favorite.

Speaker 4 (01:15:09):
So Art, Art's been dead for a long long time,
but he's still in Pat's heart.

Speaker 7 (01:15:14):
Jack, you, on the other hand.

Speaker 4 (01:15:17):
You are a real winners. You took ninth place in
second grade spelling me runner up in a geography competition,
and was voted second most like in your class. I
feel like this is the game you were born to win.
This is your chance to walk away the gold medal,
and I'm gonna dash those hopes right to the ground.
Bring it, let's go what And then, of course, Jerry

(01:15:38):
CSU graduate mechanical Engineering at me, look at how smart
I am math for seven years? Look me, there are
no math questions. That is a firm rule with that note.
You know, math has been part of the day since
it's inception.

Speaker 5 (01:15:54):
It's randomized.

Speaker 1 (01:15:55):
No.

Speaker 4 (01:15:55):
If I need to go call my first producer and
say was there ever math an of the day and
he will say no, it has been forbidden. Well see, so, Jerry,
you feel like your trivia game is strong enough to
do this definitely, and you brought a cheering section. I
feel like that's a little unfair.

Speaker 8 (01:16:12):
She is the one who controls my life. She said
she was coming. I said, okay, Dan.

Speaker 4 (01:16:17):
That's and a smart man. And her name happens to
be Mindy. So it works out perfectly because we only
allow women with M and D and Y in their
names to come in the studio during the show. So
it was a little known fact. So Minby fit right in.
She's gonna be great here. Now are you guys? Do
you watch Jeopardy all the time? I know you do, Pat,
but I try too. What do you think about Ken Jennings?

(01:16:37):
Can we just have a minute and talk about Ken?
I hated him at first. He's growing on me a
little bit. But every night when they say this is
Jeopardy and here's your host, in my mind I go
Alex Jack. Every single night, he's growing on me a
little bit. I don't know, you know, I want to

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talk to Jack.

Speaker 5 (01:16:58):
Jack.

Speaker 4 (01:16:58):
You look, you look nervous, like in your head and
you are gonna embarrass yourself and you're terrified as well.
I've got I've got a seven year old son who
is all about crazy enough.

Speaker 8 (01:17:09):
He knows like every single European capital, So like, those
are the things we play, and I'm like, all right,
I think this is for him.

Speaker 4 (01:17:15):
Okay, this is gonna be for him. Essentially, you played,
are you smarter than a second grader? And you think
you're gonna come in here and just sweep the floor. Hey,
you know what, Sometimes you just gotta kind of gotta
play the back door a little bit. Jerry, So what
makes you think you're gonna win this game?

Speaker 8 (01:17:31):
Well, I have small man syndrome, and we can defeat
the world.

Speaker 5 (01:17:35):
Okay, great professor.

Speaker 4 (01:17:38):
Well, I mean he named himself the professor. It's like
me naming myself the most awesome talk show host in
the world. And I might have a plaque that says
that I don't know. I mean, I may have had
that made. It's fine, It's fine, okay, guys, it's almost time.
And you do know that the prize is fantastic, right,
I mean, you know that the prize is phenomenal. It's
a pair of tickets to Sunday's Broncos Chiefs game and

(01:17:58):
tickets to the VIP tailgate, and it's an awesome prize.
And we didn't tell people what the prize was because
we wanted you here because you love of the day,
not because you love the Broncos. Do you indeed love
the Broncos? Yes? I mean, guys, wow, I can hardly
keep up with all the chatter. Win did you talk

(01:18:20):
to Chuck before you came in here? As now with them,
we are going to take a quick time out. We
will be back for Tournament Day right after this. Now
it's time for the most exciting segment on the radio
of its.

Speaker 5 (01:18:33):
Guy of the Day. Hell yeah, those three.

Speaker 4 (01:18:42):
Voices you heard were Jerry, Jack and Pat, the three
victims slash contestants that we brought in to play the
extended version of Tournament of the Day. Why are we
doing it? What are we giving away, Anthony?

Speaker 5 (01:18:53):
Two tickets to Broncos Chiefs this Sunday and two VP
tailgate tickets to hang out before the game.

Speaker 4 (01:19:04):
All right, we have Jerry, Jack and Pat because they
sent in the most sarcastic entries of all of you.
But I will say I was very impressed by the
quality of the sarcasm and smack talk that we did
get in other entries. So if you did not make
the cut, know that you were very close. They were
just a little bit smackier than you were.

Speaker 5 (01:19:22):
What are the rules, Anthony, Well, a little different than
typical Jeopardy up until the final. These three contestants already
know of these rules. Here are the roles. In round one,
it'll be one versus one. So first, by the way,
order thank you chat GBT do randomize his order, first Pat,
then Jack, then Jerry. One at a time, they will
face off against Mandy with a category that the contestant

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will get to choose between a few options. The first
person to three points advances to the final sits out
round two. In round two, the two remaining contestants, restarted
back at zero, will again go one versus one versus
Mandy with a category of their choice to try to
get three points. Asked, Mandy, have a question. I have
a question.

Speaker 4 (01:20:02):
So if Pat gets three, which won't happen, and Jack
gets three, which won't happen, and then Jerry gets three,
which won't happen, what do we do?

Speaker 5 (01:20:09):
Not possible, because someone will get three before that next person.

Speaker 4 (01:20:11):
Even Pat gets three, then Jerry and Jack don't even
get a chance.

Speaker 5 (01:20:16):
Pat. If Pat gets three, goes to the final and
it's Jack and Jerry. Restarted back at zero, the first
of those to get three goes to the final against Pat.

Speaker 4 (01:20:23):
But are we going in Pat Jerry Jack or Pat?

Speaker 3 (01:20:25):
Jack?

Speaker 5 (01:20:25):
Jerry at Jack Jerry the whole time?

Speaker 4 (01:20:27):
Okay, here we go?

Speaker 5 (01:20:28):
Okay, So round making sure I understand what's going on,
it'll help itself out.

Speaker 4 (01:20:32):
A ron has put a restriction on me for the
first rounds, which I am. I would like to issue
an official complaint. I will be sending that to the
official complaint department.

Speaker 5 (01:20:41):
What is that rule that you have put on it
that Mandy cannot say anything until the end of the question.
It's so weird because I feel like Pat, Jack and
Jerry Avid, listeners of Mandy's Connell Show would know that
someone that never plays up the day in the studio
gets what advantage, Oh, that exact advantage. So we're giving
that advantage to our contestant.

Speaker 4 (01:20:57):
We're not usually giving way a pair of Broncos stick
as and a pair of Vip Tailgate Pat.

Speaker 5 (01:21:00):
That's why in the final it's a free for all.
More on that to come, mister Pat, you are first
up against Mandy. That means Jack and Jerry say nothing
this little mini round here, okay, Pat, pick a number
between one and forty thirty nine and a half. That
is not enough. I'm gonna go with We're gonna go
with thirty nine. Here we go, thirty nine. You get
to choose between two categories, policy or Google Easter eggs.

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Oh god, Pat, Policy, Policy? All right, here we go.
Many wait till the end of question. Pat anytime say
your name Pat. Technically that would be and they had
no negative points here. Based on a quote from him,
the Big Stick policy was the popular name for this
president's foreign affair strategy p Pat FDR so close, No, Teddy,

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Teddy ro onto Jack?

Speaker 2 (01:21:58):
Okay?

Speaker 5 (01:21:59):
Jack? Number between one and forty seven? Seven? He says,
you pick between plays or gimme five. Gimme five, gimme five.
It's made up of five events steeple chase. Manny cannot
say anything. I almost want to give a point to Jack.
Will be nice. You have to now wait. It's made

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up of five events steeplechase, fencing, swimming, pistol shooting, and
cross country run. Manny, Jack, you're already out, Manny. Jack
gets the free for all here, Jack, do you know
the answer?

Speaker 4 (01:22:33):
I don't Capalon.

Speaker 5 (01:22:35):
That is the penn half a right. Pat and Jack
both shut out. Jerry, you advantage to go up one
zero here. Pick the number between one and forty I
have to make Ross proud. Twenty three, twenty three, which
is a prime number. Let's go pick between my spice
and YouTube my spice, my spies. Good great Patty from

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Peanuts has this spice in her name, Jerry, Jerry Pep.
We're gonna give it to him. That's the only warning.
What is must be before the answer. Jerry is on
the board one zero. Back to Pat. Okay, now that
you have understood, I'm gonna give you, guys all hint.
I'm clearly telling you the season to pick of from
Jeopardy one through forty. So we use that to your advantage.

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If you can kind of determine what year, what seasons are,
that would help you. So Pat, pick between one and
forty twenty twenty, He says, celebrity ailments or the name game,
the name game, the name game again. Mandy, you must
wait Onigan's Island residence. Who is Barbie's little sister?

Speaker 2 (01:23:44):
Pat?

Speaker 5 (01:23:44):
Pat?

Speaker 8 (01:23:46):
Who is Mary Anne?

Speaker 2 (01:23:48):
Wrong?

Speaker 5 (01:23:49):
Mandy?

Speaker 4 (01:23:49):
Who's ginger wrong as well?

Speaker 5 (01:23:51):
Doesn't that Skipper Jo? Skipper Jack? Between one and forty
thirty eight thirty eight? He says, pick between Xes and
O's or US cities, US cities things found in this
city the Joe Lewis Fist statue, as well as Ford Field.

Speaker 8 (01:24:14):
Jack Detroit.

Speaker 5 (01:24:15):
That is correct. Jack is on the board again.

Speaker 2 (01:24:19):
In round one.

Speaker 5 (01:24:19):
The first one to three advanced to the final pat
zero Jack one. Jerry won. Jerry pick between seasons one
and forty thirteen thirteen Southern History or phobias. I'm gonna
give Mandy a chance here. So nice of you, Southern History.
Some states have debated removing the X shaped design of

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this battle flag from their own Jerry, Jerry, stars and bars.

Speaker 7 (01:24:47):
No flag, battle flag?

Speaker 5 (01:24:49):
That is correct. Jerry with the bat.

Speaker 4 (01:24:56):
And it's not stars and bars.

Speaker 5 (01:24:59):
Rent the seas, it says, what is the stars and bars?

Speaker 4 (01:25:02):
There you go?

Speaker 3 (01:25:03):
Yes, we are the Q.

Speaker 5 (01:25:05):
He is one point away from moving in our first
advance to the finals. Packed you are not on the board.
You are so confident. How are you feeling that?

Speaker 4 (01:25:12):
Horrible?

Speaker 5 (01:25:13):
Horrible? He says, pick between season one and forty. You
can also pick now you can pick Jeopardy Masters season.
Don't pick celebrity the season. Now I can pick the
Jeopardy Grays of all time. Season your call? Season eighteen, Thanks,
Season eighteen?

Speaker 4 (01:25:31):
Do you pick Masters. We're not going to get out
of us today.

Speaker 5 (01:25:33):
We're just go with celebrity weddings or science guys, Science guys,
science guys, let's go with He formulated universal laws of
gravitation and motion and was the first scientist buried at
Westminster Abbey.

Speaker 4 (01:25:52):
Who is Sir Isaac Newton?

Speaker 5 (01:25:53):
That is correct?

Speaker 4 (01:25:55):
On did you don't know when the question is going
to end? That's what's killing me.

Speaker 5 (01:25:58):
Say I will say go from now on? Okay, all right, Jack,
you have won. Pick between season and forty twenty seven,
twenty seven, Hold dang loading, here we go. Pick between
ice cream and summer games. Summer games summer games. Little
tigers know that the WMF is the World Federation for

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the mini version of this sport. Look out for the windmill.

Speaker 4 (01:26:25):
Go maybe what is name for golf?

Speaker 5 (01:26:28):
His was just golf. We'll give it to you. Okay, okay, Jerry,
you have a chance to advance to the finals. Pick
between season one and forty. Let's go with seventeen seventeen.
Again we are playing Tournament of the Day. The winner
gets two tickets to the Broncos Chiefs game n VIP
tailgate tickets. Pick between mottos and slogans or candy names,

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can names candy names. In a seventy seven film, Diane
Keaton was looking for him.

Speaker 4 (01:26:57):
Maby, what is mister goodbar? That is correct?

Speaker 5 (01:27:00):
Area he kept from the finals at least this time
got in this path. Pick between season one and forty
twelve twelve, He says, let's go with make your mark
or the nineteen forties, nineteen forties, nineteen forties. In nineteen

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forty two, the Supreme Court rule that divorces granted in
this state were valid throughout the US. Go what Pat?
What is Nevada? That is correct? Pat is on the moon.
I didn't know that. To comeback on Jack, you have
one pick between season one and forty thirty four thirty four.

(01:27:45):
Pick between it's totally tubular or I give you everything.

Speaker 4 (01:27:54):
Tubular.

Speaker 5 (01:27:56):
This tube, in which you can see changing colors, was
popular from its bench in eighteen sixteen.

Speaker 4 (01:28:01):
Lord ooof shoot.

Speaker 5 (01:28:03):
Now Jack gets to gets an advantage. The television wrong.

Speaker 8 (01:28:08):
Is correct.

Speaker 5 (01:28:10):
Back to Jerry, Jerry, I still have a chance to
go to the finals. Pick between season one and forty
thirty one thirty one. Pick between tools and discographies. Oh god, tools, tools.
The crosscut type of this tool works, your guest, Jerry
saw that his paracta. Jerry's onto the finals. Round two

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Between Pat and Jack. Now you get to sit. We
start back at zero, start back at zero.

Speaker 4 (01:28:41):
Okay, here we go, guys.

Speaker 5 (01:28:42):
So between Pat and Jack. I need you to both
rock paper scissors right now for the first one. He
gets to go first.

Speaker 3 (01:28:47):
Rock.

Speaker 4 (01:28:48):
Oh, nope, do it again, rock raw, rock paper scissors.

Speaker 5 (01:28:53):
Shoot, Come on, Jack, I'm about to give it to
Pat one more time, Jack, Jack got it?

Speaker 2 (01:28:58):
Jack got it?

Speaker 5 (01:28:59):
Okay, Jack one because Jack again? Jerry's waiting in the
final between Pat and Jack.

Speaker 2 (01:29:04):
Jack.

Speaker 5 (01:29:05):
Pick between season one and forty well thirty one thirty one.
Pick between take a photo or bird words and phrases
take a photo, take a photo. A larger aperture means
that this three word term will be shallower. Pat knows,

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but he don't need it. He doesn't need it right now.
I have no idea three two one? What Jack? The
perception so close? What is depth of feel?

Speaker 4 (01:29:36):
All right on to Pat?

Speaker 5 (01:29:39):
Pat? Between one and forty Season fourteen orteen, Let's go
with G Whiz or indy five hundred flags G Whizz
G Whiz. If you order a G and T in
a bar, you'll probably get this.

Speaker 2 (01:30:01):
Pat, Jim and.

Speaker 5 (01:30:07):
Pat is on the board. All right, Jack, you need
to get going here between one and forty alright five,
go on early, uh opera or flowers? Oh good lord, no,
I gotta redo. Nope opera or flowers opera, opera, handles opera.

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I'm not gonna try that. Next one. The title character
isn't a filet. She's Lothario's long lost daughter. I say close.
The title character isn't a file at, She's Lothario's long
lost daughter. Come on, it's right there. Gave it to you.

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Three two one?

Speaker 2 (01:30:50):
What is Mignon?

Speaker 9 (01:30:51):
Oh?

Speaker 4 (01:30:52):
Yeah, all right?

Speaker 5 (01:30:52):
Back to Pat, Pat, pick between one and forty seven
seven the Olympics or dessert the Olympics. The Olympics like
second place medals, those for first place are also made
of this, but coated with Pat.

Speaker 2 (01:31:11):
What is gold?

Speaker 4 (01:31:12):
Wrong?

Speaker 5 (01:31:13):
What is silver? Back to Jack, Jack, you still need
to get on the board here for the right to
go to the finals. Pat wants season ten.

Speaker 8 (01:31:20):
Jack want Season ten?

Speaker 2 (01:31:21):
Jack?

Speaker 5 (01:31:22):
Did I have to say?

Speaker 8 (01:31:22):
What is that?

Speaker 2 (01:31:23):
Yes?

Speaker 3 (01:31:23):
Ten?

Speaker 2 (01:31:23):
Yeah?

Speaker 8 (01:31:23):
Jack?

Speaker 5 (01:31:23):
One pick between architects or odds and ends and odds
and ends. It grants a title of real estate. A
villain might want the one to the ranch.

Speaker 4 (01:31:34):
Maddy, what's the deed that is correct?

Speaker 5 (01:31:36):
Back to Pat, Pat, you have a one nothing lead
here again. First three goes to the final. Pick between
season one and forty Season two, Season number two, Pick
between sports or cooking?

Speaker 7 (01:31:53):
Give me cooking.

Speaker 5 (01:31:54):
Only heavyweight boxer to win titles under two different names.

Speaker 4 (01:31:59):
Mandy, it was Muhammad Ali Jack back.

Speaker 5 (01:32:02):
To Jack, Come on now, Jack, pick the season thirty
five thirty Bye again, Jerry, just hanging out? How you feeling?
Jerry's waiting over there, just chilling. He's getting cold, is
what's happening in the competition. It's getting cold, all right?
Jack ordering the food court? Or literary characters order the
food court? Ordering the food court? Do you plead the

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fifth on ordering a side of chips and this smashed
avocado dip from Chipotle?

Speaker 4 (01:32:30):
Dang it, Jack, guacamole is correct? Nobody is answering in
the form of a question which deeply offends my Jeopardy
rules bearing self. I'm just almost there's a lot going
on right now that I'm not happy with.

Speaker 5 (01:32:49):
Eight Season number eight Saints or adlines? Okay, adlines? Products
made by this company aren't mm good? Pat, What is
Hampbell's That is correct? Tat with a two to one
lead over Jack, with the right to go to the
final to meet Jerry. Jack, you gotta get one here.
One through forty thirty one thirty one. Wow accidentally picked

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the same exact one. That's weird. Here we go. Let's
go with I saw it on the Internet or movie
roll in TV roll saw it on the Internet. Sad
on the Internet. This satiric news site reported paleontologists determined
dinosaurs were killed by someone. Jack, what is the onion?
That is correctly to tie. It's the next one to

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get a point and meet Jerry in the final. Path
pick a season another forty eleven. If Pat gets it
here he goes to the final. Take on Jerry. There
are no rebuttals. Don't songs or food? Can you repeat up?
Don't songs or food?

Speaker 8 (01:33:56):
Don't songs?

Speaker 5 (01:33:57):
Don't songs Bobby Brown's first Saw hit. It's also the
title of an Elvis hit. Pat, don't be cruel? That
is that is on to the final. Wow, Jack, it's
been nice knowing you hang out right there. We have
our final. It is Jerry and it is Pat. Ladies
and gentlemen, we are in the final. This is the

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right to win two Broncos tickets and two VIP tailgate
tickets to the Broncos Chiefs game this Sunday. Here's how
the final works. It is a free for all, just
like we do enough today. It is not one versus
one anymore. Jerry, Pat, Mandy. Anyone could answer first. One
to three wins. Mandy your points, tickets, Mandy, your points
don't matter ticket. So Jerry are you ready?

Speaker 8 (01:34:36):
Yes?

Speaker 7 (01:34:36):
Pat?

Speaker 5 (01:34:37):
Are you ready?

Speaker 6 (01:34:37):
So?

Speaker 4 (01:34:37):
I'm just basically the impediment right to this.

Speaker 5 (01:34:40):
Correct? Okay, correct, I'm just Jerry. You are the first,
the final. You get to go first, pick a season
twenty nine, twenty nine. Again, he is picking a season,
picking a category. But as a free for all, anyone
can go. But you get to pick the category between
body parts or words of wonder body parts, body parts.

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Anyone can answer, and Mandy does not have to wait
unless this goes too long that we're gonna make her wait.
Fossphines are the sensations of light you get when pressure
is applied to these.

Speaker 4 (01:35:10):
Mandy, what is your temples wrong?

Speaker 5 (01:35:12):
Either you can answer and get it right. I'll read
it again. Fossphines are the sensations of light you get
when pressure is applied to these. Jerry eyeballs, I'm gonna
give it to him, and says the eyes. That is
good time. Jerry with a one. Not all right, Pat,
you get to pick the category season one through forty
twelve twelve, pick between World War two terms and sweets.

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World War two terms now a term for any sudden
crippling defeat. The attack on this site brought the US
into war. Jerry, Jerry, Pearl harbor is corc.

Speaker 2 (01:35:53):
That is a tune.

Speaker 4 (01:35:54):
Nothing lead. That was a weirdly worded question.

Speaker 5 (01:35:57):
But go ahead, all right, Jerry, you are one one
away from clenching the dub, and you now get to
pick your category between one and forty In the season
seventeen seventeen, picked between hmmm f in geography or film noir.

Speaker 8 (01:36:16):
F in geography.

Speaker 5 (01:36:17):
The name of this Japanese peak is sad to you?
Who I think it was? Jerry, Let's go with Jerry.

Speaker 8 (01:36:26):
What is Mount Fujiama? Mount fu?

Speaker 6 (01:36:30):
Jerry?

Speaker 5 (01:36:32):
You are the way?

Speaker 4 (01:36:35):
I was like, he's got it right. I'm just waiting
for the payoff. There, boom on the phone, dominant Domina.
I would have beaten you in the first round, had
I know how my hands tied behind my back. But
that was a great victory. Congratulations man, you get to
go to the game now. And I didn't want to
say this on the air before. But apparently Jack isn't
even a Broncos fan, so it's good that he didn't win.
I was just saying I'm a Bears fan. Would have

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been awesome, So congratulations to you. Well done, Well done
all you guys. It is it is much harder being
in here, isn't it. It is like a whole news thing.
It's like it's like with Ross's game when I came
in to play you know, name that tune. When I'm
in my car, I get him every day. I'm like,
are you idiot? How do you not do it? But
when I'm sitting in here, it's like, I don't know.

Speaker 5 (01:37:18):
I'm not seeing the words too. Oh yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:37:20):
Be able to read the question is also helpful. Oh
that's huge, that's huge.

Speaker 5 (01:37:23):
But you got it.

Speaker 4 (01:37:23):
Sometimes I close my eyes if I want to really
pay attention. Ay Ron, great job. You got comments from
the text line about what a great, great game show
ho you are.

Speaker 5 (01:37:32):
Yeah that's terrible.

Speaker 4 (01:37:33):
What somebody asked me earlier, why haven't you ever tried
out for Jeopardy? It's because of this effect, right, So
I'm in here all the time, and when people who
are not on the radio come in you do, you
get locked up, and I am positive that's what would
happen if I tried out for Jeopardy. I'm not positive.

Speaker 8 (01:37:49):
I never know final.

Speaker 4 (01:37:51):
It depends. It's really you know, when you have a
really good game sitting in your living room and then
the final category is Italian literature and you're like, well,
I'm out, so I got nothing on that one, and it's,
you know, kind of kind of over. But guys, you
did a great job. I appreciate it very very much.

Speaker 8 (01:38:06):
Yes, thank you. I just want to say how to
my son Max.

Speaker 4 (01:38:09):
Hey Bud, Hey Max, your dad was very worried about
embarrassing you, and unfortunately he did so. But Max, your
dad came in here and tried his best, and that
is something that you should admire. Doing something that's outside
of your comfort zone is always something you should want
to do, even if your dad's a big loser. Anyway,
I'm just kidding Max, your dad's awesome, absolutely awesome. Guys,

(01:38:31):
Thank you so much. I hope everybody has a super
great weekend. We will be back on Monday, and I
think one moment, please, I believe we already have stuff.
Oh I'm actually really excited. Doctor Matthew Lilake. He's going
to be back on I think on Monday, because you
just wrote a great column sort of looking back at
climate predictions for the last twenty years just to see

(01:38:52):
how accurate they were. Spoiler alert they are not. We'll
talk to him. You guys, have a great weekend, Go Broncos,
very great job, have great time at the game, and
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