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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to a short week Monday. I am your host
for the next three hours and.

Speaker 2 (00:05):
The next three days.

Speaker 1 (00:07):
Mandy Connell joined today by Zach filling in a.

Speaker 2 (00:12):
Very nice Zach.

Speaker 1 (00:13):
Feel free to choose any of the air horns and
you can decide. You can decide which one is your favorite,
and you can make that your the long one that
you played in that's a Rod's favorite.

Speaker 2 (00:22):
Okay, I prefer the little girl. That's my absolute favorite
of that. No, that's me. That's the wine.

Speaker 1 (00:30):
Yogi's that is somebody at the at the event we had.

Speaker 2 (00:38):
And then there's one more. There should be one more
little girl.

Speaker 3 (00:41):
That one.

Speaker 2 (00:42):
Seriously, I mean, come on, that's too cute. It is
too cute, isn't it.

Speaker 1 (00:47):
It's the cutest little air horn in the history of
air horns.

Speaker 2 (00:51):
That's my absolute favorite.

Speaker 1 (00:52):
Although whenever you play any of them it takes me
back to a time when people were sending in air horns.
You know you can still do that. Do you know
how I get to the Zach or should I wait?
And you know, get more next week?

Speaker 2 (01:03):
I know how to get back or get to the
talk back? Okay? People want to send him in.

Speaker 1 (01:06):
Zach is our newest producer on our producer team. He
has been doing a great job figuring things out. Now,
if you'd like to submit your air horn via the talkback,
it's super easy. If you have the iHeartRadio app, that
little microphone that's the bottom right, you hit that, you
can record up to thirty seconds and you can record
an airhorn if you want to. I mean, if you
want to, if you, if you, it's entirely up to you. Anyway,

(01:32):
we're going to take you right up till two thirty today.
We're done at two thirty. Right back to thirty today
because the cu Buffs are playing in the Maui Invitational.

Speaker 2 (01:40):
Is that correct? I'm just pulling this for memory right now.
That is correct, the Maui Invitational.

Speaker 4 (01:45):
They got Michigan State today and whether or not they
win or loose today.

Speaker 2 (01:49):
Actually it's going to be a good game though it
should be. It should be.

Speaker 4 (01:52):
They've been outperforming expectations so far this season, so hopefully
they can give the Spartans run for their money.

Speaker 1 (01:57):
Okay, we shall see, and you'll be able to hear
the beginning of that at two thirty. So we're gonna
get a lot of stuff into a very short period
of time. So let's jump right into the blog. Shall
we find the blog by going to mandy'sblog dot com.
That's mandy'sblog dot com.

Speaker 2 (02:12):
Look for the.

Speaker 1 (02:12):
Headline this at eleven, twenty five, twenty four blog Happy
short Week Monday. Click on that and here are the
headlines you will find within anybos.

Speaker 2 (02:20):
Listening office half of American, all the ships and clippas,
and say that's going to Press Platt today on the
blog did.

Speaker 1 (02:27):
You take your turkey out of the freezer yet? Mayor
Mike Johnston open a can of worms?

Speaker 2 (02:31):
Last week? Scrolling It's almost time for.

Speaker 1 (02:34):
Our favorite holiday, Weld County paints the town red.

Speaker 2 (02:38):
This thread on.

Speaker 1 (02:39):
Matt Gates is absolutely insane.

Speaker 2 (02:42):
This is a war about oil.

Speaker 1 (02:44):
Oh, I mean rare earth minerals. Casa Benita workers voted
to unionize. Boulder isn't the utopia it once was. Drinksgiving
is a real thing. The woman who started the Haitian
cat eating story may be charged the twelve Days of
Christmas bill for this year. Lots of holiday events this
year when minimum waves becomes exclusionary. This story makes your

(03:05):
heart growth three sizes. Today a New York Times fact
check of RFK Junior leads to hilarity. Dear Elon, please
buy MSNBC card companies want EV standards left alone? How
worrying about sleep kills your sleep? Advice from a ninety
year old if you miss the Broncos game. Those are
the headlines on the blog at mandy'sblog dot com.

Speaker 2 (03:28):
And who boy, do we have a lot of stuff.

Speaker 1 (03:31):
By the way, the last video on the blog is
showing up as video unavailable. This video contains content from NFL,
who has blocked it from display on this website or application.
Watch it on YouTube. All you have to do is
click through to watch it.

Speaker 2 (03:44):
And if you miss the game yesterday, you really should
cause the second half.

Speaker 1 (03:50):
My friends, the first half was a little bit of
a slog. You know, things weren't quite working the way
that we wanted them to.

Speaker 2 (03:57):
And all of a sudden, the.

Speaker 1 (03:59):
Las Vegas Raiders, who have sucked all year were like, hey,
we're world beaters. And I was like, oh no, because
my brother has Raiders season tickets. See he's not a
Raiders fan, he just is a Las Vegas business fan.

Speaker 2 (04:12):
So he bought Raiders tickets.

Speaker 1 (04:14):
And when he bought Raiders, he had to buy them
before they got the Raiders.

Speaker 2 (04:16):
He was one of the pre buy people. And when
he bought them, I was like, dude, do you know
ghosts Raiders games? Like do you know who Raider fan is?
And he was like, what's the big deal. He went to.

Speaker 1 (04:27):
Two games and was like, I can't take my children there.
Literally said, I cannot take my children there. There's people
like screaming obscenities. There's people fighting in the city. It's
Raider fan being Raider fan. You're the craziest fans, they
really are. So he has kept his season tickets in
the hopes that those people will run out of money
to drive from Oakland at some point, and so he's

(04:50):
got his fingerscrossed.

Speaker 2 (04:51):
Now he just sells them every week. So I bet
I still needed the Broncos to win or otherwise, you know,
there would have been smack talk. Do you have brothers
and sisters? I have some of the steps sidlings here.

Speaker 1 (05:02):
Okay, Now are you close to them at all? Are
they distant steps? I have step siblings that I am not.

Speaker 2 (05:07):
Close to, so I you know some am my close close?

Speaker 3 (05:09):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (05:10):
But do you get the.

Speaker 1 (05:11):
Like consistent smack talk about things? Are you in competition
with any of these other kids at all. I mean,
do you run, run a little little jaw, a little
back and forth.

Speaker 3 (05:19):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (05:20):
My stepbrother's a UCF grad and no, you can't finish. Yeah,
throw that at him. Oh yeah, I'm gonna seal that
when I've heard that. Oh boy, that was. I was
in Orlando in the nineties. U CF was a commuter campus.
Uh huh.

Speaker 1 (05:32):
So literally everyone went to UCF for like nine years
and never actually graduated. He took one class a semester
and they just never graduated.

Speaker 2 (05:40):
So you can't finish. That's what it stood for.

Speaker 4 (05:42):
There.

Speaker 2 (05:43):
Did he finish? He miraculously did there?

Speaker 4 (05:45):
I go, you know, the CU's rival now in the
Big twelve, And when CU stomped them by like twenty points,
I got a I got some licks in there, for sure.

Speaker 2 (05:52):
That was You have to you have to take advantage
of the things that you can.

Speaker 1 (05:57):
And my brother and my sister are extremely successful, both
of them in their own various ways.

Speaker 2 (06:04):
They are very successful people.

Speaker 1 (06:06):
So I've got to take the ability to rub it
in just a little bit, even though he doesn't technically
care what. Nonetheless, the second half of the game was
really good, and I am I'm I'm so close to
buying a bow next jersey it's not even funny. But
here's my problem. Do you know the last jersey I purchased?

Speaker 2 (06:24):
Oh no, was it Drew Locke?

Speaker 1 (06:25):
No, it was Nolan Arenado for the Rockies. You know
what happened right after I shelled out? Oh yeah, yeah,
we paid. I can't even talk about that. It's still
it's still very upsetting, very upsetting. So I'm reluctant. But man,
how much fun is this kid to watch?

Speaker 2 (06:42):
He's amazing. He's yelling in the face of vaders defensive
wage and love him like I love this guy. I
what a great pick by Sean Payton.

Speaker 1 (06:52):
Can we just talk about the fact that during the
draft there were all these people that were like, we
don't know why Sean Payton is all in on this kid.
Sean pay knew why he was all in on this kid,
and he is just every week, every week, you can
see the improvement and you just don't know where the
ceiling is for the improvement. It's it's so much fun
to watch Bronco football right now. And how long has

(07:13):
it been since we've been able to say that?

Speaker 3 (07:17):
Too long?

Speaker 4 (07:18):
And in the past, you know, they'd go down to
the Raiders like you talked about in the first half,
and I'd be like, oh, here we go.

Speaker 2 (07:25):
This time. I was like, all right, well, you know, rough.

Speaker 4 (07:27):
First half, but they're gonna come out in the second
half and they're gonna win because of the head coach
and the quarterback.

Speaker 2 (07:31):
It's installed instilled so much confidence.

Speaker 1 (07:34):
Exactly, and that is something we have not had the
opportunity to enjoy in many years.

Speaker 2 (07:39):
So Broncos fans, like.

Speaker 1 (07:42):
I said, it's worth clicking through on the video on
the YouTube just to see it.

Speaker 2 (07:46):
That's why I left it.

Speaker 1 (07:47):
Normally, when that pops up, I take it off because
I'm like, well, that's annoying. But the highlights of this
of this game are really just really good, really really good.

Speaker 2 (07:56):
So I'm sure the guys on ka Wa Sports are
going to go on and on about it at length,
and why wouldn't we because it was so great.

Speaker 1 (08:04):
It's like the games that we've won this year are
the games we lost last year in the sense that
when momentum shifted, when momentum was going the other way,
that's when we lost. But now the momentum shifts and
we still win, and it's like Oh, thank you, Jesus,
Thank you, thank you Jesus. Number one important conversation that
we have to have listeners. And I'm not kidding when

(08:28):
I say this is the most important thing I'm going
to say on this program today. Have you taken your
turkey out of the freezer yet? Have you put it
in the fridge? What are you doing for Thanksgiving?

Speaker 2 (08:38):
Zach?

Speaker 4 (08:39):
I am going down to a black forest, you know,
kind of yeahs Rocardo Springs area and having a big
Thanksgiving feast with my family and then some some surrounding
family members that you know transplants from different areas.

Speaker 2 (08:53):
Oh, that's really cool. So you have so have they
taken the turkey out of the freezer yet? You need
to make a phone call. I'm worried about it. I go,
I'm worried about it.

Speaker 1 (09:01):
Make the phone call and Eatsco from your freezer into
your fridge. And I know, I know you went to
Costco yesterday and you don't have a single bit of
space in your fridge. But you don't need a frozen
turkey on Thanksgiving. That is bad, bad, bad, And yes,
you can saw your turkey in a cooler full of
icy water, but you got to change the water every

(09:21):
so often, and it's a big fat hassle.

Speaker 2 (09:24):
The best way is just get in the fridge.

Speaker 1 (09:26):
Let us sit in the fridge in the garage, put
it in the beer fridge. It'll be fine. But you
gotta start throwing that turkey now because Thanksgiving is Thursday.
Fun fact about Thanksgiving that I always kind of guessed
but I never knew for sure, and that is Thanksgiving
is our favorite holiday and it's.

Speaker 2 (09:48):
Not even close. So well, it is close.

Speaker 1 (09:51):
I'm lying as close so YouGov dot com is a
pole sit and they did a survey on the most
popular national and religious events. They did this survey in
the third quarter of twenty twenty four. What did they
find out? They found out that Thanksgiving is the number

(10:13):
one holiday in the country. We all love it, and
you know why. It is a low pressure holiday with
amazing food.

Speaker 2 (10:22):
Do you know what's number two?

Speaker 1 (10:23):
You want to take a guest, zach on what number
two is the holiday?

Speaker 2 (10:26):
That's number two? Halloween?

Speaker 1 (10:28):
No, no oh, Halloween comes in at number eight, way
off number eight, Yes, fourth of July.

Speaker 2 (10:35):
I'm trying to think something that is nass appeal like Christmas.
You're you're cutting off you're so close, you're.

Speaker 1 (10:40):
You're you're like nibbling around the edges. Right now, it's
another holiday without gifts.

Speaker 4 (10:45):
Oh so it's not that New Year's, no dang Valentine,
no Memorial Day.

Speaker 2 (10:51):
Oh everyone gets the day. I love having the day off.
It kicks off summer.

Speaker 1 (10:55):
It's barbecues, it's fun, it's having a beer with your friends.
It is remembering those who have died in service for
this country. And it is number two on the list
in a squeaker. Thanksgiving beat it by one percent in popularity.
Number three is Christmas. Now, of course we love Christmas.
But Christmas can be a high stress holiday situation.

Speaker 2 (11:15):
You gotta buy gifts, you.

Speaker 1 (11:18):
Trying to figure out how to see family, You're trying
to squeeze all this stuff in.

Speaker 2 (11:21):
You got to put the decorations up, blah blah blah.
But I still love Christmas. I am now, by the way, fully.

Speaker 1 (11:28):
Decorated in my house, two Christmas trees, all the swag
is up, and really frustratingly, I have artificial swag for
my staircase and the lights won't work this year, so
that's super annoying.

Speaker 2 (11:43):
But my house is ready to go.

Speaker 1 (11:45):
I'm listening to Christmas carols NonStop, and I'm making new apologies.
You know what, I'm gonna take a little break from
it for Thursday. I'm gonna feel gratitude all that stuff,
eat some turkey and some dressing that I'm right back
into Christmas.

Speaker 2 (11:56):
We're close now. When it was pre Halloween and I.

Speaker 4 (11:59):
Was seeing Christmas stuff go up out, yeah, now, but
it's weak of Thanksgiving. I think it's fine to get
in the holiday spirit. You're seeing the eggnog out at
the stores and everything. I'm ye feeling it.

Speaker 1 (12:09):
Mandy, Speaking of Vegas, did your brother attend the F
one race Saturday night? Lewis Hamilton almost won it, Andy,
he did, but I haven't talked to him about the experience.
I will say this, if you want to see the
F one race in Las Vegas, I would do it
in the next eight years because unless something significant changes
about that race, I don't He doesn't expect it to

(12:30):
be extended past that ten year mark. They have a
ten year contract for the one Las Vegas Grand Prix.
It is so incredibly disruptive to Las Vegas, and because
Las Vegas is in such a small compact area where
all of the tourists are, and it's right in the

(12:50):
middle of that, and they have to start setting up
like four weeks in advance. It is not good for Vegas.
So if you want to go see, I'm gonna go.
I love F one racing. I have always loved F
one racing, partially because I'm a snob and the people
at F one races are fancier than the people at
NASCAR races.

Speaker 2 (13:09):
Have you ever been to a NASCAR race? Act? I
haven't been to either, but both look like a potentially
fun time.

Speaker 5 (13:14):
Well.

Speaker 1 (13:14):
I have had the opportunity to go to Daytona, the
Pepsi four hundred and the Daytona five hundred.

Speaker 2 (13:20):
There is just.

Speaker 1 (13:21):
An interesting cross section of society that goes to the
Daytona five hundred for some reason. The Pepsi four hundred
is slightly bougier, but not really. But at the Daytona
five hundred, I saw multiple people with no shirts on
that had shaved their driver's favorite number into their back hair.

(13:43):
Not one, not two, but three separate individuals, not together.

Speaker 2 (13:49):
It's not like three buddies got together were like, you
know what I'm gonna do? I almost shave I'm gonsa
shave my driver's number in the back and my back hair,
and the other one were like, you know what, I
like that idea, do me too?

Speaker 1 (13:58):
No, three completely unrelated groups of people and then so
that's what you get at a NASCAR rate. And don't
get me wrong, NASCAR is way louder, and I know
it seems stupid, but watching the cars go by, even
when you're in the grand stand, even when you're like
halfway up, you can still feel the wind from the

(14:21):
cars going by, and the cars aren't. I mean, it's cool,
but F one is a little more low key, not
as loud, and the people are definitely fans here. So
I want to go to the F one race. We'll
see if it makes it there.

Speaker 2 (14:33):
Mandy.

Speaker 1 (14:34):
I think it's just because there are three days between
Thanksgiving and December.

Speaker 2 (14:38):
First, no, no.

Speaker 1 (14:41):
No, Mandy, get lights with remote control game changer. I
just want lights that will work. That's really what I'm after, Mandy.
The main thing I got out of yesterday's victory is
that it's actually fun to be a Broncos fan again
and it doesn't feel like they're gonna lose when things
get a bit wonky. Yep, me too on Aeronato. Now
I have a Dinger jersey. Hopefully they don't trade him,

(15:05):
but with his owner, you never know. Dinger should be
I'm not saying Dinger shouldn't sign a long term least somewhere.

Speaker 2 (15:10):
But you know, be careful, Just be careful, Mandy.

Speaker 1 (15:16):
Do you know what the Denver school closings? Are there
any layoffs?

Speaker 4 (15:19):
So far?

Speaker 1 (15:20):
They have not announced that they are laying off as
of yet. What they normally do with the school closure
situation is move teachers to other schools because more students
are there going to be at these other schools. So
I don't know if there are any layoffs in the
offings right now. And I know that Douglas County is
talking about closing schools and Highland's Ranch because of declining enrollment.

(15:44):
But they're not talking about layoffs either, because they still
have more kids enrolling in school in Douglas County. But
I don't know if that's the same in Denver.

Speaker 2 (15:53):
So as soon.

Speaker 1 (15:53):
As I hear about it, you will hear about it anyway, Mandy.
A year ago, the private jets caused mere delays at
the airport, and I thankfully change my layover or I
would have gotten in at two o'clock in the morning,
you know, speaking to the speaking about that. So I
want to just back when I lived.

Speaker 2 (16:13):
In Louisville, Kentucky, we got to go to the Kentucky
Derby and the Louisville Airport is glorious. It's small. It's
in the middle of the city.

Speaker 1 (16:22):
So literally, like if you were picking somebody up from
the airport, you would say, hey, when you land and
are taxing in, let me know. You would get in
your car, you would drive to the airport and you
would be there.

Speaker 2 (16:33):
By the time they got their bags.

Speaker 1 (16:34):
You know, it's not like it's in like our airport
is in Wyoming, so it's so far away you can't
do that. But on Kentucky Derby Day there are thirteen races.
The derby is the race eleven. And if you drive
by the Louisville Airport on Derby Day, the private jets
are valet parked wing tip to wingtip, like five jets deep.

(16:57):
And as soon as the derby is oh, they don't
even stay for the last two races. As soon as
the derby is over, there's this line of limos and
all these buses immediately going back to the airport and
the private jets start taking off every two minutes. A
private jet takes off for hours. It's crazy, and you
begin to realize I am poor.

Speaker 2 (17:21):
No matter how much money you think you have, You're
not flying out on a private jet every two minutes.
You're like, dang, I am poor. I had no idea
how poor I was. Different tax bracket, I guess.

Speaker 1 (17:32):
So, Mandy, you want to go to the F one
race where I want to go to the one in
Vegas because I have a free place to stay and
I could probably get tickets through my brother's company without
paying for them. So let me be clear about me,
your fearless host. If I can do anything for free,
that is how I'm going to do it. I just
you know, if I don't have to pay for it,
I'm not going to So there you go, Mandy. My

(17:55):
son and I attended the last F one Grand Prix
in Denver in two thousand and six.

Speaker 2 (17:58):
Didn't even know we had one one. Lol. You all
get way too excited for a couple of wins.

Speaker 1 (18:05):
We're excited for seven wins.

Speaker 2 (18:08):
Seven. It's been a decade long play. Seriously, it's been miserable, and.

Speaker 4 (18:13):
They have a great shot of making the postseason this year,
in a year that Vegas thought they were going to
be in the running for the number one.

Speaker 2 (18:19):
Pick in the draft. Yeah, yep, we've all got plenty
of reason to be excited. Excellent. Well, I am excited.
I don't care, Texter.

Speaker 1 (18:27):
You can be old, negative Nelly or negative Nick if
you want to. I'm going to be excited about the Broncos.
But you know why, because it's fun. It's fun to
be excited about the Broncos again. Mandy, fifty year Broncos
fan here, got my first jersey last year, number fifty three.

Speaker 2 (18:45):
Gratisjar. I love it.

Speaker 1 (18:47):
Well, there's a zero percent chance they're going to trade
Randy Gratishar. There you go, so you are safe, Texter
safe anyway.

Speaker 2 (18:57):
I'd love to know from you guys.

Speaker 1 (18:59):
Real quickly because today he's kind of a loosey goosey show.
Although I got two things on the blog that we
are going to talk about.

Speaker 2 (19:05):
One of them.

Speaker 1 (19:06):
Mayor Mike Johnston of Denver has created a nationwide poop
storm with his comments about putting DPD at the county
line with fifty thousand moms from the Highlands to protect
the illegal immigrants that he has swooped into Denver and
provided all kinds of free stuff for. And I've got
Valdemar Archiletta coming on. Valdemar posted something on Twitter the

(19:29):
other day just kind of as a question, and he said,
should we recall the mayor because between the one hundred
and sixty five million dollars spent on homelessness to house
two thousand people, you heard me, right, do the math
on that, and now we don't even know how much
money has been spent to house and take care of
illegal immigrants that came to Denver. He's now drawn a

(19:51):
line in the sand to say that he is going
to protect these people from anything quote illegal that the
government might try to do to report the people who
brought the who got in the country. It's a mess,
it's a mess. But first let's do something dumb. Let's
do something really dumb. What is your favorite holiday?

Speaker 2 (20:13):
And why? Text me five six six n.

Speaker 1 (20:16):
I oh, I really want to know the dumber the answer,
the better. I'm not saying you're gonna win something now,
you're not gonna win anything. Dumber the better five six
sixth n I oh, will be right. Backs of all,
I want to clarify. Apparently the Denver Grand Prix was

(20:37):
Indy car and not F one, which is a slight difference,
but a significant difference. And you guys, what I was
thinking when I said most ridiculous answers was you know,
I think you would say I like Christmas because I
love candy games or something dumb like that. You guys
are making up your own holidays, which actually has turned
out to be far more entertaining than what I had

(20:57):
initially tried. Mandy, National Donut Day. I celebrate National Donut
Day every chance I have. I mean, it does it
really have to be a day?

Speaker 2 (21:07):
Actually? I'm kind of giving up donut This is your future, Zach. Okay,
howld are you? Zach? How old are you? Twenty five? Oh?
Ho a youngster? You young whippers knapper on twice as
old as you. And then some mister, this is what
happens to you as you get older. You're like, ooh donuts.
But then you realize that you don't really just eat
one donut, You eat like nine donuts, right, so you just,

(21:30):
as a responsible adult at some point you just go,
you know what, the donut store is not for me.
I'm just not gonna go there.

Speaker 1 (21:40):
It's not gonna visit the donut store now if a
donut happens to make its way to me, right like
people bringing donuts to the station all the time. But
when you work in an office, and I know that
you're all. If you work in an office, you're gonna
know exactly what I'm gonna say next. You don't get
a whole donut because there's that person in the office
that takes that little plastic knife and cuts them into pieces.
So by like ten thirty in the morning, there's just

(22:00):
little pieces of donut left, no hole donuts.

Speaker 2 (22:03):
Because nobody wants to be seen taking a whole donut,
right well, I don't want them to think I'm a pig.
I don't want to take the whole donut.

Speaker 1 (22:10):
I'll just take a quarter of the donut and then
come back for more like six more quarters of other
quarter donuts that are in the boxes.

Speaker 2 (22:16):
I don't understand that about offices. What's the problem. Just
take the damn donut, Mandy.

Speaker 1 (22:23):
It's fourth of July, of course, and why the fourth
of July, Because there's no better way to celebrate our
nation's independence with blowing up a piece of it.

Speaker 2 (22:31):
That's what I'm talking about. Oh, this person just says
my birthday. Lol. I mean, really, that's everyone's favorite holiday,
your birthday, Sir Madam arbor Day.

Speaker 1 (22:42):
No reason down here, but somebody a little further up
on the text, Ligne said, Mandy, Arbor Day. Have to
love the day that honors would technically it's honors trees.

Speaker 2 (22:52):
But you do whatever you want to do. Mandy, this
is CJ. My favorite holiday is January fifth. Not familiar with.

Speaker 1 (22:59):
That holiday, but if apparently CJ's divorce was finalized that day,
so it's a holiday in his household. Mandy, my favorite
holiday is Sinko Demayo pronounced Sinco de Mayo Memorial Day
because I like playing horseshoes.

Speaker 2 (23:15):
Really, you know what Memorial Day does feel like the
day you play horseshoes or you.

Speaker 1 (23:19):
Play a corn hole. What's that game where you hang
the things around the you know what I'm talking about,
the three bars and you throw the thing with the
rope and you try and what is it called? Is
that like washboards or I don't know what it's called.
I'm terrible at all of those games, terrible.

Speaker 2 (23:34):
Luckily I'm not competitive at those games because I'm terrible
at those games, Mandy. Memorial Day honors veterans, value and
appreciation for our freedom. Everyone is outside being.

Speaker 1 (23:44):
Active, jets fly over, and it's not centered around food.

Speaker 2 (23:49):
Signed not a foodie. Hello.

Speaker 1 (23:52):
The Memorial Day barbecue is an integral part of celebrating
all of those things that you just said. How can
you have a hot dog of it? It's not bathed
in the jet fuel of an F fifteen. Come on,
come on, uh Honikah. It's my favorite as I get
to have all my neighbors with a bit of Jewishness
in them for the fun and retelling of stories. I

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happen to enjoy Hank as well. It's a joyful holiday
in the Jewish tradition. January second, apparently is National Stripper Day.
Don't want to know how you celebrate that, but I'm
guessing there's rain in the picture.

Speaker 2 (24:27):
Now, Like five people got that joke? Did you get
that joke? Zach? That was a good one, wasn't it.
That was a good one.

Speaker 1 (24:32):
If you didn't get it, you're gonna have to ask
someone who's a little seedier than you are.

Speaker 2 (24:35):
In your life. It has to be festivus for the
rest of us.

Speaker 1 (24:39):
Fest of Us of course, the day after Christmas, where
you do the airing of the grievances, the feats of strength,
you dance around the Festivus poll, all of that. Oh
it's Ladderball, ladderball. You were on the right track, but wrong,
Zach ladder Ball. Mandy groundhog Day, because it just keeps repeating.

Speaker 2 (25:00):
Do you know the movie Groundhog Day? Have you ever
seen that?

Speaker 3 (25:02):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (25:02):
I feel like that created the holiday to an extent. Well,
it was around long.

Speaker 1 (25:06):
Before that because Puck's atari Phil.

Speaker 2 (25:08):
That poor groundhog.

Speaker 1 (25:09):
They've been pulling him out of that hole for like
seventy years now, but that movie really cemented.

Speaker 2 (25:15):
It as a as an.

Speaker 1 (25:16):
Upper tier holiday, whereas before it was just kind of
like why.

Speaker 2 (25:19):
Are we doing this?

Speaker 1 (25:20):
It was like donut dat, Yeah, exactly what are we
doing with a groundhog Day?

Speaker 2 (25:23):
What are we doing? And I still don't know why
we have groundhog Day? Look that up, Sack. Mandy.

Speaker 1 (25:29):
I cannot well, I can't say. I cannot say what
the male Valentine's Day is called. But if you know,
you know, Mandy, my favorite holiday is National Chocolate Covered
Anything Day, which is coming up December sixteenth. And here
I didn't even know that didn't even know that, Mandy

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until the Raiders have a city court and holding jails
at the stadium.

Speaker 2 (25:55):
Eagles fans are the worst. Will not I will not
argue with that Manny. Any day.

Speaker 1 (26:02):
I can have a day off, lay in bed and
avoid extended family. So you're on your you know, you're
on President's Day, like you're on those holidays where we
have a holiday, but do we really have a holiday
because it's like, oh, yeah, the banks are closed today,
it's a holiday.

Speaker 2 (26:18):
But I'm kind of with you on that, you know what.

Speaker 1 (26:21):
I am off the day after Christmas, but I'm working
on the last day of the year this year.

Speaker 2 (26:26):
Maybe we'll do some airing of grievances then, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (26:30):
Let me give you the top ten holidays in the
United States.

Speaker 2 (26:33):
Most popular holiday. Number ten is Easter.

Speaker 1 (26:36):
When I was a kid, Easter was my favorite holiday
because we all got to go over to my nana's
house and there was a big ham. And let's be real,
if a ham is in the center of the table,
is there really anything wrong. Sorry for my Jewish friends,
you are missing out. I always you know, there's a
lot about Judaism that I admire and think is a
wonderful their traditions, their strength of family, their focus on

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education for their young people, and giving back to their community.
I love all of that stuff, but you got robbed
on pork, just robbed because.

Speaker 2 (27:10):
The delicious Easter ham. Anyway. Number nine is New Year's Eve,
not my favorite.

Speaker 1 (27:17):
It's a night for junior drinkers number eight, Halloween number seven,
Father's Day number six, Labor Day number five, Martin Luther
King Junior Day number four, Veterans Day number three for
Mother's Day, Oh, it's tied with Veterans Day number three,
Christmas number two, Memorial Day numero uno, l Thanksgiving.

Speaker 2 (27:38):
Oh. Why do we have Groundhog's Day now?

Speaker 4 (27:41):
I don't think there's any official reason, but one reason
hypothesized why it's grown in popularity, according to this one scientist,
is that with everything becoming more industrial and technologized, people
are wanting to harken back to some olden day time
when a groundhog would tell us what the weather is

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going to be instead of like a Doppler radars.

Speaker 2 (28:05):
Yeah, I mean, you know, and the groundhob's only right
like twenty five percent of the time. He's not very accurate.

Speaker 4 (28:11):
Yeah, it's for over the last decade, he's been wrong
sixty percent of the time.

Speaker 2 (28:15):
According to this.

Speaker 1 (28:16):
Art not not super good. His track record Mandy Memorial Day,
My Birthday.

Speaker 2 (28:20):
Bring back charts, you know what, guys, let's bring back charts.

Speaker 1 (28:25):
Let's prebrandom. Do you even know what charts are? Zach,
twenty five year old, Zach. Zach's a yellow start. No
charts are yard darts, Okay, And this was back in
the seventies when we were allowed to play with fire
and guns on a regular basis as children. They were
incredibly sharp and pointed, and one kid threw one over
house and it hit a little girl and killed her.

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So her dad went on a one man mission to
have charts removed from the circulation. So that is why
we don't have lawn darts because one dumb kid did
one stupid And I don't blame the father for going
after him because he's never gonna get his his you know,
daughter back. But yeah, that's that kid ruined jarks for

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the rest of us.

Speaker 4 (29:09):
I mean, kids are flying drones now, I feel like
that's a little scarier than a chart.

Speaker 2 (29:14):
At least they're outside, Okay, at least they're outside.

Speaker 1 (29:17):
Zach with you raining at a strip club. I don't
think you're allowed to touch them. That's not what that means.
That's not what that means, not at all. We'll be
right back, and when we are, we'll do something. I
just don't know what it's gonna be yet, but oh,
I know what I'm gonna do. The Twelve Days of
Christmas and the cost of a Thanksgiving meal, one somehow

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went up while they're telling us the other went down.

Speaker 2 (29:45):
I'll let you figure this out next.

Speaker 1 (29:52):
Okay, we got two different price stories that are going
in a very different direction. The first is every year
p see the bank, it does its annual Christmas price
index and they add up everything that you would have
to buy or rent or procure to fulfill the gift

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giving of the Twelve Days of Christmas, which arguably is
the most repetitive, boring song in Christmas music today, unless,
of course, you listen to the straight no chaser version,
which is very entertaining and incorporates Toto's Africa.

Speaker 2 (30:25):
So, now, if you wanted to.

Speaker 1 (30:27):
Go out and buy all the Lord's leaping, all the
maids milking, all the birds and a partridge in a
pear tree and all that stuff it would cost you?

Speaker 2 (30:36):
Are you ready for this? Zach? I want you to
take a wild guess. How much would it cost you
to buy or rent the twelve gifts that comprise the
pnc CPI this year? What would it be?

Speaker 3 (30:47):
Man?

Speaker 2 (30:47):
There's lots of birds in there, and like you said, lord,
five golden rigs, turtle doves, let's say French ten two thousand?
How much? Two thousand? That's adorable.

Speaker 1 (31:00):
That's not even gonna get you one golden ring? Oh man,
nothing shows you're a little short. How about forty nine,
two hundred and sixty three dollars? Yeah, it went up
five point four percent. Last year it only went up
two point seven percent. So if you're thinking about buying
all those things, now, if you went out and bought
this the actual amount of them that is, you know,

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because you were saying over and over and over and
over again on the song, you would spend are you ready?
Two hundred and nine two hundred and seventy two gifts
just to twelve days of Christmas avent? Okay, that's a
big number. But here let me give you this number.
Here's some different numbers for you. According to CNBC, it
is cheaper this year to feed a family of ten

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Thanksgiving than it has been since twenty twenty, which was
a very low year because of the pandemic. They say
in this article that you can provide a holiday feest
for ten people for fifty eight dollars and eight sense. Now,
I can hear all of you going what, because I
just spent nine hundred dollars a cous goo yesterday from

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my family of seven. The reality is, I'm guessing that
they just like turkey, canned vegetables, you know, box stuffing.

Speaker 2 (32:16):
That kind of thing.

Speaker 1 (32:18):
So it looks like this turkey is six percent cheaper
than last year, despite bird flu knocking out a lot
of turkeys Americans. I find this interesting or eating about
one pound less of turkey per person?

Speaker 2 (32:30):
Zach, where are you on turkey? Do you like the turkey? Yay? Turkey?

Speaker 4 (32:33):
No, turkey, It's fine, But I think, you know, people
got to figure out something to do with it, you know,
smoking it deep behind it.

Speaker 3 (32:39):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (32:39):
I don't mind the ham replacements or you know that
the lamb replace Yeah, there you go, we're doing.

Speaker 2 (32:43):
There you go.

Speaker 1 (32:43):
Well, I uh, I don't like white meat turkey. It's
like here, have some sawdust, put some grave down. It'll
be fine. But dark meat turkey I love. But that's
fine because most people like the white meat, so I
don't have to fight over the dark meat.

Speaker 2 (32:55):
When I go to someone's house.

Speaker 1 (32:56):
Certain processed foods and they land on the Thanksgiving table
are more expensive. Dinner rolls and cube stuffing are each
selling for eight percent more than a year ago. On
the flip side, sweet potatoes and whole milk have dropped
dramatically twenty six percent and fourteen percent, respectively.

Speaker 2 (33:12):
Fresh cranberry prices.

Speaker 1 (33:14):
Have climb twelve percent, reversing an eighteen percent decline in
the year before. They are the lowest since twenty fifteen.
So I guess that's what you're getting. You're getting sweet potatoes,
cranberry sauce, turkey, and nothing else.

Speaker 2 (33:30):
Eh.

Speaker 1 (33:31):
You know, But they keep saying this throughout this article.
You guys, it's so dumb. It's so dumb. Many shoppers
understandably focus on price levels the dollar value of the
things they buy, rather than those purchases inflation adjusted.

Speaker 2 (33:49):
Or real costs. The latter is the true test.

Speaker 1 (33:53):
Of affordability, since it reflects an often underappreciated piece of
the inflation puzzle and that is wage inflation. This article
says median household wages grew by almost twenty five percent
since twenty nineteen.

Speaker 2 (34:08):
Did yours cause mine didn't. I don't know who these people.

Speaker 1 (34:12):
Are that are getting these twenty five percent raises, but
good news. Even if you can't afford the twelve days
of Christmas, your turkey dinner is going to be a
lot less. What is the name of that song? Is
that boo thing? Is that the name of the song?
What does it do? A little little booth, little booth thing?
Is the name of that song? Catchy as hell gets
in your brain, It's like a little earworm. Anyway, We're

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gonna take a quick time out and when we get back,
I go. We have this on the blog today because
it broke right before the show started.

Speaker 2 (34:43):
But we have an update in.

Speaker 1 (34:45):
The Jack Smith special Prosecutor making some big decisions that
really sort of put the nail in the coffin of
the notion that those prosecutions against Donald Trump were anything.

Speaker 2 (34:59):
But we'll talk about that next. Welcomele to Welcome to
the second hour of the show.

Speaker 1 (35:10):
And as you just heard from Keenan's News, Jack Smith
Prosecutor Jack Smith has decided to end his cases against
Donald Trump. Now he did end them without prejudice.

Speaker 2 (35:21):
He asked the judge to.

Speaker 1 (35:23):
Dismiss them without prejudice, which means that in theory, Jack
Smith should he be seated again as a prosecutor after
Donald Trump Leeve's office could drag all this stuff back out.

Speaker 2 (35:35):
But let's be real. This is the guy that we
were told was Hitler a threat to democracy. Our democracy
was on the line. What he did on.

Speaker 1 (35:48):
January sixth was so untenable he had to be stopped,
and our special prosecutor was the guy to do it.
Oh and about those records he kept at mar A Lago,
different than the records that Joe Biden can everywhere, because
Joe Biden was a likable old man with a bad memory,
unlike Donald Trump, who's also an old man, but not
with a bad memory. And now Jack Smith is having

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to pick up his marbles and go home. You know why,
because these charges were all politically motivated in the first place.
They were designed for one thing and one thing only,
and that thing was to keep Donald Trump out of
the White House.

Speaker 2 (36:28):
That thing was to get Democrats reelected in twenty twenty four,
and it didn't work because the American people saw through it.

Speaker 1 (36:38):
And when Donald Trump stood up and said they are
coming after you. I am the only thing in the way,
people were like, you know what, he might be right.
There's a zero percent chance these charges will ever be
pursued again because Donald Trump can't be in the White
House again after this term. He is gone and there's

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nothing you can do about it. So I fully expect
the deep dive into everything that JD. Vance has ever
done to start right now. Did he fart in an
elevator and not tell anyone we're going after him?

Speaker 2 (37:13):
That's a war crime.

Speaker 1 (37:15):
I mean the level of absurdity that these investigations, and
I had put air investigations in air quotes, the one
sided nature of these crimes, because we already know that
multiple politicians did exactly the same thing that Donald Trump did,
only they were presidents when they did it. Joe Biden

(37:36):
was not president when he took classified documents to his
house in Delaware, in office in Pennsylvania, and wherever else
he just felt like laying him around.

Speaker 2 (37:44):
He was Vice president. Mike Pence also had classified documents
stored improperly, but Donald Trump was the only one who
was charged how utterly and completely weird. So these charges
have now been dismissed.

Speaker 1 (38:03):
I honestly think that the Alvin Bragg case in.

Speaker 2 (38:07):
New York, which was just.

Speaker 1 (38:10):
The Alvin Bragg case in New York, is the closest
thing that I have ever seen in our country to
a Banana Republic's tile like tin Horn dictator style court.

Speaker 2 (38:22):
Where you find the friendliest jury.

Speaker 1 (38:24):
You can possibly find, you find a judge whose daughter
literally works for the opposition, and then you put this
case together in the friendliest court in America and you
get a condiction for something where there was no actual victim.
I mean, that was as Banana republic as we can get.

Speaker 2 (38:45):
But at least we know that we won't have to worry.

Speaker 1 (38:47):
About Special Counsel Jack Smith now he went to the
judge in court filings and said he consulted with Justice
Department officials about whether an ongoing prosecution against a person elected.

Speaker 2 (38:59):
President might continue.

Speaker 1 (39:01):
Officials in the Department's Office of Legal Counsel, Smith said
concluded that a long standing prohibition on prosecuting a sitting
president would apply to pending cases against Trump. The Special
Council wrote that prohibition is categorical and does not turn
on the gravity of the crimes charged, the strength of
the government's proof, or the merits of the prosecution, which

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the government stands fully behind. So they have to get
approval from justices. But there's no reason why they would
not just go ahead and you know, dismiss these cases.
It'll be interesting to see if they dismiss them without prejudice,
which means that the case could be brought in the future,
or if they dismiss it with prejudice. That would be

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quite different for the judge to do. So we'll have
to wait and find out what US District Judge Tanya
Chuckkin is going to do with this from Prosecutor Jack Smith.
But Donald Trump doesn't need to worry about those charges anymore.
This text message. When the people of this country vote

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a convicted rapist and a convicted felon into the presidency
of the White House, people have completely lost their moral compass.
We've known and are taught from a very early age
what's right and what's wrong. Rape and felonies are wrong,
and those who have voted for them are lost, and
there will be a day of reckoning for them. You
know what, that would have been super cool if you'd
written it back when Bill Clinton was elected. Because Bill Clinton, remember,

(40:33):
was creditably accused of raping multiple women, not the least
of which was one day to Broadrick.

Speaker 2 (40:39):
He ended up paying eight hundred thousand.

Speaker 1 (40:41):
Dollars to Paula Jones for sexually assaulting her, while Hillary
Clinton stood on the sidelines and called them bimbos and
worked on tamping down bimbo eruptions. So this moral posturing
from people I'm assuming you're on the left, Texter, it
doesn't hold any water for me because I learned during
the Clinton administration that when somebody is a horny scumbag,

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that is a personal matter and should not affect whether
or not they get voted into the White House. So
all these palpitations now it's about, I don't know, thirty
years too late. That ship sailed when Jack Kennedy was
banging Marilyn Monroe in the White House.

Speaker 2 (41:20):
So please, I'm not going to sit here.

Speaker 1 (41:22):
And pretend that I think Donald Trump is a good
moral character.

Speaker 2 (41:26):
We've already been down that road.

Speaker 1 (41:28):
But as my friend Hazel said the other day on
the show, Jesus wasn't on the ballot, so we just
had to do the best we could and we did. So,
I mean all that moral posturing about him being unfaithful
to his wife, about being accused of rape.

Speaker 2 (41:43):
By the way, he wasn't convicted of rape.

Speaker 1 (41:45):
He was found libel in a civil court again in
New York State by a woman that had, you know,
no actual substance.

Speaker 2 (41:56):
To the case.

Speaker 1 (41:57):
But in New York you can get that. You can
get that conviction anything anytime. So yeah, I appreciate you,
Texter what you're trying to do. But yeah, that ship
sailed a very, very very long time ago. Now I
want to get into a little bit of the stuff
going on with Mayor Mike Johnston. So last week Mayor

(42:19):
Mike Johnston stepped in it so bad, so so so bad.
He said this to Denver right, more than us having
DPD stationed at the county line to keep them out,
you would have fifty thousand Denverites there. It's like the
Tieneman Square moment with the Rose and the gun right.
You have every one of those Highland moms who came

(42:40):
out for the migrants, and you do not want to
mess with them.

Speaker 2 (42:43):
He said this in response to the to the Trump.

Speaker 1 (42:50):
Administration saying that they were going to pursue mass deportations
of illegal immigrants who were allowed to walk across the
southern border by the Biden administration.

Speaker 2 (43:00):
They are not here legally.

Speaker 1 (43:02):
They are all waiting for some kind of asylum, hearing
that they can wait in.

Speaker 2 (43:06):
Their home country.

Speaker 1 (43:07):
They can come back in seven years when they have
their asylum here.

Speaker 2 (43:10):
I don't care. What we've done.

Speaker 1 (43:13):
Over the last few years is allow our country to
be invaded by a big, old group of people, most
of whom just want to come and create a better
life for themselves, most of whom.

Speaker 2 (43:24):
But unfortunately, in addition to.

Speaker 1 (43:26):
Those people who just want to come here and participate
in the American dream, we've let in masses of criminals
who are now here in organized crime gangs, terrorizing people
in apartment complexes, creating retail theft rings across the country.
They're trafficking children, they're trafficking women, and they've all walked.

Speaker 2 (43:47):
Across the Southern border.

Speaker 1 (43:48):
At the same time, we have no idea who's in
this country now either, I mean no clue.

Speaker 2 (43:53):
And that's not okay.

Speaker 1 (43:55):
We have to fix our immigration system, but not until
we secure the southern border now.

Speaker 2 (44:00):
Mayor Mike Johnston, who.

Speaker 1 (44:02):
Honestly, you guys, this I kind of I said this
to a friend of mine and they laughed so hard
that I thought, Okay, I'm going to just use this.
That conversation with denverright, was like if Opie declared war
on the federal government.

Speaker 2 (44:16):
Right, Because that's how Mike.

Speaker 1 (44:17):
Mike Johnson reminds me a little of Opie from the
Andy Griffith Show, Like he's so.

Speaker 2 (44:23):
Earnest and well meaning.

Speaker 1 (44:25):
And I truly believe that Mike Johnston believes in his
heart of hearts that what he's doing by protecting people
who walked across the southern border illegally, what he's doing
here is like God's work, right, except.

Speaker 2 (44:39):
Law enforcement officials swear.

Speaker 1 (44:40):
To protect the Constitution of the United States of America,
and we as a nation have the right and honestly
the requirement to control our borders and to control who
comes in our country. No other country in the world,
other than crappy countries you don't want to live in,
let you walk across the border and just set up camp.

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No other country in the world, none of the developed
nations do. It was absolutely insane that we've allowed this
to happen. So yeah, by the way the numbers on
this last time I saw seventy five percent of Americans
are in favor of mass deportations.

Speaker 2 (45:18):
Unless you think like the.

Speaker 1 (45:19):
Democrats did, that this is gonna be the winning issue.
We're gonna get the Hispanic and Latino vote with this one.
Guess what the Hispanics and the Latinos who came here
legally are like, WTF in whatever language they spell in.

Speaker 2 (45:36):
I mean, honestly, people that came here legally, who spent
thousands and thousands of dollars and years of waiting, they
are not in a mood to have all of these
people jump the line, not at all. So this is
a losing proposition.

Speaker 1 (45:50):
And after saying this to Denver right last week, may
Or Mike put him again, put himself again at Denver
and Colorado and right in the nation's spotlight. Now I
put the whole interview with Mayor Mike and Mark Salinger
from nine News where he tried to walk those comments back,
and this is what Mayor Johnston had to say.

Speaker 2 (46:12):
Listen to this, Listen to this quote for just a second.

Speaker 1 (46:15):
I would if Mark Salinger said, would you be willing
to go out there and protest these things? Like physically,
would you go out and protest with these people? And
Mayor Mike says, I would if I believed our residents
are having their rights violated.

Speaker 2 (46:27):
I think things are happening that are.

Speaker 1 (46:29):
Illegal or immoral or Unamerican in our city, I would
certainly protest it, and I would expect other residents.

Speaker 2 (46:35):
To do the same. Okay, call me crazy, but if.

Speaker 1 (46:40):
Someone walks across the southern border and does so illegally,
why are you not concerned about that?

Speaker 2 (46:47):
Why do you not care? Why do you not care that.

Speaker 1 (46:51):
People working under the table are suppressing wages for taxpayers
here in Colorado?

Speaker 2 (46:56):
Why don't you care about that? Why don't you care
about the constitution? Why has Mayor Mike decided.

Speaker 1 (47:02):
That these illegal immigrants are more important than Americans who
are having to pay for them.

Speaker 2 (47:07):
That's what I'd like to know.

Speaker 1 (47:10):
Game Regalt just says on the text line, Mandy, I
love that leftists are suddenly concerned about big government and overreach.

Speaker 2 (47:16):
It is ironic, isn't it. Mandy?

Speaker 1 (47:19):
Let Mayor Johnson take in as many illegals into his
house as he can hold. We will see where he
stands in a week. You guys, the day after he
came out and said this, a story broke of just that.

Speaker 2 (47:30):
A builder who had allowed an illegal immigrant to stay
in his basement in how in his house, and that
man sexually assaulted the guy's fourteen year old daughter. So yeah,
uh huh, yeah, it's just it's.

Speaker 1 (47:45):
Ridiculous, Mandy, Mayor Johnston doesn't represent me.

Speaker 2 (47:49):
He would have a.

Speaker 1 (47:50):
Civil war on his hands. Yeah, Mandy, thanks for the
great lesson. And what about ishm and two wrongs make
the right work? I'd almost forgotten. No, I wasn't letting
you know that those two things make a right They don't.
But all the more imposturing should have been back in
the nineties about Bill Clinton, but it wasn't. So save
it now, please, because we certainly haven't gotten better as

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a society, have we in those thirty years? Because Bill
Clinton taught our children that certain sex acts are not sex,
even though they are. Remember that, Remember when teenagers were
discussing how they weren't going to have sex, they were
just gonna it's just engage in oral stuff because that
wasn't sex according to the President. I mean, come on, people,

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give me a break, Mandy. I've been saying since the
days of Ronald Reagan. If Democrats think our Hispanic brothers
and sisters are going to be in lockstep with the
Democratic Party, they got another thing coming. Democrats have been
trying to kill faith and family for decades, two things
central to our Hispanic brothers and sisters.

Speaker 2 (48:52):
Amen to that, I mean amen to that.

Speaker 1 (48:55):
Denver Mayor says he's prepared to go to jail over
opposition to Trump deportations of illegal immigrants. Just logged into
this and not sure if you talked about this, talking
about it now, talking about it right now, Mandy, be
careful posting the next content with Johnston. You could be
accused of copyright theft. According to Chris Vanderveen Well, I

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give them credit and I embedded it from their YouTube channel,
so if they don't want it anywhere else, they can
do what the NFL does and block it. But I'm
just giving them free publicity. So you know, if I'd
be more than happy to never talk about them again,
I've actually just started to Uh No, I didn't put

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it on Twitter. Yep, yep, yeah, that's just on Twitter.
Twitter is doing one of the things I don't like.

Speaker 2 (49:46):
About Twitter right now, and I still love Twitter x
whatever it's called. I still love it. I will I
will never leave it.

Speaker 1 (49:55):
But they are deprioritizing stories with outside links and I
don't like that because Twitter has always been where I
go to get news information, especially on the fly. Like
if somebody is if there's breaking news, I'm going to
X right now. That is where I'm going because that
is where the breaking news is covered. And there's a
lot of linking to the stories as they're popping up.

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And now Elon Musk has been like, look, you know,
that's lazy posting, and in order to avoid being sort
of deep prioritized, you need to post something about the
story and then post the link in the first comment, like.

Speaker 2 (50:29):
You have to do on Facebook. That sucks. It absolutely sucks,
and I hate it.

Speaker 1 (50:36):
Somebody who knows Elon run that up the chain for me,
if you could, that'd be great, That would be great. Mandy,
illegal aliens are the new slave laborpool, exactly, exactly. Mandy
Johnson is just another candy ass. As as soon as
the Feds show up, he'll beg forgiveness. And this is
just another reason I am prepping my home for sale

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to get out of the state. Gregg, you're the second, Greg,
I know with two g's at the end, and if
you need a realtor ed Edprather dot com, he can
get your home sold for a price and deadline you
agree upon her, I'll solve it for free.

Speaker 2 (51:11):
Just letting you know doing that, Mandy, where is he getting.

Speaker 1 (51:16):
Money for his protest and to pay for the police
he orders to do this?

Speaker 2 (51:20):
This is the thing he said. And I want you
to hear this quote really quickly.

Speaker 1 (51:25):
More than us having DPD station at the county line
to keep them out, you would have fifty thousand Denver
rights there. I don't think they, or Mike Johnston ever
for one second thought that he was going to station
Denver Police Department, you know, units at the county line.
I don't think he ever assumed or was saying that.
He was making the point that even if they did that,

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that's only one part of it. In fifty thousand Denver
rights would show up to protest, and I say, more
power to him, just don't break.

Speaker 2 (51:55):
Anything this time.

Speaker 1 (51:56):
Can you do a protest in Denver without destroying downtown Denver?
That'd be fantastic, absolutely fantastic. I don't know, sayga, goodbye,
Governor Johnston. Oh please, Lordie please. Anyway, not documenting people
as bad policy. Those people can be exploited and they

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won't go to authorities. What a joke of these people
who think you shouldn't document people. It's bad for those
people not being documented, and they could get undercut.

Speaker 2 (52:25):
On wages as well. Ridiculous.

Speaker 1 (52:27):
I'm going to tell you guys, what's going to have
to happen in order for mass deportation to work. There's
one way for it to work. And I'm not talking
about sending jack booted thugs into communities like Denver. The
federal government has to crack down on employers.

Speaker 2 (52:44):
Here's what you do.

Speaker 1 (52:45):
Here's how you start this process. You run social security
numbers and see how many jobs each person has under
a social security number. Now, when I lived in Florida, a.

Speaker 2 (52:58):
Good friend ran a go off course. His entire crew
from Guatemala all used one social security number. But he
did his due diligence. He would run it through.

Speaker 1 (53:10):
Everify and it would come back Okay, it's a real
social security number. He would just run it again and
again and again and again. So if you want to
create a mass deportation situation, you let employers know that
you're going to start checking security social security numbers, and
if they have more than one of the same social
security numbers, they're going to be fined ten thousand dollars

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per day per excess worker on that social security number.

Speaker 2 (53:35):
They need to do it right now.

Speaker 1 (53:37):
When employers start having to pay the price for paying
for cheap labor under the table, they will stop doing it.
And when people can no longer work except in Denver
where they're given a free apartment and you know, computers
and job training and.

Speaker 2 (53:50):
All that stuff, they will go home.

Speaker 1 (53:53):
They're here because they think the roads are paved with gold.
And I know that that sounds so absurd to say that,
but I've seen interviews in the last two years where
people said, we were told the streets are paved with gold.
You know, I guess when you're living in a hopeless situation,
you will glom onto anything that sounds glorious.

Speaker 2 (54:12):
And I almost think about it like this.

Speaker 1 (54:14):
It's almost like they are the four characters in the
Wizard of Oz and.

Speaker 2 (54:18):
They've gone through this incredibly.

Speaker 1 (54:19):
Difficult journey to get here, up the yellow brick road,
only to find out that the Wizard is a lie.
And now they have to figure out what to do next.
My heart breaks for these people. But they can all
go back to their home country, wait for their date
for their asylum hearing, and then come back. At that point, Mandy,
Downtown has already been destroyed. No need for protests. I'm

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just gonna say this, The last time I went downtown,
it has looked better than it looked in five years.

Speaker 2 (54:46):
Now.

Speaker 1 (54:47):
Is it back to the glorious downtown it was when
I moved here. Not even close, but it looks better
than it has for the last five years.

Speaker 2 (54:54):
And I want to make sure that we give a little.

Speaker 1 (54:56):
Bit of credit when things finally start to go well,
let's not pile on and let's say, hey, we notice
the improvement.

Speaker 2 (55:03):
Let's have more of that, just more Mandy.

Speaker 1 (55:07):
Businesses that are employing illegal immigrants are breaking the law
to just saying, and that's how you get mass deportations done.
You go after the businesses hiring people who are not
legally here to work.

Speaker 2 (55:18):
Mandy.

Speaker 1 (55:19):
Last comment. All police officers are taken oath to honor
the Constitution of the United States. It's a conflict to
ask them to break a sacred oath.

Speaker 2 (55:27):
What an idiot.

Speaker 1 (55:29):
We will talk about whether or not he needs to
be recalled. It's a crazy thing. Don't get excited.

Speaker 2 (55:35):
It's in the beginning stages.

Speaker 1 (55:37):
But my friend Valdemar Archiletta put it on the X
dot com.

Speaker 2 (55:41):
And boy, howdie, the response was strong. We'll talk to
him next.

Speaker 1 (55:49):
Is a man who just did a don Quixote like
quest to unseat a Democrat in a highly democratic district,
but now he's found himself in the middle of a
new kerfuffle. Vladimir al Jouetta posted something on his ex page.

Speaker 2 (56:04):
And it turned into a thing. Valdemar, good to see you.

Speaker 3 (56:06):
First of all, it is great to be back. Thank
you for inviting me in low.

Speaker 1 (56:10):
Stress environments, not trying to earn vote.

Speaker 2 (56:13):
Yeah, so that's what was supposed to happen.

Speaker 3 (56:15):
The election was over.

Speaker 5 (56:16):
I was posted a nice, peaceful holiday, no more politics.

Speaker 3 (56:20):
That may not be how it's going to end up.

Speaker 2 (56:21):
So what did you post on X the other day?

Speaker 5 (56:24):
People are that well ahead, you know you think you
recently just talked about the what Mike Johnson had said
and the whole blow up from that, So I kind
of made a comment about it.

Speaker 3 (56:32):
People started talking about recall, so I looked.

Speaker 5 (56:35):
Up some information on in post digit Well, here's how
you do it. He wants to know you go, and
then that blew up on Twitter or x and so
a whole movement has now started, and I was contacted
by several people.

Speaker 3 (56:51):
Who really want to follow through with this, or at least.

Speaker 5 (56:54):
Investigate the possibility of following through with a recall of
Mike Johnson.

Speaker 1 (56:59):
You know, let's break it down for just a few minutes.
Let's talk about reasons that people would want to recall
Mike Johnston. But then I'm going to remind them of
something very important. Everything that I find horrible about Mike
Johnston's administration were the exact same things he campaigned on.
He campaigned on micro communities, he campaigned on warehousing homeless people.

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He campaigned on these things. Now did he campaign to
spend one hundred and sixty five million.

Speaker 2 (57:27):
Dollars on homeless people? He did not.

Speaker 1 (57:30):
And Valdemar and I were trying to figure out what
we have spent in Denver, and not just the city
of Denver, but education services.

Speaker 2 (57:38):
But hospital services for u SEE Health. This is a
big reason why you See Health needed that cash injection
and attacks increase, and the common sense Institute estimated in
a report from May thirtieth that between city education and
healthcare organizations, they have spent between two hundred and sixteen

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million three hundred and forty million on the response of
taking care of forty two thousand illegal immigrants that made
their way to Denver. So all, and I'm just use
the lower number, right, Well, we'll just use the two
hundred and sixteen million.

Speaker 1 (58:13):
So do you think people in Denver sign up for
three hundred and eighty something million of their tax dollars
to go to people who are either mentally illan on drugs,
on drugs, addicted to alcohol, or who broke into the
country and then got all their services.

Speaker 3 (58:27):
No.

Speaker 5 (58:27):
And this is a concern of many people in Denver,
and it's not a partisan issue. This is across the board.
People have been concerned about that. This past year in campaigning,
I've gone to tons of town halls with different city
council individuals and that the city put on. And by
far the biggest town hall I ever attended was just
about a month ago at Remington Elementary School when they

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were talking about making the possibility of making that an
immigrant shelter. Basically, it would only happen if the mayor
called an emergency and they needed somewhere to house people.
They were saying, it probably won't happen, but just in case,
we're looking at this as a possibility. And there are
several other elementary schools throughout the city that are looking
to do the same thing. But there were hundreds of

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people there from that neighborhood. And this is in the
Sunnyside neighborhood, north west denver, Ish kind of.

Speaker 1 (59:20):
Cityside is a very diverse neighborhood. It has some it
has some people there were maybe on the lower socioeconomic spectrum.
There are some areas where you have a little bit
of gentrification going on the going.

Speaker 2 (59:31):
It's a cross section.

Speaker 5 (59:32):
The southern part of it is like where the Highlands are, right,
and so it's already been gentrified. But then you have
like the northern part where it's kind of remained working class,
working class, and that's so so there are a lot
of people there, and there were a lot of people
actually there, even from the Highlands neighborhood really, but they
had heard about this happening and they were concerned, and
there were a few people there who are like, you know,

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we want to help the migrants.

Speaker 3 (59:55):
How can we volunteer, what can we do?

Speaker 5 (59:57):
And they were fine with that, but the majority of
the people there were concerned about what that was going
to do to their neighborhood and they were not happy
with the answers that the city was giving them. And
beyond that, even like back in February when we kind
of had this big surge come to Denver and it
became a big issue.

Speaker 3 (01:00:15):
I was at a.

Speaker 5 (01:00:16):
Meeting where they were and this was I think in
park Hill, Mountballow somewhere over there, and they were talking
about the when they cut back the hours of community centers.
The communities up there were concerned because they're cutting.

Speaker 3 (01:00:29):
The hours here, what are our young men going to do?
You know?

Speaker 5 (01:00:32):
Yeah, this is where they go because off the street. Yes,
if they're not going to be in the community centers,
where are they going to be? And again, these are
not Republican citizens. They are probably vast majority Democrats, but
they recognize this is a problem. What's happening is not
benefiting our community. Our community is being put second to

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take care of migrants who are coming into the country illegally.

Speaker 1 (01:00:58):
One of the most interesting commercess that I have heard
about this. I heard on a light rail train going
downtown and I was sitting behind two young women and
they were probably in their early twenties, and one of
them was Hispanic and one of them was African American,
and they were p owed that they, as American citizens,

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could not get anything from the city and they had
heard that immigrants were getting free apartments and free you know, healthcare,
computers and phones and all this stuff, and they were livid.
And I think from that perspective, when you have people
on the on the other end of the economic spectrum
who are trying to get ahead in Denver and they're like, look, dude,

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what are you know? What are we doing? Why is
everything so expensive for me? You're putting all of these
people ahead of me. So I think it really does
kind of cut across also socioeconomic lines. But as you
get to the rich liberals, those are the Highlands.

Speaker 2 (01:01:55):
Moms that that that Mike Johnson was talking about. He
was talking about Island's moms.

Speaker 1 (01:02:00):
Showing up because their lives are not directly.

Speaker 5 (01:02:03):
Impacted exactly, and that that is the demographic he was
speaking to. And I believe when he made his comments
in the Denver are to the Denver, right, that's what
he was thinking about. The base in these areas where
they're going to be okay with what he was saying
because they aren't seeing the effects affect their lives directly,
and so they.

Speaker 1 (01:02:21):
Want to make sure they can get their house cleaned
for a really inexpensive rate, and they want to make
sure that their organic produce doesn't cost mark. That's the
extent of their concern for the impact that this has.
So let's talk about the actual process for a second.
What does that look like because you just looked it up.

Speaker 3 (01:02:36):
Yeah, so work like that.

Speaker 5 (01:02:38):
This is still kind of in the beginnings of Look,
they are going to be thrown away, so you'll probably
need like thirty five thousand signatures, So you're going to
know that they can hire.

Speaker 1 (01:02:51):
I heard there's a bunch of illegal immigrants they are
available for work.

Speaker 3 (01:02:54):
Well, yeah, that would be wouldn't that.

Speaker 2 (01:02:55):
Would be ironic? It would be amazing. Help let's get
this mayor well, And the question about whether or not.

Speaker 1 (01:03:03):
It's a good idea or not we're going to talk about,
because I have mixed feelings about whether or not this
particular deployment of resources, time and energy.

Speaker 2 (01:03:14):
Is the right way to go. Can you stick around
through a break? Yes, I've got Valdimar Alcheretta.

Speaker 1 (01:03:18):
We're talking about whether a recall of Mayor Mike Johnston
makes sense, if it's a good idea, or if it's
worth it, if the juice is worth the squeeze, to use.

Speaker 2 (01:03:26):
A very popular cliche. Right now, we'll be right back.

Speaker 1 (01:03:34):
We're back with Valdemar Archiletta talking about what it might
look like to do a recall of Mayor Mike Johnson.
To be clear, Valdemar is not doing a recall of
Mayor Mike Johnston. This is a kind of an exercise,
a conversation in what that might look like.

Speaker 5 (01:03:50):
So here we're looking into the possibilities of a recall,
but is it the.

Speaker 2 (01:03:55):
Best use of resources? And that's where it gets tricky.

Speaker 3 (01:03:58):
It is because again it's going to cost money.

Speaker 5 (01:04:00):
We want to figure out how much money will this
cost financially and of course people's time as well, going
now into the holiday season, is it worth the time
of the volunteers in that we're going to be out
there collecting signatures and that to.

Speaker 3 (01:04:14):
Do this.

Speaker 5 (01:04:16):
And then even afterwards it should we be successful in
creating a recall who do we have to replace, right
Mike Johnston, And I am looking into that as well.
People have asked me, I am not going to run
for mayor, but let me just throw that out there
right now.

Speaker 2 (01:04:33):
I will not if I am nominated, but.

Speaker 5 (01:04:37):
I am looking into you know, I want to contact
some people, talk to them and see if we do
have someone lined up, because if we were to recall.

Speaker 3 (01:04:46):
Mike Johnston and then we'd get like, you're just talking about.

Speaker 2 (01:04:52):
Mayor or at least on God forbid, I mean now
in Aurora.

Speaker 3 (01:04:57):
So Aurora, my head's up. I do believe.

Speaker 5 (01:05:00):
My thought is like in a few years he's going
to run for city council in Aurora or something like that.

Speaker 3 (01:05:05):
So Aurora, just you know, he's.

Speaker 2 (01:05:08):
All yours now. MS.

Speaker 1 (01:05:10):
The problem that we have, honestly, is that Denver is
so deeply democratic. There's a zero percent chance that a
Republican is going to win in Denver.

Speaker 5 (01:05:20):
And so we want someone maybe just a step in
the right direction. So someone who's maybe a more moderate
Democrat would be great. You know, it's going to be
a step up from where we are, someone who's going
to be more supportive of getting you know, prime under
control and doing some things that will help bring business
back to Denver.

Speaker 1 (01:05:40):
Here's what I want to see that. Here's what I
think Denver needs. Not that anybody ask me, but this
is what I think Denver needs. Though the mayor has
been concentrating on getting homeless people off the streets, the
success rate of these programs and getting people into stable,
permanent housing is very low. So we are throwing good
money after bad. We have to have somebody in office

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that says we are going to be results oriented. We
are going to say to our providers, we need a
detailed account of what you've done for each resident to
get them the help that they need, the drug treatment
that they need, the alcohol treatment that they need, the
mental health care they need, and moving them towards independence
or into some kind of stable housing situation that the

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government's going to happen pay for forever, because unfortunately, there
are people that are not going to be able to
take care of themselves. And then you go to all
those businesses on the Sixteenth Street mall and you say,
we're taking the money that we've spent on homeless people
and immigrants and we're pouring it into your businesses with
grants to keep you afloat until all this is done.
They're about to destroy businesses on Colfax Avenue, which.

Speaker 3 (01:06:43):
Is stupid, but a ry that whole button. And not
just that.

Speaker 5 (01:06:46):
The people in the neighborhood's there are quite upset. I
was at another town hall. I forget the name of
the middle school over there, but kind of like Congress Park,
Capitol Hill area. They know that when this happens to Colefax,
if people who don't know out there, what they want
to do is basically make Coalfax one one lane direction

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and the other one's going to be buses and like
a little park down the middle whatever, which looks pretty
and I can I can see that, but you're going
to be pushing people off Coalfax and onto fourteenth Street,
our fourteenth Avenue, thirteenth and so the neighborhoods there are
conserved that already gotten too many, too much traffic over there.
Now that all these other traffic from Coalfax is going

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to be in their neighborhoods, it's going to make things worse.
So the businesses are upset because the people are leaving Coalfax.
The neighborhood's upset because now they're coming into their neighborhood,
so that's a mess. And they're also looking at doing
that to Colorado Boulevard, which is a mess as it is.

Speaker 2 (01:07:45):
I hate driving down Colorado Boulevard.

Speaker 5 (01:07:47):
I imagine Colorado Boulevard one lane each direction.

Speaker 2 (01:07:49):
There are two roads that I will avoid at all costs.
Colorado Boulevard is one.

Speaker 1 (01:07:55):
Park Road is the other, because oh my god, would
trap anyway Baltimore. It's a nice thought experiment. We'll see
if it goes anywhere. My concern is that we waste
a whole bunch of time and energy. The mayor keeps
his seat and is then emboldened to double that.

Speaker 5 (01:08:14):
That is something too, because you look at the likeli
of this outcome will probably be like, it's really difficult
to replace a mayor. It's really difficult to recall someone.
So what you be emboldened or is the statement going
to be good? That we made a stand? We made
a statement because I think a lot of people in
Colorado are really upset that our leadership across the state,

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whether it's the governor, the Secretary of State, are doing
all these things and no one ever pushes back on them.
And they already feel that they can just do whatever
they want because there is no pushback.

Speaker 3 (01:08:46):
So will the pushback be worth it? Or like you said,
will it make it worse?

Speaker 1 (01:08:51):
That is Baltimore Archiletta will keep you posted on whether
or not this movement gets legs Bell.

Speaker 2 (01:08:56):
Good to see you by friend. Good to see you too,
and happy Thanksgiving.

Speaker 3 (01:08:58):
Thank you.

Speaker 2 (01:08:59):
We will be when we get.

Speaker 1 (01:09:01):
When we get back, I'm gonna tell you, guys, very
very quickly, a very interesting story. It's a crazy ass
Twitter thread on Matt Gates that I read Friday night
and it is absolutely nuts, but in today's world, totally believable.

Speaker 3 (01:09:17):
We'll be right back.

Speaker 1 (01:09:23):
We got a short hour this hour because we've got
to bud. Is that one of our new ones? Oh?

Speaker 2 (01:09:29):
We got some new ones today via the talkback? Does
that hitting with the new ones? Let me hear him,
let me hear not bad? I like it. I like
that one as well. Chuck MANDIONI does not count.

Speaker 1 (01:09:52):
As an airhorn people, that's Chuck MANDIONI.

Speaker 2 (01:09:57):
Come on, people come on anyway. So so I gotta
share it with you.

Speaker 1 (01:10:01):
This absolutely whack a doodle, crazy nutball thread on Matt
Gates And why am I sharing it? To you if
it's all those things, because I read it Friday and
I was like, my.

Speaker 2 (01:10:14):
Goodness, this is crazy, but also in today's world, totally believable,
completely believable.

Speaker 1 (01:10:22):
Now I can make absolutely no firm assertion that all
of this is true.

Speaker 2 (01:10:26):
But what I did was I went.

Speaker 1 (01:10:29):
And fact checked various parts of this long Twitter thread,
right so I would just take one part of it
and I would just drop it in. I'd drop it
in the Google and this woman everywhere I thought check
was accurate. But I still can make no claims for how.

Speaker 2 (01:10:41):
Accurate this is.

Speaker 1 (01:10:42):
But it's so crazy, Like if you have popcorn right now,
pop it and let's just get going, because let me
just tell you this. She starts at the very beginning,
and I'm not going to read it. I'm just gonna
tell you what it says. I linked to it on
the blog today. You can go read the whole thing
for yourself, super long. But I've got it and I've
just got to make it, make it as.

Speaker 2 (01:11:01):
Fast as possible. He starts with Joel Greenberg.

Speaker 1 (01:11:05):
He was two and a half years into his first
term as the tax collector for Seminole County in Florida.

Speaker 2 (01:11:10):
Greenberg is a douche. He's a classic rich kid who.

Speaker 1 (01:11:14):
Goes through life lighting fires everyone else puts out. By
fall of twenty nineteen, Seminole County was a wash with
rumors about the federal investigation into Greenberg's crypto scam with
tax collector dollars. Those rumors inspired a local music teacher,
Brian Butte, to throw his hat in the ring and
challenge him in the Republican primary, and Greenberg lied.

Speaker 2 (01:11:36):
His butt off about Butte in the race.

Speaker 1 (01:11:39):
How badly he would go onto Facebook pages and accuse
the teacher of being a sexual predator by making up
fake Facebook pages and pretending to be a student of
his political opponent. He reached an apex when he mailed
handwritten letters to the administrators at the school where Butte taught,
accusing him of sexually assaulting his students. But Greenberg, though

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an a hole, is not a smart a hole, and
he did not realize how seriously those accusations would be taken.
When the DOJ figured out that they took the letters,
and they went ahead and lifted Guess who's DNA and fingerprints.
If you guessed Joel Greenberg, you guessed right now. At

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the time he was arrested by the DJ for stalking.
His phone was confiscated and this is where his real
troubles began. On his cell phone and later home computers,
police found evidence Greenberg committed damn near every crime in
the book embezzlement, drugs, prostitution, identity theft, wirefraud, crypto market manipulation,
and there was a series of messages between Greenberg and

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a seventeen year old girl discussing, among other things, their
many sexcapades around Florida and beyond. Further investigation revealed that
Greenberg had been on a Sugar Daddy website.

Speaker 2 (01:12:58):
This is where he met the seventeen year old.

Speaker 1 (01:13:00):
All in all, mister Greenberg spent about seventy grand on
hookers he met on the Sugar Daddy website.

Speaker 2 (01:13:07):
But it gets better.

Speaker 1 (01:13:08):
He paid for them with his government issued American Express
Card YEP. In August of twenty twenty, the DOJ charge
Greenberg with sex, trafficking of a minor, identity theft, and
production of false identification.

Speaker 2 (01:13:21):
Documents because he, as tax.

Speaker 1 (01:13:24):
Collector in Seminole County, had access to the driver's Licensed
Department where he got a fake ID for his seventeen
year old girl that he.

Speaker 2 (01:13:32):
Was paying for sex.

Speaker 1 (01:13:34):
Now fast forward, we are going to get to the
part where Matt Gates enters the chat. Gates and Greenberg
became acquainted at some point in the first half of
twenty seventeen, well before Joel Greenberg was charged with anything.
The first public record of them associating on a private
level comes from a picture posted to x then Twitter

(01:13:55):
on July eighth of twenty seventeen with none other than
Roger Stowe.

Speaker 2 (01:14:00):
Now the two.

Speaker 1 (01:14:01):
Became friends, but after getting arrested in June of twenty twenty,
at some point, mister Greenberg's lawyers approached Bill Barr's.

Speaker 2 (01:14:08):
DOJ with a proposition.

Speaker 1 (01:14:10):
He claims he can provide evidence that a sitting Congressman Gates,
had engaged in sex acts.

Speaker 2 (01:14:15):
With a minor. Bill Barr's DOJ.

Speaker 1 (01:14:17):
Then proceeds to open a secret investigation into these allegations,
which becomes public on March twentieth, twenty twenty one, by
The New York Times, Part two of This Tangled Web
and Oh It's about to get way more tangled. Faithful
viewers of The Tucker Carlston Show were treated to a
peek behind the DC curtain on a random Tuesday night
in late March of twenty twenty one. Earlier that day,

(01:14:40):
the New York Times had released their bombshell story about
the Gates investigation, and following Tucker's monologue, he introduced Matt
Gates and gave him the hour to.

Speaker 2 (01:14:50):
Tell his side of the story.

Speaker 1 (01:14:52):
The story that Matt Gates told was insane. It involved
a twenty five million dollar extortion, thet threat against his
father to help American hostage in Iran that would then
be paid back with a presidential pardon for Gates on
all these charges. Gates demanded that the FBI released the
tapes they had in their possession of the recordings made
by his father and interviews with his extortionist. He didn't

(01:15:15):
hesitate for a second to name the alleged extortionist, David McGhee.
Who is David McGee, a former prosecutor for the Northern
District of Florida who now worked at the prestigious Biggs
and Lane law firm in Pensacola. Now, Matt Gates was
absolutely resolute when talking about this, and Tucker was clearly
annoyed and unconvinced. And yet three and a half years later,

(01:15:38):
it seems that what Mack said was true.

Speaker 2 (01:15:41):
Let's get to those details. Bob Levinson was the man
in Iran.

Speaker 1 (01:15:46):
The official story about Bob Levinson is he was a
retired FBI agent who was contracted by a semi off
the book's CIA unit to run a covert op in Iran.
He was kidnapped from Kish Island following a meeting with
an American Future of Living in Iran that had been
arranged by a former NBC producer named Ira Silverman.

Speaker 2 (01:16:06):
Now just stay with me.

Speaker 1 (01:16:07):
So Levinson gets kidnapped in March of two thousand and seven.
His disappearance was acknowledged by George Bush in June of
two thousand and seven as concerning but no one wanted
to admit that he worked for the CIA. Unbeknownst to
anyone at that time. From two thousand and nine to
twenty eleven, the FBI was running its own covert operation
to get Levinson back, and they devised an ingenious plan

(01:16:29):
to keep the whole thing off the books. They contracted
with a Russian billionaire, Oli Deripaska to pay for the
rescue mission twenty million dollars in total in exchange for
fast tracked green cards for Derek Paska and his family
entered David McGhee. During his time with the DOJ, McGee
worked in an organized crime task force. That's how he

(01:16:49):
knew Bob Levinson, who specialized in Russian money laundering. He
became McGee became a liaison between the Levinson family and
Derek Paska, the Russian guy. There is at this point
an article embedded from the Hill dot com about how
Andrew McCabe is involved in all this, but we're gonna
skip that for now. As a matter of fact, we're

(01:17:11):
not even halfway through, so I'm gonna take a quick
time out.

Speaker 2 (01:17:13):
Come back and tell you how the CIA used Matt
Gates's dad to try and get Bob Levinson back.

Speaker 1 (01:17:20):
Oh, it's crazy. We have a break here in this hour, Yeah,
in this Oh no, we don't.

Speaker 2 (01:17:24):
Have a break.

Speaker 1 (01:17:25):
Oh fantastic, because we were done at twenty twenty four today,
so that's awesome.

Speaker 2 (01:17:29):
We don't have a break.

Speaker 1 (01:17:30):
Here we go, the FBI team gets a couple of
proof of life videos and they have a soft arrangement
in place. When the Clinton State Department steps in and
shuts the whole thing down. Something got him spooked.

Speaker 2 (01:17:41):
We don't know what.

Speaker 1 (01:17:43):
After twenty eleven, Bob Levinson, who was kidnapped in twenty
oh seven, is never heard from again. All along, the
Iranians deny they have him, so eventually the CIA gets
desperate and a handful of classified documents confirming Levinson's contract
with the CIA are elked in twenty thirteen. So now
the Iranians have proof that he worked for the CIA,

(01:18:04):
but the Iranians are not budging. The Americans aren't lying,
but the Iranians still don't care.

Speaker 2 (01:18:10):
Years go by with no more pictures or videos of
Bob Levinson.

Speaker 1 (01:18:14):
Then comes the Iran Nuclear Deal of twenty sixteen. The
Obama team had negotiated the release of four Americans being
held in Iran in exchange for the US dropping charges
against seven Iranian nationals for sanctions violations. Bob Levinson was
not one of those Americans. The American Jewish community was pissed.

(01:18:35):
They already saw the Iranian deal as a stab in
the back, but when word broke about the prisoner exchange
and Bob Levinson wasn't on the list, then he took
it as a deliberate betrayal of American Jews too.

Speaker 2 (01:18:45):
Flash forward some.

Speaker 1 (01:18:46):
More Trump takes office cancels the nuclear deal. Christine Levinson
sues Iran in US courts and is awarded one point
two billion dollars in January of twenty twenty, and in
March of twenty twenty, the US government declares Bob Levinson
legally dead.

Speaker 2 (01:19:03):
That's twenty twenty, case closed, right, Not so fast.

Speaker 1 (01:19:09):
At some point in someone of twenty twenty, a former
Air Force intelligence officer named Bob Kent claims to receive
news from his network in a rock alleging that Bob
Levinson was still alive. He says he even got pictures
to prove it. So Kent contacts David McGhee, who then
tells Kent about the last privately funded search and rescue
plan for Levinson. And that's when Kent hatches the plan

(01:19:32):
to rope Don Gates into paying for this one.

Speaker 2 (01:19:35):
Now, how did all these people know about the Gates investigation?
We don't know. The guess is someone in.

Speaker 1 (01:19:41):
The DOJ or FBI leaked that info to David McGhee,
who then told Kent about it when he was contacted Bo.

Speaker 2 (01:19:47):
We still don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:19:48):
Part three, Oh yes, part three, the Grand Plan. It
was March sixteenth, twenty twenty one, when Don Gates received
the first text message from Bob Kent about his grand plan.

Speaker 2 (01:20:01):
In exchange for Don fronting.

Speaker 1 (01:20:03):
Mister Kent's rescue mission of Bob Levinson, unnamed agents with
powerful contacts in the Biden to admin would convince the
President to give Don send Matt a full presidential pardon
on his looming sex trafficking charges, the price twenty five
million dollars. Naturally, Gates Senior was incredulous, what the world
was this man talking about. The FBI suggested that Don

(01:20:26):
meet with David McGhee wearing a wire, and Don agreed. However,
just before the meeting took place, Don requested a written
acknowledgment from the FBI on the purpose of this investigation
and meeting.

Speaker 2 (01:20:39):
Don Gates was not stupid.

Speaker 1 (01:20:41):
He worried something he said could be used against Matt
in the case they still didn't know anything about. The
FBI was reluctant at first, but they eventually agreed. The
very next day, the New York Times ran the leak
on the DOJ case against Matt Gates. Going back and
watching the touch er Gates interview again, this poster everything

(01:21:02):
he said finally made sense the FBI had planned to
use Don Gates's meeting with McGee against Matt. The quasi
immunity demanded from Don quashed that, so they leaked the
story to The New York Times and then buried the
wire tapes. McGee and Kent denied everything.

Speaker 2 (01:21:19):
They said. There was no exertion. It was a simple proposition.

Speaker 1 (01:21:23):
They accused Matt of using this to distract from his charges,
and a third man was eventually charged with wire fraud
in relation to the case.

Speaker 2 (01:21:30):
Then the FBI just drops it and pretends like none
of that happened. But at the same.

Speaker 1 (01:21:34):
Time that Don Gates was getting these messages from Kent
and McGee, Scott Adams, you know, the Dilbert guy, receives
a message from an acquaintance of his, Jacob Novak, who
works as a media director for the Israeli Consulate. This
one arrives the first Saturday before the story breaks, and
it says, Scoop, I can't report Representative Gates is the
subject of a secret grand jury probe of sex with

(01:21:56):
minors and possibly murder conspiracy.

Speaker 2 (01:21:59):
I try the choices.

Speaker 1 (01:22:00):
Charges accusations apparently very credible. Now, Scott Adams did not
bite he took it upon himself to release Novak's messages.
The Israeli consulate immediately distanced themselves from Novak's messages, but
he was not fired or disciplined.

Speaker 2 (01:22:16):
Wrap up.

Speaker 1 (01:22:17):
Joel Greenberg pleaded guilty to sex trafficking, identity fraud, wire fraud,
and a host of other charges in May of twenty
twenty one. He was sentenced to eleven years in prison,
with ten of those coming from the mandatory minimum imposed
by the sex trafficking charge. The DOJ did not close
its case against Matt Gates until October of twenty twenty two.

(01:22:37):
They never publicly acknowledged why he was not charged, although
it becomes fairly obvious once you learn that Joel Greenberg
had produced fake IDs for the underage girl in question,
so Matt Gates had no reason to think that this
girl was not of age. But of course that's not
where Matt's troubles ended. We saw the culmination of that

(01:22:58):
plotting on full display today. There are lots of un
answered questions. Who is the we that Jacob Novak rest reference.
Was Joel Greenberg running a honeypot scheme? If so, for who,
and we still don't know. We still have no idea
where or if Bob Levinson is still alive and if
there was any more money to get this guy out
of Iran.

Speaker 2 (01:23:18):
And I told you guys, it's crazy.

Speaker 1 (01:23:22):
It's absolutely nuts, And if we weren't living in the
weirdest of times, I don't think anybody would have taken
any of it seriously. But as I said, I did
not in fact check the whole thing because I don't
have that kind of time, but I fact checked various
parts of it, and the various parts I checked she
was spot on. Now does this mean that Matt Gates

(01:23:43):
isn't a scumbag? I still think he's a scumbag. I
still think that he hired women to come to parties
that were drug fueled, and he showed naked pictures of
women he had banged to fellow members of the House
of Representatives. And I just find that scummy and sleazy behavior.
Not a fan of Matt Gates. And by the way,
if you miss Matt, do you now have the opportunity
to have him do a cameo for you. If you

(01:24:06):
don't know what a cameo is, you go a two
cameo dot com and you choose who you want to
get a message from, and in this case.

Speaker 2 (01:24:13):
It's Matt Gates.

Speaker 1 (01:24:14):
And for five hundred and fifty dollars, Matt Gates, will
we record a message for someone you love or someone
you hate?

Speaker 2 (01:24:21):
I mean, depending on what your thing is. And it's
got me to think it should I do a cameo?
How much?

Speaker 1 (01:24:28):
And don't laugh you guys. When I thought about this,
there's two reasons. This past weekend at the Castlewreights star lighting,
I met a delightful woman named Monica who came to
the star lighting and searched for me until she found me, and.

Speaker 2 (01:24:41):
It was just she was so excited to meet me,
and I just thought that was fantastic. And I thought
to myself, you know.

Speaker 1 (01:24:47):
There are people out there who are huge fans of
this show, and I'm grateful for every single one of you.
But is it worth someone you love's time to pay me?
And how much is worth it?

Speaker 2 (01:24:58):
I don't know. I have to focus group this.

Speaker 1 (01:25:01):
What would you like if you have a super fan
in your house? Would you pay me your local host,
to just give him a little Christmas message like, Hey,
everybody can't wait for next year?

Speaker 2 (01:25:11):
Thank you so much? Whatever?

Speaker 1 (01:25:12):
I would say, whatever, you wanted me to say, because
I liked the idea of this for two reasons. Number One,
I love being able to give people who are huge
fans of the show like a little love, and I
like money, so those two things could go together.

Speaker 2 (01:25:25):
I haven't done it yet.

Speaker 1 (01:25:26):
I think you really have to take yourself pretty seriously in.

Speaker 2 (01:25:29):
Order to go down that route. And I'm not sure that.

Speaker 1 (01:25:33):
I take myself seriously enough as as of yet. I
don't know, Mandy, I believe Gates. I read this whole
story on x written by a lady named Mel who
is an independent investigative reporters. That's the thread that I
am that I am referencing, and there's within that thread,
and it's on the blog today at mandy'sblog dot com.

Speaker 2 (01:25:56):
Within the thread our news.

Speaker 1 (01:25:57):
Stories embedded are our various things that are part of it.

Speaker 2 (01:26:01):
That back up what she's saying. So it's crazy. Though
I read it on Friday night.

Speaker 1 (01:26:06):
I was like, this is nuts, but isn't it believable?
I mean, we have a movie called Argo, right if
you ever seen Argo, great film, and it is about
an effort to rescue Canadians that were trapped with some Americans.
They were mostly Canadians in the Canadian embassy during the
Iran hostage situation, and so many lies are told to

(01:26:28):
so many people, There's no doubt in my mind that
could possibly be. You know, this could happen just like this, Mandy.
You could definitely get at least fifty bucks per cameo.
And no, you don't have to take yourself seriously, Mandy,
Absolutely you should do a cameo offering. You should do
it for charity of some sort and that I would

(01:26:50):
definitely pay a couple hundred bucks for a cameo of you.
I'd even see more for a cameo of you of
Ross together.

Speaker 2 (01:26:56):
Oh my gosh, that would be fun. No, I'm going
to be perfectly frank.

Speaker 1 (01:27:00):
This would be my daughter's college fund, like the cameo
college fund.

Speaker 2 (01:27:03):
The cameo Q college fund is what we're gonna call
this cuz yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:27:09):
Zach market it as a positive cause. See, there you go,
there you go. This is Zach's a visionary. He's a
smart kid.

Speaker 2 (01:27:17):
Mandy.

Speaker 1 (01:27:18):
I'm the only person under sixty that listens to you.

Speaker 2 (01:27:20):
That is not true.

Speaker 1 (01:27:21):
I meet younger and younger people that listen to the
show all the time, and it shocks me every time
I do. But there you go. There you go, Mandy.
I've had three cameos done from a girlfriend. One was
Jay Peterman from Seinfeld, one was Jackie Childs from Seinfeld,
and the other was Inspector Brackenrid from The Murdoch Mystery.

Speaker 2 (01:27:38):
She loved them all.

Speaker 1 (01:27:39):
The best thing of all is the actors ticket seriously
in terms of delivery, but they also realize it's a
character and they camped it up for the audience of one.

Speaker 2 (01:27:48):
That would be fantastic.

Speaker 1 (01:27:50):
If Cody Brown from Sister Wives can do it, you
can too. But you do read my texts on the
air for free, so yeah, maybe you can get ten
bucks out of me.

Speaker 2 (01:27:58):
There you go.

Speaker 1 (01:27:59):
Do I think Matt Date's we'll be back in politics. Nope,
not anytime soon. But I do think the cu Buffs
are at the Maluay Invitational, and we're going to turn
the station over to them right now.

Speaker 2 (01:28:08):
We'll be back tomorrow. Keep it right here on KOA

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