12-12-24 FULL SHOW - The Outside Festival, Plus Let's Bring Civics Back

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
The Mandy Connall Show is sponsored by Belle and Pollock
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Speaker 2 (00:05):
No, it's Mandy Connall and.

Speaker 3 (00:11):
On KOAM ninety one FM.

Speaker 4 (00:15):
God, I want to study any.

Speaker 2 (00:20):
Free and Connall keeping sad thing.

Speaker 5 (00:26):
Welcome, Welcome, Welcome to a thirdday edition of the show.
It is December twelfth, meaning thirteen more days till Christmas,
and meaning I don't know about you, but I'm kind
of on Christmas brain already a rod? Are you fully functioning?
Are you a one hundred percent for work? So you
got a little bit of the Christmas brain.

Speaker 6 (00:46):
Oh, I cannot afford that you have it way too.

Speaker 2 (00:50):
You have it way to I.

Speaker 5 (00:52):
Think a lot of people already have Christmas brain. Yeah,
I know.

Speaker 6 (00:57):
Are you Are you going to be here Christmas week
or no?

Speaker 5 (01:00):
My other but I will be here for the thirty
first of December. And Chuck and I talked this morning.
It's going to be the Chuck and Mandy Show on
the thirty first.

Speaker 3 (01:08):
We got a big day coming up on Sunday. I
cannot have chrismas we do Big Day. We have a
huge day, Big Day.

Speaker 7 (01:13):
We koa radio.

Speaker 5 (01:15):
We are turning one hundred years old. One hundred. We
don't look at day over ninety seven, you know, not
even a little bit. Day over ninety four is what
I should have said if I was smart. Dang it,
it's an opportunity. We're going to be celebrating all year
for the next year. We have all kinds of cool
stuff coming up. But this Sunday is our big happy birthday.

(01:37):
So got a lot of stuff going on. Now, we've
got a show planned for you. But honestly, Ross just
told me something so profoundly disturbing that I don't even
know if I can go on with the show. Uh oh,
Apparently women are having plastic surgery to make their nipples
look like celebrity nipples.

Speaker 7 (01:57):
And I don't even know what to do with this.

Speaker 3 (02:00):
The meteor, I come on, now, what the hell?

Speaker 2 (02:07):
What the hell?

Speaker 6 (02:08):
Yeah, we didn't need that, wrong, Yeah.

Speaker 5 (02:10):
Yeah, and I thought it was a fake headline, and
no it was not.

Speaker 6 (02:14):
It was not.

Speaker 7 (02:14):
I I don't under I mean, I just.

Speaker 6 (02:19):
Like their faces, right, No? Nine, yeah, better the other.

Speaker 5 (02:23):
Way lower just you know, yeah, yep, I got it.
I'm a little for clipped right now. So let's do
the blog. Shall we go to twelve twelve? Excuse me, Sam,
I'm completely disbobulated. I need to go to a recombobulation
area and get recombobulated because I'm discombobulated now.

Speaker 7 (02:42):
It's all Roskeyminski's fault.

Speaker 5 (02:44):
Anyway. Go to mandy'sblog dot com. Yeah, exactly, that's it.

Speaker 3 (02:49):
Do it.

Speaker 5 (02:50):
Joe, did the guy email you who wanted that drop?

Speaker 2 (02:57):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (02:57):
I gave me your email age. Did you just send
him the drop? Okay, you got to. That would be
a really funny like text notification.

Speaker 6 (03:04):
Learn Joe's texting me again.

Speaker 5 (03:07):
Yeah, dang, he doesn't know he's texting you too. In
his defense. Anyway, go to mandy'sblog dot com. That's Mandy's
blog dot com. Look for the headline that says twelve
twelve twenty four blog the Outside Festival plus Let's bring
civics back. Click on that, and here are the headlines
you will find within tick tech two.

Speaker 6 (03:28):
I didn't know's in office out of American all with
ships and clippas and say that's going to press plats.

Speaker 5 (03:34):
Today on the blog Denver's Outside Festival has some great
bands coming well. Bringing back civics, Save universities, our citizens
assemblies the way forward Albertson's makes a bitter move. Of course,
Polus blames the ranchers. What really went down during the
Venezuelan flash mob? See you Boulder weighs its options. The
click the clock is tiktoking on TikTok Yes, government has

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made insurance way more expensive. I tell them they were wrong.
The old Guard is threatened by Trump appointees. We've got
a birthday coming up. Looking for some great Chinese food.
Fewer people bought the epic pass find the Christmas lights
in the metro zuck Bucks flow to the Trump inauguration.
John Kerrey lectures us from one of his many homes.

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Doctor Jill talks joy. The tolerant Left loves murder. Now okay,
Navy Seals, do you really nap like this? Gotta take
your fifteen minutes of fame?

Speaker 7 (04:28):
Am I right?

Speaker 5 (04:29):
Lamar Jackson goes soft, uh scrolling, get the most out
of your vacation time next year, and looking for the
perfect white elevant gift. Those are the headlines on the
blog at mandy'sblog dot com. And I need Navy Seals
in the audience to listen up, because there's a video
on the blog where this guy says how to take

(04:51):
a twenty minute power nap like a navy seal. Are
you buying this? Oh no, he said twenty minute. No,
I thought it was a twenty minute. Wait now now
I have on the bed. Yeah no, wait, let's see,
you only have oh, ten minutes, okay.

Speaker 6 (05:05):
Maybe, yeah, that's so.

Speaker 5 (05:07):
First of all, there's a zero percent chance I'm falling
asleep in ten minutes. Zero Like in my life. I
don't think I've ever fallen asleep in ten minutes.

Speaker 2 (05:14):
Oh.

Speaker 3 (05:15):
I love falling asleep quick, although I don't know the
feeling of going to sleep as quick as I do.
Almost feels like passing out, which is not really feeling
like going to sleep, like you're just out.

Speaker 7 (05:26):
I obviously have never had that EXAs Okay, well.

Speaker 6 (05:29):
No, that makes no sense.

Speaker 3 (05:29):
But I'm telling you, I'm not going to say it's
just as tiring is not getting much sleep. But when
I wake up and don't remember going to sleep, like
I just hit the bed and was gone again, it
feels like I don't really get great rest.

Speaker 6 (05:44):
So there's the other side of it too.

Speaker 3 (05:45):
I'm just saying, yeah, going to sleep quick isn't necessarily
the greatest thing I.

Speaker 5 (05:51):
Yeah, I don't know. I don't know about this. But
here here's the deal. I need Navy seals in the
audience to uh.

Speaker 6 (05:57):
Did you ask Chuck. I know he's not a he's
not a Navy.

Speaker 5 (05:59):
Seal, he's Army, so they specifically say Navy seals. So
I wanted to go to the source, alleged source. Anyway, So, guys,
and by the way, I've done this when I was
a flight attendant. Only when you're a flight attendant and
you have to wear heels, that was one of the requirements.
I don't know if it still is, but when I
was a flight attendant, you had to wear heels when
you were in the airport and you'd have a long
day of like you know, four or five flights where

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you were just working your tail off and the up
and down of taking off and landing and taking off
and landing, your feet gets so sore and I would
go to my layover hotel room and I would lay
on the bed with my kind of my butt up
against the headboard and my legs just straight up on
the wall, just so I make him feel better. And
it worked. It was good that this guy's laying on

(06:42):
the floor with his knees on the bed right, so
he's got like two right angles here. He's making a
little s and he says, just lay there for ten
minutes and you're the having your legs elevated.

Speaker 7 (06:55):
We'll make it easier.

Speaker 5 (06:56):
Because I don't know there's blood your core something something,
I'd stop paying attention, but because it immediately started saying,
well do navy seas actually do this? First of all,
I'm just asking.

Speaker 6 (07:11):
It sounds crazy.

Speaker 5 (07:12):
It does sound crazy, Mandy. I start my Christmas vacation
in two days. I'm at work right now, and I
mentally checked out yesterday.

Speaker 8 (07:20):
Vacation can't come soon enough. Right on text, in ten days,
so I hear you, Mandy. I grew up on a
dairy farm. I can take a power nap in five
to seven minutes. How do you even fall asleep that fast?
And I'm being genuine count Oh God, that's it, I love.

Speaker 5 (07:36):
It's not for me.

Speaker 6 (07:39):
I counted ten over and over and over, and by
maybe maybe the third time through, I'm out.

Speaker 5 (07:45):
No, that's not a thing unless I am going under
anesthesia and they tell you to count backwards from one hundred.
That's the only time I've ever like fallen asleep immediately.

Speaker 3 (07:54):
Honestly, what was the last time? And have you ever
really tried to count?

Speaker 5 (07:58):
Ay Rod, I've been a chronic insomniac for fifteen five years.
I have counted two thousands and thousands of numbers.

Speaker 6 (08:05):
The reason behind counting.

Speaker 5 (08:06):
Well, it takes your mind off everything else, everything and focus.
But it doesn't work for me. I just keep counting,
and then I get to like three thousand, you know,
and I finally give up.

Speaker 6 (08:15):
Don't count high, count to ten over and over.

Speaker 5 (08:18):
Yeah, it's adorable, and I appreciate what you're doing.

Speaker 3 (08:20):
But this you are beyond the ability to try one
more time, try to count. I'll try one more time,
try to count time.

Speaker 5 (08:26):
And I've tried this square breathing, I've tried white noise,
I've tried what what happened?

Speaker 6 (08:31):
I tried you sleep silent?

Speaker 7 (08:32):
Uh No. I have a fan on.

Speaker 5 (08:34):
I have a fan on, although I will say on
the on the cruise, we did not have a fan
with us, so Chuck has really bad tonightis, so he
likes to have a fan to kind of cover the
tonightis And we didn't have a fan with us, so
we downloaded the calm app and use the rain sounds. Yes,
it was amazing. I really liked that.

Speaker 6 (08:53):
It's the one we have that was I.

Speaker 5 (08:55):
Mean, it's like thirty nine bucks a month, so we
canceled it.

Speaker 6 (08:58):
Oh what, No, there's a free one.

Speaker 5 (08:59):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (09:00):
Anyway, it's great. Yeah, I forget what it's called.

Speaker 5 (09:03):
So in any case, I've tried all this stuff, but
I appreciate what you're doing. Try to share with the suggestions.

Speaker 3 (09:06):
I will count to ten, I will only ten, because
then you're focused on what's the next number, and that'll
keep you awake. So if you go to ten over
and over and over, less about the numbers, more about
getting your mind up everything else.

Speaker 6 (09:16):
I'm just saying, time world, let me tried it all.

Speaker 5 (09:19):
My monkey mind will not be dissuaded. Uh, Mandy, I
can fall asleep in five to seven hours exactly, exactly
my point exactly. Anyway, that's not what we're talking about
today on the show. So here's here's the deal. There's
not a lot of stories that grab my attention, but
we do have a couple of guests today. First of all,
Denver's Outside Festival, which started last year and was pretty

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successful for its first year. They've now they've got their
musical acts, are going to announce today. They're coming in
to talk about what's going on there. That's next June something.
Depending on your business, you may want to be a
part of going forward.

Speaker 6 (09:54):
Bedtime Fan. That is the app.

Speaker 3 (09:56):
It's free and it has rains of Bedtime Fan. Bedtime Fan.

Speaker 5 (09:59):
How do they How did they make money? Where are
the ads? You know what I'm saying, Like they got
to make money? How do they make it money if
they don't have ads?

Speaker 6 (10:06):
I just realized I was in a free trial and
that wants me to pay never.

Speaker 5 (10:08):
Oh, okay, fine, it's so great, never mind.

Speaker 6 (10:14):
Twenty dollars a year.

Speaker 5 (10:15):
Oh that's that's doable.

Speaker 6 (10:16):
Yeah, it's pretty good.

Speaker 5 (10:17):
Thirty nine bucks a month, ain't happening? Come like that,
ain't happening. And I realized there's.

Speaker 7 (10:21):
All kinds of other stuff. So there you go.

Speaker 5 (10:25):
Anyway, Mandy, when I'm tired and driving my car, I
can pull into a parking lot, lay my head back
and immediately fall asleep. Ten minutes I'm refreshed and can
drive again. Now you're just taunting me. Right now, you're
just being mean.

Speaker 3 (10:36):
I have to tend to fall asleep thirty minute power nap.
That is the magic number. I've nailed it on the nose.

Speaker 5 (10:41):
Uh, Mandy, I thought you said soda help you with
your sleep problems.

Speaker 7 (10:44):
Let me say this, My sleep.

Speaker 5 (10:46):
Problems are greatly improved. And when I was on the
weight loss portion of soda, where I wasn't eating anything
except vegetables and protein and nothing else, I did sleep
better that I sleep when I eat any kind of
like other carbohydrates.

Speaker 6 (10:59):
You're gonna say, like a baby next week, I hope so,
I hope so.

Speaker 5 (11:03):
So probably the following week. You know, it takes like
ten days to adapt your body. What you're doing now,
exactly do it?

Speaker 6 (11:11):
Do it?

Speaker 5 (11:11):
Mandy, I'm riddled with ADHD. Counting would turn into thinking
about cars and airplanes and eventually the mackarine in my head.

Speaker 7 (11:17):
There is no fast sleeping for us.

Speaker 5 (11:19):
You know what I think I've I have ADHD. I'm
pretty sure like they would have totally medicated me when
I was a kid completely and my brother and sister.

Speaker 7 (11:28):
I don't know how my parents survived at ha.

Speaker 5 (11:31):
Ha ha hardy horror, Alice Hardy. I can't even say
that's wrong, so I'll just move on. So there wasn't
a big news story today. If there is a big
news story that you think I should be talking about,
feel free to text the Common Spirit Health text line
at five six six nine.

Speaker 4 (11:47):
Oh.

Speaker 5 (11:48):
But ultimately I found some very interesting stuff today for
us to talk about. It's gonna be a little bit
of a nerdy show. Hope that's okay. But I had
the best happy hour last night with my one of
my favorite clients, David Nestor from Urban Lights. We like
to touch base with clients every so often, and we
just had the most rousing, interesting conversation about all these

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different topics.

Speaker 7 (12:11):
And I'm sure David and.

Speaker 5 (12:12):
I don't agree on things, and you know, on everything,
but we just went at this conversation with such an
open heart, right, just an open conversation about all kinds
of things. We talked about God, we talked about you know, work,
we talked about travel, we talked just all kinds of
stuff and it was glorious. And it made me realize, like,
we've got to get that back, you guys. We have

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to figure out a way to move beyond where we've
been in our culture now. I believe and I'm hoping,
Although I realized that it's probably very Pollyanna for me
to think that the Department of Government efficiency effort by
Elon Musk and vivik Ramaswami will have as much of
an impact as I want it to have. I want

(12:54):
Javier Milay style slashing of government. And there's two much
too many people lobbying against that because too many people
are profiting off government. And think about that for a second.
That in and of itself should demonstrate that government is
far too big and far too powerful at the federal level,
so we've got to cut government spending. But ultimately, I

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think that that will help the civility in this country.
And hear me out, one of the reasons that people
get so upset, so angry, so distressed about the presidential
election and the federal elections is because they have way
too much power in our lives. Whose president shouldn't matter

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all that much except in matters of war and transportation
across the country. If the government was where the founders intended,
who was president is just an administrative role, not the
sort of all powerful, you know, wizard of Oz that
they've become. So if we can shrink the size of
government and make it feel less impactful on our everyday lives,

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which in all honesty, it's not nearly as impactful as
what happens at our state government, our county governments, our
city and town governments in terms of our immediate lives.
But ultimately, if we could take away the power of government,
we would take away reasons to be so upset about it.
But having that conversation last night, I realized I miss

(14:23):
having those spirited arguments. I remember when I was a kid,
my mom was very involved in the theater, and they
would have cast parties after the last night of the show,
and they were legendary in my hometown.

Speaker 7 (14:35):
These cast parties.

Speaker 5 (14:36):
They were I mean, my friends in high school used
to ask if my mom was having a party, and
I'm like, yeah, but you can't come. But I would
sit there and here I am in high school and
I'm listening to adults argue and discuss and have spirited
discussions about all kinds of things. But now, if you're
in a room with people you don't agree with and
I have done this to myself, so I'm certainly not

(14:58):
casting aspersions on anyone else. But now you're in a
room with people that may not agree with you. I
think most people are far less likely to say.

Speaker 7 (15:06):
I disagree with you.

Speaker 5 (15:08):
Let me tell you why, because you don't want to
get into an argument. You don't want to be the
pariah in the room. You don't want to have to
leave if you're somewhere you want to be. But we
don't know how to civilly disagree anymore, and we don't
have any confidence that if we do try to civilly
disagree that the person we're trying to civilly disagree with

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would civilly disagree back. And all that's done. All this
polarization has done is allow the ruling elites to pretty
much run amok unfettered, because as long as we're fighting
with each other, they're doing all kinds of stuff behind
the scenes we are privy to, and we're not even
paying attention because we're running around talking about trans bathrooms,

(15:50):
no offense. I don't want biological men in girls' bathrooms.
But is that the most important issue facing the country
right now? Well, we're arguing about that. They are passing
another ginormous omnibus bill full of so much pork, with
the sole purpose of buying votes and ensuring donor support.

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So how do we fix this? Our elections are so tribal.
It's hard to imagine a situation where you could have
a conversation with someone who identifies on the other side
of the aisle and be persuasive, because most people don't
want to be persuaded, because at this point, to be
persuaded would mean that you have to admit you're wrong,

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and being wrong is the death now, you know, it
always kills me when I see people in the media
who just will not will not admit they're wrong. They're
incapable of saying, you know what, upon further reflection, I
am changing my tune, or I have new information and
I've changed my opinion. You know, there are certain things

(16:54):
that I'm very certain about in my belief structure, but
some of them I could be convinced. It doesn't mean
I'm on principled. It means I'm willing to listen. And
we're at the point now where we've got to do something,
like the people have to do something or the whole
thing's going to fall apart because the ruling elites are

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very invested in protecting themselves and their power, and a lot.

Speaker 7 (17:21):
Of the times to our detriment.

Speaker 5 (17:24):
So I've got a couple of things on the blog
today about civics and don't did you have civics or
social studies A rod, do you remember?

Speaker 6 (17:31):
I don't remember.

Speaker 5 (17:33):
You probably had social studies because by the time you
went to school, they had pretty much replaced Civics with
social studies. Okay, civics. I'm going to be really honest
when I say I hated civics as a kid, but
mostly because I had really bad Civics teachers who made
it as boring as humanly possible. I believe that I

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could teach Civics to maybe high school students in a
way that would engage at least some of them, Whereas
when I was in high school, I just felt like,
you have to take this class, you have to understand this,
but nobody explained why. Nobody explained why it was so
important in my life. And it's incredibly important. And the
difference between civics and why it was replaced with social

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studies is that civics is designed to create good citizens.
It is designed to create people who understand the system,
engage in the system, prepare and investigate things before they
cast a ballot, understand the privilege and gravity of casting
a ballot, and Civics taught us about the underpinnings of

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our political system in a way you don't necessarily get
in history. History is different. Civics was, here are the
principles that underpin our systems, so you had to learn
that in order to be a good citizen. They replace
it with social studies, which is softer and allows them
to play fast and loose with the way things went,
which is a lot of why a lot of you
young people believe that the United States of America is

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a hopelessly racist country built on the backs of slaves
and slaves only, and we should give all the land
back to the Native Americans. Do you think that happened
in a vacuum. It happened in our educational system. But
there is a move afoot now to bring back civics education.
I read two columns this morning in my show prep

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and they were not connected to one another, but I thought, man,
they are absolutely connected together, and I'm going to tell
you exactly how when we get back. One was just
about a Civics educator's conference where a bunch of Civics
educators got together and they were talking a lot of
these classical schools that are happening right now, and they're
actually growing where people are going to a classical curriculum.

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And I say classical curriculum kind of like if you
went to Catholic school and you're over fifty, that was
a curriculum we had in Catholic school where you learned
all of the classics. You studied Shakespeare and Chaucer and
Greek and not the actual language Greek, but all the
Greek philosophers.

Speaker 7 (20:03):
And all of that stuff.

Speaker 5 (20:04):
Because whether you like it or not, the fact that
their old white dudes doesn't change the fact that all
of that stuff are the basic foundation on which our
nation is built. So we've got to get this back
in the school. And then the second column is about
the cultural rot that has taken hold at universities and
colleges and oh my gosh, these things they are connected.

Speaker 7 (20:26):
We'll talk about it next.

Speaker 5 (20:27):
Not white people are easy to get to do those dances.
It's like we we're not good at other things, so
we just pick up on the that the chaschas Lie, you.

Speaker 3 (20:34):
Know, the crowd engagement with me is the announcer at
Colorado National Speedway Macharena YMCA.

Speaker 6 (20:41):
All of them just kills to kill.

Speaker 5 (20:43):
Yeah, I love.

Speaker 6 (20:44):
Them so much and I love them for it.

Speaker 5 (20:46):
There you go, hol When you're in a group like that,
it is fun. Yes, slide in the stands though.

Speaker 6 (20:52):
I'm working on hot to go with them.

Speaker 5 (20:54):
It's a it's a stretchs to that song. Have you noticed,
I mean, have you listened to.

Speaker 7 (21:00):
The words to that song?

Speaker 5 (21:01):
All of them?

Speaker 6 (21:02):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (21:02):
Not super appropriate for little children to be singing that song. No,
I find it when I see like little girls singing
that song. I'm like, I don't know that I would
you know, but you don't want to say to the
little girls, do you have any idea what you're saying?
Because they don't know. But at the same time, it's like.

Speaker 6 (21:17):
Oh, I mean, you have churches singing that Madonna song?

Speaker 3 (21:20):
So what yeah, pop it, don't preach, No, what's the
what's the what church is.

Speaker 5 (21:27):
Singing a Madonna song? What are you talking about?

Speaker 3 (21:29):
No, it's a trend right now. No churches.

Speaker 5 (21:35):
Mandy streaming you in Vegas on the way to our hotel.
I know how much you love Vegas. Oh, Tuton like
a prayer. They're not singing, No.

Speaker 7 (21:44):
They are not.

Speaker 5 (21:46):
Churches are singing like a prayer. Oh yeah, yay yep
ah yeah yai. Anyway, let me get back to my
serious conversation, because I do want to make this point. So,
you know, we're coming off election. A weird thing is
happening that I'm seeing on the left. After the shock

(22:07):
of the loss on election Day and the realization that
more Americans voted for Donald Trump than voted for Kamala
Harris and that the Republicans made grounds in the Senate
and the House, many people on the left that freaked
out for a bit have now just kind of settled

(22:27):
into this state of somewhat calm. And the reason I
bring this up is I feel like now's the time
to reach out. Now's the time to try and you know,
have conversations with people about challenging topics. And today I've
got two stories on the blog. One of them is
about a conference that took place after the election, a

(22:51):
week after the election, and it was just it was
the National Summit on Civic Education and it was in Philadelphia.
So the the summit theme was educators and innovators are
civics moment Now. Honestly, twenty five thirty years ago, I
would have thought, how dull is this But now I'm
beginning to see that the erosion of teaching people how

(23:12):
to be good citizens and what is involved with that
has really led us down a very dangerous path for
the future of the country. You know, remember back when
Kennedy said, ask not what your country can do for you,
but what you can do for your country. When is
the last time you thought that the American citizenry believed that?
Because it seems to me that everybody walks around in

(23:34):
this country with their with their hands out. They want
to know where their stimmy checks are. They want to
know what government is going to do for them. But
you know, God forbid you say, well, if you want
that kind of government, you're gonna.

Speaker 7 (23:45):
Have to pay more.

Speaker 5 (23:47):
They will never go for that, because it's not about
what they can do for their country, it's about what
their country can do for them.

Speaker 7 (23:53):
That attitude has.

Speaker 5 (23:54):
Crept upward, meaning that more and more people seem to
have it, and the people that still don't have it
are asking themselves much the way that John Galt asks
in iron Rand, why am I doing this? Why am
I doing the right thing? Why am I continuing to
try and work hard and get ahead when someone else

(24:15):
is going to be able to get a job instead
of me because I'm white, or I'm the wrong color,
or I'm the wrong gender or any of that stuff.
So we've got to figure this out. Got to figure
this out, this texter said. Mandy had Civics sophomore year
in high school. It included the Constitution test. When I

(24:35):
graduated from the University of Illinois, Chicago, they needed me
to take the Constitution test before I could graduate. Thank goodness,
I did it. In high school, Civics was mostly about
our rights of citizens.

Speaker 7 (24:47):
And it was an easy course.

Speaker 5 (24:48):
No math.

Speaker 7 (24:50):
There you go, There you go.

Speaker 5 (24:53):
Mandy High School Civics class, Fall nineteen seventy two, taught
by a World War II infantry veteran. My first assignment
was tovolunteer on a state or local election campaign.

Speaker 7 (25:02):
Mister Adams was one of.

Speaker 5 (25:03):
My favorite teachers and a favorite class. Learned a lot
about our founders all the way to state and local
elected positions and impact on life. That from a meal.
So that's what we've got to get back to, because
what we've got now are people that don't want to work,
they don't want to participate in the process. They want

(25:24):
to be told you to vote for, and then you know,
very tribally vote for the team they think is best
rather than really putting their mind to a big issue
to figure out who has the best solutions.

Speaker 7 (25:36):
And there's a laziness to that.

Speaker 5 (25:38):
It's easy. It's so easy to be a citizen when
you don't have to do any heavy thinking about any
of the big issues. Now. I also have an article
linked on the blog today that is sort of the
end result of this lack of civics and education, and
it is from Spiked dot com. Joel cott Can wrote it,
and I want to share just the first few paragraphs
with you. The Western world has many enemies China, Russia,

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or on North Korea, but none is more potentially lethal
than its own education system. From the very institutions once
renowned for spreading literacy, the Enlightenment, and the means of
mastering nature, we now see a deep seated denial of
our common past, pervasive illiteracy, and enforced orthodoxy. The decay

(26:20):
of higher education threatens both the civic health and long
term economic prospects of Western liberals. Civilization, once a font
of dispassionate research and reason discussion, the Academy in recent
years has more resembled that of a medieval University of Paris,
where which trials were once conducted, except there is now
less exposure to the canon. American universities face an unprecedented

(26:43):
challenge with a return of Donald Trump. His administration seems
likely to attack such things as diversity, equity, and inclusion policies,
while pushing to defund programs favorable to terrorists, expel unruly students,
and deport those who are here in the US illegally.
The loss of federal support to universities, the edocrats fear,
could cause major financial setbacks, even among the ives. Like

(27:07):
medieval clerics, the rapidly growing ranks of university administrators, deans,
and tenured faculty have grown used to living in that
what one writer describes as a modern form of manneralism,
where luxury and leisure come as of right. Universities are
likely to try resisting any changes, no matter how justified. Nationally,

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seventy eight percent of professors voted for Kamala Harris. To many,
Trump's selection represents a rebellion of uneducated. The University of
California at Berkeley blames his rise on racism and sexism.
Wesleyan University president Michael Roff calls on universities to abandon
institutional neutrality for activism in the Trump era, predictably comparing

(27:52):
neutral professors to those who accommodated the Nazis. Democracy dies,
apparently whenever the progressive monopoly is threatened. Now it goes
on from there. But the reason I bring this up
is we've created a system where you have the university
system absolutely infested with not just left wing thought, but
hard left thought, especially in the soft sciences and in education.

(28:16):
So there's no ideological diversity in the university system. And
now they have decided that, you know, the other side,
the uneducated roofs that put Trump back into office, somehow
need to be brought to I guess tame. But it's
it's such arrogance because we're sending students who don't have

(28:38):
a proper background in civics into these classrooms where they
are further indoctrinated into this left wing thinking. I know
so many parents who are, you know, nice conservative people,
and they have nice kids, and they raised them in
conservative homes and they went to church with the kids,
and the kids grew up in that kind of environment.

(28:58):
They went to college and came screaming communists. And I'm
not saying the parents failed the kids to really give
them that foundation, but I'm starting now with the que
I'm like, look, when you go to college, if a
professor says something that you absolutely disagree with, you better
push back. And I don't care if you get a B.
I don't care if you get a C instead of

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an A, as long as you're passing, I'd rather you
stand up for what's right. And yet these kids are
cout into silence, partly because professors have been known to
retaliate against students they disagree with. So when we get back,
I want to propose a solution or at least an
option that we should look at and means as a

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means to increasing the civic education overall and also perhaps
being able to figure out some solutions to big problems,
because at this stage in the game, do you trust
the experts, because I don't. I've been talking about civics
education and how we can be better citizens.

Speaker 7 (29:58):
And then on the blog I have the super.

Speaker 5 (30:00):
Interesting story about citizen assemblies and I'm fascinated by this
entire concept.

Speaker 7 (30:07):
So you may remember or maybe you've heard the quote.

Speaker 5 (30:11):
By William F. Buckley, and the quote is, I would
rather be governed by the first one thousand people lifted
in the phone book than by the faculty members from
an Ivy League university. And there's something to be said
for the wisdom of the masses, But the wisdom of
the masses cannot be measured in a pole. So in Germany,
Angela Merkel is still beloved in Germany and one of

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the reasons that she was beloved is that she governed
and led according to polling data. So if the people
thought it was you know, right and popular as she
went ahead, Okay, we're going to do that. The problem
is is that because of their hard turn to green energy,
their energy prices are now higher than any other country
in the EU. They are now without Russian natural gas.

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So one of our tour guides was telling us that
his power bill for his very small apartment had gotten
so high that it became smarter for he and his
girlfriend to fly to Thailand to live for the three
coldest months of the winter that it was for them
to stay in Germany and pay their power bill.

Speaker 7 (31:15):
Think about that for a second.

Speaker 5 (31:18):
So all of this was because Angela Merkle just followed
whatever the polls said. The people as a group not
always the best decision makers, especially when it comes to
a complex policy issue. But what about a smaller group
that is representative of the overall population in terms of demographics,
in terms of background, in terms of ethnicity, in terms
of socioeconomic status. What have you got a group of

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those people, all from different backgrounds together in a room
and said, let's work on this problem, whatever this problem is.
Because do you guys have any confidence right now in
Congress to solve the situation at the border with significant
security measures and then significant overhaul of the current in
immigration system. Because I feel like, if you've got one

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hundred citizens of the United States of America together, we
could solve that problem. We could look at it from
every angle, we could figure it out.

Speaker 7 (32:10):
We could solve the problem.

Speaker 5 (32:12):
Because we're not invested in trying to serve many masters.
We're trying to solve the problem. Politicians are trying to
serve the business community who want cheap foreign labor. They're
trying to solve the electoral from the bleeding hearts. They
want to make sure that their compassion comes through. They
have all of these competing interests except solving the damn problem.

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So there's a great article, and I've been thinking about
how to do this, like start doing it here in Denver.
The problem that I have is finding the diverse enough
group of people to cover all of these different demographics
to make sure that we're getting as many viewpoints into
the conversation as we can.

Speaker 7 (32:53):
That's my stumbling block.

Speaker 5 (32:55):
And I don't have a great way to do that,
but I would love to do this. And here's the
real problem with these citizen assemblies is what they're called,
is that even if they come up with great ideas,
getting them implemented by the politicians is where you run
into trouble. For all of the reasons that I just
said a minute ago. They all have all of these
competing masters that they have to serve, and not always

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the citizenry, if you know what I mean. You know,
but I have faith in the American people. Now I
don't have faith in one person or two people, but
I do have faith in getting people from all walks
of life, from every sort of background in a room
to say, Okay, here are the challenges that I see.
Here's what I.

Speaker 7 (33:36):
Am afraid of.

Speaker 5 (33:37):
If you can get enough people in a room and
find out what everyone's fears are, because ultimately, resistance to
any kind of changer in you know, a new situation
is just fear. It could be fear of the unknown,
fear of loss of power, fear of loss of influence,
fear of loss of wealth.

Speaker 7 (33:52):
They could be fear of anything.

Speaker 5 (33:54):
But if you can address as many of those fears
as you can, for as many people well as you can,
then that to me is a winning solution. You're never ever,
ever going to make everybody happy about everything. That is
simply never going to happen in a country where so
many of us are so different, and frankly, I gotta

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tell you, I like living in a country.

Speaker 7 (34:18):
Where everybody is different.

Speaker 5 (34:20):
It would be boring as hell if we were all
like the lego people running around seeing and everything is awesome.
I love the diversity that we have in this country.
Even when I'm in conflict with someone, I still love
the fact that we're having a discussion and an argument
from our different points of view. I would never want
to live in a country where only one opinion was accepted,

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and I actually believe that was a big part of
why the Democrats lost in this election cycle. Maybe not
a big part at a part, and that people got
tired of being told there was only one way to
be right and if you weren't on that very very path,
whatever the quote right way as determined most of the

(35:02):
time by left wingers, you somehow did not deserve to
be or And I think people just said enough enough,
So we are going to take a time out. This
is our civics. Thank you for coming to my ted
talk today about civics. I hope you take it under
consideration and maybe spend a little more time brushing up
on your civics knowledge, so instead of just you know,

(35:22):
screaming into the ether on Facebook or Twitter, you can
maybe add positive things to the conversation. That is my
challenge for you. When we get back. The Outdoor Festival
is just started last year. They're growing next year. It's
going to be in June. We're going to talk to
some of the people involved about the entertainment, some of
the other stuff you can expect, and for the certain

(35:43):
kind of businesses you may want to jump into this
while you still can, we'll do that next.

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Speaker 5 (36:14):
We welcome to the second hour of the show. I'm
your host for the next two hours. Mandy Connell, joined
of course by Anthony Rodriguez. And now we are being
joined by a man who is a part of the
Denver Outside Festival. C J Gerard is with us to
talk about the festival overall, because it's relatively new to
the Denver scene. But they had a great first year

(36:34):
last year. I think it was your first year last year,
was it, CJ?

Speaker 9 (36:39):
That's right, Yeah, last year was the inaugural and last
year being June.

Speaker 2 (36:43):
Of this year.

Speaker 5 (36:44):
Okay, yeah, but last year's festival, I've already moved on
to twenty twenty five. I don't know about you. I'm
already in twenty twenty five. First of all, tell who
what is the Outside Festival.

Speaker 9 (36:57):
The Outside Festival is a summit for the the outdoor
industry and a festival for the outdoor enthusiasts or the
outdoor curious. It's a gathering of Colorado people. It's a
gathering of people who love music, and we really at Outside.
We believe that, you know, being outdoors is a fundamental

(37:18):
part of being human and it's great for your mental health.
And that's our mission is to get everyone outside. And
so this is like the physical manifestation of the Outside platform.
And Outside is of course home of thirty of your
favorite outdoor brands, from Schi magazine and Outside Magazine to
mapping apps like matt My Fitness and Guy and trail Fork.

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So we bring all those things to life in the
park and bring last year was eighteen thousand people were
hoping to see twenty five plus thousand this year right downtown,
you know, in the shadow of the Capitol and you know,
activate in the midst of Denver, which is the perfect
place for it. You know, Colorado is an outdoor and
on its own.

Speaker 5 (38:01):
So how did this come about? I mean, how did
we decide to do this? I think it's a perfect
fit because we all know the Colorado's love being outside
pretty much more than anything else. Like that's we want
to get our dog, we want to go outside, that's
what we want to do. How did this come come
to be?

Speaker 9 (38:20):
Yeah, great question. It's It's been an idea that has
been kicked around. You know, it's not not my ideas,
it's different, different folks. Our CEO, Robin Thurston, had this vision, uh,
and we teamed up with the Office the State of
Colorado's Office of Outdoor Recreation and the director there, Connor Hall,

(38:45):
is really instrumental in all of this, and have this
vision of, Hey, why don't we do a south By
Southwest type event in Denver? And you know, I've spent
a lot of time at events. I've been in the
outdoor business for thirty years and I've been to a
lot of a lot of events in south By being
one of them, and going to south By and then

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like walking around there and actually having a map of
Denver and realizing, wow, like, you know, downtown Denver, there's
dozens and dozens of theaters within two miles, there's parks,
there's Corus Field, there's Sculpture Park and Denver Performing Arts Center.
We really have everything you need to create a really

(39:28):
large scale gathering around music and outdoor activity. And like
you said, that's Austin Colorado, right, Like, it's not hard
to imagine people wanting to show up and celebrate all
of these activities. So we took that idea, you know,
to effectively Governor Polis and Mayor Johnston, and they loved it,

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and the Office of the Economic Development Commission backed us last.

Speaker 2 (39:57):
Year a little bit.

Speaker 9 (39:58):
We're very grateful for that and visit Denver and we
sort of built a cohort of the willing, if you will,
and kicked it off. We didn't know what was going
to happen necessarily, but we estimated between five and ten
thousand people, and then eighteen thousand people showed up, you know,
and really it was a it was a beautiful weekend.
You know, we encourage families to attend. Kids under twelve

(40:23):
are free access, so a lot of families came during
the day and hung out. It was really safe and
fun environment, which is great for downtown Denver. You know,
I think downtown's got a little bit of a bad
rap right now versus the reality of actually spending time
down there. You go down there and and it was beautiful,

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you know, people having a great time, and then maybe
the kids got put to bed and they came back
for music and until ten o'clock at night, and the
vibe was just really wonderful. Yoga, you know, climbing walls, workshops,
on fly fishing, all of our favorite outdoor things in
one place. We also have a film festival that was

(41:05):
going on over at Denver Art Museum. We're going to
do that again this year. Speakers like Sean White and
Diana and Naiad, Jimmy Chin, all these kind of icons
of the outdoor world gathering in one place. So yeah,
it was it was amazing and the vision really came
to life and we can't can't wait to do it

(41:25):
again this year.

Speaker 5 (41:26):
Well, and you guys just made some announcements about the
about the entertainment. You guys have some really big bands
coming in and I you know what, here in Denver,
the only thing we love almost as much as being
outside is being outside and listening to music at the
same time. So who do we have coming to the
Outside Festival this year.

Speaker 9 (41:45):
Yeah, we're really excited, Mandy about this announcement. We have
Krungbin Lords here on Silvan Esso, Trampled by Turtles, Neil Francis, Waxahatchie,
Husband's Hazlet, and then a bunch of local bands as
well that are great. And that's you know, one o'clock

(42:06):
until ten o'clock is almost twenty hours of music. Over
the weekend. And like you said, I mean, you know
Denver loves its music, right, so we do. Yeah, we're
hoping these names and so far. You know, we launched
a pre sale yesterday and we're just seeing the tickets
fly off the shelf already. We've really priced it very competitively. Again,
the our mission to get everyone outside is we're trying

(42:28):
to make it accessible for folks.

Speaker 5 (42:30):
So the early bird tickets he was talking about are
for there for a specific credit card company, and I
just went right away from that. So the Capitol one
card holder presales going on now. But when do the
regular sales start? Because the event itself isn't until May
thirty first, it's May thirty first, in June first, so
two days over that weekend. You want to get your
tickets ahead of time, especially if you want to do

(42:51):
like the two day VIP. What is that two day VIP?
Because I got to tell you, I'm at the age
now where I don't like to be with the great
unwashed masses.

Speaker 7 (42:59):
I like to roll VIP wherever I go.

Speaker 5 (43:01):
So what do you get for that?

Speaker 9 (43:03):
Yeah? Great question, And you know the VIP ticket, the
two day VIP is is two hundred and seventy five
dollars for both days. And what that gets is your
own entrance. It gets you a lot more space. I
think that's what a lot of people are willing to
pay for, is you know you can you can get
up closer and you're not kind of packed in. Last year,

(43:24):
certainly the VIP area, it was just a lot more spacious.
No lines for food, no lines for drinks. You know,
all of those things are are expedited. You've got nicer
bathrooms and so you're viewing is kind of the number
one thing, right, You've got much better viewing from the
VIP area. We also have like a special gift for

(43:47):
you know, you got some some bonuses that we're still
working out now, but you know they and you get
your own line to get in as well, so you
don't have to wait and let you know, you skip
all the lines right and you're you're among you know,
folks who are really like the die hards I think too,
but really want that space.

Speaker 5 (44:05):
So general admission tickets for both days early ninety nine dollars.

Speaker 7 (44:08):
I think that's pretty amazing.

Speaker 9 (44:12):
Yeah, that's the early bird and I would would emphasize
that for your listeners that you know, there's a limited
amount of early bird tickets, so okay that once those
are gone and you know we're going to announce the
public sale goes on tomorrow at ten am, and once
those are gone, they're gone, and then the price will
start to go up right right all the way to

(44:34):
the UH to the events itself. Right, So if you're
if you want to take advantage at ninety nine dollars,
like I would definitely jump on it.

Speaker 5 (44:41):
And ninety nine dollars for a two day festival is
really very very very reasonable, just so across the board,
super reasonable at this stage of the game. So hats
off to you guys for keeping those ticket prices that
low for people U c J.

Speaker 9 (44:53):
Gerard.

Speaker 7 (44:54):
With the outside.

Speaker 5 (44:55):
Festival, it's shaping up to be something magical and I'm
sure it's going to be. So if you want to
get your early bird tickets, I put a link to
their website on my blog today so you can go
ahead and get those. CJ. Thanks for making time for
us today. And it sounds like you are gearing up
to have an absolutely spectacular festival this year.

Speaker 9 (45:13):
Yeah, we hope, so thank you for having me, Mandy.
I think it's going to be an amazing gathering for
Colorado for the outdoor industry. We also have this on Friday.
There's also another event I neglected to mention called the Summit,
which for those those listeners you've got out there who are,
you know, curious about the outdoor industry or work within it,
then we're going to have amazing speakers who are going

(45:35):
to come to that, including some CEOs of some of
the biggest brands. And that's a that's kind of a
business to business and you can go on to the
Outside Festival dot com and learn more about that there too.

Speaker 7 (45:48):
All Right, C J. Gerard, thanks for your time today.

Speaker 9 (45:52):
Thank you really appreciate it.

Speaker 5 (45:54):
Man, all right, I have a great day. That is
that's super cool. And there's it's more. I got a
text message a bunch of bands I never heard of. Well,
there's a lot more with that if you are an
outdoor enthusiast pretty much across the board. What I find
fascinating is they're gonna have these conversations with elite athletes.
I love listening to anyone who's really really good at

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something talk about how they got really really good at it.
So though I would never be a you know snowboarder.
I'd love to hear from Sean White and hear what
he is. So that's the part that interests me, are
those conversations going forward. But you can find out more
about that on the blog at mandy'sblog dot com. Now,

(46:37):
I just saw something on Twitter, just like I did yesterday,
and uh, well, I'm gonna actually I'll get to that later.

Speaker 7 (46:44):
Because other stuff on the blog.

Speaker 5 (46:45):
I keep doing a massive blog every day and then
not getting to most of it. So let me get
to some of the stuff on the blog that I
have not gotten to in the past couple of days.
You know, there's a big kerfuffle going on right now,
and we talked about this right after it happened, but
the kerfuffle is not going away. Jared Polis, when speaking
to the Colorado Conference of Counties, essentially blamed ranchers for

(47:10):
the high cost of wolf reintroduction and when pushing back
on them asking for a delay in reintroducing more wolves,
he essentially said, look, it wouldn't cost as much if
certain groups had a lobby did not get wolves from
Wyoming or Idaho, and now we have to go to Canada.
And he said, as long as the law is the law.

(47:32):
We have to reintroduce the wolves. Now here's my question.
Does the lodgers say they have to reintroduce the wolves
or do we have to maintain a wolf population? And
the part of find especially galling about the governor blaming
the ranchers for the high cost of this program is
his husband is a complete and total animal activist, not

(47:53):
just an animal lover an animal activist, those are two
different things. So we know that Marlin, his husband, the
first Gentleman, will not ever walk this back. Although I
find it interesting that an animal rights activist wants the
little baby cows to get slaughtered by wolves, but whatever,
it's fine. At least I guess it justifies that somehow

(48:13):
do we get to eat the cows the wolves kill.
I'm never mind, never mind. So we know that regardless
of what's going on, there's no way Jared Poulis would
have put a pause on this because it would create
a problem in his marriage. But to shift the blame
to the people who are now having their livestock eaten
just shows the contempt that the governor has for the

(48:35):
ranching industry and the contempt he has overall, I think
for the ranching industry, and I think a lot of
that stems from his husband probably being in his ear
all the time. And I think Jared Polis is so
focused on upgrading and improving his national image that he's
letting the masks slip.

Speaker 7 (48:56):
Here in Colorado.

Speaker 5 (48:58):
He's not going to be elected anything Colorado unless they
can talk Johnhick and Hooper into stepping down. That he
doesn't want to be Senator. He wants to be president.
So he's not running necessarily for our votes because he
knows the Colorado, being a blue state, is going to
go forever the Democratic candidate is and by the time
our primaries happen, it won't matter because it will already
be decided. And in doing so, he is now just

(49:20):
tolerating his duties and his constituents in Colorado. That's the
way this appears. But man, it is created quite their
kafuffle and definitely exacerbated the feelings from the rural communities
that they are forgotten and unimportant and not really a
part of Colorado anymore.

Speaker 7 (49:39):
So that's been kind.

Speaker 5 (49:40):
Of fascinating to watch, really fascinating to watch, and I'm
not sure anything comes in and it'll be a kerfuffle
for a little while longer. But you know, like I said,
he's not running for reelection. When he runs for president,
he'll have to run nationwide because it won't matter when
he gets here. So really, do we matter to him anymore?
I don't think so. So I feel bad for the ranchers.

(50:07):
We spent a tremendous amount of money that could have
been spent elsewhere bringing these wolves back in so they
could kill livestock. I got to tell you, I hope
the ranching community pursues payment for these deaths and just
bankrupt the system. Absolutely bankrupt the system by demanding payment
for anything that is killed by a wolf. That's what

(50:29):
I would do, But I'm passive aggressive, and sometimes people
aren't as passive aggressive as me. The clock is ticking.
It's tiktoking a rod on TikTok. See what I did
there in the clock is tiktoking on TikTok. TikTok has
until January nineteenth to either divest from their parent company,
Bike Dance, which is more than likely controlled by the

(50:52):
Chinese Communist Party, even though they say they're not. I
mean the reason I think that is because you can
see the Chinese Communist hands up the guy's back because
you're saying we're not controlled by the Chinese Communist Party.
I did a puppet thing right there. In case you
say this is where we need a camera, you could
have seen my puppet thing. We don't know if this
is gonna happen right now. By Dan says no, they
are not, and if they did, they probably would not

(51:16):
give up the algorithms that make TikTok go, in which
case it would be far less functional, far less useful.
And who's gonna buy it? The only people that could.

Speaker 7 (51:27):
Afford to buy it are tech.

Speaker 5 (51:29):
Companies, which would then face increasing scrutiny from regulators as
they are being looked at to be busted up already.
Who else is going to buy TikTok? Elon Musk and
you think they're gonna let him buy TikTok, you've lost
your mind. That would be the worst thing ever if
Elon Musk. But if Elon Musk bought TikTok, I will
be on TikTok tomorrow. I'll be like the TikTok queen.

(51:53):
If Elon Musk bought TikTok. But I just refuse to
let the Chinese communists into my home and my phone,
not doing it. Not doing it, Mandy Jared Polish should
be focusing on the new shortfall in Colorado has such
misappropriation of how much money and Mayor Johnston did he
ever pay them? The so called budget shortfall in Colorado

(52:18):
is because government has spent way too much money on crap.
This should not be spending money on full stop.

Speaker 7 (52:25):
So any poor mouthing that you're.

Speaker 5 (52:26):
Gonna hear, we're gonna have to cut We're only gonna
cut pre school teachers, and we're gonna cut police officers,
and we're gonna cut libraries, and we're gonna have to
close the state parks. No one else will be if
that did. But we're gonna have to balance the budget
the hardest possible way on the public. Not that it matters,
because they're just gonna keep leving new fees on us,

(52:48):
fee after fee after fee after fee, which are actually
tax after tax after tax after tax. But that would
be a clear violation of taper anyway, Mandy, not eating
beef will not play well for police in the Midwest,
even if he checks me protected group box to run
for president. That's a fine point. A really fine. Point,
didn't even think about that. Mandy, the rancher should pin

(53:11):
pol Us down and force him to eat the veal
from the dead baby cows. Wow, that's harsh, that is
super I never really advocate for somebody being held down
and forced to eat something gross.

Speaker 7 (53:24):
That's a little too revenge of the nerds for my taste.

Speaker 5 (53:26):
I'm I'm, I'm yeah, Mandy ug thanks for the image
of Governor Polus and his mate Pillow talking on wolves.
I didn't say it was pillow talk. You did that
to you. I didn't do that to you. You can't
hold me responsible for what your mind does, mister or
missus mis Mandy, Mandy cam so many others do it.

(53:49):
Go for it, trust me. This is an ongoing conversation. Ok, well,
we won't even go into that on the air. I'm
not gonna do a Howard start to complain about stuff
behind the scenes on the air. I'm not going to
do that, not today anyway. Why does police sate ranchers?
Is he a vegetarian? His husband is a vegan and

(54:10):
an animal rights activist all caps capital animal capital rights
capital activist, So I don't know if he eats meat
or not. I can't imagine he would, because it's one
thing to be married to a vegan that's like a
small V vegan and they're like, I just don't eat
meat because I don't feel good when I eat meat,
or my klosterol is too high or whatever. And then

(54:30):
there's the big V vegan that's like, if you eat me,
you're eating murder, to which I respond, murder tastes pretty
freaking good, doesn't it. Thank you Dennis Leary for that one.
Mandy Poulis has never been Colorado's governor, just Denver, Boulder,
and Summit Counties. Secondly, his husband is not in his ear.

(54:51):
Why wouldn't he His husband be in his ear? Just
like doctor Jill is in Joe Biden's ear. Probably Millennia
is in Trump's ear. Why wouldn't he be in his ear?
What do you think people talk about, especially politicians? Their
whole life is politics. Mandy, I'm confused. You say you're
not on TikTok, but many of the videos you post

(55:12):
on your blog or TikTok videos. What gives? That's a
rod's fault. He's the TikTok kid fault. Fault fault when
you're not here I just go to YouTube and find
other videos videos. I didn't complain.

Speaker 7 (55:24):
This texter did have fault.

Speaker 5 (55:26):
Fault. It's a Rod's responsibility. How about that? Much better
blame him anyway. Polis is such a McRib You mean
a delicious sandwich that McDonald's only trots out every so often,
so people freak out about it and they get a
bunch of pre publicity. That's Polis. I don't know. Wow,

(55:47):
you guys are making a lot of inappropriate jokes at
the governor's expense that I will not be sharing at that.
I'm not doing that. I guess does the governor give
a speech at Max Fund? Every I love MAXI Fund.
I think what they do is amazing. So I don't
know if governor does or the first gentleman does.

Speaker 7 (56:08):
I'm not sure.

Speaker 5 (56:10):
I'm pretty sure polists serve veggie burgers at a Cattleman's
Association dinner. Some veggie burgers are good, some are not.
I'll have to leave it up to you to figure
that out. But some of them are downright gross. Where's
other words, are kind of delicious. When we get back,
the old guard in DC is very threatened by some
of Trump's appointees. We'll get to that after this. Donald

(56:33):
Trump has been very quick to make appointments and to
various agencies. And today there is a column from Realcleardefense
dot com by a person who goes by Citizen Soldier,
and in it he or she makes a phenomenal set
of points about the people that Donald Trump is nominating
and how threatening they are to the old guard in DC.

(56:58):
Did anybody else see that? Now people are calling for
Mitch McConnell to resign because he had another fall and
hurt himself. And this is like four or five times
he's taken a header and you ended up with a
black eye and whatever. This one happen to be in
the Senate lunch room. And a lot of people who
do not like Mitch McConnell and I'm gonna be frank,

(57:19):
I'm not a fan of his are now saying he
should step down. He should step down. I'm telling you
that guy's going out of the Senate toes first. He
will never step down, even if he's like one hundred
years old. But what we're seeing with the Trump appointments
are bringing in of the next generation. Lee Zeldon, forty

(57:40):
four years old, for EPA Administrator Pete Hegseeth forty four
years old, Secretary of Defense Cash Mattel forty four years old,
FBI Director Tulca Gabbard forty three Director of National Intelligence.
This is a new generation of people coming into these positions,
and the old doesn't like it because they liked the

(58:02):
way things work now. They don't want younger people with
new ideas who refuse to go along with the same old,
same old that so many people have going along with
for so many years. In Washington, DC, they are very,
very threatened. Let me read this talking about JD. Vance
in this as well. Vance was labeled weird during the campaign.

(58:23):
Gabbert isn't equipped to be DNI. Patel hasn't built up
the muscles to lead the FBI. These are all the
criticisms that are being levied. Heg Seth is a performative person,
just a personality, somebody without the management know how to
lead the pentagon. Last week, as allegations against Pete Hegseth mounted,
the names of Governor Ron DeSantis and Senator Jony Ernst,

(58:44):
prominent Republican gen xers, mysteriously appeared in the news stream
as if alternatives to if Hegseth drops out now that
I'll stop because Pete Hegseth went to Capitol Hill, who's
been going from Senator to senator drumming up support for
his nomination, And to a person, you guys, every person
that I know that has recently retired or is active

(59:06):
duty is so excited about the potential of Pete hag
Seth becoming the Secretary of Defense because he served. As
a matter of fact, all of those people, Jade Vance,
Pete hag Seth, Lee Zelden, Tulca Gabbard, they all served
during the War on Terror. They all volunteered to put
on the uniform and protect this country. They served in

(59:28):
Iraq and Afghanistan. Patel prosecuted criminals associated with Al Qaeda,
ISIS and other terror organizations. I mean, these are the
people that I want in charge of these departments because
they don't just sit in Congress and make decisions to
send other people's sons into war.

Speaker 7 (59:47):
They signed up to go for us. It's not that
you have.

Speaker 5 (59:51):
To have military duty, but I give more gravitas to
those who have. First of all, because they're such a
tiny part of the population. I think last time I
saw less than two percent of the population of the
United States serves in the military. Now less than two percent,
and that's kind of shameful. And it's getting harder and
harder because now young people are too fat, they're too

(01:00:13):
out of shape, they can't pass the physical or they've
smoked so much pot that they can't pass the you know,
drug tests, or.

Speaker 7 (01:00:20):
They have a criminal background.

Speaker 5 (01:00:21):
These married reasons that people cannot serve in the military,
but they all did. So it's been fascinating to watch
the sort of you know, mud slinging that is going on.
And I refuse to put Matt Gates in the same
category as these four people that we're talking about right now,
because Matt Gates resigned from Congress so he did not

(01:00:43):
have to face the outcome of an ethics investigation into
whether or not he paid young women for sex. That
is why he stepped down. That's the only reason he
stepped down. Do not believe that crap about I need
to give Florida time to film my seat. It was
absolute garbage. He did it get out of that House
ethics investigation. So why shouldn't these people be elevated? Why

(01:01:06):
shouldn't these people step up? Do you really think Pete
Hegseth is not going to have people around him that
can help him get his feet under him when it
comes to running the Pentagon, and maybe as a former soldier,
he'll be able to say, what about the massive waste
that I saw while I was deployed? Because every person
I know that's been deployed, says Mandy, you would not
believe the amount of waste on equipment that happens on

(01:01:26):
a daily basis. Somebody served in IRACT told me that
they were getting ready to shut down their operating position
and instead of move all the equipment out, they dug
a hole in the desert and shoved it all in.
I mean, it's crazy, and he knows this. That's the
guy went in charge of the Pentagon. I want the

(01:01:47):
guy in charge of the Pentagon to be the guy
who says, do we really need to put our men
and women in harm's way for this particular cause? Because
he knows what that commitment means. Lindsey Graham can sit
in the Senate all day long and talk about how
we need to send more people boots on the ground
to various things around the world, while he sits in
the Senate and does it pete, hegseeth. He knows what

(01:02:09):
that means to send people into combat. He understands the
ramifications of that. So yeah, is he perfect? Of course,
not the perfect people. I guess we're all busy. I
don't know of those perfect people. But what a fascinating
thing to see how threatened the old guard is by
the new guard, and that they will throw everything against

(01:02:31):
the wall in an effort to have it stick so
they don't have to give up their power positions or
god forbid, work with people who ask difficult questions about
why they do the things they do, which we need
to have happen. I read a story this morning that
Christopher Ray, who announced yesterday we had it in the
news here that he was going to be resigning as
head of the FBI before the end of the Biden administration.

(01:02:53):
And I'm like, good riddance to bad rubbish, Bye bye, Chris.
Don't let the door hit you where the good Lord
split you. But then I read today that he is
now promoting all of these kind of deep state parts
of the FBI into power positions, so they're deeply entrenched.
But by the time cash Btel takes over, I don't

(01:03:13):
think it's going to matter. I think Cash Btel is
going to go scorts to Earth. And if I were
one of those people at the higher levels of the
FBI who has been intimately involved with shenanigans that have
occurred at the FBI, lying on PEISA warrants, going after
American citizens, maybe even spying on journalists without their opinion
or without their permission, I would be looking for another job.

(01:03:37):
But I'm proactive like that. I mean, you've got to
see the writing on the wall. But maybe they will,
maybe they won't. Christopher Ray certainly did. There's no doubt
that Christopher Ray will make gobs and gobs of money
on the speaking circuit and sitting on boards of companies
that want to have a little, you know, a little
panache on their board when they go to a bit
for a contract. He's going to be just fine. But

(01:03:57):
I want him to be just fine out of government
because this particular administration, the Biden administration, there's so many
people I'm so glad I'm never gonna see again. I
hope I never see Pete butt Edge judge again. I mean,
if it comes down to a battle of gays in
twenty twenty eight between Jared Poulis and Pete Boteedge Edge.

(01:04:18):
I hope Polis wipes the floor with Pete boot Edge Edge, Yes,
like if we're doing gay on gay campaigning, I hope
Polis wipes the floor with them. Because talk about a
guy that was elevated with absolutely no experience.

Speaker 7 (01:04:32):
He was the mayor of a medium sized.

Speaker 5 (01:04:34):
Town in Indiana and they put him in charge of transportation.
So any of the kind of stirm and drawing coming
from the Democrats over these appointments, I really don't care.
I want them to have their voices heard, but I
don't care when you're telling me that you confirmed all
of these people in the Biden administration, some of which

(01:04:57):
were absolutely unqualified to do their job. Please don't come
at me now they're not qualified. Well, it didn't matter
when you were eyeing the mayor of North Bend, Indiana
or wherever he's from to lead the Department of Transportation.
You didn't care about it then because while he was gay, right,
we needed a gay guy we had to meet, We

(01:05:17):
had to round out the roster of the diversity BINGO card,
and he fit that category perfectly. It's it's it's a
very interesting time to be alive, and it's going to
be fascinating to see these Senate confirmation hearings. I do
think that these visits to the Hill, where people are
going and taking the initiative and trying to drum up

(01:05:38):
support is the right way to go. Funny story, though
none of the Democrats will meet with Tulci Gabbard, the
good news is is that they don't need any Democrats
to pass these appointments. They just need no or no
more than than Susan Lisa Murkowski and Susan Collins. The

(01:06:00):
main can defect, but they have patting. They have three
extra senators and jd Vance's tidebreaker vote, So it doesn't
matter that people are like, I'm not going to be
with Teltia gabertt well, you don't matter this time. Democrat
senators you kissed don't matter. This is one of those
stories where you know, I never try to assume negative intent, right.

Speaker 7 (01:06:24):
I generally go with.

Speaker 5 (01:06:25):
Incompetence as a reason rather than negative intent or some
kind of concerted effort to torpedo his nomination for the
Secretary of Defense, he said, and has been open about
the fact he applied to West Point and was accepted
to West Point to be part of the class of
two thousand and three, and he chose not to attend

(01:06:47):
West Point. And you guys, that happens more often than
you think, because West Point and all of the military
academies are very very strict, and if people just want
to go have a normal college experience, that's not where
you do it. And I don't think there's anything wrong
with that. West Point isn't for everyone. He turned it down,

(01:07:07):
and then a reporter published a story a couple of
days ago saying essentially Pete Hegsath lied about being accepted
to West Point. So in response, Pete Hegseth published his
acceptance letter from West Point and basically it was like
how you like me now? And now the West Point
has come out and said that their Office of Public

(01:07:28):
Affairs mistakenly told the reporter not once but twice that
heg Seth had not never applied or been accepted to
West Point, but apparently no one checked. Now could have
been malicious. I don't know. I wouldn't be able to speculate.
I don't have nearly enough information to cast dispersions. There
are members of Congress who are asking for that information now,

(01:07:52):
But it really could just be in competence, and incompetence
could be as simple as misspelling someone's last name, you know.
So yeah, there's a lot. Knives are out for Pete
hag Seth in a big way, mostly because if he
becomes the Secretary of Defense, all of the woke crap
that has been going on in the Department of Defense

(01:08:15):
for so long now, prioritizing wokeness over readiness, it will
end immediately day one, as it should, is you what,
one hundred percent end immediately because it's stupid. Our military
should be focused on one thing and one thing only,

(01:08:35):
creating and building the finest fighting force in the world
at full stop. That should be the only thing they
care about. And if there are women that can do that, great,
If there are straight people that can do that, great,
If there are gay.

Speaker 7 (01:08:48):
People that can do that, great.

Speaker 5 (01:08:51):
But you shouldn't be promoting, advancing, or even admitting people
based on an immutable characteristic. You should be doing all
of those things based on merit. So that's what I'd
like to see. A return to Mandy people complaining that
Trump is only nominating loyalist He's nominating people who want

(01:09:14):
to do what the people want to drain the swamp.
Another analogy is pruning, and sometimes you need to completely
cut back a bush to make it grow back stronger.
We need to prune the top leadership of FBI and
Justice to rid us of the political people and keep
the people who actually make the organizations work. I agree wholeheartedly.
But to the point, if you're Donald Trump and you

(01:09:35):
started twenty sixteen with this kind of pie eyed look
like you're going to bring in all these outside people
to shake things up in DC, and we all know
how that went. It did not go well. So give
it to Donald Trump and that he learned from his
first term.

Speaker 7 (01:09:52):
He is not going to sit around.

Speaker 5 (01:09:54):
With people that he does not have a very clear
understanding that they are on his side, that they believe
in what he wants them to do, and that they
will execute it to his wishes. And I see nothing
wrong with that. And by the way, what do you
think every president does? Do you really think they're trying
to assemble a kitchen cabinet with people from across If

(01:10:17):
there's ever been a kitchen cabinet with people from across
the political spectrum, it is Donald Trump's. You've got RFK
Junior in there, You've got Tolci Gabbard, who until very
recently was a Democrat. You've got so many women in
this administration being nominated to very high positions. I think
the whole Trump is a misogynist thing is out the window.
But I would one hundred percent a point loyalist because

(01:10:40):
you found out last time whoever's in charge not only
has to try and do very unpopular things, they are
going to have a bureaucracy and a bureaucratic institution that
is going to work against them the entire time. So
you better have people with backbone, you better have tough people,

(01:11:01):
and you better have people who understand the mission and
are willing to execute it. And they're gonna be Trump loyalists.
Who else is going to do that for you? So
I have I have no problem with that at all.
We're gonna take a very quick time out when we
get back. I think I have enough for let's do

(01:11:21):
a two minute drill today. I got enough stories here
for the two minute drill. And I haven't talked about
John Carrey for a really long time because who cares?
But can we talk about John Carey for a minute,
because man, he's insufferable we'll do that in the next hour.

Speaker 1 (01:11:36):
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Speaker 2 (01:12:03):
The two minute drill at two.

Speaker 6 (01:12:05):
Hey, we're gonna go to too minute warris.

Speaker 2 (01:12:07):
Rapid fire stories of the day that we don't have
more time for play. Let's call this so we'll take
longer than two minutes?

Speaker 3 (01:12:15):
Are you?

Speaker 2 (01:12:16):
Here's mandycuddle?

Speaker 5 (01:12:18):
All right, my friends. The Albertsons and Kroger merger is off.
A judge blocked it, offering a permanent injunction, and rather
than wait to see if a higher court would overturn
that to allow this ginormous grocery store merger to goes true,
Albertson's goes scorts to earth. In a surprising move, They've
now sued Kroger, seeking six hundred million dollars in termination

(01:12:41):
fees as well as billions of dollars in legal fees,
and Kroger said, well, after reviewing our options, we're not
going to pursue a merger with him at all now.
In the lawsuit, Albertson says the Kroger didn't do enough
to make the merger go through, and they.

Speaker 7 (01:12:58):
Are scorned and angry. This is kind of wild, but you.

Speaker 5 (01:13:02):
Know, Albertson's needed Kroger more than Kroger needed Albertson's, that's
for sure. What's going to be very interesting is what
happens next with Albertson's, which is the parent company of Safeway,
a store that operates across Colorado. They are in a
mountain of debt, their prices are already higher than competitors,
and now their big chance to get out of a
lot of that debt has dissolved, and instead of trying

(01:13:26):
to fix it, they burned the bridge into a billion pieces.
So there you go. Not sure what's going to happen now,
but wouldn't it be ironic if, in an effort to
prevent a monopoly, we actually put Albertsons in a position
where they end up closing stores across the country, which
would create a monopoly in many areas. We'll see how

(01:13:46):
this all pans out, it too, So I'm doing this
next story just so I can say I told you so.
During a panel about affordable housing, a group of experts
argued the lack of affordable housing in Colorado was because
of poor planning resulting in fewer housing options, especially the
need to accommodate people with lower incomes. Now, what is

(01:14:08):
the part that I want to do when I told
you so on It's this part from the Denver Gazette.
It says, quite simply, we became a mnemic to housing
development over the last thirty years, although migration has fallen
off a cliff, which is extremely concerning. This from one
of the experts, he said, we made some bad forecasting errors.
We thought millennials might kind of bridge the mold and

(01:14:30):
just want to rent forever and.

Speaker 7 (01:14:32):
Never have kids.

Speaker 5 (01:14:33):
That was obviously a poor decision back when millennials were
coming of age and everyone was saying they're going to
do it different than everyone else. They're never going to
buy a house. They're always going to live in cities,
and we can rely them to reinvigorate the urban cores.
I said, they don't have kids yet. When they have kids,
they're going to move to the suburbs and buy houses.

(01:14:54):
And guess what happened. They had kids, and they moved
to the suburbs and bought a house. I don't know
how housing X did not see that coming. You know,
it's easy to look at a macro group of people
and kind of figure out how they're going to behave
And quite frankly, stages of life go like this. The
younger years you want to be in the center of
the action because you don't have kids. When you have kids,

(01:15:14):
or you decide you want to start building wealth, you
move out of the city where you can afford more
of a home. It's this cycle of life. I don't
know how they missed.

Speaker 2 (01:15:22):
That, but I did not go to drill it too.

Speaker 5 (01:15:27):
Good news Epic pass holders who are super salty about
have to stand in super long lines last year during
ski season, Veil Resorts has announced that their sales of
the Epic Pass, which are now over for the twenty
twenty five season, had actually declined by two percent.

Speaker 7 (01:15:44):
But before you get upset and apt to.

Speaker 5 (01:15:46):
Cry a river for Veil Resorts, know this their revenue
increased four percent, so you'll have a few less people
to struggle through the lines with. But never worry, Veil
Resorts is still making as much money as humanly possible
and provide a ski experience for as many people as
humanly possible.

Speaker 2 (01:16:03):
As well too.

Speaker 5 (01:16:07):
Uh, this is kind of interesting and I'm wondering what
this means in the long term. But you're not going
to believe who donated a million dollars to the Trump
inauguration fund. Now, the inauguration is paid for by private
donors for the most part, and lots and lots of
people donate a lot, a lot of money, and sometimes
it can be viewed as an apology, which in this

(01:16:28):
case it just might be. Because Meta, the parent company
of Facebook and CEO Mark Zuckerberg, just donated a million
dollars to President Donald Trump's President elect Donald Trump's inaugural fund.

Speaker 2 (01:16:41):
Now.

Speaker 5 (01:16:42):
Uh, this was a couple of weeks after Mark Zuckerberg
traveled to Florida and dined with Donald Trump at his
Mar A Lago estate. Trump has been very vocal about
being upset about the way that companies like Meta acquiesced
to democratic demands for censorship, not only during the COVID pandemic,
but all so around the twenty twenty election. We already

(01:17:02):
know that the results of Hunter Biden's laptop story were
suppressed by social media companies at the behest of the president,
or rather the Joe Biden campaign. So did Mark Zuckerberg
see the light or is he just making sure he's
greasing the right wheels because he knows he's going to
have to deal with President Trump.

Speaker 6 (01:17:22):
I don't know.

Speaker 5 (01:17:23):
I don't know the answer to this, but I do
know that Facebook is still banning and kicking people off
for stating conservative and right wing opinions, so it's not
quite changed as much as it needs to.

Speaker 9 (01:17:36):
It too.

Speaker 5 (01:17:37):
Yesterday, if you were listening to the show, I talked
about the fact that Obamacare and government mandates were a
huge part of the increase on healthcare costs, And in
the Denver Gazette today there's a column by Hank Brown
that says the exact same thing, only with a little
more detail, and he talks about the fact that if
we really want to bring a healthcare costs down, we

(01:17:58):
need to get those mandates out of these policies. Because
a fifty five year old woman like me doesn't need
maternity coverage, a hopelessly straight and morning person like me
doesn't need gender reassignment coverage. I don't need these things.
I shouldn't pay for these things. And if we can
strip a lot of this stuff out and go back
to the plans that basically covered major medical only, Oh

(01:18:19):
my gosh, health insurance costs would plummet, but will never
do that because they need to protect the health insurance
company's ability to stay in business. And so here we are,
it'll probably never be fixed. So this is our hated
words new normal when it comes to health insurance. Until
we can inject real and I mean significant, real reforms

(01:18:40):
into the system, it's it's just going to continue.

Speaker 7 (01:18:43):
To keep going up and up and up and up.

Speaker 5 (01:18:46):
Last story, if you're looking for awesome Chinese food, I've
got great news for you. Yelp released it's top one
hundred Chinese restaurants in twenty twenty four from all over
the country. We've got six right here in Colorado. Now,
if you're like me, you like two different styles of
Chinese food. I like New York Chinese food that's the

(01:19:09):
super cheap, super greasy and delicious Chinese food. But I
also like really authentic Chinese food. So we've got both
of these things covered in this list. But if you're
looking for a great place to have Chinese food, just
go look at the article that I linked on the
blog today, and that, my friends, is your two minute trail,
so that was a lot. I'm kind of out of

(01:19:31):
breath right now. I'm not gonna lie uh when we
get back. We talked earlier in the week about the
CU Boulder fraternity story had six young men that they
initially thought had gotten some tainted drugs they were in
the process of they believed overdosing. But as it turns out,

(01:19:52):
these six scamps weren't doing drugs.

Speaker 7 (01:19:55):
I mean they were, but they weren't doing tainted drugs.

Speaker 5 (01:19:57):
They just drank themselves into oblivion.

Speaker 2 (01:20:02):
This is one of my.

Speaker 5 (01:20:05):
Super pet peeves, and it's something that I talk to
my daughter about now because at some point she's going
to go to college and at some point she's probably
going to be drinking.

Speaker 7 (01:20:15):
You know, I'm I'm not going to assume.

Speaker 5 (01:20:17):
That my daughter is never going to pick up an
alcoholic beverage. I think that's ridiculous. But we don't talk
enough about how easy it is to drink yourself to death.
And I looked at the stats yesterday. Over fifteen hundred
college students a year die in alcohol related incidents. Some
of them drink themselves to death, some of them get
in drinking and driving accidents. But it is a significant number.

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I think that a lot of these deaths could be
avoided simply by having real conversations about the repercussions of
excessive alcohol consumption. We're going to get into this a
little bit because Ceaboulder is in an interesting position right
now because this particular fraternity had already been kicked off campus.
They have no official relationship with the school. So when
we get back, we're gonna kind of talk about that

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for a little bit. I also have a bunch of
other stories that we're gonna get to. It's gonna be
a very busy last thirty eight minutes. Forty eight minutes.
I wish I could do math better.

Speaker 7 (01:21:11):
I'll be right back.

Speaker 5 (01:21:12):
SeeU Boulder where six young men nearly drank themselves to
death and the you know, paramedics had to be called
and the kids are all okay now, though one of
them apparently it was very questionable about whether or not
he was going to survive. So, uh, CU Boulder is
a little bit at a loss here because CAPA Sigma

(01:21:33):
was expelled from the Interfraternity Council back in twenty fifteen
due to safety and welfare violations, but they are still recognized.

Speaker 7 (01:21:42):
By the national charter.

Speaker 5 (01:21:43):
They still have a national charter from National capa Sigma.
At some point you've got to say no more. And
if I'm capasigna national and this happens, I mean, think
about the liability that they would be facing if even
one of those young men had died. Because because if
I'm a parent and my grown child even goes and

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gets so blotto drunk in some fraternity situation and dies,
I'm suing the crap out of everybody, absolutely suing the
crap out of everyone. So yeah, the reason I bring
this up is partly because this is something we don't

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talk about enough. And here's the thing, you guys, there
were situations in college where I drank way more than.

Speaker 7 (01:22:31):
I should have. I really did.

Speaker 5 (01:22:33):
I had situations where friends got so drunk that there
was a question about whether or not we needed to
take them to the hospital. But luckily their body is
helped out by, you know, having them hurle everywhere.

Speaker 7 (01:22:45):
So I get drinking culture.

Speaker 3 (01:22:47):
I really do.

Speaker 7 (01:22:48):
I went through it.

Speaker 5 (01:22:49):
But knowing what I know now, especially because as I've
gotten older, I have seen people that I care about
who were those party people in college who never got
over that party people think kill themselves with alcohol over time,
kill themselves trying not kill themselves, meeting suicide. But what

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people don't realize is that you can get to a
point where physically your body cannot live without alcohol. And
people have died in detox. And when you see that
happen to someone that was the party person in college,
you think to yourself, Wow, that how does that go?

Speaker 6 (01:23:27):
Now?

Speaker 5 (01:23:27):
I was a party person in college, but I don't
want to say I outgrew it, but I kind of
outgrew it. I learned how to be responsible. I learned
how to drink responsibly. And now at this stage in
my life, I'm not a big drinker at all. I
barely drink. I rarely drink because it keeps me from sleeping.

(01:23:50):
But I just want to bring this up because if
you've got kids in college, or you've got kids about
to go to college, please have these conversations with them
and don't have them in that scolding.

Speaker 7 (01:23:57):
Don't you ever do this?

Speaker 5 (01:23:59):
You need to say, you need to understand that kids
die every year at college from drinking. And not only that,
don't even get me into the sexual assault numbers. It's
estimated that for all of the sexual assaults that occur
on college campuses, about seventy percent of them involve alcohol.
It lowers your inhibitions, it makes you make bad decisions,

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and it's just it's not a smart.

Speaker 9 (01:24:24):
Thing to do.

Speaker 5 (01:24:24):
Now, what's interesting is that fewer young people are drinking
than ever before. A lot of them are smoking pot,
but few were our drinking. I mean, I went to
school in the late eighties. You guys. We had a
bar in Tallahassee that offered four for one on Thursday nights,
meaning you got four shots of liquor for the price

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of one.

Speaker 7 (01:24:48):
They came in a solo cup.

Speaker 5 (01:24:49):
A Rod's laughing right now, Oh yeah, four for one,
Clyde's four for one, and they had a dentist's chair
in the back of Clyde's where you could lay back
in the dentist chair and they would pour shots down
your throat.

Speaker 2 (01:25:00):
Yep.

Speaker 5 (01:25:00):
I mean, so I get it. I understand it. I
understand the drinking culture, but it's dangerous. This texterter said
that happened to two roommates of mine from cu They
were twin sisters and both died about ten years apart
from damage from alcohol.

Speaker 9 (01:25:17):
It is.

Speaker 5 (01:25:19):
It's bad news. I'm I'm not gonna sit here and
say that, you know, if you're a drinker, you should
switch to pot. But so far, the negative ramifications apart
pot are not as bad yet as the negative ramifications
of alcohol. And I really do believe that. I do
think that people can also drink responsibly, maybe have a

(01:25:39):
glass of wine with dinner, or a couple of glasses
of wine, and have a perfectly fine life. So I
don't put everybody in that same bucket. But you don't
get to know if you're going to become an alcoholic
while you're in college. It just kind of happens. And
that's the shame of it, really is. So we're gonna
take a quick time out. When we get back, Joel

(01:26:00):
from Regen Revolution is going to be in. There's some
super cool stuff happening in regenerative medicine. We're going to
talk about that next. So in the meantime, stick around.
We've got news, traffic, and weather coming your way. Keep
it on KOA. Rachel from Regen Revolution and my favorite
provider at Regen, Reto Patel, is with us by phone. Hi, Reto, Hey,

(01:26:22):
how are you doing.

Speaker 7 (01:26:22):
I'm doing great.

Speaker 5 (01:26:23):
Rachel's here in studio, and we're talking about giving the gifts.
Should we say beauty and rejuvenation? Is that what we
should say?

Speaker 10 (01:26:30):
You can say that. We're calling it gift and lyft.

Speaker 5 (01:26:35):
Regen Revolution is where I go for my regenerative therapies
and my joints. They have changed my life with that.
I think I've talked about that a million times. But
now they're doing some stuff that is super cool and
not completely non invasive. So tell me, I've had it done.
I'm a true believer. Tell people about this m phase

(01:26:57):
thing that we did. Oh she's not talking. I was
asking you, Rachel, Oh you're asking.

Speaker 11 (01:27:05):
So the company who makes these machines is called BTL
and they are a European physiotherapy company who's developed these
technologies to strengthen muscles very fast and to help stimulate
the body, to build collagen and elastin, all non evasively,
all naturally.

Speaker 10 (01:27:23):
Not a single injection is needed.

Speaker 11 (01:27:25):
And these treatments are very fast and very effective and
long lasting. And once you do a series, it's usually
four or six treatments. You do a maintenance treatment maybe
once or twice a year after that, and so you
know we're running a special for the.

Speaker 10 (01:27:41):
Holidays called Gift and Lyft, which is for the.

Speaker 11 (01:27:44):
Face specifically, But this same technology we're using in our
office for body sculpting as well as muscle atrophy as
well as strengthening the pelvic floor to address the urinary incontinence.

Speaker 10 (01:27:57):
And sexual dysfunction.

Speaker 11 (01:27:58):
So it's pretty remarkable technology and it's easy for people to.

Speaker 10 (01:28:04):
Adopt because it's just non invasive and we do do Can.

Speaker 5 (01:28:09):
You kind of address the underlying structure of the face
how this stuff works because one of the things as
you get older, it's not just about losing fat or
having fat show up, It's really about underneath and that's
kind of what this addresses from the outside, which is amazing.

Speaker 12 (01:28:27):
Yeah, definitely. So yeah, as we get older, what happens
is we lose a lot of relaxin and collagen fibers
in our face, in our skin, So that's where we
start getting the wrinkles, we start getting muscle or fat
atrophy in our faces because we're losing the fat, Our
teek phones are dropping an overall texture. Skin is getting
thinner and more elastic. So what happens is with the technology,

(01:28:52):
it is sending high intensity electrical pulses into the face
to help tone up the muscle fibers, which strengthen the
fibers in the muscles and brings up the two bones
the muscle muscle structure, and also can help decrease the fat,
especially like when we have like that, you know, turkey neck. Yeah,

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it really helps melt almost almost melt the fat in
the tin and bring up that skin so it's not saggy,
and increase the collagen fibers and the elasticity of the fibers.
So it's not something that we're injecting and that injection
will melt away and go away. This is actually changing
the structure of your face. So that's why, as Rachel said,

(01:29:37):
the results are longer lasting.

Speaker 5 (01:29:39):
The results are absolutely ridiculous. So I underwent the face
procedure and I didn't think I had much of a
turkey neck until I did this, and then I was like,
oh my god, I did have a turkey neck. And
now it's gone, and they're like, wow, this is I mean,
this is kind of like it's almost it feels like

(01:29:59):
something from the few.

Speaker 4 (01:30:00):
Right.

Speaker 11 (01:30:00):
Well, there is nothing that addresses that skin underneath the neck,
so it's it's surgery or.

Speaker 10 (01:30:06):
There was a thing that we It came around on
the market.

Speaker 11 (01:30:10):
If you know, maybe like five years ago, but it
took like what seemed like a billion injections into that
fat pad and it didn't even really work that well.
This is natural, it's not invasive, it's extremely effective, and
it's the only thing.

Speaker 10 (01:30:24):
That gets rid of that.

Speaker 5 (01:30:25):
And I just want to point out, guys, you are
far more likely to get the turkey necks and women
are and it can.

Speaker 2 (01:30:31):
It can.

Speaker 5 (01:30:31):
It can get rid of that second neck, that second
chin that you've got hanging down there.

Speaker 7 (01:30:36):
It works that well, It works that well.

Speaker 11 (01:30:38):
Yeah, you guys can see my before and after picture
and Kayla has her before and after picture on our
Instagram page. We just took those after pictures last week
because that's after four weeks of treatment.

Speaker 10 (01:30:49):
And that's it. I'm gonna keep doing it. But it
works great.

Speaker 9 (01:30:54):
Now.

Speaker 7 (01:30:55):
We two you were over there.

Speaker 5 (01:30:56):
You handle most of the regenerative stuff, and I wanted
to ask you, what, because you've been doing this for
many years now, what are some of the things that
are happening now with the regenerative therapies that you guys
are doing. Because I've got people in the audience, they
probably have joint pain. They've heard the commercials, maybe they've
been thinking about it, But what is happening because this
field is moving so fast.

Speaker 12 (01:31:18):
Right, Yeah, it definitely is a lot of research behind it,
a lot of studies. The technology just keeps getting better.
The protocol that we fall in our clinic is very
up to date. We use a great regenerative like a
Orange Shelley product that has a bunch of science and
studies to prove its efficacy of it and what patient's

(01:31:39):
results are with extra subjective and objective data as well.
And then a PRP that we use which is platelet
rich plasma. It's coming from your own blood, so since
it's the product coming from your own body, there's no
adverse reactions with it. So what we do is we
dry your blood just like a regular blood drop. The
small amount of blood about tentemus take blood. We've spent

(01:32:00):
it in our specialty centrifuge. It separates the red blood
cells from the plasma and the platelets. I like to
call this part liquid gold because it's just yellowy substance
and it is gold. We inject that right into whether
it's the knee, the rotator, cuffs and maniscus wherever the
injury is even resorted, we do it into the phase here,

(01:32:21):
so there's in it actually will help regenerate that area
and heal the area along with increasing information and then
the long run, improving your function of the joint.

Speaker 5 (01:32:32):
So now I got a lot of questions already on
the text line. People can text at five six to
six nine.

Speaker 4 (01:32:38):
Now.

Speaker 5 (01:32:38):
The first one was what about threading for turkey neck?
The difference there is that threading is still invasive, and
threads break, they break, So that is not a perfect
solution by a long shot. I have friends that have
had a disastrous situation with threading where they went through
the whole procedure and it only lasted like six months
and then a thread came on and everything just booth

(01:33:02):
right back down because you're not addressing any of the
underlying issues.

Speaker 11 (01:33:05):
That's true, and I was actually at a well I
was on a webinar a few weeks ago with some
plastic surgeons on the webinar talking about that there's a
new set of CPT codes that they're trying to get
approved for the procedures that they have to do to
clean up threads and to clean up the residue that

(01:33:25):
fillers have left behind so they can.

Speaker 10 (01:33:27):
Do a facelift.

Speaker 11 (01:33:27):
So a lot of people want to kind of do
these fillers and threading to put off a facelift or
push it out when you might need it. But this
one doctor said, he, you know, opened this patient up
and had to close her back up without doing anything
because there was so much filler in her face that
he couldn't actually perform the procedure.

Speaker 2 (01:33:48):
And me too.

Speaker 7 (01:33:49):
It's true that filler is cumulative.

Speaker 12 (01:33:51):
Right, yeah, so you'll definitely see pictures of people, you know,
let's say people have been doing filler for ten fifteen years.
The filler will in the face and so if you're
seeing pictures of these people, you can see their face
slowly changing and not the best way. And the filler
can move as well, so it can migrate into areas
that you don't want, such as into your you know,

(01:34:13):
china tavvys, into the eyes, et cetera. And that is
not where you want your siller, that's for sure.

Speaker 5 (01:34:18):
Somebody just asks, first of all, I have Rachel and
Reto from Regen revolution on. If you want to make
an appointment, you can do so at three oh three
I've got this text asking who are you talking to?
Three oh three two nine two ninety nine ninety two
somebody else ask does this procedure work on under eye bags?
So what happens with that? Because the pads are lower,
they're on your This procedure, you guys.

Speaker 7 (01:34:38):
Is so weird, it I mean, am I wrong?

Speaker 5 (01:34:41):
It's not. It doesn't hurt, but it's so weird because
it's like your face is exercising. Yes, that's how it feels.
It's the strangest thing I could. I can't stop laughing
because like zaps.

Speaker 7 (01:34:52):
Your faith and your face says like this.

Speaker 5 (01:34:54):
I mean, I took a million videos of myself having
this done because it made me laugh so hard, just
like having my face do this. Anyway, But how does
it work on under eye on underie backs?

Speaker 7 (01:35:05):
It works?

Speaker 11 (01:35:06):
I mean by contracting the muscles, the sagginess goes right.

Speaker 10 (01:35:11):
And so the muscles in your face. There are hundreds
of muscles in your face.

Speaker 11 (01:35:14):
They are very fine muscles, so it doesn't take much
to make them bulk up. I guess it will, and
to lift the tiny little muscles. And so by doing that,
any sagging, whether it's around the gels or under the eyes,
or the nasal labial fold or the turkey neck or
even the lines on your forehead. When you start to

(01:35:36):
activate the muscles underneath, those things go away because of
the musculature.

Speaker 10 (01:35:41):
Is the structure underneath the skin.

Speaker 7 (01:35:43):
Again, here's the.

Speaker 5 (01:35:44):
Question and reach you. Maybe you take this one? Can
you use this in pelvit organ prolapse? And we're talking
about the what's the what's the pelvic floor one called?
Which one is that? And am selling? Okay? Does that
help with pelvic organ prolaps? Which I I don't even
know what that is to tell you the truth?

Speaker 12 (01:36:02):
Yeah, yeah, definitely. So what happens with organ prolapse is
what happens is like the vaginal canal or the uterus
will start to prollapse out of the vaginal canal. And
the reason for that is because the pelvic floor muscle
that we have isn't strong to keep everything up. So
this especially happens with women that have history ectomy. You
took this giant organ out right and your belly that

(01:36:24):
is supporting all these things, and now the other muscles around.

Speaker 9 (01:36:27):
It get weaker.

Speaker 12 (01:36:28):
So what happens with the mceli chair is you come
in and sit on a chair and it actually will
contract that pelvic floor muscle. So many women have heard
of keegels. Right after you have a baby, we do
keegos or public floor therapy. This is going beyond that.
It's when you do a session. You're doing about eleven
thousand kegles at one session, which is about twenty to

(01:36:50):
thirty minutes strong session. And so doing that with kegels
in a short amount of time really bulks up that
pelvic floor muscle. So it can help with any kind
of your pro labs when it's utern pro labs or
vaginal can now prolapse. And it can also help with
the bladder and seeing your bladder and helping with incontinence.

Speaker 5 (01:37:10):
I got to tell you, first of all, I feel
like I'm excellent at sitting on that chair, like I
might be a professional at sitting on the chair. It's
the easiest treatment you've ever had in your life. And
it works.

Speaker 10 (01:37:22):
It works.

Speaker 5 (01:37:22):
I mean, it really really really works. So I testify
on that one, so one hundred percent. So what are
the specials now? I've got people send in the text
and saying what are the Christmas promotions?

Speaker 11 (01:37:35):
So we have the gift and lift special which is
twenty five percent off anything that has to do with
the M Face. And if you buddy, like a lot
of people will pair the M Face with the M
sculpt or the Msella, you get twenty five percent off
any of that stuff if the M Face is incorporated
with those packages.

Speaker 5 (01:37:52):
I've also been telling people in our spots that we
do that if you have money in your HSA and
your FSA, if you've been living with joint pain, make
this week the week that you call and get in
and see if you can spend some of that money
before the end of.

Speaker 7 (01:38:04):
The year getting your joints taken care of.

Speaker 10 (01:38:06):
Absolutely.

Speaker 7 (01:38:07):
It truly is that simple.

Speaker 5 (01:38:09):
If you want more information, weill Medicare cover the turkey neck.
These are entirely elective things, right correct, Yeah, They're entirely elective.
So the answer is no, Medicare will say live with
your turkey neck that you don't have to take advantage
of this. This this is a guide. Does it take
care of h spots or liver spots? What does it

(01:38:30):
do for your skin? If anything?

Speaker 11 (01:38:31):
So, what we do in our office with the regenerative
products that REACHO was talking about earlier, we can use
PRP or even some of the Wharton's jelly products to
micro needle into the skin alongside these.

Speaker 10 (01:38:45):
So the m face will lift the face and give
it more structure.

Speaker 11 (01:38:51):
And then we have other regenerative treatments to couple with
that to handle the surface appearance of the skin, like
age spots, fine lines, just overall texture, roseatia, things like that.

Speaker 5 (01:39:03):
I get asked all the time. It happened on the
cruise ship. Actually, I was singing along with disco songs
and some of the Canadians that we met said, how
do you know all the words to these songs? I'm like,
these are the songs in my childhood. They said how
old are you? And I said I'm fifty five, and
They're like, we want to do what you do? I
do it all, Regen Rep, I'm not kidding. I mean,
I've done all the things that Rachel just talked about.

(01:39:24):
I've done my face already.

Speaker 10 (01:39:26):
That's why it looks so good.

Speaker 5 (01:39:27):
I'm a big believer in this. So it works. Mandy,
here is the question, Mandy, could the pelvic floor one
the chair take the place of the O shot for
sneeze and tinkle.

Speaker 11 (01:39:41):
That's a great question, and what's interesting is the doctor
who invented that O shot procedure now recommends that you
do it alongside and mcella treatment.

Speaker 5 (01:39:50):
I got to tell you the mcella treatment, I would
just try that by itself.

Speaker 10 (01:39:54):
I would too.

Speaker 11 (01:39:55):
I mean, the thing is that oh shot works great.
I mean I think everyone in this room has done
so we can talk freely. But I think it does
work great. But there's a big barrier there for a
lot of people just after that procedure, and the effects
of the oshot aren't necessarily as lasting as the effects
of the Unsella treatment.

Speaker 10 (01:40:16):
And strengthening your pelvic floor.

Speaker 11 (01:40:19):
One of the most common symptoms of a weak pelvic floor,
other than urinary incontinence, is low back pain, and so
that will you strengthen your pelvic floor in your low
back pain gets better too.

Speaker 5 (01:40:30):
And with the if you do the core to floor
program that they have, they also do one on your
the m sculpe on your midsection. It's like doing twenty
five thousand sit ups in one treatment. And that's another
one that let me tell you, you think you're tough,
they'll rack that thing up to one hundred and you're like,
oh my god, oh my god, they don't have to
put it one hundred though, you still get great results

(01:40:51):
without it being somebody else read you this one for you.
Can they treat diastasis recti in men and women? I
don't know what that is.

Speaker 12 (01:41:01):
That is definitely something that it potentially can. I would
say a consultation would be needed to look at the
severity and get an examination of that area. But we
can definitely look at doing end scope to help increase
the muscle mass in that abdominal area to help with that.
But yeah, I would say for that specific one, a

(01:41:21):
consultation would definitely give us.

Speaker 3 (01:41:23):
A better answer.

Speaker 5 (01:41:24):
And last question before I let you go.

Speaker 11 (01:41:26):
We two.

Speaker 5 (01:41:26):
Can they relieve the pain and symptoms of someone that
has sclareiderma.

Speaker 12 (01:41:32):
It depends on where the pain symptoms are I guess,
so it depends on. Scare Derma is a pretty head
to toe disorder that and this is with the skin.
So what happens is that depending on what is going on,
we can definitely talk about that. We have a lot
of services in house, whether it's the endscope machines, imselachare,
whether we're doing regeneritive chiropractic, these are all things that

(01:41:55):
can help, but a consultation would be needed for me
to answer that question.

Speaker 5 (01:41:58):
A bit better. All right, Reto Patel, I'll let you
go because I know you're seeing patients right now and
I appreciate making.

Speaker 7 (01:42:03):
Time for us today.

Speaker 12 (01:42:05):
All right, Thank you, guys, have a good one.

Speaker 7 (01:42:07):
All right, thank you.

Speaker 5 (01:42:08):
One last time, rachel Or, you're gonna have to play
of the day. So yeah, she's a play of the day.

Speaker 4 (01:42:13):
No, I like that.

Speaker 12 (01:42:14):
Like the sound of that.

Speaker 5 (01:42:15):
You're gonna play of the day. Sure, okay, it's our
exciting game show. At the end of the show, Ben
all right might be joining us for this as well.
But what's the special?

Speaker 7 (01:42:24):
One more time?

Speaker 5 (01:42:24):
And how can people get in touch with Rejen Revolution
to either give this gift? I got to tell you,
if somebody gave me a gift of this, of this
facial thing, I would be over the moon for the moon.
Give it to somebody who's thirty.

Speaker 7 (01:42:37):
Don't do that. It'll get you killed.

Speaker 11 (01:42:40):
I know we have you know, some people in their
thirties that are using it instead of botox and Jupiter.

Speaker 5 (01:42:45):
Yeah, I'm not a big botox person, so this is
I got to do my forehead next. Anyway, Uh, special again?

Speaker 11 (01:42:51):
The special again is Gift and Lyft and it's twenty
five percent off for that or any package containing the
Gift and Lift component scial component for the rest of
the year.

Speaker 5 (01:43:02):
Excellent.

Speaker 11 (01:43:03):
And even though it's a cosmetic elective procedure, because we
are a clinic not an esthetics office office, we can't.

Speaker 10 (01:43:12):
You can use your HSA and FSA in our office.

Speaker 5 (01:43:14):
Excellent, Excellent. I'm telling you you guys, this stuff works.
I am living proof with my people thinking I'm younger
than I am. I'll take it all day long. I'll
take it all day long. Rachel, thanks for coming in.
But now it's time for the most exciting segment on
the radio. I'm it's gone hit it a round.

Speaker 3 (01:43:37):
Of the day.

Speaker 5 (01:43:39):
It works like this. First of all, a Rod gives
us a dad joke. You're not required to do anything
but groan or laugh whatever you feel good about on
this one.

Speaker 7 (01:43:46):
What is our dad joke?

Speaker 6 (01:43:47):
Grownier the better? Can you fit a Christmas tree in
your hand?

Speaker 5 (01:43:52):
Can you fit a Christmas tree in your hand?

Speaker 7 (01:43:56):
I don't know.

Speaker 5 (01:43:56):
No, I don't think I can.

Speaker 6 (01:43:58):
Only if it's a palm tree.

Speaker 4 (01:44:00):
God.

Speaker 5 (01:44:01):
See, now you get it, you get a perfect job.
You're out of control right there. That's perfect. What is
our word of the day. This is where it gives
us a usually difficult word and we guess to see
what what it is? What is it?

Speaker 3 (01:44:12):
It is an adjective, and the word is a bulliant
e b U l l I E n T A bulliant.

Speaker 7 (01:44:20):
Go ahead, Rachel.

Speaker 5 (01:44:20):
I think it means like lighthearted and excited and excited.

Speaker 6 (01:44:24):
Yeah, you're on the money pretty much.

Speaker 3 (01:44:25):
If someone or something is appealingly lively and enthusiastic, they
may also be described as a bulliant.

Speaker 2 (01:44:31):
I am often.

Speaker 5 (01:44:32):
Described in my own mind as a bulliant speaking of
a brilliant Ben Albright. Everybody just makes it at the studio.
If I think bubbly warmth, I'm thinking Ben Albright right away. Yeah,
turn your mic on there you.

Speaker 6 (01:44:43):
Those are the words you used to describe it.

Speaker 4 (01:44:45):
One.

Speaker 5 (01:44:45):
Yeah, and now our trivia question, which is right here
in my hand. Who No, I'm not going to use
that one. In math? What is the term for the
bottom number of affraction?

Speaker 7 (01:44:58):
But yes, Rachel?

Speaker 10 (01:45:00):
Denominator yeah, nice, very nice, very nice.

Speaker 5 (01:45:04):
And if the denominators, you know, not royalty, it's just
a common denominator.

Speaker 10 (01:45:09):
Sometimes we find ourselves catering to the lowest.

Speaker 5 (01:45:11):
Yes, exactly, okay, Rachel.

Speaker 7 (01:45:13):
This works like this.

Speaker 5 (01:45:14):
You have to yell out your name, Rachel. If you
want to answer this jeopardy question, then you must answer
in the form of a question. However, unlike Jeopardy, you
do not have to wait until the end of the
question to answer it. If you get it right, you
get one point. If you get it wrong, you get minus.

Speaker 6 (01:45:27):
You do since it's your first time.

Speaker 7 (01:45:29):
It was smart though.

Speaker 6 (01:45:30):
I know that you know the rule.

Speaker 7 (01:45:32):
But Ben is here.

Speaker 5 (01:45:33):
Ben is here.

Speaker 10 (01:45:36):
Ben's name is one syllable and minus two.

Speaker 6 (01:45:38):
Correct, Mandy, You wait, who starts the name first? Need
to silent.

Speaker 7 (01:45:44):
Protest right here?

Speaker 5 (01:45:45):
No, go ahead? What's our.

Speaker 6 (01:45:47):
I'm just saying that category is barbecue, god.

Speaker 10 (01:45:52):
Well, vegetarian.

Speaker 3 (01:45:53):
After it's spent a long time on the grill, the
flavorful and crispy outer layer of meat is called.

Speaker 5 (01:45:59):
This, Mandy, what is the crust?

Speaker 7 (01:46:04):
Dang it?

Speaker 4 (01:46:04):
What is it?

Speaker 3 (01:46:05):
After I said that part is like part of a tree,
that last part was the money one k CBS is
the Barbecue Society of this US city. Yeah, I was
gonna say that one's a lot for Ben there. GBD
should be the goal every time you barbecue, meaning the
meat is this shade and delicious?

Speaker 6 (01:46:29):
Come on now, gb D.

Speaker 5 (01:46:32):
TBD. I have no idea.

Speaker 6 (01:46:34):
I don't know why it's GVD because it's only two words.

Speaker 5 (01:46:37):
I have no idea.

Speaker 6 (01:46:38):
What is golden brown?

Speaker 4 (01:46:39):
Oh?

Speaker 6 (01:46:40):
That's yeah, yeah, I know.

Speaker 7 (01:46:41):
I protesting.

Speaker 3 (01:46:44):
This shrub produces an aromatic wood used in Texas barbecue
like in the Dallas suburb of the same name.

Speaker 2 (01:46:52):
Ben correct.

Speaker 3 (01:46:55):
And finally, also a supervisor and a casino. It's the
two word person presiding over the coals and grill and
pit boss.

Speaker 5 (01:47:04):
Oh my gosh, see the question what if I can't.

Speaker 10 (01:47:09):
Answer Before the end of the QUES didn't ask the question.

Speaker 6 (01:47:11):
I didn't answer any of the form of a question.
All right, minus five hundred for me.

Speaker 7 (01:47:16):
Ben, you are howsier, Thank you going.

Speaker 5 (01:47:18):
Let's talk about that for one second before we going good.

Speaker 8 (01:47:20):
You get to till the sixteenth to get a nominations,
and so Sunday or Sunday night at midnight, which is
the one hundred anniversary of Kawa, we had all kinds
of stuff going on this and you.

Speaker 5 (01:47:28):
Know what, Koa has also done all the treatments at
Regen revolutions. So we only look like forty. I need
to talk right now.

Speaker 6 (01:47:34):
I gotta get rid of it. Yeah, I gotta get
starting to start a little bit.

Speaker 2 (01:47:39):
Really.

Speaker 5 (01:47:40):
Yeah, it's the strangest thing you'll ever do in your life.
Oh yeah, that's so weird. You had me at Hello
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