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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Good morning, everybody. Welcome. I'm Ron Wilson, and you are
in the garden here on news radio six to ten WTVN,
talking about yarding. Kind of a weird weather moving across
the Midwest and over to the east coast. Have to
keep our eyes open here as this weather moves through.
But it'll get through today and tonight and then tomorrow
we start to look at next week, and not too
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bad from what I can see long term, but we'll
take a look at that a little bit later in
the show. We have a couple guests today. Barbie Butcher,
our Queen Bee, and we're going to talk with Kim Roman,
who's written a new book called How to Garden Indoors
and Grow your Own Food year Round. She can grow
your own food indoors year round. Nobody takes it from you,
like from your garden, but you can grow it inside.
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It's a really cool book and it makes a lot
of sense. We'll talk with her in the second hour,
but right now on the line, we have our Queen Bee,
and of course she has been buzzing with yeah, buzzing
with us for many many many years now, keeping us
in formed with all about the bees. Both the honey
bees and the native bees as well. Well. We always
get an update from Barbie, butletcher for how the bees
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are doing we come out of the winter, how they're
doing after we go through the summer, how they're doing
going into the winter. And well, we've got some reports
as we come out of the winter and actually out
of last out of twenty twenty four, looking at the
bees may not be all smiles that we had hoped
it would be. But before we get started, and I
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have so many questions for it. First of all, good morning.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
Good morning. It's a beautiful day.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
A beautiful day, she says, in her backyard with her bees.
They've been out probably quite a bit this past.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
Week, oh this weekend or this last couple of days.
They've been flying like crazy. Yeah, I've been feeding them
and they seem to be very happy.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
So there's that. Means there's bee poop all over the place.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
Absolutely, there you go.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
Good for good fertilizer for all those which. By the way, hey,
before we get started with the bees, I'm gonna take
you in a direction that you don't even know. I'm
gonna do this, all right, So are you ready for
this one? I have been and and these are now
commercially available on the market. But I have been investigating
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different types of organic fertilizers that are out there today.
And you know, over the winter time we talk with
a young lady from Woolets and using wool pellets as
a soil amendment and adding nutrients back to the soil
with wool sheep wool. Really cool and I can't wait
to try that this year in container gardening. But one
of the other ones I'm seeing more and more of
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all the time is using insect fasts as a fertilizer.
Have you seen that.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
I have not seen that, but I mean it makes sense.
It's just a reconstituted plant material.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
Yeah. They what they said was they consider the insects,
and I guess there's some insects that we're going to
get them on here some time in the upcoming future
to talk about this. But I guess there are some
insects obviously that are are more they produce more of
this and easier to collect. Meal worms, the crickets obviously
they raise crickets for you know whatever, the robust black
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Soldier fly, those are three of the big big names.
But they're saying that their excrement is is nutrition rich
and you know, high in nitrogen, phosphorus, carbon, the whole
nine yards. And they're finding this to become becoming one
of the new up and coming and all natural fertilizers
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out there. Insect poop.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
Yeah, I mean not the soldier beetle maybe, but the
other ones. We can eat them too, so we can
grow the insects, eat the adults and through all the
frasts in our gardens, right, I know earthworm castings for years?
Speaker 1 (03:58):
Yeah, yeah, I know earthworm castings. Did you think about that?
I mean, you know verma composting and raising the worms
and then getting the castings. That seems kind of an
easy process. But when you're talking not easy but more realistic.
But when you're talking about collecting insect frasts, it's like
what But if you look at the ones that they're
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doing it from. Obviously, crickets are raised like worms to sell.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (04:24):
The meal worms are raised for the same thing, feeding
birds and things like that. Uh. The black soldier fly,
I'm not sure so much of that one, but I
guess it's easy to raise and collect the the the
frast but I and and then eating the bugs I
can tell you one person that would not do that
would be Joe Bugs for being bug for buggy, Joe Boggs,
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you know, would not put a bug in his mouth.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
Yeah, but he used to mos man he should.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
Be well, yeah, and of course that's where the do
you know that story, don't you?
Speaker 2 (04:58):
I think I've heard it before, But choking the moths
man exhibits.
Speaker 1 (05:03):
Oh well yeah that too. But no. Actually I called
him the co creator of Mathra Coffee and Porium. And
one time he was getting ready to come on with
us and he took went to take a sip of
coffee before we came on, and came on and I
was introducing him. Took a sip of coffee. Of course,
Joe always has a cup of coffee, and he did
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not know this, but a moth had been in the cup.
And then he poured the coffee and he went to
take a drink and there was a moth in it.
So when I introduced him, he was choking and I
started laughing, and he finally got his throat cleared, and
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we found out why because he had swallowed semi swallowed
his moth. So I then came up with the Mathra
Coffee and porium proprietor would be Buggy Joe Bogg. So anyway, yeah,
long story, but so so you see this being something
that is feasible reasonable makes a lot of sense.
Speaker 3 (06:07):
Oh.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
Absolutely, if you raise them yourself, If you raise them yourself,
you know exactly what's going into them, so you can
adjust their diet, defertilize your plans accordingly. There you go, right,
a great endeavor.
Speaker 1 (06:21):
Well, then we're looking for investors, just kidding you go first,
let me go. Now, I'll let you know how my
investment comes back. Talking with Barbi Bletcher, she is our
Queen Bee And of course, as I mentioned earlier, coming
out of the seasons, we check with Barb and find
out how things are going and what kind of reports
we've gotten. And in the past in Ohio, you know,
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she's come back and said, hey, we had a twenty
five percent loss or a thirty percent loss reported from
the bee keepers and you don't want to see that,
but I guess those are acceptable numbers with all of
the factors and things that they can go through every year.
But over the last three or four weeks, and I've
kind of mentioned this on our shows because I knew
we're going to have you on. You keep sending me
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all this information, which surprisingly hasn't really hit the news
that much. But what there's I'll just read one of
the headlines you sent me. Survey reveals over one point
one million honeybee colonies lost, raising alarm for pollination and agriculture. Yeah, yeah,
and this is not a good the severe and sudden
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losses of man these honeybees across the nation. What's going on? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (07:30):
And these are the commercial beekeepers. So these beekeepers have
hundreds of thousands of colonies and they're you know, they've
been keeping bees. Some of them are three or four
generation beekeepers, so you know, they know what to do
and how to do. They're the ones, for the most part,
who are supplying all of our pollination needs. So for
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them to lose that kind of that number of colonies
is it's serious.
Speaker 1 (07:57):
And so these these are the folks that are raising
hundreds and hundreds of colonies. Obviously that is their that's
their profession. I mean, I mean obviously their beekeeper like
you are and and and all the bee keepers. How
but these folks are doing it commercially huge numbers.
Speaker 4 (08:14):
We have tens of thousands of colonies and as a
business for shipping to other places for pollination like the
almond groves and the citrus groves and things like that.
Speaker 1 (08:27):
So these are the people that really are into a
big time. That is their their profession, that's their income,
their job.
Speaker 3 (08:34):
Right.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
For for instance, we have a million acres of almonds
in California. In California, by the way, their almond crop
supplies eighty two percent of the almonds for the world.
So I mean our almond crop down California is extremely important.
So for an acre of almonds, that requires two colonies
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of hives per acre of almond. But because we are
so short on bee fives, they're springing it out to
one colony per three or four acres of almonds. Wow,
you know you're not going to get the pollination that
you need it needs. It takes two million acres of
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colonies bee colonies to supply the pollination for our almonds.
And right now, the lightest I read just last week
is we've lost one point eight million colonies. So there
is your almond pollination.
Speaker 1 (09:36):
Wow. And this is a this is a dumb question,
but if if they need so many bees to pollinate
those almonds, why aren't there bee keepers right there raising
bees for those almond orchards.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
Well, you know, and then that's a great question. The
problem is, you know we so bees are only going
to I have to say that if you have too
many colonies in one yard, they're not going to do
any more pollination than fewer colonies. You're overquota, so there's
not enough food for those bees, and you end up
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having to feed them. And the feed that we give
bees is nowhere near as nutritious is what they can get.
So if you're over capacity for the available for us,
those beests just aren't going to make it so, and
of course they spread diseases among themselves too, pastive diseases.
So we have to spread these colonies out all over
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the place so they have enough food to grow on
their own. So we have colonies from North Dakota, South Dakota, Idaho, Washington,
all over those western states, as well as right here
in Ohio. We have commercial beekeepers who ship through their
colonies down to almond pollination. So we have let's just remember,
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we have two point seven million colonies in the United States.
That's not counting some of the hobby bee keepers that
don't register. But if we have two point seven million
colonies in the United States and it takes two million
colonies to pollinate the honey bees or pollinate the almonds,
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where are all these bees going to come from?
Speaker 1 (11:25):
Right? And I you know, I'm thinking that through. I mean,
unless they have a natural habitat to feed on the
rest of the season after the almonds are finished.
Speaker 4 (11:33):
Yeah, you're done.
Speaker 2 (11:35):
There's nothing down there for the bees.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
Right. The environment's perfect for the almonds, but not perfect
for the pollinators, right, exactly, got it? All right, We've
got to take a quick break. We're talking with Barbie Butcher.
Can you stick with us for a couple segments because
I got a ton of questions for you. Absolutely all right,
because and we'll talk with Barbie Butcher more about this
and more about the shipping and the bees, the loss
of the bees, what are they finding out, why is
this happening? And a whole lot more. You're on news
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radio six to ten w TVN. I love this, I
work out. Yeah. Anyway, great song, Thank you Ella. I
haven't heard that in a long time. FM A and
something like that. Yeah, anyway, the headlines are showing l
(12:21):
M F al Yeah, they got it that was that
was a nephew and an uncle, right or something like that.
Speaker 2 (12:27):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (12:28):
I think I work out. I'm sexy, I know. Anyway,
you're supposed to laugh on that one. But crickets the
whole nine yards nothing.
Speaker 2 (12:42):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (12:42):
A headline show at severe and sudden losses of Mana's
honeybeats across the nation. Survey reveals over one point one
million honeybee colonies lost, raising alarm for pollination and agriculture.
Tell us more about this. Of course, we go to
our Queen Bee, Barbie Bletcher, talking about the losses that
she's seeing in state of Ohio right now. And what
do you what do you seeing from the any early
reports from here in Ohio were saying like maybe twenty
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five thirty percent loss.
Speaker 2 (13:07):
Well, I try to think positive. I would say we're
at a sixty five percent survival.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
There there you go. I like that.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
Yeah, and it better and it is doing better than
out west.
Speaker 1 (13:21):
Well yeah that's what Yeah, no doubt about it. Uh
So you know, obviously there isn't a there's a scramble
going on trying to figure out what the heck's happening
and anything so far as far as any results.
Speaker 2 (13:35):
So the USTA has been working with some of the universities.
They have been sampling these dead and dying colonies, surveying
the beekeepers, and trying to gather as much information. So
they're still telling all the results, and of course they've
had their own upheaval over there. One of the things
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that they're finding, so the might levels, you know, are high,
but no higher than the prior years. So they're not
really blaming the mites for this, but they suspect that
there's a new virus, or perhaps one of the virus
viruses we already had has morphed, just like COVID did
for us. Really, so it looks like there's another virus
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that's in the.
Speaker 1 (14:20):
Mix, but we don't know for sure, but they are
certainly working on it because this is a serious.
Speaker 2 (14:25):
Situation, oh very much so. So I think they've they've
found that so far. We somewhere around them. I just
forgot where it is. One hundred and thirty nine one
point thirty nine million dollar loss. One hundred and thirty
nine million dollar loss.
Speaker 1 (14:44):
That's crazy stuff. Yeah, I think, you know. And and yeah,
again I think we're talking about the overall economic impact
in the whole nine yards. They were talking like four million,
four hundred million dollars and obviously so because of the
lack of pollination, the actual costs and losses to the
beekeepers and all that not a good thing. So if
you see this out there, it is I'm surprised. I
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am surprised we haven't seen it more on the news,
but it is a situation going on. Yeah, uh, Barbin, think.
Speaker 2 (15:14):
What's going to happen to the apples and the blueberries.
Where are we going to get hives for colonies to
pollinate the blueberries and the apples to be brought in?
Speaker 1 (15:22):
So obviously now you know, and again, Barban, I've been
kind of in touch for the last three or four
weeks just trying to wait to see. I've been putting
off having her on the show, to wait to see
if they found anything or came up with something. But
I think, you know, I look at this now, and
of course we've been pushing and rightfully so, about being
be e e friendly in your garden and pollinat or
polite and all their guarding endeavors. To me, it looks
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like now it's even more so like this thing is
going to really for us in our own yards and
gardens and containers. Really ramp up here.
Speaker 2 (15:54):
We need every single honey bee colony. We can get
every backyard beehive, every colony. We have about a couple
of handfuls of commercial beekeepers who are trying to stay afloat.
We need to support our local beekeepers. We need to
plant food for them. Your bed and breakfast that you
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always talk about, get rid of the five acres of
grass and put in food for the bees.
Speaker 1 (16:21):
Or take that grass and convert it into flawn.
Speaker 2 (16:25):
A flowering lawn, a flowering lawn with tranella and clover
and dandlions. That would be one fantastic or yeah.
Speaker 1 (16:34):
Little yeah, a little clover in there and all of that.
You know. You know, Teresa did that in her law
and her husband didn't even know that he did it.
She did it.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
Yeah, sometimes we have to speak this fi.
Speaker 1 (16:44):
I hope he's not listening, No, just her, Okay, yeah,
I figured he would be listening to the show talk
with Barbie Bletcher. She is our Queen Bee. By the way,
you have a big fan out there listens to our
show on a regular basis. He goes by the name
Dipper he's a truck driver and listens to us, and
he was asking about well, he emailed me the first
of February he said, listen to you regularly. He was
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poking fun at us. I remember we was now Ella
and myself for not knowing about the Prairie Chicken Festival
out in Kansas. But anyway, he said, he loves listen
to the Queen Bee. If you can ask the Queen Bee,
how hard is the trip on those bee colonies from
North Dakota or wherever they're shipped to, you know, from
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to California. You know, what do they have to do
to actually do that? And so then how many you know,
how many bees I mean are in that transit, you know,
on those those trucks because you see him he was
seeing a lot of them at that time at the
beginning of February, obviously headed out west.
Speaker 2 (17:46):
It's really difficult. I mean, you think about those bees
that go from you know, sunny North Dakota down to
Florida or up to Maine for pollination. It's very disorienting
for them because they don't know where they are. When
they come out of that call me, they're bumped, bump, bump,
all the way down to California or wherever. So it's
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very hard on the bees.
Speaker 1 (18:10):
Can you do me favor? I didn't even realize what
the time we got to take a quick break. My apologies.
We're gonna stop with a bump, bump, bump, And it's
tough on the bees. Find out what how tough is
it on these bees to ship them to these to
California where we may go Talking with the Queen Bee,
Barbie Butcher here on news radio six to ten WTVN.
(18:32):
We're talking yardening here on news radio six to ten.
They get to get that bug out of my throat.
Just trying to eat a couple of flies here, see
what they taste like anyway, Adam, maybe a moth here
and there too. Talking with Barbie Butcher here on news
radio six to ten w tv and she is our
Queen Bee. Talking about the huge bee losses that we
have been experiencing over the last six months or so.
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And it's a huge and trying to figure out what's
going on. The question came up, which is kind of
interesting store here is you know what it takes to
ship those bees those colonies from like North Dakota to California.
And bar was explaining that, you know, it's a long trip,
obviously bumpy ride. They're in these hives, I mean, do
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they how do they put them on the trucks? I
mean do they have to? Are they covered over? Do
do they see them inside the hives? What do they
do there?
Speaker 2 (19:22):
Well, they can't see them in the hives because they
would suffocate, right, you know, it could be a couple
of really hot days getting down there. So they'll they
keep their hives on palette. You could fit four hives
per pallett, so typically they'll stack them up four high.
So for sets of hives, you could even set them
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higher than that, so you can have them four hundred
to four fifty or even six hundred colonies stacked up high.
They'll obviously tie them down, latch them down. Then they
put like either the shrink wrap, it's actually on the pallett,
so it's not close to the hives themselves, I know,
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how like the support beams on the truck, so the
bees have air. Of course, they only have a bottom
entrance for air, so they can't plug that up. They
also may put a real fine netting like mosquito netting
over the entire semi the whole back of the semi
so that they're somewhat contained, because there's nothing more alarming
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than a truck, you know, a semi coming to a
stop and having bees flying all over the place. Yeah,
we'll have a real fine netting over them to keep
bees contained. Well, they just drive them non stop until
they reach their destination.
Speaker 1 (20:44):
I was going to say, So they keep going till
they get there, and then of course unload, spread them out,
give them time to settle in, and then let them
do their things. So when they're done then I mean,
now you've got all these colonies there at the almond
grove for instance, and like you said, they don't so
what it's all said and done, the pollination time has passed.
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Now what do you do with all those colonies?
Speaker 2 (21:07):
So they have to give them out of those those
almond yards quickly because the almond the orchard iss have
to spray them. So they put them in these huge
basically parking lots, and then they'll start sorting through them,
find out which ones are still alive, which ones are healthy.
They sell a lot of them, So we have beekeeper
companies that just sell packages, so you can order like
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a package of bees. A lot of them is sold
to them so they'll you know, break them up and
sell them as packages, or they're you know, sold to
a beekeeper down there in California. Only the very best
are sent up to pollination because it's just too expensive
to ship a colony of bees if they're you know, unthrifty.
Speaker 1 (21:52):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (21:53):
So I found out that costs about eight eight thousand
dollars just to ship the bees, like from North Carolina,
North Dakota to California. Wow, it's just to ship it.
Speaker 1 (22:09):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (22:10):
You know it's they're expensive merchandise.
Speaker 1 (22:13):
Yeah, that's a lot. That's a lot of money. So,
you know, so with all that's going on, you know
again you and I are seeing this research out there
using the robobes, the you know, the drone bees that
are out there. Now, what do you think about that
kind of research? I mean, these are these little drones
that are actually able to detect the flowers and the
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pollen and actually can go and collect and pollinate. And
they're just a little bit of drones with a couple
of little wings on them and flying around and I
don't know, what do you think.
Speaker 2 (22:43):
Yeah, they're becoming much more efficient. They're finding the flowers.
They don't go to as many flowers before they you know,
go back. They don't mix as many at a time
as a honey bee does. But you know, it's it
certainly helps. The thing is that, you know, the orchard
just have hundreds of thousands of dollars invested in these
acres of almonds, so they they can't just rip up
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their almonds to put in like self pollinating almonds that
you hear about. They may not be able to afford
those robobes. And just think of the acres and the
acres of almonds and it's solid almonds, nothing else. So,
you know, but I think the roller bees will help,
but I don't know if they're practical for huge acreages.
Speaker 1 (23:29):
Got it, got it? Great information is always Barbie Bletcher.
I guess Nina Bagley's got the worst. You better start
producing a lot of queen bees right now.
Speaker 2 (23:39):
Yeah, they are all gonna be calling Nina for her queens,
for her queens.
Speaker 1 (23:43):
So I mean, the bottom line is this, we don't
know what's going on yet. Obviously they'll they'll find out,
they'll they'll figure it out. But in the meantime, even
more so from what we've been saying in the past.
Now let's double and triple it. We've got to do
even more what we can to be ee and pollinator
friendly in our yards and gardens and containers.
Speaker 2 (24:03):
Yeah, and let people know how important honeybees are. You
know what we need to preach better. We need not
maybe preach, but we need to advertise ourselves, promote ourselves
how important beekeeping really is, and.
Speaker 1 (24:16):
Get more people involved with bee keeping, no doubt about it,
Barbie but Butcher, always a pleasure of great information. We'll
get together here, we start to see if they've seen,
if they're starting to figure something out. We'll get back
and report to everybody what's going on. I appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (24:29):
Thank you, Ron, thank you.
Speaker 1 (24:30):
All right, all right, take care, Barbie Butcher, our queen
Bee will take another break. We come back. Phone lines.
We're open for you at a two to one w
TV and coming up the top of the hour, Kim
Rowland or yeah, Roman will join us this morning. Her
new book is called How to Garden Indoors and Garden
and Grow your Own Food Indoors year round, pretty neat book.
It's all happen to hear on news Radio six to ten.
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WTVN talking your ardening here on news Radio six' ten
w great bumper music provided by our Producer Elle. Up
always appreciate. That not a good story about the, bees
the honey. Bees we'll keep you posted on that and
hopefully they'll figure out what's going on and get that.
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Corrected but in the, meantime the pushes on big time
even more than, ever, folks to turn your, containers your window,
boxes you, know your your vegetable garden, planning more flowers out,
there more native, plants native, selections all those pollinator. Plants
butterfly bush it's not or not butterfly, bush, butterflyheed and you, know,
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milkweed all those you. Know, again Like joe, said you,
know butterfly gardens aren't just for butterflies. Anymore there for
all the. Pollinators and that's what we need to be doing,
it even more so now to keep our honeybee populations
up and strong and all the pollinators up and, strong
going through this little bit of a, wow pretty major
loss there with those. Honeybees so we'll keep you posted
(25:56):
and you, know find out that hopefully they'll find out
what's going. On back to the guarding Pulle, ane we
shall Go. Dana good, Morning.
Speaker 3 (26:05):
Good. Morning how you, Doing.
Speaker 1 (26:06):
Dana i'm great butt your heir of.
Speaker 3 (26:08):
THIS i would like to see her get with her
her cohorts and see if they can get the USD
a to start uh employing people around The United states
to raise honey bees instead of you, like taking them
from The dakotas Into california to pollinate the Almond why
(26:32):
shouldn't they be right there to where they can pollinate
the almonds as as an all over The United, states
and then they can use uh the honey that has
harvested from the hives to off set some of the
price for taking care of these bees and employing these
people around The United, states and we wouldn't have this.
Speaker 1 (26:54):
Problem, yeah that's a that's a great. Uh And i'm
sure they're all, listening and that's a great, Idea. DAN i,
think you, know somehow we've got to get people more
involved with doing. THIS i think the one situation That
barb did explain to us, was you know why they
don't already have bee colonies there and the almond groves
is that once the almonds are done, flowering the habitat
in that particular area doesn't have enough other pollinator plants
(27:19):
to support these, colonies so they have to bring in
extra bees to pollinate the, almonds but they. Can't the
habitat around him is not supportive enough for all of
the colonies that they need to bring. In so there's
that environmental. Situation but that's not a bad idea to
try to look out. There how can we actually hire
people to start, growing you, know raising more.
Speaker 3 (27:40):
And becoming people to do other. Things it doesn't have
to be in that general area Of, california but it
could be like maybe fifty miles away to Where, sure
maybe there are the flowers they need to sustain themselves
when they're not.
Speaker 1 (27:55):
Pollinating, SURE i think it's a great, Idea, DAN i
appreciate the calling and putting the bug in the.
Speaker 3 (28:00):
Air, okay all, Right, dana good?
Speaker 1 (28:04):
Time and why? NOT i mean that's a that's a of,
COURSE i don't what the cuts that are going through right,
now probably ain't gonna happen for a, while but, yeah
and maybe a situation that it is such an important
thing for, us and maybe that's something that THE usda
has to take a look, at and that could be a.
POSSIBILITY i, mean it's all kinds of things that are
out there that hopefully that we can come up with some.
Answers but in the, meantime you know what's going on
(28:26):
at hand right. Now what can we do right now,
Today and that's you and. Me LIKE i said, earlier
you and me and all of us joining together and
being even more even more pollinator, friendly pollinator, polite be
friendly in our gardens and doing cultural practices in there
that you know that totally support these pollinators and really
(28:47):
focusing in on that and keeping keeping that. Going all,
right we're gonna have to take a break. Here we've
run out of time in this first hour went, quickly
and AGAIN i Appreciate Barb bletcher for joining us this
morning and sharing that information with, us and we will
keep you. Posted she's on top of it all the
time and keeps me informed as, well so we'll keep
you posted on that as soon as we find out
more about. It but please please do everything you can
(29:10):
to help encourage those pollinators in your yards and gardens
and containers as. Well coming up after the, break we're
going to talk To Kim. Roman kim has written a
really cool. BOOK i really enjoyed this one called how
to garden indoors and grow your own food year. Round
we'll talk about that after the break here on news
radio six to TEN. Wtvn
Good morning, everybody. Welcome. I'm Ron Wilson, and you are
in the garden here on news radio six to ten WTVN,
talking about yarding. Kind of a weird weather moving across
the Midwest and over to the east coast. Have to
keep our eyes open here as this weather moves through.
But it'll get through today and tonight and then tomorrow
we start to look at next week, and not too
(00:21):
bad from what I can see long term, but we'll
take a look at that a little bit later in
the show. We have a couple guests today. Barbie Butcher,
our Queen Bee, and we're going to talk with Kim Roman,
who's written a new book called How to Garden Indoors
and Grow your Own Food year Round. She can grow
your own food indoors year round. Nobody takes it from you,
like from your garden, but you can grow it inside.
(00:42):
It's a really cool book and it makes a lot
of sense. We'll talk with her in the second hour,
but right now on the line, we have our Queen Bee,
and of course she has been buzzing with yeah, buzzing
with us for many many many years now, keeping us
in formed with all about the bees. Both the honey
bees and the native bees as well. Well. We always
get an update from Barbie, butletcher for how the bees
(01:03):
are doing we come out of the winter, how they're
doing after we go through the summer, how they're doing
going into the winter. And well, we've got some reports
as we come out of the winter and actually out
of last out of twenty twenty four, looking at the
bees may not be all smiles that we had hoped
it would be. But before we get started, and I
(01:24):
have so many questions for it. First of all, good morning.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
Good morning. It's a beautiful day.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
A beautiful day, she says, in her backyard with her bees.
They've been out probably quite a bit this past.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
Week, oh this weekend or this last couple of days.
They've been flying like crazy. Yeah, I've been feeding them
and they seem to be very happy.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
So there's that. Means there's bee poop all over the place.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
Absolutely, there you go.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
Good for good fertilizer for all those which. By the way, hey,
before we get started with the bees, I'm gonna take
you in a direction that you don't even know. I'm
gonna do this, all right, So are you ready for
this one? I have been and and these are now
commercially available on the market. But I have been investigating
(02:16):
different types of organic fertilizers that are out there today.
And you know, over the winter time we talk with
a young lady from Woolets and using wool pellets as
a soil amendment and adding nutrients back to the soil
with wool sheep wool. Really cool and I can't wait
to try that this year in container gardening. But one
of the other ones I'm seeing more and more of
(02:38):
all the time is using insect fasts as a fertilizer.
Have you seen that.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
I have not seen that, but I mean it makes sense.
It's just a reconstituted plant material.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
Yeah. They what they said was they consider the insects,
and I guess there's some insects that we're going to
get them on here some time in the upcoming future
to talk about this. But I guess there are some
insects obviously that are are more they produce more of
this and easier to collect. Meal worms, the crickets obviously
they raise crickets for you know whatever, the robust black
(03:16):
Soldier fly, those are three of the big big names.
But they're saying that their excrement is is nutrition rich
and you know, high in nitrogen, phosphorus, carbon, the whole
nine yards. And they're finding this to become becoming one
of the new up and coming and all natural fertilizers
(03:38):
out there. Insect poop.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
Yeah, I mean not the soldier beetle maybe, but the
other ones. We can eat them too, so we can
grow the insects, eat the adults and through all the
frasts in our gardens, right, I know earthworm castings for years?
Speaker 1 (03:58):
Yeah, yeah, I know earthworm castings. Did you think about that?
I mean, you know verma composting and raising the worms
and then getting the castings. That seems kind of an
easy process. But when you're talking not easy but more realistic.
But when you're talking about collecting insect frasts, it's like
what But if you look at the ones that they're
(04:19):
doing it from. Obviously, crickets are raised like worms to sell.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (04:24):
The meal worms are raised for the same thing, feeding
birds and things like that. Uh. The black soldier fly,
I'm not sure so much of that one, but I
guess it's easy to raise and collect the the the
frast but I and and then eating the bugs I
can tell you one person that would not do that
would be Joe Bugs for being bug for buggy, Joe Boggs,
(04:47):
you know, would not put a bug in his mouth.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
Yeah, but he used to mos man he should.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
Be well, yeah, and of course that's where the do
you know that story, don't you?
Speaker 2 (04:58):
I think I've heard it before, But choking the moths
man exhibits.
Speaker 1 (05:03):
Oh well yeah that too. But no. Actually I called
him the co creator of Mathra Coffee and Porium. And
one time he was getting ready to come on with
us and he took went to take a sip of
coffee before we came on, and came on and I
was introducing him. Took a sip of coffee. Of course,
Joe always has a cup of coffee, and he did
(05:25):
not know this, but a moth had been in the cup.
And then he poured the coffee and he went to
take a drink and there was a moth in it.
So when I introduced him, he was choking and I
started laughing, and he finally got his throat cleared, and
(05:47):
we found out why because he had swallowed semi swallowed
his moth. So I then came up with the Mathra
Coffee and porium proprietor would be Buggy Joe Bogg. So anyway, yeah,
long story, but so so you see this being something
that is feasible reasonable makes a lot of sense.
Speaker 3 (06:07):
Oh.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
Absolutely, if you raise them yourself, If you raise them yourself,
you know exactly what's going into them, so you can
adjust their diet, defertilize your plans accordingly. There you go, right,
a great endeavor.
Speaker 1 (06:21):
Well, then we're looking for investors, just kidding you go first,
let me go. Now, I'll let you know how my
investment comes back. Talking with Barbi Bletcher, she is our
Queen Bee And of course, as I mentioned earlier, coming
out of the seasons, we check with Barb and find
out how things are going and what kind of reports
we've gotten. And in the past in Ohio, you know,
(06:44):
she's come back and said, hey, we had a twenty
five percent loss or a thirty percent loss reported from
the bee keepers and you don't want to see that,
but I guess those are acceptable numbers with all of
the factors and things that they can go through every year.
But over the last three or four weeks, and I've
kind of mentioned this on our shows because I knew
we're going to have you on. You keep sending me
(07:05):
all this information, which surprisingly hasn't really hit the news
that much. But what there's I'll just read one of
the headlines you sent me. Survey reveals over one point
one million honeybee colonies lost, raising alarm for pollination and agriculture. Yeah, yeah,
and this is not a good the severe and sudden
(07:25):
losses of man these honeybees across the nation. What's going on? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (07:30):
And these are the commercial beekeepers. So these beekeepers have
hundreds of thousands of colonies and they're you know, they've
been keeping bees. Some of them are three or four
generation beekeepers, so you know, they know what to do
and how to do. They're the ones, for the most part,
who are supplying all of our pollination needs. So for
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them to lose that kind of that number of colonies
is it's serious.
Speaker 1 (07:57):
And so these these are the folks that are raising
hundreds and hundreds of colonies. Obviously that is their that's
their profession. I mean, I mean obviously their beekeeper like
you are and and and all the bee keepers. How
but these folks are doing it commercially huge numbers.
Speaker 4 (08:14):
We have tens of thousands of colonies and as a
business for shipping to other places for pollination like the
almond groves and the citrus groves and things like that.
Speaker 1 (08:27):
So these are the people that really are into a
big time. That is their their profession, that's their income,
their job.
Speaker 3 (08:34):
Right.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
For for instance, we have a million acres of almonds
in California. In California, by the way, their almond crop
supplies eighty two percent of the almonds for the world.
So I mean our almond crop down California is extremely important.
So for an acre of almonds, that requires two colonies
(08:59):
of hives per acre of almond. But because we are
so short on bee fives, they're springing it out to
one colony per three or four acres of almonds. Wow,
you know you're not going to get the pollination that
you need it needs. It takes two million acres of
(09:21):
colonies bee colonies to supply the pollination for our almonds.
And right now, the lightest I read just last week
is we've lost one point eight million colonies. So there
is your almond pollination.
Speaker 1 (09:36):
Wow. And this is a this is a dumb question,
but if if they need so many bees to pollinate
those almonds, why aren't there bee keepers right there raising
bees for those almond orchards.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
Well, you know, and then that's a great question. The
problem is, you know we so bees are only going
to I have to say that if you have too
many colonies in one yard, they're not going to do
any more pollination than fewer colonies. You're overquota, so there's
not enough food for those bees, and you end up
(10:14):
having to feed them. And the feed that we give
bees is nowhere near as nutritious is what they can get.
So if you're over capacity for the available for us,
those beests just aren't going to make it so, and
of course they spread diseases among themselves too, pastive diseases.
So we have to spread these colonies out all over
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the place so they have enough food to grow on
their own. So we have colonies from North Dakota, South Dakota, Idaho, Washington,
all over those western states, as well as right here
in Ohio. We have commercial beekeepers who ship through their
colonies down to almond pollination. So we have let's just remember,
(11:01):
we have two point seven million colonies in the United States.
That's not counting some of the hobby bee keepers that
don't register. But if we have two point seven million
colonies in the United States and it takes two million
colonies to pollinate the honey bees or pollinate the almonds,
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where are all these bees going to come from?
Speaker 1 (11:25):
Right? And I you know, I'm thinking that through. I mean,
unless they have a natural habitat to feed on the
rest of the season after the almonds are finished.
Speaker 4 (11:33):
Yeah, you're done.
Speaker 2 (11:35):
There's nothing down there for the bees.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
Right. The environment's perfect for the almonds, but not perfect
for the pollinators, right, exactly, got it? All right, We've
got to take a quick break. We're talking with Barbie Butcher.
Can you stick with us for a couple segments because
I got a ton of questions for you. Absolutely all right,
because and we'll talk with Barbie Butcher more about this
and more about the shipping and the bees, the loss
of the bees, what are they finding out, why is
this happening? And a whole lot more. You're on news
(12:00):
radio six to ten w TVN. I love this, I
work out. Yeah. Anyway, great song, Thank you Ella. I
haven't heard that in a long time. FM A and
something like that. Yeah, anyway, the headlines are showing l
(12:21):
M F al Yeah, they got it that was that
was a nephew and an uncle, right or something like that.
Speaker 2 (12:27):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (12:28):
I think I work out. I'm sexy, I know. Anyway,
you're supposed to laugh on that one. But crickets the
whole nine yards nothing.
Speaker 2 (12:42):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (12:42):
A headline show at severe and sudden losses of Mana's
honeybeats across the nation. Survey reveals over one point one
million honeybee colonies lost, raising alarm for pollination and agriculture.
Tell us more about this. Of course, we go to
our Queen Bee, Barbie Bletcher, talking about the losses that
she's seeing in state of Ohio right now. And what
do you what do you seeing from the any early
reports from here in Ohio were saying like maybe twenty
(13:05):
five thirty percent loss.
Speaker 2 (13:07):
Well, I try to think positive. I would say we're
at a sixty five percent survival.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
There there you go. I like that.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
Yeah, and it better and it is doing better than
out west.
Speaker 1 (13:21):
Well yeah that's what Yeah, no doubt about it. Uh
So you know, obviously there isn't a there's a scramble
going on trying to figure out what the heck's happening
and anything so far as far as any results.
Speaker 2 (13:35):
So the USTA has been working with some of the universities.
They have been sampling these dead and dying colonies, surveying
the beekeepers, and trying to gather as much information. So
they're still telling all the results, and of course they've
had their own upheaval over there. One of the things
(13:56):
that they're finding, so the might levels, you know, are high,
but no higher than the prior years. So they're not
really blaming the mites for this, but they suspect that
there's a new virus, or perhaps one of the virus
viruses we already had has morphed, just like COVID did
for us. Really, so it looks like there's another virus
(14:19):
that's in the.
Speaker 1 (14:20):
Mix, but we don't know for sure, but they are
certainly working on it because this is a serious.
Speaker 2 (14:25):
Situation, oh very much so. So I think they've they've
found that so far. We somewhere around them. I just
forgot where it is. One hundred and thirty nine one
point thirty nine million dollar loss. One hundred and thirty
nine million dollar loss.
Speaker 1 (14:44):
That's crazy stuff. Yeah, I think, you know. And and yeah,
again I think we're talking about the overall economic impact
in the whole nine yards. They were talking like four million,
four hundred million dollars and obviously so because of the
lack of pollination, the actual costs and losses to the
beekeepers and all that not a good thing. So if
you see this out there, it is I'm surprised. I
(15:06):
am surprised we haven't seen it more on the news,
but it is a situation going on. Yeah, uh, Barbin, think.
Speaker 2 (15:14):
What's going to happen to the apples and the blueberries.
Where are we going to get hives for colonies to
pollinate the blueberries and the apples to be brought in?
Speaker 1 (15:22):
So obviously now you know, and again, Barban, I've been
kind of in touch for the last three or four
weeks just trying to wait to see. I've been putting
off having her on the show, to wait to see
if they found anything or came up with something. But
I think, you know, I look at this now, and
of course we've been pushing and rightfully so, about being
be e e friendly in your garden and pollinat or
polite and all their guarding endeavors. To me, it looks
(15:45):
like now it's even more so like this thing is
going to really for us in our own yards and
gardens and containers. Really ramp up here.
Speaker 2 (15:54):
We need every single honey bee colony. We can get
every backyard beehive, every colony. We have about a couple
of handfuls of commercial beekeepers who are trying to stay afloat.
We need to support our local beekeepers. We need to
plant food for them. Your bed and breakfast that you
(16:14):
always talk about, get rid of the five acres of
grass and put in food for the bees.
Speaker 1 (16:21):
Or take that grass and convert it into flawn.
Speaker 2 (16:25):
A flowering lawn, a flowering lawn with tranella and clover
and dandlions. That would be one fantastic or yeah.
Speaker 1 (16:34):
Little yeah, a little clover in there and all of that.
You know. You know, Teresa did that in her law
and her husband didn't even know that he did it.
She did it.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
Yeah, sometimes we have to speak this fi.
Speaker 1 (16:44):
I hope he's not listening, No, just her, Okay, yeah,
I figured he would be listening to the show talk
with Barbie Bletcher. She is our Queen Bee. By the way,
you have a big fan out there listens to our
show on a regular basis. He goes by the name
Dipper he's a truck driver and listens to us, and
he was asking about well, he emailed me the first
of February he said, listen to you regularly. He was
(17:08):
poking fun at us. I remember we was now Ella
and myself for not knowing about the Prairie Chicken Festival
out in Kansas. But anyway, he said, he loves listen
to the Queen Bee. If you can ask the Queen Bee,
how hard is the trip on those bee colonies from
North Dakota or wherever they're shipped to, you know, from
(17:29):
to California. You know, what do they have to do
to actually do that? And so then how many you know,
how many bees I mean are in that transit, you know,
on those those trucks because you see him he was
seeing a lot of them at that time at the
beginning of February, obviously headed out west.
Speaker 2 (17:46):
It's really difficult. I mean, you think about those bees
that go from you know, sunny North Dakota down to
Florida or up to Maine for pollination. It's very disorienting
for them because they don't know where they are. When
they come out of that call me, they're bumped, bump, bump,
all the way down to California or wherever. So it's
(18:08):
very hard on the bees.
Speaker 1 (18:10):
Can you do me favor? I didn't even realize what
the time we got to take a quick break. My apologies.
We're gonna stop with a bump, bump, bump, And it's
tough on the bees. Find out what how tough is
it on these bees to ship them to these to
California where we may go Talking with the Queen Bee,
Barbie Butcher here on news radio six to ten WTVN.
(18:32):
We're talking yardening here on news radio six to ten.
They get to get that bug out of my throat.
Just trying to eat a couple of flies here, see
what they taste like anyway, Adam, maybe a moth here
and there too. Talking with Barbie Butcher here on news
radio six to ten w tv and she is our
Queen Bee. Talking about the huge bee losses that we
have been experiencing over the last six months or so.
(18:53):
And it's a huge and trying to figure out what's
going on. The question came up, which is kind of
interesting store here is you know what it takes to
ship those bees those colonies from like North Dakota to California.
And bar was explaining that, you know, it's a long trip,
obviously bumpy ride. They're in these hives, I mean, do
(19:14):
they how do they put them on the trucks? I
mean do they have to? Are they covered over? Do
do they see them inside the hives? What do they
do there?
Speaker 2 (19:22):
Well, they can't see them in the hives because they
would suffocate, right, you know, it could be a couple
of really hot days getting down there. So they'll they
keep their hives on palette. You could fit four hives
per pallett, so typically they'll stack them up four high.
So for sets of hives, you could even set them
(19:44):
higher than that, so you can have them four hundred
to four fifty or even six hundred colonies stacked up high.
They'll obviously tie them down, latch them down. Then they
put like either the shrink wrap, it's actually on the pallett,
so it's not close to the hives themselves, I know,
(20:06):
how like the support beams on the truck, so the
bees have air. Of course, they only have a bottom
entrance for air, so they can't plug that up. They
also may put a real fine netting like mosquito netting
over the entire semi the whole back of the semi
so that they're somewhat contained, because there's nothing more alarming
(20:29):
than a truck, you know, a semi coming to a
stop and having bees flying all over the place. Yeah,
we'll have a real fine netting over them to keep
bees contained. Well, they just drive them non stop until
they reach their destination.
Speaker 1 (20:44):
I was going to say, So they keep going till
they get there, and then of course unload, spread them out,
give them time to settle in, and then let them
do their things. So when they're done then I mean,
now you've got all these colonies there at the almond
grove for instance, and like you said, they don't so
what it's all said and done, the pollination time has passed.
(21:05):
Now what do you do with all those colonies?
Speaker 2 (21:07):
So they have to give them out of those those
almond yards quickly because the almond the orchard iss have
to spray them. So they put them in these huge
basically parking lots, and then they'll start sorting through them,
find out which ones are still alive, which ones are healthy.
They sell a lot of them, So we have beekeeper
companies that just sell packages, so you can order like
(21:29):
a package of bees. A lot of them is sold
to them so they'll you know, break them up and
sell them as packages, or they're you know, sold to
a beekeeper down there in California. Only the very best
are sent up to pollination because it's just too expensive
to ship a colony of bees if they're you know, unthrifty.
Speaker 1 (21:52):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (21:53):
So I found out that costs about eight eight thousand
dollars just to ship the bees, like from North Carolina,
North Dakota to California. Wow, it's just to ship it.
Speaker 1 (22:09):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (22:10):
You know it's they're expensive merchandise.
Speaker 1 (22:13):
Yeah, that's a lot. That's a lot of money. So,
you know, so with all that's going on, you know
again you and I are seeing this research out there
using the robobes, the you know, the drone bees that
are out there. Now, what do you think about that
kind of research? I mean, these are these little drones
that are actually able to detect the flowers and the
(22:33):
pollen and actually can go and collect and pollinate. And
they're just a little bit of drones with a couple
of little wings on them and flying around and I
don't know, what do you think.
Speaker 2 (22:43):
Yeah, they're becoming much more efficient. They're finding the flowers.
They don't go to as many flowers before they you know,
go back. They don't mix as many at a time
as a honey bee does. But you know, it's it
certainly helps. The thing is that, you know, the orchard
just have hundreds of thousands of dollars invested in these
acres of almonds, so they they can't just rip up
(23:08):
their almonds to put in like self pollinating almonds that
you hear about. They may not be able to afford
those robobes. And just think of the acres and the
acres of almonds and it's solid almonds, nothing else. So,
you know, but I think the roller bees will help,
but I don't know if they're practical for huge acreages.
Speaker 1 (23:29):
Got it, got it? Great information is always Barbie Bletcher.
I guess Nina Bagley's got the worst. You better start
producing a lot of queen bees right now.
Speaker 2 (23:39):
Yeah, they are all gonna be calling Nina for her queens,
for her queens.
Speaker 1 (23:43):
So I mean, the bottom line is this, we don't
know what's going on yet. Obviously they'll they'll find out,
they'll they'll figure it out. But in the meantime, even
more so from what we've been saying in the past.
Now let's double and triple it. We've got to do
even more what we can to be ee and pollinator
friendly in our yards and gardens and containers.
Speaker 2 (24:03):
Yeah, and let people know how important honeybees are. You
know what we need to preach better. We need not
maybe preach, but we need to advertise ourselves, promote ourselves
how important beekeeping really is, and.
Speaker 1 (24:16):
Get more people involved with bee keeping, no doubt about it,
Barbie but Butcher, always a pleasure of great information. We'll
get together here, we start to see if they've seen,
if they're starting to figure something out. We'll get back
and report to everybody what's going on. I appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (24:29):
Thank you, Ron, thank you.
Speaker 1 (24:30):
All right, all right, take care, Barbie Butcher, our queen
Bee will take another break. We come back. Phone lines.
We're open for you at a two to one w
TV and coming up the top of the hour, Kim
Rowland or yeah, Roman will join us this morning. Her
new book is called How to Garden Indoors and Garden
and Grow your Own Food Indoors year round, pretty neat book.
It's all happen to hear on news Radio six to ten.
(24:51):
WTVN talking your ardening here on news Radio six' ten
w great bumper music provided by our Producer Elle. Up
always appreciate. That not a good story about the, bees
the honey. Bees we'll keep you posted on that and
hopefully they'll figure out what's going on and get that.
(25:12):
Corrected but in the, meantime the pushes on big time
even more than, ever, folks to turn your, containers your window,
boxes you, know your your vegetable garden, planning more flowers out,
there more native, plants native, selections all those pollinator. Plants
butterfly bush it's not or not butterfly, bush, butterflyheed and you, know,
(25:34):
milkweed all those you. Know, again Like joe, said you,
know butterfly gardens aren't just for butterflies. Anymore there for
all the. Pollinators and that's what we need to be doing,
it even more so now to keep our honeybee populations
up and strong and all the pollinators up and, strong
going through this little bit of a, wow pretty major
loss there with those. Honeybees so we'll keep you posted
(25:56):
and you, know find out that hopefully they'll find out
what's going. On back to the guarding Pulle, ane we
shall Go. Dana good, Morning.
Speaker 3 (26:05):
Good. Morning how you, Doing.
Speaker 1 (26:06):
Dana i'm great butt your heir of.
Speaker 3 (26:08):
THIS i would like to see her get with her
her cohorts and see if they can get the USD
a to start uh employing people around The United states
to raise honey bees instead of you, like taking them
from The dakotas Into california to pollinate the Almond why
(26:32):
shouldn't they be right there to where they can pollinate
the almonds as as an all over The United, states
and then they can use uh the honey that has
harvested from the hives to off set some of the
price for taking care of these bees and employing these
people around The United, states and we wouldn't have this.
Speaker 1 (26:54):
Problem, yeah that's a that's a great. Uh And i'm
sure they're all, listening and that's a great, Idea. DAN i,
think you, know somehow we've got to get people more
involved with doing. THIS i think the one situation That
barb did explain to us, was you know why they
don't already have bee colonies there and the almond groves
is that once the almonds are done, flowering the habitat
in that particular area doesn't have enough other pollinator plants
(27:19):
to support these, colonies so they have to bring in
extra bees to pollinate the, almonds but they. Can't the
habitat around him is not supportive enough for all of
the colonies that they need to bring. In so there's
that environmental. Situation but that's not a bad idea to
try to look out. There how can we actually hire
people to start, growing you, know raising more.
Speaker 3 (27:40):
And becoming people to do other. Things it doesn't have
to be in that general area Of, california but it
could be like maybe fifty miles away to Where, sure
maybe there are the flowers they need to sustain themselves
when they're not.
Speaker 1 (27:55):
Pollinating, SURE i think it's a great, Idea, DAN i
appreciate the calling and putting the bug in the.
Speaker 3 (28:00):
Air, okay all, Right, dana good?
Speaker 1 (28:04):
Time and why? NOT i mean that's a that's a of,
COURSE i don't what the cuts that are going through right,
now probably ain't gonna happen for a, while but, yeah
and maybe a situation that it is such an important
thing for, us and maybe that's something that THE usda
has to take a look, at and that could be a.
POSSIBILITY i, mean it's all kinds of things that are
out there that hopefully that we can come up with some.
Answers but in the, meantime you know what's going on
(28:26):
at hand right. Now what can we do right now,
Today and that's you and. Me LIKE i said, earlier
you and me and all of us joining together and
being even more even more pollinator, friendly pollinator, polite be
friendly in our gardens and doing cultural practices in there
that you know that totally support these pollinators and really
(28:47):
focusing in on that and keeping keeping that. Going all,
right we're gonna have to take a break. Here we've
run out of time in this first hour went, quickly
and AGAIN i Appreciate Barb bletcher for joining us this
morning and sharing that information with, us and we will
keep you. Posted she's on top of it all the
time and keeps me informed as, well so we'll keep
you posted on that as soon as we find out
more about. It but please please do everything you can
(29:10):
to help encourage those pollinators in your yards and gardens
and containers as. Well coming up after the, break we're
going to talk To Kim. Roman kim has written a
really cool. BOOK i really enjoyed this one called how
to garden indoors and grow your own food year. Round
we'll talk about that after the break here on news
radio six to TEN. Wtvn
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