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June 5, 2025 • 13 mins

Is your tolerance for alcohol changing as you get older? Do hangovers last for days instead of one afternoon?

Mamamia's Sasha Tannock investigates why our body's ability to process alcohol changes as we age and how to view our alcohol consumption habits as we attempt to find ways of coping that doesn't require us cracking another bottle.

And in headlines today the housemates of missing Qld teen Phoebe Bishop will face court today, charged with her murder; Tasmanians will head to the polls again as a no confidence motion against Premier Jeremy Rockliff is passed; Convicted murderer Chris Dawson will find out today if he has successfully challenged his conviction over the sexual abuse of one of his students; The relationship between Donald Trump and Elon Musk has become openly hostile with Musk saying Trump wouldn't have won the election without him; Hollywood stars Hugh Jackman and Ryan Reynolds are now co-owners of the Aussie SailGP team the BONDS Flying Roos

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Speaker 1 (00:10):
You're listening to Amma Mia podcast. Mamma Mia acknowledges the
traditional owners of land and waters that this podcast is
recorded on Hi. I'm Claire Murphy. This is Mamma MIA's
twice daily news podcast, The Quickie. Have you ever joked
with your girlfriends about how you used to be able
to handle a hangover much better than you do now?

(00:31):
That he used to be like a bit of a
dodgy Sunday morning but a full recovery after a greasy
breakfast and a few waters, only to now suffer for
literal days after a night out. Turns out as you age,
your tolerance for alcohol drops and we'll tell you why.
But first here's the latest from the Quickie newsroom. Friday,
June sixth. The housemaids of missing Queensland teen Phoebe Bishop

(00:53):
will appear in court today after last night being charged
with a seventeen year old's murder. The charges come three
weeks to the day since Phoebe was last seen leaving
her home to head to the airport, where she failed
to board a flight to w WA to visit her boyfriend.
Her body has not yet been located, so if a
police declared two crime scenes one at the home she
was sharing with the two housemates and the car that

(01:14):
is thought to have been what she was taken to
the airport in. In the search for Phoebe, police scoured
an area known as good Night's Scrub, retrieving items believed
to be linked to the investigation, but police have revealed
that evidence may have been moved from the National Park
before their arrival. Thirty four year old James Wood, who
was taken into custody and then released earlier this week,
and thirty three year old Tanika Bromley have now been

(01:37):
charged with Phoebe's murder and two counts of interfering with
a corpse. Phoebe's family have been desperately trying to find her,
her mum posting daily to social media on Wednesday, writing
I don't know if life will ever be the same again.
I don't know if I will ever look at the
world the same way I did before May fifteenth. Tasmanians
are staring down an early election after Premier Jeremy Rocliffe

(01:59):
lost a no confidence motion in Parliament yesterday, which by convention,
demands his resignation. Rockleff remains defiant in the face of
the motion vowing to fight and win the early election,
although it's not yet clear when this will happen, with
mister Rockcliffe seeking to convene Parliament next week to pass
an emergency budget bill. Rockliffe has accused the Tasmanian opposition

(02:19):
leader Labours Dean Winter of a selfish power grab, but
Winter pointed out last month's state budget, which has forecast
a big deficit and ballooning debt beyond ten million dollars
as a reason for his stand against the government, remaining
unmoved by closed doors talks to try and get him
to change his mind. The large dead in part has
been attributed to the new billion dollar AFLs stadium required

(02:40):
for the new Tasmania Devil's team to join the league,
Mister Rockcliffe saying he fought off internal opponents to stand
by the stadium and get electoral reform over the line,
saying while he was advised it was bad for votes,
he said he believed in it and that it was
good for Tasmania. He apologized for the botched rollout of
the new Spirit of Tasmania Ferries and acknowledged the economic challenges,

(03:00):
but says he remains up for the fight. Convicted murderer
Chris Dawson will find out today if he has successfully
challenged his conviction over the sexual abuse of one of
his students. Dawson has already failed in an attempt to
overturn the conviction over the death of his wife, Lynette
in nineteen eighty two, to which he was sentenced to
twenty four years behind bars for the carnal knowledge sentence,

(03:21):
which relates to the relationship with his former student known
as Ab, who later moved into Dawson's home after Lynette disappeared,
added another year to his non parole period. At the
appeal hearing back in March, Dawson's lawyers attempted to cast
doubt on AB's claims that she had been sexually abused
before her seventeenth birthday. Back in nineteen eighty two, when
the crime was committed, the carnal knowledge offense was in place,

(03:44):
and back then someone could only have been convicted if
the complainant is between sixteen and seventeen years old. Dawson's
eighteen year non parole period expires in twenty forty, when
he will be aged ninety one. US President Donald Trump
says he's disappointed by Elon Musk's public opposition to his
sweeping tax cut and spending bill. Trump said Elon and

(04:05):
he had had a great friendship, but doesn't know if
they will anymore. Musk has been a vocal critic of
the Trump Administration's Big Beautiful Bill Act, with some saying
it's due to the bill's cuts to electric vehicle credits,
but Musk says he was fine with the carts as
long as Republicans removed what he referred to as a
mountain of disgusting pork in wasteful spending from the bill.

(04:26):
Musk also claimed that without him, Trump would not have
won the election. He said Dems would control the House
and the Republicans would be fifty one to forty nine
in the Senate. Trump brought Elon Musk in as a
special government employee tasks with reducing wasteful spending by government departments.
The position saw him lay off thousands of government workers
and cut funding to a number of organizations. The carts

(04:47):
saw his popularity drop, with sales of his electric vehicle
Tesla dropping globally. The position came to an end recently,
with Trump thanking Musk for his contribution. But now Trump
has hinted that Musk is now just upset at no
longer being part of the action in Washington, saying people
leave his administration, then at some point they miss it
so badly, and some of them embrace it, and some

(05:07):
of them actually become hostile. Trump commented that Elon had
said the most beautiful things about him, and he hasn't
said anything bad about him personally, but that he's sure
that's coming, saying he's very disappointed in Elon. Hollywood actors
have become obsessed with investing in sailing cruise, with the
latest duo in on the scene putting their money behind
an ossie team. Hugh Jackman and Ryan Reynolds are now

(05:28):
the co owners of Australia's three time champion Sale GP
team that has now been rebranded as The Bond's Flying Ruse.
Jackman and Reynolds released a statement saying they're incredibly excited
to set sail together in this new adventure, Reynolds saying
Hugh brings a deep love for and pride in his
home country, as well as being an avid fan of sailing.
The move comes just days after Oscar winner Anne Hathaway

(05:50):
joined a female lead consort him who bought the Red
Bull Italy SALEGP team. The sport was founded in twenty
nineteen and puts national cruise in identical fifty foot foiling
catamarans that can reach speeds of over fifty four knots
within meters of the shoreline, mostly set against the backdrop
of iconic harbors around the world. The Bond's Flow rus
or Next sailor the New York Grand Prix this weekend,

(06:12):
where they're hoping to remain on top of the leaderboard.
That's what's happening around the world today, Next Mommy, as
Sasha Tannic explains how our tolerance for alcohol changes as
we get older.

Speaker 2 (06:28):
You walk through the door after a hard day's work,
you drop your bag, and before even thinking about what's
for dinner, you reach for a glass of wine to
ease the stress of the day. Perhaps you've just done
the kids, bath and bedtime routine and you need a
little something something to take the edge off, to ease
the monotony of the daily routine, And before you know it,

(06:49):
you've polished off the whole bottle. A message pops up
on WhatsApp, Hey ladies, anyone up for a Sunday afternoon veno.
The replies are instant count me in cheers emoji, nothing
too crazy though it is a school night, or perhaps
it's the weekend. You have a few champagnes. Then it's
more wine with dinner? Should we order another bottle? That

(07:09):
is of course. Suddenly you're waking up from another drinking
session with high level anxiety, a shocking hangover and a
whole lot of regret. Or maybe you're popping some painkillers,
heading off to work and trying to shake off the
brain fog. Sound familiar. So many Ausie women are struggling
to change their relationship with alcohol in a society where

(07:31):
temptations are around every corner and every social event seems
to center around drinking. Research from the Australian Institute of
Health and Welfare shows a third of women aged between
thirty and fifty nine are drinking at risky levels. For
many women, the first signs that alcohol and you might
need to talk about your relationship start creeping in. In

(07:53):
your thirties, you feel it more the next day. You
might have young kids waking up super early and you
just can't drink the way you used to. Then, in
your forties and into your fifties, it really hits harder.
It definitely feels like you can't handle your alcohol as well.
Hangovers are worse even after only a couple of drinks,
and it takes so much longer to recover. So what's

(08:18):
going on? Is it something physical or are we just
getting older? GP and host of Our World podcast, Dr
Mariam Charlan says, the way our body processes alcohol as
we age definitely changes.

Speaker 3 (08:31):
Hangovers can definitely feel worse for females in their forties
and fifties, and there are several physiological reasons for this, so,
first being that our body composition changes as we age.
Muscle mass tends to decrease and our body fat increases.
We know that alcohol is less diluted in fact than
it is in muscles. Blood alcohol concentration can rise more

(08:53):
quickly as we age. Then there's the total body water content,
so our bodies naturally contain less water as we age,
and since alcohol is distributed in body water, less water
means higher concentration of alcohol and the bloodstream liver efficiency
declines with age, even in healthy people, meaning alcohol is
metabolized more slowly. Overall, metabolic rate also slows with age,

(09:16):
so everything, including alcohol, is processed a bit more slowly,
and that means that alcohol and its toxic byproducts such
as astyl aldehyde, they can remain in the body a
little longer, intensifying hangover symptoms. And finally, there are hormonal changes,
so we know estrogen and progesterone levels can fluctuate during perimonopause,
and then there's metopause itself. Some women also report that

(09:38):
alcohol triggers more intense symptoms like hot flushes or sleep disruption.

Speaker 2 (09:43):
We also spoke to clinical psychologists and but Are You
Happy podcast host doctor Anastasia Hernus, who explained why it's
so hard to break that cycle of coming home every
night and rewarding yourself with a glass of wine to relax.

Speaker 4 (09:56):
So alcohol is classified as a depressant. What this means
is that it works by slowing down our brain functioning,
and that can produce a feeling of calmness and sedation.
So it makes sense that if people are busy during
the day working hard, when they come down, they want
to physically and mentally switch off, and alcohol has the

(10:20):
function of calming down the nervous system and making us
feel like we're progressing at a slower and calmer rate.

Speaker 2 (10:28):
Doctor Hernus, who also wrote The dopamin Brain, says stress
and carrying the mental load has a huge role to
play in understanding why some women might become dependent on alcohol.

Speaker 4 (10:39):
If we're busy during the day, juggling kids, jobs, parents, friends,
and all the other demands of life, we naturally want
to find ways to deal with and manage the stress
that we're experiencing day to day. In the long run, however,
we see that that can create a pattern where someone
becomes quite reliant on alcohol in order to feel calmer

(11:00):
and manage their stress in these situations. Essentially, alcohol serves
as a coping mechanism when people are feeling overwhelmed with
the demands of every day life.

Speaker 2 (11:10):
Many women who drink too much would not describe themselves
as addicts or alcoholics, while at the same time really
struggling to break their daily habit. So doctor Herna says
the most important thing is to reflect on your relationship
with alcohol.

Speaker 4 (11:24):
Not everyone who drinks too much is necessarily addicted to alcohol.
It's more helpful for us to think on a spectrum
of harms. So someone can drink too much alcohol and
perhaps they're not classified as having an addiction, but they
can still experience harm in their life. And what that
means is that they have some sort of negative consequence

(11:45):
as a result of drinking alcohol. Now, that could be
negative consequences to their physical health. It might be that
their alcohol consumption is impacting their ability to focus at work,
or the relationship they have with their partner, or their
ability to be present when they're caring for their kids.
So we don't necessarily need to have an addiction to

(12:05):
experience some sort of harm or negative impact as a
rest of alcohol.

Speaker 2 (12:10):
Now, if all of your friendships and social get togethers
revolve around drinking, doctor Herna says, a good option is
to swap your drinks for non alcoholic drinks so you
don't have to miss out on the fun. But doctor
Herna says, if you do decide you need help to
quis or cut back, your GP is the best place
to start.

Speaker 4 (12:28):
If people do recognize that I'm drinking a bit too
much alcohol more than I want to be drinking and
it's causing some problems in my life, I firstly encourage
people to go and seek out assistance from their GP
or a doctor. The reason for this is depending on
how much alcohol someone has been consuming. It's not always

(12:49):
safe to suddenly stop or reduce. If someone has been
drinking at a high level for a long period of
time and they suddenly stop, they can go into withdrawals
and those withdrawals can sometimes be a bit dangerous, so
they need to be able to do that under the
guidance of a health professional.

Speaker 2 (13:07):
So if you are feeling sober curious, there are some
great online communities available to help you explore, including Hello
Sunday Morning and Sober in the Country. They are also
telehealth services available like Clean Slate Clinic, and of course
there's Alcoholics Anonymous, so chat to you GP about the
best options for you.

Speaker 1 (13:26):
Thanks for taking the time to feed your mind with
us today. The Quikie is produced by me Claire Murphy
and our executive producer Taylor Strano, with audio production by
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