May 4, 2025 • 17 mins
Labor's landslide victory has secured Anthony Albanese another three years as Prime Minister.
Meanwhile, Peter Dutton not only failed to win government but lost his own seat of Dickson to Labor's Ali France, leaving the Liberal Party scrambling for new leadership.
So how did we get here? And what happens now in the race to lead the Liberals? It's your 2025 federal election debrief.
And in headlines today The coalition could slump to lowest percentage of seats in parliament since the Liberal party creation in the 1940's; Nationals MP Barnaby Joyce diagnosed with prostate cancer; Brazilian police say they intercepted a plot to set off bombs at Gaga's concert in Rio de Janeiro; Ukraine President Volodymyr Zelensky is calling for allies to put more pressure on Russia to agree to a 30 day ceasefire; Aussie cosplay champion Clare Beaton has taken out the global title in Chicago
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Speaker 1 (00:10):
You're listening to a Muma Mea podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Mumma Mea acknowledges the traditional owners of land and waters
that this podcast is recorded on.
Speaker 3 (00:22):
Hey, I'm Taylor Strano. This is Mumma Mer's twice daily
news podcast, The Quickie. Three more years for Anthony Albanezi
in the top job after a landslide victory for Labor
in the twenty twenty.
Speaker 4 (00:34):
Five federal election.
Speaker 3 (00:36):
Today we're unpacking what happened on Saturday, what it means
for the country's future, and what happens to Peter Dutton
now he's not only lost the election but his seat
at the table. Two before we get there, he is
Clare Murphy with the latest from the Quickie newsroom for
Monday May five.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
Thanks Taylor. As vote counting continues after Saturday's election, the
numbers show the Coalition could slump to its lowest percentage
of seats in Parliament since the formation of the Liberal
Party in the nineteen forties. Seventy five percent of the
votes have now been counted, Labour claiming eighty six seats
in the House of Representatives compared to the coalitions thirty nine.
(01:13):
Fifteen seats are still to be decided but the Coalition
now holds no seats across Metro Adelaide or Perth, and
only a few in Sydney and Melbourne, with now former
Opposition leader Peter Dutton losing his Queensland seat of Dixon
to Ali France. Deputy Leader Susan Lee says it may
be some time before the party room meets to elect
a new leader as they continue to wait for the
(01:33):
outcome of the several seats where proferential counting was still
taking place. Front runners for the position include Deputy Leader
Susan Lee and Opposition front benchers Dan Teene and Andrew Hasty.
Prime Minister Anthony Alberonizi thanks supporters in his inner Western
Sydney electorate before pledging to get back to the job
at hand, saying there'll be a disciplined and orderly government
in their second term, the same as they were in
(01:55):
their first, but that they don't take serving the Australian
people for grunted. Meanwhile, just a day after again winning
his seat of New England in New South Wales, national
MP Barnaby Joyce has revealed he has been diagnosed with
prostate cancer. The fifty eight year old report received the
news after a prostate specific antigen blood test came back
with an elevated result. As subsequent MRI and biopsy confirmed
(02:17):
the diagnosis. He'll undergo surgery today, followed by a short
stay in hospital. Joyce saying prostate cancer court early is
very treatable, saying if he thought it was very serious,
he of course would resign, but his doctors say they've
caught it in the early stages and keeping the diagnosis
quiet until after the election was to avoid it distracting
from the campaign. Brazilian police say they've stopped a bomb
(02:39):
plot targeting a Lady Gaga concert. The police in Rio
di Janeiro, working in coordination with the Justice Ministry, say
that the plot, orchestrated by a group promoting hate speech
and the radicalization of teenagers, planned to set off a
bomb at the Gaga concert at the Rio City Hall
on Saturday, which was attended by two point one million fans.
They revealed that the group, posing as members of Gaga's
(03:02):
global fan base known as the Little Monsters, had been
recruiting participants, including miners, to carry out the attack using
improvised explosives and molotov cocktails. After a tip off, authorities
carried out over a dozen search and seizure warrants, police
arresting the group's leader for a legal possession of a firearm.
Ukrainian President Vladimir Zelenski says a ceasefire with Russia could
(03:23):
be possible at any moment. Zelenski called on Kiev's allies
to apply greater pressure on Moscow to make it happen.
Speaking at a joint news conference in Prague, he said
that unless pressure was applied, Russian leader Vladimir Putin would
take no real steps to end the now three year
old conflict. Putin called for a three day ceasefire to
mark the eightieth anniversary of the victory of the Soviet
(03:44):
Union and its allies in the Second World War, but
Zelenski says such a measure is pointless and has instead
called for a ceasefire lasting at least thirty days, in
line with the US proposal, saying that rather than putting
tanks on display at a May nine victory parade, Putin
should be thinking about how to actually end this war.
Ozzy cosplay champion Claire Beaton has taken out the global
(04:06):
title at one of the biggest pop culture conventions in
the U s Betan, who used to work with her
dad in the Weta FX studio working on movies like
Lord of the Rings, entered the event dressed as Hulsen,
the three hundred year old elf from the video game
boulders Gate, her costume consisting of prosthetic elfeers and scars,
hundreds of embossed leather leaves, and a glowing lantern. Betan,
(04:27):
who now runs her own studio alongside her partner in Adelaide,
will now join the costplayed judging panel at the upcoming
pax OZ convention in Melbourne in October.
Speaker 4 (04:36):
Thanks Claire Next.
Speaker 3 (04:37):
Making Sense of Election twenty twenty five, on Saturday Night,
Ozzie's delivered a decisive verdict, giving Anthony Albertines's Labor government
an increased majority and dealing the coalition its worst defeat
in recent history. While the count is still happening, the
(04:58):
results for Label wasn't just a win, it was a landslide.
Labor is projected to win at least eighty six seats,
surpassing the seventy six needed for a majority in the
House of Representatives. It makes Alban EASi the first Prime
minister to be elected twice since John Howard in two
thousand and four, with Labour not just holding but gaining
(05:18):
seats across the country. But the biggest story of the
night was the loss of Opposition leader Peter Dutton, who
not only failed to win government but lost his own
seat of Dixon to Labour's Ali France, a seat he's
held since two thousand and one. A quick note on
the Labour candidate who unseated the opposition leader. Ali France
(05:39):
is a single mum and disability advocate whose life changed
after she lost her leg saving her young son in
a car accident. She's faced huge personal losses, including the
death of her children's father and her eldest son, but
says that their courage inspired her to keep going. She's
been open about juggling disability, grief and the cost of living,
(05:59):
bringing her lived experience to this new role in parliament.
To read more about Ali France, I've ling Chelsea Hoy's
article on her in Our Show notes. So Our Franz
had successfully unseated Dutton, leaving the Liberal Party without a leader.
They'll now scramble in the coming days and weeks to
host a ballot for the party leadership. So far, it's
been quiet on who could take the top job, but
(06:21):
a few names have been thrown around, including the Shadow
Immigration and Citizenship Minister Dan Tian and Deputy Liberal Leader
Susan Lee. It was an election dominated by cost of
living concerns, with voters sending a clear message about their
economic priorities, but it wasn't just about the hip pocket.
Healthcare funding, climate action and housing affordability all played crucial
(06:42):
roles in shaping the outcome. For the first time ever,
Gen Z and Millennials outnumbered baby boomers at the ballot box,
potentially reshaping Australian politics for years to come and very quickly.
Were you one of the chosen ones to receive countless
trumpet of patriot techts this campaign, Well, they mustn't have
gone very far in your book, or anyone else's for
(07:03):
that matter.
Speaker 4 (07:03):
Clive Palmer's right.
Speaker 3 (07:04):
Wing party didn't manage to win any seats in the
House of Reps or the Senate.
Speaker 4 (07:10):
Back to Saturday Night fighting back to is.
Speaker 3 (07:11):
In his victory speech, Anthony Albanezi flashed his Medicare card
and promised to repay voters trust.
Speaker 4 (07:18):
We take up this task.
Speaker 5 (07:20):
We're new hope, new confidence, a new determination.
Speaker 3 (07:24):
Meantime, Peter Dutton, joined by his family on stage at
Liberal HQ, graciously accepted defeat.
Speaker 6 (07:30):
I also want to say a very very big thank
you tonight, most importantly to the millions of Australia who
supported the Liberal Party the coalition. It's not our night,
as I point out, and there are good members, were
candidates who have lost their seats or their ambition, and
I'm sorry for that. We have an amazing party.
Speaker 4 (07:50):
And we'll rebuild to dive even further.
Speaker 3 (07:52):
We're joined by Newswey Federal Politics, reported Jess Wang, and
associate editor at The Australian Jenna Clark. Jenna, let's start
with you. Where do the Liberals fall down this campaign?
Speaker 1 (08:04):
I don't know how long we've got. The runway to
this election has been quite long considering what they needed
to learn. The lessons from twenty twenty two clearly have
not been learned, and then it really played out in
a really disastrous campaign for the Conservative Party. I think
it was confused. It felt like Peter Dutton was out
there on his own. He was surrounded by no one
(08:26):
in his front bench other than Angus Taylor sort of
chiming in with some really konfuddled economic messaging. I think
they really misread the electorate when it comes to things
like working from home, women, modern families, hell, even energy policy.
So I think it's going to be really interesting to
see if things like nuclear power remain on the menu
for the Liberal Party moving forward. So I think that
(08:47):
there are a lot of lessons to be learned in
this election. Sources say that they need to look back now,
even beyond twenty twenty two and even further to find
out where they're going wrong and where they continue to
go wrong.
Speaker 3 (09:01):
I'm glad that you brought up Angus Taylor, Jenna, because Jess,
I want to ask you. Obviously, the big gap that
is now left in the Liberal Party besides people who've
lost their seats, is Peter Dunton is the leadership.
Speaker 4 (09:12):
Who's going to lead the Libs.
Speaker 5 (09:14):
We've got four names at the moment, so that includes
Dan Tayann Angus Taylor, Susan Lay and Andrew Hasty.
Speaker 7 (09:22):
A couple of interesting points on that. I feel like
with Angus Taylor, it's difficult. One of the main criticisms
of the coalition was that they didn't have a proper
economic policy. He's obviously the shadow Treasurer. I had one
source sort of explained to me like, why would you
want to replay that film? And I think that's a
very good point. Dan Tayanne, he's interesting. He nearly lost
his seat of Wannen to Alex Dyson.
Speaker 5 (09:43):
The idea that maybe you wouldn't want to put in
another MP with a marginal seat and have another thing
happened like with what we saw with Peter Dutton in Dixon.
I think that's a fair assessment of things. I think
at the moment sort of Angus Taylor is sort of
looking like the front runner, but I think it's still
probably too early to tell.
Speaker 3 (10:00):
On the marginal seats. I mean Andrew Hasty as well, Jenna.
You and I've both worked in West Australia in the
news and WA. His seat was quite marginal, one point
two percent margin of the seat of Canning. Until this election.
He has retained his seat. There's been a bit more
of a swing towards the Liberal Party.
Speaker 4 (10:17):
That's a name that might.
Speaker 3 (10:18):
Be quite unfamiliar to a lot of people, though he's
not necessarily been on the front bench or out on
the front foot with the Liberal Party.
Speaker 4 (10:24):
Would he make a good Liberal leader.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
It's interesting because Andrew Hasty is such a discipline sort
of politician, which is quite rare that you see that
these days. He only does media when it's really required
of him. I think a lot of the criticism on
the campaign especially was the fact that this was an
election that was focusing so much on defense. But I
think the proof is sort of in the pudding because
he's really romped home with a swing towards him, which
(10:46):
is really buck the trend when it comes to conservative politics.
When it comes to conservatives, that's probably what you'd expect
from a conservative MP. He's very forthright in his convictions,
and I think that's the interesting part and the great
part about someone like Andrew Hasty. He's actually a politician,
especially on the right side, that has conviction, so you
always sort of know where he's going to fall on
(11:06):
a topic, which I don't think we've seen from the
Libs in quite some time.
Speaker 3 (11:10):
Jess, We've talked a little bit about where the Liberals
fell down, but where did Labor saw this election?
Speaker 4 (11:16):
What is it that really clenched them the victory.
Speaker 5 (11:18):
I think it was the fact that they just had
a really well thought out policy agenda and That really
showed given the fact that by the last week we
still didn't know where the coalition were going to cut
the forty one thousand public sector employees. Anytime they announced
a policy, they had costings, they had the benefit. We
knew what was going on, and it was quite easy
to interpret just from the layperson. You'd know that the
(11:40):
eight point five billion dollars into bulk billing would bring
up bulk billing rates for free GP sessions. You had
the slashing the hex step by twenty percent. They were
just easy to digest policies. They were able to poke
holes in the coalition's agenda. So with nuclear like one
of their main things that they put forward was that
they cut you pay tagline that sort of ran everywhere.
And then also, I guess it's the benefit of being
(12:02):
the sitting government like you do control the books, you
control the bank account, and you've had the three years
to sort of build up your platform.
Speaker 3 (12:09):
Jener. It was quite powerful seeing Albow on election night
holding that Medicare card during his acceptance victory speech. That
was such a cornerstone policy for labor, the focus on healthcare,
and obviously here at Mammamea we look specifically at the
issues that women were concerned with. They told us that
women's health specifically was a big concern. So it feels
(12:29):
like that has come full circling really paid off for
the Labor Government.
Speaker 1 (12:33):
Albo is basically now in the realm of Bob Hawk,
like this is an astounding victory and the fact that
he's won more seats than Kevin Rudd did in seven
is incredible and it just goes to show further suggests
point it is such a disciplined machine. We say we
want to be able to fly on the wall into
the Liberal review. I'd love to be a fly on
the wall just to see how Paul Erickson, who is
(12:54):
the National AOP National secretary, he ran the best campaign
that we've seen because it was just on point Albou
was up and about their strong points are health and
social issues and they articulated them and they executed them
with precision. So props to Labour Party for that.
Speaker 4 (13:10):
That's some big words.
Speaker 3 (13:11):
Comparing Elbow to someone like Hawk. It could chape up
to be part of his legacy when he eventually does
leave parliament. What about Dunton's legacy. What do we think
that he will leave Parliament leave his seat of Dixon
with as the lasting impression.
Speaker 5 (13:25):
I think he can be credited for uniting the Coalition
at a time like he came in after Scott Morrison,
that was a really fractured coalition. The coalition MP's do
say that like he united the party room, he got
people thinking of the same platform. You know, he did
come up with some good policy points. The twenty five
cent cut to the fuel like sise, was really popular,
as evidenced by the many fuel stops that we saw
(13:46):
him visit. I think the final cut was fifteen but
the idea of nuclear, which I think at the Coalition
will still keep pushing forward. His legacy will probably be
defined by the results we saw on Saturday night. I
guess how could they not. It's the worst performance of
the Coalition government in eighty years or so. The fact
that he lost his seat is the huge mark against him.
Speaker 1 (14:05):
Yeah, just to add to that, Jess, I think you're
so right because their primary votes barely on life Supporter
has barely got a polls at this point in time.
Peter Dutton, I think he's been painted in a negative
light pretty much the entirety of his career because he's
been in those strong Man hard Man portfolios, you know,
Home Affairs, Defense, which roles that he relished in. So
it was really hard to unscramble that egg when it
came to all of the horrible nicknames that he was
(14:26):
given by the Internet, which were then amplified by the government.
But I think one thing that we should always remember,
and if you watch him in question Time or within
the Chamber really closely, he was always so forthright in
his support for Indigenous Australians. He was always calling for
a Royal commission into child abuse in Indigenous communities, and
I think that that's one thing that he should definitely
(14:47):
be remembered for. And it definitely had to bipartisan support
when he would speak on that in the Chamber, and
that was really from the heart. So that's one thing
that I hope that he is remembered for when history
is written, probably tomorrow.
Speaker 3 (14:58):
I want to talk just very quickly about the independence,
the tills, the independent community members, whatever we want to
call them. At this stage, all the current sitting Independence
like Jizzali Steggels like you're a legor respenders, They've all
retained their seats.
Speaker 4 (15:11):
They've also picked up one in the Act.
Speaker 3 (15:15):
So the seat of Bean, which is pretty wild considering
Canberra has historically been a labor stronghold. How has Australia
changed their views on independence this election general? Last election cycle,
we saw the Teal wave come and sweep the nation.
What about in twenty twenty five.
Speaker 1 (15:31):
From a female perspective that's probably from like the center's
point of view, I think that there would be a
call now because that's cross bench. It will be inflated
by either an extra one or two tials create a
party already, because if they created a party, I'm pretty
sure they would wipe out the Liberal Party at this
point in time because you look at the caliber of
candidates that they had, and also MPs at are coming
(15:53):
back in like in any type of reality, someone like
a leg Respender would have been the Shadow Treasury spokesperson.
She's talking about great things like tax reform, while the
Lids are sort of kind of even get their messaging straight.
So the positioning on Teals is definitely going to change
because I think the Lids are probably rethinking, hey, they
were once upon a time probably would have been liberal women,
and they need to rewrite this narrative that they did
(16:16):
not leave these women. The Liberal Party left these women, Jess.
Speaker 4 (16:20):
I want to end with you.
Speaker 3 (16:22):
There are a lot of promises from Labor in the
federal budget, in their election campaign, even in Albo's speech
on election night. What should we now keep an eye
out for. They've got three more years to do a
whole lot of stuff. What's sort of the big ticket
items that we should be keeping an eye on.
Speaker 5 (16:38):
The first policy we're going to see pass through Parliament
is going to be the twenty cent cut to HEC stats.
That'll be the first thing that we see. It's a
tangible benefit and I think it will sort of ingratiate
voters to their policy platform. Definitely, what they're doing with medicare,
they're going to be held to a pretty high standard.
People are going to be watching really closely to see
if bolk bieling rates actually tick up. I think they've
(17:00):
given themselves till the end of twenty thirty to reach
that eighty percent target. Some other great policies promised and
pushed is the five percent the home guarantees. So it
means that first home buy is no matter how much
they are, and they can get on the property market
by their first home with just a five percent deposit
and the government guarantees additional fifteen percent, and that means
they don't have to pay lender's mortgage insurance.
Speaker 3 (17:23):
Thanks for taking the time to feed your mind with
us today. The quickie is produced by me Taylor Strano
and Clare Murphy, with audio production by Lou Hill.
You're listening to a Muma Mea podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Mumma Mea acknowledges the traditional owners of land and waters
that this podcast is recorded on.
Speaker 3 (00:22):
Hey, I'm Taylor Strano. This is Mumma Mer's twice daily
news podcast, The Quickie. Three more years for Anthony Albanezi
in the top job after a landslide victory for Labor
in the twenty twenty.
Speaker 4 (00:34):
Five federal election.
Speaker 3 (00:36):
Today we're unpacking what happened on Saturday, what it means
for the country's future, and what happens to Peter Dutton
now he's not only lost the election but his seat
at the table. Two before we get there, he is
Clare Murphy with the latest from the Quickie newsroom for
Monday May five.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
Thanks Taylor. As vote counting continues after Saturday's election, the
numbers show the Coalition could slump to its lowest percentage
of seats in Parliament since the formation of the Liberal
Party in the nineteen forties. Seventy five percent of the
votes have now been counted, Labour claiming eighty six seats
in the House of Representatives compared to the coalitions thirty nine.
(01:13):
Fifteen seats are still to be decided but the Coalition
now holds no seats across Metro Adelaide or Perth, and
only a few in Sydney and Melbourne, with now former
Opposition leader Peter Dutton losing his Queensland seat of Dixon
to Ali France. Deputy Leader Susan Lee says it may
be some time before the party room meets to elect
a new leader as they continue to wait for the
(01:33):
outcome of the several seats where proferential counting was still
taking place. Front runners for the position include Deputy Leader
Susan Lee and Opposition front benchers Dan Teene and Andrew Hasty.
Prime Minister Anthony Alberonizi thanks supporters in his inner Western
Sydney electorate before pledging to get back to the job
at hand, saying there'll be a disciplined and orderly government
in their second term, the same as they were in
(01:55):
their first, but that they don't take serving the Australian
people for grunted. Meanwhile, just a day after again winning
his seat of New England in New South Wales, national
MP Barnaby Joyce has revealed he has been diagnosed with
prostate cancer. The fifty eight year old report received the
news after a prostate specific antigen blood test came back
with an elevated result. As subsequent MRI and biopsy confirmed
(02:17):
the diagnosis. He'll undergo surgery today, followed by a short
stay in hospital. Joyce saying prostate cancer court early is
very treatable, saying if he thought it was very serious,
he of course would resign, but his doctors say they've
caught it in the early stages and keeping the diagnosis
quiet until after the election was to avoid it distracting
from the campaign. Brazilian police say they've stopped a bomb
(02:39):
plot targeting a Lady Gaga concert. The police in Rio
di Janeiro, working in coordination with the Justice Ministry, say
that the plot, orchestrated by a group promoting hate speech
and the radicalization of teenagers, planned to set off a
bomb at the Gaga concert at the Rio City Hall
on Saturday, which was attended by two point one million fans.
They revealed that the group, posing as members of Gaga's
(03:02):
global fan base known as the Little Monsters, had been
recruiting participants, including miners, to carry out the attack using
improvised explosives and molotov cocktails. After a tip off, authorities
carried out over a dozen search and seizure warrants, police
arresting the group's leader for a legal possession of a firearm.
Ukrainian President Vladimir Zelenski says a ceasefire with Russia could
(03:23):
be possible at any moment. Zelenski called on Kiev's allies
to apply greater pressure on Moscow to make it happen.
Speaking at a joint news conference in Prague, he said
that unless pressure was applied, Russian leader Vladimir Putin would
take no real steps to end the now three year
old conflict. Putin called for a three day ceasefire to
mark the eightieth anniversary of the victory of the Soviet
(03:44):
Union and its allies in the Second World War, but
Zelenski says such a measure is pointless and has instead
called for a ceasefire lasting at least thirty days, in
line with the US proposal, saying that rather than putting
tanks on display at a May nine victory parade, Putin
should be thinking about how to actually end this war.
Ozzy cosplay champion Claire Beaton has taken out the global
(04:06):
title at one of the biggest pop culture conventions in
the U s Betan, who used to work with her
dad in the Weta FX studio working on movies like
Lord of the Rings, entered the event dressed as Hulsen,
the three hundred year old elf from the video game
boulders Gate, her costume consisting of prosthetic elfeers and scars,
hundreds of embossed leather leaves, and a glowing lantern. Betan,
(04:27):
who now runs her own studio alongside her partner in Adelaide,
will now join the costplayed judging panel at the upcoming
pax OZ convention in Melbourne in October.
Speaker 4 (04:36):
Thanks Claire Next.
Speaker 3 (04:37):
Making Sense of Election twenty twenty five, on Saturday Night,
Ozzie's delivered a decisive verdict, giving Anthony Albertines's Labor government
an increased majority and dealing the coalition its worst defeat
in recent history. While the count is still happening, the
(04:58):
results for Label wasn't just a win, it was a landslide.
Labor is projected to win at least eighty six seats,
surpassing the seventy six needed for a majority in the
House of Representatives. It makes Alban EASi the first Prime
minister to be elected twice since John Howard in two
thousand and four, with Labour not just holding but gaining
(05:18):
seats across the country. But the biggest story of the
night was the loss of Opposition leader Peter Dutton, who
not only failed to win government but lost his own
seat of Dixon to Labour's Ali France, a seat he's
held since two thousand and one. A quick note on
the Labour candidate who unseated the opposition leader. Ali France
(05:39):
is a single mum and disability advocate whose life changed
after she lost her leg saving her young son in
a car accident. She's faced huge personal losses, including the
death of her children's father and her eldest son, but
says that their courage inspired her to keep going. She's
been open about juggling disability, grief and the cost of living,
(05:59):
bringing her lived experience to this new role in parliament.
To read more about Ali France, I've ling Chelsea Hoy's
article on her in Our Show notes. So Our Franz
had successfully unseated Dutton, leaving the Liberal Party without a leader.
They'll now scramble in the coming days and weeks to
host a ballot for the party leadership. So far, it's
been quiet on who could take the top job, but
(06:21):
a few names have been thrown around, including the Shadow
Immigration and Citizenship Minister Dan Tian and Deputy Liberal Leader
Susan Lee. It was an election dominated by cost of
living concerns, with voters sending a clear message about their
economic priorities, but it wasn't just about the hip pocket.
Healthcare funding, climate action and housing affordability all played crucial
(06:42):
roles in shaping the outcome. For the first time ever,
Gen Z and Millennials outnumbered baby boomers at the ballot box,
potentially reshaping Australian politics for years to come and very quickly.
Were you one of the chosen ones to receive countless
trumpet of patriot techts this campaign, Well, they mustn't have
gone very far in your book, or anyone else's for
(07:03):
that matter.
Speaker 4 (07:03):
Clive Palmer's right.
Speaker 3 (07:04):
Wing party didn't manage to win any seats in the
House of Reps or the Senate.
Speaker 4 (07:10):
Back to Saturday Night fighting back to is.
Speaker 3 (07:11):
In his victory speech, Anthony Albanezi flashed his Medicare card
and promised to repay voters trust.
Speaker 4 (07:18):
We take up this task.
Speaker 5 (07:20):
We're new hope, new confidence, a new determination.
Speaker 3 (07:24):
Meantime, Peter Dutton, joined by his family on stage at
Liberal HQ, graciously accepted defeat.
Speaker 6 (07:30):
I also want to say a very very big thank
you tonight, most importantly to the millions of Australia who
supported the Liberal Party the coalition. It's not our night,
as I point out, and there are good members, were
candidates who have lost their seats or their ambition, and
I'm sorry for that. We have an amazing party.
Speaker 4 (07:50):
And we'll rebuild to dive even further.
Speaker 3 (07:52):
We're joined by Newswey Federal Politics, reported Jess Wang, and
associate editor at The Australian Jenna Clark. Jenna, let's start
with you. Where do the Liberals fall down this campaign?
Speaker 1 (08:04):
I don't know how long we've got. The runway to
this election has been quite long considering what they needed
to learn. The lessons from twenty twenty two clearly have
not been learned, and then it really played out in
a really disastrous campaign for the Conservative Party. I think
it was confused. It felt like Peter Dutton was out
there on his own. He was surrounded by no one
(08:26):
in his front bench other than Angus Taylor sort of
chiming in with some really konfuddled economic messaging. I think
they really misread the electorate when it comes to things
like working from home, women, modern families, hell, even energy policy.
So I think it's going to be really interesting to
see if things like nuclear power remain on the menu
for the Liberal Party moving forward. So I think that
(08:47):
there are a lot of lessons to be learned in
this election. Sources say that they need to look back now,
even beyond twenty twenty two and even further to find
out where they're going wrong and where they continue to
go wrong.
Speaker 3 (09:01):
I'm glad that you brought up Angus Taylor, Jenna, because Jess,
I want to ask you. Obviously, the big gap that
is now left in the Liberal Party besides people who've
lost their seats, is Peter Dunton is the leadership.
Speaker 4 (09:12):
Who's going to lead the Libs.
Speaker 5 (09:14):
We've got four names at the moment, so that includes
Dan Tayann Angus Taylor, Susan Lay and Andrew Hasty.
Speaker 7 (09:22):
A couple of interesting points on that. I feel like
with Angus Taylor, it's difficult. One of the main criticisms
of the coalition was that they didn't have a proper
economic policy. He's obviously the shadow Treasurer. I had one
source sort of explained to me like, why would you
want to replay that film? And I think that's a
very good point. Dan Tayanne, he's interesting. He nearly lost
his seat of Wannen to Alex Dyson.
Speaker 5 (09:43):
The idea that maybe you wouldn't want to put in
another MP with a marginal seat and have another thing
happened like with what we saw with Peter Dutton in Dixon.
I think that's a fair assessment of things. I think
at the moment sort of Angus Taylor is sort of
looking like the front runner, but I think it's still
probably too early to tell.
Speaker 3 (10:00):
On the marginal seats. I mean Andrew Hasty as well, Jenna.
You and I've both worked in West Australia in the
news and WA. His seat was quite marginal, one point
two percent margin of the seat of Canning. Until this election.
He has retained his seat. There's been a bit more
of a swing towards the Liberal Party.
Speaker 4 (10:17):
That's a name that might.
Speaker 3 (10:18):
Be quite unfamiliar to a lot of people, though he's
not necessarily been on the front bench or out on
the front foot with the Liberal Party.
Speaker 4 (10:24):
Would he make a good Liberal leader.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
It's interesting because Andrew Hasty is such a discipline sort
of politician, which is quite rare that you see that
these days. He only does media when it's really required
of him. I think a lot of the criticism on
the campaign especially was the fact that this was an
election that was focusing so much on defense. But I
think the proof is sort of in the pudding because
he's really romped home with a swing towards him, which
(10:46):
is really buck the trend when it comes to conservative politics.
When it comes to conservatives, that's probably what you'd expect
from a conservative MP. He's very forthright in his convictions,
and I think that's the interesting part and the great
part about someone like Andrew Hasty. He's actually a politician,
especially on the right side, that has conviction, so you
always sort of know where he's going to fall on
(11:06):
a topic, which I don't think we've seen from the
Libs in quite some time.
Speaker 3 (11:10):
Jess, We've talked a little bit about where the Liberals
fell down, but where did Labor saw this election?
Speaker 4 (11:16):
What is it that really clenched them the victory.
Speaker 5 (11:18):
I think it was the fact that they just had
a really well thought out policy agenda and That really
showed given the fact that by the last week we
still didn't know where the coalition were going to cut
the forty one thousand public sector employees. Anytime they announced
a policy, they had costings, they had the benefit. We
knew what was going on, and it was quite easy
to interpret just from the layperson. You'd know that the
(11:40):
eight point five billion dollars into bulk billing would bring
up bulk billing rates for free GP sessions. You had
the slashing the hex step by twenty percent. They were
just easy to digest policies. They were able to poke
holes in the coalition's agenda. So with nuclear like one
of their main things that they put forward was that
they cut you pay tagline that sort of ran everywhere.
And then also, I guess it's the benefit of being
(12:02):
the sitting government like you do control the books, you
control the bank account, and you've had the three years
to sort of build up your platform.
Speaker 3 (12:09):
Jener. It was quite powerful seeing Albow on election night
holding that Medicare card during his acceptance victory speech. That
was such a cornerstone policy for labor, the focus on healthcare,
and obviously here at Mammamea we look specifically at the
issues that women were concerned with. They told us that
women's health specifically was a big concern. So it feels
(12:29):
like that has come full circling really paid off for
the Labor Government.
Speaker 1 (12:33):
Albo is basically now in the realm of Bob Hawk,
like this is an astounding victory and the fact that
he's won more seats than Kevin Rudd did in seven
is incredible and it just goes to show further suggests
point it is such a disciplined machine. We say we
want to be able to fly on the wall into
the Liberal review. I'd love to be a fly on
the wall just to see how Paul Erickson, who is
(12:54):
the National AOP National secretary, he ran the best campaign
that we've seen because it was just on point Albou
was up and about their strong points are health and
social issues and they articulated them and they executed them
with precision. So props to Labour Party for that.
Speaker 4 (13:10):
That's some big words.
Speaker 3 (13:11):
Comparing Elbow to someone like Hawk. It could chape up
to be part of his legacy when he eventually does
leave parliament. What about Dunton's legacy. What do we think
that he will leave Parliament leave his seat of Dixon
with as the lasting impression.
Speaker 5 (13:25):
I think he can be credited for uniting the Coalition
at a time like he came in after Scott Morrison,
that was a really fractured coalition. The coalition MP's do
say that like he united the party room, he got
people thinking of the same platform. You know, he did
come up with some good policy points. The twenty five
cent cut to the fuel like sise, was really popular,
as evidenced by the many fuel stops that we saw
(13:46):
him visit. I think the final cut was fifteen but
the idea of nuclear, which I think at the Coalition
will still keep pushing forward. His legacy will probably be
defined by the results we saw on Saturday night. I
guess how could they not. It's the worst performance of
the Coalition government in eighty years or so. The fact
that he lost his seat is the huge mark against him.
Speaker 1 (14:05):
Yeah, just to add to that, Jess, I think you're
so right because their primary votes barely on life Supporter
has barely got a polls at this point in time.
Peter Dutton, I think he's been painted in a negative
light pretty much the entirety of his career because he's
been in those strong Man hard Man portfolios, you know,
Home Affairs, Defense, which roles that he relished in. So
it was really hard to unscramble that egg when it
came to all of the horrible nicknames that he was
(14:26):
given by the Internet, which were then amplified by the government.
But I think one thing that we should always remember,
and if you watch him in question Time or within
the Chamber really closely, he was always so forthright in
his support for Indigenous Australians. He was always calling for
a Royal commission into child abuse in Indigenous communities, and
I think that that's one thing that he should definitely
(14:47):
be remembered for. And it definitely had to bipartisan support
when he would speak on that in the Chamber, and
that was really from the heart. So that's one thing
that I hope that he is remembered for when history
is written, probably tomorrow.
Speaker 3 (14:58):
I want to talk just very quickly about the independence,
the tills, the independent community members, whatever we want to
call them. At this stage, all the current sitting Independence
like Jizzali Steggels like you're a legor respenders, They've all
retained their seats.
Speaker 4 (15:11):
They've also picked up one in the Act.
Speaker 3 (15:15):
So the seat of Bean, which is pretty wild considering
Canberra has historically been a labor stronghold. How has Australia
changed their views on independence this election general? Last election cycle,
we saw the Teal wave come and sweep the nation.
What about in twenty twenty five.
Speaker 1 (15:31):
From a female perspective that's probably from like the center's
point of view, I think that there would be a
call now because that's cross bench. It will be inflated
by either an extra one or two tials create a
party already, because if they created a party, I'm pretty
sure they would wipe out the Liberal Party at this
point in time because you look at the caliber of
candidates that they had, and also MPs at are coming
(15:53):
back in like in any type of reality, someone like
a leg Respender would have been the Shadow Treasury spokesperson.
She's talking about great things like tax reform, while the
Lids are sort of kind of even get their messaging straight.
So the positioning on Teals is definitely going to change
because I think the Lids are probably rethinking, hey, they
were once upon a time probably would have been liberal women,
and they need to rewrite this narrative that they did
(16:16):
not leave these women. The Liberal Party left these women, Jess.
Speaker 4 (16:20):
I want to end with you.
Speaker 3 (16:22):
There are a lot of promises from Labor in the
federal budget, in their election campaign, even in Albo's speech
on election night. What should we now keep an eye
out for. They've got three more years to do a
whole lot of stuff. What's sort of the big ticket
items that we should be keeping an eye on.
Speaker 5 (16:38):
The first policy we're going to see pass through Parliament
is going to be the twenty cent cut to HEC stats.
That'll be the first thing that we see. It's a
tangible benefit and I think it will sort of ingratiate
voters to their policy platform. Definitely, what they're doing with medicare,
they're going to be held to a pretty high standard.
People are going to be watching really closely to see
if bolk bieling rates actually tick up. I think they've
(17:00):
given themselves till the end of twenty thirty to reach
that eighty percent target. Some other great policies promised and
pushed is the five percent the home guarantees. So it
means that first home buy is no matter how much
they are, and they can get on the property market
by their first home with just a five percent deposit
and the government guarantees additional fifteen percent, and that means
they don't have to pay lender's mortgage insurance.
Speaker 3 (17:23):
Thanks for taking the time to feed your mind with
us today. The quickie is produced by me Taylor Strano
and Clare Murphy, with audio production by Lou Hill.
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