June 22, 2025 • 17 mins
Beauty lovers, prepare for some seriously questionable advice – Leigh and Kelly are tackling the blurry lip trend that's taking over your feeds! From Korean beauty brands serving up "mellow blurring lip pencils" to Leigh's latest obsession: a fake silicone finger for perfect lip application (because apparently using your actual finger is too pedestrian when you're in the back of a taxi, obviously).
We chat layering serums, always go thinnest to thickest, but what happens when you genuinely can't tell which is which? Plus, winter tanning hacks that don't require full-body commitment (because who has time for that?), and Leigh's accidental discovery of the powder-foundation-powder sandwich technique that had strangers asking questions.
LINKS TO EVERYTHING MENTIONED:
Fwee Finger Like Lip Brush $10.39
CLIO Hug BlurTint $21.38
Holika Holika Mellow Blurring Lip Pencil $14.42
Fwee Lip and Cheek Blurry Pudding $26.91
Naturium Advanced Multi Peptide Serum $49.95
La Roche-Posay B5 Hyaluronic Serum $74.95
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Speaker 1 (00:10):
You're listening to a MoMA Mia podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
Mamma Mia acknowledges the traditional owners of land and waters
that this podcast is recorded on.
Speaker 1 (00:20):
Makeup is My Therapy.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
I'm in love, I'm obsessed and I don't even feel
guilty of body. Hello and welcome to Your Beauty, the
daily podcast for Your Face. I'm Lee Campbell, I'm Kelly
mccaren and it's Monday. As you know on Mondays. If
you're a regular, we answer two ubi questions, Kel how
have you boss?
Speaker 1 (00:40):
Well, you can email us you beauty at MoMA mia
dot com dot are you damn us? On Insta asking
the Facebook group wherever you send it, We will probably
find it and hopefully include it in the episode. So
let's get into it.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
I couldn't help, but.
Speaker 1 (00:53):
Wonder ask me anything, you ask any questions? All right?
So Lee Hayley slid into our dms Lee and Kelly.
I keep seeing those blurry, soft focused lips all over
social media lately. Apparently we're ditching super precise slip liners
from a few years ago for something more diffused and
natural looking. I'm really intrigued, but I have no idea
(01:16):
where to start. Are there specific blurry lip liners I
should look for or can I create this effect with
products I already own? Both?
Speaker 2 (01:25):
The answer is both yes, Kelly, this is what I
know you're going to say, Jesse, is what you've got,
But you're a sucker for a new trend and a
new thing in a new.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
I know, but I also love to use and find
things at home that I've already got.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
True. I'm just opening some links to tell you the
name of products that I love for this. It's basically
a kbd J beauty trend, which is all when I
say trend, it's really big there. It's all about that
sort of blurred, diffused, kind of stained almost bitten into
a cherry cherr cherry stain, and they've just like stained
to the inside of your lips, yes, and then like
(02:01):
blurred a little bit outwards, and it's just like, oh,
I love it.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
I love and bitter cherry.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
It's kind of like not the it's the glasskinting for lips,
but you know how the kind of cave and it's
just sort of like floor glassy like diffuse, no real lines.
So the products I've tried Holocoholica, there was another product
from them I love. I can't remember what it was.
The format name is the Mellow Blurring lip pencil. There's
a bunch of shades. I got mine on Yes Style
for twelve dollars. I think really good. So if you've
(02:31):
got a W Cosmetics near you or jump online, you
can try all of these. Kel's then going to tell
you how to just diy yourself at home. Cleo. I've
always wondered if I'm pronouncing that right. Cee l Io.
Another Korean brand, Hug Lip Blur Tint Like. The names
are so delicious that also just gives you that kind
of you know, I wish I won one one more
(02:53):
I want to tell you about, But then I've got
to tell you about the best thing I've ever bought
from W Cosmetics to do this with the stuff you've
got at home. This is the fue Fweee. I wish
it was fwee lip and cheek blurry pudding pots.
Speaker 1 (03:09):
I've got that at home. It's so pro so live.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
James got me onto those who's been to bed Wednesdays
with Sarah Marie. It's kind of like it's like like
a moosy Oh so delicious. Yes, but that's the pot,
so you'd have to stick your finger in it, which
is fine, but.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
Could go like you could kiss it. That's real bad
for the bacter of it.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
You could go. Also, they're so little, you'd have to
be a magic get libs in there.
Speaker 1 (03:30):
You just get the center, wouldn't you.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
Yeah, so weird. Okay, So what I bought is also
by FWII, and it is the FUII. It is the FUII.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
You sound like my three run me too.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
I mean that's what I thought, the Fui fingerlike lip brush.
Now I didn't bring it, because of course I didn't,
but we'll put it up on the screen for those
watching on YouTube because there's different versions.
Speaker 1 (03:55):
But it's like a little oh you have brought this
in before?
Speaker 2 (03:58):
Well that was I lost that one. So I've got
this new one.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
It's like a little tiny dome made of like silicon
or something. It was really bouncy. So what I've been
doing is using my regular old Charlotte to a your
Revolution lip liner. But then I use this fake finger,
a fake finger, and then you just kind of.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
Lee loves to shop so much that instead of just
using her finger, she buys a fake finger.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
Okay, firstly, if you are maintaining this lookout. You're in
the back of a taxi. You're, you know, wearing a
beautiful ball gown. I don't know why, and you're in
the bathroom and you want to redo your lip, but
then blur it out. Then you don't have color and
your finger that could transfer to your beautiful.
Speaker 1 (04:34):
Light wash my hands.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
You're in the back of a taxi. Wipes, so I
don't have wipe something on my way to my wedding. Okay, sorry,
Also it just the texture is beautiful and so also
you can put like a bit of lipstick in the
middle of your lip and then she would it out. Okay,
take over.
Speaker 1 (04:51):
No, they were all really good to just I.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
Mean it ten dollars. Everyone needs a free finger.
Speaker 1 (04:56):
Free finger. All of like everything that's marketed as blurring
and this sort of lip product, it's just a lip product.
So just whatever you like, like, go shop if you
love shopping and you want a new lip product. But
they'll just do the same thing. It's about how you
apply it for.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
A blurred like I don't think you could use the
like those products I mentioned earlier to get a really
precise punchy lip. No, you could use your punchy lip
to get a blurred exactly backwards, which is why I.
Speaker 1 (05:24):
Would if you could only buy one product, I would
rather just buy an average lip product.
Speaker 2 (05:28):
Not a free finger.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
Not a free finger, so I would just stop sharpening
my pencils, Like if you've got a lip liner that
isn't yeah, so you could just not sharpen it, and
then you're always going to just have that sort of
diffused look that you would get with a FUII finger
because it's not precise and you're sort of just like
lining it like it's a crayon, and then you can
(05:51):
just fill in your entire lip, or just what you
could use is your actual finger with just any old
matte lips product or velvet velvety, just to sort of
like blend it into your lips. Just too precise and
not too rich and don't texture product exactly, and it's
just going to give you that sort of blurred stained look.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
Yes, I love it. I'm into it. I think it's flattering.
I think it's not too high maintenance like you, Kelly. Okay,
So coming up after the break, a question from a
UBI who wants to know how on earth she's supposed
to know how.
Speaker 1 (06:29):
Thin her products are I love this question so much.
It's diet culture for products basically. Okay, I'm going to
read this question up first, and then I'm going to
tell you why I love it so much.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
I'm going to tell you why I don't. Well, I
think it's a silly theory. No the question though, I
think it's no question. I do, but I think the
theory is silly.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
Hi, I have a question for Lee and Kelly about
layering serums. This is from Lauren. I know the rule
is layering from thinnest to thickest, but sometimes I can't
tell which is thicker? Am I crazy? For example, how
would I layer the Notarium advanced multi peptide serum and
the Laroche pise B five hyaluronic serum. When I try
to figure out which is thinner, I just can't. I've
been listening to a podcast for years. Thank you for
(07:12):
all of your great content.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
Would you like me to go first? Or would you
like to go first? No?
Speaker 1 (07:16):
You tell me so you don't like the theory about
thinness to figure it?
Speaker 2 (07:19):
I stink there's just such a huge caveat because someone
could go and get seven serums and then try and
work it out. She doesn't really need both of these.
Speaker 1 (07:31):
If you're going to layer that, it might be skin flooding.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
I understand that. But if you're going to layer the
neturium advance multipeptide serum and then the Lrooshia, say B
five holonic, I would do neturium advance multipeptide. Then I
would do the holonic generally, because you know the jury's out,
but hylonic layer over something moist helps suck in them.
Speaker 1 (07:51):
Suck in that peronic.
Speaker 2 (07:53):
However, it won't be a massive disaster if you do
it the other way around. But this doesn't always apply
because it depends on what's in the ingredients of these products.
Because you do not want to be layering a vitamin
A and a vitamin C, or maybe you do, but
it depends on when and also your in resilience. There's
some ingredients that really don't play well together. So even
(08:15):
if you've got a thin and then a thicker and
you work it out, they should probably not be layered
in the same day, well morning or night. So I
think it's less about the consistency and more about the
routine as a whole, and what boxes are you ticking
Antioxidants or vitamin A or chemical exfoliance.
Speaker 1 (08:33):
But let's just say that she knows not to use
like a retino with a vitamin C. Yeah, but because
she's been listening, but which you can, but then there's caveats. Yeah,
so well I wouldn't use both of those, would you. Yeah?
If I was like my skin it is winter in
Australia and sinding it so cold, My skin is so dry,
so like my steps, okay, when I'm doing my skin
(08:53):
care properly a hectic it.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
Also, I think depends on, like you say, you're looking
at your individual products. So I've got some products that
say they're in essence. One feels like water and another
one almost feels like a moisturizer.
Speaker 1 (09:04):
Yeah, so use common sense then. But if there's two
products that you really asked struggling to tell apart, like
what is the thinnest, I just wouldn't overthink it too much.
Speaker 2 (09:14):
True, like they're both lovely products. You can do it
more probably better practice as a peptide on first before
purely hydrate, and it's not going to make that much
of a difference, So just don't overthink it.
Speaker 1 (09:23):
It's when something's like obviously thicker that then that's what
you just use a common sense and say, okay.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
Well yes, and I guess the oil content because oil
is more of a barrier. So yeah, remember you're my
little analogy with the water, and it didn't quite worked
at home when I was practicing alas. Also, I just think,
listen to your skin, like Kelly was saying, she's really dry.
I've got some products that are questable which way you
could lay them in that there's no right or wrong,
so you're not doing it wrong. You can do whichever
(09:50):
you want.
Speaker 1 (09:50):
But sometimes so it's skincare guys, Like at the end
of the day, if you want to put it on
a moistus first go for gold. You just might be
wasting your money in terms of something not penetrating into
your and always sunscreen very very last be for makeup,
but I kind of work. I'll try both and see
which finish are like better. Particular form wearing makeup on
top because one might be a bit tacky, so then
the thing up on top, we'll kind of take that
(10:12):
tackiness the way, maybe a white tackiness because it can
kind of act like a prim glimmer. Yeah, so just
have a play, but just definitely line up your whatever
morning or night as a routine, and check out the ingredients.
You don't want lots of actives, too many exolence, But
if it's.
Speaker 2 (10:26):
Just hydration peptides, go for gold flood that skin cysts.
There are a couple of things you do need to
be careful of, and of course there's caveats with that
because it depends on the percentage in the ingredients.
Speaker 1 (10:37):
Because sometimes you know it'll be don't use this in this,
and then a brand will be like sake, we've formulated
it with both, which and it actually is fine.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
Everyone said you can't combine a nice cinemame with vitamin C.
Then brands came out with them combined.
Speaker 1 (10:50):
You can't use retinol in the morning. Then Elizabeth Arden
were like, yes, here's the HPR crime.
Speaker 2 (10:54):
Yes, and it depends on you know, the stability the percentage.
But I think it's like, think of it like you're
cooking a massive cake morning or night whatever. You don't
want to have egg in that one, then a little
bit of egg in that one, and then some egg
in that. You need to look at your routine as
a whole, regardless of consistency, because you don't want to have,
(11:14):
you know, vitamin C in every step or exfoliance in
every step. So it's less about consistency, be product and
what ingredients are in there in a hole what they're
asking your skin to do.
Speaker 1 (11:25):
Yes, exactly, good one. Okay, Now after the break, I'm
quite upset about what Lee is going to suggest putting
under foundation my host tax Hunters for you, Kelly, I know,
but I'm your audience at the moment.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
What a pack?
Speaker 1 (11:47):
You makeup packs?
Speaker 2 (11:49):
All right? Will you go first? Muty pants? What's your fabulous?
Factually finance really not that exciting. So if you like
to tan in the winter or excuse me, we don't
ten any time? Fake Okay when I say ten, I
obviously mean a fake ten. But say, like, I personally
would never wear a.
Speaker 1 (12:10):
Short skirt without stockings or some sort of fake tan
on my legs because I've got like there's just a
lot of discoloration of veins and it just makes you
feel good. It's just not pretty down there.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
And so the t for anyone else, it's for you, No, no, no,
it's literally just for me.
Speaker 1 (12:25):
The tan just kind of like evens out my skin tone, right,
like whether that be your arms or whatever part of
your body that you prefer to have a little bit
of a glow, even in the middle of winter. I
didn't even my arms, But who can be bothered fake
tanning in winter? I don't even like it's so cold.
Speaker 2 (12:44):
The other day I wore a long skirt, but I knew,
like when I walked to you might be have a
seat ankle, so I just gradual tan to that exactly.
Speaker 1 (12:51):
Tip exactly. Oh yeah, so it's not really a tip.
It's just to remind it you do not have to
tan your entire body. Think about your outfit. All you
need to do is not even ten just a little
bit bit of instant. You don't even have to actually
put a ten on. If you've got a shade of
foundation that's a little bit darker from summer, a pump
that in with some Sally hands and or just anything
(13:13):
you've got home, and then a little bit of moisturizer. Yeah,
shmear it on the body part that's exposed, even if
it is just one ankle. Yeah, you know, I said,
things have a split sea of one legs.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
God my life is that?
Speaker 1 (13:22):
Or like if you're wearing long boots, so I might
then just do like that much of my thigh me too,
so oh, I'll never do it. And then it was
just straight off. When you have a shower, you sometimes
need to give it a bit, like use a washer
or something.
Speaker 2 (13:34):
Depends on what you're using. And for me fight because
I like a lot of creams and white so and
I'll do it. I mean I haven't done today. Look
at that sun damage. But I'll often just do this
area with a bit of coverage, and then I just
use a setting like a translucent powder to set it
before I put my cream or white top on. Exactly
all right, go on, what do you want me to
do with powder? Kelly doesn't like my host ac Let
me explain something.
Speaker 1 (13:54):
I have seen it on TikTok before, and some people
that oily swear by it.
Speaker 2 (13:58):
Okay, I discovered it by accient. It's got nothing to
do with TikTok. The other day I put on a
foundation and then I put on setting powder like translucent whatever.
I can't Oh, I was trying a new sunscreen that
was way too jewy for me. So even though my
foundation is normally wonderful, my setting, like everything normally would
work in that equation, but the sunscreen was new and
(14:20):
made everything too dewey. Went about my day for a
few hours and it had to go touch up, and
I'd had to like I was doing some filming, and
I'd had to like occasionally translucent throughout the day just
because it was like shine city, I could have like
pried chips on my face. So then anyway, I was like,
oh God, I've got to go somewhere do something. What
am I going to do all this face? And then
I put a bit more foundation in the areas that
(14:42):
needed it. But because I'd had a couple of layers
of setting powder, it then turned like it just turned
into this filtered, fabulous tes So is that the theory
because I did I haven't seen this.
Speaker 1 (14:51):
Yeah, some makeup artists do it.
Speaker 2 (14:53):
So would put a setting power like a translucent powder,
then foundation yea, and it makes a dewey foundation, velvety.
Speaker 1 (15:00):
Yes, and it just makes your skin look really blurred,
lawless and almost like filter it.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
I thought I invented this by accident, but it is only.
Speaker 1 (15:09):
For people like if I did that, my face would
simply just crossed and stuff flaking off hair.
Speaker 2 (15:17):
You probably never have this problem, but combo girls will
find because you know you're combining serums with moisturizes, with
sunscreens and then your coverage or whatever. That oftentimes one
step too far and you go from dewey and glowey
to greasy. So this is a great way to go back,
but then without having to be really matt and powdery. Yes,
it was so good my face. I went, oh, I
(15:38):
was not feeling great after a night out anyway, and
went to kids party and literally three people said, oh
my god, what are you using on your skin? And
I was like, I accidentally use the wrong thing, and
I U use and they also, your skin looks phenomenal. Yep,
so that's my trick.
Speaker 1 (15:52):
Yeah, I was dissing it, but it's really good for
the oily.
Speaker 2 (15:56):
If you've just gone to dewey, do it.
Speaker 1 (15:59):
I think it goes to show. It's such a good
example of actually no rules. You can literally do whatever
you want makeup.
Speaker 2 (16:08):
I would never be bothered to put on my make
then do powder, then do more makeup. But it kind
of brought my face back better than ever by a mistake.
Speaker 1 (16:14):
But some on they're actually doing it first.
Speaker 2 (16:17):
Yeah, so in care my sunscreened, then my powder, then
my foundation.
Speaker 1 (16:21):
Exactly.
Speaker 2 (16:22):
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Makeup is My Therapy.
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I'm in love, I'm obsessed and I don't even feel
guilty of body. Hello and welcome to Your Beauty, the
daily podcast for Your Face. I'm Lee Campbell, I'm Kelly
mccaren and it's Monday. As you know on Mondays. If
you're a regular, we answer two ubi questions, Kel how
have you boss?
Speaker 1 (00:40):
Well, you can email us you beauty at MoMA mia
dot com dot are you damn us? On Insta asking
the Facebook group wherever you send it, We will probably
find it and hopefully include it in the episode. So
let's get into it.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
I couldn't help, but.
Speaker 1 (00:53):
Wonder ask me anything, you ask any questions? All right?
So Lee Hayley slid into our dms Lee and Kelly.
I keep seeing those blurry, soft focused lips all over
social media lately. Apparently we're ditching super precise slip liners
from a few years ago for something more diffused and
natural looking. I'm really intrigued, but I have no idea
(01:16):
where to start. Are there specific blurry lip liners I
should look for or can I create this effect with
products I already own? Both?
Speaker 2 (01:25):
The answer is both yes, Kelly, this is what I
know you're going to say, Jesse, is what you've got,
But you're a sucker for a new trend and a
new thing in a new.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
I know, but I also love to use and find
things at home that I've already got.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
True. I'm just opening some links to tell you the
name of products that I love for this. It's basically
a kbd J beauty trend, which is all when I
say trend, it's really big there. It's all about that
sort of blurred, diffused, kind of stained almost bitten into
a cherry cherr cherry stain, and they've just like stained
to the inside of your lips, yes, and then like
(02:01):
blurred a little bit outwards, and it's just like, oh,
I love it.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
I love and bitter cherry.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
It's kind of like not the it's the glasskinting for lips,
but you know how the kind of cave and it's
just sort of like floor glassy like diffuse, no real lines.
So the products I've tried Holocoholica, there was another product
from them I love. I can't remember what it was.
The format name is the Mellow Blurring lip pencil. There's
a bunch of shades. I got mine on Yes Style
for twelve dollars. I think really good. So if you've
(02:31):
got a W Cosmetics near you or jump online, you
can try all of these. Kel's then going to tell
you how to just diy yourself at home. Cleo. I've
always wondered if I'm pronouncing that right. Cee l Io.
Another Korean brand, Hug Lip Blur Tint Like. The names
are so delicious that also just gives you that kind
of you know, I wish I won one one more
(02:53):
I want to tell you about, But then I've got
to tell you about the best thing I've ever bought
from W Cosmetics to do this with the stuff you've
got at home. This is the fue Fweee. I wish
it was fwee lip and cheek blurry pudding pots.
Speaker 1 (03:09):
I've got that at home. It's so pro so live.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
James got me onto those who's been to bed Wednesdays
with Sarah Marie. It's kind of like it's like like
a moosy Oh so delicious. Yes, but that's the pot,
so you'd have to stick your finger in it, which
is fine, but.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
Could go like you could kiss it. That's real bad
for the bacter of it.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
You could go. Also, they're so little, you'd have to
be a magic get libs in there.
Speaker 1 (03:30):
You just get the center, wouldn't you.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
Yeah, so weird. Okay, So what I bought is also
by FWII, and it is the FUII. It is the FUII.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
You sound like my three run me too.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
I mean that's what I thought, the Fui fingerlike lip brush.
Now I didn't bring it, because of course I didn't,
but we'll put it up on the screen for those
watching on YouTube because there's different versions.
Speaker 1 (03:55):
But it's like a little oh you have brought this
in before?
Speaker 2 (03:58):
Well that was I lost that one. So I've got
this new one.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
It's like a little tiny dome made of like silicon
or something. It was really bouncy. So what I've been
doing is using my regular old Charlotte to a your
Revolution lip liner. But then I use this fake finger,
a fake finger, and then you just kind of.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
Lee loves to shop so much that instead of just
using her finger, she buys a fake finger.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
Okay, firstly, if you are maintaining this lookout. You're in
the back of a taxi. You're, you know, wearing a
beautiful ball gown. I don't know why, and you're in
the bathroom and you want to redo your lip, but
then blur it out. Then you don't have color and
your finger that could transfer to your beautiful.
Speaker 1 (04:34):
Light wash my hands.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
You're in the back of a taxi. Wipes, so I
don't have wipe something on my way to my wedding. Okay, sorry,
Also it just the texture is beautiful and so also
you can put like a bit of lipstick in the
middle of your lip and then she would it out. Okay,
take over.
Speaker 1 (04:51):
No, they were all really good to just I.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
Mean it ten dollars. Everyone needs a free finger.
Speaker 1 (04:56):
Free finger. All of like everything that's marketed as blurring
and this sort of lip product, it's just a lip product.
So just whatever you like, like, go shop if you
love shopping and you want a new lip product. But
they'll just do the same thing. It's about how you
apply it for.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
A blurred like I don't think you could use the
like those products I mentioned earlier to get a really
precise punchy lip. No, you could use your punchy lip
to get a blurred exactly backwards, which is why I.
Speaker 1 (05:24):
Would if you could only buy one product, I would
rather just buy an average lip product.
Speaker 2 (05:28):
Not a free finger.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
Not a free finger, so I would just stop sharpening
my pencils, Like if you've got a lip liner that
isn't yeah, so you could just not sharpen it, and
then you're always going to just have that sort of
diffused look that you would get with a FUII finger
because it's not precise and you're sort of just like
lining it like it's a crayon, and then you can
(05:51):
just fill in your entire lip, or just what you
could use is your actual finger with just any old
matte lips product or velvet velvety, just to sort of
like blend it into your lips. Just too precise and
not too rich and don't texture product exactly, and it's
just going to give you that sort of blurred stained look.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
Yes, I love it. I'm into it. I think it's flattering.
I think it's not too high maintenance like you, Kelly. Okay,
So coming up after the break, a question from a
UBI who wants to know how on earth she's supposed
to know how.
Speaker 1 (06:29):
Thin her products are I love this question so much.
It's diet culture for products basically. Okay, I'm going to
read this question up first, and then I'm going to
tell you why I love it so much.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
I'm going to tell you why I don't. Well, I
think it's a silly theory. No the question though, I
think it's no question. I do, but I think the
theory is silly.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
Hi, I have a question for Lee and Kelly about
layering serums. This is from Lauren. I know the rule
is layering from thinnest to thickest, but sometimes I can't
tell which is thicker? Am I crazy? For example, how
would I layer the Notarium advanced multi peptide serum and
the Laroche pise B five hyaluronic serum. When I try
to figure out which is thinner, I just can't. I've
been listening to a podcast for years. Thank you for
(07:12):
all of your great content.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
Would you like me to go first? Or would you
like to go first? No?
Speaker 1 (07:16):
You tell me so you don't like the theory about
thinness to figure it?
Speaker 2 (07:19):
I stink there's just such a huge caveat because someone
could go and get seven serums and then try and
work it out. She doesn't really need both of these.
Speaker 1 (07:31):
If you're going to layer that, it might be skin flooding.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
I understand that. But if you're going to layer the
neturium advance multipeptide serum and then the Lrooshia, say B
five holonic, I would do neturium advance multipeptide. Then I
would do the holonic generally, because you know the jury's out,
but hylonic layer over something moist helps suck in them.
Speaker 1 (07:51):
Suck in that peronic.
Speaker 2 (07:53):
However, it won't be a massive disaster if you do
it the other way around. But this doesn't always apply
because it depends on what's in the ingredients of these products.
Because you do not want to be layering a vitamin
A and a vitamin C, or maybe you do, but
it depends on when and also your in resilience. There's
some ingredients that really don't play well together. So even
(08:15):
if you've got a thin and then a thicker and
you work it out, they should probably not be layered
in the same day, well morning or night. So I
think it's less about the consistency and more about the
routine as a whole, and what boxes are you ticking
Antioxidants or vitamin A or chemical exfoliance.
Speaker 1 (08:33):
But let's just say that she knows not to use
like a retino with a vitamin C. Yeah, but because
she's been listening, but which you can, but then there's caveats. Yeah,
so well I wouldn't use both of those, would you. Yeah?
If I was like my skin it is winter in
Australia and sinding it so cold, My skin is so dry,
so like my steps, okay, when I'm doing my skin
(08:53):
care properly a hectic it.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
Also, I think depends on, like you say, you're looking
at your individual products. So I've got some products that
say they're in essence. One feels like water and another
one almost feels like a moisturizer.
Speaker 1 (09:04):
Yeah, so use common sense then. But if there's two
products that you really asked struggling to tell apart, like
what is the thinnest, I just wouldn't overthink it too much.
Speaker 2 (09:14):
True, like they're both lovely products. You can do it
more probably better practice as a peptide on first before
purely hydrate, and it's not going to make that much
of a difference, So just don't overthink it.
Speaker 1 (09:23):
It's when something's like obviously thicker that then that's what
you just use a common sense and say, okay.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
Well yes, and I guess the oil content because oil
is more of a barrier. So yeah, remember you're my
little analogy with the water, and it didn't quite worked
at home when I was practicing alas. Also, I just think,
listen to your skin, like Kelly was saying, she's really dry.
I've got some products that are questable which way you
could lay them in that there's no right or wrong,
so you're not doing it wrong. You can do whichever
(09:50):
you want.
Speaker 1 (09:50):
But sometimes so it's skincare guys, Like at the end
of the day, if you want to put it on
a moistus first go for gold. You just might be
wasting your money in terms of something not penetrating into
your and always sunscreen very very last be for makeup,
but I kind of work. I'll try both and see
which finish are like better. Particular form wearing makeup on
top because one might be a bit tacky, so then
the thing up on top, we'll kind of take that
(10:12):
tackiness the way, maybe a white tackiness because it can
kind of act like a prim glimmer. Yeah, so just
have a play, but just definitely line up your whatever
morning or night as a routine, and check out the ingredients.
You don't want lots of actives, too many exolence, But
if it's.
Speaker 2 (10:26):
Just hydration peptides, go for gold flood that skin cysts.
There are a couple of things you do need to
be careful of, and of course there's caveats with that
because it depends on the percentage in the ingredients.
Speaker 1 (10:37):
Because sometimes you know it'll be don't use this in this,
and then a brand will be like sake, we've formulated
it with both, which and it actually is fine.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
Everyone said you can't combine a nice cinemame with vitamin C.
Then brands came out with them combined.
Speaker 1 (10:50):
You can't use retinol in the morning. Then Elizabeth Arden
were like, yes, here's the HPR crime.
Speaker 2 (10:54):
Yes, and it depends on you know, the stability the percentage.
But I think it's like, think of it like you're
cooking a massive cake morning or night whatever. You don't
want to have egg in that one, then a little
bit of egg in that one, and then some egg
in that. You need to look at your routine as
a whole, regardless of consistency, because you don't want to have,
(11:14):
you know, vitamin C in every step or exfoliance in
every step. So it's less about consistency, be product and
what ingredients are in there in a hole what they're
asking your skin to do.
Speaker 1 (11:25):
Yes, exactly, good one. Okay, Now after the break, I'm
quite upset about what Lee is going to suggest putting
under foundation my host tax Hunters for you, Kelly, I know,
but I'm your audience at the moment.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
What a pack?
Speaker 1 (11:47):
You makeup packs?
Speaker 2 (11:49):
All right? Will you go first? Muty pants? What's your fabulous?
Factually finance really not that exciting. So if you like
to tan in the winter or excuse me, we don't
ten any time? Fake Okay when I say ten, I
obviously mean a fake ten. But say, like, I personally
would never wear a.
Speaker 1 (12:10):
Short skirt without stockings or some sort of fake tan
on my legs because I've got like there's just a
lot of discoloration of veins and it just makes you
feel good. It's just not pretty down there.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
And so the t for anyone else, it's for you, No, no, no,
it's literally just for me.
Speaker 1 (12:25):
The tan just kind of like evens out my skin tone, right,
like whether that be your arms or whatever part of
your body that you prefer to have a little bit
of a glow, even in the middle of winter. I
didn't even my arms, But who can be bothered fake
tanning in winter? I don't even like it's so cold.
Speaker 2 (12:44):
The other day I wore a long skirt, but I knew,
like when I walked to you might be have a
seat ankle, so I just gradual tan to that exactly.
Speaker 1 (12:51):
Tip exactly. Oh yeah, so it's not really a tip.
It's just to remind it you do not have to
tan your entire body. Think about your outfit. All you
need to do is not even ten just a little
bit bit of instant. You don't even have to actually
put a ten on. If you've got a shade of
foundation that's a little bit darker from summer, a pump
that in with some Sally hands and or just anything
(13:13):
you've got home, and then a little bit of moisturizer. Yeah,
shmear it on the body part that's exposed, even if
it is just one ankle. Yeah, you know, I said,
things have a split sea of one legs.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
God my life is that?
Speaker 1 (13:22):
Or like if you're wearing long boots, so I might
then just do like that much of my thigh me too,
so oh, I'll never do it. And then it was
just straight off. When you have a shower, you sometimes
need to give it a bit, like use a washer
or something.
Speaker 2 (13:34):
Depends on what you're using. And for me fight because
I like a lot of creams and white so and
I'll do it. I mean I haven't done today. Look
at that sun damage. But I'll often just do this
area with a bit of coverage, and then I just
use a setting like a translucent powder to set it
before I put my cream or white top on. Exactly
all right, go on, what do you want me to
do with powder? Kelly doesn't like my host ac Let
me explain something.
Speaker 1 (13:54):
I have seen it on TikTok before, and some people
that oily swear by it.
Speaker 2 (13:58):
Okay, I discovered it by accient. It's got nothing to
do with TikTok. The other day I put on a
foundation and then I put on setting powder like translucent whatever.
I can't Oh, I was trying a new sunscreen that
was way too jewy for me. So even though my
foundation is normally wonderful, my setting, like everything normally would
work in that equation, but the sunscreen was new and
(14:20):
made everything too dewey. Went about my day for a
few hours and it had to go touch up, and
I'd had to like I was doing some filming, and
I'd had to like occasionally translucent throughout the day just
because it was like shine city, I could have like
pried chips on my face. So then anyway, I was like,
oh God, I've got to go somewhere do something. What
am I going to do all this face? And then
I put a bit more foundation in the areas that
(14:42):
needed it. But because I'd had a couple of layers
of setting powder, it then turned like it just turned
into this filtered, fabulous tes So is that the theory
because I did I haven't seen this.
Speaker 1 (14:51):
Yeah, some makeup artists do it.
Speaker 2 (14:53):
So would put a setting power like a translucent powder,
then foundation yea, and it makes a dewey foundation, velvety.
Speaker 1 (15:00):
Yes, and it just makes your skin look really blurred,
lawless and almost like filter it.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
I thought I invented this by accident, but it is only.
Speaker 1 (15:09):
For people like if I did that, my face would
simply just crossed and stuff flaking off hair.
Speaker 2 (15:17):
You probably never have this problem, but combo girls will
find because you know you're combining serums with moisturizes, with
sunscreens and then your coverage or whatever. That oftentimes one
step too far and you go from dewey and glowey
to greasy. So this is a great way to go back,
but then without having to be really matt and powdery. Yes,
it was so good my face. I went, oh, I
(15:38):
was not feeling great after a night out anyway, and
went to kids party and literally three people said, oh
my god, what are you using on your skin? And
I was like, I accidentally use the wrong thing, and
I U use and they also, your skin looks phenomenal. Yep,
so that's my trick.
Speaker 1 (15:52):
Yeah, I was dissing it, but it's really good for
the oily.
Speaker 2 (15:56):
If you've just gone to dewey, do it.
Speaker 1 (15:59):
I think it goes to show. It's such a good
example of actually no rules. You can literally do whatever
you want makeup.
Speaker 2 (16:08):
I would never be bothered to put on my make
then do powder, then do more makeup. But it kind
of brought my face back better than ever by a mistake.
Speaker 1 (16:14):
But some on they're actually doing it first.
Speaker 2 (16:17):
Yeah, so in care my sunscreened, then my powder, then
my foundation.
Speaker 1 (16:21):
Exactly.
Speaker 2 (16:22):
I shall try that and report back. Please do thank
you for listening to You Beauty. We love having you here.
We hope that you enjoyed today's madness. Now our Instagram
account is at New Bauty podcast. You can send us
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Speaker 1 (16:37):
We are on TikTok at you Beauty pot and every
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that you're not quite cretic at times. This episode of
You Beauty is produced by Molly Harwood and Sophie Campbell,
(16:59):
with audio production by Tina Mahalorp.
Speaker 2 (17:01):
And these beautiful MoMA Mater studios are styled with furniture
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