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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Yeah, straight from Pakistan to La to Boston.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
My Broski's on, Bro, Like these shows that I'm watching
is insane.
Speaker 1 (00:06):
Sean Paul, what's up?
Speaker 3 (00:07):
Man?
Speaker 1 (00:08):
How you doing? How you been? Man?
Speaker 3 (00:10):
Very good? Bro? I'm giving tongs you know.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
I mean, Yo, you are NonStop. You've been NonStop ever
since I've known you. And Yo, you just wrapped another song.
Speaker 3 (00:18):
Man.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
We just world premiered that we're gonna play it again for
you right now, Ginger, where does your motivation come from?
Speaker 1 (00:22):
Some for some of these songs?
Speaker 4 (00:24):
Remember when you we did his Halloween parties back in
the day, me and you.
Speaker 3 (00:27):
Yep, that's where it come from.
Speaker 4 (00:30):
Man, spicy ladies, Yo, it's so catchy man, some more
Halloween parties.
Speaker 1 (00:37):
Bro, come on, let's do it. Wrap their around your thing?
Speaker 4 (00:41):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (00:41):
Spicy like, Bro, it's so catchy.
Speaker 4 (00:46):
Melody is a hook, you know. I don't leave the
melody out, especially when you give me a sweet reading.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
So you you're so good at bouncing back within the
pop and the culture and the dance hall and the
dance records.
Speaker 1 (00:59):
And everything like that. Like, how are you that good?
Speaker 3 (01:02):
Like?
Speaker 1 (01:02):
I know I personally know you, but you how are
you that good?
Speaker 3 (01:05):
Stepping stones, you know, Yeah, for what on the stepingstones? Bro?
Speaker 4 (01:09):
You know when you're crossing the river, Yep, you have
to be versatile. Step on the right steppingstones. Are you
slip and you're dropping the river?
Speaker 3 (01:16):
Right?
Speaker 1 (01:16):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (01:17):
Any reading you showed me, I'm gonna be versus as
do it. And I think you know that's almost that's
our artists think. That's where a darna comes from. You know,
you turn the record on the on the on the
opposite side and it has a version plane.
Speaker 3 (01:31):
You have to be able to spit what's on there.
I mean, yeah, I'm a good student of our culture.
That's what it is.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
And you keep teaching too, man, you keep jumping on
some of these newer guys and just making these records
even to become.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
Another massive record.
Speaker 3 (01:45):
Man.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
I praise you all the time, Sean, And you know
that how big of a fan I am of yours
and how.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
Cool you are.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
You took me on tour with you a couple of times,
but I didn't get an email for these one hundred
and fifty thousand tour people like Yo, these shows are insane.
Speaker 3 (01:58):
Yeah, it's nuts. I'm loving it. I can't lie.
Speaker 4 (02:02):
It's a great feel into it, and especially I was
breaking this new song there too. I was telling them,
sorry dropped fourth of July, check it out, and everybody
like after the show, they' singing it to me. They
know it, so I know it's a sweet melody. Yeah,
But it's been cool to be able to do that.
Speaker 3 (02:18):
To these with these crowds and get them new music
and vibes.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
You know, and you you've got so many hits that
it must be hard to like navigate some of these
new records in there because you got I mean, I
last I think two years ago we talked to I mean,
we talk all the time, but when we did this interview,
I think I did a two hour set of hits
of Sean Palin. That was like two years ago. So
what are we adding now? Four or five hours of straight.
Speaker 3 (02:41):
Hit something like that?
Speaker 4 (02:43):
I mean, yo, my statue is about an hour and
a half. In some places an hour yep, some places
seventy five minutes. But the most I do right now
is an hour and a half. And we still have
problems as me, the band, the DJ kind of figuring
out what we're putting away and how to bring the
show across.
Speaker 3 (03:02):
You know, sometimes we got new songs.
Speaker 4 (03:04):
Like just the other day I went to Finland and
big up to it to Ina. You know, earlier this
year I released a song with Ina and it's the
first time we were on a show together.
Speaker 3 (03:14):
So we did it together and we.
Speaker 4 (03:16):
Had to kind of take something out of the set
to be able to do this song with Ina. And
so you know, it's a constant and there's a constant backlighter.
But it's a good problem to have, man, And it
happens because I got amazing fans and because people like you,
you'd be playing my songs on the radio and getting
them popular.
Speaker 3 (03:34):
Bro, So I appreciate you.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
Man always, always, man Sean, you know that you know
the main story that you got to repeat.
Speaker 1 (03:43):
We do this every time. My career almost ended because.
Speaker 4 (03:47):
Because you were playing me, you were standing up for
dance all and I salute you for that, sir.
Speaker 1 (03:55):
No doubt.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
Man always man Sean, Paul's out right now, gingers out
right now. When you during the pandemic, I know you
went through a little bit of a funk. I think
everybody went through a little bit of a funk. And
you know, I've known you my whole career, and I
know the pressure you put on yourself, on your back
for your team and for your country and for your people.
And you know that if you're not working, there's a
(04:16):
lot of people not working. And I remember that little
funk you went through, Like now I just see you
on stage and how good you feel. But there's a
lot of weight on your shoulder constantly. How do you
deal with that because you put that on yourself a
lot of the times.
Speaker 4 (04:30):
I think, yeah, yeah, but music feels good, man. So once,
just like mine said, I mean, I've been tired, I've
been with all the sleephoid food for a legal while,
and then we have to go on this stage and
get energy, and I'm like, oh man, my knees is hurting, my.
Speaker 3 (04:46):
Voice don't feel good.
Speaker 4 (04:47):
And then I get out there and I see smiles
and the sweat start pouring, and it feels good.
Speaker 3 (04:52):
Bro.
Speaker 4 (04:54):
So when it hits, you don't got no pain. And
that's that's how I mainly manage that. But mostly it's
not the pressure thing, you know. It's like mostly it's
like it's a sense of responsibility. And I've said it
to you before. It's like, you know, this music has
given me so much greatness in my life, even if
(05:14):
I didn't become who I am today before all of this.
Speaker 3 (05:18):
It gave me so.
Speaker 4 (05:19):
Much pleasure to just be a final and listen and
and dance to and recard songs on these kind of things.
And you know, so so so for me, the culture
itself saved me, man, and it helps me to carry on.
Speaker 2 (05:37):
You know, I love it and you can and you
can totally tell when you're on stage, and Shohn, every
time we've rocked and every time I see you, is
that joy is pouring out of you. And I love
that and I love that smile and I love that
energy you bring. And there's no faking about it.
Speaker 1 (05:50):
I know. You get on that stage and it's.
Speaker 3 (05:52):
Like, yes, you're good, man good, and you can feel it.
Speaker 1 (05:57):
You honestly can feel it.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
I'm not even just basking you man like, so keep
that up, man, Well we got this your single single
out right now, Ginger. But within the culture, you're always
dropping records.
Speaker 1 (06:07):
So this how do you know when it's go time?
Speaker 4 (06:10):
Mostly just the rhythm of the song, you know itself.
There's people that give me rhythms all the time. I
get rhythms every day, yep, And sometimes that does lead
to me feeling fatigued, like like man, I can't here
no more. And there's been some rhythms I missed, like
back in the day, I didn't get to hit up
some rhythms from a pretty say Jamaica call not nice.
(06:33):
And so because as on tour and my ears were
just number and I mean I need to come on
my rest.
Speaker 3 (06:39):
And so earlier this year I put out or sorry
me was last year. Yeah, last year.
Speaker 4 (06:44):
I put out some stuff with him and with Russia
and some old rhythms that they brought back, which was
just dope. And so the rhythms speak to you, you
know what I mean. They give you, They give you
the as an artist, they give you the how you
you feel your swag should be or your flow should
be under ridding. So it's just it's just like it's
(07:08):
like Thanksgiving thing. I'm not saying I have no formula
at all. I'm just saying that I feel good when
I hear certain vibes and I'm able to put down
that feeling in the song.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
Love It got Sean Paul on right now, let's get
into the song Ginger going to introduce it for the
world real quick.
Speaker 4 (07:23):
And yoga yo, this is Sean party life on even
Scotcha and this one is called Ginger. Dedicated to all
my spicy ladies. Respect deal to you, Salu my.
Speaker 2 (07:34):
Ginger right there. Like I said, when we started this
thing so catchy I was. I was singing it after
one one listen, man, good job with that.
Speaker 3 (07:43):
Man.
Speaker 2 (07:44):
I know you've always dreamt of this, Sean, But what's
it like when you finally get in your room by yourself.
Speaker 1 (07:50):
Do you pinch yourself every night like this is what
you dreamt of? Like do you have those moments like damn,
this is I did it, I'm doing it.
Speaker 4 (07:58):
There's sometimes, and I've heard it being called the imposter syndrome,
where you're like, this is really me, bro, it still
does happen to me, Like sometimes like am I really
just dreaming that? Like all of these steps are still
you know, just coming through that every every step in
stone I'm stepping on, I'm not slipping and I'm just
doing you know. And then there's times where you're like, damn,
(08:22):
this is challenging, this is you know, this is this
is crazy, Like you know, making decisions of what song
to put out, or how much artists work with or
whether I could do logistics of flying into the to
the to the country, to shoot a video that day,
to do a show that night, to do after party
after that.
Speaker 3 (08:42):
Am I gonna have enough energy for all that? Right?
You know? Sometimes it is trying and it is challenging, but.
Speaker 4 (08:51):
You know, the music gets you up, as I said,
and I'm appreciative of it all, and I wouldn't I wouldn't.
Speaker 3 (08:58):
Change it for the world in terms of what I do.
Speaker 4 (09:01):
Even if I wasn't as popular as successful as now,
I wouldn't change doing music for the world.
Speaker 3 (09:07):
Bro. It's so for me. It's been the biggest and
the best form of self expression. Man.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
Love it man.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
Sean Paul's on right now. Sean, you look great. You
feel great when you're when you're on tour. Not saying
that there's gonna be any end goal anytime soon, but
in the back of your head, I know you got
a family. I know you do a lot of work.
Is there somewhere in your mind that you go when
I get to this place, I'm gonna stop. Is there
is there?
Speaker 3 (09:31):
Do you have that conversation right now? My daughter just
came down here. Dad, you said it was going to
swim bro they're waiting on MESM.
Speaker 4 (09:42):
But it's like, you know, it's summer for them now,
so yeah, it gets hectic and I'm looking at you
know I'm doing working smarter, but I don't instead of
instead of as hard in terms of the amount of touring.
Speaker 3 (10:01):
You know, I really love to touch these different areas.
Speaker 4 (10:03):
Like as I'm speaking to you, I'm remembering the October
party and I'm like, damn, I want to go.
Speaker 3 (10:08):
Back to something like that, you know what I mean.
And I do have a Halloween song.
Speaker 4 (10:13):
Maybe we drop it right before Halloween this year, give
you exclusive, but what it's like, Yeah, then there's the
times where you know, you realize you're losing time with
the little ones, and so working smarter instead of as
hard and time wise is going to be. It's definitely
(10:34):
something I've been thinking about a lot more. But I mean,
even if I had to stop for you know, knee
injury or whatever, I still be in the studios.
Speaker 3 (10:43):
Man. You take your breaks, but also you you get back.
Speaker 4 (10:48):
In it, man, because if I if I wasn't doing it,
I think I would lose a lot of a lot
of energy, you know, life energy. Yeah, but what I'm
loving it so much and it's it's been such a
good thing. So really it's about balance, like me balancing
the time with the family, with the kids and in the.
Speaker 3 (11:07):
Studio and being on tour.
Speaker 4 (11:08):
So more more smart work in those time aspects, right,
rather than just going so hard all the time. Because
there's time twenty four hours and I'm like, yo, I
ain't slept since yesterday at seven o'clock in the am
and it's now nine o'clock in the a why I
need to sleep. But I can't do that nor more.
(11:29):
I definitely can't do that no more. So I have
to do rapper sleep and stuff. And so so there's
it's challenging in terms of its aways as hardcore pushing
as I was to put the music out, but we're
working smarter.
Speaker 3 (11:43):
As I said, you know, I got I got some
big songs coming.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
So it's never worked when you love what you do, right, Yes, bro,
I've done the same thing. Man, Like gigs, I don't
take all of it. I used to take every gig,
every gig, and I'm like, no, I'm going to take
the ones that make sense, and I'm going to miss
a couple that I was like, damn, I wish i'd
taken it, but that family time is super important. Man.
There it is, man, Sean Paul, you got this tour
(12:06):
with the Whist too. You're out here in Boston. You're
coming to your second home.
Speaker 1 (12:09):
Why haven't you bought a house here yet?
Speaker 3 (12:11):
Bro?
Speaker 4 (12:11):
So I can you know because you haven't shown me
the right one on the lake? You know what I mean?
I need one of them rowing boats and thing like
I seen him by, you know what I mean?
Speaker 3 (12:22):
Go over to your house, yo, what up? All right? Done?
Speaker 1 (12:25):
Dale, I'm gonna look for one for you. So talk
about the store real quick. Is it gonna be very cloudy?
Speaker 2 (12:29):
Because I know you you used to travel with popcorn
and if you know about the Sean Paul Popcorn stories
and stuff like that. So is it like, how is
this tour going to be? Is everyone's just gonna be
high as help?
Speaker 3 (12:40):
I think?
Speaker 4 (12:41):
So it's got good vibes only, And you know, it's
always a pleasure to be around the g's that have
the same love for for the trees, you.
Speaker 3 (12:52):
Know what I mean.
Speaker 4 (12:54):
And I've toured with Whiz already and he was on
the same label at one point.
Speaker 3 (12:59):
It's always been cool to me. Man. We used to
tour friends backing.
Speaker 4 (13:04):
I would say twenty thirteen, probably even before that, it
was a good vibe man, So looking forward to to
doing it again, especially in the States here.
Speaker 3 (13:13):
Big up the baby. You know, it's good music that
all of us make.
Speaker 4 (13:17):
And so we name the name the tour Good Vibes
only because bad vibes thing.
Speaker 3 (13:23):
We just want the people come to enjoy themselves.
Speaker 4 (13:25):
There's a lot of bad things that happen on a
day to day basis, and we're trying to provide a clean.
Speaker 3 (13:32):
Oasis for you to feel, you know, just like let's
just party.
Speaker 2 (13:38):
Well between you and whiz Man, that's going to be
like the hits that you guys all have together, you know, separately,
but like as.
Speaker 1 (13:44):
Many hits as he has and as many hits as
you have.
Speaker 3 (13:49):
Party.
Speaker 2 (13:49):
I want to say with you guys one time when
you're making your set list, because I want to see
the process of like how many like arguments you guys have,
like no, we gotta get this one, we gotta get
this one.
Speaker 3 (13:58):
An ongoing thing. I'm going ongoing.
Speaker 4 (14:02):
We argue all the time, sometimes changed sometimes let's change
five minutes before the show, like yo, we got okay
cool now I see what you're talking.
Speaker 3 (14:09):
We have to put this in there. The crowd is
day one, all right, right, so.
Speaker 2 (14:12):
Now you're stretching out Kapa Shan and everybody, and every
five minutes before.
Speaker 4 (14:15):
Say you're about to get on the plane. Yo, you
need to make the edit for this because we be
doing it as we learn.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
I love it, man, I've actually seen it firsthand. Remember
we did the Canadian tour. You took me on that
Canadian tour with Sam and I saw it firsthand and
that was it was just unbelievable and so fun to
watch and be part of that. So thank you for that.
Thank you for all the experiences you've given me all
my life.
Speaker 3 (14:39):
Man. Yeah, I appreciate you. Good time for the support. Bro.
Always man, you're a.
Speaker 4 (14:45):
Champion for dance, our music, and anyone who says anything
else different, you know they got something to learn from you.
Speaker 3 (14:51):
Bro.
Speaker 1 (14:51):
Respect I appreciate you.
Speaker 2 (14:53):
Well, go enjoy the nieces and nephews. Man, tell me
we're talking to unk pup up there. But I appreciate you.
Take in the time, Bro, I know you've got a
lot going on.
Speaker 3 (15:01):
So Lottle Bitter