August 13, 2025 • 11 mins
Wiz gets candid about his incredible journey, from the whirlwind of being signed and then dropped, to finding his own creative voice. The two dive deep into Wiz's ability to seamlessly blend genres, from R&B and pop to electronic and amapiano. Plus, you'll hear the moment Pup Dawg sparks a brand-new idea for Wiz—a project that could take his career in an exciting, unexpected direction. Don't miss this one!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Yeah, straight from Pakistan to La to Boston. A huge
record out right now showed me. Love's been doing some
crazy numbers. Where's the MC he's on right now?
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Where's what up? My guy?
Speaker 3 (00:09):
What's good? Man? Thank you for having me.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
No doubt? Man, where are you at? What part of
the world are you in?
Speaker 3 (00:13):
Man, I'm in New York right now.
Speaker 1 (00:14):
Oh you're in New York. You're in the States. Okay,
how long you in town? How much do you go
back and forth?
Speaker 4 (00:20):
I was just I was just in LA for a week,
did some things in New York.
Speaker 3 (00:24):
Yes, I'm here till the fifth or so.
Speaker 4 (00:27):
Okay, mostly just just chilling and you know, eating pastronomi
sandwiches and bagels.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
You know, that's no way you're working.
Speaker 1 (00:34):
I'm sure they got you running around everywhere, right because
you exploded.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
Man.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
I know you've been doing your thing for a while,
but this last run, it's got to be the biggest
run for you right now.
Speaker 4 (00:44):
Absolutely, this is what I've been prepping for for the
past eleven years, you know, right, man.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
Talk about that, talk about your growth right now.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
You're originally in Berlin, right, You've moved around a little bit,
but you're in Berlin.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
You've been doing your thing, you said, eleven years.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
Now when did you realize and you and your family realize, like, Yo,
this is actually connecting and I'm going to do this
because you know, everybody has a kid, wants to be
a wants to be an artist, wants.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
To be in the radio. But then you're like, oh, shmack, okay,
I'm really going to do this. When was that moment
for you?
Speaker 3 (01:11):
Well, I think it was really gradual.
Speaker 4 (01:13):
I always believed in like the ten years, ten thousand
hours you have to put in.
Speaker 3 (01:18):
And I had my first moment in twenty twenty.
Speaker 4 (01:20):
When I stayed out, when I lived out in Toronto.
The song that came out then was definitely not as
big as this record now, But around that time it
became like my full time.
Speaker 3 (01:33):
Profession, which was which was a goal at the time.
Speaker 4 (01:35):
But you know how things are, you know, I got
signed twenty twenty, it got dropped two years later. So
that's I feel like the almost a typical blueprint of artists,
you know, you guess, which was like basically the past
four or five years for me, just like independently rocking
and releasing it, going on tour and now with this run.
It changed the whole game. It feels like, you know,
(01:56):
it's it's something completely new. You know, it's a whole
different les. I'm playing now and it's I'm super great.
The music is connecting like.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
That, It's definitely connecting.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
But again, like you said, because of all the groundwork
you put in, now you know your discovery. Everyone's going
back and I'm sure you were doing great numbers before,
But do you see all those older records going back
to twenty twenty?
Speaker 2 (02:15):
Was it All my Friends of Stone? Is that the
song you're talking about?
Speaker 4 (02:17):
It was?
Speaker 3 (02:17):
It was for a minute, actually, oh for a minute, Okay, Yeah.
Speaker 4 (02:20):
All my Friends was a record right after, which also
did pretty well.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
Yeah, so I want to hear about both of those.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
I want to know how when it comes to recording
a record, like All my Friends of Stone and so
am I, but you know, like what are you constantly
in work mode when you when you're out and about
and like thinking about you know, your your lifestyle and
like just moments and stuff.
Speaker 4 (02:39):
You know, It's funny I always say that, like I'm
the least like musical artists that I know from like
all the artists that I've met, so far because like
I don't wake up with melodies, you know, like how
some people in interviews say, like I woke.
Speaker 3 (02:52):
Uphead his melody.
Speaker 4 (02:52):
I had to dream about his song and I just
had to wake up and write it down.
Speaker 3 (02:55):
Like I don't.
Speaker 4 (02:56):
I don't think about music unless I'm in the studio.
So I go into the studio, I'm locked in for
six to eight hours and all write whatever comes to mind.
And it's like I just try to be like a
channel when I'm in the studio, you know, because I
still after eleven years, I don't. I don't think of
myself as the greatest writer, rapper or singer, you know.
Speaker 3 (03:12):
For me.
Speaker 4 (03:13):
For me, it's it's a certain like almost spirituality where
you got to allow yourself to let these melodies come
through and channel that. And I feel like I'm very
aware that I have a large container of like just
like emotions. Like so when I'm in the studio, I'm
not necessarily writing out of the mood I'm in. Can
connect to different sort of emotions I have felt, and
I just like I feel a lot, but I don't
(03:34):
necessarily express it in real time. And so like when
I'm in the studio, this you can imagine just like
a big folder of like emotions, I can kind of
like choose from and then and then draw from to
do records.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
Yeah, well, clearly that's good.
Speaker 1 (03:46):
Okay, then that makes sense why your music is so
all over the place in a very respectful way, Like
you know, it's you got your your genre bending. Like
I've heard about genre bending from artists, but going through
your stuff, man, for a minute, if you like it's
a pop record, Death of Me, it sounds like you're
a rock star.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
On that one, what I mean. So you're definitely genre bending.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
Let's talk about the pros and cons of being such
a big genre bender when it comes to that.
Speaker 4 (04:13):
Yeah, the thing is, I always it's funny because like
for the longest time, I was thinking about it as
a con because it's like the pro of it is
you can reach different fan bases and people with different
tape con can can sometimes you're you're not like, let's
say you do one genre right from the first year
till the tenth years. Like your fans that meet you
along the road know exactly what world you live in,
(04:34):
so they can recommend your music to friends and then
they can wait on new records and if your genre
bending and you try different things, you keep on disappointing your.
Speaker 3 (04:42):
Fan base or at least every couple of years, you know.
Speaker 4 (04:45):
But to me, that's almost the fun, the fun of it,
not not disappointing the fan base, but finding something new
I'm passionate about, you know, because because like for instance,
with indie music, like last summer I was doing indie
records or pop records in the studio, I felt like
was imitating like my past self, and I didn't feel inspired,
you know. And so I feel like, as an artist,
you just got to be honest about how you like
(05:08):
what you actually into, because I feel like people can
tell if you're authentically into the stuff that you're doing,
or you're doing it because you're supposed to, or your
label says or your management sets so, or pop trends
say so, you know.
Speaker 3 (05:18):
And so I feel like it was just very serendipitous
that what.
Speaker 4 (05:21):
I was passionate about happened to also be something that
the world was open to receive, you know, will show
me love and take my mind, you know.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
Well, that's a great thing about where we are with
the world and music. You can cater to everybody like
you know, a lot of people that are coming in
for show me love. You got a couple of records
in that Afro B and that afro you know, I'm
a piano.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
Vibes and stuff like that.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
And if someone recommends you and then all of a
sudden you get that death of me, You're like, wait,
what just happened?
Speaker 2 (05:47):
Am I still on the same algorithm? What's going on?
Speaker 3 (05:49):
Absolutely?
Speaker 4 (05:50):
But you know, but you know, the cool thing is like,
and I only figured out on tour when I was
talking to people who came to my shows, they were
like a lot of them said, was they they loved
my music and me for the for the fact that
I do so many different genres, but I always put.
Speaker 3 (06:05):
Myself in it.
Speaker 4 (06:06):
So I feel like, like a real wisdom cea fan,
you can you can still show them different genres, but
they can still hear my voice and the elements of
like because for instance, I'll always write about emotions and like,
I'm very vulnerable in my record, so like everything from
being happy to being sad to feeling in love and
all that type of stuff.
Speaker 3 (06:22):
You hear it in every genre.
Speaker 4 (06:24):
So that's to me, like the through line of like
what I said earlier with the emotional container, you know.
To me, it's always important to put an emotion on
the paper, and so I don't even think in genres.
For me, it's whatever kind of evokes in emotion in
the studio. Man, And at some point it won't be
an APPA record. Right now, these things are inspiring to
me because it's a whole new world that I haven't explored,
you know too much, and right, but I'm curious about
(06:46):
you know, like, and there will be a point in
the next couple of years Where'll be like, I'll switch
it up because I need something for me, you know,
because at the end of the day, art makes me
feel alive and gives me life.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
I like that. Man, what's the MCS on right now?
I don't know. I don't think this has ever been done.
Speaker 1 (06:59):
And if you do this, I need some writing credit
or like some kind of like a shoutout credit.
Speaker 2 (07:04):
But what about it?
Speaker 1 (07:05):
Since you are so you know, you're you're so gifted
in so many different ways, how about doing each song
the same song the lyrics, but doing versions like a
rock version, like what's the MC?
Speaker 2 (07:17):
Who's the MC rock playlist? Right?
Speaker 1 (07:19):
So it's the same song, but it's in that rock
Vibe afro Vibe.
Speaker 3 (07:24):
That that that's the crazy idea.
Speaker 4 (07:26):
Man.
Speaker 3 (07:26):
If I steal that, I'll definitely definitely give you credit.
You know, I was, I was.
Speaker 4 (07:31):
I was chatting stuff with my bandmates, and I was like,
in a couple of years time, and you know, like
I was thinking of doing like different genre tours. So
let's say's the MC on an R and B will
be out for a month around the world playing only
like my R and B record, like, you know, like.
Speaker 3 (07:48):
In ten to fifteen years time. Maybe I have enough
records to make that happen.
Speaker 4 (07:52):
But I think that would be interesting to see what
kind of crowds I would draw.
Speaker 1 (07:54):
You know, well, they do that with the albums, right
when you when you're going on an album tour, you're
gonna do your album that you just dropped, and people
are like, oh, can you do your album for five
years ago?
Speaker 2 (08:04):
No, I'm not doing that album right now.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
I guess you could do that, but I think that
one of the next songs you should try it where
it's all different versions, same lyrics, but all different.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
That'd be crazy.
Speaker 3 (08:15):
That's a while I did. Man.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
I never heard that before, never heard right now this
is coming because of your doing right.
Speaker 3 (08:20):
Now, J talk man.
Speaker 1 (08:21):
Yeah with the innovation, Yeah we got wisdom MC on
right now. Congratulations on Show Me Love man, Like as
soon as you hear it, uh, you know that's like
I feel like that's a contender for a Song of
the Summer, which is crazy to say that we still
haven't really locked in that song of the Summer yet.
And I know you're an artist and you're probably like, no,
this mine is it, But it's up there.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
In the running, Bros.
Speaker 4 (08:45):
It's crazy, you know, like, especially with how people are
treating the song. I feel like when I go through
the creations on TikTok and the memories people associate with
the song, it is crazy that this song will be
and let's say, in the year's time, years time, people
will listen to the song and all the memories from
twenty twenty five summer and onwards will come up. And
I think that's that's such a beautiful thing because like
(09:08):
in the summer, there's so many happy memories happening, family, friends, travel,
all that type of stuff. To be a part of
that sonic world for someone's happy memories, it's an incredible feeling,
you know.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
No, congratulations on that, and then how is the Tyler
connect on that? Has that happened organically? Did you guys
reach out to each other you know each other?
Speaker 3 (09:25):
I did it.
Speaker 4 (09:25):
I didn't know her personally before it was to be honest,
it was just one day. I was on a writing
camp actually in Spain, and my manager hit me it's like, Yo,
Tyler wants to FaceTime in twenty minutes.
Speaker 3 (09:34):
She's thinking of hopping on the song. And I was like, Hey, I'm.
Speaker 4 (09:36):
Free right now, you know, so so yeah, on the FaceTime,
she showed me what she was working on in the verse,
and you know, she's super cool. I definitely didn't expect
that I was going to get invited to Coachella with
the song. To me, it was already like I was
on such a high when I you know, got the
verse sent through and everything was confirmed, and then I
(09:56):
was like, Yo, she wants you at Coachella.
Speaker 3 (09:58):
I was like, do it, you know, And it's incredible,
you know, And at the same time, I think.
Speaker 4 (10:05):
It's beautiful that it's like such a full circle moment
for South Africa. You know, me being born in Cape Town,
you know, she being from joe Bert right and all
of that.
Speaker 3 (10:12):
I love when things are full circle and they just
make sense.
Speaker 4 (10:15):
So on that level, I'm also not surprised that she
chose to hop on it because of such a big
moment for the world and also very representative of South Africa.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
Fine, I love it man.
Speaker 1 (10:24):
We got what's the MC on right now? While we're
talking about show Me Love? Go ahead and introduce it
for everybody.
Speaker 4 (10:29):
Up this wisdomc and you're listening to show Me Love
on Top thirty Countdown with DJ pop Dog.
Speaker 1 (10:33):
Yes, what's the MC? That song's been on the countdown?
Congratulations on everything. Still move in. There's still a lot
of room to grow. I know you're in your three
hundred million I think on one platform I saw.
Speaker 3 (10:44):
So Yeah, Spotify is over three hundred.
Speaker 1 (10:46):
It's crazy crazy, right, and then the combination of two.
I think you're you're about to hit a billion soon.
It's gonna be real quick. Are we doing a project?
Full project? What we've got coming up?
Speaker 3 (10:54):
Well, there's a there's an EP I'm finishing up right now.
Speaker 4 (10:57):
It's gonna come later this year before summer ideally, that's
that's the plan. And next year some some touring off
my own headline shows and yeah, and the rest of
this month, a couple of festivals across Europe and UK.
I just just trying to show show my music to
more people, you know.
Speaker 2 (11:14):
Ye, show me love Man. I like that. There it is.
Speaker 3 (11:18):
Man.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
What's the n C. Looking forward to having you in
the studio, right, bro?
Speaker 3 (11:21):
Absolutely, Man, looking forward to too. Man.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
We'll talk to you man.
Speaker 3 (11:24):
Thank you all right, thank you Man.
Yeah, straight from Pakistan to La to Boston. A huge
record out right now showed me. Love's been doing some
crazy numbers. Where's the MC he's on right now?
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Where's what up? My guy?
Speaker 3 (00:09):
What's good? Man? Thank you for having me.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
No doubt? Man, where are you at? What part of
the world are you in?
Speaker 3 (00:13):
Man, I'm in New York right now.
Speaker 1 (00:14):
Oh you're in New York. You're in the States. Okay,
how long you in town? How much do you go
back and forth?
Speaker 4 (00:20):
I was just I was just in LA for a week,
did some things in New York.
Speaker 3 (00:24):
Yes, I'm here till the fifth or so.
Speaker 4 (00:27):
Okay, mostly just just chilling and you know, eating pastronomi
sandwiches and bagels.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
You know, that's no way you're working.
Speaker 1 (00:34):
I'm sure they got you running around everywhere, right because
you exploded.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
Man.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
I know you've been doing your thing for a while,
but this last run, it's got to be the biggest
run for you right now.
Speaker 4 (00:44):
Absolutely, this is what I've been prepping for for the
past eleven years, you know, right, man.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
Talk about that, talk about your growth right now.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
You're originally in Berlin, right, You've moved around a little bit,
but you're in Berlin.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
You've been doing your thing, you said, eleven years.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
Now when did you realize and you and your family realize, like, Yo,
this is actually connecting and I'm going to do this
because you know, everybody has a kid, wants to be
a wants to be an artist, wants.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
To be in the radio. But then you're like, oh, shmack, okay,
I'm really going to do this. When was that moment
for you?
Speaker 3 (01:11):
Well, I think it was really gradual.
Speaker 4 (01:13):
I always believed in like the ten years, ten thousand
hours you have to put in.
Speaker 3 (01:18):
And I had my first moment in twenty twenty.
Speaker 4 (01:20):
When I stayed out, when I lived out in Toronto.
The song that came out then was definitely not as
big as this record now, But around that time it
became like my full time.
Speaker 3 (01:33):
Profession, which was which was a goal at the time.
Speaker 4 (01:35):
But you know how things are, you know, I got
signed twenty twenty, it got dropped two years later. So
that's I feel like the almost a typical blueprint of artists,
you know, you guess, which was like basically the past
four or five years for me, just like independently rocking
and releasing it, going on tour and now with this run.
It changed the whole game. It feels like, you know,
(01:56):
it's it's something completely new. You know, it's a whole
different les. I'm playing now and it's I'm super great.
The music is connecting like.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
That, It's definitely connecting.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
But again, like you said, because of all the groundwork
you put in, now you know your discovery. Everyone's going
back and I'm sure you were doing great numbers before,
But do you see all those older records going back
to twenty twenty?
Speaker 2 (02:15):
Was it All my Friends of Stone? Is that the
song you're talking about?
Speaker 4 (02:17):
It was?
Speaker 3 (02:17):
It was for a minute, actually, oh for a minute, Okay, Yeah.
Speaker 4 (02:20):
All my Friends was a record right after, which also
did pretty well.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
Yeah, so I want to hear about both of those.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
I want to know how when it comes to recording
a record, like All my Friends of Stone and so
am I, but you know, like what are you constantly
in work mode when you when you're out and about
and like thinking about you know, your your lifestyle and
like just moments and stuff.
Speaker 4 (02:39):
You know, It's funny I always say that, like I'm
the least like musical artists that I know from like
all the artists that I've met, so far because like
I don't wake up with melodies, you know, like how
some people in interviews say, like I woke.
Speaker 3 (02:52):
Uphead his melody.
Speaker 4 (02:52):
I had to dream about his song and I just
had to wake up and write it down.
Speaker 3 (02:55):
Like I don't.
Speaker 4 (02:56):
I don't think about music unless I'm in the studio.
So I go into the studio, I'm locked in for
six to eight hours and all write whatever comes to mind.
And it's like I just try to be like a
channel when I'm in the studio, you know, because I
still after eleven years, I don't. I don't think of
myself as the greatest writer, rapper or singer, you know.
Speaker 3 (03:12):
For me.
Speaker 4 (03:13):
For me, it's it's a certain like almost spirituality where
you got to allow yourself to let these melodies come
through and channel that. And I feel like I'm very
aware that I have a large container of like just
like emotions. Like so when I'm in the studio, I'm
not necessarily writing out of the mood I'm in. Can
connect to different sort of emotions I have felt, and
I just like I feel a lot, but I don't
(03:34):
necessarily express it in real time. And so like when
I'm in the studio, this you can imagine just like
a big folder of like emotions, I can kind of
like choose from and then and then draw from to
do records.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
Yeah, well, clearly that's good.
Speaker 1 (03:46):
Okay, then that makes sense why your music is so
all over the place in a very respectful way, Like
you know, it's you got your your genre bending. Like
I've heard about genre bending from artists, but going through
your stuff, man, for a minute, if you like it's
a pop record, Death of Me, it sounds like you're
a rock star.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
On that one, what I mean. So you're definitely genre bending.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
Let's talk about the pros and cons of being such
a big genre bender when it comes to that.
Speaker 4 (04:13):
Yeah, the thing is, I always it's funny because like
for the longest time, I was thinking about it as
a con because it's like the pro of it is
you can reach different fan bases and people with different
tape con can can sometimes you're you're not like, let's
say you do one genre right from the first year
till the tenth years. Like your fans that meet you
along the road know exactly what world you live in,
(04:34):
so they can recommend your music to friends and then
they can wait on new records and if your genre
bending and you try different things, you keep on disappointing your.
Speaker 3 (04:42):
Fan base or at least every couple of years, you know.
Speaker 4 (04:45):
But to me, that's almost the fun, the fun of it,
not not disappointing the fan base, but finding something new
I'm passionate about, you know, because because like for instance,
with indie music, like last summer I was doing indie
records or pop records in the studio, I felt like
was imitating like my past self, and I didn't feel inspired,
you know. And so I feel like, as an artist,
you just got to be honest about how you like
(05:08):
what you actually into, because I feel like people can
tell if you're authentically into the stuff that you're doing,
or you're doing it because you're supposed to, or your
label says or your management sets so, or pop trends
say so, you know.
Speaker 3 (05:18):
And so I feel like it was just very serendipitous
that what.
Speaker 4 (05:21):
I was passionate about happened to also be something that
the world was open to receive, you know, will show
me love and take my mind, you know.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
Well, that's a great thing about where we are with
the world and music. You can cater to everybody like
you know, a lot of people that are coming in
for show me love. You got a couple of records
in that Afro B and that afro you know, I'm
a piano.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
Vibes and stuff like that.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
And if someone recommends you and then all of a
sudden you get that death of me, You're like, wait,
what just happened?
Speaker 2 (05:47):
Am I still on the same algorithm? What's going on?
Speaker 3 (05:49):
Absolutely?
Speaker 4 (05:50):
But you know, but you know, the cool thing is like,
and I only figured out on tour when I was
talking to people who came to my shows, they were
like a lot of them said, was they they loved
my music and me for the for the fact that
I do so many different genres, but I always put.
Speaker 3 (06:05):
Myself in it.
Speaker 4 (06:06):
So I feel like, like a real wisdom cea fan,
you can you can still show them different genres, but
they can still hear my voice and the elements of
like because for instance, I'll always write about emotions and like,
I'm very vulnerable in my record, so like everything from
being happy to being sad to feeling in love and
all that type of stuff.
Speaker 3 (06:22):
You hear it in every genre.
Speaker 4 (06:24):
So that's to me, like the through line of like
what I said earlier with the emotional container, you know.
To me, it's always important to put an emotion on
the paper, and so I don't even think in genres.
For me, it's whatever kind of evokes in emotion in
the studio. Man, And at some point it won't be
an APPA record. Right now, these things are inspiring to
me because it's a whole new world that I haven't explored,
you know too much, and right, but I'm curious about
(06:46):
you know, like, and there will be a point in
the next couple of years Where'll be like, I'll switch
it up because I need something for me, you know,
because at the end of the day, art makes me
feel alive and gives me life.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
I like that. Man, what's the MCS on right now?
I don't know. I don't think this has ever been done.
Speaker 1 (06:59):
And if you do this, I need some writing credit
or like some kind of like a shoutout credit.
Speaker 2 (07:04):
But what about it?
Speaker 1 (07:05):
Since you are so you know, you're you're so gifted
in so many different ways, how about doing each song
the same song the lyrics, but doing versions like a
rock version, like what's the MC?
Speaker 2 (07:17):
Who's the MC rock playlist? Right?
Speaker 1 (07:19):
So it's the same song, but it's in that rock
Vibe afro Vibe.
Speaker 3 (07:24):
That that that's the crazy idea.
Speaker 4 (07:26):
Man.
Speaker 3 (07:26):
If I steal that, I'll definitely definitely give you credit.
You know, I was, I was.
Speaker 4 (07:31):
I was chatting stuff with my bandmates, and I was like,
in a couple of years time, and you know, like
I was thinking of doing like different genre tours. So
let's say's the MC on an R and B will
be out for a month around the world playing only
like my R and B record, like, you know, like.
Speaker 3 (07:48):
In ten to fifteen years time. Maybe I have enough
records to make that happen.
Speaker 4 (07:52):
But I think that would be interesting to see what
kind of crowds I would draw.
Speaker 1 (07:54):
You know, well, they do that with the albums, right
when you when you're going on an album tour, you're
gonna do your album that you just dropped, and people
are like, oh, can you do your album for five
years ago?
Speaker 2 (08:04):
No, I'm not doing that album right now.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
I guess you could do that, but I think that
one of the next songs you should try it where
it's all different versions, same lyrics, but all different.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
That'd be crazy.
Speaker 3 (08:15):
That's a while I did. Man.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
I never heard that before, never heard right now this
is coming because of your doing right.
Speaker 3 (08:20):
Now, J talk man.
Speaker 1 (08:21):
Yeah with the innovation, Yeah we got wisdom MC on
right now. Congratulations on Show Me Love man, Like as
soon as you hear it, uh, you know that's like
I feel like that's a contender for a Song of
the Summer, which is crazy to say that we still
haven't really locked in that song of the Summer yet.
And I know you're an artist and you're probably like, no,
this mine is it, But it's up there.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
In the running, Bros.
Speaker 4 (08:45):
It's crazy, you know, like, especially with how people are
treating the song. I feel like when I go through
the creations on TikTok and the memories people associate with
the song, it is crazy that this song will be
and let's say, in the year's time, years time, people
will listen to the song and all the memories from
twenty twenty five summer and onwards will come up. And
I think that's that's such a beautiful thing because like
(09:08):
in the summer, there's so many happy memories happening, family, friends, travel,
all that type of stuff. To be a part of
that sonic world for someone's happy memories, it's an incredible feeling,
you know.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
No, congratulations on that, and then how is the Tyler
connect on that? Has that happened organically? Did you guys
reach out to each other you know each other?
Speaker 3 (09:25):
I did it.
Speaker 4 (09:25):
I didn't know her personally before it was to be honest,
it was just one day. I was on a writing
camp actually in Spain, and my manager hit me it's like, Yo,
Tyler wants to FaceTime in twenty minutes.
Speaker 3 (09:34):
She's thinking of hopping on the song. And I was like, Hey, I'm.
Speaker 4 (09:36):
Free right now, you know, so so yeah, on the FaceTime,
she showed me what she was working on in the verse,
and you know, she's super cool. I definitely didn't expect
that I was going to get invited to Coachella with
the song. To me, it was already like I was
on such a high when I you know, got the
verse sent through and everything was confirmed, and then I
(09:56):
was like, Yo, she wants you at Coachella.
Speaker 3 (09:58):
I was like, do it, you know, And it's incredible,
you know, And at the same time, I think.
Speaker 4 (10:05):
It's beautiful that it's like such a full circle moment
for South Africa. You know, me being born in Cape Town,
you know, she being from joe Bert right and all
of that.
Speaker 3 (10:12):
I love when things are full circle and they just
make sense.
Speaker 4 (10:15):
So on that level, I'm also not surprised that she
chose to hop on it because of such a big
moment for the world and also very representative of South Africa.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
Fine, I love it man.
Speaker 1 (10:24):
We got what's the MC on right now? While we're
talking about show Me Love? Go ahead and introduce it
for everybody.
Speaker 4 (10:29):
Up this wisdomc and you're listening to show Me Love
on Top thirty Countdown with DJ pop Dog.
Speaker 1 (10:33):
Yes, what's the MC? That song's been on the countdown?
Congratulations on everything. Still move in. There's still a lot
of room to grow. I know you're in your three
hundred million I think on one platform I saw.
Speaker 3 (10:44):
So Yeah, Spotify is over three hundred.
Speaker 1 (10:46):
It's crazy crazy, right, and then the combination of two.
I think you're you're about to hit a billion soon.
It's gonna be real quick. Are we doing a project?
Full project? What we've got coming up?
Speaker 3 (10:54):
Well, there's a there's an EP I'm finishing up right now.
Speaker 4 (10:57):
It's gonna come later this year before summer ideally, that's
that's the plan. And next year some some touring off
my own headline shows and yeah, and the rest of
this month, a couple of festivals across Europe and UK.
I just just trying to show show my music to
more people, you know.
Speaker 2 (11:14):
Ye, show me love Man. I like that. There it is.
Speaker 3 (11:18):
Man.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
What's the n C. Looking forward to having you in
the studio, right, bro?
Speaker 3 (11:21):
Absolutely, Man, looking forward to too. Man.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
We'll talk to you man.
Speaker 3 (11:24):
Thank you all right, thank you Man.
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