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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Yeah, I'm doing very good, thank you, and yourself.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
I am doing very well, thank you. I'm trying to
figure out where forty years went. Can you relate to that?
Speaker 1 (00:09):
I do, I do relate to that.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
Oh my goodness. I'm looking at the artwork for Dream
into Action and I'm like, you know, I own this album.
I owned the cassette, you know. I listened to every
song on the radio on the way to school and
here we are and just like that. It's it's forty years.
But it's so cool because you know, you're celebrating that.
And there's like some limited edition stuff. I always love
this collectible stuff.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
Yeah, that's great. Yeah, it's a really nice package. Actually,
it's got orange final which looks so good. I was
shocked how good it looks. And the packaging is really cool,
you know, focusing on some of the artwork do we
you know, used originally for the album, but with a twist,
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you know. So, Yeah, I'm very excited about it. It's
great to be releasing it.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
Yeah, and obviously we have so many great songs in there.
Things can only get better. Life in one day. You have.
I've seen you several times over the years, sometimes by
yourself sometimes in like an eighties package, it seems like
you're still having a great time. Your voice is awesome,
and you just you really look like you're having fun.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
Yeah, I mean, I just love what I do, you know,
And I'm always trying to improve things and get better
or I do and make it really interesting for the
audience and play with something else songs in terms of
bringing them, giving them more game feel, and you know,
I mean, I just I just love the whole process.
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And playing live is like the best thing you can
do in the world.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
And yeah, I'll be doing it until I dropped, which
we hope is a long long time from now. Let's
be honest. That's right chatting here with Howard Jones. So
tell me about the I know you said It's It's
It's Orange. Are there some some like some bonus tracks.
What can we expect on the double vinyl?
Speaker 1 (02:04):
Yeah, well, there's like some some like early versions of
some of the songs, like things Going to Get Better
and Dream into Action. No one is to blame mother,
you know, assault and battery, things like like alternative mixes
that we did that that when when we listened to them,
we didn't like them quite as much as as as
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as other mixes, but they're still great and the fans
really love all that. And there's things like a TV
mix of No One Is to Blame when we were
doing stuff for you know, on the BBC, and and
there's a very interesting version of No One Is to
Blame which we actually recorded outside in the studio and
it's called the Lambs and Planes mix because you can
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hear the sheep bleating in the field a farm and
also planes going overhead.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
So what a great name.
Speaker 1 (02:56):
You know. Yeah, and the drum kit was set up
outside and you know, you are quite an unusual stuff.
So yes, there's really there's some cool there's some cool,
rare things on that. And there's a model of me
doing Loves to get to know you well, you know,
in my front room, you know house in high weekend.
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So yeah, it's it's interesting, cool stuff.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
Well, and that's what us collectors like. In fact, I
went out a couple I guess, well just a year ago,
a little bit over a year ago, and got a
new record player because I still have mine from the
eighties and I'm pretty sure it's not working, so I'm like,
I have to get a proper I have to get
a proper record player because I still have the vinyl.
But then I also love when when artists do these
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kind of anniversary celebrations and put out some of that
rare stuff. Aren't you glad people hit record on these
sessions of stuff that you were doing, you know, literally
outside and stuff that we still have it today.
Speaker 1 (03:55):
Yeah, yeah, it is great. I mean I've got a
great example of that, which was we recorded this concert
I did in nineteen eighty three, and it was at
the Marquee Club in London, very famous. Everyone played there,
Jimmy Hendrix, the led Zeppelin, who everyone played there. And
I've got to you know, I've got a live recording
of that of that gig, and I was I was
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remixing it, and it was like time travel, you know,
going back inside and remembering all the feelings you had,
and all the people in the audience could visualize them
and hear them, and they're all responding to the stuff.
And my first single was like just getting into the charts.
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That it was number forty four the night that I
played that gig, and it was going up, you know,
and so there was this incredible excitement in the in
the in the room of the packed club, and it's amazing.
What music can do is that it can transport you
and lift your spirits and make you feel like more positive,
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like in in just like a few moments. And this
is the wonder of being involved with music. You know,
I'm so glad that that would be my life.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
You know, Howard you you really it's it's and I'm
sure you probably hear this a lot. Your music is
a soundtrack for our lives. I mean, I remember, Things
can Only Get Better was out the spring, you know,
it was a spring and summer song of eighty five launched,
you know, launch your album that we're talking about here,
the fortieth anniversary. It was that was the spring of
my high school graduation. So Things can Only Get Better
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was as I'm going from high school to college. Was
literally on the radio every five minutes. And it's it's
it's a part of that soundtrack.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
Yeah, yeah, it's not great. I mean I'm so glad
that now, you know, people can hear it. The whole
new generation of people can hear it, and it's like
for them, it's it's a brand new song. And you know,
I just find music is just like a mystical thing
is that you can't even see it and yet it
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has a massive effect on us.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
Oh you know, I love I love it. I love
being involved in this world.
Speaker 2 (06:05):
Yeah yeah, well, I know things really started rolling for
you in eighty three and you know, we started seeing
you on MTV and then all of a sudden, just everything.
Every time Howard Jones song came out, we knew it
was going to be on the radio. And and the
other thing too that that really just blew my mind was,
you know, a couple of weeks ago when we had
the fortieth anniversary of Live Aid, which of course you
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were a part of that as well. What did what
is that hitting you like forty years later?
Speaker 1 (06:32):
Yeah, I mean I just feel so grateful that I
was involved with that because it really did save countless lives, yeah,
you know, on the other side of the planet, and
that was the motivation for doing it, and that's why
I really had to be part of it, and I
I you know, that day was so special. I got
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to do one song, which is Hide and Seek. I
did it at the piano and it was amazing, you know,
when I got the chorus and the whole of Wembley
joined in with me, and you know, you were aware
that like billions of people were watching on TV around
the world and joining in with this thing first global
you know, televised event. Really yeah, and you know, and
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I met, you know, David Bowie, I met Paul McCartney
and Linda McCartney and hung out with Sting and you know,
I mean, it was just an exceptional day. But I'm
so glad I.
Speaker 2 (07:29):
Was part of Yeah, that's what I was going to
ask you, Howard, because obviously, you know, when you've got
a crowd that massive, I mean, I can't even imagine
what it was like to walk on stage. You know,
you at the piano, they're listening to every word, they're
singing along with you, and then you get off stage
and you're like, oh, excuse me, Paul, excuse me, Linda.
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Oh it did me to bump into your Phil Collins,
you know whatever. So did you have any fun backstage
stories that you can share or was it all just
a blur?
Speaker 1 (07:58):
Yeah? There's one those both of them. But one was
that we were going to do another song that day.
I brought my back and thingers with me because we
were on tour in America. We canceled some shows. We
came back to London and we were going to do
another song live one day. Yeah, we're going to do
it a cappella. We were we were rehearsing backstage on
the on the grass, you know, because of the two
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the dressing ers were so tiny. Who came out David
Bowie and Pete Townsend came out of their dressing room
and stood two meters away from us and listened to
us performed the song and I thought, oh you I mean,
the girls didn't really know who they were, they worked
from that generation. But me, it's like, that's the best
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audience out folks. That was That was a great That
was a great moment, you know. And they they listened
and you know, kind of really loved it. You know,
it's great. It's wonderful.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
That is so cool. Yeah, you're sitting there going, I
know there's a billion people watching right now, but I'm
really happy these two are watching us.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
Yes, exactly, that's awesome.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
Well, Howard, I'll let you, I'll let you get rolling here.
Congratulations on the summer tour. I know you're out with
haircut one hundred and DJ Richard Blade. That's so cool.
I used to buy his compilation eighties albums you know,
back in the day as well, and happy fortieth anniversary
for Dream into Action. We look forward to that. You
could pre order it still at Cherryreed dot co dot
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uk and of course the Howard Jones website as well,
and hopefully we'll see you back around, if not this year,
next year. Okay, fantastic, Thank you Howard. Nice talking to
you all that, all right,