Classic Gardens from March 2nd, 2024

Episode Transcript

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It's the Classic Gardens and Landscape Showon the head. Ready and if you
want show up playing some grass togrow, tune us in Chris, Chris
and Chris. No, Chris knowsit, Chris knows it. Chris knows
it. Chris knows it. Chrisknows it. Chris knows it. Chris

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knows it. See Chris knows it. And now you're host Chris Joyner and
Chris Keith. Good morning, Goodweave. We the Classic Gardens a Landscape
Show on w r C. I'mChris Keaton, I'm Chris Joyner. I
hope everybody is doing fantastic today.Baby, man, what kind of weather
have we had the last couple ofweeks? It is brown. I took

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my shirt off last weekend. Wewere a scout my yard. So if
you're you're Bermudan's ay your grass,you can go ahead and scalp it.
And I got that done. Andthen the kids were all playing outside and
we were sitting on our patio furnitureand man, it was so sunny outside
and it was like seventy degrees andI said, hey, Sarah, go
get your sunglasses. Here come theguns. I took my shirt off getting

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that based hand down for the yearwho I was blinded, blinded by the
white Hell, I'm not a I'mnot a white person. Well, let
me rephrase, you're you're Indians.Yeah, you have you got Cherokee in
he or something. Right, I'mnot a white white guy. And uh,

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except for my beard. But uh, but with me and Teresa went
crappie fishing the other day, andyou know, it was only like sixty
five degrees. Yeah, so youknow, you get out there and it's
sixty five, You're thinking, okay, it's all right, you know,
and there was a kind of asteady eight or ten mile an hour breeze,

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right, so you don't realize,you know, and then sixty five
and it's you know, sonny outsideyou're not thinking, hey, look,
you know you're you're getting a tan, whether you realize it or not.
Yeah, that's right. So afterwe're out there about six hours, I
killed them, by the way.But after we were out there about six

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hours, got back to the shop, cleaned a fish, and uh,
did all that stuff. And youknow, Teresa went up the house and
she was doing her thing, andI got to the house and I looked
at her. I said man,you got some son, and uh she's
she's dark complexed too, not badas not as bad as me. But

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and uh lord, by the timewe got off that water, both of
us, like today, I canfeel it on my face, you know.
But it's it was nice. Itsure sure was, sure has been.
But you know, we're not donewith the cold. I mean,
you know we'll go. You know. It's and it's crazy too because I
had the opportunity the last few weeksto be here, being here in the

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garden center and you know, justdoing a lot of stuff, getting really
ramped up for long hair. Now, I mean calls are starting to come
off a hook or the phones arecoming off the hook because people are getting
on the on the bandwagon with thefertilization, and we'd control but you know,
doing some new things. And I'vebeen in the garden center helping Anne
out a lot, and it's justit's amazing that like it can you know,

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it can still be all through February, but you get like sixty degree
days sunny. You know, peoplecome in and they start asking for bedding
plants, and we're like, nowit ain't quite time for bedding plants.
Shit, Now we will be inour garden center over the next you know
what's see two months. You knowyou got all the March, all of

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April. Parts of a man.You know, we'll be getting bedding plant
trucks in left and right as theweather gets gets warmer. Once we get
closer to Easter. You know,Eastern is gonna at the very end of
March, so it's early Easter.But once we get closer to Easter,
that's when we'll start bringing in ourbig shipments. Now, No, Anne
had some a few little tropical thingscome in. I think she got a
handful of Boston fern hanging baskets becausewe had some people that wanted some.

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And I want to say that sheshe's gonna get just a small shipment of
betting plants and sufft that's kind ofa little bit more cold hardy. But
just keep up to just keep upto date, you know, call her
garden center and eight five four fourthousand and five. You know, as
far as when we're getting our bettingplant shipments in. But it's just easy
to do, man, you know, every and every year it never fails.

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You know. You see a lotof the big box stores they'll bring
in uh three hundred hanging basket ferns, and then uh we get we get
a couple of nights where it dipsdown into you know, into the thirties
up upper thirties or low thirties,and you get some heavy frost and it
never fails. I'll drive past thosethe same ferns a couple of days after
the fact, and the front halfof them are completely black because they got

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scorched from the frost. And uh, we just you know, we were
different from other other big box storesbecause like when a when a vendor brings
us the plants, nine times outof ten we stroke him a check right
there. So this plant are ours, So you're you know, we're gonna
take care of them. We're gonnabuy quality plants, and we're gonna make

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sure that we take care of themso that they look good going out the
door. And I know Anne's workedwith a couple vendors that are you know,
small mom and pop operations like usover the years, and the betting
plants and the perennials that she getsin during the spring months are absolutely fabulous.
I mean, just huge hanging baskets, beautiful perennials, so we're right

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there on the cusp of getting allthat stuff in, So just stay up
to date. Yeah, you don'twant to rush it. I mean you
go into and like you said,Chris, is you know, we get
a big shipment of plants in,or any shipment for that matter, we
pay for them. Right then.The big box stores most of their stuffs
on consignment. So if they getyou know, ten carts of plants in

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and they bring them in there,they unload them out there and it come,
you know, it's twenty degrees onenight, and it smokes them all
off that Hey, that's not theirproblem. They don't have to pay for
it, and uh, you know, it's sad for the grower, but
hey, they signed up for it, you know. So uh yeah,
just make sure you're not jumping thegun on that. I wouldn't plant any

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bedding plants. I would say untilthe earliest, I like the first of
April. You know, if youwant to put something in some pots or
something like that, that you canjust slide in the house or slide in
the garage and slide back out orwhatever, that's fine. But you don't
want to just jump the gun andplant you know, fifteen plants, flats
bedding plants out in your yard,you know, before that time period,

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because I mean, look at lastyear. My god, we had we
had the latest frost last year thatI can even remember, like in the
third week of May, right,you know, we were having frost.
Yeah, and you know, youput tender bedding plants out of that stuff,
and it's just gonna smoke them.You know. It's some stuff you
can get away with, some petuniasand marigold's things like that, and uh

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sway you go out there and stickyou know, fifteen flats of impatience out
there. Man, they're not gonnamake you know, so and some of
your other stuff too, I mean, and it's the same thing with vegetables.
You know that they'll start coming inhere. We'll start like just probably
in the next week or two,we'll start getting a little bit of broccoli
and stuff like that for people thatwant to plant some of the colder weather

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stuff, you know, collars,things like that. But as far as
like tomatoes and like your tender stufflike that, you're not gonna see a
bunch of that stuff in this gardencenter till probably mid March, you know,
even the first of April when weget a real good selection, just
because when it comes in, youknow, just like you have to protect

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it or not plant it at alluntil then we have to you know,
keep it in the greenhouse. Youknow, when how many times we ever
had to just you know, firethe heaters up and keep stuff in a
confined area until a little you know, three night cold spell went through probably
probably eight out of ten years.So we just don't like to bring in

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a lot of stuff that early andrun the risk of you being unsuccessful and
obviously us losing crops due to italso, And it's really to me,
it's a it's a disservice to sellpeople stuff when it's too early, you
know what I'm saying. Like,we know, if we get one hundred
hanging baskets in and we sell onehundred hanging baskets today, more than likely

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those are gonna die because they're gonnaget hit by frost. So we you
know, we do the same thingyou know, with our with our landscape
division, with our long cair division, with our garden center, Like we
want to make sure that we're providingthe customer with you know, the best
information or the best method or we'regiving them plants at the proper time,
or we're selling them the right chemicalso that they're successful. Because when they're

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successful, we're successful because good see, they're gonna come back and see right,
they're gonna come back and see us. And that's how we work through
all our departments, you know,from customer service to growing grass. We
used to tell people all the timethrough you know, when we were talking
about, you know, doing stuffthrough the garden center, I think I've
earned more customers trust by snatching somethingout of their hand than handing them something

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they didn't need. And that's thething is like if you go in a
big box store, there's not somebodystanding there at the chemical department saying,
hey, look, you know whatdo you what are you trying to do?
Where you come in the garden center, we're gonna get you exactly the
right product. I mean, youcan go in the Meglo Marty at anytime
and just grab you know, whateveron there and you know it says for

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fire ants, and you take thestuff home, you spread it out all
over the yard and you look onthere and it's like, well it's you
know, it's a it's a preventativeor you know it's it's not a curative
or you know what I'm saying.So you never know until you read the
fine print, you know what itactually works on. Like you may on

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something this broad spectrum. Most thingsnowadays are very selective of what they tell
you. I mean, this killsgrubs, and like this kills ants,
and like they've really made it towhere it's it's uh fine tuned, so
you're not you know, killing honeybees or like, you know, if

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your polluting the environment. And uh, that's what we try to do here
at the Garden Center is just steeryou in the right direction. To start
with. We want to diagnose,first off, exactly what the problem is.
And you know, a lot oftimes we'll tell you how you look.
Cut out a twelve by twelve pieceof your grass bringing in the garden
Center, let's take a look atit. You know, we don't need
all green or all brown. Youknow, it's it's hard diagnosing and that's

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really why we steer you in themost way to steer you. Hey,
you need lawn care. And thereason why you need lawn care is you're
going to have a trained guy outthere and he's looking at the whole yard.
He's not looking at twelve by twelvepiece because nine times out of ten,
with somebody brings me a piece inthe garden center, you know,
they don't bring in a big enoughsample. They don't, you know they
and or they left it in theirtrunk for two days and it's dried out

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in the weather and you can't tellwhat's going on, or you just don't
have enough there to go by.Where is a trained eye is out there.
It's just like your doctor. Youcan't, like, you know,
send him a picture of your fingerand say, hey, why's my stomach
curtain right? And you know,and it's the same thing when you go
to the doctor, he gets tosee your whole body, you know.
When that's the same thing with doinglong care. When come out there to

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do your long care, we gotthe whole long to look at because nine
times out of ten, when theproblem pops up, it pops up in
a small area and it increases,so we want to try to get it
when it's tea tiny instead of youknow, we come out there the next
month and three quarters of yards eatup with something. So that's it.

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Yeah, And spring like spring,can be very very tricky, even for
even for trained professionals, even likemyself, Like sometimes I go out to
the yard and I have to Imean, I'm like, I'm like,
uh, I don't know, Idon't know. You name a detective.
And that's what I'm like, right, because like you see a brown spot
when you first pull up, andit could be it could be some fungus

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popping up. It could be youknow, maybe we had some cold weather
and it just hadn't pushed out yet. It could be damaged from last year.
It could be it could be uh, insects, it could be layover
you know where the grass gets laidover. It could be you know,
tons of different things. And sothere's times where I literally have to just
tell home, all right, listen, give me a few minutes, let
me kind of wander around, letme dig through the grass, let me

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do some investigation. I'm gonna I'mgonna, I'm gonna figure out what this,
what this problem is, So Icould so I can't even only imagine
for like for a homeowner, andit's it's it can be difficult, basically,
is what I'm saying. So trainedprofessional like our guys had classic gardens
and landscape. That's really who youneed on the yard. And even like
my newer guys, so we weconstantly train. This past weekend, Jenny

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and I were at along care conferencelearning new things, you know, stay
up to date with the times.And then I'm always talking with our fertilizer
vendors, you know, about newproducts coming out and getting reports about,
you know, what all his othercustomers are seeing and what's going on.
And you know, I talk withdoctor Jacobe down at the Botanical Gardens a

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couple dozen times a year, justkind of let him know what I'm seeing
and then he'll give me feedback onwhat he's seeing. And so even you
know, my technicians that have beenwith me for you know, whether two
years or ten years. You know, we're constantly shooting pictures back and forth
to each other and figuring things outand constantly training and keeping up to date

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on everything. So there's a lotof time and effort that we put into
making sure that when we send aguy out to your yard that he's trained
and that he knows what he's talkingabout. And if he doesn't, well
they don't just blow smoke, youknow, they're like, all right,
I'm not sure, but hold on, let me call Chris Joiner, because
Chris Joinner knows most things. Socall Classic Gardens and Landscape tuesdayero five eight

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five four four thousand and five andget on the books. I can give
you a quote for fertilization. Wecontrol and take care of that for you
price wise. You know, typicallywe're we're somewhere right in the ballpark of
what you're actually treating your yard yourselffor, and we're doing it and you
don't. You don't have to dothe work. All you have to do
is enjoy, you know, sittingthere cutting your grass if you want to,

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or piddling in the flower beds,or just sitting back and enjoying it,
says, all you got to dois give us a call two zero
five eight five four four thousand andfive and get on the books for that,
and I can look at that,look at your yard for you.
All right, well, Chris,let's take a break right quick. Our
number if you want to give usa call again, that's two O five
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some Yes, you need someone toalone. Yes, you need some fertilo
on. If you ain't got it, you better get it. Yes,
sir, it's time to put apre emerging. Now. We've been we
actually have been preaching. We've preachedpre emerging all year, all year,
man. And the reason why isbecause you got to get on a long
care program as bad as you needa diet. And uh, you know

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this time of year, we're alreadystarting to see some of those Harvarders of
spring. Uh. Now we're startingto see some Forcythia Brook, code yellow
is what it should be. Right. That means that crabgrass is starting at
German eight now, which means you'vegot to get out of pre emerging.
Now you still got a little time. Oh yeah, the way a premerge
it works, you know, weused to say it sterilizes weed. See,

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but really it doesn't do that.The seed starts popping, and when
the seed pops open, it's gota little root here that runs out there.
And what that pre emergent does Thatburns that thing back and just kills
that seed right as it's starting tocome out. So the pre emerged that
we put out in the spring,you've got kind of like a fine little

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grace period. And that don't meanHey, look, Chris told me to
wait three weeks put my pre mergerout. I didn't say that. Yes,
all right, but get out there, get it out. If you
hadn't, if you're too busy,everybody's too busy, all right, call
us. We'll come out there anddo it for you. But you need
to get a pre emerging out rightnow. The yellow dandelions, man,

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we have had a bumper cross serverspop up over the last week or two
and hen bit purple flowery stuff allover people's yards that have procrastinated. Didn't
get anything on the yard last fall. I know it's hot and dry last
fall. A lot of people justskip the pre emergent because they were scared
to put anything on their grass becauseof you know, the dry conditions.

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But man, you got to startsomewhere, get back on the bandwagon and
uh, you know, give usa call eight five four four thousand and
five and get on some pre emergingI was looking at last week. I
was looking at the uh Syngenta,which is one of the big companies that
makes you know, all kinds ofall kind I mean, I bet you
they make I don't know, theymake a lot of of a horticulture and

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agriculture stuff. They probably make babyformula, you know, some of these
big conglomerates make any of them andeverything. But they have a soil temperature
map that you can look at,and uh, when I looked at it,
the five day average soil temperature basedfrom Birmingham, Alabama, was fifty
four point six degrees, So thatfifty five mark, you know, fifty
five degrees and if you look atif you look at their map, obviously

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it fluctuates, right, so youknow, you go through cold spell and
then that then that average drops downand then you get another warm spell when
it comes back up. Basically,all I'm saying is preaching premergent because we'd
see germination is based on soil temperature. Now back in the day when they
said that, uh, you knowwhen when all the old farmers said,
you know, when the Forsythia startsblooming. They knew all this stuff before

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we had computer technology, right,they just they knew once that forcythia started
blooming. I think I was readingan article and it said, you see
the forcythia blooming in two to threeweeks after it drops its blooms. That's
typically like when soil temperature is idealfor like crabgrass to start germinating. So
we're right, we're right there againat the cusp, you know, fifty

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five degrees soil temperature consistently consistently,that's uh, that's when that's when crabgrass
and other summer type annuals will startto germinate. Now I say summer type
annuals, and you're like, well, man, Chris, it's dad gone
March. You know what I'm saying, Why are you talking about summer annuals
because a lot of you won't see, like, you won't see crab grass
until it's almost summer, right,you won't see spurge and uh chamber bitter

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until until it's summer. You reallydon't see poet. You didn't see Poana
up until the last couple of weeks. But uh, if you go to
uh, if you go to areplay of our show back in September,
guess what we were talking about.If you don't put your pre merging out,
you're gonna see Poanna in February andMarch. Right, So look where
we are. You know, here, we here, we are right at
right at uh you know, rightat March. And you know, if

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you didn't do pre merging, yougot Poanna for sure. If you're if
your crape myrtles are black, youneed to come into our garden center and
you need to get the fertile loansystemic insect drench. Chris Keith, I
know that. Uh. We talkedabout it a couple of weeks ago,
and I think everybody in the statewas listening because we had to order more
fertile loan systemic insect drench. AndI think part of it is is this

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time of year, you know,especially like after you get a rain,
there's no leaves on the trees,and then you get a rain and then
that black just like it's glossy andit glistens and people are like, oh
my gosh, what's wrong with mycrpe myrtle. Well, over the past
several years, there's been a typeof insect called it's a type of bark

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scale. It's crape myrtle scale,and it looks like a little white booger
all up and down the branches ofthe crpe myrtle, and it sucks all
the sap out of the tree andthen it suscreeps what secretes what's called a
honey dew resin, and then onthat honey dew resin you get this black,
sooty mold and it basically looks likesomebody took a blow torch and uh

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and just burnt the whole tree andeverything around it. So if you got
that on your crpe myrtle, comeinto our garden center. We'll hook you
up with systemic insect drench and that'lltake care of it. It's super easy
to use. You on the willtell you how to use it's on the
directions. You basically just measure thethe circumference that circumference of the tree,
and however many inches you measure,that's how many ounces you use. Mix

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it up in a bucket, pouredaround the base. While you're done,
you're done for a year. Youdo it annually. So if you do
it, if you do that inMarch, then you wait till next March,
and you do it again. Ifyou do it in August, then
you wait till the next August.Then you do it again. Super simple.
You know, bark scale doesn't technicallykill a crape myrtle, but it

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just makes it look so daggum bad. And the thing about it is is
like you got other trees too,like cherry trees. If they get bores
in them, they're dead. Youknow, big white oaks, you know,
things like that. So any treasuretree, I say, in your
yard, use the system againstct drencheraround And I don't care if it's a
big cherry tree, if it's adogwood, that's just you know, a

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really pretty tree, or you know, a big oak that's gonna just you
know, your whole lot's gonna bedisfigured if you lose a tree. If
you if you feel like that aboutyour tree, you better put some drench
around it. Because a lot ofthese particularly bores, they don't they don't
they're not real choosy. You cansee bores in anything from crape murder to

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you know, most of the timeyou're gonna see them more in your dog
woods and cherries. That's kind oftheir candy. But they'll they'll attack a
big huge uh water are a bighuge white oak. You know, we
see them die every year. Yougot one in your backyard as dead as
a door naill. So uh yeah, just uh. You know, any
prize possession trees or plants, howuse the systemic consectors out on it and

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it will literally keep the bugs offof them for a full year. Yes,
sir. You can use it onshrubs too, if you have a
guardias that are just constantly getting whiteflies or azelle's. I've got a couple
of big as elias and no matterwhat I do, they still get lace
bugs on them. While I drenchthose and it keeps the lace bugs off.
Camellias are bad about getting scale too. They'll get a thing. It

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was a t scale I think thatyou get on the backs of the leaves.
You get that on those, andyou get it on hollies real bad
too. Yeah careful yeah, sobig private particularly privacy screen hollies. If
you're wanting to keep those healthy,you in and do that systemic insect drench
helps with that. We sell ithere at Classic Gardens and Landscape eighteen fifty
five. Carson Road. Truck's gonnabe rolling in Man more and more.

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I know we had some We hada shipment of plants in. When I
say plants shrubs, I know wegot beautiful kaleidoscope of bilias we got.
Uh, she had to because I'mhauling them out of pack. We had
some little Jim Magnoia's come in.I think we had twelve. We only
got two left. Uh, wehad I forget the name. It's called
North Pole. I think it wasa type of arbor vida that uh that

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uh, you can use for smallprivacy screens. So if you have a
you know a little patio or somethingthat you do not want something to gainst
twelve feet tall or ten feet tall. These get these stay smaller than that.
We had twelve of those, butthey're gone. Uh, but that's
probably more that she's gonna be gettingin. But plants are coming in and
uh and going out, and itwon't be long before, like like I
said earlier, we'll be getting bettingplants in and vegetables. So stay tuned

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for that. I know Anne willbe posting on our Facebook page when we
get those in, She'll be puttingpictures up. I'm ready. I like
when we I like this time ofyou or when we get into that time
of year, because like everything inthe garden center is flawless, like you
know, because we haven't had anyheat, and uh, all the bedding
plants are prime time. All theshrubs have new growth on them, and

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it's just the rebirth of mother nature, right. You know. I used
to joke Chris and say I gointo a deep depression every winter. Now
it's not a joke. I meanliterally, I'd go into a deep depression
every winter. I mean I thinkI'm just gonna have to, like,
I don't know, I might haveto move to the Bahamas. I think
I just I stay so busy duringthe weekends doing stuff I don't have time.

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You still got so much ball andI got it going on, man,
I ain't got nothing. We're headinglike I'm the I'm like the little
puppy you know, inside the house, just looking out the window. They
won't even kick him out in theyard. Man, it's so bad outside.
That's me in the winter time.Man, I'm telling you you remember
them Ballda ball Day, the ballgame days. Yeah, but was in

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the spring. Yeah. Yeah.We got a Panama City tournament that we're
going to and and uh, it'sgonna be rainy all weekend. I'm telling
every all the all the parents,you know, soccer parents. I'm like,
hey, everybody that's got one ofthose pop up tents game day tenths,
bring that because it's supposed to besupposed to be rainy all weekend.
I don't think it's supposed to bebad. It's like eighty percent chance of

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rain quarter inch total accumulation, soyou know, it's probably just gonna be
one of them drizzly all day long. Everybody's soap, everybody's nasty type games.
But I enjoy I tell you what, I enjoy it. I enjoy
it. I love every minute ofit because I get out there. We
can't heckle the refs anymore. Theydid away did away with that that at

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both soccer clubs that we've played outthey have they have policies against that because
you know, and it's I don'tknow how other sports are, but this
pertains the soccer, but it's it'sbecome very hard to find refs, and
so the ones that are there,they're either the old guys yeah, that
have been there forever, or they'relike sixteen year olds that you know,

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are just up and coming. Maybethey play competitive soccer or high school soccer
and they're looking to get into reffing. So you can't heckle the sixteen year
olds because it might hurt the feelings. Yeah, but nah, I understand
why they do that because they're youknow, every place I've played, you
know, they just they always talkabout it's hard to find refs, and
it's hard to find coaches, youknow, because most of your coaches,
like wreck ball wise, this isusually parents. They volunteer, you know

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what I'm saying. So anyway,enough about soccer. We're talking plants and
landscaping and lawn care. Yeah,let's take a break. We come back.
We're gonna talk about, uh,we're gonna talk about some landscaping and
stuff because we have been on somereally neat jobs over and trustful I tell
you about it. We come backon the Classic Gardens of Landscape Show.

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It's the show in the know withall things that grow. It's the Classic
Gardens and Landscape Show with Chris Joinersand Chris Keith,