Answering Gardening Questions from Our Amazing Listeners - Garden America [7.13.24] - Garden America - Gardening Podcast & Talk Radio Show

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(00:01):
All right, good morning, welcomeback Guard in America. This is Tiger
Pala Fox. We've got John banasco. Brian Maine is working with the mics
and studio. We're having some issuesjust with his mic, so hopefully we'll
be able to get things resolved throughthe show. But you know, we
still want to be able to kindof continue the program and be able to
bring you guys the Guarden American Showbecause we have a wonderful guest lined up

(00:24):
who we need to get on thephone, Brian, So if you stop,
you know, messing around over thereand actually be a contributing member of
the program. I can only sayall these things right now because he can't
talk back to me, you know. But you know it's before the break

(00:45):
we were talking John about some ofthe Garden myth at debunking with videos and
fake posts of plants out there.You know, but it is so fun
to just prouse the internet and seewhat's out there. And you know,
before we bring on play Wallace withclassic palladiums, you know, that is

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one thing also is just the plantsout there that are our funded look and
try to collect and you order alot of plants online you know you you
know, but you order from reputablegardens centers a lot, right, or
get them from you also reputable bythe way. Yeah, being able to
go in there do it. Thatreminds me. I'm going to ask because

(01:29):
I'll forget otherwise. In Fallbrook onMain Street are the most beautiful calidendron capensus
right now? And and I've beenlooking for that tree for like thirty years.
Can you get those the cape chestnuts? I'll have to look, you
know, because that's kind of likea trend tree. It was real popular
for a while. They are beautifultrees, right, but you don't see

(01:52):
them any you don't see them anywhereanymore, you know. So I'm sure
it's available, but you know it'sand it's not that it doesn't grow.
It's not that it's not a goodtree. No, it's a great tree,
but it just as a trend thathas fallen off. I'll have to
look for you, though. Yeah, I want Shannon. Once when my
wife I, by the way,we with all our problems, missed the
quote of the week. Oh yeah, yeah. I just read a book

(02:15):
called Papa Flora Bunda, which isthe biography of Gene Borner, which was
really interesting to me because you know, I know a lot about roses.
I know a lot about rose history. But what I never thought of was
how World War two affected the Germanrose growers or the European rose growers all

(02:38):
through Europe. And I got abackground and in some of the relationship between
how the US related to them,and that physically helped out some of the
people in Europe who had no food, you know, at times during the
war. But anyway, one ofthe famous rose growers, Wilhelm Cordus,

(03:01):
had this quote which I thought wasinteresting, and he said, the roses
in my life assignment were my lifeassignment. They're like the women, beautiful,
sparkling and desirable. Only after onehas them does one notice they usually
have thorns. You gotta look,you gotta look deep, right, you

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gotta look deep, find those thorns. Well, that was and again that
was an attitude from the from WorldWar two, in pre World War two.
So we're not disparaging women here,all right. So we have Clay
Wallace joining us right now from ClassicLadiums in Avon Park, Florida. Clay,

(03:44):
good morning, are you with us? Clay? All right? We
we again seem to be having somelittle technical difficulties here this morning. You
know, Brian will try to workon that, get it back. You
know, the average humidity in Fallbrookyesterday was ninety two percent. That's a

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that's a lot. Was it cloudy? It was really cloudy in the morning.
Yeah, it was overcast till abouteleven o'clock. And I looked at
my phone and said, possible rainin the next ten minutes. Really,
yeah, I do a summer thunderstormkind of thing. They said that that
some of that weather will be comingour way. But it didn't rain.
No, it didn't rain, butyou know, it was a such a

(04:30):
heavy miss that it almost felt like, yeah, it felt like being in
Hawaii or you know with our guestsin Florida. Yeah, like maybe being
in Florida. And it wasn't toohot. It was. It was actually
really pleasant. The plants loved thatkind of weather. Do you recall what
the temperature was at the ninety twopercent humidity? It was about eighty that's

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perfect. Yeah, a little youwalk outside, a little muggy, but
not too hot. Yeah, that'sclients love that. All right, We're
gonna try to again. Clay Wallace, can you hear us. I heard
him for a second Clay, goodmorning, picking up a little bit of
audio, but I don't know ifhe can hear us or and he's trying

(05:18):
to talk and we can't hear him. Right. For those of you not
watching on Facebook Live, Brian hasnow pulled out all of his hair and
is very frustrated. I loved howcalm and cool and collected he looked when

(05:40):
he thought it was on my end, you know, when he thought it
was my problem. And now thatthe tables have turned and the problems flipped
to the other side of the deskhere, you know, he's, uh,
he's I'm not sure who this wouldapply to. But you know,
Shelley devaulted a couple of days agoand we were talking about the movie pop

(06:00):
Eye that she was in, andone of my favorite quotes from her during
the movie was, you owe mean apology. So I think someone hero
is someone in apology. Yeah.Yeah, but you know, with with
all of this moving parts in here, you never know who it really falls
on. But we'll see if wecan get things going, and you know,

(06:26):
going from uh, you know,the program to program being able to
kind of connect the wires and gettingFacebook and getting the taped broadcast going.
It's always a fun challenge, allright, Brian. You couldn't find out
what was going on with that connection. Yeah, we've got a bigger problem

(06:47):
to solve than just okay, I'venever heard it put that way. We've
got bigger fish going on here,Melaprof. I wonder, I wonder if
this mic will work? Do youwant to turn this mic on and see
if it'll work? Do you remember? Yeah, but I have to go

(07:11):
over the well, you're not doingany work over there. We're done.
Well, see you do you?Since we couldn't have on Clay and Clay,
I'm sorry for this era. We'llmake it up to Clay and bring
it back on the program. Youknow classic kladiums out there in Florida.

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You know, I don't want togive too much information, but I had
a great discussion with him this weekabout Kalladiums, about Florida, about where
they grow, about the production,about the problems about new varieties. Do
you have any kladiums out there atyour house? One one, California is
not kalladium territory. No, youknow, they don't like they do like

(07:57):
humanity, but so they would haveliked. What was it Wednesday? Right
now they're happy and we have onein the shade, And but they don't
like hot, dry weather. No, that's the problem. They might do
better for you, right, Ithink so. I mean, I was
in La Joya on Wednesday and itwas drizzly, you know, but it

(08:20):
was warm, right, it wasnice. Carolyn is very sweet. Yeah.
See, I learned to project.Yeah he does. He does Brian
projects real well. I guess we'reokay. So obviously Monday, when I
get back, the first thing I'llbe doing is knocking on the engineer's door,
because I know somebody was in heredoing something on Thursday. Yeah,

(08:41):
and interesting, all of a sudden, you know, you know what engineers
you can tell they've been in astudio, you know what. I'm sure
they always love to get a Saturdaymorning text. As just ruined their weekends
of the air. Yeah, we'lltalk to you on Monday. Hey are

(09:03):
our good friend Tanya in San Jose? Oh, yeah, says that she's
got some sad news that they lostone of their beautiful Chinese pistache trees.
Oh. The two huge branches fellnot too far from where the children were.
You know because she has a sheworks with kids up there, and

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she said an arboros said it hadarmillaria root rot. She said the tree
looked healthy and was growing really fast, and so it actually broke branches his
way, That's what she said.It lost too. So I mean sometimes
with the root rot issues that thewhole tree will fall over, you know,
and that's that's no fun either.Somebody said they loved the picture of

(09:50):
me with the I think it waslast week's Newslaughter or was it this week's
with me in the corpse flower?Oh? Yeah, at the San Diego
Botanical Garden. Yeah, my wifeand I went there on our fifty first
anniversary. Really yeah. Wow.You know you know what's coming up July

(10:13):
twenty second Monday. That will bea Monday that will be Janina and I's
I mean, do the math realquick. What did I figure? Eighteen?
Did you get married? Uh?That's what I'm trying to think.
What I'm trying to think, Well, no one knows the year they got
married. I do talk about whendid you get married? Twenty fourteen?

(10:37):
Yeah, pre COVID huh anniversary?Yeah, I think I think we're two
thousand and five nobody remembers that theygot married. Of course I don't got
married. That's because I can't evendo the math, because that's there's multiplication
involved the vision. You gotta findsquare roots, long division. Yeah,

(10:58):
you get married two thousand and five. Ok okay, so yeah, nineteen,
that will be nineteen. So youknow, Rachelle says, says,
if this problem, Brian is dueto someone messing with your equipment, they'd
better start running. Yeah, right, word, Okay, Well, I've

(11:24):
been behind the scenes before. Ilove it. I love that. You
know, it's funny too. Doyou remember there was a radio show,
the Jeff and Er Radio program,right, and their producer, little Tommy
was in another room during their broadcast, right, and so whenever he would
chime in, there was always thatclick, and his voice was a little

(11:48):
bit different. Oh no, I'msure, but yeah, okay, yeah
exactly. That's kind of like youright now. You are production guy where
they here John and I nice andclear, you know, in the background,
I don't know, are you.I should probably take my headphones off.

(12:11):
I don't know what I'm listening to. I would never say, yeah,
I'm doing the same thing. Iwould never say you're annoying Brian.
All right, since we didn't,since we're not gonna be able to have
Clay on the program, are youkeeping trying track of our time? No,
that's long gone because the first twosegments, there's no way to really

(12:33):
get that back. No. Yeah, so I'll apologize to the network.
We'll figure something out. That's whatDana says. Dana says, I'm gonna
turn Brian's mic off at home too. That is a good point. Yet,
if it was only that easy,Dana just turn off his mic.
All right, Well, we're donemaking excuses. So if enneverur listeners want
to talk gardening and yeah, andyou've got a question, you know,

(12:54):
type it in and we'll talk aboutit. I do. I do want
to address the issue of the treeraw rot. Was that Tanya? You
said? Yeah? Okay, sothat is a big, a big issue
in the summer months too, becausethat's when it kind of exposes itself where
you have dead branches, you haveyou know, well, that's something oak
trees have, right, the armillariaroot rut. Yeah, yeah, because

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I'm wondering about that. I don'tknow if you remember, but on the
hill by the side of my drivewayup at the top next to the lemon
tree. I have a Chinese pistache. It's right, and it's starting to
grow really fast now, and I'mwondering, Yes, that's something I need
to watch out for. And ifyou remember a while back, we were
kind of talking about that concept ofroot rot issues, and not just the
one that we're referring to, butthere's a lot of other root rot issues,

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even with perennial plants. Yeah,and in the summertime, my top
throw is the most common right.Right. It is very difficult because you
want to water, but then you'reyou're creating a bigger right problem where you
have a combination of heat and moisturefor root rots. Yeah, so you
know, you you want to becareful. And the only thing that I

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could kind of say is number one, you know, make sure you're not
overwatering, right, and then numbertwo, if you're seeing an issue,
a good fertilizer like the HB oneoh one or some kind of fertilizer that's
going to be fast acting into therekind of helps push out some of the
issues. Because there's no real othertreatment. You just got to kind of
balance it, right, John,Yeah, there there's some systemic fung besides

(14:24):
that, maybe you can use insome like professional growers to use it,
but not there's usually not something youcan go to a garden center and purchase
over the counter like that. Yeah. So if you have a tree,
you can call an arborous that actuallywill apply products. But yeah, I
think for most root rots you wouldhave to have some type of soil drench

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and like you said, those aren'tvery common anymore. Yeah. One thing
that one problem I'm having with thisweather is just as I thought I was
getting wheat controlled, they're just it'sa si right right when you get it
controlled for some reason, these newones there's a new crop, yeah,
all the seats in the ground.And then and then it's not the same

(15:07):
ones too. Yeah, so meaningyeah, it's nice to have a change
in base. Is that what you'resaying. Well, no, but now
person lane is everywhere, it's it'sdifferent weeds with different seasons. And so
right when you get oh I've gotall the spurge under control, I mean,
I'm good to go, and nextthing you know, it's like the
dandelions all come out and then thedandylions go away. And now it's this,

(15:28):
you know, it's so what's happening? I personally think go away.
The person lane crowds out the Japanesespurge. All right, can you see
it there, dude? Terra says, what do you think a clay pellets
is a soil alternative as far asusing it medium? Yeah? What plants
like them? Well, that's forhydroponics usually, you know, or you

(15:54):
know orchids that people would normally growin bark, that kind of stuff.
Are those pellets hmm? Yeah,I thought those weren't available anymore. I
could be wrong. I don't know. I would like those. I've been
looking for them. These coming big. You could have like a fifty pound
bag and weigh four pounds. Youused to feel really muscular. Yeah,

(16:15):
yeah, but I liked those forI'm not sure that's what you're referring to,
Tara, but they were great,like tiger sists for orchids, but
also for succulents. Yep. Iwould mix them with regular soil to just
lighten it up. They a lotof people. I mean, there's such
a versatile thing in the sense oflike a pummice. Yeah, in the
sense of you can put it inthe bottom of your pot to how I

(16:37):
have drainage on the bottom, Butit's a lighter weight than pummus, right
right. You can put it ontop of the pot to kind of keep
the soil damp and moist like amult but without having being an organic material.
You can use it as a growingmedium for things that you would just
start in pummice or vermiculite or anythinglike that. Why would you say they're
not available anymore? John Well?I used to buy those like forty pound

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bag sizes that were very light andI can't remember the name. Maybe it's
just the brand name that I couldn'tfind anymore. But you know what Terra
says, TIMU sells them. Ohso I have to ask my wife if
they're available. She's got the app. Well, we got a regular order
delivery. How does that semi fitdown your driveway? Carolyn wants to know

(17:27):
the best time to prune and ourbautist Marina was supposed to be a dwarf.
I didn't. Is there a dwarfcompacta? Is there Maria compacta?
Really? Yes? Okay? Notas opposed to the regular Yeah, as
opposed to that? Okay, Well, that's nice. She said it was

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planted by a concrete sidewalk to thehouse. She says the birds love it
but tend to avoid the berries,leaves, et cetera. So she wants
to know the best time to pruneor senate. Mmm, do they cause
a problem because my landscape or plantedone like a foot from the walkway?

(18:11):
Are you talking about me? Idon't want to mention the name, but
so I I thought, you knowagain you're thinking, and I understand would
be that how long is John goingto be around before this is a problem
cause the problem? Yeah, Idon't think that they caused me. I
didn't think so either. I thoughtit was fine where it was. It

(18:32):
looks good. Yeah, No,I I don't recall them having super big
problems with that. As far asthe time of year to prune them,
though, what do you think,John, because fear of putting it that
blooms on and off throughout the year, right so it's kind of a tough
time because right now mine is comingback in a bloom and it bloomed earlier.
But I would think anytime while they'regrowing, you could I don't know

(18:55):
if they go a little dormant inthe winter, yeah. The only the
only thing that I get concerned withthe a summer heat is. One thing
I've noticed is that when they doget pruned, because they are nice,
they shade themselves nicely. Is whenyou prune and it's real hot, I've
seen them look damage, look burn, look a little droopy after a prune

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if you do a hard prune.But if you're just doing a lot Carolyn's
right on the coast, Yeah,no big deal. So and again it's
mostly if you're just doing a hardprune, but if you're just doing a
light prune, like it seems likeshe just wants to control it. That
it could be anytime. They respondreally well, the lacing out, so
a lot of the inside growth andsuch a beautiful tree that you want to

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Yeah, there's only a few treesout there that you grow because of their
bar and this has got the barkand the flowers and yeah, and the
berries. Yeah, and even theleaves are a nice deep green look,
you know, nice looking foliage too. Now are they a little messy?
You mentioned leaves? Noticed, Idon't know if usually evergreen trees will drop

(20:04):
leaves at one time, right,occasionally, yep, But anyway, this
one seems a little messy, butI don't know. I think because it
has a larger leaf, it's youknow, compared to some of the other
evergreens, it's more messy. Butthen at the same time, that larger

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leaf also allows it to get pickedup easier than some of the other plants
that have the small leaf. SoI think it just different. It is
just a different mess I will saythough, that the fruit. It's funny.
Carolyn mentioned the birds like it,but they're not eating the fruit.

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That's a big selling point for thattree is that birds love that tree fruit.
You know, they call it strawberrytree because you know, the little
red berries on it that they get. It's very attractive to a lot of
creatures out there. So it's agood tree to put in the yard for
a a good environmental tree in thesense of, you know, habitat That's

(21:06):
what I'm trying to think of,saying, habitat tree. Have you noticed.
I don't know if it's just thisyear, maybe because we're having a
little more heat, but the ulsterarea are phenomenal. And I finally,
I finally use Pat Welsh's method ofpulling out the old auster area because you
think you're going to kill it,right. Yeah, do you notice the

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difference. Yeah, they completely rejuvenatedthem. They look fantastic. But I
had someone asking me about where tobuy perennial or where to buy ulsterme aria.
And there's a company called Adelweiss Perennials. I think they're in Washington,
but anyway, they've got you canorder online and it's the largest selection of

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ulster area I've ever seen. Andthey've got all sizes as you get dwarf,
mid size or the tall floorest ones. But you know, our buddy
Joel doctor Ross who's a rose grower, also collects ulster area and he gets
most of his from there. Nice. So, any of our listeners that
want to know Adelvice Perennials, Carolynwants to let you know, Tiger that

(22:17):
even the crows won't eat the fruit. Really, that's what she says,
really, but she does want someonethe tree. Someone's got to be listening
out there that tells me that theirbirds eat the beautist route because right,
isn't that kind of what they're knownfor is to have a fruit, and
you know, you know the thethose trees are more popular in northern California,

(22:42):
right, Yeah, I mean wegrow them down here, but you
see them a lot up in northernCalifornia. Yeah. So the one that
you planted to my house is thefirst one I've ever owned. Really,
Yeah, you didn't have one atthe other house. I've never had one.
Such pretty trees. Yeah, Ihave a spot for one. I
have not installed it yet because it'sthe area where I'm going to put It

(23:04):
was the area where we were goingto do construction, and I knew that,
and I did not want to investin the tree, knowing it was
going to get ruined. But thiswinter, I'm gonna plant one. I'm
very excited about it because I lovethat tree. Arbutus, speaking of trees,
are you still thinking I recommend thatyou plant a bald cypress in your

(23:26):
wet area? Yeah? Are youstill thinking of maybe doing that? No,
because in that same area, I'vegot a triangle palm and I don't
think I have the room for it. So yeah, they're really fast growing.
Yeah, like they might be aeucalyptus in a race if they were
in Carlos says that she ordered acouple of roses for Christmas with a December

(23:51):
fifteenth delivery date from heirloom roses.She wants to know if that's a bad
time. Should she ask them tobump bump it up to October? If
they're going to deliver, there's nothingwrong with I mean, that's heirlooms.
Roses are all in one gallon contained, right, they're coming in soil,
they're coming in right. But bearroots season is that time of year,
so a lot of people are gettingroses. Yeah. I was gonna say,

(24:12):
so, what is what's gonna happenthere? She's gonna receive this rose.
Well, they're being a one galloncontainer and nothing will happen for two
months, right, and it's fine, no big deal. Yeah. And
actually on the coast, if it'smild, they might leaf out and just
be okay. Yeah, So ifthey're for Christmas, I would say December

(24:33):
fifteenth, it's fine, Brian,now that you can, now that I'm
now that I'm here, I'll justmonitor the audio. Did your rose ever
leave out that you got from John? You know what? Anything funny?
You mentioned that you gave us two? You gave me too. I gave
you so so the ones? Yeah, you gave him too, Lotti Da

(25:00):
I got Lotti. So one ofthem still, nothing's really happened. It's
still green, it's viable. Theother one that went out yesterday to the
patio, and it's starting to bloomand boom. Yes, what's that?
No, it's blooming without leave.No, it's got leaves. No.
I have two of them. Onenothing's happening with one. You've got two

(25:23):
different ones. Yes, we justtalked about that lot of dah so.
So one nothing's happening yet, noleaves nothing. The other one leaves and
it's starting to bloom. The thethe pedals look red. It's a reddish
color. I was going to takea picture for God to because I was
so proud. I was going tobe because a couple members of the Rose
Society came up to help me plantup the extra one, right, and

(25:47):
they you know, I gave themeach one to take home, and they
all said, there's died. Okay, So what I'll do when I get
When I get today, John,I checked it. It's got little a
little bit. I'll take a picture. I'll send it to you today.
It got several blooms coming up.Actually, yeah, it looks really nice.

(26:08):
Brian has grown something. Tiger can't. Yeah, and you and you
said yours is fine. Not allof them, though, No, I
have some that not a single leafon the plank. Okay, and I'm
thinking that. I'm still thinking thatthey'll grow. Yeah, mine's in the
ground. I told you I planteddirecting the ground. Well, see now
that might make a difference because Brianand I are right, so we had

(26:32):
more control than you do. Yeah, well to some degree. But I
think that's what mine was called,Lottie, what were mine called? Do
you even remember? Recall? Onewas called something English, English coral or
something like that. Well, it'stoffee. You're talking about red coral because

(26:55):
what I'm seeing are reddish blooms.But as they as they mature, they
could change into an orange. Idon't know, true, but I will
take a picture today thinking a Marina. Maybe he's talking about Marina that's blooming.
Marina is coral like your orange,well orange but bright. Yeah,
I love my love my. You'retalking about the two that you just got,

(27:17):
the two that you gave us,and you said good luck because they
look like two sticks, because Marinayou gave us in pots and that's doing
well that I showed you that thatJohn said they were gonna be orange,
and they are orange. So justso you know I have I have a
big yard. Okay, yeah,but you have lights. I don't.
I don't necessarily have roses are hardbecause they can't just be incorporated in the

(27:42):
landscape for me. Because number one, if I put him near the pool,
the kids, that's why you haveso many formal roast gardens. Yeah,
no, it's the truth. BecauseI put him near the pool,
someone's gonna scrape on him. They'regonna pop a ball, whatever, going
to be in the pool. Yeah, you know, like anyway, so
I can't put him near the pool. Then I don't want to put him

(28:03):
in, you know, another partof the yard because they don't really match
with you know what I have inlandscape. I don't want to put them
in this other part near the basketballcourt because the balls always go in this
area and the kids are going tobe scraping themselves as they get the balls
out. And so I have thisarea and I've got orange juice Chrysler Imperial,

(28:26):
the one that you plant that gaveme Marina, and then one other
one I can't remember the name offthe top of my Head's a yellow one.
It's a yellow one that you recentlygave me to, very pretty rose.
But it's it's almost like I don'thave room for more. And I
know that John's saying that. Sayingthis to John is just cringing at him,

(28:48):
because I have a lot of spacein my yard. But that's kind
of like what you said. That'swhy you have formal rose beds is because
they don't incorporate all that well intothe landscape sometimes, or they're difficult to
incorporate in the landscape. And I'mrunning out of space. You forgot Peggy
Mark. I got Peggy Mark.She's back there. She's she's all back
there along the fence. You knowwhat said it, and forget it.

(29:11):
That's Peggy Martin. Don't worry aboutit. It's so funny. I had
some friends come over to my housethe other day and they're from New Orleans,
and I said, hey, Igot this rose pig. Martin told
them, weren't they the ones yougave one to? No, that was
another friend from New Orleans. Butand they're like, oh, you put
her off in the back where nobodycan see. And I'm like, well,

(29:32):
I didn't know what I didn't knowwhat was going to happen. I
didn't protecting her from hurricanes exactly.Nothing's going to hurt her here. This
is for her own good. Ofcourse, the hurricane didn't hurt her either.
So John, if I take apicture when I get home, you'll
be able to identify which Rose itis. No, not at all,
not at all. There's a tagon it. The ones that you gave
us someone called Champagne Dreams. Nowthat I think of it, Chavyard mysteries

(29:56):
or something. I think it wasChampagne dream Do you remember that intro?
Did you say it in the showwith them? You know what somebody watching
is going to chime in and letus know, Caviard dreams and Champagne wishes.
Was that what it is? Oh, Champagne wishes, Caviar dreams.
That was what it is, wishesand Caviar dreams. Those particularly roses i've

(30:22):
never seen bloom So Lottie Die andthe other two I've never seen Bloom English
Coral I think was the one theywere. Uh. The Lottie Die was
a new name for an older weeksrose that Tom Caruth Bread and the other
two are newer ones from Jackson andPerkins, so I've never seen them,

(30:47):
so I'm kind of looking forward to. Yeah, I was surprised when when
I went out there John, becauseI'm like, wait, where'd you where'd
you come from? Which one?Oh, you're one of the ones John
gave us. And actually there areseveral that are starting to bloom. Oh
my plumerias are starting to bloom.I haven't. I do not have an
official bloom yet, but I havesome very uh nice bud no bud like

(31:15):
I have leave really now, youknow, all mine froze, but I
had one, the one that myson left when he moved. And for
some reason, the hundreds of dollarsI spent on the plumeria, they all
died. But this one grew andit put out leaves and then a flower
flower buds like you're talking about,and something ate all the leaves off the

(31:38):
plumeria. Really, and what wouldthat be? What would eat a plumeria
leaf? Well, That's what I'mwondering. I mean, of course there's
rabbits, ground squirrels, but I'mwhat I was thinking, it might be
what grasshoppers do it because they havethat white milky substance in there that normally
grabb it or the rabbits and groundsquirrells don't usually so I'm thinking maybe more

(32:02):
like a grasshopper. I'm thinking morelike an insect kind of it. Now,
can you identify it? But butwhat I call the chewing pattern,
like we know when it's a rat. Well that's why I kind of thought,
because it was irregular chewing all onone side and then eventually the whole
thing. I mean, but itate every leaf that was on it.
Yeah, I discovered that we havesquirrels. Never seen a squirrel in my

(32:25):
life until last week and one ranacross the wall, like you kid,
we have rats squirrels? Is ita do you know what a ground squirrel
is versus like a tree squirrel?It? It does have a fluffy,
big tail. It went by,it stopped for a second. I was
able to identify it, then itran off, So I don't know.
Now I'm going to assume it.Well, hard to say. We have

(32:46):
lots of trees. But because thetree squirrels are cute and fun and they're
all right, ground squirrels are justdestructive and problematic. Sorry about that.
Testing. Usually I can turn mymic off, but it's on the other
side. Yeah. No, butit's interesting because we've got the rats,
We've got the squirrels. Now,I imagine those raccoons around. Haven't seen

(33:07):
a raccoon. Rabbits, We dohave rabbits, Yeah, coyotes. Carlo
says that tiger you're in tune withher husband? Why she just ignores him
though, She says that she's alwaysgot a place for another rose. Oh
that's so funny. It sounds likeme taking plants out of the dumpster.

(33:29):
Yeah, it is, oh man, And I'm I would like to have
more roses. I like roses,but it's just tough to incorporate into the
landscape. And I don't have anyyou know what. You know what of
course was a little weedy and didn'tlook at its best. But do you
know, uh, Pollyantha Hill,Yeah, Pollyantha roses. I think we're

(33:53):
great into the the landscape because youare right, if you're talking about hybrid
tease, they have more of aformal appearance, and they they kind of
they're a little conceited, you know, they don't want anyone coming near them.
It's just like we're going to growlike this stiff and put out these

(34:15):
nice flowers. Just leave us,don't plant anything near me. Yeah,
your in your entire yard. Okay, okay, are you saying that you
couldn't come up with an area thatyou could dedicate to roses. That's out
of the way. Here's what's said, Brian. You have more roses than
tiger? Do you? I have? I think I have fifteen? Oh

(34:36):
yeah, you have a lot morethan me, like ten more than do
you know what? I counted yesterdaybecause so the walkway leading up to the
front door used to be nothing outthere. All of my plants were in
the patio and then I had tomove some this new hoa. They don't
even they don't care, they don'tlook. There's no walkthroughs. I counted
twenty three potted plants leading up tothe front door, down the sidewalk,

(35:00):
and then ten more plants in thepanti. You. Wow, do you
still have George Burns? No?Oh, I haven't had George Burns since
Gracie died in sixty five. Ithought that was a while back. I
you know what, George Burns didn'tmake it over to the move from San
Tee. Yeah, but I thoughtthat someone was getting Oh no, you
know what, I'm sorry yeah,look at that. Yes, somebody doesn't

(35:21):
even know. We'll see when youhave a lot of roses. Yeah,
yes, I do have one,a smaller one leading up. Yeah,
you just right, yeah, becauseI just noticed that our my apologies,
our good friend from the Bay area, Jan Jan, gave that to you.
Yes, yeah, yeah, I'mso sorry. I'm thinking of the
old ones that you gave me back. But that's why you were lamenting the

(35:44):
fact that it died on was oneof your favorite roses. Yes, oh
I love that, George Burns.Yeah, so so props up to jan
Jan. Thankank you so much.Jan a million, thank you. Jen's
comment reminded me on the way upto go visit my mother in law last
weekend. We stopped in Santa Barbaraat the Mission and they have a rose

(36:05):
garden in front of the Mission inSanta Barbara, and they have all kinds
of roses planted, and they're youknow, some old ones, some new
ones, and it's funny because stillthey maybe had eighty varieties of roses,
and Double Delight was still the mostfragrant one out of all eighty roses.

(36:30):
Because I mean we went through everyrose and smell them, and you know
and all that Lincoln. I wantto say yes, I do want to
say yes, there was a misterLincoln that does stand out in my mind
as seeing it there. But Iwas a little bit disappointed, and I
hope nobody's offended. That works therose Garden in Santa Barbara. But they

(36:51):
have such a beautiful area to putthese roses, and they've got such a
good amount of space, but theywould dedicate like a whole bol Like you
know the beds you're talking about ofcreating in your house, right, imagine
if you just filled one of thosewith iceberg? Why exactly why would you
do that? You have a hugebed, I mean, what are we

(37:14):
talking. You can fit maybe thirtyforty roses in one of those beds.
Yeah, why feel it all waythe same thing? Why feel it all
in iceberg? Of anything? Andthat's what happened at Wisconsin Gardens. They
had roses from all over the world, grouped by the country they came from,
and just one of the best collectionsin the whole country, and they

(37:37):
bulldozed most of it out. Andyou know planet, you know, maybe
one hundred of each variety of twoor three roses. Yeah, I mean
I want to see the difference alongalong the old adobe wall that they have
there. Yeah, they had oneof each of these old and I can
tell they were like maybe some ofthe original Old World roses. Yeah,

(37:58):
like the original roses that were therekind of a thing. And I'm like,
that's interesting, that's neat. I'msorry, this giant block of icebergs
or you know, different, youknow, normal ros I was like,
you know, I'm kind of disappointed. I wish they would have had more
selection, more variety. John hassomething funny to read? Or do you?
Oh well, it was that aboutyou. One of the listeners said,

(38:22):
Brian looks like he's in time outin the corner. Yes, I
have no idea what's happening on theboard. The board's probably better off without
me. There's lights blinking and yeah, and warnings are popping and look at
it. It's frozen and there's amessage. Yeah that's what I'm saying.
Okay, so today we have aproblem with the board. My computer keeps

(38:45):
freezing up. We can't get aphone call through. It's gonna be a
wonderful thing on Monday for the engineerswhen they come in. Yeah. Yeah,
oh, and you're now your phone'sringing. Let's see that is a
doctor. Fans a doctor calling me? Are you kidding me? And of
course my phone is way over there. That's going to be annoying. Should

(39:07):
stop it. Why would a doctorcall me on Saturday unless it's your test
results? Exactly. Maybe he's listeningto the show. Now that's that's my
dentist. Actually, we don't wantto say, uh, why your doctor
would be calling you, but let'sjust say you hit a procedure. I

(39:29):
had a procedure, Yes I did. Hey, here's a question for you.
Tiger Rick and Idaho says he's growinga row of corn all right,
which I don't know if that's aliteral row of corn, but if it
is, it's a mistake because youneed three rows of corn in order to
get pollination, to get the seeds. You just put them all in the

(39:49):
line, right, otherwise you'll havehave missing seeds. Right. Uh,
some of the plants aren't growing atthe same pace as the others. Why
would some be stunned when all theplants got the same soil and water?
Oh? Yeah, this this isinteresting because when you see a field of
corn, you know, you kindof always see them you know, all

(40:12):
the same height and you know alluh, you know. But as far
as why that, why that happens, A lot of it kind of has
to do with the germination in theyou know, in when you planted them.
So so you plant I think he'sgot clay soil too, which might

(40:32):
affect it. Because I was goingto say, like, you know,
you plant them in these areas,you think you're all growing in in the
same but see this, and you'llsee it in a field, you know
where if you go into a fieldof corn rick towards the edge of the
field, the plants are always smallerthan in the inside of the field.
And it's because, like you're saying, clay soil and water settles, and

(40:54):
so you might think you're watering allthe same. You might think it's all
the same, right, but youknow, these are farmers that plow these
things very even and they water distribution, and they still get that variable in
height. And so it has todo with the germination that that one seed
may be germinated a little quicker thanthe other seed, but they do catch

(41:15):
up, they do catch up witheach other. I don't think you have
to worry about that, And kindof like what you're saying though, John,
that you know, the the bestway to grow corn is in a
grouping, not just in a line. Yeah, because they harness when pollinated.
Not there's no insects that pollinate carright, so all that has to
be yeah, mixed, all thatfoliage has to be mixed together. Yeah.

(41:38):
Yeah, not the foliage so much, but the flowers. But it
looks, it looks I mean,so even planting them in like a you
know, not not a line,but in a circular pattern or you know,
like you said, if you're gonnado three lines of them, but
I mean it's and then you knowthey get eight feet tall. You gotta

(42:01):
you gotta make sure you can doit. Sometimes in Idaho where he's at,
does he get you think he getsa lot of wind because if you
just have a row, if youjust have a row and you get a
good wind storm, they're all justgonna get knocked over. Well, even
if they don't get knocked over,you're not gonna get sufficient pollination. But

(42:21):
there's a you reminded me of awebsite that sells giant seats for giant vegetables.
Oh do you remember that one?Yeah, they had a corn that
would reach eighteen to twenty feet tall. That's ridiculous, And the purpose of
that would be why be cool?Yeah, because I have an eighteen foot
tall corn stock. Oh here,let me grab a corn cut. You

(42:42):
know what that would be a coolthing to do is if you're a farmer,
like at one of these like pumpkinpatch kinds of things, and you
just talk, well, just giantvegetable farm. Oh yeah, you know
what I mean, Like, imaginewalking into this secret garden because you've got
sunflowers that'll grow the saying and youknow what Paul Bunyan nursery or Paul Bunyan

(43:06):
or who was the jack jack ajacket the Yeah, there's all kinds of
things you can have fun with it, right, that would be cool.
A giant because even they have poundcantaloups. Yeah, are they sweet?
It doesn't matter they're giant, doesn'tmatter the taste. Yeah. But wouldn't

(43:27):
that be kind of a fun placeto go do because kids would love it
too, be a great place tobring the family, right, Yeah,
Yeah, that'd be a lot offun. A giant fruit and vegetable garden
terrorists that it would be like WillieWonka for vegetables. Yes, yeah,
very good. Exactly. Yeah,that's a great idea. Listeners cracked me

(43:47):
up, and viewers. We hadthe little, uh little comment about Brian
that I just read sitting in thecorner of my time out and your time
out. That's what says. Nobodyputs baby in the car. Perfect timing,
perfect, we do. People arefunny. Oh my gosh, this

(44:08):
has been This has been kind ofentertaining in a roundabout way. This morning.
People hung in there with us.In the beginning, I'm looking at
the numbers thinking they're going to startto drop off, and we actually had
more people join us, and thenit leveled out. We really appreciate and
we appreciate you very much. MustOn from Pakistan joined us just when we
were getting out of the problem.I hope, yeah, he's heard the

(44:34):
foil crinkling and was a little bitand foil and what are they doing over
and I put the headphones on.I'm like, WHOA so terrible? I
love, I love. I don'tthink you were so distracted, But I
did make a comment when it wason my end, when we thought it
was all comfortable, you were justkicking bag you're oh. And then and
then I put on my headphones.I'm like, if I hear it through
here, I know it's that.And then I'm like, oh no,

(44:55):
no, I got to look intothis because you know it was your problem.
John and I are talking away andthen but you know what, good
good for troubleshooting because actually now weknow the problem. Yeah, we know
exactly the hookup of this mic,and it affects everything when that mic is
on, it's affecting these mics aswell. Right, So okay, John,

(45:15):
what I here? The hits andcomments just keep on coming. Well,
everybody loves talking about you. It'sfunny to talk about. Yeah.
Christine says that Brian's sitting over therewith the interrogation light. Yeah, confess,
Brian. I was not there.I don't know what you're talking about.

(45:37):
It was home and can you proveit? Well? Who can can
you corroborate that I was alone?Tanya says that we're always worth waiting for.
Oh, thanks, that was nice. We really appreciate it. Who
someone made the comment in the verybeginning of the program that we couldn't decipher
quite John. Was that Tanya orwas that? Who was it? Remember?
It had to do with the shade. Dead shade is better than this

(45:59):
shade, the tree, something witha tree? That was Lisa. I
wonder she said that dead shade wasbetter than no shade. Yeah, I'm
not sure what she meant by deadshade. Yeah, so, Lisa,
if you're still listening, there wasa very interesting comment. You know what
we were trying to figure out.Did you mean having a dead tree in
your yard is better than no treeor dead shade meaning like some kind of

(46:22):
shade structure. I think it's agreat name for a rock band. Dead
shade is better than shade. Ilove that. Or just dead shade,
dead shade, just dead shade,metal band, anything, dead shade,
night shade, shade, metal shade. There you go. Anything. Are
we caught up John on the comments? I think so. I think early

(46:44):
on I might have missed a few, but he's writing back if we do.
Obviously, if we missed your comment, retype it in the comment section,
and you know, we'll put youto the front, front of the
line, front of the classes.They say, John, you know that.
I'm trying to think what it wascalled. Was it called the Three
Sisters? Uh? That's sound familiar. To you guys, but not from

(47:07):
high school. Oh this is Ithink it was Native American planting. They
would planting one corn, one bean, and one squash or pumpkin anyway.
Yeah, and and Rick said thathe planted the bean seed next to his

(47:30):
corn. He wants to see ifit'll climb up, uh and underneath it
and a fish there you go.That's good. Yeah, but you have
to remember that you shouldn't put itin all three seeds at the same time.
I don't know if the Native Americansdid that or not, but if

(47:52):
you're planting pole beans, they're Imean they're going to germinate the same time
as the corn, and they're goingto grow faster in the corn, and
there's nothing for him to climb,so you want to stagger it. I
would let the corn germinate first andget to be maybe a foot tall,
and then put the bean next toit, and then the last thing be
squashed. You can plant the squashanytime. The squasher could corn at any

(48:15):
time, yeah, because you know, no matter what, it's just going
to grow along the ground and right, but that also grows fast and it
might shade out the seeds, sothey don't germinate from the other things.
Yeah, I don't know. Yeah, I do notice the ring light in
my shot that, Yeah, thatcould be distracting. I was gonna put
it over your head and have itbe like a halo. Oh there isn't

(48:36):
one already there. Yeah, Ihope that's not too distracting, that that
ring light. Christine wants to knowif certain varieties of Plumeria are hardier than
others. Oh, yeah, youyou killed one of the hardiest varieties.
Which one you're like, narrow leafone, remember that you got. I
got it like two years ago.I don't think that was hardy. Thought

(48:58):
that was very tender. Oh really, I thought for some reason it was
hardy. That was the one youthink you're talking about, the one native
to Cuba that has like pine needle. Yes, oh no, that's probably
one of the most tender. Mymistake. Yeah, don't put the bad
mouth on me for something like that. Don't put the bad mouth on but
but yeah, with your bad self, John, it's gonna put tiger in

(49:21):
the court. Well, first ofall, I'm not sure about specific varieties,
but definitely species. So there's evergreenplume areas which come from Asia.
I think they're like Singapore plume ariasand and being evergreen, they're the most
tender, and there are different varietiesof those. But then the deciduous ones

(49:45):
are native to Baja and they're heartierbecause they are deciduous and they go dormant
in the winter, and you seea lot of those in Hawaii too.
You see both in Hawaii, butusually the bigger ones are those deciduous ones,
and those are pretty hardy. Thenthere's some more uncommon species and I

(50:05):
think it's Stenophila was the one thatlooks like pins. Yeah, and those
are native to some of the Caribbeanislands, and those are more tender.
And then along with that the floweringcycle, meaning you know, they don't
all bloom at the same time.You know, some are very early,
some are very late, and peoplewill get discouraged and frustrated because they're like,

(50:27):
oh my, I see your plumeriasare blooming, but mine's not yet.
Well, you know, it couldhave something to do with where you
grow it and how it's grown,but also it could have something to do
with the type that it is.Because some bloom later in the season and
some bloom earlier in the season.It's just the way it is like if
I have I have maybe about twentydifferent varieties of plumeria. And you know,

(50:47):
like I said, I've got somethat are just about to bloom right
now. I've looked around the neighborhood. Some are blooming, and then I've
got some that haven't even butted upyet. But which is me? I've
got the leaves but nothing happening.Yeah, so sometimes it has to do
with that. Uh. One ofthe one of the comments or questions that
I missed before, Lila was niceenough to repost, and she says wants

(51:13):
to know how to prepare her rosesfor the two weeks she's going to be
on vacation. Oh, this issomething John does very well. Yeah,
you have always He's always prepping forhis hire somebody or have a family member
water while you're gone. Yeah,and so far, the only thing that
really worked was having Tiger come outand set up a massive engagement. Is
just waters the whole yard. Yeah, but Lola doesn't say if they're in

(51:38):
the ground or in pots, gotwater more? If it's improper, Yeah,
you've got to send Brian an email. I was gonna water for John.
John gone, John's in down.Usually he's the one leaving. You
got to call John and have youYou know, when I'm watering way,
she's closer to Brian. Yeah.When I'm watering all my pots and I

(52:00):
think I got eight more to do, ten more than I think John,
Yeah, he's got fifteen hundred.I can be done in fifteen minutes.
Takes him the entire weekend. SoLila, if they're in the ground,
she's got it right. Water reallygood the day before you leave, and
just really soak them and then crossyour fingers and hope we don't have a

(52:22):
heat wave. But they should survivetwo weeks in the ground. Even if
you came back and the leaves wereoff, they would come. They would
come back, especially if they've beenin the ground for a while, you
know what I mean. And inpots, different story though, because you
can water really well and they're gonnadrain, and then they're gonna drain.
Yeah, two days later they couldbe yeah, yeah, I mean,

(52:45):
if anything, if you really wantedto work hard in a pot, you
put some maybe some moult over thetop of the soil. I was gonna
say, can you lessen the drainage? Can you can you like plug up
the hole. Well, I wasthinking about like, let's say, have
three holes plug up to us.Can you plug up two of them?
I mean, because you because youdon't you don't want obviously, you don't

(53:07):
want the roots to be sitting inwater something. Can you slow the process
down? John, if you didn'thave a lot, you could put one
in a bigger pot and just putsoil around it or mulch all the way
around the one pot. But yeah, two weeks is a long time in
the summer. Yeah, and Powand in Powe, you know, it

(53:30):
gets hot. And so we're goingto Texas in I think it's the first
of November. So I'm hoping they'regoing to be okay, you know while
I'm gone and Tiger we referred tothis a little bit, but Tiger's coming
out and uh the first part ofAugust and putting formal rose beds in the

(53:53):
back of my house. So that'llbe it'll be the first major planning of
rose is that I can do.Yeah, I mean I've been planning roses
and mixed borders. Yeah, butyou've been kind of like you're saying,
incorporating it. Yeah, this willbe a nice time of the year to
come out to Poway in the firstof Augustow. I mean, so I'm

(54:14):
thinking I'm thinking of like even evenworse. Oh yeah, in August,
people are dropping like flies. We'rethe We're pretty much the same temperature as
you, and we always have acool ocean breeze in the evening. And
I don't know if you get that, do you? No? No,

(54:35):
not really. I mean basically,I live in a better spot than you
are. You are you further westthan I am, so that would be
the key. I'm thirteen miles fromthe ocean. That's about right. Hey,
did Lilah say if they were inpots in the ground, because I
just thought if they're in pots?You said they're in ground. Yeah,
I was gonna say, if they'rein pots, moving them into the shade

(54:57):
also something. Yeah, I've donethat where I've grouped. I've grouped a
whole bunch of pots into the shade, watered them all real well, and
then just left them. So youknow. Sue said that she likes the
show. Thank you, Sue,And she said that we definitely made lemonade
out of lemon. She says,we're always entertaining. But that reminded me

(55:22):
about the roses you have because youhave orange orange juice, but you need
pink lemonade. Yes, I do, because both those were roses from Jack
Christensen, and you know he's kindof a breeder that people collect. Is
that an heirloom rose rose that Ican get or is that an auction row?

(55:43):
You can't get it anywhere? Yeah, it's like orange juice, got
it right, But if she likesto remind me of that sometimes, make
sure you take care of that becausethere are no more av you know,
I lost Green Planet and had toget it back from you. Yeah,
and it worked. Yeah, youhave another green planet now? Yeah?
Ice? Yeah? How green?Has it? Bloom? John? Yes?

(56:04):
Yeah? How green? How greenis your planet? Yeah? How
green is your planet? You know? Because sometimes they can be a little
lighter depending upon inland coastal it's greenerthan Mintula. Minchulla's kind of a lighter
green and that's another Jack Christiansen roseMinchula was he's all about the beverages.
Yea, yeah, really right.Well, we kind of had a series

(56:27):
Lemonade. A lot of people have, you know, series like that where
it just popped. I guess OrangeJulius's trademark. You couldn't even know Julius,
right, I like pan juice.Hey, guys, we're getting too
about that time. I'm just gettingwarm where we usually start to say goodbye.

(56:49):
But we're not really on any timeconstraints. So yeah, we just
want to make sure we answer all. Yeah, we want to get the
question answered for sure. I thinkwe I think we hit all the questions,
right, John, Well, wehad one more trying to find it
here. This was from Carolyn,and she wants to know if anybody else
in the audience is trying to encouragemonarch butterflies to propagate in their garden.

(57:10):
She said, her first butterfly ofthe season just flew off. And the
reason I wanted to bring that upis this is probably the time of year
where you're selling a lot of asclepius, right, Yeah, is that still
as big as seller as it wasa couple of years ago. Yes,
we've transitioned by not by any otheryou know. I know there's a lot

(57:32):
of beliefs out there when it comesto the monarch butterflies and the Esclepias that
you plant in which varieties, andby no means do we you know the
tropical milkweed. Are we like,oh, we don't buy that anymore.
But we've just found some really goodresources for some of the native varieties of
milkweed that we sell more of thatone, the narrow leaf milkweed, than

(57:52):
some of the tropical milk weed.But in my yard by itself, so
I have have the tropical milkweed,and I maybe have one, two,
three, four, five, six, seven, eight nine full size plants
that have just propagated by themselves throughoutmy yard. And you know, the

(58:14):
caterpillars and the marks love it.Propagated by themselves. That's another term for
invasive. It's true. And Ijust let it go. I just let
it happen because I'm like, eh, you know, no big deal.
If I don't want it, I'lljust pull it out. But I won't
put a rose back in there.But do you know what, I don't
know if I ever mentioned this toyou, but you are at the age

(58:36):
right now that if you got intoroses, you could be in twenty years,
maybe twenty five, one of theworld's leading authority on roses. Yeah,
it just would, yeah, exactly, But I don't know. We'll
see, I didn't start growing rosestill I was your age or maybe a

(59:00):
little bit older. I love yourcycle. I don't know your path of
landscape of plants, you know,to go from to go from house plants,
you know what I mean, likeyour whole series, and now you're
ending up here at roses. Youknow why John has roses because somebody asked
him, well, John, howmany roses do you grow? Yeah?

(59:20):
Because in your life. But thereason they asked me that was because I
was the rose by exactly. AndJohn's like, gee, none, I
have no roses. Fifteen hundred Isthat about right? Are we still at
fifteen hundred? No, you know, it's probably closer to I don't have
them all on my official list,which I need to update, but I
think it's probably closer to seventeen hundred. Seventeen hundred. Yeah, we're going

(59:45):
to see two thousand. I thinkby the time all is sudden done,
I think so all is said anddone, because I think, well,
you know, I've developed a relationshipnow with Sangerhausen in Germany, and after
your trip last summer. Yeah,and and I just got a note from
them this last within the last twoweeks, they sent me a list of

(01:00:06):
twenty roses that they lost, andthey're asking me for budwood for oh boy,
so I'm going to I think I'mgoing to try to send that to
him next week. And they saidended their email with, by the way,
anything you want from us, justlet us know, don't ask me
that. Well connections, right,Yeah, Well last year that didn't work
because it was a month before thecuttings got you got to me, and

(01:00:31):
everything was dried out and dead.But I was able to save three roses
from there. One Governor Alfred E. Smith bloomed twice and then died,
so that one I don't have,but I do have ebony and I do
have fear not. So that's tworoses that were not in the United States

(01:00:54):
that are now here, and hopefullyI'll have them both the next year's auction.
Again we caught up, did weanswer everybody? Well, let's see
why you want to get out ofhere. Oh no, I just want
to make sure we're on time,and you know, on on time for
what. Yeah, Veronica says,she likes my little game, little she
says, our gang. But thelittle Rascal series of roses. You know,

(01:01:16):
we were talking about Jack Christiansen andbuckwheat I lost. By the way,
if anyone has a Buckwheat rose,let me know. There was a
whole at the time that came out. It was the beginning of political correctness,
and somebody made a comment to methat you shouldn't name a rose after

(01:01:40):
buckwheat. We're not. I guessthey thought that the you know, the
old uh way that African Americans wereportrayed back then wasn't the best. You
know, the old Amos and Andyshows and revision is. Yeah. But

(01:02:01):
so I took that the heart.I said, I don't want to offend
anybody. So I actually contacted theNAACP and I said, you know,
here's what I'm doing. I toldhim, and the woman that got back
to me said, we would beoffended if you didn't see. That was
my thinking right there. When youhonor somebody, Yeah, she said,

(01:02:21):
why would you exclude an African AmericanAmerican member of the and a beloved character.
I might ask, Oh, yeah, he was one of the most
popular characters. This is back inthe thirties. Yeah, yeah, you
know, you're you're you're honoring somebodyby naming something after whatever it is,
be it a rose or whatever.But Anyway, when I lived on Pepper
Tree, I had one in theground, and I had this great gardener

(01:02:49):
from Guatemala. I think he toldme, I'm I'm moving back to Guatemala.
And this is after he worked forme for two years and his brotherhood
worked for me for three years beforethat, and they just did a great
job. And and I really likedboth of them. The last day that
he left, you know, hewould always come, you know, I
would pay him. The last day, he dug it out and threw it

(01:03:12):
away in the trash and like,why why would you do that? Why
would you dig something up that's alive. Yeah, I have no idea.
Did he have any history of therose, knowing it or anything. He
was like, I don't like this. I don't like this name. I
don't know. Maybe he was leavingand he was trying to get you know,
finished, just there's no reason.I don't know. But anyway,

(01:03:36):
I haven't been able to find it. I did talk to one person who
had it, but that was areally sad story at Kentucky to you off
the arabout. But now I don'tknow anyone that has it. But if
anyone does, I would like toget one back. Okay, so what
do you say. We did awork around today. Yeah, we'll be
back next week. Yes, nextweek. I'll have Clay see if he

(01:04:00):
can join us again next week.He was very nice, he said,
no problem. I said, you'reyour top of our list, your priority.
We'll get back to you, hopefullynext week. He says, I'm
available. He was funny. Hesays, I'm available all day to day.
Call me at three o'clock. I'mhappy to do something. He's a
good guy. So we'll get thatfixed. Monday morning. I'll be knocking.
Well. The good thing is seveno'clock. The first engineer gets in
and he's the one I think thatwas in here missing around. He's a

(01:04:21):
good guy. I don't want tosay disparaging things. We'll get this all
fixed up. We'll get Clay backon the air. It'll be back to
normal next week, whatever normal isfor this show. Yeah all right,
Well, if we do a normalshow, then we'll need a vacation.
Oh yeah, more on that comingup. Thank you so much for tuning
in. Thank you for putting upwith all the technical problems, the gaffs,

(01:04:43):
all the issues. As we kickthings off this morning. We love
you. We appreciate you. Havea great weekend, a good week,
be safe, and we'll do itagain next week right here on Guard in
America. Brian Maine, John Begnasco, Tiger Pella, Fox, Take care,

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