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Y'all ready for this, because Iknow we are. Good morning, good
afternoon, good mid day to you, Depending upon when and how you're listening,
it is guarding America. We areback on the air. Tiger's smiling.
Either he's smiling about something else,or smiling about me or John or
somebody. Yeah, John is backfrom Hawaii. It's got to be a
good show today. What's going on? Tiger? We good? I am
great. I'm just double checking makingsure the computer's running this morning. My
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audio is running this morning. Whenyou look around like to make sure that
the camera's going. We're gonna reallymess up John when he comes in next
week too, because we're all wearingbasically the same colored sweatshirt, and that's
the way he determines what show whichshow. Before the show, John says,
why aren't you wearing the same thing? Oh? I see it's not
the not today's show yet, it'sa previous show. Welcome back, and
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see here you guys always blame mefor doing Nobody heard that that feedback on
the phone. I'm much quicker toturn it off. We're like a bunch
of giddy girls this morning. HelloJohn, welcome back from good to be
there the fiftieth state, forty ninthstate. Do you know there were only
the Alaska Hawaii thing I forget.One was fifty nine, one was sixty.
Yeah, Hawaii was fifty fifty.Okay, Hawaii was uh or Hawaii
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Alaska was forty nine. But youknow there were only two states out of
the fifty that used to be countriesindependent countries. Do you know what they
are? Boy? You know what? Well? Hold on, hold on?
That were countries because see the firstthing that comes to mind, I'm
not sure that's correct. So therewere states that used to be countries.
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My new states used to be countries, independent countries. Okay, Texas because
we bought Texas, still thinks theyare. We bought Alaska from the Russians.
That was a territory, right,so I'm omitting here right, that
was never a country. Alaska wasnever a country. And then Tiger got
it right. So obviously Hawaii Hawaii, right because they used to have a
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king and a queen, yep andTexas EXAs. Yeah, did we talk
about this also? I found itso interesting when I was there last Texas
exactly the Republic of Texas. Youknow, when we went on one of
our tours. It was the tourwe went to England. There was a
post tour to Paris and you didn'tgo, didn't went, but we went
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and we saw the Texas consulate inParis. In Paris, they still had
it there. It had the lonestar. They're waiting, they're still waiting
for their comeback. Well, Francewas the first person to recognize the independence
of Texas. Really yeah, becauseat the time they were having i think
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it was problems with Spain and theysaid, yeah, this will get them.
We're going to recognize Yas Texas.Hawaii that wasn't very long. I
mean Hawaii was comry much longer.Yep. Yeah, one of them,
and then was after that, buthe was the surf guy, but they
thought he was king at that time. Last regent was Queen Lidley o Kalani.
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But you know it was interesting aboutHawaii, right, is that all
their population came from, you know, in all those other areas. And
they would take those boats out toHawaii. Sometimes they would go back and
then come back and forth. Somepeople would stay and it's amazing how they
survived those tricks right on those boats, these little canoe kind Yes, yes,
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and then they would go back andforth, not just like like it's
one thing to like take a boat, find someplace land, never go home
again, but it's another thing toactually be able to go back, especially
since Hawaii's in the middle of nowherenowhere right if you miss it by just
a little bit. One of themost remote, not the most, but
one of the most. I thinkthe most remote is in the Atlantic.
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Well, there's another one that's offMidway. There's one that's off South America
too west. You know I usedto work with I don't know if you
knew. Did you ever meet Carolat plug Connection? I can't remember.
Not that stands out of my mind. I might have met her, Okay,
anyway, she was born on Midwayor lived on Midway? Really yeah,
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And now now you can't go toMidway, I don't believe. And
then there's Guam. And then there'syour favorite John Easter Island. Speaking of
Guam, there's also a Christmas IslandChristmas Island as well. Yeah. And
then there's a tolls. I lovea tolls. Do you remember the Rocky
and Garden America, The Rocky andbow Winkle, a toll that they went
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to, Oh, what was it. It was called because there's bikini.
There's a tall bikini, a tollwhich they did all the atomic testing,
right, but there's on Rocky andBullwinkle is no bikini at all. Listeners
and our viewers that this has becomea history podcast, the history radio show
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to be treated. But I don't. I've seen how you handled gophers.
I don't know if you. Idon't blame you, but I'm not sure
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that. When I was in Hawaii, I got to do one one of
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the items on my bucket list,and it was visit the green Sand beach.
You know, there's only four greensand beaches in the world, and
one is in Hawaii, the othersin Guam, the Galopagus Islands, and
Norway, which seems kind of odd. Did you bring some samples to share?
I brought. I brought the sandis green, kind of an olive
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green color because it's a semi preciousstone called olivine, and so I brought
for showing to I can't it looksgold, but it is green. It
is, well, it's an olivegreen. Yeah, yeah, there's shades
of green. There, yeah,which is cool. And and look at
all the gold in there. You'regoing to be rich. Well, you
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know it was od is that thatI wanted to do this, and you
know my wife can't take long hikes. It's a six mile hike to the
beach, just the one way justso there, one way talking right,
But there's some local Hawaiians with fourwheel drives that for twenty dollars will drive
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you there. That's perfect. Whata great gig that is, That's what
I thought. Yeah, so,uh, we drove there and then when
you get there to the cliff,it's kind of walking down the cliffs here
at Tory Pines. Okay, youknow it's a little trail going to the
beach, right, but when youget down there, the whole beach is
Olivine's and it seems soft. Thesand seems when you walk on the beach.
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Did it did it feel because sometimesyou know when you walk on those
green green beaches they like the blacksand beach and they actually your feet.
Yeah, but this seems soft,was it? Yes? Nice? Yeah?
So anyway, we had a goodtime and I was really happy to
be able to do that. Diddid they have did this beach. Was
it more like a cove where it'sit was wet sand or did they have
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like a dry section, you know, like when you go to Mission Beach,
there's dry sand and then wet sand. Right, Was this all wet
or was it dry? Also?It was dry towards the top because it
did slope down, But I alwayssay most of it was wet, like
maybe seventy percent. I just didn'tknow if it changed. You know,
sometimes depending on how a beach is, you know, made up of if
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the wet sand is made up ofdifferent sand and then the upper parts are
more dirty. There's some beaches inthe world where the sand is black,
right beaches. Yeah, we wentto black sand beach Rice in Hawaii.
They're a lot more common because it'svolcanic rock. Right. This also comes
from when this is from Mauna Loa. When it erupted, it went down
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and hit water, and so youhad an explosion right by the ocean,
and then after hundreds and maybe eventhousands of years of the waves coming up
washing away the volcanic part of it. Olivine is a mineral that's heavier than
sand, So that got I've gotleft behind so so much for the geology.
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I wonder what plants specifically grow inOlivine. You know, there was
nothing there. A volcanic soil isusually very good in nutrients, very rich
for them. I'm not talking aboutthe sand, but just in general.
Well, it drains really well.I'll give it that. Hey, we've
got about a minute to the firstbreak. I know, we want to
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right, Brian, the quote isfrom Gertrude Wister, and she said,
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of proportion to their size. Doyou know anybody right now in your life
named Gertrude. Gertrude, I don't, Gertrude Jekyl. Yeah, that's a
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about coast. But it's not ourfault though, because we told you wait
last year. Sign up. Yeah, but there is a wait list,
so pretty much through February. There'spotential for people that might you know,
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be able to go on the trip. Lots of fun stuff is planned.
We've talked about the trip a numberof times. Who doesn't want to wrestle
a wild Cayman? Come on?Yeah, just to get to the hotel,
you have to cross this river andwrest Wild's the thing about that.
It's not a bridge. It's aseries of alligators that are lined up across
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the river and you have to tiptoeand step across them. Their crocodiles there.
Yes, yes, you'll be seeingthem. Yes, oh yes,
there's a little we'll be you've beenlike a threat. It's kind of a
canoe river tour. It's it's yeah, I hear, it's a three hour
tour. That's not good. Youknow what happened to them? Yeah?
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But but yeah, so you know, for for those of you that ever
it's are interested in the cosa Ricatrip. Still you can still sign up
be on the wait list. Youknow there is potential, but we are
officially sold out. We're excited togo with the people that have signed up.
Absolutely, lots of fun stuff planned. Still, well not there's two
of them we're not that excited about. Well, hopefully they're not listening.
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There was three. And go toour website Guardamerica dot com. Yeah,
all the itineraries there. Plus whileyou're there, and there's a lot of
other stuff to check out. Right, shame on you if you haven't been
to our website in a while ornever have been. You know, I've
been busy, you have You're theexception. Okay, Well, I want
to get to a couple of questions. All right. Another one is John,
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did you take pictures of I did? In his mind? No,
I also have some on my phonehere. I don't know. Yeah,
why don't you hold the phone afterthe camera? That'll work? Well,
I thought, Tiger does that.We'll do our best to somehow. Yeah,
we'll get some weber John and thenput it posted. We will do
that now, Carla, I wantto know if I went to Volcanoes National
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Park. Thank you for having yourphone turned on. Yes, and not
only did we go uh while wewere there, my wife said, this
is so intriguing, you should includeit in your book. You know I'm
writing, oh yeah, a fictionalbook, and so I did. I
got a chapter in that include seBut uh, the day we were there,
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they had had they I think theysaid, six earthquakes, so they
were thinking that the volcano was goingto wrap killaway. I think it was,
but we did. It was raining, so maybe not as nice as
it could have been, but wedid get to feel the uh, the
steam vents, and we did getto go into a lava tube. How
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did that smell? You know?I maybe it's just me because don't have
a good smeller. You're what doyou call that? Ole factory challenged?
Either that or I just can't smellthat good anywhere. But anyway, I
you know, I asked Shannon andJesse my son who was with us too,
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and they said they didn't smell anysulfur. Right, okay, right?
Did I tell you that when wewent to the Big Island, we
went to the volcano. We wentto the volcano, and we arrived there
and everybody's leaving, rangers, public, everybody and they had these little sulfur
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meters that all the rangers wear andall of them are blaring really and I'm
like, oh wow, this notthis last time. No, no,
no, this was years ago.And I'm like, oh wow, like
you know, that's crazy. Andthey're like, yeah, so we got
it, we're evacuating the area,blah blah blah blah. I'm like,
oh, does that happen often?Guys like no, it's the first time
it's ever happened. Like what weshould go? Like, I don't know
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what that means, but we shouldgo. Yeah. So it's kind of
crazy, but it's like, youknow, if you see a bunch of
people running away for a volcano,you should probably probably go out join the
group. Exactly did you finish yourthought? John? Which one? Let's
see? Yeah, Okay, Iwasn't twenty seconds ago. There's no way
I can there, Okay, soya, I was gonna mention Tanya and Yahn
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Jose wants to know if your nurseryis okay? Oh, the ring totally
fine, totally fine. The nursingtrain did you get? You know,
I don't have a rain meter outthere, but I mean San Diego,
what did we get four inches duringthis last one. Well I can tell
you this last Saturday. Now,how could you get on get four if
I got sixteen you get in thislast storm or from the beginning of the
season. No, No, fromthis week, the week that I went
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to Hawaii, Yeah, which wastwo weeks ago, right, yeah,
so from that week till yesterday wasfourteen inches. Oh my gosh. No,
I don't know. I don't know. Maybe we did get more.
We drained our fountain last Saturday becauseit was a sunny day, completely drained
it. It's overflowing, full andthat's about that's a good six seven eight
inches, okay, and it's fullflow, overflowing. Yeah. So no,
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I mean, I don't know whatthe rainfall totals are. As far
as the nursery, we're good.Yeah, because the nursery is located on
a canyon. So then I thingabout it is everything everything just flows right
through the nursery. Heirloom Roses putI think I forwarded you guys a copy
of it. Right, the airlinessaw the Roses put out a newsletter and
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your granddaughter's mentioned, and well she'smentioned because I named de Rose right right
right, Yeah, So uh,Gina and Idaho is saying that they've got
the rose on sale and it goes, it lives up to its name.
She's so sweet. I love thathorrible When are we going to get a
tiger and I get a rose namedafter us? How many years? When
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he finds it together? When hefinds a black hard rose thorny, Yeah,
one that nobody wants, one thatgoes to Brian Maine. Rose sells
for five dollars at the auction becausethat was the starting bill. I might
have some you know, I toldyou I potted up one hundred seedlings and
including some Manhattan Blue crosses that uh, to see what those would happen.
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You'll see what you were missing,tiger. Yeah. But anyway, uh,
this spring there I might have someroses that can be named. It's
going to be the year. Huhyeah, yeah, I have is it
a sports team? This is theyear they're going to make it. Two
step granddaughters that I had promised toname roses after years ago, about three
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or two or three years ago,so I have to do that. And
then uh, Joel, our buddyJoel, you know, his wife passed
away a couple of years ago andpromised him, promised to name one after
her bad segue. But for thoseof you that do follow the way to
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the break nursery, our longtime managerat the nursery, her name was Michelle
I passed away this week. Wasa heart attack. Was unexpected. I've
met her. She was young,right, Yeah, I mean, you
know, somewhere between at least comparedto me, well, somewhere between my
parents' age and my age. Likeas far as it was not not you
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know, and not expected, no, no precondition of it, you know,
kind of a thing, just kindof a shock, so that you
know, everybody, Yeah, nurI recaller is being really knowledgeable. Yes,
wonderful woman. Yeah. And ifshe'd been there how long over six
seven years? Yeah, Okay,we're gonna take a break on that note,
come back. Our next segment's alonger segment, one of our longest
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ones. John, this is oneof your favorite segments coming up. Really
want to remind people of that.Far Those on Facebook, Yeah, we'll
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located in beautiful San Diego, California. Stay with us. Garden America continues.
We continue, Brian Main, JohnMagnascar, Tiger Pella, Fox,
the A team is here. Yourgarden buddies, and again, whatever's on
your mind. We are the gueststoday. You get a history question,
I'm sure we can tackle that.But do we are talking gardening, landscaping,
talking roses. John's gonna name rosesafter Tiger and I once he filters
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through his family, personal family comesfirst, g understand has already got the
request for a Garden America rose aswell. Well, you know now that
we're talking about naming roses, ourbuddies at Heirloom Roses are going to have
a rose naming excuse me, rosenaming contest, and I think we need
to maybe get them on the show. We find out a little under the
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weather. Sorry no, but youmade it in so if if every time
I come up with the name,John's like, no, I think that
I don't think you've taken one ofyours. No, No, he had
a really good one. Yeah,yeah, but no. What I'm saying
is John pretty much knows most,if not all, the roses, so
he'll say, no, that wouldtaken right. Scent of a woman?
That was your best name ever.But then you know, like, what
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did Solomon say? There's nothing newunder this the sun? Rightly? And
someone in Europe named one. Theycalled it scent of woman, So that's
not really as good as sense.But it's too close to half muster if
somebody were to say, no,you can't have that. Yeah, Carla
has a question for you, John, and she's speaking of the kendomrose.
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She says, hers has a habitof a small climber. Is that typical?
It's in a pot. It's notreally a small climber, but it
does put out arching branches, soif you had it in a pot,
it might look like a climber,so you could grow it as if you
staked it up, you could growit as a pillar rose. Maybe Billy
Barty was a small climber. Okay, I could have said Mickey Rooney,
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but I thought it Billy Barty issmaller than Mickey Roon. No, that's
why I went to Billy Barty,who was smaller Mickey Rooney or Danny DeVito.
Oh, Danny DeVito really, OhDanny DeVito is like, are you
okay? It was like, youknow what it was like when I saw
Paul Simon and concert and I wasin the front row, and I thought,
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goodness, my gosh, are yougonna be okay? Well, I
mean so little. Well, Itold you that I met both Paul and
our Garfunkle when I was in collegeUniversity of Michigan, and seeing them,
I always thought our Garfuncle was reallytall. Our Funcal looked like he was
six feet tall. Yeah, buthe was actually shorter than me. So
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that shows you how short Paul.Both really nice guys, excellent And you
said they had nice soft hands whenyou shook their hands. Well they that
surprised me, but I guess becauseall he did was play guitar and you
know, and not working out inthe garden. No, but his fingers
would probably have callouses from playing theguitar. Yeah, the hands seemed a
little effeminate to me. Okay,So back to the gardening show here,
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Sue wrote that in Allied Gardens theygot five and a half inches of rain.
Five I've got five point eight onmine. What you'res different than mine?
Well, I think different areas ofthe county. No, we're reading
the same comment. Oh sorry,she wrote, oops five eight. Yeah,
Monday through Friday? When should Iplants sunflowers? Looking forward to Costa
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Rica sunflowers until the weather warms up? Yeah, you probably wait till March.
Yeah, probably. Uh, let'ssee San Diego. Maybe could you
start them in seed now? Orwell you could, but why right?
Whatever it is? You know,sometimes you start seeds before you would plant
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a plant, so yeah, butusually don't do that with things that germany
rather quickly, things like corn,peas beans. If you start those squash,
if you start them indoors and thenmove them outdoors, you've got that
transition period which is rough on them, and they don't get as big as
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they would if you put the seedsdirectly in the ground. So usually you
want the sunflowers to be tall andyou and you as like you say,
they germinate so right quickly and soeasily that you can just throw those out
there if you have a bird feedor you're gonna have sunflowers coming up up
below, right. They scare me? What sunflowers? Big face, big
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old Oh I planted a slope withprobably two packages of seeds of sunflowers a
couple of years ago, and itwas so cool that those green parrots that
we have that flock of sure SanDiego, they came to the yard one
day just to feed on all ofthem. It was really cool to watch.
They're cool plants. They look reallyI mean, but they're so big.
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I mean, you know when itbecomeing to fruition. Yes, Well,
now there's a lot of different types. There's florest types that are sprays,
and then there's smaller flowers, andthen there's giant ones. There's one
one that gets to be I can'tremember the variety right now, but it
gets to be like eighteen to twentyfeet tall. My goodness. I like
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the ones that grow in the biggerthat's bigger than the mammoth one, right,
the mammoth sunflowers is bigger than that. Yeah, And that's the big
one. This one I think iscalled it mightn't be. One of our
listeners knows, but I think it'scalled American something already salted. There's the
one called the ranch dressing flavoring onthem, I do. They grow that
way and they're pre salted. Ilove that it saves a lot of time
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and energy. I'm surprised that theMajor League Baseball doesn't have their own sunflower
garden. Someone mentioned that they havetheir daffodils are blooming, and then somebody
said mine too, right, andthen Leonora also mentioned her irises. My
paper whites are all starting to bloomright now too. It's really cool and
you liked, right, it isbecause I think it's been so Oh were
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these new? No, no,the other ones that have been in the
ground, because normally they bloom inOctober. Yeah, I don't know the
later really early look at it,right, but but you know, this
is one of those one of thoseplants also that people either like or hate
the fragrance, right, you know, paper whites, I don't remember.
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I got what I'm trying to think. If I've ever smelled one, it's
did you? Did you bring anyin? Probably I'll bring some in next
week. We talked about this beforethough, Yeah, there's different different well
there's different varieties and there's one calledZeVA that and there's been some new varieties
since then. But this is goback twenty years ago. There was ZeVA
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and Galilee and Galilee had a reallygood fragrance that everybody. I never met
anybody that didn't like it. ButZeVA was to some people kind of nauseating.
But that's the one, the onlyone you could buy because box stores
were able to buy those a pennyor two pennies cheaper than the other one.
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And when you're selling hundreds of thousands, it penny adds up. Yeah,
let's see, Lenora. Do yousee her question? When can I
put my snapdragon cycleman in cilantro?Seeds down too early for cilantro, unless
that's something you could start indoors,right, yeah, and keep indoors.
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Yeah right, have it right there, ready to go. I was growing
those. I was growing cilantro inthe veggie pod before you came and picked
it up. Yeah, really good. Cilantro's great for container eyes or keep
close by you because out there.I don't like about cilantra. It bolts
the flavor. See that's another thing. No, either you do or you
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don't like it. I love it. I can't tolerate it. Even before
I had taste problems, I couldnot eat cilantra. Can you not tolerate
it? Or do you just notput up with it? Both, okay
both. Do you still have thatkind of gag reflex to some foods?
Oh yeah, that you developed whenyou hit your head. Yeah, yeah,
absolutely. Oh man, that's don'tyou see him so far anything in
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the Onion family any Eliams right whenhe walks into the studio. No,
you're kind of gagging. And coffeenext next, next week, let's enjoin
some like cilantro and carnates out ofburritos. You know, my wife Dana
the same thing when it comes touh, caraway seeds, rye bread.
Oh, I have the same thingwith those. Yeah, really just oh
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yeah really I thought it was ryefor a while, but it's not right.
Something in her childhood and so tothis day it's really and I love
it. I'm making toasts and Idon't I don't think I and and I'm
not trying to you know, bragor any like, but I just yea
go ahead. But I just don'tthink that there's any food that I have
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that reaction to. Any food that'sa food, well, nothing makes me
gag, but I don't. There'sthings I don't like, yeah, but
I just nothing that makes me like, oh I can't eat that. How
about liver, I mean little onions, raw lover. What about raw lover?
What about brains or tongue? Ihave had both of those and it's
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definitely not I didn't gag because Imean, you know, if you really
think about when you eat those foods, right, they're prepared in a way
for a meal, Like I'm notjust eating that, you know what.
I've had a few times and Ithought, you know what, I'm gonna
just take a chance and try it. And I loved it, but it
had a lot to do with howit was prepared. Snails ask gargo,
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butter and garlic and onions. Iprobably couldn't need them now because of the
garlic, but I like, thesewere decolate snails. I was surprised.
Oh my gosh, Ronica says,Cilantro smells like gasoline. You know what
what every let me tell you everyone, every Italian has a horror story about
how they went to buy Italian parsleyand by mistake. I like where we're
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minutes after John for BIS Talk RadioFacebook Live. Doesn't matter, we keep
one long flow going. It's aflow. John. Hey Tiger pointed out
during the break we didn't finish Leonor'squestion. She wanted to know if she
I believe plants. She was talkingabout whether she could put in snap dragons
(30:22):
or Cycloman now. And yeah,they need to go and when the weather's
cool because the heat they don't like. And a lot and a lot of
people buy Cyclom and his little giftplants and have him indoors and they don't
last very long indoors. They likeit, you know. If yeah,
(30:45):
if you are going to keep themindoors, put them out overnight, leave
them outside overnight. That'll help,you know. What's funny. But Ronica's
comment is I love the smell ofgasoline, you know, so does my
wife. I do. Uh.When we lived in Michigan, used to
love going to my parents' house becausewe would go in through the garage and
(31:06):
she could smell the guess, yeah, something about it just puts his face
down right there as he's pumping areal vapor arrestor a really stupid thing I
did in junior high, ninth grade. I was working in stagecraft, you
know, building for the different playsthat were put on and stagecraft stuff.
(31:26):
And there was a janitorial closet rightacross the hallway and they kept all the
supplies in there, and there wassomething that smelled really good. It was
kind of a bleachy smell. SoI opened up this this one bottle and
that was it, and I putmy nose in there and took a big
whiff. I fell right back ontothe ground. It just literally knocked me
over. What was it kind ofa kind of a clean, bleachy thing
(31:47):
that kind of had a nice aromafrom afar. So I thought, why
not stick your nose in there andget a good whiff, which I did
and lost about a thousand brains.I've never done noes. Remember when I
was in junior high, my cousinand I and some of our friends would
always play with different chemicals and wemixed something together that produced that type of
(32:13):
reaction, and I was able tolook up what we had created later on
and it said causes permanent lung damage. Really yeah, and you took a
big whiff of it. Yeah yeah, it almost knocked me out, like
you're talking about why, I'm rightback on, yeah, right back on
my on the on the floor.Almost hit my head. And you know
how ammonia how retentive I am soall my life. I keep thinking,
(32:38):
you know, I've got lung damage, can't breathe have lung damage from that
one time, from that one timePaula said it was ammonia. Ammonia does
have an interesting Yeah, you knowwhat it does, knock you out?
Yeah yeah, so ye, howsmarter listeners and viewers are what we don't
know. They fill in the gaps. Everyone's got a gap, right,
(32:59):
yeah. They fill the gap forus whenever we can't remember something or figure
it out. North County Fair agood shopping center. Yeah, they used
to have a gap. I don'tknow if they do it anymore, John,
you can stop shopping it forever.Twenty one. I just wanted to
mention that when I was in Hawaii, it was interesting to be to go
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to the National Botanic Garden over there, huh, because they had their plants
arranged by families and genera. Soit was kind of cool to walk through
all the heliconias and the gingers.But then a lot of the house plants
we see that we're too cold forin San Diego. Klithias are good house
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plants, but you can't really keepthem outdoors, and prayer plants. But
to see maybe twenty or thirty kindsused as groundcovers and all grouped together was
really cool. Did you say we'retoo cold and California to grow something?
Oh? Yeah, well just outsidetropicals. That's why we're called subtropical.
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Ah, like a sub marine asopposed to just a marine. Like that,
one or two things are going throughhis mind. He's really thinking about
that, or what an idiot?Yeah, no, there's two things.
There's one or two things going throughhis mind. He's thinking what an idiot?
Or he's trying to get some clevercomeback. He's not really thinking about
(34:30):
it. You know, you guysshould know by now. I don't think
about clever comebacks. They it justcomes out and it's either a hit or
a miss. Yeah, And unfortunatelyfor Facebook we don't have a seven second
delay dump button. Yeah. Oh, now see for the for the network
bistalk. When I go back andand edit, you can, oh,
(34:51):
I can pull it out and yeah, in fact, I've done that before
where there was like maybe ten secondsof something like why did we talk about
you know, we got a lotof elections coming up in politics and stuff,
and all I do is just denyI ever said it, even if
they say, well we heard it. It's right there on Facebook. I
got a buddy mine that was andI went to junior high high school with
who says that explains a lot backin those days. And I think he's
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referring to the story I told aboutsniffing sniffing whatever. You didn't even know
what it was. No, Ijust know it smelled good. Yeah,
exactly. We go way back fiftysome odd years. Did you see any
new plants when you were at thebotanical garden that oh yeah, yeah to
you. There was some heliconias thata rattlesnake heliconia that let's see if I
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can show you the picture and notlose my place on face. Kiliconias are
probably one of the most stand outplants in Hawaii because they're so unique looking
and different than what other people havegrowing. You know, wherever they are
a lot of people they come obviouslyfrom the Midwest, and in the East
Coast they don't have those at all. So isn't that Alicia, Oh wow,
(36:02):
that is it looks like a rattlesnakeyea, let's see, let's be
really good rattlesnake tail. Just wentoh yeah, oh there you can hold
it. But is it? AmI holding up correctly? Angle? Angle
a little more to your left?That keep going, yeah, there you
go, there you go. Butuh, you know that you don't see
(36:23):
those and you don't see those ashouse plants because they don't really make good
house plants. So it's very regionalin the sense of you know, where
they grow, you'll see them,but you don't see them outside of that.
Also, the height some some ofthem really surprised me. Like usually
you think of gingers and things likebeing five six feet max max. These
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were like twenty feet tall, wow, some of them and standing up on
their own. Yeah, because they'rekind of floppy too. Yeah, when
you see kind of arched over,you know, when you see the plant
like five to six feet it kindof like looks like, oh, that'll
just blow over. But you knowthose are really neat colors too. That
was a what would you call thata peach? Peachy kind of a it's
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kind of a peachy color. Peachygrow here. No, we'll not grow
here. A lot of gingers growhere, but almost no heliconias. There
is that helicone a lot of spasawhich will grow here and does well,
but the flowers not as spectacular asyou get a lobster claw. And why
(37:30):
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We are back Facebook Live. John. I know you're excited about the second
hour for biz Talk. Hey,by the way, I was thinking of
our listeners and lancing because they're notplanning anything right now, right right?
(38:12):
Rub it in. Well, thereason I bring it up is because we
have a spath of phylum in ourhouse. Shannon's in charge of all the
house plants. That just had Ithink it was like nine blossoms on it.
But when we were in Hawaii,I saw this one growing in the
ground that was had variegated foliage,and so I looked up online. I
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don't know if I can put thatup there. Yeah, try it again,
John, that's good. We'll getthe camera on that. Okay.
So there's a lot with variegated leaves, so when they're not in bloom,
they still look good. And Iwas surprised to see online that there's maybe
five or six variegated varieties of spathof beautiful. Yeah, I really like
(38:58):
it. Peace Lily. That isa common name, peacefully. Wonder where
I got that name from. Yeah, I'm working on getting that coin.
Yeah, we're to figure that out. Paula and Lenor mentioned that they have
trouble with ginger and any suggestion,So you know ginger here in southern California,
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can be difficult to grow. There'sa few varieties that that you can
grow here, kind of more ornamentalvarieties. There's you know which one,
I don't even know if they Iguess it's not a ginger, but cardimen
kind of grows like a ginger plant. That one's very hardy if you if
you just want the foliage and thelook of it. But a lot of
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those ones with a flower, they'rethey're kind of tough to grow. You
have to have a really mild area. So I would even say, you
know, East County, San Diegocan't grow them very well. They don't
like a dry heat. Yeah,so like you're saying East County in the
summer, you're gonna ge at neara hundred and it's dry, so so
that's not good for them. Alongthe coast they do much better, but
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they're red ginger does okay. Shellginger is a pretty common one. In
white ginger, yeah, Kahili gingeris the white ginger. Kahili is the
it's white, but it's got kindof a yellowish cast to it. Good
fragrance. And then there's those thoselittle dwarf ones, you know, like
(40:30):
what's that pink one from Thailand called. Do you know the ones I'm talking
about? They're only like knee high? Uh, they're kir Kuma's Kakuma,
Kirkuma, Kirkuma. Maybe it's Kukuma. I don't know the last time you
had a knee high grape? Grapestrawberry? I remember grape. Yeah,
(40:57):
it's an old soda. Oh itis. Oh, it's like some of
the old rupiers that no longer exist. You always used to drink yours on
the fourth of July. You waitedtill now you bring that out. No
knee Well, you're not from theMidwest. No, I'm from right here,
(41:20):
right. But the saying in theMidwest is the hydro a grasshopper.
No, the when you plant yourcorn, it needs to be in order
to have a good crap, itneeds to be knee high by the fourth
of July. Oh oh, okay, so you've never heard that. You
didn't get what I said. That'swhy I was telling you. I really
don't think of these things before Isay them. But what if you're like
(41:40):
six eight, six nine or fivetwo? Does the same thing apply the
distance between your foot the ground andyour knee? Yeah, those really tall
farmers, which is we're plagued tonever have a good year because they can
never get it of. You know, there aren't any sport. It's teams
named after farmers that I'm aware of. You don't hear the Detroit farmers,
(42:06):
don't, do you? Minneapolis farmersor the cattle wrestlers. Oh so,
anyway, I think farmers are relativelythe same I anyway, you know,
Tanya, you're correct. Didn't Radarand Mash drink knee highs? Oh?
Good? Yeah, there was referenceto that in Mash. Really that's very
good, Tanya. I think she'sright. Yeah, and it would have
(42:29):
been popular back then, in theearly fifties during the Korean War. Yeah,
you know, there was a reallypopular soda brand. I was going
to say pop, because did youknow that tiger that some people say pop
In the Midwest, nobody says sodabecause soda is something that you have ice
(42:51):
cream in Okay, ice cream withice cream soda? Right, But uh,
soft drinks are called pop. Youknow, it's so and then some
parts of the country they call itcoke. Yeah, just a generic about
like I'll have a coke, Okay, what kind do you want? I'll
have grape? I remember years agoat Jack in a box ordering a coke.
(43:14):
She goes, we don't have cokes. I go, what do you
have? We have Jack Cola?Okay, give me a Jack Cola.
But you're right. So it's likeKleenex. That's a brand name, right,
people say, give me a cleanhan me a Kleenex. Give me
a Kleenex, which shows good branding. Right. Yeah, I was gonna
make a point. I forgot whatit was. You were talking about.
Soda pop? How about chapsticks?Oh yeah, the other one in Detroit.
(43:37):
There's a really famous brand of sodacalled Fago. Never heard of it,
never heard of it, right,but they had, they had.
I think their most famous one wascalled rock and Rye. You don't see
it anymore. A lot of thingsyou don't see. There's a there's several
(43:58):
YouTube channels that cover the same thing, you know, like a look back
in time or you know, reminiscingand all the things that we used to
drink and enjoy that no longer exist. Products that came out were good for
two or three years, then disappearedbecause nobody bought the product. I couldn't
find any ipana toothpaste. I rememberthat, you remember the brush of brush
and Brussia used the new ipana.I remember wandy for your teeth. I
(44:22):
wondered where the yellow went teeth withpepsi. Pepsiden's still out there though,
think Soay Uh, John, wehave a question. Maybe you can help
out with this. Back to gardeningladies. What about dick Orrisandra thrice sefolia
or blue ginger? Oh? Thatcarsandra is it has to be grown in
(44:45):
the shade. Uh, and itwill grow here, but does need to
be in the shade, And againdoesn't really he's and it's kind of kind
of a weak grower. I thinkI've never had I I grew some on
a tree in Fallbrook pepper tree atmy old house, but never did really
(45:06):
well. But it did blow.Yeah, I got an orchid question?
Oh yes, And Leonora says oneof my tomato plants has one branch with
four flowers, so her tomatoes arestarting. Orchid question. I rescued a
couple of them and left them atthe curb of my neighborhood. I inadvertently
(45:27):
left them in too much sun,and the leaves burned and have rotted so
much for the rescue, my rescue, the roots still look good. Any
chance they come back. She didn'twrite the variety of orchid, You know
what I mean, maybe Faalian oppositesmoth orchids, since that's the most maybe
common one out there. If you'regonna be rescuing them, well, if
(45:50):
you've got those air roots, youhave to go back to the center part
where they're coming from. If thatis rotted out, they're not going to
come back. But even if theleaves are off, if that's still green,
there's a good chance. And thatreminds me. Have you ever been
to the International Orchid Show in SantaBarbara? No, we need to make
(46:12):
a trip ago it May. Ithink May eighth, ninth, and tenth,
which Mother's Day weekend. It's Friday, Saturday, Sunday, so Sunday
might be Mother's Day. Yeah,it's possible, but I was thinking maybe
we go up there Friday. Youwant to go, Yeah, take the
day off. Well, probably spendmoney though this thing is you use I
(46:34):
mean yeah, when you I meanbut I mean like buying, but like
you're gonna come back broke, Wellyou're not. You're not able to go
to the Green Sand Beach, soyou should go to the Orchid Show.
Go to the orchid Show. Imean it is. It's unbelievable. You
can look it up online, theSanta Barbara Orchid Show, and there's hundreds
and hundreds of vendors. It's ifpeople come from all over the world.
(46:58):
Just take a look at it.I think it's only four hours away from
us, That's what I was thinking. That's why I want to go with
one of you guys, or bothyou guys, so that we can share
the driving. And by sharing thedriving, Tiger knows what that means.
But I'll drive right. I don'twant to pull over. I want to
change seats while we're driving. Oh, that'll be fun. Good luck.
Well, I'll be in the back. I don't care what you guys do.
(47:21):
I'll be sleeping in the back.Do you start it with grocery store
tubers ginger? That is, that'sedible ginger, and you can if you
want to grow it edible ginger.But the flower of edible ginger is nothing
to nothing to shake it. Yeah. Yeah, The flower in the edible
ginger is not kind of like thecardiman like I had mentioned, like great
(47:44):
great plant, hardy, tough,looks cool, smells wonderful, But you're
you're not buying it for the flowerlike you see the you know when people
see ginger, they see this reallylooking flower. Okay, break time on
it. We're gonna stay on track, keep the format rolling for biz Talk
Radio. Do stay with us FacebookLive, biz Talk Radio. Welcome to
(48:05):
Garden Compass. Alrighty, here wego, keep on rolling right along here
on Garden America. That's who weare and have been for quite some time,
John, since two thousand and eight, I believe, really this this
edition of the Garden Show. Yeah, two thousand and eight. Before that
we were Garden Compass, No GardenLife, Garden Life, Garden Life.
That's right. Before that we wereGarden Compass. And then before that it
(48:29):
was the West Coast Garden Line overthe hedge, right. Oh. H
Ken Brinkman posted on my on mypage he found an old show of Bruce
Osakawa the opening and it's and Ithink maybe I was engineering at the time,
(48:50):
but it starts off with, uh, you know, Chuck Cooper was
doing the voice over the announcer andhe goes to Bruce, and Bruce starts,
as you know, welcome to WestCoast Garden Line and the whole whole
bit of thought. Wow, thisbrings back memories. I don't know where
he found it. Mm hmm.Anyway, Carlo's question failianopsis. I think
John answered that as far as ifit's if it's the core of the root
(49:15):
right where all the roots are coming, it'll come back. But if not,
trash, I don't know where shakea stick and it came from?
I don't know. Maybe John knowshere for a video though, a quick
video with that very same thing.And we still have fago in Michigan.
(49:37):
Red pop. Oh must be talkingabout a soda a pop. I wonder
if that ryl that is either mysister in law or my brother using my
sister in law. Yeah, asa matter of fact, red pop is
popular. There's a It was anold commercial and it was one of those
I think one of those Disney characteractors that did the commercial. And a
(50:01):
little boy goes up and says thathe wants he wants something to drink,
and the guy says, well,what flavor? And he says, what
do you got? And he goesthrough all the flavors that they have,
and the last one he mentions isred pop and the little boy goes,
I'll have a red pop like notgrat not cool. I mean there was
(50:25):
probably like twelve twelve he went throughin the commercial. But they want the
red What flavor is It's kind ofa kind of a strawberry type thing,
strawberry cherry. Maybe the answer isyour brother. That's my brother Tom.
You never met my brother Tom?No, have not my brother Tom?
(50:50):
Is you know all four of myparents, all four my grandparents before my
parents, all for my grandparents,you know, know today there's all kinds
of things going on, right,but back then you only had two parents,
right, and four grandparents O thetraditional family, right, Okay?
And all four of my grandparents wereborn in Italy, so I have Italian
(51:14):
heritage. So Italians aren't really tall, right. So I'm like five nine,
five ten on a good day,with the shoes and and usually dark
hair. My brother is like sixfoot one, six foot two, has
(51:37):
blonde hair, blue eyes. Ohwow, some questionable skipped genius someplace,
right. Either that or they usedto joke about the milkman or the mail
man. Oh exactly. You knowthe milkman. He was tall and had
blonde hair too. I'm not sayinganything, I'm not accusing, but you
never know. You know what's funnyis that that was probably like a big
(51:59):
tall of the town too. Whenthat happened early, you know, before
they really kind of you know,got into genetics and recessive genes and all
this stuff. If they saw akid that was from parents that seemed at
a wag. Yeah, I loveyour face. I'm just saying exactly.
You can you can say say thesame thing for plants, right, be
(52:22):
like, oh, where did thatplant come from? Veronica? Northern Italian?
The same for the height from uh, Pimonte. Can we visit there?
When we were there, we drovethrough it on our way we were
doing the Italian Riviera. Were onthat one, yes, the one where
we went into France into Menton.Yea, Yeah, we drove through Pimonte.
(52:46):
You don't remember that, I dobecause that was around the same time
we went to that flea market orswap meet and I ran into remember that.
Yeah, how would you like tobe someplace in Europe? Just you
know, could be anywhere? Heytiger? Yeah right, and you see
somebody you went to high school with, and the fact they still recognized me
(53:07):
that made my day. Yeah,I think they recognized your voice. Well,
was your voice was your voice radiolike back then then. I think
you told me once you trained yourselfto talk the way. Well, yeah,
it was a little different. Yeah, I know. It's a lot
higher than when you were thirteen.Hey, Tom says the milkman was five
(53:29):
to five. I think I toldyou guys this. But my mom used
to have actually she had a dislikefor the milkman because we used to have
a milk shoot. Do you knowwhat those are? Not a clue,
I don't know. We had amilkman, but not any shoots. Okay,
Well, this is on the sideof the house, and it would
(53:50):
you'd open the door and the milkmanwould put the milk in there, and
then from the other side inside thehouse, you would open another door and
take the milk out. It's likea mail boxer goes directly into your house.
Yeah, okay, But sometimes hewould push it too far and it
would fall on the steps, andthey were all glass bottled, so it
would break and it would leak throughthe steps into it. We had a
(54:13):
little cubby hole down there where mymom would keep old milk and I would
get on curtains and whatever she hadstored back their clothes and things like that.
Terrible, and it happened two orthree times. But the milk shoot
was big enough that when my parentswould lock themselves out of the house through
there, they would push me throughthe milksh You know. It was always
(54:36):
scary for me because as a littlekid, I'm going in, but then
there's stairs down there, so youknow, okay, go ahead, shove
them in there. Yeah, youknow, we had a milkman, but
he came through a side door.We just left the door open. He
just come and go as you please. Did They used to take a picture
with their cell phone when they deliveredit to to post it so you would
get the email confirmation. There wereno cell phones in the sticks like Amazon,
(55:01):
milk milkman? How long Amazon?Wait a minute, do they still
have those in houses back East?Can Amazon use that to deliver packages?
Little shoots? I don't know howlong until we get how long? How
long until we get shoots for Amazonto drop a few packages miss delivered?
You know one of our loyal listenerswho's now passed away and gone on trips
(55:23):
with us, Chuck, was themilk man? Really? Yeah? And
a coke man, Chuck and Roll. Well, that's why I knew that,
Yeah, I knew that. Ohwas he just Coke? I thought
for some reason it was milk also, well, no, I think that's
I mean coke was later. Fromwhat I talked about, he delivered before.
Yeah, yeah, he delivered allkinds of beverages. Yeah. They
(55:45):
worked for coke milk before your time, right, Oh yeah, way before
my time. Oh my gosh,I mean maybe not way, but not
not way. But before What aboutthe fuller brush Man? Yeah, did
you have those? Yeah, exactly, Avon calling and knock on your door,
ring the doorbell, ding, dong, Avon calling. You remember that,
(56:06):
don't you remember that? I can'tremember what the Fuller brush Man had.
Rachelle says was a milkman before coHey, we're gonna take a break.
We've got a couple more segments togo. Yeah, we'll get back
to guarding. But you know,sometimes we question of about a possible upcoming
trip when we come back. Okay, we'll deal with that too. It
is Garden America. Welcome. I'mBrian Maintiker, Palafox, John Beg Nasco.
(56:30):
We love you. Thank you forjoining us on BIS Talk Radio in
Facebook Live. Guarden America has returnedfrom that fantastic break that was one of
our better breaks for both BIS TalkRadio and Facebook Live. Not completely broken
though, No, not at all. No, it was a minor break.
You know the old funny news quip, you know, when news breaks,
we fix it, well done?Hey, So talking about a possible
(56:54):
trip, Yes, we are soldout going to Costa Rica, hey,
and we're anxiously looking forward to thatin April twentieth. We leave, right,
it's a Sunday, So we leaveon Sunday, which is the twentieth.
The trip officially kicks off on thetwenty first. Okay, but I
(57:15):
have very few regrets, what areyou, Frank Sinatra, being as part
of Garden America. But one regretI've had was COVID. And during COVID,
we had planned what I thought wasgoing to be a phenomenal trip to
Minda la Crin. This was goingto be it, Yeah, it was
going to be awesome. We weregoing to go to Slovenia to the International
(57:37):
Wildflower Festival. Then we had allkinds of things planned going from there to
Austria into the Czech Republic. Ya. Really unique horticles too, Yeah,
yeah, it was we custom designedthis trip just for not only gardeners,
but friends of gardeners who maybe wouldjust like to do beer tasting rather than
(58:00):
visit a garden. But anyway,so that a trip actually got canceled twice
because of COVID. So now thatwe're sold out on Costa Rica, I'm
wondering if we have any people outthere who would be interested in us putting
this trip together again, or ifnot, is there somewhere else you'd like
(58:22):
to visit? I like that givethem a choice. Where would you like
to go? Yeah, send usa note. I know you wanted to
go to the Calgary Stampede one yearthat fell through. You know what I
was trying to organize one year wasa visit to Iceland and Greenland. You
know, I've seen some videos recentlyof people that have gone to Iceland.
(58:45):
I can see why you wanted togo there. Yes, so you Nique
and it has I think more waterfallsthan almost any other country in the world,
just in that one little island.And you know what's interesting about Greenland
Iceland, it's actually the reverse.They called it green because they were trying
to entice people to go, andit's actually more like icy and not as
inviting. I don't think they weretrying to get people to go. I
(59:07):
think they were trying to keep themaway from Ice, to keep them away
from Okay, all right, sothus the names. But Iceland Greenland.
I don't think very many people goto Greenland, so that's why I wanted
to include that in the trip.And you have to go in the middle
of summer or the hot part ofsummer, so I think that for them
(59:28):
that's August. We fly into Rickevicbecause ray Kvic. In August, the
temperatures in Greenland go up to thefifties, like low fifties, so that
would be the time to go.It's nice, right, Yeah, But
anyway, I think there's some coolwildflowers, and I think there are I
(59:50):
know they have a hotel there thatactually has six of the rooms or igloos.
That would be kind of fun,fun, that'd be fun for a
night. But anyway, I don'tthink we're yeah, we're really we're way
off the beaten track now. Idon't think we're going to do that.
But anyway, don't forget Japan.Yeah, Japan, you know, just
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be traveling all next year. Justcommunicating with Sharon who's just got back from
sharing US colleges got back from Japan. Yeah, and she said, we
need to set up a trip toJapan. But the problem, I don't
know. I don't know. Anyway, let us know what you want to
do, right, We're we're upfor anything, right, yep, Let's
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go back and make sure we're caughtup. Rick did ask when bear root
trees arrive and Rick's and Idaho?So do they get them later than us?
Oh? Yeah, okay, becausefor us it's now already they start
coming in in December, right,yep, exactly. And roses a matter
of fact, I think if you'rein warm climates, they're starting to discount
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the prices on roses. They're alreadythey're already selling them out or independent and
garden centers usually pop them up,right, Yeah? Yeah? Where Rick
and Idaho? Maybe? What?Mark? Yeah? I would think March?
Yeah, I know. And whenI lived in Detroit, the bar
roots came in, uh mid tolate April, okay, because the soil
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was frozen. You couldn't take ahold. I mean, that's just it,
right, is it's not so mucha matter of them arriving, because
they can almost arrive even in thecolder areas any time once they after they
go torm it. It's more amatter of what you can do with it
once you have it, and ifit's so cold and the ground is so
hard or you snow, you canhave the bare root tree all you want,
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but you can't do anything with it. Mary says, Australia, New
Zealand. You want to go backto New Zealand. I would love to
go back to New Zealand. Theonly thing is the New Zealand, Australia
and South Africa. Those are goingto be really expensive trips. Yeah they
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are, you know, because they'reso far away. But that is something
to consider. I would consider that. And Lilah says that she and her
husband would be happy to do thattrip to Slovenia or Ireland or Japan.
Ireland er, yeah, Ireland orJapan. Also Ireland would would be another
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were we looking at? What werewe looking at? Oh? That was
was that? Portugal? They bothbecause we talked about what's the island right
off Portugal? Yeah? Yeah,what is that? Yeah? The Azores
and then into Portugal. As yousaid, surprisingly enough, the Azors have
a lot of beautiful flora fauna,yeah. I don't know about the fauna,
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but a lot of I'm into flora. I'll put up with the faunaf
I have to. And Merriweather.So yeah, those are are good ideas.
Green thumbs are on sale, they'rebare one get one by one,
get one free. Mary just plantednine bear root trees and Tucson. Hey
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you I think you sent me toor you took me to a rose enthusiast
house out there in La Masa areaoff of the one five and they're all
in the front yard. Oh yeah. I Isaac has lacrosse practice right down
(01:03:37):
the street from that house now,so I drive by there twice a week
and I've always remember and that houseis just loaded all the way around,
all got a corner lot. Yeah, the median is all planet up all
ros I was just there this week. Okay, pick up the you know
the fertilizer I told you about,Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
She she's a past President of theAmerica of the San Diego Rose Society,
(01:04:01):
and so she puts together that orderevery year for roses. But her roses
were all pruned back. She saidshe's going to fertilize them in about three
weeks and She's been written up inmagazines, yeah, newspapers. She has
a lot of roses. Yeah,for this little corner lot in the city,
(01:04:23):
she has I think like four hundredand fifty roses. Yeah. Last
time I was written up, itwas not a good thing. Yeah.
So and oh and by the way, on that fertilizer, yes, I
can't order it, so I canorder it from directly from them. Oh
really through Site one Landscape supply.And Rick, he was thinking of planting
(01:04:49):
a pluot. What do you thinkIdaho pluot? Yes, yeah, yeah,
okay, I would plant flavor grenade. Oh that sounds fun. Flavor
grenade for its taste, Bryan,that explodes in your mouth. Yes,
so yeah, I would definitely.The pluots are the new interspecific hybrids,
(01:05:16):
So hybrids between two species, anda pluot is an apricot crossed with a
plum or a plumb crossed with anapricot. One way, they're called pluots,
the other way they're called aprioms.You know, years ago, somebody
was doing a commercial for one ofthe independent garden centers and they were talking
about pluots, and they and theysaid something like or dinosaur eggs. Did
(01:05:40):
you ever hear that? Yeah?You know it was a marketing technique that
they tried in dinosaur ace. That'sa stretch, right, I mean even
I didn't see how they You knownow that you're talking about now that you're
talking about fruit, the Sumo mandarinsare in the stores right now. And
(01:06:04):
uh. I went to breakfast witha bunch of guys yesterday and asked them,
told them, you know, hey, Albertson's has got Sumo mandarins.
And there were I think there werefive or six other guys. None of
them had ever heard of us sumomandarin or tasted it. Yeah, and
I have you ever tasted a mandarinbetter than that? No, I think
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they're by far the best. They'recalled. They're called sumos for two reasons.
They're they're big, chubby like rightlike sumo wrestler. But they also
have the sumo wrestlers have their hairin a top knot, and this has
got that top knot on the fruitwhere you can just pull it off and
peel it. It's a zipper skin. By the way, speaking of citrus,
(01:06:50):
we harvested unbelievable from yours. Yep, your your gold nugget. In
fact, we have too many,so I think we're going to juice them
really good job. Yeah, wellyou know those hold until May. Oh,
so we're fine. Yeah, youdon't have to pick them right away.
Some I picked a bunch of them. We gotta take a break.
We'll come back and continue. Onemore segment coming up. Gotta stay on
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track for Bistok Radio. This isGarden America. Stayed with us. So
just before the break, you saidthat the whole till May don't. I
was in a rush to pick him. I was excited. I still have
someone in the tree though. Yeah. That's the nice thing about the gold
Nugget Mandarin is it has such along ripening period where Sat Summamandarin's are ready
at Christmas and you got Watt Tigertwo weeks and you better pick them or
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they get puffy. But these arenice, puffy puffy the magic Mandarin.
Veronica asked if there's a dwarf Pluot. I don't know of a dwarf.
I mean SMI yeah, and thatthe flavor Gnade is a semi dwarf,
and then there's just a Dapple Dandy, which is semi dwarf so oh,
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I don't know if they still haveit. But another really good one was
caught in Candy, remember hearing thatone before? They still have that either,
Yeah, that one was really good. Yeah. So yeah, I
don't know if there's a dwarf.But Tanya mentioned mandarins for the Chinese New
Year ye, which we are inright now, and is it mandarins?
(01:08:19):
And also kum qua quats, right, kump Quat's a big thing. Yeah,
I was gonna say, I thinkkumquats are the big thing too.
It's kind of funny how obviously itmakes sense when fruit aligned with certain holidays,
but then it's also really interesting whenthings don't align with you know,
(01:08:39):
certain holidays. You know, whenplants that are real common, you know,
for you know, specific time ofyear, but then that plant isn't
isn't always in bloom, you know, I mean the Easter lilies, you
know they talk about with Easter,but you kind of kind of force those
to happen during Easter. They don'tjust kind of happen, you know now
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naturally like that. And then Coleengulafor you know, the marigolds for Halloween,
for Diadello's worthos. But colenular marigolds, right, but then I was
right, no, but that,but you know they they you know,
for the marigolds for October sometimes that'skind of like a a weird time for
(01:09:20):
them as well. I don't know, I don't always think that they align
perfectly with that time of years.It's only the giant marigolds they use,
right, yep, those big Yeah. Carla liked the low quats article.
Oh you know what, And Iwas going to mention that when you said
kum quats, low quats, andthat's something you hear much of. I
remember when you had mentioned that before, right, yeah, you you there's
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different varieties of low quats, andI'm looking into planning some low quots.
But uh, we've talked before abouthow it's always good to plant fruit you
can't easily buy, right, youcan't buy low quots anywhere unless maybe a
roadside market because they don't ship.They bruise too easily. So that's what
on that that you should plant.But there's different varieties. One I was
(01:10:04):
looking at is called big Jim bigquat. Yeah. I think, uh,
the most common is gold nugget.Uh. But if you're planning a
low quad try not to plant aseedling because just like with citrus from seed
do you have no idea what you'regoing to get. If you want uh
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specific tastes or attributes, get onethat's been grafted and start early trimming down
the tree because there's no reason foryou to have a big low quat tree.
And they produce so much they likefigs, you have to you have
to really harvest them otherwise they area giant rat and critter attractant and a
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good thing. We don't have alow quad sponsor for the show, but
they're such a great producer. Imean, people that love quats you'll like
to Yeah, they're really good.I haven't had a low quat in years.
Yeah, because I mean John likewell John mentioned like you don't find
him. The only police you're goingto see that is a farmer's market.
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Or if you have a friend thathas as a matter of fact, years
ago friends of ours had a treein their back, or if you're walking
by the sidewalk and there's one onthe other side of the or there's one
within a block. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Yeah, And what you
said so true about keeping it low. There's no reason to but it's a
low quat. Yeah, it's hardto pick the high you know, Hi,
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yes, high knee high quat.Uh. Lila says she heard the
champagne was good. Uh, there'sa variety, not not the beverage,
Brian, I got you, okay, but there's a variety of low qua
called champagne. Yes, that alsois a very good one. Tanya says
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her dogs like them. That's funny. They would find little piles of this
seed. It's funny. I thinkwe're calling, did you we talk about
Linda likes to juice her mandarins andthen freeze the ice cubes and use them
in mimosas. Oh wow, thereyou go. Linda and Carlo said that
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her son, this is just whatwe were talking about, brought home a
low quad seed from school and theyplan on it. It's about six feet
tall now. But never any fruit. That's that's the problem with uh,
seedling fruits, like seedling avocados.You know, you might end up with
something really good, or you mightdon't know what you're gonna might have to
(01:12:42):
wait twenty years and get something that'snot good. Right, But if you
have it, you could graft onto it. If you can find someone
who has a variety of low like, yeah, exactly, we have exactly
two minutes and then we're done.Then we're done, and then the next
week, Yeah, next week.Do we have a guest line up for
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Next week timely, time of year. We're going to talk about rain harvesting,
(01:13:26):
so rain barrels, and it mightbe rainy systems, it might be
raining because I'm more raining is onthe way exactly. I'm interested to hear
this conversation because I always pooh poohdrain barrels. You did, Yeah,
I don't see the reason. Itdoesn't make sense for you in the sense
of like the volume, right,like a fifty gallon barrel you would use
(01:13:49):
up in nut of water, rightright, But for that little guy.
Okay, so if you live ona small lot, that's what you're talking
about, Yeah, Well, orjust the idea that if you can capture
that water. That water, thebenefits of that water are better than well,
that's true. Rainwater is good.Rain water is very good. Oxygen,
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