Deadly Mosquito Disease Prevention with Bill Stengel - Garden America Radio Show [6.29.24] - Garden America - Gardening Podcast & Talk Radio Show

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Come back, my friends, tothe show that never ends. Well,

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every now and then it does andwe take a break. But we are
back in studio along with your gardenbuddies. I'm Brian Maine, John Begnasco
Tiger Palafox back in studio. Aswe mentioned, I was the one under
the weather last week. I'm gonnatake the blame for the show not happening
at the last minute. But weare back. Our guest has been rescheduled.
We're going to talk about standing watertoday. You shouldn't let waters stand.

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I think you know what we're goingwith this, Tiger, right,
I do think I know where we'regoing with this. We're gonna be talking
Bill. We're gonna be talking withBill Stingle regarding Mosquitos, Mosquitos standing water.
But I love that You're like,we're just gonna talking about standing water
today. People like, what that'sgonna be boring. We've had Bill on
several times the last couple of years, a great supporter of our show,
guard in America, So we thankMosquito Dunks for that. So stick around

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for that. John is back ten, rested and ready. John's been hunting
gophers for the past week or Sofamily's in town with John, the grand
kids right here, the daughter's here. It's been nice. This is a
nice break for John. Problem.It's been like a circus at your house,
John, right, and you're thering master, you know, with
grandkids and all the commotion, youtend to forget things that you should be

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doing. And it just came tomind, today's my anniversary. Really,
yeah, fifty one years? Wow, fifty one years. So you got
married. Let's see, Shannon wassixteen and you were at twenty three.
No, no, she was eighteen. Oh okay, Mary, sixteen year
olds? What's wrong with you?There's something about what remember the Man Act?

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That was the Man Act? Right, the man will where you travel
from state to state with an underageperson. What you can't do that?
I remember something about something about that. Anyway, I always tease John about
that because they met when you guyswere both very young. We were engaged
when she was sixteen. Okay,that's that's when we decided to let her
finish high school. Okay, letit finish junior high anyway, congratulate.

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We joke about that. Fifty oneyears later, in one years, what
is the anniversary gifts for fifty oneyears. Well, I don't know,
but over fifty one years, Iwould say probably less than ten times have
I ever remembered our anniversary? Andthe only reason I remember now is because
Shannon mentioned it to me last week. Don't forget Saturday's our anniversary, wasn't

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it? Wasn't it last year orsomething like that where you reminded her last
year? Wait, you guys didit on the wrong day or something?
No, I think that was twoyears ago, because last year we had
it planned out. Okay, ohno, no, no, we didn't
have it planned We did have itplanned out, but we decided to take
that trip to Yellowstone I remember,yeah, yes, but that was after

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our anniversary was over. That's beena year already since she went to Yellowstone.
Yeah. Where does the time go? My goodness, yeah, my
goodness. Gracious as they say,welcoming those on Facebook Live, those on
biz Talk Radio, we thank youfor your support. We think Fertiloma is
our major sponsor keeping us on theair both nationally and on Facebook Live Tiger.

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So we're going to get caught upon a few things. We hope
you had a good week. Ido want to mention this for the past
couple of weeks here in San Diego, it's been in the nineties. It's
been hot. I've been sleeping ontop of the covers. Fans are going,
people have air conditioning. I gotup this morning and it was cold
again. It was nice. That'swhy I wore a long sleeve shirt.
It was fifty nine. When Inow, what's the extended forecast? We
back to the heat, John,what's going to happen? You know,

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I don't know if it'll be quiteas hot as last week. We got
up to ninety five. I don'tknow how hot it was on the coast,
but it was really hot. Yeah, And the normal thing happened because
we had had June gloom up untilthen. The sun came out and just
burned all the flowers. It burnedit. I mean, you asked me
how often I'm watering? Yeah,I said every other day. Wow,

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you know, I missed the wintertime when we don't have to water as
much. And now it's like yougot to stay on your toes. Yeah.
Yeah, acutally with a lot ofcontainers because they right, Yeah,
exactly. And you just treated yourcitrus tree with the soap. Yeah,
let's let's talk about that palm tree. The palm tree. I've got a

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palm tree in the patio and Inoticed about two or three weeks ago sticky
city mold. It was everywhere,it was even on the tiles below the
tree. And you suggested a productwhich you brought me, which was a
three and one. Right. Well, it was the Fertilough Spinosid soap.
Because you probably on the palm tree, you probably have some scale which is

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creating the you know, like you'resaying, the sticky city mold. So
we applied it once and you saidto do it again. Yeah, so
every every couple of weeks. Yeah. Then I say about the spinosid soap
is because it's a combo of asoap, it helps with the sucking insects,
and then because of the spinosa,it also helps with the chewing insects.
So it's a good problem kind ofan organic approach. Yes, yeah,

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no, it's good. I'm happyso far. So we'll be treating
that again today and and they're wateringagain today. Did you fertilize too,
I did, because you got someHB one one. Also, I haven't
applied that yet, but I stillhave a lot of more organize little those
little packets. Oh nice. Icame across these little packets as I was
cleaning out. The shoves were great, and I'm like, oh, this
is nice. It's like a littleeaster egg. I just found. I

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fertilized this week all my plumerius withthat. Do you know what? I
have a butt on one of myplumerius? I got I have some too,
really yeah, I've got leaves,but no budd Everyone of Carse saw
my plumerius die. The only onethat didn't die was when my son and
his wife moved Indianapolis. They leftone behind and I went to planet it

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in the ground. But I hadthe pot up on a table and it
flipped over and broke in half,and I stuck the bottom of it in
the ground and that grew. That'sthe only one that out of my sixteen
plumerias that live so sad, andit's growing out of abuse. Basically,
I don't know, but it's it'sthere. Yeah. But but the other
ones are officially dead. Oh yeah, yeah yeah. I took out one

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and put a fig tree in itsplace and planted a couple of low quots
last week. That's so crazy becausewe don't even know the exact cause of
death, you know, because theygrew, They grew for a year,
they were froze. But at thesame time, I mean, they've tolerated
your environment for a long time.Yeah, so you would think that they

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would have been a little tough toyou know. One of the ones that
looks like it might still be aliveis and I think I gave you a
piece of it. Was the variegatedone, the tri color or the tri
color? Yeah, I do haveboth. You gave me a variegated and
a tri color one. Yeah.Yeah. I got a quick question from
a local guy here that I know, and Joe wants to know. We
found beat plants a year later.Beat beat. Yeah. If we pull

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them, do you think they'll beedible or nasty? Oh? Yes,
I'm going to guess nasty. Well, you know, it depends because they
get tough, yes, so,but edible and nasty? Edible, yes,
edible, but not pleasant? Right, Yeah, Yeah, it's gonna
be. But but the thing aboutbeats too is also how you prep them,

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because you know, sometimes you won'tnotice it. Right, it's going
to be tough, it's going tobe not the tender beat that you're accustomed
to fresh picked ones can't be beat. We've always said that, haven't.
Yeah, but no, on thatold one. I would if you pull
it up and you you cut it, like you're in a prepared boilet or

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something, you can tell if it'squirky. If it's quirky, quirky,
yeah, yeah, kind of likerubbery kind of yeah, right, but
it will will that plant just producelittle baby. They're biennials, like carrots,
huh. So they go to flowerand seed the second year, so

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the roots will stay over, youknow, over winter. I like that
biennial. That's a great word.Biennial. That's our word for the day.
So many things running through my headright now that I know I shouldn't.
I understand, and me too.So why don't we play it safe
and get to the quote of theweek. We still have a few minutes
before the first break. By theway, uh, Lisa is sympathizing with

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us in the heat, even thoughin reading it's going to be one hundred
and fifteen one one five one.Yes, that's okay. So what can
possibly grow in that heat? Imean, you've been reading, but I
know, but it's crazy that it'sa lot of things grow. You know,

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look at palm springs. Same temperaturesas palm springs, right, yes,
what would what would thrive in heatover one hundred What would thrive?
Yeah, as long as it iswell. But that's here, here's the
thing. Okay, just look atthe plants. Well, but what will
thrive in the sense of palm forinstance, water palm springs? Has John

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just mentioned a fight is knitted.A hedge thrives in palm springs heat as
long as he gets water. Ifyou take that same plant and put it
out there in the middle of thelandscape, it would burn. I guess
you'd have less of a variety thatwould thrive. It would you dwindle down.
It's just a desert, just adifferent palette. Yeah, exactly.

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I picked today's quote because we're goingto be talking with Bill about natural controls
for mosquitoes, right, So Iwent back to the sixties and picked a
quote from Rachel Carson. Sixties iswhen silent Spring came out, and she
said, can anyone believe it's possibleto lay down such a barrage of poisons

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on the surface of the earth withoutmaking it unfit for all life? They
should not be called insecticides, butbiocides. M Rachel Carson. Rachel Carson,
I have a quote. Can Igive you a quote? I have
it right here. Tiger gave mea quote last week. I need to
talk to him about it. Ithink this is a life quote right here.

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Be strong but not rude, Bekind but not weak, Be bold
but not bully, Be humble butnot timid. Be proud but not arrogant.
That's from all of our favorite quotersof all time, Anonymous. Anonymous
was a big quoter. John quote. Is that a word? No?

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Quarter is the way it's pronounced anyway. I like that. I like that
quote. Hey, it's break timehere. We're going to get a hold
of our guest Bill talk about mosquitodunks, talk about standing water, talk
about diseases. I guess you canget some nasty diseases from mosquiteka virus.
We don't want that back after what'sthat again, Zeke of oh Zeka,

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Wes s Nile West Nile Dang gayfever. You can't say that on the
air. You can't say okay backafter these messages on BIS Talk Radio.
This is Garden America. Okay,thank you for being right there. Thank
you for hanging in there during thebreak. We trust you had a good
break. We are back. It'sTiger Pellafox, John Begnasco. I'm Brian
Maine. We welcome you back toGarden America. We're going to be talking
about a lot of things, inparticular mosquitos, mosquito dunks. Bill is

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back with us, Tiger. Let'sget this rolling. A lot of people
anxious for this chit chat conversation.Yeah, we have one of our friends
joining the program this morning, BillStingle, with Summit Chemicals. And Bill,
you've joined the program before. We'vetalked about mosquito dunks, We've talked
about mosquito bits, you know,and some of the other products that Summit
puts out there. You know,it is that time of year, we're

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in summer where mosquitos are in fulleffect. You know. The thing that
people I think get worried about themost is the diseases that they carry,
right, and that's why we wantto control them. They're not eating our
plants, they're not you know,creating problems with These actually carry bad diseases
for humans and dogs and cats andeverything. So that's a really important part

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of the control right, Bill,Oh. Absolutely. Recently in the news,
there's been suggestions that we may havea problem with a disease that most
people are probably not familiar with,called Bengay fever, and that's found primarily
in tropical areas, and it's spreadby one particular type of mosquito, which

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you have there in San Diego,and there's a lot of places in the
South. I mean, I haveit here. I'm in Baltimore and we
have it. So it's some skicalled eighties a Gypti, and it's not
a native mosquito, but it's madeits present presence known in many areas of

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the US and it's pretty common nowand it is the one mosquito that does
spread this disease, this Fengay fever, and Puerto Rico has been hit very,
very hard with it. They havebeen a couple of isolated cases in

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the US so far this year,only only found so far in California,
Texas and Florida. Oh, California. Great that that's nice to know,
Bill, as we broadcast from SanDiego. But I mean, but you
know, this is this is thebig problem with mosquitoes. I mean,
we could all say they're annoying youknow that you're out there enjoying your backyard

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and when you get bit, it'snot fun. They hurt and you get
a little bump that itches for youknow, days or a week afterwards.
But you know, the big problemand the reason why communities have organizations like
Vector Control and you know these masstreatments of ponds and reservoirs for mosquitos is
because of the they do carry thesediseases and they transferm to humans and dogs

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and cats and other animals and stufflike that. And you know, you
mentioned the Danay fever, but youknow there's a lot of other stuff.
I mean, you know, beforeDanga fever here in San Diego, it
was West Nile, right, Bill, that's another big one, right,
and West Nile is happening a lotthis year. I mean, the conditions

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this year over most of the countryare just perfect for mosquito breeding. There's
been lots of water, there's nowlots of heat, lots of humidity,
and it's just the kind of climatethat mosquitoes really enjoy. Yeah, and
for those people that enjoy being outsidein their yard, it's a big problem
as well, because you know,of what we just talked about, But

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over there at some of you guyshave quite a few different products that help
people out in their yard depending onthe situation. You know, if they've
got standing water, you've got mosquitodunks and bits. You know, even
just for wet areas, you've gottreatment. So let's start off. I
think we've you know, hit thedunks a number of times and we can

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get to that bill. But ifsomebody's looking for maybe maybe they don't have
an isolated standing water situation in theirbackyard. What are some things that you
recommend. Well, you know,first off, it's it's not just as
simple as going well, I don'thave any standing water, because the standing
water mosquitoes require is a thimbleful thathangs around for a week or so.

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And common areas that people don't thinkis their rain gutters. If there's just
a few leaves in the rain guttersand water is polling in an area,
that's that's a perfect area for mosquitoesto breed. At my home, I
have an in ground irrigation system andI was checking it out the other day.

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I opened the valve control box sittingin the ground and saw an inch
or so of water in there,and sure, enough, they were a
little mosquito larva's wiggling in there.So the corrugation pipe that you see frequently
that people use to get rain wateraway from the foundation of their home,

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those corrugations are perfect for holding waterfor mosquitos. So it's not just a
bucket sitting in your yard. Imean, standing water can be in so
many places that people don't even thinkof. And do you guys recommend certain
products us in there or just simplyflush those areas out, dry them out,

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and you do you know, youdo that so you don't have those
unique standing water areas like you mentioned. I mean, it's easy to identify
a bucket or a pond that's justbeen left to kind of go. But
I mean, what do you dofor that corrugated drain pipe if there's you
know, some standing water in there. Well, yeah, I mean the
first thing we recommend is that youexamine the area that you live and see

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if there's anything possibly holding any kindof water where mosquitoes can breed and get
rid of it. You flush itout, turn it over, just eliminate
as much standing water as possible.And for that standing water that you either
can't eliminate or don't want to eliminate, for instance, a pond or a
rain barrel or a bird bath.I mean, those are nice features to

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have around the home. You cantreat those with mosquito dunks and rest assured
that it will kill any mosquito larvaethat develop, and it'll be absolutely harmless
to everything else. Yeah, Andthat is the critical part because I mean
people talk about, oh, youjust throw a bleach tab in there,
chlorine tab in there, But nextthing, you know, you got little

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finches laying off on the side,or you know, every otheractly, every
little thing that touches that water,you know, isn't going to survive.
Where mosquito dunks, I mean theyyou you know, they use these products
on massive bodies of water that havefish and wildlife around them, right Bill,
Yes, absolutely, Yeah, sothat you know, very safe to

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use in any environment. Now becauseof the heat, you know, you're
you're trying to make sure that thebirds have enough water. Yeah, that's
true. Yeah, and uh andyou don't want to dry out the bird
bath, you know, because thenthey can't use it. So putting a
mosquito dunk and there's a good idea. You know. The other thing I'm

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thinking of is that we've gotten upto ninety five the last week, and
the one thing we're trying to do, like you, Brian, is keep
all the potted plants moist. Andone of the things you do is put
a saucer underneath to hold the water. And you know Bill's it doesn't take
long for those little larva to form. And we did have a quick question
Tiger. I didn't want to interruptyou, but we got about a minute

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to go too, John. Okay, Well, Leonor in Canyon Country wants
to know how long you go ittakes to go from a larva to an
adult mosquito. A lot depends onhow warm it is, the warmer it
is, the faster it occurs,and also the type of mosquito, but
generally speaking, it's four to sevendays. Wow. Wow, it's no

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time at all. Yeah, that'swhat you call it. Quick turnover.
Yeah, exactly. Hey, Bill, we are going to take a break
right now. When we'll get whenwe get back from break, we were
going to continue chatting with Bill withSemma chemicals and talk about some of the
mosquito problems and talk about you knowhow this year's been a little bit different
than years in the past. Absolutelyand again seeing a lot of good questions
and comments there on Facebook Live onthe comments section. Keep those coming.

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We will address those to us andor a Bill here as we Continue're going
to take a break on Brian Main, John Bgnasco, Tiger Pelafox tuned into
Garden in America on Facebook Live andbiz Talk Radio. We have returned.
How about that we are back yourgarden buddies, Tiger Brian and of course
said John Begnascu is here John withhis appearance today, We're all very happy
about that. We're talking to Billfrom Mosquito Dunks and hey, Bill,

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let me ask you a question here, because with everything in life in terms
of insects and animals and so onand so forth, we can bring gophers
into this conversation. What good aremosquitoes to begin with? What do they
do? What's the positive of mosquitosif anything? Well, probably two things.
One, mosquitoes are a food forother animals higher on the food chain

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of birds, fish. That's anyopportunity to eat an insect a mosquito falls
right in there. And the secondthing, and people don't realize this,
but mosquitos are actually also pollinators.So mosquitos most of their energy is derived

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from nectar from flowers. People think, you know, all they do is
bite. Well, it's the femalemosquito that bites, and she bites because
she needs the protein in blood inorder to develop her eggs. And the
males don't bite. They're just outcarousing around and also feeding on the nectar

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of plants. No, that's veryinteresting because a lot of people don't realize
that that they are an important partof the pollinator psychic. I think most
people do know that. Yeah,I mean birds and bats and fish eat
them, you know. But yeah, so you know, but they nonetheless,
they are not fun to have inyour backyard. And I got a

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question Bill in terms of repelling,in terms of treating your yard, you
know, we you know, Brianmentioned gophers and we talked about gophers on
the program and how if you workhard on getting rid of gophers in your
yard, you can kind of getthem controlled. And then when you get
them controlled, it's easier if theycome back into the yard to find it,

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treat it, make sure it doesn'tget worse. Are mosquitoes like that
as well? Where if you treatyour yard and you stay on top of
things, you can kind of pushthem out of your yard and then you
know it's much easier to control.Or is this just something because we you
know, you and I had theconversation about the weather just being ridiculously good

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opportunity for mosquitoes. It was wet, it's hot, lots of standing waters,
are lots of areas that stay stayedwet for prolonged periods of time this
year, So it is just justsomething that you have to do on an
annual basis. Or is this somethingthat you could treat and actually see your
hard work develop over years. That'sa good question. And you know,

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with mosquitos, and this is probablytrue of most other pests, there's only
so much that you can do becausemosquitoes aren't just breeding on your property,
they're breeding on the next door neighborsproperty. So you can do everything right,
and if your neighbor's not doing anything, you're still going to experience some

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mosquito problems, albeit less than whatyou had before. So it really does
take a community to help control mosquitos, and if everybody was on the same
page, we would have far fewermosquitos than we do now. And John.
We saw one of our viewers onFacebook Live mentioned the same thing,

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Carla Well Carlin and Huntington Beach.Yeah, I wanted to know what the
range was because obviously you can't controlyour neighbors and what they're doing. So
she was wondering how far do mosquitoesgo. So, the average mosquito that
most people are experiencing, like theone I mentioned earlier that is responsible for

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the ngay fever, they're very weakflyers. They don't fly very far from
from where they were born. Youknow, a block or more is probably
the range, or a block orless is probably the range of the most
common mosquitos that we know. Butagain, you get into certain areas a

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salt marsh mosquito, which I don'thave. I don't live near a salt
marsh, but you know, peoplethat do recognize that those mosquitoes can fly
for miles. So it really dependson where you are. But most of
the mosquitos that you find in urbanor suburban areas are generally not strong flyers.

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They're not going very far. Yeah, I mean, it's kind of
crazy to think that these mosquitoes dotravel around, because, like you say,
they're not strong fires, they're notcrossing oceans. But you know,
the eggs, the larvae, thosegetting moved around the world are kind of
what probably driving some of the spreadingproblem, right Bill, Oh yeah,
absolutely, yeah. Yeah. Thesemosquito eggs, I mean this one mosquito

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again, when when she lays hereggs, they're they're a sticky egg and
she's looking for areas of water orcontainers of water. I mean they like
breeding in uh, you know,buckets and tree holes and things that enclose
the water. So lay the eggson the side of that enclosure and they'll

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stick there like glue. And atsome point in time, when the water
rises and covers the eggs, that'swhen the eggs will hatch out. And
you know the scary thing is thoseeggs that are laid, if they're not
wet, if they stay dry,they can stay that way for up to
a year. Wow. Oh,I didn't realize that. Yeah, really,

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they're there, and then they readyready as the water comes to exactly
and and so then you know,we all know that, you know,
the summertime is the opportune time.They got the heat. You know,
certain areas high humidity, and youknow, as it gets cooler, it
tends to fade off, and thenthis whole idea that the eggs survive over

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a year is where the problem startsback up again in the spring. Is
there is there anything that you guysat somewhat recommend maybe doing that people can
do kind of getting ready for thefall or the winter to prevent mosquitoes from
coming back in the spring. Oris it just treat now, treat now,
treat now, decrease the population sohopefully next year you don't have such

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a bad problem. Yeah, that'sthat's basically it in a nutshell is Yeah,
you're never ever going going to eliminatemosquitos, I don't believe. Yeah,
there's a lot of talk about differentstrategies that people are trying, and
including releasing mail mosquitoes have been sterilizedso that they can't reproduce, and that's

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all been met with limited success.You know, if anybody ever watched Jurassic
Park, always wins. Yeah,yeah, true, sure, always wins.
Yeah. So, but yeah,if you can reduce the populations and
make it more bearable, then it'llbe better for you next year. Yeah,
that movie was the whole thing wasbased on that mosquito they found in

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the amber in the sap of thetree or whatever it was that had obviously
or supposedly been a dinosaur. Sothe DNA and the blood was in that
mosquito. Yeah, exactly, exactly. Yeah, I want to go away
from mosquitos for just a second becausea few months ago we had a listener
who and I think I have thiscorrect, but Bill, you can let

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us know for sure that was havinga problem indoors in their house plants with
fungus snats. And don't your mosquitobits take terrifungus nats or do I have
that wrong? No, they do, they do. Interestingly, fungus gnats
are in the same insect class asmosquitos. And if fungus nats are teeny

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tiny little things, I mean everybodythat's had house plants have seen these little
black things flying around. But ifyou put them under a magnifying glass,
you go, my heavens, thatlooks just like a mosquito. Oh really,
yeah, I've never looked that close. Yeah. But fortunately they don't
bite, so they're just a nuisance. But like I said, because they're

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related to mosquito, they're in thatsame family. The insect class Diptera mosquito
bits, when made into a teaand used to water your plants, gets
down into the soil where the fungusgnat larva reside because the adults are laying
the eggs dropping into the soil andthey hatch out and become larva and then

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go through their ages and end upbeing an adult and fly out of the
soil. But the mosquito bit teaactually gets ingested by the larva in the
soil and it's lethal to them,just as the mosquito larva ingests it in
standing water. No, for ourlisteners out there, if you're not quite

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sure what the larva fungus gnats are. When you water your house plants,
the little larva come to the soiland there you can see them hopping on
the soil a little bit, andthey're really tiny. But that's where the
gnat itself comes from. So agood idea on how to get rid of

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those. Yeah, and we're gonnato take a break again right now,
Bill, But when we get backfrom the break, I know that there's
a couple other things that you guyshave over there at summit. One,
you know, is the idea ofyou know, repelling the kids the mosquito.
But then number two is this isalso the time yere for flee and
tick, and I think you guyshave some products to help out with that
as well. Absolutely do stay withus those on BIS talk Radio. Going

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to take a quick break Facebook Live. Lots of questions, lots of comments
coming in as we've kind of gonefrom just the mosquitoes to other things that
the mosquito dunks this great product doescover as well in terms of just pesky
insects and nats, so on andso forth. Going to take a break
for BIS talk Radio back after thesemessages. This is Garden America. Welcome
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Radio as well to get all theinformation. Yeah, and we were talking
with Bill with the Summit Chemicals andwe're talking about mosquito dunks, mosquito bits
but also Bill, you guys havesome products for repelling mosquitos as well.

(30:56):
And one of our listeners is askingabout adult mosquito and you know, sometimes
they rb products that they say tospray in the yard as far as treating
some of the adult mosquitoes too.Let's start off with a repellent. You
guys have a repellent. Is thisfor people to use on themselves or in
the landscape. Well, the repellentis for people to use themselves. It's

(31:21):
a personal repellent. But unlike mostof the repellents you find on the shelf
in the store, this is usedto actually treat your clothing and treat your
gear, and treat if you're outcamping, and treat your tent, and
treat your chairs and things like that. So this product gets applied to clothing
before you're wearing it. It's achemical called promethrine. It treats the clothing,

(31:48):
clothing dries, It actually binds tothe fibers of the fabric and remains
in the clothing for up to sixweeks, even after laundering. And it's
just fabulous for killing and repelling ticks, mosquitoes, tiggers, mites, and
other biting insects. Oh wow,more than just mosquito ticks as well.

(32:09):
Huh yep. And you know werecommend, you know, people don't just
use that, use a EPA registeredinsect repellent for your exposed skin. And
there's a number out there. Indeed, is probably the one that most people
are familiar with, but there's someother ones that have been approved by the

(32:29):
EPA. And I emphasize EPA becauseyou have to provide and prove efficacy of
the product. There's a lot ofessential oil products out there. Some will
do some repelling for some period oftime, but nobody has to prove they
work. They just have to putit on a label that it works.

(32:51):
And I don't like that, youknow, when I buy something, I
want to be sure that it works. Yeah, John, are we caught
up? I'm sorry on the questionand to make sure we stay up to
date here, Yeah, I meanI was going to ask that one question
Rick in terms of you know,I mentioned there are products that people say
to spray in the landscape as well. What do you think about those products

(33:13):
that you know people are kind ofattacking the adult mosquitos out there? Yes,
and we have a product that youcan spray a mosquito in that barrier.
Some people I've seen people use it. They go out and they're just
hosing down their entire landscape. Andthe fact of the matter is mosquitos are
rarely going to be in the grass. The mosquitos are weak flyers, they're

(33:35):
pollinators. They get their energy fromflowers, from nectar. So typically mosquitos
are going to be on the fringesof your landscape. They're going to be
on the side of the yard.They're going to land on fence posts,
they're going to land on decks,they're going to land on screens. They're
going to land in carports where it'swhere it's cool, they're not directly exposed

(33:59):
to the sun. So those arethe kind of areas that you want to
treat, and that really reduces youradult mosquito population. But just spraying around
your yard, you know, peoplethink, well, I'll spray this up
in the air and then it'll killall the mosquitoes. Well, yeah,
the droplets are heavier than air andthey're going to settle down to the ground

(34:21):
pretty quickly. So unless you havea really really fine fog that disperses slowly,
I mean you're not going to killthe mosquitoes flying around you, gotcha?
Gotcha? Bill? What do youthink about this happens? I've been
around long enough, so it happenson a regular basis. You get,
I would say maybe every five toten years, you can go to garden

(34:45):
centers or home improvement stores and buyingmosquito plants and all you have to do
is plant them in your yard andkeeps away mosquitoes. What's your opinion on
that? So my opinion of thatis, I mean, those plants are
lovely and they smell nice, butto actually repel mosquitos, you have to

(35:07):
take the leaves of those plants andcrust them up and put them on yourself.
Just planning those plants, unfortunately,is not going to deter the mosquitos.
Yeah, it's tough, Hopes crash, Yeah, exactly. It's like
getting venus fly traps to take careof your yea, every fly in my

(35:30):
house. A great analogy. Absolutely, it's kind of getting an ol box
to think it's going to just cureall the gopher problems right there too,
John Huh Tiger Carl is asking ifyou can post Bill's webs web address and
anyone who has the newsletter, andCarl, I believe I put it in
the newsletter also, so you canjust click on that, but Tiger will

(35:52):
post it so Bill. The otherthing too, though, is you know
this time of year, people arekind of like we talked about earlier with
the hiking and camping, and youknow, there's plenty of wonderful fields of
grass because of after the rains,they've grown, and you know, it's
tick season, and ticks are Idon't know, they're They're probably the creepiest

(36:15):
thing that I have to deal within San Diego in the sense of when
you go walking around in hiking andthen all of a sudden you go home
and you look and there's something justlatched onto you sucking blood out of your
skin. Is so bad. Youguys have some some products for that as
well, and those are again vectors, right, those those can create disease

(36:37):
issues and problems, right Bill,Well, guys, you're lucky in California.
This one particular tick is not inyour neck of the woods yet,
called the Lone Star tick. Thelone Star tick did not come from Texas,
so it does it does inhabit Texas. That was my guess primarily East

(36:58):
coast and southeast. And this isa tick that you can acquire what's called
the alpha gal syndrome. So thistick bites you. People go, what's
that's I've heard a line disease,but what's this alpha gal? It creates
a permanent red meat allergy. Whatso any mammalian meat is It causes an

(37:23):
intense It can be a very intenseallergy. It can be life threatening for
certain people. So I've met anumber of people that have unfortunately acquired this
is so scary Anything Center one timehas said, yes, this is nature's
way of making America exactly. Andso the product you guys sell for flea

(37:52):
in and tick, how is itused? So the tick spray is is
a yard area spray. And againwith ticks, they're not typically in a
well manicured lawn. Ticks don't liketo be out in the sun. But
the ticks are going to be inthe shrub breathe near the trees. It

(38:15):
ticks grasp as an animal or aperson. Hey, hey, Bill,
sorry, I'm going to have tocut you off. We're going to take
a break. Sorry about that.When we get back from the break,
we'll continue on with Bill Stingle withsome attempts. You got to take a
break. Yeah, I gotta takea break for BIS Talk Radio News coming
up here momentarily back at six minutesafter our number two. Do stay with
us. We're going to continue withBill from Mosquito Dunks and to continue the

(38:36):
conversation and let him finish his thought. After the break, This is Garden
America. Stay with us, backwith more. Welcome back to Garden America.
If you're just joining us, welcome. However much time you can spend
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more questions. Let's get back andreset things here for those just joining us
and those that were with us beforeTiger in terms of letting Bill finish up

(39:00):
thought. Yeah, we're chatting withBill with Summit Chemicals, and before the
break, we Bill was explaining howthe flea and tick product that they have
is used and it's a whole yardspray, and you were talking about how
it's applied. Sorry to cut youoff, Bill, but can you kind
of reset from the standpoint of youknow your this is a spray and you

(39:23):
use it on the l on theactual landscape, right, yeah, it's
it's primarily used in the perimeter ofyour property, wherever you have shrubbery and
trees, and if you have anywooded area that encroaches. I mean,
that's where ticks love to be.You're not going to find many ticks in
your yard per se, especially ifyou have a well manicured, short cut

(39:46):
lawn, but flowers around the yard, any plant, shrubbery around the yard,
that's where ticks are going to congregate. So if you treat those areas,
that'll really cut down on the tickpopulation through the year. And also,
you know, people say, well, you know, I'm I know

(40:06):
what a tick looks like, soI can kind of, you know,
monitor myself. If you have animals, you need to be really worrisome of
this as well, right, oh, without a doubt. And people say,
well they know what ticks look like, Well, most ticks that bite
are in the nymph stage and they'reabout as big as a poppy seed,

(40:27):
so they're very very difficult to see. Yeah, hey, hey Bill,
what about because Tiger mentioned hiking,what about those wristbands that people are trying
to sell? Are they effective?It's a staving off the mosquillo repellens.
Yeah, repellence. That wristband worksperfectly for that one square centimeter of risk
that it covers, but the restof the rest of your body is open

(40:50):
game. So you're saying you needto buy a whole but buy a couple
of dozen. You need the fullbody, full body wrap exactly, exactly.
Yeah, No, they and they'renot EPA registered. They don't have
to prove efficacy. Who knows what'sin them. A lot of them will
come and say they're citronella based.Well, unfortunately, if you read the

(41:13):
data, citronella doesn't do anything forrepelling mosquitos or ticks. So it sounds
like it sounds like and go ahead, me, the flame off the candle
will help repel mosquitos, but aregular candle will do the same. It
sounds like these products are supposed tobe like just basic to get around the

(41:35):
actual sprays and the products. Justlike weight loss products. This is fast.
It's convenient to just put a wristbandon and you're good to go,
But you can't get away from thatfrom the real thing. Hey, Kevin
and Cardelaina Idaho. That goes rightinto his question, excuse me. He
was asking about citronella candles and lamps, mosquito repelling lamps and high powered fans.

(42:02):
So yeah, so the best thingto do if you're out in a
patio and you want to keep mosquitoesaway is, yes, set up some
fans that are blowing out. Thosework really well because mosquitoes are weak flyers
and it keeps them from flying in. But if you want a product,
and I don't know these people,but I've used their product, it works

(42:23):
great. It's called thermicell. It'sa device that you sit on your patio.
It has a little insecticide inside andit basically covers a fifteen square foot
area, so if you set iton a table where you're sitting, it
really does the job. Yeah,and you were I think last time we

(42:45):
were on the show too, youtalked about how those bug zappers don't work
for mosquitos. Is that no,you know, unfortunately. I mean it's
a good positive reinforcement when you're sittingout there and you hear this thing go.
But typically they're they're capturing more beneficialinsects than anything else. Yeah,

(43:07):
They're they're catching moths and you know, night flying insects, but mosquitoes are
not drawn to ultra violet ultraviolet lights. So occasionally a mosquito may wander in,
but but it's an act all thedebris or you'll be hard pressed to
find very many mosquitoes. Yeah,exactly. So you know, we mentioned

(43:30):
a number of products here today,Bill, I did post the link to
your guys' website. I know thata lot of people can find these products
online. You know, also probablya lot of their local garden centers or
you know, hardware stores will havethese. You know, do you guys
sell online? I can't remember ifI saw that option. We we do.

(43:53):
You know, we would prefer thatpeople buy our products through our retail
partners, but if they can't findit, yeah we'll we'll ship it to
them. Perfect. So yeah,uh Summit chemicals. Was it some chemicals
or some chemical dot com? Yeahcom? Yeah, I posted that link,
and so you know, people canfind out all the products and and

(44:15):
you know, and then there's eventhings on there that we didn't even mention
today that people have problems. Imean, you guys had foggers and other
other products that people can use it. As you mentioned, sometimes you need
to have that fine misted for theapplication, and you know you can't get
that with the spray, So youguys do have devices that do that for

(44:35):
you, right, Bill, Yes, yeah, so lots of other good
products on there. Visit the website, UH support Bill and summit, and
thank you very much for joining usthis morning. Bill. Lots of great
information and hopefully it'll prevent some peoplefrom getting sick and people will be able
to enjoy their yard a little bitmore. And they're me indeed and me
too true. Thank you so much. Bill. Yeah, you have a

(44:59):
great weekend care pleasure, all right, take it by. It's always a
little bit of a gloom and doom. I was going to say talking about
mosquitoes, but it's scary. Wellnow we're coming away with this meat syndrome.
Yeah anything Like I said, thatinsign syndrome is maybe that's what happened
when you fell and hit your head. You also got a tick bite,

(45:21):
John, and that's why you couldn'teat meat for a while. My gosh,
I never thought of that. ButI can eat meat now, yeah,
exactly, yeah, but getting butI was a vegetarian for five years.
It's not fun. I don't knowwhy. Anyone would do that on
purpose, getting getting bit and thendeveloping an allergic react a severe allergic to

(45:45):
any kind of meat. Right,Yeah, that's so bad. Well have
a happy summer, Yeah, asfar as that goes. But it's I'm
surprised more people don't get sick frommosquito bites when I was a kid.
When you say more people, areyou talking about the United States or worldwide?
Because there's the whole thing about worldwide. We didn't even get into the

(46:07):
malaria exactly, I guess, justthe immediate company, the people around you.
Of course, California is not reallya hot bit for mosquitoes. We
do have them. I would imaginehumidity plays a big part. We're not
that humid. But I remember asa kid getting bit all the time,
bug bites, you know, andputting calamine lotion on and scratching, and
nobody ever said you're gonna die ofa mosquito bite. Yeah, but that's

(46:30):
the thing is here we have youknow, whole you know things that protect
us. I mean, number one, our county has programs that go and
treat reservoirs and ponds and they releasemosquitofish and they release and they spray the
BT and the other things to kindof control areas, you know, and

(46:51):
in countries where that's not an optionand they don't have that yet, it's
a disease. Does run ramps andyou John growing up in Detroit, I'm
sure with the humidity they were everywhere, well in all the lakes, well
yeah. And also you know atnight, the worst thing was there was
no air conditioning back then, soit was ninety percent humidity eighty degrees at

(47:13):
night and you can't put any coverson when you're sleeping because you're sweating.
And then you hear this bzz.Surprise you didn't go out and buy those
mosquito nets around your beds. There'sa lot of countries, like you mentioned,
third world countries, they go tobed at night and there's mosquito nets,
you know. And we were inCuba they had trucks going down the

(47:34):
street with foger fans putting smoky insecticidesout the back and all these little kids
running right behind them chasing the trucks. It's just were you surprised that when
we were in Costa Rica the mosquitoeswere not a problem. I thought they'd
be a little more of a wedidn't have any problems. It didn't get

(47:55):
humid to the last couple of dayson the Pacific coast. No, you're
right, because it is a problemthere. You know, they do have
them and there's yeah, but wewe really lucked out, right. And
as a matter of fact, whenI went to my pharmacist, they suggested,
yeah, might you might want toget a shot for dun gay fever.
Yeah, but no, I meanwe lucked out. Yeah, we're
right. It was a good timeof the year to go. Okay,

(48:15):
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(48:37):
hey there, welcome back, Welcomeback to Garden America. I hope you're
having a good weekend. Now weshould mention this right off the bat.
Next weekend, fourth of July weekend, we are taking We'll be off Saturday
off. So yeah, apologies forlast weekend. Again next week, but
then after that we've we're going tobe bulldozing right through the rest of the
year for the most part. Yeah, we have a lot to talk about
it because then in summertime and yes, harvesting and yeah, getting ready for

(49:00):
summer heat. And isn't it toolate to say that right off the bath
though, since we're like two thirdsdone with the show. Oh I'm sorry.
That was for those that are justjoining us, Okay, yeah,
those that have been with us,Yeah, this is this may not be
new news to you, but ifyou're just joining us right off the bat,
welcome with the show. We're offagain next week, but then we're
coming back and we're going to becontinual for as long as we long as

(49:22):
we can. John anything that weneed to know about. There, our
buddy Histamic in Pakistan is checking in. That's dom. What about mosquitoes,
Yeah, wonder Pakistan. I douldsay there they I'm just guessing they're not
a problem because you think of drydesert climates, but you know, they
could be a problem. They couldbe there certain times of the year.

(49:43):
Yeah, you know, it alldepends on you know, pretty much,
anytime anywhere that there's a little bitof water and a little bit of heat
for a period of time, you'regonna have mosquity. Because, like we
talked about Bill, it's you know, for for depending on where you're at.
It starts when the weather turns warmand that water is there. But
then as soon as it gets cold, the mosquitoes do go into their you

(50:05):
know, hibernation phase where no moreadults, it's only eggs. They overwinter
and then they come back again thenext spring, which which is always blows
me away because you can have anarea that goes completely dry and the next
spring they're back, right, youknow what I mean. It's just like
you would think there would be likea reset, but no, no,

(50:25):
no, they're there. They're justwaiting. They're just waiting for it to
come out. It's like an ambush, it is. You know, when
I mentioned the buzzing in Michigan,Tanya was from San Jose said it said
only the female mosquitoes that buzz AndI have no idea, but where there
was a buzz, there was abike. Yeah. Well, and you

(50:46):
know, I think that he broughtup a great point in understanding the mosquito
life in the sense of it probablywas not the males ones buzzing, because
the males are just going after pollinators. You know, they're just being attracted
to plants, So there's probably zeroattraction events. You some females too,
Huh. They're also attracted to someof the females. Oh, so maybe

(51:07):
they're hovering around the female. Yeah, I don't know. Is there like
a mosquito dance or a mosquito buzzto attract them? Maybe a little mosquito
dance. Hey, Carla is askingabout whether anyone had put in if they
were a finalist in the Heirloom Rosesnamed the Rose Contest. Yeah, and

(51:29):
I don't know if that's over ornot. But there were ten names chosen
and you could go and you couldonly vote one time. It's not like
American Idol where you can put inten votes a hundred different ways or and
then some people were void were prohibited. Yeah. I don't think you were
though. This time. You justdidn't get chosen by I came up with

(51:51):
a name, it didn't get didn'tmake it. But you know, you
have to submit it in order forit to even be considered. You can't
just talk about it. Do youknow how many names there were submitted?
Yes, submitted over over three thousand? What, yes, So they eliminated
down to tention said for some reasona lot of them had my name in

(52:12):
it. Really maybe that should bethe name of the rose. N This
new rose is called three thousand,John's three thousands. I don't know they
anyway, if my name was init, they eliminated it immediate, right,
Yeah, but there were there wereover three thousand, which kind of
surprised me. It's hard to getit to ten. And I can't remember

(52:35):
if yesterday was the last day tovote or if you can still vote.
But anyway, dot com says,I voted that you can wear around.
You know, we didn't think ofthat. We should have. I voted.
Mary says that Southern Costa Rica.Brian that the bird sanctuaries down there
are horrible for Mosquito. You know, in Southern Costa Rica. I think

(52:59):
it's a different climb it, right, Yeah, Well there was Michael Climate
we learned that, right. Yeah. Well the southern part is wilder,
more tropical rainforest, and isn't that? Is it? Panama south of Costa
Rica and then south America. Therewas one country. We were one country
away from South America. Yeah.We went north, which was nic Yes,

(53:20):
right, so south was Panama andthen South America. Yeah, and
we were nine degrees from the equator. Is that right? Yeah, that's
how close we were. That's howclose. And that's why you know when
you went outside, it's a littlea little different heat. But that's the
closest to the equator I've ever been. Really, Carlos says, the voting
ends tomorrow. So if you're listeningon the radio, sorry, And here's

(53:45):
Rick is really upset. I cantell by the tone of his blog there
I have not been getting my newsletterfor several weeks. I don't blame you,
Rick, I'd be upset. TootWell. The only way that could
happen would be if unsubscribed, ifsomeone he may not have done it,

(54:06):
but somehow he was accidentally unsubscribed.Or check your junk box, because sometimes
that changes, like you could begetting something and then all of a sudden
you just stop getting it and youwonder why. And sometimes there's an update
the way they do things and itgoes into spam ord junk. Here's what
we can do in the meantime,Rick, go ahead, johns Well,
I was gonna say constant contact.I noticed occasionally it'll say that a newsletter

(54:30):
was not delivered, and there's differentreasons. What about if we do this
for Rick until he solves the problem, not next week, but when we
return the following week, we canread the entire newsletter to you, from
beginning to end during the show.Right, Well, what about yesterday's newsletter?
Could you just call him when youget home today and maybe you and

(54:51):
Dagne it together. I could dothat, right, and then describe the
pictures that are there. That's agood idea. We'll do what we can.
Rick Service. Geez. Lisa saidshe voted, but her name didn't
make the top ten. Bummer Sorry. Lisa. Carol from Tucson says they're
having happy months. Yes, theydo the Arizona in the summertime, at

(55:15):
least in Flagstaff when I was there. Once a day storm blows through,
thunderstorms, rain and it clears upand it's nice, kind of a warm
rain. Really. Yeah, Ididn't know they were called happy monthsons.
I think she's happy there's a monthsoon. Oh. I think that was
was her little editorial, And Ithink I think if you're in Tucson right
now or anywhere in that region,anytime you get rain, it makes you

(55:37):
happy because otherwise it's very hot andnot a lot of fun. You know.
Kevin brings up a good point.When we got back, the first
thing we did was by pineapples.Yeah, and I said, let me
let me see the tag. Sureenough, Costa Rica. Yep. And
Kevin says that ninety eight percent ofwhat he bought Costa Rica, some from
Florida and none from Hawaiian. No. Yeah, right, they were talking

(56:00):
about that, but yeah, pineappleand Hawaii anymore. You know. Carla
mentioned something that I didn't think of, and you would think that I would
think of it. But she wasletting Rick know that you can get the
newsletter on Facebook. Yep, yeah, that is true. It's everywhere.
Yeah, so go to Facebook andyou got Yeah, it's not really a

(56:22):
link. So when I do thenewsletter, it goes to our subscribers.
Plus it gets posted to Gardener AmericaRadio show on Facebook. Right there,
So there you go, we haveoptions. Carla said that no wonder,
none of her change her names werechosen. They all had jon. I

(56:43):
think she probably did. Oh well, and then in line of the things
her names were better than the finalists, well that's because it was fixed.
There was one that was odd.It was some said it was we got
to take a break real quick.We gotta stay on time. Don't lose
that train of thought, please,John, I'll try, I'll try.

(57:06):
Not. Okay, we've got totake a break. BIS Talk Radio.
This is Garden America. Stay withus, Garden America. That is us.
We've returned to garden Buddies having agood time taking Pella Fox, Brian
Maine, John Bagnasco and John continueyour thought please. Prior to the break,
well, I was I was goingto say. One of the names
to me was kind of intriguing.And now I'll probably get it wrong,
but it was called, oh Death'sWalts. I can't pronounce that, Oh

(57:32):
Death's waltz. Oh Death's Walts,you know, like a waltz, you
know, like dancing. Yeah,And I thought, what an odd name.
But then I looked in that thatWalts was part of the the ballet
Swan Lake, So you have tokind of have no knowledge along that line

(57:55):
to appreciate the name. I appreciatedit after I looked it up. Wondering
how many people are going to lookit up. The bottom two I think
were my favorite, which I wouldhave to look up again. Is there
a rose called swan Song? Yes, it's a miniature rose. Not that

(58:15):
I would I'm too late to enter, but yeah, you'd be. You
wouldn't disqualified anyway, because it alreadyexists, right right. But it's a
lot of the names that I thinkare good. Nine times out of ten,
giant's already taken. Names already taken. It's like naming horses tiger.
There's something funny think about that,you know? Yeah? Ah, John

(58:40):
Well, Lila points this out thatthe rules said no proper names and no
death is a proper name. Thereyou go. You know what, Our
listeners and viewers are so much smarterthan we are. Yeah, they should
be have we should they should havea show I think for a lawsuits.

(59:04):
Yeah, let's go to duty Justiceor something. Yeah, it's supporting to
them ten thousand dollars. It's smallclaims, emotional distress. Where can they
find the list of names? That'swhat I'm trying to just find that right
now. I saw an email withit, because it's not posted on their
website. Is it. Well,it is on their website because that's where
you vote. Okay, so howyou would find that though, I don't

(59:29):
know. Maybe we can find well, it's too late to find the link.
May see. I'm working on itright now, okay, as we
speak, as we balk. Yeah, but yeah, I'll have to point
that out to Robin Adarlam. Interesting. I would be surprised if that name
one. But it was interesting.Yeah, but it's yeah, an anything

(59:59):
that makes you think, you know, probably right off the bat, not
a good idea. I mean it'sdeep, it's you know, you hate
things that make you think. Youjust like to look at pictures, well
pictures. The name of a rose, I get it. I understand it
based on the color, based onthe climate, based on the breeder.
Yeah, Carlos says, it's onthe Heirloom Rose website. But you know,

(01:00:21):
when I went to their website,I had trouble finding it. If
Tiger comes up with it, hecan post it. You know, in
this heat, I'm surprised roses arestill growing. You know, it's a
terrible time to plant bear root roses. They're not even available unless somebody had

(01:00:42):
an overstock and we got hold ofa few of those roses a couple of
weeks ago, and I gave oneto you and Tiger. But established roses
are doing quite well as long asthey're getting enough water. Yeah, no,
mind are doing mister Lincoln, bloomingthem the ones that you gave the
orange one. What's what was thename of the orange one that bloomed orange?

(01:01:05):
Marina? Marina. Yeah, I'vegot five or six buds on it.
So yeah, if they're established,they'll do well as long as you
keep them water. You know what. I've also since I on spray my
roses. I'm also noticing that mildew'sfinally clearing up. Did you have any
mildew during the rainy season? Notmuch. I just have a few little
holes bites here and there on theleaves. What don't you find find anything,

(01:01:29):
Tiger? Not yet? Okay,you know what it was funny you
mentioned the mildew though, is we'vegot a lot of customers who had Palaverti
trees. You know. Palaverti treesare kind of common here in San Diego,
kind of a desert tree, butthey get mildew real easily along the
coast. Because they are a deserttree. They like the dry climate,

(01:01:52):
and it's it's shocking how little humidityis required to give a palaverte mildew.
I mean, it could be justa little bit, just the slightest like
it doesn't even have to be afull rain. It could just be a
overcast mourning all have mildew on themheavy. Yeah, and they'll have mildew

(01:02:14):
on Palaverti trees, you know.And it's tough because those are trees that
don't have a lot of foliage.So it's kind of a challenge. But
I just recommend people fertilized to kindof help it grow. I mean,
they could treat with the fung aside, but in reality, it's they're just
going to keep challenge, keep battlingit because it's going to keep happening.
But they need to make sure toplant Palaverti is in a very open,

(01:02:38):
exposed, dry area to be successful, because yeah, they get mildew really
easy. Tiger, I forwarded theemail to you. Oh yeah, I
don't. I don't know what todo beyond that, That's all right,
I do. Kevin, our buddyKevin in an, Idaho, accidentally pruned

(01:03:01):
the new growth off a small roseright down to the nub. Will it
grow back now? I mean back, I mean John's grown roses from nubs
before. That depends how far down, how far right? Yeah, because
if you've just butted a rose andyou pull that whole thing off, no,

(01:03:24):
it's dead. Right. Did findthe more established, the better chance?
Right? Yeah? Did find thelist of the finalist names, Brian.
There was a Spring Blush o,Heart of Hope, Petite Alegro I'm
not I'm not too fond of that. Then the Odettes, Walls, Antique

(01:03:45):
Blush Wait's what was a finalist?Yeah, yeah, that's what we were
talking about. I thought it wasjust a throw Yeah, Oregami Snow,
That's that's a fun one. Yeah, but I don't get the organ.
Yeah, and Oregami's would not dogood in the snow. Antique Blush sugar
Frost. I kind of like sugarfrost based on the color. Yeah.

(01:04:05):
Yeah, my daughter said, youknow, that doesn't really apply, but
I do like that name sure.As a matter of fact, if it
doesn't win, I'm going to useit for something else. And then there
was a Blushing Dogwood, Spring Dreamand Eternal Spring. What about Blushing Angel?
It was not a finalist. Thatwas my name, Blushing Angel.
Again, you had to submit itin order for it to be va.

(01:04:27):
If I just talked about it,people would glom onto it. It's like
that you're you were thinking. Itwas like the lottery, that your chances
are winning are just as good ifyou buy a ticket as them sending it
to you by mistake. You don'tlike Blushing Angel. What's what's your favorite
on that list? John? Ithink sugar Fries. I agree, it's

(01:04:48):
simple, it's it's to the point. It's different, a little different.
Yeah, yeah, what's your favoritetiger? I'm feeling I like blushing Dog,
which just sounds funny. I justlike Blushing Angel. I liked I
like that Blushing Angel. I'm gonnastick to that. You know. If

(01:05:09):
nobody takes it, I'm gonna welluse it for something else. John,
you remember the story about the Chinarose called Maiden's Blush that came into the
US during Victorian times, And thereal name of the rose was it was
a French name and it translated tothigh of an aroused nymph. But in

(01:05:31):
Victorian America, that name just itwas not going to be good, right,
So they changed it to maiden's blushover here as you remember who told
me that story, Brian, Yes, Julie, yeah, yes, See
it's so funny because I get thatit translated. What did you say?

(01:05:54):
It translated from French from French,But you can't even can imagine if I
came to you and I was like, hey, I got a great name
for a rose thigh of an arousednip. Now you know what I mean.
Let's take that thought and apply itto our contest here. Yeah,

(01:06:15):
so if somebody came up with that, would that have even made the top
ten because it's already been used?But okay, we're assuming it hasn't been
used. We're assuming we've never heardof that before. It would it would
never one make the top ten.It was just like you're what about if
you put it down in French thoughbicept of a mosquitos, the bicept of

(01:06:40):
a mating mosquito. It's just likeyour description, Rose, Are you thinking
nimph as an insect? Nimp?Well that's not what it was. Well
I know that's not it was,But I mean, what about the description
of the eleanor Roosevelt Rose John?We have time before the break Eleanor Roosevelt

(01:07:01):
was the one. She's the onewho made the comments. She said she
had a rose named after her,and she said that she was didn't like
the description. Well, she wasreally pleased until she read the description which
said no good in bed in abed, but great with up against a
wall. Yeah, that was thedescription of the rose. And with that,

(01:07:25):
oh, just in time for abreak those on Bistalk Radio Facebook Live.
We've got one more segment coming upafter this break on Bistalk Radio.
Welcome to Garden America. Happy weekendto you, fourth of July. Next
weekend we are off. We'll talkmore about that next year in Garden America.
All right, ladies and gentlemen,boys and girls, all though little
animals. Gathered around the radio,gathered around Facebook Live, gathered around Bistalk

(01:07:45):
Radio outside our studio. This isit final segment. And again we mentioned
rof next week. Are you stillrelaxing, You're feeling good? You just
don't After the show, I'll crash. Yeah, well, I'm just energy
for the show and then I'm backto sneezing and yeah and all that.
Are you taking any I was aoff medicine? Yeah, oh yeah,
I went out and bought the spray, bought mucinex. Yeah, anybody else

(01:08:08):
that's had had a summer cold,that just lingers. It's the worst because
there's nothing more. Your mom caughtsomething like that, she did, and
there's nothing worse than being in theheat with a cold. And you know
what it was like, too,was like someone's pushing down on your head.
It's just pressure. It's just like, can I just have the sniffles
and sneeze and a cough? DoI have to have this pressure? Yeah?

(01:08:29):
So yeah, when I when theshow's over, I'll get back to,
you know, being grumpy. Ihave I have the rose that John
gifted me that he divided Marina.I have Marina to plant. I've got
three agapanths that I received to plant. They're the ones with the you know,

(01:08:49):
the the agapanthus with the white andpurple flowers. John you know,
you know they have new ones withright. I don't know they call it
like twist or something. But Ihave some of those to plant, and
then I have some Tassia went outon a project this week. She's been
since she's home from school for thesummer. Once a week I take her

(01:09:11):
to work and so she's been doinglittle things, you know, involving the
nursery and landscaping and stuff. Andshe harvested some daililies from a project,
and so you know we're gonna plantthose in our yard. How into gardening
horticulture? Is? She kind ofzero zero? You know, it may
just take one little thing to sparkher interest. I don't think maybe this

(01:09:34):
or something. Yeah, I thinkshe would enjoy it if she got into
it. I just don't think shecares right now. But a lot what
is she? Fourteen? Thirteen?So thirteen? Yeah, well a lot
changes between now and eighteen exactly?What do you? What do you?
No comment? Would you pull upthere? John? I see a list?

(01:09:59):
Well, I I was looking forsomething in particular, and then I
post. Then something caught my eyeand now I don't know what. I'm
watching the phone, all the blogs, in the comments. I will I
got to get back to Facebook.There we go. Whoops, No,

(01:10:21):
I don't know what I did.This is the last segment. My train
of thoughts just came back to me. I was talking to our buddy ping
Limb last week, and he saysthat he's going to revolutionize agapanths breeding excellent

(01:10:44):
because he has the new one outthat did I don't know if he gave
you one. I know we gaveyou one, didn't we agapanths No,
maybe he gave it to Joel.I'm not sure. But it was called
Atomic Bloom and that thing has probablygot each little plant, maybe a dozen.

(01:11:05):
I think this is the one thatI see in. Yeah, it
is. It is like home depotright now, something like that. So
that one is is great. Buthe said that he has one that is
so unique looks like crocus. Really, he said, it's that little and
looks like little crocus flowers. Fine, so you know he's one of the

(01:11:28):
world's best rose breeders right now.But you know, getting intag of panthers.
Has he done other stuff, becauseI mean he kind of seems like
a good breeder of plants. He'sdoing hibiscus also, and he he tried
bogan via but was not successful.You know that hibiscus that I have,
which came from you, has gotto be the most unique hybiscus you cannot

(01:11:50):
you know that company's now closed down. Well, the fact that there is
the size of dinner plates and multicoloredthe reactions I get when I show people,
They're like, what is that?I got to take good care of
that? Those are hard to get. Hey, Tony's got a question about
agapanths. Okay, they don't bloommuch. Old plants get morning sun until
eleven or twelve o'clock. Any suggestionsand then let's see here should I feed

(01:12:15):
something special? So frustrated, Well, you know, we've just been talking
about the new ones, right,and one of the other innovations in Agapanthus
that Ping has done is repeat bloomers, you know, because usually the old
Agapanthus, either Africanus or orientalis,would bloom one time and for a short
period spectacular when they did bloom,but then that was it. And people

(01:12:39):
don't realize it because it's multiple plantsat one time, you know what I
mean, Like, you get multipleAgapanthus spikes, but they don't realize it's
kind of like the one flower,one plant, and then that's it.
So, you know, the newatomic series, you get repoop, re

(01:13:00):
peat blooms on the same plant,which is kind of nice. So it
seems like there's a lot more They'rea little bit more compact, too,
which is a nice thing for somepeople. The flowers a nice dark blue.
Usually when you have agapanths, youhave kind of like a light purple
and a white. But there's onecalled storm Cloud, which is a very

(01:13:20):
dark, big flower. There's theatomic series. Now, storm Cloud's really
tall, right, That's what I'msay. It really tall, dark.
But then there are not as manyindividual flowers in the flower had but the
color is what everybody likes. Andthe stem I think comes up dark too
on storm Cloud if I remember correctly. Yeah, one of us is remembering

(01:13:41):
incorrectly because min miner and bloom rightnow, and I don't think they're dark
stems is okay, but it dependswhat you mean by dark. Yeah,
it's all relevant. But as faras as far as if you have agapanths
and they're not blooming fertilization they areheavy water and heavy fertilizers, meaning you

(01:14:02):
know, they are one of thoseplants if you don't fertilize your heavy feeders.
Yeah, they they kind of turnthe lime yellow the leaves you're talking
about. Yeah, so that's agood way to tell, yes, by
the color of deep green foliage.As far as like specific like you know,
people talk about phosphorus or anything.I don't think so I think that

(01:14:23):
just an all purpose fertilizer would bewhat a agapanthus needs. I think one
of the biggest struggles that people dohave with them though, if they don't
have on an irrigation system, istiming out the watering, because they are
a heavy water. If they dryout, they won't bloom as well.
Guys, that's it. We've gotabout thirty seconds. Once again, for

(01:14:43):
those tuned in, those listening,those watching, we are off next week
for Fourth of July, but thencoming back with a lot of shows after
that to follow. Shouldn't be takingtoo much time off after that, perhaps
here and there. So again,thank you for joining us. Have a
great Fourth of July weekend, Besafe the rest of this weekend and of
course into next week. Thank youso so much for supporting our show.
Big thanks to Mosquito Dunks, thanksto Bill, thanks to Footolum. We'll

(01:15:04):
see you again a week from nextSaturday here on Guarden America. If all
goes well, John right, Tiger, I'll be here. I gotta mark
it down there, I gotta marketdown until that. Enjoy yourselves, enjoy
your families, be good, besafe, God blessed. We'll do it
again. In two weeks. Takecare of This is Guarden America.

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