Effective Mosquito Control Solutions with Bill Stengel - Garden America Radio Show [6.3.23]

Bill Stengel, Summit Responsible Solutions national sales manager, will tell us all about the Mosquito Dunks®, an effective mosquito control that does not harm the environment as well as other effective products to control garden pests.

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Episode Transcript

(00:00):
This is Garden America. Rest assured. We had the last weekend off Memorial
Day. We are back in studio, John big Nasco, go ahead.
You don't like it when I talkover you, but I want I want
you know. I stopped it becauseI don't want you to forget if I
keep on going. Now you knowwhy I interrupt. That's really the only
reason, and then I go backto being rude. But I'll say,

(00:22):
John, go ahead and go Iforgot. Yeah, exactly. Anytime we
go to commercial break, we haveto try to remember for It is good
to be back, though, isn'tit is? Hope you had a good
Memorial Day weekend, A good weekend. We are here to kick off the
weekend. Yeah. You know,yesterday I had some some women who were
on past tours with us come bythe house. That's what you said,

(00:42):
A little a little uh trip reunionwith those people. Yeah. I'm not
really sure why they came by,but you know, I guess they wanted
to see Tiger UH crew did agreat job landscaping the house. You would
be impressed. So it's different thanwhen we were there a month ago.
Completely different. Yeah, I assumeyou had pictures I don't have to be

(01:03):
I always tell him take videos,take pictures always, That's what I would
have done. Anyway, go ahead. So these people, I wish you'd
have been there because then that thatwould have been done. But anyway,
Yeah, Tiger's crew was there.Everything looks good, and I guess they
wanted to see the garden. Andone of the people was Patty from Washington.
I don't know if you remember her, but she was saying that she

(01:25):
talking about the trip, you know, how they enjoyed traveling with both you
and Tiger, and she said,she goes, yeah, she said,
the funniest thing was at the hotel. You know, I ran into Brian
in the hall and he came upto me and really close, and he
goes, you know what, you'vegot to go outside around the corner and
get the lemon cella and it's getthe krema. It's so good. Did

(01:49):
I say that, Yeah, Idon't even remember that. And she said
she said she went and did itand bought a bottle, and she said,
my regret was getting one bottle.Yes, she said, I should
have listened to him, and I'venever come across any lemon cello that matched
that since really even in this country, because because well she she remembers that,

(02:12):
and well that's great, specifically theshe said he was so excited.
That was the only reason I boughtone. Yeah, and that because I
really wasn't much of a drinker still, aren't, right. Yeah, we
went into a wine tasting, right, and I'm kind of ambivalent, like
I'm not going to taste any winetasting. Wasn't it a an olive oil
tasting? And then in the backwas the lemon cell somehow, like I

(02:35):
don't know what I was drinking somehowthe cello, right, I think you
had to go further, and thensomebody asked me to try it and it
was the It was the creamy,right they had been and they had the
pistachio pistashia was the best, right, and my favorite. And you can
put on an ice cream a littlebit of an ill ice cream. But
haven't been able to come across anysince that was that good. I think

(02:55):
I even had a couple of bottleshipped over here um before we left.
So anyway, thank you for thatmemory. And Laurie was with them,
who was also on our trip,and she lives in Encinadas and she makes
lemon cellos. It takes a longIt takes a long time. It's a
long process. Uh, she said, you need Uh she couldn't find the

(03:17):
mentone lemons. Do you remember thementone lemons? She couldn't. She couldn't
find those, but she did getgenoa lemons and she said, it makes
really good lemon cella. Well that'sa great story. And everybody, well,
how do they find out where youlive? John, because you made
it sound like they'd just showed up. Yeah, John's sitting there is no

(03:38):
library. One morning, our friendSusan from Vista had um. I guess
they were visiting her, uh littlereunion. Yeah right. I don't know
if you remember, but on thatone tour, we had a lot of
nurses, and this is a groupof nurses that you know, stay friends
and communicate. There were also twotwo guys that were I know one was

(03:59):
the doctor. Was the nurse thatwere on that particular By the way,
you were right, Dannis as itwas the olive oil store. Yeah,
yeah, I don't know, winetasting, olive oil. You know,
it all runs together, Tiger.After four glasses of that lemon show,
you don't know what you were drinking. I cannot remember what I was going
to say four minutes ago, butfour years ago all the details I like,

(04:19):
they just happened exactly. And we'rekind of kicking around another trip,
but not that we have anything reallyin mind right now. But for those
listening and those watching, we arekicking around another trip, discussing it back
and forth. So hopefully we'll comeup with something in the next few months
to dangle out there to tease peoplewith me. Yeah, you know what,
I think we should have it prettymuch booked by the end of June.

(04:46):
The idea the idea, right,the idea of what we're going to
do, and to see how muchinterest there would be in that. Right.
I talked to several people who wouldlike us to go and do the
trip that we had planned and wascanceled from COVID, So we'll look into
possibly doing that again. But youwant to run by that. I Tennuary,
just real quick the bullet points forthose that didn't hear it, well,

(05:09):
we were going to start out inthe Julian Alps in Slovenia at the
International Wildflower Festival, which is ayearly event that just started up maybe within
the last ten years. But it'snear the town of Bled and if you
Bloed is just Bled. If youlook it up online, it's like a

(05:34):
fairy book setting. It's fairy talesetting. Yeah, it's just unbelievably beautiful.
But anyway, we would do thatand then from there we would go
on to Austria and then end upin the Czech Republic and we had various
gardens and then other sight seeing things. There's a beard tasting, there was

(05:58):
the lippings on stallions that we weregoing to visit r right, A lot,
a lot of fun things we'll see. Well, yeah, we have
a lot more people following the shownow these days, so hopefully that'll make
a big difference with them. Andhopefully COVID is gone and nothing right.
Oh by the way, did wetell you there's something else on the horizon.
So we are back for the showtoday. Now, I want to

(06:20):
give a shout out to our newestsponsor of the show, Root Warrior,
which we'll be talking about as thedays and weeks pass. Root Warrior today
though a long time sponsor Mosquito DunksTiger. Yeah, SEMy Chemicals. We're
gonna have Bill Steingle on with semichemicals, um, you know, longtime
friend of the show, yes,long time and a good support that we
appreciate that. And this is thetime here we normally have them on because

(06:44):
this is the time here when thingsbegin to get crazy when it comes to
bugs, specifically mosquitoes, but allkinds of bugs yar too, yeah yeah.
No. Stagnant water right, yeah, even even in little pots you
know, you know, you youyou. It blows my mind. You
know the amount of mosquitos that cancome from a small little body of water

(07:05):
in an area that was dry,you know, two months ago, three
months ago, four months ago,And it just astonishes me how mosquitoes can
just it's a breeding ground though,right for mosquitos. Stagnant one. You
know what, I saw a mosquitolarva in a bottle cap. Yeah,

(07:27):
yeah, a bottle cap, yeah, you just like a twist on.
I think it was from a cokebottle. It just was laying on the
ground upside down. Was where thewhere the sprinklers hit it, I guess,
And there was water in there andthere's a mosquito larva in there.
So they're everywhere, everywhere, everywhere, And this is gonna be a bad.
Ye, we're gonna talk to Billabout it, but he has some
good products for us and some goodnotes for us, So please support Mosquito

(07:50):
Dunks also want to shout out toFertilo, another great sponsor. They keep
us on the air. Without them, we'd be in the studio talking to
ourselves with no camera, no FacebookLive, no nothing. YEA our friend
who was on that to her,Patty from Chico, sent a text over
and she says, good morning fromLaurie and me. We love seeing your

(08:11):
roses and hearing your stories. Yesterdaysuch a wonderful day. And yes,
Brian, that was the best lemoncello ever it was. It was all
right, another trip back. Doyou remember where it was? Like?
You said, a hotel around thecorner? What what? What town were
we? Where were we? Itwas, Uh, I don't know if

(08:33):
Florence was at Florence get remember,and then we got Then we have to
find the hotel and then you canfind the store and maybe you can order
some more. Oh yeah, ifI ever come across that again, maybe
a case. Did you know twobottles lasted about it? Maybe inside of
a month. Yeah. Well,I was telling the women yesterday that Brian

(08:54):
does not drink. But this waslike soda pop for you. It was
like, where has this been allmy life? Why didn't I know about
this before? Why was this keptfor me? Hey? John, how
about the quarter of the week?We got about a minute ago here before
the first break. I'm sorry Icaught you with your with my quote down.

(09:16):
Thank you. I'm glad you finishedthat sense. Yeah. This quote
is from the former governor of NewJersey, Christine Todd Whitman. She said,
and it goes with our guests today, right. Anyone who thinks that
they're too small to make a differencehas never tried to fall asleep with a
mosquito in the room. That's good, Patty says mentone. It was mentone,

(09:41):
okay. So it was just aswe crossed the Italian border into France.
And by the way, previously Ginadid say we did a wine tasting
as well. Everybody remembers a littlesomething different to put the whole story to
the wine. It wasn't I begto differ with Gina the purpose. I
don't think it was there. Ithink we did a wine tasting though,

(10:01):
didn't we No. I think itwas the same place I could be wrong,
but I think that we were therefor the olive oil tasting and then
the wine tasting, and the lemonchellawas in the back. Well. Whatever
the case may be, it isbreak time for our sponsors on Bistok Radio.
Thank you for being part of ourshow, Garden America. When we
come back, we'll be talking toour guest, Bill Stengel, talking about

(10:22):
mosquito dunks. Here is our guesttoday on Garden America. Do stay with
us. I'm Brian Maine, JohnBegnesco, Tiget Palafox. Back after these
messages on Bistok Radio, and justlike that, we are back. Good
morning once again. If you're justjoining us, of course, you know
that it's Garden America, back withyour garden buddies, John Begnesco, Tuget
Pelafox, Brian Maine, and herewe go, going to be talking about

(10:43):
the mosquito dunks. Bill Stengel isready to go, Tiger. Let's get
this started. And again those onFacebook Live, any questions or comments during
the interview feel free right there onour comments page on Facebook. All right,
good morning, Bill, thanks forjoining us. I know it's your
busy time of year. Our alldiscussion about bugs with you mosquito specifically,

(11:03):
and we were talking earlier this week, and it's a it's gonna be a
hot it's gonna be a big yearfor mosquitos here on the West coast,
right. Oh. Absolutely, Uh, it's bag in the news. I
mean you can turn on the TV, look in the newspaper almost any day
and you'll see that they're predicting forheavy mosquito load this year. And you

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know, aside from mosquitos, Imean bugs in general, if we kind
of pare them up, I meanwe could be talking aphids, we can
be talking you know, caterpillars andscale and other things. They're kind of
in that same realm. Whenever it'sa you know, good year of growth.
There's a lot of new growth outthere, right with all this rain
that we had, We've had thisabnormally cool spring which is just extending it.

(11:52):
So I mean we're gonna have alot of bugs here in southern California
and in the West Coast, right. Oh. Absolutely. So, Now
let me ask you. We knowwe've talked about mosquito dunks a number of
times. You know, I havehim here in front of us at the
show little circular disc. You canbreak him apart. You put him in
standing bodies of water, and that'show you attack the larvae. So that

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prevents the larvae from being able togrow in that water. How does that
work well? The active ingredient ina mosquito dunk and its sister product mosquito
bits is a bacteria called BTI,the Pilosterenziensis israeliensis. So that was a

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bacteria that was discovered back in fifties. I believe it's a natural soil borne
bacteria and it only affects the insectclass Diptera, of which mosquitoes, black
flies, fungus nets, those arethe members of that class, and standing

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water, which is where mosquitoes breed. If that bacteria is present, the
mosquitoes, the mosquito larva that's inthat standing water, they're developing. They
develop from eggs larva pupa to adultand the larval stage they're filter feeding.
So any ETI that's in that water, they're going to suck it in.

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And it's interesting that just the biologyof a mosquito, when they suck that
in, it becomes a gut disruptor. It actually puts a hole in the
stomach of mosquito larva. So theyliterally starve to death in the water.
Okay, so you know, andthat's the starting spot. So standing body

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of water, you put that inthere, and now you don't get mosquitoes
because they basically can't reproduce. Theycan't continue to create an adult life cycle.
Now, you know, we've talkedabout mosquito dunts a lot, and
we love the product. It's safetyuse with fish, it's safety use around
your animals as well. They usethis um. Different government agencies use these

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in ponds and lakes and reservoirs,so it's definitely a safe product. What
are some things that you would sayto people to watch out for, because
there's if you go into a hardwarestore, there's a lot of products out
there about mosquitos, and especially thistime of year when you know they are
becoming such a provent problem. Isthere any products, any chemicals that you

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would tell people to be careful of. Well, I think you have to
be careful with just about any chemical. And even though we make mosquito dunks,
and you know that's our best sellingproduct, the downside to a mosquito
dunk is it won't kill adult mosquito. So if you're if you have an

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issue with adult mosquitos, as asmany government agencies have a problem in different
areas of the country, they havemosquito control that that goes out and actually
sprays areas, and they have touse a chemical to spray those those areas

(15:09):
to kill the adults. Yeah,any chemical you need to be careful of
because they're all, for the mostpart, indiscriminate. Whereas mosquito dunks are
very specific for killing mosquitos, Youraverage backyard insecticide will kill beneficial insects alongside

(15:31):
of the nasty bugs. Got it, Got it? Um, And then
just let you know, Bill,on our show today, I was able
to bring in some of your products, and so if you're ever referring to
anything, I want to let youknow that, UM, on the on
the camera, I have the GreenArmor insect repellent, I've got the caterpillar

(15:52):
control product, and I've got yoursticky traps as well. So if you're
ever mentioning those products, we canhold them up for people to see on
camera and UM, you know,be able to can maybe describe them to
people and we can show them howthey work. Or what they are.
But um, you know um,because you know we're talking about discriminating,

(16:15):
not discriminating, but like being discriminatedwhen you're talking about bugs, and one
of the things is caterpillars, right, because we you might have a caterpillar
problem, but you don't have toyou don't need to spray the whole plant
for every bug that exists to beable to kill those caterpillars. Um.
So you know, I know thatanother kind of bt or spinosa also for

(16:38):
caterpillars. That's kind of like thesame thing as the mosquito, right,
it's a it's a bacteria that they'rethey're using to direct towards caterpillars. Well,
yes, I mean our caterpillar killeris a bt based product. So
whereas the mosquito dunks are BTI,caterpillar is BTK. So a caterpillar is

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a larval stage of an insect,in this case a butterfly or moth and
um BTK. The pilosteringiensis kurstocki UM. Once the caterpillar it consumes that product.
So you're you're spraying your plants likeleaf eating caterpillars eating the leaves and

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consuming the spray that you put onit, it's going to be deadly to
them. It's it's the same thingwhere they'll eat it, they'll stop feeding,
they'll die, and it won't affectany other insect. UM. Now,
spinosaid is another natural product um andspinosaid works very well. But spinosaid

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doesn't discriminate. It will kill many, many different types of insects, so
you have to be careful with that. If you're looking at treating areas with
honey bees, for instance, withthe with the BTK, you don't have
to worry about that. And thenyou know, along with the caterpillars,
I know, caterpillars, bees andhummingbirds are a real hot topic when it

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comes to gardening as well. Youknow, you're just spraying on the products
where you don't want these these peststo be you know, you know absolutely
um. You know, when you'retreating for bees and and I mean treating
for insects like mosquitoes, and youhave areas where bees are foraging, where

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where they have plants in bloom,where there's clover things like that, you
want to avoid spraying in those areas. Mosquito areas where mosquitos typically are they're
going to rest in shrubbery. Um, they're weak flyers, so they're always
resting. They'll rest around shrubbery.Any vertical surface, car port screens,

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those kind of areas are the areasyou want to spray to kill adult mosquitoes.
You don't want to just bomb youryard with the mosquito stuff and expect
that you're going to get rid ofall the mosquitos and everything else is going
to be fine. All right,Hey, Bill, we got to take
a quick break. When we getback, we'll continue chatting with Bill Stingle
with Suma Chemicals absolutely and those onFacebook a live questions comments. We do

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have one from Tony which we'll getto when we come back from the break.
This break is for BIS Talk Radio. Brian Maine, John Begnasco,
Tagget Palafox, Happy weekend. Thisis Garden America. Do you stay with
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California. Tiger Palafox, Brian Maine, John Begnsco. Your garden buddies back

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with you talking to Bill Stingle frommosquito dunks and we're going to continue.
We do have a question. Doyou have the question in front of you?
I do, John, you wantto read it or I can read
it. You're on, John,all right, this is from Tony in
Connecticut, and she says our bill. She's asking what kills soft fly larva.

(19:53):
She understands that's not a caterpillar,but wonders if you can it vice
her on that. I really can'tadvise her in terms of a natural product.
I mean, that's it's it's somethingthat you'll have to use a chemical
control. I'm sure Spinosa, Ithink would take care of that, right,

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I'm sorry. I think spinosa wouldprobably be the best. That's true.
That's true. Yes, Spinosa probablywould take care of that. Yeah,
spinosa. It's not good for suckinginsects, but chewing chewing insects.
And we do recommend spring at theend of the day or early morning,
before the bees when the when beesare not active, so real early morning
or or once the bees go tobed even Yeah. Yeah, so,

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um, did that answer that question? I think yeah. You can't use
a digestive disruptor on you're just adigestive disruptor, you know that John credit
out. Hey, hey Bill,you you had some just great notes for
people that I think they needed tohear before the break. And that's kind
of how to apply that mosquito product, because, like you said, you're

(21:03):
not just gonna you're just gonna takethese sprays, these products for adult mosquitoes,
adult flies, and you're not justgonna like just bomb your backyard.
Um. You know you had mentioned, you know, inside the shrubbery.
It's funny that you said mosquitoes areweak or yeah, weak flyers, right,
because they seem to always be flyingand bugging me. It seems like

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they never stopped. So but yousay in shrubbery, Um, you know,
vertical areas, carboards, those sowhat do you what do you do?
Like, say you have a carpoard? Do you spray the underside
of the car poard? What doyou do for yes, yes, definitely,
yeah, just to spray anywhere withinthe car port um where a mosquito

(21:48):
might possibly land, Spray around doorframes, window frames, screams, you
know, those kind of areas.And yeah, it's amazing how effective that's
going to be. Okay, andone of the things that we really recommend
especially if you're sitting out in anopen patio, is bring some fans outside

(22:11):
because they're weak flyers. And ifyou if you have oscillating fans that are
working away from you, you're goingto keep the vast majority of mosquitoes from
coming in and getting you. Gotit. We just oscillate those suckers,
right, yeah, exactly easy solution. But but you guys do also offer
a repellent, right, we do. We we have a new repellent which

(22:37):
is different from most of the otherrepellents on the market. Most of the
repellents you apply to your skin,so people are familiar with deep and then
there's some others that are very effectiveagainst mosquitoes and ticks to carrot in and
m lemon eucalyptus oil. I mean, those are all and you want to
make sure you're looking for or oneof those skin products that's EPA registered,

(23:03):
because to get an EPA registration,you have to prove that it works.
You have to prove efficacy. Andthere's a lot of repellents out there that
you can cook up in your kitchenwith food ingredients and they may work to
a small degree, but they don'tgive the long lasting protection that these other

(23:23):
repellents do. But our repellent isdesigned to be used on clothing, clothing
in gear. So you spray yourclothing that's pants, shoe, socks,
shirt, because those are all areasthat mosquitoes will land or ticks will get
on, and people don't think aboutthat so much. So it's just adding

(23:45):
an extra layer of protection. Youtreat your clothing, let it dry,
you put it on, and it'llkeep working. It'll keep repelling for up
to six weeks, even if youwash your clothes or can you know if
you wash your clothes. I wasgonna say, if John showed up and
didn't wash his clothes after six weeks, I think they would repel me too.

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So yeah, so even after youwash your clothes, it can protect
her up to six weeks. Huh. Yeah. The active ingredient is a
chemical permethrin, and it actually bindsto the fabric fibers. Now, the
more you wash, the less effectthat it's going to become as a repellent.
So, um, what my wifeand I do. We have our

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specific clothes that we treat and ifwe're going hiking, or if we're out
in the garden or you know,those are the clothes that we wear.
You come in, change, puton something else if we're going out to
dinner. Yeah, I think alot of people wear kind of what we
would call shell clothes when you're outthere, right, like a college shirt
that maybe you know, you justput on as you go hiking, or

(24:52):
some pants and then like you say, like then you just change them.
Maybe you don't have to wash themas much, or you know, at
least they're the ones that you dedicateto that repellent um exactly. Now on
on how does how does that work? Is it an odor based repellent like
when the when the bud? No, it's actually a neurotoxin for ticks and

(25:15):
mosquitos. If they land on itum, it will either repel them or
kill them. Oh wow, Now, isn't promethrin a synthetic pyrethrite? It
is? Yeah, so pyrethrans youknow tiger right, No, from well,
chrysanthemum, chrysanthemums. Yeah, soeven though it's not technically organic,

(25:41):
it's synthesized from organic molecules. Isthat correct? Yes? But but yeah,
but yeah, make no mistake,it is not considered organic. Right.
You can get natural organic pyrethrins umand pyrethrans work very well for kill
a broad range of insects, butthey don't have any staying power. It's

(26:04):
sort of a one and done wherethe synthetic pyree roids will last four,
six, eight, twelve weeks dependingon the application. And you have some
good notes on the bottle. Youknow, you mentioned springing it on your
clothing, but I mean you're sleepingbag, you know, your tent,

(26:26):
you know, I mean, ifyou've got any kind of outdoor area that
you're trying to just prevent bugs fromcoming in, you're saying apply it on
those as well, because you know, like you say, it's either going
to repel them or if they landon, it's going to kill them.
So you're going to have this almostprotected area around you, whether you're camping
or in your backyard. Well,it's interesting. I'm not at home right

(26:47):
now, but my wife contacted melast night and she said, I've got
a tick on me. I don'tremember the last time I had a tick
on me, And fortunately it wasn'tattached, and she got it off.
She promptly. She was sitting onthe back patio and she promptly got the
green armor and went out and startedspraying all the fabric on the furniture.

(27:07):
Yeah. Yeah, it has outto work. I mean it'll it'll help
repel anything that it gets to it. But she was freaked out. Yeah,
Carla and Huntington Beach has a practicalquestion and she's she wants to make
sure. She said, now,this is not going to harm or stain
the fabric. Correct, It's notharm or stain the fabric, and once

(27:32):
it dries, it's completely odorless.Oh that's cool. So so that's the
green Armor insect repellent that you guyshave out right, And just let you
know, I got this from MissionHills Nursery and for a one court ready
to use bottle. We have itat seventeen ninety nine. So for people

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that are interested in it, I'msure they can probably find it online if
they can't find it at the localgarden center. It seems like that would
last a while, right, Yeah, that's yeah, especially if it lasts
for six weeks. If you're well, unless you live in Louisiana. Well,
I'm worried about all the rain we'vehad here on the West coast and

(28:14):
talking about this mosquito invasion, I'mthinking that they're gonna get Harrison Forward to
do a remake of Mosquito Coast andfilm it right here in California. Right.
Oh did you see did you seethe there's a new Indiana Jones coming
out. I heard about that.We can talk about that off air,
oh, Harrison Ford. Um,hey, Bill, we're gonna have to

(28:34):
take a break in one more minute. But um, you know we you
know, we covered your repellent caterpillarkillers. We's covered mosquito dunks a little
bit. Um you know, Iknow this time of year also flies inside
the home um or just flies youknow, in your back patio. So
when we get back from the commercialbreak, I want to chat about some

(28:56):
of the products you guys have tokind of cover the flies, because sometimes
people don't think about that as muchof a problem. They go they're nudstance,
so they don't always take the stepsyou do with the mosquito dunks and
stuff like that. But let's giveour listeners some tips about the flies.
Please absolutely when we come back morewith Bill and where we reiterate something else
that somebody's asking about on Facebook Liveas well. So do you stay well

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this we're going to take a breakfor our friends on Bistok Radio. Brian
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we'll get into later on as well. So do stay well this Tiger as
we continue now with Bill Stengel herewith Mosquito Dunks and basically talking about how
to repel just about everything this morninghere on Guarden America even repel us.
Yeah, but Veronica has a question, John, you have it in front
of you, excuse me. Yeah, Veronica from Spring Valley wants to know

(30:26):
if the product can be sprayed onwood wood chairs. Yes it can,
okay, so yeah, so um, same kind of thing. Just spray
it, let it dry, andthen it protects up to six weeks,
even on wood. So I guesswe should ask is there anything that cannot
be Yeah, that would be thebest way to approach this bill. What

(30:47):
can you not spray it on?Well, we absolutely don't recommend spraying it
directly on your skin. That istrue. It does say that in big
bold letters. Really yeah, sodon't directly it's on your skin, But
I mean pretty much any other kindof surface it seems like it'll be okay.
It's labeled us a cloathing in geartreatment. So again, sleeping bags,

(31:10):
tense bedrolls, mosquito netting, Yeah, pretty much anything outside. And
I know you're not advertising it,but you guys you did mention it that.
You know, it seems like youcan spray this product on an area.
Let's say, you know, ourscreen door. We spray it on
there where you said the mosquitoes aregoing to come and rest, and it

(31:33):
might make them not come over therebecause it's a repellent. But also you're
saying there is some possibility of itactually killing the mosquito if it does land
on there. Yes, that's reallycool because any way to decrease that population.
Yeah, exactly, it's good inmy eyes. We have a Kim
in Tucson, Arizona, says thatshe has an established butterfly garden. Uh,

(31:56):
and she doesn't want to kill abutterflies or caterpillars, but she's allergic
to ants and the ants are killingher and her plants. Oh, she
wants to know if there's any ideasshe's allergic to ants, that's what she
says. Oh, interesting, Bill, do you have any ideas for your
bill boy? That's that's yeah,that's a tough one. Um. Yeah.

(32:19):
There are a number of products outthere as ant traps, and there
are some that are outdoor that thatare steaks that you put in the ground.
Ye. So yeah, obviously toavoid harming the butterflies, you don't
want to indiscriminately spray the area forants. Yeah. So so I would

(32:40):
recommend going that route looking to seewhat product that you can place in the
ground to take care of your antproblem. Yeah, and Kim, I
would I've been really successful using theTarot line of ant controls because they're granules
you can sprinkle around so they're notgoing to be on the plant. And

(33:02):
then also if you have them goingup trees, you can use the dust
and actually put it around the baseof the tree and it'll last a while.
And it's if I'm not mistaken,it's the same chemical Bill was talking
about, which is permethrine. Okay, so synthetic pyrethroid that's really effective.
But you're going to spot treat.You know, you don't want to anything

(33:25):
you spray on your plants. You'rerunning the risk of damaging some of the
things you want to keep around.This sounds this sounds horrible, but I
like the Tarot products as well,and their bait stations have always been really
good for me, especially for inthe home. And it's almost like you
just what I would do is Iwould find an ant, and I would

(33:46):
put that bait station near it,and then you know, hours later,
I'd come back and I would justsee a line of ants going in and
out of that bait station, andthen because that ant gave the signal.
Yeah, and then as as thebait station we get emptied, I'd put
a new bait station in there,and and I would kind of put the
bait stations back to where I sawthey were coming in the home from,

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so that way they weren't going throughthe house after a period, right right.
But then at the same time,I also knew it's like a line
of death. You know, youknew that they were just it's really messed
up. But you know, itworked. It kind of kept them out
of the home. And then itit's your own little death row, isn't
it is? It is? Butum hey, so so Bill, before

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the break, I had mentioned fliesbecause we we all we all know mosquitoes
they bother us, they bite us. But flies, you know, in
the home, they're they're just kindof a nuisance for people. Um,
you know, fruit flies, youknow, different kinds of flies. What
are some products you guys have formaybe helping people with that? You know,
there's those biting flies are out thistime of year two you know they

(34:52):
do right, Yeah, they arethey really rare up that I want to
kill a fly? Yeah, Sowhat do you guys got for bill so
so, unfortunately we don't have anythingfor house flies or the biting flies um
other than the green armor on yourclothing would help come out against the biting

(35:13):
flies. And in the home,I don't have anything except for fungus gnat
control. So people at house plantsare familiar with fungus gnats. I'm sure.
I think every bag of potting soilyou buy these days is loaded with
fungus gnats eggs. So as soonas you plant your replant your plants,

(35:34):
you're gonna have fungus gnats. Andso is that the sticky trap then that
you can use on your house plantsor inside your home for that well,
yes you can. You can usethe sticky traps. Um stinky traps are
really good for monitoring to see ifyou have a problem, to really break
the life cycle. We get backto the BTI because fungus snats and mosquitoes

(35:59):
are in the same family. Youcan take our product mosquito bits, and
there's instructions right on the bag whereyou mix four tablespoons per gallon of water.
What are your plants with it?It gets down into the soil,
the fungus nat larva are feeding downin the soil. So once they consume
the tea that you're putting on yourplants, they'll consume that and die.

(36:22):
And then you know, after acouple of weeks, when the adults all
die out, after they're finished layingtheir eggs, and now you've killed all
the larva, you're gonna break thatlife cycle. Yeah, it's good.
How long do you know how longthat life cycle is? Because that's something
people don't think about, right,they treat They do it once and then
they think, oh, everything's allgood, and then a few weeks later

(36:44):
the problem happens again. So howlong do you recommend they monitor that before?
We recommend three weeks? Okay,Yeah. The nice thing about the
product is that it's it's you can'toverdose it. You can't overuse it.
And I know people that are usingit they just use as part of their

(37:05):
regular watering routine for their house plants. All right, hey, Bill,
So yeah, we've got about thirtyseconds left. When we get back,
we're going to wrap up chatting withBill Stingle with semi chemicals, give some
people some information on how to getahold of semi chemicals and get ahold of
their products. Yeah, do staywith us. For those on Bistok Radio,
this is the final segment of ournumber one. You've got news coming

(37:27):
up top of the hour. Wecome back at six minutes after going to
wrap up with Bill Stingle. Hopefullyyou can catch that as well. Those
on Facebook Live, do stay withus again. A short break for us
on Facebook Live a bit longer onBistoc Radio as we take this break back
after these messages and news on BistocRadio. Well, hi there, Garden
America is back. This is atthe beginning of our number two. Those
on Bistok Radio, hopefully you heardor with us, I should say,

(37:50):
our number one. If you're justjoining us, we appreciate that. Thank
you again for those on Bistok Radio. Those on Facebook Live, we continue.
So I think at this point intime, John and Tiger going to
get back to Bill wrap things up. Any last minute questions on Facebook that
as well will work. Yeah soagain. Semit Chemicals, Uh, semit
chemical dot Com is their website whereyou can find out more information about all

(38:13):
their line of products. Um.Also, it's pretty cool. I mean,
you know, there's there's not alot of companies out there but they
do have a hotline number that peoplecan call with, you know, any
kind of questions as well, butdefinitely email them, you know at semit
chemical dot com that, um,you know, if you have a question
on product, because a lot ofthe products you guys have, Bill,

(38:35):
because they're so specific in their uses. Um, you know, like we
mentioned with the repellent, you know, being able to use it as a
repellent, but at the same timeit can actually decrease the population of the
bug as well. Um, it'skind of fun to find out what other
things, i mean, the mosquitodogs. I mean, it seems like
that's like a you know, there'sso many uses and so going to semit

(38:59):
chemical dot com you can find outa lot more about the products, right,
Oh definitely. Yeah, So thankyou very much, Bill, and
uh look forward to chatting with youin the future. And um, I'm
sure maybe towards the end of thesummer when our bug population starts dying down,
will will be grateful of all yourproducts. Have a good have a
good weekend. Sounds good. Thankyou so much, guys, All right

(39:22):
bye, thank you. It's protectingthe world from blood suckers. One mosquito
at a time. Oh yeah,so how about those mosquitoes. Fortunately have
not had a mosquito problem in awhile. Nothing buzzing around inside the house.
But you're right when it's quiet andyou're sleeping, that's all you hear.
Yeah, you know. Yeah,my my problem because Janine, my

(39:46):
wife, gets bit bye mosquitoes alot. So you know certain people.
Yeah, it's it's more than Idon't get bit as nearly as bad as
she does. But I I justdon't like flies. The flies. Just
recent too, I noticed yesterday asI had we had the visitors at our
home that a couple of people wouldyou know, kept swatting the flies or

(40:09):
trying to brush them away. Andyeah, I don't know why. They
just pick on you. One don'tpick on you, and it just keeps
you know. I think we allgive off maybe a different chemical smell or
something, or there's something that they'reattracted to it and everyone everyone is a
different vibe. Yeah, and everyone'sa little different. I don't usually get

(40:29):
bit by much of anything. Yeah, you get, you give out the
vibe, don't mess I give apositive vibes you get, don't mess with
me vibe. I just don't likein the patti or wherever the drunk flies
this time of year. Oh yeahthat. First of all, you think
it's a hummingbird. It's not becauseit's about as big as a hummingbird,
and it just like like it hasno sense of direction, and I scream

(40:49):
like a little girl. I haveto be honest, please, Well,
it's an element of surprise. Andthen once you kind of focus on what
it is, it's like, okay, then you know you're doing one of
these things. Well yeah, andyou like you say, you do one
of these things where you're trying totrack it, and yeah, you can't
track it because you never know,like a normal a normal thing would pick
a straight line and John, whatare they for? What? What good

(41:12):
are they? What do they beat? Right? What is their purpose?
The fig beatles? Yeah, right, we're talking about the fig beatle,
green or june bug. Same thingas small brownish ones. The big one
is big beetle. Right in thegrand scheme of things, they serve a

(41:32):
purpose, right, everything, buteverything has a purpose, just like I
think one time I asked you orsomebody, well, you know, gophers,
what what good are they? Andsomebody said they aerate the soil?
Yeah, yeah, this as closeas you're gonna get. Always a grand
scheme of things, Like John said, um, you know, there's always

(41:53):
I had something that eats something else. I had one that aerated the soil
and killed my last He brought thespinners, you know, the one with
the big flowers. Rated Well,you can't get those anymore. And I
went out there and I thought,oh, that thing's gone. Gopher got
it. And and I found thegopher that got it, and the hawk

(42:15):
really appreciated. Oh you're you're feedingthe hawks and the bird of prey,
right John? Yeah, you knowsome people stuff the gophers back in the
hole. But I, first ofall, I feel bad killing anything.
You know. Of course, youknow how many snails are at my house,
right, They're everywhere, And Iusually don't kill the snails. I
put them in the trash. Yeah, and I figure, if you can

(42:36):
survive the recycle, you know,go for it. You deserve to live.
But you know, they they don'tchew the roots off my plants the
way gophers do. So gophers beingsolitary creatures, though, do you think
you have more than one? Oh? Yeah, I think I have a
thousands. Yeah, No, they'renot exaggerating, but you know I've got

(42:58):
I would say that I have threeand a half acres. I probably have
fifty to fifty. Oh gosh,how many acres do you have? Three
and a half? Yeah, becauseyou go way back beyond what you would
think. When we were there,you said, that's my property, all
the way down and up the hillthere, right, So when are you
going to develop that? Well,Tiger's got to finish up on top fresh

(43:21):
Yeah. And and by the way, I know I'm sounding like a broken
record here, but if you needany landscape work done, Tiger's crew is
unbelievable. Now, don't expect you'regonna get Tiger to come out here.
That's what's gonna happen. They wentout of your house on Wendy morn.
Hey, I was thinking about this. I said, work when you get

(43:43):
back from Belgium. Yeah, andmaybe a couple of two or three weeks
after maybe a month, we shouldhave a summer swear at your house.
I'm I'm excited to see John's houseand about a yeah, yeah, landscape.
I don't want to wait a yearthough. No, but I'm a
party. I'm saying when it's grown, because the landscape he put in in
terms of plants and all of that. In about a year, they're gonna

(44:06):
look really cool and it's gonna makethe house look really After you left,
Um, I planted roses and yeah, I saw it. Did you see
that? I was up there onMonday other crews, So I saw where
you kind of interspersed something, right, And I was kind of joking about
you not doing the work, Butdo you the reason you're not doing the
work is you do all the consulting. You're the main guy. Now,

(44:28):
eventually all the roses that you havein containers, will they eventually all be
in the ground or dead? Yes, So there is a fate. We
just didn't know which one right,right. But the ones that are in
the ground are growing so fast.And I can't emphasize enough how great the
neta FIM drip is. And Johnactually can do it, meaning install it

(44:49):
like he's heart I left in theparts. He's gonna actually be like,
oh, I'm gonna I'm gonna plantsome more plants over here, and I'm
gonna run water to them. Andlook at you know our webmaster Dan,
you know he's got our website oryou are l up on our Facebook page.
He just put Eco Gardeners up there. Yeah, so so you know
he's listening obviously everything we're talking about. He makes it easier for Facebook viewers

(45:10):
and listeners because you can click rightthere on the right hand side of things
that we're talking about, which willtake you right to garden America dot com
and right to Eco Gardeners, whichof course is uh is Tiger and his
landscaping coming Daniel keeping busy there.Our friend Kim from Tucson has another friend
Carol, who also listened to Sonand I'm not sure the purpose of this

(45:32):
question, but she wants to knowwhat you think of El Nino. Oh,
just the weather pattern that they sayis going to be coming now.
This is supposed to be a bigbad one this year. Now that right.
Sometimes they get these mixed up Ninaand El Nino. No, it's
La Nina, that's right, law, you're right, yeah, today it

(45:52):
could be yeah right and el nino. Yeah, but we don't want to.
It depends which pronoun needs you.But um, what do you feel
like for the West coast? Elnino means no rain, right? Is
that a dry pattern? In LaNina? Is the wet pattern. Correct,
But it doesn't mean no rain.It just means a it's a more

(46:16):
humid so more humid though, SoI wonder how that affects Tucson because don't
they get the dry yeah the monthssoon it's yeah, around the July,
August, September, Yeah exactly.So No, I think that that means
that they are going to get therain, and then we don't get the

(46:37):
rain, we get humidity. Now, why are they predicting such a strong
one? Um? I know thatthere's patterns, right, it comes and
it goes. It's usually it's usuallyevery five years, right or less that
it happens. I don't know thatthere's a there's a pattern of when it
returns. And I think it allhas to do with the oceans and stuff

(46:58):
and the currents and talking about wherewe get to humidity and like Tucson gets
you know, the dry heat soon and so forth. It's all currents
and weather patterns. Yeah, yousee, it does. It does come
from the ocean, right, andit has to do with the abnormally warm
right, pacifically warm water is beatingcold water is what is going to be

(47:19):
driving it. Yeah, you're likewhat you're saying is right, and I
can't remember. I don't know.There's details well being in general, but
that's basically it. But but John, you ask why, and it's because
they know the ocean temperatures already andthat's why they're predicting it to happen so
severely. Is because the temperatures thatare happy now in the ocean or what's
going to drive that whole temperature patternlater on in the summer. We're gonna

(47:42):
take a break for our friends onBistok Radio. Also gives our Facebook viewers
and listeners a little a little breakfrom us because we talk continually, but
it's a quicker break, and it'sradio. If you don't talk exactly and
you're driving, it's just terror silence. Yeah, like in the old days
on the AM radio. Drive underage Simon and you'd lose the signal.
Right, we're going to go ina lot of directions. We're back after

(48:04):
this on Bistok Radio. Hey there, we are back having a good time
on Bistok Radio Facebook Live. Didwe answer the questions? I think most
of all, I think we did. I think we answered your comments.
I think we're questions. Unless I'mnot up to date, Yeah, Veronica
says, depends on ocean currents exactly. Yes, indeed, all right,
So again, general questions are welcomeon Facebook Live. Whatever's on your mind.

(48:27):
As we Yeah, heading into thesummer months now, still very cool
here in San Diego. There waseven some rain driving in this morning.
But I told John rain, well, it was a heavy well when I
came in, it was a itwas a little heavier than miss. I
had to have my windshield wipers.Yeah, enough to have your wipers on.
It's gonna get hot soon though.Well, will enjoy the cool weather.
Why we've gotten that for two weeks, so hopefully when you come back.

(48:50):
Yeah, I can deal with itwhen I'm back. But you know,
I trust the irrit temporary irrigation thatTiger set up and hopefully that all
works. But I know I'm gonnaa couple plants they're gonna get. You
know, here's the deal when John, when John leaves, he entrusts certain
people, right, But you're neverquite confident, are you, John.

(49:12):
But at the same time, Imean, you know, there's nothing that's
going to replace John as far asgetting out there in water with anything that
plant. But then he even talksabout sometimes when he's out there watering and
you know there'll be a dry plantor something. But um, I think
what has been so nice though,is that John. I mean, normally

(49:36):
this hot weather starts much earlier thanwhat it Oh yeah, yeah, and
had a meeting earlier this week,and I'm like that, usually we have
this hot weather pattern that starts inMay, and it might go hot for
a week or two and then itgoes cool, and then it hot for
a week or two and then itgoes cool. But we haven't even had

(49:57):
that hot whether yet. And it'sfunny because I'm starting to see in the
landscapes just the number one the slowprogression of growth, which is kind of
weird for us because usually we havethis like intense amount of growth because we
get this warm that's due to theheat, which we haven't had yet,
right, right. And then numbertwo is just the plants look healthier because

(50:22):
they haven't had that intense heat thathas come on yet. So I'm actually
really excited to see this year's summer, by the way, because I think
the plants are going to look reallygood. On a I guess this doesn't
really relate, but the sugary tomatothat you gave us. So we're starting
to see, you know, littletomatoes. Okay, but they don't get

(50:44):
that big. I don't think.No, No, they're small. To
me. It's a very small tomato. But one actually ripened up. My
gosh, you want a sugar rush. Yeah, I'll tell you. It's
a good thing. They aren't big, aren't they cherry tomatoes? They're smaller
than a cherry right there? Smallthere, little, and they're not round.
They're kind of an oblong. Yeah. I'm trying to think there's a

(51:04):
there's a yellow tomato, golden tomatothat's common to this. Very very sweet.
If they were any bigger, you'dbe like, that's too much sugar.
Yeah, but you pop in twoor three these in your mouth,
they're very good. Yeah. Andthere's a lot of them, are there?
Are there a lot on the differingright. I got a cage up
in there. I got a cageup in everything. Okay, because it's
really it grew in the first coupleof weeks. But yeah, very sweet.

(51:27):
It's called sugary for those that areinterested. Yeah, we got some
comments, don't we joll Yeah,Veronica mentions that you were talking about this
mist and she said in Ireland theycall that soft air soft air, like
yeah, and then Tanya says,yeah, I want to say thank you.
Many months ago you recommended grow morecitrus growers, but for citrus trees,

(51:50):
that sounds like a recommendation that probablycame from you. Yeah. Yeah,
because you gave me a bag.And she said, I finally fed
my lemon tree and oh my,the leaves are so dark green now in
such quick results. Thank you forrecommending that product. Awesome. I always
love to hear that is good tohear, you know, and especially if
we have somebody like you know,Bill on This Morning with Mosquito Dunks or

(52:13):
some of her upcoming sponsors for italone, when you use that product to
give us some good feedback on thatas well. Yeah, I love to
hear it. Yep. Oh mygosh. Here Carla just dug up her
overcrowded yellow clive yas oh okay,and she says she has about fifty plants.
Wow, and she doesn't want tojust throw them away. Do you
know any plan exchanges in Orange Countythat she can donate them? She doesn't

(52:37):
want to throw them out. Yeah, I don't really like some yellow Clive
Ya huh would write something. Yeah, but you know those were real rare
for a while there too. Ohyeah, it used to be ten dollars
a seed. Yeah at one pointreally but um and now now you can
get them right, Yeah, they'remore common, right, But what was

(52:59):
it? Was something gold? Ifeel um was the was the variety that
hit the market. I can't remember. It's like something on the African coast
and it was something gold. AndI remember that was the Clivia that when
it came out, it was liketen dollars a seat or something in the
yellow. Remember not ringing a bellright now, But I was going to

(53:21):
mention that on Facebook there's a SanDiego Gardeners Exchange and and Carla, if
you post, if you look thatup, I think that there may be
enough people in north San Diego Countythe people would be driving up to Orange
County that may come by and getthem. So you might post that and
then also check and see if OrangeCounty has a plant exchange, because a

(53:45):
lot of areas do have that andit's kind of nice. And then people
say, you know, don't wantany money, just drop off some citrus
if you have it. You know, some fruit like a little trade or
something. Yeah, but yeah,I couldn't edge and thrown away fifty of
those. But you know what,you got to have shade. You've got
the orange ones right right, right? Yes. I used to have a

(54:08):
variegated yellow Clivia that I got fromMonterey Bay Nursery and I left it at
my old house and I wish Ihad that back. Purpose you just didn't
think at the time you wanted it. No, I just had so much.
I mean, you can't dig upyour entire landscape, right, was

(54:28):
it? Very slow growing? Though? Slower growing? Right? Clivia aren't
that fast growing to begin with,right, But the variegated ones. I
think that's true of variegated plants ingeneral. Right, Yes, you have
the surface of the leaves that don'thave as much chlorophyll, so they're not
producing food. So the plant's goingto grow slower in general. Yeah,

(54:52):
because you know, I've seen thosevariegated ones and you'll see you'll see a
Clivia in a five gallon pot andit'll have four, five, you know,
different parts of the plant inside thatone pot, and they're growing just
fine. But then you go tothe variegated one, just one, just
one plant in that pot. Right. Yeah, Well, Manny who is

(55:12):
one of the owners of Monterey BayNursery, it was his father in law,
Joe Celimony, that began breeding Cliviasfor different colors, and he had
the first, the first variegated leafones and the first yellows. But one
of the things that I didn't realizewhen they took me to the breeding house

(55:34):
for the clivia was he would showme the seed pod. I think we've
talked about this on air before,but he showed me the seed pot and
he would say, see the stripeson the seed pod, that's the striping
pattern that's going to be in theleaves. So when they're doing their breeding
work, they know specifically what topick. Hey, you know, I
want this pattern that's neat. Yeah, that's really neat. How much shade

(55:57):
is Clivia need? Ronica is askingit on where you live, because coastal
regions, you know, they don'tneed nearly as much, right, but
she lives in Spring Valley. Theyneed fullshit hot, hot Spring Valley because
what will happen is the foliage isso leafy and lush that it burns,
It burns. Yeah, yeah,that's it's said too Okay, we're going

(56:19):
to take a break. We've gottwo more segments. We're having a good
time. It is the weekend.It is a Guarden America Brian May and
John mcnascar attack of Palafox. Yeah, keep those of comments, questions coming
on Facebook Live. We're gonna takea break for Bistok Radio back after these
messages. Thank you for tuning in. Hey we are back, John.
That was quick, wasn't it.It was wow? A blink of an
eye. We're back. Carline andHuntington Beach says, if anybody on Facebook

(56:40):
in the area wants plants, they'remore than welcome. So, yeah,
you can reply to Carla. Yeahonline, And what about if you're listening
to the radio next week, ifyou're in Huntington Beach, going to our
Facebook and well, anybody anybody listeningon BISTOK Radio can go to our Facebook
page Garden America Radio Show. Youcan see all these comments and yeah,

(57:05):
right, and send her a note, send her a note. There you
go. And again we want tourge people to go to our website,
Guarden America dot com. I wason there this morning. It does change,
Daniel keeps changing that website. We'vegot articles. We've got a lot
of things going on there. Informationon one of our new sponsors, Route
Warrior. So if you're on theon the page, read up on it.
Prior to having her on the show. Our guest coming up in a

(57:27):
few weeks. Speaking of changes,the newsletter is going to change the next
two weeks. Yeah, well you'regonna be gone now you're in Belgium.
Does this have something to do withyou being gone? Yeah, Tiger is
going to be doing the newsletter really, yeah, so we can implement those
ideas we have. Yeah, finally, nice. Nice Now that you can
change it back. John's going tocome out on Friday. Oh, I

(57:49):
don't care if we change it back. Actually, i'd like listeners, comments,
see the kind of job that Tigerdoes, and if he does something
different that you like, be creative, put your finger print on. It's
just gonna be an email. Ishis click here for the show? Yeah?
Just it's gonna be all white,nothing behind you. Just make sure
that the fonts are all the same. Don't change font sizes types you wish

(58:12):
to use comic sans yeah or symbols, but have fun with that. Seriously,
that's gonna be the whole thing inemojis so funny. Has has constant
contact ever slowed down? It's prettyconstant, isn't it. It is it
is unless you know what, Um, if you don't open your newsletter for

(58:35):
about a year, you're getting droppedoff, right, Yeah, yeah,
but it's a great newsletter. Johndoes a good job. So you're you're
You're two weeks in Belgium. Youknow, I'm not going to be back
until the twentieth of June. Alot of change in the whole month of
June. I know. Basically wehave to think of having a guest or
two in here. Yeah, we'llkick that around. I think Tiger already

(58:57):
has the guests slanged up. Yeah, for the next couple of shows.
Oh, you know I'm talking aboutin studio. Yeah, I know.
In studio we discussed a few people. We shouldn't say anything right now because
then people will think, hey,what happened to you said someone so was
going to be on Well Harrison,Yeah, he's in San Diego. I
think I told you his story aboutHarrison Ford and in Taylor's herb Gardens that

(59:21):
used to be in Vista right refreshus and a lot of people have not
heard that story. Well, Idon't want to say it on air.
Oh it's one of those stories,one of those stories, just like your
Raymond Burr story, right, howwe answered the door. Not quite in
that direction, but a little differentdirection. You know. It's really interesting
because after you told me that story, I watched an old interview that he
did with Johnny Carson, and atthe time he said, you know what's

(59:43):
going on, how you're doing well? He had bought an island in the
South Pacific, Raymond Burr, andhe talked I thought, and if well,
I think you know what. Thatwas the second island, one of
the two. But he talked abouthaving a farm, and he talked about
orchids, right, and he gotinto the orchard story, and I thought,
well, that adds a lot ofvalidity to John's story. Right.
Raymond Butler, who basically brought theorchids to the US, probably forty forty

(01:00:14):
years ago, maybe fifty years agoin California, had Raymond Burr as a
client for for purchasing orchids from him. And Raymond came over and said,
I need some help with orchids,and and hans such you know, sure,
and he goes Okay, I'll beover to pick I'll send a car

(01:00:36):
over to pick you up. Makesure that you pack for the flight.
And he said, we are youtalking about? He said, well,
my greenhouse is in the Azores andwe're going to fly over there. I
need you and said, no,I have a business to run. I
have a family. I can't justpick up and go. Can't just leave.
Um. He remember made quite quitea bank. He banked pretty good

(01:00:59):
with that show. Perry Mason.Yeah, actually referred to him as old
Ironside after the fact. He rolledright into that because the last year of
Perry Mason was sixty six. Ironsidesixty seven. He had quite a good
run and made They made a lotof money in that show. Good for
him. It's good show, avery popular show. Did you finish all
the Perry Masons. No, we'renine. We're in like night season five,

(01:01:22):
around sixty two. We started infifty seven. It all the way
up. We've been going through theWaltons. I never that's one show I
never watched. You know you youneed to watch it again. Really,
I know it's all same, andI know it's all that I know.
But you've got my John Boy Iknow that, but you you think in
your mind what it's like, andit's really not. You have a different

(01:01:44):
persons like Little House on the Prairie. No, not at all. Let's
see, I could not watch TheLittle House in the Prairie. And apologies
to the listeners who love that,because I know a lot of people like
people. This is your opinion.Yeah, that's just my opinion. But
I really could not watch The LittleHouse on the Prayer. But going back
to the Waltons, you do havekind of the same feeling. But watching

(01:02:05):
it with an older eye, it'samazing how much the world has changed.
You know. Interesting I mentioned thatto Dana, how watching things now compared
to when you watched it young.Even music. You know, I'll hear
an old song that I heard athousand times and I'll say that's a good
song. I've heard it, andI'll hear the lyrics for the first time.
How Come I didn't hear it thatway when I was younger? You

(01:02:27):
know, It's it's different. Butyou're right, John, looking at things
and I always like to see theactor's age. So anybody that you grew
up watching that were they were alwaysolder than you. Well, now with
this stage of your life. You'reolder than they are, but they still
seem older. Yeah, so I'llget on Google, like, say,
watching Perry Mason, how old wasthat actor? Forty two? Yeah?
Wow, Well you have um especiallylike the Waltons. You know, it's

(01:02:53):
a story about a family when theystart out, a lot of them are
really young kids. Well is kidsage through ten years or however long the
show was on. There's huge changes, um or. You wouldn't notice that
with adults. If someone goes fromtwenty to thirty, not that much of
a change different in them from fromfour to fifteen, big change? Yea.

(01:03:17):
Is it the same actors the wholetime too? Yes, a couple
of them end up dying during theshow. So that's our new entertainment.
Entertainment segment which I think whenever prettywell for the first time. Oh my
goodness. Okay, we got afew minutes until the break our next bring.
Don't think I'm refreshing my comments?Yeah, all right, so,

(01:03:37):
um, well locally here Tiger MissionHill's Nursery. Yeah, we're we're not
official officially in some no, itis. It is summer and that's the
weird thing, right is that?Yeah? I don't know if it's officially
in summer. I think it is, but um, I'm looking at normally
in San Diego, we've had acouple of heat spells were more like three

(01:04:00):
weeks away from the summer solstice,right, right, So that's what I'm
saying. So that's the official beginningof summer, right right, So for
San Diego, we usually are summernow, you know, meaning me by
this time at least had some warmweather, right and you've gone to the
beach a few times because it's beenso hot in nineties a few times,
which leads me into my question atthe nursery, normally this time of the

(01:04:23):
year, what would people be buying? What would you be doing this different
now since it's still cold. Well, that's what it is. It's weird
because um, either we we havenot had as good a year for the
nursery than um normal because rainy,drizzly, cloudy weekends don't make for really

(01:04:44):
nobody wants to get outside in garden. Yeah, normal gardeners love it because
it's cool and it's easy to plant, and you're watering the last and you're
watering less first. The ones thatare just going out there on that.
Oh it's a beautiful sunny day.I want to go plant plants. They
aren't doing it because they're not gettingthat that sensation. So it's going to
be interesting. I don't know ifif it's pushing them into June, so

(01:05:08):
maybe we're gonna have an abnormally busyJune, or if we're just gonna completely
miss I think, you know what, here's the deal. We're gonna have
to have consistent warm weather, nota couple of days back to cold.
I'm talking about a couple two orthree weeks so people feel comfortable that this
is the weather. Now, wellyou'll have a late hopefully a late surge.
Yeah. But the problem with thatis is anybody that knows plants,

(01:05:30):
you should have already planted tomatoes.You should have already done this despite the
way, done that, despite theweather, because you need that much time
before it flowers, before established rightswhatever it is to establish. And if
you do that, I mean,you know right now you should be you
know, definitely talking you know,pumpkins and those things that you want in

(01:05:55):
the fall, because they need thattime in order to Actually it's almost a
little too late, right, Imean you think you may May or June
pumpkins. Pumpkins the last time youcan plan plant it to have a pumpkin
for October, and that would definitelybe the last. Usually if you get
in down in April, we normallyhave warm weather in April, or it's

(01:06:15):
April May just too cold, toocold. Yeah, yeah, but if
you want to grow giant pumpkins,oh no, that you need those down
in April. But yeah, Imean if you're looking at like those little
pumpkins and you want to grow,June would be the last moment that you
could have. You you don't.You could plant them in late June,
in July, but you would havepumpkins in November. And man, you
can cord yourself, right, youcan cord yourself. All right, We're

(01:06:38):
gonna take a break. We haveone more segment coming up, and that's
gonna do it. It's been afun show so far. We've gone in
a lot of directions, so wedo appreciate that. Keep those questions comments
coming those on Facebook Live. Thankyou for supporting us on Bistok Radio,
because after all, this next breakis for you. And just like that,
we are back and we're gonna openup this segment or a final segment
catching up on a lot of questionsand comments. John, So you're ready

(01:07:00):
to go, Let's let's go backinto revisit. Okay, Well, first
of all, going back to Carla'syellow clivias. Yes, she said that
if someone's having trouble getting in contactwith her, they can email me at
John at Garden America dot com andI can give them Carla's email. That

(01:07:20):
was Carlo's idea, That was heridea. But I'm gonna be in Belgium,
so I don't know. Good luckI'm getting his email. Well,
well, we'll catch up. We'llcatch up on it. Tanya says that
she was told that clivias and potslike to be roote bound, and she
wants enough that's true. I've gotone in a pot that seems to be
a bit root bound and it doeswonder that. Yeahn't by choice, kind

(01:07:43):
of by accident. And they havethose thick, fleshy roots, Yeah,
out of the pots. Right,Well, that's what I'm referring to,
Yeah, sticking out of the pot. So do they like that, John,
do you know? Yeah? Theydo like being do like that's referred
to as being crowded. They likebeing crowded. They would do well in
an elevator tiger. Yeah, arenot claustrophobia only if there's uh uh sunlight

(01:08:08):
in the elevator skylight maybe okay,uh what is this? I'm not sure
what this means? Well. Kimin in Twusids says Mission Hill's Garden Club
would probably drive to propagate four eventsfor it. Maybe maybe she's talking about

(01:08:30):
up to Orange County to pick upthe clivea pick up the clia. Oh
okay, and then uh Patty andSam Marco says she's afraid to plan her
clivee in the ground because gophers arerelentless. You know, you've got those
gopher cages. Now, you couldslip that right around the clive and put
it in and you'd have nothing toworry about. Yea. I so far

(01:08:55):
with the roses, the gopher cageshave done really well. And they're not
those heavy chicken wire cages. It'sa loose one that's really easy to work
with and pull up around the roses. Yeah, comes out of a mesh.
And I wonder if gophers eat Cliviaroots. I'm not sure. Sometimes
there's those big fleshy roots that gophersdon't go towards so well. They love

(01:09:16):
Gerbers I'll tell you exactly, Gazaniasand Gerbros. A bunch of comments about
how awesome Daniel is Brian, Yeah, he does a great job. Thank
you, Daniel. We appreciate it. And then uh, people mentioning they've
been watching the Heartland series. Theylike that. Oh, here's one from

(01:09:39):
during our entertainment, right entertainment segment. Yeah, this is this interesting.
Lyanne Lyanne or Leanne, I forgetor if I mispronounced, and I'm mispronounced,
I'm sorry. But she said whenshe was attending Queemaca College, she
took a field trip to UC Irvine. Ooh, and they had what was

(01:10:00):
of Raymond Burr's orchid collection. Ohreally, yeah, I didn't know that.
I got to go to the zooone time. The zoo is the
UM Southern California, the San DiegoZoo. Here is the Southern California UM.
What would they call it customs wherethey collect orchids that they catch people

(01:10:25):
kind of crossing boards with them andstuff. They send them to the zoo
so they confiscate them and send themthe zoo and then from there they can
figure out whether they need to bedestroyed, whether they will send them to
back to where they came from,or whether they send them to like other
botanical gardens. So maybe for theircollection or whatever it is. So they

(01:10:46):
have this greenhouse where all this stuffis kind of coming in and out.
They have some really neat stuff inthere. So I knew they did that
with the animals. You know,sometimes the collect trying to smuggle burgles or
a silverback gorilla. They'll try tosmuggle. We're maybe a baby might carry
on, didn't There used to bea commercial where it showed a gorilla and

(01:11:08):
Samsonite luggage or something, Yeah,showing how strong it is. Yeah,
he was beating it up and throwingit around. Yeah, seventies, late
sixties seven, it might have beensamsonite. Back when luggage when you picked
it up, you didn't pull upbehind you. Yeah, I'm trying to
hand around the handle? Is allthe difference? What decade? When did
that that transfer take place? Fromthe old carry on luggage? For the

(01:11:30):
role your luggage, it was mygeneration because I had luggage that you held,
okay, okay, But then I'vealso been around to see things like
the eighties. Maybe, yeah,probably the eighties brand. You used to
you guys use steamer trunks, didn'tyou a long time ago, back when
you were crossing the all those patchesof all the places in the world that

(01:11:54):
you've been Singapore, India, Bombay. That's funny now, you know,
speaking a place. I don't knowwhy this occurred to me, Tiger.
A long time ago. We weretalking about Balley because you've been there before
and you've surved over there. Yeah, and you see all these wonderful pictures.
It's beautiful, it's green, it'stropical, and you said, sure,
go down the block and make aleft, and it's the third world

(01:12:14):
country. Yeah, just like that. They keep it's literal. They try
to keep the church away from thereas much as possible. I mean,
yeah, it's it's a literal village. They you know, each um village
has its own area, I guess, okay, their own county, their
own state, whatever they you know, call it. And no, they
still live very simple, very simplerule. And then right down the street

(01:12:39):
hotels and beautiful buildings and ocean.Yeah. By the way, I get
confused sometimes because our good friend Lilafrom Pawe uses different names. Well that
was Lila, that made the commentR so sorry about that, Lila.
We're in Belgium. I do knowhow to pronounce. Are you going Brussels,

(01:13:03):
Brussels, Belgium. You think ofBrussels, right, Brussels sprouts?
Yeah, in fact, I can'tthink of Try your sprouts the sprouts when
you're there, right, Yeah,I don't know. They just call them
sprouts. It's gonna be interesting.You have to take a picture if there's
just a menu and they just saysprouts see picture or two. He won't,

(01:13:23):
but I'll try. We'll take what. I'll text you. I'll remind
you'all texting him. Yeah, youshould call in since we're eight hours difference.
Yeah, so yeah, so ifwe go on at eight, you'll
be around four or five o'clock inthe afternoon something like that. We'll bring
you on. Yeah, exactly what'sgoing on? How you doing? People
would love it, you know,they really would. Yeah. I know
that's a whole thing though, butdifferent. He's like, yeah, i'd

(01:13:47):
have to call you don't want towork, I gotta call. You have
to be around, Well, youcall me, know how to make the
call. That's all just called.There's no few called me. I would
probably answer, and I say probablybecause usually the ringers off. I love
it because now is nowadays with cellphones and you're in a different country,
it doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. There's no country. No. You
just dial the no. I could. I could call you from here.

(01:14:09):
You know what they said. Ineeded to get a plan from AT and
T. It's ten dollars a day. Not if you connect to Wi Fi.
You can do Wi Fi calling,which is just in your hotel rood
in the hotel. Do you meanyou can do you mean it's possible.
I can call you from here.You don't call us. I would call
you from here exactly like we doa guest. Put you on hold,

(01:14:31):
explain how the show works. Bringyou on. I'll call you on Friday
before to make sure you're all set, all right. I don't know.
Look at him, he's all shylike I don't know. Maybe you know
what I thought was kind of funnyis I don't know why. In the
back of my mind, I toldyou that we have a closing dinner in
Brussels on Friday, and that wewere instructed to dress was smart, casual

(01:14:58):
with a touch of elegance. Itold you how to and I was telling
John, I was telling Shannon,you know, I said, you know,
I'm gonna have to ask Brian orTiger what that means. I don't
know why. My thought went toTiger and come in. Tiger has no
idea what that means. And Briangoes, oh, yeah, shoes with
no white shoes with no size,well, no dress shoes, no socks,
jeans, and a sport coade.Oh I got white shoes. No,

(01:15:19):
no, no, just any kindof dress shots. And then what
was the sport coat? Cheese?And I said, then for the and
top it off with them glitter onyour face, which, of course I
was kidding that that's usually smart inother words, like you put the coat
on, right, there's your smart. Take the coat off. It's casual.
But the touch of elegance is whatwas throwing me. That's why I
mentioned the glitter. Yeah, touchof elegance. Hey, we gotta get

(01:15:42):
out of here, all right,I guess, yeah, thank you?
Well, Hey good Hey, safetravels. Yeah yeah, say in touch.
We'll be texting guys, and thenwe're there. Next week it'll be
you and I, Tiger, we'llbe here. I'll try and send a
postcards. What is it nineteen sixtytwo? Sixty too is calling you anyway?
Thank you so much for listening thismorning, those on BizTalk Radio Facebook

(01:16:03):
Live. We appreciate it. Enjoythe rest of your weekend. Tiger and
I are back next week here JohnsonBelgium will catch up with him. Stay
safe and we'll do it again nextweek here on Guarden Compass for the entire
crew, Daniel or a webmaster myself, Brian Maine. Tiger John, have
a good one, Take care,see you next week.