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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Alrighty five four three two one on the air. Mike's
are hot. We are ready to go. As always, we
are broadcasting live from the Polacious HM, the Polarcious iHeartMedia
and Entertainment Studios here in San Diego, California. What show
would that be? Of course it would be Garden America.
Been on the air now for many many decades. I'm
Brian Maine, John Magnasco Tiger Pelafox. We are here, ready
(00:22):
to go. John is here, ready to go. John High. Oh.
John barely made it, but he's here because you know why,
you have tenacity and you care.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
Probably true, that's definitely why.
Speaker 1 (00:34):
It's definitely why.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
It's not that his his car just wakes him out
of bed. In every set.
Speaker 1 (00:41):
He didn't sleep well this week?
Speaker 3 (00:44):
No, except for today, isn't that case? I got up
an hour and a half late.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
The days that I can sleep in, I wake up,
you know, bright eyed, and I want to sleep, but
I can't.
Speaker 3 (00:54):
Push detail too.
Speaker 1 (00:55):
I notice soup wushy tailed. Yeah. And the days that
I have to get up, I'm tired. What is that?
What's that all about? What times do you get up
during the.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
Week, Usually between five thirty and six.
Speaker 1 (01:06):
Okay, I'm I'm four thirty to five thirty, yeah, depending, Yeah,
and John's up at two am at least this last week.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
Yeah, And you know what I mean. It's it's one
of those things when you get in that natural cycle
of waking up.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
Oh, it's a cycle.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
But as long as, like you say, you wake up
and you're rested, it's good to go. But when you
wake up and you just feel you could sleep longer,
it's frustrating.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
That's the frustration. But you have to get up. Yeah.
So anyway, anyway, we are here, We got up, and
we're here and looking at the Facebook live people are
up and ready to go, and I'm want to welcome
those on Bisstalk Radio thank you.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
You know, and then back to this sleep thing real quick.
Is you know the whole daylight savings thing. You know,
they talk about how it's taking a mental toll on people,
you know, and should we do away with Daylight's eight.
Speaker 3 (01:50):
That's what hit me today.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
It's I really do think it's a true thing, because
when it's dark and you're trying to wake up, yeah,
it is not as fun as when the sun is out.
It's time to wake out.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
Although I've been getting up early for so long. On
the rare occasion when I get up, I look outside
and it's light out. You're you're you you you don't
know what to do. You're like, I slept in. It's nune, man,
it's six fifteen. I slept in, you know. Anyway, That's okay,
John made it. We're here, ready to go. We do
have a guest today. You have briefly touch upon that.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
Yeah, So Brian Briganti is an author Gardening with Abundance,
and we're gonna be talking about your your vegetable gardens
that you're probably planting right now or thinking about planting animals,
and not only just the vegetable garden, but also the
idea that you know, you want to share that vegetable
garden with your friends, your family, your community.
Speaker 3 (02:44):
So yeah, I want to let our listeners know something
because I'm still not convinced that I fixed the problem.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
Yeah, but.
Speaker 3 (02:53):
Some people got the newsletter yesterday a little bit later
than they normally would, and I I accidentally deleted the
list of subscribers to our newsletter, and I think I
finally recovered it. But if you're out there and you
did not get the newsletter this week. My apologies, and
if you just send me a note to Johnagardanamerica dot com,
(03:16):
I'll put you back on the.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
Do we want to I don't know if I should
open up this can of worms or not. I don't know.
Anybody who's not a subscriber to the newsletter. Go to
our website and try to sign up for the newsletter.
Garden America dot com went into that. You wouldn't. It's
too late. It's already out there. Yeah, it's already out there.
It's already he opened.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
The cans are out, they're all over the table.
Speaker 1 (03:37):
We just want to make sure that the floor works,
or or we find out that it doesn't work. Anyway,
Garden America dot com, go to the website. Do what
you need to do. I thought yesterday do something.
Speaker 3 (03:47):
Maybe this is a good opportunity to see if anybody
even notices you, maybe we don't need to put out
a newsletter.
Speaker 1 (03:56):
Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
Well, a lot of people comment on the news photos,
like the articles.
Speaker 1 (04:02):
It's a good enough newsletter that we do need to
find out. Good enough.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
No, I mean I mean like enough, like it's it's good.
We should probably we did a survey is.
Speaker 3 (04:13):
Probably an old saying that Tiger wouldn't have heard. When
we were growing up, they'd always say good enough for
government work.
Speaker 1 (04:22):
Oh yeah, I kind of remember that. Yeah, I was
going to say, last year, we did a survey and
it what's what's the term passes muster? What is that?
Speaker 2 (04:31):
Yes, muster musters on ships, right, yeah, muster.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
So we we know we've got that going for us.
Speaker 3 (04:42):
I always thought that it was passing mustard passes mustard pasta.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
Is that like when when I was a kid, I
thought his name was red Skeleton. I thought the same
to that, not skeleton. What do you mean It's not skeleton? No,
it's skeleton.
Speaker 3 (04:59):
Okay, no one corrected me until I was an I'd.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
Like to look at Tiger to see his brain working.
Peter doesn't.
Speaker 3 (05:05):
I don't know who read Skelton.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
Is Nope, not a comedian name before but forties, fifties radio,
sixties TV. Yeah, I've got to clear my throat. But
I don't want a nice guy. I gotta say I
turned up micro painted clowns.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
Hey, so John, Yeah, you you've actually had some very
misty days. Right in the mornings, you wake up and
his wet outside.
Speaker 3 (05:27):
You know, I came to San Diego Wednesday. You know
it was raining down here.
Speaker 1 (05:33):
Yeah, we had rain.
Speaker 3 (05:34):
Yeah, I don't think I got any I.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
Mean, and for those of you listening in other parts of.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
The world, the world and raine a big deal.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
Here, well, it wasn't rain. It was like a very
thick cloud that produced droplets of water as you walked
through it.
Speaker 1 (05:53):
Kind of a thing, right, because I.
Speaker 3 (05:54):
Mean I couldn't drive without my yeahshield wipe person.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
But I mean, you know other people have rain because
it actually falls from the sky and lands on the ground.
Speaker 1 (06:05):
And is that what.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
We drive through clouds and consider it rain?
Speaker 1 (06:10):
No, it's it's yeah, it's rains here is usually front
page news.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
But but I like that the soil is staving.
Speaker 1 (06:16):
Damn.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
That's the biggest thing is that the plants are loving it,
because then when it is sunny in the afternoon, things
just look really just sharp.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
By the way, I brought an outside palm into the
house last week. I wanted something live in there. Yeah,
so I brought it in, looked at it and it
had at the bottom, you know, all these old husks.
It's kind of dirty. I cut everything back so I've
got the mainstalks HB one oh one malorganite, and then
so I watered it. So of course the dirty water
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goes down the lark doesn't in your house hold on
you drimping ahead of me. Okay, this isn't as bad
as bias all so anyway, but malorganite got the HB
one o one, gave it some attention, put some decorative
rocks in it. Last night we're watching TV. Dane is
by the couch next to where the palm is. She goes,
what's that smell? Yeah? I go, I smell anything. She goes,
(07:09):
come over here. I go, oh, that's the palm. I'm
very matter of fact, it's the palm. Yeah, well, what
what's going on? I go, a little bit of fertilizer.
The water is a bit dirty now, HB one on one,
it'll it'll go away. Oh you sure that's what it is.
That's what it is. Yes, that's what it is. We've
got to give it time to settle.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
So Ryan wasn't trying to cover up something else. Can't
blame the cat for that one.
Speaker 3 (07:31):
Yeah, I was gonna say that the cats weren't attracted.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
To Oh though, one our one senior cat who's basically
every day. We don't know if it's the last day
of his life. Every day is he's hanging in there, Yeah,
he's like because he's obsessed. He wants to go outside
and he wants to eat grass, anything leaves. And yes,
the other night Dana had to put pillows in a
blanket around the bottom of the palm because he was
in there. And that's one reason why I cut everything back,
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as well as aesthetically and just the health of the tree.
But that's why we don't have live plants in the house.
But I wanted at least one.
Speaker 2 (08:04):
You know how they have those I don't know what
they call a scratch catch cat scratch poles.
Speaker 1 (08:10):
We have a huge one, yeah, where they have like
the little rooms and stuff.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
It'd be really cool if somebody got like a nice
size Fiddley fig or some kind of fike us.
Speaker 3 (08:22):
Right.
Speaker 2 (08:22):
Can you imagine if they were able to put those
in an actual tree rather than having it be like
this standalone or.
Speaker 1 (08:29):
Just yeah it's a scratching post, but a tree. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
But I'm just saying, like a real life, real live one,
because I mean, you know, I mean, you know, obviously
you can make one out of a fake tree or whatever.
But I'd be really neat to have. I don't have
any cats, but if I had a cat, I think
I would definitely get like a good size indoor tree
and then make it where my cat can kind of
go into it. And then you look up there and
(08:52):
it's if your cat's black, it's like a panther, you.
Speaker 1 (08:56):
Know, little jungle scene.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
Yeah, it'd be awesome.
Speaker 3 (09:01):
Our buddy Kevin and card Aline says someday we might
see the top ten greatest quotes from the newsletter. Yeah,
that that's supposed to.
Speaker 1 (09:13):
Yeah, well, see last week we waited. You know what.
We used to do it twice. We'd do it like
at the beginning of the show and then the second hour.
Last week we didn't do it until the middle of
the show, which was good because some people tune in late.
Let's do it for the first time this morning and
then in about a minute break.
Speaker 3 (09:30):
Or did we just do it on different days?
Speaker 1 (09:32):
We did it twice because we'd open up the second hour.
We're back on the radio. We when we had two hours.
Speaker 3 (09:38):
I don't remember that at all.
Speaker 1 (09:41):
But you remember what you had for breakfast this morning? Yes?
Nothing base nothing is something toothpaste. Anyway, we got about
a minute quote of the week, John.
Speaker 3 (09:50):
Nothing is something that's a quote that I'll use someday.
Speaker 1 (09:57):
Tiger Pellafox, twenty twenty five.
Speaker 3 (10:01):
The quote, Brian is never doubt that a small group
of thoughtful, committed citizens can change the world. Indeed, it's
the only thing that ever has. I was from Margaret Meade,
a social anthropologist.
Speaker 1 (10:17):
Right yep, oh Margo. All right, break time. We're gonna
get a hold of our guest. So when the camera's on,
you'll probably see me on the phone. John and Tiger
are going to talk amongst themselves. Those on Bistalk Radio, Welcome,
this is Garden America Facebook Live. Do stay with us.
I'm Brian Main, John Bcnasco, Tiger Palafox. Happy weekend, Garden America.
Continues after these messages in a phone call to our
(10:39):
guest BIS Talk Radio Facebook Live. Okay, just like that,
we are back, and I say, just like that a
bit quicker break on Facebook Live. Those on bistalk Radio,
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our major sponsor. We're going to get Fertilom on the
air here in the next well the not too distant future,
talk about various products, because fertilome does a lot more
than just fertilize. So that said Tiger John, We're gonna
(11:02):
go to our guest right now. Brian is standing by
Tiger as we kick things off on this Saturday morning.
If you're listening to us live.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
Yeah, this morning we have author and gardner Brian Briganti
from Tennessee, but from New York to Tennessee with his
partner where they were able to uh uh set roots
and start their own little homestead out there. Brian, thank
you for joining us this morning.
Speaker 4 (11:25):
Hi, thanks for having me. I'm excited to be here.
Speaker 1 (11:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
So so, Brian, You've got a fun path as far
as you know coming from New York to Tennessee. But
I mean, you know, it didn't you didn't start in
New York. You know, growing up in Chicago, you kind
of had this draw to the earth, to nature, to gardening,
you know, but then you know, going through city life
for so long, what was one of the biggest change
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or what was one of the biggest surprises going from
New York to Tennessee that you you when you when
you got to where you're gonna live there you're like, Wow,
I'm not in New York anymore.
Speaker 4 (12:04):
Well, the first thing I noticed when I first set
foot on this property was just how quiet it was
and how many birds there were, Like I remember hearing
so many different kinds of birds, just like giving me
a symphony, almost like they were welcoming me here. Definitely
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unlike the car horns or the trains on the tracks,
or the loud subways. It was just such a different
quiet and peace that I never really experienced living in
a city. And funny enough, it was kind of hard
to adjust to the quiet, you know, growing up in Chicago,
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I also lived in San Francisco. Living in New York City,
I was so conditioned to just like be on the
go all the time that suddenly, with all this this
this quiet, all this solitude, all this time that I
suddenly had, it was kind of hard to adjust to
just being able to exist and be without having to
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be doing something all the time. And I was always
fighting with myself and like feeling guilty for like not
doing something, but realizing that that was actually that should
be our default as humans, to like just allow ourselves
to be and to exist without this like this overwhelming
pressure to constantly be doing something to feel fulfilled, you know. Yeah,
(13:31):
And you know it's funny that kind of threw me
for a loop.
Speaker 2 (13:34):
Yeah, you know, I mean, I mean I think that
that's a big thing that people don't realize, is that
how much it will affect you, because you know what
I mean. You know, when coming from a city, and
whether it's a big city or medium sized city, there
is that that noise, that hum, you know, that distant siren,
distant car horn that you just always hear, right, and
then you know, going into a rural area where you
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don't have that, it takes a minute to get a
cut something.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
So quiet it's loud. Well it's a loud quiet Yeah.
Speaker 3 (14:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (14:04):
I friends or people visit, they're like, actually kind of
freaked out by how quiet it is.
Speaker 1 (14:09):
Yeah, it's like you're waiting for something to happen.
Speaker 2 (14:11):
Yes, I get scared, like I do.
Speaker 4 (14:14):
You can hear a pin drop.
Speaker 1 (14:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:16):
So so that is funny that you mentioned it, because
I don't think I don't think people kind of always
remember that, But that is definitely something I think that
people ever that come from a city to a rural area. Yeah,
you know that that is something that is very true. Well,
well you're adjusted now, right, so you know you're.
Speaker 4 (14:33):
Time I leave, or like I visit a city, or
I'm just traveling. I crave the quiet.
Speaker 2 (14:38):
Yeah, it's probably deafening, you know, to you there now,
it's like, oh my god.
Speaker 4 (14:43):
Yeah, yeah, subways feel really unnatural.
Speaker 1 (14:46):
Now, oh that's funny.
Speaker 2 (14:49):
Well, well, you know gardening, you know your passion, you know,
growing food primarily your author of Growing Growing with Abundant
And you know what inspired you to write that book.
Speaker 4 (15:05):
Well, just for a little bit of context, I didn't
grow up gardening. I always had like a deep love
for the natural world, but you know, growing up in
a city, I never really had a means of like
really immersing myself in it. So when I moved to
the countryside back in twenty nineteen, I suddenly had all
this time and space. And when the pandemic hit, there
(15:26):
was this huge uncertainty of like what our food system
was going to look like. So I started gardening and
growing food for the first time ever in my life
and fell so deeply in love with it, and I
started sharing it on social media and it just like
blew up and took off, and I saw this like
deep need and desire from people to learn how to
(15:49):
grow food, to connect with the natural world, to learn
about the food system. So with this sudden platform that
I had, I really took it upon myself to teach people,
you know, how to grow and to be excited and
inspire to connect with the natural world and really share
it in a way that was like friendly and warm
and digestible and not so scary and overwhelming because learning
(16:12):
how to guard and there's so much to take in.
So funny enough, in the midst of all that happening,
Page Street Publishing actually reached out and asked me if
I wanted to write a book, and I thought, why not.
You know, when you get our platform is pretty big now,
like we have over three million followers collectively on our platforms.
(16:34):
Something I picked up on pretty quickly is people are
going to ask a lot of the same questions. Yeah,
just because there's so much engagement, it's like hard for
everyone and like, you know, keep up with what's being
talked about. But it actually worked in my favor because
I got to see like what people really needed, what
people really wanted to learn, or what the most common
(16:54):
questions were. So I used a lot of that to
inform the information that went into this book. And yes, now,
anytime anyone asked me for hey, do you have any
tips for a beginner, or like what's the best way
to start as a gardener, Like, I just direct him
to my book because it's literally everything that I think
a beginner needs to learn how to grow.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
That's that's great description and a great way to put it,
because you know, being in this industry, you know, gardening podcast,
radio shows, you know, your books and all this other
stuff you do learn them that you know, people do
ask the same question over, oh what tomato should I plant?
Speaker 1 (17:30):
How do I pune a rose? You know all these.
Speaker 2 (17:33):
Things, and as people are doing this, we kind of
forget that, you know, this is their first time. They're
excited about it. They want to do the best possible,
you know. Job, I was at a customer's house yesterday,
Brian and I planted a citrustreet form.
Speaker 1 (17:50):
And the reason why.
Speaker 2 (17:51):
I the reason why he paid me to come out
and plant this citrustreet for him is because he did
it already and he failed, and so he was like
I want, I want, you know, so so afterwards, I
think it took me thirty five minutes to plant it.
Speaker 1 (18:07):
Yeah, I was there for an hour and a half.
What did he do wrong? Just off the top here, Yeah,
you know what went wrong with it?
Speaker 2 (18:13):
So for him going, I think what it was was,
you know, the watering and and this kind of comes
up to a lot of things. But you know, the
Citsterustreet is like those deep infrequent waterings, and he just
had like a drip system running five minutes, three times
a week, and so I just think he wasn't getting
enough water eventually enough. Yeah, hey, hey, Brian, We're gonna
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have to pause for a quick break. When we get back,
we'll continue chatting with Brian Briganti about the edible gardens
that we're gonna be planting here pretty soon. And you
know his other platforms that he uses to teach people.
Speaker 1 (18:49):
And those on Facebook Live questions comments, if you get
any questions at all, let us know. John is monitoring
very closely Facebook Live this morning, so we'll keep that
up those on Bistalk Radio. Gonna take a break, big
thank and O for the loan Garden America. We continue.
It's the weekend. I'm Brian Maine. Brian's our guest taker,
Pela Fox, John Beg Nasco, as we say, used to
say and still say back after these messages, but whose
(19:12):
messages find out on biz Talk Radio. All right, we
are back. Hope you enjoyed that break, This breaks for you.
All right, Garden America, we continue, and Yes, Edible Gardens
Gardening Brian's our guest this morning and talker. We're going
to continue because a lot of interest this morning, talk
about his book, how we got started, and we'll go
from there. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:32):
I just want to let our listeners know and people
that are listening to this via radio right now, that
I did post a link to Brian's book, Gardening for Abundance.
Speaker 1 (19:44):
On our Facebook.
Speaker 2 (19:44):
It's on our Facebook comus right now, so to be
able to purchase his book or be able to kind
of look into the book.
Speaker 1 (19:50):
You know, Brian, you know one of the things.
Speaker 2 (19:52):
That I talked to you about earlier this week that
I really want to kind of dive into is I
love this concept and I don't think we've ever talked
about it on this program before, but you have this
sense of community and that you want to create. Tell
us a little bit about kind of your vision that
you would like to you know, there's gardening for abundance
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this gardening for community. What's your vision there?
Speaker 4 (20:16):
Yeah, absolutely well. I think one of the greatest joys
of growing so much abundance is being able to share
it with your community, your friends, your loved ones. Right,
And something I learned very early on in gardening is
a garden thrives in community. The more that you introduce
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into a space, the more biodivert a garden is, the
more likely it is to thrive. It really built, takes
on a life of its own, and you build an
ecosystem where where everything works together to thrive and grow abundance.
So I feel like that's a really great reflection of
like us as humans and like how we should collectively
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come together to cultivate that abundance. But I feel like
my mindset this year in particular, versus the last few
years that were very experimental as I was learning how
to grow and garden. This year, I'm very focused on
growing more abundance than ever, but not necessarily just for myself,
but with community and for my community. One of the
(21:21):
most common questions I get on social media, or not
necessarily a question, but a comment, is people don't have
access to space or they're growing on their balcony or
all they have is their apartment. So something I really
want to urge people to do is to come together
as community this year and actively seek out spaces where
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they can come together to grow abundance. You know, I
have a lot of followers that a lot of my
audiences are based in more urban settings, and I can
speak from my experience living in Brooklyn, New York. I
knew so many people who had a little, maybe like
ten by sixteen backyard and they weren't doing anything with it.
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And you know, gardening is such an overwhelming thing. There's
so much to learn, so much to take on, especially
as an individual. So I feel like rallying up some friends,
some family, some community to hackle the task of a
garden will alleviate a lot of the stresses that come
with it, make it a lot more enjoyable, and you
get to share and reap the benefits of all that
(22:24):
abundance with with the people you care about. Yeah, I think, now,
especially with like how overwhelming the world is feeling, we
need community now more than ever, and what better place
to cultivate it than a garden.
Speaker 2 (22:36):
And you know, it's so funny because, like you say,
there's the people that have meaning you know, they have
the space, but maybe they just don't have the drive
or the knowledge, like you're say, like to actually do
it themselves. But then there's also the have not where
there are the people that want to garden that then
love the idea of it, that have had experience it,
but now they move to an area where they can't
(22:57):
they don't have the space. And so it's almost like
connecting those two, you know, two types of people, is
what you know you're trying to do there now now
I'm throwing it out there, Brian, into the world right now.
I mean, who would who would have thought fifteen years
ago that we would hop into a stranger's car and
they would we would pay for them, pay them to
(23:17):
take us place to someplace. Who would have thought ten
years ago that that uh, that that we would be
going into other people's backyards and using their swimming pools
or using their homes to stay while we vacation somewhere else.
Speaker 1 (23:30):
I think, I think we gotta. I think we gotta.
Speaker 2 (23:33):
I think we've got an Airbnb for gardens right now
where you can connect. I think, yeah, you know, we
have the people that have the yard and say hey,
I just can't do it or I don't know it.
I'm inviting people to come into my yard and we're
gonna plant, and we're gonna garden, and we're gonna cultivate.
Speaker 1 (23:50):
Something, and the next person that comes in rips it
out and does their own thing. Yeah, hey, you know,
it just is a thing.
Speaker 2 (23:55):
But like you know, I mean, you know it is
true though, because who would have thought, sure fifteen twenty
years ago that we would be hopping into some stranger's
car and say, hey, will you take me to the airport?
Speaker 1 (24:04):
Hey hey, Brian, let me ask you this, going back
to Okay, here comes a bad cliche, going back to
your roots here. So you're getting into gardening, so on
and so forth. Do you remember the first thing that
you grew, the very first thing that you grew, and
that was.
Speaker 4 (24:20):
I will never forget it. It was kale Kale. I
planted kale. But more specifically, what I remember, like what
screams out at me every time I'm in the garden,
and just like the moment that really solidified, like, oh,
this is what I meant to be doing, was literally
breaking ground for the first time when I moved here
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and feeling the dirt in my.
Speaker 1 (24:45):
Hand there you go.
Speaker 4 (24:46):
Yeah, and like as it was crumbling in my hands,
I caught a whiff of it. I smelled the dirt,
I smelled the earth, and I literally, I kid you not.
I got a flashback when I was a kid in Chicago.
I was kid that was flipping rocks over, looking for
bugs underneath, playing in what little dirt I had access to.
(25:07):
And it made me so emotional in that moment. It
literally felt like a homecoming. Yeah, and after you know,
from a child and then having all this this life
experience in the city and life is kind of carrying
me and taking me on this wild ride. Being able
to experience and feel that in that moment, at that
stage in my life, it was exactly what I needed
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at the time. Didn't even know that's what I needed.
And that's really kind of what's solidified it. This this
is where I'm meant to be. This is where I'm
supposed to be, in the middle of nowhere, Tennessee, of
all places, but like, this is what I'm supposed to
be doing.
Speaker 1 (25:42):
What are you closest to? What city your town are
you closest to That would be a major, major town yeah.
Speaker 4 (25:49):
We're about an hour and a half southeast of Nashville.
Speaker 1 (25:51):
Okay, okay, yep, nice.
Speaker 2 (25:53):
Yeah, so close enough to have some fun, but also.
Speaker 4 (25:59):
From a distance. Yeah, she's there whenever we need her.
But I can have my piece and quiet here.
Speaker 3 (26:06):
I'm still trying to get over planning kale as the.
Speaker 4 (26:09):
First I fell in love with kale.
Speaker 3 (26:13):
But you you.
Speaker 1 (26:13):
Actually enjoyed eating it.
Speaker 3 (26:15):
You did it on phone, My god, Yeah, you did
it on purpose.
Speaker 4 (26:20):
I will mention it like it wasn't like a perfect experience,
like I planted my kale and I actually killed it.
Speaker 1 (26:30):
Welcome to the club.
Speaker 4 (26:31):
But you know, I didn't let that stop me from
like planting more pale and how to properly grow kale
and having that experience when you fail, when you mess up,
and then you finally get that gratification of like doing
it right. It is so filling.
Speaker 1 (26:46):
Yeah, you know what it is.
Speaker 4 (26:47):
It's still something, y'all. Don't give up.
Speaker 1 (26:49):
You know what, Brian, it's the same. Here's the analogy.
If somebody gives you money and you spend it, it's
one thing. But when you had to earn the money
and spend it, that's different because you put your blood,
sweat and tears into it exactly, and it always tastes
better and the.
Speaker 4 (27:02):
Garden is like the best place to feel that.
Speaker 1 (27:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (27:05):
And you know, with this idea of community and specifically
with edibles, is you know, you can share that. And
and I think that is one thing that all gardeners
want to do, is is it is I've never shared
your success. Yeah, I've never met a gardener that was like,
it's all for me. I'm just gonna talk at all
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to myself, like I'm you know, they they are always
wanting to bring it in share, you know, they want
to bring in what they made with it, you know,
whether it's like a lemon pie or you know, a
meal or a dish or a salad, and they say, oh,
it's you know, it's from my garden.
Speaker 3 (27:43):
But there's a difference between doing that.
Speaker 4 (27:45):
It's such a flex like, oh, I agree that there's
a difference.
Speaker 3 (27:50):
Between doing that, tiger, and between and uh putting the
bag of zucchini on the stuff running already, Yeah, really.
Speaker 1 (28:02):
You know.
Speaker 2 (28:02):
And then and then I mean, even think about how
many public gardens we have today because they were private
gardens of someone in the past.
Speaker 3 (28:13):
You know, I mean when you know that.
Speaker 1 (28:15):
You know, there's so many in your and you're like.
Speaker 2 (28:17):
The roof Bancroft bankrupt, that was that, you know, the
the Huntington that was their house lotus, you.
Speaker 1 (28:26):
Know, yeah, you know.
Speaker 4 (28:27):
I mean so Clare in Pennsylvania and I believe was
a private garden.
Speaker 1 (28:34):
They just want to share what they did.
Speaker 2 (28:36):
I mean, there's there's a place over here, Brian, up
near Morgan Hill. I think it's in Gilroy and they
call it Gilroy Gardens. So they did call it Gilroy
Gardens for a while. But this guy was so into
creating trees that were like in like basket basket shapes
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or it was.
Speaker 1 (28:57):
A chair furniture, furniture.
Speaker 2 (29:01):
Like so you're sitting in a bush that's share you know,
Like yeah, but it's so amazing. But I mean that
took him generations to do. You know, it's not something
that happens overnight. Hey, we got to take another break.
When we get back, we'll continue chatting with Brian about gardening.
Speaker 1 (29:17):
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Coast and you can be part of the action, questions, comments,
so on, and so forth. Tiger, As we continue with Brian.
Speaker 3 (30:07):
Hey Tiger, did we find out how big Brian's current
garden is?
Speaker 1 (30:11):
No? Not yet? Yeah, Brian out in Tennessee. What's going on? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (30:17):
Funny enough?
Speaker 1 (30:17):
What's your address?
Speaker 4 (30:18):
First started to like learn how to garden? You know,
one of the most common things I saw online start
small BaseT.
Speaker 1 (30:25):
Oh yeah, and.
Speaker 4 (30:27):
We did not she went full fourth. We dived headfirst
into everything we possibly could. We built, like I believe
we have sixteen beds in the space we're working and
it's about five thousand square feet. Wow, that I'm growing
the vegetable garden at least. My partner is also an
avid gardener, but he focuses more on like landscaping and
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ornamental gardens. He also has a carnivorous plant nursery. There's
just a lot. There's a lot happening here and I
really love that you mentioned how you know a lot
of these like big gardens that we have now started
as like a private garden and expand it to something public.
That is very much what we have in mind and
like a big part of the vision here at Redley.
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We would love love to create a botanical garden here
really in the heart of Tennessee. We were smack dab
in central Tennessee and there's just so much beauty that
can be cultivated here that we would love to share.
Speaker 1 (31:21):
Okay, John, you gut some questions. We want to get
to here a.
Speaker 3 (31:23):
Couple well, Rick in star Idaho, Okay, had a question
about what Brian was, how he was preparing the beds
before he planted, and what type of products he's using.
Is he using fertilizers, he using mulch, composts?
Speaker 1 (31:43):
And then my question is to piggyback that question, Brian,
would be what kind of natural soil do we find
in Tennessee, Nashville, et cetera.
Speaker 4 (31:51):
Oh, okay, so I'll start with the natural soil here.
We have really dense red clay, something I never really
experience or saw before moving here. But honestly, I think
it's just I think it's a really wonderful soil. I
feel like it gets a bad rep but things actually
can grow really well in it. But in order for vegetables,
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like there is some amendment that needs to happen to
like make sure they really thrive. We have a lot
of raided bed gardens here in the vegetable garden, and
our soil mixes comprise of it was a mix we
got from a local horticulture center called more Ends, and
it's peats, a little bit of wood chips, pearlite. But
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then we take it a step further and we actually
make our own composts here. So we love to throw
in composts, worm castings as well, worm castings as like
our black gold. We love it so much. And this
year in particular, we've actually gotten into the practice of
throwing some sand in there, because something I've learned over
the years is how quickly you know, these materials in
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a garden that can break down. And sand is a
really nice dish, and especially for raised beds because it
adds some more of that like structure, that math, and
it does not break down. It takes much much much
longer person to have to breakdown, so it holds a
lot more of that structural integrity while also adding the
benefit of drainage in a bed, which can be very
beneficial in the race beds. So yeah, yeah, right, there's
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a lot going on in that soil.
Speaker 2 (33:22):
And and you know, Brian, you're not just an author,
you know, like we were, there's a lot of medias
that you try to share this concept with, right, so
get you give her, give her a listeners. So, what
are some platforms that you tend to share this information across.
Speaker 4 (33:41):
Yeah, our main platform is TikTok, but this year we've
definitely broken into YouTube. We also share on a Instagram.
I say those three are really like the main platforms
that that we share on. But I personally have a
deep love and appreciation for TikTok because that's kind of where,
(34:01):
you know, our store was able to be shared on
a platform much larger than anything we could have ever imagined.
So yeah, TikTok is kind of where the heart of
our content creation.
Speaker 2 (34:11):
Is, and so you know, there you share your kind
of how to videos and information kind of thing.
Speaker 4 (34:17):
Yeah, I share. I share so many tips and tricks
on how to grow. I love sharing the actual harvests
that happened in the garden, what we cook with the harvest.
Funny enough, I mean, I'm sure if you go check
out our content, something you're going to notice very early on,
very quickly is I love to say the word abundant
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if you haven't noticed, come from the title of my books.
But funny enough, everything that's kind of happened and transpired
has really been because of our community. You know, it's
kind of all manifested on its own because of what
I see my community wants, and abundance was very much
a part of it. In the beginning, when all of
this kind of started happening. I shared a harvest very
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early on, and at the end of the harvest, at
the end of the video, I was like look at
this beautiful basket. Look at all that abundance. A few
days later, I shared another harvest video and I didn't
say abundance at the end of that video, and people
were so pressed and they were like, we were so
waiting for that abundance at the end of the video.
So that's kind of when I knew, like, oh, there's
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like there's something much bigger than just gardening happening here.
There's like a yeah, a vibe happening, honestly. So now
abundance has really become kind of like the ethos of
what we do here and how we create content.
Speaker 2 (35:35):
Red Leaf Ranch is your guys is thaying I'm going
to share that link to that website too, because I
mean it's a great spot to get kind of a
lot more information about who you are and what you're doing.
Speaker 1 (35:45):
Right.
Speaker 4 (35:45):
Yes, yes, absolutely, we have all the links there, We
have the book links there. I also do a little
scattered throughout, but I do do some blog posts. I
share the garden plan of the year so people can
see what we're growing, are growing it. Yeah, that's a
really cool stuff on the website.
Speaker 1 (36:03):
Beautiful.
Speaker 2 (36:04):
Yeah, So I'm sharing that right now. Brian Lots of
good information, so so fun to just chat. And you know,
I love your your idea of creating a community, you know,
within your own backyard for people and inviting people over
because you know, we we work together really well. And
so you know, thank you very much for joining us
this weekend, and and I hope you have a great
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rest of the weekend and do some gardeners.
Speaker 4 (36:27):
Thank you so much. Yeah, it's early spring here in Tennessee.
Speaker 1 (36:30):
It is.
Speaker 4 (36:30):
I'm gonna be outside in gardening. I'm so excited. I'm ready.
Speaker 1 (36:34):
All right, you take care, have a good weekend. Thank you, Brian,
A good one. Garden with abundance. There you go. I'm
gonna He didn't mention this directly. I'm gonna guess in
terms of his soil, he said it was ray red
red soil clay like red Georgia clay, the red clay soil.
(36:55):
He's got clay soil because Georgia, Tennessee, same basic region
around that area, so bright red Georgia clay. There was
a song John knows this song, but I remember to
this day.
Speaker 3 (37:08):
That's one of the worst soils to grow.
Speaker 1 (37:11):
Yeah. Really, oh yeah, you have to feed it continue,
you have to put nutrains in it all the time, right,
and you.
Speaker 3 (37:17):
Have to watch the water. Yeah, stuff can so it's
worse than ours, our soils probably the yes. Yeah, really
we're gotta take it because the drains really well and
you can out organic material.
Speaker 1 (37:29):
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John mixed John's headspind Go ahead, Tiger. I'm sorry.
Speaker 2 (37:52):
I think we just finished off the last spot with
some some fighting words for people. Because to clean, we
have the best soil. No, No, I know he needs
a clip, right, And I don't think he really thinks
out of everyone, we have the best.
Speaker 1 (38:06):
That's what we do here.
Speaker 2 (38:07):
But I'm sure I'm sure there's places that you know,
the people like no, we have the best soil, like no,
my soil is better than.
Speaker 1 (38:14):
Let's let's let's where, Yes, what is the optimal soil? Well,
no matter where you are.
Speaker 3 (38:21):
At valley where the Willamette Valley in Oregon, Oregon? You
know back east you have top soil, right, yeah, that
you can dig down, you know, six inches of foot
and you've got good top soil. We don't have top
soil in California, but in the Wilamotte Valley, their top
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soil is thirty feet deep.
Speaker 1 (38:46):
So shovel.
Speaker 3 (38:50):
Thirty feet deep.
Speaker 1 (38:51):
You just use a shovel. Yeah, no, no, no digging bar. No,
you never run out of good soil because you could
shovel that feet away, another fifteen feet away.
Speaker 3 (39:01):
And then Alaska with its remember Alaska humus. We used
to bring it right.
Speaker 1 (39:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (39:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (39:07):
Didn't you go up to Alaska one time? Years ago?
You went to a show, didn't you know?
Speaker 3 (39:12):
I gave a talk talk that's right at the University
of Alaska in Fairbanks and January nice.
Speaker 1 (39:20):
How about that. That's before Airbnb's that's before Facebook social media.
So you were isolated. Tell us the polar bear story
that I love that story.
Speaker 3 (39:32):
There were no polar bears, oh that you knew on
the trip. Well, actually you couldn't see them because it
was white, white everywhere you look.
Speaker 1 (39:40):
You know that polar bears aren't really white. That's just
a reflection. Seriously, Yeah, they're really blue. No, they're not white.
I want you to google that.
Speaker 3 (39:49):
Oh it's icebergs. I was thinking, what are they then clear?
Speaker 1 (39:52):
They're like No, I think they're dark. I think there's
something with the snow in the way the sun and
the snow reflects you for the snowblindness. Right, Yeah, it's
not that, but it's the fact that that that their
fur and their environment makes them appear totally white.
Speaker 3 (40:03):
Well, nothing surprises me anymore. But they used to have
polar bears at the Detroit Zoo and we'd see them
in the middle of summer and they were white.
Speaker 1 (40:13):
Brand yeah, yeah, well that's Detroit.
Speaker 3 (40:18):
Oh oh okay, Hey, we have a question, a few
questions we should answer. One is from John in Newport Beach,
all right, and he's putting in a square foot garden
and he had noticed in a previous newsletter patiostar zucchini
for small spaces and he can't find the seeds anywhere.
(40:42):
And John, it's sometimes that seed sold under another name
which is easier to find, and it's asked the as
tia and I think Renees Garden has it. And if
you Google asked THEA as t I A A seed,
you'll find the compact zucchini perfect.
Speaker 2 (41:05):
And let's good luck on that square foot gardener. I mean,
have you ever done that, John the square foot? I mean,
you know you haven't had a need to, but have
you ever just done it to kind of like try
it out?
Speaker 3 (41:18):
I don't know if I ever had a need to
wanted the first garden in Detroit. We lived on a
forty foot lot. Okay, so you know that's from one
end to the other. There was a garage in the
back of the house, and then back of the garage
was was a garden that I remember every year going
(41:42):
with my dad to the local nursery to buy they
would have They didn't have plastic back then, so all
the seats were in seed flats. All the plants were
in seed flats, and they would cut out how many
you wanted, and every year I would beg them, can
we get watermelon? No, we don't have room for watermelon,
(42:06):
but yeah, you would get tomatoes and we'd say we
grew tomatoes, onions, peppers, carrots, radishes, lettuce, parsley, all in
that spot, all in that little area behind the garage.
Speaker 1 (42:21):
So it was just flowing out. Probably would you like
to hear my polar bear her story.
Speaker 3 (42:28):
Still, only because I know it'll make you feel better.
Speaker 1 (42:30):
Polar bear is appear white, but their fur is actually
translucent and hollow, and your skin is black. I risk
my case, your honor. I told you they're clear.
Speaker 3 (42:41):
Do you know that Brian's shirt is actually pink.
Speaker 1 (42:46):
But in this studio? Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 3 (42:50):
Isn't all color have to do with light reflection.
Speaker 1 (42:54):
Or lack of light? Yes? Yes it is. Now that's said. That,
that's said. We all know that John is.
Speaker 3 (43:01):
Color blind, not color blind.
Speaker 1 (43:05):
What are you color challenged?
Speaker 3 (43:07):
Yes? Maybe? Yeah, yeah, but there's color plast stells that
I have trouble with, right, that's okay.
Speaker 2 (43:13):
But but that's just because he chooses not to acknowledge him,
not because he can't see him.
Speaker 3 (43:18):
No, And you know they have color correct and glasses. Now, yeah,
and I a world, huh, I have a pair, and
I put him on so I can see what it
is the difference between what I normally perceive as color
and whatever the glasses say the.
Speaker 1 (43:34):
True how is that experience?
Speaker 3 (43:36):
It's not that much difference. No, but with the glasses
I can read a do the color blindness test and
get all the numbers right. Yeah with what a world?
Yeah with the Without the glasses, I only get eighty
percent correct, so I've got maybe twenty percent past.
Speaker 1 (43:56):
I remember biology class in tenth grade they did that.
They had colors. Okay, class, what number do you see there?
And I think maybe, like a few people, I don't
see any number. Oh you should see seventy six? Yeah,
and they're like, oh, you're color blind. Huh.
Speaker 3 (44:10):
You know when I found out I was color blind?
Was that when I went down for my Army physical
and they asked me to read it. They thought I
was fake And I don't see any number. You're color blind?
Go over there?
Speaker 1 (44:25):
Four? Is that four? F?
Speaker 4 (44:27):
No?
Speaker 3 (44:28):
They didn't care.
Speaker 1 (44:29):
Oh, they didn't care because they saw all people the same.
Speaker 3 (44:33):
Yeah. Well, I could make some comments, know, and I'm
not going to. Carla wanted to mention that she killed
another diffen Bakia help.
Speaker 1 (44:44):
Well, what Carlo, why would you do that? I thought
you loved plants.
Speaker 3 (44:47):
I thought you were loving Helen Keller five times I
told you that.
Speaker 1 (44:51):
You killed Helen Keller five times, five times.
Speaker 2 (44:54):
I don't think you were born diffen Bakia common, dumb kane.
Speaker 3 (44:59):
Zem kane. You know why it's called dumb cane.
Speaker 1 (45:02):
Why it's called dumb cane. Yeah, I got a few
jokes in my mind like you, but I'm gonna filter
it out and say no, John tell.
Speaker 3 (45:09):
Us, because of the is it oxalic acid crystals that
are in the leaves. If you chew on a leaf,
your tongue and you lose your power of speech. Right,
matter of fact, you could choke to.
Speaker 1 (45:21):
Death because your tongue would swallow up so much you
can't breathe. We did talk about that years ago.
Speaker 2 (45:26):
Now I will say with those one of the biggest
is your your your source of the plant. You know,
a lot of the come from box stores and chip
them from Florida, barely rooted in, and then you take
it home and it just dies. And it's because the
plant was never really like growing. It was never really growing,
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you know, because you can you know those plants they
could look beautiful.
Speaker 1 (45:54):
Just off of a cutting.
Speaker 3 (45:55):
Like a Christmas tree.
Speaker 2 (45:56):
Yeah, that's a great example. And if you brought home
your Christmas treat like, why does thing die?
Speaker 1 (46:03):
You know it's in a pot of soil.
Speaker 3 (46:04):
Well it looks great for a month.
Speaker 2 (46:05):
Yeah, exactly, No, that's just that's a great example of it. So,
you know, if you you got to be careful where
you get it from and make sure it's rooted. And
if it's not rooted, it takes a little extra care
than just keeping it in your house.
Speaker 3 (46:18):
The other two things are Diefenbakia need a lot of light.
And some people think that they're you know, they can
put it right without or not near a window. And
the other thing is there maybe because they're not rooted, tiger,
they're easy to overwater. Oh yeah, you need a really
well draining soil. As a matter of fact, if I
had a potting soil, I would probably add twenty percent
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per light to the soil or maybe some cactus mixed
to the soil.
Speaker 1 (46:44):
Different Bakia, you need a lot of light. It sounded
like that was the entire name of the species you
were giving. You need a lot of light. Yeah, different bug,
you need a lot of light.
Speaker 3 (46:55):
Maybe I'm not up yet, Brian, No, No, it's.
Speaker 1 (46:57):
I'm enjoying you this morning. I'm I'm happy to be
here with both of you. Yeah, but a couple of
minutes before the break, Tiger go ahead.
Speaker 2 (47:05):
I think the biggest challenge that people run into him
is is they they like what John said. They think,
because it's a house plant, it should take a lot
of water, it should be able to grow in a
living room with you know, the windows closed and all
this other stuff, and it's just not it's just not true.
They they they require, they require almost like a patio
(47:27):
or or like a garden in my sunroom or something
well into Yeah, oh man, it would thrive out there.
Speaker 1 (47:36):
I see, I see on my peripheral comments. Are we good?
Are we up to date? Here?
Speaker 3 (47:40):
I thought we were taking a break?
Speaker 2 (47:42):
Oh you know what, you might be right, John's taking
a break.
Speaker 1 (47:45):
That's good John. John is a cognizant of the reality
that surrounds him. We've got just less than a minute.
Speaker 2 (47:52):
Right, Well, John is cognizance.
Speaker 3 (47:54):
Great. Was mentioning that there's lots of river loam around
the South Cremento River before you get before shaft. The
dam was put in, and so the soils from what
was left behind are rich loam. And that's that's true
in a lot of riverbed areas either old river beds
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or you know, rivers that flood every year like the Nile. Right,
Their life in Egypt would never have existed without the.
Speaker 1 (48:25):
Night for the Nile. And we're going to take a
break from that note. All right, break time here. We've
got one, two, three more segments, a lot a lot
of show ahead of us, a lot of one way
still to come here in Garden in America taking a
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want to make sure we don't miss anybody, because every
question is important, every comment we take seriously.
Speaker 3 (48:51):
Our listeners are very observant. Tanya in San Jose points out,
isn't that one behind John one of the deep Yes exactly.
Speaker 1 (49:02):
Yeah, oh yeah. And it's thriving too. It's like I
watered it this morning when I plasticus yeah, speech plastic
of specie.
Speaker 2 (49:09):
Yes, Hey, we missed a question from Veronica. I bought
a I think we talked about this one before the
FIA fig And she's saying it's putting out leaves at
the base of it. Do I take them off in
hopes that it puts it out on top or just
leave them alone. So obviously the fig was dormant. Now
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it's starting to emerge out of dormancy. But rather than
the leaves being out of the top of the tips
of the branches where you normally see fig leaves emerge,
this is coming from the base.
Speaker 1 (49:41):
Do you have any thoughts?
Speaker 3 (49:43):
Yeah, I would not take the leaves off the bottom
because it's possible the top is dead, right I was gonnah,
But they're not grafted. Usually they're usually grown from cuttings.
So you could start new plants, but leave to the bottom.
Excuse me, leave the bottom ones on until the top
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does the leaf out. If the top never leaves out,
then you can cut it back and let the bottom
ones come up. But if the top does leaf off,
you can go ahead and cut the bottom ones at
that point. The bottom leaves now, as they come out,
are allowing the plant to photosynthesize and build up its
root systems. So the only thing I could think of
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is maybe trying to dribble water soluble food over the
stems and see if you can push the growth. Maybe
a liquid kelp. Yeah, put in a few drops of
HB one on one and just see what happens. You
can always take a knife and just scrape the bark
up near the top, and if it's still green, there's
a chance that'll leaf out.
Speaker 2 (50:46):
And I want to be clear what john said regarding normally,
you know, on a citrus or like a stone fruit,
we would say if it's coming out from the bottom,
that's not okay, because as he said, they're grafted, which
means that that tree on the top is no longer
alive and now the sucker, the rootstock material is now
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trying to grow and you might as well start over again.
But figs are not grafted, and there's not a I mean,
I'll say figs, pomegranates. You know, there's a series of
different fruiting trees that are not grafted, but for the
most part, a lot of them all are trees.
Speaker 3 (51:27):
Sometimes small fruits like blueberries.
Speaker 1 (51:31):
And yeaberries are not.
Speaker 2 (51:33):
So yeah, I think definitely leave the leaves out of
the bottom, and then like Johnson, monitor Carla, I appreciate
your story about the client with the orange tree. Miraculously,
I did get my little mandarin dug up and put
in a pot, so I'll make sure to pay attention
to the watering it what watering scheduled do you suggest
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in this case, So, a potted citrus tree, you know,
does like to be dried in between waterings as well,
like the deep watering like we talked about in the ground.
So it'd be something like where you give it a
good soaking, you know, in a in a pot, maybe
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you know, a five gallon bucket of water or something
like that. But then you're gonna let it dry out
before you rewater it. You do, yeah, which is a
lot of times. Why when you see a bag of
a citrus soil, it's it's almost like cactus mans, you know,
when you buy it at the garden center. So you
let it dry out. So you're curring probably water maybe
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once a week, but a good amount of water when
you do water, so it really soaks all that soil.
Sometimes it's hard to resaturate the soil. Sometimes when you
water you wait that long in between waterings, the water
just falls out the bottom of the pot. So in
that case, you want to do like a slow drip
in a pot to just really re soak that soil
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and then let it dry out between.
Speaker 1 (52:59):
But it should last at least a week roughly speaking.
Speaker 2 (53:03):
Yeah, I mean that's kind of a vague description. I mean,
if you live in Palm Springs, that might be the case.
Speaker 1 (53:09):
But always monitor the soil. I think Kevin has some
kind of a question about soil. Monitoring the soil or.
Speaker 3 (53:15):
I'm not a good person to answer.
Speaker 1 (53:17):
You don't.
Speaker 3 (53:17):
You don't do that on that because I.
Speaker 1 (53:20):
I just look at the soil and stick my finger
in there where, you know, mix it around, and if
it's good to go, it's good to go.
Speaker 3 (53:26):
You can look at the leaves at least I can't.
I can look at the leaves until whether or not
a plant needs water.
Speaker 2 (53:33):
All right, So we'll just keep cracking here. Then, Carla
is speaking of soil. Can you add pumice, pearlite, and
sand to raise bed mix?
Speaker 1 (53:42):
Soil?
Speaker 2 (53:43):
So raise bed soil mix and use it as a
potting mix. I mean pummus maybe, But a lot of
times a raised bed mix has a lot of organic material,
which if you use that as like a potting mix,
might create a little bit of a mucky mess for you.
Speaker 1 (53:59):
That's all. That's a tail.
Speaker 3 (54:00):
Yeah, you know it depends. It depends a lot on
your garden practices, right, you know, I'm happy using happy
frog potting soil, and that's all I use. It's just
it adapts to my watering practices, and my plants do
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the best in it.
Speaker 1 (54:23):
You don't like the testy toad. You like the happy frog.
Speaker 3 (54:26):
Happy frog? Right, So it depends. You know, if you
never water, if you're away a lot, you might want
to moisture retained potting.
Speaker 1 (54:37):
So there you go.
Speaker 3 (54:38):
You know, if I had that, it would kill everything
that I had because I just water too much.
Speaker 2 (54:46):
Sorry, I gotta read this, Kevin. I got to read
this comment from Kevin because I just bought two blueberry plants.
Why too, because the first one needed a mate for pollenization.
Blueberry plants like cats, If you have one, you might
as well get too, so they could keep each other
company when you are not around. Or two are more
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fun than one.
Speaker 1 (55:11):
And that's the story of the blueberry. And those are
the comments we like. He adds a little little humor
to that. I love it.
Speaker 3 (55:19):
Oh my goodness, it's a biblical quote. Two are better
than one, for they have good reward for their toil.
Speaker 1 (55:26):
And okay, give me the chapter verse. Where's that from?
Speaker 3 (55:29):
I think it's Proverbs.
Speaker 2 (55:32):
Oh, I see the one where you're talking about Kevin's comments. Kevin,
please remind us that we should probably own a water
level meter. This is how I know Kevin never listens
to us because we have never said you should own
a water but don't you see and we've only said
you should probably not own a water meter.
Speaker 1 (55:54):
But don't you like the way he posed it. It's
not that he doesn't listen. It's more like he's making
a poor with a question. Please remind us.
Speaker 3 (56:03):
How you know and Kevin does less and all.
Speaker 1 (56:07):
Listen very intently what he knows what he's doing.
Speaker 2 (56:10):
Yeah, I'm just joking around, but yeah, I mean the
water meter things are Yeah.
Speaker 1 (56:16):
You know, I think years ago and I used it
for about a week and I said I don't need
this because you know something, it wasn't always right. Like
my figure does a better job. I can tell if
it's you know, if it needs water or not. We're
about thirty seconds away from the next.
Speaker 3 (56:32):
Carolyn, and a Newport beach is still left, you know
for your comment on the testy toat. We gotta take
a break so Carolyn can compose her.
Speaker 1 (56:42):
So pose yourself. All right, We're gonna take a break. Hey,
guess what gang our next segments. So one of our
longer segments and then another segment after that, So two
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Hopefully you are too. Answering questions. We're doing gardening via
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everywhere right now, We're in studio, We're guard in America.
Speaker 3 (57:05):
All right, we're back with the kids.
Speaker 1 (57:09):
We have a good see. We enjoy the breaks. That
little what was that thirty seconds or so in between
the mics are off?
Speaker 3 (57:15):
Yeah, all right.
Speaker 1 (57:15):
Back to the question of.
Speaker 3 (57:16):
The comments saying, what are they talking about?
Speaker 1 (57:18):
It's guard in America. If you're just tuning in.
Speaker 3 (57:21):
John and Newport Beach says that he grew up in
the Willamette Valley and that I was right about the soils.
He says, all the farm kids that he went to
school with have now converted their row crops to vineyards.
Speaker 1 (57:34):
Okay, so you were right about the soil. I was
right about the polar bears, Tiger.
Speaker 2 (57:40):
You were not right about the part They are clear,
I said, and their skin is black.
Speaker 1 (57:47):
Yeah, you said.
Speaker 2 (57:48):
That they were go ahead, they were white because they
were reflecting.
Speaker 1 (57:54):
Yeah, the translucent.
Speaker 3 (57:55):
You know, Tiger says that they're their fur is clear
and I just can't see that.
Speaker 1 (58:02):
See. Oh my goodness. Now if there's another never mind
where Yeah, keep going, answer and I'll answer.
Speaker 2 (58:13):
I think it's Rick who asked the question. And it's
so funny because, uh, Rick says, I know you like
ocean forest, but if you were to create your own
soil from scratch, how would you make it?
Speaker 1 (58:25):
Oh, this is a John question.
Speaker 2 (58:26):
Well, he would put all the products from ocean forest.
Speaker 1 (58:30):
Yeah, just because we know we talked about this several
times about how in the old days you had to
have you had to amend the soil, you had to fertilize,
do this, do that. A lot of these potting soils, especially,
this has pretty much pretty much everything you would need
in one bag.
Speaker 3 (58:44):
You'd have to start with an organic base, so you
need thirty percent organic soil, so you can use a
planting mix maybe thirty percent you want drainage, and then
you add maybe twenty percent per lte for drainage, and.
Speaker 2 (59:02):
You you would go with pearlite over pummis over saying.
Speaker 3 (59:06):
Well, it depends what you're using it for. If it's
in a pot. I would probably use pearlte in the
ground would be and not in the ground because it
just washes away, right, But pumas on the ground. You
think you could use pummas on the ground. And also
if you have a pot that's going to be top heavy,
the pearlite or the pummis substance to the soil, so
(59:30):
if you put something in there, it's not going to
just blow over. Yeah, I don't know. It's like Sharon
used to say, it's mendo KSI to make your own,
uh potting soil too much trouble. You know, It's just
well I used hundreds and hundreds of bags of it,
so maybe you know, I'm not the best person to
(59:51):
ask about making your own.
Speaker 1 (59:52):
Yeah, but you know, if you if whatever you've done
is working for you, just keep doing it, yeah, because
then you hear somebody else say, well, maybe you should
with this way stick to what works for you.
Speaker 2 (01:00:03):
Well, and we live in a new era of gardening
because you know, John, you could say, you know, back
when you first started garding, you had to buy the
steer manure, and then you had to mix it with this,
and then you had to do this. There wasn't all
these complete packages, you know. Like also, you know when
you went to a garden center there was cottonsee meal,
(01:00:26):
blood meal, bone meal, you know, batguano, and then you
had to take them home and you mix them up
to make your.
Speaker 1 (01:00:33):
Yeah, to buy the bats. That was a tricky part,
to buy the bats and bring the bats home and
get the bat on it from the bats.
Speaker 2 (01:00:39):
But nowadays, you know, so many companies have created their
recipes for fertilizers, for potting soils, for planting mixes. They
you don't have to do that as much as you
used to, you know, and they don't have the simples
like what we call them, where they're the individual items.
Speaker 1 (01:00:58):
You know.
Speaker 2 (01:00:58):
That's not as normal anymore or as it used to be.
Speaker 1 (01:01:01):
So I wonder how successful I would be if I
had to start planning in the ground again. Back when
I had my home near the beach, I was all ground.
There was no pots, and I did not know what
I was doing, but I did. Okay, But I've been
doing pot with pots for so long now that's what
I'm used to.
Speaker 2 (01:01:21):
You'd probably overwater stuff for a while.
Speaker 1 (01:01:23):
I would. Yeah, I think you're right, yeah, yeah, Because
now everything's in that pot. But in the ground they're
reaching out right, left, back forth. You know they're going
to get there, up and down, up, down. They're gonna
search for water, they're going to search for nutrients. In
the ground, there's a lot more area to cover. Yep.
Speaker 3 (01:01:41):
So Forveronica makes.
Speaker 1 (01:01:44):
A comment, how long are we going to keep doing
this show?
Speaker 3 (01:01:47):
No, she says, tomatoes love bone meal.
Speaker 1 (01:01:51):
Tomatoes love bone meal.
Speaker 3 (01:01:52):
What would you think? My response that would be.
Speaker 1 (01:01:58):
I mean, I don't know where you're going to think.
John would say that's not something I would use.
Speaker 3 (01:02:05):
Well, I wouldn't use bon meal in southern California because
it's alkaline and it too much acidity. Too much acidity.
Speaker 1 (01:02:17):
You don't know.
Speaker 3 (01:02:18):
No, the bone meal is alkaline, right, so you wouldn't
so you don't want to make the soil more.
Speaker 1 (01:02:24):
That's that's what I'm saying. Yeah, I guess that's what
I'm saying. Yeah, too much. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:02:28):
And what bone meal does is does provide calcium, which
is why Veronica would say tomatoes love it, because that
way you don't get blossom Andra. Yep, that's what prevents
blossom Andra. But you can do the same thing with gypsum,
which is not going to affect the pH of the soil.
Speaker 1 (01:02:49):
Are we still at six point five is a rule?
Speaker 3 (01:02:52):
It's like six point five to seven is ideal. But
some plants prefer alkaline soil. Lilacs, for instance, there used
to be another garden show and in San Diego, and
it used to bother me every time I would hear
them talk about planning lilacs and how you had to
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acidify the soil when you planted it. And you know
that's because people in southern California don't know how to
grow lilacs. But they want just the opposite. They want
alkaline soil. Same thing with clemitis. I believe they prefer
alkaline soil.
Speaker 1 (01:03:29):
John Clemenus or Buddy.
Speaker 3 (01:03:32):
John Clematis, you would say clematis, Bryan I would you.
Speaker 2 (01:03:38):
Would say tomato.
Speaker 1 (01:03:41):
You'd say chips instead of French fries, wouldn't you? If
you were in England, you would.
Speaker 2 (01:03:46):
I'm going to just start saying that just to mess
with it.
Speaker 1 (01:03:49):
And for like Dorito's or other potato chips, it's crisps, crisps,
crisps and chips, yep, exactly.
Speaker 3 (01:03:56):
I remember the first time I went to New Zealand
and took my daughter down there, and uh, we were
we were visiting some people and they said, put it
in the boot.
Speaker 1 (01:04:09):
The trunk.
Speaker 3 (01:04:10):
Excuse me, what do you Yeah, just put it in
the boot, I said. I looked around, looked at my shoes, I.
Speaker 1 (01:04:16):
Said, Johnson, I feel very uncomfortable, right, yeah, I apologize.
I have no idea that.
Speaker 3 (01:04:24):
Being the kind of British word for trunk.
Speaker 1 (01:04:27):
Trunk, Yeah, the trunk or your car. And what do
they call trucks there?
Speaker 2 (01:04:32):
Trucks?
Speaker 1 (01:04:32):
Yeah, trucks like a pickup truck. Yeah, I don't know. Oh,
come on, somebody somebody on Facebook in England. Yes, they
don't call them truck. Their their lifts like or like
I said, I left is an elevator.
Speaker 2 (01:04:45):
They call semi trucks something else.
Speaker 1 (01:04:50):
Somebody jumping on Facebook here, we'll figure it out.
Speaker 3 (01:04:53):
I have no idea. Yeah, never, there's another word. I'm
not part of that world.
Speaker 2 (01:04:58):
Brian A long boot.
Speaker 1 (01:05:05):
Oh my god. Yeah. Anyway, so somebody will jump in trucks,
big trees.
Speaker 3 (01:05:10):
John in Newport Beach, thank.
Speaker 1 (01:05:12):
You very much. Lorries, Yeah, you're right, all right, Polar
Bears and Lorries. He's doing out today.
Speaker 3 (01:05:22):
Rick wants to know if you could add Ozma coat
to cover the base.
Speaker 1 (01:05:28):
You're a big Oma guy, aren't you.
Speaker 3 (01:05:30):
I used to use Ozma code. I don't anymore, but yeah,
Ozma code is nice, especially you don't have to worry
about You do it once at the beginning of the season,
you don't have to worry about it the rest.
Speaker 1 (01:05:42):
Of the right. Anytime I get a plant from John,
there's Ozma code in there. I know. Years.
Speaker 3 (01:05:48):
I don't know if you know. Products change over the years, tigers,
So I don't know if Ozma code has changed the
way it's released. But used to be that there would
be some damage to to root hairs if it was
mixed in the soil. So they would always recommend putting
ozma coat on the top or mix it into just
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the very top, not to put it in the soil.
But I don't know if that's still true.
Speaker 1 (01:06:15):
I don't know either. Yeah, I haven't used Ozma coat
in a long time. Yeah, just one more thing, just
throw in the happy for sure.
Speaker 2 (01:06:25):
Start fertilizers and stuff like that.
Speaker 3 (01:06:29):
So Carla is telling Rick get some Miracle or grow
organic from Costco. It's on sale this time a year,
and add sand and pumus mix it in a big
tub and you've got a lot ready to go. It's
quite economical, and it usually works for me. All right,
(01:06:50):
So that's what we've been saying. It works for you.
The word there that would make me think twice, I
know what you're gonna say usually yeah, usually yeah, but
I can't deal with usually I need to be one
hundred person.
Speaker 1 (01:07:08):
So you know what, though, that's not really true, because
you and I are the same thought process at times
where when someone says that won't grow here, you can't
do that, and we do it and sometimes we're successful. Usually, hey,
we have to take a break here. I'm just looking
at the clock. One more segment coming up is this
show has been a lot of fun. Hope you're having
a good time. Hope you're having fun. One more segment
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Garden America back after these messages on biz talk Radio.
All right, ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls, it's final segment.
I'm gonna mark this down as are you completed? Not yet?
Speaker 2 (01:07:41):
But are you keeping track of your score to remember?
Give yourself two points?
Speaker 1 (01:07:45):
Polar Bears and what was it Lorie's But I didn't
have the answer though, Yeah, I just knew it they
weren't trucks.
Speaker 3 (01:07:53):
Sometimes it's you deserve props for just thinking of a question. True,
you don't always need the answer.
Speaker 1 (01:07:59):
You know what a boot is, now, right, John?
Speaker 3 (01:08:02):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (01:08:02):
If I told John put in the boot, he would
pop the trunk.
Speaker 2 (01:08:06):
There's a funny quote from that show Ted Lasso, because
you know it's these guys in America, from America going
to England to coach soccer. And so the trunk is
called the boot. Soccer cleats are called boots.
Speaker 1 (01:08:24):
Boots.
Speaker 2 (01:08:25):
Yeah, they call them boots, the soccer cleats. And then
there was something else and so oh, I think like
a backpack or a suitcase or something. And so he
was commenting, So if I was to tell you take
your cleats, put him in the bag, put him in
the trunk, I'd say, take your boots, put him in boot,
and then stick him in the boot.
Speaker 1 (01:08:46):
And he's like, yeah, and not necessarily in that order,
but pretty close.
Speaker 3 (01:08:55):
Yeah. John mentions, since we're on the soil topic of soil,
that there's a great book called Finding the Mother Tree, Oh,
by Suzanne Simmered. She says, uh, he said, well, you
might want to have a show focused on roots sometimes, Okay, Yeah,
(01:09:16):
we could do that. An old minis one the first mini.
Speaker 1 (01:09:19):
Series right back in the late seventies, right, yeah, I
saw just it's one of those where you were for
some reason, you see, like benif.
Speaker 3 (01:09:27):
Then you couldn't go back and see what you missed,
if you missed one that was.
Speaker 1 (01:09:32):
Oh yeah, you don't know those days, do you? Yeah?
Do you really?
Speaker 2 (01:09:35):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (01:09:36):
Before before what was what was it? Was it? TVO?
Speaker 2 (01:09:40):
Remember the first thing that you could like rewind your
record your shows.
Speaker 1 (01:09:44):
Or because it was before dv The very first time
a friend of mine said, hey, I've got a video recorder.
Really yeah, come over to show you. And he had,
you know, the first movies that came out. He stuck
it in and there it was on his TV and
he goes, watch, I can pose it. I'm just like
this was like, yeah, but are you kidding me?
Speaker 2 (01:10:01):
But I mean so I was before they had that.
Speaker 1 (01:10:05):
D v R or Europe. You remember TV. If you
got up and left the room, you miss it, you
missed it.
Speaker 2 (01:10:11):
You hear yelling, you know, you hear yelling in the room.
Oh and you can running back and what it means?
Speaker 1 (01:10:15):
What you mean or come on, we're back, Come on,
it's good starting. Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 3 (01:10:23):
Carl is getting in a preemptive apology. Oh, she says
that she's guessing Miracle Grow it's a dirty word. But
this is organic with no food, and it's just good stuff.
Speaker 1 (01:10:38):
I didn't know.
Speaker 3 (01:10:40):
I specifically tried not to say anything bad about Miracle Grow.
That's why. If it works for.
Speaker 1 (01:10:48):
You, just yes, if you like thin cell walls on
a Planter's, didn't go ahead. There's nothing wrong with them.
Speaker 3 (01:10:55):
She's talking about organic stuff, right. I bought Scott's and
Miracle Grow are still in company.
Speaker 1 (01:11:04):
Yes, yes, yes, they are grow.
Speaker 3 (01:11:06):
I bought twenty.
Speaker 2 (01:11:07):
Bags of Scott's red Molts, black malts, black molts.
Speaker 1 (01:11:13):
Yeah, yeah, but you hauled it in at midnight so
nobody would see you.
Speaker 3 (01:11:18):
It's when I set it down. It just looked black
in the bag.
Speaker 2 (01:11:21):
Five for ten dollars was clear when I put it
on the ground, right, isn't it like when it was
last year?
Speaker 3 (01:11:28):
It was five for ten, Now it's four for ten.
Speaker 1 (01:11:30):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (01:11:30):
Is it twenty five percent increase? Anyway? I like the
way that.
Speaker 2 (01:11:35):
Looks chipped chip black, chipped up palletts is getting more expensive.
Speaker 1 (01:11:40):
I guess, honey, I don't.
Speaker 3 (01:11:41):
Know this kind of always used to painted black.
Speaker 1 (01:11:43):
This is kind of off the topic. When you talked
about the soil and Oregon, immediately came to mind was
Mount Saint Helen's when it erupted back in nineteen eight.
Vochanic soils, Yes, in that whole area.
Speaker 3 (01:11:55):
Hawaii, the whole all they have in Hawaii is volcanic
so yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:11:59):
And you know north in Arizona where I went to school,
big volcanic area right there too, because the Cistal Peaks
are right there Flagstaff. Yeah, and we used to ski
in the snow bowl. There's a big bowl up there
from when it exploded years ago. But great soil.
Speaker 3 (01:12:13):
You guys have been to Fallbrook, right, How would you
describe the town of Fallbrook?
Speaker 1 (01:12:18):
The town quaint, quaint, quaint, like driving through a little
small Midwestern town.
Speaker 3 (01:12:24):
Yes, yeah, he's not huge, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:12:28):
Like everyone you know Sam Drucker, you know, hey works
at the drug store. You know Betty lose your weight
running at.
Speaker 3 (01:12:33):
The store that you know. Would you think they would
put in a big, huge skateboard part?
Speaker 1 (01:12:41):
Really? No?
Speaker 3 (01:12:42):
Yeah, why would you do that? What now a new
subdivision or something?
Speaker 1 (01:12:46):
Now? Where where is it is? It kind of on
the outskirts or no.
Speaker 3 (01:12:49):
It's on on Fallbrook Street, right across, right down the
street from the Senior Citizens Center.
Speaker 1 (01:12:56):
Hey, okay, here's what I thought you were going to say.
First of all, yeah, maybe maybe not. I thought you
were going to say they're gonna put in a huge
Costco or a big Walmart right there.
Speaker 2 (01:13:07):
But you know what I will say about Fallbrook too.
It's also well known for kind of extreme sports people
to come at him.
Speaker 1 (01:13:16):
Because I think Tony Hawk come out of there.
Speaker 2 (01:13:19):
No, I think that was Encinitas. But but no, because
you guys are so out there that people have property,
so they ride motorcycles, they do mountain biking, they skateboard,
and and a lot of a lot of the youth
out of that area grew up I think with those
kinds of people.
Speaker 1 (01:13:39):
So I think that it probably is now getting to
that point. You want to impress people in fallbrookcial, go skateboard,
no helmet on. Yeah, and put a skateboard. Just carry
a skateboard and the helmet around. Yeah, don't even ride it,
just carried around going to a store, going to a
coffee shop, and just see what happens. Just you Yeah,
(01:14:01):
skateboard under the arm, helmet on. Don't even acknowledge it. Yeah,
that's what I would do. Hey, we have to wrap
things up here. Oh, it's the end of the show.
The end of the show. It's the end of an era.
Speaker 2 (01:14:11):
We got to get to guarding. Then springtime, everyone's gotta
get outside.
Speaker 1 (01:14:14):
Yeah, the weather gets a little warmer. We can do
a remote. Let's go someplace and do the show outside
of the studio.
Speaker 3 (01:14:20):
We had some cosmetic questions we weren't even able to
get to. Because I can having trouble with her gorilla hair.
Speaker 1 (01:14:27):
I can answer foundation questions. As far as makeup, we
can do that next week, all right, Permanent makeup's a
big thing too.
Speaker 3 (01:14:33):
Yeah, and I'm sorry we can't get to everyone's question
that was left done here.
Speaker 1 (01:14:39):
But can you reask it next week if you remember, well,
we'll get to them and you can get a little
testy with us. That's fine. You know, last week I
asked a question and you ignored me. Nobody answered it.
We don't mind, right, Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 3 (01:14:52):
And Rick ended up. Rick ended the show with a
really great question we couldn't get to.
Speaker 1 (01:14:56):
Okay, save it for next week. We're gonna tease you
we've got to go, get us, Get Gang. Thanks to
Biz Talk Radio Stephanie, Thanks to Facebook Live, I'm Brian Maine,
John BG, Nascar, Tiger Pellafox. Have a safe weekend, enjoy
your week. We'll reconvene next week right here from the
iHeart Studios in San Diego and Guarden America. Take care,