Gardening Resolutions for 2025 - Garden America Radio Show [1.4.25] - Garden America - Gardening Podcast & Talk Radio Show

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Well, well, well, look who's back, folks. Good morning, good evening,
good afternoon, Garden America. I think that's yeah, says right here,
Garden America. Nothing's changed. Happy new year. We are into
twenty twenty five. John Begnasco is back. I'm back. I'm
Brian Maine. John's phone is feeding back. But hey, that's
a great way to start the new year. Tiger Palafox, John, welcome.

Speaker 2 (00:20):
You know, I didn't want you to miss the old
year that much, so.

Speaker 1 (00:23):
I don't think anybody heard that really really, but I
used to do that with my computer. Anyway, we are
here sitting in the studio twenty twenty five. Hopef you
had a good holiday season. Been a minute, it has,
hasn't it.

Speaker 2 (00:34):
You know what I miss?

Speaker 1 (00:36):
I miss missed me. I know that.

Speaker 2 (00:37):
Oh of course I miss both of you guys.

Speaker 1 (00:39):
But what.

Speaker 2 (00:41):
Used to happen that doesn't happen anymore is writing the
wrong year on checks.

Speaker 1 (00:48):
You know what? That is a thing of the past.

Speaker 2 (00:50):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, because everybody wrote checks and it took
like two or three weeks before you started getting the
right year.

Speaker 3 (00:57):
Just think about all those things that you used to
keep track of so much that you have no clue
of anymore. Like the date is one of those things,
like you don't write the date very often anymore, and
your phone has it, so you don't wake up in
the morning and think today is January.

Speaker 1 (01:13):
Everywhere you look these days, the date in the time
is right there.

Speaker 4 (01:17):
Yeah, no matter where you are, know, No, there's no
real reason for you to retain that knowledge.

Speaker 2 (01:22):
I have to admit though, that I just started to calendar, Yeah, because.

Speaker 1 (01:27):
I like calendars. Yeah, I got over my desklender.

Speaker 2 (01:31):
I have to have the squares so I can write. Yeah,
I can't use the one on the phone. I know
it's there.

Speaker 1 (01:37):
I know. If you go shopping for whatever, I know
whether I'm grocery shopping or home deeople whatever. I put
my list in my phone. Dan is old school. My
wife Dan old school. I gotta write it down on
a piece of paper with a pen. We go to
the store. When you buy something, she checks it off,
and I'm like, just put in your phone. It's right there.

Speaker 4 (01:56):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:56):
I want to even have they even have like a
thing in your phone that lets you write the notes
and then check them off as you do them.

Speaker 2 (02:04):
Wow, you know, Shannon's I do the shopping. She sends
me a list. Right, I opened the list. The first
item on the list is at the top in bold.

Speaker 3 (02:16):
Oh yeah, because it's like the title. You think that's
the most important thing.

Speaker 2 (02:20):
No, I never get that. She'll say, where's the chicken?

Speaker 4 (02:27):
It was in bold at the time.

Speaker 2 (02:29):
I said I didn't. I got everything else. You know.
Thanks for all the the New Year's wishes from our listeners.

Speaker 1 (02:39):
All over the world.

Speaker 2 (02:40):
Right, yeah, I went. We have our our buddy in
Costa Rica send us a note. We got one from Australia,
one from Canada, one from ustam in Pakistan.

Speaker 1 (02:55):
I've always been real big down Under. You know that, right,
it's been big no down Under Australia. You're popular in Australia,
so so you've always been big down Unders. What I'm
what I'm saying, that's the term used, you know, down
Under Australia.

Speaker 2 (03:16):
I have no idea what you're even talking about.

Speaker 1 (03:19):
What I'm talking about.

Speaker 3 (03:20):
I know both sides of your comments. Yeah yeah, listening
to Yeah happy, you're happy new to everyone and those
with us the country too.

Speaker 1 (03:32):
For the past couple of weeks, we weren't here. People
active on our Facebook page, people active on the website.

Speaker 4 (03:37):
We appreciate sharing photos.

Speaker 2 (03:39):
How much sweet did you guys gain over the much?

Speaker 4 (03:42):
There's so many cookies, so many trees.

Speaker 1 (03:44):
I was real careful. We made a I found this
online on the Billy Graham website. His wife Ruth had this,
this recipe for a pumpkin pie cream cheese and and
nutmeg and cinnamon, and I said, We've got to make this,
and we did and it was good. It was better
than advertised.

Speaker 4 (04:03):
Did you you know what very little sugar? Did you
buy a crust or did you make we bought We
bought a crust, but did you use a gram cracker?
We had to cook it.

Speaker 1 (04:12):
We cooked it. Actually it wasn't It wasn't pre cooked
or pre made, so it was scratch.

Speaker 4 (04:17):
Oh wow, okay.

Speaker 1 (04:18):
And it came out really good. So speaking of that.

Speaker 2 (04:20):
You know what I learned how to make sugar is
you know, one of our holiday traditions is we always
make homemade ravioli. And this year my wife trying to
make it's it's a whole thing to do ravioli. It
takes two days, right.

Speaker 3 (04:37):
Because you have to make the pasta right. Then you
got to make the philly right.

Speaker 1 (04:41):
You got to get a couple of your ingredients in there,
and sew it back up again. It's a whole yeah,
it's a whole process.

Speaker 2 (04:48):
Well, there's there's a press that you do that in.
But my wife tried using her mixer. You know, it's
got all these attachments and things on it, and it
made the pot the dough too sticky. So she added
flour and and nothing was working. It was just coming

(05:08):
out sticky. And my wife says, you know, I my
son Jesse was there helping, and she goes, I can't
do anymore.

Speaker 1 (05:17):
That's it.

Speaker 2 (05:18):
I've had enough. And I said, well, what are we
going to do? And she goes, she goes, you got
to make new pasta? Do And I go We'll make
it and she goes, no, you make it. I said,
all right, tell me what to do. And she laid
on the couch and said you know that. Yeah, do this,
make a hole in the center of the flour, add

(05:38):
two eggs and and then I got to use the
pasta maker and run it through through there. And it
was fun. Yeah, you know, it takes a little while
to get to hang it.

Speaker 1 (05:49):
How did you do it? So it wasn't sticky the
second time around?

Speaker 2 (05:52):
You know, yeah, everything was done by hand instead of
putting it in a Yeah, but doing it by hand
came out perfect.

Speaker 3 (06:04):
You know what's funny about that is there was a
show recently, I can't remember what streaming surf it was.
It was on and something about cooking with chemistry or
something of that sort of title. But I mean the
show had a whole storyline. But the idea that your
whether you melt butter or whether you use cold butter,

(06:25):
or whether you add wet ingredients to the dry ingredients
at these certain times can.

Speaker 4 (06:30):
Change your whole meal all.

Speaker 3 (06:33):
Together is really interesting because you know, with pasta, like
you say, like, there's a process and if you don't
follow that process, it could be sticky, or it could
be dry, or you know, certain things can happen, and
it's all because of the chemistry of the foods working
together that create some of those those issues, like could
be starchy or whatever it is. It's fascinating that somebody,

(06:57):
you know, I mean, obviously we get fascinated by who
was the first person that didn avocado, cut it open
and then ate it because it was probably like an apple,
because like, let's be real, when you pick an avocado,
off a tree.

Speaker 4 (07:07):
It's never really always right the first time, you know.
And then so he's like, well if we wait a
little longer, you know.

Speaker 1 (07:14):
So what you're talking about, it's all trial and error.
It could be one hundred times over before they go,
ah ah, this is what we did wrong. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (07:21):
One of the things I thought we would do today
that would be kind of fun for our listeners is
let us know what's some of your New Year's gardening resolutions? So, yes,
you know, what do you want to do resolution? Yeah,
what do you want to do this year? What do
you want to avoid doing that you did last year?
We might share some of ours, but let us.

Speaker 3 (07:40):
Know, yeah, so start thinking about that, share them in
the chat, and then we can start bringing them on
on the show. As we see the lists.

Speaker 1 (07:48):
And those of you on biz Talk Radio, this is
another excuse to join the show live. I mean, we
appreciate you listening on bis talk. Yeah, go to our
way a web page, don't we John, or a Facebook
page or something going on? Go to our go to
our Facebook page. Every Saturday morning, eight o'clock on the
West Coast eleven o'clock Eastern time zone, you can, like
I say, log in and you can be part of
the chat and you can hear us live and take

(08:10):
part and see some great visuals. That's where about visuals
this year too, a lot more.

Speaker 3 (08:15):
And if you're on biz talk also, you can always
go to our Facebook and send us a message. If
there's a problem you don't want to watch the show
on an answer, we can share it in the next
week's episode.

Speaker 1 (08:23):
And John at Gardinamerica dot com still works for all
those questions and comments and and tidbits of information that
you're yearning for. We're gonna yearn more questions so much
we're hear I want to learn more this year.

Speaker 4 (08:34):
It starts in the subject John, I'm yearning.

Speaker 2 (08:37):
Yeah, Hey, I got this information from one of our
actually from Lisa, our one of our faithful listeners and reading,
and she pre ordered an item and I wanted to
know if you were going to have these at your
stok Tiger, because I talk to my wife about it.
She says, yeah, that sounds like it would be cool.

(09:00):
The firefly petunia. Are you guys going to carry those?

Speaker 4 (09:04):
I am not familiar with it.

Speaker 2 (09:05):
Okay, it almost sounds unbelievable, Brian.

Speaker 1 (09:09):
Look, can you post a picture? Yeah? Let's post a picture,
so go ahead.

Speaker 2 (09:13):
You know what's unique about the fire fly petunia.

Speaker 1 (09:15):
Brian, it doesn't when you touch it, it.

Speaker 2 (09:17):
Glows at night. It lights up at night. It's been
genetically engineered, genetically modified to glow at night.

Speaker 1 (09:27):
You know.

Speaker 2 (09:27):
Do you remember the story a few years ago where
they've been trying to work with Christmas trees to get
them to light up. Yes, this is I guess part
of that research, and I think Lisa told me that
she ordered hers on Wayside Gardens. Now, thirty dollars is
kind of expensive for a petunia.

Speaker 4 (09:49):
Forty dollars is what it's on the light Bio website.

Speaker 1 (09:52):
Yeah, but you're paying for all that genetic engineering. That's
the beauty.

Speaker 2 (09:56):
It just sounds interesting.

Speaker 3 (09:58):
Yeah, three four forty dollars you get three small firefly
petunias in a forty five million meter plantable paper.

Speaker 1 (10:06):
Pos Is there good? Are there good images on there
that we can share? I am, I'm working on perfect. Hey,
we're close to a break. I know we have to
get to the quote of the week and all sorts
of by the business it is. I was gonna say,
open phones that is so yesteryear. No, we are no
guest today. We are the guests. So whatever's on your
mind here, Facebook Live, questions, comments, shoot them to us.

(10:27):
And again I'm Brian Main, John Begnasco, Tacket, Pella Fox.
Welcoming those twenty twenty five to Bistalk Radio. Welcome to
the show. We're going to take a break for you
bis Talk Radio back after these messages. Do stay with
us and we are back from the break, a very
quick break on Facebook Live. Those on Bistalk Radio, thank
you for supporting our listeners or advertisers and those who

(10:47):
do support Garden America as we venture into a new year.
Twenty twenty five.

Speaker 2 (10:52):
Quote of the week, Brian, the quote of the week
is from hell Borland, who is a garden writer that
we've quoted before sure, and he said that the year's
end is neither an end nor a beginning, but a
going on with all the wisdom that experience can instill in.

Speaker 1 (11:11):
Us, always moving forward, right yep, finish the race strong.

Speaker 2 (11:19):
What was your favorite article in the newsletter this week?

Speaker 1 (11:21):
Brian, I would say my favorite article was well, the
one that was actually attached to the picture that we
talked about you that I love it, especially now that
i've learned how you're doing that, because I'm going to
play around with that app. When you send me the link,
I thought you were going to ask me like highlights
of articles last year A twenty twenty four.

Speaker 2 (11:44):
Well you can comment on that whenever you want.

Speaker 1 (11:47):
I save all the newsletters in a folder, do you yeah,
because you know why I like to hearken back. I'm
a hearkening kind of guy. I will hearken back now
and then after I yearn.

Speaker 4 (12:00):
Stuck on that fire. So I shared a link to Okay,
I see, yeah, And it's to the actual website for
the product, and so they can go on there and
see it's a white petunia, which is really kind of
you know, pretty and neat.

Speaker 2 (12:12):
But then the leaves, the leaves are the ones that
light up, right.

Speaker 4 (12:16):
I didn't read I think it is. I think you're
right though from the pictures.

Speaker 2 (12:20):
But so Lisa, by the way, heard us talking about
this and said she got fifteen percent off.

Speaker 4 (12:27):
Yeah, so that's why she got a deal.

Speaker 2 (12:28):
Huh.

Speaker 4 (12:29):
But do you did you look into it? John? Do
you know?

Speaker 1 (12:32):
Is it?

Speaker 4 (12:33):
You know?

Speaker 3 (12:34):
Is it something that like in the early evening glows
because the sunset and it charged it like a like
a glow in the dark sticker or does it stay
glowing all night because of the actual bioluminescence in the plant?

Speaker 2 (12:51):
What kind of chemistry is going to do you know, No,
I'm not really positive, but I believe it is from
the like the bio luminescence that's in plankton. I know
that's what they were working.

Speaker 3 (13:04):
Okay, yes, that makes sense, so that you have to
disturb it though, in order for it to glow, to
kick to kick up all them what molecules or whatever
like bioluminescence. You know, the reason why you see it
in the waves is because it's constantly stirring. Or if
a boat goes through the ocean, you'll see the trail

(13:24):
of bioluminescence the ocean. Ocean doesn't just glow by itself.

Speaker 4 (13:29):
So I'm wondering, like.

Speaker 2 (13:30):
What anyway, I think that's part of it. It's not
solar or you know.

Speaker 3 (13:35):
Yeah, like well, like the glow in the dark sticker,
you know, like you put a light on it glows,
but then it fades over time.

Speaker 1 (13:40):
But wait a second, if I was going to research this, yeah,
you know what comes to mind and correct me if
I'm wrong. But the tomato, hornworms.

Speaker 4 (13:51):
Don't they glow in the dark with a with a
black light, right, with a black.

Speaker 2 (13:56):
Light, Yeah, to have a black light, but you don't
need a black.

Speaker 1 (13:58):
Light if there's still something going on to deal with.

Speaker 2 (14:01):
There's something going on. But if you have a black light,
A lot of things glow in the dark, like your clothes.

Speaker 1 (14:10):
Right. It depends on the color what you're wearing obviously.

Speaker 2 (14:12):
Yeah, but I mean like, if you've got something white
that's been washed with what is it? Is it bleach
or something makes it glow?

Speaker 1 (14:22):
Are you familiar with luminol?

Speaker 2 (14:24):
Luminol sounds familiar.

Speaker 1 (14:27):
Cops use luminol when they go to a crime scene.
They turn the lights off and then they turn the
light on and they can see blood. If somebody is
trying to do a good job cleaning up a messy scene,
they can still find the blood and there's still a
lot of it.

Speaker 4 (14:38):
Yes.

Speaker 2 (14:39):
I used to know someone that would when they checked
in a hotel, would use one of those signes.

Speaker 1 (14:44):
Yeah, shows up a lot of things. Hey, we caught
up on any comments and questions.

Speaker 2 (14:49):
Yeah, we've got a lot of people talking about some
of their resolutions. John and Newport Beach says that his
number one resolution is not too overwalked.

Speaker 1 (15:01):
That's a very good resolution.

Speaker 2 (15:03):
You know, that's something I've my whole life. I have
problem with.

Speaker 1 (15:07):
I don't.

Speaker 2 (15:07):
I don't think I rarely would have a plant die
from neglect or underwater.

Speaker 1 (15:13):
Good over watering.

Speaker 2 (15:13):
But yeah, I've wrought it.

Speaker 1 (15:15):
So that's a natural instinct, right, give it some water.
You know what I love about the weather we've had.
You know, it sounds it sounds so dramatic. Dense fog
advisory for the script's ranch area last couple of weeks.
So I go outside all the plants I watered maybe
a week, week and a half ago, maybe two weeks.
Everything's still moist, everything's doing well. I have not had
to bring out the hose. It's so why Tiger and

(15:35):
I love this time of year.

Speaker 3 (15:36):
Yeah, I can go, yeah, so so long without having
to be one.

Speaker 1 (15:41):
You keep an eye on it, obviously, to make sure
there's no telltale signs of death.

Speaker 2 (15:46):
This is a good time here, though, to kill something
from overwatering, because, as you're saying, it's just not going
to dry out. You know, the days are shorter too,
though they are getting longer now.

Speaker 1 (15:56):
Yeah, but it's it's a long process.

Speaker 2 (15:58):
Missed you at the Winter Solstice party.

Speaker 1 (16:01):
I came late. Really, I didn't see you.

Speaker 2 (16:04):
I was there till midnight.

Speaker 1 (16:06):
I tiding get there till one fifteen. That's why stay
till four. But I don't think it was as good
as previous years.

Speaker 2 (16:15):
John wants to know if those moisture meters that you
stick in the soil are reliable.

Speaker 1 (16:22):
I would say yes and no. Depends on what you know.

Speaker 2 (16:26):
You're right, but the I think if you have to
rely on a moisture meter that it's you already have
a problem.

Speaker 1 (16:37):
Yeah, because you just need you.

Speaker 2 (16:39):
Know, I can look at you know, I can walk
by a plant. We don't have that many indoor plants,
but the few we do have, you know, my wife
takes care of and I can walk by a plant
and I go, you know that plant needs water. Yeah,
because you can look at the leaf. Absolutely, you know,
the leaf loses some of its shine, some of its glow,
It wilts a little bit, and you know you're in trouble.

Speaker 1 (17:02):
Is when it loses its luster. Then then you got
a problem.

Speaker 2 (17:06):
If you if you touch the soil with your finger
and it feels damp at all, you don't need to water.
And the general rule of thumb is if you're not
sure whether the plant needs water, don't because it's more
likely to come back from from uh being underwater than

(17:28):
it is Oka.

Speaker 1 (17:29):
Speaking of that, this is a very bad time of
the year for hydranges, right, Well, it's not bad. They
just go dorm Well, that's basically what I'm saying is
mine looks mine's dormant, but it almost looks like death.
Well it's supposed to, I know. So here's my point.
My point is for those people wondering, you know, don't

(17:51):
don't worry. Certain plants are supposed to look that way. Well.

Speaker 3 (17:54):
And then here's the hard thing about our mild temperature areas.
And John probably goes through this every year with his roses.
Is in southern California. We don't always go dormant. So
the plants do look like death.

Speaker 1 (18:09):
They have.

Speaker 4 (18:10):
I'm dealing with this customer right now in del Mar.
She's in del Mar.

Speaker 3 (18:14):
She's got these iceberg roses planted against her house. Okay,
so and the house has a big balcony, Okay, And
she's frustrated because they're plagued with mildew. They're not looking healthy.
The blooms are not doing well, and I'm like, there's
not a lot I can do for you. I mean,

(18:36):
number one, this plant should be going dormant, so anything
I do fertilized treat you're not going to see results.

Speaker 1 (18:44):
And number two, it might even be detrimental to it degree.

Speaker 3 (18:46):
Right, Yeah, it's like you push out growth when it shouldn't.
And then number two, I go, this area that you
have I'm planted in, aren't even conducive to the plant,
like a rose should not be planted in the shade.
Again to your house, dense foliage growing within itself. So
you're you know, these problems are all happy.

Speaker 1 (19:05):
You're gonna take a quick break. We're gonna we're gonna
pick up on this being this time of the year,
especially in San Diego.

Speaker 2 (19:10):
Have more problems after the break, we do.

Speaker 1 (19:12):
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dormant talk, and as you mentioned Tiger Great point here

(19:33):
in San Diego, Southern California, warm weather plants are supposed
to go dormant, but a lot of times, yeah, they
just don't. They don't because of the weather, because of
the heat and the changing of the temperatures.

Speaker 3 (19:43):
And so this customer has these roses in these areas,
which are not really great to have these roses in
these area to begin with.

Speaker 4 (19:49):
And then she's comparing them.

Speaker 3 (19:50):
To iceberg roses on her on her complex property that
are in full sun, good airflow and all of that
kind of stuff, and they are looking good right now.

Speaker 1 (20:02):
Is they're planet in the proper place right.

Speaker 3 (20:04):
And they you know, so she's like, she's frustrated. I go,
I get your frustration, But there's a lot of things
happening here. And then again Southern California when things don't
go dormant, and then you know, like John's plants will
go dormant way before del Mar plants will go dorman
and that'll be different than you know, Mission Valley.

Speaker 1 (20:27):
And it's like like real estate location, location, location.

Speaker 4 (20:31):
So it's tough here in southern California because we don't
have the blatant, you know, seasons that other places do.

Speaker 2 (20:39):
Well. There's different things that cause dormancy. One would be
day length, which will be the same whether you're on
the coast or inland. Another is cold, which will be
more effective or that it'll be colder inland than it
is on the coast, so you have that. And then

(21:01):
the other is is fertilizing, which you can control in
both locations. And then the last that I can think
of would be let you know, reduce water and let
a plant rather than deadhead because you're dead heading all year,
let it go to set. So once the rose sets hips,

(21:23):
it goes Okay, I'm done. I'm going to take a rest,
smoke a cigarette.

Speaker 4 (21:29):
Wait till next spreed. Right, yeah, so yeah, but I.

Speaker 2 (21:33):
Mean, but yeah, I have you know, I'm cutting cutting
back some of the roses that I have in pots
now and others that I had fertilized earlier in the year,
like say, I think it was August. I maybe gave
him a good good fertilizing August or September. Some of
those are growing and pluming right now.

Speaker 3 (21:54):
It's wonderful, but then to compare that one to the
other one that's not is unfair, right, Yeah, like why
is this one not doing well?

Speaker 2 (22:03):
You know, I we didn't quite finish our moisture meter talk,
and I had meant to do this, but you know,
Paula mentions that she uses one on houseplants and it
can be effective, you know, and she does make a
good point. She says, you know, sometimes it feels dry
on top, but it's wet down below, right, Yeah, so

(22:24):
so yeah, it I guess what I wanted to finish saying,
was it's all right to use one of those moisture
meters on houseplants like that. But then Tanya says that
she tries using them on cactus and succulents and it
doesn't work. And part of the reason is because of
the soil, the type of soil that you're using. It's

(22:45):
not really soil. It's a loose, gritty material, and so
it's probably not good for that.

Speaker 3 (22:50):
You know, it almost would probably always say dry. Right,
So the moisture meter for like a cactus and succulent mix.

Speaker 2 (22:58):
Yeah, it might tell you that it needs it's water
when it really doesn't.

Speaker 4 (23:01):
Yeah, I would imagine it always be the fact.

Speaker 1 (23:03):
That they retain worsture anyway.

Speaker 2 (23:06):
In my Cactus and Succulent book, Brian I mentioned just
putting a beach pebble on your cactus or succulent in
the pot, and.

Speaker 4 (23:16):
Not on the on the soil, not on yours, not.

Speaker 2 (23:20):
On the beach pebble, right, you know those black beach pebbles.
And if you pick that up and look at the
underside of it, if the underside is moist, it doesn't
need water, and you can use that as a moisture meter.
When that's dry, completely dry, you can water if you want.

Speaker 3 (23:39):
But again, I think he uses as one of those
black ones. Yeah right, the top will be gray and dry.
You're under need.

Speaker 4 (23:44):
It'll be a black right. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (23:47):
I love having Tiger as an interpreters conclusion. John is
telling you, yeah, no, no, that's I appreciate that because
he does listen to what I say, just and he
thinks it is an here's how people would understand that.

Speaker 1 (24:04):
So how we don't? We are we caught up? But
we miss anybody well.

Speaker 2 (24:07):
Leonara says that her resolution might be negative, but she
already sees no rain and tomatoes are growing, and she's
worried about a potential drought.

Speaker 4 (24:19):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 2 (24:21):
You know, I would say, Leonard, don't worry.

Speaker 1 (24:22):
Yeah, no, where is she getting the idea that there
might be.

Speaker 2 (24:25):
Don't be happy? Well, what's the problem of a d
Where would you get the potential drought? I mean, that's
all you ever hear?

Speaker 1 (24:32):
You have.

Speaker 2 (24:32):
We just had two years of the heaviest strain I
can remember in California, and and they're talking, you know,
we have to conserve water.

Speaker 3 (24:42):
Yeah, yeah, it's and it I mean it's you know,
when there is a drought. Obviously, we don't want to
just have water out of our hose running down the street.
But if if you're growing your plants properly and you're
not just wasting water.

Speaker 2 (24:58):
Yeah yeah, there's there's nothing more you can do when
you need to water.

Speaker 4 (25:03):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (25:04):
And you know, and then that's the other thing too,
is and they they went, you know, the water Authority
went through this whole thing because they started saying, Okay,
everybody needs to remove lawns, they need to remove their
landscape and all this stuff. Right that was maybe like
ten years ago, fifteen years ago. They started touting all that,
and so everybody did, and they put in synthetic turf,
and they put in gravel and all this other stuff,
and we looked like Arizona.

Speaker 1 (25:25):
And those companies loved it, and they loved it.

Speaker 3 (25:27):
But then they found the problem was is now we
started actually superheating our homes in our neighborhoods and everything else,
and that wait a minute, well wait wait, we need
to tell people not just do that, but also plant
with you know, plants that maybe don't require a lot
of water, or we still need trees. We still need
plants because those are also beneficial to us by cooling

(25:50):
our areas, providing shade, softening, you know, the evaporation of soil,
increasing soil life. Because that was the other thing too,
is we had all kinds of runoff, you know, because
we everybody putting gravel and everything, and next thing, you know,
we have all this runoff, which is another problem.

Speaker 1 (26:07):
Have you been to the back of the building here,
there's a beautiful grass area. Yeah, wonderful. I take a
walk through or three times a day. Smells good freshly mode.

Speaker 4 (26:14):
Did your shoes off go through it? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (26:16):
You know, I'm set up a sprinkler run through that.
But the law looks really good.

Speaker 2 (26:21):
Well, you know, I have a tendency to be cynical.
But I would say, yeah, you know.

Speaker 1 (26:27):
You know, you're so funny stuff.

Speaker 2 (26:31):
But I would say a general rule of thumb is
that any recommendation you get from the government, either federal
or local state, regarding the environment, the opposite is probably
the best course to take.

Speaker 1 (26:50):
I would agree.

Speaker 2 (26:51):
Yeah, you know, getting rid of your lawns was to
me was one of the stupidest things, like Tiger's saying that. Yeah,
it makes no sense. Yeah, especially when you think of
the amount of water that's used for residential use in
the state. It's a very small percent that's total residential use,

(27:14):
and then a smaller percent of that that goes to
the landscape. Yeah, so if we had no landscapes whatsoever,
you know, you could maybe save two to three percent
of water. Yeah, so what's the point. Yeah, anyway, we
don't want to start the year off on a negative note,
so we'll just forget that.

Speaker 4 (27:34):
Yeah, but you know, I mean, you know, growing tomatoes,
growing tomatoes, you know, being that is one thing you know,
going into a dry winter is you know, you have
this thing you're going to start plants, and this is
the challenge that people do when they start them outside
or in their beds? Is you know, it's tough.

Speaker 3 (27:52):
It's much easier to start plants inside, control the environment
a little bit better, and move them out when you
know that they're ready, right, because it's tough starting plants
outside because you're it could be hot, it could be cold,
it could be wet, it could be dry.

Speaker 2 (28:05):
You know what I just moved outside was? Do you
remember I think it was maybe a month ago now
we had the show where I brought in the rose cuttings. Yeah,
the rose cuttings. One of those is got so big
and full of roots that I put it outside in
a one gallon container.

Speaker 4 (28:24):
No.

Speaker 3 (28:24):
Now, now the last time you did that, you did
you moved some outside and put them straight into one
gallery and then you also had a group that you
put into a four inch or something liners and then so.

Speaker 2 (28:38):
To see if it made a different. How are they
all doing They're all doing this thing all the same.

Speaker 4 (28:42):
Yeah, okay, cool?

Speaker 3 (28:44):
And now though going that was was that in December
or was that in November that you did.

Speaker 2 (28:49):
That the first part of December?

Speaker 3 (28:52):
Okay, So now we're in January a little cooler. You
think you're seeing the same results. I mean, but we
are we are in a weird Yeah.

Speaker 4 (29:00):
It's beautiful right now. So well it's not cold.

Speaker 2 (29:04):
You know, I remember my days in the retail gardens center.
This is the time here. People come in and they go,
I need to buy some bogan va and some hibiscus marigolds. Yes, yeah,
and you know it's going to get cool in southern California.

Speaker 1 (29:20):
It's break timing, all right, Oh all.

Speaker 2 (29:22):
Right, I know we come back after the break.

Speaker 1 (29:24):
Brian keeping our train of thought here on Garden America
and those on Facebook Live. A lot of conversations back
and forth between our our viewers and listeners. We've got some.

Speaker 2 (29:33):
Resolutions will go over after the break.

Speaker 1 (29:35):
We bring people together. We're going to take a break
for Bistalk Radio. Brian Main, John BG Nasco, Tiger Palafox.
Here it is Garden America first show of twenty twenty five.
I'm going to say this one time and after Monday,
no more. Happy New Year from Guarden America. Well, folks,
those on bistok Radio, we made it to the final segment,
news coming up top of the hour for our friends
on bis Talk Radio. We come back at six minutes

(29:57):
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hear us live and take part each and every week.
Back to the resolutions, John, we discussed the pride to
the break.

Speaker 2 (30:11):
Carlin Huntington Beach has a good resolution. Her resolution is
not to give.

Speaker 1 (30:16):
A beautiful Yeah, don't give up.

Speaker 2 (30:20):
That's her gardening resolution. Just keep trying. Yeah, I didn't.
We wasn't one of our rules. Once until you've killed
a plant three times, don't say you can't grow.

Speaker 1 (30:30):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (30:31):
Yeah, I have a hefty project I'm going to take
on this year, which is kind of like not I
wouldn't say my resolution, but it is. My goal is
so behind our new poolhouse that we built, I was slow.
All done, It's all done, yeah, And so we have
this sloped area and I need to build some retaining
walls and terrace it a little bit and you know,

(30:53):
plant it out. And that is a goal that I
have for this year. You by yourself, Yeah, probably is
to get that done in the next twelve months. We'll
see how that goes.

Speaker 1 (31:06):
It's going to be a project, well, realistically in twelve months.
If you figured out how much time you'd have to
dedicate in terms of twice a week, three times a week,
a little bit every day.

Speaker 4 (31:17):
It's not so much the time, It's going to be
more the.

Speaker 1 (31:22):
Just your attitude.

Speaker 3 (31:24):
Yeah really, you know, just you know the attitude of
getting it done and all that.

Speaker 4 (31:29):
It shouldn't be very hard.

Speaker 1 (31:31):
You look at it as kind of a pain. I
wish it didn't have to do it? Or is there
a tinge of excitement that, boy, this is going to
be great once?

Speaker 4 (31:37):
Oh I want to do it, Okay, I want to
do it. Yeah, so I'm excited.

Speaker 3 (31:40):
But you know, with the kids and with stuff, I mean,
just finding the free time in the week. Kids still
live in the house with you guys, I know, right,
you would think by nine years old they would move
off on their own.

Speaker 1 (31:48):
Well, no, Sotassi's how old?

Speaker 4 (31:50):
Fourteen?

Speaker 1 (31:50):
Okay, she should be out on her own with a
job and.

Speaker 2 (31:54):
The uh should at least be engaged.

Speaker 1 (31:56):
Yeah exactly.

Speaker 2 (31:58):
And my wife was only two years older, Yeah exactly.

Speaker 1 (32:02):
Isaac's nine. Yeah, what's he con forbidding?

Speaker 4 (32:06):
I know to ask him every day, Well, at least
get a.

Speaker 1 (32:09):
Job, yeah something? Paper rout kids have paper routes anymore?

Speaker 2 (32:12):
No, I don't think you know what that is?

Speaker 1 (32:14):
Such a lot that is I remember ten years old
getting up, you know, four o'clock in the morning folding
papers that deliver him to a buddy's garage. You had
a big garage and we'd go out. You did do
a paper, right, I did, absolutely, and then go home,
take a shower and go to school. It was fun.
I remember one time, though this is terrible, there was
a local paper in Pacific Beach called The Sentinel. It

(32:35):
wasn't a big paper, but it was community oriented. So
at the end of the month you would meet at
an elementary school or some place in the district manager.
You turn in your money. Then he'd give you a
check or the money for the month.

Speaker 4 (32:46):
Right, you turn you would turn in your money.

Speaker 1 (32:49):
Well you got you collected? Oh yeah, then you would
collect from all your subscribers.

Speaker 4 (32:54):
He would give you back something.

Speaker 1 (32:55):
Yes, I'll never forget his name. His last name was Pocklington.
And one month I got six dollars and fifty cents
and I said, I'm done. Yeah that no, what are
you doing? Well? You know the cofton this is not
and everything.

Speaker 4 (33:08):
I'm like, do you know how much you gave?

Speaker 1 (33:10):
Him. Oh yeah, I probably gave him probably at that point.
Maybe this is back in the sixties, maybe sept fifty
sixty bucks.

Speaker 4 (33:17):
Okay, so you got back is what you got? That's fair.

Speaker 2 (33:23):
I didn't think so, but anyway, Million nipomo'brien.

Speaker 1 (33:28):
Yes.

Speaker 2 (33:29):
She says that her new year resolution is to stop
buying plants because she has so many. Actually she said
it was her new year's resolution. She broke it yesterday.

Speaker 1 (33:41):
I don't see how that's possible.

Speaker 2 (33:43):
She got two.

Speaker 1 (33:44):
The only thing that should limit you to buying plants
or any material like that is space.

Speaker 2 (33:50):
Well, I think that's why she made the resolution.

Speaker 1 (33:53):
Okay, so what plants are you tired of taking care
of that you could give to somebody or you know,
look at it that way. Yeah, you know, you go
up and move out.

Speaker 2 (34:03):
You know how often do you give plants to anyone?

Speaker 1 (34:07):
Uh people upstairs to you? Yeah? Now and then yeah
really yeah? You know.

Speaker 3 (34:12):
So so that is something funny is when I go
to a customer's house and they talk about changing things up.
Sometimes I'll look at areas and they'll have a you know,
pitisforlam Wheeler's Dwarf or some star jasmine or you know,
just real basic stuff, and not that it's bad, it's
just kind of more basic.

Speaker 4 (34:31):
And they want to spruce things.

Speaker 3 (34:32):
Up, and I'll say, well, you know, we got to
pull these out and make room for something new. And
instantly they're like, oh, you know, like I don't know,
they've been there and don't want to I don't want
to just kill it. It's looking good or it's doing okay.
And I go, but that's the only way you're gonna
have to get something new.

Speaker 4 (34:49):
That's the only way.

Speaker 3 (34:50):
We're gonna be able to freshen up the look or
you know. And then the other thing too, is that's
the only way I'm going to achieve your landscape goals,
because they'll bring me a picture and and they'll want
a Mediterranean garden, or they'll want a tropical garden, or
you know, they'll want a California native garden. And you know,
I was at someone's house, uh and what was it.

(35:11):
It was king poms. They had king palms in their
backyard and they wanted a more California native landscape. And
I was like, okay, no problem, Well do this with
this and I'm gonna and I'm gonna pull these out
and they were looking beautiful, and they're like why you know,
because I'm like, you want this look.

Speaker 4 (35:30):
If I leave these, you're.

Speaker 3 (35:32):
Always going to have this this doesn't fit look because
you know, that's like wearing a Hawaiian T shirt with
dressed slacks.

Speaker 4 (35:40):
It just doesn't work.

Speaker 1 (35:41):
There's it done, But you're right, it doesn't work. You know, like, yeah,
it's like it's like, this is not a place. What
did your photoshop this into this picture? Yeah, it doesn't
belong here. But on the other on the other side
of the coin, that can understand, you know, it's like.

Speaker 4 (35:57):
Yeah, there's nothing wrong with it. It's been there forever.

Speaker 1 (36:02):
Yeah, so so could you?

Speaker 4 (36:04):
You got to make rooms sometimes. Who was it Lily
who just said about the buying plants?

Speaker 2 (36:09):
Millie Millie Million the poem.

Speaker 3 (36:11):
Yeah, so Millie, like, you know, make some room. So
here's what's not like what Brian just said, what's not
working for you anymore?

Speaker 4 (36:16):
In your yard?

Speaker 1 (36:17):
Right out? Here's something. I have these two king palms.
I want to keep them.

Speaker 2 (36:20):
You know, Millie has a good collect excuse me, Brian,
but she's got a good collection of plants too. It's
not just like petunias in Marigo she's got a lot
of unusual plants.

Speaker 1 (36:30):
Did Does customer have a theme around the already existing
king palms?

Speaker 3 (36:34):
Yeah, like it backs up to a a canyon, so
it's already very native looking, so it works.

Speaker 1 (36:40):
Could is there a way to change the look that
would still incorporate the king palms that are there?

Speaker 3 (36:46):
No, it's because king poms are not native and they're
very tropical. This isn't like a Mediterranean fan palm or
a pig. I could work with a pygmy day palm
or a Mediterranean fan because they actually do look a
little bit more native, but king palm.

Speaker 4 (37:01):
No, Yeah, it doesn't work.

Speaker 1 (37:04):
And they planted somebody planted them obviously at some point
in time.

Speaker 2 (37:07):
Yeah, I would have problems with that, just because you've
mentioned king palms and they're really desirable poems. They are,
they are, they're and they don't do that well inland either,
too much better on the coast.

Speaker 4 (37:19):
Yeah, the houses in Pacific Beach.

Speaker 2 (37:20):
So it would be like if you said you had
kenty as you were going to pull out, you know,
it's just like, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (37:26):
We are getting very close to our break. We've got
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head into the new year. Actually we're in the new year,
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(37:47):
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time when we get back to your resolutions, your questions,
your comments here on Facebook Live.

Speaker 2 (38:09):
John Yeah, our friend Lilah and Poway said that her
resolution is to get help.

Speaker 1 (38:17):
To get help, Yeah boy, get in line. Yeah for
that one.

Speaker 2 (38:22):
She came to the realization she can't do it by
herself anymore. You know, I've come to that realization too.
So far, I haven't gotten the help I need, but
I'm thinking more about it. You know, you get to
a certain age, and I don't know if it's supposed
to happen this way. But it's like one month you're fine,

(38:43):
nothing has changed. In the next month, it's like where
am I?

Speaker 1 (38:48):
Well, you went through this when you were a kid
between one and six, didn't you, Like.

Speaker 2 (38:53):
Well, that's just because I didn't. I didn't understand cause
and effect until I was six.

Speaker 1 (38:58):
Yeah, right, Well, when you don't know where you are,
what's better the cause of it?

Speaker 2 (39:04):
No, my memory is getting so bad.

Speaker 1 (39:07):
It's just really, you know what mine is getting better.
It's unbelievable. The names I remember, the places we build,
the things I see that when I was younger.

Speaker 2 (39:15):
I remember that all that. I'm just remembering, Like, you know,
I'll be working out in the garden and say, oh,
I got to go get a big potting soil, and
you know which is one hundred feet away, and halfway there,
I forget where I'm going.

Speaker 1 (39:30):
You know why, because you have too many things going
on all at once in your head.

Speaker 2 (39:33):
That's what I was thinking, right, what I was hoping.

Speaker 1 (39:35):
Because you're thinking about the potting soil, but in the meantime,
you're thinking about probably a dozen things at the same time.
Tonight tomorrow, Shannon got to do this the kids, and.

Speaker 2 (39:44):
Then that's true.

Speaker 1 (39:45):
You know, hey, look, I can remember being in high
school walking into a room and forgetting why I went
in there. You know, we all do that. You know,
that's why am I in here? You know? And then
you start to wonder, oh my gosh, really do you.

Speaker 3 (40:01):
Do you have a comment that you're going to mention?

Speaker 1 (40:06):
Did you or did you forget?

Speaker 2 (40:08):
Because there's a.

Speaker 4 (40:09):
There's a subject that when you do years and then
I'll do mine.

Speaker 2 (40:13):
Okay, Well, Veronica said that she got three plumeria cuttings
for Christmas and she wants to know what to do with.

Speaker 1 (40:20):
Them, especially this time of the year.

Speaker 2 (40:23):
Especially at this time of the year. The water right right,
So what I would do and Tiger you might have
some ideas too, But I would put them in either
cactus mix or a fast draining soil like fifty percent
pearl lighte with botting soil. I would probably moisten the
soil first and then let it dry out for a

(40:45):
day or two. Then I would put the cuttings in
that pot and with a steak because there's no route,
yeah yeah, and they'll fall over easily. But then you
don't need any more water, I would say.

Speaker 1 (40:56):
And the pearl light to make sure it's draining.

Speaker 2 (40:58):
Right, probably till spring. Right, Yeah, you don't want it
to hold moisture because the cutting's all rot if they're
cold and wet.

Speaker 1 (41:05):
Look, it has been so cold and damp and fog
lately that my plumeria, the pot it's still moist it's
I'm not touching it, yeah, because it's retaining whenever moisture
was there before winter.

Speaker 3 (41:16):
And then you know what John mentioned about staking it
or stabilizing the plant, because that's also critical because, like
he said, there's no roots on it right now, it
will begin to set roots as it warms up. And
the last thing you want is during that you know,
time where it's just setting those small roots, for it
to fall over because you break those roots and then

(41:36):
it just stresses and it resets the whole growth again.
That you want to make sure that that plant is
good and stable because during the time that it's setting
roots is when you're probably going to have a little
bit of a rainstorm, little windstorm, and you just don't
want it to fall over and then break those roots
and then have to restart again.

Speaker 1 (41:56):
And by the way. This might be a good time
to remind people. This is a good subject. If you
go to our YouTube channel back in was it October
when we had the remote from the Primeria show in
Ballabua Park all that information. I'm sure we touched upon that.
If you can find that on YouTube, just go to
our yeah YouTube page and click and go through all

(42:17):
the various shows and you'll find that and probably get
an answer to that and more. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (42:21):
Yeah, so yeah, no, that's a good thing to do.

Speaker 1 (42:24):
And then.

Speaker 3 (42:26):
I would keep them out of the direct cold because
you know John, you know, he when he planted his
on his slope, you know, you would think they're on
a slope, so they're not. They're not at the base
of a hill, you know, so you get that cool
air just flowing downwards.

Speaker 2 (42:44):
Not only would I think that, I did think that,
you know, you.

Speaker 3 (42:49):
Know, they were in a well draining area, but that
cold really snapped those So when they're the new cuttings,
keep them close to the house, keep them protected. You'll
be more likely to be able to protect them in
the case that there is a cold snap and you
don't have that frost problem or anything like that. Depending
on where you're at.

Speaker 2 (43:08):
Our friends in San Diego. Bill in the lane bought
the ac Infinity Rooting.

Speaker 4 (43:15):
Yeah, that little greenhouse box.

Speaker 2 (43:17):
Yeah yeah, they said they had seen it in my garage.
I told them how well it worked, and they said,
after sixteen days they have thirty two out of forty
of their cutting still green and half of those have.

Speaker 3 (43:30):
Roots also, right right.

Speaker 2 (43:35):
Eline's also the president of the Dahlia Society in San Diego.
But you know, it's just so hard to root roses period,
but especially in the winter, and to get that kind
of luck, it's it's amazing. So anyone who didn't hear
that show, if you go on Amazon, just like ac
Infinity Rooting box. And I think the important thing is

(43:59):
that heating pad that's on the bottom right, which you love.
I do.

Speaker 1 (44:03):
I do.

Speaker 2 (44:03):
I will put it on my back when I go
to bed.

Speaker 1 (44:07):
Yeah, because I noticed you got some thanks starting to
root on your back, So thank you for answering that.

Speaker 4 (44:13):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (44:15):
So one of the subjects I saw on the chat
right there with just the people, like you know, Johnan
mentioned asking for help or or getting some help in
the yard. And this is something that's a challenge for
some people is allowing somebody to come in and help
them do things right.

Speaker 1 (44:30):
Like it's personal.

Speaker 3 (44:31):
It is it is, you know, whether it's clean up
and weed or trim things back. Sometimes it's a financial thing,
you know, and I get that.

Speaker 4 (44:39):
You know, but but.

Speaker 3 (44:41):
You'll you'll make your your life a lot better for
you if you do allow for some help and also
allow for mistakes to be made. Meaning, you know, unless
you're going to be there, and I don't by no
means you want to hire a company and then micro
manager them. But you know, if you have seedlings coming up,

(45:04):
tell them don't weed this area, stay away from here. Yes,
tape it off, whatever it may be. If you don't
want them to prune something, you know, make sure you
convey that to them. Don't just assume they're going to know.
But but do allow them to come in and do
the things that you don't want or need to do.
If you've got a big lawn and you know your

(45:25):
weekend is dedicated to mowing the lawn, bring in a company,
let them mow the lawn and you can now plant
new flowers, weed the beds that you want, trim the
plants that you want, do that kind of stuff. Because
you know, a lot of the discussion is you know,
knowing your limits of what you can do in the garden,
and that is a good start, is by allowing someone

(45:47):
to come in and help you out with those. And
you know, this is something that it's a it's a
funny topic, but you know, I can't remember who it was,
but they mentioned family worked in the garden. For me
bringing my kids out, I do that. I bring them out,
teach them how to plant things, teach them how to
trim things and stuff like that. But that is something
that I feel like this generation needs, is they need

(46:09):
the they need the grandparents to work with them on
doing those because I feel my generation, the people my age,
we were not big gardeners.

Speaker 4 (46:19):
I think, you know, the the boomer.

Speaker 3 (46:22):
Generation was taught by their parents how to garden and
then they didn't want to so then you know, they
knew it, but they didn't necessarily do it. So then
my generation lost out on that carrying on the torch
of how to plant a garden, how to take care
of a garden.

Speaker 4 (46:37):
And now you.

Speaker 3 (46:38):
Know, the new generation doesn't have anybody to teach them.
And you know, like we're talking about the reason why
I think a lot of people.

Speaker 4 (46:46):
Why gardening shows are so.

Speaker 3 (46:48):
Popular is because people just don't know how to do it,
and you know, they're looking for the resources on how
to find out how to do it.

Speaker 1 (46:55):
You know. I it goes back in years before I
started doing the show, when I lived in Pacific Beach
and I would go to home deep when I would
just buy whatever I thought looked good.

Speaker 4 (47:05):
No idea.

Speaker 1 (47:05):
I did a name, and I had a four door car,
so I'm shoving stuff in the back seat and I
would go home and I would plan it. Did I
plant it in the right area? I don't know, but
you know what, ninety percent of what I planted grew
because I watered, I fertilized, and wasn't overly protective, but

(47:26):
kept an eye on it. Now, maybe it was just luck,
but I got no training. Nobody ever told me, you know.
And I did make one mistake though. On my driveway
had a driveway with a little small area, probably like
four feet wide, and I went and bought four or
five palms, queen palms, and I planted him in a

(47:46):
row right next to each other. Duh, what do you
think is gonna happen when those things start to grow
and spread out? You're gonna move exactly. Three would have
been enough at the time, But just little things like that. So, yeah, Tiger,
you're right. I never got an you know, And then
one time I started to learn a lot and Bruce
Asakawa told me, now you're dangerous because now you know
a little bit.

Speaker 2 (48:07):
And it was Bruce the one who used to say
about certain plants that they thrive on benign lie nine neglect.

Speaker 1 (48:13):
You're right on that note. We're going to take a
break back after these messages on biz talk radio. Hey,
I think we're back testing one, two, three, hot mic. Yes, indeed, John.

Speaker 2 (48:22):
Got some more questions and topics to discuss.

Speaker 1 (48:26):
Do it. Let's get funny into it. You know.

Speaker 2 (48:28):
I was Bill and Elane where we were just chatting
about their success with rooting cuttings, and they said that,
you know, next they're going to try it with delia cuttings.
But when they were at my house, this reminds me
of a topic I wanted to bring up with you, Tiger,
because I don't know the answer to this. But they

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saw a bottle of round up, and when rose growers see.

Speaker 1 (48:55):
Round up, did the eyebrows go up?

Speaker 2 (48:57):
Yeah, it's like, you know, you know that kills roses.
It used to be that you would spray round up
and if the wind was blowing at all, it would
go right to the roses and it would either kill
them or really distort the foliage. Yeah, but anyway, they
mentioned that and I I and you know, obviously I'm

(49:20):
not going to spray it on my roses and keep
it away. It's for other areas of the property. But
one of the things I was thinking, I looked at
the label to see what percentage of glyphis state it was,
and it was a different chemical. And so I'm wondering
why they changed the chemical, and do you know, does

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it work the same, is it still a systemic or.

Speaker 1 (49:45):
You can't remember the chemical they replaced it with.

Speaker 4 (49:47):
Is so I can't remember who I was talking with
about this, But.

Speaker 3 (49:54):
They changed it obviously because glycopia had such a bad name.
Nobody wanted to right. So at first off, when all
the problem and came out, it was rounded, rounded, round
of brown.

Speaker 4 (50:02):
That was the name.

Speaker 3 (50:03):
And then people started changing it to glycipate. So now
people started getting savvy to.

Speaker 2 (50:08):
It's because it was another products.

Speaker 3 (50:11):
Exactly right, But you know the the products that they
change it to are are actually worse than glycipate, because.

Speaker 2 (50:22):
Well, what I'm wondering is do you know? And you
maybe you don't know, but what it affects roses the
same way is that it is it a product that
maybe is safer to use around roses.

Speaker 4 (50:33):
I don't think so, because.

Speaker 2 (50:36):
I mean, you still don't want to spray it on
the roses. But the other was like certain death.

Speaker 1 (50:40):
Take a rose. You're kind of like, yeah, you can
live or die. Let me try this, just test it
on it.

Speaker 2 (50:45):
Yeah, I mean the Nazis did death, right.

Speaker 3 (50:49):
So the the new roundup is flu as the VP,
but all tea salt.

Speaker 4 (50:59):
It's a new things.

Speaker 1 (51:00):
Step out of the car, sir, you're slurring your words.

Speaker 3 (51:02):
Well, and the problem is is that so so glycipate,
in all of its badness, was an effective product, and
it did a good job. And it was a nert
when it went into the soil. So meaning if you
dropped the bottle of glacifate into the ground near any roots,
it actually didn't kill the plant, right.

Speaker 2 (51:19):
It w only killed through leaves, yeah, through cold and
even people. You could spray up to trunks on trees
and not hurt them.

Speaker 3 (51:27):
And not hurt the tree if your if your rose
was dormant and you accidentally sprayed.

Speaker 2 (51:32):
We see, I don't know about that.

Speaker 4 (51:33):
You know, you think it absorbed through the stem.

Speaker 2 (51:37):
Yeah, I think that roses were just specially sensitive. Yeah,
more so than anything.

Speaker 3 (51:43):
So so, but the problem with these new products that
are in round up from what I've heard, is that
they go into the soil. So now especially careful spraying
around your plants, because it can go into your soil
and it can affect the surrounding plants.

Speaker 1 (52:03):
Wudn't you have to be in that meeting at the
headquarters when they're going to change the you know, the
ingredients or this or that. Well, I wondered, but.

Speaker 3 (52:11):
It's in the name right there. You saw one of
the products was tea salt. Anytime you add salt right
into the soil.

Speaker 4 (52:18):
Going to create a problem.

Speaker 1 (52:19):
And would you change the pH to a degree by
adding salt.

Speaker 2 (52:23):
It depends on whether it's alkaline or acidic salt.

Speaker 3 (52:27):
But nonetheless, like anytime you put salt into a into
a product, you're you're creating a a bad situation for soil.
That's why we stay That's why we say stay away
from you know, chemical fertilizers. That's why we you know,
you know you you talk about you know, beach cities
and you know their their soils are very salty and

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things like that, and things get burned and all that,
because anytime you add salt to the soil, you're creating
a problem where glycophate and all of its badness, it
was pretty much just a foolier kill. It went into
the soil, didn't affect it the plants down below. So
so I think that the new recipe is actually worse,
and I think that they changed it to get away

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from the glaciate name.

Speaker 4 (53:13):
You know.

Speaker 2 (53:13):
Now, I think I saw roundup pro is a. Is
that the old formula.

Speaker 3 (53:20):
Yeah, so they still use that, okay, and you still
can get glycoate, but I know that the roundup product
that you buy on the shelves for consumers, they did
switch the recipe.

Speaker 2 (53:34):
Our friend Tony in Connecticut says that she thinks that
any herbicide's not good for roses, and it's probably true.

Speaker 1 (53:42):
You know.

Speaker 2 (53:42):
One of the one of the problems used to be
with mulches that they had used wheat killers on two
four D wheat killers because that would stick around and
you would put that around your plants and roses especially,
it would affect them.

Speaker 4 (53:55):
Yeah. Now was to keep in the mulch the weeds controlled.

Speaker 3 (53:59):
Right, Like that would kill the the weed seeds and.

Speaker 4 (54:02):
Things like that in mulches. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (54:04):
So she also points out that seven is another chemical
that they keep changing the ingredients.

Speaker 4 (54:11):
Well, especially in California.

Speaker 3 (54:13):
A lot of people will still see it on the shelf,
but it's not the same formulation, like you said, like
the percentage changes a lot, like some you know a
lot of times in Texas and Arizona you can find
it full strength, but in California it's like one percent
or whatever it is.

Speaker 2 (54:28):
I remember it was out lot in California, the original
seven chemical, and one of the companies came up with
a replacement product they call Date. Do you remember that.
I don't know if I don't think that went over much.

Speaker 4 (54:43):
That No, and I mean it just went It goes
back to kind of the marketing in the sense of people.
You know, you know, as soon as people see something
and they.

Speaker 3 (54:53):
Say they hear it's bad, you know, they stop using it,
which you know, I mean, do your research. I mean,
you know, you guys always talk about Bruce that labels
the law and it's the truth. I mean, you know,
if you use a product and you use it improperly,
you're gonna have problems. But if you do use it properly,
you should be you know, they, especially in California, they
do a lot of I think they're overly cautious, right, like,

(55:16):
you know, on on what they release and what they
allow you to do.

Speaker 2 (55:21):
Ridiculously. I think it was Carla wants to know if
diffen baki are hard to grow. She's got two that
are dead or dying.

Speaker 4 (55:34):
House plants. Yeah, yeah, no, I mean as houseplants are outside.

Speaker 2 (55:37):
Outside, they'd be very difficult in California.

Speaker 4 (55:40):
I'm thinking, I'm like, I don't think they will grow outside.

Speaker 2 (55:43):
In Costa Rica, no problem.

Speaker 4 (55:45):
So I'm just growing everyone.

Speaker 2 (55:47):
Yeah, one of the you know, there's new varieties of
all kinds of plants, and I think there's been some
improvements on deefenbaki over the years. I'm not sure, but
my experience with them is that they are high light plants.

Speaker 3 (56:01):
I was just gonna say that because people get the
mistake that an indoor plant requires little light.

Speaker 2 (56:07):
Right, And on Diefenbakia especially, they've got big leaves. So
if one leaf falls off, that's a lot, right, it's
the big way. Yeah, a big part of the plant
is missing. And also they need to be dry. They
need to be on the dry side.

Speaker 4 (56:21):
Yeah, and it's hard to do that inside sometimes.

Speaker 1 (56:23):
Yeah, it is break time again. We have two more
segments after this one, so hey, hang in there, let's
get some business done. Next segment a longer one, the
final segment a shorter one. As always, same format, same show,
Brian Main, John Bgnascar taking Palafox guard in America. We
are breaking for our friends on BIS talk Radio. All right,
we're back here, we are. The conversation continues. We've covered

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a lot of areas today. Not bad for coming back
after two dry weeks.

Speaker 2 (56:48):
Right, Yeah, you know Tiger janis in Brentwood. Our good
friend points out that fusillade is a product that you
can use en roses and it'll like it'll kill grass
and not.

Speaker 4 (57:03):
Herm Okay, so it's selective.

Speaker 2 (57:06):
Yeah, yeah, because Tony was saying any herbicide was bad
and uh, and I wasn't thinking of that, but yeah,
I few silt will kill grass and not hurt the roses.

Speaker 3 (57:14):
Yeah, and I heard that has to do with the
cell structures of the plants that they're able to identify
a lot of herbicides that you know will kill like
a broad leaved weed, but then you can use it
in your fescue lawn and not hurt the lawn. And
you know, they they the herbicides that you can use
to kill grass out of ice plants and and different
things like that.

Speaker 4 (57:33):
And sometimes I mean, you know, it's.

Speaker 3 (57:36):
Kind of like we talk a lot about pyrethrins and
spinosa and BT and you know, different herbicides and or
not in different pesticides, And it's a matter of being selective.

Speaker 4 (57:50):
So that way you you.

Speaker 3 (57:52):
Hurt what you don't want, but then you don't worry
about all the other things.

Speaker 4 (57:56):
So if you use very selective products, you.

Speaker 3 (57:59):
You're you're being you'll you'll you're being a bit more
careful than if you just use those all purpose ones.

Speaker 1 (58:06):
You know, I think that you're gonna say you always
hurt the ones you love.

Speaker 3 (58:10):
I think the worst the worst things on the market
for consumer are those like round up three sixty five
or those uh herbicide year long, because I mean, people
spray them and you know that's going straight into the soil,
and I mean we were just talking about our memory
or no, somebody in the chat was talking about.

Speaker 4 (58:30):
Their memory fading.

Speaker 3 (58:32):
And you know, I mean, if if John, you went
and sprayed round up three sixty five in an area
because you're like, you know what, I'm just gonna kill
all the weeds here and I don't want to take
care of it anymore.

Speaker 4 (58:42):
What's to say? In six months? You go, you know
what that looks?

Speaker 1 (58:44):
Are?

Speaker 4 (58:45):
You looks so beautiful.

Speaker 3 (58:46):
I'm gonna go plant all my roses in there, and
next thing, you know, all your roses die and you're like, oh, yeah,
that's right.

Speaker 2 (58:52):
I can't even remember where I planted pulps.

Speaker 1 (58:55):
What did you have for dinner last night?

Speaker 2 (58:57):
Ugh? What did I have? I had a cinnamon raisin
bagel with cream cheese.

Speaker 1 (59:03):
That was your dinner?

Speaker 4 (59:03):
Yeah, no, dinner.

Speaker 1 (59:04):
He looks so good. My gosh, Well, at least you
could remember.

Speaker 4 (59:10):
That, yeah, exactly.

Speaker 2 (59:13):
So well, if you would ask me breakfast, that would
have been different. But dinner, of course I could remember that.

Speaker 1 (59:19):
That sounded like breakfast to me. But what do I know?

Speaker 3 (59:22):
There was a question a while back, John, for you
from I think it was from Dana, but it might
have been someone else. Could you tell the difference between
store bought pasta and Shannon's?

Speaker 1 (59:31):
Oh that was Dans.

Speaker 2 (59:32):
Oh you know, absolutely yeah it if you make your
own pasta noodles, it's unbelievable. It would be like store
bought Tomali's for just making your own.

Speaker 4 (59:45):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (59:46):
Also, our buddy Kevin and Idaho wants to know, do
you ever cut roses and put him in a bouquete,
bring him into the house or you just leave him
outside all the time? Rarely do you do that? Rarely
do I bring them? See I do I when I
when I have a couple of two or three.

Speaker 2 (01:00:00):
In the house, what's that I'm not in the house.
I'm outside working with them, and I like to see
him out there.

Speaker 1 (01:00:06):
But when will you be allowed to go back into
the house.

Speaker 2 (01:00:10):
We we brought this topic up once before about how
I didn't like to cut roses, and one of our
listeners was pointed out very nicely that she likes to
cut them and give them to people so they can
enjoy them. I know, and I was.

Speaker 1 (01:00:27):
Thinking, you know, I bring him into the house.

Speaker 2 (01:00:30):
I should be more like.

Speaker 1 (01:00:31):
That, put them in the kitchen, and especially the ones
that have nice fragrance. I tell Danager, look what I
did for you. Yeah, looks at me and goes what
you did for me?

Speaker 2 (01:00:40):
We're talking about I had a rose. One of my roses.
One of the first ones that I created was a
polyanthe called Gwen Cleary, and there's virtually no scent to
polyantha roses, but this one was so strong that somebody
told me that they cut bouquet, put it in the kitchen,

(01:01:02):
walked into the house and the whole kitchen smell that
was so fragrant.

Speaker 1 (01:01:06):
That's nice, I know.

Speaker 2 (01:01:07):
And that rose is virtually extinct. So I was able
to get one plant, and I'm trying to get some cuttings.
Aralin Roses said that they'd be happy to look at
producing it again, So I think it's one of the
best roses I ever did.

Speaker 4 (01:01:22):
Is there a strongest fragrance rose?

Speaker 2 (01:01:26):
There's the James Alexander Gamble Fragrance Award that the American
Rose Society gives out, and I think there's about you.
I haven't kept up to date, but I think there's
about thirty roses of all time that have made that list.
Would in there, mister Lincoln's there. Double Delight delight.

Speaker 3 (01:01:49):
But but I'm sure that that is not necessarily on
the strength. It's probably more also the actual fragrance itself,
like it's a it's a great fragrance.

Speaker 2 (01:01:59):
No, it's well yeah, or is it the No, it's
the strength strength, like these are the most most Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:02:06):
Do you have a mister Lincoln rose. I don't think
i've ever se.

Speaker 2 (01:02:12):
I'm not sure if I did be a nice fragment rose?
Did I give you one?

Speaker 1 (01:02:16):
No?

Speaker 4 (01:02:16):
You gave me chrystl Imperial.

Speaker 1 (01:02:18):
Yeah, let's look into that. It was.

Speaker 2 (01:02:21):
You know, back when I had a smaller yard, any
rose that you could buy at the store, I didn't have.
I matter of fact, I used to give presentations called
roses my neighbor doesn't grow, because my philosophy always was
if my neighbor grows it, I'll go I'll go. No,

(01:02:43):
I'll go next door and look at it. If I
want to see it, I'm going to grow something he
doesn't grow. So, but now with three acres, I can
pretty much grow anything I want.

Speaker 4 (01:02:52):
It's like, if your neighbor has a lemon tree, there's
no reason for you to have a lemon tary pick.
The lemons make friends.

Speaker 2 (01:02:58):
Is there any reason for anyone to have a lemon tree.
I mean, here we go, and let me tell you why.
I'm thinking you have two and a half minutes. Okay, Well,
there was a lemon tree on my property that I
brought back, a Meyer lemon, which a lot of people like. Right, yeah, okay, right,
Now it's probably got one hundred and fifty lemons on it.

(01:03:18):
And you know, Shannon told me to pick some lemons.
Go out there, pick four lemons. They've been in the
pantry for months.

Speaker 4 (01:03:24):
Now, go pick four more.

Speaker 1 (01:03:26):
Right. That's why people bring all their lemons to work. Yeah,
you know, big bags, because it's not it's not a
fruit or something that you're going to consume every day
or you know, like it's not like an apple, it's.

Speaker 2 (01:03:38):
Not like one. Here's the point is, Yeah, when do.

Speaker 1 (01:03:41):
You use a lemon except for cooking? Or Right?

Speaker 2 (01:03:43):
So I need to plant other citrus on my property. Right,
So I go and get citrus trees and plant them.
And what do I have three more lemon trees?

Speaker 1 (01:03:53):
What?

Speaker 4 (01:03:54):
Why?

Speaker 1 (01:03:54):
Why?

Speaker 4 (01:03:55):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:03:56):
One was because I got a lemon that was very
similar to the one that we saw in mentone, France.

Speaker 1 (01:04:03):
Do you remember, yeah? Is that the place where the
swap meat was.

Speaker 2 (01:04:08):
No, No, that was down south.

Speaker 4 (01:04:10):
What was that lemon called you guys always talked about it.

Speaker 2 (01:04:14):
The mentone lemon. The mentone lemon was a variety of
the genoa lemone. So anyway, I got a couple of
rare lemon varieties, and now they're starting to fruit too.
But yeah, it'd be nice to have something else, you know,
something you could eat.

Speaker 1 (01:04:32):
Make lemonade in the summertime.

Speaker 2 (01:04:33):
My neighbor across the street likes the lemons, so I said,
you know, every now and then she'll say, can I
have a lemon? And I give her a five gallon
kit full of lemons. I said, please come pick.

Speaker 1 (01:04:43):
What correlation between you know, the name lemon and when
you get a car that's no good? The association was
that sour? Okay? Really? Yeah, sower like.

Speaker 4 (01:04:55):
It's a bad car. It's a sour car.

Speaker 1 (01:04:57):
I like sour.

Speaker 2 (01:04:58):
Well, you know, the and trees very pretty, Brian, that's
a song, and the lemon flowers sweet. But the fruit
of the Portland Triny Lopez, it's impossible to eat Lopez.

Speaker 4 (01:05:10):
Lemon tree is stating facts.

Speaker 1 (01:05:12):
Now it's a lemon, this is lemon tree, and Peter
Paula Mary might have done it too.

Speaker 2 (01:05:16):
I have a friend in the Rose Society who I
won't mention her name, but she used to date Trinie Lopez.

Speaker 1 (01:05:23):
Really, yeah, he was big in the early sixties, mid sixties.

Speaker 2 (01:05:28):
Yeah, I think he did it was did he do.

Speaker 1 (01:05:31):
If I had a hammer, if I had a hand.
So did Peter Paul and Mary? Right, they both kind
of did the same.

Speaker 2 (01:05:35):
I think Peter Paul and Mary wrote it right back
in the Either that or they always sang Bob Dylan song.

Speaker 1 (01:05:40):
Yeah, everybody was singing Bob Dylan songs and making hits
out of songs that he wrote.

Speaker 2 (01:05:45):
Yeah, that could actually be sunk. Let me hear Let
me hear those words, Bob if they're sun Yeah, right
with a pleasant voice.

Speaker 1 (01:05:54):
Speaking of Bob Dylan, there's I guess a movie, oh knew.

Speaker 2 (01:05:58):
But yeah, yeah, then something like it's something like a
total unknown.

Speaker 1 (01:06:03):
If I were a complete unknown that comes out of
one of his songs, The complete unknown like a rolling
stone got about a minute.

Speaker 2 (01:06:14):
Kevin said that I should eat eat more fish.

Speaker 4 (01:06:17):
Oh yeah, you need lemon.

Speaker 1 (01:06:18):
You don't have enough. You don't have enough mercury in
your system.

Speaker 2 (01:06:21):
You could use lemons.

Speaker 4 (01:06:22):
You won't get any scurvy, right.

Speaker 1 (01:06:24):
No, we we cooked salmon early last week and lemon
no target soft enough, just lemon.

Speaker 2 (01:06:31):
Lennon says. She freezes the juice and in ice cube
trays and she can use it later on.

Speaker 4 (01:06:36):
Yeah, a lot of people will do that and just
add it to their water.

Speaker 1 (01:06:39):
Give that a bad idea. There you go.

Speaker 2 (01:06:40):
By the way, Tony says that that movie is great.

Speaker 1 (01:06:44):
I'm hearing too. Yeah, it's a young guy does a
great Bob.

Speaker 2 (01:06:47):
Dylan complete unknown.

Speaker 1 (01:06:49):
Huh. Yeah, I don't have to watch it. Hey, it's
break time. One more segment, ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls,
So stay with us bistok Radio, Facebook, Li, I'm gonna
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well just like that. Look at all the people that
have hung in there with us from beginning to the end.

(01:07:11):
A couple of people left them, went up the aisles.
But then last year, yeah, still they were still waiting
two weeks. That's what I call it. Patience. Nicely done.

Speaker 2 (01:07:19):
I love our listeners. Brian absolutely. Carla points out lambs
or lines, limes, lins worse or worse. Yeah, you know,
not only are they worse. I have an allergy to lines.
Really and for for I think it was before Christmas.

(01:07:41):
Was my wife's business Christmas. No, no, it was our
Bible study Christmas party. Anyway, people came over and I
made a drink, kind of a punch with different fruits
and things, and and one of part of the ingredients
is the squeak the lime in it. And it's been

(01:08:02):
so long since I'd used limes, like years, that I thought,
you know, oh, I can just go ahead and squeeze it. Well,
this is now going on six weeks later, and I
still have the rash from the squeezing the lime.

Speaker 1 (01:08:16):
Really, I thought you're gonna say you had a cut
on your finger when you squeezed it. The juice got
into your cut.

Speaker 2 (01:08:22):
I don't know if that would hurt anything. Right now,
it's it's evolved and devolved into just kind of a
rough area, rough area skin. But the reason I did
that because I knew it was allergic to limes. But
I always thought it was strictly a photophidodermatitis, that it
had to be activated by the sunlight. But apparently not anymore.

Speaker 1 (01:08:45):
I think that's overthinking it. The photosynthesis of the photocytists
or the lemons during the noontime of the day on
a Monday. What do you think are we up to date? Miss?

Speaker 3 (01:08:58):
Anybody Dana wants lemons though, So just so you know,
you might be going home with a fiveallon bucket of
lemons next room.

Speaker 1 (01:09:04):
I mean, I mean two or three not bad.

Speaker 2 (01:09:07):
Well, you know there's that I can't remember. I think
it might have been a friend of Lance Walheims wrote
a book on cooking with Meyer lemons. Oh do you
remember that.

Speaker 4 (01:09:16):
I don't know if it was Lance.

Speaker 2 (01:09:17):
I don't know well with someone anyway, but I have
that recipe book, so maybe I should look at that.

Speaker 1 (01:09:23):
Yeah, isn't there really really old lementry up in Los
Angeles some place? There's even a plaque around it. Been
there since what was that nineteen oh six or something?

Speaker 3 (01:09:32):
It was like the oldest citrus and it was in
UC Davis or something.

Speaker 4 (01:09:36):
Was it a lemon or an orange?

Speaker 2 (01:09:37):
I can't remember the I think what you guys may
be thinking of is that that one hotel up there
are the original Washington Naval Orange Tree. Yeah, maybe that
there were three that came to this country from somewhere
in South America, Brazil or somewhere, and they were planted
and two of them are still alive.

Speaker 1 (01:09:58):
It's like that light bulb in England that's O burning.

Speaker 3 (01:10:01):
I like Tony's comment. I cannot keep mister Lincoln alive
in my garden. I buy one almost every year.

Speaker 4 (01:10:08):
Why why why.

Speaker 2 (01:10:10):
You know Tony should try maybe the perennial variety instead
of the annual mister. You know, mister Lincoln is extremely fragrant,
but it does have mildew problems and in cooler climates,
you know, maybe a problem. Even in California. I would
say maybe along the coast, you know, you'd have to

(01:10:31):
watch out for MILDEWO.

Speaker 1 (01:10:32):
Somebody said it was in Riverside. Yeah, citrus we're talking
about right right, Okay.

Speaker 3 (01:10:38):
Paula said. I was gifted two orchids and VA to
keep them healthy. That is something that I've started last
year as there was an area in my yard where
it was a bit protected, and so I put a
mister system that is attached to my irrigation system in
all my orchids that I kind of collect over the
year that go out of bloom. I just throw them
there and not throw them, but set them there. And

(01:11:00):
if they survive and they flower again, great, and if
they don't, oh so be it. But it's fun to have,
like I've got yeah, I've got or kids, I got failings.
I got bromeliads over there. I even put this cardboard
plant what's it called, that was inside and not doing

(01:11:24):
so well, so I took it out there was like,
if it makes it, it makes it. It's my little
uh indoor plant hospital.

Speaker 2 (01:11:30):
You see Jarwinian care system on those plants. Yes, survival
now uh failing OPSI orcids you can't put there though
they won't they won't survive.

Speaker 4 (01:11:44):
Well, I don't know, we'll see they're there.

Speaker 2 (01:11:48):
I've got one outside that I put in a planner
that you know, it's one of the ones that you
know it's gonna get thrown out because it's lived it's usefulness,
outlived its usefulness. And I put in a planner with
some ferns and it actually was growing and put out
a new bloom spike. But now even though it's right
up against the house, it's the leaves are turning kind

(01:12:10):
of that purply color that you know they're going to
fall off and die pretty soon.

Speaker 4 (01:12:16):
And it's only going to get worse in the next
couple of months. Right, It's kind of like if it's
doing it now, it won't last for the next few months.

Speaker 1 (01:12:22):
I like what you're doing, though, good luck. Yeah, you
don't see what happens.

Speaker 3 (01:12:26):
Yeah, it's nice to have that space because we always
have those indoor plants that sometimes struggle, but.

Speaker 1 (01:12:34):
Our fake houseplants are doing well.

Speaker 2 (01:12:39):
I noticed the Ficus benjamina behind you did lose a
few leaves though, Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:12:44):
And they're at the bottom. It's a really natural look.

Speaker 4 (01:12:47):
I mean it turned my camera with people to be
able to see.

Speaker 1 (01:12:49):
I think that would looks pretty good.

Speaker 2 (01:12:50):
The uh, yeah, it does because they used real wood
to glue the leaves, all the leaves on.

Speaker 4 (01:12:56):
Yeah, that thing there.

Speaker 3 (01:13:01):
It's funny when we walk in here and I see
leaves on the ground on that and leave them.

Speaker 1 (01:13:08):
I don't know what I'm going to do with that thing. Okay,
about a minute to go, guys, Just like that. Wow,
sailing through today.

Speaker 2 (01:13:17):
It was a it was a fast show, you know.
Yesterday I talked to my cousin for the first time
in a long time. Cousin, I grew up with. And
it was the longest phone call of my entire life. Yeah,
I look at your phone.

Speaker 1 (01:13:31):
Look at it. That counted down the time three hours. Really.

Speaker 4 (01:13:34):
Yeah, that's a cool conversation conversation.

Speaker 2 (01:13:37):
Well, yeah, I think it's probably the first time and
maybe maybe six or seven years I talked to him.

Speaker 4 (01:13:43):
Wow, but you know, catch up on.

Speaker 2 (01:13:45):
Yeah, so it was amazing how good my memory was.
But we did talk about memory, and I said, you
know what, you can call me next month and we
can have another long conversation because I don't think I'll
remember any of this.

Speaker 1 (01:13:59):
Well, guys, that's it for the first show twenty twenty five.

Speaker 4 (01:14:03):
Next week, Ornamental Grasses.

Speaker 1 (01:14:04):
Ornamental Grasses next week.

Speaker 2 (01:14:06):
Kevin has an idea too. He says he wants to
see a show on organic gardening and which fertilizers and
herbicides are good to use.

Speaker 1 (01:14:14):
Okay, all right, we'll file that away. Thank you so
much for tuning into this first show. Hope you had
a good holiday season, Christmas and New Year's everything going
on these days. Here we are January twenty twenty five.
We are back next week. No, we're not going to
take another couple of weeks off. We are back next week.
Thank you for joining us. For the entire crew, I'm
Brian Maintager, Palafox, John Bgnasco. Have a safe rest of
your weekend, a safe week, and we'll do it again

(01:14:36):
next week right here Garden America for twenty twenty five.
Stay safe,

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