Gardening Tips & Tricks Q&A - Garden America Podcasts & Radio Show [2.15.25] - Garden America - Gardening Podcast & Talk Radio Show

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
And there you are welcome once again. Now we were
off last week. I know it seems forever. It seems
like it was a month or so. But the boys
are back in town. We are back here on Guarding America.
I'm Brian Main, John Begnasco, Tiger Palafox. Ready to talk
about gardening, horticulture. Let's talk about some of the rainy
weather we've had here in southern California. Let's talk about
time zones. Boy, I almost said something else after that,

(00:23):
talk about a quick filter has to do with zones. John,
you're right, Hi, Tiger, Welcome, Hi John. What's going on?
We are back. You know, when you're off for a
week or so, you got to get warmed up. You
got to shake the cobwebs off. And I'm gonna toss
it to John Becasse. He's thinking about what I was
thinking about, and let's see what he has to say
about everything.

Speaker 2 (00:42):
The first words that we're gonna come out of my mouth,
I'm gonna change the amount of rain that we had
at my house four inches.

Speaker 1 (00:51):
That I don't think we had four inches down here, Tiger, right.

Speaker 3 (00:54):
No, I actually over the three days, Yeah, I actually
saw in the news that it broke it down by areas,
and you know, Palomar Mountain was you know obviously number one.
That's our area that gets the most rain and snow,
usually San Diego International Airport. Whereas where San Diego when
they say the weather in San Diego rainfall and San

(01:14):
Diego takes their readings from was point seventy five inches,
which which is still a really good rainfall for the area.
But you know four inches, yeah that you know up
and fall Brook and some of the other areas, that's.

Speaker 1 (01:29):
A lot of rain.

Speaker 3 (01:30):
There was a lot of rain. Yeah, but it but
it was we were talking about this before the show.

Speaker 1 (01:34):
It wasn't it was Dady.

Speaker 3 (01:36):
It was what we needed in the way of it
rained a little bit on Thursday.

Speaker 1 (01:42):
Was it Thursday We're talking about a little more heavy shower.

Speaker 3 (01:45):
Yeah, it rained like a little bit on Wednesday, and
then Thursday was the heavy you know, more rain throughout
the day. And then Friday it was just intermittent downpours
here and there, or.

Speaker 1 (01:57):
A consistent if it was snowing, you'd call it a
consistent not light snow flurry flurry. Yeah, you take take
the snow trance, you know, look at rain the same way.
And it was just a light drizzle, but it was consistent,
not enough to cause flooding, but enough to soak the
ground well.

Speaker 3 (02:15):
And that's the thing is, you know, it's nice when
it soaks the ground because that's what the plants need,
that's what the garden needs. Is you know, it's one
thing to just downpour and then it all runs off
and goes into the street or into the.

Speaker 1 (02:27):
Say a light dusting in terms of snow. We had
a light dusting of rain. There you go.

Speaker 3 (02:32):
I couldn't but you know, whenever there's a little bit
of moisture in the soil. You know, I always tell
people soil is if you think it's dry soil, it's
like a wrung out sponge. Initially it repels water just
like a sponge repels water. But once it is damp,
it actually absorbs water like a sponge does. And but

(02:52):
you have to get it to be damp in the beginning,
otherwise if you can dump ten gallons of water on,
it's just gonna run right off.

Speaker 2 (02:59):
I I tried to get a lot of things planted
before the rain. Nice and because I'm working on that
one hill and where the old garden roses are and
I put a mulch on it after I plant, and
after that first rain, you know, it was really really light, right, dismissing,

(03:21):
and I think we got I think maybe half an
inch is when I measured that first day. And then
I went out in between the rainfall and just scratch
the surface of the mulch and it was dry underneath. Yeah,
like you're saying it takes a while to penetrate. Yeah,
that's the way all that's the way it has to go.

(03:42):
It's got to be you know, a little at a
time in order for it not to run off and
just wash everything away.

Speaker 3 (03:49):
And that's like when we talk about potted plants. You know,
these people would be like, oh, no, I watered it.
Yeah you did, but the soil was dry when you
watered it. That wouldn't even go into the roots. It
didn't saturate the soil. And it's the same thing for
plants in the ground is that it needs You need
to water it and then you come back, you water
a little more, and you come back and then you
soak it. And that's the best way to do it.

Speaker 2 (04:09):
But I see a mutual admiration society going on on
our Facebook, all our listeners complimenting each other on their
pictures in the newsletter.

Speaker 1 (04:20):
Oh yeah, yeah, you know, I think the tulips as well.
I'm a big tulip guy. Anyway, that's what I got.

Speaker 2 (04:25):
Nice to see my wife for Valentine's Did you tulips?
Some pot of tulips?

Speaker 3 (04:30):
Yeah? I mean, you can't get a roses, that's just
that's just.

Speaker 2 (04:33):
No salt injury.

Speaker 1 (04:36):
You can't kind of hydrange your bloom this time of
the year, so I guess.

Speaker 2 (04:39):
But the reason I wanted to bring up the pictures,
which we always appreciate, is I think Lisa sent me
a nice picture what I will which I will put
in next week's newsletter. But the newsletter is usually finished
by Wednesday, so if I get one picture on, you know,
late Wednesday or Thursday, it won't make in that week.

Speaker 1 (05:01):
You deserve and you deserved it, you know. It's like
a newspaper.

Speaker 2 (05:04):
There used to be a snail bait called deadline.

Speaker 1 (05:07):
Do you remember that?

Speaker 2 (05:07):
Yeah, yeah, it was a liquid one.

Speaker 1 (05:09):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (05:11):
I don't think they make that anymore, do they. I
haven't seen it for a lone thing, you.

Speaker 3 (05:15):
Know, I mean for California, they've gotten so slimmed down
on all the different products that you know, there's a
lot of those that probably still exist elsewhere, but not
in California.

Speaker 1 (05:25):
Like maybe in Europe.

Speaker 3 (05:26):
Yeah, yeah, exactly inside joke, yep.

Speaker 1 (05:29):
You know that.

Speaker 2 (05:30):
Did you know that snails can spontaneously generate after it rains,
just like because like I had none anywhere.

Speaker 1 (05:38):
That's like just like, well they all come out of
it when the brain hits the.

Speaker 2 (05:42):
Ground and they just pop out. Yeah, I mean we
were everywhere, they weren't hiding.

Speaker 1 (05:49):
We haven't any snails, so, like I mentioned a few
weeks ago, for a long.

Speaker 2 (05:53):
Time, I still want some killer snails. If they ever
come back on the market.

Speaker 1 (05:58):
They take the market.

Speaker 2 (05:59):
Yeah, we haven't been. Finally, it's been over a year
last year, none available anywhere.

Speaker 1 (06:05):
I wonder what's eating them?

Speaker 2 (06:08):
Well? Killers? Yeah? You any birds.

Speaker 3 (06:15):
Of snails?

Speaker 1 (06:17):
You know what? Ever, since we started feeding birds in
the patio, or I should say, Dana, I've seen so
many species of birds that I never knew existed in
our area.

Speaker 3 (06:28):
Really.

Speaker 1 (06:29):
Oh yeah, okay, you've got the doves, Okay, yeah, that's sparrels,
the finches. Now we've got birds that look like cardinals,
which I know they're not. I guess we have rials
to a degree here.

Speaker 3 (06:38):
Yeah, we do have some oriioals, but all these like
redbirds though you have like a cardinal, like a red.

Speaker 1 (06:43):
The size of a cardinal. It doesn't have the little
crest on the top, but looks just.

Speaker 2 (06:48):
Like it red. It's the red robins.

Speaker 1 (06:55):
But he wasn't bob bob bobbing along.

Speaker 2 (06:57):
You missed that part.

Speaker 3 (06:58):
Yeah, they do that before they get to the feet,
the red.

Speaker 1 (07:01):
Red robin usually bob bob bob and along. But he Yeah. Anyway,
so this.

Speaker 2 (07:06):
Was a big thing in Michigan. We would always wait
for the first robin of spring.

Speaker 3 (07:10):
Really.

Speaker 2 (07:11):
Yeah, that's not because they would migrate.

Speaker 3 (07:13):
You there, it was starting.

Speaker 2 (07:15):
That's when you knew spring was almost there.

Speaker 3 (07:17):
So that was like your your groundhog.

Speaker 2 (07:20):
Yeah, yeah, really was here first robin of spring. And
when I moved to California, I missed Robin's they you know,
you hardly ever saw any Yeah, and then you know,
but lately it seems we've been seeing more of them,
more birds, more robins, right, well, Robin's a bird.

Speaker 3 (07:37):
Well, you're just seeing more birds because you feed them, like.

Speaker 1 (07:39):
You say, yeah, I know. And then the word gets out.
Oh yeah, and then it's interesting to watch some of
the bullies out there that will chase other birds away
because of the food.

Speaker 3 (07:47):
It's just an interesting thing to want question to our
listeners too about you know, the bird feeder out there,
because what bird food do you put out there? Is
it a specific bird food for specific birds or do
you just put that like gour made.

Speaker 1 (08:03):
It's for specific birds. Years ago when John and I
and we went back to was was it Bayer or
was it the.

Speaker 2 (08:11):
Scott Scott's in Mary'sville, Ohio and they had they're mythologists.

Speaker 1 (08:15):
Yeah, their big push that year was different birds for
different regions, different states, different part of the country, right,
and it was very interesting and they took us on
this tour. So to get back to your question, it's
just it's it's it's a general bird food skewed towards
certain birds.

Speaker 3 (08:35):
West Coast, southern California bird for the most because you're
not putting like, I don't know, like pine nuts you know,
from back east into your bird food.

Speaker 1 (08:42):
Noir. But if you want to have Dane on the
program as a guest for ten or fifteen minutes, she
can answer all these questions. Yeah, because she goes out there.
She everything's methodical in this and that I thought.

Speaker 2 (08:51):
You're going to say, speaking of pine nuts.

Speaker 1 (08:54):
And also there's the squirrel food too, because we have
a squirrel which we named Tarpi, and Tarba shows up.

Speaker 3 (09:00):
You actually feed Tarby.

Speaker 1 (09:02):
He feeds Tarpy, and Tarpy we named him Tarpy.

Speaker 3 (09:06):
What do you feed tarpy?

Speaker 1 (09:08):
Blueberries? Nuts?

Speaker 3 (09:10):
Blueberries? Blueberries are expensive.

Speaker 1 (09:12):
But they're merely they're bad this time of year. Talkers
don't get mad at me.

Speaker 3 (09:17):
I'm not getting mad at you. I'm impressed.

Speaker 1 (09:18):
But but Tarpi comes in. He'll sit there and he
puts everything in his mouth, you know, as squirrels do,
and he runs away, probably stashes that comes back and
then he's.

Speaker 2 (09:26):
Gone, Hey, I've got if you want to feed him,
I've got some ground squirrel bait.

Speaker 1 (09:31):
I'll bet you. Hey. We have about a minute until
our first break, which will segue into the second segment,
just in time for John's quote of the day or
the week, I should say. And by the way, case
you're wondering those at home no guests today.

Speaker 2 (09:46):
Oh, but if you read the news letter question, But
if you read the newsletter, you'd know it. So we're
not going to do the quote till we come back.

Speaker 1 (09:51):
No, let's do it now. We got a minute, all right.

Speaker 2 (09:53):
The quote is from Alfred Lord Tennyson and it was
in honor of It's the way I think of you
and Brian, but it's also an honor of Valentine's state.

Speaker 1 (10:04):
Okay, And the quote.

Speaker 2 (10:06):
Is, if I had a flower for every time I
thought of you, I could walk through my garden forever.

Speaker 1 (10:12):
It's pretty heavy. Well, you know, too bad. I didn't
know that in high school. I could have used that
line a dozen times.

Speaker 3 (10:18):
John can still use that. There's a flower for every
time John thinks of anyone in his garden.

Speaker 1 (10:24):
We're gonna take a break welcoming those on radio.

Speaker 2 (10:27):
Give you flowers, you know, every time you pass that
it reminds you of them.

Speaker 1 (10:31):
Welcome to Bistalk Radio. I'm going to take a break
for these messages. A big thank you to our major sponsor,
firt A Loan. It's Garden America back after these messages
on bis Talk Radio. Okay, Hey, lucky for us and
lucky for you, we're back after that break. Thanks to
those who do tune in on bistalk radio the rest
of you on Facebook Live. John does have a I
guess you could call it some advice or a hint

(10:53):
to better enjoy the program. Make sure you turn the
volume up. It usually works a little better if you
care about the dialogue and the pontification that goes back
and forth.

Speaker 2 (11:03):
Right, you know pine nutt I planted a pine nut tree.

Speaker 1 (11:11):
Did you?

Speaker 3 (11:11):
Yeah, well that's right, I think I remember. How's it doing?

Speaker 1 (11:16):
It's incredulous. Not yet.

Speaker 2 (11:19):
It's grown very slowly, and I think in southern California anyway,
they do grow really slow. They're not big trees, right,
I didn't think they were, Yeah, which is why I
planted it.

Speaker 3 (11:30):
Uh huh.

Speaker 2 (11:31):
But now I'm wondering, Oh really, yeah, why I don't
think I'll have to worry. I mean it's been there
for two years and it's only grown an inch.

Speaker 3 (11:40):
Right, Like I thought they were kind of like almost
like a like a rugo pine kind of a thing.

Speaker 2 (11:44):
I don't think that small.

Speaker 1 (11:46):
An inch in a year?

Speaker 2 (11:47):
Yeah, inch in a year to two years? Wow, Maybe
I'll fertilize it.

Speaker 1 (11:55):
A little water, some soil. See what happened when I
whereabouts on the property? Is it look at looking at
your patio doors, the slanting last doors.

Speaker 2 (12:02):
No, it's coming up the driveway or the driveway on
the right along the road. It's on the hillside along
the road.

Speaker 1 (12:09):
That's why it's slow growing.

Speaker 2 (12:11):
Yeah, it's near the Cedar of Lebanon. Hey, go ahead.

Speaker 3 (12:18):
Does you know your neighbor has all those are they
goats on the.

Speaker 2 (12:23):
Hillside across the street?

Speaker 3 (12:24):
Yeah, how's that hillside doing?

Speaker 1 (12:27):
Do they get everything? Well?

Speaker 3 (12:29):
They it's barren.

Speaker 1 (12:30):
It's barren because everything.

Speaker 3 (12:32):
Yeah, that's what happens. And with all it's a very
steep slope.

Speaker 1 (12:37):
And you know you worried about water runoff.

Speaker 3 (12:41):
Oh, I can only imagine it's washing away.

Speaker 2 (12:43):
You know the green Waist street cycle bins. Yes, I
usually fill two to three every week and they're completely full.
And now that you mentioned this, my neighbor said, you know,
if you want to use my cans, you can use
them because obviously and she said, just put them on
my property and I'll use it to feed the goats. Oh,

(13:06):
you know, that's a pretty big bill she's got. Yeah,
what thirty forty goats down there.

Speaker 3 (13:11):
Yeah, but but it's a very steep slope, and you know,
with all the you know, you know you've seen all
the fire areas and the rain and the hillsides now
washing away, and you know, I just thought about that
because that's right across the street from John and it's
a very steep hill. And you know, goats are wonderful

(13:33):
for when you have a lot of weeds and debris
and you need them to clean it out.

Speaker 1 (13:36):
But now there's nothing for them to eat. Yeah, what
are they eating now?

Speaker 3 (13:40):
Well she has to feed them?

Speaker 2 (13:41):
Yeah, well no, but so some hay and crane.

Speaker 3 (13:44):
Just like you feed these Hey, yeah, Dana, that squirrel
will find its own food. You do not need to
get blueberries and filet mignon.

Speaker 1 (13:55):
It's like in and out. Your patio is like in
and out.

Speaker 3 (13:58):
Yeah, but it's like a high class it is. This
is like, I know, it's like a habit bird.

Speaker 1 (14:03):
There's three or four course meals and you can order
all the cart and there's appetizers. But getting back to
the blueberries, and I said they were kind of mealy
and squishing people. There used to be a time when.

Speaker 2 (14:15):
They were mealy and squishy people.

Speaker 1 (14:18):
Now you get you get that way as you get older.
But there used to be a time when seasons were
a fruit was in season.

Speaker 3 (14:24):
Yeah, oh yeah.

Speaker 1 (14:25):
Nowadays people want fruit all year long. And that's why
you go in to get blueberries now and you're you're
rolling the dice because fruit wasn't that fruit, and some
of the fruit was not meant to be eaten and
enjoyed this time of the year, right, So don't be
surprised when you go in there and your apple doesn't
taste as good, or your blueberry doesn't taste as good,
or your tomatoes or mealy. That's what you get because

(14:48):
that's what you wanted.

Speaker 3 (14:49):
And that's what we were talking with was it ed
la blah a while back about exactly the problem is
is now there's a lot of fruit that doesn't taste good,
and now people don't get excited to buy the apple,
the orange or whatever it is.

Speaker 1 (15:04):
We talked about what the weather conditions like, you know,
how long did it take the truck to get to
the so many things that can happen.

Speaker 3 (15:11):
But squirrels don't care.

Speaker 1 (15:13):
Squirrels don't care. They can enjoy the blueberries and the nuts.

Speaker 3 (15:17):
I can't believe you feed them blueberries. I can't get
over this.

Speaker 2 (15:21):
I bought two blueberries. Plants, yeah, plants, nuts.

Speaker 3 (15:25):
I was like, that must be impressive blueberries.

Speaker 2 (15:27):
I don't think they sell blueberries.

Speaker 3 (15:30):
I don't know. It could have been the size of
like a ping pong.

Speaker 1 (15:32):
I don't think Dan is listening because she hasn't chimed
in yet. She would defend herself.

Speaker 3 (15:36):
Yeah, she's holding not holding her own over there. Did
you plant them, John, the blueberries?

Speaker 2 (15:43):
Not yet. I had intended to put them in. I
had two pots. I intended to plant those pots up on,
one blueberry in each, and then my wife decided she
wanted those back in the front of the house, the
pots the pots. So the pods have two fight us
with white pansies at the bottom. Wow, maybe I'll take

(16:06):
a picture for the newsletter next year.

Speaker 3 (16:09):
Oh hey, blueberries are they? What's the big one O'Neill? No, no, no,
it starts with an m majesty.

Speaker 2 (16:17):
It starts with the nests, and it's not sunshine, blue
or shark.

Speaker 1 (16:21):
I'm still concerned he's going to lose his train of
thought when he said hey, hey, and then we went
to the blueberry conversation.

Speaker 3 (16:26):
I'll keep track of that for him.

Speaker 2 (16:27):
Then, Oh yeah, thanks for bringing I did lose my train,
and you put me back on track.

Speaker 1 (16:32):
Shoot you baby.

Speaker 2 (16:35):
Listen last week we weren't here, but listeners listening to
us this week. If you read last week's snoozeletter. I
wanted to thank Paula for for letting us know about
the video that Ruth Stout had made. You know, Paula
said when she was in New York, she heard Ruth

(16:56):
address a garden club, and I put a link to
the video in our newsletter. If you did not see
that video, you really gotta want to watch it. It's hilarious.
And if you don't have the newsletter, I think if
you just go to face or to YouTube and put

(17:17):
Ruth's Stouts garden, the video will come up.

Speaker 1 (17:21):
Well why not just subscribe to the newsletter.

Speaker 2 (17:23):
Well, it's too late. I already posted a.

Speaker 1 (17:25):
Yeah, but I mean, in general, I'm sure there'll be
other fascinating videos.

Speaker 3 (17:30):
Miss that on the next one.

Speaker 1 (17:31):
Yeah, exactly. So I see all the people we have
names of all the people that we can see right
now watching us on Facebook Live. I wonder what the
percentage is of those people who get the newsletter.

Speaker 2 (17:42):
You know, And it's only a dollar a month, twelve
dollars a year. It's that's not bad, right, how do we.

Speaker 1 (17:49):
Do it, John, volume? We actually do a volume. We
don't charge for that.

Speaker 2 (17:55):
Actually, we've been thinking about it, but so far there
is no charge. And it's uh, we've been thinking about
this for fifteen years, and fifteen years there's been no charge.

Speaker 1 (18:07):
We never make any hasty decisions. No, no, why start
now right? Any questions or comments? Are we caught up
on anything?

Speaker 3 (18:16):
Well, I don't have a branch fall through their greenhouse? Was that, Lisa?

Speaker 1 (18:21):
And I know Lenora wanted to know if she gets
a discount on fertile Lom. I saw that. Oh yeah,
good question, leonor tiger dude.

Speaker 2 (18:29):
What Leonora wants to know she can get a discount
on fertilo on fertilom? What anything?

Speaker 3 (18:34):
Anything?

Speaker 1 (18:36):
You know? We'll get back to you on that, Leonora.

Speaker 2 (18:39):
What if you talk to Fertilom and say, hey, can
we have a giveaway a coupon?

Speaker 3 (18:44):
There we go, we can do that.

Speaker 1 (18:46):
Yeah, let's get them more involved. Yeah, they're keeping us
on the air, folks, Love your fertilan. That's our mantra
for this year, Love my fertilon. Okay, we're going to
take a break. Oh all right, And then that people
are still wondering. Okay, guys, you two segments. What's your
show going to be about today? What's the theme? What's
the title?

Speaker 2 (19:02):
First of all, we have a lot of things that
our listeners have posted that I want to get in.

Speaker 1 (19:06):
Okay, won't come back, and we're going to do that
after this break. We're going to take a break for
our good friends at BIZ Talk Radio, are good friends
at Fertilom. Stay with us. This is Garden America. Brian Main,
John bag Nasco, Tiger Palafox on your weekend or whenever
you're listening to us here on Guarden America. Alrighty, it
was a great break for us. Hope you had a
good break. BIS Talk Radio, Facebook Live, a lot of

(19:26):
questions comments said John wants to get to today's theme
is what's on your mind. We're going to let the listeners,
you know, drive the boat, pull the train out of
the station and choot you here we go again, John.

Speaker 2 (19:36):
Yeah, shout out to our friend Kim and Tucson by
the way, the Garden Club. Right, yeah, she hasn't uh.
Carla mentions that she hasn't seen Kim for a while,
so glad to have her back with us.

Speaker 1 (19:50):
Veronica just said, yes, coupon's coupons. We're onto something here.

Speaker 3 (19:53):
You have a fertilom show and then we'll have some
okaw ponds and.

Speaker 1 (19:58):
We will do that. Do that.

Speaker 2 (20:00):
Yeah, tiger has set that up.

Speaker 1 (20:01):
How easy that was, asking you shall receive?

Speaker 2 (20:04):
Yeah. Veronica in Spring Valley says that she bought a
new blueberry and another thornless BlackBerry, and two figs. And
and I just planted a fig last week. I trying
to think of the name. Oh, I guess I should
know the name. It's a tiger fig.

Speaker 3 (20:25):
Oh did you?

Speaker 2 (20:26):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (20:26):
Nice?

Speaker 2 (20:27):
You know why they call it a tiger fig because
it has stripes?

Speaker 3 (20:30):
Yes, you know, you know it's funny, she said. The
thornless BlackBerry, those blackberries, raspberries, Why would you buy anything
but but thornless?

Speaker 2 (20:44):
You know they well, there is a way a reason
you do that.

Speaker 3 (20:48):
I'm asking why would you buy anything but thornless? Because
they wentn't very difficult.

Speaker 2 (20:53):
But the reason most or some people would thornless is
relatively new by the way that they've spread them without thorns.
But they're not as productive as the blue blueberries, I mean,
the blackberries or the raspberries with thorns.

Speaker 3 (21:10):
Really Yeah, so you get you get less production, but
better don't die.

Speaker 1 (21:19):
Right right, better flavor, you don't die. No thorns.

Speaker 3 (21:24):
That so they really do get because I mean I
feel the berries. They get pretty good production, but they're
substantially more for the thorn almighties almost double almost double.

Speaker 2 (21:36):
Wow.

Speaker 3 (21:37):
So if you need blueberries and raspberries, you're you're a
thorn plant because you have blueberries, blueberry sorry, blackberries what
is it? Blackberries? Raspberries and youngberries young yeah, young berries.
Another boys, boys and berries. That's the other way. That's

(21:57):
what I was trying to think of. Boysberries. All of
those are thorned, but they have thornless varieties.

Speaker 2 (22:04):
You know where the boys and berry came from?

Speaker 3 (22:06):
Notts Very Farm.

Speaker 1 (22:07):
Yeah, very good Tiger. That was you know, Knots Very Farm.
It's like six flags right now.

Speaker 3 (22:15):
It's closing what Knots Very Farm. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (22:18):
Well, what I was gonna say is back in the day,
even before my day, but when I was a kid,
it was just a place to go up and maybe
pan for a little bit of gold and sell some jelly.
It was like an old I love it. It was
like an old western town kind of that old flavor.
And then it became what it is today and now
it's closing down the Knots family, right, John, Yeah? Yeah.

Speaker 2 (22:40):
Carlo says that her daughter received pretty little potted Italian
stone pine is a Christmas gift cue and she heard
it grows around forty feet. I think it's actually sixty
to eighty feet yep. But Carla doesn't want to throw
it out, so she wants to know she can put
it in a pot till starts to get too big,

(23:01):
and then donate it somewhere if it's still alive. What
do you think?

Speaker 3 (23:06):
I think that you can definitely put it in a
pot until it gets too big.

Speaker 2 (23:10):
First donating it isn't that like donating Ay.

Speaker 3 (23:15):
I know where you're going with exactly. But let me
let me ask you a tiger to someone.

Speaker 1 (23:21):
If you put it.

Speaker 2 (23:21):
In a pot until it gets too big, I was said,
like donating a Washington fan Paul, Yeah, exactly if.

Speaker 1 (23:29):
Okay, so now it's too big for the pot. So
if you kept it. But if you kept it in
that pot, would it just with stunt its growth or
would it then begin to look bad?

Speaker 2 (23:38):
Did you ever hear a bone sigh?

Speaker 1 (23:40):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (23:41):
I mean you can keep keep kind offers and pots
for a long.

Speaker 1 (23:44):
Time, right, so I don't what you do. What would
her desire be to get? Well?

Speaker 2 (23:50):
But well if it if it gets too big for
the pot, and you don't want to keep getting bigger
and bigger part in the same pot, right, well, you
know eventually there's no no soil left and they just die. Yeah.
But the way you trim a pine tree is they
will put out new growth in the spring, right, and
that new growth is called a candle.

Speaker 3 (24:13):
It comes up, it looks like the tips of the It.

Speaker 2 (24:16):
Looks like a candle, and then the needles all come
out from there when it puts out those candles, if
you cut it in half, each candle that comes out
cut in half. And that's how you keep a pine
compact conrow. Most kind of first, very cool, Yeah, yeah, okay,
you know, but she brings up a very valid question

(24:38):
and concern.

Speaker 3 (24:39):
And that's sometimes where this whole donation of plants kind
of comes into play. Now you would think like, oh,
I should be able to donate a pine tree and
they should plant it somewhere. Well, number one, if they're
planting it somewhere a size sizable plant, it needs care.
When you transplant it. And when they re forest and area,

(25:03):
they don't plant five gallon trees or fifteen gallantries because
those would require maintenance and care. They do little seed leaks,
you know, and they do it during a time of
year when there's going to be rain and cool weather.
The self sufficient exactly. So it's very difficult. And then
you would say, oh, well, what a some kind of
preserve or botanical garden, and usually they won't take, like

(25:25):
you know, like what John said, that's like taking most
of the time, that's like taking like a Washington palm
or Benjamina and they're like, that's not what we want
to take to take over. Yeah, I mean, you know,
at the end of the day, it's just tough because
I mean the answer is to throw it away, you know,
mulch it, chip it, you know, do you know you know,
if you're really looking to recycle it, then that's the

(25:48):
correct way to do it is just put it in
your green bin.

Speaker 2 (25:51):
Call I wanted to know what other fix I bought,
and uh, one, I've never tasted and I don't know
anything about it. But I've always anything that's big, I've
always been attracted to, Like there's.

Speaker 3 (26:04):
A bout of roses.

Speaker 2 (26:06):
A book called Giant Vegetables, and you know they'll talk
about cantilope that weighs thirty five pounds, or corn that
grows twenty feet tall, sunflowers that grow like twenty feet tall.

Speaker 3 (26:21):
With giant, massive heads that will fall off crush.

Speaker 1 (26:25):
Kids run into one of those at night. You can't see.
It's scary.

Speaker 2 (26:30):
But anyway, there's a nairy fig anyri, which is supposed
to be one of the largest fruits of a fig,
and it's supposed to be really good. So I planted
that like.

Speaker 3 (26:43):
A breadfruit and just puts out like one right next
to the trunk because that's all the branch that can
sustain it.

Speaker 2 (26:50):
I had a you're talking about right next to the trunk. Yeah,
I had it my old house, a jabot a cop.

Speaker 1 (27:00):
Yeah, I remember that, and it took.

Speaker 2 (27:04):
The thing about planting a jebaticaba is if their seed grown,
which most of them are thirty years now, not thirty years,
but it takes about fifteen to twenty years. So anyway,
after about fifteen years, mine started to flower. And I
always liked the pictures of them flowering because they flower
right on the trunk and the branches and because of that,

(27:27):
the fruit is right on the trunk. And again, the
pictures just really intrigued me. So I waited fifteen years
to find out that nobody liked the fruit. I think
I talked myself into liking it just because I've waited
a long time for this.

Speaker 3 (27:45):
You're like, this is delicious.

Speaker 2 (27:48):
Oh, anyway, I didn't plant one at my new house.

Speaker 3 (27:53):
So Veronica was saying, you know, because we were talking
about the thornless berries being less productive then, and she
said she had great production. And that's the thing is,
that's like saying a thornless lemon has better or less
production than a thorned lemon. Yeah, you still get great production,

(28:15):
you know you for most people, it's it's not like
it only produces three or four berries, right, Like you
still get enough.

Speaker 1 (28:22):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (28:23):
I didn't say that you get poor production witherries. It
just said less production. And you know, so Tiger's saying
less is more, Well.

Speaker 3 (28:33):
Less is more when you don't have to wear a
leather suit to work with the plant. You know, Boga
Villa's and thorned berries, because there's really no way to
keep a thorned berry nice, you know what I mean, Like,
like you try to train it, you try to like
put it on a fence, but at some day you

(28:54):
have to work with it and trim it and cut
it and clean it. And it's not fun, you know.
I you know, I just feel for the people that
have to do that on a regular basis, because, you know,
for the end result, people always are like, oh, bogan
v's are beautiful, bogas are beautiful. Hair cut one back
and then let's see if you want a plant.

Speaker 1 (29:15):
And then have some fun and transplanet and see how
well it does. You know, we had one in our
backyard when I was a kid. I had no idea
what it was. I just knew it was a nice
little plant that had red flowers on it, a lot
of color, a lot of color. But they were all
over the place, all over the lawn.

Speaker 3 (29:30):
Oh no, Kim Tucson, right, Kim. My entire yard and
all my gardens were destroyed in the last monsoon, along
with my gazebo, roof of my kitchen. I'd been busy rebuilding. Damn.
Oh my gosh, thank goodness, Kim, good luck. There's a

(29:52):
lot going.

Speaker 1 (29:52):
On over Nearly silence fell over the studio after that.

Speaker 3 (29:56):
Yeah, well, yeah, there's there's more. There was more to that.

Speaker 1 (30:00):
Our heart goes out to you.

Speaker 3 (30:01):
Yeah, it is good therapy. Though.

Speaker 1 (30:07):
We got to take a break. Running a little bit
late here, but we are going to take a break.
Come right back for BIS Talk Radio. This is Garden America. Okay,
we have returned, obviously, and for those on BIS Talk Radio,
this is the final segment of hour one. We give
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Facebook life just keeps on rolling right along. It's been

(30:30):
sort of a free for all this morning in terms
of discussion topics going back and forth. This is thorny,
that's not thorny, that won't row, that'll get too big,
and I transplant it? Can I give it away?

Speaker 2 (30:41):
It's too many questions, a.

Speaker 1 (30:42):
Lot of things going on. What did you come up
with during the break?

Speaker 2 (30:46):
Well, I was just going to mention, since we're talking
about thorns, I plan it on my hillside, a Bardue
job or Bardeu job, however you want to pronounce it rose,
and it's thornless. I didn't plant it because it's thornless.
It's just just one that is thornless.

Speaker 3 (31:06):
It's an old rose's thornless.

Speaker 1 (31:08):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (31:08):
It was the rose that is the center point of
our center topic of the book, the Alcatraz rose.

Speaker 1 (31:19):
Oh that they found on the Alcatraz island.

Speaker 2 (31:22):
Yeah, that our buddy Greg Lowry found or discovered supposedly
on the island of Alcatraz. You know, the island of
Alcatraz used to have a rose garden.

Speaker 1 (31:34):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (31:35):
Yeah, and the inmates took care of it, right, inmates
took care of it.

Speaker 1 (31:39):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (31:40):
Well, and not just the inmates.

Speaker 1 (31:42):
The Alcopone used to play people that lived.

Speaker 3 (31:44):
There, you know, they had families that lived there, the
guards and all of that. So they have whole gardens,
beautiful gardens on that on it.

Speaker 1 (31:52):
I guess it was too expensive to maintain, right. They
closed it in nineteen sixty three.

Speaker 2 (31:57):
Then the Indians took it over, right Native American and
it used to it used to be an army base.

Speaker 1 (32:03):
I think before that was real kind of military I think,
prior to it becoming a prison, I think.

Speaker 3 (32:11):
Yeah, it's changed hands the number of times.

Speaker 2 (32:14):
That was the Rock before Dwayne Johnson, Yes, it was, and.

Speaker 3 (32:18):
Before the Nicholas Nicholas cage Rock. Yes, indeed, Kevin Lawrence,
some plants just grow bad fruit. I have. I tried
a couple of pluot trees and strawberry guavas and the
fruit was horrible. But my friend from Vista gave me

(32:38):
some strawberry guavas from his tree and they were delicious.
Like the Bible says, if the tree bears bad fruit,
they can cut it down, right, that's true. Now, I mean,
I definitely feel there's a lot of there could be
a range of varieties of strawberries, and.

Speaker 1 (32:56):
Why don't you give it a season or two?

Speaker 3 (32:58):
Well, you know, you said it earlier in the sense
of it could be having to deal with the time
it was harvest, different growing situations and stuff like that.
I imagine there's a variety of quite a few varieties of
strawberry gabba, you know. I mean, when you you know
nowadays you pretty much it's just strawberry wabba and that's
what you get.

Speaker 2 (33:20):
But I never thought strawberry quabas were that good.

Speaker 3 (33:25):
Well, I mean, that's just it. I mean, they're very
specific strawberry flavor.

Speaker 2 (33:30):
Strawberry trees. I didn't never thought the fruit was that greated.

Speaker 3 (33:34):
Yeah, they are beautis Yeah, yeah, those are only for
the birds.

Speaker 1 (33:39):
But uh, you.

Speaker 3 (33:41):
Know, growing it, growing, growing conditions also change the flavor,
and that's you know, I mean, let's be really the
biggest one of the biggest crops based on growing conditions
is grapes and wine and very specific flavors come from
very specific regions. And that's the same for all plants,
you know, I mean you you know, growing a tomato

(34:03):
somewhere is going to make that same variety of tomato
taste different growing it in its ideal climate environment too.

Speaker 2 (34:09):
So I don't know, Brian, do you remember when we
were in France and we went to the one winery
that had it looked like it was planted in rocks. Yes,
it was the grape or what do you mean, Yeah,
the great the actual grapes in the vineyard. The it
was the veal. Our listeners probably know the veel something

(34:34):
to pop fel Chateau de Pop. I don't know, it's
like the Pope's vineyard or something. But anyway, when we
years ago we were selling the miniature grapes, remember those.

Speaker 3 (34:47):
I remember John from John and Bob's had like a
little in his front easement.

Speaker 1 (34:54):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (34:55):
Yeah, uh but anyway, I still have one of those,
and I when I was over there, I thought, you know,
I'm going to take a couple of these rocks home.
So and they were kind of they look like Mexican
beach pebbles, except their tan or brown. So I've got
my little miniature pixie grape in a pot with those

(35:18):
two stones that I brought from that vineyard there. So
it's always good memories just looking at that.

Speaker 3 (35:24):
Look at you you know, you know, it's funny that
you mentioned that because in Spain when we would visit
a vineyard, you know, I mean when you go to
a vineyard in California. Yeah, well just you know from
the California, you know, Temecula, Napa. Sure, they just had
these wide open hills that just have grapes growing all

(35:45):
over them.

Speaker 2 (35:46):
Right.

Speaker 3 (35:46):
But in Spain, like you say, it was like a
rocky a rocky mountain like not an easy to harvest,
not an easy place to grow. But I think that
the soil conditions were really good for or they were
growing there. And that's but it blew me away because
you know, we we would remove those rocks.

Speaker 1 (36:06):
Yeah, it's all about convenience.

Speaker 3 (36:09):
Yeah, yeah, we would make it as flat as possible
and remove those rocks.

Speaker 2 (36:13):
Well, the vineyard I'm talking about, there's no way you'd
get a roaded till our three.

Speaker 1 (36:16):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (36:17):
Yeah, it's amazing.

Speaker 2 (36:19):
I was.

Speaker 3 (36:20):
I was wondering the same thing, like how did they
plant those there?

Speaker 2 (36:23):
I don't know. I guess once you've got them in. Yeah,
it's like they used to say about avocado. So if
you can dig the hole, you can plant the avocado.
It'll grow, all right?

Speaker 1 (36:34):
Are we caught up?

Speaker 2 (36:35):
Oh? I like?

Speaker 1 (36:36):
I like.

Speaker 3 (36:36):
I like Lisa's comment here she says, I have a
lemon that fits the bill, like ready to take out.
She wants to remove it in twelve years it hasn't
grown over six feet and never a lemon A waste
of real estate. Now, now, if you.

Speaker 1 (36:52):
Have something, if it had grown six feet with good lemons,
that would have been great. Yeah, if you could pick
them easy.

Speaker 3 (36:58):
You know. And that's a big question for people, is
how much time before you just call it? I think
twelve years, You think twelve years. I think like two years,
especially on a lemon.

Speaker 1 (37:09):
Well no, I'm saying, yeah, okay.

Speaker 2 (37:11):
If anybody wants to come to my house, you keep
free lemons, you can pick all you on.

Speaker 1 (37:15):
I think it depends on your patients. But I would
agree that after twelve years probably a good idea. Take
it out not doing anything right.

Speaker 3 (37:23):
A lemon should be producing in one to two years,
even a small one like a five gallon one.

Speaker 2 (37:29):
That's how you tell if a doctor successful. By the way,
depends on his patients.

Speaker 1 (37:34):
Yeah, I think you're absolutely correct. And you know what
else you're correct on. You're looking at me thinking is
it time for a break, And you're right, Johann, it
is time for a break. We have news coming up
for Bistalk Radio.

Speaker 3 (37:45):
And the answer to Veronica's question, we come back.

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(38:08):
we had to be quiet. It was during the break
and I know people were watching us that we can't
hear them.

Speaker 3 (38:13):
But but no, it's frust not frustrating, but it's like
awkward sometimes when I'm trying to read and do things
and then I look up and it's like you guys
had a moment because you guys, you guys looked at
each other and then you looked at me and then
you just smirked, like what did I do? I do?
I don't know what were you looking at me with?

Speaker 2 (38:35):
Mere thinking the exact same thing? He's so cute.

Speaker 3 (38:40):
No, that's definitely not.

Speaker 1 (38:41):
Basically a quick glance at John like you're ready, and
then John kind of gave me the nod like all right,
and then it was looking at you like are you ready? Well,
you know you were deep in thought.

Speaker 3 (38:50):
I wouldn't deep in thought. Yeah, And so I thought
you guys were making fun of you about Oh.

Speaker 1 (38:54):
No, no, no, we'd make funny right to your face. Yeah, exactly,
we wouldn't be quiet about it.

Speaker 3 (38:58):
That's what I thought. It was so weird.

Speaker 2 (39:00):
We went into it during the break.

Speaker 1 (39:02):
We do it on the air line, right, everybody else
get here?

Speaker 2 (39:05):
What were you doing? By the way, Tiger, I.

Speaker 3 (39:06):
Was trying to I was reading the questions, and I
asked you if you know where Veronica was in Spring Valley,
because her question is specific, when should I When should
I plan for the last frost? Seed catalogs with sales
are dangerous. Now I have lots of seeds to start,
and if she's in Spring Valley, pretty much the end
of this month is like the last frost right right,

(39:29):
end of February.

Speaker 2 (39:30):
Yeah, end of February. You're safe, should be safe for sure. Yeah,
but the ground still has to warm up to plant
certain things. Right if you're planning like squash or warm
season crops or corn, you you don't even know that
there's not going to be a frost. You don't want
to plant mid March to be safe. No, I wouldn't

(39:52):
plant those until what would you say, tiger in mid April?

Speaker 3 (39:55):
April?

Speaker 1 (39:55):
Okay another month after that, ok?

Speaker 3 (39:57):
Yeah, yeah, because like John says that, I think the
the biggest risk that people run when they do that early,
especially well, is they there seed rots in the soil,
like it just stays wet and then and then they
get frustrated because it never comes up.

Speaker 2 (40:12):
Seed does Germany because we'll have warm days and then
the soil's too cold for the roots and weight on
top of it and they just stropped.

Speaker 3 (40:20):
Yeah, exactly, so so yeah, I mean the early stuff
that we're talking about the end of this month, you're
good to go from their March and then you know
the later stuff. Mid April's perfect time.

Speaker 2 (40:34):
You have tomato Mania coming up next month, right.

Speaker 3 (40:36):
March, Yeah, March. I don't know the date. I'm sorry,
but it's coming up next month. Tomatomania.

Speaker 1 (40:43):
That's a fun Do you take part? Are you actually there?

Speaker 2 (40:46):
Not?

Speaker 1 (40:47):
Usually, I know, because you're less less and less time
at the nursery and more and more time out on
the road.

Speaker 3 (40:51):
Yeah, but I mean lots of fun variety of tomato,
and that's always nice to be able to buy the plants,
you know, it's hard to sometimes get some of the seeds.

Speaker 1 (40:59):
But I don't think I've had sun sugar tomato John
in years.

Speaker 3 (41:02):
Really thought, what was the one you got last time?
Didn't you get something?

Speaker 1 (41:06):
You know, it was something else that was sweet that
was comparable, comparable, comparable to the sweetness of sun sugar.

Speaker 2 (41:12):
Really, wasn't it. Didn't you have a tomato of the
year that was really sweet that you gave him?

Speaker 1 (41:20):
Yes? And what was the name of that? And it
was really good?

Speaker 2 (41:23):
I don't know it was a couple of years ago.

Speaker 3 (41:25):
Couple of years ago, because I feel like the Bronze
it was like the Senate.

Speaker 1 (41:29):
I would recognize the name.

Speaker 3 (41:30):
It was like the atomic Atomic something or another atomic war.

Speaker 2 (41:34):
And something like that. Yeah. Uh, ed live by the way,
Tiger said that he agrees with you, no more than
two years of poor production or growth and he rips
it out rid of it. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (41:45):
Yeah, because I mean, if you're not getting something in
a couple of years from a fruit.

Speaker 1 (41:51):
Tree, it's I mean with syinar.

Speaker 3 (41:55):
Yeah, that's why you got it was production. I mean
I can understand, like avocade, some things just require time.

Speaker 1 (42:03):
But you would know that going into it correct.

Speaker 3 (42:06):
You know, but a standard citrus or an apple or
what you know, those they should be growing quickly for
you and having some kind of production.

Speaker 2 (42:16):
Yeah. Carl has a rose question, and she said she
read that iceberg roses can tolerate some shade. Is that true?
It depends if you're in Temecula, they'll take some shade,
no problem. But they can milde and on the coast.

(42:39):
I mean they're not mildew magnets. It's not something you
normally have to worry about. But the more shade that
you give it on the coast, where you already have
cool weather and less sun, it may be more of
a problem than it would inland. But it is one
of the roses that does tolerate some shade.

Speaker 3 (43:00):
Oh for sure. And Brian and I were talking about
this problem before the show, that this is the time
of year that's so difficult for people in southern California
because you could be driving around town, oh iceberg roses.
You could be driving around to any in and out
in southern California and they're gonna have beautiful iceberg roses

(43:21):
where they're you know, their stores are they always plant
iceberg in their stores. But like that doesn't mean yours
should look that pretty because maybe it's shadier, or you're
in a cooler area or you know, I mean they
also have a gardener that's taking specific care of them.
And you know it's you. You judge your performance based

(43:43):
on other places or what you see, and you you
have to be careful doing that because you.

Speaker 1 (43:49):
Have to think about yeah, yeah, you know, And that's
how people sound when they ask that question.

Speaker 2 (43:57):
The same problem. That's why they have different roads society.
You know, there's the del Marro Society, California Coastal Roads Society,
there's a Temecula Rose Society. Plants that do really well
or roses that do really well on the coast may
not be the best for inland. But usually it's roses

(44:18):
that are good inland may not do well on the coast.
Almost anything does well inland, almost if you're on the coast.
A good way to decide whether a rose you know
nothing about is going to do well there is you
might look at where the rose came from. So if

(44:40):
a rose was bred in England, for instance.

Speaker 1 (44:43):
Oh, I can take all kinds of cool weather.

Speaker 2 (44:45):
Usually yeah, usually usually cooler weather. Not always true though,
like David Austin roses come from England. But some of
the early David Austin roses will do a lot right,
the later ones not so much.

Speaker 1 (45:00):
I had Green Planet inland in San Tea, and then
in two thousand and eight moved it out to where
I am Now. I'm trying to think if I had
any other roses that might be the oldest rose I have.

Speaker 2 (45:10):
Wow, I realized you had it back in Santia.

Speaker 1 (45:13):
Well, yeah, because I got it at the auction in
two thousand and four.

Speaker 2 (45:17):
Wow, this year's the twenty fifth anniversary of the auction
twenty five?

Speaker 1 (45:22):
Really? Yeah, really, I were there from almost the beginning.

Speaker 2 (45:27):
I gave you the date right to mark down.

Speaker 1 (45:30):
Yeah, you said make sure you're there. Yeah, I just
figured you'd tell me again.

Speaker 2 (45:34):
It's like October twenty fifth or something like that.

Speaker 1 (45:37):
No, sure, wait this year October, this year twenty ooh,
I don't know about that.

Speaker 3 (45:43):
You're doing the twenty fifth on the twenty fifth.

Speaker 1 (45:45):
Hey, So let me ask you a question from a
quasi geographical point of view.

Speaker 3 (45:51):
Okay, would you say.

Speaker 1 (45:52):
That where I live or the fifteen right there? Yes?
Would you consider that the coast? No? Thank you? And
here's what Here's what's really interesting is that, you know,
Alexa gives you all these things, yeah, packages here, weather report,
it's gonna rain, whatever, constantly gives us a high surf

(46:13):
advisory in effect for the Scripts Ranch area. Oh yeah,
oh yeah, we just got one this morning, high surf
advisory for the Scripts Ranch area. And there's no way
to explain to her, you know, cause Alexi Alexa on
the phone talking to her friends during her nails with
curlers and her hair, playing news for people now and
then that's how I picture her. But I'm thinking what

(46:34):
I'm thinking, Why what are you talking about? We're not
the coast. It's my little irritation, I get it.

Speaker 2 (46:42):
Car Lessa is the area that she has on the
for the iceberg rows is four hours of sun. I
would say I would recommend against it. Yeah, that seems
four hours the sun would be great.

Speaker 1 (46:55):
You know what that sounds like my patio.

Speaker 3 (46:57):
I I could only imagine liked be good for about
one year, and then she's gonna be battling mildew, no
foliage and spotty bloss.

Speaker 2 (47:05):
I would say two hydranges instead, Oh there was a
good one.

Speaker 1 (47:08):
Yeah they do.

Speaker 2 (47:09):
Yeah, yeah, there's a lot of nights. There's so many
new hydranges that the new doubles. Tiger planeted a bunch
of hydrangers at my house and you probably had what
six eight different types?

Speaker 1 (47:22):
Yeah, yeah, I bet your wife loves that.

Speaker 2 (47:25):
I loves it, Yeah, she does.

Speaker 3 (47:27):
And they look beautiful right around April May.

Speaker 2 (47:30):
Do you remember the Griffin begonias that I had planets.

Speaker 1 (47:34):
I was just telling Tiger that mine right now looks
terrible because it's opposed to right it looks it's all
spinlely dead looking, but that's what it does this time of.

Speaker 2 (47:44):
Year, right, and so that's what mine looked like. That
were by the patio door. So Shannon pointed out to me, Yeah,
now's a good time to dig those out. So I
dug them out, planted them up on the hill, and
put three hydranges where those were.

Speaker 1 (48:00):
So we're going to take a break right now. Speaking
of that, I had the same conversation with Tiger this.

Speaker 3 (48:04):
Comment on Lenore's question or comment.

Speaker 1 (48:06):
Okay, so we have to take a break. Commercial sponsors
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That means we're back after the break. I hope you
had a good break. We did Facebook Live, BIS Talk
Radio a lot to catch up on. Basically, we've been
revolving around the questions and comments that people on Facebook

(48:27):
Live this morning. Tiger.

Speaker 3 (48:29):
Yeah, and you know, our next topic is based on
Lenore's comment and she wrote, one of my cherry trees
has a couple of bloomings and two plumria's got a
new leaf. And I'm just so glad that we live
in southern California, where you know, those issues of maybe
flowering plants out of season a little bit, or you know,

(48:53):
plants emerging a little earlier is usually not as detrimental
as some of the other areas that when you know
their plants start early.

Speaker 2 (49:03):
Can they get a light frost?

Speaker 3 (49:05):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly, they lose the crop, They lose
everything that goes.

Speaker 1 (49:10):
You know, how cold does it get in Canyon Country?

Speaker 2 (49:14):
Oh she gets freezes, yes she does.

Speaker 1 (49:16):
She does well. Cherries obviously should do well.

Speaker 3 (49:19):
If she has a cherry, it's cold there right like
eat you can only grow cherry.

Speaker 1 (49:23):
No, didn't you say that there's some cherries that don't
require Yeah, there's slow chill cherries.

Speaker 3 (49:27):
Okay, yeah, yeah, but but I mean, you know, and
that's a battle that we have during this time of
year of emerging of the transition.

Speaker 1 (49:35):
And see Paul that bloomed two weeks ago, Yeah, out
of nowhere.

Speaker 3 (49:39):
You know. But the nice thing about the Pope John
Paul is that the plant's not going to die or
you're not going to get any fruit off of it
if if you get a late season frost. Where you know,
where you know the problem lies is where some of
these fruit trees are grown, and like John said, they
get a late season frost, or they get a storm
and then when it's blooming, and then you get like

(50:00):
zero production and you spent you know, we're talking about
two years, two years investment in a tree and if
it doesn't produce, well, what if those two years you
got late season storms or late season freezes or you know,
or or it emerged early and then didn't produce. But
that also is why all of these plants have certain criteria,

(50:24):
because you know, you need to plant plants that don't
emerge until later or you know, wait, you know, the
marginal plants are where you struggle, and you know it's
it's always tough. You know, when you have you know,
these plants that emerged early for you.

Speaker 1 (50:42):
Right where you grow.

Speaker 2 (50:43):
That was one of the reasons I moved to California.
I had I planted a tree with sterea, which you
don't don't normally see in Michigan, and eight years be
without blooming. Finally, the a year it was covered in
buds that got to be about an inch long, and

(51:05):
then a freeze came and killed every single one.

Speaker 1 (51:09):
Said, after eight years.

Speaker 2 (51:10):
That's it, I'm leaving. Let's see Lila and Powi. Brian
wants to know. She was looking back in her notes.
She's got a file on you, and she wants to
know if it was the terra Cotta tomato that was one.
It was somebody's name, terra Cotta. Do you remember that
was the tomato of the year about It was from

(51:32):
what eighteen ninety or something like that, really old tomato sweet. Yeah,
but I don't know if you had mentioned that I
had grown one and said it was my wife's favorite tomato. Yeah,
said it was the best one she ever.

Speaker 3 (51:47):
That was the one that was planted right outside the trailer.

Speaker 2 (51:49):
Yeah remember that.

Speaker 1 (51:50):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (51:50):
I think it was called thorn Thornburns, Thornburns Terra Cotta, Yeah, exactly. Yeah,
that was that was phenomenal.

Speaker 3 (51:58):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (52:03):
Kevin says that your alexis probably thinking scripts peer scripts Ranch.

Speaker 1 (52:12):
That's pretty good. Yeah, Scripts Ranch, Alexa.

Speaker 2 (52:16):
Tiger Kim in Tuson wants to know if you have
a tomato event at your nursery. That's the tomato mania
we were talking about.

Speaker 1 (52:24):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (52:24):
She said that her sister Melody lives in La Joia
and mentioned it.

Speaker 3 (52:31):
Yeah, I mean, let me, I'll find out right now.
Let's he hear it. Tomato.

Speaker 2 (52:35):
Now do you always have is it different than the
garden walk or do you have the two at the
same time.

Speaker 3 (52:41):
No, garden walk is always Mother's Day weekend. Oh, and
Tomatomania is in March. Let's see here March eighth through
the ninth, Saturday and Sunday, March eighth to ninth. For
Tomato Media, it was funny.

Speaker 2 (53:03):
We had a post here from Veronica that didn't we
We didn't understand because it said Alexander is a dumb
blonde and didn't know what what she was talking about,
and she just posted darn auto correct Alexia, so it
still came out. Yeah, that's funny.

Speaker 3 (53:25):
It's it's frustrating when it auto corrects you when you
spelt it right and then it and then you got
to go back and respell it because it's not all
you know.

Speaker 1 (53:33):
The So if somebody is using their voice, just send
a text message, unless say they want to send it
they're using my name, it'll always come up be our
I ans because you're weird. And yeah, of course you
spell it, so I said, and they know me. It's
oh sorry, it's an autocorrect or I was doing the
voice text. I know you spell it with a y.

Speaker 3 (53:54):
Does that all come out? Does that all come out
in the in the text?

Speaker 1 (53:58):
Sometimes so time Brian blah blah blah.

Speaker 3 (54:02):
Oh, by the way, I'm using Yeah, I'm using the
voice and it's spelled your name, Brian with uh.

Speaker 1 (54:09):
Sometimes I think it's it's convenient, but more of a
problem trying to use the voice text because then you
have to go back anyway. Look at it, is there
a parrd there? They didn't put a comma there. That's
not what I said. I said yard, not in yard
or whatever.

Speaker 2 (54:23):
Kevin says that one of his rose bushes didn't get
prune back this past fall, and now it has rose hips,
and he wants to know what to do when it
has rose hips. Well, first of all, Kevin lives in Cordelaine, Idaho,
which is a little bit colder than San Diego.

Speaker 3 (54:46):
Weave it.

Speaker 2 (54:47):
But Kevin, you don't have anything to worry about because
in cold climates usually don't prune until spring because most
of the pruning is not the shape like we do
here in southern California. You're pruning, it's to cut out
all the dead wood. So usually you would not prune
your roses in the fall, you would let them set

(55:08):
hips go dormant and then prune them in the spring,
right yeah, unless on until, unless it's a once blooming rose,
which you prune after it's done flowering.

Speaker 3 (55:23):
Which you're already too late anyways, right right, So don't worry.

Speaker 2 (55:27):
In that case, you would let it come up and
bloom now in the spring, and now in the spring
is May, and quarterly the end of May, and then
after it bloomed you would cut it. But it's probably
never blooming rose, I would guess, Kevin. So yeah, just
wait till till the snow melts and then prune it.

Speaker 3 (55:49):
And also do you even need to prune it? Like
is there a need? Like requirements wild roses.

Speaker 1 (55:58):
We've talked about this that you know nobody cares.

Speaker 3 (56:01):
For you didn't if you just didn't prune.

Speaker 1 (56:03):
It, cemetery roses, what would be the problem.

Speaker 2 (56:07):
Well, if you go to any landscape in the world,
they don't have pruners out there.

Speaker 3 (56:12):
Yeah, yeah, I mean.

Speaker 2 (56:15):
It depends. There's reasons to prune and reasons not to prun.
If you don't, should just be a right to prune
or not to prune, right, But the less you pruna rose,
the more flowers you get.

Speaker 1 (56:26):
And we're going to take a break on that note.

Speaker 2 (56:28):
Okay, there's more to it.

Speaker 1 (56:29):
There is more pruning roses to prune or not to prune.
Stay with us break for BIS Talk Radio. This is
Facebook live as well, Brian me and John Begnascar Tacket
Pela Fox back after these messages on biz Talk Radio. Alrighty,
we have returned from the break. And just prior to
the break here on Guard in America, John was discussing
pruning roses, whether to prune not to prune Kevin with

(56:51):
his rose hips in Quarterly, Idaho. So let's pick it
up from there.

Speaker 2 (56:55):
All right, Well, why do people prune rose shop him? Well,
it depends if you grow hybrid tea roses. Those are
usually grown for cutting, right, yep, normal people would grow
them for that. Collectors are not normal people. You just
want to have it, right, They just want to have it.

(57:15):
But you want long stems that you can put in
a vase. So what you do is you cut those
down every year. You want to encourage new basil breaks,
which is a new stem that comes up from the base.
But those will come out with long stems and a
bloom on the top. So if you don't prune those,

(57:36):
you end up with really weak stems and a bunch
of flowers on the top, which is fine for color,
but you know, not so good for the plant.

Speaker 1 (57:46):
I learned about basil breaks this morning, tiger. Did you
a basil break?

Speaker 3 (57:50):
What about time or regular breaks?

Speaker 1 (57:53):
I have to think about that one. I like basil breaks.
It makes you sound really smart.

Speaker 3 (57:59):
What would be another? And why you have to prune? Like,
what if there is a lot of dead growth on
the plant?

Speaker 1 (58:04):
Is that?

Speaker 2 (58:05):
Yeah? No? No, yeah, you want to prone out dead growth.
You want to keep the plant rejuvenated. So when you
get old woody stems, cut those out. Even on climbing roses,
you know, I always want to keep fresh growth, So
once the stem is three or four years old, you
may want to just cut it out at the base.

Speaker 3 (58:24):
I'm always amazed by roses because you can have completely rotted,
dead parts of the plant, but then you can have
very much a live, vigorous parts of the plant too,
you know what I mean, All on the same rows.
You can have these parts that are almost like decaying

(58:46):
off of it, and then you get yeah, and it's
amazing that they still will produce on that. That a
live part kind of a thing. Yeah, So Kevin, don't worry,
You're you're good. Yeah, prune probably for him. What do
you say, prune and April? Is that we determined for him.

Speaker 2 (59:10):
End of April. End of April, maybe maybe mid April.
It depends.

Speaker 3 (59:15):
And that's a nice thing about living in an area
where it's cold is there's also a little bit of
self pruning that happened.

Speaker 2 (59:20):
I usually just say after the snow melts. Yeah, prune
after the last snowfall.

Speaker 3 (59:27):
Yeah, And you do run the race, especially with some
plants if you prune too early, because sometimes it's nice
to leave that old, hearty growth on a plant through
the winter, through the cold, through all that, because if
you prune it early, then that's more exposed to those elements.

Speaker 2 (59:46):
So Kevin has a little complaint Brian. Brian, He says
that the show's gone way too fast today. Can you
slow it down?

Speaker 1 (59:56):
Yeah, we can do that. Here.

Speaker 3 (59:56):
Let me dial it down right over here.

Speaker 2 (01:00:00):
Added a little quote there. I didn't think growing old
would come so soon.

Speaker 1 (01:00:06):
We do, don't we all added an extra five minutes
to don't. I didn't know growing old would come so soon.

Speaker 2 (01:00:16):
Is it getting to be too late to plant winter
vegetables in southern California?

Speaker 3 (01:00:22):
I would say in the inland area is yes, because
I have a feeling this year we're not going to
have that. This is just my own feeling, there's really
nothing behind it, but I have a feeling that come

(01:00:42):
May we're going to start having like those hot days inland.
I think along the coast though, you still have time,
you know, in some of the cool areas, or if
you have a cool area of the yard or.

Speaker 2 (01:00:52):
Some of the quick growing crops, right, you can plant
let us with no problem. Oh yeah, put in put
in lettuce, bradishes.

Speaker 1 (01:01:01):
Of course, bradishes in two weeks.

Speaker 2 (01:01:06):
Well it'll be up in two days probably. But yeah,
you're only looking at thirty days before you're picking radishes.

Speaker 1 (01:01:12):
So I think Tiger's saying is come what May.

Speaker 3 (01:01:15):
I think that I think that we're going to have
a hot season soon, and that's why I'm saying it's
too late for most people.

Speaker 1 (01:01:22):
But when you say that, then would that be followed
by maybe more cool weather? No, you're thinking May it's
going to pick up right on through the summer. Yes, Wow, Yes,
that's a long time.

Speaker 3 (01:01:33):
Oh, I know, and we're going to feel it this year.

Speaker 1 (01:01:37):
I have a feeling just dread this morning.

Speaker 3 (01:01:40):
Last year. Last year was rough because we had we
had a late spring, right, but look at how long
it lasted. Yeah, you know, we had dry hot weather Christmas. Yeah,
I mean all that time, you know, And I always
look at I could always base my f of the

(01:02:01):
dry hot weather in the winter because in Christmas, for
doing a Christmas tree lot, we have two things to battle.
One is keeping the trees fresh and damp so they
don't dry out quickly. And then the other thing is that's.

Speaker 2 (01:02:15):
Because you bring them in in Halloween though, yeah exactly.

Speaker 3 (01:02:18):
But the other thing is we have to be prepared
for rain because you know, I mean we're operating a
tree lot. We have chainsaws, we have things that we
need to we still need to work in the rain
if it does rain. But then at the same time,
we put up all these tents and all this stuff,
and sometimes it doesn't rain, and so we didn't use

(01:02:40):
the tents at all this sense too, it is, and
we didn't use the tents at all this year because
it never rain. It never was cool through this whole week.

Speaker 1 (01:02:51):
Now, are we going to pick up with more rain
soon or not.

Speaker 2 (01:02:54):
No, I no, no rain. That's my prediction, is Tiger's saying,
that was it. I hope you enjoyed it.

Speaker 1 (01:03:01):
Then well then if that's the case, we're all in
trouble because if not just the heat, it's the lack
of rain with the upcoming heat, because it's not enough
to get into the ground.

Speaker 3 (01:03:10):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:03:11):
I think we got into the ground.

Speaker 1 (01:03:13):
Yeah, yeah, but not in yeah. But but and in
terms of that, we don't have anymore. It's not gonna
last that long.

Speaker 3 (01:03:19):
We also are up north, got a lot of rain,
so they are they'll ship it all down to us.

Speaker 1 (01:03:24):
Sure they will problem at all. Well, sure are water
with you.

Speaker 3 (01:03:27):
But I but I don't think it's going to be hot.
I don't think this summer is going to be hot either.
I think it'll be dry, but I don't think it's
going to be hot. So I don't think you have
to worry about.

Speaker 2 (01:03:39):
The heats over here. I think he's been reading the Farmers.

Speaker 1 (01:03:43):
I have, I have exactly, Benjamin Franklin, What do you
got for? John h.

Speaker 2 (01:03:49):
Tanya says that she got distracted, So if she apologizes
if this was mentioned, okay, I'm surprised she wasn't taking notes.
Don't most of our listeners have a pad and paper.
Eighty six eighty six percent. Okay, she says on her

(01:04:10):
iceberg roses. Should she cut them back now like other roses. Yeah, now,
you can go ahead and cut them back, but you
don't cut them back icebergs unless they're too tall. You
don't have to cut back as far. Especially with icebergs,
you know, they're almost like I think they're classified maybe
as a Flora bunda, but it's more like a hybrid musk.

(01:04:31):
So the less cutting on them, the more flowers you're
going to get. So yeah, if you need them short,
cut them shorter. But anytime now through the middle of March,
that's a good time to print. If you're in northern California.

Speaker 3 (01:04:52):
They're a tough plant too, because they're they're a heavy feeder.
Because they do grow so much, so much, so quickly,
and produce so many flowers. They always have that kind
of like yellow ye tinge to the foliage and then
they don't get real thick stems, you know, like John
was talking about hating and teas and developing those those

(01:05:16):
nice stems. They just always have kind of like a
real thin stem that no matter how you prune it,
you end up with those and then the plant gets
a little floppy.

Speaker 2 (01:05:29):
Lyla mentions, she hopes you're right, because last year there
was make gray and June gloom. Yeah, so it did
not get hot.

Speaker 3 (01:05:37):
No, no, but.

Speaker 2 (01:05:39):
Even when it does get hot, don't we usually have
make gray in June gloom.

Speaker 1 (01:05:43):
Well, yeah, but it's later on. It seemed to heat.
Seems to pick up like July on. Yeah, for the
most part. Right September October is still very hot.

Speaker 3 (01:05:53):
September October, Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:05:55):
There usually are hot months, I think so.

Speaker 3 (01:05:58):
Definitely September October is that fringe months sometimes that it is.
Sometimes it's not, you know, because they have the san
Annas through October.

Speaker 2 (01:06:05):
So Leonara and Canyon Country says it's going to be
very she does.

Speaker 3 (01:06:11):
That's because she lives in an area.

Speaker 1 (01:06:12):
Yeah, always very not only is it cold, but very
very hot where she is.

Speaker 2 (01:06:17):
Yeah, like somebody in Palm Springs mentioning it's going to
be very Yeah, we had didn't Palm Springs have record
heat this year?

Speaker 3 (01:06:26):
Did they?

Speaker 2 (01:06:26):
What's it like the one eighteen one twenty?

Speaker 3 (01:06:31):
I think it did, right, I guess Death Vally, Well, no,
like that was it? Like I think I think Death
Valley's record was like one thirty.

Speaker 1 (01:06:38):
That's exactly right, okay.

Speaker 3 (01:06:39):
And I think it hit one thirty this year, this
past year, or like one twenty nine. And Palm Springs
was right there too, Johnny Way, I think they hit
their mark as far as the hottest or they were
like real close to it.

Speaker 1 (01:06:54):
It's break time, one more segment, guys, Kevin was right,
I doubt it. Back five minutes and still flying right by,
so stayed with us. One more break, one more segment,
break for Bistalk Radio. Our friends at Fertilom, thank you
for tuning in to guard in America. We are coming. Wow,
right around the last furlong to borrow a horse racing term, John.

Speaker 2 (01:07:16):
You know, the rain's over. I'm gonna go home and
start working in my garden again. Got a lot to do.
I noticed we you know, we've been talking about roses.
I noticed that I was cleaning the weeds out of
the cans of the miniature roses, and I noticed they're
all putting new growth. Oh yeah, some new stems are

(01:07:37):
probably like six to ten inches already.

Speaker 3 (01:07:39):
Oh wow, you mentioned fertilm before the break in. This
is a great time of year to put in the
humic acid, you know, you know we talked about that
before the humic products. Human acid into the soil just
helps invigorate it. But it's easy to do during the
rainy time of year season. It's not like a fertilizer

(01:08:01):
that's wasteful. It's still as good. You can put it
in anytime.

Speaker 2 (01:08:04):
What about weight preventers? Do they have a garden weight
preventer that you can sprinkle?

Speaker 3 (01:08:09):
Yeah, a pre emergent, yeah, yes, they do, John Now
pre emergence. You know, these are a funny thing because
they don't allow weeds. They don't allow seeds to Germany, right,
so they don't kill weeds, but they don't they stop
the production of seeds. They you know, the the problematic

(01:08:33):
weeds that grow from seed. They stop that cycle. And
have you used that at all in your garden yet?
Because you want some seed production too. Some of yours
are like wildflowers, right or no, You're like, I would
love to get rid of them all.

Speaker 2 (01:08:51):
Yeah. No, I on the hillside where I'm putting mulches,
I plant things. Yes, I'm putting the weed under the mulch.
Oh nice, sprinkling it under there, then putting the mulch
on top and areas where Iceland poppies have germinated. You know,
I'm just going around them so they'll be fine. But

(01:09:14):
the annual African daisies, yes, that you're talking about. I
just said, you know, if if they don't come up.

Speaker 3 (01:09:22):
They don't come up, you're fine with them not coming.

Speaker 2 (01:09:24):
Right, you've seen that. I think you've seen that hillside
when it was like weeds maybe four to six feet tall. Yes,
you couldn't even walk through there anyway. Done with that, Brian,
I'm going to make sure that everything's nice and neat.

Speaker 1 (01:09:39):
And he's got for our spring party.

Speaker 3 (01:09:41):
He's got, you know, the areas that he mulched. It
has really done a good job of keeping the weeds
down so far. You know, it's really good. Now, could
you put the weed preventter the.

Speaker 2 (01:09:58):
Why?

Speaker 3 (01:10:00):
What can I think of it?

Speaker 2 (01:10:02):
The name?

Speaker 1 (01:10:03):
Like?

Speaker 3 (01:10:03):
What is what do they call the weed prevented products?

Speaker 2 (01:10:05):
Prene No?

Speaker 3 (01:10:06):
But yeah, prene is the other emergent pre emergent pre
emergent Okay, in the mulch, like meaning like because sometimes
weeds will weed, seeds will fall in the mulch.

Speaker 2 (01:10:19):
Yeah, but you know what if that does happen, those
are real easy to pull out because the roots haven't
gone down down. And I think that a lot of
the chemicals that are pre emergents also will kill small
germinating plants. I don't know if they all work. There's
also some natural ones like corn gluten.

Speaker 3 (01:10:39):
Yeah, corn gluten.

Speaker 2 (01:10:41):
Uh. My own personal opinion is it's just a waste, yeah,
because they only last for thirty days and you got
to keep replying them.

Speaker 1 (01:10:49):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:10:50):
I definitely want to get the ones that say like
three months.

Speaker 2 (01:10:52):
Three months, yeah, or I've been putting down six months.

Speaker 3 (01:10:56):
Wow. You know, those ones are definitely killing a little weeds.
You might want to watch some shrubs.

Speaker 2 (01:11:03):
I've also been shrubs digging up some roses and moving
them to that hillside from an area where I really
neglected them.

Speaker 3 (01:11:12):
Oh.

Speaker 2 (01:11:13):
Then it's.

Speaker 3 (01:11:19):
There's a little remorse in his face right there.

Speaker 2 (01:11:23):
I saw it's a long sorry. I'm not going to
go into it right now.

Speaker 3 (01:11:27):
You feel a little sorry for that.

Speaker 2 (01:11:29):
Plant, But I do feel good when.

Speaker 3 (01:11:32):
It takes off after you plant it and take care
of it.

Speaker 2 (01:11:34):
Yeah, like you know what, it's on the verge of
death and you.

Speaker 3 (01:11:38):
Can salvage it and bring it back.

Speaker 2 (01:11:41):
I mean, this is bad. But as a kid, we
used to go down to the end of the street
on the honeysuckle bushes and catch bumble bees and honey
bees and a jar.

Speaker 1 (01:11:51):
Yeah we did that.

Speaker 2 (01:11:52):
Yeah, and then you would then we would take them
and we'd fill the jar with water and almost drownd them.
But then we would dump them out on the ground
and put them in the hospital let them recoup.

Speaker 1 (01:12:07):
Right. Yeah, but you were eighteen years old when you
did that.

Speaker 2 (01:12:11):
It's like, no, not a Jeffrey Dahmer in the mad
So that's what you're doing to your roses.

Speaker 1 (01:12:17):
You're like.

Speaker 2 (01:12:20):
The same type of thing. You know. I'm just so
happy right exactly right now with all the bees we
had this fall, they just naturally were going in my
bird bath, and I would every day have to go
out and get a little stick and you know say,
you know, hey, just drink from the edge, don't go swimming.

Speaker 3 (01:12:39):
Yeah, exactly, little lessons that you put little life reservers
in the bird bath, had.

Speaker 1 (01:12:44):
Little little places they can grab onto to get out.

Speaker 2 (01:12:48):
Paula wants to know the name of that pre emergent
Thatt lom Hans.

Speaker 3 (01:12:54):
Let me see I can find real quick.

Speaker 1 (01:13:05):
Did we sponsor this silence?

Speaker 2 (01:13:06):
Do we know you couldn't get I was just thinking
you couldn't get Dana to respond to defend herself.

Speaker 1 (01:13:11):
On the on the on the feeding the birds, on.

Speaker 2 (01:13:13):
Feeding the birds and the squirrels. But she did pipe
in with a shame on you John.

Speaker 1 (01:13:18):
Well, Danna, you went around when we talked about all
the birds that you feed in the patio, the squirrel
tarpie and the kind of seeds that you buy, what
kind of seeds, what kind of birds, because we thought
you would respond to that. But then she chimes in with,
shame on you, John for having those tendencies. Hey, we've
got about a minute to go. And that's it, guys.

Speaker 3 (01:13:37):
Wow you gallery Gallery Gallery is the one that they gallery.

Speaker 2 (01:13:43):
This is coming a Shaker camp bag bag.

Speaker 3 (01:13:46):
Yeah, so uh and then they have ones that you
can put in like your lawns that you know, the
weed and feed products as well, and dollar weed control.
Do you dollar weed here?

Speaker 1 (01:14:01):
No?

Speaker 3 (01:14:01):
No, that's like a Texas thing, right yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:14:04):
By the way, uh, pre emergent crabgrass control in southern
California needs to go down right now.

Speaker 1 (01:14:10):
You better do it by two o'clock this afternoon, if
not earlier. Yeah, we gotta go. We gotta say goodbye.
Thank you so much. It was a quick show, even
though Kevin had me down back in by five minutes
or so. Enjoy the rest of your weekend. We are
back next week for sure. We're right back in the
studio for Guard in America, Biz Talk Radio, Fertilom. Thank
you for other Fertilom inquiries, coupons. We'll talk about that.

(01:14:32):
We'll have Fertilom on and we'll discuss that. More fertil Home,
more guard in America. I'm Brian Maine, John Begnasco, Tucker
Pollo Fox. Enjoy the rest of your weekend, have a
safe weekend. Again. We are back right here in studio
from my Heart Media and Entertainment, San Diego, California. Take care,

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