Helping Animals with Dr. Jon Enyart of Project Wildlife - Garden America Podcast Radio Show [2.3.24] - Garden America - Gardening Podcast & Talk Radio Show

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enjoying all the flora and fauna.Yeah, that's what he wanted to
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I'm going to try to make itto a green sand beach. It's like

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A shows, even though he doesn'tdo anything. You know, this is
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and we stumbled out of the gate. What we tripped up? Get back
up again? Join the race.Yeah, we were just too busy on

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recorded show, which it is noproblem, but we are live on Facebook.
That means there's no going back.Yeah, they they already know it.
We make a mistake, and yes, I'm sure it's entertaining for a
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Those listening to us on Alexa,those on Spotify, those on Google,

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go to our website Guardinamerica dot com. Well, by the way, speaking
of that tiger you mentioned this morning, the trip to Costa Rica now is
officially sold out. Is officially soldout. Yes, there is a wait
list that is been started for gueststhat would like to go, but at

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the moment, the trip is soldout. Yes, Okay, Now again
there's there's a waiting list. Iwould imagine some people they have to cancel
for whatever reason, and we'll we'llupdate people if they're really curious and want
to go at the last minute.Exactly exactly. But we're excited for the
people that are going to be joiningus. Excellent trip. We got a
lot of fun plan I've been talkingto the organizers of the trip, Collette,

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and kind of getting in some moredetails. So I look forward to
kind of expanding on some of thethe tours that we're going to be doing
on a daily basis. So Imean, I mean, I've been doing
some coffee research. You know whatyou're you're the guy that's going to make
all this happen once we get there, in conjunction with whoever are our host
is from Collette, because now sometimeswhat they do on these on these trips,

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they'll have like maybe two three,four people, depending upon what you're
doing that day, because they're theexperts on whatever it is we're seeing.
Like, you know, you'll havesomebody for the coffee plantation, and maybe
somebody else for the the orchids,right, and then somebody else for another
tour through the jungle all different becausethey are experts in that area. And
then you know we you know,you, Bryant, me, you,

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me and John will also love togive our little tidbits of information throughout because
absolutely, you know, that's whatwe're there for, is to be able
to kind of answer questions and helpguide people and you know, just talk
more about what we are all doingin detail. I mean, that was
the fun part about England is aswe're touring through the gardens and we have

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hosted tours, and we have hostedtour guides. But you know, when
you're just talking and you're talking abouta plant or talking about some kind of
design element, it's kind of funto be able to kind of chit chat
with other people about it. Soabsolutely, and again, but you've been
there twice, yes, So ifyou have any Costa Rica questions, to
direct them to Tiger. Yes.Now, Now, when you were there

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twice, did you I'm sure thesecond time around you did some of the
same things, but perhaps the secondtime around you did something you didn't do
the first time around. Yeah.So I've gone to different areas, Okay,
So I've I've flown into San Joseand I've flown into Tamarindo, so
both airports that service pretty much allof Costa Rica. And so you know,

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I've got to see two sides ofof the country, west coast to
east coast. It's kind of likein a way, south and north Okay,
So south and north Oka. Yeah, And so you know with that
you get to see different parts.And definitely the northern part is more rural,
less populated than the southern part,where kind of San Jose is the

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more populated city. Now fly ina different area. We fly into San
Jose, we fly into San Jose, and we fly out of Tamarindo.
Okay, so we fly into likethe southern central area north and then leave
out of the north. Okay,very good. Yeah, Now any idea,
So between let's forget the north southfor a second. Let's go east
west, Yeah, from the PacificOcean into what would be the other side,

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which would be the Gulf Yeah GolfYeah, Indian. So how long
is that like if you had todrive that, I'd say probably drive wise,
maybe nine hours, not terribly far, not terribly far, but but
that's kind of a tough estimate becausethe other thing with Costa Rica is roads

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and stuff. Their infrastructure is notnot all there. I mean, I
mean we were driving on major roadsand they were still dirt crossings. It's
kind of a thing and they wantto, you know, there's there's no
reason for them to be competive.Completely developed. No, keep it the
way it is, keep the charm. They have completely developed areas. But
that is one of the cool thingsabout the Costa Rican government or the people

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of Costa Rica is that they've choseto preserve a lot of their country.
So they are they say, hey, yeah, yeah, go for it.
You can developed this area by allmeans, beaches, hotels, all
that fun stuff, visit and allthat, but we're gonna see over here
you can't touch it. Yeah yeah, So there you go. So if
you are going with us, whichby the way, April twenty first through

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the twenty ninth, if you're goingwith us, we look forward to it.
If you're now contemplating, ah gee, maybe I should have made my
reservation, hang in there because therecould be some cancelations. And again,
the entire itinerary is on our websiteat Guardinamerica dot com. Yeah yeah,
exactly. Uh ready for the quoteof the week. Oh don't. I
don't want to. I don't wantto miss that too, you know,
starting off. Yeah, well,you know we've kind of smoothed things out.

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Yeah, those of you that werewith us from the very beginning,
I'm sure that was pretty entertaining foryou. Have to look, all right,
my quote of the week Steve wasso wonderful to bring wildlife into our
living rooms and let us see thatanimals, that animals we used to be
afraid of are so important. TerryIrwin, Yeah, talking about Steve Everwin,

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crocodile hunter, and so it wasso wonderful to bring wildlife into our
living rooms and let us see thatanimals we used to be afraid of are
so important. Yeah, I'm gonnabring in a fifteen foot alligator into the
living room, but don't worry,it's gonna be okay. Yeah. Yeah,
Now, Steve Rwin, I mean, who was the predecessor of Steve

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Ward and Hannah? Jack Hannah.Oh, it was kind of like that.
I mean, he wasn't he wasn'tso much the explorer. He was
just more the educator, right right, you know, Jack Hannah, I
don't know if he did explore likemaybe he did, but I just remember
him being more of the educator.But yeah, Steve Irwin obviously the crocodile
hunter. How's our audio? Bythe way, We're okay, we're getting

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a little I think, so Ithink we're good. That was Rick.
Okay, Rick, let us know. Sometimes it's on your end. We'll
make sure we've got off to abumpy start. But yeah, according to
Tiger, we're okay. So yeah, there was Jack Hannah, and there
was a couple of guys during histime in before him as well. You
go back to the sixties Mutual ofOmaha Wild Kingdom, which is very old

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school. Yeah, they were doinga lot of these explorations and getting into
the jungle and getting into the savannah, Africa, so on and so forth,
and then Steve Rowin picked it upin the nineties and ran with it.
What a cool What a cool timefor people interested in animals, because
to think that, you know,you went from only reading books, yeah,

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or hearing about these animals, toall of a sudden now being able
to see them right and then nowall of a sudden being able to have
them actually be you know, inzoos and other things that people can actually
see them real life. They mustbe phenomenal, you know. I mean,
I think we take my kids takea lot of things for granted.
Thank you, Carla. Marlon Perkinswas mutual of Omaha. You know.

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I remember one of his famous linesbecause he had a buddy that was with
him and Marlon Perkins would would narrate, okay, and he would say something
like, and there's Bill. Let'swatch as he tags the beast. Bill's
all by himself with three lions outthere. Good luck Bill. You know,
how's this kind of play out.Let's see if Bill makes it through
this. But you know, talkingabout Steve Irwin again, he's been responsible

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for a lot of people in thelast fifteen twenty years that want to be
like him. Oh yeah, there'sa lot of YouTube channels out there where
these young guys that are doing prettymuch what he did and he inspired them.
Hey, speaking of animals, We'vegot a guest on today who has
a very important position with wildlife andthe San Diego Humane Society, Right we're
going to be having I guess itwould be doctor John Enyart, the senior

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director of San Diego Humane Society ProjectWildlife Program. So he's a doctor veterinarian
with the San Diego Humyane Society's ProjectWildlife, which for those of you that
don't know what Project Wildlife is is, it's actually goes. They go out
and save animals. They do rightexactly. So for the city of San
Diego, if you happen to stumbleupon an injured bird or injured coyote or

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raccoon or skunk or bob Gatt,you know, anything that there's here in
San Diego, you can call themand they will send out representatives to be
able to collect that animal, evaluaterepair, and bring it back to health
and then release it again. So, you know, that's such a good
thing. My wife and I supporta lot of these organizations, sanctuaries,

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organizations that bring in endangered animals oranimals that are hurt or that people leave
by the side of the road.I mean, you know, exotic animals
for the most part play a bigrole in some of these sanctuaries. So
it's going to be nice talking tothe doctor and again those on Facebook live
any questions comments, then of coursewe're here to answer those questions for you.
Yeah, so we're excited to talkto doctor Anyard about you know,

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what they do at the San DiegoUmane Society Project Wildlife, and what we
can do because the reason why we'rehaving him on specifically this time is February
is the kind of like National birdFeeder Month. I'm bird Month. So
we're getting into ornithology right now.Okay, we're going to take a break.
We're going to get a hold ofthe doctor here during that break.

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here talking about the San Diego HumaneSociety and some good things that they do
for animals that really need our help. Yeah. So this morning we have
doctor John Enyard from the San DiegoHumane Society Project Wildlife you know division,
and doctor Nier. You are aveterinary doctor for that organization. So when

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the sick or injured animals come in, you're one of the maybe the first
people that maybe see that that animaland evaluate, you know, what could
possibly be done. Is that true? Yeah, good morning, and hopefully
you can hear me. Okay,yeah, you sound good. Okay,
great, Yeah, to answer yourquestion, you know, we are a
wildlife rehabilitation center. I am oneof the veterinarians there and the senior director

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for the program. We take inten to twelve thousand wild animals a year
from San Diego County. Sixty fiveto seventy percent of those patients are birds.
Wow, And so we do seequite a few of them and when
they come through, we just dowhat we can to get them either fix
their injury or raise them if they'reorphaned, and get them back out in
the wild where they belong. Andnow you know, we say that this

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is a division of the San DiegoHumane Society, which I think a lot
of people connect Humane Society with kindof like you know, dogs and cats.
But you know this is also thisisn't just dogs and cats. This
is like you said, you know, wildlife. This is animals that are
are you know, native species thatlive out there in the wild, and

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you know, you bring them inand then rehabilitate them and then your goal
is to release them. Is thatright? Yes? Absolutely, I apologize
it might be on my side,but I'm not hearing everything you're saying there.
So if the question is just youknow, it's our job to help
the native wildlife and get them backout there, then absolutely, Okay.
Hey, so you know you're Isee in your bio you're from Kansas and

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you've kind of made your way outhere, maybe through UC Davis where you
went to college for veterinarian edison,But it seems like you've always had a
passion for animals. You know,did that start while you were in Kansas
there? Yeah? Absolutely, youknow it wasn't so much rural but one
of the smaller towns in Kansas,uh. And it really was something where,

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you know, my brother and Igrowing up my dad, anytime we
saw you know, an injured orherd animal on the side of the road
or wherever we were walking, wewould get it to the local wildlife center
there. And that just sparked sucha passion for me along the way,
and it's continued. It's never reallywant or you know, gone away at
all. So so, you know, this kind of touches close to home
for me because my daughter, she'sthirteen years old right now, and we

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call her the animal whisper because shehas no fear of any creature, which
is actually probably not very good.I get good in bed you're painting upon
the animal exactly. So she lovesto just reach out while we're on hikes
and while we're anywhere to animals andstuff, and I'm like, yeah,
you gotta be where you gotta watchfor some of these animals. So were

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you were you that kind of childgrowing up that you you did it.
You just saw an animal and youknow, you were just like, I
got to help this thing out.Yeah, you know, it's interesting because
anytime one was in need, wedid what we could. Of course,
we knew our limitations, whether itwas a raccoon or a skunk, you
know, there're the one that kindof steered clear of and had someone professional
experts take care of it, right. But we also just like looking on

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the rocks and finding snakes, youknow, and that kind of stuff,
and so yeah, always weary,but I learned a lot more over the
years as to which ones were mostappropriate to help. Now you mentioned you
mentioned early on about birds. Thatis most of what you deal with,
I imagine here in San Diego County, though you do come across exotic animals,
and for the most part of theseanimals that the general public or somebody

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brings to you. Yeah, andthere are some regulations through the state in
the federal government that we have tofollow, so we tend not to I
mean, technically we can't take ina lot of those things. We had
a lemur show up one day afew years ago, had you know,
a little marmoset, which is asmall primate, and those we tend to
have to work with the government tokind of figure out what to do.
But we are not regulated or permittedto actually rehabilitate those those types of animals.

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Well, yeah, I would imagineso because they're not native of San
Diego. These these are animals Iwould imagine somebody else brought in. Is
that right? Absolutely? Yeah.And then there are many others such as
like the ready ard slider, wherethey're considered a little bit more invasive and
they're out there and prevalent in thecommunity. Oh okay, So now you
know one of the big reasons whywe brought you on February, you know,

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National Bird Month, bird feeder Month. You know, a lot of
people will wonder why February is sucha big month for birds, and it's
just I think comes down to it, it's a very cold month for wildlife
in general, and birds struggle duringthis time of year to have food sources.
Right now, you guys promote alot of like habitat gardens that yeah,

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absolutely. You know, we wedon't quite advocate for the bird feeders,
but if someone's going to have them, then we really try to support
what they're going to do. Soif you have them, we're just making
sure to clean them regularly, keepthem away from windows because birds, unfortunately
do fly in the windows often,you know, again trying to keep the
volume down and still you know,native plants around, anything we can do

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to kind of help them out alongthe way. We also are in much
of a climate where that cold weatherimpacts them finding resources. There's quite abundant
resources in San Diego County, butyou know, you get out east a
little bit and it can be harderin the winter months. Yeah, so
you know, this is the timeof year for people to kind of maybe
think about you know that I mean, and then you know, in the
springtime planting some shrubs and trees andplants that can help them out down the

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road. It's going to be nothingbut beneficial. And and do you find
that, you know, obviously withurban development, you know, their natural
resources are going to becoming more andmore scarce. You know, do the
bird populations here in San Diego arethey kind of you know, similar or
have they kind of fallen off?Do do you I mean, seeing all

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the different varieties, do you startto see more of one type of bird
and then less of another one?Yeah, that's a really interesting question.
And I would say, you know, we see a two hundred and fifty
to three hundred species of animals everyyear, wild animals and whether they're native
or non native, established, etcetera. We really do kind of see
the big variety, and it's hardto say if one over the other because

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weather systems and patterns change, andso depending on what's going on. We've
also had, you know, thishighly pathogenic avian influence that's kind of been
going through the bird population in thelast two years. That's been a little
bit difficult to decide or discern whetheror not certain bird populations and die offs
or disease processes are related to that. But it goes in waves, and

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I would say overall, you know, we have a good collaboration with many
of the local animal people, likethe National History Museum, so we do
look to them to kind of tellus, you know, what are you
seeing, and it just it's oneof those things where we see it.
In Wage this last year there wasa lot of robins, and we don't
see very many robins down here,but we believe it was a weather system
that kind of and probably limited resourcesup north that pushed them down here because

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we got anywhere from I would saythirty to fifty when we normally see like
five a year. Yeah, kindkind of off topic, but it's kind
of like the killer whale situation herein Sandygo. Right now, we're like,
wait a minute, Yeah, we'rewe're not accustomed to seeing these big
black and white animals off the coast, but they're here now, and you
know, okay, we'll see whathappens. Let me ask you about those

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robins. You mentioned that we're perhapsblown off course or there was a weather
issue there. Now that they're here, will is this the kind of climate
in San Diego that they may takeup shop here and just make this become
part of their territory. Hard tosay. It's it's unlikely that they would
do a year round. They're migrating, you know, and so I think
I think they'll come and go.But I haven't seen nearly as many as

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we did over the last spring andsummer. I wouldn't be surprised if they're
back. You know, they foundthe place where there's good resources, so
it's hard. You know, it'sexpected they might just remember that and swing
back by, even though it's nottheir typical migration pattern. Yeah, definitely.
Hey, we get I to takea quick break. When we return,
we're going to continue talking with doctorJohn Enyart with the San Diego Humane

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Society in Project Wildlife. Right andeven though we're focusing on San Diego those
are you with any questions, pleasefeel free right there on a Facebook page.
And of course we're going to takea break. As Tiger mentioned,
for our friends on BIS Talk Radio, do stay with us. Happy weekend.
This is Garden America. Thank youfor joining us. All righty,
we are back from the break.Those on BIS Talk Radio. Thank you
for tuning in the rest of youon the Facebook live. Remember any questions

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comments come to mind, post themright there on our comments page. As
we continue our conversation, we're talkingabout wildlife this morning and some of the
great things that they're doing for theanimals here in San Diego. Yeah,
and I just want to make sureto mention before we start talking with doctor
John Enyard again that the San DiegoHumane Society has a wonderful website with tons,

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tons of information videos and that aboutwildlife about uh, you know,
dogs and cats in general. Theyhave wonderful support groups for behavioral issues with
dogs and cats. You know.Project Wildlife helps with the rehabilitation of the
you know, you know, wildanimals out there as well. So if

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you're looking for more information, pleasego to their website, the San Diego
Humane Society website and you can followthe links and find out more information.
Now, doctor Enyard, you know, you're you know, uh a doctor
veterinary medicine working with Project Wildlife.You know, we're talking birds right now,

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you know, I mean, whatdo you being here in southern California,
San Diego. Top bird that youbring in is it a seagull?
As far as numbers go, Yeah, it's usually the songbirds, you know,
and it's the babies because whether theirnest has been you know, affected
by weather or another animal. Nowwe see a lot of goals SeaWorld rescue

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luckies nearby and they take a lotof the seabirds as well. So yeah,
the most common bird is going tobe, you know, despair of
the French many of the songbirds andmockingbirds, et cetera, and that.
And you're saying that it's a lotof times the young ones that maybe they
were you know, maybe something happenedto the parents, maybe they fell out
of the nest, that kind ofa thing. Yeah. Absolutely, it's

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so hard to determine. We reallyhave a strong emphasis on mitigating intakes.
We really want people to kind ofwe want to educate the community on what
they're seeing. You know. Soif a fledgling's down on the ground,
is mom around, are they actuallyjust watching their baby learn how to fly?
Or doesn't really need to be broughtin. So those are really important
factors we look at. But ifthey're nestlings and they're you know, super
young, then sometimes it's a treetremmor. Sometimes, like I said,

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the weather just knocks them down,and you know, unfortunately the parents occasionally
have to have to abandon the nestto the predators and then we do our
best to be their mamma there atthe center and get them back up and
as good as possible. But nothing'sas good as mother nature when it comes
to raising those babies. Oh,I'm sure, right, I mean,
you know, I mean we've allseen the videos on you know, the

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nest and the parents bringing the foodback to the nests and feeding and teaching
these birds how to fly. Imean, you know that you're right,
you know, I mean, I'msure you guys do a wonderful job there
at Project Wildlife. But at thesame time that you know, it's probably
very difficult to mimic, you know, mom and dad there in the actual
nest, Tycker. We've got acouple of questions. Okay, we get
to let me you you go ahead, Okay, Rick, let's see here.

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So doctor Rick says that he movedto Idaho growth and development is booming.
How important is it for the governmentor private sector to create nature park
areas to help with birds during theirmigration. It's a great question, Rick,
I think it's so important. Ithink that you know, human impact
is everything to us. It's abig part of our mission is to do

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what we can to kind of,you know, make it as minimal as
possible. Of course that's impossible tomake it completely absent, so we just
those types of things are are supervaluable. I think anytime we can do
it in our own ecosystem and ourown yard and just create a little place
for them versus even or as wellas supporting and developing places for those birds

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to kind of stop by. That'swhat the migration is. They're tired,
They're going hundreds and hundreds of miles, and so anytime that that place they
were familiar with last year is gone, it would be great to make sure
they have somewhere else to go whenthey when they arrive and are expecting resources.
You know, hey, I'm sorry, go ahead, tiger. Well
you know what I was just goingto say was it's it's amazing to me

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what a little bit can do.And when I say this, as people
think like, oh, you know, I mean I have a small backyard,
I have a small front yard,and I can't do a lot.
You know, there's not a lotI could do for wildlife, and it's
amazing planting a few, just afew, a handful of shrubs or small
trees or some perennials. What thatwill actually attract into your yard. They

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find it, you know, Imean whether it's butterfly plants or hummingbird plants
or bird plants, they find itand they come. I mean, I
try to do that in my inmy backyard and only plant like one or
two things. Next thing, youknow, I walk out there and you
know, I've got all kinds ofyou know, different birds that I've never
seen ever in my backyard before.Right, and they find it. It's

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pretty cool how they do that,right, doctor, Absolutely, it's funny.
I'm sitting outside in my back accessorunit and there's a squirrel and a
bird that are just talking to eachother. You started. So, yeah,
anything we can do to provide themthat they will come, they will.
Hey, doctor, and I gota quick story for you. For
the past three or four years,we've had a pair of doves take up

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residency and build a nest and raisetheir young in our patio. Now.
Where they're doing it's it's out ofthe way, it's protected from the crows
and other possible predators. And it'sbeen there and they're very close to our
our sliding glass doors, so wecan watch everything. They're used to us.
We can come and go in thepatio. They don't fly away,
obviously, they've built up some kindof trust with us. And for the

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past three or four years now,these are doves. We've watched them lay
eggs, we've watched them raise theiryoung, we've watched them kick them out
of the nest. We've watched theyoung hang out in the patio area and
eventually fly away. But again thisyear, the doves came back in January
and they just now finished raising.Uh. Well, one of the birds
didn't make it and one of theeggs fell out of the nest. But

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again they've done it again this yearand they're looking to do it again.
Is that a normal situation for dovestoo? Maybe? What mate, what
four or five six times a year? Yeah, they can have a few
clutches for sure. And you know, you just described my house right now.
It's so funny. Porch and backporch. They just keep putting back
and forth depending on what's comfortable forthen. So yeah, they know what's

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familiar, and it does depend onthe species, you know, and how
far they're migrating. These guys probablyaren't, so they're just hanging out and
they enjoy that that pretty temperate climatethat's always there for us. Yeah,
I would imagine because they've been successfulat hatching their young in our patio,
that's why they're coming back year afteryear. Uh, there's a certain trust
with my wife and I walking outinto the patio. We don't get close

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on purpose, but we do haveto do some work out there, and
they seem very comfortable. So it'sit's it's it's exciting to see that each
year and to know it's the samecouple back doing it. It's like,
Hey, we're coming home to raiseour family again. Because we know that
it's safe and for the most part, you humans, we trust you.
Yeah, it is neat Now youcan get that bond the wild animals,

(27:47):
you know, doctor yard, youknow, so you know, when it
comes to people, you know,having wildlife in their their yard. Are
there any tips that you can givepeople in terms of, you know,
to keep them safe along with yourown family, because it's you know,
I mean, I'm sure it's findingthat balance right between you know, inviting

(28:11):
these wild animals to be close toyou and be around you, but then
you have your own cats and youhave your own dogs. Are there any
tips that you can give to peoplefor that? Yeah, that's always a
big one for us, just realquick. You know, Sdhumane dot org
h slash coexists is a great placeto kind of start that coexistence is everything.
And so you know, we livein San Diego. There's a lot

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of coyotes in these canyons, andwe hear a lot of you know,
hey, I've seen more coyotes lately, and what about my little dog?
And there's a lot of ways togo about kind of still being able to
have them here and where they belong, as well as protect your own your
own animals, and it really doesdepend on you know, what species where
you live, the location, whetheryou're a little bit further east where there's
rattlesnakes as well as the coyotes andthe bobcats out here. So you know

(28:57):
a lot of specifics that I takea while to get into, but that
website helps a lot just to getstarted. And then otherwise, you know,
just kind of being aware of what'sin your neighborhood and as well as
you know what your your pets need, they what their risks might be as
well. Yeah, and I mean, is there any resource out there?
And I mean this is just comingfrom my head, so I understand if

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there's not, Like I mean,because I'm sure people move around the city
a little bit and they might notbe aware that foxes are near them or
coyotes are near them, you know. So I mean you just got to
kind of ask around your neighbors andand see what's around if you move into
some place new, because Sandi,that's it, right, San Diego.
You've got all kinds of different canyons, different areas, and you might not

(29:42):
think, but there's wildlife in allthose spots, but you don't even know
about it because you're kind of acity person and you don't realize that stuff.
Right. Yeah, sorry, Iwas losing you a little bit.
The biodiversity here is outstanding. It'sone of the most biodiverse communities in America.
And so you know, asking yourneighbors is good. There's a great

(30:03):
app and website called I Naturalist,which actually tells you that people with a
community app where you share what you'veseen. So you know, if you
just went there and looked at that, you can kind of see, well,
what have people spotted just in myneighborhood alone, and that can be
really helpful. Then of course there'slike nextdoor and things like that where that's
where most of the coyote sightings andbobcat sightings go on. Yeah. Perfect,
all right, we are going tohave to take another break. When

(30:23):
we get back, we'll wrap upchatting with doctor Enyard with the San Diego
Humane Society Project Wildlife Organization and getsome tips on if you do see an
injured animal what you should do.Right, So do stay with us.
Those on Facebook Live, those onBizTalk Radio, thank you for tuning in.
We do appreciate it. John ishaving a good time in Hawaii.
It's myself, Brian Main and ofcourse Tiger Pealafox back after these messages for

(30:47):
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(31:08):
at eight o'clock in the West CoastEastern time zone at eleven am. Yeah,
so we have doctor Enyer joining usfrom San Diego's Humane Society's Project Wildlife.
And you know, doctor I hadkind of mentioned before the break that
you can give us some tips onwhat to do in case they see an
injured animal. Let's start off withlet's start off with a bird. You

(31:32):
know, earlier in the program yousaid, really try to investigate more why
that bird is there. Maybe maybeit's something simple that they could be left
and the you know, the parentsare around and can help it out,
don't just instantly pick it up.What are some things that people can do,
I mean, what would be thecorrect procedure about helping an injured bird.
Yeah, that's a great question.So if it's a songbird and you

(31:55):
you know, kind of like yourdoves, if you know that that nest
is there, and you see aon the ground, of course, keeping
your distance a lot of times,and it's a difficult because some people have
things to do, most of usdo, but observing it for a little
while, you know, just watchingand we would give it a couple hours
at least, just to see howit's going. You know, No songbird
that's fledging should be left on theground overnight. That's a big thing too.
And then once the once the temperaturesget colder. So we always ask

(32:20):
us to call us to call thisit's called San Diego Human Society. Our
resource center and our dispatch team cantriage those calls and then determine whether or
not that bird needs to be broughtin, and if it does, they
guide they guide the guests and thereporting party on kind of how to do
that. Whether it be especially abird that usually are not very dangerous to
us how to do that without injuringthem further, without disrupting you know,

(32:43):
their their ability to be returned tothe wild. And so the observation is
key, you know, just kindof instead of immediately saying, I'm I'm
going to go help this bird rightnow it looks like it's struggling. Now,
that's where it becomes difficult because it'shard to train someone out in the
pub like on what struggling really is. And so for most of us that
don't see these animals out there veryoften, anytime it birds on the ground

(33:07):
peeping and asking for help, it'sour heart goes to them and wants to
help them right away. Yeah,you know. And then you know,
what are some of the other thingsthat maybe some other birds, because you
know I had mentioned seagulls, I'msure we have some hawks. What about
crow crows? How about crows?Doctor? Yeah? Is that another big
one. Yeah. We see alot of corvid you know, crows,

(33:28):
ravens and jays and stuff. Sowith the crows, you know, it's
very similar. I think even withthe gulls, the crows, the raptors,
they all have much sharper and largerbeaks. Yeah, and if they
don't want to be picked up,they'll tend to let you know it.
And so a lot of times,again it would be guidance from the local
center, the local wildlife rehab oryou know, whatever the resources available in

(33:50):
that community. But again, crows, you'll tend to hear it from the
parents that they're just fledging uh andtrying to learn how to fly. Because
if that crow is hopping around andyou don't see any obvious injuries, they're
not laying on their side, notfalling over. And a lot of times
you'll either get swooped on or momor dad will be up there screaming at
you leave my bird alone. It'swhat they're working on. It. So

(34:12):
the raptors with the sharp sharper beaksand the sharper feet that we tend to
just say, you know, ifyou see something like that, you know,
of course, give us a call, give the local center a call.
And you know, a lot oftimes we just say, if you
are comfortable enough, you can usea small towel, cover them in it.
As soon as the darkness is overthem. A lot of times they
settle down, gently, pick themup, put them in a box.

(34:36):
It's you know, warm, darkand quiet is almost always the answer when
it comes to these kinds of things. And then get them to a place
that can help them as soon aspossible. Do you do you see many
birds of prey like falcons, hawks, that kind of thing that are brought
to you. Yeah, we takein about four hundred birds of prey a
year. That includes mostly redtail hawks, red shouldered hawks, great horned owls,

(34:57):
barn owls. Those are our primaryones. Occasionally the ball beak,
will occasionally the osprey, you know, which is more of what we call
the seahawk. But yeah, thoseare the primary ones. So there's a
burrowing now population, uh, severalof them here in San Diego as well,
you know, and you had mentionedthey'll swoop down on you if you
know, mom and dad are arounda friend and they know they don't need

(35:19):
help. You know, nothing putsyou in check more than a bird swooping
down on you, because I meanyou you've had it too, Brian,
all out on your back, Patty. And even a hummingbird sometimes those hummingbirds
they'll swoop on you in their territorialYeah, and in I mean you're you're
a big human being. And thisbird doesn't care it. It has no

(35:39):
fear, and and they will swoopdown on you and put you in your
place real quick. It's pretty amazing, you know what what a bird can
do. So, you know,you know, so let's kind of you
know, go now a little bitdifferent in the sense of, Okay,
we you know birds, we kindof hit that, you know, other

(36:00):
creatures, you know, I'm sureobviously dangerous creatures like maybe like a bobcat
or raccoon or something like that.You know, you guys have your contact
there at the Project Wildlife that peoplecan call and then like you said,
they'll send someone out or you know, they'll get the proper description of what's
going on in triage it from there. Right. Sorry, I lost a

(36:22):
little bit of that connection now.I was just trying to ask you to
kind of like, now go intomore of the creatures, like you know,
maybe the raccoons, its guns,the bobcats. What are something that
people can do? And so muchof this is are we providing resources for
them that we would rather not youknow, if we're if we're feeding some
community cats or an outdoor cat.Now we've offered the raccoons and the opossums

(36:44):
and really everything else to come in. And so you know, on one
side, you know, removing theresources is a good way, and honestly,
even having your pets outside to themmaybe a resource depending on if it's
a bigger predator or not. Andso just removing those sources and also setting
up boundaries for coyotes. There's thingslike coyote rollers. They are the tall

(37:05):
you know, a fence that theybe high and a little roller on top
so if an animal tried to jumpover, they wouldn't be able to.
And then with regards to just whatwe do if we see them again,
those are the animals we really recommendnot going and picking up like a raccoon,
especially if they're at rabies vector species. What we are so grateful for
at San Diego Humane Society and ProjectWildlife is our humane law enforcement that our

(37:27):
dispatched officers will go out and helpand they're trained very well on how to
handle these animals. So again we'relucky. It's a great resource. We
are a safety net for the community, so we we tend to have the
officers go out and support those communitymembers when it comes to things that are
a little bit more dangerous. Yeah, all right, perfect, Hey,
we're going to take a quick break. Let's see we've got actually, we've
got oh, we got about letme see about a minute and a half

(37:52):
and then we'll get well, we'rerattling up. Yeah, we'll wrap up
right now with doctor Anyar. Youknow, you know, we want to
make sure you know, we understandyour time is valuable. Doctor Andyar,
thank you very much for joining us. Lots of great information. We're going
to post the link we love thatco exist one and then other links to
the sanegu Humane Society's website where youcan find out more information about Project Wildlife

(38:14):
and the Humane Society, and evenways to give back and help out over
there at the Humane Society as well. Doctor Janyard, thank you very much
for joining us this weekend. Lotsof great information. I hope you have
a good weekend. Stay safe outthere. I mean next week with this
rain, it's going to be toughfor you. Probably get lots of Yeah,
we didn't expect a lot more goersat that time. Oh wow,

(38:37):
thank you. All right, wellyou take care, thank you, all
right, bye bye, thank you. Doctor all right, A lot of
good information there, and very interestingbecause you know, the tendency for a
lot of people. If oh,there's an injured animal, inter Burt,
let me let me pick it up. You know, you some common sense.
Oh my goodness, A bird anda raccoon two different things. Raccoons
can be sweet, but they alsocarrie rabies as well. Okay, that

(38:57):
said, we're going to take abreak. News coming up top of the
hour here biz Talk Radio. We'recoming back after these messages and more here
on guard in America. Welcome backto Garden America. If you're just joining
us, welcome. It's great tohave you along, whether it's the entire
show or perhaps maybe just a fewminutes or so. We like it when
you do check in. And again, thank you to our guest. Doctor

(39:17):
is at enyard right endyard. Tigerand interesting. We talked about the doves
in our patio. My wife sentme a message saying the mother bird is
already back up into the basket whereshe was nesting, ready to go again.
And their fledgling has been out ofthe nest for but maybe three or
four days at the most, andthey're back at it. They can have
about six a year I think whenthey do get together, so they're very

(39:42):
comfortable in our patio. They seemlike they're ready to go again. So
we'll clean things up out there andget ready for round two as the doves
seem to have moved in once again. Tiger, it's really neat to go
through these comments and see our listenersthat have so much interaction, so much
experience with wildlife in their yards andthey know it. I mean, you
know, it's kind of fun.I mean, I think as gardeners,

(40:04):
obviously we love plants, we lovenature, we love being out there and
admiring the flora that we can have. But I think align with that is
the you know, fauna that comeswith it, the birds, the critters,
you know, I mean, youknow, just being able to see
the different you know, critters thatcome into the yard, whether it be

(40:25):
a mouse or a raccoon, ora possum or you know, a bobcat
or a coyote too, is kindof a neat experience. Kevin, your
friend you know that joins the show, had mentioned and this is definitely heartbreaking.
Whenever you're driving along a freeway andyou do see a animal, whether
it be a bobcat or a coyote, it's heartbreaking because I mean, I

(40:49):
mean it's an accident on the sideof the road, in the road.
Yeah, but you just know thatthat animal, like you know, it
was just crossing the road and youfeel bad for it because he didn't know
better, and you know, it'sit's always a tough thing to see.
So because we've because we've encroached intheir area, Oh yeah, for sure,
that's you know, that's us gettinginto where they they lived and where

(41:10):
they thrived, right, And soI'm sure for doctor Anart there at the
Humane Society, I'm sure actually gettingthose animals brought in injured has got to
be even you know, challenging forthem because you know, sometimes they can
fix them, sometimes they can't can't. Yeah. Do you ever watch the
Dodo on YouTube? No, it'sa feel good stories about some of the

(41:30):
things that we've talked about this morning. You know, somebody comes across a
baby scrorel that falls out of atree and they take them in and they
nurse them back to health. Itcould be any animal and if you love
animals, it's a good, goodchannel to watch on YouTube. It's called
the Dodo. I was trying torecall it when doctor Enyart was talking,

(41:52):
but there is a gentleman up inTahoe that chases the way bears chases them
away. Well, it's a funnystory. He started off as a hunter.
He was a hunter, and hehunted everything, and in one day
he's like, you know what,and you know, I'm kind of done
hunting, done killing animals. Yeah, and you know, and he's not

(42:13):
afraid to kill an animal even today. But he just wanted to be more
focused on rather than because back inthe day, you know, when a
bear encroached in the area, theyshot and killed it because they were like,
if it's gonna be here now,it's gonna stay here, right.
Well, he developed ways to putfear in the bears to stay away and

(42:34):
not kill them. So that's hisjob, is to cruise around and he
gets called when someone sees a bearand they're in a drainage ditch or in
a trash pile or in someone's backyard, and he uses these devices and these
tools to help scare it so thatway, hopefully it'll get so scared it'll
be like I'm not coming back hereagain. You know. It's interesting bear

(42:55):
story. I saw a feature andit was in Alaska, and you know
there are people out there that domore or less the same thing. Now,
they'll bring tours out there. Yeah, we're talking grizzly in taal We're
talking brown bear, black bear,mild bears. So stay with me here.
So what they do. They havetours and they stay way away.

(43:17):
You know, you've got binoculars andyou're you're watching bears. But what will
happen is this. They'll be upthere'll be a female bear with their cubs,
and that's when you have to beObviously, we're fairly careful. So
they're monitoring it, and they'll noticefrom time to time the female and her
cubs are getting a little close,like they coming to the people, to

(43:37):
the people, and they're like,okay, this is interesting, let's stand
our ground, but let's also bevery careful. Why is she doing this,
especially with cubs. The female doesthis when they're being stocked or followed
by a male who wants to mate. And so what happens the closer they
get to the humans, the malebacks off. He backs off because of

(43:59):
the the other people. Right,So that's how smart they are. They're
using us as deterrent. Exactly.Here's another here's something else, since we're
talking about animals that I find fascinating, not bears necessarily, but you know
in Safari, you go to Africa, you go to on safari, and
you're in an open jeep. Yeah, and the animals don't attack you.

(44:21):
Why because they look at that jeepas one big animal or possible predator.
They don't see individual humans necessarily.They see the jeep, they see the
car. That's one entity. Now, if you get out, you're in
trouble because say, if something thatattacks that jeep and everybody starts fleeing,
here you're done for. Because you'llsee a tour guide in the front of

(44:45):
the jeep driving and maybe he's outsidesitting on the jeep dangling his legs off.
They don't for the most part,they don't bother them. Yeah.
So just a little you know,interesting tidbits of information in facts, especially
the bear story. I thought thatwas interesting how the male backs off.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, that'sthat. That is pretty neat it.
You know, I love you know, nature and animals, and like I

(45:06):
had said to doctor Anya Tassia,you know loves she it's one of her
dreams or something that really is oneof her dreams, and I feel like
she has the capacity and the abilityto do it. But even more so
than that, she just has thisability with with animals, she has this
you know, it's I find itvery true that animals can sense fear,

(45:29):
like they have more senses than us. Oh, absolutely, you know they
do. They just it's scientific thatanimals have more sensory abilities than humans do,
just with smells and with their earsand with just everything. And that's
because they need to survive, right, And I think Tassia can can be

(45:51):
calm, and I think animals sensethat where people might be agitated, they
might be scared, they might befeeling aggressive, and animals can feel Tassia
just you know, zooms a calmnessand then the animals just go okay,
you know, like I'm not youknow, I shouldn't be scared of her.
And we should encourage our kids.Whatever you're good at, whatever you

(46:13):
like, make a profession out ofit, because because you know what,
then you'll never have to work againthe rest of your life because you're doing
something you love. And you know, speaking of the calmness of being calm,
you know, I mentioned to thedoctor, but our doves, I
mean, you've been in our patio. I can reach right up there.
You could easily knock that thing downif you want it. And they just
look at us. They know us, they know we're not going to hurt

(46:34):
them. But again we're we're tryingto be respectful as well, and I
think they understand that and they feelthat. And when you walk out there,
you're not walking out there with thisfeeling of frustration and anger, and
they are like, hey, he'sgonna be cool. They're fine. Yeah.
So but anyway, Dana says she'sup there again, ready to go.
So here we go January February.So, but it's cool. Every

(46:54):
single year I was shocked to hearfrom the doctor about, you know,
the the vast numbers that they see, and also the diversity, you know,
the the hundreds and hundreds of differentspeedies right right, the all I
did not realize. I mean,if you were to ask me to name
the wildlife in San Diego, Imight be able to come up with a

(47:16):
solid ten. You know, acoyote, a raccoon, apossum, a
crow, yeah, maybe maybe afox. Yeah fox. Now you live
on a canyon, right yeah,yeah, yeah, what have you seen
I haven't seen a fox, butI have seen coyotes, and I do
hear coyotes. Yeah, they're everywhere. Yeah, but you know, oh

(47:37):
and I've seen I've had rattlesnakes.I've had rattlesnakes in my yard. Yeah.
So I didn't gopher snake, sogardener snake. So you want the
gopher snake there? Oh? Yeah, that I let that one go.
The only one I relocated was therattlesnake, right, And how did you
do that? Yourself? Put itin a bucket. So I just got
a bucket and a stick and pushedit into the bucket. And then I

(48:00):
took that bucket and dumped it intoan area of the canyon. Yeah,
you need to get a snake hook. Sounds like I should, huh.
You know anyway. Oh, bythe way, those watching you're on Facebook
Live, we can do gardening too. Yeah. It doesn't have to be
an animal question. No, I'mjust no worries at all. So whatever's
on your mind again? John isin Hawaii this week. He is back

(48:20):
next week. Mostly on Facebook thismorning, it's comments on the subject matter
we're talking about. We're just funto see what's out there, right,
Oh, I do want to say, and I'll look it up right now
and get the information. But somethingthat is coming up for those people that
are interested in the bird population oftheir area, and we get a break
in about thirty seconds too, isthe National bird Count. So when you

(48:42):
get back from break, I'll talkabout what that means and how you can
get involved with that. Okay,do stay with us again, those on
Facebook Live take this show in anydirection you want to. Whatever's on your
mind. We can get back togardening or maybe incorporate some animal stories or
questions along those lines. Those onBistok Radio. Once again, this is
a pre recorded show from last week. In fact, speaking of BIS talk

(49:02):
Radio, we're going to take abreak, so remember this next break is
for you on BIS talk Radio.Alrighty, welcome back to Garden America.
Those on BIS talk Radio, goodfriends of ours, all of you on
Facebook Live. We love seeing yournames each and every week. We love
to see the camarader We love tosee you talking and chatting back and forth,
and of course the questions that yougive us here on Guarden America.

(49:25):
So that said, talker, what'sgoing on? Well, let me answer
Veronica's question real quick and then I'llget into the national bird count. But
Veronica asked, with all this rain, when would be a good time to
fertilize my fruit trees in pots now. Veronica did also comment that she has
seen a wolf and a cougar inher yard, a war or a wolf.
She's seen a wolf or cougar andcougar. And so depending on where

(49:51):
you're at, Veronica, you wantto wait to fertilize your fruit trees and
tell your last chance of frost.So for citrus or for your stone fruits,
you want to wait until frost iscompletely over because you do not want
to encourage growth during the colder months. So for us in southern California and

(50:15):
San Diego, we would not befertilizing our fruit trees until the end of
February beginning of March, because thenthat's kind of like our last chance for
frost. But it is a itwould be wonderful to utilize this rain to
help water in that fertilizer. Andyou can do that for your shrubs,
trees, lawns, things like that, but stay away from the citrus,

(50:37):
yeah, because I mean you're riskputting out a lot of growth. And
then if it gets cold. That'swhat will get hit the worst is that
new growth. But let me askyou this what it can't be good growth
this time. But the even thoughyou're fertilizing and you're encouraging growth, that
can't be healthy growth. It's earlyand it doesn't need Yeah, so you're

(50:57):
not helping it get started any earlieryou and you can almost hurt it by
pushing out, you know, especiallywhen it comes to the stone fruits,
if you try to get those toproduce quicker than they should, they like
this rest period. They like thisdowntime. You're gonna get better flowering,
better fruit production, more fruit production, you know, if you let them
rest during this time of year.So your your apples, your cherries,

(51:21):
your your plums, you know thoseones. Let them rest. Don't start
to fertilize them until you start tosee those first buds developing. So I
think that answered Veronica's question. TheNational Global Bird Count February sixteenth through the
nineteenth I posted a link on thebird count dot org just as global.

(51:43):
Yeah. So it's a way thatthe you know, Audubon Society, the
Cornell Lab, all these organizations.You are the scientists out there and helping
them find the populations of birds allaround the country, around the world.
So because I mean birds, migratorypatterns, populations, they are the thing

(52:06):
that scientists use to kind of understandit what's happening. I mean, you
know, doctor Anyard mentioned this numberof robins that he had never seen,
right, all right, but it'sprobably based on weather or based on food,
and these are things that they wantto understand what's happening in our world.
And birds, birds, since theymove around our world so freely,
are are great indicators about what's happening, what's going on, you know what?

(52:29):
What what can maybe we learn fromthem? So okay, now Rick's
got a question. Rick, I'mgonna encourage you to email me so I
can get back to you on yourquestion about setting up an aquarium. Rick,
you can email me at bmin atiHeartMedia dot com, b Main at
iHeartMedia dot Com. And Rick we'lltalk. We'll talk about setting up your

(52:49):
aquarium, Rick, and I've gotI've got loves talking aquarium. I've got
a few questions for you before weget into what kind of plants you should
put in there, so on andso forth. Yeah, So Rick,
we can talk offline. I've gota seventy five gallon aquarium, Rick,
so I think I can help youget started. So yeah, so,
you know, with the rains comingthough, like you know Veronica mentioned,
it is a great time I've beenfertilizing, and I do highly recommend only

(53:15):
using organic fertilizers, especially this timehere with the rains, because to be
honest with you, all the chemicalfertilizers that you put down they're just gonna
wash away. Yeah, they're notgonna help you. So, so don't
waste your money and don't waste yourtime on chemical fertilizers. But putting in
organical organic, organical, I likethat. You like that, is it

(53:35):
organical? Yeah, it's pretty.In Organic fertilizers or using things like humic
or compost, they are great thingsto do before rains because then you know
they're gonna go into the soil,they're gonna stay there, They're not gonna
leach into the storm drains. They'renot just gonna wash away and it waters
it all in wonderful. Now,for the most part, if you use

(53:58):
a chemical fertilizer, you're feeding theplant itself and not necessarily the ground,
the soil or the environment, right, and that's why they just wash away
with rain exactly, it just goesaway. It doesn't go into the plant
at all. So you know,that's why the organic fertilizers are much better
to be able to put down.They stay in the soil and they feed
this on like you mentioned, Brian. Yeah, yeah, so the plants
can take up the nutrients as theyneed it exactly exactly. So yeah,

(54:22):
so great time turn off your irrigationsystems. Have no point I mean,
especially I don't know, I meanfrom San Diego all the way to northern
California. From what I've seen,they're getting more rain as well. We're
getting rain that there should be noreason why people are irrigating right now,
and no reason to wash your carthat as well. So again we've got

(54:45):
a brief respite today from the rain, but again for the next five days
after rain, rain, more rain. And those of you in California know
what I'm talking about. Yeah,so get ready for that. Make sure
your drains are clear. And youknow the one thing I was thinking about,
I have I have these two downspouts, and I've got these big
cypress kind of like maybe they're juniperjuniper tree bushes in my backyard and I

(55:14):
have the down spouts just drain intothem, and I have no big deal,
Like I never really thought about itbeing a big deal. You got
water, You're supplying water. Yeah, but we've gotten so much water that
now I'm worried, like I gotto redirect those drains because it might be
too wet. Yeah, and thenthat could cause them to fall over,
right, Like if the soil's toowet. Trees can fall over when the

(55:35):
soil is not firm, and yougotta be careful with that. So make
sure you do watch where your waterruns, and if you've got trees in
that area, you if you candivert it, because if the soil is
too loose and you get a windor that tree has a lean to it,
it'll it'll lift up and follow over. You know, here's something else
too, because for the second timenow in two weeks, the plot,
the pot which are plemeria is plantedin in the patio has filled up and

(56:02):
I've got to dump it over,got to turn it over. So that
might be a good idea for thoseof you that maybe have plants and pots
and the rain is filling it up. Turn the pot over, drain it
and maybe just leave leave it turnedover for a period of time if you're
not going to damage the plant,so the pot doesn't fill up in that
that plant sitting in that water,it's not good for it. Not good,
Yeah, not good. You know, you're just going to develop things

(56:24):
like yeah, rought issues and thisis not really the time of year that
I want to be watering my primeuranyway. So it's it's drowning, is
what it's doing. Yeah, becausethere's no leaves, it's not processing anything,
so it's just sitting in water,like you say. Yeah, John's
happy though because he's on vacation andhe doesn't have to water his roses right,

(56:44):
not at all. He knows thatthey're being watered well. But you
know, it's funny because whenever Johngets back from a vacation or taking time
off, so HW's your yard,John, how the rose is? And
there's always a story. Well,so and so didn't really water as much
as they said they would. Theydidn't come by that day. I lost
two rows. You know, it'snever the same when you do it yourself.
Yeah, you know, it's likewhen we go on vacation and when

(57:06):
we go to Costa Rica. I'vegot to put somebody in charge of feeding
my fish. Not it's not rocketscience, but they're not gonna do it
the way I do it. Yeah, you know so. Yeah, and
they're not gonna look for the samethings you look exactly right, Like you
might have a fish that's not actingnormal, right, and they don't know,
they're just feeding. Yeah, adead plant. Should the plant be
taken out? Yeah? Maybe maybe, but not not big. These aren't

(57:29):
big issues. But again just gettingback to the fact that whatever you do
in your garden, whatever you do, no one's gonna do it as well
as you do. Yeah, exactly. Oh and we got to bring about
this, Okay, Yeah, reallyget back and back. Tiger's got a
thought. We're gonna take a breakto stay on time for bis talk Radio.
Hey, just like that, weare back those on bistalk Radio.
Thank you for your support Facebook Live. It's great to interact with you each

(57:50):
and every week. Again, Johnis back. Next week is in Hawaii.
Tiger back to your thought before beforeyou forget. Yeah, So for
those of you that do have houseplants, if you want to take on
a project with this rain number one, capture the rainwater. Somehow capture the
rainwater best water you can get.Right. Number two, take your house
plants and water them with that rainwater. That is a great next step.

(58:15):
That water is way better, waybetter than the tab water that you have,
and it's also way better than anybottled water that you can buy.
So use that water to water yourhouse plants. If you want to take
your houseplants to the next level,though, take them outside in a protected
area. Use that water in aspray bottle, miss them, wash them

(58:36):
off, let them get some ofthat you know, fresh rainwater on their
foliage. If it's not too cold. You have to be very careful with
that. This rain that we're gettingis a cold front rain, so it
is meaning it's cold weather. Youknow, if it was warm rain,
this wouldn't be such a big deal. But if you can take them out
in a protected area, spray themwith that rainwater, wash off their foliage,

(58:58):
you know, just really get givethem a good rinsing with that,
they will love it. That wateris so valuable for houseplants because house plans,
unlike your outdoor plants, they neverget that chance, they never get
that opportunity. So you have toprovide it, and even using all those
filtration systems and bodies the same,it's not the same because you know what

(59:19):
a lot of those things lack thatrainwater doesn't lack. Because people say,
well, what's so good about rainwater? Oxygen? Each drop of rain has
oxygen that they're not going to getout of tap water, they're not going
to get out of bottled water orfiltration. So that's why the rainwater is
so important. And for the mostpart, you will notice a difference after
a rain. Why do your plantslook so good? Yeah? Natural rain.
Yeah, the soil is better.That plants absorbed it through their foliage.

(59:43):
They rinsed off all that dust anddebris and soot. So really good.
So let us encourage you right nowthose on Facebook Live. We've got
another couple of segments to go,so plenty of time. Whatever's on your
mind, gardening questions, so onand so forth, let us know,
and we will do our best toanswer them for you. Whatever's on your
mind for that matter. Yeah,exactly, because you know, we love
to chat about everything here at GardianAmerica. We drift off now and then

(01:00:06):
that's okay because people tend to likethat. Then they want to jump in.
Oh, it was something I knowof, something about you know.
Yeah, well it is funny,you know, I mean back to the
wildlife, to hear about everybody's smallinteractions, and I think, I think
that's what just gravitates, right,I mean, you know, you you
remember when you see a bear,or you remember when you see a coyote
or a fox. Yeah, Imean, I mean I was, I

(01:00:28):
was blown away. We're sitting inthe middle of London, okay, in
the dead center of London, andwe're at this hotel and I look down
in this courtyard in this hotel andit's no bigger than a quarter of a
football field, this courtyard, verysmall little area, okay, surrounded by
buildings, and you're you're in thedowntown, downtown NY, okay. And

(01:00:52):
I seen I look down in themorning and there's three foxes just playing in
the middle of the grass right there, just playing in the middle of a
neighborhood, right in the middle ofan urban neighborhood. Obviously, they you
know, come out there in themornings, they hang out, maybe they
find some food or whatever that they'recomfortable, and then they scurry off into
the sewers or whatever. Whatever theydo do interesting. But I was like,

(01:01:13):
foxes in the middle of the city, and that's an exotic those exotic
animals. It's not like I don'tI think to them, they're more like
a raccoon or more like a possumor skunk. You know, I think
they are exotic to them. What'sinteresting about foxes what I've learned over the
past several years, they are across between that well, first of all,
it's a canine, but they area cross between a dog and a
cat. They've got dogs, they'vegot dog characteristics and cat characteristics. And

(01:01:37):
there are some foxes they can climba tree as good as a cat.
Oh yeah, I mean right upthat tree. So they've got a little
bit of both. They're very veryinteresting. If you're curious about foxes,
I can direct you to a YouTubechannel called Save a Fox. It's an
organization not in Minnesota, in Florida, and their job is to rescue foxes,
rehab them, take them out offur farms, and they do a

(01:01:57):
wonderful job. And it's called Savea Fox. If you're curious about foxes
in general, because it's I've learneda lot and they're a great organization.
Well, and you mentioned something thatI think people don't even realize nowadays still
is that there still are farms,like there still are these places that raise
these animals simply for harvesting them fortheir face. It's it's anything but humane,
anything but humane. So yeah,yeah, we'll see what We'll see

(01:02:20):
where that goes Save a Fox andthey're out of way? Did you say
Minnesota? And then they have aSave a Fox South in Florida. Wow.
So when people bring injured foxes tothem, u VET clinics will call
them uh fur farms. When theyget them, get the foxes and rescue
them from the fur farms, theytake them in. Now, if you're
another organization like a wildlife sanctuary,and they will vet you to make sure

(01:02:45):
that you're qualified, they will sendfoxes to you as well so that you
can you can can raise them andgive them a home, a protective home
like a foster home or these foxes. And they know they can't go into
nature exactly, so they have tofind a home for these animals. But
you can have a fox as likea sanctuary, the sanctuary as far as
privately, probably that's governed state bystate. Yeah, yeah, so I

(01:03:07):
don't know about californialy. We canhave foxs, but in certain states,
I know, but in certain statesyou can. Yeah. But let me
also mention this that that as muchas they're like a dog or a cat,
good luck on trying to potty tradethem. Oh yeah, I mean
foxes, well, they'll pee anywhere. I mean, it's a wild animal.
It's an exata, you know.But these people are, these organizations

(01:03:27):
are doing a great job, andI just want to give a shout out
to them. Yeah, definitely.I mean there's a lot of organizations out
there wherever you live, right that, yeah, that you know, you
know, we talked about the SanDiego Humane Society and their Project Wildlife.
You know, wherever you live,I'm sure there's some kind of organization,
I mean a big thing, youknow, you you st to live out
there now, Pine there was thatsomething lions, lions, tires and bears

(01:03:52):
or something, you know what.I took my wife there when we first
started dating. Yeah, and there'sthere's a sanctuary for yes, those animals
that obviously cannot and like you said, lions, tigers, bears. I
forget the woman's name, but shedoes a great job. So in these
places, for the most part,they work on donations. They they're nonprofits.
I mean, yeah, you know, say in order to do that,

(01:04:13):
well, they have to be kindof like a nonprofit. Sure doing
their own thing. Now, thosethat have YouTube channels with a couple of
million subscribers, that helps big time. But they do operate on on donations
and to depend on people to helpthem do such wonderful things because they dedicate
their whole life to this. Thisis what they do. It's not a
side gin. It's not cheap,not at all. Feeding a lion or
a tiger, yeah, is notcheap. And the food and the vet

(01:04:36):
bills and everything else that goes alongwith it. So yeah, exactly.
But yeah, so lots of funstuff, lots of fun topics. Things
will bit quiet at the nursery rightnow. Oh, the rain's gonna slow
things down. Yeah, it's almostyou know, being here in southern California,
we kind of forget whether we don'treally think of it that much where

(01:05:00):
you know, if I was anursery back east, I'd be closed during
this time of year, or I'dbe operating a snowplow or something, right
like, So we look at thisnext week and we're like, oh wow,
like one of those things like doyou even open, you know kind
of a thing. It's going tobe so hit and missed with the weather
and the rain. But but Imean, we will be open and there

(01:05:21):
is still stuff to plant. Thisis my favorite time to plant because you
don't have to water it in thestress of planting on plants is already prepped.
The soil is very easy to digin, so you know, I
mean, I do recommend if youare a gardener and you wanted to plant

(01:05:44):
something, even if you have likea two hour time window to get out
there, go plant some stuff,get it in the ground, get it
established, because then I have afor how much work I do with landscapes.
I don't have a very great irrigationsystem in your own house. I

(01:06:05):
kind of like designed it where thingscan just survive on their own. And
if I plant them during this timeof year, they'll get enough rain and
get established enough that by the summerthey're good on their own and they'll survive.
And I do have an irrigation system, so I'll I'll get them some
water, but at the end ofthe day, like they're surviving on it.

(01:06:25):
But it's I would imagine it's turnedoff now. Oh yeah, I
mean there's no there's no months,there's no reason, no, which is
nice. No, not even formy lawn, like, no reason at
all. So a lot, alot of good defeedback here. Jana says
that her sister worked for California Fishand Game and is fostered to baby mountain
lions. So so it runs thegambit from a sparrow a sparrow, I

(01:06:45):
should say to to a mountain lionto a bear. And then Veronica mentions
also that Lions, Tigers and Bearsis a great organization and they're located here
at the back country East County ofSan Diego. Yeah exactly. So have
you been there? I have.Yeah, it's a great plant. I
love it. Yeah, yeah,it's nice, wonderful. I mean you
would never know, you would neverknow, you never know what you here,
Yeah, unless you knew about it, yeah, exactly, tucked away.

(01:07:08):
Yeah, so kind of kind offun. There was a there was
a woman, I mean, maybestill is a woman. I'm not Joan
Embry. Oh yeah, Joe Ember. Because she had a place out on
lakeside right where she had animals.She was for forty some odd years the
spokesperson for the San Diego Zoo,and she was on the tonight's shore with
Johnny Carson many, many, manytimes. Yeah, I think she does

(01:07:29):
have a place out in the lakesideof the East County. Yeah, and
did a lot for animals back inthe day. Yeah, exactly. Okay,
what we're gonna do now is takea break. We have one more
segment coming up, our short segment, but again still time for your questions,
comments, whatever's on your mind.We Tiger and I love seeing the
comments about the animals and your experiencewith wild life and so on and so
forth and these sanctuaries. So again, do stay with us again, one

(01:07:50):
more segment coming up for us hereon Facebook Live and biz Talk Radio.
So do stay with us. I'mBrian Main and Tiger Pella, Fox John's
and Hawaii. We are Guard America. Back from the break. This is
it final segment, and so weenjoy some little downtime today, a downtime
from the rain. Rest bit herein San Diego. I know a lot
of people in California still raining,but we have a day off today.

(01:08:11):
Then the rain begins tomorrow. Forthe next five days. Another thing that
I thought people a lot of timewill like to do during the rains,
but you have to be careful iswildflower seeds. So a lot of people
think, oh, it's going torain, I'm gonna throw out a bunch
of wildflower seeds. Great idea anda light rain, wonderful, no problems.

(01:08:32):
In a heavy rain, all thatwildflower seed is gonna get washed away
down somewhere because it's not established.Yeah, because it's not in the ground.
I mean, if you rake thesoil heavily, drop the seed down
and then drop soil on top.In a moderate rain, that'll be okay.
But in a heavy rain, itjust washes things away. So don't

(01:08:55):
spread wildflower seeds if you're gonna geta heavy rain. If you are going
to get a lighter, moderate rain, you can do it then, because
it is good to get him inthis time of year when it is going
to be raining for the next coupleof months here off and on. Yeah
that then, yeah, those wildflowerseeds will become established, they'll start to
grow, and you know, wonderfulthings will happen. But you know,

(01:09:17):
just do it correctly, otherwise they'rejust gonna wash away. How much work
do you have to do in youryard? Is it? Is it just
kind of an autopilot right now.Yeah, it's an autopilot right now.
There's a couple of things, andI'm one plant I want to plant this
weekend. I have some other workto do, not involving planting, but

(01:09:41):
drainage and other things like that becausewe're building the ADU that I'll be working
on. But yeah, no,it's kind of an autopilot right now.
Right. You know, down bythe eighty U two it turned into a
soppy, muddy mess really, soon that side, I'm kind of like
like, and that's gonna slow downthe construction for a while too, right
because the rain, they're not gonnabe able to work no week, not
at all. Yeah, all thisupcoming week they're not probably going to be

(01:10:03):
working, So we'll see. Somebodyhad posted earlier on our Facebook page during
the show obviously that they hope tosee some pictures from John and Hawaii.
Oh yeah, Now, if Iwas on vacation right now, I would
already be sending you pictures. John'sterrible with photos. He doesn't take them.
No, No, it's like wewant, we want to see what's

(01:10:25):
going on. I would I wouldbe giving you updates, small, small
videos. I'd say, Tiger postwhatever you want to ye as you go
along, which I think I'd liketo do, like in Costa Rica.
Yeah, we did this with friendsof mine and stuff. Here's what's going
on. We did this today,you know, just to kind of give
people an idea so they can livevicariously through your vacation. Yeah, definitely.
And you know, we posted alot when John and I were in

(01:10:46):
England. We shared a lot ofwhile we were there and what we were
doing. You had to you encouragethat, oh yeah, John, Yeah,
yeah, he you know. Theone thing that is good about that
though he is a in the momentkind of a guy. Yes, this
is wonderful, Yes, you know, but you know, also I think
that people love to see what we'redoing and where we are right and so
it's always fun to be able toshare. And I'm sure he'll come back

(01:11:09):
with pictures and once he comes back, well we'll pick a few. We'll
share some on our Facebook page aswell. Yeah, let's see here.
Joyce says that she moved an establishedbush from a plot to the ground about
a month before the rain began it'sdoing great. Yeah, I'm sure,
nice timing, Joyce, way togo. It's exactly right. That's what
you want to do. Get itinto the ground now, let it rain,

(01:11:30):
Let it rain, Let it rain. By the summertime and by the
springtime it's established, you're happy andit all is good. It's kind of
funny like being in southern California too, after you know, seventy eight years
of drought going into wet years,because you've forgotten, yeah, what it's
like, and it's kind of new, and this is what happens here.

(01:11:51):
It's we go drought, we gowet, we go drought, we go
wet. San Diego is an ariddesert. Yeah, these trees were never
here on their own. They wereall brought in for the most part.
So the weather's going to fluctuate likethat, and you know that you live
in it. If you live inan area that doesn't get a lot of
rain like we do. We don'tget a lot of rain, you know,

(01:12:14):
because it's always headline news. Whenthe weather's the headline news. Yeah,
that means that it's news because youdon't get rain all that often.
And that's the case here in SanDiego. Yeah, exactly, but it
is. Yeah, wonderful time forplanting plants for sure. All right,
a couple of minutes to go.Anybody have any last minute Yep, they
want to see it. Yes,picks place, send them in joy.
But any last minute questions comments.So we got a couple of minutes to

(01:12:38):
go, and then we'll close thingsout for this weekend. Yeah, you
got to work on your patio thisweekend, you said today, I got
to get out there and get itnow. I know it's rain, but
we have to hose it down.Yeah, just to kind of clean it
up. I'm going to turn thepot over, the plemeria pot, sweep
some things up, and then getit ready for the next wave of rain.
And apparently the dove is back upin the hanging basket preparing for another

(01:12:59):
two way to be laid. Hey, now you're bird feeder your fountain in
the backyard. Yes, you knowin the summer months you have to watch
out for things like algae and thingslike that. Yes, does in the
winter time that doesn't happen. Well, we do have algae right now because
we haven't cleaned it in a while. And then but it's it's a bigger
problem in the sum oh tremendously so. But by putting in hydrogen peroxide,

(01:13:23):
it eliminates probably ninety percent of it. So if I let's say that if
I didn't use it, i'd haveto probably clean it drain it about once
a week. With a peroxide,you can go two or three weeks,
okay, And it's pretty good becausein the summertime we've get direct sunlight in
there. Right this time of theyear, eat in the sun. That's
what the algae bloom, right,and this time of the year the sun's

(01:13:44):
not shining directly, and actually thealgae is is a sign of it's a
good sign. It it's good biology. It just doesn't look good. You
know. That's growth. That's goodbiology for the most part, but you
don't you don't want it. Ittakes away from the esthetics and the way
it looks. Same with a fishtank too. Yeah, algae doesn't mean
things are long or bad. Itjust means that you've got a pH balance

(01:14:10):
problem. And so that's what I'mdoing right now. I don't have a
lot of algae in the aquarium,but we're working on the pH to just
eliminate you know, some of thethe the dark allergy that tends to accumulate.
It's a healthy tank and with that, that's going to do it.
All right, any anything, lastminute, Joy, stay dry, have
fun with this. Yeah, havefun. And you've got you've got a

(01:14:30):
full day of sports with your son. Yeah, we've got baseball across soccer
today, all today, all today. Now is the weather going to affect
any of this? None? Isit indoors? Well, today's ago weather
today. That's right. Yeah,we're good to go next week. Different
story, Dana says Brian, Employees'swife to clean the fountain. Does he
does he pay you? Dana?Does he pay well? You know why?

(01:14:51):
That's employees. This is true.You know why because I was doing
it for a long time. Shedoes a much better job. I'm just
better at it, and so that'swhy she kind of got that job,
because she does a better job thanI do. Hey, have yourself a
great weekend. Be safe when therain begins again, or if it's raining
right now, please be safe,enjoy yourself, and we'll do it again

(01:15:13):
next week here. John is back. So the three of us back in
the saddle next week here on Guardin America for the entire crew, Our
Webmaster Daniel John Begnasco Tiger Palafox.I'm Brian Maine. Enjoy the weekend,
Enjoy next week, and we'll doit again next weekend right here on Guard
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