Late Summer Planting Starts Now - Garden America Podcast & Radio Show [8.2.25] - Garden America - Gardening Podcast & Talk Radio Show

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Well, good morning. Here we are once again. It is
Garden America, back with the garden buddies. I'm Brian Maine,
John BECKNASCO, Tiger Peala Fox broadcasting live this week, as
we were two weeks ago from Mission Hills Nursery, Mission Hills,
San Diego, California. This operation here born back in nineteen ten.
That's for another day, another story. But we're back broadcasting
live and again welcome.

Speaker 2 (00:21):
Do you want to Mike h John?

Speaker 3 (00:24):
I need to use a bike every week.

Speaker 4 (00:25):
It's something different.

Speaker 1 (00:26):
It's been a while since John's done this a couple
of weeks.

Speaker 4 (00:29):
It's something different with you guys every week.

Speaker 1 (00:31):
But we are back, Tiger and Tiger. This is quite
a setup. It should be simple, but we've had it
to work through a lot of situations, problems Wi Fi
and so on and so forth. How are you feeling
about the setup this week?

Speaker 4 (00:44):
Tiger?

Speaker 3 (00:45):
Why are you talking to me while I'm trying to
work here?

Speaker 1 (00:47):
Oh that's true, Han, too many things.

Speaker 3 (00:51):
Everything seems to be running just smoothly right now. I'm
really enjoying it, and I'm.

Speaker 1 (00:55):
Sure John's monitoring Facebook Live.

Speaker 2 (00:58):
Well.

Speaker 1 (00:58):
Most of the questions in the comment and a big
welcome to Bistalk Radio. Thank you for tuning in, or
at least well not only tuning in, but obviously taking
care of us every weekend and putting us on the
air nationally. I want to thank Stephanie and her crew
for being very patient with us, running several reruns over
the past a month or so when needed. So thank
you Stephanie. Thank you to BIS talk Radio.

Speaker 4 (01:18):
What'd you do in your patio this week?

Speaker 1 (01:20):
Oh, I swept, cleaned, I watered, and I trimmed trim.
I didn't even think about that. I knew what I did.
I got to give credit to Dana though. Dana's kind
of taken over out there because she we both like
the birds in the wildlife. Okay, but that's her deal,
buying seed every week, feeding the birds, the finches.

Speaker 4 (01:42):
The dear wildlife was for when you were younger.

Speaker 1 (01:45):
No, we're extending actually, but so anyway, so she takes
care of the fountain now, she cleans the fountain, make
sure that the algie is cleaned out, she fills it up.
And we have another dove that's right above us in
a hanging succulent basket that's going to have some more.

Speaker 4 (02:00):
It's nice to see that the magic never goes out
of your relationship. Because Dana just posted your sounding a
little hot.

Speaker 1 (02:08):
A little hot. Okay, we can bring that down, then,
can't we?

Speaker 3 (02:11):
Yeah, we can.

Speaker 1 (02:12):
Just there. Do you want to do it here?

Speaker 3 (02:14):
Do it here?

Speaker 1 (02:17):
A little hot and distorted?

Speaker 2 (02:19):
Gotcha?

Speaker 1 (02:19):
Okay?

Speaker 2 (02:20):
We you know we were playing with that before the show,
and then you told me right before the show to
adjust it up.

Speaker 3 (02:25):
And see that's.

Speaker 1 (02:26):
Adjust it back down again. Go ahead, bring it down?
Oh okay, a little more? All right, let us know
how that is still working at some of the Kinks,
not to be confused with the music group John in
the Kinks. Now I want to how can I put
I'm just gonna put it, okay. I came across a
bookie in town who is aware of our situation. A bookie,

(02:50):
a bookie, he's aware of our situation as far as
technical problems that we've had taking the show exactly. So
you can eat their bet that the show is going
to go no problem, smooth for the entire hour, or
you can bet that it's gonna go halfway and cut
off halfway, never get on the air at all. I

(03:11):
think there was one more, and there's odds to each
one of those, I'm.

Speaker 2 (03:14):
Sure, And there's a whole population out there that totally
is betting on us, right.

Speaker 3 (03:17):
Absolutely a bet.

Speaker 2 (03:19):
All right, So daveop bets as far as whether John's
phone will be on when the show started. The show starts,
prop bets on what hat Brian will be wearing.

Speaker 1 (03:28):
It's the same one. I love this. This hat came
to it.

Speaker 3 (03:31):
We wear different hats.

Speaker 1 (03:32):
This one gave me as far as my job, Yeah,
that's very good. No, but this I looked at pictures
of us ten years ago in Europe.

Speaker 4 (03:40):
You had the same same.

Speaker 1 (03:41):
Hat Hawaii, same hat. Danna tried to go online to
buy another one of these. I got this in Palm
Springs years ago. Can't find him anymore.

Speaker 3 (03:49):
Well, it says nineteen thirty six Palm spring.

Speaker 1 (03:51):
Isn't that a great hat? I love this hat.

Speaker 3 (03:54):
I don't think they they're making another nineteen.

Speaker 1 (03:56):
Th No, but the same company. Anyway, we're getting off track, John,
you got the quote of the week? Anything else target
you want to you want to mention before we blast
off the sell, Let's go to the quote of the
Okay quote of the week.

Speaker 4 (04:05):
John, Okay, Brian, the quote August brings Katie Did's Elderberry's
BlackBerry Pie and golden Rod. August is just another thirty
one days of concentrated summer, but it certainly gets one
in condition to appreciate fall when it arrives. Good old
August will take it.

Speaker 2 (04:26):
Some of us will like it.

Speaker 1 (04:29):
Okay, I'm glad you mentioned that, some of us, because
I want to ask you guys, what you think about this.

Speaker 4 (04:33):
That was, by the way, hell Borland about the quote
of the week or August.

Speaker 1 (04:37):
Well August, okay, this is August second. Obviously we've had
a pretty mild summer so far.

Speaker 3 (04:43):
Don't Jason, why that's like talking to the picture during
the no hitter, Man.

Speaker 1 (04:48):
I don't believe that.

Speaker 2 (04:48):
Why did you just jingze that?

Speaker 1 (04:50):
I don't believe in that.

Speaker 2 (04:51):
It's been an amazing summer.

Speaker 4 (04:52):
Why do we Why do we keep getting the little
ringing here on?

Speaker 1 (04:56):
Because Dan is talking about the audio, she says, we
can bring the audio down a little bit more. I'm
trying to adjust it and once once we're in that
sweet spot, we will know. Anyway, here's my here's my
I don't believe in the voodoo stuff and the bad
luck at all. I don't get We've had a pretty
mile summer so far. However, I bet August September in
October is going to make up for that with a heat.

Speaker 3 (05:16):
You think so well otherwise doing it?

Speaker 4 (05:18):
I think October is always our hottest smoke.

Speaker 1 (05:20):
Yeah, but but usually even in July, we've we've got
some pretty hot days. Did have a mile July, it's
been it's been manageable.

Speaker 4 (05:27):
Yeah, you know what I mean. Last week, We're going
to take a break pretty soon, right.

Speaker 1 (05:30):
In five minutes, so that right there, that's how long
we have in this segment. Wow.

Speaker 4 (05:34):
Well, then I want to tell you what I did
last week.

Speaker 1 (05:36):
Oh, John's aware the clock now, he knows how much
time segments I have.

Speaker 4 (05:44):
I planted three avocado trees.

Speaker 1 (05:47):
You know you live in an area that used to
be an avocado farm.

Speaker 4 (05:51):
Well, my property used to be a grove, right, avocado grove.

Speaker 1 (05:54):
It was a groovy grove, is from what I recall, Well.

Speaker 4 (05:57):
Lost its groovy now.

Speaker 1 (05:58):
John's groovy grove of acados.

Speaker 4 (06:00):
And uh, And I planted three and I planted some
unusual varieties, not the.

Speaker 1 (06:08):
Basic hoss, not thete.

Speaker 4 (06:11):
Right, no, neither neither has nor for that's what I'm saying, yeah,
not either one of the right. I planted Marcus pumpkin,
which I planted just for curiosity because I've never seen one,
and the avocados get up to three pounds. What, yeah,

(06:31):
have you ever seen a Marcus pumpkin avocado?

Speaker 2 (06:34):
Never?

Speaker 1 (06:34):
I went to high school with a Marcus pumpkin, but
never an avocado.

Speaker 4 (06:38):
I think that was your nickname for him, wasn't it?

Speaker 1 (06:41):
Pumpkin?

Speaker 4 (06:43):
And I planted Russell, which alvados are named after people.
You know what this is getting a little weird, Marcus
and Russell.

Speaker 1 (06:53):
Go ahead.

Speaker 4 (06:55):
I planted a Russell, which has kind of a It
has a really elongated neck, looks like a a Don
Galaghi except except even bigger.

Speaker 2 (07:09):
But would I think some people would those gords, those
long bards. That's like a good description. I think most
people know what that is versus a done.

Speaker 4 (07:21):
I just saw that Louis Nursery had Don Galaghli and
there they're listing, but they said check for availability and
they didn't have one. And then the other I planted
was Queen. And you might know Queen right as in
the band as in the band, but not not the
same thing.

Speaker 2 (07:42):
The because Freddy mercury avocata was already taken. There is
a freddy mercury rose.

Speaker 4 (07:47):
Did you know that? Yeah, it's a sport of Tina Turner. True,
you look at me like I'm joking.

Speaker 2 (07:56):
But you never know.

Speaker 1 (07:57):
We never love how you connected? That's all, go ahead.

Speaker 4 (08:01):
And Queen came out in the early nineteen hundreds, like
it was introduced into the US ninety. I think it's
from Guatemala.

Speaker 1 (08:11):
What year, because this place has been here since nineteen ten.

Speaker 4 (08:14):
Well this was nineteen fourteen, oh right, right the time, Yeah,
same time as the nursery, even though it was an
older one, but.

Speaker 2 (08:22):
Introduced in the US.

Speaker 4 (08:23):
And I planted Queen because it is not as big
as the others, but it can get to be close
to two pounds and is similar in flavor to a haas.
So those are the three I planted. Now I have
three more to plant. Oh yeah, and it'll be done perfect.

Speaker 1 (08:41):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (08:42):
And I put them on the hill behind the house,
which required a lot of work, did it, Yeah, because
it's pretty steep. And when you're seventy five and you
go to dig a hole.

Speaker 1 (08:56):
Seventy five degrees outside.

Speaker 4 (08:58):
No no, no, no, oh, house gardener, I have a
funny hole digging story this week too. You know, I
haven't heard a funny hole digging story in years.

Speaker 2 (09:11):
So your holes for your avocados on a slope, obviously
you got to dig into the hillside. Whenever you're planting
on a slope, you have to dig into the hillside,
cut yourself out a nice little shelf to be able
to plant whatever it is, right right? Okay, So I
went to a customer's house this week up in Santa Luis.

(09:32):
No is that the area used to live in minute
to lose, to lose, to lose. Okay, when we get back, Okay,
it's gonna take me a little bit longer because it's
a pretty interesting story.

Speaker 3 (09:43):
John's going to be shocked.

Speaker 1 (09:45):
What about what about when you're you're planting on the
hill as far as getting it level too.

Speaker 2 (09:49):
Well, So you got to cut into the hillside to
create a shelf. So when you plant the plant, the
plant just doesn't either fall over and it retains moisture
water when you're watering in it, because otherwise they'll.

Speaker 1 (10:00):
Let's it'll train away, it'll train away. Okay, So we're
gonna take a break. We're gonna during the break, we're
going to check a few technical aspects audio, video, so
on and so forth. But a quick break, A quicker
break for Facebook Live, a longer break for Bistalk Radio.
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on Facebook Live, do stay with us. It's Garden America
from Mission Hills Nursery here in San Diego. I'm Brian Main,

(10:22):
John Magnascar, Tiger Pellafox back after these messages. As we
mentioned from all right, we are back after that break,
adjusting a few things. Do let us know how things
sound now. Before the break here on Garden America, we
were talking about planning on slopes, and Tiger's going to
give us some insight on exactly what John's been doing,
what John should have done, what John may do, and
overall how you do plan on the slope.

Speaker 4 (10:42):
I'm prepared to be shocked, Tiger.

Speaker 2 (10:43):
Yeah, you will be blown away by this, because what
were the size avocados that you planted on your slope?
Five gallon, one gallon? Fifteens?

Speaker 4 (10:52):
Yes, not a fifteen. I planted a five gallon, a
two gallon, and a For some reason, I put one
in a long citrus pot.

Speaker 2 (11:04):
Why I have no because Allodo's love deep tap roots
like like.

Speaker 4 (11:09):
It's just the opposite of what it needed. I wasn't
thinking at that time.

Speaker 2 (11:14):
So on John's slope, John is on a freshly cut pad,
and on that slope that that that hill is mostly
made up of like DG that was pushed over the
side and grated, you know you.

Speaker 4 (11:26):
I was surprised at how easy it was to dig
a hole, okay, And I think it's because your guys
took that burn, pushed it, pushed it down the hill.

Speaker 3 (11:34):
And that's what I was kind of getting at.

Speaker 2 (11:35):
You probably dug down a ways, which was easy, but
then it became kind of right right, so after you
get maybe like a foot or two, it becomes hard.
So I went to a customer's house in deLuce, which
is up near Murietta Temecula area, up in the hills.
I used to live there exactly, and very hard packed
soil up there, lots of rock, lots of DG.

Speaker 3 (11:58):
And it was a twenty four inch box.

Speaker 4 (12:02):
On a hill.

Speaker 2 (12:03):
I get off the exit for this customer, so I've
already driven for forty five minutes and I'm exiting for
you him like.

Speaker 1 (12:10):
There's no turning back.

Speaker 2 (12:11):
I forgot my jackhammer, Like I have a like a
thirty pound jackhammer. Tell me she used a lot of
my house and I use it almost every job I do.

Speaker 4 (12:22):
And I'm like, you kind of come and borrowed mine, Okay.

Speaker 1 (12:26):
So I'm like, oh no, I'm like, oh no, so
this is as you're pulling off.

Speaker 2 (12:30):
Yes, So I'm just like, you know what, I've got
a shovel and a pick in the back of my truck,
you know, and some other tools. But you know, we'll
see what happens. So I show up.

Speaker 1 (12:40):
He did have the song working on a chain gang,
which would help.

Speaker 2 (12:44):
The show up, and so I meet the customer. He
shows me where he wants this avocado tree. There hasn't
been anything planted in the area that I'm going to
plant this tree ever, twenty years untouched, so oil nothing, okay.
So I'm like, oh, even worse right, just dreading it.

(13:06):
I don't have my jaghammer. And the lucky thing about
it but not having my jaghammer, is that it was
also I planted very far from any power source, so
I probably wouldn't have been able to use my jagcamer anyways,
because I would yeah, exactly, okay, So I start digging
it and digging in, and you know, the funniest thing happens.

(13:32):
I hit rocks immediately, don't even get two inches under
the soil. My shovel hits a rock and so but
it's almost like dust sand with rocks in it. So
I scoop out a rock, I get to the next area,
scoop out of rock, and the soil is just falling away.

Speaker 3 (13:53):
I don't even have to dig. All I have to
do is.

Speaker 2 (13:55):
Move rocks, and the hole just appear kind of a thing.
It was almost like this ca so yes, it's like
you're at the beach and you know that the hole
just keeps getting bigger because you just right.

Speaker 3 (14:10):
It was the easiest dig I've ever done.

Speaker 4 (14:14):
For twenty four inch twenty four inch box.

Speaker 2 (14:17):
Oh my gosh, I just pulled out rocks, rocks after rocks.
But these were big rocks, like one to two foot rocks.
I really prime out. But it was the most shocking.

Speaker 1 (14:27):
Did you have help anybody with you? No? I was
all alone, and the owner of the house had no
idea what's going on. He's in the house and you're
just out there.

Speaker 3 (14:33):
Exactly, he thought. He thought, because because you know, when you.

Speaker 2 (14:36):
Sometimes see a property that has rocks, you can see
that giant boulder right, and I was planting right next
to it. So that boulder, it's like an iceberg. You
could have that boulder could have been right where I
was digging, and it was an avocado. You said, no,
this was a palaverdic. Oh, yeah, that's a good spot
for that. I lucked out.

Speaker 3 (14:54):
I lucked out so much.

Speaker 4 (14:56):
Yes, you know, on avocados, do you remember before you
were born, tiger, do you remember anything? There was avocado
planting craze here in Fallbrook. Yeah, here, not in southern California,
Brook in Fallbrook, and they used to say, if you
can dig a hole, the avocado will grow there. So

(15:20):
that that was the only object to you know, because
they planted them on hillsides everywhere. You know, if you
drive up Highway fifteen, there's just a yeah. And they
just said, you know, if you can get the hole
and get the plant avocado in it, it's going to grow.

Speaker 1 (15:34):
I'm still wrapping my head around a two pound avocado,
three pound, three pound even worse or even better. Really, well,
that would be the that would be the avocado you'd
make guacamulli during Super Bowl for every.

Speaker 4 (15:47):
Except I'm not sure about the flavor because and is
it runny? Well, see, some of those big avocados.

Speaker 2 (15:54):
Are like that.

Speaker 4 (15:55):
That's the type they like, right Florida. They they think
that California avocados are too oily.

Speaker 3 (16:04):
Oh, let me show you guys something I brought these.

Speaker 2 (16:10):
Since we were since we were speaking about large avocados,
I brought you, guys some limes from my lime tree.

Speaker 3 (16:16):
But that's a good sized lime.

Speaker 4 (16:17):
Right, yeah, absolutely, Well what kind of lime though?

Speaker 3 (16:19):
This is bears so almost the lime lemon. Yeah, that's
from your backyard, from my backyard exactly.

Speaker 4 (16:28):
All right?

Speaker 1 (16:28):
How did you bring four or five? Took a couple.

Speaker 4 (16:32):
Two?

Speaker 1 (16:33):
Right?

Speaker 2 (16:33):
Make your you can make you walk them?

Speaker 3 (16:34):
Only with those.

Speaker 4 (16:35):
I can't touch them. You don't like limes, I can't
touch them. Literally.

Speaker 3 (16:41):
Why you're allergic to limeskin?

Speaker 4 (16:43):
Yeah, you're not. Photo photo fido dermatitis photo fido dermatitis.

Speaker 3 (16:52):
Is it only limes or citrus?

Speaker 4 (16:55):
It's mainly limes. Uh No, citrus doesn't bother me at all,
but mainly limes. What is it in the line that
affects the molecules.

Speaker 1 (17:05):
It's always the molecules, isn't it always.

Speaker 4 (17:09):
I think I told the story on air about how
that happened. You don't remember, Brian, You've got a great memory.

Speaker 2 (17:17):
I was out.

Speaker 4 (17:18):
I was living in Bonzil at the time, and we
had lime trees and I went out and cut the limes.
I was working outside all day and I came in
the house and my whole chest, stomach, arms, legs were itching,
and I started to break out, and I thought, you know,

(17:42):
I thought it was poison oak. No, I thought it
was poison oak because we had poison oak on the property.
But I'm not.

Speaker 1 (17:50):
I'm not. I'm done.

Speaker 4 (17:51):
I'm not allergic to poison ivy or I thought poison oak.
But you know, obviously it was different. And after two
or three days I went to the doctor.

Speaker 1 (18:02):
Yeah wait, wait, wait, the two or three days, that's
what they recommend.

Speaker 4 (18:06):
Going Well, it wasn't clearing up, you know, and I
had gone back out and it was pruning my limes.
So I went to the doctor and uh, he said, well,
it looks like you got poison oak. And I said,
you know, I really don't think I'm allergic to poison
oak and he says, yeah, it looks like so I said, no,
I'm pretty sure there was no poison oak where I

(18:27):
was working. And he said he said, were you working
on lime trees? And I said yeah, and he said
he said out in the sun, and I go yeah,
with no shirt on. He goes, well, he said, you're
allergic to limes and it's activated by sunlight.

Speaker 2 (18:45):
So photo.

Speaker 1 (18:48):
Lime trees at night. We gotta take a break. It
might be okay, you gotta take a break here, all right,
this is this is great John's lime story. All right,
going to take a break. Are for Bistalk Radio. A
Facebook line would come back even quicker. Do stay with us.
Brian Main, John Magnesco, Tiger Pelafox here Mission Hills Nursery,
San Diego. This is okay. We are back from that break.
We trust you had a good break. We are outside.

(19:09):
It is still overcast, but a very nice day here
in San Diego for Mission Hills Nursery. Good to get
out and become well adjusted. So we heard about the
avocado digging story from Tiger John with his photo Fido Dermot.

Speaker 4 (19:24):
The other thing I did find out I was allergic
to was some tropical fruits. And the way I found
that out was we were at the Hotel Dell for
a weekend and went and laid on the beach and
I did not bring any sunscreen, so I bought a
mango sunscreen, put it all all over my body, laid

(19:47):
out in the sun. Found out also allergic to mangoes.

Speaker 2 (19:50):
I bet you there's something similar in mango and limes
or whatever.

Speaker 1 (19:53):
It sounds like a Seinfeld episode. I lathered myself with
mango from top to bottom all over.

Speaker 4 (20:01):
Hey, do you remember prior to the well, you should remember.
It was just a few minutes ago. But you know,
it doesn't hurt to check. But we were looking at
the picture of the sentimental rows that our buddies Kevin
and Terry sent us from court Alaine.

Speaker 1 (20:18):
Idoha, Yeah, way to go Kevin and Terry. Very nice picture.

Speaker 4 (20:22):
But Kevin said that let me see if I got
it here. He said that he brought it to Cordelaine
from Poway, and he had previously brought it to Poway
from Motion.

Speaker 1 (20:35):
Being it's even more impressive.

Speaker 2 (20:36):
Yeah, and it loves Cordlaine. That's awesome.

Speaker 1 (20:41):
Wow, But you know what you know, coming from Motion
Beach to Poway to Cordelaine. Now you're in snow country
and you have to readjust your your horticultural thinking, right.

Speaker 4 (20:52):
I mean it says a lot about the heartiness.

Speaker 1 (20:57):
But I mean other plants in general, other plants in
general that you're just so used to growing and then
you move someplace to a cold climate kind of expect
everything to grow and you're like, well, what happened here?
Well maybe minus forty happened?

Speaker 3 (21:08):
Yeah, yeah, exactly.

Speaker 2 (21:10):
Maybe maybe the uh you know, windschill that just breaks
off branches happen.

Speaker 1 (21:15):
Right, exactly are the icicles that are hanging.

Speaker 4 (21:20):
Kevin has a question for you, Tiger, because sure are
local radish expert?

Speaker 3 (21:25):
Oh? Yes, definitely.

Speaker 4 (21:27):
He said that he was watching the Food Channel and
he wants enough you know anything about watermelon radishes?

Speaker 3 (21:35):
Watermelon radish.

Speaker 4 (21:37):
I've never heard that term. I know there's lots of.

Speaker 2 (21:39):
Radishes, wide variety.

Speaker 3 (21:41):
Watermelon.

Speaker 2 (21:42):
Yeah, I'm not sure.

Speaker 4 (21:45):
Yeah, if only we had somewhere you could look at us.

Speaker 2 (21:50):
But you know, I mean there's so many varieties of radish. Yeah,
I don't know what.

Speaker 4 (21:56):
There's even black radishes. I think it's something they use
in Hungarian cooking, and.

Speaker 1 (22:03):
You know, what I mean, it's it's it's black. I
mean you're obviously from the deep red to the black.
You're talking right, It's the whole radish is black.

Speaker 2 (22:11):
Completely black. It's just the one with the pink with
the green skin, the watermelon watermelon one.

Speaker 4 (22:16):
Oh, what variety because watermelon is not a variety I've
ever seen salt.

Speaker 3 (22:21):
Yeah, I mean Burbie sells it as watermelon.

Speaker 2 (22:24):
They do.

Speaker 3 (22:24):
Yeah. Is it a new one then, I don't think so,
but because I've seen it before. It's the it's got
the white skin with it.

Speaker 4 (22:30):
Like sparklor or something like that, or the whole thing
is white.

Speaker 2 (22:33):
The whole thing is white. They that's a normal radish.
I can't remember the name on it.

Speaker 4 (22:37):
But well there's white icicle, but usually radishes are white inside.

Speaker 3 (22:43):
Yeah, this one is pink.

Speaker 4 (22:45):
So this one is white outside and pink inside.

Speaker 3 (22:47):
Correct.

Speaker 2 (22:48):
So yeah, that's that's the watermelon radish. And Renees has
one also, so yeah, and they call it watermelon.

Speaker 1 (22:55):
You know, since I've only tasted probably one radish my
whole life, or one one variety is what I should say.
I'm wondering if these have different taste.

Speaker 2 (23:03):
Don't you eat the French breakfast radish. That's the elongated
pink one.

Speaker 1 (23:08):
No, I have not tried the elongated pink.

Speaker 4 (23:11):
Not even when we were in France.

Speaker 1 (23:13):
Well, I maybe I don't remember, but I just I
just know the basic radish. So I'm guessing I'm wondering
what these taste like.

Speaker 2 (23:20):
Yeah, you know, maybe Kevin can say, what why they
use that one on the cookie, because I mean a
lot of times they'll use it just because it looks cool.

Speaker 1 (23:27):
Yeah, or maybe it does give a different flavor.

Speaker 2 (23:29):
Yeah, but it could give a different flavor.

Speaker 4 (23:31):
Do you know the best way to eat radishes? Absolutely,
here we go.

Speaker 1 (23:34):
We're gon, we're gonna.

Speaker 4 (23:35):
We've heard this.

Speaker 1 (23:36):
Yeah, hold on, we've got the extra virgin olive oil, right.

Speaker 4 (23:40):
Yeah, and you you cut the radishes and oh you
know what, I think we're getting seats for watermelon radish
even as we speak.

Speaker 3 (23:50):
Oh we got French breakfast. French breakfast, not waterme.

Speaker 4 (23:53):
Okay, there you go, There you go, Brian.

Speaker 1 (23:55):
That's what you were talking about, French breakfast radishes. And
they are elongated, they are and pink, and they're mild.

Speaker 4 (24:04):
No, they're not mild. Actually they're a little a little spicier.

Speaker 1 (24:08):
No, that was that that was in reference to al cigarette.

Speaker 4 (24:11):
But anyway, you slice the radishes thin into a bowl
and pour a lot of poor salt and extra virginal
oil over them.

Speaker 3 (24:22):
Him and pink salts are just any salt.

Speaker 4 (24:25):
You could probably use any salt and then you you,
you know, just mix it up and then eat them
with a fork. Yeah, fantastic, and you know what, kids
like that too.

Speaker 1 (24:37):
Now, well, these will these grow in two weeks as well?

Speaker 4 (24:39):
Yeah, radishes, you know, radishes, they don't miss around me.

Speaker 1 (24:45):
I'm gonna grow.

Speaker 4 (24:46):
You could even use radishes to mark the rows of
slow germinating plants, for instance.

Speaker 1 (24:55):
So you know where they are growing. Cycle.

Speaker 4 (24:57):
If you plant a row of carrots, it takes seems
like forever before they germany, right, But if every two
every foot or so you put in one radish seed,
that they'll come up right away within a few days.
So you'll know where that row of carrots is until
the carrots come up, look at you guse otherwise you

(25:17):
don't know where to step.

Speaker 2 (25:19):
And okay, you know, christ little or you can put
a little steak in there that says you could you.

Speaker 4 (25:27):
Could, Yeah, but still when you go in there, food
tiger when you go to pole weeds or something like that. Hey,
since we're talking about the vegetable garden, you guys, are
you ready for August eighth?

Speaker 2 (25:41):
Yes? What about you?

Speaker 1 (25:43):
August eighth?

Speaker 4 (25:44):
Yeah, August days eight is National Sneak some Zucchini onto
your neighbor's porch Day.

Speaker 1 (25:51):
You know what? I almost posted that on my Facebook page. Really, yes,
and that's in the newsletter. And it's a real day.
It's a real day. Give us a little background.

Speaker 2 (26:00):
Well, John's gonna give us a lot of background, because
how many zucchinis did you play it?

Speaker 4 (26:03):
I only planted three.

Speaker 2 (26:04):
Oh okay, I thought you planned more for some reason.
But I was gonna say I was going to be
sneaking zucchinis onto everyone.

Speaker 4 (26:09):
Three groups. But you know, I planted Costada Romanesco.

Speaker 1 (26:13):
That was an Italian actor back in the forties, and.

Speaker 4 (26:17):
It was I planned it for several reasons. One is
they're not as prolific as regular zucchini. And you know, really,
who needs that many zucchinini? So I planted three hills.
They're called hills, but they're not actually on a hill.
It's just like a grouping three.

Speaker 1 (26:36):
Uh.

Speaker 4 (26:37):
And there's probably three plants in each, so nine twelve
plants something like that. But because I planted so late,
mine are just starting to develop. And I think because
Costada romanesco is a lot meteor and not as watery
as regular zucchini, I don't think they grow as fast.

(27:00):
And you know, because with regular zucchini, you see it
one day and the next day it's too big to pick.
You got literally have to go out there in the night,
right just to get it at the right size.

Speaker 2 (27:13):
Yeah, you have to be just watching next to it.

Speaker 1 (27:16):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (27:17):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (27:18):
So But also, and we talked about this, Brian, we
saw them selling flowers in Italy at the vegetable stand right,
this is coast outa romanesquo flowers, and I wish I
would have taken a picture, but I went out in
my garden probably about four or five days ago, and

(27:38):
they were the prettiest flowers, like a whole bouquet of them.

Speaker 3 (27:43):
Just orangish yellowish flowers just like.

Speaker 4 (27:45):
Right right, but big, really big ones. That's why they're
sold is because you know, they're used for uh dipping
dipping them in egg batter, in bread crumbs and frying them, you.

Speaker 2 (27:58):
Know, ricotta cheese, or something like that. They usually will
stuff them with too.

Speaker 4 (28:03):
And I've never seen that, so I don't know. But
then I have had them one time, just battered and fried, yea,
and they were pretty good.

Speaker 1 (28:12):
Anything better?

Speaker 3 (28:14):
I was gonna say.

Speaker 2 (28:15):
I've said this story before where I was at a
fundraiser function and they battered and fried fig leaves and
then had like a cheese and like a balsamic on
top of it. Spectacular fig leaf like I would never
think to like just eat a big leaf.

Speaker 3 (28:32):
They're kind of like hard in, like leathery, a little no.

Speaker 1 (28:35):
There's there's people and this goes back to the dawn
of time when they're thinking, I wonder what that would
taste like. Yeah, I'm gonna taste it and see if
I die. If I don't die, how can I make
the taste better?

Speaker 3 (28:46):
How can I batter and fry it?

Speaker 4 (28:48):
What?

Speaker 3 (28:48):
What kind of batter do I put on this?

Speaker 2 (28:50):
And then in animal fat oil?

Speaker 1 (28:53):
Do you like a scargo?

Speaker 4 (28:55):
I've had them before and I could not eat them
today because they're usually in a garlic sauce yeh, and
I can't eat garlic anymore.

Speaker 2 (29:03):
But I did like them.

Speaker 1 (29:05):
I loved it, and obviously I loved it because of
the garlic sauce and the butter and everything else. You
wouldn't know what you were eating.

Speaker 3 (29:12):
No, Like, that's the thing is.

Speaker 2 (29:14):
You know, people get all funky about eating snails, but
you can't tell what you can't.

Speaker 1 (29:21):
Tell, but I can't tell you. We've got a break
coming up, and if you're tuned in on Bistalk Radio,
we have one more segment coming up before the top
of the hour. Then we come back at six minutes
after Facebook Live. We keep on rolling. Thank you for
tuning in. We're going to take a break. This is
Garden America from Mission Hills Nursery. Okay, hey, we are back.
How about that surprise, surprise final segment of our one

(29:43):
on biss Talk Radio Facebook Live. You know the you
know the story, you know how things are here. We
just keep on rolling right along Mission Hills Nursery. We're
talking about next week a show from John's study, John's library,
John's home, studio.

Speaker 4 (29:58):
Homes or maybe a outside yeah, or maybe.

Speaker 2 (30:01):
Outside because it's been so nice, Like we were talking
about this weather. I mean I drove up to Fallbrook
yesterday to have a meeting with my crew and this
was the weather. In Fallbrook yesterday morning here just cool, Yeah,
a little drizzly, just so nice.

Speaker 4 (30:21):
It's about a week of hot weather coming up though,
like high and by hot, I just mean high eighties,
maybe a couple my eighties is okay.

Speaker 3 (30:31):
But do you think it'll start in the morning, because.

Speaker 2 (30:33):
That's always the not usually in the morning. I was
gonna say, when it's cool in the morning and then
it gets hot, that's not a bad thing. It's when
you wake up in the morning and you walk outside
and it's eighty five degrees already. That's the difficult part.

Speaker 1 (30:47):
Speaking of earthquakes and tsunamis. So remember a couple of
weeks ago, I told you that Alexa gives notification.

Speaker 3 (30:55):
Yeah, she must have been okay.

Speaker 1 (30:57):
So she'll say there's a high surf advisory for Scripts
right inch. Well, Script's ranch where I live is nowhere
near the beach. It's probably thirty forty miles from the beach.
So when that earthquake happened in what Japan or someplace? No, Russia, sorry, Russia,
Eastern part of Russia. So there was a tsunami that developed, obviously,
so we.

Speaker 4 (31:16):
Got one of the largest earthquakes every course. Yeah, eight
point eight.

Speaker 1 (31:21):
Yeah, except the one in Alaska I think was in
sixty four was a little stronger. But nevertheless, we were
getting tsunami warnings and scripts.

Speaker 3 (31:28):
Ranch.

Speaker 2 (31:29):
Yes, everybody, I you know I you didn't run to
the hills.

Speaker 1 (31:35):
No, we didn't run to the hills.

Speaker 4 (31:37):
That would be a really big tsunami if it affected you,
it's that would be bye bye.

Speaker 1 (31:44):
Yeah, that would be bye bye. Yeah. That was quite
an earthquake. And of course the tsunami came down the coast.
What tsunami?

Speaker 2 (31:52):
Bye bye?

Speaker 3 (31:54):
Oh, battery boys bye bye?

Speaker 2 (31:56):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (31:57):
You know what those boy bands that was after that
was after me, after your time. Oh my gosh, I'm
sorry what.

Speaker 2 (32:05):
What But your boy bands were the Beatles, the Monkeys.

Speaker 1 (32:08):
They weren't called boy bands.

Speaker 3 (32:09):
They were boy bands, but.

Speaker 4 (32:10):
They weren't but they weren't called they were boys. I
don't go, hey, Carla. Carla says that she has rose
pots on an area of pavers that's surrounded by rubber,
bark malt and don't judge her for that.

Speaker 1 (32:31):
Wait what okay? Rubber?

Speaker 3 (32:33):
Yeah, you know they use the rubber.

Speaker 2 (32:37):
Things like that.

Speaker 1 (32:38):
Oh, I like you know what, Yeah, it's kind of.

Speaker 4 (32:41):
Soft, right, And she wants to know, Tiger. Can she
sprinkle preene in the cracks between the pavers to help
keep the weeds down?

Speaker 2 (32:51):
No, no, I don't. I mean number one, remember how
preene and those pre mergers work is that they sit
on top of the stoe and they release a gas,
which that's what prevents the seeds from Germany.

Speaker 1 (33:02):
Wouldn't expand it.

Speaker 3 (33:04):
No, I wouldn't expand it.

Speaker 2 (33:05):
But I can't imagine it might work a little.

Speaker 4 (33:07):
But you what you're saying is you'd almost have to
do it before you put the pavers down, right.

Speaker 3 (33:12):
Or like or like? H is it it's the rubber?

Speaker 1 (33:17):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (33:18):
I wondering if.

Speaker 4 (33:19):
Well, this is pavers? So this is pavers.

Speaker 3 (33:22):
She's saying, Is the rubber in the cracks of the pavers?

Speaker 2 (33:26):
Is it?

Speaker 3 (33:26):
Because what's in the cracks if soil?

Speaker 2 (33:28):
No?

Speaker 4 (33:29):
No, the pavers are Yeah, the pavers are surrounded by
the rubber.

Speaker 2 (33:32):
Right, So see that's what I'm saying. Would would that
pre emergent work on a rubber mult.

Speaker 4 (33:38):
You know what it might be better is if you
are I'm trying to think if there's nothing growing in
the ground, right, there would be like a soil sterilon
like ground Clear or something like that, and you could
just put it on with a watering canra.

Speaker 3 (33:54):
Yeah, And a lot of the products will like say.

Speaker 2 (33:57):
Like one one year, right, you know, ground Clear three
sixty five or you know all of that. So if
you look for those products, what it is, like what
John says, is that's not a pre emergent like what
we're talking about. It's an actual chemical that you put
in the soil and right, you know, nothing roots in
there for a year.

Speaker 4 (34:16):
Right, and you don't have to to rake up the
malt or anything. Yeah, just part right over the top.

Speaker 2 (34:23):
Yeah. Yeah, So I mean, you know that's really good
for using on pathways, DG pathways, pavor pathways and all
that where you're not worried about planting in there.

Speaker 4 (34:32):
Right, But you would not want to use this around
or near a tree where roots are growing underneath, because
I think it's going to be detrimental to the raw
plant life.

Speaker 1 (34:42):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (34:42):
I think on the package it tells you how far
away from vegetated plants you need to stay away from.

Speaker 4 (34:49):
So Data wanted to correct you. By the way, Tiger
was in sync. You've got your boy bands mixed uff.

Speaker 3 (34:58):
Thank you Data, because yes, I'm so sorry.

Speaker 2 (35:02):
I correctly.

Speaker 1 (35:07):
So there's Backstreet Boys in Sync and uh New Kids Kits.

Speaker 2 (35:13):
That was like one of the originals. That was the
first kid.

Speaker 4 (35:16):
That was Mark Wahlberg right in there, one of the
he was the youngest. I think he got in at
the end.

Speaker 1 (35:23):
Yeah, Donnie, it was Donnie Wahberg. It was Donnie walt
I know a little too I know a little too
much about this, don't I exactly?

Speaker 4 (35:32):
Hey, I'm tiger. Joyce says she planned yellow squash and
all of a sudden, one plant gave her green zucchini.
She's a little surprised.

Speaker 1 (35:41):
And that's that's the wonder of gardening.

Speaker 4 (35:45):
Well, they can mix seeds up, and it's usually the
there's reputable seed companies and then there's seed companies that
sell their seeds just because they're low price. So you
kind of need to know who you're dealing with. But

(36:05):
even even in a reputable seed company like a Burpie
or Botanical Interest or Rene's, you know, occasionally you can
get a seat that doesn't belong in there. You get
a bad seed.

Speaker 2 (36:17):
Brian, And if you bought and if you bought the
plant from the nursery, okay, any nursery.

Speaker 3 (36:25):
Number one is you know when they're all out.

Speaker 2 (36:27):
There on the table and somebody's out there and sometimes
a tag will fall out and somebody put a tag
back in.

Speaker 4 (36:35):
Oh, you're talking about buying the plant the seat.

Speaker 2 (36:37):
Yeah, you know what I mean, just put the tag
back into a plant and then with without I mean,
you know.

Speaker 3 (36:44):
John John's worked.

Speaker 2 (36:45):
It's some massive growing grounds before, right, And if that
package or that flat of plants is not correctly labeled,
it can go its whole life under a name that
it is not right, because nobody it's hard to know
what the plant.

Speaker 3 (37:00):
Is until it actually flowers or produces anything.

Speaker 4 (37:03):
And I've got to tell you this was, oh maybe
forty years ago, there was one wholesaler that will remain nameless.

Speaker 2 (37:12):
Good.

Speaker 1 (37:12):
We want to break never out of.

Speaker 4 (37:14):
Tomato varieties as long as they had tags.

Speaker 1 (37:18):
Yeah, we're going to take a break for BizTalk Radio
Top of the Hour news is coming up, and if
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Here from Mission Hills Nursery. This is Garden America, Tiger
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We're coming, as they say in the business, right back
after these messages and top of the hour news on

(37:39):
BizTalk Radio. Well, hey, here we are our number two
on biz Talk Radio. The continual show happening of course
all the time, one big loop on Facebook Live. Thank
you for tuning in questions comments. Yeah, you're entertaining, as
with some of your comments in terms of what you
thought you bought, what grew, what you didn't buy, but
it grew anyway. As we continue here on Garden America
from Mission Hills Nursery, thank you as we podcast, we digitize,

(38:02):
we're radio where everything, John, We're on Google, We're on Spotify,
We're on Alexa, Pandora, you name it. What do you
have for us?

Speaker 4 (38:09):
I just found a new way to get dizzy listening
to what you're saying there.

Speaker 1 (38:12):
Yeah, stream of consciousness.

Speaker 4 (38:14):
Hey, but we'll quickly go back to gardening. But Kevin
wanted to point out that the Temptations in the Four
Tops where the greatest boy bands over.

Speaker 1 (38:25):
Yeah, you know, I wonder how they were. I'm trying
to think back in the sixties, how old they would
have been. They were probably in their thirties when they
were a boy band when yeah, in the sixties. Sure, no, absolutely,
they gotta be in their twenties.

Speaker 4 (38:38):
But Diana Ross was in her late teens twenties.

Speaker 1 (38:42):
The Supremes, these people were born in the thirties for
the most part, really, because for the thirties and forties,
so they could have been mid to late twenties. Could
have been. I can find out you google it, because
you know, this is also a music show.

Speaker 4 (38:54):
If they were born in the thirties, how could they
be their mid to late twenties and the sixth I said, I.

Speaker 2 (38:59):
Said, the reportings, he's in there older. I thought they
were younger.

Speaker 1 (39:03):
No, I think they were a little older.

Speaker 4 (39:05):
Anyway, John and Newport Beach wants to know what happens
if you plant the seeds after the used before date?
Oh great, well, and he wants to know if there's
a rule of thumb for germination.

Speaker 1 (39:19):
So what happened? I think. See, we've had seed packs
in our drawers for years, some of us, and they're okay, right.

Speaker 4 (39:27):
Yeah, But it's like if you drink milk the day
after it expires, I mean, you wake up dead.

Speaker 1 (39:32):
Do you ever stay up till midnight to watch the
expiration date? No?

Speaker 2 (39:35):
I don't.

Speaker 4 (39:36):
But anyway, there is a general rule of thumb, and
the rule of thumb is that seeds lose ten percent
germination per year. And what affects that is the variety
of seed. For instance, let us loses almost fifty percent,
like within two or three years, it's no good generally seeds.

(40:00):
You know, you can plant tomatoes. I've planted tomatoes seeds
that were fifteen years old and they still germinated. So
it depends how they were stored. If they're kept dry,
away from air sunlight, they last longer.

Speaker 2 (40:14):
Well like, and also away from air like, they can't
be completely hermetically sealed, right because they do still need
to breathe, right, So it's it's like that happy balance
of like in your in your junk drawer at the
back of it, that's the most ideal spot for storing seeds.

Speaker 1 (40:30):
Yeah. Actually that's where where mine were in the back.

Speaker 4 (40:34):
Well. We've talked about how they've found seeds in Egyptian
tombs right that two thousand years later germinated. So they
were kept pretty dry, right and away from moisture, away from.

Speaker 3 (40:47):
Light, yeah, moisture, yeah, exactly.

Speaker 4 (40:50):
So it does depend. But if you want to use
a general rule of thyme, you can say ten percent
per year. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (40:56):
And so to kind of go with that is if
that you do have of packages of seeds that are
very old and you do want to plant them, what
you do is you just put a few more seeds
in a hole. So normally, you know, when you're planting seeds,
you put like two seeds per hole, put more just
in case one doesn't come up. Well, if they're very

(41:16):
old packages, you might put three or four seeds in
that hole, and then you know when they do come up.
If two or three do, you can split them out
and to buye them and and go from there. But
at least, at least you don't have an empty hole
when you're when you're planting them. So just put a
few more seeds in the hole and you'll be fine. Yeah,
and if you're really lucky, they all come up even
though they're expired, and you just have a lot more planning.

Speaker 1 (41:38):
It was like the sesame seeds that John gave me
a couple of years ago. Nothing happened. You had the
same thing too, You said, I don't know what's going
to happen. They made a grow may you got them
on what you get them.

Speaker 2 (41:47):
On on sesame seed? Remember those seeds you the rose
seeds you ordered came in?

Speaker 1 (41:53):
Yeah? Now what what what was that? Mickey Mouse?

Speaker 2 (42:00):
Does this scam?

Speaker 3 (42:01):
Remember?

Speaker 1 (42:01):
It was a scam.

Speaker 4 (42:02):
I told you that from the beginning.

Speaker 1 (42:04):
You know, you said, go ahead and plant them. I
don't know what's going to happen. Anything could happen. I
don't know what they are. They say they're rose seeds,
but they're probably not. Go ahead and plant them.

Speaker 2 (42:13):
I don't remember.

Speaker 3 (42:14):
Yeah you haven't. I remember.

Speaker 4 (42:16):
It wasn't rose seeds. I gave you to try to
germinate your own.

Speaker 2 (42:19):
No, no, no, this gave a whole scam that we
talked about. It was something that was happening.

Speaker 4 (42:23):
Did somebody send them to me for free years?

Speaker 2 (42:25):
Yes? Yes, this was the whole thing they were sending.
There were these companies not companies, oh I remember from
China though, Yes, yes, sending out and it was a
real thing that people are like, why why did I
get these seeds in the mail? I never ordered them?

Speaker 1 (42:38):
What's that? What's that real cheap website? That temu? It
was kind of something like that. It was something like that,
and and so of course I'm like all excited thinking, well,
something's going to come up. We were like, nothing came up.

Speaker 4 (42:50):
Well have you noticed?

Speaker 1 (42:51):
You were the one that said they're probably just sensing
me seeds. But go ahead and see what happens.

Speaker 2 (42:56):
Have you.

Speaker 4 (42:58):
Tiger's probably noticed this rather than you because it might
come up more on his feeds. But there's a lot
of ads popping up on social media that will show
you throwing down some seeds in these houses. The next
like in a few months are covered with roses. You know,
it's just not true. And there's there's other plants like that.

(43:21):
It's showing pe andy seeds, the huge tree peonies come
from just putting these out. It tells you not to
plant too many because neighbors will come over all the
time to look at.

Speaker 2 (43:31):
And I love it so only only you know it's
so funny. Is so obviously we all deal with invasive plants.
But morning Glory, the regular blue morning. Right, we have
this property that we maintain and the customers like, hey,
can you kill this morning Glory for us? Yeah, no problem.

(43:55):
You know, we grab some very strong herbicide, right ray it.
The next day, come out, it's dead, you know, like
all right, it's good to go. Two weeks later, it's
coming right back again, and so morning glory.

Speaker 3 (44:11):
And I'm like, I don't.

Speaker 2 (44:12):
Know, because the spray that we used was a topical
spray that should go into the root system and kill
it all.

Speaker 3 (44:19):
It just keeps coming back.

Speaker 2 (44:21):
I don't know what we're using.

Speaker 4 (44:23):
Glyphis though, yeah, because Glyphis should do it right. You
have to use it at the brush killer right though.

Speaker 3 (44:30):
Oh, I'm about to.

Speaker 2 (44:33):
It.

Speaker 3 (44:34):
I don't know what to deal with it.

Speaker 2 (44:36):
I think what it is is we spray it because
the other thing is that these products have to absorb
through the foliage. So I spray the foliage and I
think it kills it all back. But I feel like
the root system.

Speaker 1 (44:46):
It's not getting deep. It's not getting to the root.

Speaker 2 (44:49):
Well, it's it's getting to the root of that particular area,
but I don't think it's getting.

Speaker 3 (44:52):
To the root of the whole plant.

Speaker 2 (44:54):
So what happens is by the time it gets deep
into the plant, it's not deep enough, and so then
it comes back. Because glories are so pretty, oh.

Speaker 3 (45:05):
Until they take over a house, like what you're describing.

Speaker 4 (45:08):
Yeah, yeah, I used to think Kat's claw was pretty pretty.

Speaker 1 (45:12):
You had Cat's claw and year old.

Speaker 4 (45:13):
Oh, I told you the only way I could solve
my problem there was to move. Yeah, Cat's class the
most invasive thing I've ever seen.

Speaker 2 (45:22):
There was another question that went along with the seed question,
and it was planting him. But then he also asked
was it zucchini and a rule of thumb of how
many to plant?

Speaker 4 (45:34):
What?

Speaker 2 (45:35):
Oh, I didn't say that.

Speaker 3 (45:36):
There was the second part of his question that I
don't think we answered.

Speaker 4 (45:41):
Well, that what we answered all of John's questions. We
had a comment from Colleen that she bought sung Gold
tomatoes and has peppers grow like that.

Speaker 2 (45:50):
Isl she buy the tomato plants.

Speaker 3 (45:53):
I want to know, Colling, did you buy tomato plants?

Speaker 1 (45:55):
And now you got the actual seed?

Speaker 4 (45:57):
But she said she bought the It sounded like she
bought a plant. But yeah, if if it was a plant,
you should be able to should.

Speaker 3 (46:04):
You should have known that when you were buying.

Speaker 2 (46:06):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (46:07):
I mean all you got to do is take a
picture I d with Google.

Speaker 1 (46:10):
And like yeah, yeah, really.

Speaker 2 (46:14):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (46:14):
Yeah. She says the label was a sticker on the pot,
so she just looked at the label, so it was
just mistagged.

Speaker 2 (46:22):
Carla has a couple of roses that are mislabeled, so frustrating.

Speaker 4 (46:27):
There are so many roses that end up being especially
certain companies. There's one rose company. I won't even mention
them on air, but I would never buy a rose
from them again, because it took years to get the
plants and then they were mis labeled.

Speaker 2 (46:44):
And and if you know it's a tree or shrub,
you know, John buys a lot of plants online, you know,
in their trees, you know, beautiful trees that.

Speaker 4 (46:55):
You're gonna avocados, right, you know, you're not gonna know
if that's.

Speaker 1 (47:02):
The If that's a variety, that's.

Speaker 4 (47:07):
That's how you need to or that's why you need
to buy from reputable sources. And you know there's I
think the avocados that I got a couple came from
members of the Rare Fruit Growers. We're going to take
a break, and they did their own grafting, so I
think they might be right.

Speaker 1 (47:27):
You're suggesting do not buy seeds from fly by Night
Seed company.

Speaker 3 (47:31):
I want to know what a fly by Night seed
company is.

Speaker 1 (47:33):
All Right, we've got to take a break for our
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Mission Hills Nursery, Garden America on your weekend or whenever
you're listening back after Okay, that we didn't pick that
up then, right, we didn't hear John's comment. Dana wants
to know if Cat's Clock can give you cat scratch fever.
I think it can, and that's one reason why it's invasive.

Speaker 4 (47:56):
I think she's just being silly.

Speaker 1 (47:57):
Oh is she?

Speaker 2 (47:58):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (47:58):
Well you know why she used to we'kin a wacky
morning show.

Speaker 3 (48:02):
And welcome back to Garden America.

Speaker 1 (48:04):
Oh yeah, thank you. If you're just joining us, you're like, wait,
what is this? What what's going on? Yeah? This is
Garden America Radio. We do drift off into music now
and then Garden America Radio and Music Tiger.

Speaker 4 (48:14):
You're also our pepper expert, definitely. And Sue wants to
know why her julapeno plant has both regular shaped.

Speaker 2 (48:25):
Peppers, bell pepper.

Speaker 4 (48:28):
No, I think she's talking about regular shaped tilapeno okay,
and round peppers. And she says in summer, mild and
some are hot on the same plant.

Speaker 1 (48:37):
Ah, okay, how about that coming off the same plant, off.

Speaker 3 (48:42):
The same plant.

Speaker 2 (48:43):
Yeah, that's are you sure, Sue? Because sometimes like.

Speaker 4 (48:47):
Well are you pulling tiger's leg?

Speaker 2 (48:50):
Because sometimes, like when we talk about a seed, you know,
a grower will put two seeds in one hole to
make sure that they get you know, growth.

Speaker 4 (48:59):
And buy a plant. You could have to tow in
there and.

Speaker 2 (49:03):
You don't realize that there's two plants in one Oh yeah,
I mean and and you know, I mean round ish
peppers that are hot, could be a hob and arrow.
You know, there's a lot.

Speaker 4 (49:15):
There's a lot of because she said some are mild.

Speaker 2 (49:19):
Well, well, but she might be eating the hall of panio,
which is mild compared to the so so I mean
number one. I mean, you know, you might have two
plants coming out of the same you know, general area
of the middle. If if they're coming off of the
same plant, you know, you have a branch that's producing

(49:40):
a regular hall of pane you and a branch that
is producing a rounded one that sometimes you know, environmentally,
peppers and tomatoes will come out a little bit different
from each other because you know they you know, things
happened during the germination or not, you know, the fruit

(50:00):
growing period. But in general too, you can have hal
of pen yows off the same plant that are not
always the consistent heat, meaning you know, some of the
halopen us when you harvest it could be really hot,
like really hot, and then the same plant can yield
one that's a little bit more mild.

Speaker 3 (50:20):
You know.

Speaker 2 (50:20):
That is the beauty of I think most all peppers.
It all depends on when you harvest it, and you know,
you know, good luck on on you know, the heat
of them.

Speaker 4 (50:32):
Well, Brian, like you say, it's all about the Scoville units.

Speaker 1 (50:35):
I'm into Scoville. Yeah. So what is the hottest pepper
right now? The Carolina? Is it still? Because I know
they keep trying to, you know, increase the heat with
different varieties. Yeah, I think there might be one, I think, yeah,
but that's that's just being silly.

Speaker 3 (50:50):
Yeah, I mean it's unedible.

Speaker 1 (50:52):
Have you seen these pepper eating contests the people on
a panel and they keep they keep increasing, you know,
the pepper each time.

Speaker 4 (50:59):
Steve Got used to do that. I'm pepper tasting. He
can eat a lot of hot I remember at Euro
American Uh there, we had an event there and he
had set up the peppers from mile to hot.

Speaker 1 (51:14):
Yes, you know what. I took Eric to that when
he was little really to one of those yes.

Speaker 4 (51:18):
And one of the employees there said she nothing was
too hot for her. And she started on the peppers.
She started in the middle because you said.

Speaker 3 (51:29):
I'm not even going to right low bell peppers.

Speaker 4 (51:32):
And she kept going and she went to the end,
and I said, I can't believe you did it. I said,
you don't think that's too hot? She goes, no, it's fine,
I'm not exaggerating. Five minutes later, I start vomiting into
a barrel.

Speaker 1 (51:50):
So bad. I think, what is your theory on.

Speaker 4 (51:53):
I mean, if it's hot going down coming up, it
could be hot too.

Speaker 1 (51:57):
So I think that the being able to withstand peppers
and heat like that have to be in your DNA.

Speaker 2 (52:06):
Oh, there's a lot of attribute.

Speaker 1 (52:07):
I think. I think you're just cut out to take
the heat, because I trust me, I couldn't get past
two or three if I'm shotting from the beginning. I
don't like a lot of heat.

Speaker 2 (52:17):
And I really do just think it like you say,
it's in your DNA, because it's all a matter of
you know, your taste, but your ability.

Speaker 1 (52:22):
And your body, your body to accept it.

Speaker 2 (52:24):
Yeah, yeah, exactly, Yeah.

Speaker 1 (52:26):
I you know I would never claim to no, I
know my limits. I know my limits.

Speaker 4 (52:33):
Our resident landscaper here is a question for you. Tiger
John says that he had to remove some Boston ivy
that was covering the wall. He had to repair a gate,
so he was wondering if there's something better to cover
the wall and what you would recommend? It's a six
foot stuccle wall on both sides. Is there something evergreen

(52:54):
and fast growing?

Speaker 3 (52:56):
So so, I mean, we do get this question a lot.

Speaker 4 (52:58):
Yeah, And there's a difference between fast growing and invasive. Ye.

Speaker 2 (53:02):
Yeah, But but I also feel like the biggest thing
is Boston ivy Ficus repens. They attach themselves to the wall, right, Okay,
so they are fast growing, but they are also self
sufficient in that way where you could get morning glory
clock vine, you know what about jasmine, But you have

(53:26):
to give them something, not even a trailist, but like
a structure. Sometimes just putting screws in the wall and
then putting a few wires are enough, you know. So
so you have two different plants that it's hard to
compare them to each other because you know, as we
talked about these other plants like Sargeant, it's fast growing,

(53:49):
it will cover well beautifully, but it needs a structure
where you know, like we say, with ivy, it'll just
grow by itself up the wall.

Speaker 3 (53:57):
Star jasmin won't do that.

Speaker 4 (54:00):
Asthma would be even faster, right, Primrose, which one is
that one? Pink pink Catsman super not Primrose. I meant
pink pink super fast growing, right, you know.

Speaker 2 (54:12):
I like the star jasmine no better because when it
blooms in flowers, it's a little bit longer period. Pink
jasmine is so beautiful and gorgeous and dramatic, but then
for about four weeks exactly exactly, So I mean so
so I hope that that clarified it because you know
a lot of people do look for something that will

(54:33):
attach to the wall, and I mean, do you know
of anything else? But you know, I cloth.

Speaker 4 (54:41):
No, you definitely what is that ability that stick?

Speaker 1 (54:45):
Sticky? Is it stick?

Speaker 4 (54:47):
The tendrils have like suckers, They actually, like Tiger said,
grow into the wall. And in old homes back east,
you can see that the Ivy's actually pulled bricks out
of the house.

Speaker 3 (55:00):
Yeah, like into the mortar.

Speaker 2 (55:01):
Yeah yeah, and especially because like that mortar and those
bricks get damp.

Speaker 1 (55:06):
So the roots grow into the brick and mortar. That
sounds like a group on tour. The into the mortar tour.

Speaker 4 (55:16):
Mortar sounds like a country band.

Speaker 1 (55:18):
Brick and mortar. Yeah, that's good.

Speaker 4 (55:22):
Kevin said that he got scammed ordering some of the
t seeds after I endorsed the miracle tea that keeps
you healthy. No, you're thinking of Ashuwa Ganda, but it's
Ashi Taba.

Speaker 1 (55:37):
It's one of those.

Speaker 4 (55:39):
Kevin did good though. He said he thinks it was
called Angelica something, and it's he is a type of angelica.
Angelica case Ke and Corda Lane would be a perfect
area to grow it. But if you're trying to grow
it from seed, the seeds have to be what are
the two words tiger stratified.

Speaker 1 (56:00):
Scar sporified, and they have to be both.

Speaker 4 (56:02):
No, but they do need to be stratified, which is
which is the coal treatment.

Speaker 1 (56:07):
Break time. Sorry, I got to keep us on all
right on time for the network BIS Talk Radio. Okay,
we are back. We have two more segments. This This
segment right here is the longer of the two. This
is over ten minutes, plenty of time. And then our
final segment after the segment right here as we continue
broadcasting live. If you're just joining us Mission Hill's Nursery
and it is summertime, but we're I guess close enough

(56:29):
to the coast where the marine layer will probably break
up around eleven o'clock. Is that about right around here?
Eleven o'clock or noon? So we are enjoying the overcast
weather here, John, you're.

Speaker 4 (56:39):
We have a lot of marine layer up at Camp Pendleton.

Speaker 1 (56:43):
Absolutely, hey, players of marines.

Speaker 4 (56:45):
Finishing up with Kevin's talk on the ocean shaka, yeah,
the Angelica case case, since it does need to be stratified, Kevin,
if you plant the seeds, if you would mark that
area and just leave them in the ground, because they
won't come up till the next year. Yeah, where he lives,
Right where he lives. So after they've gone through the

(57:05):
winter they should be okay. But for us, well they
just do Yeah, they really don't grow well here because
now maybe on the coasts they would they need cool
conditions just in general in general, right in Fallbrook, it
it's too hot, they.

Speaker 1 (57:20):
Would do well here till eleven o'clock.

Speaker 4 (57:22):
Yeah, but they would have to be stratified, like Tiger's
saying before they would grow or you can buy plants.
Try to try to order plants online.

Speaker 2 (57:32):
Now, you know, because this comes up in buying plants
as far as if it's a seed, can you think
that that seed producer, the grower grooed in a region
that it wouldn't need to be stratified like for instance,
like we talked about like tula bolts, they need to
be cold. Right, A lot of growers they're what called

(57:54):
pre chilled where they sell them to you and they're
ready to plant, right, So seeds are not like that.

Speaker 1 (58:00):
You have to you.

Speaker 4 (58:02):
Can you can buy pre chilled seeds, right, and there
is someone online that says they've been pre chilled and
maybe that's what Kevin bought, okay, and then they didn't germinate.
But ashi taba is what's that current craze macha.

Speaker 3 (58:21):
Seed or cheap tea?

Speaker 4 (58:23):
Yeah that that they're running out of now right, Yeah,
and it's an internet craze. But because of that, the
seeds were hard to get, the plants were hard to get.
Tea Tea bags went from I think I used to
pay like eleven dollars a box of thirty, you know,
and now they're up to seventy dollars. Oh wow, gosh,

(58:46):
So that happens when something gets on the internet. I
heard today that the the latest craze was do buy chocolate?

Speaker 3 (58:54):
Oh that's been a craze for a while. Have you
had it?

Speaker 2 (58:56):
No, I'm not a huge fan of it. What's the difference?
What does it taste? The biggest difference is that number one,
there's pistachio, so meaning that flavor, right, you know, is different.
And then there's a product I forget what they call it,
but it's a crispy kind of feeling like a rice crispy,

(59:17):
like a rice, not like a rice crispy, but like
a it's stringy crispy. And I forget what they call it,
but those two are what make it. You know, the
Dubai very expensive.

Speaker 4 (59:29):
I think when you want chocolate, you want to Belgium, Swiss,
all that stuff, right, that's stick to the you know,
tried and true.

Speaker 2 (59:36):
Yeah, but I mean my wife and Isaac love it.
They they make they make their own and they love it.
Where I'm like, eh, you know.

Speaker 4 (59:45):
We're having problems with the level. So you're watching the levels.
John says Tiger that you need to either speak up
or hold the mic. Closer.

Speaker 2 (59:52):
I keep moving around, moving around, so it's probably it's.

Speaker 1 (59:55):
Definitely all roight side too.

Speaker 3 (59:57):
So yeah, sorry, I'll be bad.

Speaker 1 (01:00:00):
Is that your mic there?

Speaker 2 (01:00:01):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:00:01):
How about that?

Speaker 3 (01:00:02):
Did you did you push that down?

Speaker 1 (01:00:04):
No?

Speaker 3 (01:00:05):
You did one time when I wasn't looking, didn't you don't.

Speaker 1 (01:00:08):
Argue in front of our listeners and our viewers. You
were like, you're just be quiet, don't air our dirty laundry.
You know.

Speaker 4 (01:00:14):
John said that the ivy, his Boston Ivy ghost dormant
in the winter and wanted to know about Evergreen, So, well,
everything we were talking about was Evergreen. Yeah, and there
are Evergreen ivy too, Yeah, but they're all going to
do the same thing.

Speaker 3 (01:00:28):
Yeah, attached. Yeah, which, you know, it's funny.

Speaker 2 (01:00:31):
I like your idea of.

Speaker 4 (01:00:32):
The the screws or the nails or something. I'm running
wires in.

Speaker 1 (01:00:36):
Betray because your reaction was like really, yeah, I can
tell you like that. You've been thinking about that since
he said that.

Speaker 3 (01:00:42):
Well, you know, and it's funny.

Speaker 2 (01:00:44):
John mentioned the join dormant because that's the you know,
we talk about invasive, fast growing plants, and that's the
luxury sometimes of living in areas where things do die, right,
is because you have a reset button. Yes you are true, Yes,
Boss and Ivy here it does go dorm it, but
it goes dormant to the point where it just doesn't

(01:01:05):
look good, not so much like a real well, it.

Speaker 4 (01:01:08):
Does lose most of us.

Speaker 3 (01:01:10):
It's just kind of like ugly looking on weed is
growing on your wall.

Speaker 2 (01:01:14):
We're there. It actually looks dormant and nice for a
period of time. Yeah, any other days.

Speaker 4 (01:01:22):
Well, Dana's sticking up for you, she said, you sound fine.

Speaker 3 (01:01:26):
Dana's got my back today.

Speaker 1 (01:01:27):
I like everybody's got a different device that they listen
to us on, and so yeah, it's it's hard to
synchronize everybody.

Speaker 4 (01:01:35):
Yeah, you're getting cramped from holding your mic. Carlo is
concerned about you, me, all of us.

Speaker 1 (01:01:41):
No, I'm just it's just all chili. I'm just like
you know.

Speaker 4 (01:01:44):
That's why I've brought a long sleeve shirt.

Speaker 1 (01:01:46):
That one in the car too. I didn't think I
need it, you know. Well, never, I'm thinking about technically,
if we can I've got an idea friends level, if
we if we can put a limiture on this color.

Speaker 4 (01:01:58):
Wants to know about a good alternative for peat moss
to h If you're playing camellias in a pot.

Speaker 3 (01:02:05):
Would core be the same, because.

Speaker 4 (01:02:07):
Wouldn't Yeah, I would. Just you could buy an acid
mix which rather than using straight pea moss, I don't
think I would use straight peat moss anyway. Wouldn't you
rather mix it with something?

Speaker 1 (01:02:21):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:02:22):
Yeah, peat massage just yeah, it's way.

Speaker 4 (01:02:25):
Too So if you go to your garden center, local
garden center, Crowley should be able to buy any kind
of acid soil mix and usually say camellias and azaleas,
you know, usually throw us some rhododendrons too, right, even
though we can't grome very well.

Speaker 2 (01:02:38):
I love it that says it, you know, you know,
I mean we talk about gardening. It's like they always
market the most you know, tomato and rows. They put
that on every package of every product out there in
the nursery because that's the.

Speaker 1 (01:02:50):
Two most popular.

Speaker 2 (01:02:51):
Yeah. So the fact they put rhododendrons, I'm like, we're
rhododen is popular because they're not popular here.

Speaker 3 (01:02:57):
And even on the East Coast, I feel they're not
that popular.

Speaker 4 (01:03:00):
Pretty popular on these and especially the Pacific Northwest, there's
rhododendrons everywhere.

Speaker 3 (01:03:05):
Yeah, but enough to be putting them on packages of everything.

Speaker 4 (01:03:08):
Oh yeah, more so than azaleus. Okay, azaleas don't really
do well. And uh, well, I guess I should say
that in some areas, the rhododendrons are a little heartier, yeah,
than azaleas.

Speaker 2 (01:03:22):
I will say, though, you do have to in what
John mentioned right now, you go to a garden center
for your acid mix.

Speaker 3 (01:03:29):
Because I had a customer who we're.

Speaker 2 (01:03:30):
Doing some work for, and I said, hey, we need
some more you know, uh, acid mixed soil for your
your azalea.

Speaker 3 (01:03:40):
I think we're planting azaleas.

Speaker 2 (01:03:42):
And he's like okay, And he goes to the home
Depot or Low's or something like that, and he's like, hey,
there's nothing here that's like an acid mix. And I'm like, really,
they don't have a bag of planting mix that is
geared towards azalea's, hydrangeas, rhododendrons, camelias. And he said, no,
not at all. That's kind of shocking to me. I
thought that was kind of like a standard. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:04:03):
Well, she said she's having trouble finding it really. Yeah,
so it's easy to take what she's been doing is
taking regular potting soil and mixing it with peat moss.

Speaker 2 (01:04:16):
Yeah, I mean that's fine, that's great, Yeah, exactly what else.
There's also fertilizers that they use to change the.

Speaker 4 (01:04:25):
pH well, anything with sulfur in it, Okay, so that
if you want organic cotton seed meal, yeah, I don't
know if those are permanent though, if you want that,
I mean you can fertilize with those, and you should
fertilize with those products to keep. But the base of

(01:04:46):
the growing medium should be acidic.

Speaker 2 (01:04:48):
Yeah, that's going to make a big difference for the
long term.

Speaker 4 (01:04:53):
And you can add some things like rather than plain sulfur,
you can use iron sulfate.

Speaker 2 (01:05:00):
I do see a big change in my gardenias when
I do for like they they will, they will over
time kind of fade a bit, and then the minute
that I use an actual acid fertilizer on.

Speaker 4 (01:05:12):
Them, it's it's a huge change.

Speaker 3 (01:05:14):
It's a big change.

Speaker 2 (01:05:15):
So like, use it. You do need to use it.
It's not a forever thing.

Speaker 4 (01:05:19):
In southern California, the soils are usually very alkaline, so
you need that acid mix. But in parts of the
Northwest and back east they have acid soils, so they
do just fine. In some plants, they actually have to
add lime. They have to take them to decrease it,

(01:05:40):
increase it or increase increase the pH A.

Speaker 2 (01:05:44):
Yeah, so yeah, but yeah, so if she's having trouble
finding it in the only thing I would be careful
with in a potting mix, because she said planting or potting,
like is she putting these in the ground in pot
and putts so with a potting soil with the peat
is you know, get a premium potting soil because if

(01:06:04):
you buy the less expense, there's a lot of sawdust
they do. They use it as a filler, as a filler,
and and I think you'd be better using a premium
potting soil, Kevin.

Speaker 4 (01:06:16):
Kevin pointed out, you know you're talking about they always
include rhododendrons. Yeah, he says, in uh, Cordelaine, it's road
todendron and celia and dog with soil.

Speaker 3 (01:06:25):
Oh that's true.

Speaker 1 (01:06:26):
Right, Okay, We're going to take a break. We've got
one more segment coming up after this as we close
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(01:06:46):
of this broadcast from Mission Hills Nursery guard in America.
We're still on not I was gonna say not to
jinx it.

Speaker 3 (01:06:54):
We're still but I think this is the first complete
show is a pretty long time.

Speaker 1 (01:06:59):
No, it just goes to we I mean and Tiger
getting You know, most of the credit. We have worked
on trying to figure out these bugs. There's so many
different ways to hook up. We're actually line of sight
with good WiFi. We have strong WiFi. Back at the studio,
it was always very temperamental. If I took my phone
and moved it six inches one way, I had no connection.

Speaker 4 (01:07:18):
Well, you know, practice makes perfect. What about if we
started doing a daily show.

Speaker 1 (01:07:24):
There's already a show called the Daily Show, isn't there.

Speaker 4 (01:07:27):
I don't think it's as popular as it used to be.

Speaker 2 (01:07:31):
Yeah, but you know, and we've been changing things to
do things differently, right, so that way in the future
it will be better.

Speaker 1 (01:07:37):
It'll be better. And now next week we're going to
be at John's place. Right, we decided to yeah, right, Okay.

Speaker 4 (01:07:43):
Hey, Carla mentioned something and she's wasn't She didn't put
specifically what she was using, but she said she used
sulfur in the form of high hydrange of bluing at
it till I wanted to make sure that it was sulfur.

(01:08:04):
But usually if you have a hydrangea acid of fire,
the product is aluminum sulfate, and Carla, aluminum is poisonous
to plants. There's no reason to ever use aluminum sulfate
on anything, as far as I'm concerned. I don't know
what your thoughts are, Tiger, but why have.

Speaker 3 (01:08:26):
They advertise it as the bluing? Then is the blueing.

Speaker 4 (01:08:30):
Well because it does acidify, right, But our soils are
already full of aluminum and you're adding more and it's
detrimental to plants now in hydrangas the aluminum ion, Let's
see how I do this. Okay, The aluminum ion does
help to change the color of the flower flower.

Speaker 3 (01:08:53):
Yeah, and pink to blue, that's what you're looking at.

Speaker 4 (01:08:56):
Right, But the aluminum already being in the soil, if
you acidify the soil, it releases aluminum that's already there, gotcha,
So you don't want to add More's the point.

Speaker 2 (01:09:10):
The biggest thing is, like what you're saying, it's not
necessarily that I mean by adding too much aluminum, it's
very bad for the plant and very bad for the soil. Right,
All you need to do is adjust a pH to
the soil to make that available, and you'll be getting
just the same results.

Speaker 4 (01:09:29):
Right now, I'm thinking in a pot there may not
be the aluminum. If there would be in soil, so
you might be okay, it might not hurt, yeah, but
I don't. I did want to let people know just
in general, it's not good dad to the ground.

Speaker 2 (01:09:44):
Yeah, So in the ground though, just getting a like
for instance, if you have a blue azalia and you
want to change it to pink, you you, you know,
change the pH and then it'll it'll go away. But
if you want to create a.

Speaker 3 (01:10:01):
Pink or a blue.

Speaker 2 (01:10:03):
Azil, you're out of a pink one. Then you make
the soil more acidic. Is that what you're said, right?

Speaker 4 (01:10:10):
If it's blue to begin with, you can't. You can't
a blue hydrange it will turn pink and alkaline soil.
But a pink hydrange is always pink, Okay, it won't
turn blue in acidic soil. There's different varieties, there's pink varieties.

Speaker 3 (01:10:27):
And whites are just white.

Speaker 4 (01:10:28):
Whites are just white. Change now some of the new
whites have greens in them too.

Speaker 3 (01:10:34):
Different variations.

Speaker 2 (01:10:36):
And there's a lot of hydrangers also that have all
kinds of crazy color combinations. Oh yeah, and white. Isn't
there one called kaleidoscope?

Speaker 4 (01:10:45):
I love hydrangees. I'm also wanted to thank Carla for
uh uh sending me a nice note about the articles
in the newsletter she really likes.

Speaker 1 (01:10:54):
Yeah, I know they're very well thought, and you know,
if you can read their educational even.

Speaker 2 (01:11:00):
If you don't read, you could just have the phone
or tablet or whatever just dictate it to you exactly.

Speaker 4 (01:11:05):
Well, now with the cartoons, you can just look at
the pictures.

Speaker 1 (01:11:08):
You know what's going on exactly.

Speaker 4 (01:11:11):
Some people mentioned during the week that they found the
Garden America Radio show Instagram site and they said that
it was great they could look at all the cartoons
right there.

Speaker 1 (01:11:23):
So we have to promote Instagram, yeah a little bit more.

Speaker 4 (01:11:26):
Yeah, well, you know, we just started there. I think
there's a total of six people.

Speaker 1 (01:11:30):
That already already I think so half.

Speaker 4 (01:11:34):
A dozen, but anyway, it's kind of fun, I said. Honestly,
I still don't get Instagram. I don't know what it is,
what it does.

Speaker 1 (01:11:43):
It's you know what, It's just another place to to
get your social media.

Speaker 4 (01:11:48):
Hey, Bill in Elaine and here in San Diego. Elaine
is the president of the San Diego Dahlia Society, and
both of them are top notch rose growers.

Speaker 1 (01:12:06):
You mentioned this a couple of weeks ago. Yeah, yeah, and.

Speaker 4 (01:12:08):
Bill and they they win trophies and shows all the time.
And Bill likes all kinds of plants, collects succulents and things.
But anyway, he gave me a micro mini rose called WE,
and yes I did get it Bill. It's very appropriately
w e no no oh ui French.

Speaker 1 (01:12:32):
French.

Speaker 4 (01:12:33):
And because the world's smallest rose is called c you
know s I and this one.

Speaker 2 (01:12:40):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:12:41):
Paul Barton, who bred the rose, thought he was being
clever and called this one WE. But the reason Bill
was asking the question was he said, I gave it
to someone to give to you, and I was worried
he might keep it for himself. So no, the person
you gave it to, Bill did not keep it, and
he was very very nice to give that to me,

(01:13:02):
and I appreciate it.

Speaker 3 (01:13:03):
Are you sure they gave you the correct one? Oh?

Speaker 2 (01:13:05):
Yeah, this might be some of the day like, oh,
I'm gonna swap this one out for one of my
microom mini ones.

Speaker 4 (01:13:10):
If you saw it, you would know it was the
size of a quarter.

Speaker 2 (01:13:15):
Oh my goodness, no way.

Speaker 4 (01:13:17):
Yeah, well it was just grown from yeah, maybe or
my house. Next week I'll bring it out and we
can take a look one minute.

Speaker 1 (01:13:26):
All right, Yeah, how about that? Huh.

Speaker 3 (01:13:28):
We went through a whole show. Well done, guys.

Speaker 1 (01:13:31):
A few little speed bombs or glitches, but we continue
to iron it out and we appreciate you hanging in there. Seriously.
You know, talker did a good job this week researching
so several ways to do this. We think we've narrowed
it down to maybe one or two of the best
ways to do it in terms of the audio, the
video and so on and so forth. Sounds fun, all right,

(01:13:51):
So have yourself a great rest of your weekend. Thank
you for your support, Thank you for joining us. You
should have read the newsletter. We should have subscribed to
the newsletter. Go to a garden America dot com, and
thank you so much. This show we'll be on YouTube
later on this afternoon for the entire crew. I'm Brian
Main and that would be the crew of course, Tiger, Pola, Fox,
John Magnasco, Thank you to Stephanie at BizTalk Radio. Thank
you to our webmaster Daniel and everybody concerned with guard

(01:14:15):
in America. Take care, have a great weekend, be safe.
We'll catch you next week at John Magnasco's house

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