Live from John's Garden House - Garden America Podcasts & Radio Show [8.9.25] - Garden America - Gardening Podcast & Talk Radio Show

Episode Transcript
Available transcripts are automatically generated. Complete accuracy is not guaranteed.
Speaker 1 (00:00):
Your house, John is. In other words, the cameras are
looking west.

Speaker 2 (00:03):
This is west, right, The cameras are looking west and
the oops, hey, just like the old days, John's got
his I do want you to miss that. I know
your phone's in this studio, but you feel like you're
at home.

Speaker 1 (00:17):
Right anyway, So but anyway behind us.

Speaker 2 (00:19):
Would be the ocean. Right now, it's all foggy, right,
and you can't see the ocean from here. But if
you could see over those.

Speaker 1 (00:26):
Actually, Johnny cleared up a little bit because about it. Yeah,
we couldn't even see that canyon.

Speaker 2 (00:32):
In another thirty forty minutes, the sun should be.

Speaker 1 (00:35):
Out and it will warm up.

Speaker 2 (00:38):
Where I had to set up. We had to do
it the last minute, move the table because our WiFi
wasn't good.

Speaker 1 (00:44):
It's all about Wi Fi.

Speaker 2 (00:46):
But we were set up on the north side of
the house. Yes, where they would have kept us out
of the sun.

Speaker 1 (00:53):
Right, But this is good because we won't probably see
the sun because of the We're looking directly at your house, right,
so the probably won't be a factor. Before we get.

Speaker 3 (01:02):
Off the air.

Speaker 2 (01:03):
Yeah, okay, we had a couple of days ago it
was one hundred degrees here it was just so hot.

Speaker 1 (01:09):
You had some plant material actually fry.

Speaker 2 (01:13):
Well all the roses. I mean you can you can
see now.

Speaker 1 (01:16):
Tiger hasn't said much of anything yet. He's busy making
sure that things look good. From a video audio standpoint, Tiger,
how we're doing so far.

Speaker 3 (01:25):
We got off to a little shaky start, but things
are looking good now. So when we say that with confidence, Yeah,
when we opened the show, there was a little bit
of some glitchiness, but I think we're settling in now.
And you know, I will say for the people that
are watching, We've got two shots that are coming across

(01:45):
on the cameras, and one is of John's new veggie garden,
which we've talked about a lot, you know, in the
past couple of weeks about you know, planting it late
and right. I mean it looks just tremendous. Yeah, it
does look it's growing in nice. So had my first
red tomatoes. I was gonna say, okay, you know how
I in my yard, I have always those volunteer tomatoes,

(02:08):
and I brought them in. We talked about two bite tomatoes.
They're not quite you know, a cherry, but they're bigger.
Number one, I feel like every year they're getting a
little bigger. Okay, so they're getting big, but mine aren't
even green or mine aren't even red yet. And and
they started from seed at a normal time of year.

(02:30):
In yours, you just planted what a month ago? It
seems like two months, two months ago, and you're already
getting tomatoes off. It was it was June.

Speaker 2 (02:39):
Okay, I planted, which is light for California, right, and
so it's about two months ago. The real test is
two weeks ago I planted cantalope.

Speaker 3 (02:53):
Which one is that from seed? Or where is that? See?

Speaker 1 (02:56):
Okay?

Speaker 2 (02:57):
Yeah there right now they're in the Cotta Leiden stage,
the stage.

Speaker 3 (03:03):
Yeah, that's that's that's in the second bed. Okay, So
what we'll do is maybe we'll switch SWT shots during
a commercial to show the second bed, because in that
bed you have different dividers that separate different seeds, which
I'm assuming are different plants.

Speaker 2 (03:17):
Right right now, the second bed, the first bed hass
chicken wire around it, yeah, to keep the critters out.
And yesterday, you know, I you kind of wonder what
animal's motives are. Yes, but this little cute baby bunny
came up to my front porch.

Speaker 3 (03:36):
And said, can you plant me some cancer? And looked
was looking at me.

Speaker 1 (03:40):
I know what he was saying. Have you seen my
friend that was in your driveway about a month ago?

Speaker 2 (03:44):
And I opened the door followed it out of the
house because it didn't run away fast, which they normally do,
and it hopped over into the vegetable garden.

Speaker 1 (03:55):
I knew where it was going and what it wanted
it was.

Speaker 3 (03:57):
It was almost like teasing.

Speaker 1 (03:59):
Now, can you find one of these critics and bring
him on the show this morning?

Speaker 3 (04:03):
Well, we should have plenty of birds pretty soon.

Speaker 1 (04:05):
Yeah, they've been rather quiet this morning, haven't they so far?

Speaker 2 (04:09):
Yeah, they usually wait for the sun. We did have
a group of finches behind us.

Speaker 3 (04:13):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (04:14):
Anyway, I welcome people once again, if you're just joining us.
It is Garden America broadcasting from John Begnasco's palacious estate
here in Fawborough, California. Welcome to those on biz Talk
Radio who obviously can't see. You're not visual, but your
audio so hopefully the information we give you will be
will be just as good in terms of learning about
gardening and what we're doing. This time of the year.

(04:34):
It is August, dog days of summer normally one of
the hottest months here in San Diego normally.

Speaker 2 (04:40):
How did you guys celebrate yesterday?

Speaker 3 (04:43):
Was it the the zucchini did? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (04:46):
Yeah, it's a national sneak some zucchini onto your neighbor's
porch day.

Speaker 3 (04:51):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (04:51):
I did that, along with some other material and trasure
I didn't want got I just figured, you know what,
here have the whole thing.

Speaker 2 (04:58):
Yeah, I did. We have pizucchini. So far, we've gotten
let's say three four zucchini.

Speaker 3 (05:10):
Front porch.

Speaker 1 (05:11):
Now, maybe people heard that yesterday, but I've never heard that.

Speaker 3 (05:15):
It was never something that you never heard that. Yeah,
you know it's it's it's fun though, right, because it
brings up the concept of sharing crop sharing, Which why
zucchini because because nobody eats as much zucchini as zucchini plants.
That'd be like ship that'd be like a share of
lemon day. Yeah. If you have a lemon tree, yeah,

(05:37):
I can guarantee there's no one out there besides the
sun Kiss company that uses all of the lemons on
that tree.

Speaker 1 (05:44):
And that's why people bring lemons to work. Yes, you
put them in the kitchen and say take what you
want to take as many as you want, please. Well,
I'll give you an example of those two lines you
gave me last week. Yeah, they're still sitting in the
fruit ball.

Speaker 3 (05:54):
Yeah. I've been ready to go lives. They're big limes.
So yeah, I'll figure something out.

Speaker 2 (06:01):
I have three citrus, three lemon trees on my property. Yeah,
exactly one was here a Meyer. Usually if people plant
two trees, they'll plant one Myer and one Eureka. Yeah,
and I don't have Eureka. I planted the like I said,
the Meyer was here. But then for Brian, Brian, I

(06:22):
planted the Saint Teresa melon, not melon, but lemon lemon.
And the reason I planted it was because did you
either you had the recipe or did you make your own?

Speaker 1 (06:36):
Linchela years ago? Now you're going to fit ten years ago.

Speaker 3 (06:40):
Well, these lemons are the type they use in right. Yeah,
So does that one produce like a Meyer or Eureka lemon,
because pink lemonade. If you want to plant a lemon
and not get a lot of lemons, plant pink lemonade,
because they just don't produce the number usually at Amaya

(07:01):
Eureka does. So does that Saint Louis actually.

Speaker 2 (07:04):
The official name of pink lemonade, or the original name
was variegated Eureka lemon.

Speaker 3 (07:15):
Like pink lemonade.

Speaker 2 (07:16):
But I'm the one who trademarked the name pink lemonade.
And I got the title from.

Speaker 3 (07:23):
From Bill Nelson. Do you remember Bill?

Speaker 2 (07:25):
Did you ever meet Bill Nelson at Pacific Tree Farms?

Speaker 3 (07:28):
I know, we know, we see Bill Nelson.

Speaker 2 (07:29):
Well, we've had him on our show. And he was
the one who first showed me that plant. So that
would have been thirty years ago, okay, And and I
was surprised because they had never seen first of all,
a variegated lemon. Variegated leaves leave and then the fruit

(07:54):
when you cut it open, is pink inside, and the
fruit is variegated until it's ripe, and when it's ripe,
it's completely yellow.

Speaker 3 (08:02):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (08:02):
So he was telling me all this and how excited
he was, and I said, would you mind if I
had somebody grow this for us commercially? And he said no, no,
just so I still have the the rights to sell
it myself. And I said, oh, yeah, absolutely, of course.
And he said he was the one who came up

(08:24):
with the idea. Why don't you call it pink lemonade.

Speaker 3 (08:26):
No, that's good name. Yeah. Yeah, but you know that
one does not produce like Amei or Eureka.

Speaker 2 (08:32):
Yeah, it sounds perfect. It's like the Costada roman Esco zucchini. Yeah,
it doesn't produce as much as the others.

Speaker 3 (08:39):
But does the saint therees one produce or no?

Speaker 2 (08:43):
Well, I don't know because so far I've had one.

Speaker 3 (08:46):
Okay, but it's still young.

Speaker 2 (08:48):
It's still a small tree. But now it's to the
size where it should start producing. I should have a
good crap next year. The Department of Agriculture was here
last week. Did I tell you that? No, they didn't
shut you down, did they? Because you're still operating.

Speaker 3 (09:02):
He's got a he's got one of those grades out
in front of his property.

Speaker 1 (09:06):
Yeah, like a restaurant. And what do they have to say, John, Well.

Speaker 2 (09:09):
They were looking at the citrus, okay, and they found
the syllid that carries the wang long bing. Oh yeah,
the citrus greening disease.

Speaker 1 (09:23):
Wan long bing.

Speaker 3 (09:25):
Is there another name for it?

Speaker 2 (09:26):
No, citrus greening disease, I guess, yeah the English translation
and uh. And they sent it off to a lab
to see if the syllid was infected with the disease. Okay,
And they said if you don't hear back, that means
it was fine. But they they pulled them off both
lemon trees and they said lemons are the first citrus.

Speaker 1 (09:49):
To get it'll show. In other words, that's like an
indication that there's something.

Speaker 2 (09:52):
And they have a finger lined down below. And I
asked him about that because they think that's a different
genus than citrus.

Speaker 1 (09:59):
We're going to take our first break. We're going to
take our first break.

Speaker 3 (10:01):
Oh, well, we come back. Why don't we do the quote?

Speaker 1 (10:03):
Yeah, do we have any questions?

Speaker 3 (10:05):
Comments? We okay, so far John, We're gonna take a break.
Comments okay.

Speaker 1 (10:09):
Of course, if you're watching us on Facebook live broadcasting
outside from John Begnasco's place, his house is a state
here and a lot of things happening this morning. Thank
you for joining us. Thank you for those that are
tuned in on BIS talk Radio inspect in fact, speaking
of BIS talk radio, we're going to take our first break.
Thank you to Fertilm or major sponsor, and the rest
of the sponsors. You hear on BIS talk Radio. This
is guard in America. Back after those messages, I just

(10:31):
referred to Okay, we are back. We hope you had
a good break. We had a fantastic break. Nice to
be outside here a lot going on around us. John's
got the quote of the week, and I think, Tiger,
you've got a camera shot on one of the one
of the roses. Is that right, Yes, that we can
talk about. So John the quote of the week, which
if you get the newsletter and various are the things
that we send out emails Instagram. You saw the quote.

(10:51):
You read the quote. For those that didn't, John's going
to read it again.

Speaker 2 (10:55):
Well, you know, the whole newsletter was kind of dedicated
to the hot time of the year year. You know,
I wrote an article called gardening on empty and how
you shouldn't feel bad if you're you're tired this time
of year of gardening and things are looking a little tired,
it's all right to just sit back and relax and
kind of contemplate.

Speaker 1 (11:14):
You think, gardeners we always feel like we have to
be doing something.

Speaker 2 (11:18):
Well, I'm always doing something. I mean, you look around,
you feel like it. But sometimes there's a difference between
always doing something and getting stressed out because it's not done.
You know, Like like I nobody can see it right now,
but we're facing my Japanese rose bed. In the area
to the right is manicured and.

Speaker 3 (11:39):
Ready to go. It looks good.

Speaker 2 (11:41):
In the area to the left is the before, So
we have before and after.

Speaker 1 (11:45):
You don't caught my attention. And again people watching on
Facebook can't see it. That road straight ahead where there's
there's nothing except the.

Speaker 2 (11:52):
Stocks in the thorn, kagagayaki, kaga yaki.

Speaker 1 (11:57):
Now that looks like a very what will be a
very healthy road.

Speaker 2 (12:00):
Well, I cut them all back, and they had the
leaves on them, and they'll come out with new leaves,
and everything that is on the right that's just been
cut back will in the fall just be it's actually
six weeks from now, will be in full bloom and
it'll look good. And I put down the weed preventer
and a little bit of mulch, and it just looks.

Speaker 1 (12:21):
Do you know why I remember the six week period
because you told me years ago, if you're going to
enter a rose at the Delmar Fair.

Speaker 3 (12:28):
To cut six weeks before.

Speaker 1 (12:30):
Six weeks before, so by the time you place it
into the fair to be seen, it'll have come to
fruition and look it's best.

Speaker 3 (12:37):
Well you'll attle least have flowers. Yeah, and that's rough.
You know, some.

Speaker 2 (12:43):
Varieties are a little bit earlier, some are a little
bit later.

Speaker 3 (12:46):
But it's gonna be rough.

Speaker 2 (12:47):
But six six is rough anyway. The quote Brian was
a gardener, excuse me, gardens are not made by singing,
Oh how beautiful in sitting in the shade.

Speaker 3 (13:00):
I liked that quote because I think I think that's
a little bit of a issue today, is that everybody
wants instant gratification, and I think.

Speaker 2 (13:14):
That higher you can't sit in the shape.

Speaker 3 (13:16):
Yeah, but like but like you know, gardening is it's
a lot of work. And when you see someone who
has a beautiful garden or you know they they you know,
have a lot of garden or plants, you know how
much work it takes and how much effort it is,
and so you can appreciate that. It's kind of like,

(13:37):
you know, when somebody cooks a good meal for you,
and sure, and you've all prepared meals for yourselves at
some point in time, so you can understand, like, you know,
number one, it took a lot to prepare that meal.
Number two, there's a lot that goes into it. In
before and after, whether it's the dishes or the materials
or the shopping and everything else. And that's gardening, because
a garden just doesn't happen for you, you know what

(14:00):
I mean.

Speaker 1 (14:01):
I mean, if you left it alone, it would happen,
but not the way you envision it. And in other words,
like we talked about roses that are in graveyard cemeteries,
in the wild whatever, nobody taking care, nobody takes care
of them, that they do just fine. In fact, before
we were even walking this planet, for the most part,
everything was fine. But now we've come along and we.

Speaker 3 (14:21):
Want to think for the most part, I think everything
was perfectly fine before we were walking this planet. Good,
good point, unhumanist. But I think I think we've developed
our own. It's pretty good for a few months. Yeah,
there was pretty nice a few months. But I think
then we came along and we wanted a format exactly,
we wanted things to be.

Speaker 1 (14:40):
Everything has its place. You know what did Bruce Osakawa
used to say, a weight is just a flower, a
misplaced flower that chooses not to grow in a row.

Speaker 2 (14:51):
Yeah, well, I think that quote was from Luther Burbah
that he used. Yeah, I think that he had two
similar one was a flower is or weed is an
uneducated flower, right.

Speaker 1 (15:03):
Like that we're paraphrasing now, right, And and what was
the other one?

Speaker 2 (15:09):
Yeah, the other one was that that weed is a
plant that hasn't learned to grow properly.

Speaker 3 (15:15):
You grow?

Speaker 1 (15:16):
Hey, what do we have going on?

Speaker 2 (15:17):
I wanted to mention though, that that quote was from
Rudyard Kipling, Yeah, Rutgers not because.

Speaker 1 (15:25):
Used with Rutger Howard right right.

Speaker 3 (15:27):
Jungle Book, right, yeah, the Jungle Book.

Speaker 2 (15:30):
The man who would be king did, and and we
had we visited his home exactly, and we saw the
last apple tree that was on his property that he
planted right.

Speaker 3 (15:43):
Yes, his office where he wrote. We saw the home,
we saw the estate, and walking the estate. It's almost
it's almost as if I could see some of the
scenes from his books sure in his property, you know,
whether it was the creek and the trees and the

(16:05):
plants growing along the creek and the fern grove and
all this other stuff. I I definitely felt, I'm like
this guy wrote the Jungle Book, you know what I mean?
Even though the even though the property was in England,
even though you know, we were not in where was
the Jungle book based in the Amazon or India. Yeah, yeah, India.

(16:27):
You know. I could feel I could feel like we
were there from his estate.

Speaker 1 (16:31):
It was really neat and.

Speaker 2 (16:34):
We had a listener years ago. A teacher in elkoholone
who wrote me had read Ricky Ticky Tavvy to her
her students. Huh and in the beginning of the description
of the garden it mentioned the fragrance of the in

(16:55):
the book, he wrote, Marshall Neil roses, which is a
beautiful hybrid tea. But she said she looked everywhere and
I can't find Marshall Neil. Do you know if it
would be possible to get one? And why isn't it
Why is there no information on it? So he had

(17:17):
put the English spelling of Marshall Neil and it was
actually named after a French Marshall, so it was Mara
Schall Neil okay instead of Marshall Neil. So Marshall Niell
is a rose that that people still like today. It's
not as easy to find, but extremely fragrant. And he

(17:38):
described the fragrance of that rose, you know, as it
was It's a climbing rose, you know, climbing into trees
and things, and that's kind of what you're talking about.
You know, he probably walked out in news garden smelled
that and wrote about it.

Speaker 3 (17:51):
Yeah, and included that in his book. Yeah, while we're
on that, we got about a minute ago, do you know, Yeah, well,
I don't know how about any questions comments?

Speaker 1 (18:01):
Do we need to be uh?

Speaker 2 (18:04):
How about we do this when we come back. I
wanted to that quote that I read. The quote of
the week is kind of a common one that you
see if you look up garden quotes on the internet,
but it doesn't tell you where it came from. And
I wanted to talk a little bit about where he
wrote that, and then we'll go into questions and comments you.

Speaker 1 (18:28):
Can tell you know, you and I just kind of
show up and hope, well, yeah, you know, next segment,
which is one of the longer segments, and plenty of
time for questions comments here and again we are outside

(18:48):
beautiful sin is going to be doing this thing here
in about ten fifteen minutes from John Begnasco's place, California.

Speaker 3 (18:55):
Hi.

Speaker 1 (18:56):
Brian Tiger Palafox, John Begnasco, We're taking time out to
get if BIS Talk Radio. These messages of interest, do
stay with them. Okay, we are back from the break.
Thank you those that are tuned in on BIS Talk Radio,
those on Facebook Live. We are going to get your questions,
your comments that John has set us up prior to
the break with this segment. John, So it's all about you,
my friend.

Speaker 3 (19:17):
Well, I wanted to.

Speaker 2 (19:20):
Mention that that quote came from a poem by Rudyard
Kipling called The Glory of the Garden, and I would
I would encourage our listeners to google by Rudyard Kipping
Kipling The Glory of the Garden because it's a great

(19:41):
poem and if it wasn't for this quote, I never
I don't think I've ever read it before.

Speaker 3 (19:47):
But it's really cool. You're touched.

Speaker 1 (19:52):
I am touched, you know, because you stumbled onto something
you wouldn't otherwise have ever seen.

Speaker 3 (19:56):
Yeah, it ends.

Speaker 2 (19:58):
The last paragraph goes through talking about I think the
first line is our England is a garden that's full
of stately views. But then the last paragraph says, oh
Adam was a gardener, and God who made him sees
that half a proper gardener's work is done upon his knees.

Speaker 1 (20:22):
I can't write, I can't write things like that.

Speaker 2 (20:24):
Yeah, so when your work is finished, you can wash
your hands and pray for the glory of the garden
that it may not pass away. So anyway, but it's
it's good.

Speaker 3 (20:35):
Yeah, it sounds it's it's always nice when you can
kind of connect to something in the garden, like you know,
our our friend Deborly Baldwin, right, watercolors like that was her.
She loved painting the garden in watercolors. And and when

(20:56):
you can kind of connect something else to what you're
doing in the yard, you know, it's a lot of fun.
And you know, I'm surprised you don't write more because
you like writing, John, why don't you write poetry?

Speaker 2 (21:10):
And and you know I used to write poetry.

Speaker 3 (21:14):
I know that's what I'm saying, But I don't know
why why don't you write poetry? Did you write haiku poetry?
I've written haiku.

Speaker 1 (21:21):
Yeah, we learned that in fourth grade. To this day,
certain things stand out, you know. Yeah, they taught us
hikup poetry in fourth grade.

Speaker 3 (21:29):
I think they teach you like all poetry right and
throughout like school. Did you learn poetry? I think we
all like learn it?

Speaker 1 (21:36):
I mean, I mean it to me. It's it's etched
in my mind like, oh really, Oh, it doesn't have
to rhyme. I remember that.

Speaker 3 (21:42):
Oh that was what stood out, Ye, that it's a poet.
It doesn't have.

Speaker 1 (21:46):
It doesn't necessarily have to rhyme.

Speaker 2 (21:50):
It's the number of syllables. There's three lines, and it's
uh like three three five or something. Okay, yeah, yeah,
it's number of syllables in each line. Okay, Yeah, I
I wrote almost I think I wrote one poem after
I was married, and all my poetry was written before

(22:11):
I was married. Well, you know, people write poetry usually
to express themselves, and and I only wrote poetry when I.

Speaker 3 (22:21):
Was I was gonna say, I remember you said your
poetry was dark. Yeah, it was kind of dark. It
was that was kind of dark. And after you got married.
I remember you You've brought this up before, but I mean,
you know, the plants. I would think like at some
point in time, something instane. You know. It's interesting. I've
never ever been moved by anything in my life to
write poetry.

Speaker 1 (22:42):
It would just be like, hey, I'm but you're such
a happy guy.

Speaker 3 (22:45):
No, I mean, well, doesn't always have to be dark.

Speaker 1 (22:48):
My motivation would be more like, let's see if I
can do this. So what's happening on Facebook?

Speaker 2 (22:53):
John, Oh my gosh, all kinds of stuff. First of all,
I want to say, everybody that's giving us a shout out, we.

Speaker 3 (23:00):
Should shout back. We should.

Speaker 2 (23:03):
We got our friend John clements John and he said Hi,
Hello John.

Speaker 3 (23:08):
And John must be listening after he does his show.
So for the people viewing, we did do a little
bit of some camera switches and we'll mention those. Of right,
we talked about the second bed of John's veggies where
he planted some of what is in the middle of
that bed, John, that's growing so well? Right now? Of

(23:29):
which bed, the second one, the second veggie bed, See,
it's right here. It's got right in the bush cucumbers, bush,
bush cucumbers. That seems like a lot of bush. Did
you put the whole seed package in there?

Speaker 2 (23:42):
I planted half the package, and I thought, what am
I going to do with half pack? They're probably not
all gonna come up?

Speaker 3 (23:52):
Okay, So you.

Speaker 2 (23:54):
Guys, instead of zucchini, you're gonna get bush. You're gonna
get bush cucumbers.

Speaker 3 (23:58):
Got it? Okay? And and then where is the cantlope
in that bed. It's at the closest edge of the cam,
bottom of the camera, at the top of the camp.
It'll be at the west end. Well we are at
the west end. Okay, so that at the top of
the camera. The got it so towards.

Speaker 2 (24:23):
Just just popped up, Like I said, No, Lesia, just kind.

Speaker 3 (24:26):
Of lead just just.

Speaker 1 (24:31):
Right now.

Speaker 2 (24:31):
Yeah, Brian, we're getting a lot of cutting in and yeah.

Speaker 1 (24:35):
I know, I'm looking at your WiFi and wondering why
that's happening.

Speaker 3 (24:38):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (24:40):
We've got.

Speaker 2 (24:44):
So much seeing their Christ for help. We do see it.
We're just not sure what we can do about it.

Speaker 1 (24:50):
Yeah, I mean it's everything looks good on this end
right for the most part. As far as leaving, you know,
leaving this area for the broadcast. Yeah, so it could
be a lot of things, know a lot of times.

Speaker 3 (25:00):
Slow it down, we can slow down our the way
we speak, just talk, just talk a little slower, maybe
stop having fun exactly. And then John I switched Roses
to Conrad March. John wrote John on the side of

(25:21):
his can.

Speaker 2 (25:22):
That's how you doesn't say Conrad, it says Leonar, Leonar
what de marsh March?

Speaker 3 (25:29):
It says Conrad March.

Speaker 1 (25:31):
It doesn't say you get Conrad from on the side
of the can.

Speaker 3 (25:37):
It's I'll show.

Speaker 1 (25:38):
It to you. Is like me last week at the
at the at your nursery when I said, that's an
Australian apples whatever, and you guys said, what is that?

Speaker 3 (25:47):
What is that? This is?

Speaker 1 (25:48):
Nothing exists.

Speaker 3 (25:48):
I said, it's written. It's written on the on the boat.
That is not anything near. I just can't read John's hand, right,
Okay it is, yeah, oh well that could be.

Speaker 1 (25:57):
We got about a minute before the next break.

Speaker 2 (26:01):
I'm I'm trying to find out what the heck I'm
doing here.

Speaker 1 (26:05):
Hey, hey, you know, and I've seen recently speaking speaking
of birds that John mentioned. In fact, they haven't really
come to life yet, have they the books?

Speaker 3 (26:12):
I think we're talking there. Yeah, they're so enthralled. I'm
seeing more and more orioles in our patio. I'm talking
about the yellow black. I've never seen one around. And
I think because because apparently because I think orange, No,
these are yellow, No, these are yellow.

Speaker 1 (26:29):
No, they're big birds. And and I think it's because anymore,
you know, I had I was going to finish this up,
but we have to take a break. All a break
for Bistalk Radio Garden America.

Speaker 3 (26:46):
Steve.

Speaker 1 (26:47):
Okay, so that was a little longer break for Facebook Live,
the same length obviously for BIS talk Radio. We were
waiting for the the Wi fi, the computer, the feed
to catch up with us. And everything looks good on
this end. We're strong, Wi Fi strong, so on and
so forth. So interesting. Maybe there's too many people tuned in.
Did you ever think of that?

Speaker 3 (27:07):
Oh? Could be Facebook's servers just came.

Speaker 1 (27:11):
There you go, Facebook, there you go, there's your there's
the problem, and boy, oh boys, and look behind me,
here comes the sun.

Speaker 3 (27:17):
What's really got to be kind of for the people
watching is they saw the sun hit the ridge across
from us, you know, behind us, and now it's starting
to creep up. Yeah, yeah, exactly, and you know you
and then even within this shot, the close shots, like
the one of the Leonardo.

Speaker 2 (27:37):
It's Leonard, Leonard de Marge, almost like our faithful listener Lenoir.

Speaker 3 (27:44):
Oh okay, Leonard.

Speaker 2 (27:46):
Anyway, you know a little bit about that rose, yes,
other than not being able to read the name correctly,
correct it was. At the time it came out, it
was used as a florist rose and was the standard
for red roses, and right now you probably would think

(28:08):
it's not really much of a red rose, right right.
It's kind of a faded red, muted red. I wouldn't
think of it as standard yet, right, but what I
believe it came out in the thirties, nineteen thirties or
something like that. But anyway, that's the history behind that one.

Speaker 3 (28:23):
Okay. And so as a florist road, that's a Flora bunda.

Speaker 2 (28:29):
Yeah yeah, well cut flowers cut the uh.

Speaker 3 (28:37):
Team, okay and uh and the more flora bunda is
more not not the single stem floorst rose like we
think of today.

Speaker 2 (28:51):
Well, just not the upright stiff form, gotcha. That exhibition
form is what uh.

Speaker 3 (28:59):
Sounds like an eleanor Roosevelt rose. You know what.

Speaker 2 (29:03):
I found that rose in Germany and I made myself
a note. I'm going to try to to get that
over here.

Speaker 3 (29:12):
Really.

Speaker 1 (29:13):
Yeah, it's a climber, isn't it.

Speaker 2 (29:16):
It's a sport of another rose. And I forget what
it is I was reading up on it.

Speaker 3 (29:21):
I didn't. I never realized there.

Speaker 2 (29:22):
Was a sport. So let's see where where are oh tiger.
We have a question from John in Newport Beach, All right.
And he was reading the newsletter and one of the
things in the newsletter was talking about adding mulches this
time of year, and he wanted to know if you
could recommend a good organic mulch. I think almost all

(29:47):
mulches other than rubber mot organic, right, is going to
be organic?

Speaker 3 (29:51):
Right? Yeah, I mean, you know, I mean and and
then you know you really like the black bolts like
we're we have in this bed, People might consider that
organic before it has a dye, right, you know, like
you'll see the green or the red or the black,
but it's clean.

Speaker 2 (30:06):
But I only use that in the beds around the
house because Shannon thinks it's neat.

Speaker 3 (30:13):
But I use ground up mulch.

Speaker 2 (30:16):
You know, my son has a tree terming business, and
he brings everything that's gone through his chipper home and
dumps it on the property.

Speaker 3 (30:25):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (30:26):
So I've got all kinds of trees and a lot
of the mulch I use. The mult I use from him,
I think is my most successful. The plants really like it.
But I have mulches that people say, oh, you can't
use that mult like eucalyptus molt.

Speaker 1 (30:42):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (30:43):
It.

Speaker 2 (30:43):
Eucalyptus makes a great mulch, and I've used pepper tree mulch.

Speaker 3 (30:49):
Yeah, you just got to be careful, right, you know,
as far as like too much, you know, eucalyptus like molts,
like if you put too much, I don't think so.
You don't think so, do you? What do you think?
I mean? It's it doesn't talking about the oils, just
talking about everything in moderation for a guard. I think
garden is good. You know, just like people put coffee
grounds on plants, you could put too much, you know,

(31:11):
if you just start dumping buckets of coffee ground on
your garden, next thing, you know, you've got a soupy
mess of soil that that just never dries out. Exactly.

Speaker 2 (31:22):
Speaking of messes, did you happen to notice in the
garden vegetable garden over there there was some dog vomit fungus?

Speaker 3 (31:29):
I did not, Sorry I missed that just to touch
just wait, dog vomit? What dog vomit?

Speaker 1 (31:42):
I've heard a lot of first today.

Speaker 3 (31:44):
Yeah, we've talked about that before. Yeah, I think.

Speaker 1 (31:48):
We talked about a dog returning to his vomit.

Speaker 3 (31:50):
No, that's one of your favorite scriptures, right.

Speaker 1 (31:54):
Exactly, John knows what I'm talking about so do uh explain? Explain, Lucy, Well.

Speaker 2 (32:01):
No, it's a type of fungus. It gets the name
because it looks like dog vomit.

Speaker 1 (32:06):
Yeah, what's different from dog vomits than other Yeah, it.

Speaker 3 (32:09):
Looks like vomit. During the break, go look at it.
A fungus from the soil. It's from the soiler, from
barks or mulches.

Speaker 1 (32:16):
Somebody decided it looks like dog vomits.

Speaker 3 (32:18):
And that's what they named it, just like spittlebug, looks
like somebody spit on your plants, the spittle bug.

Speaker 1 (32:25):
Okay, welcome back, doing our best to try to track
down some of the intermittent break up here on guard
to America Facebook Live biz talk radio. So thank you
for your patients. John is actually in the house making
a cup of coffee, a.

Speaker 3 (32:40):
Machiato for me, fancy fancy coffee. And I know that
we did break up during my talk of mulches. I
did post the company name in the product name on
the chat. But for those of you that maybe are
listening and don't follow the chat agres service, it's at

(33:01):
the el coroson elk corson facility and correct and the
product I like is FORESD Molts. They have a they
have a whole slew of like eight different mulches, Forest Fines,
Forest mult Playground Mix, Gardner Bloom Mulch. If you have kids,

(33:22):
I would buy the playground Mix exactly. So they have
a whole line of them. But they are a facility
that takes in green, runs it through a mulching process
and then you know, allow it, has it available for
you to come and pick up or they deliver it too.
And I will say, you know, for those of you

(33:43):
that don't understand this process too is you know there's
the companies out there that and and I support this,
but you know, the chip Drop which is basically teams
up with tree trimming companies and when somebody says, oh,
I want a load of multch, the tree trimming company
will come and drop it in their driveway for them

(34:04):
because it saves them from taking it to a dump
or yeah. Yeah, when you buy it from a facility,
you're just hopefully getting a little bit more of a
clean product because you might you know, out of the
back of a tree trimming truck. You know, they might
have thrown some.

Speaker 1 (34:22):
Weeds in there.

Speaker 3 (34:23):
You're going to some other debris in there where you know,
if you're getting it from a facility, hopefully they've composted
it a little bit. He treated it a little bit,
refined it a little bit and you can get a
little cleaner product from it.

Speaker 2 (34:37):
Got some good news out of Pakistan.

Speaker 3 (34:41):
Oh yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (34:42):
Our buddy, his Tom said that he's he's a proud
father because his son is starting his first semester as
horticulturist from Peshawar University, Pakistan.

Speaker 1 (35:00):
Wow, congratulate, congratulations absolutely.

Speaker 2 (35:02):
Yeah, well that's his dream to see his son.

Speaker 3 (35:07):
Who well act.

Speaker 2 (35:20):
Really Yeah, we were looking at those. We were looking
at the rooftop gardens from we had a hotel. Was
it from the hotel and on the balcony, I think
we spotted some because because in one direction was the

(35:40):
water the boats, and the other direction was the various
column condos or whatever that he had all the rooftop
gardens up there.

Speaker 3 (35:47):
So so the biggest thing with rooftop vertical garden that
people need to learn is nutrient I think, because that
is the one thing.

Speaker 1 (35:58):
That you know.

Speaker 3 (36:00):
Like we talk about all the time when I when
you plant a rose in this hillside of back here, John,
we might not think it's great soil, but there's still
a lot of nitrogen phosphorus POSH in that ground. Even
if you naturally neglected it, it's going to grow fine. Yeah,

(36:21):
pot rooftop gardens be heavy because otherwise it'll just cave
in the roof. So they're all designed to be lightweight,
very and so you have to recognize in the plant
what it's showing you doesn't need foster, need you know,
certain other micro nutrients, and then you have to supplement

(36:44):
that with some kind of liquid form of it to
be able to is So I think rooftop gardening is
like it's it's gonna be a whole nother science novel.
Yeah you know what I s Yeah, and you know
they do. You know that they have these meters for
grapes that can tell you the brick, which is like
the sweetness, the sweetness of the so I only imagine

(37:05):
they're going to have these little meters for your plants
that can tell you what you know, what it needs
you know, or what it happens, or.

Speaker 1 (37:11):
It'll tell you what that what whatever the soil content
is lacking or has too much of. Oh yeah, exactly.

Speaker 3 (37:17):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (37:17):
That reminds me of I think We've talked about this before,
but Hans Goobler was who pretty much I think revolutionized
the orchid business here in California actually the United States.

Speaker 1 (37:33):
Is he the one that delivered orchids to Raymond Burr?

Speaker 3 (37:36):
Yes? Yeah, right, but.

Speaker 2 (37:42):
Uh, Tiger you probably remember this, uh because it might
even still be going on today. They had three different
types of fertilizers for orchids, uh, starting with symbidiums and
going to other things. But the fertilizers would be this
is what you use when it's dormant, This is what

(38:05):
you used to get it to bud. This is what
you use it this time of year. So three different
ones and all different all different analysis.

Speaker 1 (38:13):
I think the to match the growth stages.

Speaker 2 (38:16):
Or supposedly, and I think like the blooming stage was
like a zero thirty zero something.

Speaker 1 (38:22):
It's like as much phosphorus as you can.

Speaker 2 (38:25):
Get, right, And he came out with his own fertilizer,
which I think was something like twenty three nine seventeen
or something that sounds like a football play, Yeah, something
close to the twenty.

Speaker 3 (38:36):
Three nine seventeen. Yeah. The waitress, by the way, is
bringing your coffee. Wo the wages you Oh no, it's
right full to the top. Isn't look at that? Geez,
that is a full cup of cars. Thank you, honey,
thank you, eggs over easy. Yeah, she's got that, I think. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (38:58):
So anyway, his was that, and I asked him, I said,
do you have the ones for the other times of
the year, And he said, no, this is all you need.
And I said, well, why don't you need the different formulas?
And he said that he spent two years taking leaf
and nutrient analysis of orchid.

Speaker 3 (39:17):
Leaves for.

Speaker 2 (39:20):
I think he did it once a month for two years.
And he said it never varied. Yeah, it was always
twenty three seven. And I'm just making this up because
I don't remember with twenty three seven nineteen.

Speaker 3 (39:32):
It's the same.

Speaker 2 (39:35):
Well, me, let's see Tiger Tanty says, and you might
know what I means.

Speaker 3 (39:51):
She likes the country club mulch, right, And that's one
of the types of mulch that they sell out of
that elkotos On facility there in Oceanside. So country club
is a great one. I think I would say it's
very similar to forest mulch. And it's actually, if I
remember correctly, a mix between the garden bloom and the
forest mulch. This is the country club. Fancy name for it. Yeah,

(40:15):
how about that. I was your coffee, you know what,
It's really good. Now.

Speaker 1 (40:19):
I've never drank a quart of coffee before.

Speaker 3 (40:23):
I'm gonna have to stop like four times for him
on the way back home.

Speaker 1 (40:26):
But it's very good.

Speaker 3 (40:28):
Use.

Speaker 1 (40:29):
I was thinking more of the size of what you
had there.

Speaker 2 (40:31):
But she didn't want it to get cold. Yeah, so
you can drink it till it gets cold.

Speaker 1 (40:36):
I appreciate that, and I'll make sure I empty myself
tiger before.

Speaker 3 (40:39):
We leave, you know. You know, to go back on
to John's point of you know, these ideas of products
that are put into the marketplace and and all of that. Now,
Number one, I would say even today that a lot
of what people do for gardening is based on their

(41:00):
own personal experiences and success and failures. You know, we
talk about little home remedies that people use, whether it's
you know, putting eggshells in the hole or or or
planting it during a full moon, or you know, all
of that stuff is going to be based on a lot.

Speaker 1 (41:20):
Somebody's going to say it works for me, yes, somebody
else says I would never.

Speaker 3 (41:24):
Do that, exactly and and you know with these you
know ideas like we just we what we want to
emphasize is that the baseline is if you're planting in
a garden, in the soil, there's a there's a ninety
percent chance that your plant's going to survive with just
you planting it, watering it, taking good care of it's

(41:45):
going to grow. You know. Yes, if you want it
to thrive, maybe you do this, or you change this,
or you add that. If you're wanting more production or
more blooms or more you know, whatever it may be.

Speaker 1 (41:59):
Are you happy just being student.

Speaker 3 (42:00):
Yeah, exactly, you know, but at the same time you
could be just as successful by by just putting on
that a little bit of extra care.

Speaker 1 (42:11):
Right, Look, this is a good time for a break,
all right, as we stay on time for the network.

Speaker 3 (42:15):
BIS Talk Radio Facebook Live. Thank you for joining us
broadcasting from John's property here in Fallbrook, California.

Speaker 1 (42:21):
Thank you so much. I'm Brian Maine, John Begnasco, Taga
Pola Fox. We got to pay some bills via BIZ
Talk Radio. Okay, back from the break here, Brian Maine,
John Begnasco, Tagipello Fox. You put those together at equals
Garden America and targraph for those watching on Facebook Live.
You were commenting and some of the lighting because of
the sun, yeah, which is now coming now? Is it

(42:42):
like this every day with the sun?

Speaker 3 (42:44):
John comes up every day here? Okay? And you know
what at all?

Speaker 1 (42:48):
Not just a special day for us.

Speaker 2 (42:49):
And because we're in California, it comes up in the east.

Speaker 3 (42:53):
Wow, when we're done, go around the other side of
the house. I'd like to see that. Well it's already,
I know, but we can't. I want to see it directly.
Imagine if we lived in a world where like it
wasn't on some kind of weird on a schedule. Wait,

(43:14):
coming up that day in Vegas? Odds? Yeah, come up
in the north today. What are the odds of that happening?

Speaker 2 (43:21):
I remember in high school we had a I had
a guy that was you know, in a high school,
you're kind of mischievous, and we had a guy that
was he was kind of trusting.

Speaker 3 (43:34):
Trust, naive. Yeah, oh I see, okay.

Speaker 2 (43:36):
But uh he had where oh he had gone to
Florida and came back and told us that he tried
surfing and that he really liked the ocean. We were
in Michigan, and he was saying how warm it was,
and he said he just really liked the waves because
they're so much bigger than.

Speaker 3 (43:57):
Lake waves, right, And.

Speaker 2 (44:01):
I just said, yeah, I said, isn't that weird though,
Like if you lived in Japan, the ways would be
going the other direction. He goes, what, I go, Yeah,
I said, when they get here, they're coming out shore.

Speaker 3 (44:14):
But there leave the beach.

Speaker 2 (44:15):
They're they're leaving. He goes, wow, I never thought of that. Yeah,
that makes sense.

Speaker 1 (44:21):
I want to get back just quickly to our conversation
before the break. We talked about, you know, Tiger and John,
what works for me and what I would never do.
Would you say that there are a lot of unnecessary
products on the market. In other words, there's the basics
of gardening, water, fertilize, maybe something to help instill the

(44:44):
soil with vitamins or whatever, But then you must have
ten thousand other things that you're like, come on.

Speaker 3 (44:50):
And.

Speaker 2 (44:51):
Is this are you making an analogy between this and
supplements and medicines?

Speaker 3 (45:00):
Okay, okay, yeah, sure, when.

Speaker 2 (45:02):
You're treating the garden and plants, the other you're treating people. Yeah,
And there's whatever people can sell.

Speaker 1 (45:08):
That they'll sell it because it's it's more money and
it and I think a lot of it has to
do with people not really fully understanding what they're doing,
lack of education. I mean, you can be a gardener
and do the basics and not really delve into layers
and layers of really you know what it takes and
still be successful. So those are the people they pray upon. Hey,

(45:28):
you need this, you think your plant looks good, Now
add some of this.

Speaker 3 (45:32):
Now.

Speaker 2 (45:32):
There used to be a fertilizer company in San Diego and.

Speaker 3 (45:39):
They came.

Speaker 2 (45:39):
They were one of the first people I think that
realized that, at least in dry fertilizers, that the more
SKUs that you had, the more shelf space you got.
And they were selling sweetpe fertilizer. I mean, how many
people need sweet fertilizer?

Speaker 3 (45:57):
Right?

Speaker 2 (45:58):
And how many sweet how many sweet peas need the
special fertilizers?

Speaker 1 (46:03):
Yes, which which means that whatever they were selling would
probably work on something else as well.

Speaker 2 (46:09):
Legitimate well, you know the the I've mentioned it before.
My idea on why people think roses are so difficult
to grow and why there's so many recommendations you can
search the internet, like how do I care for my
roses and come up with hundreds and hundreds of methods
and and the reason with fertilizing any plants is, I

(46:33):
think is the same thing that applies to roses, that
roses are so tough that they grow in spite of
what we.

Speaker 1 (46:39):
Do right, not because of what exactly right.

Speaker 2 (46:42):
So people are successful when they do something and then
they think, oh, it's because I did this, And then
you tell your friends, you know, they come over, how
do you have such nice roses?

Speaker 3 (46:53):
I'll say, oh, because they do this well. And I
might be shooting I might be shooting ourselves in the
foot right now, but I'm going to try to do
this as nicely as possible because you bring up a
very valid question. And we got an email this week
from a from a company that would like to be
on the show. Okay, and in what they're selling has

(47:15):
been proven fact. Okay, it's not false, but it's also
do we need this? You know? Do you do you
really need this product?

Speaker 1 (47:25):
What it is?

Speaker 3 (47:25):
It is a product that is a solar powered speaker
that you put in your garden and it has a
soundtrack that plays noises for your plants that are said
to promote growth and blooming and and it's proven fact
they've done the research right that you know, that's.

Speaker 2 (47:47):
The one that they said increases the thickness of the
cell walls and plants.

Speaker 3 (47:52):
I don't. I didn't really dive into what it is.
It is. It's it's you know, we've all seen the
research that I played music for my house plants and
they grow back. But this is specific. This is very
kind of noises and know that it shows on the website.
Like again, they want to be a part of the show,
So I'm not gonna I'm not going to say like,

(48:14):
I'm not going to say it because I don't.

Speaker 2 (48:16):
By the way, he hasn't signed his contract yet and
it's pretty big.

Speaker 3 (48:20):
Exactly said he'd listened to.

Speaker 2 (48:21):
The show today, right, But I mean no, in what
they're saying.

Speaker 3 (48:27):
What they're selling is fact it does benefit plants to
have sound and vibrations and all of that kind of stuff.
You know, they've done that research and in a lab
and they've proven that, so it is true. But it's like,
do you, as a as a gardener need this.

Speaker 1 (48:46):
When I noticed the difference if if we did like
a test where where that that bed over there had
no sound, no vibration.

Speaker 3 (48:53):
He said, you would.

Speaker 2 (48:54):
And as I recall, what fascinated me was that he
said he spent twenty to thirty years studying this.

Speaker 3 (49:03):
Yeah, this is not just like yeah, he just said
they are. But I couldn't.

Speaker 1 (49:07):
I have a hard time breathing for twenty or thirty
years or doing anything consistently that that's a lot of research.

Speaker 2 (49:13):
You're pretty consistent in the breathing.

Speaker 1 (49:15):
Now I've got that down. No, I'm making my point.
Is this, my goodness, really that long to come up
with something that it works?

Speaker 3 (49:24):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (49:24):
But did you change the world?

Speaker 3 (49:26):
Yeah? Well, I mean, you know, into him, you know,
and or to them like they did, because you know,
they feel they have a very important product that they
want to share and get out with the world. Because
it's going to benefit you as a gardener. The plant
plants are going to grow better. You're gonna get better production,
You're gonna get better.

Speaker 1 (49:44):
Growthky, here's my next question, because this is what I
do for a living job. Does it work for all
plants or certain individual plants or are there certain sounds
that are are better for a certain variety of plants?
In other words, is it just general for everything.

Speaker 3 (49:57):
And I think you just hit on the subject of fertilizers,
like I'm sure that you can sell well. Look at hey,
if you have house plants, play this soundtrack. If you've
got roses, play this. If you got a vegetable garden,
play this.

Speaker 2 (50:11):
There was an LP that came out in the sixties,
late sixties, which was the the earliest TEUs plant craze.
I guess well, Victorian Times was the earliest, but then
there was a house plant craze in the sixties and
they released an LP called Music to Grow Plants.

Speaker 1 (50:32):
I remember that. Yeah, yeah, exactly. We're going to take
a break as I look at the clock here to
stay in time for BIS Talk Radio. Any questions comments,
We are right here. We are broadcasting live from John's
place Wahlbert, California. Tiger pla Fox, John Bagnasco, I'm Brian Maine.
A break for our friends on bistok and we are back.
During the break, Tiger plays some nice soothing music for
us John and I feel better. Yeah, that was nice,

(50:54):
nice little break music.

Speaker 3 (50:56):
I guess I have talking to the minecraft.

Speaker 1 (50:58):
It's work.

Speaker 3 (50:59):
It's right there, I hear you.

Speaker 1 (51:00):
It's an option now, you know what's interesting with that
you could put all those sounds on your phone on
a bluetooth and then just hit a button and play
whatever sound you wanted.

Speaker 3 (51:09):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (51:10):
Well, also, how big an area with that cover right.

Speaker 3 (51:14):
The speaker the speaker right? Yeah, exactly, you know, I mean, hey,
these are all very valid and great questions. And and
again we went back to topics of of of of
what is on the marketplace for gardening that you know
you really need and then what is on the stuff
that's just Hey, I'm I'm interested in gardening, and these

(51:35):
are products that are going to help me. They're proven
to help me. But it's like, do I really need
them to garden? Do I really need it to grow
a plant?

Speaker 2 (51:43):
Well, Veronica in Spring Valley is pointing out that there's
people have different regiments for growing different plants.

Speaker 3 (51:51):
Yeah, and the one that she uses is survival of
the Fittest yep plant it if it works.

Speaker 2 (51:58):
By the way, our buddy, uh Baronica and Spring Valley's moving, She.

Speaker 3 (52:02):
Said, oh and where, Well that's I didn't catch that.

Speaker 2 (52:07):
If she did say so, we we hope she stays
in the area.

Speaker 3 (52:11):
Yeah, yeah, she said, she has lots of plants in pots.

Speaker 2 (52:14):
So those are going with her, I'm not really sure
where she's gone.

Speaker 3 (52:20):
Real quick has caught my eye in front of us,
for those of you that are watching the program, on
the table, John put a beautiful pot of impatience. And
then I always get these confused. Can you tell the difference?
Is this Scotch or Irish moss?

Speaker 2 (52:35):
Yes, it's Irish accombination of deep green right in Scotch is.

Speaker 3 (52:41):
The yes truths percte. Yeah, so okay, So Irish is
the deep green. Scotch is the tartruse.

Speaker 1 (52:49):
And as soon as they needed water they would wilt.

Speaker 2 (52:53):
And you know what, we just my wife had planted
that up and it had a double impatience in the
sun or that you didn't like. So we pulled it out,
put it somewhere else and and just happy just stuck
this in and this seems to be happy there.

Speaker 3 (53:10):
Yeah. Yeah, no, I I like the use of the
Irish Yes, yeah, I really like because it's it's got
that ferny kind of cascading look. I like the blooms
on it.

Speaker 2 (53:27):
They're not open right now, but white during the sum Yeah,
there's a little white, little white uh like drops that
are just scattered through it. Yeah, it's like moss dandruff lost.
But it's really cute, I think. Anyway, that was an
easy one for me to lift. The other one that
we had with the diplodinia was was pretty heavy.

Speaker 3 (53:50):
So yeah, I had that set up in our first
set up over there, but we changed that on you.
But you changed it, well, we know for next time.
You do have a lot of pots on your patio.
How often do you water the pots on the patio
if the weather's like this week daily?

Speaker 1 (54:08):
Okay, you walk up and down every aisle.

Speaker 2 (54:12):
No, the ones on the patio, those are all shannons. Okay,
but all right, if they die, it's my fault.

Speaker 1 (54:20):
I think, you know, just guilty of association because.

Speaker 2 (54:23):
I've got the hose out there, and you know, really,
why can't I just water it? Since I already have
those ye.

Speaker 3 (54:29):
Since already doing it right. I have a funny story
about some gardening mishap this week. So I have some
queen palms in my backyard and they're near the pool,
and so when they go to seed and flower, they
make a horrible mess in the pool. So I try
to catch the seed and flower before it opens. No

(54:51):
pool cover, no, no, pool covering all right, but I
try to catch the seed and flowers cycle before they open,
so that way I can just you know, take it
down not have to deal with a mess. And so
I was up there and I'm pulling off the seed
and flower Some people call them missiles because they're just
like these big elongated seed pods or flower pods, very

(55:12):
heavy by the way too. And I was pulling off
some of the fronds that were getting old, and I
have a plumeria that I really like down below it.
Trying to do my best to not have them fall
on the plume area. I failed, and one fell right
on the plumeri and kind of like broke it in half.
It is an oh no, I was not happy about that.

(55:33):
I was very disappointed.

Speaker 1 (55:34):
The one thing you were very aware of that you
didn't want to have happened.

Speaker 3 (55:37):
You know. But the beautiful thing about growing up plumeria
is that all I did was take those pop those
pop those cuttings into the into pods, and now I'll
have eight more of those in another year that are
going to be hopefully perfectly healthy. You're up on a
ladder when you're doing this, yes, yeah, yeah, it was
you know, Hey, I knew what I was doing, and

(56:00):
I knew the risk. But that is the beauty of
being a plumeria grower is that even your failures could
be successes in that way of you know, like if
you dropped a branch on your roses, it would break
apart your roses and you'd have to trim them up
and clean them up. But like, it wouldn't be easy
for you to just take cuttings of those roses and
then grow new ones.

Speaker 2 (56:20):
No, no, even though I do that all the time, Yeah,
it's not easy.

Speaker 1 (56:24):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (56:24):
So that's the beauty of growing a plumeria. Though.

Speaker 2 (56:28):
Cliff Oreent, who used to own your o desert roses
in Marongo Valley, you know, we've talked about it before
and how Marongo Valley was rose hell in my Yeah,
you were like.

Speaker 3 (56:42):
Why why did you start that way out here? Why
did you?

Speaker 2 (56:46):
And the winds there were so strong they would blow
the leaves off the plants, you know, for the flowers.
But anyway, he moved to uh Cathedral City.

Speaker 1 (56:58):
Right just from the outskirts upon same area.

Speaker 2 (57:01):
And brought a lot of his roses with them, and
then little by little stopped growing roses. I guess mainly
as they died and replaced them with plumeria. Really, and
he probably has two hundred plume area, two hundred different

(57:23):
are and and some of them. The reason I brought
it up because I were you talking about dropping things
on the plume area. He has plumeria that are fifteen
feet tall.

Speaker 3 (57:35):
Oh my goodness.

Speaker 2 (57:37):
So I'm surprised how well they do there because woul
don't you think it's definitely hot enough? Yeah, but wouldn't
you think it would get cold in the winter?

Speaker 3 (57:46):
Yeah, like you said, you know, I don't think it's
so much the heat because they had water and it's hot,
they don't mind that. But they're so full of liquid
right that when it's cold it freezes. And that's the
biggest issue is that that water in the plant is freezing.

Speaker 1 (58:03):
You would you would think it would kill it.

Speaker 2 (58:05):
And what's the success that's mind freeze here?

Speaker 3 (58:08):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (58:08):
You know I've lost I probably lost eighty per.

Speaker 3 (58:12):
What What's I mean? I don't know. That's that's the
funny thing. Like Joe, it's a great climate for it. Yeah,
but what about a night? What's is what's his answer
to that? What's he's doing? What he Yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (58:22):
Maybe maybe it's just something still has to answer for it.

Speaker 1 (58:26):
Yeah, I'm surprised you haven't. You're not, you know, on
the blower talking to him.

Speaker 3 (58:31):
I'm not. I'm not a big deal about our I
mean that to me.

Speaker 1 (58:39):
I want to know, what are you doing?

Speaker 3 (58:40):
Cliff? Yeah, I don't know. And you know, I will
say though that sometimes it's a little bit different, just
like it's a different heat, you know, heat, humidity, heat,
different dry heat. So maybe that freezing is different than
the freezing here where. Maybe it's a bit more of

(59:01):
a damp frow, you know, frost or does it not freeze? Yeah,
or does it not freeze? Maybe, I don't know. I
don't know.

Speaker 2 (59:07):
I don't know if anybody's listening listening in Cathedral City.

Speaker 1 (59:10):
Or listening, we're listening either way. Yeah, it's interesting. I
noticed my my big one in the paty is doing
really well. It loves the heat. It's just it's just.

Speaker 3 (59:22):
Like, yeah, are native to Mexico, right, baha baha, right?
Which you know, like you say, there's a lot of
like dry area one that do grow well and will
do that. But I don't know if they get cold,
you know, like you say, right, but they probably don't freeze. Interesting, Cliff,

(59:44):
We're intrigued by anybody who is growing plumeria in very
cold areas what they what they've seen, because maybe it
just requires them to become tough, you know, like maybe.

Speaker 1 (59:56):
After a season season they acclimate to the environment that
they're and.

Speaker 3 (01:00:00):
They harden off to be able to kind of go
back to.

Speaker 1 (01:00:03):
Our conversation about you know, leaving plants alone, they'll do
just fine for the most part.

Speaker 2 (01:00:06):
Paula and Fallbrook has a good idea. Just says water
with any freeze, there you go. The Paula also mentions
that if she could just control the critters, rabbit, rabbits, gophers, squirrels,
so many things this year got eat.

Speaker 1 (01:00:23):
Well, that's that's when you live in Fallbrook. It's one
of the areas.

Speaker 2 (01:00:26):
I mean, you know, I really empathize with her.

Speaker 3 (01:00:29):
Yeah. As a matter of fact, they have a rose
called empathy. Really.

Speaker 1 (01:00:33):
Yeah, sorry, you bought it.

Speaker 2 (01:00:35):
No, No, I'm glad I bought it. It's one of
Berlin Leong's creations. It's one of the newer ones I got.
But yeah, you know, I told the story at the
beginning of the show about the rabbit and then the squirrels,
and it's.

Speaker 1 (01:00:48):
Just we're gonna take a break gophers.

Speaker 2 (01:00:50):
Fortunately, the gophers have been pretty much under control.

Speaker 1 (01:00:52):
It's because the words out what you do to them.
We're going to take a break. We have our final
segment coming up after these messages on bistalk. Ready, you know,
having a good time. Thank you for hanging in there.
This is Garden America. And again in one more segment,
one more break back after these messages. Alrighty, the if
it's a horse race, the final furlong.

Speaker 3 (01:01:11):
Right, what is a furlong one lap? Or is it
just a straightaway?

Speaker 1 (01:01:17):
John? You've been on horses quite a bit, John, at.

Speaker 2 (01:01:20):
The long was a navel measurement the final turn.

Speaker 1 (01:01:27):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:01:27):
I don't know what's going to jump in there. We're
just having funds. Yeah, that's exactly not how many knots
are you going? Which is different than land speed. And
here comes the helicopter that looks like an important helicopter.

Speaker 2 (01:01:41):
It's going you know why, You're like, it's not hot
in the air conditioning your purpose?

Speaker 3 (01:01:47):
Yeah, so you're working today. I'm not working. I'm working
in the yard today. My goal today is to uh
check the irrigation on the bed next to the pool,
and things are going really well there, So I'm thinking

(01:02:07):
I can kind of decrease the irrigation, like lower the amount,
and so we'll see, Oh look at that guy saw
us and is now going to be looping.

Speaker 1 (01:02:17):
What are they doing out there?

Speaker 3 (01:02:19):
Can I wonder if our listeners can hear the helicopter?
Oh yeah, that's pretty loud. Yeah, that they turned right
over your home, Like do you is your is your
home like a flight path? Yea, Like everybody's like turn
at this house right here with the roses all in
the front yard.

Speaker 2 (01:02:38):
Well you see over to the north west over there,
the big rock mountain is Yeah, that's Camp Pendleton in
the area that's to lose.

Speaker 1 (01:02:47):
Gotcha, yeah, big that white rock mountain, that's Camp Pendleton.

Speaker 3 (01:02:50):
Well on the other side, on the other side. Yeah,
you hear the marine.

Speaker 2 (01:02:55):
Oh yeah, the house shakes sometimes from them exploding.

Speaker 3 (01:03:02):
Ideah you imagine it echoed all the way through the
valley like that. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:03:10):
Carlos reminding me that we did not answer her question
on the secret rose.

Speaker 1 (01:03:17):
That's it's a secret we can't is the you can't
answer that over.

Speaker 2 (01:03:21):
The air, Remember the question I know because I passed
it and you forgot it. I was getting ready to
answer it, and then Brian distracted me. And now now
for some reason, I can't go back.

Speaker 3 (01:03:36):
What is the secret rose? What was Is that the
name of the rose? The secret Oh, that's.

Speaker 1 (01:03:41):
The one that Oh yeah, gosh. We just had this
conversation not more than five minutes ago, and I said, oh,
are you sorry?

Speaker 2 (01:03:52):
I'm sorry now that's Brenda Lee.

Speaker 3 (01:03:55):
Oh.

Speaker 2 (01:03:56):
I don't know why I can't go back. Her question
was about pruning scroll up.

Speaker 3 (01:04:02):
I can't. You can't go up? Well, no, they I
have to go back. What was her question though? Pruning roses?

Speaker 2 (01:04:13):
Yeah, it was pruning her secret rose. If I recall
Carl I and let us know if it If it's not,
I'm not correct, but I think she wondered if she
could prune her rose now, cut it way back so
that it would come out with a nice bloom, nice

(01:04:33):
blooms in the fall.

Speaker 1 (01:04:35):
And because normally it's too early to cut back.

Speaker 3 (01:04:39):
No, just because she wants to know, can I hard
prune it now?

Speaker 1 (01:04:45):
Yes?

Speaker 3 (01:04:45):
Because I can't turn the camera right now. But John,
you know the roses.

Speaker 1 (01:04:51):
John just did that right in front of us, just.

Speaker 3 (01:04:53):
Hard pruned all of them. Not one leaf is left
on the rose, just look like spring, right, yes.

Speaker 1 (01:04:59):
Yes, exactly, And I think, you know what, I think
I'm going to do that when I get home this weekend,
because I've been looking at my roses and.

Speaker 3 (01:05:04):
I'm like, yeah, they look tired. They do look tired.

Speaker 2 (01:05:07):
Yeah, yeah, you can cut them back now. And I
think we were talking about earlier. The general rule of
thumb is six weeks yep to bloom. So I think
that's what I'll do. Usually people want to know about
I want these roses in bloom for the wedding. Yeah,
you know if you're having six week Yeah, so approximately
six weeks. And it depends on the time of year, right, tiger,

(01:05:29):
because in the summer you have longer days. In early
spring and late fall the days get shorter, So uh,
it's going to might require a little more.

Speaker 1 (01:05:43):
Time, right as far as like the grow back.

Speaker 2 (01:05:45):
Right, So maybe like seven weeks.

Speaker 3 (01:05:47):
But I will say the beauty of roses is compared
to some other plants out there. Hard pruning. You know,
A big reason why some people get scared of hard
pruning in the summertime is when you open up.

Speaker 1 (01:05:59):
The light to the stem of the plant.

Speaker 3 (01:06:01):
Very dangerous, it'll burn it, right roses, that doesn't happen though,
I think that, you know what, it depends where you
are real desert, it will happen, it would, Yeah, and
you need the foolish just shaded a little bit.

Speaker 2 (01:06:13):
Right, right, And that's true with some trees too.

Speaker 1 (01:06:16):
Yes, I think that looks so good. I think that's
a good that's like a fresh air cut. That just
looks it just I love.

Speaker 3 (01:06:22):
I love how Brian's like, that looks so good. It's
there's not a leaf on it. No, there's only thorns showing.
That's wonderful. It's like it's like, you know, you get
you get a puppy and you see that the puppies
got the big paws, and you say, he's gonna grow
into a nice big dog. I can tell that just
looks like that rose is gonna be hill. That's a

(01:06:43):
healthy cutback look at that. But so so you know.
But but you know, with the roses, it's nice that
you can do hard prunings because you don't have to
worry too much about the stems getting burned. You know,
they're very you know, hardy, and they can tolerate some sunlight.
But you know, as John mentioned in the desert word
does get you still want to shade the plant.

Speaker 1 (01:07:01):
A little bit. A couple of minutes to go, guys,
Just to keep you on track ahead.

Speaker 3 (01:07:05):
John, before the show's over. I thought we just started.
This was first segment number one, wasn't it?

Speaker 1 (01:07:12):
Talking about where are we?

Speaker 3 (01:07:15):
Happens when you get older? Right?

Speaker 2 (01:07:17):
Kevin was mentioning Kevin and Cordelaine was saying that you
should experiment with the different types of music and see
what they like.

Speaker 1 (01:07:26):
At the hard rock, heavy metals, classical.

Speaker 3 (01:07:28):
I think that's all been done. It's all been done before. Yeah,
with the different kind kinds of muss and uh.

Speaker 2 (01:07:35):
Veronica mentioned that the Rockefeller Rose would probably like heavy metal.

Speaker 3 (01:07:40):
Hey, real quick, I don't know how much time this
we got about a minute. We got a missus an
easy one for you, Kevin says, is there roses that
don't have thorns? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:07:49):
Yeah, I don't green planet. I don't have thorns on
my green planet.

Speaker 2 (01:07:52):
A lot of florist roses don't have thorns for obvious reasons, right,
They try to breed them that way. And then there's
a line of pros is that Harvey Davidson came out
with called they they're all called smooth like smooth.

Speaker 3 (01:08:13):
Yeah, we got a roll. Yeah, and anyway to answer
your questioned him and then you cut him off. All right, well.

Speaker 2 (01:08:20):
Kevin just yes, the answer is yes, Google thorn Less Rowst.

Speaker 1 (01:08:23):
There you go.

Speaker 3 (01:08:24):
You'll come on.

Speaker 1 (01:08:24):
We gotta stay on time. Thank you for joining us, Tiger,
Good job, John, I.

Speaker 2 (01:08:28):
Keep telling you.

Speaker 3 (01:08:29):
Let's do three hours.

Speaker 1 (01:08:30):
Okay, and and this and the last hour just for
us and those that care. Enjoy the rest of your weekend.
We don't know where we're going to be next week.
Well we'll figure something out.

Speaker 3 (01:08:38):
Kid. Be back at the nursery for the entire crew.
John Back, Nascar, Tucket, Pella Fox, I'm Brian Man. Enjoy
the rest of your weekend, stay cool'll be safe, and
we'll do it again next week. Thank you for hanging
in there. This has been and always will be Guard
in America. Take care,

All Episodes

Live from John's Garden House - Garden America Podcasts & Radio Show [8.9.25]

Episode Transcript

Popular Podcasts

Stuff You Should Know

Cardiac Cowboys

The Joe Rogan Experience

.css-15opob5{left:0;position:absolute;top:0.8rem;} All Episodes

.css-14f5ked{margin:0;word-break:break-word;display:-webkit-box;-webkit-box-orient:vertical;box-orient:vertical;-webkit-line-clamp:2;overflow:hidden;}Live from John's Garden House - Garden America Podcasts & Radio Show [8.9.25]