Name That Rose with Robin Jennings - Garden America Podcasts & Radio Show [6.1.24] - Garden America - Gardening Podcast & Talk Radio Show

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Hey, Well, there you are. If you're watching us on Facebook Live,
if you're tuned in on BIS TalkRadio, we are here. You
can hear the audio. I'm BrianMain. Of course, there's a John
Begnasco, Tiger Pella Fox. Welcometo the weekend. Hope you had a
good week. We are back inthe saddle. We've got a great guest
lined up today. We are rested, we are ready to go. You're
all looking good. And with thatin mind, Tiger, how is your

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week? What's going on? We'vegot a radio show to do. We're
gonna talk about gardening. You know, I had a great week because it's
it's nice easing into the summer.You know, we've had we've had this
really nice weather in the sense ofit hasn't gotten too hot. We've had
some wonderful afternoons of sunshine and warmweather. But we wake up in the

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morning with a slight cloud cover,maybe even a little drizzled drizzle this morning.
Yeah exactly. Aren't you waiting forthe shoe to drop? Well,
we know it's gonna happen, soI'm fine with it holding out. But
it is, but it is creatingsome havoc at the nursery because we're very
slow for the spring, so meaningnormally we're much busier before now, but

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we haven't been busy. People haveto find something to do. Yeah,
why don't you clean that out?Why don't you get rid of all that
junk in the shed, all thethings, the side jobs that nobody wants
to do. It's like in arestaurant when the waitresses have to fill up
the ketchup bottles in the mustard,you know, or like the salt you
know, ry the salt shakers exactly. So the average person would come in
this time of the year to thenursery to buy what what are they looking

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for in June? Well, that'sthe thing, is where you're done.
I mean, you know what youwere looking for was what you should have
been planting two three, four weeksago, tomatoes, the veggies, the
herbs, the flowers, because inJune that stuff should all be in the
ground, it should all all begrowing because now we're going to get the

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heat, which you know, youwant that material established, you want it
already growing. So that way,the rest of the June month, it's
warm, it's growing, it's flowering, and then you know, for a
lot of these crop type plants nowthey're actually fruiting in July and you know
through August. Nadi is not alwaysthe best thing to live your life when

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it comes to gardening. What spontanatespati deciding I'm going to do this,
you should have done it two orthree months ago. Well, that's the
biggest thing with that is pumpkins.People come in in October and they say,
hey, I would like to planta pumpkin, and I'm like,
great, you're about four and ahalf months late. Don't you sympathize with
them? Though? Why would youmake fun of he says, He goes,

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Oh, that's cute. You wanta pumpkin in October when it should
have been planted back in what May? It should? Yeah, exact me,
Yeah, yeah, probably. Yeah. But you know, the the
encouraging part of what you're saying,Tiger is because the weather is overcast,
even if you you are a procrastinator, there's still time now to go out

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and do things right. Yeah.You you know it's in when you do
do the things right now, orif you were early, it's easier on
you. It's so hard to plantin the sun and the heat and actually
get things to take root. Butif you plant them now, when you
got a little bit of cloud,a little bit of drizzle, it's a
lot easier. Yeah, And usuallywhen you water the ground of your pots

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will stay wet a little bit longeras well. Exactly. Lisa says that
it was ninety eight yesterday and it'sgoing to be one hundred and eight next
week. And where she I thinkshe's in reading. Okay, Yeah,
they're getting they're getting hit hard.Yeah, I mean we go inland.
I mean even John, even who'sin Fallbrook, gets a coastal influence because

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he's not that far inland, youknow what I mean. I guess he'd
be on the Cusp, right,I mean he would be considered inland,
I think by all terms, thirteenmiles from the coast. Right. But
you guys, I mean, youknow that we're in the tomato field.
We're not in a valley, youknow, like Temeculus Valley or Escondido the

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Hidden Valley. You know, we'rekind of at a little higher elevation,
so we always have the ocean influence, the breeze. Yeah, I told
you a couple of weeks ago.You know, Alexa gives you updates on
various things. We get high surfadvisories in Script's ranch. Well see,
and I would say, you're noteven inland. No, you're on the

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custom basically, but we're far fromthe beach. I don't you know why
it's advisory because she's not really thatsmart. That's just artificial and telling you
know how busy she is. Shesits in this big room, she has
to play music for people, Shehas to answer the questions. The phones
are ringing. I wouldn't want thatjob. Kids are getting asking silly questions
all the time. Carlos says sheliked the quote of the week. Oh

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good, we should you know.I think this would be a good time
to read that for those that haveheard it, want to hear it again
with those that have never heard it, and we're going to surprise them with
it. Okay, the quote wasfrom Dale Carnegie. I like his hall.
I think that was Andrew what thecarnegiese? You know how they are?
Uh? What did? What wasthe book? He wrote? Oh?

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How to win influence people, howto win friends and people? Right?
He said that one of the mosttragic things I know about human nature
is that all of us tend toput off living. We're all dreaming of
some magical rose garden over the horizoninstead of enjoying the roses that are blooming
outside our windows today. That istrue. And you another quote that's sort

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of like that. Life is whathappens when you're busy doing something else.
That was his quote. That wasJohn Lennon, John, Oh, life
is Dale Carnegie like it meaning meaningyou're looking at something else when you meanwhile
everything else is passing you by.Yeah, exactly, you know, stop
and smell the roses. Do youhave a have a second? So I

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went to a Dale Carnegie seminar likea class. The best thing that I
learned from one of the from thatcourse was they put us back to back
and in front of one of usthere was a picture made with shapes,
triangles, squares, rectangles, differentcolors, different sizes, okay, and

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then the other person had all theshapes in front of them. So the
person that had the image in frontwas trying to describe to the other person
how to put it together. Butyou had to say, you know,
the small triangle, the red triangle, the this that where the right,
the left, all of this stuffto kind of put this image together,
and it was a great example ofhow what someone else sees and then what

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they say they see could be differentto what someone else is hearing and then
actually doing. And I was like, this is a great example of miscommunication,
you know. For it was formanagers, and so it was that
idea that if you want your staffto do something, you have to really
be clear on what you want,because otherwise they're here the same thing that

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you're saying, but they hear itcompletely. You know what. Some people
are visual, some people are audioin terms of how they interpret things.
Here's another experiment that people have donemany times. You get a circle of
people, let's say ten people ina circle, right, so you and
John's next to you, and youtell John something okay, and that person
in turn tells the next person.But a time it gets back to you,

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it's completely different. Yeah, orit's not exactly what you said,
yeah, exactly. Well they've donethat also with eyewitness you know, like
an eyewitness, yeah, now abank robber, and when they find out,
you know, they've got a videoof what the person actually looked like
or what actually happened, and they'vegot ten eyewitnesses and they're they're all different,
they're all different. Well, that'llbe the fun thing because today Robin

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Jennings joining us from Heirloom Roses.Right, we're gonna be talking about the
name the Rose competition for one ofJohn's contests. Not really a competition contest,
yeah, I mean in a competition, are similar? I guess?
Yeah, we're competing, but ina way. But what the cool thing
about it is, see, peopleare gonna see this and then they're gonna
come up with their own interpretation ofwhat they see and put a name on

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it. John, what's the famousquote we always the Paul Simon that we
love to go back to. Man, here's what he wants to hear in
disregards the rest exactly, even ifit's right in front of you. Yeah.
But it'll be fun because now we'llget everybody's little ideas on the same
thing. You know what what isgood is, especially for people who are
going to be listening to this onthe radio, which is next week,

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right, we're live a week earlieron Facebook, you'll be able to get
some information that people who are gettingnewsletters from Marylyn won't get because we'll describe
the rose a little bit and Idon't know that's true. Huh Yeah,
I don't think that description is goingto be in their at least in their

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literature, Ivan Sena, but we'llfind out. And just to let you
know, just to add to theteas, I learned from Robin that this
is an exclusive contest for This wasexclusively for their VIP members at Heirloom Roses.
But we are getting we are goingto share that link to our listeners

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and viewers to be able to participate. But this isn't open to everyone.
So it's a special, unique groupof people. Exactly. Well, I'm
not sure what it takes to become, hey, one of those special people
at our elite, elite, theelite, but I if I'm not mistaken,
Robin told me they sent out twohundred and fifty thousand emails. Hey,

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they've got a lot of follow ups. I still think it's everyone.
It's a quarter of a million,John, Exactly, it is quarter of
a million. Yeah, that's allright. It only takes one person to
win, and I think they've gotsome second place prizes. I think that's
the motto of the California Lata.It takes one person and our schools win
too. I haven't heard our schoolswin too, honeymore no, because they're

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not really winning right with all theproblems. All right, no comment?
Well what do you think should wetake a break? You want to ease
on into this break? Here?We get a little time. Do we
still have time? No? Wehave thirty seconds. Maybe I know that
the first prize is going to bea two hundred and fifty dollars gift certificate

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two or just really yeah, it'sa lot of beneficial insects, roses,
all kinds of stuff that they havethere. I'm a beneficial insect. You
know what? That would be great? You're nothing but a beneficial insect.
Just walk up randomly to somebody nexttime you see them. Well, I

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don't even know why you would sayit like that, because beneficial insects are
good, I know, so youwould want to say it in an uplifting
way. But if you say it, if you say it negatively, like
we talked about how it's going tobe interpreted, you're nothing but a beneficial
insteed, like going to Mother Teresaand saying you're nothing but a saint exactly.

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And on that note, we're goingto take a break back with our
guest. This is Garden America.Okay, we are back. It is
Garden America. Of course we're notgoing to change that anytime soon. Brian
Main and John Bacnasco Tiger Pellafox allthe business out of the way, talked
about the newsletter briefly, the quoteof the week, and now Tiger Robin
is ready to go. Yeah.This morning we have Robin Jennings joining us
from Heirloom Roses. Airlom Roses producesand sells a wide variety of really unique

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and fun roses online and also otheritems we've had Heirloom on before it Robin.
Just within the month we had anotherperson from Heirloom that was talking beneficial
insects and you know, you guysput together that really fun program where you
can help people introduce beneficial insects intothe garden. Is there anything Heirloom doesn't

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do? Good morning guys. Yeah, Randy was on your show just a
little while ago. He's great.Yeah, the Beneficial Insects new program has
been really wonderful for us. Personally. I love gardening, I don't love
the bug aspect of it so much. So when it's time to ship the
bugs, I try to stay awayfrom the shipping department as much as possible.

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But it's been a really great success, and it's been wonderful just to
be able to get these beneficials intohome gardener's hands who before couldn't order them
because they would have to order massiveamounts of them. So it's been a
really fun program. Yeah, whata neat thing that you guys are putting
together. But today we're talking roses. Heirloom roses. Roses a large producer

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and seller of really fun types,styles, varieties. I would say one
of the largest selections of roses inthe entire country, would you, Yeah,
Yeah, Okay, So it's aboutto get bigger too, thanks John.
Yeah, so a variety of reasons, not only I mean John's great

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rose that he's given us to beable to propagate and sell, but we've
actually just wrote the Chelsea Flower Showand we have new agreement with Harkness Roses,
so we're going to be bringing alot of new Harkness roses here to
the US market in the next coupleof years, which is really exciting.
And we've connected with a new hybridizer, new to US hybridizer, Bradjlbert in

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British Columbia, Canada who grows somereally amazing Flora bundas and some grand of
Flora's with just his foliage is soincredible. I'm really excited for these new
blooms that will be starting to introduceto the market in twenty twenty five.
Now, quick question, kind ofin subject but off topic. Have you

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guys seen any kind of shift inthe past couple of years of roses from
you know, are people more intoFlora bundes, hybrid teas, grandiflora,
you know? Have you seen anychange or has it been pretty steady,
you know, for the past fewyears. Yeah, I think since you
know, COVID and the lockdown,we've seen a huge increase overall, as

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I'm sure you've noticed in gardening ingeneral. But cut flower roses, so
anything with those long stems via afloor abunda or a hybrid tea or whatever
that someone can get some gorgeous longstem blooms off of those seem to be
flying off the shells much faster thansome of the old garden varieties or some
of the hard to find ones thatwe do carry. It just seems like

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your Earth angel Eden, you know, new dawns. Some of those climbers
that have really good cut flowers,those seem to be going really quickly lately.
Okay, so people are more focusedon growing a rose they can bring
inside or enjoy it. That's yes, absolutely, it's kind of It's kind
of interesting how trends shift with time, you know, I mean, you

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know, all it takes is forone thing to kind of change and now
all of a sudden they're more intoyou know, a shrub rose or you
know, like you're seeing a cutrose or a climber or something like that.
And you know, so let's talkabout the introduction that John has has
put together for you guys. Canyou tell us a little bit about number

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one? What is the contest?What is the contest you guys are putting
together? Sure? Yeah, wewere really excited because John so grateful he
offered to let us have a contestto name the rose, which I mean,
to name a rose is a prettyrare thing for a nursery to get.
In general, I think a lotof people have reached out to us
going could you name a rose formy aunt whomever? And it's like we

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don't often get roses since we're notactually actively hybridizing right now. So we
are going to open this up toyour listeners, of course, and to
our VIP as I heard you talkingabout our customers to suggest rose names for
about from June tenth to June seventeenthis when they're going to be able to
submit those names to us. We'llnarrow it down to the top ten choices

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and then open it up to thepublic and to our email list, which
is now upwards of three hundred thousand, I believe, and everyone will get
to vote on their favorite name,and whose ever name is chosen as the
winner, as John said, isgoing to win not only the rose,
but also a two hundred and fiftydollars gift card to Airloin Roses, and
five people who vote for the winningRose name will be drawn at random and

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they'll also win the rose that willbe shipped out in the spring of twenty
five. How fun is that thatyou might have the opportunity to say you
named that rose, You were theone that created a name for that specific
rose. Can you read Brian's mindright now? He's wondering, am I
void work prohibited? He's he's gonnaHe's wondering how many times you could submit

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a name. I think it's fivetimes, isn't it? It is five
times? And we do have acouple of caveats. No proper names,
no vulgarity, no cursing. Please, I'm out, But I mean,
but I mean, how cool wouldthat be to be able to be in
your yard and somebody's like, oh, what colors the rose? Again?

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John? It's a very very lightpink and then in the heat it turns
white. Okay, So they're lookingat it and let's say it's pink and
they say, oh, you knowwhat, what's the name on that pink
rose? And it's oh, it'syou know, pink whatever, And like,
why was the one that named thatrose? And now everybody else has
it because I was able to createthat name. Well, you know,

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we offered our listeners that we weregoing to give them some inside tips because
if you look at the picture,that's unless it changes. But the last
picture I saw on the heirloom websiteshowed a close up of the rose,
but what it didn't show was thatthere's masses of blooms, so the whole
plant is covered. You can barelyeven see the leaves when it's in full

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bloom. So you've got these terminalclusters of dozens of flowers that just cover
the plant. So that might giveyou some idea too. If you're looking
for a name, can tell usa little bit about how it grows,
John, Well, it's a polyantha. A lot of the roses that I
breed are polyanthas. And I thinkwe've told the story before about the reason

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I got into breeding polyanths was wewent Jackson and Perkins and I saw that
they had three hundred thousand seedlings tochoose from. And I'm thinking, Okay,
I've got fifteen seedlings. How canI compete to introduce a hybrid tea
with Jackson and Perkins? And thenI realized there's no polyanth roses here,

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So I thought, you know,I can compete with nothing. So I
started breeding polyanthas and I came upwith a few and one is sold at
Heirloom Roses and I know a lotof our listeners already have it. But
Kendall Marie is just I was shockedat my Kendall Marie rose this spring because

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it's the most flowers I've ever seenon a plant in my whole life.
You know, before we go on, because we got all kinds of things
that we can We got about aminute to the break, talk to Robin
about and also if any of ourlisteners have questions on Delia's or as a
Delia breeder. Yeah. But oneof the things that I wanted to mention

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is I heard a rumor and becauseI'm old, I can't remember the details,
but I think that Robin lived inEurope for a while and actually taught
school over there or went to schoolover there. I did. I lived
in Scotland for a bit and didsome student teaching over there, just outside

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Edinburgh. Ah. And so youknow, let's take a break before we
Okay, yeah, hold that thought, Robin. Everyone hold that thought as
we take a break here for BIZTalk Radio. And again, as Tiger
mentioned, John mentioned any questions forRobin, let us know what we have
around the air this morning. GardenAmerica, Brian Main, John Begnascar,
Tuck at Pela Fox a break forBIS Talk Radio. Back after these messages.
Okay, we have returned from thebreak, thanking those that had tuned

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in on BIZ Talk Radio each andevery week, and of course are fantastic
Facebook Live crowd. All the peopletuned in here to your garden buddies on
Garden America. We are talking rosestoday a lot of interest and perhaps you'll
learn some things you didn't know priorto the show as we can. Jane,
you Tiger, I want to getback to our conversation with Robin.
Yeah, so we're talking with RobinJennings from Heirloom Roses. And for our

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listeners, now, I did justpost the link to the name the Rose
Contest so they can see the rose. They can see the information on the
name the Rose Contest and it takesthem to the Heirloom Roses website. Now,
you know, before the break,Robin john had mentioned your involvement with

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Dahlia's and Heirloom does more than justroses. What are some of the other
plants that Heirloom sells online? Absolutely, we just started this year. We
launched a whole collection of perennials,and we've done roadies in the past and
a couple things like that, butnow we've got lilax and yarrow and thyme

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and Minarda and Salvia Ekadasia speedwell tonsof stuff. So we've got a whole
collection of perennials right now. Andin the fall. We just finished our
bulb collection that will be posting verysoon, so customers can order their fall
bulbs us as well. And howhow I mean, how do people get
these items? Are they? Arethey four inch plants? Are they plugs?

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You know? Do you guys shipthe are you planning to ship these
year round? Are these just seasonal? You know? On the premios are
seasonal, So they're shipping right now. We'll be shipping probably through July for
these and majority of them are ingallon pots. We like to do everything
in industry standard gallon size. There'sa few four inch pots, but those

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usually come in tacks of like ourSeedom coming a pack of four o.
Everything ships pretty much in the sameboxes as the roses do, so you
can order your roses and your perennialstogether. Okay, perfect? And so
you say it's seasonal right now andthen and then you guys will shift.
Did you say you guys kind ofhave a bulb collection coming up? Yes?
Okay, yes we did. Wedid last year as well, but

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this year we've spanded it a littlebit more, so we'll have tulip staff
at Hills. I got to justgo crazy picking all these beautiful followers.
So I'm looking forward to shipping themout to customers and taking some home too.
Do you do you guys have anydahlias. We don't do Dallians yet,
I know, and that's like,that's my sweet spot. So hopefully
in the future we might be doingsome dalias, but not quite yet.

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I love dalias too, Robin.So I planted a number of dahlias here
in San Diego, and you know, it's tough here for us with the
dahlias, but I I love tohave them in the garden. And then
they every once in a while surpriseme because they'll just try to come up
at a random time of year.And who do you remember, John,

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was it last week or something?And somebody asked us a question and they
said their dalua was was coming upor growing or something, and they were
asking, is it the right timeof year? And we're like, no,
no, do you remember who thatwas? I can't remember remember the
convers You remember the conversation that wasover that was about a month ago,
because now's the time they should be, but yeah, it was earlier or

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something, and and you know,I just love being able to put them
in the garden then just seeing howthey do. But I'll talk about a
fun pretty plant and talk about cutflowers if if people are interested in cut
flowers, having dallias wonderful. Well, you know, Robin has Her is
a breeder of dahlia, and she'sgot a kind of the one you sent

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me. The picture of it hada little bit of coffee color to it,
didn't it. Yeah, it's calleda prairie home Judith Ann, which
is my mother's name. It's atricolored dahlia, which isn't super common,
so it's kind of mocha color,was a little bit of pink and yellow
edging. It's real pretty. SoI've got a ton of them, just
planted out a few weeks ago.Here. I used to plant on Mother's

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Day. That's my gifts from mychildren to me. Everyone helps me plants.
Oh really, you're like, You'relike, hey, if you guys
want to give me. Were mygateway into gardening. I started with it's
just one or two tubers one yearto see what happened, and I became
obsessed and I think this year Iput upwards the three hundred in my yard.
So my husband is happy that thelawn keeps disappearing and he is less

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and most that's funny. They havea they have an echinasia uh on heirloom
roses. I think it's called greenTwister. Such a beautiful, such a
fun flower as far as different,you know, I mean when you when
you think of you thinking of thatclassic kind of pinky, yeah, pinky,

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purple ish, you know, verypretty flower. But the green Twister
has two shades of color on theactual petals. You know, looks like
a lot of fun something, youknow. So a lot of unique perennials.
These aren't just you know you youknow when you mentioned the list,
Robin, you know, there area lot of common things that people would
know. You said, yaa,but it's unique. Yarrows, different ones

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and do you guys sell them,like you said, in gallons? But
are they is it they can dolike packs as well or is it just
kind of individuals one of the smallerplants we sell in pacts, but most
of the plants are just individual ones. Yeah, this was a joy.
I actually got to go through andpick the majority of these plants. So
try to come up with a reallygood variety of like the common you know,
the beautiful colors. Everybody would justblend with roses, but also some

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real pop and wow statement pieces tooawesome. Yeah, lots of good stuff.
Did you have a question, Johnny, No, I was just gonna
mention Lilah and POWI wants to knowif she'll get to see the rose.
And I was thinking for like actuallyin life that well, because I supposted
the link to take her to thepicture right right. But what I'll do

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is for our listeners is I'll bringin a bouquet next week. Oh there
you go, so wonderful. Nextweek is when the the they're going to
start. Yeah, the contest isgoing to start, so you'll get to
see what it looks like in person. Yeah, and actually should should be
posted on her webs tight as well. Picture. No, we've got a

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link to Okay, uh, youknow, maybe I don't. You don't
have any can still they're all theyours are in the ground. I only
have one plant. What it's inthe ground, but hopefully there'll be more
than one planet an heirloom, andyou'll be able. We already have in
my observation greenhouse at the nursery,and we already have about six or seven
that I just have there so Ican look at them and monitor them.

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And it roots so beautifully. AndI was just last week trying to count
the number of blooms per stem,and I think I was averaging twenty five.
Oh wow, it's really ful.And I love that when she fades
to that light, like you weretalking about, the streaks of pink almost
leave like starburst patterns on the flowers. It's just beautiful. So I'm really

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excited to share this with everybody.Yeah, that's fun. That's fun.
You got a You got a goodone there, John, Well, you
know, it surprised me. I. Robin was at the San Diego Rose
Show. Was it three years agonow, Robin, I'm trying to member,
But it won best seedling there,and I really didn't think much of
it because at the time, beinga seedling, it wasn't a very big

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plant, so I didn't know whatit would do when I put in the
ground. And I was really surprisedat the performance in the ground. Hey,
hey, Robin, I get aquestion regarding their heirloom rose rose selection.
How often or how many roses doyou guys kind of introduce in your
collection every year? Yeah? Great, question. So we have about nine

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hundred varieties on our site right nowthat we are actively growing and propagating from.
Obviously, this year we've done tonsof sales. We've partnered with both
Costco and Magnolia this year, sowe have been selling a little faster than
we anticipated. But next year we'rekind of starting something new where we do
our introductions. We're being really intentionalabout the quality of the roses, making

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sure that these are like super diseasefree. Like that's Randy's domain. He
is so obsessive about genetically testing allthe plants. But we're making sure that
we're introducing not only new roses tothe public that have never been seen before,
but also new to us roses.And I've made a commitment to start
bringing back some of the older andhard to find roses that maybe we have
in the stock fields but haven't beenavailable for a decade or two. So

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we've got a really good mix ofupwards of twenty varieties next year coming back
either new new to us or hardto find roses we're bringing back. Well
that's fun, and I mean,you know, it's so neat to go
with the hard to find roses aswell. Because they have a story behind
them. Usually, yeah, andif you're going to bring them back.
I mean, you know, Johnbeing the rose collector he is, tells

(28:40):
us the story of certain roses oryou know, how it came into production
and then where it went and thenwhy it fell out of production, or
why it's fallen fallen away and there'snot many left. You know, what
a great way to kind of incorporatethat, you know, just like I'm
saying, hey, you can saythis rose in your garden is one that
you named. Hey, how funis to say, hey, this rose,

(29:00):
you know was created during World WarTwo and there was only one left
and now you know, I haveit in my yard, or you know,
whatever the story of it is.You know, it's fun to kind
of have that go along with theplants. I mean, you know,
the fun story. I don't knowif you guys sell or I guess I
don't know if you would. Margueritabot Penstemen and I've talked about this a

(29:22):
number of times, just the wayit was named and how it was introduced.
It's always kind of neat to havea story behind each plant. Hey,
Robin, we are gonna have totake a break when we get back
from the break, we're gonna continuechatting with Rob and Jennings with Heirloom Roses.
Yeah, hanging there with us again. A great show this morning,
very interesting those on Facebook Live questionscomments, somebody said, I've just submitted

(29:44):
my name for the Rose. Ohso people are in it already getting involved.
We're going to take a break.This is Guard in America back after
these messages on BIS Talk Radio.We are back from that break those on
BIS Talk Radio. This is thefinal segment of our number one. As
we mentioned every week, you've gotnews coming up top of the ever.
We come back for hour two.It's six minutes after. But in the
meantime it is Facebook Live, itis BizTalk Radio. John as Tiger is

(30:07):
busy doing behind the scenes work infront of the camera. Well, you
know, I wanted to mention oneof the problems has always been ordering plants
online or mail order is shipping,and you never know how they're going to
arrive. And I have to mentionthat the way that Heirloom Roses ships their
plants, it's virtually fool proof.You get the best, the best plants

(30:36):
in the best condition of anyone I'veever seen they spend a lot of time
on their boxing and testing it obviously, and when we have our auction,
they actually donate boxes to us sothat we can ship our plants. And
they've got it down, yeah,and good methods. And I've never had
anyone complain about the way that theirroses arrive, So good job on that.

(31:00):
Sure that somebody spent a lot oftime researching that Robin, Oh they
do. We're actually coming out witha brand new box design this in just
a few months here, and it'sreally gorgeous and really excited to share it
with everyone. But I have afunny story about our shipping a few weeks
a few months back, I walkedover to shipping and I saw some of
the shipping crew throwing boxes in theair like as hard as they could,

(31:21):
chucking them, and I said,what are you guys doing And they said,
oh, there's roses in there.We're just pretending we're FedEx and ups.
We're throwing to see how the rosesthrived, and then unboxing to see
how they arrived. So luckily everythingis coming great, no broken canes,
nothing, and so we're must bedoing something right. It's like crash test
dummies right by the way, Carlaand Huntington Beach says, I love Heirloom

(31:47):
roses. Their email makes me happyevery day. Oh that's so kind.
Thank you. Let's see what else, all right, I think I'm all
set on my end, guys,Okay, thanks, all right? So
uh yeah, Robin, So wetalked about the rose naming contest to going

(32:09):
into the summer and the fall.You know, we mentioned, you know,
the bulbs will be coming up herepretty soon, perennials will start to
kind of you know, fade away, you know, but people can order
a number of other things from Heirloomthroughout the year. Tools. You know,

(32:30):
we talked about the beneficial insects,gift certificate, fertilizers. So there's
all kinds of stuff on the Heirloomwebsite that, you know, even if
you're stuck somewhere in the middle ofsummer and it's not gardening for you or
middle of winter what you know.And then I sorry I was distracted,
but you know, our listener justmentioned getting your guys's email. Lots of

(32:52):
lots of great information regarding all thistoo. You guys do a great job
of actually educating people who who getsbehind all that go to our YouTube channel
as well. We've got a lotof great videos as far as like selection,
if you're not sure which rose topick, We've got a lot of
great videos on if you're looking fora fragrant rose that grows in zone five,

(33:12):
you know you can watch that videoand find the one you're looking for.
So a lot of great resources inthat way as well. I also
highly recommend in the fall, whenpeople are starting to put the gardens to
bed, that's the time to getyour steaks and tags if you forgot to
get them. So I get mystakes engraved up and then they get shipped
to my house and I don't forgetwhat's where in the gardens? Do you
guys? You guys still do thatwhere you give the option to the person

(33:34):
when they buy a rose to getan engraved tag. Yeah, yeah,
yeah, you can get them whenyou purchase, or you can buy and
post purchase too. Yeah. Thatwas always a great thing that, you
know, was an add on towhenever you bought a rose, is to
be able to get that engraved tag. We were just talking about that last
couple of weeks, you know,about how they you know, do away
with to come with the metal tagand now you know you can't and sometimes

(33:54):
identifying the rose later on as difficult. So why not get the little engraved
tag you go along with it.Yeah? Hey, so I think we
covered everything, Robin. Lots ofgreat information we shared. We shared a
link to the contest. We willmake sure to kind of, you know,
keep our listeners privy to what's goingon with that. When will we

(34:15):
hear the results? Yeah? Sothe official Dame submission can be from June
tenth to June seventeenth, and thenwe're going to allow the local subscribers and
customers to vote on a name,and July first will announce the winning name.
Oh perfect, follow along with oursocial media and our emails to get
that. And I'd also love toshare a discount code with your followers if

(34:37):
they want to use code garden America. They can take twenty five percent off
all roses and perennials now through Junethirtieth, and that's just Garden America,
one word, Garden America, nospaces. Yeah, got it. So
this is going to be just likea nominating convention and then you get to
vote. Yeah, yeah, exactly, Yeah, true. I think John

(34:59):
might to skew it he might votea lot, right, Well, you
said I could only vote five times. You can submit five names, yes,
so you can vote as much asyou want to guess. Oh really,
Oh maybe we need to think aboutYeah, this is like America Night
all. You can vote ten timeson each of these media, so you

(35:21):
can put in one hundred and fiftyvotes. I love it. Well,
we can't wait to we can't waitto share the results. You said July
first, was this? What isthat? Oh? That's a Monday,
all right, So we will haveour show on July sixth. We'll be
able to kind of share the resultson then, Rob. Yeah, thank
you very much for joining us thismorning, Robin. Lots of great information

(35:44):
and we look forward to hearing thoseresults. We'll talk to you again soon.
It's been a pleasure. Thanks guys. Thanks Robin. All right,
I think we took up the fancyfor few people. Yeah, lots of
fun stuff. I mean, didshe say twenty five percent off the entire
website? Yeah? I think itwas just a cubon, you know what
I mean, Like it's just atwenty you know, twenty five percent that

(36:07):
you feel that savings. Yeah,a lot of people like to give ten
percent, okay, but twenty fivepercent. You'll see the difference and you'll
you'll notice the savings. How dowe do it? John takes you takes
care of inflation right off the bat, right, Yeah, takes care of
taxes. I can take my headphonesoff, right. I think you can
do whatever you want. It's yourshow. Yeah. How does that feel?

(36:30):
You know? A lot of rosecompanies have had problems and say the
last twenty years, Yeah, alot of them have gone out of business.
Yep. And Uh, heirloom camefrom uh almost going out of business
when the old owner died, Uh, to Ben Hannah and his wife taking

(36:52):
over the company. And they've they'vemade it, I think probably the number
one mail order roast company in theUnited States. Yeah. Hopefully they've learned
from the other past mistakes of othercompanies, because I mean, I think
it could be so profitable, sosuch good business sense what they do,
because it is it is hard fora garden center today to store, to

(37:16):
grow, to have any selection ofplants, you know, any selection,
I mean, well, unlike alot of other products. And that's the
hard part. To offer nine hundredvarieties of roses That's what I'm saying,
you know, I mean, youknow, back in the day, I
mean by no means was Mission HillsNursery a rose nursery. We would bring
in hundreds of roses. We wouldbring in you know, I don't know,

(37:39):
maybe fifty or so varieties. Thenthere would be places like Kniffings and
Hunter Nurseries who would bring in hundreds. We got to hit a break here,
Okay, keep that train of thought, all right, we're talking about
storing roses, selling roses. Kniffings, Mission Hills Nursery, a break,
pausing now for news on bis TalkRadio. We came back at six minutes

(38:01):
after and back much quicker on FacebookLife. Do stay with us. This
is guard in America. We areback from the break. Those that are
just joining us on bistalk Radio,thank you. Those on Facebook Live.
We were talking prior to the newsbreak Top of the Hour Tiger about storing
roses, selling roses, mail order, all those things. And again you're
talking about something. These are live, These are living. You know,

(38:22):
you've got to get them out ontime if they hang around too long in
the warehouse, so on and soforth. Yeah, I mean, you
know, it used to be obviouslywhen you couldn't order things online that you
would have to go to someplace tobuy, and that was a big difference,
right, but it was difficult.I mean, you know, I
don't know, do you know Johnthe biggest rose selection grower in San Diego

(38:45):
County? Would it have been Nippingsor would it have been Hunter, you
know? Or was there someone elsethat maybe I'm not even thinking of when
like time, like back in likethe nineties, I mean, like prior
to online or prior to like online, probably nursery Land they had the they
would have hundreds of varieties in theirstores. Okay, so you know that

(39:07):
was a challenge though, because theywould bring them in bear root they put
them in there saw dust bins oryou know, I think nursery Land only
did packaged. Oh so they onlydid right, Okay, and but then
what did they you're talking about package? Like they came in those plastic bags
kind of a package. Yeah,okay, A lot of a lot of

(39:30):
people kind of turn their noses downon those kind of offerings, and they
call those instead of package roses,they call them roses in body packs.
Well, it's because it's because ifyou're not a very good nursery person.
They just died in those packages.Wells. But I mean if you to

(39:51):
get to get them in there,you had to cut the roots to a
certain size, right, yeah,and fold them it or break up.
Yeah, and if you didn't doa good job on that could be rough.
And then when they went into discountstores, they weren't cared for at
all, so they just threw themon a shelf inside of a building,
right and yeah, and then theywould you know, the stems would turn

(40:12):
brown. They'd still sell them,but yeah, so you know it.
But it's a difficult thing to bringin a wide variety. You know.
It's one thing to bring in athousand iceberg roses and say I'm going to
sell these, But it's another thingto bring in a thousand, you know
roses, but have two hundred varietiesbecause you never know, one might never
sell, one will sell, andyou you know, so it's difficult for

(40:37):
a nursery or garden center to beable to do that. And that's what
I'm saying is kind of gone away. You know, when you go to
into a garden center, now you'regonna find fifty varieties, you know,
maybe one hundred at a big,big location to kind of pick from as
far as the roses, color,shape, sizes, all that. But
online, you know, like we'resaying, they offered nine hundred different roses

(41:01):
and you have the ability to goonline get them shipped to your home.
They're great quality. I mean thatstory about them throwing the boxes in the
warehouse to emulate how they're going toget shipped across the country. What a
you know, knowing you're going toget a great product as well. I
mean, I hope it's encouraged peopleto again get back into the rose growing

(41:22):
save some of the rose varieties thatyou know are not common anymore because they
are available. Because that was thething too, is uh you know,
Abe Lincoln, you know rose,I might not ever sell it at my
garden center anymore. And by theway, that is a fragrant rose,
right John is right up there,one that James Gamble Fragrance Award, you

(41:46):
know. But I might not everoffer that again in my garden center because
so many other roses are becoming morepopular and those I would you know,
want to do. But but tobe able to now have that, mister
Lincoln, because their loom I don'tknow if they do, but Roses offers
it. It's like really cool.I think everyone has strolling a very common

(42:09):
It's like iceberg. You know,maybe you can't get iceberg anymore. That's
a global warming. The iceberg rosesare all melted, all melted. Oh
but yeah, so what a whata wonderful thing heirlom Roses is doing?
Hey, Kevin and Cardalaine Tiger saysor as a question, does Mission Hills

(42:29):
Nursery offer classes on different growing andgardening techniques and how to become a good
gardener? Yeah? I got aa fairy gardening class just coming up here
soon. So if you're into fairygardening, yeah you're in the area,
Yeah exactly. I mean yes,Missionills Nursery does offer classes on different gardening

(42:52):
topics or different gardening things. Youknow, like we talked about ferry gardening,
vegetable gardening, Uh, you know, fruit trees, all that kind
of stuff. I mean, youknow, I think every responsibility every nursery
is responsible for also education in theirin their region. Because you know,
grew up going to the Missions Nurseryfor a course in whatever it is that

(43:17):
you're maybe interested in is different thangoing to a course in Idaho or Ballbrook.
Sure, because we all have uniquethings that happen in our climate,
in our different regions to to makeus better gardeners or worse gardeners. So
yes, we do offer courses.I want to say good night to our

(43:39):
buddy in UH podcast, Hustam saysgood morning UH to UH to his friends
in America and good night in Pakistan. Wow. What a what a funny
thing as far I put up bythe way, because of a Hustam.
I put an article in the newsletterlast week about we had talked about Hibiscus.

(44:02):
Yes, that she's for tea.Yeah, so we talked about that
variety. Veronica's going to replace hermister Lincoln. Oh she is, huh
yeah, but not just something elsenot doing as well, or or she
just over it. She needs to. I don't know what that means.

(44:25):
It needs to because it's dead orbecause she's over it. Yeah. Lilah
says that she's put in three namesalready. Oh okay, you have two
more. Yeah, yeah, takeyour time. Yeah, don't rush right
because you may change your mind tomorrow. That's right. What's the gopher tally
now? John thirty six? Oh, and how many roses because you you

(44:51):
had only lost, like any one, that's still one, still one,
you are winning. Yeah. Theother three that the gopher god I was
able to get to come back excellent. Yeah, but I'm not still not
happy about the one. And Ifinally got the gopher that was up in
my new rose bed. Uh ityou know, started worm worming its way

(45:15):
worming, gophering its way through thethrough the roses, and I was able
to get that one. But thattook almost two weeks. Oh yeah,
and they keep on and they keepon coming. Yeah, off the air.
I'll have to tell you how Igot it. Dynamite, Brian.

(45:37):
Yes, your patio it's getting well. It's a full bloom right now,
right full bloom. I was tellingJohn before the show. Maybe you were
out in the truck that my PopeJohn Paul six seven eight blooms already you
were saying that one after another.It just keeps on producing and it's in
the patio, but it gets alot of sun. Everything's doing well.

(45:59):
Is your Marina blooming yet? Oh? Yes, it's starting to. Yes,
it's starting to or because it issuch just on the press right color
yea, so it's orange. GeorgeGeorge, I do feel and I mean,
I know you have a ton ofroses, John, but it's a
it's one of the brightest roses I'veever seen. As far as the color.

(46:20):
Yeah, that's why I brought youknow, when I was dividing it,
That's why I brought one in foryou guys, because I just thought
it would be a color you don'tsee a lot of roses. Yeah,
yeah, yeah, so cool.Yeah, so mine. Mine just keeps
blooming right now too. It's nice. Huh. You just start, you
know, wind it up and letit go. I planted some new Shoshido
peppers for me, my. Idon't know what happened to my other ones,

(46:43):
but they just died out, andso I had to plant some new
Shiedo peppers. I'm excited about that. By the way, you were wondering
if Veronica was over her, misterLincoln. Uh huh, she says,
nope, her neighbor killed it.Oh yeah to her neighbor, by the
way, oddly enough, is namedBooth. Okay, all right, little

(47:08):
pause there. Did you catch thather neighbor is named Booth, last name
Booth and the neighbor killed mister,Yes, yes, yes, you know,
it's not that funny if you haveto explain it exactly exactly. Oh,
Mary wants to know the name ofthe orange rose Marina Marina or yeah,

(47:32):
I think that's what she's asking aboutbecause the mentioned orange juice. Right,
Yeah, Marina an m A RI n A just like A like
A. Okay, we're going totake a break. Keeping on time here
with a network with BIZ Talk Radio. So again questions comments, Rose is
what's happening this morning? Name thatrose contest? You have five chances,

(47:54):
five entries or five different names.Lyley is up to three? Wisely and
be careful to get a long wayto go. We're gonna take a break
here on bistalk Radio. Stay withus. Yes, indeed, Garden America
is back from the break. Wetrust you had a good break. Those
on BIS Talk Radio, Facebook Liveand I like to see our friends are
our listeners, our viewers on Facebookand the comments section having fun with each

(48:15):
other. Yeah, a lot ofa lot of activity, a lot of
humor. Mister Lincoln, by theway, Tiger, do you sell buzz
buttons? No? Those things youcan't. Yeah, okay, I thought
you meant when you when you shakesomebody's hand the buzzer. Uh, yes,
do you Yes, I need toget some of those buzz buttons.

(48:38):
Yeah, you're nothing but an oldbug button. Well, they've become,
well, not become they've been popularprobably for maybe the last fifteen years.
Yeah, in fifteen years they wereselling them in New York for in bars
for I think it was fifty centsof flour. Was it that much?

(49:02):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, Iknow, I mean I know they became
real popular. Yeah, like you'resaying in the bar in bars, Yeah,
because they what it's also called toothacheplant. Yeah, because it's numbs
numbs, So it's one of thosethings that numb your mouth, so you
get a little buzz. Like theywould either sprinkled the flour over the drink,

(49:23):
right, or they would rub theglass, the rim, the rim
and the glass and uh, justget a little buzz to your with your
alcohol. Do you get a buzzwith your buzz? I was gonna say
not that the alcohol buzz isn't enough. Yeah, if people want a more
intense feeling of it, you canjust bite on some stinging nettle exactly right.

(49:45):
Oh, the other day I grabsome Oh man, really, Yeah,
have you ever have you ever grabbedsettle by hand? But I know
what you're talking about. Yeah,it goes right into your skin, right
that I mean, I mean that'slike you got stung. Yeah, it's
it's just the And the problem isis that there's fuzzy stinging netle, which

(50:06):
is easy to identify. You likethat stinging nettle. I Am not going
to touch that. And then there'sthe nettle that doesn't have the fuzz which
doesn't sting you. But let's callpoison. Oh though, no, no,
no, the just the regular likesometimes the smooth leaf stinging netle is
that that's not poisonok, I've neverseen you just have to rub up against
it even though it's flat. Yeah, well no, but I'm saying like

(50:30):
the other one. So so there'stwo nettles and one stings you and one
doesn't. But on the one thatdoesn't, it's kind of like a fifty
to fifty chance it doesn't, youknow what I mean. Like stinging nettle
has a fuzzy texture to the leafand you know it's going to sting you.
The other one it doesn't sting you, but it it sometimes does,
but you walk away with symptoms.I don't know. I told you the

(50:54):
story about my grandmother picking nettles becauseshe would cook them right and make it
like a pesto. But she wouldgo out there with bare hands, no
gloves or anything. She was usedto it right. Well, no,
because you know I saw her doingthat. I said, Grandma, doesn't

(51:15):
that thing she goes? Yeah,a little bit. Yeah, tolerance.
I used to work with old nurseryguys too, and they bare hands,
really, you know. And thereare people too, speaking of rubbing up
against these these plants or these leavesthat did sting you, even poison oak,
poison ivy, some more grizzle peopleknowing the hike doesn't do anything to

(51:37):
them, a little rash whatever.I've never been allergic to either poison oak
or poison ivy, and my dadwasn't, so you think it's hereditary.
But my brother was extremely allergic,and my kids are extremely I was gonna
say, I think I remember hearingone of the sons when they were doing
some work, right, Yeah,both both Joe but Jesse. No,

(51:59):
I'm I'm not sure if Joe is. Joe might not be, but Jesse
is for sure. Yeah, SoCarlo's asking for prayers Okay, she's going
uh to the fuchia sale at ShermanGardens and she only wants to buy one.
Oh, good luck with that.Yeah, it's not probably not going
to happen. Yeah. How aboutif we just pray for the best outcome?

(52:22):
Yeah, yeah, exactly, notnecessarily that you only buy one,
but just the best outcome. Youknow, that's something that you should always
just say three. There is agood number you can stick to. Three.
One that's an that's not getting onepotato chip. Right. Yeah.
You know, Tiger, you weretalking about how fashion changes in plants,

(52:43):
and that's something that's changed, atleast in San Diego. You used to
have there was fuchia season. Yeah, and now you can't even find fusia
No. I mean they you wouldhave four inch fusia named varieties every spring
they'd come out. Do you thinkit's because they're kind of difficult? I

(53:04):
think they started to disappear when thatgall might fucia gall might came around,
became challenging to produce, and thenhappened the same thing sued with hypiscus.
When the the wally white fly isthat what it's called wally white fly?
I mean when that came out,but then they then they came with the

(53:25):
wasp that attacked, and then theygot rid of it. So so people
now still plant hibiscus, But ifthey didn't come up with a cure for
that, the hibiscus probably would havedisappeared. When we were in an leander
you can't buy leander anymore. Butwhen we were in Costa Rica, right,
didn't we see hibiscus and they wereall free and clear of white fly?

(53:47):
Do I remember that? Or no? I never saw any white fly
there. That's what I'm saying that. You know, if in like you're
saying San Diego, if there wasa wild hibiscus plant like meaning like not
actually managed and nobody's taking care ofit, it had, yeah, it
had, you know, but inCosta Rica they were beautiful and no wifely

(54:10):
and yeah. But oleander, likeyou know, Johnasan used to be a
very very common shrub for San DiegoCounty freeways. People use it as hedges
and it's like the perfect drought tolerantplant. And then people, you know,
oh it's poisonous. Okay, it'syeah, yeah, let's let's be

(54:31):
let's be realistic as far as what'spoisonous right, you know. Number one,
it's not it is poisonous, butit's not going to kill you just
by looking at it. And thennumber two, by looking at it make
an imagine that, but look atit but chewing it. Yeah, it
was pretty deadly. Well that remindsme. And you need to stop by
your nursery and buy some carnations.Oh yeah, what kind of carnations you

(54:54):
have them? Leases? Yeah,carnations. I don't know if we do
actually right now, why we havewe have? We've had this before.
I told you I planted one afew months ago back in my yard,
a carnation. Yeah, you justdon't. No one talks about them anymore
because they flop over by. Youcan buy a dianthus. Dianthes have become
really popular. Yeah. I can'tbelieve how well diantus do. Yeah,

(55:19):
I mean they just they blow themtheir little heads off. Brian, do
they really they do? How aboutthat? Carlos says, some of her
tigers, some of her plumeria,and a lot of them in the neighborhood
have yellow leaves. Is at thelack of sunshine and cool weather? What
should she do? Yeah, it'sit's exactly that we are very behind when
it comes to even have a leafon it right now. Yes they should.

(55:45):
They doing well. But as youguys know, I probably have about
twenty varieties now, and I've gotsome that are leaping out really nice and
some that are still struggling to leapout. But I would say that the
problem is right now is you know, she hit it on the head.
We don't have the sunlight that wewould normally have, and and she's right

(56:08):
on the coast too, yeah,and which is even you know less and
they probably got well overwatered in thewintertime and so they're still you need to
dry it out, yeah exactly.But I will say if she starts to
fertilize it right now, you're gonnastart to see some big changes. So
I've started fertilizing my plum area isnow because I want them to you know,

(56:32):
grow really well and strong. AndI fertilize them once a month because
they love fertilizer. Good advice we'regonna take. We're gonna take a break
and then back with plumriasn't fertilizing.Yeah, maybe I'll do that this afternoon.
Garden America, we have two moresegments. Boy oh, boy.
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(56:54):
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are back from the break here onGarden America. Prior to the break,
Tiger's going to be fertilizing his plumeriassometimes today. Yeah, and maybe you
don't do the same thing. Idon't remember his name, but we had
a plumaria grower on a while backand turns us on to the grow more,
grow more croma food or something likethat or was it tropical. Yeah,

(57:21):
I can't remember, but I hadsomething that was really high in potash,
right yep, And so I havea I'll post a picture of it
later on today on the Facebook.But I've kind of I do that,
and then I mix it in withsome just all purpose fertilizers and the ones
in the ground I do more kindof organical purpose fertilizers because the issue that

(57:46):
I have too is I have stilla little bit of heavy clay in some
areas, and I want to makesure to amend that soil nicely for the
plumereas, but in the pots Ido the liquid fertilizer. Lilas says that
her daughter brought her plume area stickfrom Hawaii. Should she plant it with
John's method. I think she's talkingabout the egg method, the one where

(58:08):
you put the egg underneath the Yeah. Yeah, you you live by that,
you love that. I don't knowif I live by it, but
I did do a test one timeand it absolutely worked. And for those
of us are those of you whoare listening for the first time wondering what
we're talking about with the egg method, Yeah, all you do is put
an egg in the bottom of apot and then put the soil on top

(58:30):
and don't even crack it. Yeah. Needs to be a fresh egg,
not hard boiled. True. Goodnote. Yeah, and what what does
that appear to do you know?Is the egg decomposes, it emits sulfur
and uh, some of that helpsthe plant to root. If you if

(58:51):
you google egg method of rooting plumeriaonline, you can find out all about
it. So I think this statueof limitations also because I haven't told you
guys about there brought back from CostaRica, I don't know about statue lamentations

(59:12):
even when they're expired you can beprosecuted. Okay. So obviously this was
a well kept secret. So youknow, I whenever I travel, I
like to try to bring one back. So do you remember the last place,
the last hotel we stayed on thebeach off the crabs, the Halloween
Crabs. Yeah, if you lookfrom our hotel straight across, there was
like a point, a land pointexactly. So I got over to that

(59:37):
side, and when I got there, there were these massive plumeria trees growing
on on that point. And soI was able to climb up on there
and I like it, like atone in the morning. No, I
was able to come up on thereand I got a cutting and was and
brought it back. But it's kindof like a cool wild giant, A

(01:00:02):
little different than going through a nurseryand buying one. Yeah, and you
know, I know where it camefrom, and you know, all of
that kind of fun something that'll remindyou of your trip. How big was
it? The cutting? Cuttingly?I got put? Okay, you know
what's interesting. And I asked Danathis the other night coming back from Costa
Rica, coming or going. Wenever had to fill out any cards.

(01:00:22):
No, we didn't. If weare bringing in any fruit, any seeds,
anything, any plant material. Nowwhen you go to Hawaii you have
to and that's in the United Statesand it's all for protecting so on and
so forth. But we didn't haveto for Costa Rica. But I have
a funny story about this cutting.So I went up onto this rock,

(01:00:43):
got a plant, snipped it off, cut it off, and by the
way, don't trust, don't trythis. And we needed a disclaimer that
that John and Brian in no waycan the actions of a tiger pelafox,
right. But here is the Hereis the classic thing. Why do you
not why are you not allowed tobring back plants from other countries? Is
because disease are introduced. Yes,So I'm I'm I'm looking at the plant

(01:01:06):
as I'm walking back with it,and it's got a bug on it.
And I don't know what this bugis. But I was like, see
if I didn't look closely and sawit had this bug on it, who
knows, came back in my suitcaseor whatever. But I was able to
take the bug off. You justknow where the bugs or eggs, eggs
lying dormant. I don't know ifthat's really a funny story. Or if
it's funny because you say it onair and you waited till right now and

(01:01:30):
it was like a little kid whogot away with something. Yeah, you
know. So anyway, well,the nice thing about plumara is that they
are easy to clean off. Itsjust a stick. You didn't bring any
leaves back, Yeah, just astick. So yeah, no soil.
Well do you remember was it goingcoming back? Women? It was when

(01:01:53):
we were coming back, when wesat on the airport, how they randomly
called me aside, Yeah, fordrug testing. That was that was that
was on our way from Costa Ricato the United States. The United States,
And you know, Dana and Iwatched so many of these airport custom
shows. But you know where theytake the wand exactly what they were doing.

(01:02:13):
They take a wand and they justrub your suitcase and then they put
it into a little machine looks likea little ticket that you you know when
you park someplace. Yeah, andit comes up for any kind of drug
and it tells you exactly what itor bomb residue or residue exactly. Which
I'm surprised you didn't have dogs becausemost airpoints they just people get off the
plane are getting ready to depart theother arm dogs at the airport we went

(01:02:34):
to. Oh, well we didn'tsee any I didn't see any dogs,
so but yeah, and you weren'tthere. But yeah, I got pulled
over, got put into a littleroom. Yeah, and I kind of
thought special Brian mayine please report toget upgraded. Yeah, And they said,
yeah, we're gonna check you fordrugs. They went through my suitcase,
so on and so forth. Andyou know what, even though you
know you're totally clean, Yeah,you're thinking, I hope, I mean,

(01:02:58):
I hope there's leave my bag unattended, no false readings, you know
or whatever. But uh, yeah, that was what the most exciting thing
had happened. And you said yousaw dogs, Yeah, I would say
that was exciting, wonderful. Wentto Costa Rica. Did you see anything?
Yeah, we saw dogs at theairport. There the airport, they're

(01:03:19):
inside, they were inside dogs.Exactly. What was the name of the
first hotel we stayed at the veryfirst that we got there. It was
that a double Tree. Yeah,it was like, yeah, it was
a double Tree because the cookies.Yeah exactly. Okay, yeah, that
was in San Jose, right,Yes, how was our new trip coming?
It's coming along. I think,well, no, we got to.

(01:03:43):
I mean, if people want toplan to go with us next year,
we're going to have to come upwith something pretty soon. Yeah.
You know, last we were talkingabout Iceland and Europe. You know,
we were talking about in Ireland,Ireland, and we were we're trying to
finalize that second part of it,Like you were saying, like whether we're

(01:04:05):
going to do the Hampton Cork flowerShow yep, Whether we're going to do
that as that it can add on, or whether we're going to do that
as part of the trip. Ithink people might like that because it's the
world's largest flower show. It's amazing. I know you'd like it was blown
away the largest flowers and there wasn'teven the winds weren't that strong either.
You were still blown away. Iremember Tiger being I mean, there were

(01:04:28):
things there that I saw for thefirst time that I really really liked.
But I remember you being just infatuatedwith the displays of alium. Oh my
gosh. I mean, so firstof all, we didn't we don't get
many ellens, so disappointed, butI tried. There were so many different
types. Do you know what doyou know alium. It's it's the onion

(01:04:50):
fan. It's like an onion.But they get flowers the size of a
basketball and they're perfectly round basketball sizeflowers on these stems that are four feet
tall. Well, huge flowers eitherare very intriguing or they can scare you.
Oh, because you're looking at it, going you shouldn't be that big.

(01:05:10):
Yeah, exactly like you turn acorner and you see a sunflower,
you know, six feet tall,stirring you in the face. Yeah,
that's a that's a big bloom.It's a big flower. So yeah,
by the way, is packed?Oh yes, who is never unpacked?
Bags are packed. She's ready togo. Yeah, but you don't know,
and I'll be back again. Imean, you know that Hampton Court

(01:05:33):
flower show. I've been to alot of flower shows in the United States,
and as John said, there wasthings I'd never seen there before blew
you away, and not even impossiblethings, meaning you know, I get
it when in the aliums are impossiblefor us. I don't see aliums because
they don't grow here. That's that'sthat's kind of a given when you go

(01:05:54):
to some places for flower shows.But I remember one display had I don't
don't even know. Fifty types ofmint, just mint plants, all kinds
of mint. I'm like, Iget. I've seen chocolate mint, I've
seen spearman, I've seen mint thebest. I've seen peppermint, peppermint.
I've seen a lot. I've seena lot of mint. But they had

(01:06:16):
fifty types of mint plants. Ihad never seen the I didn't know that
existed, and those are plants thatwe could grow. Sue, by the
way, in San Diego, saysshe's planning her vacation for next year,
so she needs to know when you'retalking about, Oh, okay, we'll
again summer. So I think theHampton Court Flower shows in June, right,

(01:06:36):
exactly later in June, if Iremember quickly, right, yeah,
if you, if you, Sue, if you google Hampton Court Flower Show
twenty twenty five, you'll see thedates. So you'll know we'll kind of
that window. Yeah, either beforeor after that window. Yeah, yeah,
but yeah, we we wanted topick that area because we can go

(01:06:59):
there in the summer and it's it'stheir season. You know, it's very
difficult to travel to someplace in thesummer and have things be in season.
You know, if we were togo to you know, Australia in the
summertime, it's their winter. Wewere to go to to you know,
England in the summertime, it's theirsummer. Still, you know they,
you know, the Hampton Court FlowerShow is at the end of their season.

(01:07:21):
Okay, we've got to take abreak. We've got one more segment.
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If you can, just at leastonce a day peruse it. It does
help us be a peruser. KevinTucson is asking if Tiger had said Iceland,
because I after he said Iceland,I said Ireland. But it's both.
Yeah, yeah, we're talking aboutdoing Iceland Ireland and then like using

(01:08:05):
maybe the Hampton Court kind of atthe end of it. Yeah, So
or maybe making it up post orpost. Yeah, exactly, are you
making Iceland a pre or post orbecause yeah, we're trying to go to
someplace in the summertime, but actuallyhave it be in season, you know,
because it's you have to go tothose cold areas to get a summer

(01:08:29):
season for their plans. Right backto the plumeria thing and Iceland. When
I was in Germany last year,we collected cuttings of a rose from Iceland
and it's butted up right now?Oh is it? Can't wait to see
a plum Yeah did you see it? Did you see it there? Yeah?

(01:08:49):
Okay, not in Iceland, butin Germany. In Germany, that's
what I'm saying, like you sawit before you acquired it. And do
you think from Germany to Fallbrook theplant will grow the same as far as
I mean, I know the floweris going to look the same, but

(01:09:11):
size, flower size all that.Are you thinking that it might need cooler
temperatures than Fallbrook? Maybe, butI think because we're Inland, we do
get a little cooler in the winter, so I think it'll be fine.
Okay, Carla said she's saving herpennies. But Carla, that's not going
to work. You've got to startsaving dollars. I'm not sure what the

(01:09:33):
cost of the tour will be,but pretty sure it's going to be dollars.
And then Kevin chimes in, Ijust want to say that you guys
are really great to travel with,super fun. We are in for your
next trip. You know what,Kevin, You and Terry were great to
travel, such a blast. Yeah, I'm going a trip with you,
Kevin. Yeah, we'll go withyou. So anyway, Carla is asking

(01:09:56):
now she's confused. Iceland or Irelandboth both both. Any any country that
begins with an eye Yeah, nota run though, Iraq? Yeah,
probably not Israel either, because ofthe thing. We need things to settle
down over there. Calm down,everybody, just calm down. No Iraq

(01:10:17):
either, Yeah, Iran Italy,well, we've done Italy a few times.
Yeah. We would be a toughone in the summertime, though,
Yeah, you don't want to doit in the summer. It would be
good to do southern Italy in spring, yes, which would include POMPEII.
We want to tell the real reasonwhy we're going in the summer, Tiger.

(01:10:38):
Yeah, because that's the only timeI can travel now, yeah,
exactly. Tiger's wife wants to gowith them, exactly. Since she's a
teacher, no chance of Can Igo on one trip with you please?
Exactly? Yeah, So we haveto do a summer trip in order to
accommodate that my wife, being ateacher, doesn't get time off of the

(01:11:01):
rest of the time of the year. I don't think the trips bothered her
until this time Tiger's dad came.She goes, all right, you're taking
your dad now exactly, I wantto go. Yeah. I think Janine
would be a fun person to travelwith. Oh, for sure. It'd
be a good time, and it'dbe fun because she really is interested in
the plants and all of the thingsthat we do. She would be blown

(01:11:25):
away. She loves that stuff.Oh. The Hampton Court Flower Show is
everybody talks about going to the ChelseaFlower Show. And Chelsea's phenomenal in a
different way. And it's also goodbecause it's way at the beginning of the
season. It's actually before roses areblooming, so to have rose displays,

(01:11:48):
they have to grow them in crosshouses. Yeah, and forsome and and Chelsea's
good that way. But the waythat the reason locals like the hamp and
Court Flower Show. Is it's asale too, so you can buy lots
of stuff the massive sale. Yeah. And that's the only thing we did
not like about yes, about theshow was there were all the things that

(01:12:12):
we wanted to buy and we couldn't. But it was still like I'm saying,
the mint table of plants and thenthose braided Oh yeah, we will
standing next to the one of thosewillows. I mean, it was like
a sculpture, a piece of sculpture, except it was alive. With just
In John and I were talking aboutit, We're like, this is so

(01:12:34):
not I don't want to say easyin the sense of it was easy to
do. But if you had awillow farm, you know, and they
do those because they have the wholewillow cut flower arrangements things, right,
So if you had a willow farm, you could put these sculptures together and
put them out for sale within days, you know what I mean. Like

(01:12:55):
it wasn't like it wasn't like somethingthat they had to like, oh,
plant and grow and then sell.All you had to do was have these
sticks kind of like the lucky bamboo, but even more so than the lucky
bamboo because they just twisted the willows, meaning you took one stem and you
just kind of bent it. Yeah, but there was a lot of design

(01:13:15):
to it. It was cool.Yeah, so really neat stuff that we
had never seen before. So it'salways fun to go to those places and
be able to get that inspiration.I remember John was blown away because the
Rose tent. So they had thismassive convention centered tent just filled with all
the rose companies and all their varieties, you know, David Austin had a

(01:13:38):
massive booth, you know, allkinds of things, new introductions, you
know. I think they were morefocused on new stuff, you know that.
I think it was all new stuff. Yeah. You know what elso
would be interesting is Harkness was thereand we just talked to Robin Jennings from
air Loom and she said they justreached a deal with Harkness. Yeah,
so we may be able to seea lot of new roses that you will

(01:13:59):
be able to buy over here ina couple of years. That's one heck
of a long tease for this possibletrip. You're not excited about this,
I don't know what you're going toget excited about. Yeah, Yeah,
it's also, yeah, it's atrip that we haven't even planned yet.
So if we can get it thatexcited over something we're not sure we're doing.
Yeah, something else to get excitedabout. Maybe shows almost over goods.
Well, if you like this show, you're not excited, But if

(01:14:21):
you couldn't wait for it to end, you're excited. You get a wait
for Can you imagine if somebody's sittingthere listening to our show, when is
this going to be over? Insteadof turning it off, they just keep
watching, listening, when is thisgoing to end? Well, guess what
your luck, it's gonna end rightnow. Gina just mentioned there's no way
I'm missing Hampton Court. All right, we've tested the waters and it seemed

(01:14:44):
to be very positive. All right, thank you for tuning in until next
week. We have to go yourgarden, buddies, have a great rest
of your weekend, a good week. We are back next week. Do
we have a guest next week?Tiger Not at the moment, you may
or may not, so hang inthere for that. Read the newsletter for
the entire crew. John Bagnasco TigerPalafox. I'm Brian Maine. Have a
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