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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Well, John may not see us, but we're there, and
by that I mean John beg Nasco. Good morning. It
is Garden America. We see you, You see us if
you're tuned in on the Facebook Live. Also want to
welcome those on biz Talk Radio. Thank you so much
for tuning in. This would be our one for you
on biz Talk Radio Facebook Live. We keep on rolling
right on through both hours here. Good morning to you,
(00:22):
Brian Main, Tiger Pealafox. John still looks a little confused, Tiger.
He's still working on us, still working on finding us
on his phone. And it's important because you're right here. Yeah,
because you monitor most of the questions and comments.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
Most important job over there.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
Get it. So he's got us. We're good.
Speaker 3 (00:37):
Got a lot of people saying good morning and happy Easter.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
That's right, Happy Easter weekend. By the way, we're going
to the three o'clock service today at North Coast.
Speaker 3 (00:45):
Really yes, well we're going the way we're going tonight
also because they suggested that we go because Sunday is
so proud.
Speaker 1 (00:57):
Well, right, but you're going to the five o'clock probably
we're going to the three o'clock because we figured there'll
be even less people. Yeah, yeah, at the three.
Speaker 3 (01:04):
O'clock Where is three or where is are you going?
Speaker 1 (01:08):
Vista Camp the main campus, right? Do you know who's
giving the sermon?
Speaker 3 (01:12):
I thought it would be Chris, Chris, I hope.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
So hopefully it's a thirty minute five minute drive.
Speaker 3 (01:20):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
Well we'll be like two ships passing, we'll be leaving,
you'll be arriving.
Speaker 3 (01:26):
Yeah, except we're going to Fallbrook Okay, yeah, right, So
anyway there, happy Easter weekend to you.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
And it really was a spring week here I think,
meaning you know, the weather, the warm, the misty, the
rain and now beautiful sunny skies.
Speaker 3 (01:46):
I mean yeah, but it was cold and misty the
last few days. In this morning, I got up and
I could see my breath really right, that cold, but
forty three that is freezing.
Speaker 1 (01:59):
Yeah, it was forty nine the way in this morning.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
People back east are saying, yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:03):
It's forty three. That's a fleetway, right. But now, in
all fairness, you're from Detroit, so you've you've been through it.
You know what colds?
Speaker 2 (02:12):
You know, it's funny, you know the from Detroit. How
long has it been since you've lived back east?
Speaker 3 (02:19):
John, like fifty nineteen seventy seven, fifty almost fifty years. Yeah, exactly,
lived out here. It's forty eight years, so well before
you were born, so you know.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
I mean, I don't think he can claim that he
knows what it's like.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
No, but he grew up. I mean, he knows what
cold is. But let me let me tell you. This
is interesting that you bring that up because I went
to school Flagstaff in Arizona, and it snows, it gets
very cold. It's interesting because if I go out here
and it's forty five, I'm freezing. Yeah, but I remember
going down downstairs to the garage and Flagstaff to get wood,
and it would be like thirty five thirty six. It
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didn't seem as cold as forty five for some reason.
And I'm not sure if it's because of location, because
I'm in kind of the snow and here it doesn't
really snow, but it's just cold, just weird. Forty five
thirty five.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
We're just underprepared here.
Speaker 3 (03:10):
Well, I told you this story because it's all relative,
so this goes along. It's what you're saying. When I
went to Fairbanks, Alaska in January, I gave a talk
at the University of Alaska.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
The Royal Order of the Polar Bears.
Speaker 3 (03:29):
But the woman at the hotel drove me to the
airport when I was coming home, and she just puts
on one of those down vests. Yeah, you know, and I've.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
Got like a good park yeah, and I've got got
those little heat pads. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (03:45):
And the temperature said it was thirty five below outside.
And I said, that's all you're going to wear? And
she goes, yeah, yeah, we're going to the car.
Speaker 1 (03:54):
Yeah, it's going to be a little nippy tonight, but
you know, And I said.
Speaker 3 (03:59):
But it's it's freezing out there. She goes, oh no, no,
fifty degrees is really cold, because that's when your bones freeze.
Speaker 4 (04:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:07):
No, I get what she's saying.
Speaker 3 (04:08):
Yeah, yeah, it's relative.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
So it has been nice. It was a nice We
had a little rain a couple of nights ago.
Speaker 3 (04:14):
Well that's why I picked out the quote this week
because the quote was about March. But we had March,
at least California March whether this last week we did.
And in one of his books, Charles Dickens had written,
it was one of those March days when the sun
shines hot and the wind blows cold. When it's summer
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in the light and winter in the shade.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
Did you see how he slipped that quote in this week?
Speaker 2 (04:39):
Love it? I love it.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
He just kind of went right, great segue right out.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
He followed our script. Wow, you know this was good
these pre show meetings.
Speaker 1 (04:48):
You're doing wonders as per our meeting. You'll need to
read that again later on for those that join us
later on in the program per our meeting, per our meeting.
Speaker 3 (04:59):
This morning, I like our buddy Hastam and Pakistan, which
is this good morning even though it's the moon's probably
shining where he is.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
Yeah, that's right. A lot of people on different time
zones around the world. So welcome. We hope you had
a good week. Happy Easter weekend. We are back. We
have a guest today. It's not just going to be
us pontificating tiger, right.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
Correct, We're going to have Andrew Bunting, the vice president
of horticulture over there at the Pennsylvania Horticultural Society.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
I think, did I Pennsylvania? Did I be Philadelphia? It's Pennsylvania, right,
it is. I read somehow in my mind I read Philadelphia.
Speaker 3 (05:34):
I just wanted to mention that Mario from New Hampshire
says good morning, good morning.
Speaker 1 (05:40):
You know we don't hear enough from New Hampshire. Mario,
thank you for representing New Hampshire.
Speaker 3 (05:45):
Hampshire is fine, but the new one that we appreciate.
Speaker 1 (05:50):
Kylo.
Speaker 3 (05:50):
By the way, he says good morning to everyone, and
she says, and yes, O blessed easitter to all of you.
May it be more than bunnies, eggs and chocolates to you?
Speaker 1 (05:59):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (05:59):
Absolutely, you know if it wasn't for Easter, Easter is
the only reason we celebrate Christmas.
Speaker 1 (06:05):
Rightastically right, they kind of go together, if you know
what I mean. So I sent John a couple of pictures, Uh,
roses you saw Laura Bush and Laura Bush?
Speaker 3 (06:17):
Oh did you send me a lemon spice too? You
know I thought that was an old photo.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
No, I took them. They were they starting everything starting
to bloom now. So I get all proud of my roses.
I want to show them to John.
Speaker 3 (06:26):
I had already had the newsletter done and we pictures in,
but I saved it.
Speaker 1 (06:31):
To Yeah, you know, when we're short of pictures.
Speaker 3 (06:34):
I thought the lemon spice looked especially good.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
Thank you. I'd like to give an add a boy
from John.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
Is this shocking to you, John? I was at a
customer's house in Murrieta, Okay, and they had I don't know,
maybe thirty or forty roses in the backyard, every one
of them fully leaved out, fully beautiful, full in bloom.
Speaker 3 (06:54):
No, that's what they should be rat right now.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
I felt like it was early, but you're you think
you're you're there. They were perfectly fine.
Speaker 3 (07:01):
Yeah, Okay, it depends on when you prune.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
Also, yeah, if they're if they're pruning correctly, if they
pruned earlier.
Speaker 3 (07:07):
Right the once I pruned last week, or still.
Speaker 1 (07:10):
Not prune till January, maybe early February.
Speaker 2 (07:16):
I was just so impressed. I was just And the
reason why I say Murietta too is because they get
colder there, like they.
Speaker 3 (07:22):
Get cold, but they also get heat, get warm. Yeah,
you know on the coast where you are, that you
get a lot more over cast.
Speaker 2 (07:29):
Okay, Okay.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
By the way, we still get our high surf warnings
from Alexa in scripts ranch. There's a high surf advisory
and you can't, you know, you can't question her, like
like Alexa, we don't live near the coast. Why are
you giving us.
Speaker 2 (07:44):
Be quiet, Brian.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
No, it's like, I'm sorry, I don't know the answer
to that. That's a cop out.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
Uh. Brian has a new friend that he likes to
talk to on my co pilot. Yeah, exactly like him.
Speaker 1 (07:55):
Yeah, we're buddies. Is just because of the Wi fi here,
he's having a hard time.
Speaker 2 (07:59):
Getting through what he what's up?
Speaker 1 (08:01):
Because he goes, what do you want?
Speaker 2 (08:03):
Is that what he says?
Speaker 1 (08:05):
What can I do for you?
Speaker 4 (08:06):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (08:07):
Gee, I'm sorry, I disturbed you were you having breakfast? Hey?
We should mention too, of the cartoon on our Facebook.
You know, John has become a one panel syndicated cartoonist,
or so it appears, and he syndicates with us. It
doesn't leave Garden America. That that was good, and I
love your program. Tiger looks more like Tiger than Tiger
(08:29):
does and that's very good.
Speaker 3 (08:32):
It's it's been hard to you came out. You make
a perfect cartoon.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
Care I don't like my.
Speaker 1 (08:38):
Nose though, fixed. I don't have nose like that. I've
got an old man nose.
Speaker 3 (08:42):
That's a caricature, I guess. But yeah, surprised that you
still complain about being an old man in anything that's
what you are.
Speaker 1 (08:54):
Yeah, no, no, no, no, it's all up here, all appear. No,
you did a good job. It's now do you have
one for next week? Ready? Do we need to discussion?
Speaker 3 (09:03):
But you know, if you've got any ideas, just send
them to me. I now I can use almost any
idea and make a cartoon.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
This is good because if I can send it to
him without him being in the room, I won't see
the eye roll. If he doesn't like my idea.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
You just don't see it. I just see it. You
just don't never see it published.
Speaker 1 (09:19):
I want I want to, Yeah, I want to exactly.
Speaker 3 (09:21):
Do you remember I sent you a list of you
had asked for ideas when you were trying to do
some cartoons, and so right now I'm working off that list.
Speaker 1 (09:31):
Did I sent you now, the one that I say
you sent you?
Speaker 4 (09:34):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (09:34):
I think it was last year sometime.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
I think it was almost two years ago.
Speaker 1 (09:38):
Yeah. Now, most of mine were not garden related, but
we could fix that.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
Yeah, we could do some good concepts in there.
Speaker 3 (09:46):
Yeah, the ones I sent you were all garden related though.
Speaker 1 (09:50):
Right, Okay, well that's another direction we're going. If anybody
have any ideas, let us know you know what's funny
to you.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
That is the funny thing about gardening as well. You know,
we talk about just the real life experiences and you
have to poke fun at yourself right when you're gardening.
You have to. That's the only way to really enjoy it.
You there, you go, see, you know, because that's the
only way to really enjoy it. You're gonna have failures,
You're gonna have success. It's just a matter of you know,
(10:18):
being able to embrace the idea of I get so uh,
I don't know, not upset, but when customers come in
and they get so frustrated that they were not successful,
and there's no real reason besides, they just weren't successful.
Speaker 1 (10:35):
Welcome to the club. Yeah, it happens.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
It happens.
Speaker 1 (10:38):
It's life, life in the garden. We didn't mention the
earthquake at all, did.
Speaker 3 (10:42):
We, No, No, But Carla and Huntington vach One know
if we felt.
Speaker 1 (10:46):
Well, we can quickly address that we need to take
a break. BIS Talk Radio, Facebook Live. Welcome to Garden America.
Back after these messages for our good friends and our
great sponsors, including Fertile Home on BIS Talk Radio, stay
with us, alrighty hope you had a good break. Welcome
to the show the Really Big Shoe. Here. This is
Guarden America. We're having a good time. I'm Brian Maine,
John Begnasco, Tiger Pelafox. The three of us, well two
(11:08):
of us felt the earthquake last week. Tiger did not.
Tiger was driving.
Speaker 3 (11:11):
I'm trying to think it was six point seven right
around there.
Speaker 2 (11:15):
I know it was above six.
Speaker 1 (11:17):
Yeah, I guess. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (11:18):
I mean that's that's pretty strong.
Speaker 1 (11:20):
That's decent.
Speaker 3 (11:20):
Yeah. Paula mentions that that it was long and loud
in Fallbrook, and I was just telling Tiger it was
definitely loud. It was like a semi drove into my house.
But I didn't think it was long, I because I
got the note on my phone to take cover. Well,
it was over by the time.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
You know what interesting you bring that up. I have
an earthquake app and it'll tell me like whenever there's
an earthquake someplace. Yeah, usually there's a lot of them too, right,
But this was so close that my phone went off
in alarm and it said earthquake, earthquake, duck and I'm like,
what then it hit?
Speaker 2 (11:55):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (11:55):
Really, it hit probably a second and a half after
I got the notification because I'm thinking what's this for?
And then Bullmlett and I said, this is a pretty
good app.
Speaker 3 (12:05):
Told me after it was over. No, I got it before.
You know, Paul is mentioning five point two. That was
the initial what they upgraded it later.
Speaker 1 (12:14):
Yeah, okay, so all right, with that business out of
the way, it is time to bring on Andrew and
anybody on Facebook Live. Of course, questions comments will roll
into that, so feel free and tiger. Let's sees see
what's happening with Andrew.
Speaker 2 (12:27):
Yeah, so Andrew Bunting is joining us this morning. He's
the vice president of horticulture there at the Pennsylvania Hot
Horticultural Society, hourt Society. You know, Andrew joins us. He's
got a he got a bachelor in science and plants
and soil science from the Southern Illinois University. And you
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guys don't have too many earthquakes over there, beck eas
do you? Andrew? Morning? Andrew?
Speaker 1 (12:56):
Go ahead, Andrew, there we go.
Speaker 4 (13:02):
You with us.
Speaker 2 (13:04):
Just because you hit one button then the other doesn't
mean you did it right.
Speaker 1 (13:07):
You know what, keep talking? I can I can kind
of hear him. Oh, okay, go ahead.
Speaker 2 (13:12):
Yeah, so you know, Andrew's you know, joining us now
from you know, the Pennsylvania Horse Society. That's the that's
the home of the phil Andrew you joining us now?
Speaker 1 (13:24):
Yeah, he's there, Andrew, you there we go. Can you
hear us now?
Speaker 3 (13:30):
Yeah? We can hear Andrew. No, he can't hear us.
Speaker 4 (13:34):
I can hear both of you talk.
Speaker 1 (13:38):
Okay, I'm Brian, I'm with Tiger and John. How's that sound?
Speaker 4 (13:41):
Yeah, I can. I can barely hear you, Brian.
Speaker 2 (13:44):
Okay, can you hear me Andrew? This is Tiger.
Speaker 4 (13:47):
Yeah, a little better, but still a faint Okay.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
We'll try to work on that on our and on
on Brian's end of trying to get the audio up. Andrew,
thank you for joining us this morning. Why would you?
I'm saying, you guys don't have too many earthquakes back east,
do you.
Speaker 4 (14:05):
Well, occasionally have a little rumble, but nothing like the
West coast.
Speaker 2 (14:09):
Yeah, so you guys don't don't worry about it as
much as we do. But you know, I was, I
was just we were just talking, and you know, I mean,
I hope I don't, you know, have anything happen anytime soon.
But I really haven't felt an earthquake since I was
a kid. Every time there's been one, I've been doing
something that therefore I haven't felt it. Like this time
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I was driving and I didn't really feel it, or
I didn't feel it at all, I should say. So,
it's been a while since I've been in a room
and then scared from an earthquake. You know, it's just
you know, we'll see what happens.
Speaker 1 (14:44):
One of those things. Yeah, some will happen.
Speaker 3 (14:46):
Well, Tigers thought there was an earthquake when he was
walking in the forest, but turned out they were just
quaking aspen.
Speaker 1 (14:53):
Okay, okay, I'm sure, Andrews saying, are we gonna get
on with this interview?
Speaker 2 (14:59):
So Andrew, tell us a little bit about the Pennsylvania
hort Society and your guys's history and a little bit
about the background of it.
Speaker 4 (15:10):
Sure, we're almost two hundred years old. We were founded
in eighteen twenty seven, so twenty twenty seven will be
two hundred years old. And we've been lots of different
things over the last two hundred years. The probably one
thing that's remained constant is we also produced the Philadelphia
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Flower Show, which was started in eighteen twenty nine, just
two years after the starting of the society, and back
then it was often a place where new plants were showcased,
like the first point setia ever that came to market,
was showcased at the eighteen twenty nine Flower Show. Today,
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the hort Society does many things our missions to advance
the health and well being in the Philadelphia region through horticulture,
and we do that through four impact priorities, which are
creating healthy living environments, increasing access to fresh food, expanding
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economic opportunity, and building meaningful social connections. And we do
that to have three major programmatic arms. We maintain about
twenty two public gardens and landscapes throughout the city and
one in the suburbs. We have a big program street trees,
community gardens, cleaning and greening and vacant lots and workforce development.
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And then the third programmatic arm is the Flower Show.
And then we also have a robust members programs and
we have members of the Society and we offer them
tours and trips and lectures and would produce some magazine
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four times a year. So that's kind of what PHS
is today.
Speaker 2 (17:07):
You know, and you know this concept of the maintaining
and keeping up of gardens in the community is just
so important. People don't realize it. There was a you know,
a study done a while ago, and I'm sure it's
nothing new to the people listening, but it just really
puts some information, factual information and stats to a concept
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that we all know but don't always realize. And it's
just the idea that when you are in an area
with you know, green space, with actual you know, beautiful
plants and in landscapes, your whole being is better. And
the way they did this research was by you know,
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school campuses, and you know, they took a school campus
and they made it you know, very bland and you know,
a lot of fences, a lot of asphalt, and they
started seeing the students and how they learned and how
they responded in the classroom and you know, just their
overall well being. And then they took you know, a
group of kids and they put them on a beautiful
campus where you know, they went outside and they learned
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under trees and they had grass and they have flowers
around them, and those kids responded much better. And you know,
so people don't realize the importance of maintaining those green
spaces around our communities because it helps the people that
live there, right Andrew.
Speaker 4 (18:26):
Yeah, yeah, that's right. We in fact our I mentioned
our cleaning and green in a Vacant Lots sort of
a program that we do with the City of Philadelphia,
and we identify kind of blighted, kind of condemned properties.
They may have a existing house or house that's falling
in or there the properties covered into grass. So we
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we clean and green those who removed the rubble grave
the site so grassy, maybe plant a few trees, put
a little fence around it. And so these cleaning green
lots are all over the city. There's thirteen thousand in total.
So we've worked with a scientist, doctor Eugenia out and
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she's at University of Pennsylvania. So she's taken kind of
where these green lots are throughout the city and studied
their impact on a variety of things including community prosperity,
crime and violence, and mental and physical health. And just
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some of her stats include, someone was study participants living
near green lots experience well decrease and hey.
Speaker 2 (19:44):
Hey, sorry Andrew, to cut you off. We do have
to pause for a commercial breaking Andy, want to cut
you off. But we'll get right back to that.
Speaker 1 (19:49):
Idea break for a biz talk radio coming back quicker
for Facebook Life. Do stay with us. Andrews our guest
this morning. I'm Brian main Taker, Pela Fox, John Begnasco here,
thank you for joining us sun Guard in America. All right,
welcome back as we continue here on Garden America with
the Andrew Bunting and apologize for cutting you off but
to have to pay some bills with our sponsors Tiger
go right ahead.
Speaker 2 (20:09):
Yeah, Andrew, you were just talking about the program where
you guys actually take vacant spaces and beautify them, whether
with the use of you know, green you know, some
some plantings, grass or just something that's going to be
better than just rubble and debris. And you guys actually
have a scientist doing research on the impact of the
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surrounding community, is that right?
Speaker 4 (20:32):
Yeah? Yeah, And so some interesting that so the steady
participants living near the green lots experience forty one percent
decrease and feelings of depression and sixty two percent reduction
of self supported poor mental health. And then she also
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what's really interesting is she looked at crime that to
this analysis that was done over a thirty eight month
study period. And so what she's found is participants living
near treated vacant lots reported significantly reduced perceptions of crime
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by thirty seven percent, vandalism by almost forty percent, and
safety concerns when going outside their homes by almost sixty percent.
Seventy five percent of the participants report significantly increased use
of outside spaces were relaxing and socializing. It was a
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thirteen percent reduction in crime overall, in a twenty nine
percent reduction and gun violence. So you know, as you mentioned,
a green space can do a lot of things for
a lot of people, but there's good science to show
that it, especially in an urban area, how it impacts
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mental health as well as reduction in crime. And we
all know that just you know, being in a green
space or near a green space or gardening, what that
does to us both mentally and physically.
Speaker 2 (22:12):
Yeah, yeah, I mean, you know, it's it's amazing, but
that that stuff isn't cheap, you know, from the idea
of you know, having to go in there, remove the rubble,
you know, actual do the planting, and then you know,
I'm sure you guys are good stewards in the way
of you know down the road. I mean, I'm sure
the plants that you choose are going to be something
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that are going to impact the area in a good
environmental way slash not be high end maintenance. But is
your guys' biggest fundraiser of the year the Philadelphia Flower Show?
Speaker 4 (22:48):
It's part of it. Yeah, I would say there's you know,
we do a variety of different ways to raise funds
for the Pennsylvania the cultural to say, one of them
being the Philadelphia Flower Show. We also get funds from
the City of Philadelphia to support cleaning and greening and
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vacant lots in our workforce development program. We also have
a member's program, so we get funding from them. We
get a lot of different brands from you know, local
city family foundations, you know, some state sources as well.
So it's a I would say there's many pieces to
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the kind of the funding high that goes together to
you know, bringing revenue and funding sources for us each
and every year.
Speaker 2 (23:42):
Now, you know, one of our listeners asked, is there
some is there a YouTube channel or you know for
the Philadelphia Flower Show? Is there a way to kind
of check it out online? And I'm sure you guys
have a lot of resources, because that's one of the
other great things. You guys do. Share so much information
(24:03):
via your website, whether it is tutorials, whether it's information
new plants. You know, So if somebody did want to
find out more information specifically about the flower Show, they
probably just visit your website, right, yeah.
Speaker 4 (24:17):
Yeah. If you get a phs online dot org, you'll
see many tabs flower show is there kind of there's
a whole tab on kind of gardener's information, becoming a member.
Of course, volunteering. You know, we have almost four thousand volunteers,
many of which do volunteer at the flowers. So and
(24:37):
if you're even if you're not in the area, there
are some opportunities to volunteer remotely. We use a lot
of volunteers for tree planting. We just did a big
tree planting last weekend, and we'll do another big one
in the fall. Because we plant bear it trees. We
have a huge community garden programs, so there's lots of
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ways for people to get information but also to get involved.
Speaker 2 (25:05):
Speaking of trees, you know, your first book that you wrote,
or at least that's what it says online, was a
guide to magnolia trees. Am I correct, Yeah, that's right.
Speaker 3 (25:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (25:18):
Now, so you know a lot of people just think
the magnolia is white flower. You know, southern magnolia's giant trees.
But there's a lot of varieties and people don't even
have an idea of you know, the deciduous varieties, pink flowers,
different shapes, different styles, right, Yeah.
Speaker 4 (25:37):
Yeah, it's a big genus. Yeah, most people are aware
of they the saucer magnolia that blooms in the spring
with white or pink flowers, or as you mentioned, the
southern magnolia with large, shiny, glossy leaves and blooms in
the late spring or summer. But there's many species, hundreds
(25:59):
of selections I not, if not thousands, and some are evergreen,
some are small, some are big. Mostly bloom in the spring,
but some bloom sporadically throughout the growing through the season.
There's seven species that are native east of the Mississippi.
I would say most species are native to say, southeastern Asia,
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but there's a lot of species in Mexico, Central America,
northern South America, parts of the Caribbean. That's a group
of plants that probably you know, most people only know
a handful of species and cultivars.
Speaker 2 (26:42):
Yeah, do you do you kind of have a favorite
grouping over in that in that tree genus or do
you just kind of like them all?
Speaker 4 (26:51):
I would say I do like some of the aren't
Eastern natives because they have big leaves almost kind of
have a tropical look. I do like the you know,
the early spring flying ones, the star Magnolia, Leidner magnolia,
and It's Magnolia, saucer magnolia. Those are all like classic
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spring flowering trees. You know, a lot of people call
the magnolias the queen queen of the flowering trees, and
they it's nice about magnolia's as they bloom heavily every year.
You know, they don't get a year. Some years they
get and maybe they come out too early and get frosted.
That's always a risk they run. But yeah, it's you know,
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there's many colors. There's pinks and whites, and purples and
magentas and some that border on red. And there's a
whole group of yellow magnolias, I lestoes. That's a group
that I like. And they tend to bloom later, so
they don't really run the risk of getting frosted.
Speaker 3 (27:57):
I just lost the magnolia last week. No gopher. Oh,
it's one of the New Zealand hybrids. Are they hardy
in in areas of Pennsylvania by any chance?
Speaker 4 (28:11):
They're They're better on the west coast there a lot
of those New Zealand hybrids have a species called campbelly
I huh, which is native to the foothills and Himalaya mountains,
and that that that particular species doesn't like our eating humidity.
So you tend to see those New Zealand types more
like you know, souther in California, northern California, Pacific Northwest,
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but not not so much on the East coast. Just
just too hot and humid in general.
Speaker 3 (28:42):
Some of them have amazingly large flowers.
Speaker 4 (28:45):
Oh yeah, yeah, that's from the campbell I parents. If
you if you google magnolia campbelly eye, some have flowers
that are twelve or fourteen inches across.
Speaker 3 (28:57):
Oh my gosh.
Speaker 2 (28:58):
Yeah, in those southern magnolias too. They it's kind of
like when you go to Hawaii and you see the
pathos growing. It's huge and it's got the leaf the
size of a six foot person. When you go back
east and you see this magnolia tree, and it's the
size of our our fightis trees that we see here,
you know what I mean. They're just massive, massive trees.
It's so impressive. But you know, over here, we tend
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to like the magnolia little gem because everybody wants everybody
wants the magnolia, but they don't want the size tree
in their yard.
Speaker 4 (29:29):
Yeah, and that's that's a good one. That's you know,
that's the selection of the southern magnolia that's more diminutive
in size. But you're right. If you go to say,
anywhere from like Washington, d C. South, you'll see southern
magnolias that tower over one hundred feet taller. You know,
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just they're ubiquitous and massive landscape trees.
Speaker 2 (29:54):
Yeah, and they flower like you're saying, And it's so
impressive because to see his tree that size, that flowering
capability as well is pretty impressive. Hey, Andrew, we are
going to take another break. When we get back from
the break, we'll continue chatting with Andrew Bunting from the
Pennsylvania Hortz Society.
Speaker 1 (30:11):
Yep, and those questions comments right there on our Facebook page.
So we are going to take a break for BIS
Talk Radio Brian Main, John Begnascar or Tiger Palafox. Our
guest is Andrew Bunting. We are guarding America back after
these messages for our friends on BIS Talk Radio. We
are back from that break here BIS Talk Radio Facebook
Live and if you are tuned in on BIS Talk Radio,
this would be the final segment of our number one
(30:31):
news coming up top of the hour. We come back
at six after hopefully you can hear at least one
or both hours on BIZ Talk Radio. Tiger.
Speaker 2 (30:39):
Yeah, So we're chatting with Andrew Bunting from the Pennsylvania
Horticultural Society this morning, and we were talking about the
Philadelphia Flower Show, which is something that you guys put on,
which recent the twenty twenty five one just passed. Am
I correct? Andrew?
Speaker 4 (30:54):
Yeah, Yeah, we hold it every year. It's usually like
the first week of March, maybe a few days of
February for us. It's kind of the you know, the
kickoff of spring in the on the on the East Coast.
Speaker 2 (31:10):
And and along with that, you guys kind of release
some of your new plant, uh your you're best of
or or the hot new plants that you guys are
are promoting. Is that correct?
Speaker 4 (31:25):
Yeah, yep?
Speaker 2 (31:26):
Do you do you have that that list? Do you
do you kind of know some of those plants that
you guys were sharing.
Speaker 4 (31:31):
Yeah, I have them here, so you know, it's obviously
there's so many new plants that come out every year.
One of the things I do is part of my job,
is I try to go to trade shows around the
country and I can't I can't hit them all, but
I go. I kick off the year and go to
one in Baltimore, and then I usually go to one
(31:55):
in Columbus, Ohio, and then I might take in a
couple others. Also trying to visit nurse trees and see
what's new. And there's literally hundreds off not thousands of
new plants every year, so it's a little hard to
narrow it down. So I just picked a couple shrubs
(32:18):
and trees. So you know, one plant that's had an
amazing renaissance in the last twenty years are the hydranges.
And it really started probably about twenty years ago. Marthas
Stewart had a bouquet of hydranges on the cover of
her magazine Martha Stewart Living, and ever since then there's
(32:41):
been a global fixation on hydranges. So one of the
ones I picked is there's a species of hydrange of
hydrange of piniculata, which blooms on new wood, which means
that he printed hard during the winter and that new
stems'll bloom. They'll bloom that season. So there's there's a
(33:04):
number of diminutive ones, and one is called dragon baby.
There's many other smaller ones. Another one that I like
that's kind of small like that is a little lime
or bobo. And what's nice about them. A regular hydrange
of piniculator can get twenty feet all but these smaller
ones they are only like two to three to four feet.
(33:27):
But they're nice for maybe, you know, maybe a city
dweller that doesn't have a lot of space. Uh. And
then I also recommended a couple of trees because these
tend to not be as promoted as say perennials or shrubs. So, uh,
(33:50):
you know, we're always we're in the business of finding
good street trees. And one street tree we use a
lot of that's incredibly adaptable. I suspective grow almost in
any state in the United States, and it's called the
Kentucky coffee tree, and it's kind of a gangly tree.
It takes several years before it gets kind of nice
(34:13):
form an architecture. But there's a new one out called
a Skinny Latte, named for a Kentucky coffee tree, and
it's more upright in stature. So, you know, one of
the problems with street tree sometimes is they can be
too broad spreading and then ultimately maybe get boomed by
(34:34):
the utility companies. This one's a bit more upright and
it's stature. What's nice about the Kentucky coffee trees is
they can take good soil, wet soil, they can take
really cold conditions. It's a street tree that's popular altar
at the Midwest. It seems to be pH indifferent, so
it can take an acidic or an alkaline soil. So
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Skinny lat is kind of a new selection of the
of the Kentucky coffee trees.
Speaker 2 (35:04):
Oh that's fun, what a fun name. I'm looking it
up right now and they are very tall, upright trees,
and I'm think I've got a picture up and it's
got kind of a pink flower.
Speaker 4 (35:17):
Yeah, kind of white is white is pink? It's really
grown more for its durability. Okay, I would say it's
flowers and also skinny latte is a is a male
selection the female is there a little problematic and that
they produce a big pod because they're in the bean family.
Speaker 2 (35:38):
Okay, yeah, you know that is sometimes the trouble with
trees is you know, you know, the mess that it
could create after after a bloom or after the seed
cycle and stuff like that. But so so you're saying
that these ones are all male like when they're bread
like this, What what is the other tree here that
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they do that? Is it ginko? John that they only
breed like the males because.
Speaker 3 (36:03):
They're the plant male selections because of the fruit on
the female.
Speaker 4 (36:12):
Yeah, so yeah, if you get a female ginko, they
can be quite messy smelly. Ginkoso are one of the
most durable of all the street trees, even though they're
not native and maybe don't have as much ecological functions
(36:34):
as some of the other trees. It is such a
durable tree and it can really grow them almost anywhere
I see. I probably sink Ginko's planted in more cities
around the world than any other trees.
Speaker 2 (36:48):
Really, in a lot of different forms.
Speaker 3 (36:50):
On ginkos too, just like you're talking about this fastigiat
form of the gymnoclattice. There's been a lot of breeding
with ginko and selections on ginkgo trees.
Speaker 4 (37:02):
Yeah, there's one called Princeton Century. It's more there's some
little little dwarf ones, you know, for like the rock
garden as well, something more than a couple of feet tall.
Speaker 3 (37:16):
There's one that has is it tube offm us that
has curled leaves ye, yeah, yeah, some that.
Speaker 4 (37:26):
Have variegated leaves for the plant of this one species
that actually has quite a few different variants.
Speaker 3 (37:36):
I was shocked when I was at the Chelsea Flower
Show and saw a booth that just had ginko varieties.
Speaker 2 (37:42):
Yeah, the whole booth. You figured it out. Like, hey, hey, Andrew,
we are gonna have to take another break right now.
When we get back, we'll wrap up chatting with Andrew
Bunting and the Pennsylvania Hordic Culture Society.
Speaker 1 (37:54):
So yeah, yep, stay with us. We've got, like I say,
news coming up top the hour for Bistalk Radio Facebook
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All right, how about that Facebook Live. We are back
(38:14):
very quickly. Those on BIS Talk Radio just joining us, Welcome.
This would be our number two for our friends on
BIS Talk Radio here on Garden America. As we wrap
things up with Andrew Tiger.
Speaker 2 (38:25):
Yeah, so, Andrew, I wanted to wrap up because you
are the vice president of Whole Culture and leads the
utilization of planting and design to promote environmentally sound gardening
there at the PHS in California. Here, a lot of
us have moved to this kind of native plant gardening.
You know, I think mostly because of water. You know,
(38:47):
we're always trying to conserve water here in California, and
I'm wondering back there, do you guys try to you know,
focus on the native plant selection two or just like
what you said here, I mean in your in your
discussion prior, where it's just more the right plant for
the right place, you know, back east, because I mean,
(39:09):
you know, if you guys plant, you know, like you say,
that large tree and it gets up into the power lines.
You know, it's going to become more problematic than if
you plant a native tree and it gets into the
power lines. Do you guys focus on the natives? There
is my basic question.
Speaker 4 (39:25):
Yeah, yeah, I would say yes, yes to some degree.
I would say we we don't exclusively promote native plants.
I would say for us, especially in the city, it
means the person foremost be urb and tough and resilient,
and that could be to be a native, to be
a non native. We do. I want to promote plants
(39:48):
that have ecological functions. So those often are native plants
and their plants that support pollinators or support you know,
food sources for of songbirds, or whatever the case might be.
So I would say, you know, a lot of lecturing
and writing and interviews and podcasts that I do, I
(40:10):
do talk about native plants. I have entire PowerPoint presentations
on native plants. But I don't only talk about native plants.
You know, I think a home garden that has a
lot of natives and some non natives as well, can
(40:30):
be a place that supports good biodiversity. So, you know,
we also talk about a few years ago, we created
these kind of gardening to the greater good principles and
they're pretty simple there. One is to celebrate gardening. This
love gardening, Choosing plants with intentions that choosing you know,
(40:54):
pollinator plants by local. Maybe use tools that are electric
to your garden is part of the ecosystem. So again
maybe having ecologically beneficial plants in your garden, use organic
fertilizers versus synthetics, composts, figure out ways to mitigate stormwater
(41:19):
runoff on your property. And then also, and this is
kind of that spread through all of PHS, embrace the
sharing mindset. So that might be sharing your knowledge, it
might be getting involved in volunteering, and it might be
you know, producing a lot of produce in your garden
and then sharing it with your neighbors or with a
(41:42):
food kitchen or a food bank, or maybe get involved
in a community garden. So those are four principles that
underpin the work that we do, and we try to
in all the work we do kind of uplift these
principles of guardames.
Speaker 2 (42:01):
For the great is good, Yeah, really good information. And
like you said before, all this information is actually shared
online by PHS online dot org, where you can go
to find all the videos the tutorials where you guys
are are doing talks and how people can get involved.
So if you get a chance, check out their website
(42:24):
and you know, get involved. Andrew, thank you very much
for joining us morning. Have a great rest of the
weekend in a happy easter.
Speaker 4 (42:31):
Yep, thanks for having me.
Speaker 1 (42:32):
All right, take care, all righty.
Speaker 2 (42:35):
You know, he was talking about that last concept of sharing,
and I was just thinking, you know, he's talking about
growing plants and sharing crops, and I'm like thinking, or
you could grow thousands of roses and then begin to
share them all over the world. Right, John has the
(42:56):
most sharing garden ever.
Speaker 3 (42:58):
Sharing plans would be at the top list.
Speaker 2 (43:02):
Of my yeares exactly.
Speaker 3 (43:04):
Oh my goodness, we've got an auction coming up too.
Speaker 1 (43:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (43:08):
I'll have to let people know when all the plants
are posted. Right now, I think almost everyone is up there.
You can't bid yet, but if you go to c
c rs dot com you can see the plants that
are going to be offered and.
Speaker 2 (43:24):
Start getting start saving your pennies.
Speaker 3 (43:26):
For Yeah, yeah, there'll be some really good deals. There's
also some roses on there that this is that there
may be two of that rose in the country. And
one of them will be in the auction, of course,
the other one will be at my house.
Speaker 1 (43:43):
Now, those people that get their sneak preview want to
see what's happening that they Is there any way for
them to know that this particular rose might be what
you're talking about, Like, there's only two in the country.
I'm gonna, I'm gonna, I'm gonna been on this one.
Speaker 3 (43:59):
You know, one of ours is posting things on Instagram,
So if you go.
Speaker 1 (44:05):
To then you would know.
Speaker 3 (44:07):
Yeah, if you go to California Coastal Roads, you'll see that.
But also if the link takes you to help me
find roses, if you're clicking on a rose variety, and
that will tell you a little bit. If you go
to gardens, when you click on that rose variety, it'll
show you how many gardens. Okay, it'll actually in yeah.
Speaker 1 (44:27):
So oh.
Speaker 3 (44:28):
Also an easy way to tell if you're online is
look at the price, right, and then it's interesting usually
usually not always, but usually the higher the price, the
rare the rose.
Speaker 1 (44:39):
And then when you're actually when we're involved in the auction,
and you see like a lot of people bidding on
a certain rose and the price keeps going up and
up and up. Yeah, they know something that maybe somebody
else doesn't know.
Speaker 2 (44:51):
Why on that road.
Speaker 3 (44:53):
Now this auction is online only, right, so people all
over the country can bid. We ship all over.
Speaker 1 (45:00):
You can't talk. If you say anything, then you're just qualified,
right because it's unline silent, a silent auction. You can't talk. Oh,
it's completely it's quiet.
Speaker 3 (45:15):
There's so many things running through my head right now.
Speaker 1 (45:17):
I like to do that to you. I think. Let's
see ronic has got a question.
Speaker 3 (45:24):
On her magnolia. Yes, she says, for the dwarf magnolia tiger,
do the roots go straight down or spread? There are
no trees that have roots that go straight down, palm trees,
and the reason is that there's no oxygen down there,
so trees can't live if their roots only went straight down. Now,
(45:46):
some trees have a tap root to anchor the tree,
and that main tap root will go down, but they
still have the side.
Speaker 1 (45:54):
But that tap roots not necessarily bringing the nutrients right
like the other roots are or not.
Speaker 3 (46:00):
It's more for anchoring. It's the side roots that will
bring in nutriants. Yeah, so on a dwarf magnolia, I
guess the question for Anica might really want to know,
is are the roots going to be is damaging to walk?
Waste Tiger is like maybe a regular size southern magnolia,
(46:21):
and you know with that is something like little Champ.
Speaker 2 (46:24):
You know, you know, I kind of you know, it
depends on how they're watered in the surrounding area. People
think that, oh, you know, these root systems are just
out there to attack sidewalks and roads and pipes and
sewer drains, and you know, roots are doing what they're
designed to do. They're finding water and nutrients, right. You
(46:45):
know that's so if that means there's a leaky pipe
or a crack and a sidewalk where water falls into
and then stays after a rainfall or irrigation, yes, the
root's going to find it. It's going to expose that weakness.
Speaker 1 (46:58):
And it's going to keep using it until it's dried.
Speaker 2 (46:59):
Up, exactly if it does.
Speaker 4 (47:01):
So.
Speaker 3 (47:01):
Some trees have roots like fights. Yeah, I mean, they're
gonna just tear up your sidewalk no matter what. Just
not a spike, spike exactly.
Speaker 2 (47:08):
They're very But what I'm getting at too, is if
you properly water your trees by putting a water system,
you know, at the drip line, soaking it, then it
doesn't give the roots the reason just to go elsewhere,
you know, go elsewhere, and you know it'll it'll keep
them in check. Also, using proper things like root barriers,
(47:31):
which are something as simple as like a plastic barrier
about twenty to twenty four inches down against a sidewalk
or curb, will prevent the roots from from from crossing
over because then they go they have to go twenty
four inches down before they can go over, which will
protect your your sidewalk, your curb, your maybe your planter
(47:52):
or or anything of that sort.
Speaker 4 (47:55):
You know.
Speaker 2 (47:55):
So that's just good tree etiquette. But I think it
really just comes to starting it with the watering. I mean,
the worst watering you can do is just very shallow
watering because then the roots, you know, never really go
down and they're just always looking for water, and so
you got to watch out with that.
Speaker 1 (48:14):
Okay, break time here on BizTalk Radio Facebook Live for
Garden America. Back after these messages, do stay with us.
We'll keep monitoring the comments section on Facebook Live to
answer your questions and share your comments here on Garden America.
Stay with us. Okay, well you're back. Hey. Speaking of
ficuses or the fycus plant, I wanted to let you
guys in on something. A couple of two or three
(48:35):
weeks ago, I mentioned that I transplanted a fycus the
Dana had and it did all what I thought with
the necessary things. After about a week or two, it's outside.
It looked terrible. The leaves were yellow. They were dropping
its leaves and I'm thinking maybe transplant shock. It wasn't happy,
so I took it. I put it underneath by the
front door, which is covered. I gave it some fertilizer,
(48:59):
some HB one er one, and I'm waiting to see
more leaves drop. Only a couple of two or three
leaves might have dropped. It now has green leaves. It's
starting to look really, really good. It's happy. I think
it's happy where it is, and I think the HB
one on one in the fertilizer obviously is helping. But
would you agree that might have been transplant shocked for
(49:20):
a fcus? No, what do you think could have been?
Speaker 3 (49:24):
It could have been, but more likely it's just you know,
it's the cuticle, right. We've talked about that so many
times that if you moved it from indoors to outdoors,
it would lose every leaf, but all the new ones
that came out would be.
Speaker 1 (49:40):
But it had been outdoors the whole time. I just
transplanted it. Oh if that yeah, so it was out.
Speaker 3 (49:47):
It was How could it be shocked? What did you
do take separate the roots or take anything away from
the roots.
Speaker 1 (49:52):
I shook it vigorously and yelled at it. Well, well, no,
se I don't I don't know because it had always
been outside. I just put in a bigger pot. That
shouldn't it shouldn't have. But it looked terrible, and now
it's looking good. I moved it under I'm not going
to move it now because it's got new leaves, green leaves, And.
Speaker 3 (50:10):
If you like where it is, just leave.
Speaker 1 (50:12):
It's not if I like it. If it's if the
fight is likes it because I liked it.
Speaker 3 (50:16):
Wor accommodating the plants.
Speaker 1 (50:18):
So anyway, that's why fight your story. But what they
are known to be a little temperamental, right fcus to
a degree, I don't think so my experience.
Speaker 3 (50:28):
If you just understanding their needs, if you everybody's a
little temper you say the wrong thing.
Speaker 1 (50:33):
It just you know, loses about ten or fifteen leaves.
Speaker 3 (50:36):
You know, when we were I think it was Fronica.
We were answering her question on the magnolia's or right,
whoever it was. But also those are southern magnolias, ever
green magnolias. I don't think you have the same problem
with deciduous magnolias. No, you know, they've got more fibrous
(50:58):
root systems.
Speaker 2 (50:59):
And to be more compact too, you know the tree.
Speaker 3 (51:03):
Yeah, and the trees are smaller the New Zealand hybrids.
The trees are a little bit bigger unless the gophers.
The one that they gopher eight was Felix. Do you
know that one?
Speaker 1 (51:15):
I feel you name your golphers?
Speaker 3 (51:18):
No, no, this is the tree man.
Speaker 2 (51:20):
I remember when you got those. You're so excited and
they were excited that name. That name. What did it
look like? I can't remember.
Speaker 3 (51:29):
It was like a dark pink yes, a ruby flower?
Speaker 2 (51:34):
Remember yees? Oh man Bummer, I know so sad.
Speaker 3 (51:41):
Right now, I have it sitting in water and and
I'm going to see if I can maybe replant it.
Speaker 2 (51:47):
Like your roses sometimes. Yeah, it'll be interesting to see
if it can come back. I don't. They're not as
tough as roses like that.
Speaker 3 (51:56):
No, I know, out of the eight roses that go
for eight, I got six, I save six, two just
are totally dead. But one of them was extremely rare,
So I'm really glad I was able to save it.
Speaker 2 (52:13):
Good good stop. Man's an endless battle, nas states.
Speaker 4 (52:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (52:21):
Something.
Speaker 2 (52:22):
I mean, it's that's got to be so challenging, so
frustrating to deal with that. I mean every day there's right, yeah,
and you know, I mean we all have our own battles.
I don't am not trying to brag, but I mean
in my landscape, I don't have too much. But I
mean people live where they have deer, you know, they
(52:42):
have all kinds of creatures and critters that.
Speaker 3 (52:44):
Will just gofers on your property or No.
Speaker 2 (52:47):
I don't have any gophers. No, I've got I've got squirrels.
I've got rabbits.
Speaker 1 (52:51):
You have ground squirrels.
Speaker 2 (52:53):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (52:55):
Any like right behind me, behind you. But that's not
probably good good land for gophers to beat digging. It's
probably hard, right, imagine.
Speaker 2 (53:05):
I don't know. I mean I used to have a
real big problem with rabbits, and I still have a
pretty good problem with rabbits. But my dogs, I think
are pretty on top of keeping them out of the yard,
so it's not as bad as it used to be.
But you know, the I can't you know. We we
(53:25):
were back in England at that one garden and this
woman had to fully enclose her her vegetable garden into
like a covered thing because of the birds. Remember, you know,
the birds would just come in there and just pick
everything to death. And she's like, this is the only
way I can have plants. Was basically growing in an atrium,
(53:46):
you know. And this was and this was just a
this was just a backyard. This wasn't this wasn't like, oh,
some botanical garden. This wasn't oh like some park, you
know and whatever. This was just in order for me
to have a vegetable garden, I have to plant in
an atrium. I mean, so challenging.
Speaker 3 (54:04):
Veronica elaborated on the area she was thinking of putting
a small tree. She said, it's about four foot away
from a brick wall and she didn't want to damage
the wall, so she was thinking a small flowering tree.
So I think a Decidus magnolia would be fine.
Speaker 2 (54:18):
It'd be spectacular.
Speaker 3 (54:20):
What about maybe even red buds, Like, what about a
weeping red.
Speaker 2 (54:23):
Butt that'd be absolutely gorgeous.
Speaker 3 (54:25):
Yeah, what are they called? Something? Fountain?
Speaker 2 (54:28):
I don't remember.
Speaker 3 (54:29):
Ruby.
Speaker 1 (54:29):
Fine.
Speaker 2 (54:29):
You know it's funny, is I just planted two of
those this week and that house of Myriata I was
talking about, they planted two weeping ones and then one
just a regular forest pansy.
Speaker 1 (54:40):
Hey, next time you're there, check out the roses. They've
got beautiful roses on that problem.
Speaker 2 (54:46):
They're doing something right.
Speaker 1 (54:47):
They were different.
Speaker 2 (54:49):
Everyone was different. Massive bushes. I mean, I hate to
say it, but they had to be using like systemic
something because these plants didn't real They looks vake they.
Speaker 3 (55:03):
Since you mentioned that, Yeah, we were talking. I was
mentioning how I never spray anything. Actually, but I said
that I had fifteen hundred roses and no a fits
anywhere on my property. But I think because I've been
fertilizing and new growth is coming out. I had for
(55:25):
me what was an explosion of aphids two weeks ago,
and that meant that there was maybe a dozen roses
and had aphits, but they were pretty thick where they
were and and almost to the point where I thought,
you know, I should go through and rub them off, or.
Speaker 5 (55:40):
Yeah, the little new growth is that was drooping over
from the way they were mainly on the flower buds.
Oh okay, So anyway, yesterday I was out there looking
at them, and while there were still a fits around,
not as thick though, and.
Speaker 3 (55:56):
I saw a lot of lady bug larvo. So I
think everything's going to be back in control. And then
you started thinking, you know, you're really not going to
have beneficial insects in your yard unless there's something for
him to eat.
Speaker 2 (56:09):
Right, that's the truth, right, that's what they tell you.
They tell people, you know, when they buy ladybugs. So
number one you hit on a great point that people
need to know is that the ladybug larvae, which are
almost like a red and black little crawling bug, it
looks like something that you had, Yeah, it looks like
something you want to get rid of, right, are more
(56:29):
voracious eaters, a lot more than the actual lady adult
lady bug. So those are even more beneficial to have
in your landscape.
Speaker 1 (56:40):
As long as you have something for them to eat
and a reason to be there.
Speaker 3 (56:44):
But what is I say it was a lot of
people are teenagers going to eat a lot more.
Speaker 1 (56:48):
Than an adult, especially an adult lady. We got to
take a break. Okay, we'll give our segments, our next segments,
one of our longer segments. Plenty of time for Facebook
Live questions, comments back after these messages. This is Garden
America BIS Talk Radio Facebook Live. All right, we continue.
This is one of our longer segments, Take advantage ladies
and gentlemen, boys and girls. Lady bugs. That's how we
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left our last segment. So yeah, it's just gracious.
Speaker 2 (57:12):
The correct way because it's real popular. Right now, you
go into the garden center, you see them for for
able to buy, which, by the way, still no deckless nails.
Speaker 1 (57:21):
You need to I know.
Speaker 2 (57:23):
But so the correct way to release them, I'll tell
you the correct way, and it's not the rule, but
it is the most probable way to keep them in
your yard is number one is that, like John said,
you have to have a problem. You have to have
the you have to have aphis. You have to have
something for them to eat. You can't just release elsewhere
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they will they will fly away. They got to go
eat somewhere, right, So no, you're.
Speaker 3 (57:47):
Thinking of marketing, uh, lady bugs. The way they do
with the package of a fits.
Speaker 1 (57:53):
Why not get people the same time.
Speaker 2 (57:57):
But no, so they you have to have bugs for
them to eat, you know. Number one, So don't just
buy lady bugs and just be like, oh, I'm gonna
release them in my yard if you don't have a problem.
Number two is they tell you also that they want
the area to be kind of damp because again, food
and water, so you don't want them to have to
travel too far. So it's nice if you water irrigate
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the area before you release too, just so there's that.
And they don't need a fountain, and they just need
dew or something like a heavy mist. That's all they
really need.
Speaker 3 (58:28):
You don't want to release them in a cactus garden.
Speaker 2 (58:30):
No. And then the last thing too is that if
you release them in the evening, okay, at night time
where it's one of those things, hopefully they'll wake up
in the morning, they'll find water, they'll find food, and
then they just stay.
Speaker 3 (58:44):
Yeah, you know, but at least them in the day,
they're just gonna take off.
Speaker 2 (58:47):
They're just gonna take off right away.
Speaker 3 (58:49):
Yeah, you know, so cooped up, let's leave.
Speaker 2 (58:52):
So they gotta have food, they gotta have water, and
if you release them at night. The goal is is
that when they wake up in the morning they have everything.
Speaker 1 (59:00):
I want to go right to bed.
Speaker 2 (59:01):
Yeah, you know, they're just they they'll just hang.
Speaker 1 (59:04):
Out, waking up, yawning, looking around for something to eat.
Speaker 2 (59:08):
Yeah, that's exactly what they do.
Speaker 3 (59:10):
Tanya and San Jose says that she last fall she
watched a praying manus like two egg cases. Oh wow,
and she wants to know when are the little ones
gonna come out? She keeps checking every day. So, well,
you know, we're further south, so we're what maybe would
you say two to three weeks ahead of San Jose. Yeah,
(59:32):
and I just saw some baby praying manus. Yeah, but
so I would say for for Tanya, maybe two to
three weeks away, depending on the weather.
Speaker 4 (59:42):
Right.
Speaker 2 (59:42):
But I will also say the hard thing about praymantis
egg casings is that you have to check it every day,
meaning meaning you there's nothing.
Speaker 3 (59:51):
Yeah, if you missed one day, they're out and they're gone.
Speaker 2 (59:54):
In the egg casing looks the same.
Speaker 1 (59:57):
It's not like this doesn't change.
Speaker 2 (59:58):
Yes, it's not like not like a bird egg where
it's like, oh it cracked open, something went away. This
this this foam style egg casing that is a premantis egg.
It doesn't change when the premantis release. So therefore, if
you don't go out there every day and check, you'll
never really see the little babies. But when they when
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you do see it, I mean, there's hundreds, if not
thousands of these little primances that are just all over
the place. It's it's spectacular.
Speaker 3 (01:00:27):
And they always say have something to eat well.
Speaker 2 (01:00:31):
And that and that is something too that people make
the mistake with the buying a pram mantis. They keep
them in that little uh you know, soup cup that
they buy them in. Well, they keep them in there
because they want to see them hatch. But if you
leave them in there for a day or two, then,
like John said, they just eat each other and next
thing you know, there's like four left.
Speaker 1 (01:00:55):
Yeah, exactly, the fittest survived. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:01:00):
If she didn't mention, Atana says she does check every day.
Speaker 2 (01:01:03):
Good, yeah, because you know, but the cool thing about
praymantis what I heard too, is that they're very territorial.
So like once they kind of find their areas of
their garden, I hear, you can kind of go back
to that area and you can find the same primantis
in that in that area pretty easily, which is kind
(01:01:23):
of neat. I like that idea of having a pet primantis.
Speaker 3 (01:01:26):
Veronica in Spring Valley says that last week, Tiger, you
mentioned a fertil on product that could help for taking
care of aphis and mildew.
Speaker 2 (01:01:38):
I afids and mildew, which I think is.
Speaker 1 (01:01:41):
We talked about spring in the evening.
Speaker 2 (01:01:43):
I think was that triple action. I think triple action.
I really like this spinosa and soap, and it doesn't
really it's not really for mildew, but it just is
an an all all purpose thing. But we were also
talking about the rose and flower. Remember the Bayer product that's.
Speaker 3 (01:02:02):
Like, yeah, insecticide that you talked about, you did mention
a specific fertilean product.
Speaker 1 (01:02:09):
I think it was triple action.
Speaker 3 (01:02:12):
I don't know. I for some reason, I'm thinking of
a number like five.
Speaker 2 (01:02:17):
Oh, well, there's the fungicide five we mentioned also, Oh
that's just for but that's just for the fungal issues.
That's like that. We were talking about it, like the
serenade the serenade replacements.
Speaker 3 (01:02:27):
Okay, that's what I read.
Speaker 1 (01:02:29):
I think triple action. And did you did you mention
spring in the evening talking with that makes sense?
Speaker 2 (01:02:33):
Yeah, let me see, yeah, oh yeah, triple action is
also fungicide and insecticide. Yes, so I did mention the
triple action probably.
Speaker 4 (01:02:46):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (01:02:46):
Leonar in Canyon Country says that she transplanted a tree
to the ground about two months ago and it looks happy,
it's full of flowers. But she gets some branches that
dry that that dry out and looked like three or four.
Speaker 2 (01:03:06):
Sporadic through the plant.
Speaker 1 (01:03:07):
A tree, is it?
Speaker 2 (01:03:09):
She just didn't say it, She just said tree.
Speaker 3 (01:03:11):
You just said a tree.
Speaker 1 (01:03:12):
A tree.
Speaker 3 (01:03:13):
Yeah, you know, sometimes that happens just uh, you know,
as the trees adjusting to it's its a new location
and growing area, some trees self prune themselves, right, Every
branch that comes out in a tree doesn't stay there forever. Yeah,
you know, you will lose a few as the tree
(01:03:34):
tries to develop a scaffold and a skeleton that it's
gonna keeps its major structure as parts of its major structure.
Speaker 2 (01:03:44):
And then the other thing too, is people don't realize
is like each each branch, each part of the tree
is also tied to a part of the actual root system.
Speaker 3 (01:03:53):
You know, So it's a lime tree.
Speaker 2 (01:03:54):
So if you damage a part of a root system
when transplanting or something, you don't the whole tree might
be fine, but that one branch that you like cut
off that root to plant it or that is affected
by it now and and you know, I mean, you know,
John comes from a family of arborous where he's probably
seen that where it's like, you know, people will try
(01:04:16):
to be like, oh, can you just cut this one
root for me, right like because it's like a sidewalk
or something like.
Speaker 1 (01:04:22):
That sounds like a central nervous system.
Speaker 2 (01:04:23):
Yeah it was. They're like, yeah, it can cut that,
but you might see a whole branch just go away.
Speaker 3 (01:04:29):
Night if the wind comes from the other direction, might
blow the tree. A lot of people forget that besides
feeding a tree, a huge function of roots a root
system is stay ink or the tree.
Speaker 2 (01:04:44):
Yeah. So so yeah, so I mean I think, like
what you said, John, it's probably just a little bit
transplant shock or you're saying like scaffolding like structure. But
if but if she did when planting it, like take
it out of a pot and maybe you know, broke
some roots that might have caused it as well.
Speaker 3 (01:05:03):
So I would just it's not going to hurt on
a lime tree to just cut those branches.
Speaker 2 (01:05:07):
So, and I told you about my lime tree that
I tried to kill multiple times in my yard and
it's flourishing now. So they're very hardy tree.
Speaker 1 (01:05:15):
If you take it out, that'll kill it. If I
was take it out, just remove it.
Speaker 2 (01:05:20):
I tried.
Speaker 1 (01:05:21):
You can't.
Speaker 2 (01:05:21):
You can't kill it. Many lime trees are.
Speaker 1 (01:05:25):
Really why didn't you have a lime tree killing party,
bring people over with you know, hatchets.
Speaker 2 (01:05:31):
And poison pitchforks.
Speaker 1 (01:05:33):
And yeah, dance a little ceremony around it.
Speaker 3 (01:05:37):
Isn't there a round up product made for lime.
Speaker 2 (01:05:39):
Tree just for exactly because nothing else will kill it? Well?
That that is a funny thing. You know. People think,
you know, these herbicides, you know, like round up kill everything.
Speaker 1 (01:05:50):
They don't.
Speaker 2 (01:05:51):
Well they don't. And you know, and then you got
knuck grass, which you could pour like bleach and diesel
fuel and everything on it. You have to have that
specific product for nutgrass killer, right, Yeah, selective.
Speaker 3 (01:06:09):
Round up kill snutgrass, do know what?
Speaker 2 (01:06:12):
Yeah, it controls it really.
Speaker 3 (01:06:15):
Yeah, the old round up or the new round up.
Speaker 2 (01:06:19):
The old round up.
Speaker 3 (01:06:20):
The old roundup didn't work, even at the heavier dilution.
Speaker 2 (01:06:25):
Even at Yeah, I'm sure, I'm sure undiluted.
Speaker 3 (01:06:29):
Like just not that I'm questioning you, but it.
Speaker 2 (01:06:33):
Doesn't you And you know what though, I'm speaking from experience.
Speaker 3 (01:06:38):
Really yeah, yeah, I don't know if I've ever had
much of a problem with nutgrass.
Speaker 2 (01:06:44):
No, you're lucky.
Speaker 1 (01:06:46):
I told you.
Speaker 2 (01:06:47):
It's not worse than getting nutgrass in a flower bed.
Speaker 3 (01:06:49):
I had a customer come in when I was working
in the garden centers. A customer come in and brought
in some nutgrass, and he wanted to know what to
do to control it. And he says, what is this
and how do I get rid of it? He said, move,
I say, and I go, well, it's nut grass and
it's hard to control. He goes, well, what is it?
(01:07:10):
That's nut grass? And I said that like three times,
and finally he screams at me, I know it's not grass.
Speaker 1 (01:07:16):
What is it? Hey, we've got to take a break
on that.
Speaker 2 (01:07:21):
Note.
Speaker 1 (01:07:21):
Yeah, it's driving me nuts, that's what it is. Okay.
Final segment coming up next on Guard in America. Alrighty,
this is one of the shorter segments too. This is
our epilogue. It is final.
Speaker 2 (01:07:32):
Segment, final countdown, And did you.
Speaker 1 (01:07:36):
Want to mention next week we are going to be
going full steam May into June. So we're going to
take a little break next week, take the week off
and prepare because then it's non stop America. Have to regroup.
Speaker 3 (01:07:50):
You kidding me, I can understand. Still, we'll still have
our meetings.
Speaker 2 (01:07:53):
Yeah, you saw the impact of our pre production meetings.
Speaker 1 (01:07:57):
Got us off to a fantastic start.
Speaker 2 (01:07:59):
Yeah, why not really prepared, really prepare?
Speaker 1 (01:08:03):
Yeah, so there we go go.
Speaker 3 (01:08:06):
Continuing with our talk from last segment, Carla says that
she's got her had to move her Mandarin out of
the ground and into its pot, and she had to
cut some of the big roots. So again to compensate
for the root cutting, Carla also cut out some of
(01:08:26):
the branches.
Speaker 2 (01:08:28):
You know.
Speaker 3 (01:08:28):
One of the things I'm not sure of, Tiger, and
maybe you know better. I always cut things back if
I transplant them, you know, so there's less room for transporation,
so the tree's not going to dry out. But I
always used to cut the tops of the trees back,
(01:08:49):
and and I think that the the tips of the
trees are where the oxens that promote root growth are,
so if you cut off all those is going to
take a while for the tree to start producing its
rooting hormones again.
Speaker 2 (01:09:06):
So you know, yeah, that is very true where it's
that balance of what you cut out and what you leave,
because there are very important parts of the tree that
actually you know, need to be there to produce you know,
all the energy and growth and absorb light and things
like that. And so usually what I've been told to
do is kind of like your classic pruning techniques. So
(01:09:28):
number one, remove any dead growth or crossing branches when
you do it, because those should just go anyways, no
matter what you do. And then not remove the top growth,
but remove some of the older like inner growth because
also sometimes that's not doing the work, like you know
mentioned John for the plant anymore. It's just older there
(01:09:49):
and it's not doing the it's not doing the brunt
of the work for the tree. You know, that new
growth that is actually doing the brunt of the work.
I mean they said something like, you know, when you
have like an old leaf on a tree, it might
only be doing ten to fifteen percent of you know,
the whole transpiration and chlorophyll all of that kind of
(01:10:11):
stuff for the tree, where the new growth is doing
seventy five percent of the actual work, So you want
to leave that because that's where the tree is now
getting its you know, life, from its energy, it's it's
air and all of that. So yeah, I don't I
would just recommend doing the old growth and inner growth
(01:10:33):
when you're doing that pruning back, you know, and then
if you have to remove roots when transplanting or putting
into a pot. The HB one oh one is super important.
I think. You know, also any kind of good like
little fertilizer when you're doing that, it's just gonna help
because it just helps minimize some of that shock that happens.
Speaker 3 (01:10:56):
So B one does not think so be what does nothing?
If you're put in B one, don't think you're doing anything.
Speaker 1 (01:11:02):
You know.
Speaker 3 (01:11:03):
Just prior to letting people know we're not going to
be here next week, there was a post from Tanya
in San Jose and she said, I may miss the
show next week. She's I'm going to be at the
Cactus and Succulent Society of America's convention in San Diego. Yeah,
and she's hoping to visit Mission Hill's nursery while she's
(01:11:23):
down there.
Speaker 2 (01:11:23):
We hope you do and enjoy your visit.
Speaker 3 (01:11:27):
Yeah, let Tiger know what time he'll buy you breakfast.
Speaker 2 (01:11:29):
Yeah, exactly. Yeah, shoot me a message, donya meet.
Speaker 1 (01:11:33):
Up meeting greet at Mission Hills Nursery.
Speaker 3 (01:11:36):
Yeah, Carla is supporting you, Tiger, all right, she said,
not grass, nothing kills. She has a whole section of
her yard. They just mow it like grass.
Speaker 2 (01:11:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:11:49):
Yeah, she says, not a bad line actually, but it's
impossible to keep from spreading.
Speaker 2 (01:11:53):
Yeah. And like I say, like the worst situation for
it is in a perennial or like a flower bed, because.
Speaker 1 (01:12:00):
You can't get it get in there, and you can't
get in there. Ye.
Speaker 2 (01:12:04):
In a lawn, it's actually not bad. Like you just
mow it like.
Speaker 3 (01:12:08):
That doesn't grow faster than the lawn.
Speaker 2 (01:12:10):
It grows way faster. But I mean, you know it's
just green.
Speaker 3 (01:12:15):
It's great, a lighter green.
Speaker 1 (01:12:19):
You know it has been studies done. Like first of all,
why does it grow so fast?
Speaker 2 (01:12:24):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (01:12:24):
And why is it so tenacious? You can't get rid
of it? What is it about?
Speaker 2 (01:12:27):
Nodules?
Speaker 1 (01:12:28):
What's that?
Speaker 3 (01:12:29):
Nodules?
Speaker 1 (01:12:30):
Nodules nuts it's all about.
Speaker 3 (01:12:33):
Called nut grass because there's these little tiny nutty nodules
in the soil and if you you pull it, go
to pull it up, so those break off and start
new plants. Wow.
Speaker 2 (01:12:47):
And the foliage is really glossy green and very strappy,
and so it's just a hearty, hearty plant.
Speaker 4 (01:12:56):
You know.
Speaker 3 (01:12:57):
Well, what about the old product that was on the
market called nutgrass snil like that works?
Speaker 2 (01:13:03):
That works, it works, Yeah, nutfertile they have a product
for that. Yep. They do what's called nut grass.
Speaker 3 (01:13:10):
Killer, nut grass killer.
Speaker 2 (01:13:11):
Yeah. There's there's sedge hammer nutgrass, a nihilator sedge hammer.
Speaker 1 (01:13:18):
That's a good thing with sledgehammer.
Speaker 3 (01:13:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:13:21):
And then the nut grass I think it's called nutgrass
killer nutgrass controller from Fertilom, but they're all the same chemical.
I can't remember what what it is, but it's proven.
The nice thing about it is a lot of those
products for nut grass they only kill nutgrass.
Speaker 1 (01:13:38):
My next question was if you do have it in
your your plants and your flower beds, you can spray
everything and it would just kill the nut grass.
Speaker 2 (01:13:45):
Yeah, a lot of them. A lot of them do so,
which is which does make it nice in that way
that it takes a very specific chemical to kill it.
So you you know, I know for lawns, they have
a lot of products that kill the nut grass and
not the lawn.
Speaker 1 (01:13:59):
Okay, we have one minute, one minute in counting.
Speaker 3 (01:14:01):
Oh gee, well I just quickly. Rick had said, wanted
to know if we have any of the native oak
trees down here that he used to have when he
was in the San Gabriel Valley.
Speaker 2 (01:14:13):
What do we have coast live O.
Speaker 3 (01:14:15):
Yeah, and not as many trees is up in that area.
Speaker 2 (01:14:19):
I don't think so. I don't think we have nearly
as many. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:14:23):
So well, guys, I guess that's it now once again,
because Tanya is not going to be at home next weekend,
she's coming to San Diego. We're going to take the
day off just for her. But no, seriously. Then we're
back with a marathon just about every weekend May into June.
Lots of guests lined up, so it'll be kind of
a prelude to summer exactly. That's what we'll call it.
Speaker 2 (01:14:44):
It's May is our month.
Speaker 3 (01:14:47):
Summer sounds like a composition, isn't it? Musical composition, doesn't it?
Speaker 1 (01:14:52):
Hey? For the entire crew. John Beg Nasco Tiger Palafox,
I'm Brian Maye. Thank you to Stephanie Bibs Talk Radio.
Enjoy the rest of every weekend Easter, have a good week,
and we'll do it again in two weeks right here
on Guard in America. Be safe,