April 6, 2024 • 75 mins
Since 1998, Agrowinn Fertilizers has been committed to increasing the health of humans and the health of the planet by creating the highest quality soil amendments. They sell more than 100 tons a year of pure worm castings and fertilizers, along with select gardening products.
Their soil amendments perform well in all growing zones. Agrowinn's products are used by landscapers, vineyards, organic farmers, flower growers, golf courses, and home gardeners. Join us today as we speak with Juerg (George) Spoerri about the company's multiple organic gardening products and their use in the home garden.
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Their soil amendments perform well in all growing zones. Agrowinn's products are used by landscapers, vineyards, organic farmers, flower growers, golf courses, and home gardeners. Join us today as we speak with Juerg (George) Spoerri about the company's multiple organic gardening products and their use in the home garden.
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Welcome one and all. We areback. It is garden America. How
about that the weekend is here.I hope you had a good week.
I'm Brian Main and my colleagues arehere. We've got the A team,
the varsity players, John Big Nasco, Tiger, Pella Fox. We're going
to be talking and doing something somethinga little different today. I think you're
gonna like it. We're actually gonnabe talking about gardening, landscaping, horticulture.
We have our guests lined up today. Maybe go down a few rabbit
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holes, Tiger, but for butfor the most part. Yes, being
sarcastic, it is a garden show. We like to drift sometimes we'll see
how good we can stay on course. Yeah, I think that we have
a lot to talk about today though, being you know, this weather,
springtime, lots happening. I justhad a wonderful tour of my own guarden.
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I posted some pictures to our Facebookpage this morning. What's blooming,
what's comeing? What's ripening? Myorange tree? Did you see the picture
of my orangeree? And how manyoranges are on it? And what's up
with that? They're tasting good this, They are tasting good this. It's
a tasty tree, is what thatis. It is is so yeah,
this is a lot happened crisis.I know. I know periodically you'll say
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I walked outside and I came acrossthis and I never even knew I had
it. That daily that is postedin the or pick. There's a picture
in the post. Was one thatJohn gave me for Christmas? Yeah,
yeah, I think gave you two, right, yes, you gave me
too. The other one is notblooming yet, but that one is blooming.
But it's a really unique multicolored multipedal daily, and so I thought
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that that was fun. I hadnot seen it yet until now. The
bloom, I would say, theplant was there. By the way,
Carolyn Brian says that whatever you haveto say, we'll be appreciated. You
know. That's why we love ourlisteners and viewers so much because they put
up with us. They do,and what's interesting when we do DEVI eight
from gardening, they're quick to jumpin with their thoughts, answers, questions,
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comments, whatever direction you want totake the show, we'll try to
stay on course. Well, aslong as you did that and went off
course, it would John's rabbit holealready one into the show. Shannon and
I watched a movie last night thatmaybe you guys have seen it, and
it it seemed like it took along time to develop. You're waiting for,
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like the plot to begin. Wellit began, but it just it
took forever. But it was reallyenjoyable Dalmatians. No, no, it
was trying to think now. Itwas originally came out in Polish with subtitles.
I don't think I've ever seen thismovie, but go ahead. And
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it was called Forgotten Love. Ohno, it was like a romance novel
and it was It was a nicemovie because you know, it had a
great ending and and as you gothrough it it I just liked it.
I'd recommend it to anyone who wantsto just see a good movie. Now
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you got it in love Forgotten Love. You use the word nice. I've
never heard anybody describe what movie is. It was nice. Really, it's
a nice movie. Great movie.Well, because movies today aren't nice anymore.
No, they're not. That's true. Now, how old is this
movie? Is it older? Isit new? No, it's a new
movie. Okay, subtitles, Well, this one was on Netflix. You
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can go to Netflix if you've gotNetflix, and it came out in English
and it's basically about a surgeon whoa surgeon who gets attacked and loses his
memory. Oh okay, well youcan identify with that. Huh. But
you weren't necessarily attacked and you're nota surgeon. That's true anyway. That
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is a topic. But you know, it's so hard to find movies that
you you don't cringe when you watchanything. I think that's good though.
Every now and then during our showwe give a little movie tip or something
like that. Yeah, so ForbiddenLove Forgot Forgot. I like forbidden Love,
Forbidden Love a different I have.Yeah, probably that's another rabbit hole.
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Yeah, we did not dare venture. There was. I'm trying to
think that it was called Forgotten Dreams. There's a rose called forgotten dreams.
Oh and every year they they doan analysis of roses that came out the
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previous year, sure to tell youwhether or not you should have them.
And you would be able to readin these comments with people that say,
and one person wrote best forgotten.I was gonna say it comes out every
year because the people forget it andthey're like, oh, forgotten dream again.
Wait a minute. I forgot aboutthis and my filter is working right
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now. We've got it. Isbecause I want to say things like,
nah, you don't need to saythat. Not bad things would just take
us way off course, unlike whatI just did. Yeah, the people
can identify with movies, John thenit was good. Yeah, it's still
a little bit of course. Butanyway, the rose auction is next weekend
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exciting and people were I've gotten afew emails from people who saw the podcast
I did with Teresa Buyington very goodand it is out. Did you hear
it? And you said no,But I'm glad people found it. Oh,
you weren't sure how you were goingto hook up with her when we
talked about it a few weeks ago. Yes, it end it ended up
coming out. Okay, So it'sif you google rose chat podcast, so
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three words rose chat podcast. TeresaBuyington is the host, and and I'm
on there for the whole show.And how long was the show the podcast
It's like forty five minutes or something. And you still had a lot to
say right that you. Oh yeah, at the end, I said,
you know, I can go anotherhour if you want. Yeah, that's
beautiful. But if you want tofind out a little bit more about me,
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It's just like this show. Ikind of go off off on a
tangent sometimes, but tell us abouttalks about the auction, talks about where
we went to school, talks aboutgrowing up, a lot of stuff.
It's interesting. People can go onlineand bid this year again, right,
except if you're listening to this onthe radio because it's already happened, because
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this is the day of the act, you're too late. Well and it's
too late. Yeah, but we'llmake sure to post something online. We'll
post the link to it. Whichis one more reason that if we have
listeners on BIS Talk Radio. Welove our bistalk listeners. You can watch
us live on Facebook every week orto Garden America Radio Show on Facebook eight
o'clock in the West Coast eleven o'clockEastern time zone. You can join this
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wacky crew that we have, thislovable crew that we have on Facebook.
We love each and every one ofyou. So that's one way to keep
up with this every weekend. Otherwiseyou're listening to last week's show. We
did get some bids from Hawaii andabout transportation we're delivering to we can't ship
soil to Hawaii. Thus lies therub well. This person that bit on
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a bunch of roses said he couldpick them up in San Jose. Are
you listening, Tanya. Yeah,if someone like Tanya wanted this guy to
come to her place and pick uproses, I could ship them to to
anywhere and she mind strangers knocking onher door. We don't really know a
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lot about the private lives of ourlisteners. Yeah, so no, we
don't anyway, I'm just kidding,but uh well, we'll work out a
way to get him as roses,but anywhere in the contiguous, as you
like to say, Brian forty eightcontiguous. Yeah, we can go ahead
and ship roses after May six,because this year we've got Costa Rica coming
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up and quickly too, and we'regoing to be busy. I know,
it's just so fast. We're gonnatry to do a show on the twenty
seventh, you say, from CostaRica Tiger that Saturday. Yeah, okay,
we're gonna do our best. Yeah, we should have promost. No,
I don't think we'll have any problems. And we'll also be posting some
videos and pictures. Oh absolutely,trips right, people will be following us
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throughout our our fun trip that we'llbe doing. You're gonna you're you're gonna
hang on to me upside down bymy ankles during the river trip with the
Caymans and the alligators. Yes,all that, Yes, just don't tell
me. And then we're gonna godown together on the zip line. Oh,
I'm all, I'm all about that. Yeah, he goes faster that
way. There was a there wasactually somebody posted a video on YouTube this
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this father and son were in CostaRica going down the zip line. Now
apparently on this zip line you canactually break if you want to. You
don't know, just like like stop. So the kids going down and the
kids, oh, he starts toyell and he puts the brake on.
There was a sloth on the cable, just hanging there. That's cool,
and it's like, okay, wegotta so I guess what he did.
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He kind of picked him up alittle bit. The sloth grabs on to
him, grabs on to him,and he continued the zipline. Eh,
I just not you know, Andluckily he saw him in plenty of time.
Oh yeah, because that was theCosta Rica zipline. All right,
John, your quote of the week. We've got about a minute to go
until the first break. We'll bringon our guest. I don't need a
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minute for the quote, because ashort one. This is one that you
like, you like and to thepoint, that's right. This one Brian
says, look deep into nature andthen you will understand everything better. Absolutely,
And that was by Albert Einstein.Al I've got an Albert Einstein story
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from when he was giving lectures,you know, a different universities, so
on and so forth. So onetime he was scheduled to give a talk
and he was sick. He couldn'tmake it. He told his chauffeur,
you're gonna have to tell him,I'm sick. I can't make it.
And he says, why I could. I could give the same lecture.
I've watched over three hundred times.I know exactly what you're gonna say.
He says, Okay, I goahead. So he kind of dressed up
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his Einstein, you know, putthe mustache on. And Einstein was actually
in the audience. He just wasin no condition to talk. He gave
a perfect lecture, and then somebodyasked him a question that he didn't know,
and he said, sir, thatquestion is so obvious that even my
chauffeur could answer that question. AndEinstein got up in the back had a
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cap on answered the question flawlessly.I don't know if after three hundred lectures
I could repeat Einstein, but Iguess if you hear it over and over
again, is that true? Yeah? True story, really true story.
Look it up, as they say, google it, Google me. Hey,
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take a break. Okay, Colleen'slooking forward to Tomato Mania today,
but sounding great back after these messages. On BIS Talk Radio, this is
Garden America. We have returned fromthe break BIS Talk Radio. Thank you
for tuning in the rest of uson Facebook Live this morning, Happy WEEKENDTI
you. I'm Brian Main, JohnBegnasco Tiger Pella Fox. This is our
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little, quaint, humble garden show. We call it Garden America. To
you, Tiger. We're going tobring on our guests and speak with you
this morning on Garden America. Yeah, this morning, our guest is your
story with Agrowin Fertilizers. And Agrowinis a creator of wonderful organic fertilizers,
worm castings, rock dust, allkinds of great healthy products minerals for your
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soil. You're good morning, thanksfor joining us. Good morning you guys.
Glad to be back on the show. Thank you much. Yeah,
definitely, and yeah you've been onour show before. Kind of know how
things work. Uh, Eric,tell us a little bit about agrowin and
how it came about and what youguys do. Okay, Well, we
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have five products and two soil amendments. That means three fertilizers. We distribute
the rock dust agrowin minerals. Wedistribute the agrowin pure organic worm castings,
and then I manufacture the three fertilizersRose flowers Cu Savocata fertilizer that's the four
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four six. Then the acid lowerplant food that's a very powerful one,
which is a six three seven.Does not contain the rock dust and the
worm castings for the reason of itwill be different in the bag. And
I don't get as high numbers asthe soil amendments have lower ntks. Therefore,
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if you want higher ones, youhold that off, so people can
ament that with rock dust or wormcasting or both, but it's still a
complete fertilizer. That's the acid loverplant food. It's for the camellia iseally
hydrangeas any tropicals, and it's verygood for our soils. Uh yeah,
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which is usually clay DG's and uhyou know it likes the fungal activities,
so this is the fungal most dominantproduct they have. And then we have
the palm and lawn food three throughfour NTK and that has the most possible
worm castings within a blend of fertilizersof natural fertilizers, so the acid lover
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and the palm food they are onehundred percent natural. And then the rosen
flowers into Savo Cotto vegetable formula offour four six and TK is certified organic
and the rock dust and the wormcastings as well is certified organic CDFAS.
And did you get started Caliphony Departmentof Agriculture, And did you get started
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creating these products for the home gardeneror was this more farmer based? These
are formalists for everyone, but butno, when you first started creating these
products where these were more like farmgrowers for nurseries, the target was nursery
landscape and homeowners. Yes, absolutely, and I naturally had you always have
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a bigger picture. But the farmersare very difficult to get into and with
the solid kind of granular for usor not granular, but with the solid
materials he blends with cotton, soil, calf, you know, bone meal,
feather meal, so fed or potash. They're all different sizes of particles.
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So there's not like a chemical whichhas a homogen or you know,
all balanced in one little palet thatdoesn't work with natural products. Yeah,
definitely, you got to kind ofuse it as a whole. And you
know these products, you know,being the organic fertilizers, the rock does
the worm castings. You know,is this the time of year that you
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want to start using these products inthe soil for your home garden, in
for your launch here. That's agood question. I always say in organics,
it's not necessarily matter when you're applyingit. It's a matter that you're
giving it to the soil. Becausethe natural products are not water soluble,
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so they don't disperse and leach thenitrates and sulfates into the water. And
not all the products will stay whereyou put it because its dissolves in water,
so you have water run off,you have leaching and all that you
need to do. So at thatpoint, the organic and naturals are applied
at any time of the season.You can naturally timates depending on your budget,
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you can depending on the weather.You can work with all that.
Yes, some people use the moonfaces, so they're planning the deepruiterers in
the leaning face right and growing upthe one like flowers grow up above soil
ground. At that point, you'reusing this on the rising mune. Yeah,
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John, John here is a hugealmanac and moon planter for sure.
You know, he's following all ofthe stars and everything. It's so funny.
It's funny that you mentioned that too, because I saw this funny meme
with the with the eclipse coming thatit showed like the different moon and sun
locations and it's like, this isa solar eclipse, this is a lunar
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eclipse. But it was it wasthere was the Earth and then the Sun
and then the moon, and itsaid, this is an apocalypse. So
if it ever lines up like that, So yeah, yess lips on it,
you know exactly if I want toclip that. Hey, you mentioned
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something very good. If I maymention, the rock dust is also paramagnetic.
The opposite of paramagnetic is diamagnetic,so it's polarizing very well with the
plants. Also, the rock hasvery well balanced micronutrients and macronutrients, where
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the macro would be a calcium magnesiumand that ratio is nearly like a human
supplement should be a one to one. And there's no other rock dust out
there who has low heavy metals andthe balance on that calcium magnesium ratio.
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So so you know, to diveinto the rock dust a little bit more,
you know, that's you know,you're basically you're you're feeding the soil.
You're feeding the area around that plant, so that way the plant can
now absorb more and kind of takeup more. Is that correct? Yeah,
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I would say feeding the plant,you're actually feeding the microbiology by creating
it. Okay, the rock dustis an inorganic compound, is very hard,
so the worm will digest it,you know, an anthropot may go
through it. But it's a bacterializerof the soils and that supplies also then
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the macro micronutrients to break down bythose little critters, so it will it's
actually a bloom of bacterium because theparticle size is zero point zero six millimeter
the largest ones. It's a veryfine powder. You can think about dusting
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the area like powder sugar over acake, or like a flower. Yeah.
Yeah, and so it's a rockflower in that manner, and it
has every conceivable marcro micronutrient in it. Plus I mentioned the paramagnetics magnetism as
well. Yeah, it will eliminatethe transplant shock. So you dust out
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a planting hole for instance, thenyou can mix up with the backfill as
well, and then you can giveit at any time thereafter. Okay,
Hey, hey Eric, we're goingto take a break. When we get
back from the break, we're goingto continue chatting with your with agrowind fertilizers
and we want to know, likelike you're saying, how do you apply
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these products to these plants down theroad. So absolutely questions comments on Facebook.
You know what to do, whereto do it? Comment section.
This is Garden America, going totake a break for our good friends on
BizTalk Radio. Back with YRG afterthese messages. This is Garden America.
Those of you tuned in, welcomeback to the show. Welcome back to
Garden America Bistok Radio Facebook Live andwe're getting some education here this morning.
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Your guests are guest Tiger is sowe continue with our conversation. Yeah,
we were just chatting with you aboutthe products that they sell at agroind Fertilizers
and and John here has a bag. He's doing exercises with the rock dust
that your excels. And before thebreak you were describing how to use the
rock dust as an ability to preventtransplant shocked by kind of lining the hole
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that you dig with this powder toyou know, make sure that the root
system goes goes into it and distributesits you know, minerals and things throughout
the whole thing. Now, ifsomebody was to want to use this rock
dust on an existing bed, howwould you recommend they put it on.
Yes, it's a very fine powder. Oh that's a very good thing.
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And in the backfill dust out thehole. And there is also an ocean.
When you really have a good successwith is when people come to the
nurse and say, hey, myflowers are dropping, my fruits are dropping.
That means you are calcium magnesium deficientor micro macronutrients deficiency, and that
will take care of that so itwill hold more. And also in the
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cannabis industry, they will be growingmore plan sugar basically, and that's very
desirable to hold those flowers. Okay, yeah, and but but I mean,
if you have an existing landscape,it's a very fine powder. Do
you just try to distribute it overthe soil and then water it in correct?
Both ways work. Actually the easyway I put it in If it's
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a small area, you have asmall salt shaker or plastic shaker, and
then you just sprinkle out around theplants. Don't don't put that back in
your kitchen. Have done well?Actually I drink some of that. Oh
my goodness. It's a very intriguingproduct which has also holistic aspects never mentioned,
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So you have to be careful withthat definitely. Do you hear research?
I had acid reflux and I drinkalkaline water from Carlsbad and a little
breeze of rock dust that it saidaloud, but floats is colloidal minerals in
pure form. You don't get thatthat easy, not that many heavy metals,
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you know, because I used todrink diatomaceous earth. So then I
looked at the analysis as I say, wha, well, wait a minute,
I have the patch of product.Hey, at least for the health
part you know, thee is goodfor something else. And in worm castings,
you know a lot of people arefamiliar with that and how you know
what they're supposed to do with it. But how do you recommend applying worm
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castings to an existing guarden too?Is that again? Because they kind of
come in soil form and kind ofcan clump up, do you kind of
drop it down like a you know, fertilizer, you know, do you
only recommend planting with it? Okay, understood worm casting applications. I would
just also like to point out what'sthe difference between the worm casting and wormy
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compost So most other people I don'twant to mention any major names, but
these are mainly made with a wormycomposting process. That means worms and they're
compost to disintegrate, so there willbe not pure castings. How to find
the difference between a wormy composting bagand pure castings. Both will say pure
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castings because the Act Department lets themget away with that. So they when
you have composts and the worms eatthe compost, that means what they poop.
When they poop, that's pure casting. So within the compost is x
amount of castings, and we haveninety nine percent pure casting. So therefore
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the applicationation rates will really help youto understand what is what a ten pound
bag of agroin pure organic worm castingcovers one hundred square feet on the golf
course. We can go as aton per acre. So you can't spread
any of these wormy composts because theydon't have they have too much undigested carbon
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in there. So at that point, to apply the casting is like heavy
pepper seasoning over the soil. Now, if you have a little time to
crowl it, or you move thetop soil so that the worm castings droppings
really bond with the soil surface,it will then hold an insane amount of
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water. That water again releases what'sin the worm casting, which it's a
bag of microbiology basically, and thathelps the soil to break down and hold
and retain moisture. Naturally, wegot enough frain for right now, but
it will really really be perfect duringthe summer time to apply worm casting.
So the warmer it gets, themore you irrigate, the more castings you
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want to put into your soil.Therefore you need less water. It holds
over two moisture, which is insane. Now, now let me ask you
this real quick too, because youknow, is this something So say somebody
was preparing an area to plant,whether it be vegetables or anything perennials.
Now you know some people will comeout and they'll come out and amend their
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soil and do that, and thenimmediately do you want to be planting in
this and watering it because it's almostlike you're adding like a live culture to
this area where if you leave itunwatered or unplanted, does do the benefits
of the worm castings begin to goaway because of exposure to air? And
somehow I think I know there's aback question of Okay, if the castings,
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you can let them dry up havea natural moisture content as we go,
because we want to keep the moistureup so the microbiology is alive.
So if you top dress it,the sun hits it, it will dehydrate.
Right you hit irrigation on it,they will repopulate immediately from the soil
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as well, so it will notlosing its effect. So if you do
have a yeah, a dry bagcastings in a pipe sleeve bag to drop
in a a in a spray ina spray tank, so I forgot they
were there. About two years laterI thought, oh wow, now I
know where they are in that littlecrate there, and so I tossed it
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on the lawn. Whila. Itwas perfect coming off green as well,
so they don't lose its power.It doesn't really matter what form they are,
but naturally keeping a moist and closebag that will be beneficial and out
of the sunshine. You don't wantto bake those bags. Yeah. Yeah,
And another thing I would mentioned forpeople out there that are looking for
worm castings. You know, Johnpicked up this bag of rock dust,
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which you know is actually very heavycompared to what it looks like. Yeah,
it's five pounds. I was surprised. It's a little ziploc bag and
it's five pounds. Yeah. Butalso castings. I mean, when you
pick up a bag of pure castings, it's it's dense, it's heavy.
When you pick up a bag ofcompost castings, you know, it's lighter.
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When you look at the bag,it's bigger, but it's much lighter
in weight. And you know,for some reason, yeah, those castings
are just so dense and so heavythat you could really feel like, you
know, Yeah, there's there's goodstuff in there. John, do you
want to back up a little bitwith a couple of questions before we wonder,
Well, yeah, we do havea few questions. Carla and Huntington
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Beach you're in wants to know ifshe can find your products in Orange County
anywhere? Yes, Orange County farmSupply eh. And there is also Rogers
Garden okay, very good. Yeah, and all the site ones could order
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for you landscape supplies story Yes,and may I mention easy to find locations
for stores would be Fertilizer Online dotcom. That's my website and there's a
store locator Stinder Perfect. Leonor inCanyon Country wants to know if you can
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mail order your product from anyone FertilizerOnline dot com. Oh, you sell
director that will be direct Yes,Okay, there you go, Lenor Fertilizer
Online dot Com. And then anotherquestion from Carlo says that she has a
has worm bins at home and shewants to know if they're anything she needs
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to do to the castings to makethem more beneficial or pure. Not really,
you could just it really depends whatyou feed your worms. So it's
like garbage in garbage house. That'swhat we're all about. Works for humans
too. So depending on what yourworm feed is, that's the quality of
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castings you will get within your cowormy compost in. And then I happened
to be on the farmer's market twentyyears ago and I got the customer there,
which is the second largest thirty fiderganning farmer to Rodriguez, that one
I mentioned because we do this fortwenty years with him. The rock does
some worm casting in the four foursix. And so that means you just
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you know, lost my trail.Hey, hey, hey said you lost
your trailer. You're We're gonna haveto take a break here. Sorry,
good good point. When we getback, we'll wrap up chatting with you
with Agrowind Fertilizers and you know,learn a little bit more about how to
get his product and you know howto use his product. Absolutely, do
stay with us. Those on biztalk Radio, those just joining us on
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Facebook Live. See some familiar namesthat are checking in this morning. We're
going to take a break one moresegment for those on biz talk Radio.
We'll get back and wrap things upwith Yerg. So do stay with us,
and of course, other questions comingin. We'll do what we can
to answer those as well. Thisis Garden America. Brian Main, John
Big Nasco, Tiger Pelafox, Welcometo the show. Back after these messages
on biz Talk Radio, we havereturned BizTalk Radio Facebook Live. Thank you
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for joining us as we continue withERG and wrapping things up. Tiger with
the various products and any last minutedetails we may need to hear. Yeah,
So, as Jerga mentioned, FertilizerOnline dot com is the online source
and online source for his product andinformation, and he does have a store
finder because I'm sure you know,it's wonderful if you cannot get this product
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near you to give it get itshipped. But I'm sure that shipping a
five pound bag of this rock dustis not cheap. That it might be
able to right, it might bea little easier to find it to you
at a retailer near you. You'reI'm sure you're getting ready for the busy
time of year right now. Springis happening here in southern California. Lots
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of people are starting to work intheir gardens, fertilize them, mend their
soils, you know. So youknow, again, thank you for joining
us this morning giving us all theinformation about your products and how to use
them. You know, good luckon this spring. Is are you already
shipping a lot of product right nowor is it starting to turn around right
(31:41):
now for you? It's nearly allyear round a little bit, yeah,
because we also use the stuff forindoors. The rock dust no smell,
the worm casting no smell, Soit goes on in the season. It's
the same like nurseries. The springand the fall is naturally the strongest season.
Yeah. Okay, well, thankyou very much, Eric, have
(32:01):
a great rest of the weekend,and we'll chat with you again soon.
Thank you anytime the year. Thankyou, Take care. And there he
goes yor last name Spury, saywhat's spory? Yorg Spory. We have
a question from Lila Tiger. Shewants to know where you can get those
(32:22):
products in San Diego. Uh oh, well, Wila at Mission Hills Nursery.
Really yeah, I've got I gotthree products here in studio, and
all three of those products came fromthe nursery to be able to kind of
show them off. So yeah,right there in Mission Hills and you are
I don't want to say centrally locatedin San Diego, but you're up from
(32:43):
the airport, You're you're very closeto everybody, you know what I mean,
north and south. I definitely feelwe're central. Yes, yes,
it's just the whole east of theWest and West thing. Yeah, you
know, because being along the coast, you know, we're the farthest west.
You can't there's not you know,not much farther we can go,
you know. Speaking of directions here, we go off the topic quickly,
(33:04):
quickly, so those that have ALEXOwill get various updates, right, okay,
whatever that might be. So weget like, hey, it's going
to rain tomorrow or rain today.And you know what we get in Script's
Ranch, we get high surf advisories. There's a high surf advisory for Script's
Ranch. What are we ten milesfrom the beach? Fifteen miles and there's
a lot of elevation change you andI'm not sure geographically they know exactly where
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Scripts Ranch is, but just hadto throw that in. Speaking of directions
to Mission Hills Nursery. Well,you know, it's funny you say that,
because that's so very true in amodern era as we live in now,
that you would think that they wouldbe able to have more distinct information,
and just to think that how aheadof the time the Sunset Western Garden
(33:50):
Book was in the terms of zones, because before the Sunset Western Garden Book,
it was just USDA zones, right, and USDA zones covered the whole
United States as just a general rule. You lived in this area, you
were this zone. But as weknow in California, you could be close
(34:10):
to the beach, but you arenothing like the climate of the beach that
you could only be two or threemiles away. But you can have a
complete elevation change, you can haveyou know, a you know, increase
or decrease in hot weather or coldweather, you know, I mean,
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and it's not far. So that'swhere the Sunset came in and said,
hey, we're gonna break you guysup a little bit more zones to get
more distinct growing areas. For Southernwas it was it just southern California,
John Sunset, The Western was justsouthern Californa. No, no, no,
no, it was it was allCalifornia. Was it all California?
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And then did it go into Arizonaand that stuff as well? I don't
know if that was later or not, it did go up the coast and
into Washington, Okay, Oregon.Also, I do know John, twenty
four zones as opposed to eleven forthe whole country. For the whole country,
John, what if our avid viewersand listeners, Ryan wants to know
what your favorite gopher trap is?John, how do you get rid of
(35:13):
gophers? You know what? It'sa good question because, as you know,
I just planted a new rose bedand the roses are all doing really
well, and I noticed probably fivedays ago gopher in the area and going
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right up to the rose bushes,and so I made it a priority,
and I've been using the gopher hawksand I it took me five days,
but I finally got that gopher.And that's number thirty one. So thirty
one gophers in the last few weeks, and only one rose right because you
were three, but you said twocame back. Two came back. Actually
(35:57):
one came back. It's one anda half. I think it's coming back.
It's trying to. I mean,there was really nothing left. If
you wanted to build a if youwanted to build a barrier, say around
geez that that rose garden. Howfar down would you have to dig before
you would put the barrier in ground? In other words, how far down
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would a gopher have to dig toget under? What would be a safe
you know, I'm trying to think, because that was something you had to
do if you were going to plantcoffee on your property, right and and
uh, my old partner Tim endedup planting coffee and bonzel and he put
(36:39):
the gopher barrier up, and Ithink that he had to go down.
I think it was a trench thatwas Was it two feet? Yeah?
I was going to say at leasttwo feet? Yeah, I was thirty
six inches. Yeah, it couldhave. It could have been two to
three feet. And then then youhad to back fill it with rock,
right, So, and then I'mtrying to think you have to I'm trying
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was it chicken wire or something theycame up with. I don't know.
It seems to me like any placeI've seen them try that ends up getting
gophers anyway. Yeah, I meanthat that product. You know that that
fence is just like any other fence. All it takes is a little chink
in it or you know, anopening, and they'll find it and then
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now they're in there. And maybeeven worse. I guess. I guess
if you you kind of gopher inyour fenced area, it would be easier
because they can't really get out asquickly, but you would catch it and
kill it. But still that's theyclimb over the fences too. Yeah,
exactly did you see that? Alittle gopher with his little hands climbing up
(37:49):
the fence blind. A nice thingabout the gopher hawks too, is that
they're just dead immediately. Yeah.Yeah, but you do have to be
patient with them, because if youdon't catch the gopher the first day,
it almost pays to just move thetrap. I was going to ask you
that because you said it took youfive days to catch it. Yeah,
(38:10):
but how many times did you movethat trap before you caught it? I
think I've probably got six holes upthere. Okay, yeah, I had
to take a break it up usingtwo traps. We get news coming up
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(38:31):
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John. You love to interact notjust with gophers, but the people who
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follow this show. Now, Paulasays, I think she's referring to the
the gopher hawk. She says,they're hard to set in packed soil.
It could be, but even inpack soil, because I have some areas
that are really really hard and it'shard hard to hew. Yeah, it's
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hard to even get the probe inthere. But if you find the hole
in those soils, the gophers aren'tdeep. They're up near the top.
So a lot of that is justfinding the whole the tunnel itself. Wasn't
there a trap you talked about yearsago that was set up so whichever way
the gopher was going, Oh,that was the MacCabe gopher Macca and you've
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got to used too, okay,and time together with a little string.
I was so desperate to get theone up by the rose bed that I
actually dug down and expose that tunneland put in a Maccabee trap. But
so I had the Maccabee trap,and I had the gopher hawk and Yesterda
last evening I found out the gopherhawk had gotten it. But this nice
(40:22):
thing about the gopher hawk too isthat it pops up and has a little
notification, little note that like whenyou did deliver your mail, the flag
goes out, Yeah you got one. So but this is never ending with
you. It's never going to stop, right, Well that's what John hopes
it will stop. If he doesit enough, it would. But because
you're going to decrease the population orthe word gets out both well twenty three
(40:45):
gophers if they were still there,yeah, breeding, It's it's like pulling
weeds, right, Yeah, youdon't pull the weed just because you want
that weed to go away. Youpull the weed because that we could potentially
turned into five hundred more weeds.Yeah, you let it go to seed.
Yeah, if you let it goto seed. So it's kind of
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like that with the gophers. It'slike if you start pulling all these gophers
out, then, like John saying, now, your whole reproduction cycle gets
disrupted. And after hopefully you knowa few months or a year, now
in the area there's a lot lesspopulation, and then things like natural predatords
like owls or coyotes or bobcats orwhatever it may be that hunt those can
(41:30):
actually keep up with the population inyour area. You have coyotes, John
out there? Oh yeah, youhear them too, don't you know.
I've got you know, really theyhaven't been noisy lately, but normally you
do hear them. And what elsedo you have? Got? Bobcats?
Yeah? I got a rattlesnake.Oh yeah, the snakes will probably really
good well snakes, I would imagine. Yeah. Yeah. In fact,
(41:51):
the last time I was out there, this was a couple two or three
years ago, one crossed the roadwhen we were we were walking down toward
your well, you had your bees, we had your hive. Why did
the snake cross the road to getthe gopher? To get the gophery?
You know, I know this quotedoesn't quite work for this situation. Well
(42:12):
we'll make it work. But it'skind of like the reverse where it's like
ones man's trash is another man's treasure. There was just this recent article from
Massachusetts about them banning two trees inMassachusetts because they're becoming invasive. And it's
funny because I look at these twotrees and they just seem like very common
trees to me and not that biga deal. When was the Japanese black
(42:34):
pine? Right, Japanese black pine? And then the brad prepare and to
us like, we plant those treeshere, and if you can get a
Japanese black pine to grow, you'reexcited because we don't have a lot of
pine trees. And their reasoning was, well, they're super invasive to Massachusetts,
and I think their biggest argument forthem doing damage is that they shade
(42:57):
areas so much that it doesn't allowfor native species to grow under them.
And also then that also hurts theanimal population. Because there's it's it's what
they call like a food desert forthese native species of animals because Bradford pair
and black pines don't provide any foodor shelter for them. And so but
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I just I just always find thatinteresting when it's a very common plant,
but then you find out somewhere elseit's very invasive. And how many people
are asking the question, you know, I want something that's going to provide
lots of shade, so you know, you know where the problem came.
It's the reason why those trees probablybecame such a problem. It was the
(43:43):
people saying, I want something fastgrowing, I want something, I want
it to flower, or I wantit to be evergreen. Yeah, no,
that's good analogy. Yeah. Well, I was reading an article on
invasive species, and if a humanbeing brings something into the country, if
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we're talking about plants specifically, andplants that and then it escapes the garden,
it's invasive, right, right,But if a bird brings the same
seed over, it's not invasive.Yeah, true, meets the difference.
(44:27):
Why I'm not I'm I'm not sureall invasive species are bad. Well,
but if you think about it likethat, though, no, but but
no, but here's the here's theargument on that. Okay, the Japanese
black pine, and they're native toChina in parts of Asia. So to
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think that a bird could have flownone of those trees here to Massachusetts is
very unlikely. What about the uh, the Sino American whipper will well you,
but think about how many stops itwould have made from It's that that
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seed would have been lost before iteven came close to us, right Like,
it's like it just doesn't hop ona flight from Asia and come all
the way across the ocean and thenpoop a seed out here. It would
have that's twice the word poop hasbeen used on our show this morning.
You have one more, one moreand then we're more than we're done.
(45:36):
You know what's interesting, We're watchingreruns of Australian Border Patrol, you know
at the airport customs No, thisis customs agents at the airport and and
and then and what are they Thebiggest things that they're so concerned with is
bringing in just what you're talking about, different foods from other country, uh,
plants, so on and so forth, because they can breed, you
(45:57):
know, disease and bugs and thingslike that. In Australia very protective of
anything that's invasive to their country.And these people they open their suitcases up
and they have all this food.It's like, whoa. First of all,
you didn't declare any of this.This can't come into the country.
This is okay, this no,And they explain why, and it's just
amazing how many people. That's howthings get across sometimes, so you have
(46:19):
to be so vigilant. Yeah,And I mean, and I see where
John saying, like, for instance, like maybe there's something that comes from
the Midwest and it comes over hereto the you know, West coast,
and you know that's that's a differentthing because like you're saying, a bird
or an animal could possibly carry thatinto us and spread it. But if
that plant did not originate in theMidwest to begin with, as a whole
(46:43):
nother story. And that's where Ithink we're at with some of these plants,
because, like I said, theJapanese black pine and the brad repair
are not native to the United Statesat all. Sure, so yeah,
there are areas that they grow fine, they're controlled and they're not bad plants.
But then you know there are otherareas of the United States where they
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actually are very now this being anarab desert here, there's no bad plants,
there's only bad gardeners. That's true. What what should be maintained better?
Are there any trees here that arethat are native to this California,
this part of the country, becausewe're basically a narrow desert. Yeah,
a lot of the trees, mostof the trees were brought here to southern
California. Oh, I mean forSan Diego native what oak, tory pine,
(47:29):
sycamore pretty much are the basic threeare sycamore's native. I think I
could be wrong, Yeah, yeah, yeah, you know, tory pine
is like the only pine. Yeah, you know, and then even then
they wouldn't, you know, didn'tthey trace that back to like not even
here. It just happened to growhere kind of thing, like you said,
(47:49):
it came over on like a birdor something who made that long ocean
journey. Yeah. And then youknow oaks, you know, if you
go into our mountains, there's alot of different varieties of oak, but
nothing really along the coast. Rightright, Okay, break time once again
for BIS Talk Radio. We're gonnacome back. We've got several segments left
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on this this Saturday morning or maybeSaturday afternoon, depending upon where you are
and how you're listening. So questionscomments there. I see people on Facebook
talking back and forth to each other. That's good too, that little Facebook
Garden America community. I'm Brian Maine, Tiger Pellafox, John Magnesco going to
take a break back after these messages. Stay with us. Yes, indeed,
we are back from the break.It was a great break for us.
(48:31):
We trust you had a good break. John enjoys our breaks here on
Guarden America. So what do youwhat do you guys want to talk about
now as we continue? Well,Gina said that she recently saw a survey
to ban the selling of English ivyEnglish ivy. Huh, now you would
(48:52):
say, and in just in Idahoor I don't know, I don't know,
that's like she posted. But I'mnot a big fan of ivy period.
Yeah there. What did you havethat was so invasive on your wall
at your last house? You said, Oh, that was a cat's claw
cat's claw? Yeah, right,given the choice, right, cat's claw,
(49:15):
they're both bad, but cat's clawsit's a nightmare. You can't get
rid of it. And the worstthing is that it goes to seed and
the seats come up everywhere and they'vegot this you know, they've got a
like a tuber tuberous fruit. Yeahthat's like you can't get out. Yeah,
(49:37):
like you dig it, it breaksin half and then it reproduces more.
But English ivy, you know,also it attaches to so much like
it's a parasite, right, Okay, it's one thing that it's like grows
rapidly through an area, but ifit starts climbing up a tree or climbing
(49:57):
into your you know, plant oranything else like that, it actually begins
to kill them. And I canonly imagine in areas where it actually grows
well, because the thing in SouthernCalifornia is that the heat kills it,
right like, meaning you know,if you don't water it English ivy in
southern California, it'll just die off, you know. It doesn't you know,
(50:23):
take to our dry temperatures very well. But if you had a hot,
humid area where you lived, I'msure that stuff grows like seaweed where
you could probably watch it. Youcould probably watch it grow. You know
what you're holding your tongue no,I'm just thinking. There's a variety of
(50:44):
English ivy called Baltic ivy, andI wonder if that's what you're thinking.
You know what you should have saidto him, Cat's clog at your tongue
because English ivy grows. You know, there's you probab never belonged to the
ivy society. No I did not. But there's many varieties of English ivy,
(51:06):
and and most of them grow rampanthere. I mean, they grow
wild. I'm up up houses andyeah, you know, but I mean
what I'm getting at is like,for instance, if you were to go
buy a one gallon English ivy andplant it, it'll you'd have to take
(51:27):
care of it to get it togrow, you know what I mean.
If you were just put it outthere, it probably would not grow very
well all the time, you think, so if you planted it. Yeah,
if I put it in a onegallon can, it which is take
over your house, you think thatThat's what I'm saying. That's what I'm
(51:47):
saying, care of it. It'sgoing to die quickly. Yeah, Like
you have to actively plant it,like it can't just be something that accidentally
falls in your backyard and it takesover, it would probably die out.
But you're right. If it wasirrigated and you play anted it, it'll
it'll swallow a house, like yousaid. But the minute you stop providing
irrigation to it or it can't,it won't accidentally grow where I would say
(52:09):
somewhere like that. It's good rainand good heat. If you if it
falls out of the back of atruck, it'll take over, you know
what I mean? Like because thatthose things are so aggressive and then they
reroot everywhere. So the original plant, you it doesn't even matter what the
original plant was because it's rerooted thirtytimes already and it's crawling towards a river
(52:35):
where it's just going to keep suckingwater up. There are dwarf varieties of
English ivy. There are miniature varieties. Yeah, Paula wants to know what
pok weight is considered. Ah,yeah, A few people, a few
different ones people call it depending onwhere you're from, right, Yeah,
But pok weight is originally from backEast and it's now throughout all the Southern
(53:00):
States, and so it is aninvasive species. Is that like poke salad?
I don't know if it's the same. Well, but no, but
what is what is the variety you'retalking about that's back east? Like what
do you what do you do?You know the botanical name of what they're
talking about, because I because nettlepeople call nettle poke weed here too.
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Oh no, no, you knowwhat I mean, right, Like that's
what I'm saying, like like likeit's not And and because people call nettle
poke weed because when you touch it, it pokes you. And I think
that was a term that people heardthe term poke weed and they put it
on the name of the plant nettlebecause they thought that that's what it was.
But yeah, but poke weed isnot poke weed. If you're in
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other areas of the country, it'sdifferent. Yeah, poke weed is vital
lack Americana. Uh huh. Andand why do they call it poke weed
back there? Does it poke likenettle or no? No, it just
was the name they used to callit that. Do they have any spines
or any what is the origin ofthe name. No? See, see
(54:07):
it's weird, right, but peoplecall poke weed nettle or people called nettle
pokeweed here. Yeah, I wasgoing to try to find a picture for
you and show you the show youwhat it looks like. And then nettle
is funny too here because they're stingingnettle, and then there's other nettles,
(54:27):
and if you have a good eye, oh yeah, I feel like I've
seen this here though it's pretty itgets pretty big. I've seen this here.
Yeah you know, yeah, canyou can you get used? Put
it up to your camera real quickly. We can probably get a good shot.
It usually, uh translates pretty goodvideo wise. Yeah, a lot
of people would see the berry onit, and it's very common. Oh
(54:51):
yeah, that's a good shot,very German easily. But you know when
when when you're a trained gardener andyou've dealt with nettle stinging nettle, you
can see the difference between the nettlethat's going to sting you and the nettle
that doesn't. And but when youdon't know the difference, it's you're looking
(55:12):
at the plants. And I couldjust imagine if like one day you're going
through your yard and you're pulling allkinds of netle out of your yard bare
hands, no big deal, andthen you grab some sting netle. Yeah,
it's not going to be a goodday. No, no, not
a lot of fun. But youmentioned Gina made a comment. For those
(55:35):
of you that are following along withFacebook Live and in the chat, I
love Gina's weather report. Oh yeah, it was like sunny, rainy,
cold, hot, So okay,Veronica says, so that's what people ate
in poke salad. Of course,there was a famous song poke salad.
(55:58):
Annie. Yeah. Is it anythingto do with a turnip green John turnips
or well, I've looked it uphere and it says poke most likely comes
from the Algonquin word po can,meaning bloody. Ah, and that would
(56:19):
mean that would be they bloody.Yeah. So they said the juice from
the berries can be used as incone of those dye kind of berries.
Yeah. Also is a fabric dayYeah, okay, break time. We
have two more segments coming up herefor both Bistalk Radio Facebook Live. We've
(56:42):
generated a lot of conversation on FacebookLive with our topic, at least in
this segment, going back and forthwith the various plants that we've been speaking
of, So keep it up thereFacebook Live questions comments. We're going to
take a break for Bistalk Radio backafter these messages. We have returned from
that break. Great break, goodbreak, Yeah, good break. It's
almost like you weren't even ready.Even though you controlled the coming back from
(57:05):
the break, you weren't ready forit. Yeah, break break for biz
talk, break for our friends onFacebook live. Uh, look at Gena
and Rick going back and forth.Which is good about the comments on Facebook
because not just us, they interactwith each other. You know Rick,
Rick's on there. You know,Rick always has the soil questions. And
we had ur gone this morning talkingabout the agroin products, and I think
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Rick would appreciate the rock test.Rick, if if you missed it,
go ahead, John, because hehe always wonders about soil improvements and how
to amend things. And you know, I know that he is well aware
of composts and the different maneuvers andorganic fertilizers. But I don't know if
Rick is aware of the rock testsor if he's ever used it. But
(57:49):
the way I also associated it's likehumous you know, like humic acid for
the soil. It's or like Johnand Bob's soil optimizer. That's what I
kind of put rock dust in with. It's it's you're feeding all the great
stuff in the soil that you wantto go and do better things with.
And you know, it's not reallylike a fertilizer that you're going to feed
(58:12):
the plant. I'm not sure whenRick joined us, but Rick, if
you did miss any of that conversation, as with anybody else, this afternoon
on a YouTube channel and Gardener Americaradio show, this show will be uploaded
and you can rewatch the show.In fact, you can fast forward,
rewind to any portion and like youmentioned Tiger, Rick, you may get
some good information as it pertains tosoil. Yeah, and you know,
and Rick also you can order itonline fertilizer online dot com. As I
(58:35):
think what he's I think that's whathe said. Yeah, yeah, to
be able to because I don't knowif they would have it where Rick's at.
What else did you find for us, John Well going, I'll back
a little bit more into poke andpoke salad. It said, poke salad's
always eaten cooked, oh, becauseotherwise all plants, of all parts of
the plants are poisonous, especially theberries. Somebody was asking if the berries
(59:00):
can beat, and they look likethey could, right, because they're that
dark purple and it's usually white berriesthat you associate with. So cooking it
is like boiling something to get ridof the poisons. Personally, I wouldn't
take a chance. I wouldn't.That's such a terrible term for a food.
If you need to cook it beforeyou eat it, Before you eat
(59:22):
it, you shouldn't call it asalad because I think most people think of
salad as just makes it in abowl and then you eat it. Well,
first of all, I wouldn't trustmyself to cook it properly to get
rid of the poisons. Like enough, what is that Japanese fish? John?
The blowfish that that's prepared? It'snot blowfish, isn't yeh oh?
That is it is. It's adelicacy that only so many chefs around the
(59:44):
world know how to prepare it.If you cut it wrong and you can
die, I'm not doing that.You know, the chef could have had
a bad day. Remember the nameof the restaurant in San Francisco that Sharon
wrote an article about. It wascalled Blowfish Sushi to Die For. I
(01:00:04):
do remember the title of that.Yes, yeah, I don't know,
but yeah, you should call ita salax. Okay, most people think
salad it's like a raw dish.Here's something else. As we go back
and trace the origins of people,tasting things for the first time. So
at some point with these things thatare poisonous, somebody tasted it and died.
Oh that's too bad. You're aboutbill that new plant. We came
(01:00:27):
across the ate and he died.Really, what if we cooked it?
Oh, let's try that well,I mean, I mean seriously funny,
and then we're going to try itagain after we cook it. I'm listening
to this book about the history ofdifferent plants, and the chapter I'm on
right now has to do with likethe psychedelic mushrooms, right okay, and
(01:00:47):
how they came about, And youknow, it's this whole thing with humans
in this and animals and all thisstuff, and it was just describing on
how a lot of them came frommanures of animals. So it's funny that,
you know, someone came along andsaw this thing growing out of a
(01:01:08):
manure and was like, oh,yeah, this makes a lot of sense
to eat. I thought this wasa good idea, you know, But
now I wonder if in some ofthese circumstances like you brought up, it
was desperation. People were starving,they needed to eat and had to take
a chance. Yeah, it itpainted a picture more of these like weird
(01:01:29):
doctor healer people would go out andlike we're like the first plant hunters,
you know, meaning like meaning likeif you had that mindset that you were
going to be this doctor, thishealer, you would go and wander nature
and you would eat things and thensee how you react to be able to
then maybe give that to people tohelp. And wow. But I'm like,
(01:01:52):
how many of those healers died alongthe way? Okay? Yeah,
okay, So Rick just responded,Okay did he did he hear? He
said he has used rock dust.He was late today, he had ice
surgery this week. Woke up late. Yes, Tiger, I am into
soil science, build the soil.Okay, oh, thanks for joining us,
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even though you're late. You lookon the eye. Surgery just looks.
Everyone's well. John just looks atme as I talk and just smirt.
John came in and John brought aninteresting mood into the studio. Today.
Is on his mind? Yeah,I do have so much on that.
That's okay. At least he's here. He made that long drive.
(01:02:34):
Yeah, I always think about that. I listened to the podcast I did
all the way in. Yeah,critiquing yourself should have said something different,
should have done Yeah, exactly,And like, why why did I have
to say you know so many times? You know, it's interesting that you
say that because in radio when you'reon the air, I don't know if
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they do it so much these days, but we would have maybe once or
twice a week it's down with aprogram director and we'd listen to the show
and he would point out things likethat, were you aware that you always
said? You know? Are youaware that you always did this? And
that, let's try to work onthat. Use another word for that,
don't do that. And it's veryinteresting because just like you said, then
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you start picking it apart, likeI'll go home and watch about fifteen minutes
of this show on YouTube. Ido the same thing. Oh why do
I do that? Oh? Johndoes this? Tiger does it? Okay?
You know, it's just a wayto keep up because first of all,
you're your own worst critic, butsometimes you do things that somebody else
points out to you, and yougo, I do do that, don't
I. It's a habit there wasin this show earlier. Did you hear
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John call our guest urg urine Urine? No, we can go back and
this. Yeah. I didn't wantto say anything at the time, but
it was like, hey, yourbrother's got a question. He does.
My brother moved to northern Michigan.And first of all, you're like,
you can tell he's a gardener.Why would you move to northern Michigan closer
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closer to Canada where there is nowarm or you know, maybe you just
you know, I guess you couldbe a gardener up there because you would
garden differently. You get time righthere, you get what you get time
to rest. You can rest allwinter, so all seven months of it.
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Yeah, where far back does hetrim his high ranges? Yeah,
he wants to know. And it'sdifferent in Michigan than it is in California.
And it's different with new hydranges.Right. First of all, if
they're the newer high ranges, endlesssummer and that whole endless series right just
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never ends. But that endless seriesreblooms, so you can cut those back
to any height you want in thespring. But if they're regular, the
older hydrange of macrophile is they onlybloom on old wood. So if you
cut back too far, you're cuttingback all the flowers and you won't get
any blooms. So it depends onwhat variety they are. Dave and I
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will say though that you know theyget some really beautiful blooms, big hydrangea
flowers. Well they also because ofthe acid soils. Yeah, blue blue.
Yeah, we're in California. We'restruggling to get blue, struggling to
get any reasonable color. You know, they're all kind of faded. They
look they look faded. They're sovibrant back there where they have the rich
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exactly right, yes, and Iknow Shannon, that's one of her favorites
hydrangers. Right, yeah, howare how are your doing? I mean,
I'm sure they're still just barely comingout of dormancy right now. But
you know, the the macro filesare all the macrophiles are all butted and
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leafing out. But the other typeincredible. I can't tell if it's dead
or if it's it's just late.Yeah, it's still coming because you know,
those are the ones that really don'tdo that well. Here. They
like colder temperatures, and it didbloom last year, and it bloomed repeatedly,
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so I don't know, we'll findout. Okay, still early then,
yeah, I do after the break. Go ahead, we have a
break in a minute. Well,I was just going to mention that I'd
try a lot of plants outdoors becauseShannon's gotten into growing plants on the windowsill.
So when they're mostly dead, Itake them outside and plant them.
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And I have a piggyback plant thatis doing really well outdoors, and I
always wanted to plant when outdoors justto see what it would do, because
I know they're native up into Alaska. What's a piggyback plant? You don't
know what the piggy bag. We'regonna take a break that really, that's
the topic after we return from thebreak on the other side, the piggyback
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plant. Here on Guard in America. One more segment. Okay, those
on BIS Talk Radio, Facebook Live, stay with us. Hanging there,
We're almost there. I'm Brian Main, John Beg, Nascar, Tager Pella
Fox again. One more segment hereon Guard in America. All right,
we are back. We're talking piggyback, the piggyback plant. What have you
found? Tiger Tolma mens zz Menzciz Ci. Yeah, it's a really
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common house plant, really does it? Is it? From the year by
looking at it, tiger, No, it's not. It looks like a
hookara or hoo chera or however youchoose to say it. But I see
why it's called the piggyback plant becauseas its large leaf right and then on
top of it as this little babyleaf that just sits right on top of
the large lea. So I cansee why it's called the piggyback. But
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I don't. I don't know ifI've seen that, like really it's called
and huh it used to be oneof the most common house plants really and
maybe more so bad he doesn't requirea lot of light. And oh,
it's got a really neat flower.Oh, I've never seen a bloom.
That's the main reason I wanted toplant it out. Really, I mean,
(01:08:18):
it looks like it's very small.You know what it looks like to
me. Mimulus flower, yeah,monkey flower, monkey flower, Yeah,
very neat. I mean it lookslike it's kind of small, and it
like a hookra or like a whatdo they call them coral bell plant?
Like it looks like it comes upon a little spire and hangs down like
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that. Yeah, that's cool.I have to look for that. Maybe
maybe we do have them, andit is more common than I think,
but I'm not familiar with. Well, you know, the leaf isn't spectacular,
right, it's just a common leaf. Yeah, so maybe it's not
as popular as it used to be. Yeah. Well, I think that's
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kind of fun though, the littleleaflet that comes out, especially you said
when it blooms too. Yeah.Well, we don't know the size of
the bloom or anything. Yeah,but we'll see. Is do you know,
is that little leaf that comes outa new leaf? Yes, so
it's like that's how it reproduces leaves, right, Oh okay, it kind
of it's funny because it kind oflooks like Brian like like that's meant to
(01:09:24):
just always be there. Oh yeah, right. Like there's a plant called
a a butcher's broom okay, andit has a leaf and then the the
leaf gets a little red berry onthe leaf and it's just kind of like
interesting like that like that's you knownormally like the berries will come off of
another part or something like that.But the butcher's broom has a leaf,
(01:09:45):
then it gets a flower on theleaf and then that turns into a red
berry. Uh. That's only onfemale plants. Oh is it? Yeah,
I didn't they're dioecious. Oh okay, truscus. It's the type of
rus us, right, yep.Dave said that the tag on his hydrangea
is Ariba. That must be oneof the Yeah, and it is.
(01:10:11):
It is. It's a new repeatblooming hydrangea. Yeah. I don't know
if that's going to be an oldvariety hydrangea with the name Adiba. Yeah.
So you can go ahead and uhuh cut those anyway you want,
Dave get back. I would justleave it until after it was done blooming
(01:10:33):
and then maybe cut the old bloomsoff. But you know, if they're
too big now, or if there'sdead parts, just go ahead and cut
them back. I was gonna say. I would think there it would almost
be self pruning, right, meaningmeaning he gets so much weather that the
plant's gonna kind of, you know, have dead parts. Yeah. I
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don't know if the new ones areheartier than the others, but we would
get you know, down in theDetroit area, we would at frost damage,
freeze damage on yeah stranges. Soit's like knowing, you know,
pruning roses back there. All youdo is cut off the dead. Yeah,
when you the next season, youjust go in there and you cut
out all the dead parts and it'sactually the perfect size. There was no
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pruning necessary. Dave, by theway, apologized for getting a little off
topic. Well, it must nothave heard the first part of the show.
Apology accepted, because there really isno topic. You know, we're
happy to talk about any true.Yeah, yeah, Dave, you haven't
(01:11:35):
been listening to long enough then theall the different topics we've been covering.
He also said that we're the best, which is true, and for Brian,
I think he's saying, go Wings. You know, it's funny you
mentioned that day because in my videogame right now, my NHL Hockey video
game, I am the Detroit RedWings. Dave, that's my team.
(01:11:57):
Wow. Wow, So there yougo playing career mode. Oh yeah,
closest I can get to reliving myglory days. Do you ever go skating
anymore? No? No, youknow it's funny because I played hockey.
To me, just skating around ina circle's boarding? Fine, No,
I want a hockey stick in apuck. Yeah, I mean maybe the
(01:12:18):
first ten minutes and then it's like, okay, now what now what do
we do? Yeah? I mean, have you ice skated. I've ice
skated, and it's fun to mebecause every time I well, because every
time I do it it's new.Yeah, like meaning like I don't go
enough to do anything of just stayingupright is good enough for me. Got
(01:12:39):
you, I got your weak anklesor your ankles wobbly surf shouldn't Yeah,
don't you need strong angles angles anklesfor surfing? I don't know. I
guess I don't know. I meanyou do for skiing? You know,
you know it's interesting because just likesurfing, like snow skiing, all that
requires a center of gravity. Solike you take your nose to your knees
(01:13:01):
to your feet and draw draw aline, and that's that's your center of
gravity, and that's that's you workfrom that. Yeah, And I would
imagine the same thing. I didn'tsurf as much as you did, but
I surfed a little bit like anice skate I could ski because it's all
kind of the same thing, justapplied maybe a bit differently. Yeah,
But it's just funny, like becauseice skating isn't something like you would be
(01:13:24):
really fun to do, is ifyou lived in an area where like a
river froze or creeks, and youcan go fifty miles. Like you're saying,
it's not really fun to just goin a rink and just go around,
and certain would do that. Butif you had a trail, sure
that you can fall so a wayto get around. Yeah, that would
be really like cross country skiing,only much faster. Yeah, I would.
(01:13:45):
That would be fun to do atrail. Hey, we're going to
skate down to this town. It'sabout twenty miles south. Yeah, get
there in maybe forty five minutes exactly, however long it takes. Yeah,
that would be neat. Do theydo that in Michigan? Ice creet ice
skate down a creek or to getsomeplace from point A to point B.
You know what you always did inMichigan was after the first snow, you
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built banks, then got the hoseout and filled it with water and low
free little ponds. Yes, everybodywould do that long time ago. We
were in Chicago back in the latesixties, and they would during the winter
time, they would hose down tenniscourts and they would freeze and you could
ice skate on the tennis court.Okay, yeah, hey on well,
(01:14:31):
Hory John because we have to bailout. Oh okay, just wondered if
there was any news about our upcominglive show. No, nothing, you're
working on it. Yeah, Ineed to follow with John Clement's about that.
Ryan, We are working on that, Carla. Yes, we'll be
here next week, actually next twoweeks, right, yeah, because we
are working the day before we leavenext week we have Christa. John is
(01:14:53):
not here the week after we hadhis show right before we're going to leave
for coach. Okay, Hey,thank you so much again, as we
always say, running late and soundinggreat. Thank you for tuning in those
on BizTalk Radio, Facebook Live.Enjoy the rest of your weekend, have
a safe week, and we'll doit again next week. I'm Brian Maine,
John Big Nascar, Tiger Pella Fox. This is Garden America. Thank
you so much for listening and watching. Again, be safe. We'll do
(01:15:14):
it again next weekend. Take care,
Welcome one and all. We areback. It is garden America. How
about that the weekend is here.I hope you had a good week.
I'm Brian Main and my colleagues arehere. We've got the A team,
the varsity players, John Big Nasco, Tiger, Pella Fox. We're going
to be talking and doing something somethinga little different today. I think you're
gonna like it. We're actually gonnabe talking about gardening, landscaping, horticulture.
We have our guests lined up today. Maybe go down a few rabbit
(00:20):
holes, Tiger, but for butfor the most part. Yes, being
sarcastic, it is a garden show. We like to drift sometimes we'll see
how good we can stay on course. Yeah, I think that we have
a lot to talk about today though, being you know, this weather,
springtime, lots happening. I justhad a wonderful tour of my own guarden.
(00:41):
I posted some pictures to our Facebookpage this morning. What's blooming,
what's comeing? What's ripening? Myorange tree? Did you see the picture
of my orangeree? And how manyoranges are on it? And what's up
with that? They're tasting good this, They are tasting good this. It's
a tasty tree, is what thatis. It is is so yeah,
this is a lot happened crisis.I know. I know periodically you'll say
(01:03):
I walked outside and I came acrossthis and I never even knew I had
it. That daily that is postedin the or pick. There's a picture
in the post. Was one thatJohn gave me for Christmas? Yeah,
yeah, I think gave you two, right, yes, you gave me
too. The other one is notblooming yet, but that one is blooming.
But it's a really unique multicolored multipedal daily, and so I thought
(01:30):
that that was fun. I hadnot seen it yet until now. The
bloom, I would say, theplant was there. By the way,
Carolyn Brian says that whatever you haveto say, we'll be appreciated. You
know. That's why we love ourlisteners and viewers so much because they put
up with us. They do,and what's interesting when we do DEVI eight
from gardening, they're quick to jumpin with their thoughts, answers, questions,
(01:55):
comments, whatever direction you want totake the show, we'll try to
stay on course. Well, aslong as you did that and went off
course, it would John's rabbit holealready one into the show. Shannon and
I watched a movie last night thatmaybe you guys have seen it, and
it it seemed like it took along time to develop. You're waiting for,
(02:15):
like the plot to begin. Wellit began, but it just it
took forever. But it was reallyenjoyable Dalmatians. No, no, it
was trying to think now. Itwas originally came out in Polish with subtitles.
I don't think I've ever seen thismovie, but go ahead. And
(02:36):
it was called Forgotten Love. Ohno, it was like a romance novel
and it was It was a nicemovie because you know, it had a
great ending and and as you gothrough it it I just liked it.
I'd recommend it to anyone who wantsto just see a good movie. Now
(02:58):
you got it in love Forgotten Love. You use the word nice. I've
never heard anybody describe what movie is. It was nice. Really, it's
a nice movie. Great movie.Well, because movies today aren't nice anymore.
No, they're not. That's true. Now, how old is this
movie? Is it older? Isit new? No, it's a new
movie. Okay, subtitles, Well, this one was on Netflix. You
(03:20):
can go to Netflix if you've gotNetflix, and it came out in English
and it's basically about a surgeon whoa surgeon who gets attacked and loses his
memory. Oh okay, well youcan identify with that. Huh. But
you weren't necessarily attacked and you're nota surgeon. That's true anyway. That
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is a topic. But you know, it's so hard to find movies that
you you don't cringe when you watchanything. I think that's good though.
Every now and then during our showwe give a little movie tip or something
like that. Yeah, so ForbiddenLove Forgot Forgot. I like forbidden Love,
Forbidden Love a different I have.Yeah, probably that's another rabbit hole.
(04:09):
Yeah, we did not dare venture. There was. I'm trying to
think that it was called Forgotten Dreams. There's a rose called forgotten dreams.
Oh and every year they they doan analysis of roses that came out the
(04:29):
previous year, sure to tell youwhether or not you should have them.
And you would be able to readin these comments with people that say,
and one person wrote best forgotten.I was gonna say it comes out every
year because the people forget it andthey're like, oh, forgotten dream again.
Wait a minute. I forgot aboutthis and my filter is working right
(04:49):
now. We've got it. Isbecause I want to say things like,
nah, you don't need to saythat. Not bad things would just take
us way off course, unlike whatI just did. Yeah, the people
can identify with movies, John thenit was good. Yeah, it's still
a little bit of course. Butanyway, the rose auction is next weekend
(05:10):
exciting and people were I've gotten afew emails from people who saw the podcast
I did with Teresa Buyington very goodand it is out. Did you hear
it? And you said no,But I'm glad people found it. Oh,
you weren't sure how you were goingto hook up with her when we
talked about it a few weeks ago. Yes, it end it ended up
coming out. Okay, So it'sif you google rose chat podcast, so
(05:38):
three words rose chat podcast. TeresaBuyington is the host, and and I'm
on there for the whole show.And how long was the show the podcast
It's like forty five minutes or something. And you still had a lot to
say right that you. Oh yeah, at the end, I said,
you know, I can go anotherhour if you want. Yeah, that's
beautiful. But if you want tofind out a little bit more about me,
(06:00):
It's just like this show. Ikind of go off off on a
tangent sometimes, but tell us abouttalks about the auction, talks about where
we went to school, talks aboutgrowing up, a lot of stuff.
It's interesting. People can go onlineand bid this year again, right,
except if you're listening to this onthe radio because it's already happened, because
(06:23):
this is the day of the act, you're too late. Well and it's
too late. Yeah, but we'llmake sure to post something online. We'll
post the link to it. Whichis one more reason that if we have
listeners on BIS Talk Radio. Welove our bistalk listeners. You can watch
us live on Facebook every week orto Garden America Radio Show on Facebook eight
o'clock in the West Coast eleven o'clockEastern time zone. You can join this
(06:44):
wacky crew that we have, thislovable crew that we have on Facebook.
We love each and every one ofyou. So that's one way to keep
up with this every weekend. Otherwiseyou're listening to last week's show. We
did get some bids from Hawaii andabout transportation we're delivering to we can't ship
soil to Hawaii. Thus lies therub well. This person that bit on
(07:08):
a bunch of roses said he couldpick them up in San Jose. Are
you listening, Tanya. Yeah,if someone like Tanya wanted this guy to
come to her place and pick uproses, I could ship them to to
anywhere and she mind strangers knocking onher door. We don't really know a
(07:29):
lot about the private lives of ourlisteners. Yeah, so no, we
don't anyway, I'm just kidding,but uh well, we'll work out a
way to get him as roses,but anywhere in the contiguous, as you
like to say, Brian forty eightcontiguous. Yeah, we can go ahead
and ship roses after May six,because this year we've got Costa Rica coming
(07:55):
up and quickly too, and we'regoing to be busy. I know,
it's just so fast. We're gonnatry to do a show on the twenty
seventh, you say, from CostaRica Tiger that Saturday. Yeah, okay,
we're gonna do our best. Yeah, we should have promost. No,
I don't think we'll have any problems. And we'll also be posting some
videos and pictures. Oh absolutely,trips right, people will be following us
(08:15):
throughout our our fun trip that we'llbe doing. You're gonna you're you're gonna
hang on to me upside down bymy ankles during the river trip with the
Caymans and the alligators. Yes,all that, Yes, just don't tell
me. And then we're gonna godown together on the zip line. Oh,
I'm all, I'm all about that. Yeah, he goes faster that
way. There was a there wasactually somebody posted a video on YouTube this
(08:37):
this father and son were in CostaRica going down the zip line. Now
apparently on this zip line you canactually break if you want to. You
don't know, just like like stop. So the kids going down and the
kids, oh, he starts toyell and he puts the brake on.
There was a sloth on the cable, just hanging there. That's cool,
and it's like, okay, wegotta so I guess what he did.
(08:58):
He kind of picked him up alittle bit. The sloth grabs on to
him, grabs on to him,and he continued the zipline. Eh,
I just not you know, Andluckily he saw him in plenty of time.
Oh yeah, because that was theCosta Rica zipline. All right,
John, your quote of the week. We've got about a minute to go
until the first break. We'll bringon our guest. I don't need a
(09:20):
minute for the quote, because ashort one. This is one that you
like, you like and to thepoint, that's right. This one Brian
says, look deep into nature andthen you will understand everything better. Absolutely,
And that was by Albert Einstein.Al I've got an Albert Einstein story
(09:43):
from when he was giving lectures,you know, a different universities, so
on and so forth. So onetime he was scheduled to give a talk
and he was sick. He couldn'tmake it. He told his chauffeur,
you're gonna have to tell him,I'm sick. I can't make it.
And he says, why I could. I could give the same lecture.
I've watched over three hundred times.I know exactly what you're gonna say.
He says, Okay, I goahead. So he kind of dressed up
(10:07):
his Einstein, you know, putthe mustache on. And Einstein was actually
in the audience. He just wasin no condition to talk. He gave
a perfect lecture, and then somebodyasked him a question that he didn't know,
and he said, sir, thatquestion is so obvious that even my
chauffeur could answer that question. AndEinstein got up in the back had a
(10:31):
cap on answered the question flawlessly.I don't know if after three hundred lectures
I could repeat Einstein, but Iguess if you hear it over and over
again, is that true? Yeah? True story, really true story.
Look it up, as they say, google it, Google me. Hey,
(10:52):
take a break. Okay, Colleen'slooking forward to Tomato Mania today,
but sounding great back after these messages. On BIS Talk Radio, this is
Garden America. We have returned fromthe break BIS Talk Radio. Thank you
for tuning in the rest of uson Facebook Live this morning, Happy WEEKENDTI
you. I'm Brian Main, JohnBegnasco Tiger Pella Fox. This is our
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little, quaint, humble garden show. We call it Garden America. To
you, Tiger. We're going tobring on our guests and speak with you
this morning on Garden America. Yeah, this morning, our guest is your
story with Agrowin Fertilizers. And Agrowinis a creator of wonderful organic fertilizers,
worm castings, rock dust, allkinds of great healthy products minerals for your
(11:37):
soil. You're good morning, thanksfor joining us. Good morning you guys.
Glad to be back on the show. Thank you much. Yeah,
definitely, and yeah you've been onour show before. Kind of know how
things work. Uh, Eric,tell us a little bit about agrowin and
how it came about and what youguys do. Okay, Well, we
(12:00):
have five products and two soil amendments. That means three fertilizers. We distribute
the rock dust agrowin minerals. Wedistribute the agrowin pure organic worm castings,
and then I manufacture the three fertilizersRose flowers Cu Savocata fertilizer that's the four
(12:26):
four six. Then the acid lowerplant food that's a very powerful one,
which is a six three seven.Does not contain the rock dust and the
worm castings for the reason of itwill be different in the bag. And
I don't get as high numbers asthe soil amendments have lower ntks. Therefore,
(12:48):
if you want higher ones, youhold that off, so people can
ament that with rock dust or wormcasting or both, but it's still a
complete fertilizer. That's the acid loverplant food. It's for the camellia iseally
hydrangeas any tropicals, and it's verygood for our soils. Uh yeah,
(13:13):
which is usually clay DG's and uhyou know it likes the fungal activities,
so this is the fungal most dominantproduct they have. And then we have
the palm and lawn food three throughfour NTK and that has the most possible
worm castings within a blend of fertilizersof natural fertilizers, so the acid lover
(13:41):
and the palm food they are onehundred percent natural. And then the rosen
flowers into Savo Cotto vegetable formula offour four six and TK is certified organic
and the rock dust and the wormcastings as well is certified organic CDFAS.
And did you get started Caliphony Departmentof Agriculture, And did you get started
(14:05):
creating these products for the home gardeneror was this more farmer based? These
are formalists for everyone, but butno, when you first started creating these
products where these were more like farmgrowers for nurseries, the target was nursery
landscape and homeowners. Yes, absolutely, and I naturally had you always have
(14:31):
a bigger picture. But the farmersare very difficult to get into and with
the solid kind of granular for usor not granular, but with the solid
materials he blends with cotton, soil, calf, you know, bone meal,
feather meal, so fed or potash. They're all different sizes of particles.
(14:54):
So there's not like a chemical whichhas a homogen or you know,
all balanced in one little palet thatdoesn't work with natural products. Yeah,
definitely, you got to kind ofuse it as a whole. And you
know these products, you know,being the organic fertilizers, the rock does
the worm castings. You know,is this the time of year that you
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want to start using these products inthe soil for your home garden, in
for your launch here. That's agood question. I always say in organics,
it's not necessarily matter when you're applyingit. It's a matter that you're
giving it to the soil. Becausethe natural products are not water soluble,
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so they don't disperse and leach thenitrates and sulfates into the water. And
not all the products will stay whereyou put it because its dissolves in water,
so you have water run off,you have leaching and all that you
need to do. So at thatpoint, the organic and naturals are applied
at any time of the season.You can naturally timates depending on your budget,
(16:02):
you can depending on the weather.You can work with all that.
Yes, some people use the moonfaces, so they're planning the deepruiterers in
the leaning face right and growing upthe one like flowers grow up above soil
ground. At that point, you'reusing this on the rising mune. Yeah,
(16:25):
John, John here is a hugealmanac and moon planter for sure.
You know, he's following all ofthe stars and everything. It's so funny.
It's funny that you mentioned that too, because I saw this funny meme
with the with the eclipse coming thatit showed like the different moon and sun
locations and it's like, this isa solar eclipse, this is a lunar
(16:45):
eclipse. But it was it wasthere was the Earth and then the Sun
and then the moon, and itsaid, this is an apocalypse. So
if it ever lines up like that, So yeah, yess lips on it,
you know exactly if I want toclip that. Hey, you mentioned
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something very good. If I maymention, the rock dust is also paramagnetic.
The opposite of paramagnetic is diamagnetic,so it's polarizing very well with the
plants. Also, the rock hasvery well balanced micronutrients and macronutrients, where
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the macro would be a calcium magnesiumand that ratio is nearly like a human
supplement should be a one to one. And there's no other rock dust out
there who has low heavy metals andthe balance on that calcium magnesium ratio.
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So so you know, to diveinto the rock dust a little bit more,
you know, that's you know,you're basically you're you're feeding the soil.
You're feeding the area around that plant, so that way the plant can
now absorb more and kind of takeup more. Is that correct? Yeah,
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I would say feeding the plant,you're actually feeding the microbiology by creating
it. Okay, the rock dustis an inorganic compound, is very hard,
so the worm will digest it,you know, an anthropot may go
through it. But it's a bacterializerof the soils and that supplies also then
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the macro micronutrients to break down bythose little critters, so it will it's
actually a bloom of bacterium because theparticle size is zero point zero six millimeter
the largest ones. It's a veryfine powder. You can think about dusting
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the area like powder sugar over acake, or like a flower. Yeah.
Yeah, and so it's a rockflower in that manner, and it
has every conceivable marcro micronutrient in it. Plus I mentioned the paramagnetics magnetism as
well. Yeah, it will eliminatethe transplant shock. So you dust out
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a planting hole for instance, thenyou can mix up with the backfill as
well, and then you can giveit at any time thereafter. Okay,
Hey, hey Eric, we're goingto take a break. When we get
back from the break, we're goingto continue chatting with your with agrowind fertilizers
and we want to know, likelike you're saying, how do you apply
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these products to these plants down theroad. So absolutely questions comments on Facebook.
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Your guests are guest Tiger is sowe continue with our conversation. Yeah,
we were just chatting with you aboutthe products that they sell at agroind Fertilizers
and and John here has a bag. He's doing exercises with the rock dust
that your excels. And before thebreak you were describing how to use the
rock dust as an ability to preventtransplant shocked by kind of lining the hole
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that you dig with this powder toyou know, make sure that the root
system goes goes into it and distributesits you know, minerals and things throughout
the whole thing. Now, ifsomebody was to want to use this rock
dust on an existing bed, howwould you recommend they put it on.
Yes, it's a very fine powder. Oh that's a very good thing.
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And in the backfill dust out thehole. And there is also an ocean.
When you really have a good successwith is when people come to the
nurse and say, hey, myflowers are dropping, my fruits are dropping.
That means you are calcium magnesium deficientor micro macronutrients deficiency, and that
will take care of that so itwill hold more. And also in the
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cannabis industry, they will be growingmore plan sugar basically, and that's very
desirable to hold those flowers. Okay, yeah, and but but I mean,
if you have an existing landscape,it's a very fine powder. Do
you just try to distribute it overthe soil and then water it in correct?
Both ways work. Actually the easyway I put it in If it's
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a small area, you have asmall salt shaker or plastic shaker, and
then you just sprinkle out around theplants. Don't don't put that back in
your kitchen. Have done well?Actually I drink some of that. Oh
my goodness. It's a very intriguingproduct which has also holistic aspects never mentioned,
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So you have to be careful withthat definitely. Do you hear research?
I had acid reflux and I drinkalkaline water from Carlsbad and a little
breeze of rock dust that it saidaloud, but floats is colloidal minerals in
pure form. You don't get thatthat easy, not that many heavy metals,
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you know, because I used todrink diatomaceous earth. So then I
looked at the analysis as I say, wha, well, wait a minute,
I have the patch of product.Hey, at least for the health
part you know, thee is goodfor something else. And in worm castings,
you know a lot of people arefamiliar with that and how you know
what they're supposed to do with it. But how do you recommend applying worm
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castings to an existing guarden too?Is that again? Because they kind of
come in soil form and kind ofcan clump up, do you kind of
drop it down like a you know, fertilizer, you know, do you
only recommend planting with it? Okay, understood worm casting applications. I would
just also like to point out what'sthe difference between the worm casting and wormy
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compost So most other people I don'twant to mention any major names, but
these are mainly made with a wormycomposting process. That means worms and they're
compost to disintegrate, so there willbe not pure castings. How to find
the difference between a wormy composting bagand pure castings. Both will say pure
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castings because the Act Department lets themget away with that. So they when
you have composts and the worms eatthe compost, that means what they poop.
When they poop, that's pure casting. So within the compost is x
amount of castings, and we haveninety nine percent pure casting. So therefore
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the applicationation rates will really help youto understand what is what a ten pound
bag of agroin pure organic worm castingcovers one hundred square feet on the golf
course. We can go as aton per acre. So you can't spread
any of these wormy composts because theydon't have they have too much undigested carbon
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in there. So at that point, to apply the casting is like heavy
pepper seasoning over the soil. Now, if you have a little time to
crowl it, or you move thetop soil so that the worm castings droppings
really bond with the soil surface,it will then hold an insane amount of
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water. That water again releases what'sin the worm casting, which it's a
bag of microbiology basically, and thathelps the soil to break down and hold
and retain moisture. Naturally, wegot enough frain for right now, but
it will really really be perfect duringthe summer time to apply worm casting.
So the warmer it gets, themore you irrigate, the more castings you
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want to put into your soil.Therefore you need less water. It holds
over two moisture, which is insane. Now, now let me ask you
this real quick too, because youknow, is this something So say somebody
was preparing an area to plant,whether it be vegetables or anything perennials.
Now you know some people will comeout and they'll come out and amend their
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soil and do that, and thenimmediately do you want to be planting in
this and watering it because it's almostlike you're adding like a live culture to
this area where if you leave itunwatered or unplanted, does do the benefits
of the worm castings begin to goaway because of exposure to air? And
somehow I think I know there's aback question of Okay, if the castings,
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you can let them dry up havea natural moisture content as we go,
because we want to keep the moistureup so the microbiology is alive.
So if you top dress it,the sun hits it, it will dehydrate.
Right you hit irrigation on it,they will repopulate immediately from the soil
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as well, so it will notlosing its effect. So if you do
have a yeah, a dry bagcastings in a pipe sleeve bag to drop
in a a in a spray ina spray tank, so I forgot they
were there. About two years laterI thought, oh wow, now I
know where they are in that littlecrate there, and so I tossed it
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on the lawn. Whila. Itwas perfect coming off green as well,
so they don't lose its power.It doesn't really matter what form they are,
but naturally keeping a moist and closebag that will be beneficial and out
of the sunshine. You don't wantto bake those bags. Yeah. Yeah,
And another thing I would mentioned forpeople out there that are looking for
worm castings. You know, Johnpicked up this bag of rock dust,
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which you know is actually very heavycompared to what it looks like. Yeah,
it's five pounds. I was surprised. It's a little ziploc bag and
it's five pounds. Yeah. Butalso castings. I mean, when you
pick up a bag of pure castings, it's it's dense, it's heavy.
When you pick up a bag ofcompost castings, you know, it's lighter.
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When you look at the bag,it's bigger, but it's much lighter
in weight. And you know,for some reason, yeah, those castings
are just so dense and so heavythat you could really feel like, you
know, Yeah, there's there's goodstuff in there. John, do you
want to back up a little bitwith a couple of questions before we wonder,
Well, yeah, we do havea few questions. Carla and Huntington
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Beach you're in wants to know ifshe can find your products in Orange County
anywhere? Yes, Orange County farmSupply eh. And there is also Rogers
Garden okay, very good. Yeah, and all the site ones could order
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for you landscape supplies story Yes,and may I mention easy to find locations
for stores would be Fertilizer Online dotcom. That's my website and there's a
store locator Stinder Perfect. Leonor inCanyon Country wants to know if you can
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mail order your product from anyone FertilizerOnline dot com. Oh, you sell
director that will be direct Yes,Okay, there you go, Lenor Fertilizer
Online dot Com. And then anotherquestion from Carlo says that she has a
has worm bins at home and shewants to know if they're anything she needs
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to do to the castings to makethem more beneficial or pure. Not really,
you could just it really depends whatyou feed your worms. So it's
like garbage in garbage house. That'swhat we're all about. Works for humans
too. So depending on what yourworm feed is, that's the quality of
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castings you will get within your cowormy compost in. And then I happened
to be on the farmer's market twentyyears ago and I got the customer there,
which is the second largest thirty fiderganning farmer to Rodriguez, that one
I mentioned because we do this fortwenty years with him. The rock does
some worm casting in the four foursix. And so that means you just
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you know, lost my trail.Hey, hey, hey said you lost
your trailer. You're We're gonna haveto take a break here. Sorry,
good good point. When we getback, we'll wrap up chatting with you
with Agrowind Fertilizers and you know,learn a little bit more about how to
get his product and you know howto use his product. Absolutely, do
stay with us. Those on biztalk Radio, those just joining us on
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Facebook Live. See some familiar namesthat are checking in this morning. We're
going to take a break one moresegment for those on biz talk Radio.
We'll get back and wrap things upwith Yerg. So do stay with us,
and of course, other questions comingin. We'll do what we can
to answer those as well. Thisis Garden America. Brian Main, John
Big Nasco, Tiger Pelafox, Welcometo the show. Back after these messages
on biz Talk Radio, we havereturned BizTalk Radio Facebook Live. Thank you
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for joining us as we continue withERG and wrapping things up. Tiger with
the various products and any last minutedetails we may need to hear. Yeah,
So, as Jerga mentioned, FertilizerOnline dot com is the online source
and online source for his product andinformation, and he does have a store
finder because I'm sure you know,it's wonderful if you cannot get this product
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near you to give it get itshipped. But I'm sure that shipping a
five pound bag of this rock dustis not cheap. That it might be
able to right, it might bea little easier to find it to you
at a retailer near you. You'reI'm sure you're getting ready for the busy
time of year right now. Springis happening here in southern California. Lots
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of people are starting to work intheir gardens, fertilize them, mend their
soils, you know. So youknow, again, thank you for joining
us this morning giving us all theinformation about your products and how to use
them. You know, good luckon this spring. Is are you already
shipping a lot of product right nowor is it starting to turn around right
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now for you? It's nearly allyear round a little bit, yeah,
because we also use the stuff forindoors. The rock dust no smell,
the worm casting no smell, Soit goes on in the season. It's
the same like nurseries. The springand the fall is naturally the strongest season.
Yeah. Okay, well, thankyou very much, Eric, have
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a great rest of the weekend,and we'll chat with you again soon.
Thank you anytime the year. Thankyou, Take care. And there he
goes yor last name Spury, saywhat's spory? Yorg Spory. We have
a question from Lila Tiger. Shewants to know where you can get those
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products in San Diego. Uh oh, well, Wila at Mission Hills Nursery.
Really yeah, I've got I gotthree products here in studio, and
all three of those products came fromthe nursery to be able to kind of
show them off. So yeah,right there in Mission Hills and you are
I don't want to say centrally locatedin San Diego, but you're up from
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the airport, You're you're very closeto everybody, you know what I mean,
north and south. I definitely feelwe're central. Yes, yes,
it's just the whole east of theWest and West thing. Yeah, you
know, because being along the coast, you know, we're the farthest west.
You can't there's not you know,not much farther we can go,
you know. Speaking of directions here, we go off the topic quickly,
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quickly, so those that have ALEXOwill get various updates, right, okay,
whatever that might be. So weget like, hey, it's going
to rain tomorrow or rain today.And you know what we get in Script's
Ranch, we get high surf advisories. There's a high surf advisory for Script's
Ranch. What are we ten milesfrom the beach? Fifteen miles and there's
a lot of elevation change you andI'm not sure geographically they know exactly where
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Scripts Ranch is, but just hadto throw that in. Speaking of directions
to Mission Hills Nursery. Well,you know, it's funny you say that,
because that's so very true in amodern era as we live in now,
that you would think that they wouldbe able to have more distinct information,
and just to think that how aheadof the time the Sunset Western Garden
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Book was in the terms of zones, because before the Sunset Western Garden Book,
it was just USDA zones, right, and USDA zones covered the whole
United States as just a general rule. You lived in this area, you
were this zone. But as weknow in California, you could be close
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to the beach, but you arenothing like the climate of the beach that
you could only be two or threemiles away. But you can have a
complete elevation change, you can haveyou know, a you know, increase
or decrease in hot weather or coldweather, you know, I mean,
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and it's not far. So that'swhere the Sunset came in and said,
hey, we're gonna break you guysup a little bit more zones to get
more distinct growing areas. For Southernwas it was it just southern California,
John Sunset, The Western was justsouthern Californa. No, no, no,
no, it was it was allCalifornia. Was it all California?
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And then did it go into Arizonaand that stuff as well? I don't
know if that was later or not, it did go up the coast and
into Washington, Okay, Oregon.Also, I do know John, twenty
four zones as opposed to eleven forthe whole country. For the whole country,
John, what if our avid viewersand listeners, Ryan wants to know
what your favorite gopher trap is?John, how do you get rid of
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gophers? You know what? It'sa good question because, as you know,
I just planted a new rose bedand the roses are all doing really
well, and I noticed probably fivedays ago gopher in the area and going
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right up to the rose bushes,and so I made it a priority,
and I've been using the gopher hawksand I it took me five days,
but I finally got that gopher.And that's number thirty one. So thirty
one gophers in the last few weeks, and only one rose right because you
were three, but you said twocame back. Two came back. Actually
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one came back. It's one anda half. I think it's coming back.
It's trying to. I mean,there was really nothing left. If
you wanted to build a if youwanted to build a barrier, say around
geez that that rose garden. Howfar down would you have to dig before
you would put the barrier in ground? In other words, how far down
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would a gopher have to dig toget under? What would be a safe
you know, I'm trying to think, because that was something you had to
do if you were going to plantcoffee on your property, right and and
uh, my old partner Tim endedup planting coffee and bonzel and he put
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the gopher barrier up, and Ithink that he had to go down.
I think it was a trench thatwas Was it two feet? Yeah?
I was going to say at leasttwo feet? Yeah, I was thirty
six inches. Yeah, it couldhave. It could have been two to
three feet. And then then youhad to back fill it with rock,
right, So, and then I'mtrying to think you have to I'm trying
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was it chicken wire or something theycame up with. I don't know.
It seems to me like any placeI've seen them try that ends up getting
gophers anyway. Yeah, I meanthat that product. You know that that
fence is just like any other fence. All it takes is a little chink
in it or you know, anopening, and they'll find it and then
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now they're in there. And maybeeven worse. I guess. I guess
if you you kind of gopher inyour fenced area, it would be easier
because they can't really get out asquickly, but you would catch it and
kill it. But still that's theyclimb over the fences too. Yeah,
exactly did you see that? Alittle gopher with his little hands climbing up
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the fence blind. A nice thingabout the gopher hawks too, is that
they're just dead immediately. Yeah.Yeah, but you do have to be
patient with them, because if youdon't catch the gopher the first day,
it almost pays to just move thetrap. I was going to ask you
that because you said it took youfive days to catch it. Yeah,
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but how many times did you movethat trap before you caught it? I
think I've probably got six holes upthere. Okay, yeah, I had
to take a break it up usingtwo traps. We get news coming up
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John. You love to interact notjust with gophers, but the people who
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follow this show. Now, Paulasays, I think she's referring to the
the gopher hawk. She says,they're hard to set in packed soil.
It could be, but even inpack soil, because I have some areas
that are really really hard and it'shard hard to hew. Yeah, it's
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hard to even get the probe inthere. But if you find the hole
in those soils, the gophers aren'tdeep. They're up near the top.
So a lot of that is justfinding the whole the tunnel itself. Wasn't
there a trap you talked about yearsago that was set up so whichever way
the gopher was going, Oh,that was the MacCabe gopher Macca and you've
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got to used too, okay,and time together with a little string.
I was so desperate to get theone up by the rose bed that I
actually dug down and expose that tunneland put in a Maccabee trap. But
so I had the Maccabee trap,and I had the gopher hawk and Yesterda
last evening I found out the gopherhawk had gotten it. But this nice
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thing about the gopher hawk too isthat it pops up and has a little
notification, little note that like whenyou did deliver your mail, the flag
goes out, Yeah you got one. So but this is never ending with
you. It's never going to stop, right, Well that's what John hopes
it will stop. If he doesit enough, it would. But because
you're going to decrease the population orthe word gets out both well twenty three
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gophers if they were still there,yeah, breeding, It's it's like pulling
weeds, right, Yeah, youdon't pull the weed just because you want
that weed to go away. Youpull the weed because that we could potentially
turned into five hundred more weeds.Yeah, you let it go to seed.
Yeah, if you let it goto seed. So it's kind of
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like that with the gophers. It'slike if you start pulling all these gophers
out, then, like John saying, now, your whole reproduction cycle gets
disrupted. And after hopefully you knowa few months or a year, now
in the area there's a lot lesspopulation, and then things like natural predatords
like owls or coyotes or bobcats orwhatever it may be that hunt those can
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actually keep up with the population inyour area. You have coyotes, John
out there? Oh yeah, youhear them too, don't you know.
I've got you know, really theyhaven't been noisy lately, but normally you
do hear them. And what elsedo you have? Got? Bobcats?
Yeah? I got a rattlesnake.Oh yeah, the snakes will probably really
good well snakes, I would imagine. Yeah. Yeah. In fact,
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the last time I was out there, this was a couple two or three
years ago, one crossed the roadwhen we were we were walking down toward
your well, you had your bees, we had your hive. Why did
the snake cross the road to getthe gopher? To get the gophery?
You know, I know this quotedoesn't quite work for this situation. Well
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we'll make it work. But it'skind of like the reverse where it's like
ones man's trash is another man's treasure. There was just this recent article from
Massachusetts about them banning two trees inMassachusetts because they're becoming invasive. And it's
funny because I look at these twotrees and they just seem like very common
trees to me and not that biga deal. When was the Japanese black
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pine? Right, Japanese black pine? And then the brad prepare and to
us like, we plant those treeshere, and if you can get a
Japanese black pine to grow, you'reexcited because we don't have a lot of
pine trees. And their reasoning was, well, they're super invasive to Massachusetts,
and I think their biggest argument forthem doing damage is that they shade
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areas so much that it doesn't allowfor native species to grow under them.
And also then that also hurts theanimal population. Because there's it's it's what
they call like a food desert forthese native species of animals because Bradford pair
and black pines don't provide any foodor shelter for them. And so but
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I just I just always find thatinteresting when it's a very common plant,
but then you find out somewhere elseit's very invasive. And how many people
are asking the question, you know, I want something that's going to provide
lots of shade, so you know, you know where the problem came.
It's the reason why those trees probablybecame such a problem. It was the
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people saying, I want something fastgrowing, I want something, I want
it to flower, or I wantit to be evergreen. Yeah, no,
that's good analogy. Yeah. Well, I was reading an article on
invasive species, and if a humanbeing brings something into the country, if
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we're talking about plants specifically, andplants that and then it escapes the garden,
it's invasive, right, right,But if a bird brings the same
seed over, it's not invasive.Yeah, true, meets the difference.
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Why I'm not I'm I'm not sureall invasive species are bad. Well,
but if you think about it likethat, though, no, but but
no, but here's the here's theargument on that. Okay, the Japanese
black pine, and they're native toChina in parts of Asia. So to
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think that a bird could have flownone of those trees here to Massachusetts is
very unlikely. What about the uh, the Sino American whipper will well you,
but think about how many stops itwould have made from It's that that
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seed would have been lost before iteven came close to us, right Like,
it's like it just doesn't hop ona flight from Asia and come all
the way across the ocean and thenpoop a seed out here. It would
have that's twice the word poop hasbeen used on our show this morning.
You have one more, one moreand then we're more than we're done.
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You know what's interesting, We're watchingreruns of Australian Border Patrol, you know
at the airport customs No, thisis customs agents at the airport and and
and then and what are they Thebiggest things that they're so concerned with is
bringing in just what you're talking about, different foods from other country, uh,
plants, so on and so forth, because they can breed, you
(45:57):
know, disease and bugs and thingslike that. In Australia very protective of
anything that's invasive to their country.And these people they open their suitcases up
and they have all this food.It's like, whoa. First of all,
you didn't declare any of this.This can't come into the country.
This is okay, this no,And they explain why, and it's just
amazing how many people. That's howthings get across sometimes, so you have
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to be so vigilant. Yeah,And I mean, and I see where
John saying, like, for instance, like maybe there's something that comes from
the Midwest and it comes over hereto the you know, West coast,
and you know that's that's a differentthing because like you're saying, a bird
or an animal could possibly carry thatinto us and spread it. But if
that plant did not originate in theMidwest to begin with, as a whole
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nother story. And that's where Ithink we're at with some of these plants,
because, like I said, theJapanese black pine and the brad repair
are not native to the United Statesat all. Sure, so yeah,
there are areas that they grow fine, they're controlled and they're not bad plants.
But then you know there are otherareas of the United States where they
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actually are very now this being anarab desert here, there's no bad plants,
there's only bad gardeners. That's true. What what should be maintained better?
Are there any trees here that arethat are native to this California,
this part of the country, becausewe're basically a narrow desert. Yeah,
a lot of the trees, mostof the trees were brought here to southern
California. Oh, I mean forSan Diego native what oak, tory pine,
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sycamore pretty much are the basic threeare sycamore's native. I think I
could be wrong, Yeah, yeah, yeah, you know, tory pine
is like the only pine. Yeah, you know, and then even then
they wouldn't, you know, didn'tthey trace that back to like not even
here. It just happened to growhere kind of thing, like you said,
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it came over on like a birdor something who made that long ocean
journey. Yeah. And then youknow oaks, you know, if you
go into our mountains, there's alot of different varieties of oak, but
nothing really along the coast. Rightright, Okay, break time once again
for BIS Talk Radio. We're gonnacome back. We've got several segments left
(48:10):
on this this Saturday morning or maybeSaturday afternoon, depending upon where you are
and how you're listening. So questionscomments there. I see people on Facebook
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Garden America community. I'm Brian Maine, Tiger Pellafox, John Magnesco going to
take a break back after these messages. Stay with us. Yes, indeed,
we are back from the break.It was a great break for us.
(48:31):
We trust you had a good break. John enjoys our breaks here on
Guarden America. So what do youwhat do you guys want to talk about
now as we continue? Well,Gina said that she recently saw a survey
to ban the selling of English ivyEnglish ivy. Huh, now you would
(48:52):
say, and in just in Idahoor I don't know, I don't know,
that's like she posted. But I'mnot a big fan of ivy period.
Yeah there. What did you havethat was so invasive on your wall
at your last house? You said, Oh, that was a cat's claw
cat's claw? Yeah, right,given the choice, right, cat's claw,
(49:15):
they're both bad, but cat's clawsit's a nightmare. You can't get
rid of it. And the worstthing is that it goes to seed and
the seats come up everywhere and they'vegot this you know, they've got a
like a tuber tuberous fruit. Yeahthat's like you can't get out. Yeah,
(49:37):
like you dig it, it breaksin half and then it reproduces more.
But English ivy, you know,also it attaches to so much like
it's a parasite, right, Okay, it's one thing that it's like grows
rapidly through an area, but ifit starts climbing up a tree or climbing
(49:57):
into your you know, plant oranything else like that, it actually begins
to kill them. And I canonly imagine in areas where it actually grows
well, because the thing in SouthernCalifornia is that the heat kills it,
right like, meaning you know,if you don't water it English ivy in
southern California, it'll just die off, you know. It doesn't you know,
(50:23):
take to our dry temperatures very well. But if you had a hot,
humid area where you lived, I'msure that stuff grows like seaweed where
you could probably watch it. Youcould probably watch it grow. You know
what you're holding your tongue no,I'm just thinking. There's a variety of
(50:44):
English ivy called Baltic ivy, andI wonder if that's what you're thinking.
You know what you should have saidto him, Cat's clog at your tongue
because English ivy grows. You know, there's you probab never belonged to the
ivy society. No I did not. But there's many varieties of English ivy,
(51:06):
and and most of them grow rampanthere. I mean, they grow
wild. I'm up up houses andyeah, you know, but I mean
what I'm getting at is like,for instance, if you were to go
buy a one gallon English ivy andplant it, it'll you'd have to take
(51:27):
care of it to get it togrow, you know what I mean.
If you were just put it outthere, it probably would not grow very
well all the time, you think, so if you planted it. Yeah,
if I put it in a onegallon can, it which is take
over your house, you think thatThat's what I'm saying. That's what I'm
(51:47):
saying, care of it. It'sgoing to die quickly. Yeah, Like
you have to actively plant it,like it can't just be something that accidentally
falls in your backyard and it takesover, it would probably die out.
But you're right. If it wasirrigated and you play anted it, it'll
it'll swallow a house, like yousaid. But the minute you stop providing
irrigation to it or it can't,it won't accidentally grow where I would say
(52:09):
somewhere like that. It's good rainand good heat. If you if it
falls out of the back of atruck, it'll take over, you know
what I mean? Like because thatthose things are so aggressive and then they
reroot everywhere. So the original plant, you it doesn't even matter what the
original plant was because it's rerooted thirtytimes already and it's crawling towards a river
(52:35):
where it's just going to keep suckingwater up. There are dwarf varieties of
English ivy. There are miniature varieties. Yeah, Paula wants to know what
pok weight is considered. Ah,yeah, A few people, a few
different ones people call it depending onwhere you're from, right, Yeah,
But pok weight is originally from backEast and it's now throughout all the Southern
(53:00):
States, and so it is aninvasive species. Is that like poke salad?
I don't know if it's the same. Well, but no, but
what is what is the variety you'retalking about that's back east? Like what
do you what do you do?You know the botanical name of what they're
talking about, because I because nettlepeople call nettle poke weed here too.
(53:21):
Oh no, no, you knowwhat I mean, right, Like that's
what I'm saying, like like likeit's not And and because people call nettle
poke weed because when you touch it, it pokes you. And I think
that was a term that people heardthe term poke weed and they put it
on the name of the plant nettlebecause they thought that that's what it was.
But yeah, but poke weed isnot poke weed. If you're in
(53:44):
other areas of the country, it'sdifferent. Yeah, poke weed is vital
lack Americana. Uh huh. Andand why do they call it poke weed
back there? Does it poke likenettle or no? No, it just
was the name they used to callit that. Do they have any spines
or any what is the origin ofthe name. No? See, see
(54:07):
it's weird, right, but peoplecall poke weed nettle or people called nettle
pokeweed here. Yeah, I wasgoing to try to find a picture for
you and show you the show youwhat it looks like. And then nettle
is funny too here because they're stingingnettle, and then there's other nettles,
(54:27):
and if you have a good eye, oh yeah, I feel like I've
seen this here though it's pretty itgets pretty big. I've seen this here.
Yeah you know, yeah, canyou can you get used? Put
it up to your camera real quickly. We can probably get a good shot.
It usually, uh translates pretty goodvideo wise. Yeah, a lot
of people would see the berry onit, and it's very common. Oh
(54:51):
yeah, that's a good shot,very German easily. But you know when
when when you're a trained gardener andyou've dealt with nettle stinging nettle, you
can see the difference between the nettlethat's going to sting you and the nettle
that doesn't. And but when youdon't know the difference, it's you're looking
(55:12):
at the plants. And I couldjust imagine if like one day you're going
through your yard and you're pulling allkinds of netle out of your yard bare
hands, no big deal, andthen you grab some sting netle. Yeah,
it's not going to be a goodday. No, no, not
a lot of fun. But youmentioned Gina made a comment. For those
(55:35):
of you that are following along withFacebook Live and in the chat, I
love Gina's weather report. Oh yeah, it was like sunny, rainy,
cold, hot, So okay,Veronica says, so that's what people ate
in poke salad. Of course,there was a famous song poke salad.
(55:58):
Annie. Yeah. Is it anythingto do with a turnip green John turnips
or well, I've looked it uphere and it says poke most likely comes
from the Algonquin word po can,meaning bloody. Ah, and that would
(56:19):
mean that would be they bloody.Yeah. So they said the juice from
the berries can be used as incone of those dye kind of berries.
Yeah. Also is a fabric dayYeah, okay, break time. We
have two more segments coming up herefor both Bistalk Radio Facebook Live. We've
(56:42):
generated a lot of conversation on FacebookLive with our topic, at least in
this segment, going back and forthwith the various plants that we've been speaking
of, So keep it up thereFacebook Live questions comments. We're going to
take a break for Bistalk Radio backafter these messages. We have returned from
that break. Great break, goodbreak, Yeah, good break. It's
almost like you weren't even ready.Even though you controlled the coming back from
(57:05):
the break, you weren't ready forit. Yeah, break break for biz
talk, break for our friends onFacebook live. Uh, look at Gena
and Rick going back and forth.Which is good about the comments on Facebook
because not just us, they interactwith each other. You know Rick,
Rick's on there. You know,Rick always has the soil questions. And
we had ur gone this morning talkingabout the agroin products, and I think
(57:28):
Rick would appreciate the rock test.Rick, if if you missed it,
go ahead, John, because hehe always wonders about soil improvements and how
to amend things. And you know, I know that he is well aware
of composts and the different maneuvers andorganic fertilizers. But I don't know if
Rick is aware of the rock testsor if he's ever used it. But
(57:49):
the way I also associated it's likehumous you know, like humic acid for
the soil. It's or like Johnand Bob's soil optimizer. That's what I
kind of put rock dust in with. It's it's you're feeding all the great
stuff in the soil that you wantto go and do better things with.
And you know, it's not reallylike a fertilizer that you're going to feed
(58:12):
the plant. I'm not sure whenRick joined us, but Rick, if
you did miss any of that conversation, as with anybody else, this afternoon
on a YouTube channel and Gardener Americaradio show, this show will be uploaded
and you can rewatch the show.In fact, you can fast forward,
rewind to any portion and like youmentioned Tiger, Rick, you may get
some good information as it pertains tosoil. Yeah, and you know,
and Rick also you can order itonline fertilizer online dot com. As I
(58:35):
think what he's I think that's whathe said. Yeah, yeah, to
be able to because I don't knowif they would have it where Rick's at.
What else did you find for us, John Well going, I'll back
a little bit more into poke andpoke salad. It said, poke salad's
always eaten cooked, oh, becauseotherwise all plants, of all parts of
the plants are poisonous, especially theberries. Somebody was asking if the berries
(59:00):
can beat, and they look likethey could, right, because they're that
dark purple and it's usually white berriesthat you associate with. So cooking it
is like boiling something to get ridof the poisons. Personally, I wouldn't
take a chance. I wouldn't.That's such a terrible term for a food.
If you need to cook it beforeyou eat it, Before you eat
(59:22):
it, you shouldn't call it asalad because I think most people think of
salad as just makes it in abowl and then you eat it. Well,
first of all, I wouldn't trustmyself to cook it properly to get
rid of the poisons. Like enough, what is that Japanese fish? John?
The blowfish that that's prepared? It'snot blowfish, isn't yeh oh?
That is it is. It's adelicacy that only so many chefs around the
(59:44):
world know how to prepare it.If you cut it wrong and you can
die, I'm not doing that.You know, the chef could have had
a bad day. Remember the nameof the restaurant in San Francisco that Sharon
wrote an article about. It wascalled Blowfish Sushi to Die For. I
(01:00:04):
do remember the title of that.Yes, yeah, I don't know,
but yeah, you should call ita salax. Okay, most people think
salad it's like a raw dish.Here's something else. As we go back
and trace the origins of people,tasting things for the first time. So
at some point with these things thatare poisonous, somebody tasted it and died.
Oh that's too bad. You're aboutbill that new plant. We came
(01:00:27):
across the ate and he died.Really, what if we cooked it?
Oh, let's try that well,I mean, I mean seriously funny,
and then we're going to try itagain after we cook it. I'm listening
to this book about the history ofdifferent plants, and the chapter I'm on
right now has to do with likethe psychedelic mushrooms, right okay, and
(01:00:47):
how they came about, And youknow, it's this whole thing with humans
in this and animals and all thisstuff, and it was just describing on
how a lot of them came frommanures of animals. So it's funny that,
you know, someone came along andsaw this thing growing out of a
(01:01:08):
manure and was like, oh,yeah, this makes a lot of sense
to eat. I thought this wasa good idea, you know, But
now I wonder if in some ofthese circumstances like you brought up, it
was desperation. People were starving,they needed to eat and had to take
a chance. Yeah, it itpainted a picture more of these like weird
(01:01:29):
doctor healer people would go out andlike we're like the first plant hunters,
you know, meaning like meaning likeif you had that mindset that you were
going to be this doctor, thishealer, you would go and wander nature
and you would eat things and thensee how you react to be able to
then maybe give that to people tohelp. And wow. But I'm like,
(01:01:52):
how many of those healers died alongthe way? Okay? Yeah,
okay, So Rick just responded,Okay did he did he hear? He
said he has used rock dust.He was late today, he had ice
surgery this week. Woke up late. Yes, Tiger, I am into
soil science, build the soil.Okay, oh, thanks for joining us,
(01:02:13):
even though you're late. You lookon the eye. Surgery just looks.
Everyone's well. John just looks atme as I talk and just smirt.
John came in and John brought aninteresting mood into the studio. Today.
Is on his mind? Yeah,I do have so much on that.
That's okay. At least he's here. He made that long drive.
(01:02:34):
Yeah, I always think about that. I listened to the podcast I did
all the way in. Yeah,critiquing yourself should have said something different,
should have done Yeah, exactly,And like, why why did I have
to say you know so many times? You know, it's interesting that you
say that because in radio when you'reon the air, I don't know if
(01:02:55):
they do it so much these days, but we would have maybe once or
twice a week it's down with aprogram director and we'd listen to the show
and he would point out things likethat, were you aware that you always
said? You know? Are youaware that you always did this? And
that, let's try to work onthat. Use another word for that,
don't do that. And it's veryinteresting because just like you said, then
(01:03:15):
you start picking it apart, likeI'll go home and watch about fifteen minutes
of this show on YouTube. Ido the same thing. Oh why do
I do that? Oh? Johndoes this? Tiger does it? Okay?
You know, it's just a wayto keep up because first of all,
you're your own worst critic, butsometimes you do things that somebody else
points out to you, and yougo, I do do that, don't
I. It's a habit there wasin this show earlier. Did you hear
(01:03:39):
John call our guest urg urine Urine? No, we can go back and
this. Yeah. I didn't wantto say anything at the time, but
it was like, hey, yourbrother's got a question. He does.
My brother moved to northern Michigan.And first of all, you're like,
you can tell he's a gardener.Why would you move to northern Michigan closer
(01:04:03):
closer to Canada where there is nowarm or you know, maybe you just
you know, I guess you couldbe a gardener up there because you would
garden differently. You get time righthere, you get what you get time
to rest. You can rest allwinter, so all seven months of it.
(01:04:24):
Yeah, where far back does hetrim his high ranges? Yeah,
he wants to know. And it'sdifferent in Michigan than it is in California.
And it's different with new hydranges.Right. First of all, if
they're the newer high ranges, endlesssummer and that whole endless series right just
(01:04:46):
never ends. But that endless seriesreblooms, so you can cut those back
to any height you want in thespring. But if they're regular, the
older hydrange of macrophile is they onlybloom on old wood. So if you
cut back too far, you're cuttingback all the flowers and you won't get
any blooms. So it depends onwhat variety they are. Dave and I
(01:05:13):
will say though that you know theyget some really beautiful blooms, big hydrangea
flowers. Well they also because ofthe acid soils. Yeah, blue blue.
Yeah, we're in California. We'restruggling to get blue, struggling to
get any reasonable color. You know, they're all kind of faded. They
look they look faded. They're sovibrant back there where they have the rich
(01:05:36):
exactly right, yes, and Iknow Shannon, that's one of her favorites
hydrangers. Right, yeah, howare how are your doing? I mean,
I'm sure they're still just barely comingout of dormancy right now. But
you know, the the macro filesare all the macrophiles are all butted and
(01:06:00):
leafing out. But the other typeincredible. I can't tell if it's dead
or if it's it's just late.Yeah, it's still coming because you know,
those are the ones that really don'tdo that well. Here. They
like colder temperatures, and it didbloom last year, and it bloomed repeatedly,
(01:06:23):
so I don't know, we'll findout. Okay, still early then,
yeah, I do after the break. Go ahead, we have a
break in a minute. Well,I was just going to mention that I'd
try a lot of plants outdoors becauseShannon's gotten into growing plants on the windowsill.
So when they're mostly dead, Itake them outside and plant them.
(01:06:46):
And I have a piggyback plant thatis doing really well outdoors, and I
always wanted to plant when outdoors justto see what it would do, because
I know they're native up into Alaska. What's a piggyback plant? You don't
know what the piggy bag. We'regonna take a break that really, that's
the topic after we return from thebreak on the other side, the piggyback
(01:07:06):
plant. Here on Guard in America. One more segment. Okay, those
on BIS Talk Radio, Facebook Live, stay with us. Hanging there,
We're almost there. I'm Brian Main, John Beg, Nascar, Tager Pella
Fox again. One more segment hereon Guard in America. All right,
we are back. We're talking piggyback, the piggyback plant. What have you
found? Tiger Tolma mens zz Menzciz Ci. Yeah, it's a really
(01:07:33):
common house plant, really does it? Is it? From the year by
looking at it, tiger, No, it's not. It looks like a
hookara or hoo chera or however youchoose to say it. But I see
why it's called the piggyback plant becauseas its large leaf right and then on
top of it as this little babyleaf that just sits right on top of
the large lea. So I cansee why it's called the piggyback. But
(01:07:56):
I don't. I don't know ifI've seen that, like really it's called
and huh it used to be oneof the most common house plants really and
maybe more so bad he doesn't requirea lot of light. And oh,
it's got a really neat flower.Oh, I've never seen a bloom.
That's the main reason I wanted toplant it out. Really, I mean,
(01:08:18):
it looks like it's very small.You know what it looks like to
me. Mimulus flower, yeah,monkey flower, monkey flower, Yeah,
very neat. I mean it lookslike it's kind of small, and it
like a hookra or like a whatdo they call them coral bell plant?
Like it looks like it comes upon a little spire and hangs down like
(01:08:38):
that. Yeah, that's cool.I have to look for that. Maybe
maybe we do have them, andit is more common than I think,
but I'm not familiar with. Well, you know, the leaf isn't spectacular,
right, it's just a common leaf. Yeah, so maybe it's not
as popular as it used to be. Yeah. Well, I think that's
(01:09:00):
kind of fun though, the littleleaflet that comes out, especially you said
when it blooms too. Yeah.Well, we don't know the size of
the bloom or anything. Yeah,but we'll see. Is do you know,
is that little leaf that comes outa new leaf? Yes, so
it's like that's how it reproduces leaves, right, Oh okay, it kind
of it's funny because it kind oflooks like Brian like like that's meant to
(01:09:24):
just always be there. Oh yeah, right. Like there's a plant called
a a butcher's broom okay, andit has a leaf and then the the
leaf gets a little red berry onthe leaf and it's just kind of like
interesting like that like that's you knownormally like the berries will come off of
another part or something like that.But the butcher's broom has a leaf,
(01:09:45):
then it gets a flower on theleaf and then that turns into a red
berry. Uh. That's only onfemale plants. Oh is it? Yeah,
I didn't they're dioecious. Oh okay, truscus. It's the type of
rus us, right, yep.Dave said that the tag on his hydrangea
is Ariba. That must be oneof the Yeah, and it is.
(01:10:11):
It is. It's a new repeatblooming hydrangea. Yeah. I don't know
if that's going to be an oldvariety hydrangea with the name Adiba. Yeah.
So you can go ahead and uhuh cut those anyway you want,
Dave get back. I would justleave it until after it was done blooming
(01:10:33):
and then maybe cut the old bloomsoff. But you know, if they're
too big now, or if there'sdead parts, just go ahead and cut
them back. I was gonna say. I would think there it would almost
be self pruning, right, meaningmeaning he gets so much weather that the
plant's gonna kind of, you know, have dead parts. Yeah. I
(01:10:53):
don't know if the new ones areheartier than the others, but we would
get you know, down in theDetroit area, we would at frost damage,
freeze damage on yeah stranges. Soit's like knowing, you know,
pruning roses back there. All youdo is cut off the dead. Yeah,
when you the next season, youjust go in there and you cut
out all the dead parts and it'sactually the perfect size. There was no
(01:11:15):
pruning necessary. Dave, by theway, apologized for getting a little off
topic. Well, it must nothave heard the first part of the show.
Apology accepted, because there really isno topic. You know, we're
happy to talk about any true.Yeah, yeah, Dave, you haven't
(01:11:35):
been listening to long enough then theall the different topics we've been covering.
He also said that we're the best, which is true, and for Brian,
I think he's saying, go Wings. You know, it's funny you
mentioned that day because in my videogame right now, my NHL Hockey video
game, I am the Detroit RedWings. Dave, that's my team.
(01:11:57):
Wow. Wow, So there yougo playing career mode. Oh yeah,
closest I can get to reliving myglory days. Do you ever go skating
anymore? No? No, youknow it's funny because I played hockey.
To me, just skating around ina circle's boarding? Fine, No,
I want a hockey stick in apuck. Yeah, I mean maybe the
(01:12:18):
first ten minutes and then it's like, okay, now what now what do
we do? Yeah? I mean, have you ice skated. I've ice
skated, and it's fun to mebecause every time I well, because every
time I do it it's new.Yeah, like meaning like I don't go
enough to do anything of just stayingupright is good enough for me. Got
(01:12:39):
you, I got your weak anklesor your ankles wobbly surf shouldn't Yeah,
don't you need strong angles angles anklesfor surfing? I don't know. I
guess I don't know. I meanyou do for skiing? You know,
you know it's interesting because just likesurfing, like snow skiing, all that
requires a center of gravity. Solike you take your nose to your knees
(01:13:01):
to your feet and draw draw aline, and that's that's your center of
gravity, and that's that's you workfrom that. Yeah, And I would
imagine the same thing. I didn'tsurf as much as you did, but
I surfed a little bit like anice skate I could ski because it's all
kind of the same thing, justapplied maybe a bit differently. Yeah,
But it's just funny, like becauseice skating isn't something like you would be
(01:13:24):
really fun to do, is ifyou lived in an area where like a
river froze or creeks, and youcan go fifty miles. Like you're saying,
it's not really fun to just goin a rink and just go around,
and certain would do that. Butif you had a trail, sure
that you can fall so a wayto get around. Yeah, that would
be really like cross country skiing,only much faster. Yeah, I would.
(01:13:45):
That would be fun to do atrail. Hey, we're going to
skate down to this town. It'sabout twenty miles south. Yeah, get
there in maybe forty five minutes exactly, however long it takes. Yeah,
that would be neat. Do theydo that in Michigan? Ice creet ice
skate down a creek or to getsomeplace from point A to point B.
You know what you always did inMichigan was after the first snow, you
(01:14:09):
built banks, then got the hoseout and filled it with water and low
free little ponds. Yes, everybodywould do that long time ago. We
were in Chicago back in the latesixties, and they would during the winter
time, they would hose down tenniscourts and they would freeze and you could
ice skate on the tennis court.Okay, yeah, hey on well,
(01:14:31):
Hory John because we have to bailout. Oh okay, just wondered if
there was any news about our upcominglive show. No, nothing, you're
working on it. Yeah, Ineed to follow with John Clement's about that.
Ryan, We are working on that, Carla. Yes, we'll be
here next week, actually next twoweeks, right, yeah, because we
are working the day before we leavenext week we have Christa. John is
(01:14:53):
not here the week after we hadhis show right before we're going to leave
for coach. Okay, Hey,thank you so much again, as we
always say, running late and soundinggreat. Thank you for tuning in those
on BizTalk Radio, Facebook Live.Enjoy the rest of your weekend, have
a safe week, and we'll doit again next week. I'm Brian Maine,
John Big Nascar, Tiger Pella Fox. This is Garden America. Thank
you so much for listening and watching. Again, be safe. We'll do
(01:15:14):
it again next weekend. Take care,
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