Secrets To Gardening with Lilies with Peggy Anne Montgomery - Garden America Radio Show [5.11.24] - Garden America - Gardening Podcast & Talk Radio Show

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It is that time once again.Welcome to Garden America. Yes, we
are back in studio, broadcasting fromSan Diego, California. The iHeartMedia and
entertainment studios. Like I said,Southern California, San Diego. John Begnascua,
as you just heard, is herewith his phone feeding back Tiger is
getting a kick out of this wholething. Funny, I turned it off.

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You know what your special needs.We love you. You're Russia.
You just got finished saying turn itback on. It's kind of funny.
Oh and I think Siri was listening. I might have said that. But
we are back. Perhaps you're listeningto us as a pre recorded show.
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if you ask her. Happy birthdayto Carla. Yeah, we're excited to
spend your birthday with you. Happybirthday, Carla. Happy birthday, Carla.
And what do we have in storetoday? We have a guest,
a first time we've had a guestsince we've been back from Costa Rica.
Her name is Peggy, And youknow it's funny. So we're talking lilies.

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But it's funny because lilies are Whenwhen I was past this note for
this guest, for this interview,it said, lily lilies are the plant
of the year, the bulb ofthe year, and but lilies are also
it's just a term for a plant, right, Like there's day lilies,
there's the bulb lilies, there's youknow, lily pad. There's all kinds

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of lilies, and so I thinklily is lilyum, the genus lilyum technically
scientific? Did I just ruin gonna? John? Are all kinds of lilies?
Okay? There's even people named lily, which brings us to my next
point. When's the last time weeven talked about a lily here on guard

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in America? John brought in daylilies a little while ago, but not
we trust you week. Yeah,Were you gonna make a point though,
Yeah, No, just making apoint that there's a lot of lilies,
right, And I wanted to reachout to you out there, and I
hope you had a good week andyour weekends off to a good start.

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A lot of people do kick offtheir weekend with us. So depending upon
how the show goes good, batare indifferent, so goes their whole weekend.
Sometimes it bleeds into next week.Have we ever had people stay in
bed the next day? Oh gosh, all the time. You know.
That's called the garden America hangover.I just can't get out of bed.
That show yesterday was just terrible.So we haven't said we've got a great

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show lined up today yet. WellI'm not sure we We always like to
under promising over to live. Absolutely, it's a lot easier that way.
Yeah, let's see May the nursery, what happens now? Garden walk today,
The Mission Hills garden walk is todayright where you get to go into
people's backyard, climb the fence withoutthem, without inviting you, Yeah,

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and just kind of trample around theiryard exactly. But you know, garden
walks are a great opportunity to kindof get inspirations, see what other people
are doing, have a have realisticexpectations too, because looking through the Internet
or magazines or books, you know, number one is that photo was taking
probably at a very ideal time ofday and angle, and they've they've gotten

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the garden ready to go and lookinggood for it sunshine, you know,
and also you never know. Sometimesthese photos are taking gardens in Michigan and
you know, other parts of thecountry, and then you get this inspiration
to do and you're like, oh, I can't grow any of those plants
here, right, So it's niceto have some local inspiration. I wonder

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why you picked Michigan, because itlooks beautiful for three weeks out of the
year in Michigan and other parts ofthe country, like saying North Dakota and
other parts of the country. Yeah, but there's a lot of really pretty
parts, but you just don't knowwhat it looks like the other nine months
out of the year. Yeah.Carolyn wished us a gray good morning,
and I was just thinking, wehad what one of the coolest winters and

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springs we've had in a long time. Yeah, I think so. I
mean, right, all kinds ofrain, and now we're into May gray.
Then we got June gloom coming,and and then there's July hallai well,
but then then who was it here? Lisa said that they're looking at
one hundred degrees next week in reading. Wow, so you're going out of

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all this cool, overcast weather intoone hundred degrees. So how should one
prepare their their plants for something likethat knowing what's on the horizon. I
don't think you can. You can'twrite, you can't. I mean,
if you've got a small yard,if you've got plants and pots, you
can move them in the shade.I was going to say, I'm not
a direct sun. You could throwshade cloth over something because people think watering.

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But the issue is is like theplant is not prepared, no meaning
meaning you're taking this, you know, plant that's been in this environment where
it doesn't mind getting full exposure becausethe sun hasn't been that strong, and
then all of a sudden you're throwingit on the beach down there in Costa
and yeah, it's just going toburn no matter what you do. So

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I've noticed what some of the roses, mainly the flowers. You know,
if they've opened under cool conditions,even this week where you get to seventy
five, it can burn the petalsright right, and they could be strong,
healthy plants. Yeah, the plantsjust doesn't matter, right, Yeah,

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it's just the flower. By theway, speaking of plants, I
brought in I forget the name ofthat company. It was something perennials,
must have, must have perennials,Yes, and I brought in for you
and Brian to Oh, some ofthese have to go to Brian. Oh
really, well, yeah, someof them have to go to Tiger.

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He had just mentioned that he wanteda couple, but they were liners for
new plants. And we don't talkabout hellibores that much, but helibores.
A lot of breeding has been doneover the last thirty years for hellibores,
and these new ones the leaves arekind of well, you can look in

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the catalog there and see what theylook like eventually, but there's a lot
of variegation to the leaves and sowhen the hellibar's out of bloom, the
plant's going to be there. It'sstill going to look cool, right.
And it's a great way to becausea lot of the hell bores also are
kind of more shade right in southernCalifornia, right, And it's a great

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way to have that impact in colorand texture and all of that in the
shade, because it's so hard toget something to bloom, you know,
it's like, oh, yeah,I can feel ivy in here, you
know this, I don't grow anywhereyet anytime in their winter bloomers. Yeah,
it comes at a time of yearwhen other things aren't blown we speaking
of ivy. This kind of goesoff track a little bit, but you

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know, Wrigley Field has they're famousfor the ivy and the outfield covering the
brocks, and usually it takes amonth or two before it actually grows in
the first month of the season isstill kind of bear. But I saw
I saw some highlights from Wrigley Fieldand it was all grown in already.
They seemed to be a bit early. Yeah. Well I saw the game
when the Potters were playing, right, they weren't they out there? Yeah?

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I think maybe that's what I was. And it was beautiful weather,
Yeah, like it looked like theywere having some really nice web. It's
Mother's Day. They're in the heightof spring. Yeah yeah, so so
yeah, maybe maybe, like you'resaying, you're just used to seeing like
opening days, it's April where it'snot completely grown in. But there's also
sometimes where you know, they doget really cold all the way into me.

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Yeah, exactly exactly. Gina saysthat she officially has spring fever.
Oh yeah, they're in Meridian Idaho. Are they teasing? Is she?
Now? She said, I boughtso many beautiful new things for Mother's Day.
So did we say Happy Mother's Dayto all the mothers out there?
You were going to save that forthe next segment. We can do it

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now, so you're going to startlistening them. Happy Mother's Day to all
of our mothers out there who arelistening and not listening, who we love
very much. Yeah, exactly,Happy Mother's Day for sure. John's quote
of the week. That's what I'mlooking for. You know. Carlos says
she loves Hella Bores, which wewere just talking about. She said they're
very popular now really in Huntington Beach. Well, I don't know. I

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don't stay up on what's popular andwhat's not. I usually count on Tiger
for that because he has more accessto the new Riqui finger on the pulse
of what's happening horticulturally. He does, he does. I can tell you
what was happening thirty years ago.But last night, no no idea.

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Oh and you were you were askingabout the quote, Brian, right.
Yes, the quote is from ManahamBagan. Yeah. I think it's actually
pronounced monahem. Well, probably fromfrom the the Israeli standpoint of view maybe,
but yeah, correctly we say monocBut monocam reminds me of of that

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bit that the they did on SesameStreet. Wow, this was this a
big bird segment. It was likea monomena. Do you remember that?
No? Oh, yeah, Iknow what you're talking about now. Anyway,
that kind of reminds me of whenyou say anyway, he said,

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peace is the beauty of life.It's sunshine. It's the smile of a
child, the love of a mother, the joy of a father, the
togetherness of a family. It's theadvancement of man, the victory of a
just cause, the triumph of truth. A lot to digest there put in

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there. You know who said allwe are saying is give piece a chance.
That was Preddy Mercury. No,no, it was no, but
but John it was John John Lennon, Yeah, that song, but it
was It wasn't the Beatles. Itwasn't that his That was after that was
him in the Plastic Ono Band.That's what it was, right. Yeah.
He went from a kind of aroughneck, kind of a ruffian when

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he was young to a peaceful guytry to be a peaceful guy in his
later years. All right, itis that time again. We're going to
get a hold of our guest.Peggy's with us today, Tiger. Yeah.
Peggy's going to be joining us,and we're going to be talking about
the bulb of the year, whichis the Lily. The bulb of the
year, which is not General Electricfrom what I understand, nor is it
an led make bulbs. These messagescoming your way next. If you're tuned

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in on biz talk radio, weappreciate you. This is Garden America.
Stay with us. We are backfrom the break. Pleasant good morning to
you, or good afternoon, goodevening whenever you're listening to us here on
Guard in America. Brian Mayne,John bag Nasco, Tiger Pelafox, gonna
throw to Tiger right now, whichwe're seeing the business and bringing our guest
Peggy and Day. Here we go, Tiger Yeah. So this morning we
have Peggy and Montgomery joining us totalk about the Bulb of the Year.

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Peggy Ann works for with the Garden. Uh uh sorry, Garden Media Group.
I'm sorry reading Garden comm and I'mlike, wait a minute, Garden
Media Group. Now, Peggy thethe first line of your description. I
love it because this is such athis is such a gardening thing, horticulturalist
thing, industry thing, but itdescribes you as a people oriented horticultural professional

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because it's kind of like one ofthose things in the industry and kind of
like in science, there's there's peoplethat focus on the plants, but sometimes
those people are not people oriented planttrue, how true that is, But
Peggy is people oriented. Thank youfor joining us this morning. How are
you doing. I am doing great. Thank you so much for having me

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on. And you know what,I think one of the most wonderful thing
about gardening is gardening people. Gardenpeople are good people. Yeah, yeah,
yeah, we exactly. We Wedefinitely need to be there, definitely
have to be people in order foryou know, people to garden. So
you know, it's it's kind ofa you know, you gotta work hand

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in hand. Now. Now,this year, the bulb of the year,
Peggy, the lily. You know, what do you think of the
lily when when somebody says lily toyou, what is the plant that comes
to mind? You know, probablywhat comes to mind for me are oriental
lily. Because I'm one of thepeople that love the fragrance and just a

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few stems of those in a basein the house. Uh. Just it's
the perfumer is just magic and ofcourse I'd love to smell it in my
gardens. Fool. And we werehaving this debate here in the studio about
the lily and you you mentioned theasiatic lily, the fragrance the flower you

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know or in a lily, sorry, the fragrance of flower, the color.
You know, it's one bulb youget, you know, the one
plant coming off of it. I'mright there with you that it is like
definitely a statement to be made.John on the other hand, though,

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looks at it as like, oh, it's kind of like just one thing.
But then I tell John, I'mlike, you know, but that's
your rose. You get like,you know, one or two flowers off
of a rose bush, and yeah, but then you get more and more
and more all summer. The lilycomes up, blooms and that's up.
Yeah, but in here, boys, because maybe it's blooms and it's done,
but it's like fireworks. It's beautiful. And I think we get too

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appreciated even more because it doesn't lastfor months. And so when they bloom.
You're out here, you're looking atand the pollinators are going crazy and
their magic, and you can youcan plant a variety so that you have
them blooming in succession for quite along time. All right, That's what
I wanted to know, because I'malways willing to be convinced, and that's

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what I'm wondering. Are there varietiesthat you can plant in succession or plan
all at once but bloom in succession. Yeah? Absolutely, So I'm in
Delaware in zone seven and right now, my excuse me, my martigon lilies
are up and they're in bud andthen next are going to be my asiatics,
and asiatics are awesome. They bloomin late spring or early summer,

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and these are the ones that forpeople that find the scent too strong,
asiatics have very little or no sense. And then after that we're going to
get my orientals going, and thenthe tigreenam the tiger lilies are going to
bloom. So honestly, I haveand I also grow species lilies, so
we really have of lily blooming almostall summer. And and then you know,

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are these bulbs that you know you'rein Delaware? Is this something you
have to plant every year? Dothey come back for you? You know?
How how is it that you maymanage those? Oh that's a great
question. So lily pulps have reallya wide range of zones. They're usually
listed as three or four to nine. Excuse me, Paulin, it's really

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bad here. So that's you know, it has quite a big range three
or four toes though nine. Andlilies are perennial, so they do come
back year after year and get biggerand bigger. And you know, now
my tiger lilies are so massive.I get to take off bulbs and share
them with all my friends and familiesevery year. Oh there you go.

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That's a good way to do it. And I do love the idea that
it's kind of like not there allthe time, but then when it pops
up, and like you're saying it'sfireworks, it really is. Because they
pop up, you know that yougot the different heights. Some of them
get really tall, and so youknow, it's kind of fun to kind
of see that happen in your gardenbecause even if it is for a short

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window, John, it's a reallyfun time to kind of have them come
up. And so you know theyI like them. They are fun plans
and what would you say, Peggy. And the biggest pest issue is with
the least because I kind of feellike they don't have a lot of pests.
You know, in general, theydon't have a lot of pests.
But there is one lily beetle outhere and it's bright red, and in

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some places in the country it isthere, and that is a problem.
I'm lucky it's not in my area, but the northeastern United States, excuse
me, New England has them,Central and western Canada, and now I've
heard that they're recently down in Washingtonand Oregon too. So for most of
the country it's not a problem,but for folks living in New England it

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really can be. And that's abeatle. You're saying, Yeah, it's
a bright red beetle. You couldn'tmiss it. Okay, all right,
you know, Tiger, I havea confession to make. Yes, I
had at my old house one ofmy favorite plants was lily called silk road.
It was an orient pet and maybePeggyan can tell us about those.

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But you were talking about how theycan get tall. This one was over
eight feet tall. What, yeah, I'm not kidding. Did you did
did it? Did you have tosupport it? Or did it stand up
on its own? You know,it was growing in among some other plants,
so it held up on its own. But it was on a hillside.
So when you're standing at the bottomof the hill, you were looking

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up and and I to me,it seemed like it stayed in bloom for
a long time. The flower whatmaybe as big as your hand. Yeah,
they were pretty big, almost notquite as big as stargazers, but
almost like that. And and Peggyana, I think that that's a cross between
an ore a lily and a trumpetlily. Is that You're exactly right.

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They're called ot hybrids sometimes because ofthe oriental and the trumpet, and they're
also sometimes called tree lilies because theyget so huge, and they are also
called orient pets, just to makeit confusing for everybody. But they are
amazing. And you know what,I do stake my my ot hybrids because
they get so tall, and Ijust don't want to see them get damaged

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before the bloom. But I'm growingshaher is that and it's crazy. It's
also almost eight p tall and there'sover twenty blooms on that and it does
flower for a very long time.And these are all coming from bulbs,
you know, right, Like youknow, that's what we're talking about.
This is the bulb of the year, you know, the wide range that

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it kind of encompasses. Because,like you like we kind of talked about
in the beginning of the program,people think of Lili's and they kind of
think of one one plant and that'sall that it is. But as we
mentioned, there's ones that bloom early, there's ones that bloom late. There's
ones that get eight feet tall,there's I mean, you know, there's
also the compact varieties now that onlyget maybe a two foot tall, but
have massive blooms on it as well, and not a lot of pass We're

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gonna have to take a break herein about thirty seconds, Peggy, But
when we get back, I wantto talk a little bit about the soil
requirements, because when we talk aboutbulbs sometimes there's specific things that they need
to be planted and to make themperform. So when we get back from
the break, we're gonna continue chattingwith Peggy in regarding the Bulb of the
Year. We are going to takea break for our friends on BISS Talk
Radio, those on Facebook Live questionscomments for Peggy right there on the comments

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section here on Facebook. Thank youfor tuning in biz Talk Radio. Gotta
take a break back after these messages. You are tuned in to Garden America.
Back with Garden America Garden Buddies backin studio. Brian Main Tiger Pellafox,
John Begnasco. Lilies is our topictoday, talking bulbs tigers. We
continue with Peggy. Yeah, we'retalking with Peggy and Montgomery with the Garden
Media group about the bulb of theyear, which is the lily. Now,

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Peggy, I had mentioned before thewe're going to be talking soil.
But I do have a quick questionfor John. When that tree lily would
bloom, When did the plant beginto die for you? Was it a
summer thing? No, it didn't. The plant did not die until the
fall, oh fall, when theweather began to get cold. Okay,

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And I have a quick question forPeggy before you go into the soil,
when is the best time of yearto buy lily bulbs. That's a great
question. You know you can reallyplant them in the spring or the fall.
I generally plant mine in the fall. Several weeks before the first frost
state so that it can put downsome roots and some stem roots and have

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a strong start. But I putin a lot of lily containers this spring
too, okay, So you kindof have a lot of leeway because if
you plant it in the fall,it just pretty much stays there over winters,
maybe establishes itself, but it's reallynot going to grow until the spring
or you know, you can plantit in the spring, but you might

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be a little bit behind, youknow, as far as the schedule goes,
if you wait too long. Sowhat would be spring for for you
in Delaware or early spring? Whenwould you plant them? Would you be
planting them in April? Yeah?Absolutely, okay. And yeah they're not
as fussy as some bulbs that comefrom warmer areas like Dallas that really need

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the soil temperature to be good fiftydegrees or so before they go in.
They're a little more forgiving than that. Okay. And so now you know,
I mentioned the soil, and Iam always thinking bulbs, you know,
and being in southern California, wehave terrible soil. So whenever I
think of bulbs, I feel likeit's impossible to grow in southern California because

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our soil is clay, rocky,you know, sandy, it's not yeah,
it's not loamy at all. Butlily's, like you said, they
grow in a wide range of areasand they can tolerate a lot of things.
Is there anything that people need toconsider when planting the lilies in terms
of maybe their soil or fertilizer oranything like that. The very most important

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thing is that they can't stand inwater. So if you have an area
in your garden where water does accumulatorstands, that's not a good place.
They'll rot in situations like that.So these vaults, a lot of them
come from the far East in theNetherlands. They're grown in very sandy soils,
so they'll take quite a wide rangeof soils as long as they're not

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wet. My soil is kind ofa light clay, and I am always
kind of mixing in some compost orleaf mold into that, and that seems
to be fine if you're going toplant me in the fall. A nice
layer of malt over the top ofthat helps to kind of just regulates the
soil temperature. And then I givethem some after they bloom, you know,

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depending when I plant them in thespring or the fall, I give
them some organic bulb fertile. Theydon't necessarily need it, but why not
make them as happy as you can? Okay? And when it's done in
the fall, is this something thatyou need to naturally let break down and
go back like you need to dowith some bulbs, or is this something
that you know it starts to lookbad, you can cut it down and

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you know it'll be okay for nextyear. Yeah. When you see the
stem and all the leaves and thestem are turning brown, and they finish
turning brown, you can cut itoff right at the soil surface. Okay,
All right, Now I have anotherquestion for you, Peggy, and
with you know, this is abig debate within the lily industry. So

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when you have the lily, doyou do you pull off the little yellow,
pallen stems or do you leave themon the flower? She knows where
you're going with this. Well,it's really funny because I happen to think
they're very lovely, and I don'tuse white tablecloths, so I don't mind
a little pollen on my hands oron my table but my mother in law

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is a florist and the first thingthat she does when she comes over it
pulls them all off base of lily. So yeah, you know, and
people argue that it makes them lastlonger or something, right, and you
know, any think it probably does. I mean, if you pull them
off, the plant isn't trying to, you know, to set seed and
do those other things, and sothey probably do flower a little bit longer

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that way. But I'm a gardener. I don't care if my hands are
orange for a while, and Idon't care if I get a little on
the table. But everybody should do. It makes them happy. And hey,
and look if they're in your youknow, in your wedding bouquet,
you sure don't want that on yourwhite dress. Yeah, that is true.
And you know, the more youmove around the flower, it gets
on the flower. So you kindof like, you know, doesn't it
does. Yeah, it does.When the pond gets on the flower pedal

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itself, that makes them degrade fast. It's like a bag of cheetos,
it is. Yeah, it ispretty much that atom good job Bright.
I agree with Peggy though. Ithink that's part of the flower. Yeah,
I do too. It's kind offun to see that bright yellow.
Yeah, and as long as you'renot using it somewhere where it can be

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stained. But you know, I'drather see the complete flower in my yard,
not Lily eunux everywhere. Lily unixme in to me too, But
you know, to each his own. Whatever anybody likes, that's fine.
But I do think it's part ofthe beauty. And in the garden,
in the yard, do you haveto let them do that in order to

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have them keep producing, you know, bulbs? And you know because you
said, you know, you're you'rewas it your tiger lilies? You're getting
ready to divide, they're getting biggerand things like that. Yeah, No,
you don't have to do that outside. It wouldn't happen in nature,
and you don't need to do it. Some people will do it because they
want their flowers to last a littlebit longer, and if you've got time

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for that and it's important to you, you should do it. But they
definitely don't need to have that happen, got it. That would the only
reason you would need that tiger wouldbe to form seed, not the bulbs.
Right, So, if if youwere breeding lilies, he would definitely
want to leave that. But otherwisethat it's not going to affect the ball.
It's going to be the planet itself, right, uh, Peggy,

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It's going to form little bullblits alongthe stems. Tiger lilies do that,
and you know, and that's perfectlyfine. And you know what, guys,
there's some new breeding going on that'sreally cool. And now we're seeing
double lilies and they don't have anyyou know, answers or anything, so
they don't have any colin and theydon't have any fragrance, and they're just

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gorgeous and they last even longer thanlily's in the base, and my lilies
in the vase gets go for abouttwo weeks. So the double lily,
is it kind of like a doubleAngels trumpet where it's a tube within the
tube of a flower. Is thatwhat the description of the flower is.
No, it's like the regular lilythat you would be thinking of, like

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a regular oriental, but it's gotat least twice as many petals and the
flowers are just very full. They'reabsolutely gorgeous. Wow, And they're beautiful
in the vase. They're great forcutting, they're great in the garden.
They don't have pollen, so forpeople that are worried about that, that's
not a problem. And they're justas pretty as you could be. They're

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gorgeous in a vase. So there'sa lot of new breeding that's coming out
with things like that because some peopledo not like to have cut flower lilies
that have pollen. And you know, most of the lilies attract pollin eaters.
Of course, because they're single varieties, double ones will not, got
it. I've grown double lilies before, and I don't know if I'm right

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on this, Peggy, but itseems like that flower lasts a little bit
longer than a single as we choose. Absolutely, they really do. And
it's again because it's not trying toto not trying to such seats, it's
not trying to appropreate. All ithas to do is flower, and so
they do last a little longer.And it's really exciting. Lily dayson Holland
is coming up and all of thebreeders are going to be showing their new

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varieties and there's some really cool stuffout there. Do you have any recommendations
for people that are looking for lilies, maybe because you know online is kind
of the place to go to nowfor a lot of these bulbs, because
it's so easy to have a thousandvarieties on your online store, and you
know you can ship them where,you know, garden centers and nurseries.

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I'm sure we would love to havea lot of these cool varieties, but
it's just such a challenge today.Do you have any resources that you you
like out there for our listeners tobe able to kind of give them hints
on where to find these Oh,that's a great question too. Well.
Actually, I represent flower Bulbs dotE here in the US, and so
we've got a great website it's calledflower Bulbs dot Eu. But we don't

(28:57):
sell anything. We're go want tobe your your source for inspiration and education.
And so I think that there's alot of you just have to do
a Google search and you'll find quitea few. And these are a lot
of companies that have been around theirfamily companies that have been around for more
than one hundred years. So there'sa lot of credible, wonderful places to

(29:18):
find online to buy lilies or anyother bulbs. And like you say,
it's it's really tough for a gardencenter to have one hundred different varieties of
lilies, and it's much easier todo online and then they'll send them to
you when it's the appropriate time toplanting your area. Yeah, but your
your website flower Bulbs dot e dEU lots of great inspiration, good resources

(29:45):
for information on how to grow them, where to grow them right, all
of that and join us on oursocial media sites too. There's a lot
of gorgeous pictures, informations, willdo giveaways and stuff. And if you
go to flower bulbs dot com onsocial media and you ask a question,
I'm the one that's going to answerit for you. Okay, Hey,

(30:07):
we're going to have to take aquick break again. When we get back,
we'll finish up chatting with Pegy inregarding the Bulb of the Year.
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to Peggy and we're gonna wrap thingsup, Tiger as we continue here on
Guard in America. Yeah, Peggyand Montgomery is joining us again this morning
from the Garden Media Group. AndPeggy, you were just talking about that

(30:52):
you are going to be you arethe resource at was it flower bulbs dot
com on their social bulbs. Wejust got a grant from the European Union,
but all of our social media sitesare flower bulbs dot com. Okay,
And I have the lucky, marvelousjob of representing the European bulk growers
and exporters. And it's even funnerfor me because I lived in the Netherlands

(31:15):
for a long time and so Ikind of feel like I'm batting for the
home team. Yeah. So,you know, when the questions come across,
Peggy is the person that's answering lotsof great experience. You know,
this is probably a busy time.I mean, you know, Mother's Day
is this weekend, Busy springtime.You know, everything's starting to become in

(31:37):
bloom. Everything needs to have alreadybeen in the ground and going, so
lots of fun stuff. Now,now, Peggy, and now how did
the lily? Who chose the lilyfor the Bulb of the Year. Well,
there's two actually, there's two wardsthis year and one is from the
National Gardening Bureau and they do agreat job every year of pulling out some

(32:00):
of the best varieties and the bestplans to help, you know, teach
people about guarding and teach people likewhat are the top varieties out now,
So they're a great resource for anybodythat's looking for information like that. And
then flower bulbs dot Com that's theBulb of the Year too, so we
can shine a light on something specialand you know, things that we just

(32:22):
know consumers are going to be successfulwith because we just want everybody to be
happy, grow bulbs and enjoy yourself. Yeah, and there's so much fun
stuff out there, as we justtalked about, you know, the new
varieties, different things, even oldvarieties that kind of come back into play
sometimes or are fun to kind ofsee, you know, re emerge in

(32:43):
the garden. And what a greatway to introduce some color and some impact
in your yard with the you know, asiatic lilies, the oriental lilies,
the tiger lilies. Just such afun array of lilies. And you know,
like we talked about, they grow, you know, across lots of
zones, very easy to manage,low pass, you know, not a
lot of soil requirements. You know, great information, Peggy, And thank

(33:07):
you very much for joining us thismorning. We will post some of the
links that we talked about onto thechat and into our feed as well.
And you know, I enjoy yourweekend. You know you're gonna be working
in the garden this weekend. Ohyeah, you should see me. I'm
silthy. I've been gardening morning andI'm going back out. Oh well,

(33:29):
we'll have fun. Enjoy it.And thank you for joining us. Thank
you very much for having me.All right, talk to you later.
Bye, bye, take care ofPeggy. Alrighty, there's your there's your
lily talk. There's your bold talkfor the next month. John, I
was just looking at online lily sourcesand he got lost into it. Yeah,

(33:50):
yeah, where am I right now? I forgot about lily's Yeah.
It's not something we talk about usually. No, but you know, even
Solomon and all his glory, it'snot arranged as one of those. No,
not at all, but I lovedhis hair. So anyway, I'm
gonna the tree lilies. I definitely. You know when you think of bulbs

(34:14):
and she's dot Eu right, yeah, right, so you think a lot
of bulbs coming from Folland and yeah, in Europe. But lilies is one
of the few bulbs that there aresome US producers of. There's a lot
in Oregon, Washington, up inthat area, and I'm going to place

(34:36):
an order for fall and plant someof them there. You go. See
the show inspires John as well.Yeah, he came in this morning.
I don't think he had ordering lilieson his mind, I know, but
now see I forgot how many liliesI've grown over the years, over the
years, right, just kind oflike, oh yeah, I had it.
Yeah. I think what I wasthinking of was, you know,

(34:57):
if you go to home depot,you see those little six and and they're
mostly asiatic lily, So I guessthe little short ones and those are the
ones I I kind of thought,you know, this is a waste,
Yeah, but I forget the others. So you've been inspired, been inspired.
Now when you had that other treelily, what did you call it?
A Oriental pet, orient pet,orient pet. Yeah, and it's

(35:22):
from oriental lily crossed with a trumpet, which is you know, easter lilies
or trumpet lilies. So you crossthe orientals with the trumpets and you get
orient pets. It came back yearafter year and and then with more than
one stem okay, so you wouldget maybe a dozen blooms, like eight

(35:42):
feet up in the air, andthen the next year two or three stems
okay. So yeah, it's justit's just by itself. It just kind
of will die down, like youtalked about in the fall, goes away
completely. Next spring, you forgotit was there. Next thing, you
know, the plants three three talland you're like, oh, yeah,
there you are again, and thenit's eight feet tall and putting out flowers.

(36:06):
I don't know if I make itthat personal. I don't really go,
oh there you are there, youare there, you are orient pet.
Yes, my my little orient petexactly. But that but that is
the fun because I've talked about,you know, in my yard, you
know, I have the freezias,I have the paper whites, and they're

(36:29):
just fun to just kind of havecome up right, let them alone,
let them do and they just you'relike, oh wow, that was pretty
thank you, and then they dieand they go away. Thank you for
your brief appearance. But you know, one of the ways that I kind
of like bulbs too, because becauseit gives you a change in your yard.

(36:52):
Because, for instance, if youplant a shrub, let's say,
a sweet pea shrub, a polygolasweet pea shrub, you know, it's
in and out of bloom. It'spretty, it's there, but it's always
there, and you know, hedoesn't leave you room for anything else in
that spot. How long do thosebloom? By the way, The reason
I ask is because I put onein that area that I'm just finishing by

(37:14):
the driveway. It's been in bloomfor probably three months now. Yeah,
I mean they they bloom for avery long period. I honestly don't even
know when they're not blooming, maybeonly in the you know, stretches of
time when they're kind of in betweentheir bloom cycles. But you know,
COMPACTA or the standard big one,I see, I always see him in

(37:36):
the nursery in bloom, you know, but but there. But but anyways,
the lily will go away and thensomething else can take its place and
then it always comes back or theor the bulb. I should say so.
I think they're kind of fun tohave in the yard. Well,
they would be good for a longborder. Yes, you know, if
you've got a lot of different perennialscoming in different times. Somehows. Yeah,
got your quote of the week fornext week, John, what's up?

(37:58):
The quote will be nature blooms atjust the right time when you need
inspiration or a surprise. Oh,Gina Richardson write heard, jeez, that's
next week question? Absolutely, Okay, we've got to Actually I'm going to
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We know some people have to comeand go throughout the broadcast. We
appreciate any time you can give usand any information we can pass along.
You know, our good friend Sherrygave me a source for when we were
in Costa Rica. One of theplants that my wife fell in love with
was the pink orchid try the pinkbohemia, and Sherry gave me this online

(39:06):
source and I ordered one and itcame yesterday, Happy Mother's Day. Right,
well, just the right timing isgood. Well, actually I was
going to give it to Shannon herMother's Day along with something else which I
won't mention on air in case thisis one of the very few times she's
listening. You never know, PlusGina's listening. I don't want Gina to
tell her. Yeah, Gina,don't spoil it, that's right. So

(39:29):
anyway, I was able to getthat. I'm trying to think of the
name of the company right now,the nursery that I bought it from so
I could pass on. But thethey, you know, the Hoya Carrie
I they had a variegated one variegatedleaf and I think the price on it

(39:51):
was twenty six dollars. Okay,but if you ordered any plant, they
gave you one free. Oh wow, I know. So I got a
variegation is a pink? Is ita white? Is it variegated on the
leaf? Yeah? Okay, it'skind of a kind of a creamy grain
neat. Yeah. So I don'tI don't think I would have ever bought

(40:15):
one of those, because what doyou do with them? Hey, Shannon's
super into house plans right now.So it's a great house plan. Yeah,
yeah, but it's it's a fineyeah, exactly. Yeah. Hoyas
are there's you know, there's theStephanotis vine. Yeah, Stephanotus vine,
wonderful white, fragrant trumpet flower.But they just sometimes they do real well.

(40:39):
Sometimes they don't do as well.And that's kind of like the hoya
also, where it's like it's reallykind of a neat plant, but sometimes
it's got to be just in theright area to thrive, and that's hard
to accommodate, you know, especiallyout there in Fallbrook where maybe you have
extreme highs or extreme lows. Doyou know what I found about stephanotis that

(41:04):
for some reason, a lot ofpeople plant them in the shade, right,
they need full son, right,but they can't if you plan them
in full sun they do great.But even yeah, really absolutely really Yeah.
In my old house, that wasalways kind of they. I was
always told they can't tolerate that muchheat, that much exposure. Yeah,
that's why the problem, why Ibring up the point. Yeah, I
don't think that's correct, all right, they like the heat. Sherry.

(41:28):
By the way, it happened tobe listeners. She said, it's uh
Gabrielle growers. Growers. The namedthe woman's name gabriel Gabrielle, gabriel or
Gabrielle. Yeah a minute, gabrielGabrielle. I think it's Gabrielle because it's
g A b R I E ll E. Oh yeah yeah. Before

(41:51):
John, well, if it didn'thave the L E on the end,
it would be gabriel correct, right, as in the Angel. But this
is Gabrielle. If you're on FacebookLive, you can actually see the spelling.
One of the beauties of being onFacebook Live. Oh yeah, it's
right there. Yeah, boom,the A b R I E L l
E, as John said, andthen it pops right up, It pops

(42:13):
right up there pretty suiting. Thelink will pop right up, as we
talked about without even doing anything.Yeah, I gave you know, one
of the one of the advantages ofbeing able to move to Idaho where Gina
lives, as you can grow paandies and that's something we can't do in
San Diego. But anyway, I'vegiven her some p andis as gifts and

(42:36):
they take a year or two togrow, especially the tree pa andies.
But she said, the one thatI bought her two years ago now is
blooming. Ooh pretty, she says. And it's my new plant. I
think she means maybe it's my newfavorite plant, like her new what she
loves to She's going to incorporate more, she said, Is there a prettier

(42:57):
flower to change my mind? Yeah? Yeah? And these are spectacular,
Yeah, they really are. Yeah. Then and they're in there again,
kind of in that fun category thatthey're there but then they go away and
then they come back and they surpriseyou every year, which makes it special,
right, Yeah, as opposed tosomething that's there all the time you
take it for granted. Yeah,like roses, like they're always there.

(43:20):
Who needs the plant always to bethere? Your significant other always there?
Well, you know, speaking ofroses, my h rose seedling table is
just about in full bloom. Really, yeah, I've got anything fun?
Oh yeah, a lot of funstuff. Is there anything blue? Is
there anything? Well? You know, I have I think six or seven

(43:45):
one gallon cans of Manhattan blue right, which is nowhere near blue, but
it's got the name. But it'sgot the name. And uh, those
are all budded. They're not bloomingyet, but those are ready to bloom.
But I've got some, got somereally nice ones. Nice. It's
nice to see things waking up.Yeah, you know you go outside and
oh, look at you. Youtwo days ago, you weren't him bloom?

(44:07):
See John, look that he's notpersonal with his point. Well,
you know, we've had the heat, I'll tell you, accelerating the roses.
You know, a couple two orthree days with the heat, all
of a sudden, you know,there they are. Well, well,
you know, John hit it earliertoo. With us, normally, our
weather is a is a nice liketransition, meaning it goes from fall to

(44:30):
winter, to spring to summer andit just kind of like blends all into
Yeah. Well, the challenge forus is that we've had this very gloomy,
overcast spring, very cool spring aswell. And what happens is now,
all the sudden, one day,these clouds go away and it's it's

(44:52):
scorching sun and our plants are notused to that. But I think right
now, like you're saying, thingslook great because they are in this kind
of like oh waking up. Everything'sfun. And if we can just keep
the clouds around for a little bitlonger, it'll be a good good spring.
A little less watering, yeah,little less water. But if it
all of a sudden pops open andthe sky opens up, it's gonna be

(45:15):
the challenge. It's going to betough. Yeah, Carlo wants to know
if liquid kelp helps with root development. H. I means a fertilizer.
You're not a liquid calp guy,are you necessarily? Are you? Oh?
Yeah, liquid kelp is great.I don't use fish. Was it

(45:35):
something that's it? Bone meal?Is it? Bone meal? Blood meal
is good, but bone meal isthe one that everybody tells you to use,
but they really don't need it.No, No, I think that's
what you were getting. Well.Kelp is good for anything, right,
Yeah, It's got all kinds ofnutrients and organic source of foods growth bamboo.

(45:58):
I think it does the best thingfor root development. If you want
an organic food is elflfa so elfalfa meal. It has a hormone in
it that well that aids in rootdevelopment. So you know, some people

(46:19):
go to the feed store and justby alfalfa pellets really feed to horses really
and just use that as a fertilizerjust working into the ground. Yeah.
See, I kind of just goand buy the all purpose box because it's
got it all in there. Youknow, there's a little bit of everything
in there. You know, youread the side of the box. I
got alfalfa, cottonseed, blood bone, just got it all great concoction exactly.

(46:45):
You know, when you're putting downthe fertilizer for the spring season.
The one thing that I do I'venoticed with we've been educating my guys,
my crews, is to you know, don't just drop it at the base
of the plant. You know alot of people will just take the granular

(47:06):
fertilizer powder fertilized. They put itright next to the stump, right next
to the stem of the plant,and you know they don't they don't like
it. Number One and number two, your workers with a plant. Well,
yeah, yeah, exactly. Theplant doesn't like it, but my
workers are frustrating. And number twois, you know, plants absorb things
around what they're called their drip line, so kind of like a little bit

(47:28):
outside of the of the of thestem. It's so funny that the tendency
to want to put everything right therewhere the where the stems coming like,
it's like it's got a mouth rightthere and it's going to chew on it
right when, like you said,in and around the plant, because it's
going to be whether it's a potor outdoors in regular garden, it's going
to be absorbed around that plant.Yeah. So yeah, right there,
I got to put it right thereby where it's sticking up. John John

(47:51):
takes his little osma coat pellets andfeeds it to the roses. Yeah.
I've noticed as osma code is notnecessarily right there. It's all around.
Yeah, I don't my cooda anymore. What happened he got turned on to
a biostart. Yeah, yeah,you said you can get that, right,
I said we can, or Siteone can get it. So if

(48:13):
you have a site one near you, they should be never heard of Site
one. Did you tell me aboutthat? Yes? Do you remember Hydroscape?
Yeah, they are the company thattook over Hydroscape or John Deere Landscape
Supply. Do you remember them atall? No? Okay, yeah,
they're big intractors. So with that, we're going to take a break.
It is a bistalk radio break timehere on guard in America. Well we

(48:34):
come back. I want to finishwith the thought that I just got diverted
on. But we can get backto don't we were talking about rose.
Let's make this break quick. Well, we can do real quick here on
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(48:54):
from San Diego, California. iHeartMediaand entertainment. Those on BISS Talk Radio.
Welcome John back to your point beforeyou forget talking roses. Yeah,
the reason I brought up the roseseedlings was because Tiger's working on an interview
with heirloom roses. Yes for maybethree weeks from now, four weeks from

(49:16):
now, and the reason we're goingto have them on is because they are
going to sponsor a name the Rosecontest, and it happens to be one
of my rose seedlings that they're goingto put into commerce and they'll be the
source for selling it, and peopleare going to put in their ideas on

(49:36):
a name for that particular rose.Are we void reprohibited? No, you
can put in a name, andyou're good at names. John's Booty I
would say that probably will not win. Well, wait a second, we're
talking pirates, right, Yeah,exactly. I was like, it's a
treasure. Like I'm just saying it'snot going to win. Come on,
booty call, that's not going towin. No, Brian, you're much

(49:59):
better at names than Tiger. Wellwe'll say, well, see either the
names I come up with or arealready taken. Who's wait a minute now,
you say it's not going to win, but who's voting on this?
Because heirloom Rose that's going to makethe final decision. Put it in,
See what happens. See what happens. I think I think John's Booty would
be a good name for a rose. Well it might, but I don't

(50:22):
think I think heirlin wants something thatis more universal, like not when they're
advertising the Rose Story Nights. Butthere's a lot of John's like that story
Story Night. It's the name ofa petunia. The name of a painting
is well, yeah, that's bengo. But see what happens when I

(50:42):
come up it's already named. Yeah, look at it. When I come
up with a name, he doesn'tlike it. Wants to satisfies John.
That's true, immediately satisfied as longas I get what I want, I
want and how much I want.Yes, Hey, Millie wanted to know
the fertilizer. I said, Iused. It's called Biostart, and I

(51:02):
don't know if it's available anywhere bygrow More. It's made by Growmore.
It's a special blend, right,so they do. If you shop at
a retailer who sells grow More products, you might ask them if they can
get it. It comes in fiftypound bags forty pound bags. Anyway,

(51:24):
it's the most complete fertilizer I've everseen. I really like it. There's
also some good you know, Ihaven't used them because I don't have access
to their products like you do.But there's some great fertil om products that
are organnack that could be substituted ifyou can't find that. Yeah. Rick

(51:52):
says that he missed the guest today, but that uh, he started seriously
growing Lilia's when he moved to Oregon. Now that he's in Idaho, he's
growing them because there's so many differenttypes. Oregon and Washington were two states
that Peggy mentioned this morning, right, big growers, Right, and uh,
I think the number one Easter Lilyagueproducer is in Oregon. Oh really?

(52:15):
Yeah, you know the body is. Rick can go back and watch
the show or listen to the showjust about any digital or streaming means possible.
So Rick, go back to Facebookor YouTube this afternoon or Alexa if
you have Alexa, Spotify, Googleyou wind is right now. Pandora maybe
I don't know. Joe Ruggan's bigone was a Pandora. That's where he
got his contract. Was that whatyou were going to mention after the break?

(52:44):
You were mentioning the contest the context, right, Okay, I just
want to make sure you follow itup with your thought. Your train's thank
you. I appreciate that. Yeah, but yeah, no, we're going
to have someone from Airloom Rose joinus talk about the con test. It's
yours the only rose they're looking toname, or do they have other ones
as well? Mine is the onlyone? Wait a minute, before we

(53:07):
name a rose, we need toknow a little bit about it. It's
origin, the color, and howwell it performs. Origin is me?
Okay? Faubril, California? Right, it's a flat single white that is
a soft pink, but in theheat it turns white. So it's a

(53:30):
very light pink turns white in theheat. And about the hues, does
it have hues? What about thefragrance? Do they have a fragrance?
Oh? Yeah, that's good,good question. No, it doesn't have
a fragrance, okay at all?Well, I can't void. I can't
void of fragrance. You guys wouldhave to smell it. But it does

(53:51):
produce in huge clusters and when theplants in full bloom, you can't even
see the leaves. Do you haveone? Yes? Are you going to
bring it in for when we dothe show? No, because they'd have
to get up. But don't youthink this was I guess I could bring
in a cutting of this is somethingyou would need. We're coming up with
a name, ye need to knowthat because the name should somehow. I'm

(54:12):
sure they're going to have pictures ofit on their website. Right when do
you go to name it white?No fragrant, flat, flat, but
huge clusters of flowers. The wholething is covered in pink clusters. Tiger
think clusters. All right, allright, I'm rolling. I'm going to
win this contest, all right,all right? Kevin and Cordelaine says that

(54:35):
they are at seventy five degrees yesterday. That's warmer than Sandygo, San Diego.
Yes, so if you're too coldin San Diego, move iaho.
Yeah, I mean I probably Genais probably warmer than us too, right.
You know, I was talking tomy wife about this. Kevin said
that they saw the Aurora borealis lastnight. What did you hear about that?

(54:57):
No, wait a minute, he'snot that far far north to see
that. No, no, this, uh, all the northern states were
supposed to be able to see.Oh last night. It was a special
moment, Yeah, a unique eventwhere the like Haley's comment on seventy five
years, No, this is notregular like Haley's comment. It was it

(55:19):
had to do with I think Ihad to do something with the magnetism and
the sun spots and getting into theaccess tilt and all that kind of stuff.
Yeah, I don't know any ofthe Seinfeld joke or whatever is to
do with a Oh man, Iblew it. You guys always said it,
what really it has to do withthe atoms or something like that.

(55:42):
You guys would say it was likea Seinfeld joke. Oh I I used
to say my joke from when Iwas a kid that it was that's the
molecules. Oh, maybe it wasthe molecules. Do with the molecules?
That that happened when I was aboutten years old at my cousin's house.
We were in the kitchen and uh, there was a little neighbor girl there

(56:07):
also, she was about like fiveyears old, and my aunt was was
boiling water on the stove. Ithink maybe to make her remember this story.
And it boiled over exactly and shewent and turned and she goes,
oh, it got too hot.And the little girl goes, I know,

(56:27):
it's the molecules. We used tohave an engineer at a radio station
I used to work for. Anytimesomething would would go wrong with the equipment,
Hey John, engineer, this happenedhow come this doesn't work? His
answer is always ballistics. Ballistics.We're smart enough to know that ballistics has

(56:51):
to do with gun and criminal homicideinvestigations. You know, you can't throw
ballistics around anymore. We're not goingto buy it. We've got to take
a break. John, you've gotsomething on your mind. Dana came up
with the perfect name for the rose. I think she's going to beat you
delete her comment. Yeah, Ohwow, good name. It's a good

(57:13):
name. And you know what,I don't think there's a rose named that.
No, there is, And weshould explain to people why that's a
good name and where we learned it. Maybe when we come back after these
messages. On BizTalk Radio, GardenAmerica continues. It is Garden America with
your garden buddies, Brian Maine,John Beg Nasco Tiger, Pela Fox,
having a great time this morning,going here, there and everywhere, and
again Dana comes up with John,the name of the rose that she's talking

(57:37):
about. Yeah, where does thatphrase come from? Well? Coasta Rican
and it's like it's like everyone saysit all the time, like in Hawaii.
I think the literal translation is purelife, right, correct? So
they say it when you greet somebody, when you say goodbye to somebody,
or just in a conversation. Yeah, it can help you break into the
rose marketing costa Rica too. Iwonder if you could substitute that for bless

(58:02):
his heart, blessure. Sure,you know what it is, bless your
heart, because remember Eduardo, sometimessomebody would say something and you would just
see him shake his head and justsay, yeah, it's kind of like
bless your He had several phrases hewould use. All right, well,
Danny, you've got to enter officiallyinto the contest and do it right,

(58:24):
do it right? Yeah, well, well we've got the details coming up.
Everybody likes that name though, Yeah, Dana. Right now is in
the late Kevin wants you to explainhow to register a rose in the patent
name, Like, how do youdo it? Yeah, you don't want

(58:45):
a patent a rose unless you're willingto spend six to ten thousand dollars because
that's so much a patent costs,and that patent's only good for a certain
twenty years. Twenty years, right, yeah, right, So you can
trademark a rose for about I thinkin the last time I trademarked something that

(59:06):
was about twelve hundred dollars, maybea little less, I'm not sure,
but it's easier to trademark a rose. The difference is, if you patent
a rose, no one can produceit without it without your permission, got
the express written consent of the NationalFootball League exactly. But if you trademark

(59:27):
arose, anybody can produce it,but they can't use the name. You
can't use the name on it andtrying to sell it, right, So
a lot of people will grow DavidAustin roses which are trademarked and just use
the breeder name so you know whatit is. So if someone looked up
the breeder name, they could findout what rose that really was. Let's

(59:52):
see, Joey says that he usesa deepot feeder for deep watering on its
trees and wants to know if hecan use the biostart. Nice thing about
that bio start. It's completely watersoluble, So yes, you could do
that, because yeah, rootfeeder isjust an injector, right, isn't it

(01:00:12):
That steak and you hook up thehose, do it? You put the
fertilizer in there and it injects itinto the cell. So yeah, because
it's a water soluble fertilizer, thatwould easily work. Yeah. So anyway,
the way that you know, wewere just talking about patenting and trademarking,
So what you would do would goto the US Patent and Trademark site.

(01:00:37):
I think it's uspto dot com andyou can You have to apply for
a registration first, and then theydo all the research to make sure that
no one's choosing it, and thenyou can go ahead and do it.
And you've got to pay them toregister it. But there's on a true

(01:00:59):
patent, there's so much legal working. You need a lawyer to do it.
And that's where the that's where allthe costs come in. Uh,
somebody just posted the Carla posted thedownside of Dana winning the contest. The
prize is going to be fifty roses. Yeah, but I know a place

(01:01:22):
for they would thrive. I thinkthat the I'm not positive, but I
think the prize is going to beone rose maybe that particular. I'm not
sure if we'll have to see whatthey come up with. But it's kind
of fun. It's always fun tokind of have those contests and it's kind

(01:01:45):
of fun to see what people comeup with. People are so creative,
sure with these names, you know, like look at that. You know
it's you know, a good thingfor us. And somebody else will see
a picture of the rose and somethingwill spark their imagination and maybe you didn't
even think of it, and you'relike wow. You know. Back in
the early seventies, Paul McCartney hadan album called Red Rose Speedway and he

(01:02:07):
had a rose in his mouth sideways. Think so Red Roast Speedway was a
rat on a racetrack? No,not just yeah, I'm not sure.
I'm not sure what the correlation was. But there's a we know there's a
rose name McCartney. Wasn't there amonkey that uh promoted a tea brand?

(01:02:28):
Tea brand that was red Rose,Red Rose Tea. I don't remember.
Do you remember Red Roast Tea?No? So I still tea has all
those bears. I know, busDriver tea. This was a chimpanzee.
Oh, there was promoting Red Rosetea. And for some reason I seem
to recall him having a rose inhis mouth. That's similar to what you

(01:02:51):
were discussing. I think, yes, exactly, Yeah, tea is made
from plants, which is why wewould say that on this program. Dana's
panicking. She just said, no, you can't bring them home. Bra.
You know what, It's so funnybecause she says that when I bring
something home a day later, she'staking care of it. Oh. I
think it's so nice. We canput it right here. It looks really

(01:03:13):
good out here. Did you eversee the Our good friend Kathy Uh posted
a picture of balcony after someone hadgone house blanchopping and it was just completely
full. Uh, And she wantedto know, Dana, is this what

(01:03:34):
your patio? Yeah? Exactly.That was kind of funny. Can you
see this, John, Yes,that's so. It's not like crossways the
rose in his mouth? Yeah.Would would you notice if Dana went out
to your patio and pulled off oneplant and took it away? I notice

(01:04:00):
everything, you would it's missing.I tell look, if you put a
dime in the corner and then twodays later I came out, I'd noticed
the dime was gone. I know. Every little askers that's what frustrates her.
You want to put there. No, if let's say it was there,
Let's say it was in the cornerout of the way. Okay,
can you forget about it? Thenext time I'm in that room, I

(01:04:20):
noticed the dime's gone to the pennywhatever I mean, I every little thing.
If you move something to the leftof the right, Yeah, yeah,
I would know it. I knowevery inch of that patio, every
inch of the front yard, thesidewalk. That's the thing with John's.
I could probably walk out to hisbackyard remove three roses and he wouldn't know

(01:04:43):
it. No, I would.He wouldn't, right, because you're so
You're so into it that the passion, you know where everything should be.
Yeah, how about you though,aren't you like that? We could have
fun with you just moving anything around, remove something, especially the nursery.

(01:05:03):
Yeah. I I bought my wifea plant for Mother's Day and I put
it in the back of the houseunder the eucalyptus tree. They said,
she never goes there, she'll nevernotice. You never know there. And
the other day we were a coupleof days ago, we were walking around

(01:05:24):
the house and she starts walking outto that area and I go, what
are you doing? You don't wantto go over there? Come here and
look at this. What are youdoing? And she's standing with her back
to that plant. Yeah, shesays, Oh, I just wanted to
look at the weeds. Which isan area that I planted last year where
we put all the drip irrigations,now full of leaves. By the way,

(01:05:48):
I'm not sure I'm happy with thatdrip irrigation. You were so happy
before, I know. But youknow when you let it overgrow with weeds
and then you go to pull outthe weeds and they're so big you can't
pull the mountain and use the shovelit cuts right through it. Well,
that's the incentive not to let weedsgrow. By the way, here's a
question, because everyone weeds are plants. We know that. Do weeds have

(01:06:13):
scientific names? Yeah, of coursethey do. All plants do. I
know, But I've never heard.I've never heard give me an example of
it, like a like a milkweed. What is that's not a milk weeds
in a yesclepias. That's different.You're talking like, for instance, like
a dandelion welled, right, ButI could I could see where that what
about just like some every plant ispriminate, every criminate o solid spurge bermuda

(01:06:41):
grass has a botanical name, likeevery plant has a botanical name. Even
the random little weed that comes upthat you can't even identify you because that's
the thing is somewhere else that weedcould be an actual plant that righteople want
to play. It was what wasBruce's quote, weeds are just missing understood
plants or something missing. He hadsome well, Luther Burbank set of weed

(01:07:05):
is an uneducated plant. I'll gowith that. Yeah, but yeah,
but I feel like that's not trueat all. I think weeds are probably
the most educated. They're the onesthat thrive anywhere. You know. Yeah,
when we were in Costa Rica,Tiger found the sensitive plants were weeds
there, right, they were growingline. Yeah, and it's a house

(01:07:26):
plan here. Okay, So we'regonna take a break. We've got one
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This is Garden America. Everybody,We have made it. Usually there's a
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segment. You know, shows almostover us. So a little polite applause

(01:07:49):
for those that have been like,how long is this show going to go
on? For goodness, gracious,I'm surprised how many listeners are saying that
Red Rose Tea is their favorite.It's actual brand of tea. Yeah.
Interesting? How can I make upa commercial with a monkey and Red Rose
tea if it wasn't real? Becauseyou drank the Red Roads tea and you've

(01:08:10):
done it, said a lot ofthings in the past that weren't real that
we bought. But is Red RoseTea a brandy? No? No,
it's a brand. Okay, redRoasse. Take bus driver tea? What
bust driver tea? You know whatthat is? That's Lipton, the guy
with the old white hat. That'scalled We call it bus driver tea because
it's a it's a bus driver witha white hat and the Lipton package.

(01:08:30):
I always wondered that when I wasI never understood the flow through tea.
Big We've only got seven minutes here, I think you do, I mean
we buy Lipton tea. Well,that's just when I was the process of
how they're the water flows through theirtea bags and gives you the ultimate tea

(01:08:51):
at the very end, when wewere. When I was a young young
boy, our favorite tea was SalotedTea. Do you remember that brand?
Still loud? I think I do, vaguely. And the reason that I
liked it when I was little wasbecause the the little tag at the end

(01:09:12):
of the string had on the backof it had a quote or saying,
so you would get to read thatwhen you drank your tea and think about
it. Graham Crackers and Graham crackers, Graham Crackers and tea. Yeah,
no, I had to dip themquick otherwise the graham cracker would fall apart

(01:09:34):
and melt into the tea. Don'teven want to dip? Yeah? Really,
Graham crackers and tea. Yeah,you never had a did, so
we shouldn't have an opinion that shouldwe? Well, don't put the bad
mouth on it. Until don't putthe bad mouth on it? You know
what your hip you'd been hanging aroundkids lately, the younger generation. Hey,

(01:09:55):
dude, don't put the bad mouthon it. Yeah, that sounds
that sounds very beat nick late fithese early sixties, I might have put
the bad mouth on you like that. Wasn't there a group named bad Mouth,
Bad Finger bad Fingers the same thingsmash Mouth. So yeah, smashing
Pumpkins, smash Mouth I never thoughtwas any good. They had what one

(01:10:18):
song that's like Nickelback get they getall the bad press as well. Man,
you were talking about weeds growing,Yeah, just you know whether they
have a botanical name or not.And you know, yeah, they all
there's some obvious ones, but thenthere's the ones that just come up just

(01:10:38):
like grass. They're like but butyou know that the crazy thing is,
you know, we talked about weedswhen we were in Costa Rica. The
weeds in Costa Rica, as wetalked about the sensitive plant, were obviously
exotic to us, but you knowit still can't get over the weeds of

(01:10:59):
a vermeiliad that were massive in trees. Those those are weeds to those people.
Like people probably go out in theiryard and they're like, I gotta
get all these milliony the tree,you know, and you know they're growing
on their trees and they're like,I got to get rid of the protection.
Like the animals you would randomly see, yeah, the exotic animals that
we would never see here. Justyeah, or or like in the South

(01:11:24):
when they have Spanish moss growing outof the trees and you're like, oh,
that looks so pretty, and like, oh, I got to get
someone up there to pull out allthat. I can't think of a worse
place to be than deep in theswamps of Louisiana or Louisiana the bogs.
What if you were looking for anivory built woodpecker, Yeah, I'd want

(01:11:44):
to be dressed appropriately. It saysthat that that's the only place they may
exist is the swamps of the swampsof the south somewhere. It's uh,
there's been reported sightings of one,but I don't think there's been a documented
sighting for like one hundred years.Sasquatch reported sightings, Well, I've readbid

(01:12:09):
build woodpeckers were real, though youtrys say sasquatch is not really Well,
you know why all the all thesasquatch, you're a non believa, are
blurry not a focus, because thesign is now realized that that sasquatch is
naturally blurry and not a focus.It's not the camera. Uh you want
to answer, Rick, I wasjust wondering if you're going to tell the

(01:12:30):
joke about the monkey and the bus. Oh that that's a good visual joke.
I should have told that on thebus. On the bus ride,
Rick says that it's a little offtop topic, but he saw an article
that said that woodchips need a lotof nitrogen to break them down, and
if you use a compost heavy withwood chips, you should add more nitrogen
when you plant muh I. Idon't think if you're using it as a

(01:12:57):
malt you need extra nitrogen. Ifyou have raw wood and you're mixing it
in the soil, then you canpull nitrogen from the soil and plants can
turn yellow. But just on thesurface, I don't think there's a problem.
And when we say wood chips,here's the big determination. Right when

(01:13:20):
you use like what you say,natural wood products, it's fine. It's
more when you buy that product that'slike the shredded palatized threaded lumber product that's
been dried or like sawdust. Yeah, that is what they're describing as far
as it's actually will require nitrogen tobreak down and amend. So you know

(01:13:43):
what you said. As far asif you're using it as a bark and
you're just dropping it on top,some people talk about it absorbing nitrogen,
but I don't think it's as biga deal. But as you if you're
amending the soil with it, you'reactually incorporating it into the ground. Yes,
to break down that would would requirenitrogen, and it'll actually you know,

(01:14:03):
suck it up and deplete your soilof nitrogen. But that's where I
also kind of say, use naturalmulches, you know, shredded redwood,
bark, nugget that those products youare not gonna you're not gonna have the
same problem as the shredded palletized orlumber material. And with that we have

(01:14:25):
one minute until the show comes toa graceful end. Shredded pepper trees,
that's what I use. Yeah,just make sure you don't get the seeds.
Yeah, it made the mistake withash multch just thousands of ash SAPs.
Yeah. All right, gentlemen,what do you say we Happy Mother's
Day? Close the door on thisshow. Happy Mother's Day to each and

(01:14:45):
every mom out there. Yeah,we do appreciate you. Have fun at
the garden walk. Yes, that'stomorrow or today today, today, It
started today, started now starting inthirty minutes. You have to pay for
that, yes you do, butthey do have tickets available if you go
to the nursery. There still aretickets available all right for the entire crew.
Tiger Palafox, John Magnasco, I'mBrian Maine. Thank you for tuning

(01:15:08):
in. Enjoy the rest of yourweekend, Happy Mother's Day. We'll do
it again next week right here onGuarden America. Take care and be safe.

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