World Naked Gardening Day Costa Rica Adventures - Garden America Podcast & Radio Show [5.4.24] - Garden America - Gardening Podcast & Talk Radio Show

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Well, there you are. Howabout that we are back in studio broadcasting
live, well live right now,but maybe a pre recorded show that you're
listening to later on down the roadfrom the iHeartMedia and Entertainment Studios in beautiful
San Diego, California. The boysare back in town. As was that
Brownsville station or Thin Lizzie one ofthe two groups here. I'm gonna have
to review my music history John John'sfeedback there? What would it be without

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a John beg Nasco iPhone feedback?Tiger, I just wanted you to know
that I was back and everything isthe way it used to it used to
be. From Coasta Rica, backto San Diego again. Tiger hooked us
up. Tucker, you hooked usup with the live show from our hotel
in Coast Rega. That bad Wehad two bars on the Wi Fi,
Yeah exactly, but we got on. Did you watch it back? I

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did? What did you think Idid? I thought it was really good
based on where we were. Frozeup a couple of two or three times,
but the point was there, andthe point being we're in Coasta Rericy.
We're broadcasting live at that time,and I thought we did a good
job. We got some good feedback. What a trip, Yeah, really
that was Are we gonna go next? What do you start? We need
to start planning. We got toreview this trip is already on the next

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one. Yeah, where do westart? Well, we started in San
Jose. Yeah, San Jose andwhere we landed. And if if anybody
had watched, you know, Briannever knew the way, but now I
do now, Yeah, but Ithink it's the wrong San Jose. John,
That's where the confusion is, allright, anyway, Tiger, that
old reference. Please continue Tiger Well, Dion Warwick Tiger in case you're wont

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oh, thank you. I Iwas definitely wondering. Well, you know,
if you had watched the Costa Ricashow, we talked about some pretty
pretty amazing things and one of thethings I had mentioned, and just to
start off in San Jose was mymy plant that I was most impressed with
to some degree was in San Josebecause we're in this hotel in the middle

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of a city. And what wasit like it was like a Hilton or
best like Yeah, it was somethen I can't remember what it was,
fancy garden Hilton, Yeah, somethinglike that. And in their pool area
they had a chocolate plant just growingright there and it had the cocoa beans
on there, and I was justyou know, that's when you realize you're

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in a different right when you seethings growing wild that you would only find
it a nursery or or some plant, or you'll never find that here,
right yea, when all the weedsare house plants exact how you're in a
different climate. So that first hotel, we were just there quickly overnight.
We arrived late, got about fourhours sleep on the bus the next day

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heading west. Doky Doke right rightright, Doka. Well, the Doka
was the coffee plant. That's wherewe had. That was our first stop.
Was that was I really enjoyed thatwe brought some coffee home. I
was impressed to see Geisha, whichwas that coffee that John you know,

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had mentioned years ago about being avery expensive, exclusive type of coffee,
very popular in Japan, Japan,the California Geisha. Yeah, in Asia,
but you were saying it's popular inAsia, right, because in Asia,
you're looking at a tea market andthey're switching over to coffee. You're

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switching them over to coffee, sothey like coffee blends that aren't bitter but
have more of a floral if youcan describe coffee as having a floral taste,
yeah, floral notes. There yougo, Brian. But on the
sign you can see though, oneach of those different types, they had

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different little indicators, and they hadproductivity, and you know, they would
put like five beans for very productiveplants. Geisia had two, you know,
So I can see why it's veryexclusive or very expensive, right.
Well, yeah, and also it'smore expensive in California because it takes much
longer to ripen than it does overthere in Costa Rica. But we saw

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the different varieties. Yeah, theyhad them all planeted there and they are
testing one in Costa Rica that wasbeing grown in California, which is the
variety that has virtually no caffeine.Yeah, the cat free. What did
they tell us the difference between theirdecaf and the kind you buy in the

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store. There's a there's a wellto decaffeinate coffee. There's a chemical process,
right, and they don't do that. They don't they use for meldehyde
I think in some of it.So, yeah, if you have a
coffee that's naturally decaffeinated, how muchhealthier is that going to be? Yeah,
exactly. Yeah, the coffee webrought back very good, Oh my
gosh. And then it was reallyfunny. Our tour guide was answering all

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kinds of questions and somebody asked,because in Costa Rica you have wildlife every
birds, bats, animals, justeverywhere you go there's wildlife, right,
and a lot of death things onthe side of the road, guys that
you're very familiar with. But butsomebody had asked, like, what eats
you know, what eats coffee?You know what eats coffee beans? Like

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what critter? You know kind ofa thing, And she was commenting like,
there really is nothing. Coffee plantsare plagued by fungal issues, some
kind of disease and beatle. Right, those were the two things right that
she said, plague, the plantsare not that, you know, they
don't have to worry about the twocans eating all the coffee beans. They
don't have to worry about rats orroads eating all the coffee beans. It

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was they do have that cat thateats the coffee beans, do they?
Yeah? One cat. Well,that's the most expensive coffee in the world,
is is that? But was itin Costa Rica? I don't know.
I don't think that cat is inCosta Rica Asia, soone or hondurass
Hey, by the way, justgot a text from my lovely wife Dana.

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She said, I just asked Alexato play the Garden America Radio broadcast
on Facebook and it's playing our livebroadcast from Costa Rica. And the difference
is there's no video freezing up.You'll get the entire audio, so you
should. It should be a decent, decent playback. So there you go,
DA make your data. Always aproducer, Dean. It was a

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pleasure to have on the trip too, you know, a traveler. Yeah,
exactly, well prepared, well organized, you know, just went along
with the flow. Brian invited allhis high school buddies on the trip.
Showed up. Yeah where is Kevin? Why expect to see Kevin? He
just posted a comment. Yeah,good morning, dear diary. Yeah exactly.

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Beautiful family, right exactly. Andwe're talking about no caffeine in the
coffee and how it's how they blendedand what they do to it. And
Carla says, is it really coffee? Then? Right? Well, Carson
is a variety. But I'm acaffeine guy too, if it doesn't have
caffeine and not drinking it. Yeah, first of all, don't like coffee,
So if it doesn't have caffeine,what's the point. Yeah, I

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like coffee. I like it,doctored you do? You don't like it,
black dude? No, no,no, no no. You know
all the coffee machines at the conveniencestore, right that John does his own
custom blend there of coffee, ofmachiato sugar. Is that it's not coffee
by the time it's done, it'sone third today's coffee, one third caramel

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machiato, one third coffee oil,and one third uh whatever the extra did
you just say? Like, didyou just say four thirds today? You
think? So? It's all right, we get the point. Yeah.
The only thing that would make himhappy right now is ice cream. You

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know what you are an ice creamfanatic. One nice thing about being married
for a long time as you getolder, yeah, is that you your
spouse doesn't listen to what you say. Just listen to what you mean,
right, Yeah. Yeah, AndI have been married to you guys for
a while, but not as longas Shannon Tanya Tanya, you know Tanya

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and San Jose. I agree withyou. I liked a little coffee with
my cream. Wasn't there a commercialyears ago? You're the cream in my
coffee? Was that? Yeah?I think so no commercial. What I
guarantee what if our listeners, reviewerswill know, uh, they'll remind us
of what that was. So youknow the other thing that was, I
mean, I don't know what whetherto say this was impressive, but just

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different is that. You know inCosta Rica, wherever you went, everything
was manual labor. Still. Youknow when we talked about the coffee plantation,
we talk about the pineapple fields,about sugarcanes, and you're seeing you
don't see machines out there chopping thingsdown. You don't see big tractors like
doing whatever they It's manual labor.So the coffee is hand picked, right,

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and then they go and they doall of this processing, washing and
all of that. And then they'redescribing the process of taking out in the
middle of that concrete arena and dryingit and turning it by hand. You
know, they had to feel theirbaskets though, or they don't get paid

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or they get paid half. Whatwas it twenty eight It was twenty eight
pounds, right, I think itwas like eight not eight dollars, like
eight klonnas of basket something something.But but yeah, if you don't don't
pick it right or don't get enough, you don't get paid. Yeah,
and it goes back to what you'resaying. Everything's hand picked. There's no
machine. Yeah, you know.One of the most fun things was squeezing
that sugar cane. Oh that wasa fun. Yeah. The video got

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posted until I figured out til Ifigured out how to do it, because
there's a there's one a roller ontop and a roller the bottom, and
you're just saying it instead of coordinatingwith a guy next to you, and
I set you up a tour.Afterwards, she goes, of course,
it wouldn't be any fun. That'swhy. That's why she goes, that's
why I don't say that, becausewhen I got called on first, and
the first thing I did was wentto the front where you all I had

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to do is hold on to it, keep it from hitting the ground.
I didn't have to do any turning. So we'll get a break coming up,
and you've got the quota of theof the week. Go ahead,
and Tiger quickly one stick. Howlong do you think that stick of sugar
cane was about eight eight feet eightfeet one eight foot piece of sugar cane.
Two pitchers, Yeah, shoes juice, sugar juice. And you know

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what, it wasn't as sweet asyou as I thought it would be.
It was good. She said thatthat shrinks down to however much sugar,
but it was good. Okay,we're gonna take a break. Welcome those
on BIZ Talk Radio. Thank youfor tuning in. Now we are back
from Costa Rica. More on CoastaRica, more of your questions, more
of your comments, the newsletter,John's Quote of the Week coming up next
right here on Guard in America.Right back from the break, those on

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BIS Talk Radio. We appreciate whatyou do for us every single week.
Thank you to our sponsors Fertilan forbringing you Garden America. Fertileum also brings
us Guard in America as well.John, As we've got that great quote
of the week. Quote of theweek. Brian is from d Elton.
True Blood. Oh, the TrueBlood's great family. They go way back.

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I think he was a close personalfriend of Herbert Hoover. Really yeah,
that's random. He was like HerbertHoover's BB Robosa BB Robosa for those
that remember Watergate in the Nixon administration. Yeah, he was a friend of
Nixon, right. I think hewas that type of person. I think
he was also an author. Hewrote a bunch of books, an educator.

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Yeah, he loved grew orange treesas well. True bud sounds like
something. What was that vampire movie? Yeah, wasn't that a vampire thing?
Anyway? He said that a manhas made at least a start on
discovering the meaning of human life whenhe plants shade trees under which he knows

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full well he will never sit.Yeah. Yeah, well that's true,
which I'm doing at my house exactlyplanning. I was talking with this couple
earlier this week. They would wantto do their landscape and they want to
do natives, and they wanted sometrees, and I'm like, well,
there's not a lot of native trees. You know. You can do sycamore,

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you can do pines, you cando oaks, And so was moms.
I said, you know, so, you know, but what about
some what we call like semi nativetrees. So I had mentioned our beutus,
which is a strawberry tree, alot of people will call that a
native or you know, like likenative tree. And then the red bud

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the cursus. John's mentioned that aton of times because it's such cool new
varieties of red bud trees and like, okay, those are nice, Like,
but what if we wanted to doa live oak and this is a
small home in Mission Hill. Thisis their question is yeah, and they're
like, what if we did wantto do I'm like, well, you
could I go, But you know, there's a couple problems. Number one,
the live oak would be bigger thanyour house eventually, and about that

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root system when yeah, and itwould totally just tear everything up or you
know, and number two but don'tworry about it. You'll never see that
happen, you know, not inyour lifetime. Yeah. So you know,
they were like, it's going tobe somebody else's problem exactly on down
the line, totally regret having thislive oat in their front. You know,
I grew up in Pacific Beach herein San Diego, and I don't

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know if there's still as many asthere once were, but we had pine
cones, pine trees everywhere, yeahfront, Yeah, not as many,
there is no nowhere near, butthey did do that for a while.
Oliver Street. Are you familiar withOliver Street from from the from the ocean?
I don't know, ten twelve thirteenblocks heading east. These trees grow
over the street. Yeah, virtuallyno sunlight, but just kind of a

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kind of a canopy over the streetall the way down about two or three
miles. I think that was inthe sixties. Yes, when a developer
came in and stop. They wantedthe beach area to look more like Pebble
Beach area. Yea, and ofmine, I grew up playing with their
kids. They had two of themin their in their front yard on peebe
Drive. We used to climb thetrees all the time. Pine cones everywhere,
but not as much anymore that theytook them out some some of the

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back well they don't make sense,right, meaning you know, once somebody
decided to take it out, theydid not put the pine back in right,
right. But you know, you'reright. That was the pine period.
Everybody was planning pines. And thenafter that there was a movement away
to palms, and palms started goingeverywhere. Yeah, and now palms,

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aren't you the pine scare of thesixties. I think the pin like square.
But what John is referring to iskind of actually happening in San Diego
because San Diego's tourism vision is palmtrees and stuff tropics. But you think
of it, we are not replantingour palms with palms. So those areas

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that line. There's this area Sunsetboulevarded, Mission Boulevard and Mission Hills,
and it's lined with palm trees.It's that classic like Beverly Hills view of
beach driving the Canamera. Yes,okay, well, these palms are sixty
seventy feet tall. Now they've died, they fall down, they get taken
out, and now it's trees.And so eventually, I don't know,

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in maybe another ten years, thatroad will not be a palm road anymore.
Did you see the airport. Takea look at the airport when you
pull up, Palm trees right bythe parking structure, all the way down,
giving people, Oh, I'm inSan Diego, I'm in tropical Yeah,
okay, if you want to believethat, that's fine. Yeah,
you think of that if you livein northern Michigan, but you know we're

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actually Mediterranean climate. You know,we're much farther north than southern Texas.
Oh. Absolutely, Yeah, ourhumidity is just a little uncomfortable now and
then, but it's nothing like,oh, we have no humidity. There
were a lot of things I wastold about Costa Rica that ended up that
you needed to prepare for that endedup not being true. The humidity except

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at the very end. Yeah,I don't know. The humidity was bad
at Allsquitos and no mosquitoes, Idon't I didn't get any mosquito. And
we learned about climate zones, rainforest, cloud forest, and then what the
beach desert? Yeah, yeah,it was going from one one side of
the country to the other was anexperience. And wasn't it interesting? It

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wasn't. It wasn't north and south. You know the west for us,
you know, you got northern Californiasouthern California, two different climates. East
and west doesn't change a ton.It's usually the altitude to change. Yeah.
For them, they have like aneast and west side that separates there
dry and wet and populated and nonpopulated. And you cross over this range

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of mountains and it's so funny thatyou're in this bus and you're driving and
all of a sudden you're on thedry side of a mountain, weedy,
dry grass, and then you willkeep driving and then you hop back onto
the wet side of the mountain andit's jungle straight to the road's edge.
Yeah, it's just so funny rightthere. It is east and west,

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it's not north and south. Sawa lot of animals, a ton of
animals. Yeah, that's one thingthat there was no lack of. What
was your favorite animal? I thinkright off the bed, I like the
white faced monkeys that we saw,and I like the caymans. A few
caymans that were swimming around there.We got like the sloth the best,

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and being able to see one climbdown out of a tree. Yeah.
You know the first morning that wewent on that little hike, John second
day there where they took us outso that we were walking down that little
alleyway that street and you look upand you just see a blob. You
don't know what it is. Butthen on the walk back he or she
started to move and I got avideo of that. It's a very slow

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movement. And but we should mentiontoo again that we were based at the
base of a volcano. Our resort. Second place we stayed in was an
active volcano that blew up in nineteensixty eight and wiped out eighty percent of
the population. They kept saying,I was not active, and it was
only fifty years ago that it wipedout the whole city and it was smoking

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to the other steam coming out ofthere. It's just stam, let's build
a resort. Right there, I'mtrying to think of what what town was
that? Uh for Tuna, uhlove for Right, That's that's the time
you're thinking, Yeah, right,that's what I was thinking of, right,
Yeah, because Bob and su Cranewho were with us living Yeah,

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uh, Fortuna, California. Yeah, Yeah, that was It was a
great trip and I liked I likedthe differences in the cloud forest versus the
rainforest. Yes, just I youalmost have to experience it to see.
Yes, the the ability to bewalking through just a mist where you know,

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the rainforest you know, obviously different, you know from the standpoint of
heavier droplets, a little bit morerivers running through it. The cloud was
just everything had moss growing on it, and it's what you kind of expect
it would be. Yeah. Theepiphytes in the trees were just done everywhere.
We were laughing. What was that? You get to hold onto the

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story? Okay, break time gotit? Okay, we were laughing.
Dot dot dot. We're going tocontinue the dot dot dots from Tiger when
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we have returned from that break.Those on Facebook Live. Any questions,
I mean, we've answered a lotof questions that we came prepared with.

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But whatever you want to know aboutCosta Rica and we touched on and
a lot of cotes coming up nextweek, right because in cold climates it's
Mother's Day started their spring. Yeah, when it's safe to put things out
and not worry about the frost.But prior to the break, Tiger,
we're going to continue your dot dotdot. We were so blown away by

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the bromeliads growing in trees that wewould call them a fifteen gallon a twenty
four inch box bromeliad. That's thesize of this bromeliad is just massive,
maybe four or five feet tall andwide. Vermeliad growing in a tree.
This is not in the ground.This is in a tree forty feet up

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in the air. There it ison a branch. Things seem to grow
in and amongst each other, andthey attached themselves and they wind around and
they're just I mean, we sawroots coming out and it just unbelievable.
And trees have whole other lives inthe sense of, you know, when
the tree goes dormant, some othervine or vermeiliad or something else is alive

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in it, and then the treecomes back to life during the time of
year, and maybe those things,you know, go dormant and they just
you look up and you don't knowwhere one thing starts and the other thing
ends. John, I have anew favorite palm tree and you know what
it is. Lipstick lipstick palm.Yeah, posted a couple of pictures.

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This palm freezes at fifty five degreesand needs a lot of humidity. You
won't see it most anywhere in theworld except Coasta, Rica is a huge
place for freezes. Might not bethe that's not a good term, is
it. No, it doesn't well, declines from peaked yeah, gets a
little peaked from yeah, and itjust just randomly there's a little bit of
red about what three quarters randomly,it's the crown shaft. To me,

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it looks random, It looks random, but the crown shaft is red,
right, the crown shaft is thread. Yeah, definitely, lipstick palm if
you get a chance to see one, is a site to be seen.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Butthey also like humidity, so if you're
in a dry area like San Diego, it's not going to be easy to
grow. And then another thing whichwe saw in day one at Doka,

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which is one of my favor trees, and they actually do grow here in
San Diego, but they look waybetter in tropical environments, was the rainbow
bark eucalyptus. Yeah, remember that, where you have this bark and you've
got greens and pinks and yellows andall kinds of shades as the bark peels
on the trunk. A little bitof shark truth as I recall the truth,

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So fun tree as well. Youknow, the surprise might be two
people who've never seen mangoes in thetropics. Oh my goodness, those trees
are gigan. Look at mangoes wayup there. Yeah, it was,
and they just grew everywhere everywhere andlearned yards. I learned that they're the

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biggest exporter of pineapple. They arenow that Hawaii, Yeah, no longer
exports pineapples. We get a tasteof their pineapple that river awesome, right,
we get the taste on the onthe river boat. I knew.
Favorite ice cream, by the way, is orange pineapple, orange and pineapple.
It's orange pineapple ice cream. Yeah, I'm still a coconut guy.

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You didn't try the orange piking apple, No, I didn't. You can
try coconut here. You need tofind somewhere that has orange pineapple ice cream.
In all these years, you neverhad it. I don't think so.
But you love doesn't that? Isn'tthat like a doll whip? Isn't
that? Or just pineapple? Well, it's similar, I think. But

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I think I know what to getget you for holidays and Christmas is and
birthdays? Just a case of icecream. Kevin points out the strangler fig
that we saw. That was thefirst time I've ever seen one. Yeah,
yeah, those are Those are interestingin the sense of seeing it take
over a tree and then having ithollowed out and all that underneath. It's

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funny Costa Rica. Discussing the triphere at the station with a few people.
They're, oh beautiful, I lovethe pictures, you guys, and
Garden America. And then I showedthem pictures of you know, the monkeys
and the Caymans and that aspect ofthe trip that I would never go to
a place like that. Bugs camein alligator. No, I didn't see
any bugs. Oh yeah, theyhad those giant cicada bugs. That tarantula

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we didn't see it, but rememberthey said it was there, yeah,
which they they're very shy tarantulas forthe most part. That's why we didn't
see any. What else, CostaRica is a dangerous place. It came
meaning like, yeah, it's It'sdefinitely not like, oh, you can
just walk down the street and youmight get attacked bikees. We had two

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quaddies on our property on the thirdhotel. I was lying in bed and
I looked at this thing, walkedby and it was a quaddy and went
outside. There was two of them. Halloween crabs were cool. Oh yeah,
yeah, oh, I know,huh all over the place. Isn't
it so funny? How far theyget away from the water. Oh my
gosh. They were in the mountains. In the mountains, Yes, I

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had a disappointment. One disappointment.Okay. My wife is in love with
the bohemia menander Oh which is isthat what she calls it? The pink
pink Bohemia. And our good friendSherry, who joined us on the trip,
gave me a seed pod, whichyou can't bring stuff back, so

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there wasn't anything I was going todo with it. But it, you
know, it ended up in mysuitcase. I think you dropped it away.
I think you dropped it dropped intomy suitcase when I was packing up,
but opened up and there were noseeds in it. No. Yeah,
you didn't check the seed pod tosee if there were seeds in the
pod. Huh No, no,aren't it. So I'm gonna have to

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order those? Yeah, I thinkso, Yeah, you can order those.
And I think it'll grow for you. You do, I do.
I think it'll grow. I don'tthink it'll live forever. I think it'll
grow for you. Though Terry mentionedthe vipers, Yes, we saw small
little people were getting wet. Youknow, that was cool. That was

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a good hike. I enjoyed thathike. Got to spend some quality time
with John a little bit off onthe side of the pathway there discussing the
flora and faun hone and I mentionedto you that the it was also merryweather
the whole time we were there.That that you did, did you weren't

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impressed then either look Sherry says,oh darn well, Sherry Cherry uh said
she got one good seat from her, so maybe she'll get it to go.
So, you know, I don'tknow if you guys remember the stats
that were given to us at thatnatured Oh you weren't there, but John

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in the sense of the other thingthat was really cool because when you look
up in trees in a jungle,like we said, there's so much that
we can see, right. Butwhat was really impressive too was being able
to see the different orchids, becauseyou're not going to see an orchid unless
it's in bloom. So you lookup in the trees, you would see
some in blooms, some not inbloom. But do you remember roughly the

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volume of orchids they felt they hadin the forest there, It was like
eight hundred varieties or something like aspecies. But they also didn't know how
many they really have, right,just like there's an extinct gold frog,
right, but they don't know.They haven't even explored half the country.

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Yeah, she was saying like,yeah, we don't even know what's in
this area yet. It hasn't beenyou know, reporter. It's like how
little we know about the ocean,you know, when it comes right down
to it. Same thing. Iwas just really impressed with the volume of
orchids, different varieties of orchids.And then there was this one that one
of our tour guides during the walk, and he talked about how it was

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pollinated and he remembered the bat andthe hit really quick and it flicks it
and then you see it Emit tooka little bit puff, the puff of
pollen. And though I thought itwas don't I thought it was a jade
vine. Okay, Yeah, Ithought I thought it was an orchid.
I think he said it was amacuna, okay. But it was just
interesting to see that this is theway this plant reproduces. And it took

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and he said, the bat's theonly one that doesn't. It's not a
butterfly, not a hummingbird. Andthey used their soar, they used their
sonar, yeah, to find itto find it right. You know.
One thing I remember was getting upin the morning going to take a shower
and it was open, uh likethe top of it was Okay, and

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you're talking about that, the hotelwith the plants inside the shower, Yeah,
I love that. And the birdsthat greeted you in the morning.
It was NonStop bird calls. Yeah, yeah, nights, but yeah,
four o'clock in the morning, there'sat least one bird ready to get up
in the start the day. Sawthe two cans. Yeah, that they're
you know what they're They're hard tospot. We saw them at that place

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where we made our own dinner,a little buffet, and then on the
bus heading east to whatever hotel wewere going to, on top of a
wire on somebody's house. Rick inIdaho wants to know what kind of edgies
they grew. Oh there, andyou got thirty seconds to tell Rick before
they break. Okay, Well,they grew basically everything to grow here except

(29:40):
cassava, which is a root cropthat they grew a lot of. They
use them. They use a lotof root crops over there. It was
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newsletter know this, but other listenersmay not know that today is World Naked
Gardening Day. Well is that's notcommon knowledge. I some people, you
know, you forget. You know, it's true, you're busy. The
next thing, it's Chris. Letme just say that I appreciated the way
you greeted me this morning. WhenI arrived at this I took a lot

(30:45):
of thought. John, Thank you. I've mentioned in the little article I
wrote that I would be celebrating workingwith my house plans. But I like
that leaf, the way that leafwere strategically across the picture. There's also
a link to the day in Ireland, a little video. Careful of what

(31:07):
you click. You can watch itunfolding in Ireland. Did you look at
the choice of words unfolding it's inIreland. It yeah, it's live live
from Ireland. Also, today's aBig Star Wars day, right the fourth

(31:29):
the fourth with you. Kevin sayshe discovered that pineapples are not fruit.
That's what they told us. They'renot fruit. Yep, okay, waiting
put the camera on. H yeah, come on, joh, well,
it's a technicality. It is atechnicality. It is said. It was

(31:53):
just like tomatoes are not a vegetable, they're fruit. They're fruit, and
pineapples are an aggregate fruit, justlike just like any seed, like berries,
like raspberries. And you know.Anyway, that pineapple was very good.
It was very good. They wesampled that on the river boat.

(32:14):
Yeah, when the probably the thetime, the whole trip was awesome,
but the time I disliked came closestto disliking and actually did dislike now that
I think of it was the kayakting. Oh yeah, yeah, I'm glad
we didn't do that. Yeah,I did not do. They're the only

(32:35):
one that you know what. Wekayaked in Hawaii and it was peaceful.
Birds were chirping. The burt thewhole time. My quads were hurting.
It was just horrible. But I'lltell you what, if he hadn't walk
five miles walk with John, he'sa good five mile water And they didn't
give you life best because they saidif you fall out of the boat,
just watch it. Don't hurt yourselfbecause like maybe two inches to stawatch that

(33:01):
you don't hurt your don't hit yourhead on the bottom. Well, there
were certain ways to get out aswe went towards the ocean, and then
we went at the time the tidewas coming in, so it was easier
to get back because it it roseanother six feet or something like that.
But when we got to the ocean, they had cut up watermelon, pineapple

(33:27):
and one other thing and that wasgood. So it was like all the
suffering may have been worth it becauseit was so good suffering. Also,
my wife's new favorite cookie is cocobana. It's kind of a cocoa. Where

(33:47):
was this that? Yeah, wherewas that cocobana? I bottom at the
last hotel we stayed at at thelittle shop that was around there. I
didn't know what they were, butthey were really good. That last hotel
we could have done three or fourdays there. I really enjoyed it,
the one along the beach. Alongthe beach. Yeah, in the water.
You went down to the water rightocean. That ocean is like like

(34:08):
a hot like a hot tub.There's no getting used to it. You're
used to it when you dip yourDid you go in the ocean? Yeah,
it's really warm. It was reallywarm. My wife didn't want to
go, and she usually loves theocean, and I asked her why and
she said she wasn't sure where thesewage was going into the ocean. It
could have been, I don't know. We ran into Bob and Sue Crane

(34:30):
down there all by themselves. Theydidn't see us at first, Dana and
myself. So I took a coupleof random pictures of them, and they
said, hey, stalker pictures,sneaky stalker pictures. Nice. I were
caught up on the comments and thequestions. I keep them coming. Whatever's
on your mind. I brought itin something for showing Tead and and Tiger.
You probably know this because you're youare in the current retail nursery business,

(34:54):
and I sometimes am not aware ofall the new breeding that's coming out.
But I was shocked when I sawthese Kufia. I think you were
taking it back, is what youwere. I was. But usually Kufia
hissopopolia is the Mexican heather, right, yep, Mexican little false heather.
They called some flowers, yeah,shiny leaf. And then they did some

(35:19):
breeding and they came up with somered ones. I think they called one
bat faced or something. Yep.I was gonna, you know, it's
funny, you said, taking aback, and I was like, there's
one that is called pet fast.Yeah, bad face. But even that
was impressive. You really had tostretch to see it. But then these
with these huge flowers and they're kindof drought tolerant. I forget what that
one is called, maybe plash orsomething, oh sweet talk, lavender splash,

(35:45):
lavender splash. Cufia procumbents is whatthey put the botanical name on it.
Way, and these new varieties aremore compact, definitely showier. I
mean this flowers, huge flowers.Yeah yeah, get a shot of that.
That how quickly. We can justturn a camera right around and the

(36:07):
technical advancements that we've made and thereyou go. Look at that. Yeah,
and then the other is I don'tknow the name of the other one,
but the other one is a dark, dark purple angelonia. That's an
angelonia. So yeah, it's anangelonia. Oh well, no, wonder
it looks so much different. Yeah, angelonia, another heat loving plant.

(36:31):
Right, No wonder, that's avery exotic kufia because it's an angelonia.
Right, but it's a large flowerfor an angelonia, isn't it. It's
no, and and it looks morelike I was busy working the camera.
But so the really cool thing aboutkuffia, we'll start back there. You
mentioned the different prieties. So butthe other thing is is it kufa ignia

(36:54):
where they call it cigar plant andthey're tubular flowers, right, they created
one what's a little bit of ashon the end. Yeah, that's why.
But they created one and they callit hummingbirds breakfast, lunch or dinner.
I don't know. It's called hummingbirdsmeal because it's such a massive bloomer

(37:19):
that with one plant you'll just seetons of hummingbirds picking off of it,
and then you know, they thesedifferent varieties of kufia. But these flowers
open up their tubular but they openup at the end and lots of colors,
lots of fun shapes, you know, because if you were to tell
me I want a coofia that getstwo feet tall, two feet wide,

(37:42):
there's a variety. But at thesame time, you were to tell me
you want a coffia that gets fivefeet tall, five feet wide, there's
a variety. And so you canhave a lot of fun as a filler
plant with this type of a break. All right, Speaking of that,
we got to talk about hummingbirds andbutter flies on the other side briefly from
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(38:05):
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(38:29):
Facebook Live thank you, and alot of people commenting, John, as
you mentioned, on the plants thatwe brought in, asking questions, beautiful
flowers, what is the care?How do you take if they're easy to
care care for? Extremely easy?The yeah is heat tolerant? Geno wants

(38:50):
to know if they're cold, they'rethey'll put up with a lot of things.
But not that. I mean they'rehardy though, you know what I
mean. The Kufia, the whatwas the one that we started off with,
that every the Mexican heather. Mexicanheather. That one is very hardy,
you know. But and it redoes it no? Not snow?
And does it does it recede ordoes it re root grow? I think

(39:13):
it recedes. I've never even heardthat term reroot grow? How do you
It's a useful term. I likeit. But I mean, you know
what I mean, like when somethingrepopulates from the roots, not necessarily from
a seed falling in, it's wecall them rerouters. Reuters. It's a
rerouter, not a do you nothingbut a re router? John. But

(39:35):
but then I really I really likeAngelonia because I like snap dragons. Sounds
like a girl's name, doesn't itAngelonia. I really like Angelonia. To
me, it sounds like a country. You want to go to Angelonia next
year. By the way, Carlawould like us to spell the names,
okay, I mean Kufia is cU p h e A that's the Cofia

(39:57):
the and then like we said,from there, there's a lot of varieties
Angelonia A and g E l On I A and is that your sentence
plays for the selling de competition.But I really like Angelonia because I like
snapdragons that spire kind of flower andit's a perennial that does it. So

(40:21):
it's kind of a similar look tothe flower spike of a larkspur delfinium snap
dragon. But they're hardy plants thatthose are all what we would describe more
as annuals, and the Angelonia givesyou that same look and a perennial.
Now. I will say though,the one thing I'm not a huge fan
of with the Angelonia is their dwarfcompact ones, because I think the point

(40:45):
of buying them is to have ataller, beautiful spire, and as you've
mentioned before, a lot of breedersare trying to grow the compact because they
ship well, they show well onthe nursery ground, they fit on the
shelf, and they've created these plantsthat max out at like a foot and
a half tall, and that's justnot as impressive to me. So pay

(41:05):
attention because you're gonna get inspired bya lie of tall angelonias. But if
you go to some stores you're gonnasee them. You think, oh,
this one grows tall, But it'sit's a compact variety. So what is
the height on what did you say? That purple Angelonia was called arch angle,
arch angel dark purple. Let mesee what it says as the height.

(41:27):
Yeah, it'll it'll stay on there. But Lisa was asking about redding
heat. Yes, they will takeany kind of heat when it comes to
flowers, Brian, some like ithot. Some do like it hot.
And these are two of the onesthat do like it. And that was
a good movie. It doesn't saythe height on the tag, Oh it

(41:49):
doesn't. Yeah. Maybe on theother side of the thing. The compact
one would do well in a pot. Yeah, of course, yes,
Veronica. They I mean, eventhe tall ones do well in pots.
See you know what, while wewere gone, I had my irrigation system
on, so that work for you. It worked well, everything was live

(42:12):
when I came home, but becauseeverything was damp. I was telling Tiger
that the day after we got home, I walked just one walk around the
house and came back with a onegallon can full of snails. Really unbelieva
in hundreds and hundreds of snails.And I don't smash them because it would

(42:35):
be a slimy mess around the house, So I just picked up the can
and dump them in the trash.Well, don't you like throw them as
far as you can into the neighbor'syard. No, that's not nice.
I didn't know that that was frownedupon. Fourteen inches is what that one
says. Tall. Yeah, whichdoesn't see that tall? No, because

(42:57):
it's almost that tall now it is, Yep, tall, must spread out
then you can see the side branchesgoing. Burpie is telling me six to
eight inch spread and ten to fourteenAnd that's the Angelonia Archangel blue bicolor.
I think if it's going to bethe arc Engel's arch Angle Angels series,

(43:19):
it's probably all the similar sizes.Well, that should be called Gabriel or
Michael, then, shouldn't it John, there might be others. It reminds
me of a rose. I plantedthis spring which is just coming into bloom
now, and it's came from Germanyand it's called gelber Engel Gilbert Gilbert Engel,

(43:40):
Yeah, Gelber with the G gelberEngel, And so I thought it
was named after a person. Andwhen Greg and Steve were visiting during the
auction, they were came over tomy house and Steve speaks fluent German pretty
much, so and he looks atthe tag and I said, yeah,
this is a new one for me, this Gelber Angle. He goes,

(44:02):
oh, yeah, yeah yellow Angel. I didn't realize so that that's what
it meant in German. Yellow.That's how they say yellow. Delver,
I guess yellow or something at butangle, I g e yell is angel.
Yeah that's funny. All right,let's take a little rest here breaching

(44:27):
up. See Lisa. Lisa throwsher snails at the fence or into the
street. I used to when Ilived in in on pepper Try, but
you know now it's just too many. So we were shocked though in Costa
Rica about snails because there is somuch foliage everywhere and we didn't see where.

(44:47):
I asked, and he said,they have them there, and they
you know they do. You know, you know what exists. One of
the people we were walking with pointedout a snail to me and it had
feathery antenna. Weird, Yeah,something like doctor Seuss. Yeah, something
like that. I imagine with thathumidity. I when you saw any snails,
they'd be huge. Yeah. Itlooked at you eye to eye,

(45:09):
right on top of the shell andwrite it down the block. Did it
have the classic European snail shell orwas it more of decolate snail? No,
it was more. It was muchsmaller than a brown snail, but
that classic shape. Yeah, wasjust the weird, weird antenna that came

(45:32):
out. Rick wants to know ifwe saw any roses in Costa Rica.
Virtually none. We saw a lotof roses. I don't know what you're
talking about. Every yard had roses, and any rose that we might have
seen was brought there. Oh yeah, they don't. Oh there's noses.

(45:54):
But anywhere you see roses, theywere brought there. True, true,
yeah, because we don't normally plantwild roses. But there was I think
I saw two houses that had rosesplanted by their fence. Yeah, but
that was about it. Virtually.No roses. But we did see hydrange

(46:15):
everywhere, Yes we did, butyou know what, it was planeted in
direct sunlight, and none that Isaw look very good, looked very healthy,
and they were just it looked likethey had just taken cuttings a lot
of times it just stuck them in. But they were growing, you know
what I mean. It was amazingthey had some of the coffee plantation.
I never realized how easy, welleasy in the sense that I thought you

(46:37):
could never do it to grow highdranges from cuttings, because if you go
into some even Albertson's, you know, they'll bring in these green hydranges that
you can't really buy anywhere, butyou could easily buy a bouquet, take
them home and root them. Justthat easy. Huh. Yeah, I'm

(47:01):
sure there's a little more involved,John, And yeah, there's a cafe
out there at Tiger for sure.Gina, what's enough. We talked about
the grass. What is she talkingabout? I don't know. Did you
talk about the grass? Grass inCosta Rica, like lawns or sugarcane they

(47:22):
call that grass. Now, I'mnot sure what she's referring to. Gina
explain that just a little bit further, but could be my brain cells break
in sixty not collecting. When weget back then, you know, we're
talking about the hydrangees and it kindof was interesting to see you can tell

(47:42):
the pH and soil by the flowersand they were all blue there, which
is what we try to do herein so the California. Yeah, that's
their natural pH Okay, break,time we get back. I want to
talk about a really cool plant thatthis is really my first year appreciate.
Don't forget that a really cool plant, John's first day to appreciate it.

(48:04):
Right, It was in did youknow? In case I forget, you
can remind me. And that's onthe other side. We're going to take
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(48:28):
you with your coming back to GA'squestions. Oh yeah, I wanted to
know if I talked about the grassand where I'm sitting I can't see it,
and that that's Brian slow plastic grassjust like something part of what John
brought in. Yeah, no,it it grows well though. It loves
lighting in here, and it lovesa lot of darkness. Yeah, a

(48:51):
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(49:12):
always good information in there. Anyway, I planted last year for the first
time, and this year's seats cameup everywhere. But orleya have you ever
grown Orleya? I don't know.It's called white fringe flower, and it
kind of looks like Queen Ann Slace. But Queen Ann Slace is weedy.

(49:37):
It is a perennial, but youknow, just grows wild. But this
or leaya spectacular and it gets tobe about I would say mine is waist
high right now. And the picturethat's in the newsletter was taken at my
yard right next to my house,and I'm just shocked at how many blooms.

(49:59):
It's hundreds and hundreds and hundreds ofblooms. It's hardy too. It
is meaning well, Queen Ann's lacewhen when you're giving that idea that people
say Queen ANNs lets. It's avery light, light plant, very delicate
to some degree, and Orley isa bit more thick or rigid as well,

(50:22):
So it's a very hearty plant,which kind of like you don't expect
from when being able to kind ofthrow it out from seed. And for
your area, that's got to begreat because you kind of need that fleshy,
tough plant. Yeah. And thereason I wanted to bring it up
is because it will take heat,so you can grow it in really hot
areas where Queen Anslece won't grow.You know, it likes mainly cooler temperatures.

(50:44):
But this would be great for youknow, arrangements and things like that.
As a matter of fact, Isent my daughter a picture of it
and she thought it was candy tuft. Yeah, I was going to say
some people think of it as candytouch or even sometimes like mya porum,
but it's much bigger than candy toughbecause candy tuft is lower, but does

(51:05):
give you the same look. Soanyway, or Lea is for Carla is
o r la ya. And didyou seed that you said you just threw
out seeds? Well, when welived in the trailer and we wanted,
you know, something to remind usthat someday we'll have a garden. I
bought a few plants for Annie's annualsokay, so they sent a forge pot

(51:27):
planted in the ground and it reallydid not do much, but it did
bloom, looked kind of cool.Was the first time I'd ever seen the
bloom, and it's seated. Inthe next year, some came up from
seed, and then this year Iour last fall, I should say,
I took all the plants and justshook the seed everywhere and it came up.

(51:49):
And it's just phenomenal, I thinkbecause it had all winter to start
that when the spring hit, I'dsay, and we had two wet winners,
which would probably really appreciate it aswell. It's been a full bloom
since February probably so from February toMay, in full bloom and it looks
to me like there's at least anothertwo months, maybe even more. But

(52:10):
it definitely a plant to look up. It'll fit in any kind of cutting
garden borders, and yeah, itlooks great white fringe flowers the commony.
It's funny you mentioned that it sparkedmy memory of something that I'm dealing with
in my yard right now. Youknow those plants that you plant and you're

(52:30):
like, I'm gonna be fine withthis receding throughout my yard, you know,
just like I don't mind if itspreads all over. I don't mind
if it spreads all over. Right, A sclepias. I have so much
as sclepias in my yard, thought, oh, yeah, because they turn
into giant bushes and the monarchs havenot come to eat them, so they're

(52:52):
just thriving right now, and soyou have to get rid of I've got
to like, yeah, and it'snot just you know, what John's describing
is that he could go and kindof hand pull them out if you didn't
want them. If you didn't wantthey're really easy to pull up. I've
let them develop into shrubs where I'mgonna have to use a shovel to dig

(53:13):
out these y sclepias now. Butyeah, they're fun. They're fun for
a minute, So much for theexperiment. But I don't mind if these
grow everywhere. Yeah, okay,Baronica wants to know what soil the green
hydranges need. I think they'll takeany type. Yeah, they don't.
They don't because it's because, likewe're saying, the reason is the flower

(53:37):
color. Green hydrangees are green nomatter what soil they're in. And hydrange
is just like a a soil thatkeeps the roots, you know, well
watered. They don't like well drainingsoil. Carla. Did you see Carla's
comment? John, I saw itjust pop up the latest comment. I
guess we missed that one back earlieron all Right, she said that there's

(53:59):
a Mary lou Heard tour. UhMary lou Heard owned was the Country Gardens?
Was that the name of it?I remember, I know the name
sounds familiar, but I don't talkedabout her before. Yeah, I was
gonna say, didn't we mention hertour last year? I feel yeah.

(54:22):
But if you go to Herd's hE R D S gardentour dot com,
you can find out all the information, which which she brings up. A
great point we wanted to mention duringthe show is that this is garden Tour
season. Now, Yes it is. We talked about Mother's Day and right
now everywhere is kicking off the gardentour this time of the year. Rather's

(54:44):
Day weekend, next week weekend.Yeah, it's coming up. The Missions
Garden Tour were you're allowed to gointo anybody's garden without notifying them. Yeah,
just walking to climb the fence andtake samples. Basically, that's that's
the beauty have a lemonade in theirbackbor exactly. You know. One thing
that we saw in Costa Rica thatwas not as nice as California were orange

(55:06):
trees. Oh my gosh, Yeah, you know what good call. Yeah,
they for all their fruit, forall their production citrus not great.
I mean they do. They didhave a lot of fields of it,
and I'm sure they probably grow agood amount, but the trees did not
look great. And and then John, We've talked about this before, but

(55:29):
they don't turn orange, you know, remember, well, not as oranges
in California. Right, that gotkind of a greenish, the greenish look
to it because of the humidity.So remember that truck that we were behind
a truck one day there was twoof them, one one ahead of the
other, and we were like,those apples are the oranges? They're kind

(55:50):
of green. Did we ever determinewhat I don't know what they were?
Yeah, oranges. I don't knowif they had apples there they grow an
the one there now doesn't get cold. I'm not sure about in the mountains,
yeah, or I don't even know. On the volcanoes yeah, yeah,
I don't think they could grow that. It's probably not cold. But
the soil is very good because becausea lot of it's volcanic soil in those

(56:15):
areas. Yeah, okay, we'regonna take a break. Two more segments
yet to come here Bistalk Radio,Facebook Live. Keep the questions comments coming
as we are here till the veryend. We decided to stay for the
entire show today, which is goodnews for all of us. So this
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(56:37):
from the break. This is GardenAmerica. Were just joining us, and
we have two more segments. Thisis the longer segment and then a short
segment right after this one. Iwas just thinking, I was trying to
think of where Mary Lou Hurd's nurserywas, and it was Herd's Country Gardens
was the name of the nursery,and it was in Westminster. And I

(57:00):
wrote an article by l a Yeah, yeah, Los Angeles. I wrote
an article about Mary Lou Hurd forthe Garden Compass magazine a few years ago.
And she was really an amazing woman, and I met her a couple
times and she was as nice ascould be. But we we did point
out how she was the one whoreally brought clematis to southern California because prior

(57:23):
to that it people used to thinkthey want to grow here, and they
do fine. Matter of fact,the one I have on the side of
my house is doing better than theBogan villa. Have you ever been up
to her location? Yes? Okay, so yeah, And it's about what
four blocks maybe a little bit lessthan four blocks big, and there's a

(57:44):
portion of it that's the home inthe nursery, but then they have like
botanical garden like you walk through likeon a trail. I haven't been there
since she died, so I don'tknow if they've changed it. Okay,
I don't know, but yeah,they have like botanical guardians, if like
the San Diego Botanical Garden where there'slike a trail and you can walk through,
and as John mentioned, some ofthe clematists are growing and you know

(58:07):
what would be that time of yearright now for the clematists to be in
bloom just starting to right, so, you know, right now would be
an excellent time of year to startseeing going there and seeing that because the
varieties that you know, she hasand brought in there and they allow them
to grow up, you know,all over the place. So it's really

(58:27):
neat. Uh. Paula says.The Fallbrook Garden Club has a good plant
and flower sale next weekend, sothat'd be Mother's Day weekend. Yeah,
so don't I will be home forthat weekend, so you're you gonna sell
some avocados. I need a surpriseavocado. I got a customer looking for
one, really, sir, prizeBrian, Yes, that's what it's called.

(58:55):
Do you know the unique feature featureof surprise the tree or the avocado
itself, the avocado itself, thesize, the size of what, well,
I think we all know. Thefeature of surprise is that it will
not turn brown like regular when youleave him on the You mean if it

(59:22):
wasn't when you make qua know howit turns brown? Absolutely? Yeah,
very quickly too. Yeah, thatdoesn't happen with surprise. So you think
that it's good to eat even thoughit's not. Yeah, any any time
after you you slice it, doesit still have that same oxidized you know,
as funny as you can still eatthe avocado when it turns brown.

(59:43):
Oh yeah, you just people likeme to scrape that off a little bit.
It's the presentation. Yeah, that'swhat It's just like a banana when
it's got brown, just mushy,you can still eat it. I brought
a good banana for you. Yeah. I knew that was going to lead
to that. Yeah, John said, actually this was a very good banana.
It was I'm learning, I'm learninghis tastes. It was Lilah's leaving

(01:00:04):
to be a greeter at the BernardoGardeners Tour Bernardo Gardeners. Yeah. Wow.
All right. So there's a lotgoing on and Sherry has done a
little let let her fingers do thewalking through the internet. Uh, huh.
She said that Gabriella Plants has BohemiaMenandra in four inch pots, oh,

(01:00:25):
for sixteen ninety nine in the ship. So when I get home,
Gabriel's going to place an order.When I'm going to place an order,
I did find that Fairchild Gardens hadthem for forty dollars in a four inch
And you go on there on theirwebsite, you can order whatever you want
and then you put in your zipcode and it won't let you go any

(01:00:46):
further because obviously they can't shift showCalifornia. Yeah, but why don't they
tell you that ahead at the beginningbefore you waste your time? Yeah?
You get all excited, right andthen it freezes up. On did you
ship your roses yet? You werecoming home to ship roses? I shipped

(01:01:07):
two boxes yesterday. I was itwas I was too tired when I got
home. Yeah, yeah, whattime did you get home? Finally,
eleven o'clock that's when you normally goto bed. No, I go to
bed much earlier because we had lastthe last year we did before Coasta Rica.

(01:01:28):
You went to bed at eleven thirtyand you were hurting. Yeah,
that's that's see. You know mysleep was off while we were there,
meaning I didn't have a problem.I like going to bed early, so
it was only one hour time different. Yeah, but yeah, I felt
the same thing I felt. Andthe weird thing about it was I would
sleep in more there than I normallydo, and like you're saying, I

(01:01:52):
should have been waking up earlier,but it was. It was weird.
It was weird. Well, wehad to get up early every single day
and that threw me off a littlebit because if you breakfast usually started what
at six thirty, six thirty upand Adam six thirty, bags outed seven
forty five whatever, but for usit was five thirty. Yeah, because

(01:02:15):
they're one hour ahead of us.So yeah, just that one hour was
a little weird. By the way, the tour was, I think they
mentioned that it was a somewhat strenuoustour. But one of the nice things
that I thought they did was theymade allowances for anyone who didn't want to
do the strenuous part. I wouldsay most of the tour, probably sixty

(01:02:40):
to seventy percent of the tour anyonecould do. Yeah. And then there
were a couple areas where there werelong walks, like on this the bridges
and things. That was a longhalf hours, yeah, two and a
half hour walk. But right nearthere was the butterfly and humming birds right
that you could, you know,sit there and wait for people to come

(01:03:02):
back and just sit in amongst thebutterflies, humming birds. That was really
neat. And then and then thethe ziplining was quite a walk, quite
an experience, right, tiger,Oh yeah, so much fun. Such
an amazing zipline experience. Thirteen differentstations, you said, yeah, close
to it, crossed a canyon,ziplined over a canyon. It was we

(01:03:24):
were so high and then got sofar about them that by the way,
the Tarzan swing where they you justswing over a canyon. Yeah, you
got to jump off, just straightdown. So much fun. Now you
did a Tarzan yell. Of courseTarzan swing on purpose? Right, Yeah?

(01:03:45):
Did people get it? I don'tknow. Not the people from France.
The people from France, they lookedat me weird. They'd be like,
what is this guy doing I jumpingoff or being pushed up? I
screamed on the front little girl.But you know, I don't think it
was like a little girl, becauseeverybody thought I was doing a Tarzan yell,

(01:04:10):
be funny, okay, And thenI stopped on the way back because
it was just fine, right,So it must have sounded like, oh,
you know, he's having fun.Now I understand that you just made
the weight. Yeah, they tellyou, They tell you you can weigh
two hundred pounds, and I Iotherwise keep going back, and I have
a ride about two hundred pounds andit's and I think it's because it's not

(01:04:30):
so much that the rope can't carryyou. It's that when you're swinging like
a pendulum, somebody that's heavy,they can't stop. They just keep they
just keep swinging. But these littlegirls, they just stopped and just grabbed
their shoe and hold on to it. Well, it took a while to
stop, right because I think Ithat guy grabbed my leg like four times

(01:04:50):
exactly before he could get me toslow down. Yeah, it's funny.
I don't think we're going to recreatethe Tarzan yell right now in studio.
You can over modulate, I'm sureexactly. That's his way of letting us
know he's watching. Thank you.He did say pretty please, He did
say pretty please. You know whatlet out of the quest do it during
the break. Yeah, we'll shutthe MIC's off and do it. Yeah,

(01:05:13):
exactly. No, that was fun. That was fun. Rick wants
to know if I have a dripirrigation system for my roses. I do,
oh on one side. Yeah,but and you know we're there in
the ground. Everything's dying over therewhere they're in the ground. Yeah,
where they're in the ground, Wellrun it longer. Are they not water?
I don't know how did you learnhow to set the timer on it

(01:05:38):
yet? He was a savvy onit for a while there. I can
now turn it on and turn itoff. Yeah, well that's progress.
You know what you should do,though, is just turn on the valve,
set a timer in your house fortwo or three hours, and then
just go out and turn it offmanually then, you know, I mean,
I you know, if you're notgonna you know, do the program

(01:05:59):
the clock, because that's probably howlong it needs to run for. It
is probably a couple hours. See, I would love it be changing it
every time. No, no,no, like once every two or three
days. Yeah, Tiger showed mehow to find where that was. It
had something to do with counting thewires. No, I did you did

(01:06:20):
just one, two, three,third red wire. The green wires don't
cut the red Yeah, it waslike to see this. This is probably
the third station the coast of thedrift. Okay, did you not tell
me that? I think we're gonnatake one more segment coming up for BizTalk

(01:06:40):
Radio Facebook Live. Be with uto the very end. John has a
surprise. You can make something up, John, anyway, I gonna take
a break for Bistalk Radio Facebook Live. Brian Main, John Magnasco Tiger Pella
Fox. Here your weekend on GardenAmerica. Welcome back to the show.
If you're just joining us, youare just in time for the very last
segment here on Garden America. Suresegment of the show. We're happy to

(01:07:01):
have you in BIS Talk Radio FacebookLive as that we wrap things up slowly
but surely. John Tiger, youknow there got my I mean, I
get jogged up to do you knowif it's a how do you know if
it's a frog or a horse?I can never determine that. It's the
first time I used the button.I got to get used to doing that.

(01:07:24):
But there's a lot of hellibores thatare being bred right now with different
colored leaves and someone sent, uh, one of the plant breeding companies sent
some samples to my house and I'mgoing to bring those in next week and
maybe we can talk about those.Someone else was asking if we've started to

(01:07:45):
discuss our next trip yet. Wewe kind of kind of a little bit.
We're testing the waters. Tiger hasan idea that he's going to discuss
and see about the practicality of it. But right now we're thinking of maybe
Greenland, Iceland and then coming backinto Scotland, Irean something like that.

(01:08:10):
That's a lot of plain, alot of lands, a lot lot of
lands, right, a lot oflands. Yeah, we'll see and also
too suggestions from our listeners, ourviewers and maybe some ideas either way.
Yeah. Yeah. Carlos said thatmaybe the frog was from Costa Rica.
Probably definitely. There's a lot offrogs there. They got that one picture
that what was that poisoned dark frog, the red one on that leaf.

(01:08:33):
Those were tiny, very tiny.I got a really big close up and
that was the first picture I showedsomebody, and I showed the next picture
where it was just you know,the way it really was, the size
zoomed out. That's the same frog. I would say they're virtually the size
of your thumb nail, right,you don't look it. That reminds me.

(01:08:54):
I wanted to do an article forthe newsletter about the relationship between the
frogs and the ants in the tree. Oh right, the poison dar frog
yeah, and the ants and thenthe tree yep. Yeah, about how
that the frog gets its poison fromthe ants that it eats, which used

(01:09:15):
their poison to protect the tree fromfungus and diseases and other insects. Amazing
how that works. Yeah, I'vegot to get it straight though. Going
to kiss a couple of frogs figuredit out? Yeah, Prince Charming,
come on. So anyway, thatwas Kim in Tucson that was asking about
the tour. Yeah, that mightbe a good trip for someone from Tucson,

(01:09:41):
right, somebody, because we're todo it doing it in the summer,
so you get out of two Sunin the summer and go to Greenland
and Iceland. What's that tiger?Uh? One of our friends over there,
speaking of Kim from Tucson, sinceshe's listening, a friend of ours
from Furlom text me about Sevanno rowersin Tucson, and so they so I

(01:10:03):
don't know Kim is familiar with him, But supposedly there are a Tucson nursery
and we're gonna trying to have themon the program here pretty soon. Do
we have any guests playing that fornext week? We do. We're we're
gonna be talking some of the gardenwalk stuff. Oh yeah, perfect.
But yeah, so Savannah. Idon't know, Kim, have you ever

(01:10:24):
been to Savannah Nursery? C Iv a n O. But suppose it's
a really neat little nursery there inTucson. You mentioned when you get home
today, John back outside. Oh, yeah, the weeds grew so much
while I was gone, so I'vegotta gotta pull weeds. I've not caught

(01:10:45):
a gopher since we got back,and a gopher the bed right by the
bathroom there, Yeah, where youplanted the where you planted the strawberry tree.
Uh. Everything that was planted inthat bed was with a jackhammer,
right yeah, Oh, tough asnails. And then there's a walk in

(01:11:05):
a driveway around that bed, sothere's no way to get in it.
Yeah, there was a gopher inthere. How how do they dig through
that soil? You know? Idon't know. They have little teeny jackhammers
themselves. But why would they wouldlike if I was It's a lot of
effort for what. Yeah, exactly. You know, if I was a

(01:11:27):
gopher and I was going around diggingfor things and trying to find food,
there's a lot easier areas to digin the path of least resistance. Yeah,
well maybe unless it's what were theygoing for, John, the strawberry
tree. I don't know if theywould stubery. It came up right by.

(01:11:49):
Uh my wife has a rose that'sher favorite. Oh goodness, So
it's right there and right next toan aulstra area. Maybe it's just worth
it to the gopher, Like,you know what, I really want this?
There you go, John, Youforget about all these flowers and you
know hips roses. You need agopher proof bread rose. Can you can

(01:12:10):
you combine to rose with a euphorbiaso they would poison the gopher. Exactly,
That would be a good idea.Just see if you can cross See
if you can cross euphorbia and lookexactly euphor because most all euphobias are are
poisonous, and I mean not enoughto kill people. But if you just
had a little bit of euphobia inthat rose that when the gophers bit into

(01:12:34):
it, they're like, we can'teat this anymore. Yeah. I was
just thinking of a philosophical question ifthat's morally okay to do? No,
No, I was thinking, doyou think they'll be gophers in heaven?

(01:12:55):
What needs your rating? I don'tknow. You know, sometimes I wantonder
if God created every animal, orif the devil threw a few and the
like mosquitos and gophers. We wouldWhen we were on the Costa Rica trip,
one of our tour members showed methis meme and it was they were
travel memes, and it was uh, Noah's Arc right and it was like

(01:13:21):
these two lions and they're like,oh, how was the cruise And they
were like, oh, you know, it was a little bit bumpy,
but the buffet was delicious. Itwas the lions coming off the off of
the arc right right. And thatthat's I told you that joke that I
saw years ago, the one panelcartoon, same thing. Oh was it?
Nos Well Nor's Ark is going byright, sailing by whatever and there's

(01:13:45):
two dinosaurs on the shore And theysaid, oh crap, was that today?
Hey, that's gonna do it forthe Garden America Show, the Post
Halloween Halloween, the Post Coast ofRicas Show, The Poison Dark Poison Pece
People, Poisoned Dart Frog. Marilynwants now, yes it can Yeah,
good right. We don't know ifit kills them, but it can poison

(01:14:09):
him. Maybe that's something to discussnext look into Hey, thank you for
joining us and putting up with ourmadness. Our return show, post show
from Coasta Rica. Thank you somuch. Enjoy the rest of your weekend.
We are back. Guns are blazingnext weekend here on Guard in America.
Brian Maine, John Magnasco Tiger Pellafox. Be safe, We'll do it
again next week or right here onGuard in America. Take care,

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