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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I like, we got to bring Sean Callahan in here
(00:02):
for the Husker buzz now that the phones are working
ring Sean Callahan.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
Hey, good morning. I got the day off yesterday. Thank
you guys.
Speaker 1 (00:12):
Ah, well, I know you were trying to get in,
but it just wouldn't happen, so we we didn't get
the chance to chat with you about done dot Dowdell
taking off? Right? Is this a shakedown he might come
back or is this for good?
Speaker 2 (00:23):
Do you think I think he attempted, probably to get
more from Nebraska Nebraskat My understanding is Nebraska. Did you
know he got a significant increase of his NIL agreement
this for next year. I mean, remember he came to
Nebraska with limited playing time at Oregon and they kind
of helped got him going with his career, and it
(00:45):
appeared all things were good for him to return. And
then here's what's going on everywhere. You know, there's agents
and other people around the country. They kind of shake
the market down themselves because you know, jo'bell said, these
agents are getting ten, fifteen to twenty percent of these deals,
and you know, and I don't know if that's the
case in him, but this is in general what's going on.
And you know, an NFL agent in comparison gets three
(01:08):
percent of a deal. So college football agents for NIL,
it's very lucrative industry right now, and you're seeing agents
really jack up rates and numbers for players out there.
And I think dal Dell the market on him. I
don't know what it is, but you know clearly he
hurt a very high number, and you know, I think
(01:29):
he's pursuing that number now. And you know, wouldn't be
surprising if he's had another major program. He's gone to
Oregon and Nebraska, and it wouldn't surprise me if you
know the rumors Michigan's a team to watch with him
moving forward, and you know, we'll we'll see. And you know,
if a team needs a player and has the money
and that's all they need, they can they can pay
more money and say, hey, we need this one position.
(01:49):
We're going to pay one hundred and fifty two hundred
thousand dollars more to get it.
Speaker 3 (01:53):
Now, let me ask you something about the NIL portal
and the NIL construct now, Sean, because what we see
online is probably not as accurate as it actually is.
But Micah Hudson from Texas Tech got big play on
social media yesterday because of his alleged NIL deal. Now
tell me if any of this is possibly true. At
(02:15):
Texas Tech, seven hundred thousand minimum wire upfront for a
one year deal to sign immediately separate NIL deal for
three cars for family members, personal driver with a Cadillac
SUV for Micah from spring practice through the end of
the year. Family hotel and travel arrangements paid each game
with up to ten members to have travel tickets and
(02:35):
costs paid for, and medical injury time off and playing
after injury determined only by Micah and his family. Is
any of that in the NIL construct today?
Speaker 2 (02:46):
Yeah, I think some of these things are true. I
mean I've heard of some schools working into an NIL
agreement or collectives, I should say, not schools. You know,
a ten thousand dollars Delta Airlines card for travel. You
know there's given card. It's easier to do it that way. Definitely, vehicles.
I mean I know one five star guy that evidently
got two vehicles, you know, last year. I'm getting this
(03:08):
information from direct people that cover those programs. So it's
it's not just like you know internet chatter. I mean,
you know in several hundred. You know, one Huscar player
and I won't say I talked to somebody affiliated close
to this player, and he's going to get five hundred
and fifty thousand dollars at his new school he left
Nebraska for. So yeah, the money I think would startle
(03:29):
everybody what it's become. And you know, not that long
ago in twenty twenty two when all this started coming
out in IL for the very first time, or twenty
twenty one when it started, you know, there was no money.
Everyone was kind of learning how this works. And now
these schools have the REV share dollars that are going
to start, which are fourteen to fifteen million dollars at
(03:50):
most of the big schools for football, plus the collective.
So we're in this weird place right now where these
programs almost have more money than some of the lower
teams in Major League Baseball to pay college football roster.
Speaker 3 (04:01):
Well, if you look at Micah Hudson, that if that
is his deal, and let's presume it is, because, as
Sean says, he talks to people who cover these guys.
He doesn't just deal with people in their boxer shorts
and their mom's basement working the red Sea Scrolls in Ralston.
If that's true, that is an unsustainable model for a kid, Seano.
There's no way that the college football can survive with
(04:23):
nil deals like that.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
Here's what's happening. A guy might get a deal like
that to get him there, and then all of a
sudden the terms change or things change, and that's the
ugly side of this. I think a lot of kids
think that that's the deal they're going to get, and
then the writing. When they get it in writing, things could
be different, and the next year is definite. It could
(04:45):
be different even more if they don't produce, and then
they're gone. And we're seeing guys leave schools. You know
what's going on at USC Lincoln Riley is losing everybody
right now, four and five star guys that were freshman
high level dudes. What's going on there with their nil
in the numbers there? It's it's yeah, it's it's hard
(05:06):
for a fan, I think, to really get into this
right now, because just when you thought, hey, Tante dall though,
I like this guy all right, and he's gone, you know,
And I think that's the hard thing for Husker fans
to get too emotionally attached now to a player because
you know, Ja, Barry Butler, you walked, Teddy's coming back,
all of a sudden, he's gone, you know. And so
some of these things are just they just don't make
(05:27):
a lot of sense as you look at it. But
that's college football right now everywhere.
Speaker 3 (05:31):
Yeah, you just can't have it. You can't have deals
like that for Michael Hudson for one hundred and five guys. Uh,
there's just no way. The NFL has a collective bargaining agreement.
There is a wage scale and a pay scale for positions,
and unless we find a way to collectively bargain with
college athletes, there is no end of this. And unfortunately,
I think it's going to destroy the game. I don't
(05:53):
know that college football has a future. College football and
basketball have a future if that is what it is.
And I know that sounds down, but it's just not
a model that you can sustain year and a year
out with eighteen, nineteen year old, twenty year old guys.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
No the money too, it's kept pretty quiet. I mean,
we don't really know anything as publicly. I think if
we learned everything on some of the numbers these guys
are getting and whatnot. People are being displored. I mean
it's a lot more than you know, you can even imagine.
I mean when now the players are making more than
the coaches where you know, I don't think anybody could
(06:29):
have dreamed we'd be.
Speaker 3 (06:30):
In this place, which makes them puts them in charge,
and that's just an unsustainable model. All right, So Nebraska
is twenty three guys in the portal that leads the
Big Ten Conference. But as you forecast and will continue to,
this will be an ongoing through the off season process
where guys leave the program. But why would Nebraska have
(06:51):
so many more than everybody else at this stage?
Speaker 2 (06:55):
Yeah, I don't know how many of those are walk on.
I mean you got to be careful. I mean, I
think fifteen sixteen of those are probably scholarship guys, and
then seven eight of them probably walk I'd have to
do the head the full count because that is little misleading.
As Nebraska's got the largest roster and they got more
walk on, but they have to get down to one
hundred and five players. I mean, that's really what it
(07:15):
comes down to. One hundred and fifty players on this
team or one forty five whatever it finished out at
they've got to get down to one hundred and five. Well,
they added twenty high school players and they're going to
take fifteen transfers. So and they only had thirty players
walk at senior Day. Say, you know, the numbers have
to get to one oh five as well.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
So what do they did? Just tell them you got
to leave pretty much.
Speaker 2 (07:36):
I mean, I think they forced the attrition with the
rev share dollars and they might tell a guy, you know,
I think the two Belvy West receivers pretty much were
told they're not you know, they don't really have a
role for the future from what they've seen, and they're
both looking and right now. Both those young men don't
have much going from what I've gathered in the portal.
Speaker 3 (07:54):
Yea mc morris, as you reported, was a very highly
recruited receiver out of here.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
Avon Hall was too. But yeah, the humbling part about
that is, I mean, these are two guys that are
probably talking the lower division and one or Division two
schools now, and they were four star guys a year ago.
So real life can come at you fast for some
of these kids, says a year before they are being
wined and Dina's top recruits and now they're talking to
Division two.
Speaker 1 (08:18):
Programs Sex fifty four on News Radio eleven and Kfabach
talking with our Husker insider Sean Callahan. How about these
two that came in and are coming in out of
the portal two Nebraska, Yeah, Nebraska.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
He added a punter, and I know that always excites you.
Gary Salmeier, Jack McCallister. He was ranked the fourth highest
punter on Profolile Focus in the Big Ten Conference, so
he's higher ranked than Brian Bushini. Washington is moving to
an AUSSI style punter, so it's this mutual for him
to leave. He's a three year starter there. He's also
the holder, so they've added a holder and a punter.
(08:52):
Kevin Gaelic also come in as a long snapper, so
they've really revamped special teams. But then Jalen works East
Tennessee State. This first team All Conference six two sixty
five defensive lineman was very productive this year, and I
think that's the model. Now, you got two ways of
doing it. In the portal. You try to find the
(09:14):
four and five star guy that doesn't work out at
school A or B, and a lot of times those
guys don't work out for you either same thing that
happened at that school happens for you, or sometimes they
really work out and do well, or you now go
the Kurt Signetti model, and that's become the real trend.
You find the lower level guys that are productive players
in the non power five, whether it's FCS Group of
(09:36):
five or whatever, and you bring them in. And this
is what Jalen George is. We're seeing Nebraska bringing the corner.
Andrew Marshall from Idaho played for Dan Jackson and Omaha
native who's the defensive coordinator there. Now that he's going
into Mexico with our head coach Jason Eck Marshall winning
the portal. Marshall's a big time FCS player. That's more
(09:57):
the model, and I think a lot of coaches prefer
that model because are getting players with proven stat that
are playmakers.
Speaker 3 (10:03):
Well, you're getting guys that are not only proven sean,
but you're getting guys that are two other intangibles. One,
they are older. You look at the Indiana kids, they
were all twenty two to twenty three that came from
winning programs, so they know what it takes to win
ball games. And the second thing you're getting is hunger.
If you go get a guy who's at a power
(10:25):
for program and he's not playing on the field, there's
a reason. Meanwhile, go to a mid major like Curtis Rourke,
like Max Brosmer from Minnesota. This guy wants the big time.
This guy is craving the chance to play in the
Big Ten Conference. And I got to tell you that's
something I don't think you can buy.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
Hey, Sean, thanks extended the coverage this morning, and he's
with us every morning. Our Husker Insider
I like, we got to bring Sean Callahan in here
(00:02):
for the Husker buzz now that the phones are working
ring Sean Callahan.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
Hey, good morning. I got the day off yesterday. Thank
you guys.
Speaker 1 (00:12):
Ah, well, I know you were trying to get in,
but it just wouldn't happen, so we we didn't get
the chance to chat with you about done dot Dowdell
taking off? Right? Is this a shakedown he might come
back or is this for good?
Speaker 2 (00:23):
Do you think I think he attempted, probably to get
more from Nebraska Nebraskat My understanding is Nebraska. Did you
know he got a significant increase of his NIL agreement
this for next year. I mean, remember he came to
Nebraska with limited playing time at Oregon and they kind
of helped got him going with his career, and it
(00:45):
appeared all things were good for him to return. And
then here's what's going on everywhere. You know, there's agents
and other people around the country. They kind of shake
the market down themselves because you know, jo'bell said, these
agents are getting ten, fifteen to twenty percent of these deals,
and you know, and I don't know if that's the
case in him, but this is in general what's going on.
And you know, an NFL agent in comparison gets three
(01:08):
percent of a deal. So college football agents for NIL,
it's very lucrative industry right now, and you're seeing agents
really jack up rates and numbers for players out there.
And I think dal Dell the market on him. I
don't know what it is, but you know clearly he
hurt a very high number, and you know, I think
(01:29):
he's pursuing that number now. And you know, wouldn't be
surprising if he's had another major program. He's gone to
Oregon and Nebraska, and it wouldn't surprise me if you
know the rumors Michigan's a team to watch with him
moving forward, and you know, we'll we'll see. And you know,
if a team needs a player and has the money
and that's all they need, they can they can pay
more money and say, hey, we need this one position.
(01:49):
We're going to pay one hundred and fifty two hundred
thousand dollars more to get it.
Speaker 3 (01:53):
Now, let me ask you something about the NIL portal
and the NIL construct now, Sean, because what we see
online is probably not as accurate as it actually is.
But Micah Hudson from Texas Tech got big play on
social media yesterday because of his alleged NIL deal. Now
tell me if any of this is possibly true. At
(02:15):
Texas Tech, seven hundred thousand minimum wire upfront for a
one year deal to sign immediately separate NIL deal for
three cars for family members, personal driver with a Cadillac
SUV for Micah from spring practice through the end of
the year. Family hotel and travel arrangements paid each game
with up to ten members to have travel tickets and
(02:35):
costs paid for, and medical injury time off and playing
after injury determined only by Micah and his family. Is
any of that in the NIL construct today?
Speaker 2 (02:46):
Yeah, I think some of these things are true. I
mean I've heard of some schools working into an NIL
agreement or collectives, I should say, not schools. You know,
a ten thousand dollars Delta Airlines card for travel. You
know there's given card. It's easier to do it that way. Definitely, vehicles.
I mean I know one five star guy that evidently
got two vehicles, you know, last year. I'm getting this
(03:08):
information from direct people that cover those programs. So it's
it's not just like you know internet chatter. I mean,
you know in several hundred. You know, one Huscar player
and I won't say I talked to somebody affiliated close
to this player, and he's going to get five hundred
and fifty thousand dollars at his new school he left
Nebraska for. So yeah, the money I think would startle
(03:29):
everybody what it's become. And you know, not that long
ago in twenty twenty two when all this started coming
out in IL for the very first time, or twenty
twenty one when it started, you know, there was no money.
Everyone was kind of learning how this works. And now
these schools have the REV share dollars that are going
to start, which are fourteen to fifteen million dollars at
(03:50):
most of the big schools for football, plus the collective.
So we're in this weird place right now where these
programs almost have more money than some of the lower
teams in Major League Baseball to pay college football roster.
Speaker 3 (04:01):
Well, if you look at Micah Hudson, that if that
is his deal, and let's presume it is, because, as
Sean says, he talks to people who cover these guys.
He doesn't just deal with people in their boxer shorts
and their mom's basement working the red Sea Scrolls in Ralston.
If that's true, that is an unsustainable model for a kid, Seano.
There's no way that the college football can survive with
(04:23):
nil deals like that.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
Here's what's happening. A guy might get a deal like
that to get him there, and then all of a
sudden the terms change or things change, and that's the
ugly side of this. I think a lot of kids
think that that's the deal they're going to get, and
then the writing. When they get it in writing, things could
be different, and the next year is definite. It could
(04:45):
be different even more if they don't produce, and then
they're gone. And we're seeing guys leave schools. You know
what's going on at USC Lincoln Riley is losing everybody
right now, four and five star guys that were freshman
high level dudes. What's going on there with their nil
in the numbers there? It's it's yeah, it's it's hard
(05:06):
for a fan, I think, to really get into this
right now, because just when you thought, hey, Tante dall though,
I like this guy all right, and he's gone, you know,
And I think that's the hard thing for Husker fans
to get too emotionally attached now to a player because
you know, Ja, Barry Butler, you walked, Teddy's coming back,
all of a sudden, he's gone, you know. And so
some of these things are just they just don't make
(05:27):
a lot of sense as you look at it. But
that's college football right now everywhere.
Speaker 3 (05:31):
Yeah, you just can't have it. You can't have deals
like that for Michael Hudson for one hundred and five guys. Uh,
there's just no way. The NFL has a collective bargaining agreement.
There is a wage scale and a pay scale for positions,
and unless we find a way to collectively bargain with
college athletes, there is no end of this. And unfortunately,
I think it's going to destroy the game. I don't
(05:53):
know that college football has a future. College football and
basketball have a future if that is what it is.
And I know that sounds down, but it's just not
a model that you can sustain year and a year
out with eighteen, nineteen year old, twenty year old guys.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
No the money too, it's kept pretty quiet. I mean,
we don't really know anything as publicly. I think if
we learned everything on some of the numbers these guys
are getting and whatnot. People are being displored. I mean
it's a lot more than you know, you can even imagine.
I mean when now the players are making more than
the coaches where you know, I don't think anybody could
(06:29):
have dreamed we'd be.
Speaker 3 (06:30):
In this place, which makes them puts them in charge,
and that's just an unsustainable model. All right, So Nebraska
is twenty three guys in the portal that leads the
Big Ten Conference. But as you forecast and will continue to,
this will be an ongoing through the off season process
where guys leave the program. But why would Nebraska have
(06:51):
so many more than everybody else at this stage?
Speaker 2 (06:55):
Yeah, I don't know how many of those are walk on.
I mean you got to be careful. I mean, I
think fifteen sixteen of those are probably scholarship guys, and
then seven eight of them probably walk I'd have to
do the head the full count because that is little misleading.
As Nebraska's got the largest roster and they got more
walk on, but they have to get down to one
hundred and five players. I mean, that's really what it
(07:15):
comes down to. One hundred and fifty players on this
team or one forty five whatever it finished out at
they've got to get down to one hundred and five. Well,
they added twenty high school players and they're going to
take fifteen transfers. So and they only had thirty players
walk at senior Day. Say, you know, the numbers have
to get to one oh five as well.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
So what do they did? Just tell them you got
to leave pretty much.
Speaker 2 (07:36):
I mean, I think they forced the attrition with the
rev share dollars and they might tell a guy, you know,
I think the two Belvy West receivers pretty much were
told they're not you know, they don't really have a
role for the future from what they've seen, and they're
both looking and right now. Both those young men don't
have much going from what I've gathered in the portal.
Speaker 3 (07:54):
Yea mc morris, as you reported, was a very highly
recruited receiver out of here.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
Avon Hall was too. But yeah, the humbling part about
that is, I mean, these are two guys that are
probably talking the lower division and one or Division two
schools now, and they were four star guys a year ago.
So real life can come at you fast for some
of these kids, says a year before they are being
wined and Dina's top recruits and now they're talking to
Division two.
Speaker 1 (08:18):
Programs Sex fifty four on News Radio eleven and Kfabach
talking with our Husker insider Sean Callahan. How about these
two that came in and are coming in out of
the portal two Nebraska, Yeah, Nebraska.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
He added a punter, and I know that always excites you.
Gary Salmeier, Jack McCallister. He was ranked the fourth highest
punter on Profolile Focus in the Big Ten Conference, so
he's higher ranked than Brian Bushini. Washington is moving to
an AUSSI style punter, so it's this mutual for him
to leave. He's a three year starter there. He's also
the holder, so they've added a holder and a punter.
(08:52):
Kevin Gaelic also come in as a long snapper, so
they've really revamped special teams. But then Jalen works East
Tennessee State. This first team All Conference six two sixty
five defensive lineman was very productive this year, and I
think that's the model. Now, you got two ways of
doing it. In the portal. You try to find the
(09:14):
four and five star guy that doesn't work out at
school A or B, and a lot of times those
guys don't work out for you either same thing that
happened at that school happens for you, or sometimes they
really work out and do well, or you now go
the Kurt Signetti model, and that's become the real trend.
You find the lower level guys that are productive players
in the non power five, whether it's FCS Group of
(09:36):
five or whatever, and you bring them in. And this
is what Jalen George is. We're seeing Nebraska bringing the corner.
Andrew Marshall from Idaho played for Dan Jackson and Omaha
native who's the defensive coordinator there. Now that he's going
into Mexico with our head coach Jason Eck Marshall winning
the portal. Marshall's a big time FCS player. That's more
(09:57):
the model, and I think a lot of coaches prefer
that model because are getting players with proven stat that
are playmakers.
Speaker 3 (10:03):
Well, you're getting guys that are not only proven sean,
but you're getting guys that are two other intangibles. One,
they are older. You look at the Indiana kids, they
were all twenty two to twenty three that came from
winning programs, so they know what it takes to win
ball games. And the second thing you're getting is hunger.
If you go get a guy who's at a power
(10:25):
for program and he's not playing on the field, there's
a reason. Meanwhile, go to a mid major like Curtis Rourke,
like Max Brosmer from Minnesota. This guy wants the big time.
This guy is craving the chance to play in the
Big Ten Conference. And I got to tell you that's
something I don't think you can buy.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
Hey, Sean, thanks extended the coverage this morning, and he's
with us every morning. Our Husker Insider
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