8-24-25 - Field Reports on the EHD Disease Outbreak

Tonight, Jim and Scott share field reports on the EHD disease outbreak, mast crop production, food plot suggestions and took calls and answered questions from the audience.

Episode Transcript

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Speaker 2 (01:02):
Here tonight calling you know we're going to take calls
from you. Both Field Reports and conditions that you've been
observing or that you want to share with the audience,
or questions you may have. And it's a broad brush shows,
driven a lot by what the weather has done, because

(01:23):
it's been crazy and it's gotten even crazier here as
we rolled into late summer with the draft conditions. I'm
sure a lot of you are wearing that there's been
a significant amount of ehd hemorrhagic disease reported in the
deer herd in a lot of the Kentucky counties, and
Scott and I are going to talk to you about that.

(01:44):
We've both been out working food plots and checking the
nut crop. We're going to give you some mass reports.
We're going to talk about what the deer doing and
uh squirrel season which has been very odd up until now,
and we'll dive into that. We're also going to try
to give you some fish reports, but most importantly, we

(02:05):
would like to hear from you today, so to do that,
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So if you've got information about what's going on or

(02:26):
questions for us tonight. Those are the numbers. This is
again an open line show and we'd enjoy your observations
in our comments. I'm gonna go straight to break here
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friends at SMI. This Drapp situation rid in Western got
really critical and it's bad and a lot of the
of the state. And even though we had tons of
rain early this summer, now a sudden and you and
I talked about this a lot of times. When you

(03:08):
get to late summer, there's a draft where here it
is and EHD is on the march it's here.

Speaker 3 (03:16):
And unfortunately, we were getting through the middle part of
summer with our rains continuing, and I had high hopes
that that would be the case, because it's very typical
of EHD to show its face after having really wet
springs and then getting into a dry section of the summer.

(03:37):
Because of the images which is basically in that a
lot of folks know them as no Sims and I
think too, with the amount of heat that's been around,
and especially in the late part of July and early August,
a lot of folks were reserved about getting out into
the woods and getting some things done. We had some

(03:58):
humidity and some that would make anybody you know, think
about getting out and about doing some work. And now
that folks are getting closer into deer season and preparing
duff plots and farmers are getting to the fields to
start to fall harvest, we're starting to get down windows
some dead deer and traveling in and around the waterways,

(04:22):
it's easy to find some dead deer and there he
has hardest hit right now. Jim seemed to be Ohio County,
Butler County, Muhlenberg County, all in the areas that I
spend the most part of.

Speaker 4 (04:36):
My time in.

Speaker 3 (04:37):
And it's really sad at the same point, not only
from all the hard work of what landowners do to manage.

Speaker 4 (04:47):
Their herd, but it'll tug at your heart a little bit.

Speaker 3 (04:50):
To see these young faunds out walking around by themselves,
because we're seeing a lot of funds, even more so
than typical years that are that are now orphaned because
they've lost lost a parent most likely to EHD.

Speaker 2 (05:07):
Yeah, and there's kind of clustered areas. You describe some
of the other counties where there's been reports in a
easy fashion. I know something in the penny row. What
else can we share with the audience about that.

Speaker 3 (05:24):
Well, what we're seeing is it's not just concentrated in
the western part of the state. We're seeing pockets of
where the EHD has come up and been reported And
a lot of things can be seen on the Kentucky
Department of Fishing Wildlife website And actually had somebody reach

(05:47):
out from the department to ask me to share this gym,
and that is that if you're seeing any deer or
any wildlife in general that are sick or dead, that
you can go on and the fund and call the
department that numbers one eight hundred eight five eight one
five four nine during the working days Monday through Friday

(06:09):
eight to four thirty Eastern time. But there's also a
website that allows folks to report any type of sick
or dead wildlife to regional biologists and even follow it
as individual categories that can be done for everything from birds.

Speaker 4 (06:29):
To bats to other wildlife.

Speaker 3 (06:30):
It's just not for deer, because our biologists are trying
to get ahead of this. But what we're seeing primarily
is that somewhere along the way the southern section of
the state has been hit most. You start over around
Pulaski County, Wayne County and then continue across the western

(06:52):
Kentucky getting into the cracking engraves.

Speaker 4 (06:55):
It seems like.

Speaker 3 (06:56):
That lower third of the state is being hardest hit.
But we are starting to get some reports coming in now,
especially around Scott County up to Boone County. That little
factor up there in and around the Frankfurt areas is
starting to get more reports. And I imagine is the
dry weather continues and the forecast stays what looks like

(07:19):
long term drought, and folks are getting into the field
to not only squirrel hunt, but get things prepared for
the upcoming dove seasons and deer hunting. We're going to
see more and more reports of deer being turned in.

Speaker 2 (07:34):
Well. The important thing and the easy thing to tell
people is check around your water source. Is because the
vast majority of them die in near water. Because that
fever that hits them, they course instinctively try to go
to water to select their thurst and get cooled. That's
where they usually end up expiring. So we want to
talk about that certainly in a way that again if

(07:56):
you find them called the department. There's a link actually
to that site on Jim Straighter Outdoors on Facebook. I
boasted that today, so folks weren't hit the link, it'll
take it an easy rap to get there. Let's talk
a little bit about squirrel season. One of the weirdest
I've ever seen. Normally by this time, pig nuts. You know,

(08:20):
you can't hardly find a pignut tree with nuts that
had been cut. And similar with shagbark shadbard a little later,
but it's almost non existed, even down in your area,
which is usually a week ahead of us.

Speaker 3 (08:36):
Well, if you take and travel up and down the roadways,
any I've noticed from Etown headed towards the western end
of the state that you got Sue mac and some
red maples that have already started to show some color.
Me and you have talked off and on about how
a lot of cottonwood trees and a lot of the
poplars have really started to show stress. And we started

(09:00):
noticing all this because both of us tend to get
out and squirrel hunt as a national holiday in Kentucky.
I mean early squirrel season is the start of the
hunting season, and I have not been hunting myself personally,
and I know a lot of other folks haven't been either,
And it's not been due to the lack of scouting.
It's been due to the lack of sign. And what

(09:22):
I'm running into is the cuttings that I'm finding are
really coming around cattle pastures and well mowed areas and
what your pig nut and shagbark kickorys are at. But
there's not just that pile of shavings at the base
of these trees gym and there's not a lot of
activity down in and along the river bottoms, which is

(09:46):
really surprising for me, especially down through Pond River and
starting to get up against the Green River. Normally, you
can find pretty good hunting this time of year, even
if you haven't scouted a whole lot, just because of
the good old noise of that cutting that's going on
from the squirrels getting into a big grove of fresh mass,
and that's not to be found being out and about

(10:09):
getting stands ready for friends coming in to hunt. Set
con trail cameras working on plots doing some fishing. I'm
not hearing those squirrels cutting early in the morning and
late in the evenings.

Speaker 4 (10:20):
And to be.

Speaker 3 (10:21):
Honest, even with the drought, I'm not seeing a whole
lot of squirrel activity even amongst the bare banks of
the rivers and the ponds like normals. So it's kind
of got me throwing a red flag up for a
lot of different reasons. And probably the biggest reason is
the fact that there are plenty of printing, there's plenty

(10:42):
of walnuts, and why I don't expect them to bend
the walnuts yet. I've never seen squirrels late this late
into the season to find those first few hickories that
are right for the picking, if you know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (10:56):
Yes, sir, I sure do. I mean that's the way
I've been up here. I've scattered several properties, you know,
in anticipation are having a bang up hunt, and it
just was a non event. And so it's just odd.
Let's talk about mass in general. Like you mentioned, the
walnut in many places is really heavy up in this

(11:16):
part of the state. The trees that make nuts, they're
really heavily laden. The wild cherry is very abundant. The
hickory and pignut have nuts, but they're just real late maturing,
which is odd to me, especially given the fact they

(11:37):
had everything in the world they needed early in the
season to said a good nut and to have good
root support everything that goes with it. But we'll see
as we go along. Oaks are just like folks tend
to be. Some are heavy and some aren't. It's one
of those years where a lot of factors are going

(11:59):
to play into it, and we'll know more about the
mass crop later. But I'm curious what our listeners are
seeing on masks in their area that you know, whether
their observations are mirroring ours.

Speaker 4 (12:14):
Yep, I know.

Speaker 3 (12:15):
I come in on two wheels tonight to jump on radio.
I've been out getting ready for a lot of different
things because there's a lot of different seasons that hit
at once come September. And I know that the acorn
crop in general, red and white oak is very scattered
and it's very inconsistent, and that's across multiple counties. Getting

(12:39):
a little bit better report from my friends that are
over towards the Lexington area. The soft mass is what's
got me kind of excited, and that's not going to
carry our wildlife through the toughest parts of the year.

Speaker 4 (12:53):
And that's why mass is so important to me.

Speaker 3 (12:56):
It's because of what it means to all of our
critters and our species, especially if we have a tough
winter that ever comes in. That mass crop is everything
to me as far as a woodsman, and it's everything
to our wildlife, and it's important to stay on.

Speaker 4 (13:14):
Top of it because we've got to.

Speaker 3 (13:16):
Remember that not all of these trees are gonna show
signs early. And sometimes I've even been caught off guard
where that mass may be really well developed at the
top canopy of the tree and it's not easy to
see even with binoculars on that lower half. But man,
what a persimmon crop we're going to have this year.
If all goes well. It's typical this time of year.

(13:38):
They're just a hair later, I would say, maybe two
weeks at most. They're starting to drop their abundance of
extra fruit, which is really common in a lot of
your good per simmons that are loaded up with mass.
But you could see from that picture I sent you today, Jim,

(13:58):
I've got some per simmons that they got a lot
of meat in them, and they've got a lot of
lot of green in them too, so it should hit
about prime once this weather starts to turn a little
bit to where if folks like bow hunting in that
time of year where the leaves are changing colors, it
looks like our percentage are going to be turning and

(14:18):
hitting just a little bit later than average.

Speaker 2 (14:20):
Two yes, sir, I think that's going to be the case,
And like you, I am seeing an abundance of them
in all the places I've scattered. I always keep my
eye on perms because all kind of critics love pers
but man, when they're when they're really going on deer,
you can hardly get a better spot if it's an

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isolated grover.

Speaker 4 (14:43):
We're on food sources.

Speaker 3 (14:44):
I want to talk about some other things I've been observing,
and that is seeing a lot of leaf hoppers, and
I'm seeing a lot of grasshoppers, which is really important
for our turkeys. I'm seeing a tremendous amount of seed
that is being made from all of the areas that
haven't been mowed that we had a lot of that

(15:06):
rain early in the year, vegetation was able to get
up good and strong and everything. You know, I know
a lot of people don't believe and don't like johnsngrass,
and people don't like ragweed and iron weed and all
these things. But when you look at the big picture
of all this, sometimes what we like and what wildlife
likes is.

Speaker 4 (15:26):
Two different stories.

Speaker 3 (15:28):
And we're seeing what looks to be probably a record
for the amount of seed that can be on the
ground if folks can hold off from their mowing like
we've been trying to promote for the last year, and
let that go to head and fully develop to the
point where it dries out and the winds and the

(15:50):
natural downward movement as that plant begins to droop. So
much of that ground surface area for our small game
and our songbirds is so dependent on those seedheads.

Speaker 4 (16:01):
Amongst what folks call the weeds.

Speaker 3 (16:04):
But those things have a tremendous amount of energy and
they pack a big punch. And it's just not for
our wildlife, it's with us right now. It plays a
huge row and the migration of birds, and for folks
that do get in and do some waterfowl hunting, don't
overlook a good flooded area late in the season up
and along through the river areas and the low basin areas.

(16:26):
When you've got weeds that get some water in them,
those ducks will capitalize on that as much or more
so than a cornfield, Yes, sir.

Speaker 2 (16:35):
And to your point about this not doing the mowing
if you can, it also provides unbelievably important cover for
the young critters. That the survival of the young rabbit.
It's the turkey poles, you know. It's an understory that
they can use to navigate and feed in where they're
not as vulnerable to hawks, now, houts and all that

(16:58):
stuff put among the menu. So that's another big, big
situation there. We'll talk about this at a little more
length after the break, but some of the big news
is about the ripening of the food crops, especially in
the western part of the state.

Speaker 4 (17:17):
Yeah, we've got just I mean megaspeed.

Speaker 3 (17:23):
Drying process going on with our corn, and of course
our soybeans are starting to break down. Some of that's
due just to the age and the maturity of the plant.

Speaker 4 (17:35):
But man, that drought when it hit, it.

Speaker 3 (17:38):
Hit, and a lot of these roots were pretty shallow
into the soil because of all the early rains that
we had, and those roots didn't have to stretch and
go very far, and it backfared on those plants this year.
And when you look at what's going on, especially around
the Bowling Green area, it's not about ready to get started.

(18:00):
Rain harvest is full speed ahead. Many folks have been
shelling corn now for a week.

Speaker 2 (18:06):
Uh.

Speaker 4 (18:06):
I just talked to Drew.

Speaker 3 (18:07):
Snyder early this morning over in Franklin, Kentucky. I know
he's getting his combine ready all around that Todd County,
Logan County, Simpson County area, Christian County. You're gonna if
you're coming in to do some early season bow hunting,
especially traveling from out of state, you're gonna be surprised
with how much corn has dried out and what that's

(18:28):
gonna mean for the deer having a food source in
a betting area. And these soybeans, if you don't have
a late planet bean what's known as a second double crop,
you better check it out or ask the farmer because
they're they're losing their lease and they're starting to to
foliate quick.

Speaker 2 (18:43):
Jim got to go and break here and you open
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Speaker 3 (19:24):
Yeah, I think you're having some tech issues there, Jim.
I hope that you asked me about what's coming up
with the opener. With archery season in Kentucky, folks need
to start making some plans because as we get so
excited watching these trail cameras all summer and we do
the work to get our bait sites set up and

(19:47):
we try to put in our food plots, a lot
of folks aren't going to have food plots to hunt
because of the fact that what established perennials they have
have been hit so hard by this heat and dry
weather that they've gone into a dormant stage. But September
the seventh, we're going to be facing a full moon,

(20:07):
and if folks don't have a blind or a stand
or a tree picked out the saddle hunt out of
or whatever in and around the water source for the opener.

Speaker 4 (20:19):
I would, and I would be ready for some.

Speaker 3 (20:22):
Pretty tough hunting for the Kentucky Archery opener this year,
because the deer should be If all goes is like
past years, most of your deer are probably going to
be out of velvet. The dry weather should even promote
that even more. And then you've got the full moon
that will keep those bucks up on their feet and

(20:43):
a couple of nights of the temperature dropping.

Speaker 4 (20:45):
It never hurts to be ready for some middle of
the day activity.

Speaker 3 (20:50):
And the cool weather this week has proved that deer
have been up on their feet a little bit more
in the daylight if you've been out and glassing or
watching your trail cameras. But times, Jim, I think folks
overlook ones, and I know myself, I've put into the
work to get a stand set, or get a blind
put in an area, or picked out just the right tree,

(21:11):
only just the day of season opening or right before
it rain comes, and it kind of rains on my
parade literally as far as capitalizing on water. But that
doesn't seem to be the case for this year's opening weekend.

Speaker 2 (21:25):
Knowing the forecast for like the next ten days, there's
no rain.

Speaker 3 (21:30):
No rain, yep, and that puts us in a really
bad spot with trying to get our food plots developed.
You know, the heat in the drought has put this
EHD on us. And now we've got a lot of
folks that are really trying to get dove fields prepped
for those final steps and we're dealing with a lot

(21:51):
of dust, and it's it's a perfect case scenario in
so many ways when it comes to having.

Speaker 4 (21:58):
That ground, Sir, it's ready for that seed to drop on.

Speaker 3 (22:01):
I'd much rather have some drier conditions than i would
wet conditions when it comes to my dove fields. But
we've got to take in consideration that mother Nature has
been stagnant now for a little while, and her plants
and her crutters need some some water. I mean, that's
the ultimate part of survival of something that they've got

(22:22):
to have. And I know that there's a whole lot
of folks that are chopping at the bit to get
out there and do some food plotting. And the folks
that jumped on and early, they're they're looking at a
lot of plants that are so stressed that they've actually
gotten to the point now, Jim, where you and I
both know they're not gonna make it.

Speaker 4 (22:38):
And a lot of these plots are gonna have to
be reseeded.

Speaker 2 (22:41):
Yeah, they are. And this is gonna be one of
those years where it's gonna be a tough decision to make.
I've got several plots that are in that you know,
are they gonna make it or are they not? And
because we're getting ready to be dried and what have you,
I'm just gonna hold the bullets, see for a little
bit what happens, and then go to an alternate, maybe

(23:04):
type of a winter food. You can always do winter
wheat and cereal, righte grass late and certainly we'll hopefully
have some moisture at some point where folks can break
the ground. That ground right now, as th old farmers
used to say, as hard as flint. I mean, it's
really in a bad shape right now. All across the state.

(23:25):
Even areas that have hads brain recently are hard. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (23:30):
And if folks find themselves backed into a corner with
your food plots, I know that a lot of you
out there have been calling and asking. You've got a
lot of clovers that you're trying to get established, and
you're trying to get those blends in with.

Speaker 4 (23:45):
A lot of yourbraskas.

Speaker 3 (23:46):
We are not to the point yet where all hope
is lost, but we are starting to get into those
final days to where the maturity that a lot of
those annuals will give you will not make it up
up to the point where you're going to get maximum
yields because we're going to be hitting at first frost.
And this is where Jim and I have really tried

(24:07):
to help you all over the years with talking about
the importance of your cereal grains, the cereal rye and
your winter whek, even blending it with some oats can
really help out. And we've got to remember too that
when this ground gets hard like it is and moisture
is very limited, it's awesome to have those products at

(24:30):
your disposal to go out there because it doesn't take
a ton of work to get out there and lightly
disks the ground. And as long as you've got the
suspension and you've got the drive to do it, it
makes it phenomenal to get out there and benefit from
the cereal grain. And this is where a rotary tiller

(24:52):
can really come into play too. If you've got the
ability to get out there and get your vegetation mold
and get it down. Sure if you are seeing where
there's some green growth left on that, go ahead and
get your burn down done, get your herbicide taking care of.
You've got plenty of time you can. I've sold winter

(25:13):
week and cereal rye all the way up until the
first week in November. And while it doesn't benefit me
or the deers or otherwildlife that much for this season,
it does really turn on and it's Sarah waiting for
you in the spring. And don't short clover out. Clover
Seed can stay in the ground for a while dormant.

(25:35):
What we want to make sure of is that you're
all are not out there getting your seed put on
the ground or in the ground, and it's getting a
quick pop up rain. Then you get a germination and
you don't have enough rain to sustain plant life. And
what happens is what so many folks have had happened
in the late July early August plenties, and that is

(25:55):
that they got germinated. They've got those coddle leadings up
out of the ground and their little roots just couldn't
take it, and they're torched. Gym there there fried more
than a than a tighter and a cast iron skillet.

Speaker 2 (26:07):
Right now, that's a great analogy, and unfortunately I'm hearing
a lot of that. I know you are too, so
that's something we wanted to pass along. I'm gonna go
to break here, folks. Remember we have open lines tonight.
If you've got observations about what we're talking about or questions,
will certainly be glad to hand them anyway, we know how.

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we're doing open lines tonight. Numbers are five seven one
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the line. Now who we got here? Okay, we're having

(27:20):
some kind of issues tonight. I apologized. I don't know
what's going on, but uh is it? Bill from Shepherdsville. Hey, Bill,
can you hear me?

Speaker 5 (27:36):
Yes?

Speaker 2 (27:37):
I can't.

Speaker 5 (27:37):
Can you hear me?

Speaker 2 (27:39):
Yes, sir? I'm sorry we'd have some kind of phone
situations at tonight.

Speaker 4 (27:44):
Go ahead, sir, Yeah.

Speaker 5 (27:46):
I wanted to ask about the chronic waste conditions. To understand,
I generally hunt in Hardin County, have a friend of
mine who has a farm there, and I understand that
if we take a deer there with chronic waste, or
any deer there, we have to leave the bones. Is
that true?

Speaker 3 (28:04):
Not necessarily what you've got going on in your CWD
zones is It depends on how you're going to transport
the deer. So Kentucky is set up where our CWD
surveillance zones have it to where that animal can be
moved as long as you do not cross into a

(28:25):
county that is not part of the CWD surveillance zone,
if that makes sense to you. So, for example, I
know when I used to hunt there in Harden, I
couldn't go back to Odham County where I come.

Speaker 4 (28:39):
From and be legal. So it will be your.

Speaker 3 (28:42):
Responsibility to either get that animal completely deboned to where
you don't have any of that spinal column.

Speaker 4 (28:51):
No, brain matter, et.

Speaker 3 (28:53):
Cetera that is going to be part of the deer
where that could possibly help pass along the pry ons
and spread it. So you'll just need to make sure
that you know your route and know what you're going
to do. And the easiest thing for you to do
is to, yes, most definitely debone it there on site
if you know how to do that, and then you

(29:15):
can transport your meat where you need to.

Speaker 4 (29:18):
Should I bury the bones, Well, that's just a debate,
you know.

Speaker 3 (29:23):
It depends on who you listen to, and to be
honest with you, I don't think the department is given
any type of recommendation to do that, and it's just
one of those things that the less that you can
transport that deer and move that carcass, not only the
Kentucky Department of Fish, in my life, but most of
all the state agencies believe that that's the best way

(29:46):
to let it be. But no, there's no legal requirement
for you to dig a hole and bury the bones,
so you're safe there.

Speaker 5 (29:54):
Definitely applies to me because I'll be bringing it back
to Boyd County and we're.

Speaker 4 (29:57):
Not on the zone as far as I know, and
you know where most people make.

Speaker 3 (30:03):
Their mistake is they think because they cape that animal out,
especially on a buck, that they're going to get mounted.
They'll do it like a traditional shoulder mount. And a
lot of times folks will make that cut right there
behind that front leg and they'll peel that hide up
and they'll transport the head and the cap with everything

(30:24):
being and tack. And that's where folks are breaking the law.
There's two things that you can do there. Number one
is learn how to skull cap your own animals and
completely take the hide off. Or number two, before you
have a successful hunt, put in some time, energy and

(30:44):
effort to write down a few taxidermists in the area
that will either do that for you or you can
actually just utilize for them being your taxidermist for that
particular maunt.

Speaker 5 (30:56):
Well, I hunt generally for my grandkids. They like the
deer meat, and so I will I'll be I take dose.
I don't fool with the bucks, and well, for the
very reason there's the dog on many doughs. I have
those in my front yard all the time. I have
three acres and my apple trees out there, and I
have a fig tree. And then they have loved that

(31:18):
tree this year.

Speaker 4 (31:19):
Yes, just just out of curiosity.

Speaker 3 (31:22):
Do you plan on taking those young hunters out for
the September special CWD gun season this year?

Speaker 4 (31:29):
In September?

Speaker 5 (31:31):
You know, I haven't considered it yet. It's what day
is that is? Is it a week?

Speaker 3 (31:36):
Yeah, it's it's going to be on a Saturday and Sunday.
That's c w D antler this only no no antlers.
Of course, button bucks are not gonna you know, count
We hope that folks will use their binoculars and optics
and leave those little guys out there. But September, the
twenty seventh and the twenty eighth will be your c

(31:56):
w D surveillance zone dates this year in the state
of Kentucky, and only those counties that are in the
CWD surveillance zones will be open for a modern firearm
antlerless only deer hunt. And for all the archery hunters
out there and crossbow hunters, remember, if you're in one

(32:16):
of those counties, you cannot legally harvest a buck with
archery equipment that weekend. And everybody's got to be an
orange again. So Jim and I are both kind of
on the on the other side of that being a
good date or a good time and and it's been
a big interest to us to see if if folks

(32:37):
are going to be partaking in that this year.

Speaker 2 (32:39):
Bill, I hope that's got it for you. We got
another caller here, Joe Ye from Henry County.

Speaker 6 (32:44):
Hey, Joe, Hey, how you doing Jim.

Speaker 2 (32:48):
Don't just find sir, hope you're doing well, doing good,
Just kind of quick question.

Speaker 6 (32:54):
You haven't mentioned turkey or anything, and I just have
to see, do you know. I drive through her County
quite a bit. I feel like I'm seeing more turkey
and Poults and everything else. This morning I had to
wait in the road for a fifteen turkey to cross.

Speaker 2 (33:08):
You know, that's an excellent observation. I'm glad you shared
that because in many of the areas where they've been
kind of held back, it looks like there's a really
good rebound this year. And I think a lot of
it's due the fact that because of the rain and
the weather, they weren't able to get in the hayfields,

(33:29):
and tons and tons of turkey nests are destroyed in
those hay fields every year, and you know, God bless them.
The farmers got to do what has got to do.
So it was a situation where even though sometimes you
worry about the rain killing the Poults, that does not
appear to be the case because there's a lot of

(33:52):
lake Poults out there as well.

Speaker 5 (33:56):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (33:56):
I know we had a big you know, back in
April with a flood we had on the Kentucky River
and everything was was worse i've seen out there. It
doesn't seem to have phased them too much.

Speaker 2 (34:08):
Well that's a good thing. What had you been seeing
the past couple of years in that area.

Speaker 6 (34:14):
It's just it's fewer than I'm seeing this year. It's just, uh,
you know, I'm not really I'm not actually a turkey hunter.
I just happened to like the wildlife. I do deer
hunts a few other things, but uh, just driving in
and out of Henry County every day just to seem
just seems to me, just from my my small little
world of observation, it seems like there was just quite
a few more out there this year.

Speaker 3 (34:34):
And more point, Joe, how was the cicada population there
this summer.

Speaker 2 (34:38):
For you all?

Speaker 6 (34:40):
It's pretty heavy.

Speaker 2 (34:42):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (34:42):
That that's that's been our best friend, both in southern
Indiana and and the parts of Kentucky that that they've
been in high numbers, that we're seeing a definite correlation
between pope survival rates and and and those cicadas.

Speaker 2 (34:58):
That makes sense, all right, Joe, We'll appreciate you very much,
and I appreciate your observation. I'm sure there's other people
that have something similar, because I can tell you in
my travels, I'm seeing more polps in a lot of
places where they were pretty darn scarce last year or two.
And thank God for that.

Speaker 6 (35:20):
You appreciate it, Mike Loveless to y'all.

Speaker 2 (35:24):
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doing open lines tonight. We would love to hear from
you the numbers to reach us or five seven one
eighty four eighty four or eight hundred four four four
eighty four eighty four. And we've got Jamie on a
hold from down in Mammoth Cave Country. Hey Jamie, how
you doing? Hey, guys, that's going, it's going okay. We've

(36:31):
had a few glitchers tonight, but we're working through it. Yeah.

Speaker 7 (36:36):
I had to call a couple of times.

Speaker 5 (36:37):
Get through up.

Speaker 7 (36:39):
I've been listening show. Sounds like y'all got some interesting
things going on.

Speaker 4 (36:44):
Yes, we were going off the deer down your way.

Speaker 7 (36:49):
Well right now, I've got several deer that's disappeared on me.

Speaker 5 (36:53):
Uh.

Speaker 7 (36:54):
I don't know if it's the dry weather, and they've
left for some water. I got some ponds and stuff there,
and I've been trying to keep.

Speaker 2 (37:00):
Eye on them.

Speaker 7 (37:00):
I'm kind of worried about the HD a little, and
then so I don't And acrons are starting to fall
a little, not hard. I think it may be just
some of these damn poor rains that we've had and
some wind. I knocking you out, and so I'm definitely
helping some of HD. What do you guys think, Well, well,
it's out there right now.

Speaker 3 (37:21):
These these deer are just going through such a tobacco
with their hormones, and so many different things are playing
havoc on them, between food sources changing that they don't
want to change because they're being harvested. And then of
course they're drying out, pallibilities going down. A lot of

(37:42):
folks are getting out in the woods and putting out
corn piles. I've always noticed this time of year that
my deer start disappearing, and I think it's cause there's
a few more yellow nuggets on the ground.

Speaker 4 (37:52):
But Fami, you're a big deer killer.

Speaker 3 (37:54):
I've known you for a long time, and you've killed
them early and you've killed them late in the seas.
And I mean, personally, I just think that the deer
somewhere around about the last two weeks of August really
start getting a little bit on the funky side. And
I know that a lot of my friends that are

(38:15):
down in Tennessee getting ready to climb up in a
tree for the last set to this evening of their
early velvet season. That you know, there's a lot of
deer that we're on camera every day in regular and
they've killed a lot of good deer in velvet in
Tennessee and they get a little bit earlier start than
we do in Kentucky. But even those jokers kind of

(38:35):
played the Hoodini on a lot of those hunters this weekend.
And I just think between people getting out and about
and the akrons and the water and the hormones, I
just think it's a really tough time of year to
keep deer on a summer pattern. But my question to you,
Jamie is when do you think most of the velvet's
gonna come off? And how soon do you think the
deer will kind of be back on a feed pattern

(38:58):
once they should that velvet.

Speaker 7 (38:59):
This year, well, I'm thinking that they're probably going to
lose velvet early this year. You're gonna have a lot
of stress from this drive weather we had late and
so I'm trying to watch water holes and stuff that,
but I think the velvet are going and you know
what they always do when the velvet leaves, they kind
of what you just said, They kind of get a
little screw and start doing different things. And I'm just

(39:21):
trying to put different cameras out and try trails, which
I'm over here by Mammoth Cave National Park. So you
know that limits you too. So if you got a
place at Joins A Park, acorns start following your limited
because you can't go past that boundary.

Speaker 2 (39:34):
You know, Jamie, I'm very much in concert with you
on that velvet being off for a lot of the
a deer this time for two reasons. One is this
drive weather period we're getting ready to go through right now,
and the heat we've had, as we all know, tends
to hasten that development a little bit and drive that

(39:55):
velvet out. And then with the approach of that full moon.
Big believer that the moon phase has a lot to
do with those kinds of things. And I'll be very
very shocked if a large significant, not all, but a
very large significant component of the bucks aren't shed by

(40:17):
the time the season opens this time.

Speaker 7 (40:20):
Oh yeah, I'm in agreements with that completely. And I
noticed you all something about food plots want to go
too in the crops. Scott just kind of goes back
to the bag stuff with you. I've got some bean
fields ain't done real good, and I'm thinking about this overseeding,
but turnips and rape, what do you think about that?
Just overseeding it and hoping the rain late rains and

(40:42):
knock that in and kind of leap right and still
got what beans I've got because I've got it spray
down and killed good.

Speaker 8 (40:47):
What do you think about that?

Speaker 3 (40:50):
As long as you've got good seed, soul contact, and
you get the rain that you need, you're gonna be
all right. My My biggest fear right now with brass
because is that they're just not gonna be able to
have enough time to really turn on and get you
the tonnage of brows that you want. And for those

(41:14):
that are believers in the bulb or the turnip style
of it, you're kind of getting into a really tight
window here up against his first frost. And honestly, Jamie,
I I'd go over the top of it with with
cereal rye and winter whek, and I would definitely wait
until you know for sure that that's going to be

(41:35):
a broadcast application.

Speaker 4 (41:37):
Don't damage your beans that.

Speaker 3 (41:38):
You got because a lot of this seed, if it
sits on the surface too long between the doves and
the turkeys and some of the other critters, it gets expensive.
You know, feeding them on top of the ground until
we get that first significant amount of rain to start
with that germination. So I'd lean more towards the cover crops,
and I'm sure Jim would too.

Speaker 2 (41:58):
Absolutely.

Speaker 7 (42:00):
I've been watching the weather hard.

Speaker 2 (42:01):
You know.

Speaker 7 (42:02):
We just ain't had no rain late. It just pops
up little shares, but it ain't enough.

Speaker 5 (42:06):
If you did have.

Speaker 7 (42:07):
Anything sold, it's just gonna make it come up and
die because it ain't got enough water to keep it going.

Speaker 2 (42:12):
That's that's the thing. And Scott's giving you great advice
there on changing the crop that you plant, because you
could do that so late in the year compared to
what you know. Here you're at the end of the
envelope closing with the brassicus, but the winter we and
Seria rye. You can plant that all the way up

(42:34):
into October, and if you time it with a good
rain that's coming in. You can see what that'll do
for you, buddy. It'll it'll have plenty of sustenance for
those deer, and it'll be in that really good early
stage where they'll they'll hit it hard.

Speaker 8 (42:50):
Yeah, I agree.

Speaker 7 (42:50):
That's and then what you said about the tournaments and stuff, Yeah,
I think we're slight now. I don't think we're gonna
get the bull ball from it. You know, it's just
gonna be some greenery if we got anything. Yeah, one
of those the best bang for your buck.

Speaker 3 (43:05):
Yeah, I'm just hoping it's one of those years that
our mask crop can come through.

Speaker 2 (43:09):
For the wildlife.

Speaker 3 (43:10):
And even though on yours that we have heavier mask crops,
it makes it a little bit harder to kind of
hunt and pattern deer. I just, you know, I hope
that we don't get a double whammy between the drought
without the plots and the EHD on top of you know,
folks not being able to develop their food plots. I
know a lot of times food plots get a bad rap, Jim,

(43:33):
But there's a whole lot of people out there that
are putting those food plots out to help those deer
as much carry through the winter as they are to
have a significant area to increase the chances of getting
a target deer in range. And I know that if
everything pans out the way that it's going, you know,
if if winter was to come on and hit as

(43:55):
hard as we are right now, it would it would
be a tough one.

Speaker 2 (44:00):
Are on our wildlife, Jamie, I want to add something
to this conversation, if you don't mind, I preached this
for years. Brassicas in some regards are over hyped for
what they provide. You know, I'll give you an example.
A lot of people don't know that cereal rye actually

(44:23):
sends it a root just about as deep as turns
turn them some radishes and provides that humus in the
soil the same way that the brascas do Number two.
As you know, they don't usually really hit the braskekets
till late in the year when it sugar's up, and
then it's gone, it's zipped. Well, if you add all

(44:47):
that up and think about this Tonny's per acre and
the fact that the winter wheat and rye, and particularly
the rye now I'm talking about cereal out here, Okay,
we got to be clear about that. Uh, it can regenerate,
they can grub it down and if the salt tubes

(45:08):
you reaches fifty degrees, it'll pop back up again. So
it's a heck of a bang for the buck. You know.
In many regards, I think people really ought to think
about putting it into the management plan, especially if their
plots aren't very big, because.

Speaker 3 (45:27):
There's there's a couple of there's a couple of things
too that folks can capitalize on as as things have
developed in recent years. Milands the Clover is an annual,
but it's got such a awesome characteristic and how it
can reseat itself. And as far as the daycon Radish,
a lot of people know it is the groundhauled ratish.

Speaker 4 (45:48):
It's not your typical purple top turn up.

Speaker 3 (45:52):
It's more elongated and I've had I've had a lot
better luck out of it, Jamie the last few years,
and I've had several folks that have attempted it and
tried it, and on the brassicas in general, even though
we start looking at the back of a lot of
these bags that have a picture of a big deer on,

(46:12):
I think if folks really want to play the weather right,
if you can really get out there and work your
ground up, even though this is not the way that
the average person does it. I have had tremendous success
doing my Brassica Radish style plots earlier in the summer

(46:35):
instead of waiting until August. And here's been the benefit
of it. Those plants are able to produce more tonnage.

Speaker 4 (46:42):
They're able to develop.

Speaker 3 (46:43):
My rains are a little bit more stable and consistent.
And what I have found is that it's not so
much that the turnips and the radishes don't do well
in the drought. They're just like everything else. They don't
do very well growing and there's not enough rain to
make them grow. And so get out there a little

(47:05):
bit earlier, try to capitalize on rain and just play
around and prototype some of these plots for yourself and
use different seeds in how they react. Because Jim, if
anybody knows that you you can't always follow a picture
and a little map of the United States with different
colors on it and set your clock to planting on

(47:27):
this specific date. It's more about the rain than it
is about the month.

Speaker 2 (47:31):
Amen on that well, Jammie, thanks so much for your car.

Speaker 7 (47:36):
So hey, thank you, guys, appreciate you.

Speaker 2 (47:39):
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for holding and welcome aboard. Well, thank you, Sarah.

Speaker 8 (48:17):
I'm glad that I was able to get through to you.

Speaker 2 (48:19):
Guys. Well, we're delighted to have you. What's on your
mind tonight?

Speaker 8 (48:25):
Well, I was wanted to talk a little bit about
the Turkey polts and then the dear minerals if we
got a little bit of time the mass crop. All right,
but I've been singing on this particular farm that I hunt.

Speaker 2 (48:41):
I've been.

Speaker 8 (48:42):
We've had some good luck as far as doing you know,
a lot of trapping. We have done a little bit
of habitat work. But we've have noticed that the trapping
has helped out tremendously with our pope's revival. We've got
probably ten or twelve different popes and there on the farm,
which it doesn't seem like a lot, but from where

(49:07):
we were to where we are now, it's a tremendous
amount a lot. And then I've got a little spot
here in Richmond. It's a place, it's off limb. It's
obviously you know the turkeys is there. But I've seen
three hens the other day and it looked like they
had any word from sixteen to eighteen Pope. So so

(49:30):
I guess with the cicadas must have been a big
help this year as well. So what's your all thoughts
on that?

Speaker 2 (49:39):
Well? Number one tickles me to no death to hear
about that kind of reproductive effort. And number two, this trapping,
if people do it and they keep doing it, is
definitely something that I think could turn this around in
a big way. It's shown benefit from so many people

(50:01):
that I've talked to, and it's not just turkey polts,
it's faun survival as well. The trapping, if it's done
properly and done on a continued basis, really should be
for every private wildlife manager something that they if they
can integrate into what they're doing, because there's just too

(50:22):
many predators out there and we all know what they do.
Sometimes it frustrates me where biologists to say, well that's
anecdotal evidence. Well, okay, maybe so, but I don't think
you'd agree with that. It's what you've seen, would you, Oh,
absolutely not.

Speaker 8 (50:41):
I've had some discussions before with fish and wildlife and
they were talking about, you know, habitat habitat. Well, I
just said to them, you can have all the habitat
you want, but if you don't have any eggs, the
habitat ain't gonna do you any good. And I didn't
get much of a response after that. I see, Scott, So,

(51:05):
I'm a firm believer in trapping, and actually I even
contacted our commissioner and to see if we could get
like a two week predator trapping now with the onset
of the four deer season actually started when people start
putting out the corn to help knock down some of

(51:28):
the coons down. But I've not gotten a response, and
I've been sending the same email for I don't know,
seven or eight months now.

Speaker 2 (51:37):
You know, that is an excellent idea and I would
definitely be in favor of it, especially if they said, Okay,
it has to be the dog proof trap and target
up you know, the primary predators. That would just be that.

Speaker 8 (51:55):
Would be it, you know, I would target you know,
just the raccoons and apostlems because anybody that's got a
corn pile out right now, they've got tremendous amount of
coon that kid you on it right now. I guarantee it,
no doubt about it.

Speaker 2 (52:14):
And that's a big, big problem.

Speaker 8 (52:18):
Oh yeah, I mean, if you could just have a
two week season would be phenomenal.

Speaker 2 (52:24):
Okay, I don't you had another question for us?

Speaker 8 (52:31):
Yeah, I was talking about minerals. I've noticed that I've
had I've had the bucks on the mineral sites, but
not as regular as I have.

Speaker 2 (52:42):
With the dose.

Speaker 8 (52:43):
The dose have seemed to be there just about all
hours of the day, with the exception of right there
in the middle of the day with the heat of
the day. What's your take on that. I mean, I
have had some bucks on the minerals, but the dose
have just been hammering the minerals.

Speaker 2 (53:00):
Well. I feel like because of the lactation you know,
where they have been carrying these fawns over the summer
and up in even into now, and that a lot
of the fawns obviously are starting to feed independently, but
they're still going to mama for milk, and a lot
of them got so drawn down that that mineral is

(53:21):
a huge, huge need for them, and that's something that well,
Scott and I've been preaching forever because they in some
regards more than the bucks needed. And if the bucks
are getting enough food, they're pretty much okay. So that's

(53:42):
that's my best guess at it. Okay, All right, Tonald,
We'll sure enjoy your comvents and hope you have a
great season. I'm really tickled. I'm tickled to death to
hear about your turkey, pops. We're hearing that in a
lot of areas of the state here in the last
little bit, so we'll see whether it is going forward.
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how are you doing day?

Speaker 9 (54:19):
I'm done, good brother, great show y'all got going on tonight.
Touched on a little bit of everything. The one thing
that was most recent that y'all were that you were
talking about as far as Braskas are concerned. I don't
plant a whole lot of Braskas, but I do plant
one specific one and that's called the Typhon forge turnament.

(54:39):
It's developed in Iowa and it's it increases milk production.
So if you can get them to come and eat
those turnips at the end of the year whenever those
those should be pregnant, then that's going to do nothing
but improve those fawns, uh the ability to grow and
get to their maximum body mass index. So that that's

(55:01):
the idea of our buck farms anyway, is to get
their b m I at the maximum that can be
so that they put all the XTSS nutrients into that
horn development. And that's when you end up with the
with the yearlings that have got phenomenal racks that you know,
are what letting go. I just want to what was

(55:22):
typhon forage turnips t y P h O.

Speaker 2 (55:25):
N Okay, like a hurricane or.

Speaker 8 (55:29):
Yeah, regular it's only got one.

Speaker 2 (55:31):
Hour, that's right, okay, good? Good?

Speaker 3 (55:37):
Well?

Speaker 9 (55:39):
Talking about Yeah, I talk about turkeys. Yeah, I got
rid of all my cattle just over eighteen months ago,
and I've let the pasture grow up just to see
what is in there. I hit it with a very
very light disc just to get rid of the compassion
where they had been walking those cattle do want to do.

(56:01):
And as a result, I've got you know, great little
bluestem coming up and any and grass coming up that
is saw my property. I've never planted it here. And
I like to remind people on your properties if if,
if you know, especially in central Kentucky, there wasn't a
whole lot of chemical farming done. And if he's lucky

(56:23):
enough to have an old enough property like mine that
was never touched that the native grass is there, you
just got to promote it. And uh, my neighbor, who
is a game warden, Jason Wells, and I are actually
planning on doing most of my pastor and about half
of his, uh getting ready to fall burn on it

(56:44):
so we can promulgate those grasses during the spring. But
as a result of me leaving it, not only do
I have pig weed, I've got lead plan, I've got
Johnson grass, I've got just you name it, a plethora
of weeds that to your point earlier, or maybe it
was Scott, but you know, my mother would hate my

(57:04):
pastor right now. But I love it because, as I
was telling you earlier, Jim, you know, I plan on
sitting in my driveway in a chair reading a book
on opening dead dove season. I know I'll limit out.
It won't be a problem. They're just they're all over
these these native weeds that that we don't like, but
absolutely the wildlife love them. And one of them have about.

Speaker 3 (57:28):
I've got one of the talking points you've got there,
you were talking about just going over it with a
light disk.

Speaker 4 (57:34):
The more people are.

Speaker 3 (57:35):
Understanding and the more that we're advocating for these natives,
you're going to see. And I spent the entire morning
talking about chemical and seed and fertilizer costs for production
agriculture with a sales.

Speaker 4 (57:50):
Rep this morning.

Speaker 3 (57:51):
And as we see increased cost of fertilizer, and we
see increase concerns and and input costs with chemical, one
thing that folks need to realize is that if you
will control with disking, if you'll control with burning, if

(58:12):
you'll control when you mow in those applications, Believe it
or not, fertilizer and lime, I actually get to go
to the wayside when it comes to a lot of
this and it becomes a very budget friendly and a
very impactful native regeneration. It's succession and that seed bank
has been there and it's alive, and sometimes it just

(58:35):
takes a little scratching of the dirt. Sometimes it takes
a little fire, and sometimes it takes just allowing time
to let it come up and.

Speaker 4 (58:43):
Go through the progress of succession.

Speaker 3 (58:45):
But Jim and I are going to carry out a
program later this year with the Kentucky Fire Council and
we're going to advocate for folks to learn how to
burn on their private lands. So pat on the back
for you taking that step in your management plan.

Speaker 2 (59:00):
Edmond, thanks for calling. I got to go to break here.
This break is presented by S and my marine. Go
see them. They'll take great care of you. You never
get soaked by my friends at SMI all right, folks,
we got David Holt on hold here. Hey David, how
are you, buddy?

Speaker 10 (59:20):
Good afternoon, Jim and Scott. I hope you both there
well very well. I know, uh, I just you know,
I'm a big I like the crappie fish, Jim. And
with with the turbulent flooding situation we had back in
the spring, what what effect do you see on the
crappie fishing coming up this fall? I was spent a

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whole weekend at Nolan Lake on a boat enjoying the
water in the sun, and it's wondered what there's going
to be any layover or after effects of the flooding
on the crappie fish and this this fall in Kentucky.

Speaker 2 (59:54):
As far as the fishing goes, I don't think so.
We're getting pretty good reports. And h Scott real quickly,
what are your thoughts there? I mean, what I'm curious
to see is how the spawn went and they had
not the fi Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:00:09):
The spawn probably wasn't that great, but I also think
that the weather kept enough people out from being able
to fish and capitalize on it, and the fish were
so quirky that I think it's just going to be
a wash.

Speaker 2 (01:00:22):
Now.

Speaker 3 (01:00:23):
If it would have panned out where folks could have
got out there and really pounded on the fish, uh,
it would have made a big difference. But you know, Jim,
we've got so many lakes that people weren't even able
to get out on them and even get fished back
on a pattern until you know, almost mid July.

Speaker 2 (01:00:40):
Yep, yep. Anyway, David, good.

Speaker 10 (01:00:43):
To hear from you, all right, Jim's here, yes.

Speaker 2 (01:00:46):
Sir, all right, Okay, folks, we got Dan Douglas on
the line here and Dan is with back country hunters
and anglers. They got a great, big event coming that
they wanted to share with folks.

Speaker 8 (01:01:02):
Dan, you got before, Buddy, Hey, Jim, Hey Scott, how
you guys doing this evening?

Speaker 2 (01:01:08):
Great? Great? Great.

Speaker 8 (01:01:11):
I appreciate you guys having me on tonight. Yeah, we
do have a major event coming up here on September
the thirteenth called Bourbon Bands and Public WANs. It's going
to be at the Jeff of Creed Distillery just south,
just west of Louisville there five hundred Gordon Lane and Shelbyville.

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Most folks will recognize that distillery driving down I sixty
four headed out of Louisville toward Lexington. Going to be
a really good event. I think that with the current
atmosphere on public lands, with the budget bill earlier this year,
and with other things that are happening, it's really the
prime time for us to have events, an event celebrating

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our public lands and waters here in the Commonwealth. And
we're really excited about this thing.

Speaker 2 (01:01:58):
Dan standard this is a fundraiser and where will the
funds be utilized? What can folks, you know, anticipate it.

Speaker 8 (01:02:09):
Yes, absolutely, yes, sir, so Kentucky Chapter A, Boat Country
Hunters and Anglers. We're a conservation organization. We're kind of
unique in that space that we focus on public land,
waters and wildlife. Don't We don't, you know, specialize in
any one particular species or any one particular cause. We

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kind of oversee anything that has to do with our
public lands and waters in the state. We do lots
of policy work, lots of regulation work, and probably most importantly,
we do lots of stewardship work across the state. Jim,
I'm sure you've seen lots of our events come through.
We have numerous throughout the year where we're doing property

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improvements on w m a's We're working with w m
A managers to kind of target their their peak uh
goal projects and giving them assistance as boots on the
ground back country Hunters and Anglers there is truly a
grassroots organization, uh and so this this will benefit that
that cause and help keep help us keeping a watchful

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ala on the Commission, a watchful ALEA on Congress and
also put boots on the ground out there doing improvement
work on our our public lands and waters.

Speaker 2 (01:03:25):
Now, Dan tell people what to expect at the event,
what you know, what the activities will be, and how
you know should they decide to come to this event.

Speaker 8 (01:03:38):
Absolutely, So, the event's going to start at noon and
again with the name Bourbon Bands and Public LANs. Obviously
there's going to be some good music there, but we're
going to start at noon. Uh, there's gonna be a
few people uh making some some speeches and Uh, We've
got an absolute ton of door prizes and rifles.

Speaker 2 (01:03:57):
We've got a.

Speaker 8 (01:03:57):
Couple of old town kayaks gonna be in that prize pool.
We've got several weapons, gift cards for lots of hunting
and fishing outdoor related equipment. We're going to have a
couple of food trucks out there. We are going to
have Country Boy Brewing out there with a special public
wind pilsner that they've done in conjunction with BHA, and

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the event being held at Jeff the Creed. Jeff the
Creed is in the process of rolling out a new
bourbon called Papa's Ridge, which is geared to outdoors men
and women. And we've also got a partnership going on
with L eight one and the two of them are
actually going to get together and they may craft a
very special public wand cocktail for this event. I'm not

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a drinker myself, but I know there's some people that
are really excited to see how that thing comes out.
And then the culmination of it all kind of a
public wand rally that we're going to do there and
then the music kicks off. We've got Michael Pruett as
our first artist, first Far West, which is a Grammy
nominated group there with Josh Rinkle and Laura Orshaw, and

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then our headliner, Logan Halstead. He's out of West Virginia.
All these are local folks are really making some great music.
It is a family of family friendly event. I know
the name may not sound like that, the venue may
now may not sound like that, but we're gonna have
lots of games for them. We're gonna have a pellet
gun contest. The Kentucky Fish and Wildlife Foundation is gonna

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have their archery set up out there, their inflatable archery
for the NASBOS, lots of other games, and then thirty
Feet Ahead Deer Tracking is going to go out there
and do some demos with their their deer tracking dogs.
The kids always get a get a get a kick
out of that, So we're really looking forward to that.

Speaker 2 (01:05:47):
Okay, cool, what's the cost and how do folks get
tickets ahead of time? What's the mechanics of that?

Speaker 8 (01:05:57):
Sure? Sure, Well, we had a couple of really good
sponsors at Kentucky gun Co and Lewis and Grant Auctions
and several others that sponsored the event, which lead led
us keep the costs really low. Tickets are fifteen dollars
pre sale. You can get those from our website. I'll
go over all that here in just a minute, and
then twenty dollars the day of the event, so really

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low cost of entry for this thing. We're not looking
to make a bunch of money off of this. We
really want to get the word out. See if we
can't put just a little bit in the coffers to
help us keep doing our mission work there. But we
tried to keep it really low barrier to entry to
make everyone welcome.

Speaker 2 (01:06:39):
Cool. So basically folks should go to the website.

Speaker 8 (01:06:43):
Then yep, yep. There's several different ways to get a
hold of us. I'll run through them real quick here.
Our Facebook group is the Kentucky Chapter of back Country
Hunters and anglers. I think you do have to spell
that out on Facebook to find it on Instagram, it's
much simpler. We're at Kentucky BHA and then you can

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find us on the BHA website Backcountry Hunters dot org.

Speaker 2 (01:07:08):
Okay, very good, sir. Well it sounds like a whole
lot of activities for not too much money.

Speaker 8 (01:07:15):
So man, I think you go to be a really,
really good time. We really look forward to having folks
come out and join us.

Speaker 2 (01:07:22):
And if you don't mind give the dates time it's
in the location once again, please.

Speaker 8 (01:07:27):
Yes, sir, September thirteenth noon start time. That'll probably run
till somewhere around eight. The bands are going to start
somewhere around four thirty September the thirteenth. That Jeff the
Creed Distillery in Shelbyville.

Speaker 2 (01:07:41):
Very good, Well, I hope it's a great event. It
sounds like you all got a lot going on there.

Speaker 8 (01:07:48):
Yes, sir, we certainly appreciate it. Jim Scott, it's good
to talk to y'all.

Speaker 2 (01:07:52):
Yes, sirs, good to have you, well Scott. As a
wrap up tonight, I got some takeaways on the program.
Number one, pretty darn good Turkey Polt reports coming in.
I know you're as excited about that as I am.

Speaker 3 (01:08:08):
I am, and I'm glad to see that folks are
being rewarded very quickly for their efforts. I connected the
Dotts wants to call in. That was Tommy Taylor out
of Richmond, Kentucky. And I've traveled and hunted with Tommy
quite a bit. And one of the things that Tommy
has done that has really allowed him to capitalize on

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the management.

Speaker 4 (01:08:30):
Of his property is he has allowed trappers.

Speaker 3 (01:08:33):
To come in to the place because he doesn't have
the skills set or the time to do what he
needs to.

Speaker 4 (01:08:40):
Do in regard to trapping.

Speaker 3 (01:08:41):
And I want to encourage other landowners to open the
door and to allow these trappers to come and utilize
your property after hunting season. I promise you it's not
going to be an infringement. You're going to be rewarded
with lots of good numbers in return on all of
your critters because of how these predators are having a

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lot of complications with gain survival, too much fatality from
not only nesting predators, Jim, they get all the attention
these bobcats and coyoats can wreak havoc on our wildlife species.

Speaker 4 (01:09:14):
This we want as well.

Speaker 2 (01:09:15):
And you know, I was really impressed with his thoughts
about enabling folks that are putting out bait for deer
season coming or feed to be able to trap coons
and possums using dogproof traps, because in the past the
pushback against tramping during those periods has been well to

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fellas that you don't want to run hounds or trained
dogs would put them in harm's way if they were
using lego traps. Well, he's got an excellent idea. There.
Hardly anybody that I know that puts out corn for
deer doesn't have huge problems with coons, but they're handcuffed
by their inability to be able to legally trap those

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coons during this period of the year. And think about
what they could do to knock those populations back a
little more. You know, everybody tries to target later, but
these guys are out checking their cameras, they're out putting
out the corn. If they're able to ease those coon
proof traps down, I think that is a great idea.
I really I can get behind that.

Speaker 3 (01:10:21):
Yeah, Jim, there's something going on too with our raccoons.
And I'm not sure if it's going to be connected
to the cicadas or if it's going to be connected
to the amount of rains that we've had, But I
am seeing more young coons and the bait areas right
now that have been born this this year. It's not

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uncommon to see six eight young raccoons.

Speaker 4 (01:10:46):
In these these images. So it's it.

Speaker 3 (01:10:48):
We're gonna really need to turn it up and go
after I'm hot and heavy this year.

Speaker 4 (01:10:53):
There's not there's no shortage.

Speaker 3 (01:10:55):
I'm not sure what's gonna pan out on the crappee
or the turkey polts or whatever in all the areas,
but between my friends and myself, there is no pockets
on the shortage of coons. There are coons everywhere and
they are in massive numbers. So they had a great
little mentality there instead of a fatality this year, and

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we're going to have to go after him.

Speaker 2 (01:11:19):
Yes, sir, well, these are some great ideas coming and
I love it because it's coming from boots on the
ground kind of guys. And I hope, you know, the
fish wine commissioners and others pick up on some of
these ideas because they're good ideas, you know, it's hard
to argue against why you shouldn't be able to control

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predators at the time of the year, when the average
landover or the average hunter's out there and he's got
paid out, that's a good time to take care of it. Well.
We were visited up at a later time, but really
enjoyed the show tonight, folks. Thanks to everyone from the
Call Red. We'll be here next week. Face seem count

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God bless everybody.