July 23, 2018 • 42 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
For a lot of people. You know, why are you wait?
Do you know what you want to do? And this
is what you want to do, and do it. I'm
a hustle side side hustle. Do it. I'm a hustlesd
side hustlo do it. I'm a hustle side slow. I'm
a hustle side side slow. I'm a hustle, a side
side hustler. Come on ask about me, yo yo. It's
(00:24):
the Side Hustless podcast. We call the RT. Yes, this
is Garla Marie and this is my side Hustlers podcast.
And that guy that was doing that awesome intro, he
put that whole thing together. That is my friend Ronnie.
He was on one of my episodes of Side Hustlers
and I talked about this last week. But he has
since moved away from Elbaston in the Morning show and
(00:46):
moved to Washington, d C. To work for NPR and
I've been following him on Instagram and seeing his new
life and it's so cool. You can check him out
at bald Freak Music to find him. And I'm really
a fan of doing these weekly update with everyone and
it's crazy that there's actually something to talk about every week.
Especially after last week. I had all these updates from
(01:07):
awesome side hustlers, but the latest is super cool. So
Valley and Rose Flower Truck. I told you she gave
her two weeks at her job so she can flower
truck it every day. Well, she teamed up with Chalk Boss.
We had Katie and Chalk Boss did the side of
the flower truck. It looks incredible. You can check it
out on Instagram at Valian Rose Flower Truck or at
(01:29):
Chalk Boss. So freaking cool. I know. Joke teared up
when I saw their collaboration. And uh, I'll talk about
this a little later, but coming soon, I'm gonna do
a meet up with a bunch of these badass people
and I can't wait to share more about that. But
I also told you that last weekend I was doing
a photo shoot with Andrea Michelle. Now she was on
(01:50):
the podcast. Her instagram is at Andrea Michelle Photo. So
we did our photo shoot and it was awesome. But
she also did a photo shoot with Andrew Coleman Smith,
who was also on this podcast. So many things going on.
This is so freaking cool to me how everyone is
linking up. But she did a photo shoot with him
because Andrew who was who is a YouTuber and has
(02:12):
a YouTube series, just launched his own line of merch.
I've got one of the shirts. It says fat Tuesday,
because that is the name of his series. It's so
cool to see this, to see people grow and even
people who have already stepped out of their comfort zone
doing it even more so. Go check came out on Instagram.
It's at Andrew Cole Smith. Okay, so today I am
(02:33):
joined by Matt Oliva. So Hi Matt. First of all,
good morning, how are you doing. So we've known each
other for quote unquote, known each other for what is
it now, probably eight seven years? Maybe, yeah, pretty much,
but this is our first time at least face to
face FaceTime anyway. But we've talked on the phone because
you used to call in to Elvis's show or you
(02:54):
would message on Facebook or Instagram and I would get
you on the air and I was answering the phones
for the show. So we've known each other for years
at this point, and when you reached out, I was like,
oh my god, yeah, this is so cool. We can
actually have a conversation and I would love to hear
about your side hustle because yours is so different than
everyone so far. I'm also excited to have another guy
(03:15):
on because the ladies have been kicking ass. I just
want to say, they've been showing up. So you're here
to represent the guys in their side hustles. UM. So,
your side hustle is called Seed Technologies, and I had
to kind of have you explain it to me twice
because the first time I was like, wait, what explain this?
I didn't even know this existed so briefly, and we're
gonna get into it more. I want you to explain
(03:36):
to everyone listening what exactly See Technologies is. So again,
thanks for having me and awesome, great opportunity. What we
do we do a lot. Like I said, we've grown
since we first started. We started off as tech support
for local businesses in the area, training people like just
helping everyday people like a grandma with an iPhone and
(03:58):
just helping there get your to it. But today we're
doing a lot more. We're helping businesses get off the ground,
we're helping them get online, start e commerce. It's it's
pretty insane. I didn't think we would get to this
point and we're only in year two. So we're a
tech consulting company. To make it brief. So you right now,
I'm looking where you're Are you at home in your
(04:20):
room right now talking to me? Is that also your office? Yes?
It is? Okay, I love it. So let's go back,
because I think everyone's going to find what you do
very very interesting. And like I said, I'm so intrigued
by the fact that this is even a thing, and
I love it so much. And there's like a phil
philanthropic side of what you do that I love even more.
(04:41):
But this was a side hustle. So let's go back
to when this first started, or when the idea started.
What was your regular nine to five at the time
when this first started. I was working at Verizon. When
I got the first idea, I was teaching people and
I was helping people on the side. They would just
come up to me, Hey, can you teach me how
to do this? Can help me? I want to take
(05:01):
you home? Was the most thing I was told often.
Then I started to work at Apple. Off of a
bet and I got that bet and I got there
time out. What do you mean let's talk about off
of a bet? What does that mean? So it was
just a coworker, and somebody was just saying, I bet
you can't work at Apple, like I bet you wouldn't
get the job. And it took a long time. It
(05:22):
took twelve interviewers and two years to get there. Just
a lot of pushing forward, not giving up with that job.
So was your you know, with the bet you were gonna, oh,
I got offered a job at Apple and then not
take it, or were you actually going to get offered
the job? And your goal was to take this job.
My goal was to take that, okay, and you did. So. Yeah.
There was always a dream to see if I could
(05:44):
get in there. I tried working there when I was
what thirteen, and obviously I was way too young, so
I came back at sixteen. Still wouldn't let me in.
Um so I finally got it. I think I was
nineteen twenty at the time. I could be a little
wrong on that. I it was a while ago, but
I was working there and people just again, wow, you
really know your stuff. This is great reaching out to
(06:07):
me on the side. And then I lost my job
at Apple. So I figured I'm just gonna do this
and figure it out on my own, Okay. So you
bring up a few things. One is that a lot
of people talk about I lost my job then I
started my side hustle. Do you think there's something to
be said for losing a job and kicking it off,
or do you wish that you started before you lost
(06:28):
the job. I kind of started before I lost at
the job, but it was just more of a pipe
dream and I was just doing random things. I probably
started this maybe six times before something caught. So, uh, yeah,
I wish I started it more aggressively before. But I'm
glad when I lost it, it kicked me off, all right,
(06:48):
So good to know. So anyone who's working right now
thinking I want to start it, I want to start it.
Just do it. That I guess that is like the
best advice everyone has given us is as simple as
it is, is just do it. But you talked about
how you went through twelve interviews. Were those twelve failed interviews?
Or Okay, now here's the next round, and how did
that go? It was here's the next round, fail, here's
(07:09):
the next round, failed, back and forth, and then just
a long period of nothing. So I eventually got fed
up and I walked into the store and I just
said can I please speak to a manager, like, I
just want to know. Am I gonna get hired? Am
I not? Am I in the middle of something? Uh?
And he came out and told me I've never seen
(07:30):
you before, I've never heard of your name, nothing. But
he was three months in New so he said, I
appreciate how aggressive you are, so I'm going to give
you a shot. That could have gone either way though.
That could have been like mall security taking you out. Yeah.
I wasn't jumping in there demanding to speak to somebody.
But I got lucky because typically they don't even do
(07:51):
that for anybody. But I got through and I got
an interview from two other managers on the spot. And
then he came back and he said, you know what, uh,
I really like you. We talked a little longer and said,
I'm going to give you a shot. Here, you have
one more interview, just show up. Job. Yeah, so you
were hired as what they called it an FRS or
(08:14):
a family room specialist. So my job was anything related
to iPhones at the time, and this was like iPhone four,
iPhone three still yeah, exactly nowadays, any iPods, any iPads.
When I first came out, so like the family room,
so families. My other job was fixing them, training people
(08:35):
on how to use them and group classes, which was
really cool. So it was a really cool experience to
get hands on with people and right in the face
to face and they were all happy to see me. First,
What Apple did you work at? It was in Rockaway
in New Jersey. Cool at the mall or is it?
I'm just curious anyone's listening if they said, oh my god,
(08:56):
I've been to that one and it's really cool. Maybe
helped them. So the Apple in Rockaway, New Jersey. And
where are you right now? By the way, I didn't
even say where do you live? Where do you come from?
I'm in sweet in New Jersey, coast to coast right now.
I love it. And you mentioned that you were ninety
when you got hired at Apple. How will you now?
I am? You just hear? Yeah, that's right, we're the
same ames. That's right. Thirties pretty awesome, right. I told
(09:19):
you it wasn't going to be the bed. Yeah, I'm
I'm been looking at it more of all. Right, I
think I got my ship together. Let's try it again
in this decade. Exactly. That is exactly how I've been
looking at it too. Okay, so seed Technologies. First of all,
what is the name and where does the name come from?
Like I said, we tried a few times with other names.
One of the names that was gonna stick was Core
(09:41):
and the whole idea was we're going to teach her
from the core, from the inside out. And then it
just wasn't sticking. So a friend of mine, Joe, and
I were actually driving down the road just talking about it,
and he said, how about seed because you can plant
the seed, teach somebody and it'll grow. Said you know what,
I kind of like idea. Let's go with it, and
that's pretty legit. Yeah, good idea. So you do have
(10:06):
people working for you now, so a lot of the
side hustlers I talked to, it's just them doing all
of it. Was it ever just you really hustling trying
to do this. Yeah, for the first maybe, well the
whole time until last year actually it was all just me. Wow.
And then how did you get this collection of people?
(10:27):
Because there's six of you totaled, now there is five.
You're not sure. You had to look down there's so
many of you. Yeah, my first person that came on
board with me, and I've had other people on board
on and off, but like you know, people that are
just coming in contacting, just looking for some sidecash whatever
I can help a friend with of course, But the
(10:49):
one that got into it with me is Sam Sweynos.
He was my ex band mate back right after high school.
So we worked really well together in a band that
if you can do that, you can get through anything exactly.
So when you say you told me you've got people
from coast to coast, New Jersey and California working, how
do you guys get yourselves out there to say, hey,
(11:12):
we do this, Welcome to your home, or we'll help
your business, or we'll teach you technology. How do you
tell people that? Because the whole idea of hey, I'm
gonna come over and teach you technology kind of sounds creepy. Yeah,
now again it's it's inviting a stranger into your house. Actually,
But the nice thing about it is from from working
at those retail jobs. So many people coming out, like
(11:34):
I said before, they keep inviting me into their home
because it's convenience. So when you can make somebody feel
comfortable and get into their home, they feel great about that.
But for right now, it's been word of mouth. Until
the past year, we've been using social media to get
out there more. Um, but even word of mouth between
(11:54):
my teammates, just spreading the word on the other coast. Uh.
And it's been kind of crazy of the opportunities we've
been handed so far. Well, one of the first things
I said to you when you explained to me what
you do in an email, was, oh, my god, can
I send you to my parents, because so many of
us get so unbelievably frustrated trying to help our parents.
(12:16):
And maybe it's because we're not getting paid to do it,
but but we do get very frustrated with it's everything
from the remote to trying to teach them that they
need to remember their apple I D. Because it's just
torture trying to get back in. So what is that
I'm assuming you do work with some older people and
obviously younger people too, But what are some of the
simplest things you've had to help people with? Uh? Well, first,
(12:40):
my parents are saying I have no patience with them,
but anybody else, I'm like, okay, same. The most basic,
turning a phone on, answering a phone call, turning a
printer on okay, resetting something. Okay, printers are actually like
kind of hard to use. Sometimes they're just to paint
in the apple lot. Okay, I will do that. Love
(13:03):
scanners and god, why do we even have these things anymore?
I feel like there should be something better. So, yeah,
I use my phone for scanning. It's much easier, like
the Times. Do you have what app do you use
um for scanning? Yeah, it's built into my phone, actually
into the iPhone. Notes like you're just going too there
and hit scanned document. Oh see, I use camp scanner.
(13:23):
Now I'm learning something different, thank god, And I use that. Okay, good,
I'm loving this. I'm actually learning things in this podcast too.
Can you please come teach me Aparely there's things about
my iPhone that I don't even know. That's uh, that's
my niche. The iPhone and Mac are like my top
thing that I know. So you said something to me
when I told you we were going to face time.
You said, I'm using a beta version of whatever. It
(13:45):
may not be able to work. Is that? Like, why
do you even what do you do? You test things beforehand?
How does all of that work? Yeah? I've been doing
this ever since they gave me the opportunity, and you
have to be a developer. I'm not. But you can
download the test software that's coming out in the fall.
Uh Now they have a public beta, so anybody can
do it. But the whole point of it is so
(14:08):
I can learn all the new features in the summer
before it comes out in the fall, so I have
a step ahead of the game. So if something breaks,
I already know how to fix it. Right. So when
we're or when we're all freaking out, like how do
I do this? How do I do that? You know
the answer to the question, yeah, because it happens with
every big update, something big changed or something new, or
how do I do this? So you talked about going
to people's homes and helping them one on one, which
(14:30):
is awesome because learning new technology can be very frustrating
no matter how old you are. But something you brought
up is how mom and pop shops in places like
New Jersey and not big cities like New York or
Seattle are losing businesses because they're not adapting to technology.
And one of the things you brought up is square
and square is this I guess little contraption that can
attach to your iPhone or iPad, and it's what helps
(14:54):
smaller businesses swipe your credit card. You know. It's not
like when you're going to a big Walmarter Target, I've
say they have a big built in system, but these
smaller stores don't have that. And you said small businesses
are actually losing business because of this, Yes, so yeah,
and I'm seeing it more and more pop up. I
think I told you the story. The first time I
saw it, I was out in some college I can't
(15:17):
even remember where it was, someplace in p A and uh,
it was like after everybody goes out, so it's one
in the morning and there's this girl on the sidewalk
selling hot dogs, uh, using a square reader. So it's
just her and a guy and hot dogs. And I
was like, more people should do this. Why don't people
do this? Because she's making bank from drunk people that
(15:42):
late at night on a corner by a bar, from
an app and that's amazing. So yeah, more people should,
uh you know, take to this. So I'm trying to
help mom and pop sub places like Delhi's Pizzeria's. Uh
it's getting pretty cool, but in our area especially not
very popular yet. But like in Seattle, no matter where
(16:04):
I go, that is literally how I pay for everything.
You see them just poop on the little iPad or
even some department stores. Now I'm assuming it's probably not square.
It's probably their their own thing. But they can swipe
or check you out from literally the middle of the store,
in between clothing racks using a phone. It's crazy. So
these small businesses, though, who aren't adapting. You said, it's
(16:25):
kind of like killing them because they're not adapting to technology.
So do you go into a store and say, hey,
I can help you, Like, how do you approach someone
like that? It's always weird approaching somebody, especially in the
older generation, because their mind is if it's not broken,
I don't need to fix it. They don't know what exactly,
and it's I tell them. I try to make them
(16:45):
understand it's a revenue that you're missing out on. It's
just more customers. Why wouldn't you want more business? Like
kids are aging, younger are paying with their phones, their watches,
they're paying with apps. If if you can't accept that current, see,
they're just gonna miss out. I don't I don't know
about you, but I don't carry that much capine the day.
(17:07):
So are these small businesses not accepting credit cards at all?
Are they just not using a newer system, not using
the newer system? Uh, they're using old credit card transactions,
and a lot of them are stuck into contracts, so
it's hard to even get them to want to talk
out of it. So if someone say, lives in Kansas
right now and they're listening to this and they've got
(17:27):
a small business and they want you to help them,
can you help them without physically being there to an extent,
I fly out no matter what if I have to.
Oh yeah, if I have to, I'm going to show up.
That's just the nature of the business, at least to
start everything. But once we get everything started and hooked up,
it can be remote from there. And of course if
(17:48):
they want us to come out, we can. No big deal.
But we just did it for our client out in
l A a a couple of months ago, just to help
them get off the ground. I was out there for
a week, came back and we're good to go. And
that's awesome. So if anyone wants to check you out,
it's seed llc dot net right Yes, Okay, So if
you guys want to check out Matt and and his
Are they your coworkers and employees? What would you call them?
(18:12):
More teammates, teammates, fellow entrepreneurs. It's cool. So, yeah, you
this started as your side hustle, but the other people
working for you this is still their side hustle, and
you're kind of just this is all you're doing now,
which is awesome, But what other things are those people
doing that this is their side hustle? Ah, So I
(18:33):
mentioned Sam. He's an actor on the side and that's
his big dream, his big side hustle that he does.
He's always running around, he's always on the road, but
his main job is a financial analyst. It's crazy, that's exactly.
That's his nine to five and he traveled all around
for it. But he makes time for everything, including my thing.
(18:53):
And he is my he's my director of operations, so
like he runs, he's the numbers guy. He's all that
at So he's got a lot on his plate and
he manages it beautifully. And he wants to be an
actor though, yes, that's his main that's his main goal.
Is that is wild and yeah, he's been in some
big commercials and stuff like that, and small indie films.
(19:16):
So and he also helps out one of our other
team members with their production company. Okay, so then you've
got someone who does this and has a production company. Yes,
so her name is Teresa. She's also a producer. That's
her nine to five. Um, And like I said, she
owns her own production company, and she does our research
(19:36):
and like our presentations and puts all our info together
for us. So, like she's always running around as well.
It's so crazy to think that you've your side hustle
has turned into other people's side hustles and those people
also have more side hustles. Yeah, it's We're a group
of NonStop people. It's insane. Is there anyone else that's
(19:57):
got crazy? This is what? Um, there's more. Yeah, Casey,
he's our graphic designer. He also does I don't know
what the right terminology for it, but he does graphic
design and digital stuff digital marketing. Digital stuff is actually
the correct term for the rest of the world other
than digital people. That's that's a good point. Uh. He
(20:20):
does that for his nine to five. He has his
own clothing brand company that that's his main side hustle.
So he helps us out with like websites and graphic
design and videos and photoshop and all that jazz. Do
you know that? Do you know the name of his
clothing company? Can we shout him out? Oh? Yes, Stranded
Adventure Company. Stranded Adventure Company. All right, I'm gonna actually
have to. Maybe we'll get him on the podcast. I
(20:41):
love this. This is so fun. Okay, Stranded Adventure Company.
All right. So this is like a side hustler web
that I'm now called in. Let me go back a
little bit now. You mentioned to me you had a
brief volunteering time in a hospital. How did that happen? Like,
how did you get to the hospital to say, hey,
I will teach everyone here how to use their phones
or whatever you did? Like, what was the beginning step
(21:01):
of that? Yeah, so for a little bit after I
quit my full time job. Uh, this obviously wasn't full
full not yet. We weren't there yet. So I needed
some other side money. So I was doing lift for
a couple of weeks just to get some cash in.
And one of my last rides on one of my
first days was this older gentleman, Jim, And he has
(21:26):
cancer like crazy, and I feel terrible for the guy,
and I was bringing him to a cancer treatment, a
radiation treatment in Marstown, and uh, on the way there,
he said, you know, I'm looking for somebody that I
could trust, that is a good person that can just
help me get back and forth and get some errands done.
And I thought about it for a few days, and uh,
(21:49):
I found some time to do it, and so I
I help him. So I've been going to the hospital often,
like every day, this poor guy for about an hour
and a half. So when I'm nail that not right
now because he's on like treatment breaking until he goes
back for chemo. Wow, so soon I'll be back there. Um.
(22:10):
So whenever I'm there, I'm just sitting there and just
listening in and I hear a lot of the staff,
most of them being volunteers themselves, struggling with their phone,
and I just overhear him. So I just kindly interrupt
and say, hey, you know, I can help you with
that if you need. Like, I'm here, I'm not doing
anything else. So I'll sit down with them and I'll
just patiently go over it with them, and they love it.
(22:32):
That's crazy. Yeah, it's uh, like I said, anybody that
I can see struggling. I want to help him out.
There's I feel like I have so many things out
of this story. Not only do you just overhear people
complaining about technology, which I feel like you can literally
go anywhere and hear that and you help them, but
the fact that you started doing this for this guy,
like you have no idea the impact I think that
(22:54):
you've probably made on his life. No, they tell me
every time, and I'm every day and I'm just it's
no big deal to me. It's a few hours. I
don't mind at all. Yeah, but it's awesome and especially
for someone older who probably thinks our generation is a
bunch of crap, you're you're doing good for the rest
of us. So thank you. So what, um, I guess
(23:15):
are there specific businesses or types of businesses or people
or stores that you've kind of helped launch or stories
that you can tell us about what Seed Technologies has
done that we can kind of share with everybody. So
we have two clients that are like our our big
deal right now. We have a big one in New Jersey. Uh,
that's east Side Bulk. They're trucking a material company. We
(23:38):
help them just start their entire office. We help the
owner just get everything set up. All of his back
end stuff went in installed, the servers, set up, all
the computers, helped the people use the materials and stuff.
We actually did a photo shoot of his material specifically
for him. When you say his materials like trucking, this
(24:00):
like designer rocks and sand and stuff like that. But
we wanted to make sure that his stuff looked great.
A so you built his website. Yes, okay, So you
literally went in there and basically may obviously, this person
has their business, this company has their business. But if
you didn't go in there and do all the things
(24:21):
you did, know one would know it existed in this
world that we live in now. Yes, wow, yeah, that,
which is pretty crazy when you put it like that. Yeah,
it's true. I mean that. And on top of the whole,
there's all these systems that go on in the background
of every business that we don't even think about. It
just happens I slip my credit card, or this computer
pops up, or this is how I search for books
(24:42):
and Barnes and Noble at the store. If you happen
to be still buying books in the store, you don't
realize that there's this whole system that a human probably
set up, and that's what Seed Technologies does. So you
basically started this person's entire trucking company. Well, I mean
he started, Yeah, I found him. Actually he found me
years ago when I was just putting ads on Facebook.
(25:04):
Hey I can fix your computer stuff, and he reached
out to me. So I fixed his computer years ago
and he said, hey, I'm running a bit or i'm
starting a business. Can you help me out? And just
went from there. So again, just helping somebody in need
turned into that opportunity. It's amazing. So what other Because
I was on your website actually see LLC dot net
and I saw that you had a little feature for them,
(25:26):
which was pretty cool. But what other big clients have
you launched or are you working with now? Another one
is called ASP and Company. So they do home decre
handmade home to core, handmade pillows, scarves. They also make
candles like just out of natural material. Well I'm just sapping.
And the fact that you went from trucking company to
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hand meet pillows and candles. I love this. Yeah, we
help anybody, so like no dream too is too small
for anybody. Like if you have an idea, we can
make it work. This is oh cool, which is super
helpful because the people that listen to this podcast are
often people that want to start aside hustle or I've
got a ton of people that I've talked to in
this podcast that would probably love to go to you
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for help with their their own business. We're gonna need
you to come out to Seattle because a lot of
them are out here. We'll just have you like a
full week of launching businesses. I can do that, all right, sweet?
So what was the name of that company? The home
company Company? How it's pronounced Okay, that's awesome. Yeah, they
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it's for women that own this company. One of them
is the daughter of Sydney Pointier A. Nika is the
one that we work with. It's his daughter and she's
the name and the face behind this company. So it's
pretty insane because I was telling you before, never just
it never struck to me. And he's a famous actor. Yeah,
(26:54):
he's he's the first black actor to win an Academy Award.
That I was like, I know the name this year
and I feel like was a lot a lot of
the award shows this year we kept hearing that, Um,
how did you realize it was his daughter. My business
partner told me, like, we were just we were having
a meeting the other night and it just came up
and I was like, wait what I kind of knew,
but it never clicked. So it was just insane, like
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helping somebody that big and were this small, you know
what I mean, Like just a kid out of hopack
On in New Jersey and there we're helping them. That's
mind blowing to me. Yeah, it's cool, it's cool, and
you don't You've obviously started something that people need, which
is something when people are listening to this podcast and
they have all these thoughts and ideas a lot of
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times they think, well, what do people need? And that's
where you find your niche and you run with it.
If it's something you actually care about and you're passionate about,
that's a win win because it's gonna be awesome. Yeah,
and people infinitely people need this. I mean, look at
how fast technology changes and how fast it's kind of
smacked us in the face. If you don't keep up,
you're just gonna get knocked over and the rest of
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the world is gonna keep going without you. Seed Technologies
is something that I think a lot of us may
not realize we need or a lot of these companies
may think, Oh, I can do it on my own.
I'm not dumb. It doesn't mean you're dumb. Well, there's
a hell of a lot of information out there that
we don't know about as normal people, and you smart
people can help us. Yeah, exactly. That's That's what I
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like to tell people a lot. There's no dumb question,
just you don't know the answer, and that's okay. Somebody
has to know it. So why struggle yourself when you
have somebody that's patient and kind that can help. Yeah,
because it's not me. So that's why I'm black. You're
here to do that. Where do you see seed technologies going? Like,
what is the future? Do you have an idea? You're
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just you know what, I want to keep picking up
more clients or do you want to one day have
a storefront where people get to come in with their
phones and say help me, I need help? But what
is the plan? You know? I keep thinking about it
and it's a daydream at the same time, because it's
still so surreal that I'm here doing this, Like I
just mind blowing. So I joke with my partner all
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the time. You know, we're gonna have we're gonna have
an office out on the beach over there, and then
we're gonna have a big corporate office over here, and
like we're gonna have a store over there. So it's
it's still a mixed dream right now. I'm just going
with the flow. Whatever whatever happens happens, because again, last
year I had one idea for where this was going
to go, and the people that came on board shifted
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it in a great way. And now we're doing some
incredible things that I didn't even think we're possible from me. So, uh,
I don't know how to answer that. No, that's fine,
and listen when you're the next Jeff Aesos though, don't
forget about me. You know the first person who got
you on the radio when you called in, that would
be me. Okay, you don't have to worry about that.
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I will be knocking on your door, like Matt, do
you remember me if I can't even get to your gate,
because you're totally going to be like Jeff beesos. Um. So,
one thing I like to ask everyone is, and I
guess your situation is is crazy because you've kind of
been in the world of technology. A lot of people
that I talked to, are you do in a nine
to five that's completely different in there? Like I'm getting
(30:10):
hoti here and I'm starting a flower truck or whatever
it is. Who I've talked to, Has there ever been
anyone in your life that's like, Matt, you're dumb. You
can't start your own company to help people? Yeah, Planny,
I I hear it, even even to today, people that
are just telling me it's never gonna work, Like you're
not going to get that far. Who are these people?
(30:30):
Is my question every time, Like, who are you to
crap on somebody's dream? Terrible people, that's who they are. Like,
I don't need to hear that. No, I'm not trying
to do it to impress anybody. This is what I
want to do because I love doing it. And if
you're not doing something that you love, what's the point.
It sounds like these are probably Jersey people. A lot
of you would know, you know the attitude, it's true,
(30:52):
and I don't know what it is. And this is
going to get a little bit away from um sid
hustlers for a second. But moving out to the West,
coast has been refreshing in that sense of you could say, oh,
everybody's happy all the time. It's not that. Something about
New York and New Jersey it's so cut throat that
if you're not doing it, then it's stupid and you
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need to bring it down. We're out here. It's Oh
my god, that's so cool. I want to help you,
I want to support you. Oh you're not living in
your parents basement, and that's cool because in New Jersey
it is so our parents are so like, we don't
want you to grow, we don't want you to leave.
And I actually read this in Uh, I think it's
You're a Badass with Jensen Sarah. She talks about Italian
mothers and how it's like this Italian mother syndrome and
(31:36):
the mom doesn't want you to leave, so they kind
of bring you down and make sure you stay in
their little bubble and not and not grow up. And
that's literally all of New Jersey. And no offense to
every anyone from New Jersey listening. If I offended you,
I'm not sorry. It's the truth. But but it's so crazy.
Why And I've noticed that most of the side Hustle's
life scene are not all East Coast people. It's a
(31:58):
lot of West Coast and other cities because these people
have passions and they're not afraid to follow because they
don't have people around them beating them down. So congrats
to you on doing it with all those people around you. Yeah,
thank you, because it is quite annoying to be honest,
to hear it over and over. But it's very pleasing
to be successful where I am today and just be like, man,
(32:20):
it doesn't matter what you say, like I really don't care,
I don't have time anymore. It's true. It makes success
that much sweeter that you can be like, remember when
you said this wasn't gonna work. Look what I just said,
shut your mouth. Yep. And I always said it's so cheesy,
but let your haters be your motivators. Keep doing it
because at the end of the day, they're going to
be the ones miserable stuck in some job that they
(32:41):
hate because they were too scared to do it. And
that's not you exactly or your your teammates. Because that's awesome. Um,
I feel like this question is gonna be a little
different for you than anyone else. But what apps do
you use that kind of help out with your job.
And I always say, other than Instagram, I feel like
Instagram is not really anything that you know, everybody uses Instagram,
(33:03):
that's just and you know, it's so hard for me
to use Instagram because I don't have like flashy things,
so I have to talk about it, which is fine.
But cutting Instagram out. A life changer for me has
been Slack because I have to work with my teammates.
Slack is like dream come true because I hate email,
like I'll do it, but I try to make it
(33:25):
like important, like I'm actually writing a letter to somebody.
Slack is like am in today's future. Yeah, it's kind
of like taking group messaging, group texting and emails and
making it simpler, but taking the text side away from
it and making it a little more formal. I guess
I have Slack. I have no reason to use it
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in the world that I'm in, which sucks because everyone
always all my friends who are work for big companies
or small companies say oh, I love Slack, and I'm like,
I want to play. I want to use Slack too.
I might. I might start Slack. For everyone who has
been on this podcast asked just so that would be
a good idea because then you have everybody working together,
and like everybody that's been on here so far are
(34:08):
incredible people because they've been going nuts to do whatever
they want to do and they're not letting anybody stop them.
That's a good group of people to be in. It's true.
And side note and a little I guess foreshadowing. I
am kind of building a group and you'll be finding
out about it soon. We're going to try to do
meetups although you live on the other side of the country.
I will try to put them all over. But seriously,
it's true, and I guess we can start it with
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something like Slack. That would be awesome. And then when
I need to build a website or a company, I'm
just gonna go to you and be like, help, how
do I get all these people to talk to each other?
Thanks Matt very much. UM, are there any other apps
to use? Because I feel like you probably have about
fifty of them that you could tell us. Another one
that I use If you use Gmail, which everybody does
(34:50):
pretty much. UM, we use their g suite, which is fantastic. Uh.
G suite is the It's really how me and my
team gets to work together because it's all in the cloud.
It's like our file storage. We have our presentations or documents.
We have a meeting tool which is great and it
looks super professional because we can dial in with like
(35:11):
like you can call me from the phone and get
into this nice meeting. So it's it's very helpful for
us being so far away to use that. Uh. And
one more is inbox by Gmail, which is why I
brought them up. In boxes like the best way to
look at your email because I don't know about you.
I get a lot of emails and I'm sure you
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do too. Inbox makes it so organized and let's you
kind of like say, all right, I'm done with these,
so I don't have to have a bi jillion emails
in my inbox. Or if something comes up, you can
sneerze it so if I don't have time to deal
with it right now, bring it back to me next
by weekend. Okay. So you use the Gmail app rather
(35:51):
than the regular, say Safari email app I use. I
don't even use gmails called inbox inbox so it's not
but is it a Gmail app? Is it a Google app? So?
And it takes all your emails so even if I
have like an Outlook email address from my heart radio,
I can put it in there. It should work. Don't
(36:11):
quote me on that one. Hey, you're supposed to know.
That's one of the few that I don't. I think
it only works with Gmail, to be honest. Okay, okay,
fair enough, fair enough, But that's cool. Al Right. So Inbox,
g Suite, and Slack. Yes, those are my my top
three because without them might be dead. Wow. Alright, good
to know, Good to know. So I do have a question, though,
(36:32):
what is your day to day like? I mean, it's
got to be different every single day for you. Yeah,
there's um it's funny that you asked that because I
was listening to one of your podcast with Fred the
mail Man, and I was listening to him talk about
some times days he's playing Xbox and other days he's
just like fried and he just has to get away
(36:52):
for a few days. And that's me often too, because
I can't stay motivate it all the time. And if
you can, you're super human. It's very rare. Yeah, because
it's my brain, especially looking at a computer all day,
gets fried pretty quickly. So I try to get out,
just walk around, get my head into a video game
(37:15):
to get out of my mind. So every day is different,
and I have a new puppy, so that makes it
even more challenging. What's puppy's name, Jonah Jonah. He's adorable.
He's upstairs right now because I know he'll be too loud,
but it's uh no. I wake up about five thirty
six o'clock, just get my day started, just get organized
before anybody else wakes up. But I'll go sometimes until
(37:37):
nine o'clock, ten o'clock, just whatever it calls. For Some
days it's really early and it's very nice, but other
days I'm super busy and I'm barely sleeping. Your own
business life really is what it is at this point.
Um when you were when did you officially make Seed
(37:58):
Technologies seed technolo gez? Like when was that? Okay, this
is now the company in In February, I was working
my nine to five still and I had to go
out to California for a job with them. I had
to go for some deal office or something I can't
even remember. Uh, and that's where my now partner lives.
(38:20):
He would live in l A. I was forty minutes
out and I stayed the weekend, and when I stayed
the weekend with him, I wouldn't shut up about this company.
And I said, look, man, I know we can do
this together, and I'm not going to leave you alone
until you give me like a positive answering. It's like,
all right, i'll think about it. I'll think about it.
I'll think about it, okay, And I just wouldn't let
it go. When I got home. You're very persistent, called him,
(38:43):
and I am very persistent interviews. Yeah, I see that. Yeah, No,
I try not to let anything get me down. So
when I got back, I gave him a call and
I said, so, what do you think. It's only been
a day. What do you think? And he's like, you
know what, I think. I'm gonna do it with you.
And then a couple of weeks later, I was talking
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to my friend's mom who's an accountant, and we were
getting all the paperwork together and I called him on
conference call blindly with her on there, and I said, so,
I got the accountant on the phone, we're gonna do this,
and he's like, all right, let's do it. I love
that it's pressuring people. Is how you've you've succeeded if
if you don't ask, it's never gonna happen. Then if
(39:26):
you give up, it's never gonna happen. You're right, You're
so right. So it hasn't even been two years. Really officially,
I guess it hasn't even been two years. March was
the day that we went live. That's cool. Look at
that and you're crashing it. It's it's been really cool.
I mean, I guess now I've known you since I
was what twenty guess twenty we were both twenty two
(39:47):
years old. It was literally when I first started at Elvis.
I guess I probably quote unquote met you and Fred
the Mailman around the same time because of social media,
because of technology, and here we are now. It's really
cool that I don't know, like stepping back for a
moment full certain not even full circle, just the fact
that where my job has taken me with radio, and
(40:08):
I've got to meet strangers who have become friends because
of the Internet, and I've got to see them grow
from not even meeting them and seeing what you've done.
It's been super cool. So thanks for I guess sharing
that with me and without realizing you're doing it, but
thank you. It's been awesome. Oh yeah, no, definitely and
same here like watching you grow and where you've got
(40:29):
to today. Like you mentioned in it in your first
intro for this podcast, I don't know if I have
a or a side hustle. You definitely have like a
bunch of side hustles, and I don't think you realize
it because you've been crushing it ever since you've got there. Well,
thank you very much. I appreciate that. I really really do.
And it's been awesome talking to you, and I have
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a very good feeling Matt, that we are going to
work together on I'm going to be hiring you at
some point. Did you help me out with something? And
I can't wait. Maybe it'll be like my first official
hillside hustle. You're gonna have to help me get it
off the ground. I'll be here to help. And it's
gonna be like a puppy store with ice cream, and
that's what it's gonna be. Come get ice cream and
play with puppies. That is my my dream. That would
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be a great thing to build. I would be totally
for that. So if people want to find you, it's
seed l l C dot net. And is there any
social that they can find you guys onto. Yeah, Facebook
is our main one messenger has been a hit for us,
so you can message us on Facebook at seed tech
help one word seed tech and seed is s e
(41:33):
e ed in case for at any point you weren't
sure what the hell we're saying, that's what it is.
So Matt, thank you so much. I appreciate you sharing
your badass nous with us and and teaching us a
whole new world that I don't think a lot of
us knew existed. So thank you, no, thank you for
having me. This has been a blast. Okay, right now,
it's just me ditched Matt. This is after the podcast
has been recorded. I'm about to post it, but he
(41:55):
did send me a text saying he wishes he mentioned
something in the podcast, so I figured i'd added in.
This is a story directly from Matt. One of my
best training experiences was teaching a woman who was deaf
how to use I movie. I don't know sign language,
but using FaceTime on an iPad and headphones, I was
able to talk with a sign language translator while she
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was able to understand my instructions from looking at the iPad.
It was awesome. To be able to help someone understand
a complex program to unlock this creative drive, no differently
than anyone else. I'm actually really excited he shared that story.
So Matt, thank you very much for texting me that.
And again you can always tweet me, Instagram, Facebook, all
of it get. I mean, if you have any questions
(42:38):
about side hustlers, it's at the Carla Murray
For a lot of people. You know, why are you wait?
Do you know what you want to do? And this
is what you want to do, and do it. I'm
a hustle side side hustle. Do it. I'm a hustlesd
side hustlo do it. I'm a hustle side slow. I'm
a hustle side side slow. I'm a hustle, a side
side hustler. Come on ask about me, yo yo. It's
(00:24):
the Side Hustless podcast. We call the RT. Yes, this
is Garla Marie and this is my side Hustlers podcast.
And that guy that was doing that awesome intro, he
put that whole thing together. That is my friend Ronnie.
He was on one of my episodes of Side Hustlers
and I talked about this last week. But he has
since moved away from Elbaston in the Morning show and
(00:46):
moved to Washington, d C. To work for NPR and
I've been following him on Instagram and seeing his new
life and it's so cool. You can check him out
at bald Freak Music to find him. And I'm really
a fan of doing these weekly update with everyone and
it's crazy that there's actually something to talk about every week.
Especially after last week. I had all these updates from
(01:07):
awesome side hustlers, but the latest is super cool. So
Valley and Rose Flower Truck. I told you she gave
her two weeks at her job so she can flower
truck it every day. Well, she teamed up with Chalk Boss.
We had Katie and Chalk Boss did the side of
the flower truck. It looks incredible. You can check it
out on Instagram at Valian Rose Flower Truck or at
(01:29):
Chalk Boss. So freaking cool. I know. Joke teared up
when I saw their collaboration. And uh, I'll talk about
this a little later, but coming soon, I'm gonna do
a meet up with a bunch of these badass people
and I can't wait to share more about that. But
I also told you that last weekend I was doing
a photo shoot with Andrea Michelle. Now she was on
(01:50):
the podcast. Her instagram is at Andrea Michelle Photo. So
we did our photo shoot and it was awesome. But
she also did a photo shoot with Andrew Coleman Smith,
who was also on this podcast. So many things going on.
This is so freaking cool to me how everyone is
linking up. But she did a photo shoot with him
because Andrew who was who is a YouTuber and has
(02:12):
a YouTube series, just launched his own line of merch.
I've got one of the shirts. It says fat Tuesday,
because that is the name of his series. It's so
cool to see this, to see people grow and even
people who have already stepped out of their comfort zone
doing it even more so. Go check came out on Instagram.
It's at Andrew Cole Smith. Okay, so today I am
(02:33):
joined by Matt Oliva. So Hi Matt. First of all,
good morning, how are you doing. So we've known each
other for quote unquote, known each other for what is
it now, probably eight seven years? Maybe, yeah, pretty much,
but this is our first time at least face to
face FaceTime anyway. But we've talked on the phone because
you used to call in to Elvis's show or you
(02:54):
would message on Facebook or Instagram and I would get
you on the air and I was answering the phones
for the show. So we've known each other for years
at this point, and when you reached out, I was like,
oh my god, yeah, this is so cool. We can
actually have a conversation and I would love to hear
about your side hustle because yours is so different than
everyone so far. I'm also excited to have another guy
(03:15):
on because the ladies have been kicking ass. I just
want to say, they've been showing up. So you're here
to represent the guys in their side hustles. UM. So,
your side hustle is called Seed Technologies, and I had
to kind of have you explain it to me twice
because the first time I was like, wait, what explain this?
I didn't even know this existed so briefly, and we're
gonna get into it more. I want you to explain
(03:36):
to everyone listening what exactly See Technologies is. So again,
thanks for having me and awesome, great opportunity. What we
do we do a lot. Like I said, we've grown
since we first started. We started off as tech support
for local businesses in the area, training people like just
helping everyday people like a grandma with an iPhone and
(03:58):
just helping there get your to it. But today we're
doing a lot more. We're helping businesses get off the ground,
we're helping them get online, start e commerce. It's it's
pretty insane. I didn't think we would get to this
point and we're only in year two. So we're a
tech consulting company. To make it brief. So you right now,
I'm looking where you're Are you at home in your
(04:20):
room right now talking to me? Is that also your office? Yes?
It is? Okay, I love it. So let's go back,
because I think everyone's going to find what you do
very very interesting. And like I said, I'm so intrigued
by the fact that this is even a thing, and
I love it so much. And there's like a phil
philanthropic side of what you do that I love even more.
(04:41):
But this was a side hustle. So let's go back
to when this first started, or when the idea started.
What was your regular nine to five at the time
when this first started. I was working at Verizon. When
I got the first idea, I was teaching people and
I was helping people on the side. They would just
come up to me, Hey, can you teach me how
to do this? Can help me? I want to take
(05:01):
you home? Was the most thing I was told often.
Then I started to work at Apple. Off of a
bet and I got that bet and I got there
time out. What do you mean let's talk about off
of a bet? What does that mean? So it was
just a coworker, and somebody was just saying, I bet
you can't work at Apple, like I bet you wouldn't
get the job. And it took a long time. It
(05:22):
took twelve interviewers and two years to get there. Just
a lot of pushing forward, not giving up with that job.
So was your you know, with the bet you were gonna, oh,
I got offered a job at Apple and then not
take it, or were you actually going to get offered
the job? And your goal was to take this job.
My goal was to take that, okay, and you did. So. Yeah.
There was always a dream to see if I could
(05:44):
get in there. I tried working there when I was
what thirteen, and obviously I was way too young, so
I came back at sixteen. Still wouldn't let me in.
Um so I finally got it. I think I was
nineteen twenty at the time. I could be a little
wrong on that. I it was a while ago, but
I was working there and people just again, wow, you
really know your stuff. This is great reaching out to
(06:07):
me on the side. And then I lost my job
at Apple. So I figured I'm just gonna do this
and figure it out on my own, Okay. So you
bring up a few things. One is that a lot
of people talk about I lost my job then I
started my side hustle. Do you think there's something to
be said for losing a job and kicking it off,
or do you wish that you started before you lost
(06:28):
the job. I kind of started before I lost at
the job, but it was just more of a pipe
dream and I was just doing random things. I probably
started this maybe six times before something caught. So, uh, yeah,
I wish I started it more aggressively before. But I'm
glad when I lost it, it kicked me off, all right,
(06:48):
So good to know. So anyone who's working right now
thinking I want to start it, I want to start it.
Just do it. That I guess that is like the
best advice everyone has given us is as simple as
it is, is just do it. But you talked about
how you went through twelve interviews. Were those twelve failed interviews?
Or Okay, now here's the next round, and how did
that go? It was here's the next round, fail, here's
(07:09):
the next round, failed, back and forth, and then just
a long period of nothing. So I eventually got fed
up and I walked into the store and I just
said can I please speak to a manager, like, I
just want to know. Am I gonna get hired? Am
I not? Am I in the middle of something? Uh?
And he came out and told me I've never seen
(07:30):
you before, I've never heard of your name, nothing. But
he was three months in New so he said, I
appreciate how aggressive you are, so I'm going to give
you a shot. That could have gone either way though.
That could have been like mall security taking you out. Yeah.
I wasn't jumping in there demanding to speak to somebody.
But I got lucky because typically they don't even do
(07:51):
that for anybody. But I got through and I got
an interview from two other managers on the spot. And
then he came back and he said, you know what, uh,
I really like you. We talked a little longer and said,
I'm going to give you a shot. Here, you have
one more interview, just show up. Job. Yeah, so you
were hired as what they called it an FRS or
(08:14):
a family room specialist. So my job was anything related
to iPhones at the time, and this was like iPhone four,
iPhone three still yeah, exactly nowadays, any iPods, any iPads.
When I first came out, so like the family room,
so families. My other job was fixing them, training people
(08:35):
on how to use them and group classes, which was
really cool. So it was a really cool experience to
get hands on with people and right in the face
to face and they were all happy to see me. First,
What Apple did you work at? It was in Rockaway
in New Jersey. Cool at the mall or is it?
I'm just curious anyone's listening if they said, oh my god,
(08:56):
I've been to that one and it's really cool. Maybe
helped them. So the Apple in Rockaway, New Jersey. And
where are you right now? By the way, I didn't
even say where do you live? Where do you come from?
I'm in sweet in New Jersey, coast to coast right now.
I love it. And you mentioned that you were ninety
when you got hired at Apple. How will you now?
I am? You just hear? Yeah, that's right, we're the
same ames. That's right. Thirties pretty awesome, right. I told
(09:19):
you it wasn't going to be the bed. Yeah, I'm
I'm been looking at it more of all. Right, I
think I got my ship together. Let's try it again
in this decade. Exactly. That is exactly how I've been
looking at it too. Okay, so seed Technologies. First of all,
what is the name and where does the name come from?
Like I said, we tried a few times with other names.
One of the names that was gonna stick was Core
(09:41):
and the whole idea was we're going to teach her
from the core, from the inside out. And then it
just wasn't sticking. So a friend of mine, Joe, and
I were actually driving down the road just talking about it,
and he said, how about seed because you can plant
the seed, teach somebody and it'll grow. Said you know what,
I kind of like idea. Let's go with it, and
that's pretty legit. Yeah, good idea. So you do have
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people working for you now, so a lot of the
side hustlers I talked to, it's just them doing all
of it. Was it ever just you really hustling trying
to do this. Yeah, for the first maybe, well the
whole time until last year actually it was all just me. Wow.
And then how did you get this collection of people?
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Because there's six of you totaled, now there is five.
You're not sure. You had to look down there's so
many of you. Yeah, my first person that came on
board with me, and I've had other people on board
on and off, but like you know, people that are
just coming in contacting, just looking for some sidecash whatever
I can help a friend with of course, But the
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one that got into it with me is Sam Sweynos.
He was my ex band mate back right after high school.
So we worked really well together in a band that
if you can do that, you can get through anything exactly.
So when you say you told me you've got people
from coast to coast, New Jersey and California working, how
do you guys get yourselves out there to say, hey,
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we do this, Welcome to your home, or we'll help
your business, or we'll teach you technology. How do you
tell people that? Because the whole idea of hey, I'm
gonna come over and teach you technology kind of sounds creepy. Yeah,
now again it's it's inviting a stranger into your house. Actually,
But the nice thing about it is from from working
at those retail jobs. So many people coming out, like
(11:34):
I said before, they keep inviting me into their home
because it's convenience. So when you can make somebody feel
comfortable and get into their home, they feel great about that.
But for right now, it's been word of mouth. Until
the past year, we've been using social media to get
out there more. Um, but even word of mouth between
(11:54):
my teammates, just spreading the word on the other coast. Uh.
And it's been kind of crazy of the opportunities we've
been handed so far. Well, one of the first things
I said to you when you explained to me what
you do in an email, was, oh, my god, can
I send you to my parents, because so many of
us get so unbelievably frustrated trying to help our parents.
(12:16):
And maybe it's because we're not getting paid to do it,
but but we do get very frustrated with it's everything
from the remote to trying to teach them that they
need to remember their apple I D. Because it's just
torture trying to get back in. So what is that
I'm assuming you do work with some older people and
obviously younger people too, But what are some of the
simplest things you've had to help people with? Uh? Well, first,
(12:40):
my parents are saying I have no patience with them,
but anybody else, I'm like, okay, same. The most basic,
turning a phone on, answering a phone call, turning a
printer on okay, resetting something. Okay, printers are actually like
kind of hard to use. Sometimes they're just to paint
in the apple lot. Okay, I will do that. Love
(13:03):
scanners and god, why do we even have these things anymore?
I feel like there should be something better. So, yeah,
I use my phone for scanning. It's much easier, like
the Times. Do you have what app do you use
um for scanning? Yeah, it's built into my phone, actually
into the iPhone. Notes like you're just going too there
and hit scanned document. Oh see, I use camp scanner.
(13:23):
Now I'm learning something different, thank god, And I use that. Okay, good,
I'm loving this. I'm actually learning things in this podcast too.
Can you please come teach me Aparely there's things about
my iPhone that I don't even know. That's uh, that's
my niche. The iPhone and Mac are like my top
thing that I know. So you said something to me
when I told you we were going to face time.
You said, I'm using a beta version of whatever. It
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may not be able to work. Is that? Like, why
do you even what do you do? You test things beforehand?
How does all of that work? Yeah? I've been doing
this ever since they gave me the opportunity, and you
have to be a developer. I'm not. But you can
download the test software that's coming out in the fall.
Uh Now they have a public beta, so anybody can
do it. But the whole point of it is so
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I can learn all the new features in the summer
before it comes out in the fall, so I have
a step ahead of the game. So if something breaks,
I already know how to fix it. Right. So when
we're or when we're all freaking out, like how do
I do this? How do I do that? You know
the answer to the question, yeah, because it happens with
every big update, something big changed or something new, or
how do I do this? So you talked about going
to people's homes and helping them one on one, which
(14:30):
is awesome because learning new technology can be very frustrating
no matter how old you are. But something you brought
up is how mom and pop shops in places like
New Jersey and not big cities like New York or
Seattle are losing businesses because they're not adapting to technology.
And one of the things you brought up is square
and square is this I guess little contraption that can
attach to your iPhone or iPad, and it's what helps
(14:54):
smaller businesses swipe your credit card. You know. It's not
like when you're going to a big Walmarter Target, I've
say they have a big built in system, but these
smaller stores don't have that. And you said small businesses
are actually losing business because of this, Yes, so yeah,
and I'm seeing it more and more pop up. I
think I told you the story. The first time I
saw it, I was out in some college I can't
(15:17):
even remember where it was, someplace in p A and uh,
it was like after everybody goes out, so it's one
in the morning and there's this girl on the sidewalk
selling hot dogs, uh, using a square reader. So it's
just her and a guy and hot dogs. And I
was like, more people should do this. Why don't people
do this? Because she's making bank from drunk people that
(15:42):
late at night on a corner by a bar, from
an app and that's amazing. So yeah, more people should,
uh you know, take to this. So I'm trying to
help mom and pop sub places like Delhi's Pizzeria's. Uh
it's getting pretty cool, but in our area especially not
very popular yet. But like in Seattle, no matter where
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I go, that is literally how I pay for everything.
You see them just poop on the little iPad or
even some department stores. Now I'm assuming it's probably not square.
It's probably their their own thing. But they can swipe
or check you out from literally the middle of the store,
in between clothing racks using a phone. It's crazy. So
these small businesses, though, who aren't adapting. You said, it's
(16:25):
kind of like killing them because they're not adapting to technology.
So do you go into a store and say, hey,
I can help you, Like, how do you approach someone
like that? It's always weird approaching somebody, especially in the
older generation, because their mind is if it's not broken,
I don't need to fix it. They don't know what exactly,
and it's I tell them. I try to make them
(16:45):
understand it's a revenue that you're missing out on. It's
just more customers. Why wouldn't you want more business? Like
kids are aging, younger are paying with their phones, their watches,
they're paying with apps. If if you can't accept that current, see,
they're just gonna miss out. I don't I don't know
about you, but I don't carry that much capine the day.
(17:07):
So are these small businesses not accepting credit cards at all?
Are they just not using a newer system, not using
the newer system? Uh, they're using old credit card transactions,
and a lot of them are stuck into contracts, so
it's hard to even get them to want to talk
out of it. So if someone say, lives in Kansas
right now and they're listening to this and they've got
(17:27):
a small business and they want you to help them,
can you help them without physically being there to an extent,
I fly out no matter what if I have to.
Oh yeah, if I have to, I'm going to show up.
That's just the nature of the business, at least to
start everything. But once we get everything started and hooked up,
it can be remote from there. And of course if
(17:48):
they want us to come out, we can. No big deal.
But we just did it for our client out in
l A a a couple of months ago, just to help
them get off the ground. I was out there for
a week, came back and we're good to go. And
that's awesome. So if anyone wants to check you out,
it's seed llc dot net right Yes, Okay, So if
you guys want to check out Matt and and his
Are they your coworkers and employees? What would you call them?
(18:12):
More teammates, teammates, fellow entrepreneurs. It's cool. So, yeah, you
this started as your side hustle, but the other people
working for you this is still their side hustle, and
you're kind of just this is all you're doing now,
which is awesome, But what other things are those people
doing that this is their side hustle? Ah, So I
(18:33):
mentioned Sam. He's an actor on the side and that's
his big dream, his big side hustle that he does.
He's always running around, he's always on the road, but
his main job is a financial analyst. It's crazy, that's exactly.
That's his nine to five and he traveled all around
for it. But he makes time for everything, including my thing.
(18:53):
And he is my he's my director of operations, so
like he runs, he's the numbers guy. He's all that
at So he's got a lot on his plate and
he manages it beautifully. And he wants to be an
actor though, yes, that's his main that's his main goal.
Is that is wild and yeah, he's been in some
big commercials and stuff like that, and small indie films.
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So and he also helps out one of our other
team members with their production company. Okay, so then you've
got someone who does this and has a production company. Yes,
so her name is Teresa. She's also a producer. That's
her nine to five. Um, And like I said, she
owns her own production company, and she does our research
(19:36):
and like our presentations and puts all our info together
for us. So, like she's always running around as well.
It's so crazy to think that you've your side hustle
has turned into other people's side hustles and those people
also have more side hustles. Yeah, it's We're a group
of NonStop people. It's insane. Is there anyone else that's
(19:57):
got crazy? This is what? Um, there's more. Yeah, Casey,
he's our graphic designer. He also does I don't know
what the right terminology for it, but he does graphic
design and digital stuff digital marketing. Digital stuff is actually
the correct term for the rest of the world other
than digital people. That's that's a good point. Uh. He
(20:20):
does that for his nine to five. He has his
own clothing brand company that that's his main side hustle.
So he helps us out with like websites and graphic
design and videos and photoshop and all that jazz. Do
you know that? Do you know the name of his
clothing company? Can we shout him out? Oh? Yes, Stranded
Adventure Company. Stranded Adventure Company. All right, I'm gonna actually
have to. Maybe we'll get him on the podcast. I
(20:41):
love this. This is so fun. Okay, Stranded Adventure Company.
All right. So this is like a side hustler web
that I'm now called in. Let me go back a
little bit now. You mentioned to me you had a
brief volunteering time in a hospital. How did that happen? Like,
how did you get to the hospital to say, hey,
I will teach everyone here how to use their phones
or whatever you did? Like, what was the beginning step
(21:01):
of that? Yeah, so for a little bit after I
quit my full time job. Uh, this obviously wasn't full
full not yet. We weren't there yet. So I needed
some other side money. So I was doing lift for
a couple of weeks just to get some cash in.
And one of my last rides on one of my
first days was this older gentleman, Jim, And he has
(21:26):
cancer like crazy, and I feel terrible for the guy,
and I was bringing him to a cancer treatment, a
radiation treatment in Marstown, and uh, on the way there,
he said, you know, I'm looking for somebody that I
could trust, that is a good person that can just
help me get back and forth and get some errands done.
And I thought about it for a few days, and uh,
(21:49):
I found some time to do it, and so I
I help him. So I've been going to the hospital often,
like every day, this poor guy for about an hour
and a half. So when I'm nail that not right
now because he's on like treatment breaking until he goes
back for chemo. Wow, so soon I'll be back there. Um.
(22:10):
So whenever I'm there, I'm just sitting there and just
listening in and I hear a lot of the staff,
most of them being volunteers themselves, struggling with their phone,
and I just overhear him. So I just kindly interrupt
and say, hey, you know, I can help you with
that if you need. Like, I'm here, I'm not doing
anything else. So I'll sit down with them and I'll
just patiently go over it with them, and they love it.
(22:32):
That's crazy. Yeah, it's uh, like I said, anybody that
I can see struggling. I want to help him out.
There's I feel like I have so many things out
of this story. Not only do you just overhear people
complaining about technology, which I feel like you can literally
go anywhere and hear that and you help them, but
the fact that you started doing this for this guy,
like you have no idea the impact I think that
(22:54):
you've probably made on his life. No, they tell me
every time, and I'm every day and I'm just it's
no big deal to me. It's a few hours. I
don't mind at all. Yeah, but it's awesome and especially
for someone older who probably thinks our generation is a
bunch of crap, you're you're doing good for the rest
of us. So thank you. So what, um, I guess
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are there specific businesses or types of businesses or people
or stores that you've kind of helped launch or stories
that you can tell us about what Seed Technologies has
done that we can kind of share with everybody. So
we have two clients that are like our our big
deal right now. We have a big one in New Jersey. Uh,
that's east Side Bulk. They're trucking a material company. We
(23:38):
help them just start their entire office. We help the
owner just get everything set up. All of his back
end stuff went in installed, the servers, set up, all
the computers, helped the people use the materials and stuff.
We actually did a photo shoot of his material specifically
for him. When you say his materials like trucking, this
(24:00):
like designer rocks and sand and stuff like that. But
we wanted to make sure that his stuff looked great.
A so you built his website. Yes, okay, So you
literally went in there and basically may obviously, this person
has their business, this company has their business. But if
you didn't go in there and do all the things
(24:21):
you did, know one would know it existed in this
world that we live in now. Yes, wow, yeah, that,
which is pretty crazy when you put it like that. Yeah,
it's true. I mean that. And on top of the whole,
there's all these systems that go on in the background
of every business that we don't even think about. It
just happens I slip my credit card, or this computer
pops up, or this is how I search for books
(24:42):
and Barnes and Noble at the store. If you happen
to be still buying books in the store, you don't
realize that there's this whole system that a human probably
set up, and that's what Seed Technologies does. So you
basically started this person's entire trucking company. Well, I mean
he started, Yeah, I found him. Actually he found me
years ago when I was just putting ads on Facebook.
(25:04):
Hey I can fix your computer stuff, and he reached
out to me. So I fixed his computer years ago
and he said, hey, I'm running a bit or i'm
starting a business. Can you help me out? And just
went from there. So again, just helping somebody in need
turned into that opportunity. It's amazing. So what other Because
I was on your website actually see LLC dot net
and I saw that you had a little feature for them,
(25:26):
which was pretty cool. But what other big clients have
you launched or are you working with now? Another one
is called ASP and Company. So they do home decre
handmade home to core, handmade pillows, scarves. They also make
candles like just out of natural material. Well I'm just sapping.
And the fact that you went from trucking company to
(25:48):
hand meet pillows and candles. I love this. Yeah, we
help anybody, so like no dream too is too small
for anybody. Like if you have an idea, we can
make it work. This is oh cool, which is super
helpful because the people that listen to this podcast are
often people that want to start aside hustle or I've
got a ton of people that I've talked to in
this podcast that would probably love to go to you
(26:10):
for help with their their own business. We're gonna need
you to come out to Seattle because a lot of
them are out here. We'll just have you like a
full week of launching businesses. I can do that, all right, sweet?
So what was the name of that company? The home
company Company? How it's pronounced Okay, that's awesome. Yeah, they
(26:31):
it's for women that own this company. One of them
is the daughter of Sydney Pointier A. Nika is the
one that we work with. It's his daughter and she's
the name and the face behind this company. So it's
pretty insane because I was telling you before, never just
it never struck to me. And he's a famous actor. Yeah,
(26:54):
he's he's the first black actor to win an Academy Award.
That I was like, I know the name this year
and I feel like was a lot a lot of
the award shows this year we kept hearing that, Um,
how did you realize it was his daughter. My business
partner told me, like, we were just we were having
a meeting the other night and it just came up
and I was like, wait what I kind of knew,
but it never clicked. So it was just insane, like
(27:16):
helping somebody that big and were this small, you know
what I mean, Like just a kid out of hopack
On in New Jersey and there we're helping them. That's
mind blowing to me. Yeah, it's cool, it's cool, and
you don't You've obviously started something that people need, which
is something when people are listening to this podcast and
they have all these thoughts and ideas a lot of
(27:38):
times they think, well, what do people need? And that's
where you find your niche and you run with it.
If it's something you actually care about and you're passionate about,
that's a win win because it's gonna be awesome. Yeah,
and people infinitely people need this. I mean, look at
how fast technology changes and how fast it's kind of
smacked us in the face. If you don't keep up,
you're just gonna get knocked over and the rest of
(27:58):
the world is gonna keep going without you. Seed Technologies
is something that I think a lot of us may
not realize we need or a lot of these companies
may think, Oh, I can do it on my own.
I'm not dumb. It doesn't mean you're dumb. Well, there's
a hell of a lot of information out there that
we don't know about as normal people, and you smart
people can help us. Yeah, exactly. That's That's what I
(28:19):
like to tell people a lot. There's no dumb question,
just you don't know the answer, and that's okay. Somebody
has to know it. So why struggle yourself when you
have somebody that's patient and kind that can help. Yeah,
because it's not me. So that's why I'm black. You're
here to do that. Where do you see seed technologies going? Like,
what is the future? Do you have an idea? You're
(28:41):
just you know what, I want to keep picking up
more clients or do you want to one day have
a storefront where people get to come in with their
phones and say help me, I need help? But what
is the plan? You know? I keep thinking about it
and it's a daydream at the same time, because it's
still so surreal that I'm here doing this, Like I
just mind blowing. So I joke with my partner all
(29:02):
the time. You know, we're gonna have we're gonna have
an office out on the beach over there, and then
we're gonna have a big corporate office over here, and
like we're gonna have a store over there. So it's
it's still a mixed dream right now. I'm just going
with the flow. Whatever whatever happens happens, because again, last
year I had one idea for where this was going
to go, and the people that came on board shifted
(29:25):
it in a great way. And now we're doing some
incredible things that I didn't even think we're possible from me. So, uh,
I don't know how to answer that. No, that's fine,
and listen when you're the next Jeff Aesos though, don't
forget about me. You know the first person who got
you on the radio when you called in, that would
be me. Okay, you don't have to worry about that.
(29:48):
I will be knocking on your door, like Matt, do
you remember me if I can't even get to your gate,
because you're totally going to be like Jeff beesos. Um. So,
one thing I like to ask everyone is, and I
guess your situation is is crazy because you've kind of
been in the world of technology. A lot of people
that I talked to, are you do in a nine
to five that's completely different in there? Like I'm getting
(30:10):
hoti here and I'm starting a flower truck or whatever
it is. Who I've talked to, Has there ever been
anyone in your life that's like, Matt, you're dumb. You
can't start your own company to help people? Yeah, Planny,
I I hear it, even even to today, people that
are just telling me it's never gonna work, Like you're
not going to get that far. Who are these people?
(30:30):
Is my question every time, Like, who are you to
crap on somebody's dream? Terrible people, that's who they are. Like,
I don't need to hear that. No, I'm not trying
to do it to impress anybody. This is what I
want to do because I love doing it. And if
you're not doing something that you love, what's the point.
It sounds like these are probably Jersey people. A lot
of you would know, you know the attitude, it's true,
(30:52):
and I don't know what it is. And this is
going to get a little bit away from um sid
hustlers for a second. But moving out to the West,
coast has been refreshing in that sense of you could say, oh,
everybody's happy all the time. It's not that. Something about
New York and New Jersey it's so cut throat that
if you're not doing it, then it's stupid and you
(31:13):
need to bring it down. We're out here. It's Oh
my god, that's so cool. I want to help you,
I want to support you. Oh you're not living in
your parents basement, and that's cool because in New Jersey
it is so our parents are so like, we don't
want you to grow, we don't want you to leave.
And I actually read this in Uh, I think it's
You're a Badass with Jensen Sarah. She talks about Italian
mothers and how it's like this Italian mother syndrome and
(31:36):
the mom doesn't want you to leave, so they kind
of bring you down and make sure you stay in
their little bubble and not and not grow up. And
that's literally all of New Jersey. And no offense to
every anyone from New Jersey listening. If I offended you,
I'm not sorry. It's the truth. But but it's so crazy.
Why And I've noticed that most of the side Hustle's
life scene are not all East Coast people. It's a
(31:58):
lot of West Coast and other cities because these people
have passions and they're not afraid to follow because they
don't have people around them beating them down. So congrats
to you on doing it with all those people around you. Yeah,
thank you, because it is quite annoying to be honest,
to hear it over and over. But it's very pleasing
to be successful where I am today and just be like, man,
(32:20):
it doesn't matter what you say, like I really don't care,
I don't have time anymore. It's true. It makes success
that much sweeter that you can be like, remember when
you said this wasn't gonna work. Look what I just said,
shut your mouth. Yep. And I always said it's so cheesy,
but let your haters be your motivators. Keep doing it
because at the end of the day, they're going to
be the ones miserable stuck in some job that they
(32:41):
hate because they were too scared to do it. And
that's not you exactly or your your teammates. Because that's awesome. Um,
I feel like this question is gonna be a little
different for you than anyone else. But what apps do
you use that kind of help out with your job.
And I always say, other than Instagram, I feel like
Instagram is not really anything that you know, everybody uses Instagram,
(33:03):
that's just and you know, it's so hard for me
to use Instagram because I don't have like flashy things,
so I have to talk about it, which is fine.
But cutting Instagram out. A life changer for me has
been Slack because I have to work with my teammates.
Slack is like dream come true because I hate email,
like I'll do it, but I try to make it
(33:25):
like important, like I'm actually writing a letter to somebody.
Slack is like am in today's future. Yeah, it's kind
of like taking group messaging, group texting and emails and
making it simpler, but taking the text side away from
it and making it a little more formal. I guess
I have Slack. I have no reason to use it
(33:46):
in the world that I'm in, which sucks because everyone
always all my friends who are work for big companies
or small companies say oh, I love Slack, and I'm like,
I want to play. I want to use Slack too.
I might. I might start Slack. For everyone who has
been on this podcast asked just so that would be
a good idea because then you have everybody working together,
and like everybody that's been on here so far are
(34:08):
incredible people because they've been going nuts to do whatever
they want to do and they're not letting anybody stop them.
That's a good group of people to be in. It's true.
And side note and a little I guess foreshadowing. I
am kind of building a group and you'll be finding
out about it soon. We're going to try to do
meetups although you live on the other side of the country.
I will try to put them all over. But seriously,
it's true, and I guess we can start it with
(34:29):
something like Slack. That would be awesome. And then when
I need to build a website or a company, I'm
just gonna go to you and be like, help, how
do I get all these people to talk to each other?
Thanks Matt very much. UM, are there any other apps
to use? Because I feel like you probably have about
fifty of them that you could tell us. Another one
that I use If you use Gmail, which everybody does
(34:50):
pretty much. UM, we use their g suite, which is fantastic. Uh.
G suite is the It's really how me and my
team gets to work together because it's all in the cloud.
It's like our file storage. We have our presentations or documents.
We have a meeting tool which is great and it
looks super professional because we can dial in with like
(35:11):
like you can call me from the phone and get
into this nice meeting. So it's it's very helpful for
us being so far away to use that. Uh. And
one more is inbox by Gmail, which is why I
brought them up. In boxes like the best way to
look at your email because I don't know about you.
I get a lot of emails and I'm sure you
(35:31):
do too. Inbox makes it so organized and let's you
kind of like say, all right, I'm done with these,
so I don't have to have a bi jillion emails
in my inbox. Or if something comes up, you can
sneerze it so if I don't have time to deal
with it right now, bring it back to me next
by weekend. Okay. So you use the Gmail app rather
(35:51):
than the regular, say Safari email app I use. I
don't even use gmails called inbox inbox so it's not
but is it a Gmail app? Is it a Google app? So?
And it takes all your emails so even if I
have like an Outlook email address from my heart radio,
I can put it in there. It should work. Don't
(36:11):
quote me on that one. Hey, you're supposed to know.
That's one of the few that I don't. I think
it only works with Gmail, to be honest. Okay, okay,
fair enough, fair enough, But that's cool. Al Right. So Inbox,
g Suite, and Slack. Yes, those are my my top
three because without them might be dead. Wow. Alright, good
to know, Good to know. So I do have a question, though,
(36:32):
what is your day to day like? I mean, it's
got to be different every single day for you. Yeah,
there's um it's funny that you asked that because I
was listening to one of your podcast with Fred the
mail Man, and I was listening to him talk about
some times days he's playing Xbox and other days he's
just like fried and he just has to get away
(36:52):
for a few days. And that's me often too, because
I can't stay motivate it all the time. And if
you can, you're super human. It's very rare. Yeah, because
it's my brain, especially looking at a computer all day,
gets fried pretty quickly. So I try to get out,
just walk around, get my head into a video game
(37:15):
to get out of my mind. So every day is different,
and I have a new puppy, so that makes it
even more challenging. What's puppy's name, Jonah Jonah. He's adorable.
He's upstairs right now because I know he'll be too loud,
but it's uh no. I wake up about five thirty
six o'clock, just get my day started, just get organized
before anybody else wakes up. But I'll go sometimes until
(37:37):
nine o'clock, ten o'clock, just whatever it calls. For Some
days it's really early and it's very nice, but other
days I'm super busy and I'm barely sleeping. Your own
business life really is what it is at this point.
Um when you were when did you officially make Seed
(37:58):
Technologies seed technolo gez? Like when was that? Okay, this
is now the company in In February, I was working
my nine to five still and I had to go
out to California for a job with them. I had
to go for some deal office or something I can't
even remember. Uh, and that's where my now partner lives.
(38:20):
He would live in l A. I was forty minutes
out and I stayed the weekend, and when I stayed
the weekend with him, I wouldn't shut up about this company.
And I said, look, man, I know we can do
this together, and I'm not going to leave you alone
until you give me like a positive answering. It's like,
all right, i'll think about it. I'll think about it.
I'll think about it, okay, And I just wouldn't let
it go. When I got home. You're very persistent, called him,
(38:43):
and I am very persistent interviews. Yeah, I see that. Yeah, No,
I try not to let anything get me down. So
when I got back, I gave him a call and
I said, so, what do you think. It's only been
a day. What do you think? And he's like, you
know what, I think. I'm gonna do it with you.
And then a couple of weeks later, I was talking
(39:06):
to my friend's mom who's an accountant, and we were
getting all the paperwork together and I called him on
conference call blindly with her on there, and I said, so,
I got the accountant on the phone, we're gonna do this,
and he's like, all right, let's do it. I love
that it's pressuring people. Is how you've you've succeeded if
if you don't ask, it's never gonna happen. Then if
(39:26):
you give up, it's never gonna happen. You're right, You're
so right. So it hasn't even been two years. Really officially,
I guess it hasn't even been two years. March was
the day that we went live. That's cool. Look at
that and you're crashing it. It's it's been really cool.
I mean, I guess now I've known you since I
was what twenty guess twenty we were both twenty two
(39:47):
years old. It was literally when I first started at Elvis.
I guess I probably quote unquote met you and Fred
the Mailman around the same time because of social media,
because of technology, and here we are now. It's really
cool that I don't know, like stepping back for a
moment full certain not even full circle, just the fact
that where my job has taken me with radio, and
(40:08):
I've got to meet strangers who have become friends because
of the Internet, and I've got to see them grow
from not even meeting them and seeing what you've done.
It's been super cool. So thanks for I guess sharing
that with me and without realizing you're doing it, but
thank you. It's been awesome. Oh yeah, no, definitely and
same here like watching you grow and where you've got
(40:29):
to today. Like you mentioned in it in your first
intro for this podcast, I don't know if I have
a or a side hustle. You definitely have like a
bunch of side hustles, and I don't think you realize
it because you've been crushing it ever since you've got there. Well,
thank you very much. I appreciate that. I really really do.
And it's been awesome talking to you, and I have
(40:50):
a very good feeling Matt, that we are going to
work together on I'm going to be hiring you at
some point. Did you help me out with something? And
I can't wait. Maybe it'll be like my first official
hillside hustle. You're gonna have to help me get it
off the ground. I'll be here to help. And it's
gonna be like a puppy store with ice cream, and
that's what it's gonna be. Come get ice cream and
play with puppies. That is my my dream. That would
(41:12):
be a great thing to build. I would be totally
for that. So if people want to find you, it's
seed l l C dot net. And is there any
social that they can find you guys onto. Yeah, Facebook
is our main one messenger has been a hit for us,
so you can message us on Facebook at seed tech
help one word seed tech and seed is s e
(41:33):
e ed in case for at any point you weren't
sure what the hell we're saying, that's what it is.
So Matt, thank you so much. I appreciate you sharing
your badass nous with us and and teaching us a
whole new world that I don't think a lot of
us knew existed. So thank you, no, thank you for
having me. This has been a blast. Okay, right now,
it's just me ditched Matt. This is after the podcast
has been recorded. I'm about to post it, but he
(41:55):
did send me a text saying he wishes he mentioned
something in the podcast, so I figured i'd added in.
This is a story directly from Matt. One of my
best training experiences was teaching a woman who was deaf
how to use I movie. I don't know sign language,
but using FaceTime on an iPad and headphones, I was
able to talk with a sign language translator while she
(42:17):
was able to understand my instructions from looking at the iPad.
It was awesome. To be able to help someone understand
a complex program to unlock this creative drive, no differently
than anyone else. I'm actually really excited he shared that story.
So Matt, thank you very much for texting me that.
And again you can always tweet me, Instagram, Facebook, all
of it get. I mean, if you have any questions
(42:38):
about side hustlers, it's at the Carla Murray
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