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It's the Bow in the after showdecompression session. Here we are you.
Yes, yes, those guys evershot up. We just have to sit
through one show and now we gotto sit through a bunch of bulls.
Yet they got on top. It'stherapeutic for us, I was telling listeners
yesterday morning. Getting to do thisand just letting the extra steam out of

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our brains helps us relax at theend of our work day, does it
not, Yeah, because we're justlike ripping and running like crazy people.
Yeah, for four hours, andthen now we get to sit down and
go col gone, take me away. Listeners, don't listen to Bow.
He's full of grab four hours myfoot. He does at least eight hours

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in here. Well yeah, butthat's just in preparation. I mean,
there's there's a lot of preparation thatgoes into this. But then when the
actual show starts, it's like,oh shit, here we go, Oh
my god, oh nothing goes wrong. It flies by Bow and I did
not expect that when I joined theshow. I didn't expect that because the
hours suck, but it goes byfast because you're doing something all the time.

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That's right, that's right. Andthe next thing. You know,
it's time for lunch and bedtime againand a nap. Do you take afternoon
naps? I did yesterday because Iwas gonna run down to this easy thing.
But normally I try and push throughto make sure that when eight o'clock
finally hits, I am damn sleepy. And I've been getting pretty good at

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it. I'm doing all right.See, I gotta thank you. I
took a killer nap yesterday. Ididn't even expect it. I was sitting
on my couch, yeah, andmy son's cat was sitting on my chest
and I was petting her, andI was just like and I woke up
two hours later. See, yeah, it knocked me out, well,
because you know, your body's notused to getting up like this all the
time. I'm used to it,even though you never truly get used to

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it. But then I do lovemy afternoon naps. Oh they're great.
You know. In the old days, when I used to do the Jagger
Show, because I was going througha divorce, I had my kids,
I was getting by on two hourssleep a night for like a year and
a half. Oh damn, becauseI just the scheduling and everything that worked
out. I was I was goinginsane. I was literally insane. And
then, uh, you know,I figured out a schedule. It works,

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but sleeps very important. And againI took a great nap yesterday.
It was so good. Well,you know what, I'm probably gonna tell
you a great nap today, Miselle. It's a great day for it.
It's nice out there. I guessI should sew everybody out the window looking
at it. There's not as muchas see the building that was burning.
Everyone's gone to fire, all thefire equipment, everything's gone now. It
doesn't even look like anything happened now, does it. Yeah, but it

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did. I mean that fire washuge earlier. It was at least three
stories high, and the smoke probablyfive or six times that and seven fire
engines. That clip someone sent mefrom Facebook. Someone's down on street level
took video of it. Yeah,so you guys can post that and show
you how big it was. It'squite terrifying to look at. We were

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all sitting here front row, rightacross the street, thinking if it explodes,
oh shit, we've got a frontrow seat for all of this,
and maybe some windows blown out bigenough to you're gonna say, in case
a piece of metal comes through thatwindow, and that's they make envelopes.
So there's a lot of paper,Yeah, a lot of paper and glue.
Yeah, that's why it burned sohigh. Yeah, but they put

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it out just like that. Theyreally did. I got to hand it
to the first responders there. Weexpected him to show up within seconds,
and it did take him to tennishminutes or so. But when they did,
it was like they batted an eyeand it was under control. Well,
after the show, I'm going towalk across the street and go in
and go, hey, what happened. Yeah, you all got a new

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paper. You're go in there andsay, what's that smell? Yeah?
It smelled like what was somebody elsesaid it smelled like marshmallows a little bit.
It was kind of a sweet seme. Yeah, and I wonder if
it was the glue, you know, the envelopes. Yeah. One of
the other producers down the hall waslike, is that roasted marshmallows? We
smell? And I can't believe Isaid this out loud, but I said,
ah, that might not be marshmallows. You're smelling? How bad it

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is? It looks like everybody's okay, Well, there you go, you
have the most exciting day ever inFarmer's Branch twenty twenty three. How nuts
is that? But again, lastnight was amazing to go. I want
to say thanks to Chase at Julian'sAuctions for letting me come down there.
I didn't get down there until wellafter they were all done for the evening.
And here's the thing. Tuesday night, those Julian's Auctions people took those

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thousand pieces of Dusty Hills stuff andthey stayed up all night Tuesday night setting
that stuff up and well into Wednesday, which was media day there, and
so waiting for me to get theresix seven o'clock at night. They were
they made a special exception, butthey were really ready to go to bed
by the time I got down therea little bit. There's three lots of
stuff, and there's three different chambersin that exhibition hall. How much money

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you think they'll make? Millions?Because some of those things are ten thousand
dollars starting bids and stuff summer fifteenand sixty bucks. But yeah, some
of the fuzzy bass guitar alone,it's starting in the twenty thousand, so
I'm guessing that's per iconic guitar,the big fuzzy bass guitar that they spun
around in the legs uh huh,And I asked him about that for you

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bo I asked about the blue jacket, and then I also asked about does
the fuzzy bass guitar spin around ifyou strap it on? And they said
that was actually some sort of amovie trick or a plus with the producers
of the video, and it wasn't. Actually they like put some sort of
movie harness on them and connected theguitar and did it that way, but
it's not part of the lot.No, how many times did you see

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zz Top? Cause I get threeshows in really yeah, I must have
seen him like ten fifteen times GeorgiaBoy until ninety nine. So coming out
here and not seeing z Eazy Topwas like an abomination of nature. Yeah,
what do you mean a top themost? Both get it, rope.

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What bad do you think you've seenthe group? If you've seen the
most? Probably the stones really orBB King? Wow, that was a
huge bb king fan. Two biganswers from bo. I'm trying to think.
I guess that's it. I mean, like I say, I've seen
zz Top probably as many times.Yeah, how about you, Ale,

(06:18):
I'm thinking that Metallica is probably themost for work reasons, because they've always
been really press friendly to us wheneverthey go on tour. They've even flown
us to Houston to broadcast backstage.They've they've accommodated us in really wonderful ways.
So yeah, it's gotten to thepoint now where like if it's me

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and Lars in an interview, Larsgoes, oh, yeah, yeah,
I remember you ten years ago.Yeah, he doesn't talk like that.
It's not that bad. I'm exaggerating. But he's Danish, and so is
his father, Jan Ulrick or something. You know, I'm thinking of Jan

(07:00):
van Halen. His father, likeEddie van Halen's father was a music virtuoso
too. How did you, guys, ever sneak into a concert when you
were like, I don't know eleven. I snuck into one when I was
probably eighteen. It was ten yearsafter Okay, I love them at McFarlane
Auditorium and we were just walking aroundand I saw a window open. It

(07:26):
was about an hour two hours beforethe show, and because I hadn't bought
a ticket yet, uh huh,so I said, watch, so I
snuck in and I hit in thebathroom for about two hours until I started
hearing people coming in, and thenI went in watched the show for free,
and that was that. The restis history. You know, I've
always heard if you're ever in asituation where you're backstage at something, or

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like on a movie lot or anything, if you just have a clipboard,
they'll thank you belong and you're walkingaround with authority, people don't even question
you just have a clipboard with apiece of paper on it, and you
can just get wherever. I mean, I'm sure you know the Rolling Stones,
there's passes to get in to seethe band, But as far as
you're ever backstage at a situation,just have a clipboard. I know a

(08:07):
friend of mine he ended up,it's a long story set getting a script
of Roseanne when the Roseanne Show wason. But he got on the back
loot of Paramount and he just hada clipboard and he's walking all across the
lot and no one stopped him.Why because he's got a clipboard. He's
got a clipboard, so you doingsomething important. I've had buddies before that

(08:28):
have old backstage lamin it passes andthey'll clump them all together on a landyard
and hang them from their belt,grab a clipboard, of course, dressing
all black and act extra exasperated andwalk in backstage because they look like they
belong there. Yeah, we're givingaway the secrets of the pyramids everything.
But that doesn't work all the time. No, no, no guarantees my

(08:50):
friends, No, not at all. How about you, ale, youngest
you were, well, see acar or do you ever sneak into one?
I never snuck into one, butI have plenty of friends who have
pulled it off and bragged loudly aboutit. That was the only time I
ever snuck into a concert? Wasthat really? Where your friends? Like?
Did they buy tickets? Like?Where's bo And then you came out
backwards back after the show and you'relike, hey, I snuck in the

(09:13):
back, And no, I saidthey went in and bought a ticket.
They didn't know where I was,right because I was in the bathroom hiding.
And then I got in right asyou know, people were coming in.
I found my friends and it wasone of those things where there were
no chairs, you had to siton the floor. General admissions boo,
All right, well here's a similarstory for you, d Oh. Second

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album tour, Tucson, Arizona.I'm a high school teenager. I have
a ticket legally to the show.I go in, I get bored with
my friends and I start wandering aroundTucson Community Center arena waiting for Dio to
start. Okay, so I comeup underneath the seats, that little U
shape that you can walk under.They did the cavernous spots. I go
into there, and eventually I justcome to where there's only a curtain between

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me the backstage area, not evenguarded from what I can tell, just
a curtain, and I'm standing there, leaning up against the wall on the
commoner side, wondering if I'll seeDio walk by. My God, he
walked by, and I screamed Iwas a teenager and I worshiped him,
and I went, you Dah,you fucking roll man. God. He

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jumped back about three steps, anda bodyguard came up from behind him and
came to me and gave me abig, solid push backwards. Oh yeah,
we weren't even doing nothing. Ifreaked out and scared the shit out
of d O though. Yeah,well you because he's wired up anyway,
knowing he's fixing going state right.Yeah, that's as close as I came

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to, uh, scamming myself in. You know, we were talking about
Aerosmith earlier. I remember it.I was working and no I was I
was already in Dallas, but Aerosmithwas doing a concert at Reunion Arena,
remember that place. Oh yeah,And I was supposed to go. I
be the guy they was coming upconcerts blah blah and read all the shit.

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You know, you don't go onright before the band. It's called
a soft soft intro. And uh, I'm walking back and just walking around
backstage, and I hear this commotionand I said, let me go see
what that is. And this dooropens and a chair comes flying out.
It was Steven Tyler and Joe Perrygetting in an argument. Yes, wow,
And I said, maybe I betternot go say hi to the boys

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just yet. The Toxic Twins,that's what everyone used to call their Toxic
Twins. They would get in fightsthere. So you were there for one
of the bat I didn't see itgoing on, but I saw the chair
fly out the door. And samething kind of happened at a Kink show
when I was in Minnesota. Thosebrothers hate each other. I think it
was Dave Davies that just opened thedoor and slammed it and walked start walking

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down the hall. Oh, theDavies brothers having another fight. I keep
meaning to ask you this boat withall this easy top hulla bloo going on.
When Zeezi Tap played that Bow andJim show in two thousand and seven
and you guys had them for yourshow, what happened backstage? Did you
guys socialize with the band, thecrew they had There's a place you know

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where you go eat, yeah,Hospitality, Hospitality suite, and Randy went
up and talked to Dusty. Ididn't see any of any of the other
band there. Okay, all right. I had to run that one by
you and see if there were anybackstage stories of wildness from that day.
No, we did talk to God. Who was it, Tom Peterson?

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I think Cheap Trick was on thatshow? Or okay, maybe that or
it was the Foreigner show. Itall runs together. We've done so many
of those, right, but Ikind of remember those days. Yeah.
I have foggy broken shards of memorybroke like pieces of memory glass laying around,

(12:54):
and sometimes they come around and sometimesI'm like, I don't even remember
being there. Sometimes you step onthem and awakes. You'll go, oh,
I forgot it. Hey, ifyou write your biography, that's what
you gotta call it. Broken sharksmy foots, the broken shards of my
memory, broken sharks of memory.That that book would sell you think you
yeah, oh no, let's see. All right, Well listen, I

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got to get out of here becauseI got some more ship to do.
Okay, but we'll see you tomorrowon the show enough show uh. Median
and actor TJ. Miller is goingto be here. Yeah. Awesome,
and more Christmas cheer from our Christmasarchives because you know is the season.
Dean. We'll see you again tomorrow. I'll be here. Thanks for the

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invite. Remember you get a freelunch tomorrow after this show. I know
I got a place we're gonna go. It's gonna be delicious. All right,
We'll see you tomorrow. Thanks alot,
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