Husky Honks try to make sense of the shocking loss to Wisconsin

Dave Softy Mahler and Greg Lewis break down the brutal 13-10 loss to Wisconsin and take your calls.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:29):
I'll tell you what, man, Mario Bailey picked the right
week to take the week off. There's no question about that.
Maybe maybe he planned it this way right to not
be here and make you and I sit here and
take all the darts from from Husky Nation Husky fans,
and they are well deserved the snow coming down here
at Camp Randall Stadium. You and I were sitting here

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Greg about five hours ago, looking across, reading off the
years of all the rolls, bowls, retired numbers across the way.
You can't see any of that right now because of
the snow coming down here at Camp Randall. After what
is a I mean, let's face it, just a disastrous
loss for Washington. There's no other way to sugarcoat this.
A thirteen to ten game that you feel like, hey,

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was going to be kind of a slog, was going
to be one of those gnarly, kind of typical Big
ten Wisconsin road games, but Washington found a way to
win a lot of ways. Give this thing away so
we can grab your phone calls at two eight, six,
ninety five, ninety five or eight hundred and eighty two
nine or nine five zero as the Huskies lose thirteen
to ten to Wisconsin. Cors Light Husky Hank postgame show,

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all challenges. Well, you, dub was not ready to accept
the challenge tonight. Greg of the Wisconsin Badgers. They have
one touchdown on offense in this game, and it totaled

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one yard because it came after Anthony Ward block punt
that gave the Huskies the ball at the Badger one
yard line. Kind of hard, right, even with the snow,
even with the injuries that you have had today, it's
very difficult to imagine a football team that includes Joonah Coleman,
Denzel Boston, Demon Williams, an emerging Desmond Roebuck, an offensive

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line with John Mills and Carver Willis back. I know
some of those guys got banged up in the game today,
but it's almost impossible to imagine that football team coming
to a place like Camp Randall and Wisconsin and having
one touchdown drive and it came on a one yard
drive currency of a block punt by your special team.
So what happened tonight in this game from your perspective,

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because all I saw on the end was a complete
disaster for U dub Well.

Speaker 3 (02:44):
I was coming here expecting to see one of the
worst offenses in the country in a terrible offensive performance,
a team who couldn't score, a team who was going
to put up points, and then the Huskies became that team.
And unfortunately today Wisconsin owns the twenty third letter in
the alphabet, the W, because they were the real U

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dub out there and our team just anyway you slice
this up, it was a disastrous, disastrous loss to lose
to a team who actually has not scored a touchdown
in a long time.

Speaker 4 (03:18):
They got one today.

Speaker 3 (03:20):
Obviously, off of one of our mistakes kicked a couple
of field goals, and you know, we talked about how
it would be enough if we scored seventeen points. Well
it was enough for them to score thirteen. But I'm
gonna tell you how you lose to a team that
is as bad as offense and as Wisconsin is.

Speaker 4 (03:36):
You get a black field goal, yep.

Speaker 3 (03:38):
Funneling your own end of the field to give them
a you know, seven yard go You allow them to
convert a fake punt for a first down. You throw
an interception when your own thirty eight yard line where
you should get some points. You have back to back
false starts when you're trying to have a drive to
get your offense going that knocks you back into your
own side of end zone.

Speaker 4 (04:00):
You have a.

Speaker 3 (04:01):
Terrible fair catch call where you have to start a
drive on your own five yard line. You don't feel
the punt, let it roll, and you start another drive
that you've got to score points on on your own
seven yard line. When you do stuff like that, you
can lose to a team who is offensively challenged. I mean,

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you gave them hope, You let Louder stay in the game,
You gave them an easy touchdown, you allowed them extend
to drive with the fake punt. It was just mistake
after mistake, self inflicted wound after self inflicted wound. And
the bottom line is, and this is the underlying thing
that regardless of all this, if you take away the
fourth quarter of the Maryland game, our offense on the

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road in the Big ten has been putrid. Right, And
that's the offensive line, that's the quarterback, and that's the
play calling. Those are three things that we have not
been able to get right on the road in the
Big ten.

Speaker 4 (04:57):
And unfortunately to.

Speaker 3 (05:00):
A horrible loss where we were talking about possibly sneaking
in the back door to the playoff to now can
we battle to get eight wins?

Speaker 2 (05:11):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (05:11):
Yeah, that's kind of how this one game turns the
tide from all of that.

Speaker 4 (05:16):
So it was a bad loss.

Speaker 2 (05:17):
Well, I think, look, the good news about a game
like this is there's nothing good news. Well, I'll get
to it. There's nothing confusing about the Husky future because
they aren't going to be no CFP in the Husky future.
I think to talk about Jetfish being courted by other
programs can probably stop for now, unless again, someone just
wants to you know, get them out of here and

(05:39):
give them a gig down in the sun somewhere. But
I think the only thing that matters now for you,
Dub is Purdue. I mean that's it. Like everything else
is second nature. Everything else is done, it's finished. All
that talk is now over after this game did.

Speaker 4 (05:50):
A second time.

Speaker 2 (05:51):
But yeah, I mean, well, and you had you had
three games against Wisconsin perdue when UCLA where you think
you got better talent in all three games, and you
just blew the first one against a a mnemic offensive
lead challenge football team. This is a Wisconsin football team
that did not complete a pass until a minute left
to go in this in the first half. That's how
bad they were offensively. And you mentioned the field position, Greg,

(06:12):
I'm looking at the second half for you, Dub. You're
leading ten to three. You force a punt on the
very first drive or the second half of Wisconsin, so
great news there. Then you start on the eight yard line.
Then you start on the minus nine on the second
play after Demant Williams took a grounding call. Then you
start on the minus five yard line after that fair

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catch snafu that you talked about. Then you start on
your minus four yard line, then your minus thirteen yard line.
I mean, that was what the second half looked like.
And I know there's gonna be a lot of conversation
about the block field goal from Grady Groves fourth and
five from the Wisconsin thirty two. You're now trailing thirteen
to ten at that point, and I think all of

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us are going, Wow, this kind of feels like a
bit of a risk. I mean, you could have gone
fourth and fourth and five and still probably potentially gotten
stuffed on fourth down. Sure, but you give yourself a
better opportunity, I think, to actually run a play versus
relying on a kicker that let's face that, Grady Gross
has not had a good year at kicker, your putter
has not had a good year. I thought your kicking
game was awful in this game today, Absolutely awful in

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this game today. So let's start with that decision by
Jetfish right there, because he was getting criticized right away
online for letting Grady Gross kick that field goal.

Speaker 3 (07:26):
Yeah, and you and I are here and so we
can actually feel the elements some folks might be watching
it on television. Yeah, but you're kicking a fifty yard
field goal in a place where it's bone chilling cold,
there's snow flurries flying all over the place, the wind
is blowing in your face. As a matter of fact,

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it's wet down there. You gotta drive the kick fifty
yards so you can't get a lot of height on
it because you got to drive it, and you're asking
Grady Gross to kick that field goal and have some
success on that play. Again, no one play call or
decision loses a game for you, So I'm not blaming
that on us losing the game today, But it was.

Speaker 4 (08:06):
A curious call. To me. I thought, hey, let's go
for it on this. We're on their half of the field.

Speaker 3 (08:12):
We know that offensively they're challenged, and so let's go
for it, and let's try to give ourselves an opportunity
to get some momentum. We're on the plus side of
the field to perhaps score some points if we get
the first down there. Even if we you know, come
up short after a couple more plays, maybe we get
nothing close enough to score a field goals.

Speaker 4 (08:33):
So for me, that was a real curious play.

Speaker 5 (08:35):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (08:35):
Look, I mean again, the easy could have gone for it,
and they could have been stopped on fourth and five
and In the end, I think the fourth and five
field goal just turned out to be exactly that, a
turnover on downs because U dub eventually allowed Wisconsin to
drive into their own territory, but did force the punt
and got the ball back from the from the minus
four yard line. But the mistakes that were made that

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gave Wisconsin this game are just unbelievable. I mean down
came after a Demand Williams fumble where he's running around.
He turns his back to the defense trying to make
chicken salad from chicken crap. He's under siege. The offensive
line was banged up and could not block the entire day.
He fumbles there that leads to a touchdown. Wisconsin gets
another field goal when they start from the Husky forty

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three after a bad punt, and then the Husky thirty
six after a bad punt that nets twenty nine yards.
So the turnover by Demand Williams and the absolutely unbelievable
breakdowns today in the kicking game, the punting game, the
return game, the field goal kicking game. Special teams just
killed this football team in a lot of ways. It

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was the only reason why they were in the game
because of the black pot by Anthony Ward. But it's
the reason why they lost the game because of where
they gave Wisconsin field position. So your thoughts on this,
I mean, look, guys, we can take your phone calls
as long as you want to, but here's the bottom line.
You Dub went into this year thinking they were going
to be able to run the ball against anybody, and

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that has not been the case. This is now nine
games in and they were not able to run the
ball today against Wisconsin. We did say before the game that, hey, look, man,
Wisconsin may look at this game with you Dub is
a little bit of a reprieve, right. They've played three
of the top five defenses in the country in the
last three weeks, and they're going to get a bit
of a break now with you Dub coming in here.
A good defense, but not an elite defense. And still

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through all of that, it was mistakes by Washington that
led Wisconsin, I think, to win this game today. So Greg,
you mentioned it. It was a just a horrific, disappointing
loss by U Dub. That that ends any conversation of
anything postseason worth of damn anything. The only thing this
team can do now is grow and try to make
it payoff as the year goes by and maybe even

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in the next year. So and a absolute disappointing loss
today for U dub against Wisconsin. You want to jump on,
share your thoughts, go for it two eight six, ninety five,
ninety five, thirteen to ten loss. Come back at some
of your phone calls. Next right here live from Madison
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Speaker 2 (11:46):
You know it is appropriate drag to be sitting here
inside the press box at Camp Randal stadium and watching
the wind and snow just blow right by us as
if the Husky CFP chances are on Santa Sleigh just
going that way to somebody else's Christmas tree, and not
ours Forstmas morning, because those dreams are now dashed after
a thirteen to ten loss to Wisconsin. This afternoon Husky
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unbelievable price. Huskies lose today Wisconsin thirteen to ten. With
some of your phone calls two h six ninety five
ninety five, let's jump into it. James Is and Edmunds. James,
you're on with us, Sophie and Greg from Madison? What's
going on?

Speaker 5 (12:31):
All right?

Speaker 2 (12:31):
James is gone? All right, Let's try Scott and Sha Halo. Scott,
You're up, buddy, go for it. Well, I don't blame everybody. Well,
I don't blame people for not want to talk by
the way about this thing at all. Travis, you want
to try Brandon and Federal Way, or you want to
take a pause here for a second. You tell me, Bud,

(12:52):
all right, we'll just keep it here then. Okay, okay,
Brandon federal Way, you're on the year, go ahead.

Speaker 5 (13:00):
Hey, what's going on? Thanks for taking my call, Softie.
I just wanted to say that it was a pleasure
to meet you. After Game six of the Mariners game.
I was the one that came up to you when
you were crashing out and told you that the Huskies
were gonna be good. Now, I don't think that was
the right thing to say. Apparently I was well wrong.
But a couple of things that I noticed about the game,

(13:23):
just in general, Zach Durphy, he gotta go. He was
bad today, very very bad. I've never seen a guy
with so many times on not knowing what way to
go when trying to, you know, steel the edge and
keep the quarterback contained.

Speaker 2 (13:40):
He was carried.

Speaker 5 (13:43):
Where he's like leaving the edge completely and running out
with the tight end, knowing damn well, they were never
going to throw the ball. And then just a couple
of things about the offense. They were spying him on
all day and you could tell that he was not
comfortable just sitting back in the pocket without getting to
kind of run around the little bit and he suffered
dearly for it, and offense did because I think he

(14:04):
was missing a ton of easy pros that he could
have hit if he would have been looking. But when
you're his size, I think that creates a lot of
a lot of conflict for him in the pocket if
he's not able to move around. And then my last thing,
I don't really understand the Jonah Coleman thing. I know
he got hurt later in the game, but I've noticed
the trends even going back to last year where he's

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not carrying the ball even like sixteen seventeen times a game,
like he has only touched twenty times this season once,
So that's a little bit of a concern for me.
I don't know if it's a durability thing if he's
hurt or yeah, what, but I'd love to see him
touch the ball more. And if not, a little bit
of a controversial take on my part, I think Adam

(14:47):
Mohammad should be the starting running back if Jonah Coleman
isn't capable, because I think Adam Muhammad, if he's given
twenty carries, at least it gives him an opportunity to
kind of get on a role in the game instead
of in a supplementary role. I appreciate you guys a lot,
thanks for taking my call again.

Speaker 2 (15:02):
Okay, but well yeah, I mean, if Jorona Coleman can't go,
then Mohammad absolutely is the guy. But if Jonick Coleman's healthy,
number one is the man.

Speaker 4 (15:08):
First, absolutely he's the guy.

Speaker 3 (15:10):
And it's not a matter of excuse me, whether Jonah
Coleman can get it done. Jed Fish's DNA does not
allow him to be a pounded out. Give the running
back twenty carries a game type of coach. That's just
not who he is. It's just not his DNA, it's
just not his offensive philosophy. So you know you're not

(15:32):
going to ever see that. Jonah Coleman is one of
the better backs in the country. He's i think leading
the country and rushing touchdowns or in scoring, he's in
the top you know category and that along those lines.

Speaker 4 (15:46):
So it's not a Jonah Coleman thing.

Speaker 3 (15:48):
I think today, I wouldn't even necessarily even blame anybody
on the defense for anything that I agree they held
the opponent to thirteen points. This was strictly an offense
who not get it done. Like I said, I think
the offensive line, especially with Drew as a party going down.
Fa Solo coming in, not just necessarily his play, but

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the two false starts in critical times things like that,
those mistakes that were made were more of an issue.
And just I loved him on Williams o'kim. I love him.
I think this kid is special. I think he's going
to be an incredible player. But there's something about how
he has played on the road in the Big Ten

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Conference away from Hesseki Stadium that's different than when he's
at home, and his accuracy is different, his escapability has
been different. I just think we've struggled to figure out
how to get our offense really playing at a high
level in the Big Ten on the road.

Speaker 2 (16:51):
Well, the thing about the Fa Solo false starts, it
was third and twenty already, I mean, it was going
to take a miracle to get yourself out of there,
and that didn't help any obviously, when Swane went back
to back fall starts and all of a sudden, you
wake up and it's third and thirty. The Jonah Coleman thing,
I'd love to know more about what happened there. At halftime,
Jed actually told a Lease Woodward that him and Denzel

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Boston were both good to go, and Denzel was and
Jonah was not. So I don't know there was either
some kind of you know, lost in translacent situation there.
Maybe Jonah came out and told Jed, look, it's just
not responding whatever the injury was. He had his helmet
off the entire second half. They never gave it back
to him. So whatever Jed thought was gonna happen in
the second half never did happen. But your point about

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this not being on the defense, I for the most
part agree. And look, I mean Ryan Walters and defensive
coordinators will always say, hey, if our offense scores ten,
then we got to allow let's we got allowed nine.
Right like the Michigan game, he came out and said,
you know what, all we could give up was six
points because the Husky offense scored seven. So defensive coordinators
will never throw the offense under the bus unless you're

(17:57):
in the NFL and you're playing for the Bengals. Right
outside of that, most DC's don't do things like that.
So this was a game where Wisconsin had three scores
in this game, and all three drives started inside Husky
territory exactly. The UDUBB forty three, the UB seven, and
the UB thirty six. They literally earned nothing in this game.

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On offense, Wisconsin, they were given everything, and they were
given everything because of mistakes by the Husky offense.

Speaker 3 (18:25):
Either the offense had terrible plays or it once the
offense got stalled, the punter did not have a successful numb.
I think our defense was put in a bad situation
time after time, and even so they held the opponent
to thirteen points. Right, you holding a point opponent to
thirteen points, you're supposed to win the football game. I

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think if we were all asked earlier this week, would
you take the opponent only scoring thirteen points? Wisconsin has
thirteen to night? Would you take that? Yes, and we
would think it's a Husky win.

Speaker 2 (18:57):
Let's go to uh all right, let's reset here, Travis,
Mike is in Bellevue. We'll go from top to bottom.
Mike in Bellvue, You're on the year. Go ahead, man,
how are you? Hey?

Speaker 7 (19:05):
Dude?

Speaker 4 (19:06):
So well?

Speaker 8 (19:06):
Not great? And first of all, big picture, I think
that was a very poor coaching job. Number two, let
us all recognize how great Greg Lewis is as a
game evaluator. He points out not only the obvious, but
the freaking specifics of the things. Number three, come on,

(19:27):
you know, you made some poor quarterback decisions. You could
have sit back and maybe throw on a quick screen
and instead of deciding to run and scramble for five
yards when we needed eight or ten. It was a bad,
bad game. But again, very impressed with with you, Greg,
and very not impressed with our coach. And too bad

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that Florida is never going to take him now.

Speaker 2 (19:50):
Well, I appreciate the call man, nice compliments for Greg Lewis.

Speaker 4 (19:53):
I appreciate it.

Speaker 2 (19:53):
I thought it was being sarcastic for a second, but
he said that. Greg points out the obvious. Man. Typically
when you've accused somebody of points now the obvious.

Speaker 4 (20:00):
That's a Critici had, not only some of the other things.

Speaker 3 (20:04):
And again, when you play a team like Wisconsin who
has challenged offensively, I think the seven things that I
pointed out as how you helped them win the football
game is appropriate. I mean that team Wisconsin could not
win the game unless we help them. We literally had
to give the We did the magic Johnson, We gave

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the assist in order for Wisconsin to win the football
game by allowing the block to punt, by allowing the
fumble recovery, by allowing them to convert on the fake punt.
Those are things when you're trying to win a football
game against a team who's didn't get down, you give
them life and you allowed them to sneak a winning Let's.

Speaker 2 (20:43):
Talk about the fumble by Demand that led to the touchdown,
because what I saw was a guy that was trying
to make chicken salad from chicken crap. He's under the rest,
he's turning around, he's running away from the defense crag,
and he fumbles the football and Wisconsin against the ball
at the seven yard line. Plays later, they're in the
end zone for a touchdown. So did we see an

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offense that maybe should have kind of tightened things up?
I mean, the problem is you don't have Jonah Coleman
to run the ball, You don't have a true tight
end to work the seam on this football team, and
you know, and you did at that point have an
offensive line that was down two fifths of their starters.
So what did you see on that fumble by Demon?

Speaker 3 (21:23):
Well, fumbles happened in football games. He was trying to
make a play he was trying to spin out of
a potential set and had the ball kind of flailing
and Number eight was able.

Speaker 4 (21:33):
To strip him.

Speaker 3 (21:34):
I'm not necessarily blaming demand from the standpoint that that
cost us, that he had the ball kind of hanging
out there. It's just that our offense in the Big
ten on the road, for more than one reason, more
than just demon has not been successful. But he's been
a part of that. As a young guy, you know,

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a nineteen year old kid. He he hasn't figured out
how to have his best games right when he's on
the road. But the play calling is a part of that,
and the way the offensive line drew as a party
I think went down, yes, and our tackle spot on
the right side wasn't as short up because he's been
a bright spot for us. So I think it's just

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been a combination of all of those things happening when
we're on the road that hasn't allowed us to be
successful offense.

Speaker 2 (22:24):
Well, look, when you're in third and long, obviously your
playbook is slightly limited. When you're third and twelve. It
was third and seven and then decora, the graph gets
called for a false start, and all of a sudden.
You're third and twelve, so instead of whatever you had
called on third and seven, you're rethinking that if you're
jetfish and thinking I may have to drop them on
back here and give him some time to let some
receivers get downfield to get my thirteen yards for a

(22:44):
first down. So everything started, Greg in this game with
UUB shooting themselves right in the fuck.

Speaker 3 (22:50):
Whatever we could do to help facilitate a loss. That's right,
we facilitated that right day. Again, I gave you my list.
You just added another one, another thing that caused us
to be on the opposite end of where we thought
we would be today.

Speaker 2 (23:04):
How about James and Edmunds. James, you're on the Hanks
Show next, go ahead.

Speaker 9 (23:10):
Yeah, I just want to incredibly frustrating loss, you know,
just coupled with Organs come from my win. But yeah,
I just you know, I feel like, like, as Greg's
kind of alluding to, like this team just plays with
like a chicken with their head cut off for some reason.
And I get it. It was, you know, stormy weather

(23:31):
and all that, but I just felt like, you know,
and this is partly on the coaching and partly on
the players as well, this is the kind of game
where like, sure, I'm not blaming the defense, but I'm
not going to like throw flowers out of either. I mean,
this is a horrific Wisconsin offense. All you had to
do was not make big mistakes. And I really think
they should have come in with a very conservative game plan.

(23:52):
I think they should have coached him on in those
situations where like, hey, you know, even if we're at
the five yard line and it's third down, go down
with just go down and then we punt the ball
and they probably don't you know, their kicker's not very good.
I mean, like they probably don't get anything. And like
I just felt like, you know, you were saying that
he was trying to make you know, chicken salad out

(24:13):
of chicken crap, you know, and it's like, there's no
reason to do that at that time. I bet that point.
So I just think there's there's some about the mentality
of this team on the road and just the way
that they're they're just they're just seem frantic, they just
seem panicked, and and I think, you know, in this game,
I just think, like I said, I think the game
plan should have been conservative all the way, there's no

(24:33):
reason not to play conservative in this kind of weather
against a team that has such a bad offense. So yeah,
that's that's where I'm at. I mean, still have faith
that they'll make a decent bowl game. Like Saftie said,
at least, we're not even thinking about the college playoffs,
and frankly, this doesn't really look like a playoff team
to me.

Speaker 2 (24:48):
Anyway, but of course not. I mean, they're not going
to be ranked on Monday, right, And we spend all
this time bit chicken whining and moaning, but we can't
get ranked. We can't get ranked in the boom. You
get ranked and you fall apart. They can't handle.

Speaker 3 (24:59):
Prosper Yeah, Softy's pointed that comment at me, by the way,
because I was the one who was really complaining about
the fact that they weren't ranked.

Speaker 4 (25:07):
I think this. I think today's game plan was somewhat conservative.

Speaker 3 (25:11):
I don't think necessarily that they were taking a bunch
of chances down the field, but they made some critical
mistakes and errors at critical times. We're on our own
thirty eight, well we're on the opponent's thirty eight online.

Speaker 4 (25:25):
I'm sorry.

Speaker 3 (25:25):
Going in the score and we throw a pass where
the receiver didn't the def his back did not bite
on the on the out and up or whatever you
want to call on the second move and we throw
the ball anyway, we get an interception, you come out
on that drive with a field goal, and it completely
changes the complexion of the game. Because this game was

(25:46):
going to be won. We talked about it early. I
said it was going to be tough sledding. It was
going to be closer than people felt. Like every point
counted in this game. When you're playing a team like
Wisconsin that doesn't score a lot of points, field goals matter.
And I think in that drive, if you don't throw
that ball away, and again, Demon Williams love him, think
he's great, super talented, but on the road he's made

(26:10):
some decisions and some throws that have really hurt this
football team. And I think that's a key to why
we haven't been successful in those situations.

Speaker 2 (26:19):
Well, and to the Colors point about, you know, you
got to play a conservative the entire game, Okay, And
I agree with Greg. I think for the most part,
they did play a conservative the entire game. There were
one or two plays where they thought, hey, we're gonna
drop back here. We're gonna try to get our thirteen
yards and keep this drive going. You tell them on
like you tell any quarterback if there's nothing there, get
rid of it, right And instead of getting rid of it,

(26:41):
he just decides to run around and he drops the
ball and you end up turning it over. So, I mean,
I think I think sometimes guys, it's absolutely appropriate to
put it on the coaches. There's also times where it's
appropriate on individual plays to point out the obvious mistakes
that are made by players, especially ones that are making
hundreds of thousands, if not millions of dollars a year

(27:03):
to play college football. I mean, there's there's there's room
for fair criticism, I think in this game. But Greg,
like like you said, you dub had four drives, they
got to the plus thirty nine, they turned it over
run downs, they got to the plus eighteen, they settle
for a field goal first and ten from the eighteen,
settle for three. They get to the thirty five, had
a field goal block, get to the thirty six and

(27:24):
threw a pick. That's four drives inside Wisconsin and with
the Badger's forty yard line that led to three points
total in this game. This offense can't do that. They
cannot do that against anybody, but they did it tonight
and that's why they lost. We're gonna break eight O
two a lot more to get to, including more of
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Speaker 2 (28:45):
All right, we're back inside Camp Randall Stadium. Snow is
still coming down. Madison, Wisconsin UDB season goes down. Their
CFP hopes go down on a ball of flames thirteen
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(29:06):
trim for you to help you do more. Let's go
back to the phone lines two eight, six, ninety five,
ninety five, the number Travis, who's been waiting the longest.
Back there, you tell me, Scott and Shahalos, thank you, Scotty,
you're on the air. Go ahead, man. What do you think?

Speaker 5 (29:25):
Well?

Speaker 10 (29:26):
I was really worried at the beginning of the week
when Wisconsin said they're going to bring Sickle back, because
I think it gave that team belief and hope and
took away the certainty of what's going to happen. And
I think they played with energy and then we didn't,
obviously on offense, do anything to kill that. And you know,
the Wisconsin's defense, you know, turn it over to the offense,

(29:47):
and Wisconsin's offense could just run it just enough and
that's just enough. One, two, three plays and here we are.
And you know, if we continue to get dominated and
the uncompared against any top third team that did ten
across the offensive line. This is going nowhere. It's just
going nowhere, and it's got to change. You know, they

(30:09):
know it. It just it just you can't do you
can't just be absolutely competitive and we were not competitive?

Speaker 2 (30:15):
How much Scott? Let me ask you a question, Greg,
I want you to take on this too. How much
of a little bit of a break do we give
Jed middle of year two, still dealing with the rebuild
after the roster got blown to bits a year and
a half ago. Is anybody I'm just tossing this out
there for discussion, guys and Scott, we can get your
thoughts and then we're gonna hang up and move on. Okay,
Is there any part of your bones and your body

(30:37):
that wants to give Jed a little bit of some
slack considering what he inherited or are we way beyond
that now at this point in your opinion?

Speaker 10 (30:46):
Last year absolutely, he was you know, trying to do
spring training or spring you know camp with you know,
broomsticks and et cetera. This year they're they're better, obviously.
But if we're having this conversation running from tonight, there
are you know, huge flags going.

Speaker 2 (31:00):
Off and that are right now, yes, yes.

Speaker 10 (31:03):
Yeah, and right now you're you're you know again, anything
to change in the Euros the portal, but you're asking
to make a monster jump in twelve months and I'm
just I'm a little concern about that.

Speaker 4 (31:12):
Yeah, okay, And then finally and I'll.

Speaker 10 (31:14):
Say this in ten seconds and be off the airs.
That you know, having Danzel back there field punts is
absolutely one trillion percent not worth three ward versus the risk.
And we got bit by at night. And it's the
same reason you don't play, you know, demand up forty
against Duc Davis going into the fourth or get Jonah,
you know, six more yards with three minutes up twenty

(31:36):
against you know, Colorado State, et cetera. That is that
is one thing on him. And you know, go ask
your commanders with James Daniels how that worked out last summer.
So hope he learns And that's all I got. Thank you, guys.

Speaker 2 (31:50):
Greg.

Speaker 3 (31:51):
Well, I'm not at the point where I'm questioning do
we have the right cult or anything like that. I
think that consistency and you know, having the same coaching
staff continuing to build, knowing the strengths of the team,
the weakness of the team implementing his program. Getting you know,

(32:13):
kids that are going to stay because the coach is
going to stay are super important for a program. So
I'm not at the point where I'm questioning whether Jed
Fish is the guy or not. I think it's part
of like you said, the building process.

Speaker 4 (32:26):
And all those things.

Speaker 3 (32:28):
I think we have to always give the coach an
opportunity to get better. We talk about players who grow
get better and you know, improve over time. I think
we have to give the coach the offer the same
opportunity to be able to do that. So I'm not
at this point where I'm talking about whether or not
we have the right coach. I think where we are
right now, you know, will be determined. You know, how

(32:51):
satisfied we are by the end of the year. Do
we win nine games or do we win seven games?

Speaker 4 (32:56):
Win seven?

Speaker 3 (32:57):
I think you considered that a disappointment. Only one better
last year. I think that's a disappointment. I think we
have to make some progress and get the eight and
nine wins hopefully, But I don't think that we're at
the point where we're questioning whether or not we hired
the write codes well.

Speaker 2 (33:11):
I think you know, getting a CFP would have been
almost an unbelievably ridiculous jumper from where they were a
year ago to where they would be this year. Can
they win? Can they win nine? You know? Can they
win in or nine? Can they knock out Purdue and
UCLA and get to eight and then in one of
their final two games find a way to win a
ninth three or in a ten game. I mean, those
things are still there for this football team, but like
you said earlier, they still absolutely need to figure out

(33:34):
a way to play better football on the road. About
just look like a totally different team. Honestly, they look
unprepared to go on the road. They look like they
are completely out of sorts. They look like they're almost
frightened to go on the road and play a football game,
which I'm not saying that's the case. I'm saying they
look like that. They look like they're not prepared to
play a football game. They look like they're overwhelmed on

(33:55):
the road. They look like they're out of answers from
the sideline when they go on the road. And none
of those things that's may be true. I'm just talking
about the perception and what the product speaks to when
you watch it in person. I mean again, the Maryland game. Look,
the Maryland game in the end was a nice win,
but there's no reason for them to come out of
the gates like that against the Maryland football team.

Speaker 11 (34:15):
That did.

Speaker 4 (34:15):
They lose to.

Speaker 2 (34:16):
Rutgers today, by the way, I think they did. I
think Maryland went on the road and lost the Rutgers
this afternoon. Yeah, thirty five to twenty. So that's that's
a four and five football team.

Speaker 10 (34:25):
Man.

Speaker 2 (34:25):
I mean I again, if we're gonna be throwing parades
and parties in Seattle for going on the road and
knocking off a fei and five football team and having
to bust our ass to do it, by the way,
and with a huge comeback in the second half, that
we got to raise our standards around here.

Speaker 4 (34:39):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (34:40):
You know, it's perplexing to me how we can look
so different offensively on the road than we do at home. Yeah,
and you know, some of the opponents. I don't think
it's the opponent necessarily, because you know, you can't convince
me that Wisconsin and Maryland are these juggernaut football of
course not or so, you know, I think Illinois is

(35:01):
a better program than both of them easily, and how
we can dominate Illinois and Illinois if it wasn't for
a decor to grave drop catch, we are probably perfect
on offense in the first half where we score every possession.
Then we come on the road and we play a
Wisconsin team who the defense, you know, okay, they're mediocre,

(35:22):
they're not a great defense, they're okay, yeah, and we
can't score more than three because I'm gonna be honest
with you, we scored three points today. We did not
score teens correct block punt on the one yard games.

Speaker 2 (35:34):
And a lot of people will look at the fumble
by Demon Williams is a key turning point the game,
and that's fair for a key turning point. But you
had so many other opportunities, as you said earlier in
the game, to put up points on this defense, and
you could not do it. If you do your job
earlier in the game, if you convert those drives, if
you get inside there Wisconsin forty and you put points,

(35:56):
and you put touchdowns up on the board, we're not
even talking and about the fun beating meaningful, but you
made it meaningful by the way you played in the
first half. All right, Travis, who's next? You want to
do a little Evan and Seattle? Does that work? Evan,
You're up next on the Husky Hawks post game from Madison.
Go ahead, man, what's up? Guys?

Speaker 4 (36:15):
You got me?

Speaker 2 (36:16):
Yeah? Got you? All right?

Speaker 7 (36:18):
Thanks for taking a call. Look, I'm just I'm I'm
massively disappointed. I mean, in my view, this is the
worst loss for Husky football since Montana in twenty twenty one.
And you're going up against an absolutely a knee mic offense.
And like Greg said earlier, I'm not I'm not putting
an ounce of blame on the defense for this game.
I mean, Wisconsin had two just over two hundred yards

(36:39):
total offense, forty eight passes. You know their leading passer
was their punter, their.

Speaker 2 (36:43):
Punter, Yes, yes, we did know that they had. They
had forty eight. They had forty eight yards passing, Evan,
and twenty four came from their punter.

Speaker 7 (36:53):
Yeah. It's disgusting, man. And I keep coming back to
three plays in this game that really just irked me. First,
that fifty one yard field goal attempt in the snow. Look,
I love Grady, but I don't feel confident with him
kicking a fifty one yard or in the sun with
zero wind with you you know, Dad will go out

(37:15):
there in the snow and do it from fifty one.
What was it, fourth and five, Just go for it there, yeah, yeah, yeah,
and then yeah, the last two plays, the last two
plays for the offense before they turn it over on downs,
I think it was third and six, they take a
deep shot. I don't know what that was all about.
You know, you have to go for it on fourth
if you get to it, so just take you know,
take a short yard is making it easier fourth down,

(37:39):
and they don't. They take the deep shot, and then
it's fourth and six, and I don't know, it looked
like it was maybe a designed run and you know,
Demon steps up and there was nothing there and he
barely gets back to the line of scrimmage. So, I mean,
it was just a wildly disappointing game, disappointing end of
the game, disappointing effort by the coaches, and I'm just

(37:59):
I'm disgusting.

Speaker 2 (38:00):
Yeah, the Grady Gross field goal is perplexing. I don't
know if there's any other way to put that. Man,
I mean, I'm because I'm totally with Evan. By the
way they the confidence level and them nailing that on Maui, uh,
with no win whatsoever in eighty five degree weather is
probably low to begin with. And now you're talking about
doing it with the wind swirling and the snow coming down. Man,

(38:21):
So that that that definitely was a head scratcher for Yeah.

Speaker 3 (38:24):
I'm looking out here right now and there's still a
substantial amount of snow falling. Yeah, and it's kind of
whisking around. It's it's, it's and and where we were
kicking the field goal, the wind was blown against us, right,
So I don't know that that field goal had any
real great chance of going in, you know.

Speaker 2 (38:41):
And again it ain't been stuffed anyway. Yeah, but give
yourself a shot.

Speaker 3 (38:44):
But I think the whole offensive performance is a factor,
you know, from more than just you know, the play calling.
I think the offensive line has struggled on the road.
Whether injuries has been the main factor of that or not,
it's true. I think Demand has been extremely less accurate
throwing on the road than he has been at home.

(39:05):
And then you know, you throw all this snow and
rain we talked about in the pregame. You got to
get the lead and have these guys not believe in themselves,
knowing that you have the elements working for you in
that case, Well, we had the exact opposite. Once they
got the lead thirteen to ten, and we had two
or three drives at the end of the football game,
it was tough for us to really get in sync

(39:26):
and get anything going right and right. All of this
stuff mattered at that point.

Speaker 2 (39:30):
Well, Demon had the one pick right going to Robot
here in the corner, so overall he had because he
had the touchdown to Denzel. The one yard toss to Denzel,
which is obviously a little bit of a more difficult
pass than the one yard play makes it sound like
he had to throw it up there in the corner.
But he's got seven touchdowns and five interceptions on the road.
He's got eight touchdowns and no picks at home for

(39:51):
different Amon Williams. So he's a different guy, all right. Well,
come back, wrap up the postgame show. Got a few
calls to get to your next life from Madison. Right
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Speaker 2 (40:48):
All right back here inside Camp Randall Stadium. Huskies lose
thirteen to ten. Somewhere, somehow, there's somebody who did not
see the game today and they're just turning on the
radio now and said, what come on, that's true. Husky's
lost to Wisconsin. A formerly zero to five Big Ten team,
is now one in five on the year after a
thirteen to ten loss to the Wisconsin Badgers. Halftime Alabama

(41:15):
in Tuscaloosa, leading LSU seventeen to three, Wake Forest late
third quarter leading Number fourteen Virginia thirteen to nine. California
on the road in Kentucky, tied with number fifteen Louisville
twenty twenty late third and number ten Notre Dame over
Navy twenty eight to ten. Texas A and M did
knock out Missouri thirty eight to seventeen the final. Today,

(41:39):
the Defensive Player of the Game Bring the hyperheat. Defensive
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we just go with Anthony Ward. He's a linebacker. He
was playing on special teams. Greg, he got the block
on the punt that led to the touchdown. Let's just
go with fifty seven. You cool that seven?

Speaker 4 (41:59):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (42:02):
Gotcha? Gotcha. Jacob Blaine had a sack too, so good,
very good for him. Keith in federal Way, Keith, you're
on with us? Go ahead, man? How are you?

Speaker 4 (42:11):
Oh?

Speaker 11 (42:11):
I'm not doing great. H That was a miserable game
to watch. I have a couple of things that really
frustrate me. The punter has got to be the worst
punter in all college football. I don't know why he's
still starting. He's horrible. He's killed us in this game.
The special teams in general, just killed us. But the
offense makes no sense to me. We have one of
the best offenses in the country if they play like that,

(42:33):
But he plays like we're an NFL team where you've
got to take time off the clock instead of maximizing
the amount of possessions and spread the team out. I
don't get. It's not the NFL. They don't have NFL players.
They have two really good freshman linebackers. Spread them out
and see what they do in space. Instead, he puts
everything in the box and takes every second off the clock.

(42:53):
It makes no sense, especially when they can't score it.

Speaker 4 (42:56):
It's weird.

Speaker 9 (42:57):
And to even throw the.

Speaker 11 (42:59):
Ball in the second half me no tense. She sort
of ran out every play you won the game. So
I just don't understand the coach at all, and especially teams.
Guy needs to be fired.

Speaker 10 (43:06):
He's horrible.

Speaker 4 (43:07):
Yeah, yeah, that's Keith. Keith.

Speaker 2 (43:09):
I appreciate the call, and Greg, I kind of generally
agree with what you said that, Hey, they were conservative tonight, right.
I mean, there's gonna be one or two plays where
you do have to take a little bit of a
chance and maybe kind of stretch the envelope a little bit,
you know, you're not going to go every single play.
They ran sixty eight plays tonight, and I would say
in the conservative category, you could argue maybe sixty of them,

(43:30):
maybe ninety percent were of the conservative variety.

Speaker 3 (43:33):
Yeah, I think Adam Muhammet in the second half, you know,
had a fair amount of carries. I think we asked
him to run down heel. He's not going to make
a bunch of plays to the outside, but I thought
he broke, broke some tackles and ran hard. So I
think you know, in the elements and against the team
you're playing, when you know they're that that dynamic, you

(43:54):
are conservative. I just think for whatever reason, our offense
in the times where we really need them, I think
they were thirty one down.

Speaker 2 (44:03):
Conversions and they're very good in that category generally.

Speaker 3 (44:07):
Right in those situations, you've got to be able to
get first downs.

Speaker 4 (44:10):
And I think.

Speaker 3 (44:11):
Field position was a huge part of this football game.
When you are starting drives less than the twenty yard
line and you are having to go all the way
down the field, it's going to make it tough sledding, especially,
And you know we've talked about Wisconsin doesn't have a
bad defense.

Speaker 4 (44:26):
Their defense is pretty good, and.

Speaker 3 (44:28):
It was a tough, tough game for us, and then
you throw the elements in there and again, for whatever reason,
we have just not been able to be consistently good
and make the big play when we've been on the
road and we've missed some opportunities, we missed some wide
open guys, we've had some turnovers, we've done some things
offensively that have set us back on the road. So

(44:51):
that tied with the field position in the conditions. Your
offense today just did not show up.

Speaker 2 (44:56):
All right, Evan in Seattle. Evan, you're the last chance
at hope for this radio program tonight. Sam. Sorry, Sam
is the last hope Sam? We thought it was Evan.
Now it's Sam. Go ahead, Sam, Sam.

Speaker 9 (45:08):
From sho can Yes, sir, Hey, how are you guys?
Greg Lewis, You're a legend.

Speaker 7 (45:14):
Thank you for taking my call.

Speaker 3 (45:16):
When it comes down to it, traveling and playing away games,
like where does that fall on?

Speaker 9 (45:22):
Like on team captains? Because we show up and we're
just nothing, and so I just my question is when
you played, who took the initiative to say, hey, we
got to get this win. So I love you guys,
that's my question.

Speaker 4 (45:40):
Yeah, I think it starts with the coaching staff.

Speaker 3 (45:42):
One remove as many distractions as absolutely possible. Create a
road game scenario where even though you're not at home,
you're not you know, staying over at the hotel that
you're you know, staying at home games and all of
that stuff. You make it as consistent as it it
possibly can for the road games, and then it up

(46:04):
to the players to not get distracted, not to worry about,
you know, meeting folks down in the lobby at the
hotel and you know, being in a different environment and
all of that, and allowing the elements to be an
issue in your brain, allowing the crowd to get into
your head. You know, I'm not sure if it was
because the crowd wasn't super thick here, although they were

(46:24):
a good crowd, but we had the false starts, you know,
our offensive line was jumping off sides. So there's an
element of this team where the players have to be
accountable to making sure that they don't get out of
what they normally would do from a mindset and a
being prepared perspective. But it all starts with the coaches,

(46:45):
and these guys have to figure out a way, you know,
what is it that makes our team different wearing the road.
How do we get them off of it out and
onto some consistent because we know this offense is better,
We've seen it. We've seen these guys be dynamic. And
I know Jonahkomba went down for a little bit and
we had Denzel bust go down for a minute. But
our quarterback and our office of line do not look

(47:07):
the same on the road as they do it well.

Speaker 2 (47:09):
And look, I mean again, this is a thing until
it's not right. And Jed spent the entire offseason talking
about this that we got. We got to get the
road situation figured out. We're talking to this guy, We're
talking to that guy. We're talking to nutritionists, we're talking
to airplane pilots, we're talking to the guys that built
the planes at Boeing. We're talking to the Seahawks and
Mike McDonald about how to win games on the road.
I mean, Jed did not shy away at all over

(47:32):
the offseason about how much emphasis they put on winning
games on the road. And maybe they put too much
emphasis on it. Maybe they making it a thing, kind
of let it become a thing. I don't know. I mean,
you can almost excuse year one because you had this
crazy patchwork roster together that you know, was kind of
trying to figure things out. Last year was all about survival.
Now this year is about taking that next step. So

(47:55):
maybe they did put two bunch emphasis on it. But
we're sitting here on the eighth and November, uh, and
it's still a thing. It has not been fixed yet,
and that is one of the maybe the number one
thing this football team is gonna have to do over
the offseason is figure out how to survive in this conference.
I appreciate honestly that Jedfish is not bitching and moaning

(48:16):
about travel the way some other coaches are in the
Pact in the Big Ten. But in the end, it's
all about wins and losses. You want to bitch, fine,
win games. You don't bitch and lose games. I'd rather
have you bitch and win games.

Speaker 3 (48:27):
Saltie, we just lost to a bad wisconsinence, terrible, and
there's a problem use for it. And that tells me
is we have not solved the on the road we
did States Maryland. You know what a impossible or not
necessarily possible, but real dramatic second half performance or fourth

(48:47):
quarter but we're still struggling when we go on the road.
Now in this conference, no doubt, no doubt, how to
figure that out?

Speaker 2 (48:54):
All right, man, good stuff, Greg Lewis, Stave, Satia Maler,
Travis Muger back in the studio. That's it for US
Huskies lose. It's thirteen ten. We'll talk to you Monday
at three o'clock on ninety three three kji RFM.

Speaker 4 (49:03):
Bye God Dougs.