May 7, 2025 • 4 mins
Today the Conclave to select the new Pope has officially begun. Fox News Radio's Jonathan Savage joins us from the Vatican to discuss the process and how long it could take.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is West Michigan's Morning News. Steve Kelly and Brett
Bakita to the Vatican with Fox News Radios. Jonathan Savage,
thanks for joining us today.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
Hello, good morning, heard from.
Speaker 1 (00:09):
A cardinal before top of the hour news as they
shut the door at the Sistine Chapel to invote the
Holy Spirit to help talk to us about the process
to help pick the next pope.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
Yeah, that's right. The Vatican simpy is all ready. The
red curtains are on the paper balcony in the Sistine
Chapel has its temporary chimney, and it's thrown through that
chimney that either black or white smoke will emerge to
tell us whether they have or haven't got a new pope.
Later today, in around about what four hours three hours
(00:41):
from now, the cardinals will convene inside the Systeine Chapel
and they will likely hold their first vote. One hundred
and thirty three cardinals, and in order to become pope,
one candidate needs to get sixty seven percent of the vote.
With a suspected five or six potential candidates. It's not
thought they were going to get a new pope today,
but if we do, there will be thousands upon thousands
(01:03):
of people here with me in St. Peter Square, come
tea time.
Speaker 1 (01:06):
Yeah, it is. It's, for lack of a better term,
a spectator sport too, right as there are millions of
Catholics worldwide, Christians too that keep an eye on such
things and come there to the Vatican.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
Oh absolutely, and to serve those people worldwide. There is
an absolute array of the world's media. And I'm just
looking at dozens of one dozens of journalists, TV reporters
doing pieces to camera, people doing vox pops with a
tourists who are passing through, and many people of course
who are tourists just happen to be here and can't
believe there are lucks and they're here in the Vatican City.
(01:42):
It's such a historic moment. But people are still able
to pass their security to enter some Peach Square and
to go right into inside St. Peter's the Silica where
they can't of course go is that other world famous
tourist attractions, the Sistine.
Speaker 3 (01:58):
Chapel, Jonathan, what about protocol with this? You mentioned votes,
and it could happen whenever they get to that sixty
seven percent? Are there rules as far as how many
votes they can have in a day, or I mean,
is it just kind of an ongoing thing today?
Speaker 2 (02:13):
There's likely one vote after today, a maximum of four
votes in a day, two in the morning and two
in the afternoon, and we will see smoke from the
chimney a maximum of twice a day at the end
of the morning or the end of the afternoon session. Now,
if the very first vote, for example, results in a
pope tomorrow morning, we will see white smoke, probably around
(02:35):
ten thirty am. If not, we'll have to wait till
more noon local time.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
It's a high profile case going on now where the
jury was just sent back for deliberations. It's kind of
the same thing. You got close, go back and do
it again. And there's no way to even guess how
long this could take, right, Jonathan.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
No, you want to go back a thousand years. There
was a conclave that lasted three years, most recently the
lasted day or two. I think most people are expecting
a result round about a Thursday evening at Rome time,
so I think early afternoon tomorrow your time. But of
course there's no guarantee of that, and people are saying
this is the least predictable conclave they can remember.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
You know, to figure out how serious something is, you
look at your doctor or the nurses or physical assistance.
What's the mood of that place when you look around
at the staff, at the people that work at the
bat Again, I.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
Think it's excitement. I think that people are excited about
what's going to come next for the church. It is
the mystery of it is adding to the excitement, the
fact that nobody really knows what's going to happen. And
you know, I'll look around and you know, if you
come to Rome, the pope isn't just someone who appears
in a balcony or conduct the mass every so often.
(03:49):
Their face is everywhere. There's merchandise with the boats based
on it. They come possibly the most famous person, the
most famous man in the world at that point. So
to see a new pope and I'm appointed, you know,
people are, they can't wait to experience this more in history.
Speaker 1 (04:06):
Two gift shops, one in the Vatican, one just outside
the door that I saw. Jonathan Savage with Fox News
Radio brings some stuff back in Rome this morning. Thanks
for your time.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
Thank you
This is West Michigan's Morning News. Steve Kelly and Brett
Bakita to the Vatican with Fox News Radios. Jonathan Savage,
thanks for joining us today.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
Hello, good morning, heard from.
Speaker 1 (00:09):
A cardinal before top of the hour news as they
shut the door at the Sistine Chapel to invote the
Holy Spirit to help talk to us about the process
to help pick the next pope.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
Yeah, that's right. The Vatican simpy is all ready. The
red curtains are on the paper balcony in the Sistine
Chapel has its temporary chimney, and it's thrown through that
chimney that either black or white smoke will emerge to
tell us whether they have or haven't got a new pope.
Later today, in around about what four hours three hours
(00:41):
from now, the cardinals will convene inside the Systeine Chapel
and they will likely hold their first vote. One hundred
and thirty three cardinals, and in order to become pope,
one candidate needs to get sixty seven percent of the vote.
With a suspected five or six potential candidates. It's not
thought they were going to get a new pope today,
but if we do, there will be thousands upon thousands
(01:03):
of people here with me in St. Peter Square, come
tea time.
Speaker 1 (01:06):
Yeah, it is. It's, for lack of a better term,
a spectator sport too, right as there are millions of
Catholics worldwide, Christians too that keep an eye on such
things and come there to the Vatican.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
Oh absolutely, and to serve those people worldwide. There is
an absolute array of the world's media. And I'm just
looking at dozens of one dozens of journalists, TV reporters
doing pieces to camera, people doing vox pops with a
tourists who are passing through, and many people of course
who are tourists just happen to be here and can't
believe there are lucks and they're here in the Vatican City.
(01:42):
It's such a historic moment. But people are still able
to pass their security to enter some Peach Square and
to go right into inside St. Peter's the Silica where
they can't of course go is that other world famous
tourist attractions, the Sistine.
Speaker 3 (01:58):
Chapel, Jonathan, what about protocol with this? You mentioned votes,
and it could happen whenever they get to that sixty
seven percent? Are there rules as far as how many
votes they can have in a day, or I mean,
is it just kind of an ongoing thing today?
Speaker 2 (02:13):
There's likely one vote after today, a maximum of four
votes in a day, two in the morning and two
in the afternoon, and we will see smoke from the
chimney a maximum of twice a day at the end
of the morning or the end of the afternoon session. Now,
if the very first vote, for example, results in a
pope tomorrow morning, we will see white smoke, probably around
(02:35):
ten thirty am. If not, we'll have to wait till
more noon local time.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
It's a high profile case going on now where the
jury was just sent back for deliberations. It's kind of
the same thing. You got close, go back and do
it again. And there's no way to even guess how
long this could take, right, Jonathan.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
No, you want to go back a thousand years. There
was a conclave that lasted three years, most recently the
lasted day or two. I think most people are expecting
a result round about a Thursday evening at Rome time,
so I think early afternoon tomorrow your time. But of
course there's no guarantee of that, and people are saying
this is the least predictable conclave they can remember.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
You know, to figure out how serious something is, you
look at your doctor or the nurses or physical assistance.
What's the mood of that place when you look around
at the staff, at the people that work at the
bat Again, I.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
Think it's excitement. I think that people are excited about
what's going to come next for the church. It is
the mystery of it is adding to the excitement, the
fact that nobody really knows what's going to happen. And
you know, I'll look around and you know, if you
come to Rome, the pope isn't just someone who appears
in a balcony or conduct the mass every so often.
(03:49):
Their face is everywhere. There's merchandise with the boats based
on it. They come possibly the most famous person, the
most famous man in the world at that point. So
to see a new pope and I'm appointed, you know,
people are, they can't wait to experience this more in history.
Speaker 1 (04:06):
Two gift shops, one in the Vatican, one just outside
the door that I saw. Jonathan Savage with Fox News
Radio brings some stuff back in Rome this morning. Thanks
for your time.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
Thank you
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