May 8, 2025 • 4 mins
Fox News Radio's Jonathan Savage joins us to discuss what the Vatican is like on the second day of Conclave.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is West Michigan's morning News. Steve Kelly, Brett Makita.
Let's go to the Vatican. Fox News Radios Jonathan Savage.
Some breaking news in the last half hour as day
number two of the conclave is underway. A good day,
or at least the voting. Good day to you, kind sir.
Speaker 3 (00:19):
Hello, we have.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
Black smoke again. That's our second round of voting.
Speaker 3 (00:24):
Yes, that was, in fact the third round of voting.
The way we'll work this morning is, if there was
a pope elected in the second round, we would have
seen the white smoke straight away. But if there was
no pope elected until the end, if there were no
cop elected in either the second or the third round,
they went until the third round to emit the black smoke.
That means two rounds this morning, no pope elected, black smoke,
(00:46):
and now they all take a break for lunch. They'll
come back later in the afternoon for up to two
more rounds of voting. We don't know just how close
they are to get into that crucial sixty seven percent
mark for one candidate. It's all happening in the utmost secrecy,
and that just sort of adds to the ambience of
mystery and bewilderment, never mind excitement here in the Vatican City.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
Yeah, it's packed.
Speaker 1 (01:08):
When you see the pictures you're there, is there a
gasp from the crowd when the black smoke comes out,
and then a din of chatter.
Speaker 3 (01:18):
A real swell of excitement, you know, the Italian sae fumata.
People go smoke smoke, They rush forward, they get their
cameras up, They just look to see what color of
smoke it is, and they take a moment just to
confirm in their heads that it is black smoke. Many
hoping for that historic moment when white smoke comes out
of the chimney. I was actually in the press center
at the time, and the excitement was just as Kinley
(01:41):
fell there as it was twenty yards away outside that door.
Speaker 4 (01:45):
So, Jonathan, I got to ask you, and maybe you
don't know the answer in this. I don't know if
the cardinals of Assed have spoken of this or not.
Is is it like American politics or anywhere else where?
Like if you are backing a cardinal to be the
next pope, but let's say he doesn't get a lot
of votes or a lot of people behind him, then
(02:06):
they start to rally with other packs to try to
get the person that they want.
Speaker 3 (02:10):
Yeah, I think it is quite like a presidential primary
in some ways. Obviously much happens over a much shorter
period of time. But if your Candaida isn't getting a
lot of votes, then you might talk to your Canada
and they might say, look, vote for this guy. They're
pretty close to me. Let's stop the other guy getting in.
Let's all pack together and get our philosophy into the pontificate.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
So according to the article that I'm reading on Fox News,
there are a couple of favorites. Are those even talked
about out in the open there?
Speaker 4 (02:38):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (02:38):
Yeah, I mean they are talked about. I mean I
was talking to the American preach yesterday, so he wouldn't
say who his favorite was, but he would certainly say
that the people are mentioned again and again, such as
Cardonal Parallene, the former Secretary of State at the Vatican
under Pot Francis. One person who is a favorite for many,
perhaps because they are likely to be Pope, but perhaps
(02:59):
just because of his is Cardinal Pierre Batista Pizza Bala.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
No, boy, it's hard. It's so hard.
Speaker 1 (03:06):
If you've got pizza in your name, it is so
hard Schmidty talked earlier about this camera. We're living in
a world now where there is a camera trained on
the chimney and it's the seagulls that are getting a
ton of attention.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
And I just saw one fly by that same camera.
Speaker 3 (03:26):
Yeah, the seagulls. For last night, we had to wait
about nineteen minutes, two hours longer than we expected for
the black smoke, and we all wondered why. But in
the meantime the seagulls were providing the entertainment. There was
one particularly attention loving seagull which must have been there
for about five or six minutes before flying off, and
it got around of the flows when it moved away too.
So I mean, yeah, people are making their own fun
(03:48):
as they wait for the big event to happen.
Speaker 4 (03:51):
So, Jonathan, any irony here that they're breaking for lunch
and with that cardinal you just mentioned with his name,
oh boy, Yeah, can we have white smoke after lunch?
Speaker 2 (04:00):
No, don't say it.
Speaker 3 (04:01):
I have no idea how to answer that question. I'm
not even sure you were looking first.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
The question.
Speaker 3 (04:11):
Let me let me let me answer it this way.
The last two popes were elected on the afternoon of
the second Day that if that could happen again. However,
this is quite an unpredictable conflict, so we really don't know.
But history would suggest that we're getting closer to the
time when we have a pope.
Speaker 4 (04:27):
Yeah, and for the record, by the way, you asked
about the seagull camp. I'm asking about something that Jonathan brought.
Speaker 1 (04:34):
Up, disrespect If my priest is listening, that is Jonathan
Savage with Fox News Radio at the Vatican this morning.
Thanks for your time today.
Speaker 3 (04:43):
Thank you
This is West Michigan's morning News. Steve Kelly, Brett Makita.
Let's go to the Vatican. Fox News Radios Jonathan Savage.
Some breaking news in the last half hour as day
number two of the conclave is underway. A good day,
or at least the voting. Good day to you, kind sir.
Speaker 3 (00:19):
Hello, we have.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
Black smoke again. That's our second round of voting.
Speaker 3 (00:24):
Yes, that was, in fact the third round of voting.
The way we'll work this morning is, if there was
a pope elected in the second round, we would have
seen the white smoke straight away. But if there was
no pope elected until the end, if there were no
cop elected in either the second or the third round,
they went until the third round to emit the black smoke.
That means two rounds this morning, no pope elected, black smoke,
(00:46):
and now they all take a break for lunch. They'll
come back later in the afternoon for up to two
more rounds of voting. We don't know just how close
they are to get into that crucial sixty seven percent
mark for one candidate. It's all happening in the utmost secrecy,
and that just sort of adds to the ambience of
mystery and bewilderment, never mind excitement here in the Vatican City.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
Yeah, it's packed.
Speaker 1 (01:08):
When you see the pictures you're there, is there a
gasp from the crowd when the black smoke comes out,
and then a din of chatter.
Speaker 3 (01:18):
A real swell of excitement, you know, the Italian sae fumata.
People go smoke smoke, They rush forward, they get their
cameras up, They just look to see what color of
smoke it is, and they take a moment just to
confirm in their heads that it is black smoke. Many
hoping for that historic moment when white smoke comes out
of the chimney. I was actually in the press center
at the time, and the excitement was just as Kinley
(01:41):
fell there as it was twenty yards away outside that door.
Speaker 4 (01:45):
So, Jonathan, I got to ask you, and maybe you
don't know the answer in this. I don't know if
the cardinals of Assed have spoken of this or not.
Is is it like American politics or anywhere else where?
Like if you are backing a cardinal to be the
next pope, but let's say he doesn't get a lot
of votes or a lot of people behind him, then
(02:06):
they start to rally with other packs to try to
get the person that they want.
Speaker 3 (02:10):
Yeah, I think it is quite like a presidential primary
in some ways. Obviously much happens over a much shorter
period of time. But if your Candaida isn't getting a
lot of votes, then you might talk to your Canada
and they might say, look, vote for this guy. They're
pretty close to me. Let's stop the other guy getting in.
Let's all pack together and get our philosophy into the pontificate.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
So according to the article that I'm reading on Fox News,
there are a couple of favorites. Are those even talked
about out in the open there?
Speaker 4 (02:38):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (02:38):
Yeah, I mean they are talked about. I mean I
was talking to the American preach yesterday, so he wouldn't
say who his favorite was, but he would certainly say
that the people are mentioned again and again, such as
Cardonal Parallene, the former Secretary of State at the Vatican
under Pot Francis. One person who is a favorite for many,
perhaps because they are likely to be Pope, but perhaps
(02:59):
just because of his is Cardinal Pierre Batista Pizza Bala.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
No, boy, it's hard. It's so hard.
Speaker 1 (03:06):
If you've got pizza in your name, it is so
hard Schmidty talked earlier about this camera. We're living in
a world now where there is a camera trained on
the chimney and it's the seagulls that are getting a
ton of attention.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
And I just saw one fly by that same camera.
Speaker 3 (03:26):
Yeah, the seagulls. For last night, we had to wait
about nineteen minutes, two hours longer than we expected for
the black smoke, and we all wondered why. But in
the meantime the seagulls were providing the entertainment. There was
one particularly attention loving seagull which must have been there
for about five or six minutes before flying off, and
it got around of the flows when it moved away too.
So I mean, yeah, people are making their own fun
(03:48):
as they wait for the big event to happen.
Speaker 4 (03:51):
So, Jonathan, any irony here that they're breaking for lunch
and with that cardinal you just mentioned with his name,
oh boy, Yeah, can we have white smoke after lunch?
Speaker 2 (04:00):
No, don't say it.
Speaker 3 (04:01):
I have no idea how to answer that question. I'm
not even sure you were looking first.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
The question.
Speaker 3 (04:11):
Let me let me let me answer it this way.
The last two popes were elected on the afternoon of
the second Day that if that could happen again. However,
this is quite an unpredictable conflict, so we really don't know.
But history would suggest that we're getting closer to the
time when we have a pope.
Speaker 4 (04:27):
Yeah, and for the record, by the way, you asked
about the seagull camp. I'm asking about something that Jonathan brought.
Speaker 1 (04:34):
Up, disrespect If my priest is listening, that is Jonathan
Savage with Fox News Radio at the Vatican this morning.
Thanks for your time today.
Speaker 3 (04:43):
Thank you
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