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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Back on a Sunday for twenty This is what Matters
on six ten WTVN. Mindy is out, Joe Schmidtz with
Peek Retirement is in and Joe and I like in
passing most of the time, or like, have you read
this book?
Speaker 2 (00:13):
Have you listened to this podcast?
Speaker 1 (00:14):
And so I thought today we would talk hot topics
about some of the things that we're currently listening to.
And if you guys want to chime in on any
of these, you can about the concepts because we never
get a chance to talk about it.
Speaker 3 (00:28):
Let's do it.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
Let's do it.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
So you were saying before when we were in the break,
you have certain types of podcasts you listen to, so
tell us a little bit about that.
Speaker 4 (00:37):
I also listen to business and finance, kind of entrepreneurship,
how to run a business, how to grow and scale
a business. So that's a lot of what I listened to.
And you know, just here's the other fun fact about me.
So whenever I'm trying to explain someone like my personality
or how my mind works, or just how I run,
all I have to do is tell them one thing.
(00:57):
And I just tell them, I say, when I listen
the podcast, I listened to it at two time speed,
and as soon as I say that, they go, oh, wow,
you're crazy.
Speaker 3 (01:05):
But that's not what I do.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
I don't know if it's well, I'm not going to
say you're crazy.
Speaker 1 (01:09):
I listened to plenty of things at two time speed
because you value your time.
Speaker 3 (01:13):
You get to volt.
Speaker 4 (01:13):
It's more about volume, so quantity over quality, because when
you're listening to the type of podcast I listen to,
I'm only looking for nuggets. I'm not needing to understand
every single word, right, I just need to look at
that idea and okay, let me rewatch that now, let
me go back at one time speed, or this is
a great podcast, I need to listen to this again.
Speaker 3 (01:30):
So that's kind of where my mind goes.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
I do the same thing the one I'm gonna mention
to you today. I think I've listened. I'm on my
third time now because it's that good. But I want
to hear like so lately the last week, what are
some things like hot that are sticking with you that
have come up conceptually with all this?
Speaker 4 (01:45):
Yeah, So one podcast specifically that I absolutely love is
a Craig Grishell podcast, and he's a pastor and he
talks about leadership and he brings in really good guests,
so he has a lot of good content on that.
I'll probably actually be one you'd really enjoy.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
Craig or Greg Rishell, Craig Craig, Grischell.
Speaker 3 (02:02):
Yeah, Groshell, g r Oees I.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
Believe, Okay, And what some of the stuff he's been
talking about lately, I can't.
Speaker 3 (02:08):
Even recall because I listened to it two time speed.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
So you'll come back for the one time.
Speaker 4 (02:13):
But honestly, I just get nuggets, and what I get
the nuggets for is to like share with my team.
So like I'll go into a team meeting and say, hey,
I heard this on this podcast. Let's either look to
implement this or this can be something I can help,
you know, an individual grow or the team or department grow.
Speaker 3 (02:27):
Is a lot of where I go.
Speaker 4 (02:28):
But I'll tell you one thing, not necessarily podcasts related,
but a couple of weeks ago, I actually got to
hear Coach K speak, and I'm gonna ask you, do
you know how Coach K is?
Speaker 1 (02:37):
Yes, I can't, I can't say his name right now,
but yeah, the former Duke coach.
Speaker 4 (02:40):
Yeah, yep, yep, so big deal one of the winningest
coaches out I know who it is, and I actually
I got to do a meet and greet with him too,
very cool, shake his hand and sit there with him
for ten minutes and ask a bunch of questions about leadership.
And it's crazy when you listen to really successful people,
they don't say anything.
Speaker 3 (03:00):
It's crazy.
Speaker 4 (03:00):
All this stuff is fundamentals. It's all leadership and success
and culture. It's all fundamentals. It's just doing the right
thing over and over again, building.
Speaker 3 (03:07):
The right habits. But it's just so you just hang
on every word when someone like that says.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
It, because you really hang on to it, and you
want to keep it tucked in your mind so you
can go to it when you need it.
Speaker 4 (03:18):
Yeah, Yeah, and it just it just resonates like you
just you just remember it. It just it's just there. And
then all their success they've had, it's like you just
value their opinion way more than anyone else's. It's kind
of like the idea. You probably see this with your kids,
although you're a great mom, so I'm sure you don't.
But most of the time parents say, my kids don't
listen to me, but they listen to you.
Speaker 3 (03:38):
I'm saying the same Yes, yes.
Speaker 4 (03:40):
You know, everyone's saying the same thing, but they're going
to listen to someone else who's saying it versus the
parents saying it.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
I've been told that parents are the safe space, and
so the tendency to listen or to try to talk
back sometimes and things like that, that's what we see.
But they wouldn't do it to you, and they would
also listen to you. Yeah, so yeah, I've heard that before.
Speaker 3 (03:58):
Anyways, what's on your mind?
Speaker 2 (04:00):
You had a good that's actually a really good segue
to mind, do you? I take it? You know who
Mel Robbins is.
Speaker 1 (04:05):
You've heard of Mel Robbins, right, So I feel like
ten I love a good entrepreneurial podcast or book on tape,
and I think you and I share that from the
time that I had my business for three years and
I still do some things on the side sometimes, but
I really like stuff about emotional intelligence and relationship. Now
being a leader of a team of ten at the
(04:25):
Department of Commerce and all the innovative and different things
we've done in government over the course of the last
five years, so a lot about relationships emotional intelligence. So
Mel recently did a podcast, and it was called Harvard
Psychologists share six Words that will change your family Interesting
and so, but it could also change any relationship. And
(04:46):
here's what I'm going to tell you. I'm not going
to give everybody the entire six words, but here's what
I'll tell you. It talked about the cognitive flexibility of
different generations and how sometimes we can be challenged in
those regards. So how do you deal with someone who
can't take change easily or has to have a very
specific routine, whether it's an employee, your kid, and you
(05:11):
have There are six words, but there are actually three choices.
And when you're dealing with a kid, you can do
the adult thing and you can impose your will if
you feel like that's the way to go, but it
might not always be the way to go. You can
not care and walk away and that's the thing the
child wants you to do. Or you can choose kind
(05:34):
of the middle, which has to do with collaborating to
find a solution, and in that case, it's about validating
and reassuring before you find that solution and saying, are
you feeling like this is this what's going on right now?
Can you tell me? And then reassuring that child. Or again,
this can apply to employee, like I know you can
(05:56):
do this. I know this is not a will situation.
It might be a skill situation. So what tools do
you need?
Speaker 2 (06:03):
What do we need to set you up? It was
I had a friend send it to me.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
I listened to mel I don't listen to her on
a regular basis, but I had a good friend send
it to me, and I was telling Joe in the break,
this is like the third time I'm listening to it
right now because I do want to store that good
stuff in my head.
Speaker 3 (06:18):
It's one of tho.
Speaker 4 (06:18):
It seems like one of those podcasts too that's extremely deep,
and so that would be one you couldn't watch it
two time speed because it would just be too much
meat there. But I think emotional intelligence is so important.
The other thing I picked up there is human psychology
is a real thing, Like you know, the way you.
Speaker 3 (06:34):
Communicate to someone. It's so important.
Speaker 4 (06:36):
And we train our team of how to communicate with
our clients, especially around finances, because it's something that one
a lot of people don't know, and two it just
means so much to.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
Them and there is an emotional connection based on how
you were raised, what you've done with your life so far.
I'm sure I can only imagine the spectrum that's out there.
Speaker 4 (06:56):
Yeah, I mean I remember we've asked a client that
before of like what my means to you, Like what
was it like growing up?
Speaker 3 (07:02):
Yeah, and they told a story where basically.
Speaker 4 (07:04):
They had nothing growing up, and you know, they that's
why it means so much to him now because they
do have wealth now and they just preserve and worry
about it all the time because they never had it,
and so they're afraid it's going to go away and
go back.
Speaker 2 (07:16):
To where they were, and so talk about psychology.
Speaker 4 (07:19):
And so the decisions they make that's going to be
based on those emotions, and so you have to understand
that and make a decision. So, yeah, it's so important
to ask the right questions when dealing with people like that,
and you know, just phrasing it in the right way
as you're saying.
Speaker 1 (07:31):
So you're ready to laugh at me about my bubblegum,
But like very hot topic podcast, I'm going to tell
you about one other one's here gents talk. Yeah, I
haven't heard of this, so it's a total dude podcast.
If I say the name Justin Baldoni. Do you know
who I'm talking about? Do you know who Blake Lively is?
I do not, Oh my gosh. He but Chris is
nodding back there. Okay, so there is a very there's
(07:54):
a big legal brew haha right now over a movie
they may called It Ends with Us, which is on
Colleen Hoover's book, which was very popular. And he went
on to Jent's talk. He's getting sued by Blake and
then he counters to it, and he's also suing The
New York Times for like seventy million dollars because he
thinks they wrote a story that is not true. And
(08:15):
they were talking about sorry, is not enough healthy masculinity, it.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
Ends with Us? And more? What is healthy masculinity to you?
Speaker 3 (08:23):
Oh? Man, I have no idea.
Speaker 1 (08:28):
They were defining it about being a little being masculine,
but being able to be vulnerable as well.
Speaker 3 (08:33):
Yeah, I mean that can make sense.
Speaker 4 (08:35):
Obviously, men struggle with that, which I have a mixed
feeling on this. I think it's important, but I also
think that we shouldn't be overly vulnerable in a way
that pushed through and get through got to be tough
enough to push through and get through. I know there's
times you shouldn't do that.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
But resilience is really on your mind.
Speaker 4 (08:52):
Yes, exactly. Less resilience, grittiness like you got to have that.
You can't just always worry about all the little things
that pop up because life is extremely hard and if
people do that, they're never going to get through. And
so I'm a big believer that, yes, be vulnerable, but
you also got to push through little things.
Speaker 1 (09:08):
Oh that is going to be a great space to
go into with Anne Hurst a little bit later. I
cannot wait, especially with her on the line and me
being married for twenty years.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
This is July. We will do it. Push through to
get through and vulnerability, Okay, jellous.
Speaker 4 (09:22):
It's a hard balance, but it's definitely something worth a conversation.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
Yeah, And it's a really difficult balance.
Speaker 1 (09:27):
And I think relationships can be made or broken based
on your pattern of vulnerability versus good pushing through.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
Oh that is so good. Okay, more to come. This
is what matters on six ten WTV in
Back on a Sunday for twenty This is what Matters
on six ten WTVN. Mindy is out, Joe Schmidtz with
Peek Retirement is in and Joe and I like in
passing most of the time, or like, have you read
this book?
Speaker 2 (00:13):
Have you listened to this podcast?
Speaker 1 (00:14):
And so I thought today we would talk hot topics
about some of the things that we're currently listening to.
And if you guys want to chime in on any
of these, you can about the concepts because we never
get a chance to talk about it.
Speaker 3 (00:28):
Let's do it.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
Let's do it.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
So you were saying before when we were in the break,
you have certain types of podcasts you listen to, so
tell us a little bit about that.
Speaker 4 (00:37):
I also listen to business and finance, kind of entrepreneurship,
how to run a business, how to grow and scale
a business. So that's a lot of what I listened to.
And you know, just here's the other fun fact about me.
So whenever I'm trying to explain someone like my personality
or how my mind works, or just how I run,
all I have to do is tell them one thing.
(00:57):
And I just tell them, I say, when I listen
the podcast, I listened to it at two time speed,
and as soon as I say that, they go, oh, wow,
you're crazy.
Speaker 3 (01:05):
But that's not what I do.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
I don't know if it's well, I'm not going to
say you're crazy.
Speaker 1 (01:09):
I listened to plenty of things at two time speed
because you value your time.
Speaker 3 (01:13):
You get to volt.
Speaker 4 (01:13):
It's more about volume, so quantity over quality, because when
you're listening to the type of podcast I listen to,
I'm only looking for nuggets. I'm not needing to understand
every single word, right, I just need to look at
that idea and okay, let me rewatch that now, let
me go back at one time speed, or this is
a great podcast, I need to listen to this again.
Speaker 3 (01:30):
So that's kind of where my mind goes.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
I do the same thing the one I'm gonna mention
to you today. I think I've listened. I'm on my
third time now because it's that good. But I want
to hear like so lately the last week, what are
some things like hot that are sticking with you that
have come up conceptually with all this?
Speaker 4 (01:45):
Yeah, So one podcast specifically that I absolutely love is
a Craig Grishell podcast, and he's a pastor and he
talks about leadership and he brings in really good guests,
so he has a lot of good content on that.
I'll probably actually be one you'd really enjoy.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
Craig or Greg Rishell, Craig Craig, Grischell.
Speaker 3 (02:02):
Yeah, Groshell, g r Oees I.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
Believe, Okay, And what some of the stuff he's been
talking about lately, I can't.
Speaker 3 (02:08):
Even recall because I listened to it two time speed.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
So you'll come back for the one time.
Speaker 4 (02:13):
But honestly, I just get nuggets, and what I get
the nuggets for is to like share with my team.
So like I'll go into a team meeting and say, hey,
I heard this on this podcast. Let's either look to
implement this or this can be something I can help,
you know, an individual grow or the team or department grow.
Speaker 3 (02:27):
Is a lot of where I go.
Speaker 4 (02:28):
But I'll tell you one thing, not necessarily podcasts related,
but a couple of weeks ago, I actually got to
hear Coach K speak, and I'm gonna ask you, do
you know how Coach K is?
Speaker 1 (02:37):
Yes, I can't, I can't say his name right now,
but yeah, the former Duke coach.
Speaker 4 (02:40):
Yeah, yep, yep, so big deal one of the winningest
coaches out I know who it is, and I actually
I got to do a meet and greet with him too,
very cool, shake his hand and sit there with him
for ten minutes and ask a bunch of questions about leadership.
And it's crazy when you listen to really successful people,
they don't say anything.
Speaker 3 (03:00):
It's crazy.
Speaker 4 (03:00):
All this stuff is fundamentals. It's all leadership and success
and culture. It's all fundamentals. It's just doing the right
thing over and over again, building.
Speaker 3 (03:07):
The right habits. But it's just so you just hang
on every word when someone like that says.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
It, because you really hang on to it, and you
want to keep it tucked in your mind so you
can go to it when you need it.
Speaker 4 (03:18):
Yeah, Yeah, and it just it just resonates like you
just you just remember it. It just it's just there. And
then all their success they've had, it's like you just
value their opinion way more than anyone else's. It's kind
of like the idea. You probably see this with your kids,
although you're a great mom, so I'm sure you don't.
But most of the time parents say, my kids don't
listen to me, but they listen to you.
Speaker 3 (03:38):
I'm saying the same Yes, yes.
Speaker 4 (03:40):
You know, everyone's saying the same thing, but they're going
to listen to someone else who's saying it versus the
parents saying it.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
I've been told that parents are the safe space, and
so the tendency to listen or to try to talk
back sometimes and things like that, that's what we see.
But they wouldn't do it to you, and they would
also listen to you. Yeah, so yeah, I've heard that before.
Speaker 3 (03:58):
Anyways, what's on your mind?
Speaker 2 (04:00):
You had a good that's actually a really good segue
to mind, do you? I take it? You know who
Mel Robbins is.
Speaker 1 (04:05):
You've heard of Mel Robbins, right, So I feel like
ten I love a good entrepreneurial podcast or book on tape,
and I think you and I share that from the
time that I had my business for three years and
I still do some things on the side sometimes, but
I really like stuff about emotional intelligence and relationship. Now
being a leader of a team of ten at the
(04:25):
Department of Commerce and all the innovative and different things
we've done in government over the course of the last
five years, so a lot about relationships emotional intelligence. So
Mel recently did a podcast, and it was called Harvard
Psychologists share six Words that will change your family Interesting
and so, but it could also change any relationship. And
(04:46):
here's what I'm going to tell you. I'm not going
to give everybody the entire six words, but here's what
I'll tell you. It talked about the cognitive flexibility of
different generations and how sometimes we can be challenged in
those regards. So how do you deal with someone who
can't take change easily or has to have a very
specific routine, whether it's an employee, your kid, and you
(05:11):
have There are six words, but there are actually three choices.
And when you're dealing with a kid, you can do
the adult thing and you can impose your will if
you feel like that's the way to go, but it
might not always be the way to go. You can
not care and walk away and that's the thing the
child wants you to do. Or you can choose kind
(05:34):
of the middle, which has to do with collaborating to
find a solution, and in that case, it's about validating
and reassuring before you find that solution and saying, are
you feeling like this is this what's going on right now?
Can you tell me? And then reassuring that child. Or again,
this can apply to employee, like I know you can
(05:56):
do this. I know this is not a will situation.
It might be a skill situation. So what tools do
you need?
Speaker 2 (06:03):
What do we need to set you up? It was
I had a friend send it to me.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
I listened to mel I don't listen to her on
a regular basis, but I had a good friend send
it to me, and I was telling Joe in the break,
this is like the third time I'm listening to it
right now because I do want to store that good
stuff in my head.
Speaker 3 (06:18):
It's one of tho.
Speaker 4 (06:18):
It seems like one of those podcasts too that's extremely deep,
and so that would be one you couldn't watch it
two time speed because it would just be too much
meat there. But I think emotional intelligence is so important.
The other thing I picked up there is human psychology
is a real thing, Like you know, the way you.
Speaker 3 (06:34):
Communicate to someone. It's so important.
Speaker 4 (06:36):
And we train our team of how to communicate with
our clients, especially around finances, because it's something that one
a lot of people don't know, and two it just
means so much to.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
Them and there is an emotional connection based on how
you were raised, what you've done with your life so far.
I'm sure I can only imagine the spectrum that's out there.
Speaker 4 (06:56):
Yeah, I mean I remember we've asked a client that
before of like what my means to you, Like what
was it like growing up?
Speaker 3 (07:02):
Yeah, and they told a story where basically.
Speaker 4 (07:04):
They had nothing growing up, and you know, they that's
why it means so much to him now because they
do have wealth now and they just preserve and worry
about it all the time because they never had it,
and so they're afraid it's going to go away and
go back.
Speaker 2 (07:16):
To where they were, and so talk about psychology.
Speaker 4 (07:19):
And so the decisions they make that's going to be
based on those emotions, and so you have to understand
that and make a decision. So, yeah, it's so important
to ask the right questions when dealing with people like that,
and you know, just phrasing it in the right way
as you're saying.
Speaker 1 (07:31):
So you're ready to laugh at me about my bubblegum,
But like very hot topic podcast, I'm going to tell
you about one other one's here gents talk. Yeah, I
haven't heard of this, so it's a total dude podcast.
If I say the name Justin Baldoni. Do you know
who I'm talking about? Do you know who Blake Lively is?
I do not, Oh my gosh. He but Chris is
nodding back there. Okay, so there is a very there's
(07:54):
a big legal brew haha right now over a movie
they may called It Ends with Us, which is on
Colleen Hoover's book, which was very popular. And he went
on to Jent's talk. He's getting sued by Blake and
then he counters to it, and he's also suing The
New York Times for like seventy million dollars because he
thinks they wrote a story that is not true. And
(08:15):
they were talking about sorry, is not enough healthy masculinity, it.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
Ends with Us? And more? What is healthy masculinity to you?
Speaker 3 (08:23):
Oh? Man, I have no idea.
Speaker 1 (08:28):
They were defining it about being a little being masculine,
but being able to be vulnerable as well.
Speaker 3 (08:33):
Yeah, I mean that can make sense.
Speaker 4 (08:35):
Obviously, men struggle with that, which I have a mixed
feeling on this. I think it's important, but I also
think that we shouldn't be overly vulnerable in a way
that pushed through and get through got to be tough
enough to push through and get through. I know there's
times you shouldn't do that.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
But resilience is really on your mind.
Speaker 4 (08:52):
Yes, exactly. Less resilience, grittiness like you got to have that.
You can't just always worry about all the little things
that pop up because life is extremely hard and if
people do that, they're never going to get through. And
so I'm a big believer that, yes, be vulnerable, but
you also got to push through little things.
Speaker 1 (09:08):
Oh that is going to be a great space to
go into with Anne Hurst a little bit later. I
cannot wait, especially with her on the line and me
being married for twenty years.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
This is July. We will do it. Push through to
get through and vulnerability, Okay, jellous.
Speaker 4 (09:22):
It's a hard balance, but it's definitely something worth a conversation.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
Yeah, And it's a really difficult balance.
Speaker 1 (09:27):
And I think relationships can be made or broken based
on your pattern of vulnerability versus good pushing through.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
Oh that is so good. Okay, more to come. This
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