Willie B and James from Full Blown Kustoms talk welding with Sherm

Willie B and James from Full Blown Kustoms talk welding with Sherm

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:03):
Garage.

Speaker 2 (00:04):
Willie Bee's garage.

Speaker 1 (00:06):
Is now open. What up man, Welcome to y'all will
Be's garage. Hope you doing well? What a weird day? Hey,
bring up the wife, Scoop. We got James f full
blown customs up in the house. Mike Petiphord racing the
day he sends his best and man, you know how
difficult it is to do a Willy Be's garage show
and you leave your phone at home? Boom baby, Hey

(00:32):
you found my phone yet? Uh No, it's either out
there on the bar where we're chats, or it's still
in the nightstand.

Speaker 3 (00:41):
Okay, all right.

Speaker 1 (00:42):
Well look find it and then do me a favor.
There's a couple of numbers I need on there, and
I'll use scoops phone to text you the deal. Okay, okay,
all right, text Scoop when you found it. Delio high five.
Boom eleven.

Speaker 4 (01:04):
Hum, it's one of the spots that you just told me.

Speaker 1 (01:09):
Well, it's around there somewhere. Yeah, I'll find it. You know,
no man ever goes to the bathroom without taking this phone.
Oh you know where it might be. It might be
in the closet where you sit down on the thing
and I put it on the shelter. Yeah, uh all right,

(01:29):
well we'll be back in just a minute. Uh no.
But seriously, that was It's a lifesaver because you know nowadays, man,
it's your phone, forget about it. You don't have that.
I got on my boy's numbers on there. We're gonna
talk to this cat from East I named Chris Sherman.
They come sherm aka Sherminator. Pretty funny because he, uh,

(01:50):
he was kind of lifesaver at this adventure ride last
week to talk a lot about just welding ins and outs,
different ways, uh to attack of the day. And you
know what's crazy ooh, I had this interesting conversation too
this past a couple of days with with the wild
technology that's coming into the world of cars and three

(02:13):
D printable metals, and it is fascinating to see, you know,
just what's going on in the world.

Speaker 5 (02:20):
Man.

Speaker 1 (02:20):
We'll dive into a little bit today, especially when it
comes to welding. But James is here. James got a
cool little chunk of treat event we can be talking about.
It could be awesome. How you been, man, life's been
busy at Full Blown Custom. Full Blown Custom with a
k by the way. Uh yeah, man, working on some
cool cool. It's weird, man, because you guys do everything

(02:40):
from you know, modern technology, the classics, two street rods,
the insane, you know, pick up truck builds. You gotta
kind of do it all. If it's metal fabrication, that's
your uh, that's your thing. Yeah, it's a lost art,
but it's cool. How many cars you got in the
shop right now? Get right up on there, so we got.

Speaker 6 (03:02):
To have them.

Speaker 7 (03:02):
We got five in the shop right now and handful
lined up in the pipeline ready to come in.

Speaker 1 (03:07):
So it's awesome. All right, man, let's take this break.
We'll dive into its seven nine kvpi.

Speaker 2 (03:16):
Willybe's garage. You're back in Willybe's garage.

Speaker 1 (03:23):
What up, y'all? Would it be his garage? Welcome to
it every Saturday, man. We got a great one on deck.
I love it when it's quote seasonably high. It's a blast, man,
all kinds of it was great because just on the
way in this morning, I was a little panic because
I left my phone. I had to get a hold
of the wifey bear and be like, yo, I need
some numbers. But at the same time, it was easy

(03:45):
to notice a lot of people had out hot rides,
the bust cars. The modern muscle was a good day
for it. I saw this, sick. It's a Mercedes AMG five.
What was that five fifty gt or whatever? Little bubble
teardrop looking car with a big Sporter fin on. It
looks like something Porsche would throw at you. Nasty nasty

(04:06):
V eight super charge deal at the light like a supercar.
And man, that thing sounded wick kid, I mean that
thing had an ext like you don't think about Mercedes.
But interesting. When I went to the Daytona the twenty
four hours, got twenty four hours of Daytona whatever they
did a couple of years ago. The only ones that
sounded like the Corvette when the Corvette would pass by,

(04:29):
you know, the only thing that sounded similar as far
as the notes tones and you know, just kind of
growl of the exhaust was a Mercedes.

Speaker 6 (04:38):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (04:38):
Those dude there, they got some pipes. Man, they're hitting.
But unless let's talk Weldy. We all love Weldy.

Speaker 2 (04:46):
Man.

Speaker 1 (04:47):
It's funny because my boy Sherm, we call him a
erminador aka Chris Sherman. He joined us now and so
last week. Let's catch you up. Last week, pretty boy
that didn't know there is this event, this challenge if
you will, called Adventure Ride. Ian Johnson from Build Faroff Road.
He was in charge of it. Matt Steele, Chuck you myself,

(05:10):
all kinds of badass wheelers from all over the place
came out and tried to tackle some of the toughest
wheeling in the country. And Man, my partner in crime
that got the ride. He was kind of the chauffeur.
But I always ended up hanging with this dude right here,
Chris Sherman from the company ESOB. Now you guys know ESAB.

(05:30):
We did some crazy cool deals back in the day
with ESAB with a bunch of great partners we had there.
And as matter of fact, I think we sold in
one day something like thirty thirty welders one day when
they did that rebel deal with us. It was insane.
So it was good connect back up with the guys
and Crispy and an awesome He was just up for

(05:51):
anything and everything, and he was a lifesaver on the
trail last week. And we'll get into that in just
a second. But hey man, welcome to the show.

Speaker 2 (05:58):
Bro.

Speaker 4 (06:00):
Thank you will he so good to be here?

Speaker 2 (06:01):
Hey?

Speaker 4 (06:02):
Man, we had a great week.

Speaker 1 (06:03):
Great week we did bro. I got to ask as
a dude that that is representing esop so in the
guy that doesn't show build for off road. He's huge.
He has a huge partnership with esop so ensure m
here gets to roll and ride with him, you know
quite often. So was it for you knowing what we

(06:26):
were doing, knowing that the Adventure ride was going to
tackle some of the toughest trails in the country. You
had like twenty rigs that were going out there to
do some of this crazy wheeling. At some point in
your mind you're like, man, I'm definitely gonna get to
use that welder. I'm definitely gonna like I'm death. There's
gonna be some point during the week where I get

(06:48):
a crack off my equipment and show everybody was up.

Speaker 8 (06:53):
I didn't know.

Speaker 4 (06:54):
I didn't expect it to be day one or multiple days.
But yes, I once I get I guess, you know,
having seen like hammers on TV or on the internet,
really you don't get a perspective for that until you're
there and then you hear the crunch of the vehicle
hit the rocks. You're like, oh no, you know, something break,

(07:16):
you know, and those those machines are so tough. It's
amazing what they can do out on those rocks. But yeah,
there was a couple of injuries to the machine.

Speaker 9 (07:26):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (07:27):
Yeah, So first day, let's catch you up as to
why why ISA was very important to have on the trail.
And side note, James and I are looking at this.
It's got to be early nineties BMW eight forty I
real rare. That's a rare bird right there, man, with
the real pointy nose V twelves the first like real

(07:49):
supercar offering from BMW. Yeah, super cool cars, all right, man.
So we're in the jeeps. We're tackling this trail, going
over some pretty big rocks and whatever. Get to a
pretty you know, a couple of tough obstacles. But as
a wheeler, most people have never seen it. Most people

(08:10):
have never witnessed it, and deubinitely most people have never
been driving when it occurred. But you hear oftentimes about
the tube slipping in the differential. You heard anybody when
they talk about wheeling twisting tubes, Oh, you twisted the
tube or you know it spun this and did that. Well,
that happened on a fourteen bolt on my jeep. I

(08:31):
got a fourteen bolt in the back. I thought that
was indestructible. Piece. Well, going up one of these obstacles,
coming up a couple of big rocks or whatever, a
couple of blows or whatever, it twisted the whole differential
and the driver's side tube on a fourteen bolt rear end.
It twisted on the passenger side tube, so you got

(08:55):
the the actual tube going inside, you know, going into
the differential on the driver's side. That all rotated as one.
Because there was a track bar that was welded to
the right side the passenger side. That part didn't move,
but the differential spun on a tube and it did
so over this big, huge obscool right, we get banged away,

(09:19):
I mean, James is huge, big gas rocks, so one
of you all kinds of different ways. And mind you,
I'm driving a manual, so that didn't help. And I
hadn't been in this rigging a minute and it was
one of those unexpected things. But the I caught it
luckily enough before it it shattered everything. We're looking at

(09:39):
the back of the jeep and I'm like wait a minute,
that's not the pinning angle I started with. So we
started looking. Have you ever heard spin a fourteen boat?

Speaker 7 (09:49):
I heard of it, Yeah, because I've welded up a
few of those and braced them all up, and I've
done some things to prevent that.

Speaker 6 (09:55):
But what's it feel like when it happens?

Speaker 1 (09:56):
It feels like something's wrong. That sounds like h So
we uh we took a look at it, and it
was like, oh damn. I that's when Shirm's like, hey
got it, I got it. Welder.

Speaker 4 (10:08):
I got a welder.

Speaker 1 (10:09):
First day? So what kind of day?

Speaker 4 (10:12):
I couldn't believe it.

Speaker 7 (10:13):
I couldn't believe I.

Speaker 1 (10:14):
Could What kind of welter did you bring? Now? This
is on trail? This is back you know, off a
pretty you know, ugly trail, pretty ugly obstacles. But because
you know, because Sharm was on the mission and he uh,
he's from the east Side family, you had some tools, man,
So what do we use on the trail? Tell everybody

(10:36):
take it from there.

Speaker 4 (10:37):
Yeah, I understood the assignment. I got a battery operated welder.
It's called the Renegade ball. It runs off of for
de wats, regular batteries like you're uh, batteries using your tools.

Speaker 1 (10:48):
It's awesome. Yeah, so what so listen back up. Let's second,
people may not know that. People may not know that
you can run a welder. He just said that for
DAL batteries like a power to look at power drill
whatever U circuitarssault, those dwalk batteries, power ess portable welder.
You out how ease of comfort things become when you

(11:11):
can take you what like my welder is always plugged
into the wall, so I couldn't take it on the trail.
What are you doing that? In case, they have made
one that's portable that uses estobs technology but incorporates a
battery you can get anywhere into Walt. You just plug
it in, you're good to go. And they're so much
smarter than having a proprietary battery that you know you

(11:32):
can only find from eside because you can get a
Dwalt battery. You know, most dudes listen to the show
half for Dualt batteries amongst all their tools. You know,
so you can figure that out.

Speaker 4 (11:44):
Just that alone saved me a few times on different
projects where I've flown into a city, We've had a
show or a project and We're like, well, I couldn't
bring the batteries on the plane because I had to
check luggage or whatever. We're just going to go down
to home depot or what our other store and go
buy the matter. So sure enough we do are so yep.
So these these systems are not just a toy either.

(12:08):
Like we were welding with eight inch electrode, So anybody
knows welding, Like that's a lot of ampage. That's you're
turning up to one hundred and eighteen to one hundred
and twenty two amps to weld eighth inch electro and
that's what you need when you're welding on like a
thicker ax like we're doing.

Speaker 1 (12:24):
Yeah, man, And why, just out of curiosity, why the
stickwelder format? Why do you think that is such a
good one to take on trail or using that scenario?
Is it just because it can work in ugly conditions?
Let's be honest, people that don't know stick welding. Stick
welding is brutal. It's like anybody knows tig welding. It's

(12:46):
like it's similar but much uglier. It's like if tig
wedding is the pretty people you know the eighteen on
stage on a Friday night. Stick welding is like the two.

Speaker 4 (13:01):
You know, but that's what it feels like. But every
every process has its place, right, So there's still there's
still stick welding that has to be done on high
rise buildings or on pipelines or these type of things. Yeah,
it gets down and dirty, it gets it done. And
the reality is you don't have to have the other

(13:23):
elements like in tig welding or MiG welding, you have
to have a bottle of gas. Right, Uh, you got it.
And in those cases too, there's there's not a battery
operated version of that really out yet. It's that kind
of industrial standard like a stick weld wood.

Speaker 1 (13:41):
So and then the superndy it becomes super super.

Speaker 10 (13:46):
Yep.

Speaker 4 (13:47):
We can and you can attack something that has some
rust on it or scale on it. And and that
slag that's on the stick itself that helps remove the
impurities out of the weld so you get a nice
solid joint.

Speaker 1 (14:00):
Really, is that what that?

Speaker 2 (14:02):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (14:02):
It acts as a metal.

Speaker 4 (14:05):
Yeah, that clay. Yeah, that clay looking material that's on
the outside of the stick that if you like bang
the stick, it'll it'll flake. Off and fall off. You
don't want that, right, right, So you want you want
that stick electra to have that sheet on the outside,
that clay material, and that's what helps pure the pull
the impurities out of the weld while you're welding. That's
why stick becomes really powerful for outdoor. I don't have

(14:27):
to worry about the wind either. Right, So we're out
on the trail, there's a little bit of freeze if
you if you were using a MiG welder, uh, like
we did later that that night. But you know, if
you use a MiG welder, you're going to have to
make sure that that gas isn't blowing away from the weld, right,
So if you have too out of a wind, you're
gonna have.

Speaker 1 (14:45):
To like use I've done cover it up, yeah, man,
I've weld it outside before. You got to get a
play again or some of the black cardboard or whatever
to black the wind, you know, because you're trying to
weld something like that. But get anybody nor for example,
there's there so many there's a lot of oil fields
on the east and northern plains here in Colorado. What

(15:07):
are they always use? They always have stick welding machines
out there because the conditions they're welding in. It is
the proven choice and it's super strong because well, get
into what makes stick welding. I can see how it's
ideal for those scenarios and situations, but it's also a robust. Well,
you can get a powerful, strong you can throw a

(15:28):
lot of metal at it. Man, I've seen people shoving
sticks in a couple of times. When I did it,
my buddy Jeremy brought his ory gover and taught me
how to do it. And it's dude, you're plugging some holes. Man,
You're you're shoving some rod in it.

Speaker 4 (15:41):
Yeah. Two, there's two elements that come into a lot
of your welders and with stick welding, and it's called
arc force. There's a setting actually on that renegade bolt
that lets us do that. So you can turn that
arc force up. It's just stick welding, and certain electrodes
gives you that digging action is what they call it,
that arc force. When you have that, though, and you

(16:03):
design electro around that, sometimes it gets difficult to weld
with that stick. So your machine has to have those
digital settings in it right, so that you can adjust
that and make it easier to weld with that stick electrode.
So art force really helps you with that in that setting.
So I turned that art force up. We've got some
digging action that gets that penetration into your base metals.

(16:27):
That's why that works so well. And that's why oftentimes,
like in some other processes, right, you're not digging that
deep into the metal. You've got to put multiple passes
down or you got to make sure you're even penetrating.
They call that cold lap. When you don't penetrate, it's
called cold lap. That's when you weld the bust down
the road.

Speaker 1 (16:43):
You don't want that well. And what was interesting because
here's the scenario we dig. You know, we dig out
the welder and man, you talk about convenient. It's amazing.
Run a four to at batteries. We cleaned up a
little bit and my boys shut him. Here passes the
well to end. Now you won't see this on TV,

(17:06):
but we just tacked it. Initially, we went and did
another obstacle and it blew the tax off, so because
it wouldn't enough to hold it. So then we dig
the welter out again and go, okay, this time it's
hammer time, and we put a lot a lot of
metal in there and it held the rest of the time. However,
the pennion angle wasn't correct. And look, when you're wheeling,

(17:31):
it's not as important as it is and say, you know,
fast cars, performance rides and so forth. But I promise
you this, if you don't have the right pennon angle,
you will blow your slip yoke, you join everything else
all apart. So we had to get that corrected.

Speaker 4 (17:45):
Yeah, so the scenario, and that's why we that's why
we tacked it too, by the way, because we thought, okay,
we're through the toughest part of the trail. Let's just
tack it. We'll get down off the trail, because we
knew we were going to have to gouget loose, busted
back loose, rack your opinion angle and then put a
bunch of weld in. So we knew we're the more
well we put in, the more work we're creating for

(18:07):
us later. Yeah, at night, and so we didn't put
enough right.

Speaker 1 (18:12):
But that second time, let me tell you, it was
like out loading that bitch up. So he threw all
kinds of metal at it and in it. So we're
like Oh boy, So what happened next week? Get off
the trail, everybody. We finished the obstacle. Now on this
adventure ride, you got to fix your rig in the
eating to get back at the trail head the next

(18:34):
day in order to do the tough trail the next day.
The next day was a severely tough trail. Next day
we did sledgehammer and sledgehammer, dude, sledgehammer King of the Hammers,
and it was just washed out and it was a
brutal man sledgehammer. If everybody doesn't know, it's one of
the tougher trails on King of the Hammer's course.

Speaker 4 (18:55):
And it's it's the appropriate name.

Speaker 1 (18:58):
It's every monster, man, it is a monster. So that night,
imagine this, so my man Shirm here, he's down to
help out. Never as a dude been so happy to
help out because hey, we were using theasside equipment. He
was saving today and he knew how to do something
that I'm not witnessed before with the plasma cutter. Now,

(19:20):
let me set the stage. That night we were at
the hotel, we met a guy and I gotta tell you,
I think his named Edwin Irwin. We met this dude
that was basically like remember the First Fast and Furious
when Touretto's house was like the hangout, everybody came over
to the shop and fixed his car. Remember that, James,

(19:40):
I know he watched the First Fast. He watched his
Fast and Furious every Friday. He So that home was
kind of like this dude's shop, like when we we
were at the hotel parking lot, basically, and this dude
shows up and he goes like, hey man, Nate Pickle,
this guy that has this YouTube following, he had some

(20:02):
issues with his rig and he was over at this
dude's shop trying to address some of the problems that
he had. Again that involved welding and you know, busting
the oil pan open and not once but twice. So
a few of us had these problems. So me, Sharm
and my boy Mikey go over to this dude's shop

(20:22):
late at night. Now Sharm brings the welter and he
also brings a plasma cutter and he says, I'll plasma
gouge out all that metal because there was a substantial
amount of metal thrown in this rear and this differential
on the trail after we broke the tax. So what

(20:44):
was wild is watching this process occur. Now we're at
this dude's it's a guy we don't know, but he's
very friendly about us. Tell you know how car race
community is and car people and the same way with people.

Speaker 10 (20:57):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (20:57):
Great, So this kept down to help out, and Short says,
I will, I will gouge out all that metal with
the plasma cutter. Have you ever seen that? And I
go no, but I kind of get the I get
the concept. So he breaks out another cool piece of
equipment and tell everybody what this process. Anybody has ever

(21:18):
used a plasma cutor you know how it blows? It
blows the metal way right when you're cutting it. We
can also if you take if you aim at naso right,
you could use that portion of the flame, the and
the you know, the force of it, I guess to
blow away all this this old weld and that's kind

(21:39):
of how you you started that process.

Speaker 4 (21:41):
Right, absolutely, So the plasma cutter itself has a different
tip for for plasma gouging, and all that does is
it opens up the orifice at the end of that
tip a little bit larger, and it's got a little
bit different shape, kind of like a jet engine where
it converges and then diverges right, So then that gets
that lets that arc that flame that you see coming

(22:03):
out in the front of a plaza torch, It allows
it to stretch farther so I can stretch on that
little bitty plasma. I could stretch an arc about an
inch off the front of the tip of that plasma tip,
which is incredible. So then what that lets you do.
It lets you apply a soft arc into that joint,
because I don't want to pierce a hole into your

(22:24):
drive shaft.

Speaker 1 (22:26):
Drive to more so, imagine the actual team going out
of the differential right right that juncture there that that
you know the spot he's there's a massive amount of
weld shoved in there, and he's trying to blow it
out using that arc of a plasma cutter. And anybody
knows a plasma cutter, typically that arc is very small.

(22:48):
As you know, there's a lot of slag and stuff
that blows up. Do you use the plasma cutter a
lot at the shop? Didn't you understand the concept here? Right?
If you stretch that arc out, you could blow a
bunch of the metal away without affecting the the original
you know, tube and or differential, and that's kind of
the game he's playing.

Speaker 6 (23:08):
Got a steady hand, well.

Speaker 1 (23:09):
Steady hand, and a lot of these tips and things
that they're doing allow you some of the process he
probably didn't know you could do with the plasma cutter.

Speaker 4 (23:17):
Yeah, and so I was able to gouge out that
well that we put on the trail without digging into
your tube, your drive tube or your your the portion
that has your pumpkin attached to it. I don't want
to take away a bunch of that metal. I just
want to remove the weld metal that we could put
on there and not pierce a hole into your drive tube.

(23:38):
So that's that's why that plasma gouging was so beneficial. Uh,
you know, after hours there we could clean all that
up and then the next step is we got your
your pinion angle back where it belonged. Yeah, because on
the trail, the best we did probably what ten degrees
it was.

Speaker 1 (23:54):
It was way up there. And I got to tell you,
even after we blew out all the metal, you still
have metal that form underneath it that he can't get
to because he's trying to save the axle tube. So
what we did, anybody, it's ever seen a you know,
like an F five fifty or F six fifty. We
had one of those. It was a uh what do
you call that thing? It's a massive imagine like a

(24:18):
box truck but with a bed on it. So it
had these enormous ramps for his off road rig that
he climbed up it, and it was it was a
climb most people would be a little intimidated with. So
I backed up it with my jeep and used the
winch off of his flatbed, wrapped it around the differential

(24:38):
like you know, the U joint part of the differential,
and literally pulled the differential back towards the cabin his
truck as my jeep as went to the trailer in
front of me so it wouldn't climb. So we just
basically put all this torquner all this, you know, I mean,
you wouldn't believe how the thing was stretching, pulling, creaking,

(24:59):
And then finally the welds broke. The two broke in
the direction we needed to like that, and I'm holding
the brake, I'm win stop on one end. They're pulling
the rear in from under the jeep and I feel
it breaking the handle. The gear shift and I'm like, oh,
it just moved. And then we only needed to move,
you know, just over a quarter of an inch. But

(25:19):
then we had to back everything off the trailer, set
it down, make sure we didn't interrupt it, and then
weld everything back together. And mind you, this is eleven
and twelve o'clock at night. So after all of that,
we were able to get it down, weld it back together,
get on the trail. Guess what, that portion of the

(25:40):
jeep never failed again all day and sledgehammer all day,
you know, for the next remainder of the week. That
part held together, which is amazing to think about it.
My front slip yoke didn't, my power steering pump didn't,
a few other things, but that part held together and
it was it.

Speaker 4 (25:59):
Turned yeah, yeah, it was. It was really really fun
and that, you know, that was one of my favorite times.
I know, yes, I'm this little guy. I brought some stuff,
but just hanging out with the community and then getting
to know you, William and how much you do for
the community, it's amazing and I got to witness that
first hand where everybody just comes together, helps each other out,

(26:20):
get you back on the trail, and you still you
still got to have a lot of fun. And if
you didn't have that, you know, community to come to
gather together, banded around you. You know, if it becomes
along not just one night, but a long week to
try to get the rig back together.

Speaker 1 (26:35):
Admit of that, man, But look, East does a lot
when it comes to welding. The automotive world careers in welding. Uh,
it is it's wild man, Because look, guys, I'm telling
you man, there is the future is a wild spot.
You know when you look down the pipeline and see
you know, everybody talks now about AI and the fact

(26:57):
that AI is gonna be taking a lot of well,
right now, probably it seems and sounds like it's taking
a lot of kind of white collar jobs and kind
of a vague way to generalize it, but there will
come a day, especially now with the quantum chips and
robotics moving into the physical realm where AI has kind
of been you know, just in the they haven't really
come into the physical realm. But when the robot stuff

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catches up the scale, you know there's going to be
you know, robots that can raild and do things like that.
But it's a whole another landscape, and that's way down
that pipeline. Consider where AI is in what they're doing now,
they haven't breached into that the physical realm. So to me,
there's a whole industry there that if you're a welder,

(27:45):
if you know how to weld, if you want to
spend that time in that career to learn it and
understand it, dude, you can make a great career for that.
And I feel like still longevity in the game. Sure,
there's a guy in here, James run just really cool
full blown custom shop in town. How much welding do
y'all do a day? How much welding out? Like, is

(28:07):
there a welder going fifty time, thirty percent time, sixty
percent time? What do you think?

Speaker 6 (28:14):
It varies week to week.

Speaker 7 (28:16):
Some weeks the welder doesn't turn off, you know, we
burn through multiple tanks a week. Other weeks maybe another
never gets fired up. But I'd say we're we're welding. Ever,
everything's got to get welded at some point. A sheet
metal panels.

Speaker 1 (28:32):
Car, any car in there has had just a minse
amount of welding thrown at it. There's not one car
you have in your shop the dead needs something welding.

Speaker 7 (28:41):
And we try to not push all the welding off
till the end because what we'll end up doing is
having to spend a month of NonStop welding if we
do this.

Speaker 6 (28:48):
So we kind of got a weld.

Speaker 7 (28:49):
As we go, and and mostly tig, yeah, almost exclusively TIG,
occasionally a little bit of mid welding on contaminated areas,
spots that you know, maybe multiple layers of sheet metal
that have five.

Speaker 1 (29:00):
Have you ever done stick what we were just talking about.

Speaker 7 (29:02):
I have never stick welled in my life and I've
done a lot of well, wow, I never used to
stick well.

Speaker 1 (29:06):
Then it's crazy, man, it's wild. It's uh, but it's
it's look getting strong and it you know, if you
know how to do it, it looks fantastic. But you see
it today, skyscrapers, buildings, you know, they weld all the time.
It's wild man.

Speaker 10 (29:20):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (29:20):
And the equipment nowadays has can you explain the difference, Chris,
Welders nowadays give you so many aids that are available
to really master welding. It doesn't take I remember I
learned on an old you know, my man hears from me, sad.
But first welder I had was a Miller sinker wave right,
and yeah, you know I had the two hundred whatever

(29:41):
syncre wave and you know it was one of those
things you had to throttle the pedal, dip the metal
in at the same time worm worm and there was
a rhythm to it, there was a there was a
kind of a poles to it. But now there's some
of this technology you can have incorporated into the weld
machine that age you so significantly. It's I mean, especially

(30:05):
with these guys the game. This is the biggest welding
company in the world. A lot of people don't realize
you saw the best wed the world. So you guys
are on the forefront of this technology. Can you share
a little bit of that with us?

Speaker 4 (30:15):
Sure? So there is a lot of technology that goes
on behind the scenes. Just think about your cell phone,
for example, over the last ten years and how much
it's changed. Think about even your car, the dashboard and
what you have telling you all sorts of things going
in the background. You have fuel injection that's managing things

(30:35):
for you in the background. Well, we're doing the same
thing on welding. We can manage things in the background
that before it took twenty years of experience, and like
under the hood and you're seeing something interacting in the
weld puddle under your hood. Well, shoot, you had to
weld for fifteen years before you saw that happen. Yeah, yeah,
we know certain things need to go well in order

(31:01):
to create a good weld. Well, the more we can
take care of that in software, or in the type
of components that we put into the machines, or even
in the weld wire itself. Like there's different chemicals that
go into the weld wire that make a weld. They
call it wetting out easier, right, so it joins into
the base metal easier with a particular wire. Otherwise you're

(31:24):
just welding with coat hangers, you know. That's yeah, it
really kind of gives you some perspective for what technology
has has allowed us to change over the years.

Speaker 1 (31:33):
Talk to me about that wire that a lot of
people may not be aware of. Most people just get
you know, you just get rid and they give me
that box general welding down here, pick up a box
of you know, ride and go at it. Blah blah blah.

Speaker 4 (31:46):
Right, yeah, so wire will make a difference. And then
imagine if you are a production house and you're getting
into robotics or you're getting into welding a lot. We
can make wires that don't have a twist in them, right,
it's called helix. So you you could cut a section
of say, you know, six feet or ten feet of
wire off of the wheel and then throw it on

(32:09):
the ground and it would almost lay straight. Now whereas
like old old school wires, if you clip that off,
it's still it's still wound up into a circle. Well,
that creates maintenance in your lines. It creates maintenance in
your guns if you have helix in your wire. So
that's another little aspect in flux cords. With that same

(32:29):
clay based material, like I said it was on the
outside of stick, we have that same type of material
that goes on the inside of what we call flux cord.
And there's all sorts of cool flux cord material out
there that'll let you weld out of position. It'll let
you weld nasty material and pull all of those impurities out.
And man, it is so cool to weld with some

(32:51):
of those because it makes it makes your weld look amazing.

Speaker 1 (32:54):
So all right, hold that thought right there, Hold that
thought Chris James at your shop full of blown custom
Do you find a difference in some of the rod
you use and how does it affect what you're going
to have? You notice some of this difference in the rod.

Speaker 7 (33:10):
Yeah, we kind of we mess around, you know, usually
we're using R seventy, S two or S six and
then I've kind of messed around going back between the
S two and S six, trying to figure out which
I like more in each sitution. What's the characteristics of
each pulling impurities out, you know, the you know, we
if you know, we're trying to keep.

Speaker 6 (33:28):
The metal as clean as possible when we're.

Speaker 1 (33:30):
A lot of people don't realize that about tig weding too. Man,
we were talking about how stick welling can knock out
some of these impurities for the best result, especially when
it comes to tig weding. The cleaner the surface, the
cleaner the metal, man, the much significant difference in the
result of the way it looks. So to get it
clean is sometimes tough, and it gets the right rod

(33:53):
in there sometimes.

Speaker 7 (33:53):
And sometimes you can overcome that too. You know, there's
there's a little kind of some of these specialty rods
that are out there can your a little cheat, you're
in a really contaminated area.

Speaker 6 (34:03):
There's no way around it. You got to you gotta
get it in there.

Speaker 7 (34:06):
You know, we've found like three twelve can be this
badass rod that can do dissimilar metals, is has higher
elongation but also higher tensile strength. A badass rod that
can be. That's kind of your problem solver. A rod
where you've got maybe dissimilar metals or that's.

Speaker 1 (34:23):
Always key to similar metals. People don't realize too are
always they always corowe. There's always you know, this process
going on with dis similar metals, this oxidation that happens
that they don't like each other very much. But when
you could well and combine them without all that all
those other properties working against you, that that's the big

(34:43):
significant bonus too. And how how that looks down the road.

Speaker 6 (34:46):
Yeah, and the science goes deal.

Speaker 4 (34:48):
And in automotive too, you got like, uh, you're trying
to reduce weight. You're trying to reduce when you're talking
in automotive racing, rock crawling doesn't matter. If you're gonna
reduce weight, your horsepower Elijah Cargill faster. So now we're
talking Kromali tubes. You're talking different stainlesses aluminum, so now
you have to use a different filler metal and oftentimes

(35:10):
a different process.

Speaker 1 (35:12):
Right.

Speaker 4 (35:12):
So you mentioned tig. You can do AC tig when
you're talking at aluminum. You can use DC pulse when
you're talking chromali and stainless. Right, So all these processes
help you. It's having a better tool for the job
and just trying to pull out, you know, your old
grinding wheel or your old MiG welder from nineteen seventy
nine and thinking I'm going to do a good job

(35:33):
with it.

Speaker 1 (35:34):
What's your go to philler rod at full blown Custom?
What's the one you rely on most?

Speaker 6 (35:40):
Er seventy S S two or S six.

Speaker 1 (35:44):
And yeah, Chris, when people are looking at you know,
at this philler rod, what would you reckon? It gives
kind of weird out here too. I don't know if
altitude has a play in anything or not, but it
seems it seems like here anyway, people have a special
like like him, a special sauce that they always kind

(36:05):
of rely on and go to. Is that is that
across the boarder? You find that everywhere when you're looking
or would you recommend different rods for something we were
just speaking of, like Desmer metals and such.

Speaker 4 (36:19):
It's I wouldn't say like on just an altitude, but
certainly you mentioned a keyword earlier, which is corrosion, so
that I pay more attention to when it comes to
you know, are you near the shore, you're out near
salt water. Are you up north or if you're north
of the Mason Dixon, you're going to have salt on
the roads, just like you do in Colorado. So you know,

(36:41):
welding with something that's going to prevent corrosion and is
going to be really beneficial to you. So that's almost
more of an as more of an issue than than
say just atmospheric atmosphere.

Speaker 1 (36:54):
You know, we've got cars there from up north that
the welds on the exhaust are the first things you
see all this rust and crosion. And sometimes the pipe
we'll be rusted, but it's the welds and connections and
so for like that where things seem to show the
worst you know, effects of corrosion, salt and so forth.

Speaker 4 (37:14):
Yeah, if you don't pay attention to the filler metal
S six is a common one that we use, and
not all seventy s six's are made the same. You know,
you they're supposed to meet a standard, But you can
buy a really junk wire that's seventy s six, and
you can buy really good wires seventy s six. So
paying attention to, you know, good sources of your material

(37:35):
is important. And of course you got your local, you know,
welding supply guys that can help you spec that stuff out. Again,
this is another community. Just like you got the rock
crawling community, the welding community is a whole other one too.
So you know, surely you've got you know, a welding
supply shop just down the road from you that can
absolutely help if you've got some weird materials that you've

(37:56):
got to put together, or you've got a corrosion problem,
you're like, dude, what what what material can I weld
this together with that that'll help prevent that? And oftentimes
they'll have some answers to that.

Speaker 1 (38:05):
No doubt. Man. Let's get into some other alloys. Talking
to luminum, everybody wants to. I'll be honest, man, as
much as I like racing and all that stuff, well,
and the luminum is overrated. I mean, it's awesome I
wish I could do it great, but man, you know no,
it's like this pitchmark. It is man, paint the ass,

(38:26):
but it is like this pitchmark. Oh you can tike
well this, you can do well that, you can do this,
you can mike well this MiG can you do a luminum?

Speaker 11 (38:34):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (38:34):
Man, damn it. It's a thing all right, So let's
take a break. We'll talk about it. Coming up next
Chris Sherman esob E S A. B Is the company
and James from Full Blown Custom Custom with a cake
because that's how cool kids do it. We're back after
the breaking Willi's garages one of the seven nine kbp.

Speaker 2 (38:52):
I Willie B's garage. You're back in Williebe's garage.

Speaker 1 (39:05):
Whatever y'all with bese garage. We alive, got James from
Full Blown Custom, we got Chris Sherman from East Hop
on the phone and hey man, mark this day down
on calendar October twenty fifth, twenty fifth, right, twenty fifth.
We got this cool truck. How cool is it to
have a chunk of treat nowadays? I don't know about
when y'all were kids. I never had chunk of treats
going up I'd earned my candy the hard way, walking
uphill through the damn Halloween snow h you know, for

(39:28):
a mini size or a fun size snicker bar. Come on, man,
you kids got it easy. You show over the parking lot.
Everybody's got candy in the trunk. You got cool little
unfoldable things that you throw rings on or darts through
or whatever. It's all fun and it's alright. There can't
beat guys. Yeah, hey, you bring the King size. You're
doing something, man, whoo chunk of treat sir, They're awesome.

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Remember we had to earn our candy. Man, What was
your first Halloween costume? James? You remember, man?

Speaker 6 (39:57):
I don't remember.

Speaker 1 (39:59):
The only reason members because my mom took a picture
of it and I still had that picture. Day. I'm
in like this trench coat and there was some dude
that had this big nose, goofy mustache and you had
this Remember those glasses you put on that had the
nose and the mustache attached to it? Maybe that was
was grach Is that gratcha Marks grauch On Marks had

(40:19):
those glasses the big old plastic noses, goofy little mustache
with a hat, a trench coat on. But I used
a pillowcase for my trigger treat bag and I remember
it was loaded up. I was like, oh my god.
And at time your kid, as a kid in your family,
always watch you ever raizor Blades and the apples.

Speaker 6 (40:38):
Who that was crazy apples anyway?

Speaker 1 (40:41):
Yeah, man, that was crazy talk. But man, that was
that was the best. Yeah, real size, like big asshes.
That was a bomb. Pay Day's pay Day's underrated. But
look we got a trunk of tree. October twenty fifth,
bring non paris with food items or turn that into
food drive. They opened up me on the top, parking
out there a full blown cuffs and make a big

(41:01):
day out of it. We'll talk more about that in
just a minute. What's that ten o'clock ten am. It's
a blast, man, So come on out for that mark
that day down on the counter. I'll probably have a
hot ride out there too. Can't wait. We go back
to a man. Chris Sherman ESB is the company we're
talking about. You know, I'm reply to the cutters, welders,
everything else. Largest welding company in the world, and we're

(41:23):
just talking about different, you know, different kinds of welding.
I do mostly you know, I do mostly make down
I guess just because it's easier. I did build that
that wide body charger. Who I got great news on
white body charger. Side note, all right, stick stick this
conversation on the hold. One second, I met this cat,
Matthew from from Eaton, who have got one of their

(41:46):
lockers in my wide body charger, and he wants that
car in his booth next year for SEEMA And I'm like, oh,
so there's motivation to finish it up. So yeah, man,
I got a couple of things to do to wrap
up on it. But yeah, man, now I was like,
you you want to back at SEMA. That would be awesome.

(42:10):
So excited about that. We'll put that on the shelf
for now. But yeah, definitely some to look forward in
the future. But I did learn how to take well,
you know, mon steel when I was doing that car
and got there for a minute. It's one of those
skills that, honestly, and I hate saying this, you got
to use it to keep it. Although it's like ride

(42:31):
the bike, you do pick it back up fairly quick,
but to get really, really really good at it, you
need to use it on a daily and just muscle
memory is such a player in that game. And you know,
that's why I brought James in for Full Blow and
Customs because he does it every day. And his dude,
he's got these these freaking wells that look like you know, now,
dudes post up pictures of whatever they're proud about, could

(42:53):
be their bike or their you know, their Harley or
their you know, back order little landscape, and I did.
And for people James is welds. He's like, oh, look
at this pal and it's just all money co coloring.
It's got all that ooh and ah that everybody does
when they see cool welbs like that. That's him. That's
what he does, and east Idea is coming. He could
do that for a lot of you. Let's talk about

(43:15):
stupid tig welding. No, it's awesome. I do love tig wedding.
But illuminum alluminum is a different game and I hate
that that sometimes it's the equivalent of what do you
bench for people that work out? You know, aluminum welding,
that's the bench.

Speaker 2 (43:34):
You know.

Speaker 1 (43:34):
It's like when you walk into a gym's tough guys,
you know, side, what do you bitch? That's like it's
like freaking illuminum tig welding it. It is that benchmark
that so few of us get to. Uh man. And
because of the paint the ass Why is illuninum such
a paint ass Because it's always dirty, it's always since

(43:56):
you started a little little black and it's where I'll
just come from. It's luckily butter what happened?

Speaker 4 (44:01):
Yeah, man, So here's yeah, here's a couple. Here's a
couple of reasons why. So aluminum by nature forms an
aluminum oxide almost instantly, So that is an aluminum oxide
for people that may not know so aluminum when you
like when you scratch aluminum, or if you took your

(44:21):
brush out your cleaning brush and you brush your prushure
brush a cleaning aluminum before you weld it. As soon
as that gets exposed to the air, we breathe the
nitrogen and the oxygen in the air. Specifically the oxygen,
because it's called aluminum oxide, starts reacting with that aluminum
and it starts to create a skin on it. That's
why aluminum stays looking aluminum for a long long time,

(44:44):
right right, because that aluminum oxide protects that aluminum much
like stainless steel doesn't rust aluminum doesn't rust and it's
because of the aluminum oxide layer. The problem with that
is it makes it a bear.

Speaker 1 (44:58):
It's weld its a the higher burn rate than the
actual lunium does. Right, So you're right, it's hard. Rights
then the actual material that you were you're wanting to
get into and play with.

Speaker 4 (45:10):
Yep, which is why d C tig if you were
to try to ever do that like old school, and
there are some people out there that can do it, James,
you might be able to do it, Dude, It's super
hard because you have to break through that oxide layer
on the outside without falling out the metal underneath it. Right,
And that's what happens in DC TIG is you start

(45:32):
the weld and next thing you know, that crust breaks
loose and then the whole world book falls out underneath you.

Speaker 1 (45:38):
Yeah. Terrible.

Speaker 4 (45:43):
So that's why a C TIG is where it's at.
So your machine makes a massive difference. AC tig will
allow you to break that layer. But then after you
break the layer with that AC it's pulsing back and forth.
You can hear it's like yang yan or if you
have a center piece of metal, you might want to
have a higher frequency. Right, So I know, like the

(46:07):
sound effects, but a lot of sound effects in.

Speaker 1 (46:10):
Welding, right, but people do they there's a big difference
in the sound of aluminum welding compared to the sound
of just regular mild steel. And it's much higher pitch
and that frequency is much higher, and it sounds vastly different.

Speaker 4 (46:28):
Yeah, So DC pulse is different from AC pulse. AC
you're getting You're getting that that electricity flow is going
both into your weld and out of your weld, whereas
DC is only going in. So so you have that
pulse is different. So AC pulse is what you really
have to have for tig welding aluminum, or at least

(46:49):
tig welding aluminum. That looks pretty like James as well.

Speaker 1 (46:55):
That's true. Now, why so you burn through that first
layer of oxation, you get to the medal, but aluminum
for most of us, that little puddle is a little
bit it's a little bit wild man, you know how
the no matter you turn twenty one and that age
between twenty one, twenty three and twenty four kind of

(47:16):
forget a lot of acting. I have, know, man, a
lot of alcohol involved in that world. It's kind of
like the puddle is acting like that age group, you know,
like they just got the permissions to go pound some beers,
and by god, they're not missing out. It's erratic, it's goovy.
It's like, why are you moving that direction when I'm
pulling you this direction.

Speaker 4 (47:36):
Yeah, it is a it's a very fluid puddle. It's
a very fluid puddle, and so I.

Speaker 1 (47:42):
Would call it erratic. I would call that puddle female.

Speaker 4 (47:44):
Correct, Like, if there's a difference, you take the lifetime
to start to understand it. I guess, yeah, no.

Speaker 1 (47:53):
Is that what you James? So when you're well to loureless,
what do you what are some secrets in your mind
that make that puddle a little bit more controllable? Do
you throw chocolate at it?

Speaker 6 (48:03):
Do you so getting getting in hard and quick that sometimes.

Speaker 7 (48:07):
We're talking about the puddle, y'all. Relax the puddle. Okay,
it reads a little different. I think that's kind of
the big hold up. You started welding mild steel, you're
used to how that puddle reads. It reads a little
bit differently, you know. Also, you know, if I'm welding
mild steel, chromali or whatever, I'm floating my tongue sten.

Speaker 6 (48:26):
You know, I don't know a sixteenth of an inch.

Speaker 7 (48:29):
Off of the surface for aluminum, I'm going to be
back a little ways, you know, And I don't have
any stick out out of my cup with the tongue sten.
So I'm floating back a little bit, and I'm more
I'm not looking so much at the light or white white.

Speaker 1 (48:41):
Why do you pull the stick because when what I'm
doing mild steel, I'll have it hanging out just a
little bit, you know, I don't know eight quarter, I
don't know. Yeah, what I do mild steel, Why do
you want? Is that how much you're shielding it in
that that surrounding of gas.

Speaker 6 (49:00):
There is quite a bit to it.

Speaker 7 (49:01):
Yeah, there's some aspects of like we're using smaller cups
when we're welding on aluminum.

Speaker 6 (49:05):
It seems like the bigger.

Speaker 7 (49:06):
Cups are kind of that the light window, the window
of your weld itself. You're kind of trying to create
a tighter window to be more precise with aluminum because
the arc is like larger it's it is, it wanders
a lot more than it's drop DC weld. But I'm
really looking at the weld itself, like the puddle, and
I'm looking for that aluminum to start turning kind of shiny.

(49:27):
And if I can get both both pieces of metal
that I'm trying to use together with my filler, if
I can get them both to start shining up like
a mirror, that's the time when it's gonna begin to
They've got to like each other. If you got one
shining and the other one's not, you try to add
the filler in, it's not going into both of them.

Speaker 4 (49:43):
So you gotta get both pieces of child.

Speaker 7 (49:47):
You gotta get them to like each other. And you
do that, you make them shiny. And once you you know,
starting off is the hard part, the first dab. Once
you got that first dab of that puddle, that string
of dimes you're about to drop started, it becomes easier.

Speaker 6 (50:00):
So I get in, I go in.

Speaker 7 (50:02):
You know, might want to do a light brush over
at low amperage to kind of clean that surface up
if you feel like you need to, and then just
hardened to that pedal and just start going like kind of.

Speaker 1 (50:12):
Deep faster aluminums a lot faster than than mild still.

Speaker 6 (50:16):
And you'll use up a whole rod real quick. Yeah,
So yeah, feed material boom boom boom.

Speaker 7 (50:22):
Interesting man, getting into it hard and quick is kind
of one of the things that will help you prevent
glowing through.

Speaker 1 (50:29):
I noticed that the times I've done it, and you know,
sometimes I've been successful, sometimes I've been failed. You can
see that tanking it back of that jeep and know
I'm still got some work to do, but it didn't
we uh. Let me ask you this, Why is it
that aluminum seems too There's so much different variation I

(50:53):
guess in the aluminum that you're sometimes using this filler
between the allunins you're trying to combine. Is there not
just a standard and objective standard across the borders to
what There's so many different aluminums that some of them
are just nasty. They seem like they're laid up with
dirt and corrosion. And then other luminiums I'm welding into

(51:15):
will be really pure, really clean, and they'll be you know,
just they'll look significantly different. What's the best way to
get aluminum and ensure them. You can start with your
answer and we'll go to James. When you have a
nice aluminum and you're trying to weld to an ugly illuminum.

(51:36):
And I know that's probably a weird way to describe it,
but you know what I'm talk about. There's a lot
of variations in aluminum, right.

Speaker 4 (51:44):
There is, So your typical is forty forty three, right,
so that's a that's your cheaper, more standard illuminum. But
you could get into seven thousand series aluminum as well.
So not unlike mild steel where you heard that seventy
S six seventy stands for the seventy thousand pencil strength, right,

(52:05):
so the pounds force, right, So seventy thousand pounds of
force is what that wire is able to handle. So
seventy S six same thing in aluminum, that grade forty
forty three seven thousand series, six thousand series alte you
have different series. You're gonna need to match your filler
metal to that, and then it will act a little

(52:26):
bit different under the hood.

Speaker 1 (52:29):
What if you don't know, what if you're not aware
of the aluminum you're welding into. Is there one that
you should go with or is it just good luck?

Speaker 10 (52:38):
Yah?

Speaker 4 (52:39):
I mean now it goes back to application. If it's
just you're sticking something together to use around the farmer
ranch and it's not mattering that much, you're not selling
a product. I just stick it together with the illumina rod.
I got the garage. But if you're if you're gonna,
if you're gonna be a production house and you're making something,
then all of a sudden, all those numbers matter to you.

(52:59):
Your gas mixture matters to you too. It might be
straight argon, you might wind up. If it's sticker, you
might use an argon helium blend right, so your helium
is going to give you more penetration into the metal.
It's same in plasma too, by the way, So I'll
use an argon hydrogen to plasma cut stick aluminum. It

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just it does better. It has a has a hotter arc.

Speaker 1 (53:24):
What are you using off in front of them?

Speaker 6 (53:27):
Oh, we're just using straight argon.

Speaker 4 (53:29):
Okay, straight argo.

Speaker 7 (53:31):
You know we've we've seen you know, some of these
different mixtures of gases and some exotic materials. You know,
needing some tri mix or helium, get it? Getting weld
a lot hotter. So your machine only goes up to
two hundred and fifty amps, but you're really asking it
to do three hundred and fifty. You might have to
instead of going to buying one hundred thousand dollars machine.
Maybe just switch up your gas mixture for the day.

Speaker 6 (53:52):
All right, there you go, Hey, didn't know that.

Speaker 1 (53:54):
All right? What else matters when you're messing with aluminum?

Speaker 4 (53:58):
Hey, last trick of the trade for sure? That I
that it was a game changer for me is my
auto darkening hood. So I grew up old school. I've
been in this game over thirty years now, and I
can remember my first standard Jackson hood right that it's
got to fixed shade, dude, when you can, when you
can have an auto dark and then you have these
big screen it's like watching a big screen high def TV.

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Now on these new hoods, it's amazing.

Speaker 1 (54:23):
It's beautiful.

Speaker 4 (54:24):
And then there's different true color filters now on the
higher end ones. Dude, you're seeing the colors. It's not
just green, right, old school hoods, you're just seeing like
watching a monochromatic old school like atari, you know, on
the new hoods like Pong. Right, So that's so your
old school hood like playing pong. New school hoods like

(54:47):
playing whatever your favorite you know, three D world graphic,
you know, video game is. That's how I feel about it.
The my new hood that I have the sentinel from ASA.
But it's it is awesome true color technology.

Speaker 1 (55:01):
It's great here. I have to say one is hilarious.

Speaker 4 (55:05):
Yeah, it's awesome, and you're seeing colors and so I
like it. And I like what James said about the
shininess when you're welding with aluminum, seeing that that oxide layer, crust,
breakthoose and then you see that shiny metal in between.
And especially if you're dissimilar or you've got well going on,
you're needing to see both of those sides shiny up.

(55:27):
I love that, James. That was a great tip.

Speaker 1 (55:29):
I loved it that there is that moment you can
see it getting shiny, like that mirror, you know, and
if you let go too far and it bubbles and
just blows out, it goes too deep, you know. But yeah, man,
when you do see there is that moment, that timing
is everything and it really comes into play with that.
Uh any other off the top of your head tricks

(55:50):
for aluminum? What about? Well, let me ask you, James first,
and I got one more aspect of it. I got
I gotta bring to the table. But in your world,
any other tricks for aluminum?

Speaker 6 (56:01):
Keep it clean?

Speaker 4 (56:02):
You know?

Speaker 1 (56:03):
The best way to clean aluminum. Is it true that
you should only have one steel brush or stainless steel
brush for aluminum and use that only for aluminum, don't
use it for mob steel. So people that may not
notice when you you know your brush you're clean to
some of that oxidation, some of that that first that
layer of skin off. Make sure you don't and it

(56:23):
sounds silly because you don't think about it, but make
sure you don't cross up your brushes that you're using
the to you know, scrape and score up the alloy totally.

Speaker 6 (56:32):
Yeah, we don't.

Speaker 7 (56:33):
You don't want to pound any more contamination into that
as you're as you're trying to get the contamination out
of it. So that's kind of the biggest thing cleanliness,
you know, clean tungsten, clean material, Use some acet tone,
maybe use a torch. They you used acidtone, wiped it
with a rag, grab a torch, torchure quick. Make sure
you're burning off any little pieces of lint or cotton

(56:53):
or whatever that's on there, maybe a little bit of
oil or something like that. So getting it a little
warm beforehand might help to especially thicker aluminum. You want
to get some deep penetration in there and really hard
on illuminum, actually penetrate aluminum. So heating it up with
a torch pror it might be what you gotta do
prepairing a cylinder head or a block or something like that,

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a deep bevel.

Speaker 6 (57:15):
You know it's going to help you, all right.

Speaker 4 (57:18):
I like what you just said, James. I love what
you just said about heating it up having a consistent
heat to prevent that post weld crack too. So if
you're welding on your block, you're welding on something that's
massive underneath you're that weld metal is gonna shrink into
a tiny little puddle and then crack right along the
heat effected zone if you don't have a consistent heat.

(57:38):
So actually doing a careful, obviously careful, careful prehat in
that region is really helpful forgetting a good weld and
a strong weld that's not going to crack on you.

Speaker 1 (57:50):
All right. So I gotta bring this up because I've
seen a lot of people attempt to use it, But
what about spool guns for illuminum? Is there a play
for them? You think they're effective? What's the application for
a spool gun? Because I know there's a lot of
these out there like, why did that a spool gun?
Did you will?

Speaker 4 (58:11):
Yeah, I'll tell you my last one. I just I
worked with a buddy out in Florida who had a
headache crack that was made out of illuminum. And here's what.
There's a small unknown fact all aluminum cracks. If you
vibrate it in any form fashion, it could be ultrasonic.
Eventually it'll work hard and crack. So oftentimes on trailers,

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headache cracks things that you have around the house.

Speaker 1 (58:38):
For people don't know, the headache rack is the big
bars you see across the back window of a pickup truck,
normally fixed to the bed. That there's called a headache rack.

Speaker 4 (58:49):
Yea for those that don't prevents the headache. The reason
they're prevents the headache. Prevents something from the bed of
your truck flying into the back of your rim giving
you a headache.

Speaker 1 (58:57):
Headache crack.

Speaker 4 (58:58):
So, so he had a crack in that in that
aluminum headache crack, because I also like, I want to
make it lightweight and I want this big old steel, heavy,
big thing on my truck. So he had made it
out of illuminum. Well, it cracked, So we pulled out
that spool gun and ran it off of a of
an engine drive welders that I have and pulled that
spool gun out and it was awesome. That's a great

(59:21):
application of that. It acts. It's a MiG process spool
gun time little school Uh, there's definitely some technique to it.
And what James said about moving, move fast, that's that's
kind of that feeling with a spool gun is you're
going to do your own little mechanical pulse of your
hand and you're doing these little eighth the quarter ranch,

(59:42):
little forward and back weaves as you pull that trigger.
And you want to you want to weld hot right,
get in, get fast, get hot and move and uh
that's those spool guns can come in handy for that.
As far as like production welding with a school gun.
Now I go invest in like a legit, you know,
high end welder with a pushbowl gun with the right gases,

(01:00:03):
right weld et cetera. And that's those those guys making
you know, high end trailers or production level stuff. You're
gonna you're gonna buy the right welder. But for somebody,
for like me and my garage shoot, I'll use I'll
use a school gun all day long on the project.
I want to stick some things together.

Speaker 1 (01:00:19):
Yeah heck yeah yeah man. So again, it's one of
those things where it really depends on what your application is,
how you plan on showing that off. For a lot
of it was like, yeah, man, that's perfect. Allows me
to play with some lunum and at the same time,
you don't need to break down and get that super
crazy fancy machine if that's not something you're going after. Again,

(01:00:40):
it's there's so many ways in so many different techniques.
It's really great that you know, you guys can jump online.
You could. You know, east Ode is a great resource too, man,
they have all kinds of stuff up online that the
help out.

Speaker 4 (01:00:53):
We have free training. Yeah, we have free training online too.
You go on just start Oh yeah, our main website
and if you go up into service and knowledge and stuff,
you could man our website loaded with all sorts of stuff.
And then of course we load all sorts of videos
on YouTube, et cetera.

Speaker 1 (01:01:08):
Well kind of train. Yeah, you have actual videos that
people can go and and learn how to do a
couple of steps in MiG and tig and stick and
all all the kind of movie.

Speaker 12 (01:01:17):
You could go.

Speaker 4 (01:01:18):
You could go as deep as you want to go.
And like our our distributors or even our end users,
we can give you access to a portal that thing
gets you even deeper trainings. You've got the trainings online.

Speaker 1 (01:01:29):
Yeah, yeah, wild man, uh sad question? Will it also
yet things online there that show that a couple of
different techniques we were talking about earlier with the plasma machine.

Speaker 4 (01:01:41):
Yeah, I've got some videos I did I don't know,
five years ago or so about different techniques on gouging
with the plasma. So plasma gouging it's not just point
and shoot, you have you have some personal responsibility there too.
For the angle of the torch. Like you said, you
lay it down, you get this angle of the torch,
and then you get side to side motion for the width,

(01:02:03):
and there's different techniques to that. So you can move
in a U shape of V shape, a side the side,
a circle right, and all of that acts a little
bit different under the hood, and depending on your joint
geometry that you're trying to gouge out, Like for example,
if I'm gouging out a fill it weld, I love
to use a circle technique where I'm circling into the

(01:02:23):
top of the weld and pulling out out the bottom.
So imagine your art going in a circle down the
length of that weld in like a t joint A
fill it Well?

Speaker 1 (01:02:34):
Cool, right, yeah, man? All good stuff. And not only
is e cibate resource online apparently they have tons of
videos and training courses so forth that you can dive
into and check out. Also just it really is a
great comedy, great people. As you can tell, they're out
there kind of living it and uh man, if if
it wasn't for a man sharing them on the trail,

(01:02:56):
he'd been screwed.

Speaker 12 (01:02:57):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (01:02:58):
So they dive in. So it's it's cool out there
doing that and showing off. You know, everything is available now. Finally,
what is what's the future? We looked at AI in
several ways and you know, talking you know with a
lot of people that are using AI for well just

(01:03:19):
talking to James here, they're using it at full blown
custom in all kinds of ways, which we'll get into
in just a second. Is esop on the forefront of
AI and where do you see the future of welding,
robotics and that that type of going, especially with the
I don't know, the advantageous growth of AI.

Speaker 4 (01:03:42):
Right, we are.

Speaker 7 (01:03:43):
We are.

Speaker 4 (01:03:43):
We've actually acquired a few companies now in both robotics
and AI software, and so I've had the privilege to
work behind the scenes with some of those folks all
over the world. So AI is not localized to just
just us here, It's all over the world. So I've
got partners now within our family companies that I get

(01:04:05):
to ATOI working with. And so AI AI by itself
isn't going.

Speaker 10 (01:04:10):
To take your job.

Speaker 4 (01:04:10):
The people who know how to use AI are the
people they're going to take next generation jobs. So when
you talk about the future, the future is bright. I
love what I see in the future. I think we're
able to do more, cleaner, more efficient, faster better. Like
if you took your hot rods again, like just in

(01:04:32):
the last twenty years, and you look at how people
used to restore hot rods twenty years ago. Please don't
do it that way anymore, right, don't take your grinder
and your oxy field torch and all that to your
hot rod just by itself and think you're going to
do a great job there. You need to take your
plasma cutter, you need to take your press breaks, you
need to take shears you need to take. You know,

(01:04:52):
there's lots of different methodologies now where you don't create
more problems, you don't create worpage, you don't create, you know,
places that are going to corrode right, pay attention to
all those things. There's much better ways to restore.

Speaker 1 (01:05:06):
Hey, man, I gotta tell you my first My first
patch on that wide body charger was the driver's side
rear quarter. That's the one I went out to first,
because you know, I guess that's when every guy starts at.
But that also was the home of the gas cap.
And I got to tell you, man, one of the
first things I take what it was a patch I
made for that gas cat hole. And I didn't quite understand.

(01:05:28):
I understand people talk about, hey, you get too hot, man,
it's gonna warp this and pull that and blah blah blah.
I got done with that gas cap, man, and I
looked at it and I go, what the I just do?
And I'm I pulled. I got one side of it
so hot, I pulled the turn that just made I
pulled that some bitch flat. I was like, oh man,

(01:05:51):
I got way too much heat in And so then
you had to go and fix that. But yeah, man,
that was the first endeavor.

Speaker 4 (01:05:58):
Now, yeah, so now imagine imagine AI helping you make
some of those decisions. Right, That's where I see the
future happening. And that's certainly what we're we at East
Auburt making some of our own internal investments. Is like,
there are things we know that are helpful if we
can help an AI agent learn those things, you know,

(01:06:21):
much like a human being would learn it, but an
AI agent truly does learn iteratively on how things work.
Then if you have a responsible AI agent that's going
to give you good information out of it, it'll help
you as an individual doing your own restoration. Right, That's
where I see the future. So in three, four or
five years, dude, there's going to be so many resources

(01:06:42):
now that you can utilize to make your own life better,
to make your welds better, to make your cuts better.

Speaker 2 (01:06:51):
You know.

Speaker 4 (01:06:51):
One of the dreams I have certainly is like I
need to manufacture this. What are the best tools I
should be using to manufacture that. I'm constantly working with
manufactures all over the world, and instead of them just
asking me or just asking some you know, experts that's
been in the industry for thirty four years, I still
have a lot to learn. Right, As much as I

(01:07:12):
think I know, dude, I still don't know much, right, right,
learn something.

Speaker 1 (01:07:16):
Like seventeen to know everything?

Speaker 13 (01:07:17):
Man, Like, Yeah, isn't that right?

Speaker 4 (01:07:22):
That's right? Man, I was I wish I still knew
everything when I was seventeen.

Speaker 1 (01:07:26):
I was young enough to know everything.

Speaker 4 (01:07:27):
Good, Oh my gosh, Yeah, that's true. So that's that's
where I see AI going. Last, but not least, is robotics.
We do have several opportunities within East four robotics, whether
you're robotically welding or you're doing other things. We have
a wide variety of automation that we offer, and that

(01:07:51):
changes the game.

Speaker 9 (01:07:52):
Right.

Speaker 4 (01:07:53):
So the fact that you can have a robot, now
that's called a cobot work right alongside of you. You
can just point here's the beginning of the world, here's
the end of the world. Please weld if warming and
use the best process you know with weave or pulse
or whatever, and you push the button and it does it.
It's awesome.

Speaker 1 (01:08:10):
You don't even have to say please. You can just
hit command or something. They probably it's crazy man. Wild world.
Esob is at the forefront. What's the best way for
people to dive in look at some of the stuff
we discussed today, is USA or just.

Speaker 4 (01:08:30):
Dot com dot com And no matter where you're out
in the world, it'll take you to the right country
portion of that website. So if you're over in Europe,
it would take you to the East saub dot com
that's in Europe. Same thing for North America. Here, it'll
take you to eastaub dot com right here in the
United States.

Speaker 1 (01:08:48):
There you go. Man, his name is Chris Sherman Es
S a B. Is the companyob dot com a wealth
and aledge great resource for you by looking at weld
you plaza cutting, doing any of that. Definitely a company
to check out. And man, they're doing some really cool things.
A battery operated freaking weater that you get take on
some shut the front door. It's awesome, hey man, thanks

(01:09:09):
for your time, brother, appreciate it. Thanks for the good
saves on the trail. Great. It's great meeting you and
becoming a buddy and a friend and sure appreciate them
all right, well.

Speaker 4 (01:09:20):
It would be You're awesome. Thank you for all that
you do for the community. Man, hearing your stories the
community that you have created in Colorado.

Speaker 1 (01:09:29):
Manat thank you bro. You take care all right? See
you all right? All right, James with Full Blowing Custom
in the house. We got this big day October twenty fifth.
We go to tell you about well diving is some
cool things. You know, we're speaking with AI and what
it's doing for companies like you know, like Shirm's there Estop.

(01:09:49):
It's doing huge and crazy wonderful things and really opening
opening different well different avenues and concepts and applications and
everything else. It's also doing it for companies like James
at Full Blown Custom. When you think about what AI
is doing and how it's being incorporated, it's kind of

(01:10:10):
wild because now a lot of us behind the scenes,
but it's inching forward and man, I say inching, but
it's really it's kind of footing. It's you know, take
a big chunk at a time, and you know, before
you go to break is there a day that you
you don't use AI in your shop?

Speaker 7 (01:10:31):
Oh yeah, I mean I'm not using it every day,
but it's definitely a problem solver and I'm trying to
you know, I'm trying to learn it as time goes on,
because as I've learned it. Uh, you know, it's it's
produced what I've asked, and the better I get using it,
I think it's gonna probably as time goes on, we'll
probably end up using it more and more. There's a

(01:10:52):
bit of a learning curve, but it kind of all
starts with like what's your question and asking the right questions.

Speaker 6 (01:10:58):
Yeah, you're gonna I think.

Speaker 1 (01:10:59):
Its Scoop was even noticed that in some of the
three D printing that he does with his company, you know,
scoop scoops dot com by the way, a little shot
out there school, but yeah, man, it's uh, it is
probably more it's more based on the person using it
than it is the programs ahead. Really when you kind

(01:11:19):
of get down to it, how to utilize that. So
more of that in just a minute. More about October
twenty fifth, Trunk or Treat. We'll tell you about that
cool car show to boot ten twenty five at Willy
Be's garage is one of seven nine KVPI.

Speaker 2 (01:11:35):
Willibe's garage. You back in Willybe's garage.

Speaker 1 (01:11:41):
Some guys will be his garage. Happy Saturday, man, everybody's
out there and joining it. They said on the news.
Seasonably high today and now I'm like, I'm not sure
they're talking about the people or the weather. Now it's
it is. It's a warmer to day. It's gonna be nice, man,
and get out the hot riders, motorcycles, the trucks, whatever,
have a blast doing so. There's some cool events going on.

(01:12:03):
Put this event down in your calendar. October twenty fifth.
Last year, I can't remember the date we did it
last year. Do you know the day we did last year?

Speaker 6 (01:12:10):
Think it was right around the twenty fifth, was it?

Speaker 1 (01:12:12):
Yeah, that's pretty cool. Last year we were able to
do this cool chrunk or treat and turn it into
you know, a portion of the hand that feeds. We
had Caro Dodge Challenger Club come out and man, those
guys are awesome. Hopefully they'll come out this year too,
but mark October twenty fifth down. We're gonna turn into

(01:12:33):
a chunk or treat for the kids and look, fret
they kid out there. You guys, it's the best, especially
when you have car centric families. You know, all of
us hot riders, we hope to hell our kids get
into it. I don't want to force my kid into it,
but you know, as as a new new dad and

(01:12:53):
mix and having a boy. You hope, like hell, your
boy follows follow some of your passions and you know,
like cars and hot rides and wants to build him
or play with him or whatever. I think my boy's
heading down that road. He is significantly now. And man,
going to a chunk or treat for him is like

(01:13:13):
the most exciting thing in the world because a he
gets a lot of candy and they don't have to
work too hard for it. But you also get to
see some really amazing cars, cool builds and rides and
car clubs and it's just cool of it.

Speaker 2 (01:13:27):
Man.

Speaker 1 (01:13:28):
You bring the kids out, you have some fun, show
off your hot ride. At the same time, make kids
happy by doing the chuck or treat thing, making them
through a ring toss or a bloom burst or something
like that, and it becomes an awesome day. So we're
playing on October twenty fifth, So scribble that one down.
It's a Saturday if I recall. Right, Yeah, so it

(01:13:50):
all begins right around ten am.

Speaker 7 (01:13:52):
I think it's a good time to start tenhil whatever.
You know, stay as long as you want. We're gonna
have a live band out there. Gone from about I
think from like twelve to three. Have Damon Woods harmonious
drunk playing real badass funk.

Speaker 1 (01:14:05):
Uh harmonious junk. Uh. That's awesome. So yeah, man, mark
that one down. It should be a blast. Bring out
your hot ride. Load up with some nonpariful food items.
We're helping out Denver Rescue Mission collecting non perisul food items.
So great day, cool event, looking forward to seeing everybody. Uh,
that should be a blast. Your shop especially, I remember

(01:14:26):
that event last year. People, wow whatever, you know, things
you were building and things we were doing. I remember
last year how happy you were and you got that
crazy cool you know. I got this new student shoo machine, Willie.
I'm like, what did you get? You should see the legs? Yeah,
just a map this thing. Uh, he got some He's
got some really amazing equipment down there. Uh, tell us

(01:14:46):
a little bit about how some of that equipment is
changing how you used to do things compared to how
you doing now.

Speaker 7 (01:14:55):
Well, kind of like Sherm was saying, you know, if
we can get a robot to do our job, yeah,
you know, so it's you got to learn the robot.
But the robot can make turns and curves and cut things.
And do things that you no matter how study of
a hand you have, you can't be doing it.

Speaker 1 (01:15:11):
So let me put it to you like this. It's
wild to watch a machine cut you out of control arm,
you know, or build you a control arm. You know.
You think about that and the stamp steel when you
get from you know, the factories, or you know, as
you go up and performance, you will see some you know,
some tu bitter control arms. One're made out of you know,

(01:15:32):
the best stuff, strongest material, alloys, got custos, well it
all over it, blah blah blah. He builds all that
stuff in the house like he does it right there,
which is kind of crazy to watch it. Assist right,
it'll build ends or you know, things that you probably
well never knew could be built just in house at

(01:15:54):
a local custom outroad shop.

Speaker 6 (01:15:56):
Yeah, it's a it's a problem solver too.

Speaker 7 (01:15:57):
You know, when you're cutting a car apart and build
it all from scratch, you're gonna encounter a lot of problems.
And you know, you can only fabricate yourself so well
until you really start needing some machined components and so
bringing the robots and the CNCs and things of that
manner and you're really able to solve the problems and
make it.

Speaker 1 (01:16:17):
You know, can you give us an example of what
it's done where you were like man Life Saver.

Speaker 7 (01:16:23):
Oh, we did a cantilever rear suspension on this C ten,
So we got a bunch of billet components on that
on the breaking system.

Speaker 6 (01:16:30):
I mean there's it's it's all throughout, so.

Speaker 1 (01:16:32):
It's building through all these cannilever parts. It's just machining these.

Speaker 6 (01:16:36):
Yeah, bushings and brackets and tabs, uh all.

Speaker 1 (01:16:39):
And you can imagine having that at your disposal, you know,
where you could custom But it's not like it's a
lot of people are looking at that part and imagining
in their mind that ugly, grotesque looking stamp steel part
that you get from the factory. But these are the
the pieces that look like Billy and they're all polished,

(01:17:01):
they're all have those cool dimples in it or you know,
machined edges, and it's just a completely different looking piece
when it's all finished compared to that ohe stamped out.
You know, they smack a piece of metal with a
bunch of indenttions and dimples and you know, structure to it,
and it just rolls off the press like that.

Speaker 7 (01:17:21):
Yeah, you want sick door hinges or hood hinges. Everybody wants,
you know, a billet part here and there, a little
accent piece that's that's helpful. But you know, custom knuckle
assemblies and things of the sort. You're trying to solve
complex suspension geometry issues using factory parts. You're kind of
locked into a corner using that. But if you can
design your own and make your own, now you can operate.

Speaker 1 (01:17:45):
However, you imagine doing your own custom steering knuckle or
suspension knuckles where you could drop you know, say you
wanted a one and three quarter inch drop. You know
you can get a two inch drop, but what if
it's too much, You can get a three inch drop.
You know, you can customize it to whatever you want
that static sands who you want that look to be
and still have this robust looking piece that looks like

(01:18:06):
something you paid way extra to have a machine to
have this big company produced and do and uh, you
know when you slapped it un where these guys are
doing it in the house and they're customizing it to
whatever the application is. I've seen that seat that pickup
truck is talking about that see ten or twenty whatever
it is, dude, that thing is. It's ridiculous. Go to

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their website or their Instagram page. You'll see it. Man.
I mean the what size is rear tires? Having the
back of you.

Speaker 7 (01:18:33):
Listen to this twenty four by eighteen and a half,
they're like three fifty fives or something.

Speaker 1 (01:18:38):
Stupid four oh fives? Yeah, how stupid is that four
oh five tire? I mean, good god, my butt. The
wide body charger has a three twenty five or thirty five?
And I was like, who is going to have a
wider tire than that? It's insane? What you know? What
you can do nowadays with this this equipment, And again,

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a lot of it comes down to your learning curve,
was it? That's that's a good question. Was it difficult
to learn?

Speaker 10 (01:19:07):
How?

Speaker 1 (01:19:07):
Dude? Yeah?

Speaker 6 (01:19:09):
Every day's a school day.

Speaker 7 (01:19:10):
I mean, shoot, I got the machine, but I'm bury,
I'm you know, the machine way out performs what I
can do, you know, And like sir will.

Speaker 1 (01:19:18):
Say it, it is the more you learn about that machine,
the more that machine can work in your favor.

Speaker 7 (01:19:25):
Yeah, and that's where AI is going to be helpful.
You know, you can feed AI the user manual to.

Speaker 6 (01:19:31):
Your machine and.

Speaker 7 (01:19:32):
And start feeding it, you know, CAD drawlings and start
having it help you.

Speaker 6 (01:19:38):
You know, right, the CAM write the g code so
that it can.

Speaker 1 (01:19:41):
You know, so you can just feed your entire instruction
manual into AI. But here it is remember the Matrix
scene where he shoves that thing and kind of Reeve's head.
You know that rids like, oh well I could I knew, yeah,
I know, kung fu, I could fly a hell god
whatever like man. That can you imagine and how quickly
and exponentially that could increase your productivity.

Speaker 7 (01:20:05):
Because if you could do that instant gratification too. I mean,
we could design a part, send it off, wait three
months for it to come back, but that's not helpful.

Speaker 6 (01:20:13):
I need that part yesterday.

Speaker 1 (01:20:15):
Yeah. And so now you're you're just using that AI
technology to help you understand your equipment more so, therefore
you could.

Speaker 7 (01:20:25):
Create and the science behind it, you know, the metallurgy
or geometry questions or you know, the list goes on.
I constantly got a question in my head and Google
can only take you so far. So AI has been helpful.
It's also lied to me multiple times, so be weary.
It's Uh, you might want to.

Speaker 6 (01:20:44):
Ask it for its sources.

Speaker 1 (01:20:45):
Yeah, there is, Uh, there is that. Uh, there was
that one AI program that says Charlie Kirk, Charlie Kirk's
assassination was done by a right wing maggot. Dude, it's
still even AI still to this day, doesn't It still
says that. So there is. There is a lot of
things about AI that depends on how it's been how
what direction has been aimed at. But for things like

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this and that learning curve, if you're feeding it your
instruction manual, Look, it's the best math machine there is
and when you break it down, it's just math. If
you can understand a little bit more, figure out ways
to get it to work for you, you see how productivity
can skyrocket. Imagine making your own steering knuckles and suspension

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pieces that you know you don't have to go out
of house for and pay a lot of money for.
That in itself is something that that's a game changer
for so many people. Let alone, Yeah, you can build
your own. You know, I need a long arm travel
suspension for my jeep. You can build that in house.
That'd be nuts man crazy. So a lot of opportunity

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with these machines, but there is a price to them. However,
the more you're plugging AI into it, the more or
productivity growth you'll have. And who knows, man, the sky
could be, well, the ceiling kind of endless at that point.
It really depends on whoever knows that owner's many of

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the best, which is kind of cool man, kind of
a cool tool to create with. Started new canvas every afternoon.
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You're back in Willie B's garage.

Speaker 1 (01:27:53):
Y'all have to say that for Breeze commercial. He said
you go from fish to fresh in a matter of
a spray. I was like, damn, all right, look you guys,
Olivia's garage. It's about ready to wrap things up. You
can join your Saturday. Let me tell you if you're
a family, if you're aware of a family, if you
know anybody that is really having a difficult struggle when

(01:28:16):
it comes to mobility, being able to move, get to
and from, get their kids to appointments, or elderly parents
to appointments for themselves cars for Christmas. We officially opened
the portal for nominations last week, so you can go
to Williebefoundation dot org. You can see kind of what
we're doing as far as some cars. We post up
some videos there. But we have opened up for nominations

(01:28:40):
for people to you know, tell their stories, share a
story about a friend, a neighbor, of family member, if
you're aware, maybe about yourself, totally okay to nominate yourself,
if you're aware of anyone that is just struggling to
get to and from. It's what Cars for Christmas is
all about. It's that time of year to open open
up for nominations. We've been hey me and all the

(01:29:02):
guys will shout out to look at I let me
tell you again. I try to emphasize this all the time.
If it weren't for a handful of guys who donate
all of their time. And I'm talking to Scott, Robert, Brian, Chris,
you know, Mikey. There's just a lot of these guys,
Tommy and Danny. There's a big friend circle that that

(01:29:26):
does amazing things. We even got a little clip involved
a little bit lately. So these guys have really made
it just grow up and you know, become what it
is today being able to get thirty to forty cars
finished and fixed and done. Is it is? Man, It

(01:29:47):
is a task. Oh you don't have You have no
idea how much work we do on these cars. We
had an Indie out of car twice, that stupid pony
at Montana minivan. We had to drop it out twice
this year. It's just a big job. And we man,
we're doing turbo right now in a mini coup, have
another one to get cleaned up. And then this week
the TV show I do two Guys Garage that's on
there on weekends on a motor trade network. It's it's

(01:30:11):
coming in the shoot a two Guys Garage episode of
Cars to Christmas, which has been kind of a cool
blessing too. So get some guys on TV and they
like that, and we get some new T shirts and
it's new tools. He sends a bunch of tools. So
that's always good. But what a job, what a task?
What a monumental give? But that that give when we

(01:30:35):
do it is so worth it. It makes these guys
donate so much of their time. And look me too,
nobody's out there more than me. So it's a blessing.
I got a wife who's allowed me to do it
and the kids understand and it's been just an overall blessing.
So we get cars if you're aware of somebody needs
a car, needs riding, needs mobility. I tend to reach

(01:30:57):
out to the BVPI family first and try to get
as many cars as I can do to help out.
So Willibfoundation dot org, Willie spelled w I L l
I E. Don't you dare do it like the fish man,
I will come after you. Willibefoundation dot org. And again, man,
thanks to thanks everybody involved with it this year. So
we'll be there today working on some cars, getting everything

(01:31:19):
ready for the TV show coming in in a week.

Speaker 10 (01:31:22):
Man.

Speaker 1 (01:31:22):
So my man, James, full Blown Custom. We got October
twenty fifth marked as the Trunk and Treat and the
big hand that feeds food drive. That's gonna be a
blast store ups nonmparison with food items. James, where do
people find you? Follow you and see some of your
crazy work? And man, we have we got to have
another show where we just talk about what we were
off there. There's some cool things they're doing at Full

(01:31:47):
Blown Custom. If you guys need an unbelievable resto shop,
you need some turbos done. You need a crazy cool
exhaust or anything like that, look him up, check him out.
See what they're doing. Things are growing in a quick
and rapid way down there at full blown custom that's
because they're doing great cool things custom with a K
mark that day, October twenty fifth. Down on the calendar,

(01:32:09):
we'll have a full open house where you go check
out some of the cool things are doing. How do
people follow you?

Speaker 2 (01:32:14):
Man?

Speaker 1 (01:32:14):
People check you out, see some more of the wow
the wacky things you and the crew are doing it.
Full blown customer, well most up today.

Speaker 7 (01:32:21):
Check us out on Instagram. Update that you know once
a week or so. Just full blown Customs on Instagram
or our website. You know it's got some good information. Yeah,
www dot full blown Customs dot com.

Speaker 1 (01:32:33):
He said, www. Scoopy said, Www.

Speaker 6 (01:32:36):
Do you don't do that anymore?

Speaker 1 (01:32:37):
I don't think so.

Speaker 6 (01:32:38):
Just full blown.

Speaker 1 (01:32:38):
Customers TTP because whatever.

Speaker 6 (01:32:43):
The www.

Speaker 1 (01:32:46):
That dad for the world wide web, y'all worldwide.

Speaker 7 (01:32:52):
But yeah, check us out, post up some stories, some
you know, weekly updates on kind of the stuff.

Speaker 6 (01:32:58):
We got going on around the shop. Off all along.

Speaker 7 (01:33:00):
We'll just stop on by, say hi. He turns into
a clubhouse, sometimes, but it's cool.

Speaker 6 (01:33:04):
I like it.

Speaker 1 (01:33:06):
Who knows, man might have might have the old charger
back in there for something before Seema. I gotta get
a console. Bill. I was trying to get Darya to
help me with that. He's busy. Yeah, man, that's I think.
I'm gonna accept that challenge and and try to dust
off the old white body and get it ready for
SEMA next year. Seema this year is going to be crazy.

(01:33:28):
But see these cars and some of the cool builds
are doing, and they have that one back in there.
That'd be amazing. So yeah, man, that's big news. And
you know what, it motivates me to get it done.
So I need that motivation in my life because kids, man,
I got priorities, and unless you make something just up,
I mean absolute like cars for Christmas, we park my

(01:33:48):
stuff and we don't see it again until after Cars
of Christmas. But a Seema invite to be in a booth,
that might be motivation to get it done. It's a
rare opportunity, but when you got take advantage of it
when it's given. So I'm gonna try to get that
thing rocked and ready. Uh. It will be a blast
to drive it. Man, there's no doubt.

Speaker 6 (01:34:06):
A couple less hours of sleep you'll be all right.

Speaker 1 (01:34:08):
Yeah, no, man, get plenty of that when you're dead.
All right, guys, Willibs Garage, let's officially call it done
for the day. You guys, enjoy your afternoon, enjoy your weekend.
Uh and side note, if you guys need anything like well,
just any customize plastic go oh, go to my man
scoop scoops dot com, scoop anything you want to say

(01:34:30):
about the website. Got anything you're working as far as uh,
cool up this weekend? Any cool orders? Nope, not really No,
the printer's open.

Speaker 6 (01:34:37):
If you got an order, I can get it out
this weekend.

Speaker 1 (01:34:39):
There you go. Any specialized concert ticket something kind of cool?
Uh hit him up scoop scoops dot com, full blown
custom dot com as well or online Instagram full blown customs.

Speaker 10 (01:34:51):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (01:34:51):
Great to see you guys, Thanks spending your morning with us.
Will he be these garage signing out for now. You guys,
have a great week and we'll see you bright and
early on Monday. It's one of seven nine kbp I.

Speaker 2 (01:35:02):
Willib's garage is now closed until next Saturday morning. Email
your questions for next week.

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