Episode 34 - Thelma & Louise - 14 Going On 40

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What. Um. I just realized, like I have no idea how I
want to start this because it's soweird. Um, because it's like,
I don't know, do we starttalking about road trips? I don't.
I don't know. It's a fuckedup road trip, it really is.

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So it's like, Okay, allright, I think I have something.
All Right, just clear your mind, clean palette. Okay, it's done.
Okay. So, Andrea, whatare your thoughts on Western movies?
Westerns? Um? I've never beena big fan um of especially like the

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old shoot him Up kind of Western. I kind of kind of like the
like, uh newer versions like they'veremade some of them in the past few
years. Uh, and even likeDjango and Unchained right, and then um
what was the other one, uhthe Hateful Eight mm hmm. And then

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there was uh, there was anotherone that came out that was a remake
of something else. Those I actuallykind of enjoyed. I like, I
I'm not big on like them,John Wayne, those kind of movies.

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They've never why what about you?Well? So okay, and the reason
I kind of asked this, andnot only is it sort of related to
our movie today, but um mymom is super into westerns. And I
did not know this about her growingup, but it has become like a
thing that she's really into westerns.So, for instance, when we went

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to visit my sister last summer,and she, you know, doesn't know
how to work like the TV ever, you know, which is understandable,
you know, so, but she'slike, aren't there any Westerns? How
do I watch some Westerns? Becausethe TV channels are different, first of
all, because my sister's in Kentucky. And then secondly, she doesn't have

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like cable television or anything. Shejust has like like a dreaming services like
Roku type of thing, and sowe had to literally like find something to
like sign in for her to watchall of these westerns. And she just
loves westerns. And I was tryingto think about it, and I'm like,
do I even really have much likeexposure to Western movies? You know,

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I'm like, I don't know thatI've seen that many. I was
really kind of struggling with thinking of, um, you know what I've seen
that qualifies as like a Western?Besides, you know, I mean there's
some elements of it in this moviethat you know, we watched for today,
Um there's one. I think it'scalled The Missing Miss I think I've

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heard of that, and it's areally good one where um I remember that
one being really suspenseful. But likeI was never into Tombstone. I mean,
I like Back to the Future threeyes, I count, you know.
Like, so it's just interesting thatthere's this whole genre of movies that
I just feel like I am completelynot versed in, you know, like

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I really don't know Western's that well. But when I went to go dig
for something for my mom, Imean, there's it's it's a well,
there's a ton, there's a ton. I mean there we even found like
a Western channel for her. AndI was like, I'm sure a channel
for everything. Come on, that'strue, that's true. So well,

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so then for today, you know, this movie really has kind of like
a Western vibe and it's kind ofgot. I mean, it really sort
of is, so we might aswell just kind of get right to it.
So welcome to fourteen Boy. I'mforty. This is Melissa, and
this is Andrea, and we're twobest friends event in high school and we

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revisit movies usually during the time we'veknown each other, but this one breaks
that rule a little bit. Today, we're heading to Arkansas to talk about
the nineteen ninety one movie Thelma andLouise. If it's been a while since
you've seen it, here's the quickdescription from IMDb. Two best friends set
out on an adventure, but itsoon turns around to a terrifying escape from

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being hunted by the police as thesetwo girls escape for the crimes they committed.
Yeah, yeah, well it's youknow what I will say almost every
quick logline or quick summary of thisafter watching it again this time around,
to me, almost none of themcut it because it's like, no,
there's there's a shot, but it'slike so much more, you know,

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it's it's kind of wild that wayit was. This was a cool one
to revisit because I haven't I know, I've seen it like a few times,
because I remember basically every single thingin this movie. I've seen it
multiple times, but it has beenquite a while since i've watched it.
I'm here says so for me,I have seen it, but I have

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not seen it multiple times. Itis one that I haven't really I've seen
it, Like I feel like it'sone of those that I've seen through through
the years, and like I wouldcatch it on TV, like you know,
yeah, of the times when weused to be able to before all
the streaming services and before I canceledmy cable and when I just channel flip

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and it's one of those movies whereyou can pick up, you know,
and just watch it from whatever point. Yeah. Well, I think I
figured out for me why it is. I haven't seen it very many times
because when I really thought about thisand that it came out in nineteen ninety
one, I mean we and actuallyit's funny, it came out May twenty

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fourth of nineteen ninety one, soliterally we had just like we're just turning
twelve. Yeah, so clearly thiswas a little lost on us. Like
we were seen it in the theater, this was not for us as an
audience. So obviously my first viewingof it would have been either through seeing

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it on TV, and which likemany times, and I'm not entirely sure
I could have been watching an editedfor TV version because I didn't have cable,
so if I saw it, itmight have even been on network TV
like years down the road, orI might rented it. But overall,
I would say the overall story andvibe. I can kind of understand that

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now because this is really poignant withthis like adult best friend friendship that I
think was probably lost on me whenI was younger. Like seeing it this
time, I was like, whyin the actual hell haven't I seen this
movie twenty five times? Yeah?You know, like I was like,
and I think it's because it's like, now I am who it's speaking to,

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like this, right, this iswhat you know? Yeah, I
needed to be older basically, right. Yeah, Oh yeah, I think
it's definitely something that you have towatch to appreciate. You have to watch
in the right age range. It'slike the right stage of your life.
Maybe, yes, you know,like because I definitely think I don't know,
I just like you said, howit was kind of really cool to

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revisit this. I think that's whatwas going on with me was I was
like, oh my gosh, likethis is so it was just so um
hitting so many vibes and so manythings because it was like so relatable,
you know, and like you werelike, I can see these women for
who they are in these characters ina way that I was like, I

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never thought twice about any of thissaw the viewings when I was younger,
no, like the couple of timesI might have seen it, So it
was very cool to watch it thistime, Like, I have a brand
new appreciation for this movie for sure, that it was really cool. I'm
really glad we picked it, eventhough it's outside of our normal parameters.
Yes, nineteen ninety three and forward, you know, so I guess,

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well we you know it's not Imean, it doesn't sound like either of
us to have our super strong memoryof like a first time seeing it,
do you know. I mean,I mean, I'm sure it was probably
like high school rental kind of thing. Like, well, the crazy thing
was this the same year that Silenceof the Lamp was released. Now,

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Oh that shit'll scar anybody. Youremember your first viewing a Silence of the
Lambs. So I feel like becausethese were all big Oscar contenders and then
it was a big deal with thenominations. That also, I'm sure that
there were like the parodies on SaturdayNight Live, Like, I'm sure that
in the nineties when this was happening, I was probably very aware of Thelma

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and Louise. Yeah, but itwas I would imagine it was pretty lost
on me. Of like what themovie really like was meaningful and what it
meant. So, so yeah,I don't have a super strong feeling for
that, but I definitely felt likeas I was watching it, moment for
moment there were kind of all theseiconic things happening that I was like,

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I know this, I know this, I know this, but like I
still was kind of like, Idon't exactly remember how it plays out,
Like I know where we're going toget in the final scene, but I
don't exactly remember how they get there. Like I was like, right,
surprise at how which I really rememberedall of the entire story that it actually

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did surprise me because this must havemade an impression on me when I first
saw it, so I remember,well, Brad Pitts certainly made an impression
on me as a twelve thirteen yearold. Sure, so I mean they

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listen rightfully, So well we'll gothere. Yeah, we'll go there.
Yeah, all right, So let'sget into it. So when the movie
starts, we are introduced to twoof the most fabulous, iconic ladies in
all of the world, Susan Sarandonand Gina Davis. I mean, what's
not to love there? This,it's so awesome, Like right away I

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was like I'm here for this,like this is this is good. This
is good. So Louise who SusanSurandon's character, and Susan Surandon is older
than Gina Davis and so and youcan you know, I mean not it's
not like oh wow, she's soyou know, so much older, but
you could tell that there was especiallyeven in the as they introduce the Thelma

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character, there's like a night likea naive factor there and kind of you
know, right like she just youcan tell Louisa the more but she has
been through more. Yeah, she'slived lived more life, yes, than
Thelma. And so Louise is workingat a diner and she calls Thelma on
the phone and is asking are youready? And we see Gina Davis kind

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of you know, stammering around andfussing around in her house, which is
kind of this nothing too special,looks like a you know, like a
little little house. Uh, andthat she hasn't asked her husband yet if
she can go wherever it is thatthey're going, but she's she's going to
pack, so we know they're goingto go on some kind of a road
trip. So we get from there, we go into Thelma and her husband

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Darryl and Daryl the Dick. Imean it's bad, it's real bad.
Darryl is played by Christopher McDonald andyeah, I mean there's nothing that ends
up coming up that he's not adick, like right like the whole time.

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Yeah, I love in this sceneThelma. She was watching it and
I was just kind of laughing becauseI've done this before where she just keeps
on reaching into the freezer for thecandy bar and then putting it back in,
and then going back in and reachingin a candy bar and like eating
a bite and then she's like okay, well and then putting it back in
and then reaching back. I waslike, oh, I've done that.

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Oh my gosh. Yeah, likewhen you're stressed or something, you're like,
I don't know what to do,so you're like constant. Well,
she's just got like all this nervousenergy is she's trying to get ready and
she asks him if he wants somethingspecial for dinner, and you know,
he's trying to go to work andhe's a carpet salesman and a regional manager
and he's real busy and she's like, um, it's Friday night, Like

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what do you mean you're gonna behome? Like like you might not be
home for dinner. So right awayyou can tell that, like this marriage
is not very good. Um Ibut just put my notes clearly. He
is an asshole, yeah, likeum, and he's got this you know,
red corvette and he leaves. Ashe's leaves, he's yelling at people
that are working in the yard.I mean he's just no, there's no

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sunshine radiant off of his ass atall. Um. And she never asks
about the weekend, but just goesanyway. And uh, like she's packing
and it's like she's bringing fishing stuff, like she says she's just gonna bring
the whole house. She said,Yeah, she's packing everything. I mean
she's just throwing it into her suitcase. And it's like this frantic packing.

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And then you come to Louise,who's just very methodical. Everything's in bags,
everything is you know, organized andjust in just in this right place.
So I love that, Like youcan already see what their personality type.
Absolutely and you can see the yinyang relationship like it's very um complimentary.

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You know, they are they areopposites in a lot of ways,
you know. Um, And sowhen they're packing, they do tell us
that they're trying to go to themountains to stay in this cabin that someone's
letting them borrow or whatever, tolike, you know, get a girl's
awakend, get a getaway. Idon't know, fishing would be my choice

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for a girl's weekends. I mean, well, I now what my impression
of that was, They're going tothis cabin in the mountains because it's an
affordable opp tunity. Like, right, it doesn't really look like we never
know really does Thelma work or doesshe just kind of stay home, so

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like we don't know what kind ofaccess to money she really has. And
Louise works at a diner, SoI'm gonna guess it was like this was
just a vacation of opportunity, likeyeah, not that they necessarily wanted to
go fishing and things. Right,speaking of the diner, were you completely
and utterly grossed out the fact thatthey were smoking in the kitchen? Um?

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I was totally grossed out. However, this did bring me right back
to a time when like that wasall just totally fucking normal. Oh my
god, it was like in myGrandma's house, it was just normal,
Like it was so normal. Thesmoking section in the restaurant, I know,
it's just the smoking, smoking everywhere, smoking, so gross, so

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gross. So Thelma has literally packedfor all scenarios, including asking should she
bring a lantern, and Luis islike, the place has electricity, calm
down, you never know, Iwill, but I love. Her answer
to that is, well, whatif a psycho killer cuts the power off?

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And I was like, you knowwhat, I love this logic.
I'm here for it and I loveI also wrote that like their outfits are
adorable, like they've are ready withtheir little um, you know, scarf
around for the court, the convertible, and like they're just adorable. They're
like, oh my god, Selma'soutfit it's like jean jacket with pearls and

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lace and like any other chatch keyyou could like, yes, the dazzle
onto your outfit. I felt likewhen I was looking at Felma, it
was as if Debbie Gibson put heroutfit together. Oh am, I right,
yeah, lace and pearls and stonewashedjean jacket and then it was like
the jean skirt that's just the top, but then it's like a favorite bottom.

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It was very teen, which like, yes, I was totally here
for it. I also loved thatshe busts out her little like pink and
blue polaroid camera and they take aselfie. I know, I was like
the sealfie. Yes. Um,so they're on the road. I do
love this sort of cavalier way thatThelma, Like we know, she never

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even told her husband she was going. She stuck a note on the microwave,
like she's just like, fuck it, I'll deal with it when I
get back. And they're on theroad, and I love almost like so,
um, Louise, will you takecare of this gun? And it's
like again, literally Thelma has packedeverything. I love Louise's reactions. Just

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just put it in my purse.What are you doing? Just put it
in my purse. Um. Sothis whole thing of them kind of getting
on the road has this really lovely. You can see their friendship immediately,
you can see their personalities, youknow, kind of the roles they play.
It's great. I love this wholeopening sequence. Yeah for sure,

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um, and I love when thenwe also get a little more insight into
again Louise being a little older thanher, more mature, having more life
experience, because Thalma tells her shenever asked her husband and because Darrell never
lets her do anything, and Thalmasays, well, you get what you

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settle for. Yeah, it's like, I mean the truth. M hmmm.
I love that Thalma's like pretending tosmoke too, Yeah, like she's
she's looking at how she looks likewhen she's pretending to smoke. I mean

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it was, yes, it wasreally cute. And then she just like
she comes off very especially at thebeginning of this very naive, very sheltered,
like she like she doesn't have alot of experience. Well do they
I can't remember. Do they saythat that basically that I think later they
have the discussion that she married Darryllike right after high school or whatever.

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Well, yeah, she definitely doesn'thave that. And I think, what
is you know when you are lookingat Thelma in this there's this kind of
childlike quality to her, Yeah,which brings out the mom like quality in
Louise. Yet they're supposed to befriends, which is like so it at
the beginning of the movie, Iremember, like my thought process was,

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like I am really not liking Thelma, like she is kind of oh yeah,
like she's that dits friend that you'relike, you're a grown person,
would you get it together? AndI do love where it goes, like
it's like it pays off this thiswhole thing at the beginning, it does
payoff, so you just got toget through it. But Thumbe wants to

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stop for like a drink or adinner at like a one of these country
western right. I feel like Ihave been to a place like this in
uh Arizona when I want to govisit my friend and it was like all
Harley's outside and I was like,are we She's like no, it's it's

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a lot of fun, don't worry. And I was like, are we
gonna get like kicked out because orjumped because we don't have the right aesthetic?
To me, I would absolutely belike, um, oh my god,
what's it? Like I'm city slickers, Like yeah, like sorry,
but um I don't have on anyfringe or boots or cowboy hats. Right.

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I was like, that is notnot me. I am not.
I don't listen to country music.I don't I don't do country. I
don't own cowboy boots. I don'town a ten gallon half I but for
these girls, they just kind ofpop right in. They're ready to have
some fun. Um. Felma ordersa shot of wild turkey. I love
this about her. She's not fuckingaround. She might kind of drink her.

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Louise gets a margarita with a shotof quer ball on the side.
Yeah she's because she's you know,it's just a pression, proper lady.
Um. And Louise is sort ofshocked that Thelma's ordering a shot, but
like joins her in it, youknow. So now we see Louise is
like, yeah, yeah, we'reletting loose like this is we're gonna have

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some fun, like that's what we'rehere to do. Um. And then
a dude approaches the table and callsthem a couple of cutpie dolls, like
you, oh, I love asas this guy is sitting here. Sitting
there, Louise like blows smoke inhis face. Just love it. Like

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that's a baller move. Oh yeah, m hmm. She's just like she's
not buying it, she's not havingit. She's like, oh God,
She's like tell me more right,It's great. I feel like that's the
two ratchet as bitches we are,especially now, we would be like,

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oh, like yeah, yeah,this is not working dude. But then
you will have those friends who arelike oh my god, yeah and just
laughing it up. And that's whatthat's what the Alma's doing. And she's
like, I'm go dance and likeI have in my notes to ask you
how hard would you roll your eyes? They'd be all the way across.

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They'd probably fall out of my headand be rolling across the dance floor.
At a point, I was likewhat as soon as I was watching this
scene, I was like, Ihave to ask Gandria how hard would you
be rolling your eyes at this entireexchange? Because she does fall into that,
and like you said, we've hadthose friends before where it's like the
attention, the attention starved. Yeah, that like we'll go with something like

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this and you're like, are youfor fucking rail right now? Get rid
of this closer? Okay? Youknow, and Louise does get rid of
him. Um and some almost likeall your years of waiting tables has made
you jaded. I mean, andyou know I could kind of relate to
service and the survice industry. Itcan it can ja it can it can

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well also, and you know,once you've had your few fair share of
Knights of cocktails out at the bar, the smarmy guy that approaches your table
that's a little sweaty and yeah,like and it's just you know what,
no loses the appeal. We knowwhere this is going, Like, let's
just why don't why don't we justask you to exit now? Um,
so we discover that this guy's nameis Harlan, that is, you know,

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sending them some more drinks now.Now he's trying to play like some
kind of classy move like let mesend him things and so um so cute,
like Thelma's like, let's dance,come on, let's go have fun,
gets up and Louise is like okay, you know you're gonna with her,
and Thelma freaking pieces out and goesdances with this Harlan and Louisa like

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left behind at the table. Iknow, I was kind of like mm
again, like Thelma doesn't come offvery she doesn't endear herself to the audience
at this point very very much likeit it Yeah, but I mean a
real immature kind of move, andit's like, yeah, so again this

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whole time, I feel like Iwas really wondering on this viewing because again
I didn't remember having these feelings aboutGina Davis in this movie, and and
about Thelma as a character. AndI was like, am I am I
remembering this wrong? Like I don'tremember not liking her, you know what
I mean. But I'm like,now, I again after watching it.

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It's very purposeful how they're laying thisout at the beginning. So this whole
scene obviously it's like a country barwhatever, you know. Everybody's again wearing
cowboy boots and it's very eighties countryum. And then the guy singing,
I actually had to stop, likeI pause it. And luckily I was

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watching it. I had rented it, I think, and when I paused
it like it shows who who thesepeople are, because I literally thought that
guy was Matt Dylan, because MattDylan in this room h And I pause
it and then his name pops upand Dave's like, no, that's not
some other dude. And I waslike, oh, because I you could

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have just told me it was MattDylan and I would agree. I was
like, is that Matt Dylan?Like no, yeah. I was like
why that would be Like that wouldbe a really weird role for him,
maybe like the singer guy a funbut I mean that guy that dude looked
exactly like him, doppelganger. M. So the dancing's happening and Harlan gives

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off major creeper vibes like too muchhandsy, it's just it's not good.
Um. He has like Thelma withhis arm around her neck like super close,
and like if I were Louise,everything in me is like this has
got to fucking stop right here,like yeah, no, why are you
grabbing her around the neck like justI'm not saying in a threatening way,

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but like the smarmie weird like it'stoo much, too fast, like you're
trying to possess, like she's yourpossession now. It was and again brings
me back to when we were inlike college and like in our early twenties
and we will go out and goto the bar and you'd have a friend

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who is maybe drinking a little toomuch and then the guy who's seeing this
weird opportunity to like weasel his wayin there and like, m it's just
I was like oooh, I'm heavingflashbacks. Oh absolutely, and Pete.
And it's the thing where when you'vebeen in that situation and you are giving

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your friends the eyeballs of like saveme now, bitch, right now,
get over here and tell me,like the cops are here, we need
to leave, or something like youget over here and save me, or
then we've suddenly become lesbians and I'myour girlfriend and whatever you do, don't
call me by my real first nameto just make something up on the fly,
like and yeah, I forget.We had we had names that we'll

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each other names. Absolutely, wetotally had code names. I can't remember
what it was though, Oh Iremember, but I'm not telling him because
what if we have to use themagain. I'll talk to him to you
later, literally, am I?So I like that, just totally like

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oh yeah, I did I justgive you a total like like total flashback
just then. But yeah, likeso, But I also had this situation
where you're frantically looking at your friendlike you're gonna give me the save me
signal, right because grow what's goingon over there and Thelma's not doing it

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and it's not happening. Yeah,I mean, because I've been in that
situation too, where you're like,well, and it happens usually because Thalma
is drunk, like drunk and istotally oblivious to what is happening. Yeah,
and Louise is completely and totally overit, like she's like, we're

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getting out of here, like it'stime to go. And then and that
one time as Louise to dance andis like super stiff and formal and like
it's very strange and not like nowthey're line dance saying the whole thing.
It's just but Louis's had enough.She tells them it's time to go.
We're going, yeah, and shegoes to the bathroom, like, you
know, let's go to the bathroombefore we leave. Because again they're on
a road trip. They're trying tomake time on the road, and Harlan

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takes Thalma outside for some error becauseagain now we're seeing that this shot a
wild turkey, all this like itwas too much, too hast probably no
food in her stomach, she's wasted, and we discover that Harlan is a
fucking rapist. Yeah, just youknow, because that's another reality that we've
all we know is out there.And I was really nervous when I was

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watching this movie, because again Ididn't know if I had seen like an
edited for TV. Now I willtell you I was watching it. I
watched mine on AMC and I dostill have cable, so I used the
AMC app and I had to watchit with ADS because I get it through
my cable provider, but I don'tpay for like the ams see premium.
And I noticed that like certain swearswere like silented out or like you know

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what I mean. So I waslike, I was like, am I
seeing any sort of edited version?Or is this like the real deal?
So I was very glad to seethat the would be rape scene in the
parking lot did not get ultra graphic? Yes? Is that the same experience
you had in the rental? Yes? Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah

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no it doesn't, like because Louisesteps up and it's a great it's a
great shot of just the click andthe gun like basically against his temple and
like, yes, back the fuckup? Yes, And I well,
and I think part of me it'slike the PTSD of where movies have taken

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it now that as soon as thatscene was starting, I was like,
oh oh, I'm like I don'tremember was that does this get real ugly?
Like I get it, I getwhat's going on here, you know.
So I was glad to see that, Like we get the point,
we get how scary it is,we get that like that's exactly what was
going to happen. There was noright. Louise was not mistaken. So

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she sees it happening, pulls up, she's got the gun in her purse.
Um, clicks it right against thetemple there and um, basically,
uh, she threatens him with agun. And she tells him when a
lady's crying like that, she isn'thaving any fun, right, Like that's
not what this is, dude.Um, and he says like and they

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they separate, but and they're aboutto walk away, and Harlan is of
course is mad and it is likeI should have fucked her, and the
Louise just as like, oh yeah, fuck this just she shoot him.
And Louise is so relatable here.Yeah, this is what scares me.

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This is what scares me about likehaving a gun because in a situation like
this, like if that was mykid, my friend, my like huh,
I'm Louise, I'm Louise yeah.I mean, you can't say he
didn't deserve it, but I meanyou've done murdered him. I mean yeah,
yeah, and that's and now they'relike real conundrum. They drive away

(32:28):
and you know, they're like shouldwe tell the police? And Selma's like
he was raping me, like hethat's what was going to happen. And
you know, Louise comes back andsays, one hundred people saw you dancing
cheek to cheek. No one's gonnabelieve it. Which isn't it sad that
that is still the case? ThisI looked at I said, I was

(32:51):
like, it's is still that's exactlywhat would happen today, Like we have
not come anywhere no on that front. Thirty years later, it's the same,
and well and I get it that, like, I mean you can

(33:13):
kind of see like it was justa very tragic kind of situation because Louise
did stop it before that actually happened, right, but then killed him anyway,
you know, and so would thatin the eyes of the law,
how would that have turned out?She's probably not wrong. It didn't look

(33:34):
good for them, like right,and it doesn't look good. Yeah,
it doesn't look good for her.Right, So they stopped for coffee,
and you know, at first,Louise is like shit, like almost blames
Thelma, like, if you weren'thaving so much fun, we wouldn't be
here right now, you know.And Thelma is, you know, she's
got a mark on her face,like she's disheveled. She's been crying,

(33:58):
like it's like she's shop and shefeels accused, and she tries calling home,
and we see the note on themicrowave, and of course, you
know, I don't think. Um, I can't remember if Darrell even answers
or not. But no, he'snot even home yet. He's not even
home yet. Um. And lateron we see we meet the cops,

(34:22):
so um, the one CoP's namehas played by Harvey Kitel. His name
is Hell. It took me foreverto figure out his character's name because I
just kept writing the cops, thecops in my notes. Oh, I
don't even know if I knew ifI knew his name. I just wrote
Harvey Kitel. I was like,hey, m so he is talking to

(34:50):
waitresses at the bar. The umit had a real funny name too.
I don't remember what it was called. Whatever that bar's name was, oh,
yeah, yeah, and I don'tremember. He's talking to the waiters
there and they mentioned that like thesetwo ladies were with him when they find
Um Harland's body in the parking lot, and she says, she's insistent that

(35:12):
the two ladies didn't do it,and she tells the cop she hopes Harland's
wife did it because he's a realasshole. Yeah. So, and she's
like, I'm not surprised that this, uh, this is how he ended
up. Yeah, Like like it'sgonna stop a lot more tragedy from happening,
right, um, yeah, stopstop a predator, you know.

(35:34):
Yeah. So Thelma and Louise areback on the road and Louise asks Hima
how much money do you have rightnow? And it drove me crazy that
she was like digging through a walletor purse and it's like they're in a
convertible and she's counting so carelessly.She says sixty one dollars and then a
twenty flies away and she's like,Alma, you're killing me. Well,

(35:55):
I mean, Thelma is having likea breakdown. She is she's just a
complete and total mess, and Louiseis she's like in crisis management mode,
and it's like, okay, wegot to figure it out. We're in
this, we're here now right right, Louise is in like triage mode,

(36:15):
right, and Thelma's still in traumamode you know. Yeah, she's still
yeah, she's still in shock andshe's going down. So they end up
stopping and they get a hotel roomand Louise decides she's going to call her
boyfriend, Jimmy, who is playedby Michael Madsen, who hasn't a very

(36:37):
very quaft hairdo. Yes, itis very Elvis like hmm um. It
almost made me wonder if his likejob was an Elvis impersonator, Like I
was like, what am I lookingat here? Um? It's very quift
and um. But I love himas that character, Like he's a perfect

(36:58):
I feel like he always plays thislike same, yes, but I'm okay
with it and this like but yeah, it's like you, I love it.
It's like when you're writing a scriptand you need this guy, this
is who you call you just yeah, you know what I mean. We
need a Michael, We need aMichael Manson type guy. Why don't we
just call him up? Right,Let's just put him in, you know,

(37:20):
Quaffe. It's the same thing withHarvey Kitel though, Yes, like
I feel like we need a HarveyKytel type. Just call Harvey Kitel absolutely,
and she says, I have sixtyseven hundred dollars in the bank,
can you wire me the money?But she won't tell him why. And
you know, at this point,to me, Louise is being very smart,

(37:45):
like she is like, Okay,this isn't like how it is now.
You know you couldn't run to theATM back in nineteen ninety one,
right, so how is she gonnaget like she she's she's thinking like fifteen
steps of like I need to run, like I just killed a man.
I gotta run, and I don'twant to take a bunch of people down

(38:05):
with me, right, and there'sno one after them yet, right,
So she's like, if I canjust get my hands in some money and
get to Mexico, I'm good togo, right. And so she tells
Jimmy though that she did something bad, like she did do something bad.
She needs the money, just don'task a lot of questions. I need
you to wire it, and shesays, he says, call him in
an hour, And you know,there's kind of this friction between them because

(38:34):
I think it's like he asks,Steve love me and she's like yeah,
Like it's just like there's no warmthbetween them. We know that Louise is
in crisis mode, but like Jimmy'snot surprised by the way she's acting either,
Right, so you can tell there'ssome kind of like there's a there's
a little bit of coldness or likea lack of warmth. They're like that

(38:58):
maybe already unresolved issues that. Yeah, So Thelma is by the pool now
in a bathing suit, and Louiseis like, okay, let's go.
We're going and her plan is toflee to Mexico and she asks, Thelma,
you up for it? You're comingwith because what am I do with
you now? Right? And youknow, it's it's interesting, like their

(39:22):
dynamic is really interesting here. Um, the police are plotting to put out
an APB and they are getting FBIinvolved because they're like, okay, they're
leaving the state. They're on thisroad trip, right, and they at
this point just want to question them, like we just all right put this
bullet out, like we need totalk to these two ladies because we got
a dead guy in a parking lot, and they're supposedly had spoken with this

(39:44):
guy. So at this point,like from the police standpoint, it's not
like they're running after murderers just yet. Luise, Louise knows exactly how valuable
that is, Like she's like,yeah, they don't. They're not coming
hard for us yet and all right, because like they don't know what happened.
They don't know if they're just witnessesyeah, to what happened, or

(40:08):
if they were involved or what.And so Jimmy tells Louise another hotel that
must have like a Western Union orsomething, like you're going to pick up
the money there. So thelma Umis gonna call Darryl and at the pay

(40:31):
phone, and he's only half payingattention, but right away he wants her
to come home. What are youdoing? She stands up to him,
you're my husband, not my father. They hang up the phone. Yeah.
She also goes into this mini martto buy some supplies and buys like
a zillion mini alcohol bus right,and the guy's like, it's like,

(40:55):
lady, why are you buying allthe little ones? She just lets those
little ones and she likes, I'dlike to pretend I'm really big. Yes,
she literally trips over Brad Pitt.Don't we all wish this would happen
to us? Yeah, you justwalk out outside of the seven to eleven

(41:15):
and trip over Brad Pitt? Right, they must be doing something right in
Arkansas, because damn yeah. Umhe asks for a ride and I love
that. Louise is like, no, all right, probably not a good
idea because is like, um,he's a student and needs a ride,

(41:37):
and no, absolutely not, we'renot. And I can feel Louise wanting
to be like, bitch, please, I know we got enough on my
plate right now? Are you fuckingserious? Right now? Is this a
serious question? Right? Let's addanother stranger to the mix. And so

(41:58):
Louise is so serious about about it, she pulls a Melissa Vanderlin and backs
that car up like she's Batman.Absolutely not. We're like, I'm making
a point now and I'm using thevehicle to do it. Okay, So
what is with now? Again?Since I've been rewatching these movies, I
am looking at background car. Ifeel like I know exactly what we're gonna

(42:19):
say. What is the Bodybuilder?Exactly? Background? Okay, So if
you haven't seen this movie in awhile. This is not a major part
of the movie, but I promiseyou that if you watch this on your
flat screen TV that is X amountof inches and you are watching and you're
like, is that a motherfucking bodybuilderstanding in a gas station parking lot in

(42:44):
a dust cloud deadlifting a giant andwhat is happening? Like I I haven't
exactly written down. I was like, there's some dude just lifting weights in
the parking lot of the speedway orwhat I want to tak Yes, I
mean, and I mean this andhe's huge, sort of like sweaty or

(43:05):
oiled, so that all of thedust clouds around him can then stick to
his body like I was, like, everything else stick. I'm not understanding
exactly what the choice, but maybethis is part of what makes it feel
like a Western like this just kindof crazy. It's the wild, wild
background characters, like there's it's weirdcharacters everywhere. Yes, So Felma asks

(43:30):
how long till we get to Mexico? And this is when Louise knows that
Selma's all in, like she's she'scoming with like they're running together. I
love these little interactions that are justgoing to keep going through the movie where
Louise never just assumes, well,you have to go down because I'm going
down right, like she is atrue friend. And there's these little interactions

(43:54):
throughout the whole movie that are likethis where yeah, you know, Louis
had kind of like was waiting toget an agreement from Thelma, like I'm
not going to drag you with meto flee the country, but if you
want, you know, like Ineed to make a choice, and I
neither need to dump you off somewhereor something, but I need a head

(44:15):
start, you know kind of thing. So I love this that, you
know, there's this kind of sweetway that Alma's like, so how long
until we get there? Like I'mI'm in, We're in um And so
at this point Thalma lightens the moodby talking about Brad Pitt's but I wrote

(44:36):
down a quote ubun quote here Darryldoesn't have a cute but her husband m
you could back a car in theshadow of his ass, Like that is
some colorful language, like you couldback card the shadow of his ass.

(45:00):
Damn girl, Well just paint mea picture. Yeah, No, I
loved that. I had to writethat one down. I was like,
I'm pausing it. That was agem. Um. So they're trying to
find basically you know again pre GPSand all that. Louise is throwing maps
at Thelma and is like, findus all these back roads to Mexico and

(45:21):
whatever you do, don't we're notgoing through Texas. And this is a
plot point later. Um. Thelma'slike, you want to go from Oklahoma
City to Mexico, but not gothrough Technas, right, And Louis does
want to talk about it, andshe doesn't want anything to do with Texas.
And Thelma knows like something went down, like something's wrong here that she's
so a verse to Texas. UMand the police have come across Louise's name

(45:47):
and are looking for her, youknow, like now they know that the
names of the two ladies from therestaurant, like, go, okay,
we found that right because of alike credit card something credit card slip or
something something like that. Yes,they figured out that, Yeah, she
was in some kind of a computersearch. UM and the detectives at Darryl's
house and UM asking about this,like, hey, there were some witnesses

(46:14):
that saw the car leave. Ohit was called the Silver Bullet. That
was the name of the bar leavethe Silver Bullet. And Darryl's reaction is
so goofy. He's so like flulike well like and he reminded me of
Bill and Tad. Like I waslike, what is going on here,
you buffoon? It's like it's reallybonkers. Um. Yeah, But the

(46:38):
best line in this entire scene iswhen Daryl is freaking out and all this
and the detective is like, I'msorry, you're standing in your pizza,
because he like knocked his takeout pizzaonto the floor and he's literally standing in
the box of it. And inthe um the interviews that I was watching

(47:01):
today on YouTube, they said thatHarvey Keitel and Christopher McDonald that was actually
ad libbed that like he accidentally wasin the pizza and then like Harvey Keitel
was like, sorry, you're standingin your pizza, and then like they
kept it, you know, andI was like that. I love stuff
like that. Like it's so apparentlyRidley Scott like that was a big part

(47:25):
of kind of his directing in this, Like they had this great way of
explaining that in these interviews, youknow, like so originally Ridley Scott was
going to produce the movie. Hewasn't going to direct it, and he
was out shopping for directors, sohe took the script. He liked it.
He thought, this movie needs toget made. It's getting fast tracked,

(47:46):
the studios good to go, Like, we need a director. So
he's going to all these directors andsaying, here's what it is. These
two women in a car. It'skind of like a western, like a
Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid typeof situation, and nobody wants it.
And in all these meetings he's havingwith these other directors, he's figuring out
how to sell it, until finallysomebody along the way says to him,

(48:08):
you should make this movie. Andso then he's like, all right,
well then I'm gonna make this movie. Because then by the time he had
sold it enough times he was like, no, I get what it's supposed
to be. Fine, I'm gonnado it. So yeah. The cool
thing is is that, like theinterviews with Gina Davis and Susan Surandon,
especially Susan Surandon, because Susan Surandonwas a very established actress at this time.

(48:31):
You know, she spoke really eloquentlyto Ridley Scott's confidence as a director,
Like she would say that, youknow, it's usually your directors that
are really confident in themselves that willactually listen when you like point something out
or ask a question. It's theones that aren't so confident that as soon

(48:52):
as you start suggesting something or whatever, they're like, no, no,
don't change it, like because likethey don't know what they're doing, so
they want to it the way itis, and you know that kind of
thing. And she said, soRidley Scott was like super open to that
during all this, so things likethese little ad libs or like even things
about like well why would the characterdo that? What about let's do this?
Like he took some of those thingsfrom the actors, and I think

(49:15):
that that's a really cool um coolstories to hear after the fact. Yeah,
Like in all of these twenty fiveyear anniversary like YouTube clips that I
saw, it was really cool tohear them tell the stories of that.
It was. It was really neat. Um. So basically, Daryl,
you know, is truly something andin the car Louise's assessment of Daryl is

(49:38):
perfect. It is so hard whena friend you love has an asshole partner,
because I think she says that toBrad Pitt, like, you know,
like I love Thelma, Yeah,but her husband is a piece of
dirt, Like it's it's not cool, And that is so true, you
know, it's it's it is sohard when you have a friend that is

(50:01):
with someone that you can see thetoxicity. You can see that it's not
good for either of them. Youcan see that that you know that she
would deserve so much better. Butthere's nothing you can really do about that,
you know, right, you can't, you can't. You can think
it, but you can't necessarily,right, you can lead a horse to

(50:25):
water, but you can't make himdrink. Seems apt for this type of
movie, but like she's not goingto understand that until she comes to that
realization herself, which she started,right, And well, that's what's so
satisfying about this is like as timegoes by, the growth in Thelma's character

(50:45):
is so satisfying. Yeah oh yeah, um. And this is where she
reveals that she started or she gotmarried at eighteen, right after high school,
to Darryl, and she had beendating him for four years, so
that means she dated him at thebeginning of high school, she had only
ever been with him, and soit gives us a little more insight,

(51:07):
and I feel like, you know, it does give the audience a much
needed sympathy point for Thelma. Yes, you know, like we needed to
hear something like that about why isshe the way she is? Right,
it gives you more insight into whyshe almost seems a little stunted, like

(51:37):
in relationship or emotionally or because ifthat's the only relationship you had was when
you were fourteen and then you justcontinued on that, it's really hard to
kind of grow. I think that'sa great way to put it. It's
like stunted in a lot of ways, like she just wasn't able to thrive,

(51:57):
you know, and you can seethat in all her interactions. And
then like I've actually seen this too, Like there's been people in my life
where it's almost like they never hadtheir early twenties, like they kind of
like Thelma, like try to skipthat, and then later on when they
had sort of a freeing moment,it's a lot like Thelma where it's like,

(52:22):
well now everyone else is older andwe're all like what are you doing?
But you never had your twenties,like you didn't have that, you
know, Like I don't know ifI'm explaining that right, but you know
what I mean, Like it's thatkind of I've run into people who that
is the case, and so youkind of can look back and see sort
of the value of you know,being like I would see myself encouraging Audrey

(52:45):
to like, you know, youneed to meet a lot of people.
And I'm not saying like, youknow, dating even wise, but just
have a lot of different friend groupsor have experiences, because this is the
time to have them so that youcan thrive and figure out who you are,
you know, a little bit um. So Brad Pitt points out that
there's a cop ahead and they pulloff on an exit, and this is

(53:07):
where I started to notice this mustbe the Ridley Scott like where he's really
used to doing like blockbuster huge movieswith giant budgets, because there's like all
of these really cool shots where it'slike they're driving past a weird oil refinery
with all these machines moving, andit's like you didn't really have to do

(53:28):
that, but like it's very yeahcool looking, like it does look like
cinematic it's very cinematic and it's veryum. It gives it that wild West
feel like where are they? Whereare you? It's like in the kind
of in the middle of nowhere,slightly dangerous because it's like there's not a
lot of people around the machinery andall that, even and even though they

(53:52):
are driving, it's like there's allthese expanses in which there's nothing around,
you know which, And it's veryapparent in a lot of these like cinematic
shots. And the reason I bringit up is I don't normally notice shit
like that, but I was noticingthat in this movie. Like I was
like, huh, they didn't reallyhave to drive past this crazy machinery,

(54:12):
but it's very cool looking, likeespecially when we see that like blue green
boat convertible, you know, goingacross this. Well. I also think
it lends it to a little bitlike it breaks it up, because I
mean, if you're just driving inthis giant expanse, if that's all you
saw was just this car, youdon't have a sense of, like them

(54:36):
moving right, what's changed? BecauseI mean because a landscape in like the
Southwest, wherever there are, itall kind of looks the same so it's
like you when we drove from Chicagoto New Orleans and had to drive through
Arkansas and you know, I meanafter you're starting to go through Illinois,

(54:59):
Indiana are kinsaw, Like it hasall looked exactly the same, right,
So it is cool the way theyshot this to make it like it's almost
like mad Max, like you know, like it's like the desert and this
other weird world that like I don'tdrive past that every day. It was
really cool to kind of seem.And so Louise goes in to pick up

(55:20):
the money order and they don't haveit in her name, and she's like,
what about a code name? TryPeaches. And that's when Jimmy's there
and he's like, did somebody saypeaches kind of thing? Yeah? And
so I did think that this showsThis showed me that, like, maybe
Jimmy hasn't shown his full hand toLouise, but this is his way of

(55:45):
showing he really cares and really lovesher. And it's unfortunate because we know
as the audience why Louise can't entirelylean into that, because it's like she
doesn't want to make him an accessory, doesn't want to you know. So
it's actually, you know, prettysweet. So Jimmy is there to give

(56:06):
her the money, and he givesit to her and she's basically like,
you know, I can't tell youmore. And she's back at the car.
She's saying, all right, it'stime to say goodbye to JD.
Like, brad Pitt's gotta go.Okay, Jimmy's here. We're gonna get
a hotel room. I need todeal with Jimmy and get rid of him,
right, get rid of your littlefriend. We're all done with that,

(56:28):
okay. And he's walking away.Brad Pitt's walking away like how Thelma's
like, that's him going. Ilove to watch him go, just watching.
Yeah, I mean at this pointI was like, oh man,
oh Thelma, it's pretty funny.So Thelma is supposed to guard the money.

(56:49):
So they've gotten two hotel rooms.Thelma is supposed to be in there.
Just take a shower, relax,go to bed. You have the
money in your room in the nightstand. I'm going to deal with Jimmy.
So Louise is in the room withJimmy and they're trying to work out their
relationship things. And then it's likeso many things are happening here. Um,
Louise is not going to tell Jimmyanything. She's Jimmy's pissed, right,

(57:14):
he gets very violent does He's literallyflipping tables and but then decides he's
going to give her a ring?What to her? Even to Louise feels
like out of nowhere, right,so romantic right this proposal, like he
whips it out right. And Idid write I'm in the margins here because
this is the scene where switching backand forth from Michael Madsen and Brad Pitt

(57:42):
the men's quaft hair situation, becauseBrad Pitt's got to blow out of all
blowouts. Oh yeah, I meanit is flipped right in the back,
It is over the side part likeit is laying on the cheek exactly right.
It is voluminous though it is supposedto have underneath the cowboy had all
day. I call on that.It is the perfect blowout. And then

(58:06):
um, Michael Madsen's hair, youcan almost see where they had to use
a curling iron to like achieve someheight and lift and get it. Yeah
there, like because he has Elvis'shair, it is like but I mean
they just like set it on hishead, yes, but it doesn't look
like it styled it separately. Andthen just it's very blocked. It hard,

(58:30):
it's got to be full of hairspray. And so it was just
in this scene when they kept goingback and forth from the two rooms,
I was like, the men's hairsituation is intense. Like those whoever was
doing hair that day, they earnedtheir paycheck that day. My goods um
and so JD has appeared back atThlma's room, and is you know,

(58:55):
charming his way in there, becausethere's clearly been some flouration and chemistry between
them, and it's raining out andhe doesn't have well that's the other thing.
Not only has his quaft hair beenunderneath a freaking cowboy hat, it
was rained all over, but yetsomehow it comes out in a perfect Brad
Pitt blowout. I mean so,I mean, if you open that door,

(59:17):
I mean, yes, it's happening. It's happening. You open that
door, it's happening. It's goingdown for real, like there's there's no
there's no PG version of this.No, if you opened that door,
you're going straight to our Yeah,but we're not. No, no,
sorry, but no, um soand they're playing this hand slap game.

(59:44):
And this was another funny thing.I watched an interview with Brad pitt Um
who talked about this and that initiallyall the script really said was that j
D was supposed to like take thering off of her finger, like that
symbolism of like let's forget about that. But it was like kind of slow
and boring, and they it waslike, you know, how do we

(01:00:07):
And it was like they came upwith this goofy hand slap game and this
whole like flirtation before, right,yeah, is like it's cute, like
it's which I think it matches likeher magic the personnel a little bit.
Yeah, it matches like, Okay, you know, here's this kid who's

(01:00:31):
in his twenty maybe it's like twenty, he's going to college, right,
sure, let's call him twenty.Sure, let's go. Yeah. And
again she has been she stunted,and she still hasn't had any of that
kind of experience. She's never flirtedwith anybody, so it kind of matches
her. What I thought so interestingthat about these two is I understand from

(01:00:59):
the get go we are supposed tohate Daryl, like obviously, but the
way that that j D's and Thelma'scharacter both have that kind of innocence and
even though you know, we cometo find out they're not, like he's
not. But you know, theway this plays out doesn't feel dirty.

(01:01:22):
I don't know how else to saythat, Like it like it feels like,
yeah, Thelma kind of needs tohave this experience. And I have
never wanted to be like real comfortablewith like cheating or something like that in
the plotline. Like it's not likeI'm like, it's yeah, you should,
you know, you you have toreally work the storyline um to feel

(01:01:44):
justified and like the character should absolutelydo that. And you know, I'm
blah blah blah, but well,she's already made this decision that she's like
not going home. She's not she'snot going home, right, So that
helped. Like, and obviously Darrylthere's no love lost there. None of
us think he's anything worth you know, look worth not breaking a heart over.

(01:02:05):
But it's just there's still something aboutthis interaction. And I give a
lot of credit to like Brad Pittand Gina Davis, and like just the
way the whole thing kind of playsout, it just never felt anything but
like sort of sweet. You know, it wasn't like it wasn't smarmy or
sleezy or and it could very wellhave absolutely absolutely it could have betten Um,

(01:02:31):
so I do really like that.And um, basically through all of
this flirtation and all that we do, um, Thelma does start to ask
some questions, so we'll give hersome credit with that, and discovers that
Jand is on parole. Yeah,I don't think he's uh, he's not

(01:02:53):
exactly the college student he portrayed himselfto be, right, Like, I
do you think that this whole hisexplanation and his like he's I love he's
done properly. Armed robbery doesn't haveto be a totally unpleasant experience. I
know I wrote that down too.I was like, because she goes he
re enacts the robbery with the hairdryer, like he's holding people at gunpoint,

(01:03:15):
and she's like, well, itjust sounds like you were a real
gentleman, and he was like,yeah, I mean I really was.
It's just this is what I didit. You know, I didn't hurt
anybody or shoot anybody. I juststole some money. And so he says
he's you know, robbed a fewplaces stores, whatever, and you know,

(01:03:35):
so they do it. Yeah,well again, I mean, listen,
a rainy brad Pitt comes to thedoor and you open it. It's
happening. It's happening. There's nothere's no sending him home. And after
that no, um So Jimmy andLouise are all lovey dovey that and the
next morning like they're having breakfast,you know, and I love when she

(01:04:01):
says, did you take a pill? To say all the right stuff?
Because if I didn't feel that inmy bones, like you know, and
all of a sudden, it's likeyour significant other is like being really on
point all of a sudden, andyou're kind of like, what happened here?
Huh? Should I be suspicious ofthis moment? Right? What's happening

(01:04:24):
next? Should I watch for ananvil to drop in and smashing the crowd?
Like, um, I just putlord? I wish. So they
say goodbye. He gives her thering and tells her to keep it anyway,
and their partying is bittersweet, youknow, and you do feel sort
of bad because, you know,even though Jimmy got a little heated,

(01:04:45):
it was like they clearly there's there'slove there and caring. Yeah, so
Selma shows up for breakfast and isgiddy as a schoolgirl, talking about her
trist last night and pointing out allthe hikies on her neck. She's just
a wee bit crazy. I lovedthis. I loved everything about it.

(01:05:09):
Her insane hair, her whole demeanor. I was like, this is okay,
so this is this is she gotit rocked right out of her,
Like this is also this is girlfriendshit, Like this is exactly how this
kind of thing would go down,Like you know what happened. Yes,
it's like the super excited and thenthe fact that like Louise's reaction is like,

(01:05:32):
well, I'm so glad you gotlaid properly. That's that's how it
should be, you know. AndI just this whole thing, I don't
know, it's crazy as it was. It just I loved it. I
loved it. I thought I waslike, yep, this this is girlfriend
shit. This is what we dowhen we're road trips. Now, I'm
not saying when we go on roadtrips forgetting about our home sleeping with Brad

(01:05:53):
Pitt, that doesn't happen. Youdon't In fact, a trip on bread
pit outside of seven eleven and handsup in your hotel room. No,
but you do have these sweet giddymoments like this, that's the amazing thing.
Let's just all be very clear there, Andrey and I do not do
that on a road trip. Wedon't know, never, not even cross
our minds. Right. So,um, the basically, this is when

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Louise figures that, wait a minute, so JD spent the night. He's
in there showering. He's in theroom alone with the money. Now she
doesn't even know that he's been hon parole for armed robbery. She's just
like, oh shit, you leftthe money in the room with that stranger
hitchhiker kid. And so of coursethey go in there. Jad's gone,

(01:06:42):
the money's gone. Oh so,And this is when Louise cracks like she
stress pushed her, This pushed herover, pushed her over the edge because
she had had a plan. Thiswas her plan. This is the plan
everything as long as we follow theplan, basically, and then somebody went
and set fire to the plan,like look went done and stole her plan

(01:07:06):
and pieced out and now she doesn'tknow what to do. Yes, poor
Louise is like, yeah, Ireally felt for her in this moment because
it's like she was keeping it together, keeping it together, she's the one.
And then it's like, oh mygod, you just destroyed this.
I don't know what to do now, Like now I don't know what to

(01:07:26):
do so right because still now atthis point, even though Thelma's with her,
it's still all on Louise. She'slike, I'm I'm going to go
down for this, like this iswell she says, like I shot him,
like it's yeah, it's me andyeah it's it's bad. So like

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the cops are still back at Darryl'shouse and they are going to monitor the
phones because now the cops are like, okay, you know, why can't
we find these women? And likeit's starting to look a lot more suspicious.
Um if so the other cup whosename is Max, But I don't

(01:08:10):
think we ever really know that he'sthe FBI guy. Oh yeah, all
I can think about the entire time, in every scene that he's in is
that he is ned Ryerson in GroundhogDay. Yeah, nd ned Ryerson ned
the head needle nose head. Remember, I'm like, oh, it's all
I am thinking every scene that he'sin I get because he looks exactly the

(01:08:33):
same. No, yeah, likethere's nothing yeah, And so I was
like, oh my god, toofunny. Um his name is Steven Tobolowski.
Will give him some some shout outthere, but um, he's ned
Ryerson. Let's get real. It'slike it's ned Ryerson. So um,
I love though. His advice toDarryl is, you know, so when

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she calls, you need to likesound like you're happy to hear from her,
like maybe you miss her. Womenlove that shit. And they just
have a real cackle like a bunchof assholes. I was just like,
wow on a bunch of real assholes. Yep. So back on the road
now they're parked at like a roadsidemarket, you know, convenience store,

(01:09:20):
Louise. This is a very strangescene where Louise realizes she looks like shit,
she's been crying. She gets tolook at herself in the mirror because
she sees this creepy old couple juststaring at her. Yeah, and I
was like, lord Jesus, Iwould be thinking I would be the victim

(01:09:40):
of a crime, Like why arethese old couples staring at me? Something's
about to go down. Turns outthat something that's about to go down is
Thalma just robbed the convenience store.She keeps running out screaming drive drive,
drive, get out of there.She used JD's entire script of his jub
It's amazing, and it was allcaught on the security cameras at the store.

(01:10:03):
Of course. I mean she's nothiding her face like she's just you
know, she's got sunglasses on andall her glory and tells them to throw
in a couple of bottles of wildturkey too, so I mean no mistaking
her at all. Back in thecar, they are sort of now on

(01:10:24):
a slap happy high, like AlmaLouise are like what the fuck just happened,
because it's almost like, hey man, I got us our money.
We're good, We're back on track. We're good. Yeah. And now
I committed a crime too, rightnow, so now we're really in it
together. I joined you, Sowe're all good. It's fine, We're
all good. Yeah. And thisis where they encounter this gross truck driver.

(01:10:46):
So there's like a semi truck driverthat is very lewd and making a
lot of gestures at him and hasthose tire flaps with like the naked lady
and Thelma and Louise are just likeyou, and they pass them up and
he's just foul, and the policeend up being back at home to meet

(01:11:08):
up with Jimmy now that Jimmy madeit back home, and basically we are
starting to get the sense that,like the police are kind of putting things
together, like these girls are onthe run so right, like especially especially
I think, you know, especiallywhen you're committing a robbery. Yes,
like obviously, like they're they're tiedto this dead body in the Silver Bullet

(01:11:31):
parking lot in a major way,and so um Thumbel and Louise stop again
to like wash up because it's likethey're hot and sweaty. It's the desert,
and I am just trying to figureout where the fuck they are.
They're like at a gas station witha lot of outdoor sinks. I don't
know what's happening. It's like they'rethey're literally washing up outside, dipping a

(01:11:55):
rag like like a random trough.Yeah. Like I was like, I
don't know why I'm looking at here, but it's very strange. Um,
and I didn't totally understand. Andmaybe it was because I was getting things
broken up by ads or whatever.But like I didn't totally understand why Louise
gives that random old man all herjewelry. I I was like, is

(01:12:20):
she trading it for like a car? Like what? But none of that
changed, Like I couldn't figure outwhat was she paying that, But then
they just got a bunch of money. She didn't need to pay for gas
that way. I don't know,you know, it could be just maybe
um, it could be like anod to maybe that she sees the writing

(01:12:44):
on the wall. That's kind ofwhat I was, Yeah, Like,
you know, it's like, Imean, we've all had the grandparent who
every time you go to their housegives you shit because I I might be
dead the next time I see you. I mean my grandmother. My grandmother
was doing that thirty years before shedied. So you know, I mean

(01:13:09):
it could be she's she knows thepath that they're taking, and it could
be. Yeah, I mean Ifeel like that's a logical conclusion. But
I did feel like, and againmaybe it's because we're watching the movie and
like taking notes. I was like, did I miss something? I felt
a little confused by what I did. I don't think there was anything like

(01:13:30):
that as far as like, butthat's the only thing I can think of,
like that she is giving away herstuff, like I don't need this
anymore. Yeah, what am Igoing to do with this jewelry? Right?
Give it to the old man?So the police have JD now,
and JD's trying to play at KACKIwith the police. And I love when

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ned Ryerson is asked to at theroom and it's just Harvey Kitel and he
comes around to the other side ofthe table and picks that hat right off
of Brad Pitt's head and just startssmacking him with it over the head,
like you dumb child. Do youthink they would have committed armed robbery if
you didn't take all their money?This is your fault, the poor ladies,

(01:14:20):
you know. And he just workshim into this, like listen,
you a little punk, yeah,because I mean, and I really like
that about Harvey Kitel's like he's notapproaching it like these are some dangerous women.
He's approaching it as these are someladies who are in some serious effed

(01:14:41):
up shit like that they are justtrying to figure their way out and they're
just making things worse, and nowyou just helped them right along and made
it. You're digging their graves basicallybecause now they've committed two felonies, right
exactly, and so um, youknow, I do love this. So

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they're taking Jad out of the likeinterrogation room, and Darrell's out there in
the hallway, and Jad just hasto get a little dig in on Daryl,
like I like your wife. Itwas a solid burn. It was
really good. So for some reason, and this is this is another thing
that I was like, Okay,Susan Surandon made a comment in an interview

(01:15:26):
that it now made sense to meat this point in the movie, because
when I was watching the movie,I actually wrote my notes. For some
reason, Louise really wants Thelma tocall Darryl, and I was kind of
like, why why does she?I know that in a way, Louise
is saying she's going to be ableto figure out how much the police are
close to catching them, but itseems like an unnecessary risk. And yeah,

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Susan Surrandon said something that was reallysmart in the interviews that I was
watching. She said that when shetalked to Ridley Scott, she said,
well, what's the time frame thatthis is happening in, because I think
the way these two are going toact if this is over a span of
like seven days that they're overtired,they're not thinking straight. Everything seems frantic.

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That's one thing. But if it'slike it's supposed to be weeks and
weeks and weeks have gone by andthey have had time to think about it,
then they would act kind of adifferent way. So I was like,
well, maybe that's what's going onhere, is that Louise's logic is
a little faulty, Like why areyou telling Thalma to call her husband just
so that you can figure out ifthe cops know where you are? When

(01:16:36):
that just seems like an unnecessary risk, right right? Yeah? I mean
it. I thought it was kindof weird too, like that she would
want like who cares? And unlessmaybe the other thing there could have been
some things cut out. I don'tknow, but maybe there was like the
questioning of whether they'll be able toget across the border, because like if

(01:17:00):
they are being put out as likeoh yeah, like if they know where
they're going. I think that's whatit was, Like She's trying to figure
out if they know maybe like wherethey're headed. Yeah, and they were
trying to figure out like, well, are the police like sitting at Thelma's
house and like trying to tap thephones and so right away, as soon

(01:17:24):
as Thelma calls Daryl, he sayshello and she hangs up immediately they're there,
I know, because he would neverbe that nice as just saying hello.
Absolutely that I laughed out loud ifI did think they're like yeah,
I was like, that's great,you know. Boom. Louise calls backs
and insists to talk to the police, like we know they're there, Daryl,

(01:17:45):
stop, like just put me onthe phone with whatever's in charge.
And that's when they do say you'renot going to make it to Mexico.
Yeah, And Louise realizes that Thelmatold j D and that they must have
JD. And so now Louise ishitting yet another And this is where again

(01:18:06):
like we're still as an audience reallyfrustrated with Thelma, Like she's had some
endearing qualities, but she is frustrating, like she keeps right because she's a
speking everything worse. Yeah, shefeels like making it more difficult for Louise
and um, yeah, and Ilove. Louise is like, you gotta

(01:18:26):
stop talking to people. You needto shut up. Yeah, stop talking
at people. We're fugitives now weneed to start behaving like it. And
it's like again Louise has to havethis like mom moment with Thelma of like,
girl, if you're going hardcore,you just held up a store,
right, you gotta stop this nonsenseand like, you know, be a

(01:18:48):
little more slick. So they drivethrough the night and they run across that
gross truck driver again. He Ijust had to write down the line,
I'm your storm trooper of love iswhat he yells out the window. What
them? I mean, that's that'ssomething. He is just gross. He's

(01:19:09):
so gross. And in the car, Thelma literally starts to crack up about
Harlan, the guy they killed,or that Louise killed. Yeah, she's
just laughing uncontrollably that Harlan never sawthat coming, and Louise is like,
what the fuck, like I don'twant to talk about it, like I

(01:19:30):
don't like so because finally Thelma says, it happened to you, didn't it,
meaning you were raped ones that's whyyou pulled that trigger. Well,
and that's why you don't want togo to Texas, right and right,
like there's this this is why youwent to that, Like it's like that

(01:19:50):
trauma trigger right, like that youwent from I stopped it too, I
pulled the trigger and that wasn't likebecause Thelma never says it, but like
Louise didn't have to kill him,right, you know, she stopped it
from happening, So it is.It's tough, and I wrote my notes,

(01:20:11):
just like Louise is adamant that shedoesn't want to talk about what happened
in Texas. And the two ofthem play this scene perfectly, like the
way Thelma is trying to ask formore information and the way Louise is like
I can't and like Thelma gets it. Like that just the whole way they
play this scene, yeah, isreally perfect and it helps us see why

(01:20:38):
they're friends. And the police endup pulling we get another squad car.
We're in the middle of the mountains, right and like they're getting cars.
There's no cars and miles and miles. So they pull over and this cop
is asking for license, asking forall this. You know, is this

(01:20:59):
your car? Come on, getout of the car, He tells Louise
to come get in the squad carwith him in the front seat. He's
going to run her license and allthat. And you know, she was
going one hundred and ten so shewas, you know, speeding, and
she's in that squad car with thecop and I just wrote, Thelma ain't
plan No. I mean, sheshe all of a sudden put on her

(01:21:24):
big girl bridges. But Thelma hasbasically become a crime lord. She has
just decided. I was like,she's really come into her own. I
mean, apparently a life of crimeis very becoming on her. Belma walks
up to this police car, hasthat gun at the policeman's temple and is
like, I am real sorry,but this is not going to happen today

(01:21:46):
and tell that yeah, yeah,you take his gun. And I love
that. Susan Srandon is looking ather like in shock, like yeah,
what are you doing? And she'slike, Louise, reach over there and
take his gun right off of hisof his left pocket there, like take
it, and so Louise does it, and then she's like, and now

(01:22:11):
shoot his radio, yeah right,the police radio. Oh. Like suddenly
Louise is the one that's like,I don't have a plan. Alma's taking
over. This is where we finallyget to love Thelma. I feel like
he's the audience. This is whenwe're like, oh, okay, this

(01:22:32):
is when I think, because thatthat conversation with Louise in the car about
this happened to you too, likeflipped a switch, Like you shouldn't be
taking care of me. I shouldn'tbe taking care of you too. Yeah,

(01:22:55):
and like I love when um theytell him. They tell the cop
to get in the trunk, andthey take like the six pack of beer.
They take his belt for the extraammo, I mean they are not
again, they are not here toplay at this point, they take his
sunglasses the whole nine yards and Thelmasays, he starts crying, I have

(01:23:15):
a wife and kid because you're gonnalock me in a trunk in the middle
of the desert. Right, There'smore ways than one how this plays out
like I made like dive from aroast to death inside of a metal oven
that is the trunk of this car. And I have even if he gets
out, he has no radio toyou know, get some help. And

(01:23:36):
so she says, he's he's Ihave a wife and kids and he goes,
She goes, oh yeah, willyou be real sweet to your wife,
because if you're not, my husbandwasn't sweet to me, and look
how I turned out. I couldnot love Thelma more than in this entire
exchange. She is she does notbelieve I've got a real knack for this,

(01:23:57):
this life of crime. I neverI wrote that down to you.
I feel like I got a realnag for this ship like she's just you
know, and I do love.After this, and they get in the
car and Thelma, Thelma points outto Louise, our lives would have been

(01:24:18):
ruined if you didn't do what youdid. If he would have gone through
with it and raped me, mylife would have been ruined because just as
you said, he wouldn't have Noone would have believed me because I was
all over that guy inside the bar. Like my life would have been ruined.
So whether it's ruined now because I'mrobbing stores and holding a cop at

(01:24:41):
gunpoint, it was gonna be ruinedregardless. Like that's why, Like like
I like that it is Thelma takingcare of Louise, and like I'm not
completely a dingbat, like I'm tryingto tell you that, like I understand
my life was going to be ruinedeither way, you know, like I'm

(01:25:02):
I'm in this with you. It'sokay, You're not inflicting this on me,
And I like that. I thinkthat that's she says, he was
hurting me and I'm not sorry.He's dead. Yeah, And I think
that that is a really cool momentthat they have after this whole situation,

(01:25:23):
because I think Louise has been showingthat she's sort of carrying like a little
bit of guilt of like I'm oh, yeah, dragging Thelma into the like
I murdered the guy, and nowI'm dragging this girl along with my friend
along with me, right, andyes she's a good friend. But I
mean, is that really a goodreason to write? Like well, like

(01:25:44):
like she said, like I wouldfeel like I'd be ruining that person's life.
I'm ruining your life because of awrong decision that I made, like
a poor decision now even though itwas helping you, Like I pulled a
trigger, I killed somebody. Imade a bad choice in that moment,
and now you're gonna have to payfor it with me, because I'm you

(01:26:04):
know, I mean, it's it'suh, I'm sure that that guilt would
would be carried throughout this hole orthe other. And so at this point,
like Louise does decide to call thepolice back again and again I don't

(01:26:25):
totally understand why she keeps trying tohave exchanges with them. Um, they
and they get the tap because shestays on the phone too long. So
it's like, I don't know ifLouise kind of wants to get caught or
didn't they didn't she call to likebasically tell them, Hey, the cop
is in the trunk of the caron the highway. I don't know,

(01:26:46):
maybe because I thought that she like, could she have gone to a pay
phone and reported that anonymously, likethere's a cop in the trunk of his
car on this road? She riskedgetting the one again. I don't think
at this point they're running on adrenaline, like no sleep, stress and tiny

(01:27:09):
bottles of wild turkey. Right,So, um, the cop does seem
you know, howry Kitel's character.As much as he has made some like
asshole comments around the husband, therehas been the consistent vein that he does
seem to care, like these aren'thardened criminals. We don't want this to

(01:27:30):
escalate like we need to get themto come in, like we're trying to
just get them to come in ontheir own, like we don't need to
cause a big because he feels likethe FBI guy is like ready to go
in, guns ablazing. Yeah,it reminds me of um, you know
how he said in Hackers, howlike these kids are fucking computer hacking and

(01:27:54):
like literally the SWAT team comes inwith guns drawn, like calm down,
okay, um, but that's whatned Ryerson it seems to want. And
Harvey Cat tells kind of like youknow, what the heck. So Thelma
does say to Louise, you know, I know that I can't go back

(01:28:15):
like I'm not and we're not goingback home. He said on the phone
that we got to come back,come in debt or alive. So now
they have this conversation that's kind oflike, oh, we are going full
on crime lord, like right,they're coming after us, like for murder.
This is it's bad. Yeah,like they know everything. Yeah,

(01:28:40):
it's that this is not going tobe a slap on the wrist. This
is bad. So it's almost likethey have this sort of cowboy moment of
like, well, we're gonna youknow, uh, the laws out to
get us like kind of thing.And you know we're we're wanted dead or

(01:29:01):
alive, right, which is justcrazy. Um. And in this moment,
you know, Thelma is having this. She keeps saying like, I
feel wide awake. I feel moreawake than I've ever felt. And it
is like something has sort of clickedin her. And I think it's empowerment.
I think so. I think it'sthis. She's no longer the victim

(01:29:24):
any like, she's she is makingher own decisions now, and not just
because I mean it's terrible path thatthis is that they're on. She's picking
the path so right, she's gettinglike empowered. They're still hoping to get
to Mexico, and they're kind oflike talking about, you know, what
it's going to be like when they'rethere on the beach, drinking a margarita

(01:29:45):
kind of thing. And the damntruck driver again, this smarmy ass,
nasty, gross truck driver. Well, they get him to follow them off
and exit and they all pass.They're like, all right, let's go,
come on. I did write whatis happening here? I mean they're

(01:30:09):
trying to put him in his place, and they're like telling him he's rude,
all of these lewd gestures he's makingare unacceptable. He should apologize.
I mean, no surprise he doesn'tagree, right. I just wrote they

(01:30:30):
school him on his disgusting behavior.And I just with this truck driver,
I wrote my notes, what theheck is this guy? He reminds me
of Buffalo Bill from Silence of theLambs crossed with Barney from The Simpsons,
Like he's just, oh, youknow what I'm saying. It's like he's
like, oh, you know,he's got this weird inflection of his voice,

(01:30:55):
like he's almost trying to make funof himself. But then he's such
a weird buffoon like Barney from theSimpsons. I just I was like,
what am I seeing here? Thisis a very strange character, isn't He
dressed in like a like Hawaiian brightgot like a Hawaiian shirt and kind of

(01:31:15):
like those um oakly type like mirrorglasses, reflective reflective colorful glasses. It
just it was bizarre. I mean, he's definitely a real character. And
I think that this interaction with thistruck driver is where people can sometimes,
in my opinion, jump the gunthat this is like a man hating movie

(01:31:39):
and that's not what I think isgoing out here. But I can see
how that leap gets made, especiallywith this scene, because this guy is
so ridiculous. I'm sorry, butevery woman has experienced what they have experienced
and wanted to blow up that person. Struck absolutely. I mean, they

(01:32:02):
decide that they're going to shoot uphis tires and then they hit the like
maker that he's trawling and freaking,I mean the giant fireball. I mean
that was Yeah, it was prettygreat, but it was like one of
these things where it was like,well, shit, there ain't no turning
back now. I mean, thewhole world just saw that, let's just

(01:32:23):
uh get back in the car andkeep going right. So, um,
I did find it very hilarious thatthere is this cyclist that is contemplating life
smoking a joint and I'm trying todecide if he's gonna's how that's how they
figure out that the Yes, thatthe he is riding his bike through the

(01:32:45):
mountains in one of those like LanceArmstrong looking toward the front. He's a
physically he's he's a Rastafarian mixed withLance Armstrong. Yes, like he just
mashed them together. There are timeswhen I am sort of wondering, was
there a deck of cards with charactersand it was like pick two and you

(01:33:05):
have to do swim together. It'slike Buffalo Bill and Barney from the Simpsons,
Rastafarian and Lance Armstrong, Like what'shappening here? M So the cop
in the trunk does get help andgets out. Everyone's looking for them now.
I mean, choppers are involved.This is bad, and there's a

(01:33:29):
big police chase where finally, okay, like they're in this car. It's
it's going down. The police chaseis very serious, and they double down
on the run, like let's justhit the gas even further and see if
we can outrun them. I mean, it's just panic at this point,
and they almost kind of get awaywith it for a minute, like those

(01:33:49):
cop cars get stuck under that likewhatever that bridge bridge or something, and
so they're kind of like for aminute like Okay, oh my god,
you know, we kind of outranthem. But that's when there's like a
chopper circling and coming up on yeah, and it like comes out, you
know, it's that big, veryaction movie kind of like comes up and

(01:34:13):
it's like you're you're not out runningthe chopper, No, like it's it's
and and the cops are coming fromall sides. And now I mean they're
at literally at like the edge ofthe Grand Canyon and almost go over the
edge and stop and Louise backs thecar up, and it's like, you
know, they're cornered, and allthe cops like now at this point,

(01:34:33):
the cops are stopping and snipers arecoming out like this this is bad,
and Officer Um Officer Hall Harvey Kitalthinks this is crazy, like what are
you doing? Yeah, and youknow the FBI guys like they're armed and
dangerous. So it's like, Imean, I kind of get it,
like it's they blew up a truck. They they were waving a gun around

(01:34:56):
at a store, like you don'tknow what these two ladies are going to
do. I mean, it's it'sbad. And so you know, in
this moment, they're saying, youknow, get out of the car,
put your hands where we can seethem, all this stuff, and then
this is when they kind of lookat each other and they agree to keep
going. And this is this isthe bananas thing that I feel like nobody

(01:35:19):
was expecting no, they hit thegas and we watched the car launch over
the cliff and it is this Idon't know, this moment when they look
at each other and they say let'skeep going and they grab each other's hands
well and then like you know,yeah, um, Louise kisses Thelma like

(01:35:42):
like you're my best friend and we'renot gonna get We're not gonna go down
by the cops, and they launchthis car over the cliff and it's I
thought it was a really cool choiceto have it like kind of freeze frame
in mid air, and then wesee all those pictures of them when they

(01:36:03):
were vibrant and alive and together,and it was like, this is you
know, I just put what afinal scene. I mean, I know
there's nobody that has seen this moviethat isn't like, holy shit with this
final scene. Still get it's oneof those when you watch it, you're

(01:36:24):
like it's almost like I know what'shappening, but it's that's a Marghetti movie
where it can still affect you eventhough you know exactly what's going to happen,
how it's going to end, whatis going to happen, the fact
that it can make you have suchan emotional response and still surprise you is
impressive. Yes, yes, Ihad such I don't know. I was

(01:36:50):
so surprised by this viewing of thismovie. It really made me again,
I've known about them on Louise allof the things, you know, like,
and it just it came out atthe wrong time for me. You
know, we were twelve, andso it's like it was lost on us.
And I'm so glad we found itagain because it's like I was like,

(01:37:12):
this is an amazing story and it'slike so poignant this relationship between the
two of them and just and thecharacter growth of Thelma is so fucking satisfying.
Like I mean there's there's good charactergrowth, but I'm talking satisfying.

(01:37:33):
Yes, it's so satisfying, likeshe just comes into like her own and
I mean she becomes a criminal.But still it's like, I don't know,
it was just magical, just theI mean, I I finished this

(01:37:53):
movie and I was like, whyhaven't I watched this? Yes, like
in twenty years or whatever. Iwas like, I and I think you're
absolutely right. Being this age andthe ages close to the ages of Thelma
and Louise in this movie. Ittakes on a whole another meaning. It

(01:38:16):
does. And when you have thatunderstanding of like, you know, a
bad marriage or you know, notbeing valuing, you know, being able
to have a little bit of freedomand go on a girl's trip because there's
so much responsibility in the rest ofyour world, you know, and like
that those times are to be cherished. And you know, it's like,

(01:38:40):
I don't think when we were youngerwatching this, it really could land properly,
right, You don't. You don'tsense the gravity of the situations of
any of it, the gravity oflike her being in this awful marriage that
she feels trapped in and she fromwhat you can gather, she's not like

(01:39:04):
she doesn't have a job, Likeshe doesn't like she relies on her husband
for his support, financial whatever,because she probably I mean, it's not
like she had extra education. Idon't think she went to college. If
they got married, and you know, Brad Pitt had asked her in the

(01:39:26):
car about like, so, doyou have any kids? Are you gonna
have kids? And she was like, my husband says he's not ready.
And it's like so she literally can'teven have a say in that, right,
It's like she doesn't have that tofulfill her like Thelma is. I
mean, your word of stunted isperfect. It's just like she's absolutely stunted
and not you know, and soI don't know, so satisfying. I

(01:39:51):
really was getting concerned when I wasfirst watching the movie that I was like
gonna hate Thelma because I was like, God, damn, she is pissing
me off. And then it waslike, you know, that satisfying growth
that it happens, it's really welldone, so well done. Well.
Dave goes, He's like, howare they friends? He's like, they

(01:40:15):
seem like Louise seems so much olderthan Thelma, and they don't seem to
really have anything in common. Iwas like, yeah, but you meet
people as an adult who become yourfriends that you don't necessarily have like you
could who knows they could have metthey wherever? It doesn't really question is

(01:40:36):
like they probably could have met bothworking at that diner, like we don't
know that Thelma doesn't work there sometimestoo, you know, like you make
girl friends that way where it's likethere might be an age difference between you,
but yeah, you know you metthrough that, you know, and
really bonded or whatever, you know, so it is like, I mean,

(01:40:58):
they definitely don't give us all ofthose details, but just a I
don't know, what an amazing movieand how tough that like that same year
that it went like up against Silenceof the Lambs with such a strong female
lad you know, it's like theOscar situation, there was something else.

(01:41:21):
I mean, I remember that wasreally a big deal with all the nominations
and it was huge, and youknow it's it's just um, like how
cool, just what a really coolstory and like it kind of takes that
Western feel and makes it palatable,like I liked it. I don't know,

(01:41:45):
yes, this one, I didn'texpect it to hit quite this way
for me like that. Now I'mlike, okay, now I get why
people. You know, it's likehow you made those Thelma and Louise cups
for that person, Like I neverreally unders stood that, like why people
are so into Thelma and Louise Andlike now I'm like, oh my god,
I totally get it. Yeah,Like that's what this is. It's

(01:42:08):
it's this ultimate female friendship, youknow, and it's and I also thought
it was very interesting to listen tosome of these interviews and how they really
did get some some flak for themovie of it being like either you know,
man hating or glorifying suicide, whichSusan Sarandon said, you know,

(01:42:30):
she said, she disagreed that,like, you know, how many Westerns
where there was a male characters inthe same situation that like make the same
kind of a choice, Like they'dtake their freedom over you know, right,
They'll take death over not being free, and no one questions that is

(01:42:50):
glorifying a suicide, you know.And I was like, but I can
see how that would have been,you know, kind of shaky ground when
they're releasing the movie, like,well, we don't know how this is
going to go over. Yeah,I don't think it's it's uh, I
don't see it as a glorification noat all. It was like, well,

(01:43:15):
both choices suck. Yeah, Imean, because if you think about
the movie or or their story.Let's just say, if even if you're
not looking at it as the movie, but like if you think of Thumma
and Louise as characters and their storyending the other way that like they go
to jail and then like what isthat? You know what I mean?

(01:43:36):
Like it's not as as much asthis is not a happy ending, it's
the right ending, right Well,it's ere they're choosing their own destiny and
they're not having it. It doesgive it that um, I don't know
what's the like that largeness, thetall tale like this adventure, you know

(01:44:00):
what I'm saying. Yeah, likeit gives it that like that No,
like we're wanted debt or alive.You know, we have a freaking chopper
and snipers and like I mean thisright, it's like which way are we
choosing to go out this escalation ina blaze of glory? Yeah, And
like everything about it, it's justlike the kind of the bigness of their

(01:44:24):
situation is really cool, right,Like the way it well and it gets
It's like there is no other waybecause it's like that's how the entire movie
goes. It's a small action andthen it just gets bigger. Everything gets
bigger, more fantastic. Yes,Like it's like if you had if you

(01:44:45):
had a truck blowing up at thebeginning, it would feel very weird,
right, But having the truck blowup right before they go creaning off into
the Grand Canyon doesn't seem so strange, well, because it's all building up
and like think about like more,you were bodily adrenaline reaction to like,

(01:45:08):
holy shit, we just blew upthat truck right like, and you're sitting
there like fuck that guy. Absolutely. I mean you would be on a
high, like out of your mind. You'd be out of your mom huh.
And it's like that's the mental statethey were in when they're getting cornered
by all right, this was fun. Let's turn ourselves turn ourselves in,

(01:45:29):
right. So I just I don'tknow. I definitely know that this was
a movie that I have always seenso many pop culture references. I've seen
so many people that are super intoit, and I just was always like,
oh, yeah, well you know, I don't really I don't know
what, Like, it wasn't mybig jam. I just remember it being

(01:45:51):
kind of sad at the end,you know that. They was like,
it doesn't have a happy ending.I remember that and this now they need
to purchase it. Yeah, thisviewing definitely, UM, I will definitely
revisit this one more more often.It deserves it. It's a it's a
cool, cool story like the wayit's told. It's tragic, but it's

(01:46:15):
heartwarming, it's you know, it'sit's not boring, you know, it's
I don't know, it's really ah, I'm so glad that we did this
one. It was really brought itinto a new light for me for sure.
And I will now forever look atthat picture when they're taking the selfie,

(01:46:39):
which is iconic, iconic, whenshe's wearing the sunglasses and it has
the scarf and like they're posed.I will never look at it the same
now because it's like now I getit, I get it, I get
what the Thelma and Louise thing is. It's really cool. So um,
what a great pick that we canacross. I think I maybe even thought

(01:47:01):
of it because you made those cupsfor that those people want it fell on
Louise cups. I know when youbrought it up, I was like,
huh, okay, well I knowif that had to be what planted the
seed, it had to be ye. So anyway, um, you know,
I don't know that we really havea real good Um. You know,
obviously I think people should watch thismovie, but I definitely think if

(01:47:25):
you are in the same age rangeas Andrea and I and were too young
for this movie, when it cameout, you really should treat yourself because
it was lost on you if youhaven't seen it in a long time,
because I would, I would say, I will stand on both feet on
that statement, like, yes,it was lost on you. If you're
our age and it came out whenyou were like twelve, thirteen or you

(01:47:50):
know whatever, or young, youdidn't get it even if you saw it.
And if you were older and inhigh school, I don't think you
got it. It's not no,it will hit ferent. It will definitely
hit different watching it now. SoI just I think this is a really
cool one. Agreed. Nice.Well, guys, thank you so much

(01:48:13):
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know. Are you the Felma,are you the Louise? Maybe you need
to relay watch this with a friend. It is absolutely worth a revisit.
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